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Offline section5

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Re: After Match Debate
« Reply #25 on: May 14, 2019, 10:57:35 PM »
Please can we get an actual manager in charge with experience. To say we've done this with two rookies over the season speaks volumes about the potential this squad had to push on this season if properly managed. What is our squad going to look like next season? Gibbs,Hegazi, Dawson, (Holgate, Tosin-loans) will most likely leave... straight away back line is in need of serious recruitment. We have well and truly messed up our chance this season, love big dave but think the risk of letting him feel his way through management at such an important time for the club has backfired unfortunately. Can't help but feel doom and gloom our squad is going to be ridiculously different, not saying its a bad thimg but how many years is it going to take, hopefully we get some excitement in the next couple years

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Re: After Match Debate
« Reply #26 on: May 14, 2019, 10:57:43 PM »
Proud of them to a man tonight they showed unbelievable character and can hold their heads high. Dictated the play pretty much in both games and had it not been for an awful referee in the first game we’d have beaten them. Time for a much needed clear out now and a 5 year plan has to be put in place we may suffer the next few years but it needs to happen now.

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« Reply #27 on: May 14, 2019, 10:58:06 PM »
It's embarrassing playing like that we haven't moved on from the Pulis days of scrambling a set piece goal and defending for our lives.

In the league our defenders never put their bodies on the line like tonight.  Lack of motivation and soft mentality.

Be a Man and admit Villa were better over 2 legs.

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« Reply #28 on: May 14, 2019, 11:00:25 PM »
Proud of all the lads who stayed on the pitch.  Indiscipline cost us in the playoffs, but over the season as a whole we were not good enough to go up... still feel sick.

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Re: After Match Debate
« Reply #29 on: May 14, 2019, 11:01:08 PM »
Glad the season's over, been diabolical from start to finish. Appoint sh*t managers, win sh*t prizes. The team selection, subs and use of the squad this season has been atrocious. Tactically we've been clueless and we've been awful to watch under both head coaches for different reasons. Even tonight, we had our foot on Villa's throat in the second half and we make the most cowardly subs possible to shoot ourselves in the foot. Montero would have had their defence on toast, even Murphy had the better of them.
 
Nobody deserves to lose like that more than Jenkins, we'll be in this division for the forseeable under that cretin. I'm going to enjoy a nice long summer without having to watch us play before inevitably returning next season for more crap served up by the next in a long line of dour and uninspiring managers.

Don't care who wins the play offs now, all 3 of them appointed good head coaches and have planned for the future. It's better for football if clubs run by clowns like our board aren't in the PL.

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Re: After Match Debate
« Reply #30 on: May 14, 2019, 11:01:11 PM »
Couldn’t ask for much more tonight. Not surprised that Brunt was dumb enough to floor a Villa player after being on a yellow. He doesn’t have the legs to play in the middle and jumps into rash challenges. J-Rod worked hard but offered no threat whatsoever, laughable to compare him to Gayle. I thought Johnson was superb during the game. Amazing save to take it to extra time. But then meek on penalties. Didn’t stay big like Steele and could / should have saved that penalty from Abraham that was poor. Clear mistake letting young inexperienced Holgate take the first pen. If your doing that give it to Leko or Harper, more natural footballers. Hegazi wasn’t that bad a penalty but he paid no attention to their GK and didn’t look particularly interested before or after he took it, same dead eyed stare. We weren’t good enough this year and need to move heaven and earth to keep Gayle and then clear out the dead wood OAP midfielders and I include Livermore in that bracket. We need players that can pass the ball and get around the pitch. Also desperately need another striker to help Gayle out, 3 with HRK and J-Rod isn’t good enough.

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Re: After Match Debate
« Reply #31 on: May 14, 2019, 11:04:19 PM »
Unforgivable from Brunt. Honestly it's time to move on from him anyway but to do that today is so so irresponsible and should be the final nail for him.

Much bigger problems would still be there even if we had come through tonight, but the game was there for the taking and he basically ruined any chance of winning pre-pens (and probably would have improved our odds for pens too).

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Re: After Match Debate
« Reply #32 on: May 14, 2019, 11:06:17 PM »
Why on earth didn't Dawson take a penalty ? , taken plenty before.
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Re: After Match Debate
« Reply #33 on: May 14, 2019, 11:06:47 PM »
You have to look at tonight and compare our squads with Villa. The midfield and firepower they had vs us was laughable and still they lost on the night to our kids and ten men ha ha (small consolation but they're nowhere near being as  good as their fans think).

Jenkins needs to take the Brunt tonight (see what i did there) . Wonder if we'll ever see a proper manager and midfielders who can pass and run again at the Hawthorns?

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Re: After Match Debate
« Reply #34 on: May 14, 2019, 11:06:53 PM »
I know it was 10 v 11 for a long time but our ball retention and passing was so poor when we did get the ball.

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« Reply #35 on: May 14, 2019, 11:07:40 PM »
Why on earth didn't Dawson take a penalty ? , taken plenty before.

Good shout, I would have backed him putting his foot through the ball over Holgate, Hegazi.

