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« Reply #5775 on: March 07, 2019, 04:38:31 PM »
Why is anyone taking this at face value? The only part of the story that is not speculative is the fact they're going to China. Nonsense piece imo.
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« Reply #5776 on: March 07, 2019, 04:44:28 PM »
Why is anyone taking this at face value? The only part of the story that is not speculative is the fact they're going to China. Nonsense piece imo.

there is no "it is understood that" or "sources at" or any other similar caveat,  it is written as a series of statements of fact.  Why do you say its speculative? Why is it nonsense?  Have you read it?
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« Reply #5777 on: March 07, 2019, 06:37:26 PM »
The fact that our club officials have to keep travelling all the way to China to see him speaks volumes for me. Why on earth did he pay all that money for us for?

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« Reply #5778 on: March 08, 2019, 10:37:38 AM »
Lai is nothing more than a front for a few financial investors. Not sure why anyone ever thought he'd be interested in our club for any other reason? He'll eventually sell when he and his consortium have achieved what they want.

The only way we'll ever get owners who really care is if we ever adopted a German club model and the fans took majority ownership. This won't happen in the current climate though.........there's too much money involved


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« Reply #5779 on: March 12, 2019, 10:38:25 AM »
“Is Moore’s sacking a signal of a higher level exit plan?”

Any interest read and an interesting theory

Source: https://brummieroadender.com/baggies-comment/is-moores-sacking-a-signal-of-a-higher-level-exit-plan/
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« Reply #5780 on: March 12, 2019, 10:45:41 AM »
“Is Moore’s sacking a signal of a higher level exit plan?”

Any interest read and an interesting theory

Source: https://brummieroadender.com/baggies-comment/is-moores-sacking-a-signal-of-a-higher-level-exit-plan/

I would go with that, completely a short term gamble on the hope of a new manager bounce. I would be amazed if we get a new face in with a long term plan.
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« Reply #5781 on: March 12, 2019, 10:48:01 AM »
Lai is nothing more than a front for a few financial investors. Not sure why anyone ever thought he'd be interested in our club for any other reason? He'll eventually sell when he and his consortium have achieved what they want.

The only way we'll ever get owners who really care is if we ever adopted a German club model and the fans took majority ownership. This won't happen in the current climate though.........there's too much money involved
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« Reply #5782 on: March 12, 2019, 11:17:30 AM »
“Is Moore’s sacking a signal of a higher level exit plan?”

Any interest read and an interesting theory

Source: https://brummieroadender.com/baggies-comment/is-moores-sacking-a-signal-of-a-higher-level-exit-plan/

Interesting, but he quotes Matt Wilson of the E & S.

Matt Wilson, in his podcast, said that it was Lai's decision to appoint Moore. The UK board wanted Dean Smith.

I have the feeling that Lai has a greater input in the key decisions than we think.
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« Reply #5783 on: March 12, 2019, 02:03:09 PM »
Lai is nothing more than a front for a few financial investors. Not sure why anyone ever thought he'd be interested in our club for any other reason? He'll eventually sell when he and his consortium have achieved what they want.

The only way we'll ever get owners who really care is if we ever adopted a German club model and the fans took majority ownership. This won't happen in the current climate though.........there's too much money involved

I believe Swansea had this model which is also used in Spain where the likes of real Madrid vote for their president.

I think pompey also had it, but in both cases they sell out at the first sign of anyone flashing the cash.

There is no panacea when it comes to club ownership unfortunately.

Where there is vast sums of potentially (prem) you get the likes of the oystons and the Bolton owner.

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« Reply #5784 on: April 06, 2019, 07:27:37 PM »
How did this bloke ever become a billionaire, if running this football club is anything to go by. Board are shambolic and haven't got a back bone between them and seem to be always looking for the cheap option when it comes to football side of the business.

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« Reply #5785 on: April 16, 2019, 06:46:12 PM »
Been reading a conversation on Twitter which originated from https://twitter.com/Prof_Chadwick about reasons why Chinese companies have purchased Midlands clubs and has linked to this -

https://www.scmp.com/economy/china-economy/article/3006420/china-presses-interest-uks-high-speed-rail-project-high-level

Also just read that FOSUN have interests in rail
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« Reply #5786 on: April 16, 2019, 07:01:52 PM »
Interesting article, thanks Phil.

