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Offline royhan

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Re: Boxing Thread
« Reply #50 on: November 24, 2013, 10:25:46 PM »
I think Froch should now seek a re-match with Andre Ward and try to avenge his defeat against the American. He can't then be accused of ducking a class opponent. If Froch wins then he should meet Groves again.

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« Reply #51 on: November 25, 2013, 09:00:43 AM »
The ref might have stopped the fight a punch too early but that better than stopping it a punch too late.
Froch was there on top and ready to take his head off.
Just about the right call IMO
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« Reply #52 on: November 25, 2013, 10:06:51 AM »
The ref might have stopped the fight a punch too early but that better than stopping it a punch too late.
Froch was there on top and ready to take his head off.
Just about the right call IMO

what about the rest of the fight when groves was "taking froch's head off?"

terrible decison, jumped in too early, as groves actually landed 3 shots on froch in that exchange, and the ropes were not holding groves up.

standing 8 count should have been issued, referee ruined it.
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« Reply #53 on: November 29, 2013, 06:15:12 PM »
Froch v Groves On Sky Sports 2 at 8 tonight if you haven't seen it.

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« Reply #54 on: November 29, 2013, 06:53:59 PM »
I really find it difficult to understand why Groves didn't get a standing 8??

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« Reply #55 on: November 29, 2013, 11:31:15 PM »
I really find it difficult to understand why Groves didn't get a standing 8??
Standing 8 count is usually not in operation in Championship fights. Of the WBA or IBF who's belts they were fighting for, neither have the standing 8 count.

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« Reply #56 on: November 30, 2013, 09:40:15 AM »
Standing 8 count is usually not in operation in Championship fights. Of the WBA or IBF who's belts they were fighting for, neither have the standing 8 count.

Thanks Adder, didn't realise that - still, appears a strange rule?

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« Reply #57 on: November 30, 2013, 12:21:50 PM »
Yes it's the defend yourself at all times instruction the ref gives at the start - I suppose if he judges that a fighter isn't in a position to defend himself then it's fight over.

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« Reply #58 on: November 30, 2013, 12:35:38 PM »
I just don't see how groves was in a worse that what Froch was in the 1st round. I don't by all this Froch always comes back rubbish, the ref should call it as he sees it not off his reputation. If he stopped the fight for that then it should have been stopped in the first round !

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« Reply #59 on: November 30, 2013, 12:36:43 PM »
Yes it's the defend yourself at all times instruction the ref gives at the start - I suppose if he judges that a fighter isn't in a position to defend himself then it's fight over.


Groves was throwing back how is that not defending yourself? There was no 8 count needed, there was no referee intervention needed. I'd go as far as to say it was the worst decision I've ever seen in world championship boxing history. Absolutely abysmal refereeing.

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« Reply #60 on: November 30, 2013, 01:11:35 PM »
Groves was brilliant on the night and deserves the praise he is getting and the fight was certainly stopped too soon but for me Groves was tiring and getting caught more often sapping his strength more.
 
For me Froch was no more than a round away from knocking Groves out so in a way the ref did Groves a favour to stop it when Groves was on his feet.  He walking into the ring being booed and walked out to cheers.  Its done his career the world of good.
 
Having said all that if there is a rematch I'd fancy Groves to learn from the mistakes he made by trading with Froch and pace himself better and get a comfortable points win.
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« Reply #61 on: December 01, 2013, 05:47:56 AM »
Anyone watch Stephenson v Bellew? Stephenson too good. Only man at the weight that will beat him is Kovalev, the man is a beast!

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« Reply #62 on: December 01, 2013, 04:53:25 PM »
Anyone watch Stephenson v Bellew? Stephenson too good. Only man at the weight that will beat him is Kovalev, the man is a beast!

Would love to see this fight come off. A real fans fight!

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« Reply #63 on: April 28, 2015, 08:02:19 AM »
Anyone paying for the fight Saturday?
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« Reply #64 on: April 28, 2015, 09:03:36 AM »
I am.  Love the boxing and this is the biggest fight around at the moment.
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« Reply #65 on: April 28, 2015, 09:24:42 AM »
what time our time is the actual box off
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« Reply #66 on: April 28, 2015, 09:29:22 AM »
I watch all boxing. I subscribe to Boxnation and watch the lot.

I will NOT pay for this fight though. I already pay to subscribe to Sky Sports so why should I have to pay again? Not going to happen. I'm not going to be taken for a complete and utter fool.

The fight is being overhyped as well. These two are not P4P 1 and 2 anymore not with Golovkin, Kovalev and Ward around, both fighters are past their best.

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« Reply #67 on: April 28, 2015, 09:37:42 AM »
i am sure you will pick it up via a stream anyway. i found a good one last year Froch v Groves
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« Reply #68 on: April 28, 2015, 09:38:49 AM »
what time our time is the actual box off


Bound to be between 4 and 5 am. 
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« Reply #69 on: April 28, 2015, 09:40:01 AM »
I just hope it isn't a let down, can't help but feel it is a few years too late.
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« Reply #70 on: April 28, 2015, 09:42:32 AM »
I think I saw somewhere on the tv (Sky?) that the programme started at about midnight, so that probably means the big fight would start at about 5am lol!! :o (dont quote me on this!)
I too will probably watch via a stream. I've watched a few of the last big fights this way!
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« Reply #71 on: April 28, 2015, 09:43:55 AM »
Vegas is 8 hours behind us so probably around Dawn then
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« Reply #72 on: April 28, 2015, 09:55:32 AM »
What sites do you guys use for the streams?

Ill more than likely watch it this way.
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« Reply #73 on: April 28, 2015, 10:25:32 AM »
I watch all boxing. I subscribe to Boxnation and watch the lot.

I will NOT pay for this fight though. I already pay to subscribe to Sky Sports so why should I have to pay again? Not going to happen. I'm not going to be taken for a complete and utter fool.

The fight is being overhyped as well. These two are not P4P 1 and 2 anymore not with Golovkin, Kovalev and Ward around, both fighters are past their best.

Those 3 you mention are quality.  I am a huge fan of Golovkin in particular.  To me they are all the level below though.  The next generation although Golovkin is in his 30s.

The difference between those and May and Pac are that they haven't been in with the best and beat them.  Golovkin needs to step up to Super Middle or he could drop down to get the bigger fights.  Kovalev needs to fight Stevenson to be crowned the best.  Ward needs to fight fighters much better than Paul Smith.

IMO you need to fight and beat Legends in order to be one yourself.  Both May and Pac have done that and become multi weight champions.  They are rightfully still P4P 1 & 2 IMO.  It is frustrating, however, that these two didn't fight 5 years ago when they were both in their prime.
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« Reply #74 on: April 28, 2015, 10:36:27 AM »
What sites do you guys use for the streams?

Ill more than likely watch it this way.
I use http://www.vipleague.me/ I watch the footy via this as well!
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