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Re: After Match Debate
« Reply #36 on: May 14, 2019, 11:09:17 PM »
Great effort with 10 men. At least our experienced players used their heads....
Makes the penalty on Holgate at VP even more galling.
Gayle plays tonight and we win...

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Re: After Match Debate
« Reply #37 on: May 14, 2019, 11:14:48 PM »

The two reds decided this two legged tie. The lack of seeing the bigger picture from the board cost us the season.

Couldn’t agree more. The owner & board have shown themselves to be clueless & by their deeds, we are now screwed.

Can expect the usual fire sale/asset strip to make as much cash as possible to try to cut their losses.
2 questions.
Who, in their right mind, would want to buy this club?
What right minded, young, talented footballer would want to sign for this club?

We are a shambles

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Re: After Match Debate
« Reply #38 on: May 14, 2019, 11:14:54 PM »
It just wasn't to be. I am finding it hard to find criticism tonight after the effort the boys put in. Ultimately, we were screwed over by the officials at Vile Park?

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Re: After Match Debate
« Reply #39 on: May 14, 2019, 11:20:15 PM »
4 defenders taking penalties say no more.
Who the fec picked that line up.
4 defenders who were absolutely knackered take the penalties FFS what is going on????? Don't blame Brunt,he was absolutely shattered and just put a tired leg out. Substitutions should have come thick and fast....NOT AT THE END FFS.

GET A REAL manager in who can sort this mess out!!!!!

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Re: After Match Debate
« Reply #40 on: May 14, 2019, 11:20:24 PM »
agree about the officials at seal park but they haven't screwed us, that honour goes to the incompetence shown by our board.

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Re: After Match Debate
« Reply #41 on: May 14, 2019, 11:25:08 PM »
Did i forget to write sack the board

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Re: After Match Debate
« Reply #42 on: May 14, 2019, 11:26:33 PM »
Team selection cost us tonight Brunt is not a central midfielder and the stupid insistence on playing him in there has cost the club over a 100 million. Shan is a poor version of Pulis.

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Re: After Match Debate
« Reply #43 on: May 14, 2019, 11:26:38 PM »
So proud of the players for getting to pens after Brunt cost us SO dearly once again and truly gave there all to it. At least 2 years too long that bloke has been allowed to stay at this club, I absolutely relish the day he leaves.

Add a Harvey Barnes of Dwight Gayle in that line-up tonight and we'd have taken it. But frankly I'm glad we didn't take progress because nobody in that hierarchy deserved the 'get out of jail free' card after the way we have been ran these last 2/3 years.   

Don't recognise this board, don't recognise the management, don't recognise the team. Never been more disconnected and disenfranchised by my beloved albion.

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Re: After Match Debate
« Reply #44 on: May 14, 2019, 11:27:01 PM »
Gutted we have lost.  Brunt obviously at fault but, on his defence,  he's forced into a rash challenge by Hegazi giving the ball away on the edge of the box. We would have won that game tonight with Gayle on there.

Even with a rookie manager and a feather light squad we nearly made it.  The players gave it their all but our squad came up short.  4 defenders taking pens, not enough forwards,  having to bring on Morisson to do nothing.  I fear for next season.  Sign gayle, get a new manager and start the rebuild.

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Re: After Match Debate
« Reply #45 on: May 14, 2019, 11:28:23 PM »
4 defenders who were absolutely knackered take the penalties FFS what is going on????? Don't blame Brunt,he was absolutely shattered and just put a tired leg out. Substitutions should have come thick and fast....NOT AT THE END FFS.

GET A REAL manager in who can sort this mess out!!!!!
we needed 4x Igor Balis.

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Re: After Match Debate
« Reply #46 on: May 14, 2019, 11:29:47 PM »
Great credit to Shan , you've done the best you can .
Overall when all said and done you have to look at the top , Moore was sacked late Feb I think .
Its now May and we still have a rookie in charge , hang your heads in shame Lai , Jenkins and Dowling .
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Re: After Match Debate
« Reply #47 on: May 14, 2019, 11:30:36 PM »
All i can say is think what we could have done had we a full squad to pick from.

We can blame Brunt, Gayle or HRK, but ultimately there are many incidents this season that have cost us.

The lads played their hearts out tonight and the fans were superb. We played right to the very last kick.

Gutted we didn't win, but ultimately, do you honestly think we'd have had a successful season in the PL with this squad?

Well done to JS for his efforts.

Anyway. We beat Villa, which is all we asked for.

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Re: After Match Debate
« Reply #48 on: May 14, 2019, 11:31:23 PM »
Funnily enough I am not that bothered, which is weird because usually I would be.

Tonight I am glowing with pride, it was the best atmosphere I can remember, the players all did their best and it just wasn't to be.
Tonight showed me why I love the Albion whereas the Villa fans were quiet for 100+ minutes only to explode when they won.

I think next season will be much harder but it won't stop me loving West Brom.
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Re: After Match Debate
« Reply #49 on: May 14, 2019, 11:34:12 PM »
Can all the negativity and moaning go on a separate thread please, maybe a post season thread, this after match debate deserves a little bit of pride in a brave performance from the team, and magnificent support from the fans. Felt we gave an average Villa team a little more respect than they deserved too.