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« Reply #5787 on: April 16, 2019, 08:42:58 PM »
Been reading a conversation on Twitter which originated from https://twitter.com/Prof_Chadwick about reasons why Chinese companies have purchased Midlands clubs and has linked to this -

https://www.scmp.com/economy/china-economy/article/3006420/china-presses-interest-uks-high-speed-rail-project-high-level

Also just read that FOSUN have interests in rail

I've been following Simon Chadwick for some time, since GL showed an interest in us.
Helps to give some explanation on why Lai would have been interested in us.
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« Reply #5788 on: April 16, 2019, 10:21:28 PM »
Been reading a conversation on Twitter which originated from https://twitter.com/Prof_Chadwick about reasons why Chinese companies have purchased Midlands clubs and has linked to this -

https://www.scmp.com/economy/china-economy/article/3006420/china-presses-interest-uks-high-speed-rail-project-high-level

Also just read that FOSUN have interests in rail

This is another interesting article about the Fosun/Mendes relationship

https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-soccer-files-fosun-specialreport/special-report-how-a-soccer-agent-and-chinese-tycoon-planned-to-trade-in-players-idUKKCN1OX0Q1
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« Reply #5789 on: April 16, 2019, 10:24:46 PM »
Selected...

“Football is an entertainment business and should not be a financial business,”

Someone please tell Jenkins.

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« Reply #5790 on: April 16, 2019, 10:35:31 PM »
Anyone seen Lai yet this year ?  Thought not!  >:(
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« Reply #5791 on: April 16, 2019, 10:42:25 PM »
Anyone seen Lai yet this year ?  Thought not!  >:(






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« Reply #5792 on: April 17, 2019, 12:50:00 AM »
I've been following Simon Chadwick for some time, since GL showed an interest in us.
Helps to give some explanation on why Lai would have been interested in us.
I read an interesting article, not long ago, about Chinese interest in railroad building and contracts throughout all Western countries. Unsurprisingly, they all have a Westerly/Easterly direction. It’s been dubbed the New Silk Road. The Hawthorns station could be the end of the line. Or the starting point. :D
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« Reply #5793 on: April 17, 2019, 08:45:05 AM »
I read an interesting article, not long ago, about Chinese interest in railroad building and contracts throughout all Western countries. Unsurprisingly, they all have a Westerly/Easterly direction. It’s been dubbed the New Silk Road. The Hawthorns station could be the end of the line. Or the starting point. :D

I spent some time off the beaten track a few years ago in Lao, the Chinese investment out there is on an unbelievable scale. They are a building a massive rail road (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vientiane%E2%80%93Boten_Railway) which will open up the South East Asia Peninsula even more to Chinese influence, as it links them and Lao to the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kunming%E2%80%93Singapore_railway.

Take a look at this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belt_and_Road_Initiative to see where it all fits in. The new silk road currently stops in Hamburg!

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« Reply #5794 on: May 07, 2019, 11:35:18 PM »
So Mr Lai isn’t bothering to come over for our play-off games. Seriously, what is he doing at our club? He clearly hasn’t the slightest interest in the footballing side. He thought he was speculating in order to accumulate but he could lose a good chunk of his £180m investment IF - and it is a big IF - we don’t get promoted.

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« Reply #5795 on: May 07, 2019, 11:51:00 PM »
He's probably lost a lot of that already because no one will pay what he paid - promotion or not. He bought a reasonably solvent self-sustaining club. Can't say that is the case any more.

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« Reply #5796 on: May 08, 2019, 12:11:35 AM »
So Mr Lai isn’t bothering to come over for our play-off games. Seriously, what is he doing at our club? He clearly hasn’t the slightest interest in the footballing side. He thought he was speculating in order to accumulate but he could lose a good chunk of his £180m investment IF - and it is a big IF - we don’t get promoted.

Not that big an if  :(

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« Reply #5797 on: May 08, 2019, 03:48:43 AM »
Not that big an if  :(

I hope you are right, BUT - and it is a big BUT ..... ;D ;D

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Re: Guochuan Lai
« Reply #5798 on: May 08, 2019, 06:38:35 AM »
Been reading in the press that our illustrious chairman can't be arsed to show up at the play off semis.
Just about sums up his interest in this club.
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« Reply #5799 on: May 08, 2019, 07:19:07 AM »
Been reading in the press that our illustrious chairman can't be arsed to show up at the play off semis.
Just about sums up his interest in this club.

Chairman is Li Piyue not GL. GL is simply an investor with dozens of businesses, why should the Albion take precedent over his other interests? GL appoints representatives to run his businesses with Mark Jenkins being the main decision maker here.