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So which ever way we look at this I think the situation is clear.  We need to be self funding, no extra money will be coming into the club, and owner will not be offering extra investment.  He also lacks the experience and management skills of Peace, who was good at what he did, though not always respected by the majority of the fans.  So we will either go up this year or next (though I have doubts around how we would do in the premiership if we go up this year particularly), or we do not and then we enter a period of decline, floating around in the middle of the championship as the quality players we have move on.  Hard fact is that Wolves and Villa have more backing from their owners.... this is quite depressing to write if I am honest.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: The Liquidator liquidated?
« on: January 16, 2019, 12:52:20 PM »
We absolutely need to keep the liquidator.  When it comes on I start to dance.  My son standing next to me is usually mortified...

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Who really wants promotion?
« on: January 15, 2019, 12:51:58 PM »
So to answer the first question.  Yes I do want promotion.  My first reason for this, is that our ambition as a club must always be to play at the very highest standard possible, and this is the Premier League.  My second point is what will happen if we do not.  We have two years of parachute money, and an owner unwilling to invest anything but self generated funds.  Sorry to be pessimistic, but if we are not up within two years it will be a very different Albion we will be watching and we might find that somewhat less entertaining than our current incarnation.

Albion Matchday Forum / Re: Pre Match Chat
« on: January 12, 2019, 08:58:45 AM »
The biggest problem we now have is mental.  Norwich will be on the up with Barnes returning, but one person does not make a team and we have enough quality to get passed Norwich and anyone else in this league. 

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Harvey Barnes (on loan from Leicester)
« on: January 11, 2019, 12:39:28 PM »
Gutted.  We have no one with magic if he isn't in the team.  This might be pivotal for the match tomorrow as well.

Day on the South Coast and a chance to see more of the youngsters against decent opposition. Look forward to this.

Albion Matchday Forum / Re: Pre Match Chat
« on: January 07, 2019, 12:40:40 PM »
So I fancy our chances, but Norwich have done well so far this season.  Ideally we score at least twice in the first half and the game drifts beyond Norwich, but I think this will be tight- the kind of game we are going to have to get good at winning if we are to get promoted.  I also feel more confident with the bench as well- At the very least Harper needs to be the first choice to come on. 

Albion Matchday Forum / Re: Pre Match Chat
« on: January 06, 2019, 01:44:50 PM »
Looking forward to this one.  Have a mini bus full of Norwich supporters coming up with me.  So it could be a painful weekend if we do not get a result.  Norwich are on form, and they have a crop of well performing youngsters who will cause us some problems.  Overall though I am feeling optimistic given we are likely to have Hegaizi and Gayle back and overall we have retained the quality in our team.  Like to see Harper get a run out.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Jay Rodriguez
« on: December 31, 2018, 08:24:49 PM »
Justice prevails. 

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Jenkins
« on: December 30, 2018, 01:36:11 PM »
So we will have some limited money for the window, but we will not seriously invest. If we did we could massively increase our chances of automatic promotion, and in not investing we run the risk of being overtaken by the Villa as well as the Wolves who have owners with more ambition and I have to say deeper pockets.  Longer term it is having an owner that has no real logic for owning a football club that has the potential to hurt us.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Jay Rodriguez
« on: December 30, 2018, 08:57:47 AM »
I sit in the East Stand quite close to where the incident happened. What I saw was J Rod moving his leg backwards possible to untangle it, with minimal contact with the player.  The Wednesday player then went down like he had been shot.  As DM said after the match- nothing in it. My cousin who sits behind me is a former league referee, who was also well sighted.  Worryingly he said that although it was marginal he did understand why it had been given. There was some contact ang getting the red rescinded might not be as straight forward as we might hope.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Thoughts on the Season to date
« on: December 24, 2018, 11:23:30 AM »
My thoughs on the season so far are that I have my love for the Albion back. Given what we have been through we are now a joy to watch most of the time and its great to hear all of the pundits talk favourably about us, instead of 'you know the way they are going to set up' etc
I am not going to repeat what everyone else has said, but I would just like to commend Darren on the job he has done to date - to be 3rd and playing well at the half way stage is excellent. Obtaining the services of Gayle and Barnes was good business, I only hope the board buy into our return to the top league when it does happen......

Really looking forward to Wednesday now......

Agreed. Right now this is the most enjoyable season since Hodgson (which I know was not to everyone's taste either).  Okay under Pulis for long periods we did win matches, but the philosophy was always going to crumble eventually (and will everywhere he goes).  Now it has we have to regroup, and DM's performance has to be seen against a need to reinvent the way we were playing, i.e. this was not just picking up a team that were likely to be relegated, he needed to totally change the style with largely the same team.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Thoughts on the Season to date
« on: December 24, 2018, 10:08:48 AM »
At Christmas I am broadly pleased with progress and I think we are relatively resilient and picking up points well.  A lot depends now on recalls- if Harvey Barnes goes back to Leicester that would be a blow, and on injuries- A couple if injuries and like most championship squads things are thin below the first team- You have only good to look at the bench to see this.  That being said love to see some of our youngsters coming through and making progress, which I think DM has an appetite to see.  Much can be seen about the future as to what we do in this transfer window- I think the answer will be very little despite the cash we have at our disposal, and the lack of strengthening in limited key areas may make the difference.  Given my location I have watched Norwich with interest and they will take some catching as will Leeds, but its a long season yet.

