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« Reply #3075 on: November 13, 2018, 10:07:54 AM »
Not fantastically bothered about him getting another cap to be honest. This is a meaningless game where the gate receipts are going to charity. If Rooney plays then it will get many extra bums on seats and increase the charity contribution.

We probably need to remember the contribution Wayne has made to English football, both for club and country - a fantastic player in his day and still a force to be reckoned with. A quick check on Wiki tells you that he played for England 119 times and scored 53 goals, which is a phenominal return at that level. 
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« Reply #3076 on: November 13, 2018, 10:10:14 AM »
Not fantastically bothered about him getting another cap to be honest. This is a meaningless game where the gate receipts are going to charity. If Rooney plays then it will get many extra bums on seats and increase the charity contribution.

We probably need to remember the contribution Wayne has made to English football, both for club and country - a fantastic player in his day and still a force to be reckoned with. A quick check on Wiki tells you that he played for England 119 times and scored 53 goals, which is a phenominal return at that level.

I don't think anyone is disputing he made a fantastic effort for his country, although let's be honest he had one good tournament which is a poor return. And just to reiterate, the gate receipts aren't going to charity:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2018/11/06/fa-refuses-hand-gate-receipts-charity-wayne-rooneys-last-england/

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« Reply #3077 on: November 13, 2018, 10:22:18 AM »
That's correct, I believe gate receipts etc are going to a charity of FA choice, Rooney will be able to collect for his charity outside of the turnstiles etc or something along those lines.

Which makes the whole thing even more bizarre in my opinion.

Previous poster identified that the gate receipts [or a portion of] are going to a charity of their choice - not Rooney's.

It is obvious that the game has been mis badged and someone in the FA has dropped a real clanger here.........if they had said from day 1 that it was a Rooney testemonial, we would have all known before we bought the tickets - or not as the case may be.
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« Reply #3078 on: November 13, 2018, 11:26:49 AM »
It does have the feel of a testimonial to it. I believe he's only coming on for the last 10 minutes or so (or so I have read) and the England players have said he can have the armband as and when he does come on.

Would this have been planned if Rooney had been a few caps closer to Shilton's record?

Just seems a strange thing to do and where do we draw the line with things like this in the future.
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« Reply #3079 on: November 13, 2018, 11:28:01 AM »
Previous poster identified that the gate receipts [or a portion of] are going to a charity of their choice - not Rooney's.

It is obvious that the game has been mis badged and someone in the FA has dropped a real clanger here.........if they had said from day 1 that it was a Rooney testermonial, we would have all known before we bought the tickets - or not as the case may be.

See my link above, the FA themselves say "The proceeds from the England v USA will go back into the English game.". The gate receipts are not going to charity at all.

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« Reply #3080 on: November 14, 2018, 08:08:19 PM »
All international friendlies are testimonials. It's a crying shame that Rooney (still a pro footballer remember) wont be the worst striker England select from.
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Re: Anything England Football
« Reply #3081 on: November 17, 2018, 07:01:29 PM »
Don't agree with this fake cap for Rooney at all.
What's he done to earn this cap?
Fled to USA to play.
An England cap should be earned through hard work and skill not given away,so he can get his 120 cap?
Its cheapened the shirt,what is the FA thinking?
We look forward with our team not back,most of his play for 119 caps hasn't been up to scratch for me anyway.
Overated  player,the only reward he wants is money.
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« Reply #3082 on: November 17, 2018, 07:06:07 PM »
Don't agree with this fake cap for Rooney at all.
What's he done to earn this cap?
Fled to USA to play.
An England cap should be earned through hard work and skill not given away,so he can get his 120 cap?
Its cheapened the shirt,what is the FA thinking?
We look forward with our team not back,most of his play for 119 caps hasn't been up to scratch for me anyway.
Overated  player,the only reward he wants is money.
Sorry,bad decision.

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Re: Anything England Football
« Reply #3083 on: November 18, 2018, 06:27:27 PM »
Oh I see another Rooney bashing again..

Overrated  :o :-X what a load of codswallop

Fair play to the FA on this gesture, the man deserves all the plaudits for me...class player
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« Reply #3084 on: November 18, 2018, 06:29:09 PM »
Brilliant result today v Croatia

Deserved the win I reckon, great resilience and strength of character to come back from 1 down



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« Reply #3085 on: November 19, 2018, 01:15:05 AM »
Brilliant result today v Croatia

Deserved the win I reckon, great resilience and strength of character to come back from 1 down

Switzerland knocking Belgium is a huge help also. If the Dutch could qualify over the French there would be a lot of arguments to say we would be favourites.
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« Reply #3086 on: November 19, 2018, 01:17:21 AM »
Oh I see another Rooney bashing again..

