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Re: Boxing Thread
« Reply #900 on: February 24, 2020, 08:03:39 AM »
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« Reply #901 on: February 24, 2020, 10:13:04 AM »
Ultimately AJ v Fury is what everyone wants to see, all-British fight, unifies the division

It HAS to happen. I dont think it will be Fury’s camp putting the stoppers on it though
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« Reply #902 on: February 24, 2020, 12:20:16 PM »
...... Does anyone remember the fella from Manchester that beat Cowdel towards the end of his career naz someone  not long after he died in a car crash.........

Najib Daho. Mate of mine who I met in the army was an amateur boxer and knew him. Mad as a box of frogs apparently was Najib. RIP fella.
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« Reply #903 on: February 24, 2020, 01:37:33 PM »
On Facebook for the last few days the Wilder fanboys have been coming up with some great excuses. Mostly dirty fighter but the best one comes from his trainer Mark Breland stating the outfit he wore into the ring was too heavy and affected his balance :D

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« Reply #904 on: February 24, 2020, 01:38:28 PM »
Najib Daho. Mate of mine who I met in the army was an amateur boxer and knew him. Mad as a box of frogs apparently was Najib. RIP fella.

Good fighter mate RIP.

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« Reply #905 on: February 24, 2020, 01:51:43 PM »
Najib Daho. Mate of mine who I met in the army was an amateur boxer and knew him. Mad as a box of frogs apparently was Najib. RIP fella.
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Re: Boxing Thread
« Reply #906 on: February 24, 2020, 02:58:20 PM »
A.J. v Wilder would  be an interesting fight - Just might happen- winner fights Tyson?

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« Reply #907 on: February 24, 2020, 08:39:48 PM »
I think Joshua v Fury would be a lot closer on the cards than Wilder Fury, despite me making Wilder favourite in any match up against Joshua.

Wilder is the best knockout merchant in the division and that's what gives him a chance, but i can name a fair few fighters off the top of my head who have arguably been ahead of Wilder on the judges cards at the point of it being stopped, and a few of those have been very ordinary heavyweights (Fury, Ortiz, Szpilka, Washington) - there are probably more but I haven't seen all of Wilder's fights. Compare that to Joshua, there are probably only 1 or 2 occasions where you can say that (Klitschko maybe, Povetkin, Ruiz) and even then it's been close run and vs top level opponents.

The problem with Joshua Fury however is that while he is one of the best technical boxers in the heavyweight division, Joshua is still not quite in Fury's class in that respect and he seems to have lost the devastating KO power he had vs the gate keeper types once he stepped up to the top level. 

I'd love to see Fury v Joshua to see what Joshua could do, but unless Fury got a bit lax as he has vs some opponents in the past, i'd struggle to see Joshua doing enough to either KO him or to win on points.
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« Reply #908 on: February 24, 2020, 11:26:22 PM »
I think Joshua v Fury would be a lot closer on the cards than Wilder Fury, despite me making Wilder favourite in any match up against Joshua.

Wilder is the best knockout merchant in the division and that's what gives him a chance, but i can name a fair few fighters off the top of my head who have arguably been ahead of Wilder on the judges cards at the point of it being stopped, and a few of those have been very ordinary heavyweights (Fury, Ortiz, Szpilka, Washington) - there are probably more but I haven't seen all of Wilder's fights. Compare that to Joshua, there are probably only 1 or 2 occasions where you can say that (Klitschko maybe, Povetkin, Ruiz) and even then it's been close run and vs top level opponents.

The problem with Joshua Fury however is that while he is one of the best technical boxers in the heavyweight division, Joshua is still not quite in Fury's class in that respect and he seems to have lost the devastating KO power he had vs the gate keeper types once he stepped up to the top level. 

I'd love to see Fury v Joshua to see what Joshua could do, but unless Fury got a bit lax as he has vs some opponents in the past, i'd struggle to see Joshua doing enough to either KO him or to win on points.
Shouldn't forget that Joshua did finish off Klitschko, Whyte and Povetkin impressively enough. The ones he didn't finish were the durable Ruiz-Jr and Parker which were fights he chose to keep at distance.

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« Reply #909 on: February 24, 2020, 11:46:03 PM »
Shouldn't forget that Joshua did finish off Klitschko, Whyte and Povetkin impressively enough. The ones he didn't finish were the durable Ruiz-Jr and Parker which were fights he chose to keep at distance.

He did, although you could say that for Wilder as well.

Joshua does have power, but in his last 5 fights he has failed to KO his opponent in 3 of them and in one other it took him until the 10th round.

He could beat Fury on his day but Fury seems to raise his game against his toughest opponents.

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« Reply #910 on: February 25, 2020, 01:11:45 AM »
On Facebook for the last few days the Wilder fanboys have been coming up with some great excuses. Mostly dirty fighter but the best one comes from his trainer Mark Breland stating the outfit he wore into the ring was too heavy and affected his balance :D

I read that as well. He started his excuses before he left the ring with ‘a lot of things going on’, but the heavy suit is the best. They just cannot accept that Wilder was out thought and out boxed by his opponent.
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« Reply #911 on: February 26, 2020, 11:00:13 PM »
I read that as well. He started his excuses before he left the ring with ‘a lot of things going on’, but the heavy suit is the best. They just cannot accept that Wilder was out thought and out boxed by his opponent.

If I was a boxing trainer, I’d probably try to convince my trainee that it wasn’t their fault they lost as well. If Wilder looks too deeply at it, he would come to the conclusion that Fury is the better boxer, who has realistically beaten him twice in two fights. Once you do that, you will struggle to come back.

Bit gutted they are going to do it for a third time though. The heavyweight division is in a good place but the log jam of fights is starting to get messy now. Dillian Whyte has been mandatory for 2 years without getting a shot. That isn’t sustainable.
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« Reply #912 on: February 26, 2020, 11:03:10 PM »
Wilder only going for the money,he can't win.

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« Reply #913 on: February 26, 2020, 11:13:38 PM »
Wilder only going for the money,he can't win.

With his KO ability, he could beat anyone with a bit of luck. Fury could get complacent or unmotivated after 2 great performances. When Fury beat Klitschko he then had nearly 3 years off after “having no motivation” and mental health issues and then after the first Wilder fight he followed it up with 2 disappointing performances vs relative unknowns. 

Wilder Fury 3 is a fight I don’t want to see happen, but that isn’t because it would be a predictable Fury victory.
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« Reply #914 on: February 26, 2020, 11:37:13 PM »
Fair points mate,but I think Fury will want to just get Wilder out of the way because he really wants AJ unification fight, would that be a great match say at Wembley and live on terrestrial TV?
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Re: Boxing Thread
« Reply #915 on: March 02, 2020, 12:56:55 PM »
Anthony Joshua to fight Kubrat Pulev in mandatory IBF defence on June 20th at the Spurs stadium....

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/51705419

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