Albion Matchday Forum / Re: In Game Chat
« on: December 22, 2018, 03:14:30 PM »
Against a draw specialist this is exactly the start we needed.  Now they have to come at us.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Darren Moore sacked
« on: December 17, 2018, 12:38:11 PM »
I have kept quiet on this debate so far, but feel a need to comment having read the last couple of pages of this thread.  Firstly, on Darren's appointment I think this was quite cynical.  No real money sanctioned to be spent from above (and I do not think that any will be spent in January either), so the owners of the club played to the gallery and appointed Darren on the back of a very limited number of games where he had done exceptionally well and become a hero (as he was already).  Even more cynically if the club declines, Darren will take the bulk of the blame, even though the most pressing problem we have is lack of personnel in key areas- defence in particular.  Second comment is that he is growing into Management as Friday's match showed- he noted the gaps in the blades play and exploited them in the second half, he motivated our team to come out and play on a cold night in December in Sheffield.  I am also going to argue that this is not an isolated case, I think he has done this in a number of matches and is getting better at it as well.  The limitation he has is that he has a really thin squad.  On balance I tend to agree that he was right not to bring on a sub on Friday, even though the team looked tired at times.  However, the challenge is who would he have brought on anyway, there are no real game changers on our bench, and limited coverage in a number of areas.  One or two injuries in the New Year and life will get even tougher.  We can and should go straight back up, but we will not unless we invest in 2-3 key players.  If Darren does not get to do this, it will not be his fault.

Albion Matchday Forum / Re: After Match Debate
« on: December 15, 2018, 09:01:22 AM »

Agreed. There is no need to make substitutions for the sake of it. The second half performance was the best half of the season in terms of us controlling the game and keeping possession, I'm struggling to think when we've played better than that, it would've been silly to change what was working so well.

Darren got it right again, in fact since we binned that blasted 3-4-1-2 and went 4-3-3 he's been pretty much faultless. I think he's doing a magnificent job.
Agree we did well, but I am a little troubled that on the bench yesterday there was no one really we could have brought on to have shaken things up or given Barry a rest.  Feels like we are a bit thin in squad terms.  Hopefully we can address at least some of this in the transfer window.

Albion Matchday Forum / Re: After Match Debate
« on: December 15, 2018, 07:31:20 AM »
So I was really pleased with the result and two really worked goals and good team play.  I am worried that we do not seem to have any approach which makes use of subs- Brunt on for a couple of minutes to wind down the clock, but we either have no one who can change things from the bench, or we have no game plan which allows this.  Some of our team were really tired at the end- having given their all, and could have done with being rested.  Still great win and on to the next one.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Happiest memory as a Baggies fan
« on: December 06, 2018, 01:29:07 PM »
My dad (now 83) was there for two FA cup wins and would count these days out as his best.  I would have to say the day we went back up to the Premiership for the first time.  The anticipation when we were catching the Wolves, the Balis penalty and that last game (Palace?).  One ear on the radio listening to Tony Butler who I miss greatly... at one stage saying that the Palace striker "could not even aim a wee".  The not even vaguely hopeful announcement not to invade the pitch as the entire crowd started to move forward at the end and then the pitch invasion.  A number of people were in tears such was the joy.  Back to the Vine afterwards.  I have never seen so many elated people in one place.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Guochuan Lai
« on: December 06, 2018, 01:23:02 PM »
Expectations by this stage are lowered.  I see no evidence of significant inward investment to the club, and any cash we spend is likely to be generated from sales.  We have a little bit to spend, and we might loose players in the window- Dawson might be at risk.  However, on balance I think we will come out about even.

Low point for me was just before we appointed Megson in the 1999/2000 season.  We seemed destined to go down to be clawed back into league one and our football had gone from reasonable to dreadful.  however, even in the darkest days there is hope.  Megson came in and we avoided relegation.  Okay, it was on the last day, playing an already promoted team and in the process we relegated a plucky Saddlers team which probably deserved to stop up.  The next season we reached the play-offs, and the season after that was our first automatic promotion season when we eased out the Wolves.  The moral is that its always darkest just before it gets light again...

Albion Matchday Forum / Re: In Game Chat
« on: November 28, 2018, 09:25:23 PM »
Time for Gayle now?
I think that would be a good move.

Albion Matchday Forum / Re: Team
« on: November 15, 2018, 02:06:17 PM »
I think we may well see Gayle back in for HRK and possibly Barry in for Morrison, he may also  bring Bartley in as centre half.

I can see why we would play Gayle, HRK had a great last game, but Gayle is better, Barry for Morrison is also not unreasonable (though I would stick with Morrison to start).  I would be disappointed if we bring Bartley back in.  I am not convinced he has the skill we need in defence.  I have not seen him tackle well and his passing is woeful.  Position wise I am also unconvinced.

Albion Matchday Forum / Re: Accident near Cricket Club after the game
« on: November 12, 2018, 12:55:26 PM »
Saw the man on the ground but not the accident itself.  Police and ambulances were quickly on the scene.  I agree with the comments on the Brummy road, it is dangerous.  Over time drivers seem to have got ever more inpatient and are desperate to get out of car parks, often accelerating quickly in front of pedestrians, sometimes past small children. Given the amount of traffic heading back to West Brom, we definitely need pelican crossings on the roundabout.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: TV Games
« on: October 16, 2018, 12:33:54 PM »
Yeah, I think we're probably all agreed on that.

Equally (I'd imagine) we're mostly agreed Sky are taking the absolute piss at the mo'.

Agree with both of the above, I can see why we are interesting to watch on Sky, but tough when you cannot get to some great matches.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: TV Games
« on: October 15, 2018, 09:06:32 PM »
I actually think we have done worse for games moving about in the Championship rather than the Premiership.  Given my location in Norfolk it is really difficult to get back for Friday night games..gggggrrrr!

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