Overrated  :o :-X what a load of codswallop

Fair play to the FA on this gesture, the man deserves all the plaudits for me...class player

But why should it qualify him for this random extra cap over other, arguably more deserving England greats? Let's be honest here, he had one great tournament and then did the square root of sod all after on the big stage. Rooney fanboys getting offended over the criticism is bizarre. He served England well in his international career, but that ended 2 years ago and it should stay that way. If it was a true testimonial with gate receipts going to his charity then that would be fair enough. It was a weird circus, nothing more.

Meanwhile, great result England!

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« Reply #3087 on: November 19, 2018, 09:32:22 AM »
Fantasic result yesterday.

Over the last two games, we have really looked comfortable on the ball, knocking it round and looking a threat when we go forward.

Never really had to get out of 3rd gear against USA.

Started very well yesterday and could have grabbed a couple early goals, took a set up with the Croats goal and got back into the game and won it at the end.

Can only see a bright future for this crop of youngsters coming through.

Fair play to Southgate blooding Sancho into the squad aswell, may give some of the other talented youngsters sitting on the big teams under 23 squads a kick up the arse and go and get a move to play some regular football.

If Sancho would have stayed at City, he wouldn't be anywhere near the England squad yet.
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« Reply #3088 on: November 19, 2018, 10:28:33 PM »
Switzerland knocking Belgium is a huge help also. If the Dutch could qualify over the French there would be a lot of arguments to say we would be favourites.

Called it...
I would fancy England against any of the other 3. Obviously the Swiss are the weakest and the kindest draw for us.
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Re: Anything England Football
« Reply #3089 on: March 19, 2019, 07:58:38 AM »
yawn, anybody doing the England games coming up
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« Reply #3090 on: March 19, 2019, 09:09:20 AM »
Until googling it just, I didn't even know who the fixtures were against.

Nice to see a few of the younger players been given a call up, Rice, Hudson-Odoi, Sancho etc.

Think Ward Prowse can count himself unlucky to not have got a call up. Also surprised the palace full back, Wan Basaka? hasn't had a call up, he's put in some good performances this year.
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Re: Anything England Football
« Reply #3091 on: March 20, 2019, 10:04:17 AM »
yawn, anybody doing the England games coming up

Not doing these 2 but I know a couple of Albion going to Montenegro.

I'm booked up for Portugal in June and Prague and Sofia in October  :)

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Re: Anything England Football
« Reply #3092 on: March 20, 2019, 10:12:17 AM »
I'm off to Montenegro. Flying Sunday to Albania, spending the day & night in Tirana then coach across to Podgorcia Monday morning

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« Reply #3093 on: March 22, 2019, 09:02:59 PM »
Very good first half, Sterling looking a class act.
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« Reply #3094 on: March 23, 2019, 08:07:38 AM »
Really starting to get excited about this England team.  The future is so bright. Let's hope these kids fulfil their potential and we finally, after all these years, lift a trophy.
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« Reply #3095 on: March 23, 2019, 08:12:27 AM »
Strange but scary didn't think we played particularly well especially first 10 mins second half. Sancho looks a prospect but centre backs still a concern as Walker always has a mistake in him
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« Reply #3096 on: March 25, 2019, 09:28:10 AM »
good luck to all the baggies flying out to watch england tonight
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« Reply #3097 on: March 25, 2019, 05:27:00 PM »
Strange but scary didn't think we player particularly well especially first 10 mins second half. Sancho looks a prospect but centre backs still a concern as Walker always has a mistake in him

This for me is the biggest concern for crunch games against the best teams - I feel like he would be very liable to making a very costly mistake.

Same goes for Stones (as he did in the WC semi-final).

We do look good going forward but in all honesty our weaknesses won't be tested in this qualifying group.

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« Reply #3098 on: March 25, 2019, 08:46:14 PM »
This for me is the biggest concern for crunch games against the best teams - I feel like he would be very liable to making a very costly mistake.

Same goes for Stones (as he did in the WC semi-final).

We do look good going forward but in all honesty our weaknesses won't be tested in this qualifying group.

half time of the Montenegro game and its like watching a Mowbray team against a poor side, look great going forwards but the defence is scarily exposed by lack of defensive midfield.
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« Reply #3099 on: March 25, 2019, 09:35:18 PM »
half time of the Montenegro game and its like watching a Mowbray team against a poor side, look great going forwards but the defence is scarily exposed by lack of defensive midfield.


Don't think they've been that bad, CHO poor for the goal but you have to accept that with those 3 attacking players.
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