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« Reply #4425 on: June 25, 2019, 04:13:11 PM »
EFL hub reporting West Ham have offered £10m, Byram and Hugil for Rondon.

Very impressed with Hugil against us for Boro last year. Perfect for Bilic' system plus he would know their abilities and character.
That sounds like a very good deal to me.

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« Reply #4426 on: June 25, 2019, 04:38:36 PM »
Do we really ever see swap deals come off?!

There could be work to be done with Reece Oxford too if the clubs are going to do business together.

Don't know a lot about Hugil but i'd like Oxford and Byram.

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« Reply #4427 on: June 25, 2019, 04:39:28 PM »
That sounds like a very good deal to me.
I suppose a lot will depend on the wage demands.
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« Reply #4428 on: June 25, 2019, 04:42:56 PM »
Thought Hugill was poor. A big lump with very little ability. No from me.
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« Reply #4429 on: June 25, 2019, 05:22:06 PM »
Big no to hugill, 10mill, oxford and Byram I’d consider, Byram has massively tailed off after breaking Onto the scene but if we can get him playing at the level he was at he could be a decent signing
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« Reply #4430 on: June 25, 2019, 06:16:25 PM »
Thought Hugill was poor. A big lump with very little ability. No from me.

Yeah, average championship player at best.
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« Reply #4431 on: June 25, 2019, 06:27:39 PM »
Yeah, average championship player at best.
Better than Robson Kanu then.

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« Reply #4432 on: June 25, 2019, 06:30:00 PM »
Better than Robson Kanu then.

But who isn't?

Hugil was just dirty and mostly ineffective. Byram would be a really good edition but hopefully with someone else.
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« Reply #4433 on: June 25, 2019, 06:30:58 PM »
Better than Robson Kanu then.

Kanu is a poor Championship player. Would be more suited to League 1 or League 2.
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« Reply #4434 on: June 25, 2019, 06:52:48 PM »
Thought Hugill was poor. A big lump with very little ability. No from me.

A poor lump who caused the Albion defence no end of problems?
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« Reply #4435 on: June 25, 2019, 07:00:51 PM »
A poor lump who caused the Albion defence no end of problems?


I remember him diving a couple of times, aside from that we were comfortable until Assombalonga was introduced.


Hugill is poor.
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« Reply #4436 on: June 25, 2019, 07:03:39 PM »
I don't rate either so would be a no for me, just pay the cash.

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« Reply #4437 on: June 25, 2019, 07:30:46 PM »
Jordan Hugull has scored 43 goals in 184 games playing for Port Vale, Gateshead, Preston, Tranmere, Hartlepool and Boro. Anyone who want's to sign player with those stats needs a lie down. We are trying to build a squad to get promoted not relegated to league one. Not surprised West Ham would want to try to offload their junk to us. We should stay well clear.

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« Reply #4438 on: June 25, 2019, 07:46:42 PM »
I agree re Hugill. Byron and Oxford plus about £12m cash is fine.

Use £8m of the £12m cash to cover the reduction in the parachute payment, and use the other £4m to cover wages for 2 strikers next season, one of which could be Andy Carroll if he’d come on a pay as you play deal and no signing-on fee! 




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« Reply #4439 on: June 25, 2019, 08:08:30 PM »
I agree re Hugill. Byron and Oxford plus about £12m cash is fine.

Use £8m of the £12m cash to cover the reduction in the parachute payment, and use the other £4m to cover wages for 2 strikers next season, one of which could be Andy Carroll if he’d come on a pay as you play deal and no signing-on fee!
Personally wouldn’t be keen on Carroll , you are right that the pay as you play minimises risk....but I’d expect that if he were on 30k per appearance...the board would factor him potentially playing 80% of games and allocating funds against

However I would assume he just wouldn’t come to us anyway
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« Reply #4440 on: June 25, 2019, 08:12:42 PM »
No deal for me, cash only, Hugull very average against us and totally agree, Assombalonga made a difference when he came on.
Don't mind swap deals if the players coming in are ones we are already interested in.
I think we will use the loan market big again this coming season, makes a lot of sense good prospects with the parent club paying half the wages.

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« Reply #4441 on: June 25, 2019, 08:43:30 PM »
No deal for me, cash only, Hugull very average against us and totally agree, Assombalonga made a difference when he came on.
Don't mind swap deals if the players coming in are ones we are already interested in.
I think we will use the loan market big again this coming season, makes a lot of sense good prospects with the parent club paying half the wages.

Yeah , get a good talented loan player who then gets called back to his parent club half way through the season and messes your whole season up !!!    Sound familiar !!!

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« Reply #4442 on: June 25, 2019, 08:52:32 PM »
Yeah , get a good talented loan player who then gets called back to his parent club half way through the season and messes your whole season up !!!    Sound familiar !!!

So we shouldn't use the loan market in case any players may be recalled in January? We would be cutting off our nose to spite our face. While losing Barnes was a blow our form got no worse after he had left anyway!

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« Reply #4443 on: June 25, 2019, 09:20:49 PM »
Yeah , get a good talented loan player who then gets called back to his parent club half way through the season and messes your whole season up !!!    Sound familiar !!!

The answer is to insist on a 15th January recall deadline, thereby ensuring that we have two weeks minimum to replace a recalled loan player.  Where it goes wrong is when the patent club can recall the loan player far too late in the window to be adequately replaced.

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« Reply #4444 on: June 25, 2019, 10:05:37 PM »
So we shouldn't use the loan market in case any players may be recalled in January? We would be cutting off our nose to spite our face. While losing Barnes was a blow our form got no worse after he had left anyway!
Our form might not have suffered but i think we'd have been better with him.

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« Reply #4445 on: June 25, 2019, 10:28:14 PM »
We shouldn't be considering loans with a recall unless it is for cover. We can't afford to lose our best performers because they are doing the business for us.

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« Reply #4446 on: June 26, 2019, 09:30:57 AM »
So we shouldn't use the loan market in case any players may be recalled in January? We would be cutting off our nose to spite our face. While losing Barnes was a blow our form got no worse after he had left anyway!

We should build a team with our own players and use loan players as support players. It's no good having 5 loan players in who are your main players and then find that at the end of the season they go back to their clubs and we are left with nothing.  I thought that the message was that  we need to build a team for the future. Loan players give you a one season benefit and should never be relied on.

As for Harvey Barnes, if he had stayed with us we would have got promotion automatic.  The sides that went up were no good. In fact I see the championship being a tougher league this year.

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« Reply #4447 on: June 26, 2019, 09:41:48 AM »
Can we keep this thread to discussing Salomon Rondon rather than our views on loaning players.
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« Reply #4448 on: June 26, 2019, 10:05:17 AM »
Hopefully he can perform well in the last few games of the Copa America just to try and get a couple more clubs interested.

The quicker we can sell him, the quicker we can use the funds to try and get some replacements in.
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« Reply #4449 on: June 26, 2019, 11:08:53 AM »
Hopefully he can perform well in the last few games of the Copa America just to try and get a couple more clubs interested.

The quicker we can sell him, the quicker we can use the funds to try and get some replacements in.

He will probably have a break after the Copa America and with only 6 weeks of the window open it doesn't leave much time to get a deal done.