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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Oliver Burke
« on: August 15, 2019, 02:01:08 PM »
A host of German clubs interested in him apparently


If that's the case I would let him go

lets hope they "scout" and carry out as much due diligence as we obviously did or he ay going nowhere.

Not even sure about lower division or Germany.  It's a real shame but looks more and more like a non-league footballer to me.  Seen and played with lots who were strong and pacey....didn't mean they were footballers. 

Further problem is that he doesn't even seem to like much about being a footballer.  Captain for the Scotland under 21's due to his experience, but didn't really mix with the squad?  Not sure what he's like with the Albion boys?

I was excited when he signed and really hoped he would succeed,  and I wish him all the best if he does get a move, but i just can't see it.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Kenneth Zohore joins WBA
« on: August 12, 2019, 12:46:26 PM »
I know that YouTube clips can be misleading but have a look.  At some point for Cardiff in this division he has destroyed defenders with pace and power and been able to apply a cool finish.   He then doesn't play for best part of a year, loses his match fitness and has his confidence shot by a year playing against PL defenders in a division that some strikers are just not able to make the step up to (ask a certain Mr Gayle).  If we can find the player in there that is in those clips, get him fit and confident then who knows.......don't think the £8 million price tag has helped either, do we actually know what we paid up front?  The vine suggested was that it was closer to £2 million upfront??

Lets just hope that those people who have already made up their mind about him don't voice their feelings at the ground! This is a player that COULD turn into a real player in this division, but will need support.   


Albion Matchday Forum / Re: In Game Chat
« on: August 10, 2019, 04:52:21 PM »
Lots of possession as last week but no-one wants to "get in there".

That will be Austin's job.....chi his 100 goals out.  Most are just getting in there

Albion Matchday Forum / Re: In Game Chat
« on: August 10, 2019, 03:14:11 PM »
Not for me it isnt.....says its unavailable

Are you on DAB? Think you have to go old school fm.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Gareth Barry
« on: August 09, 2019, 12:01:54 PM »
Barry over Livermore and Brunt all year long. Easiest decision yet.

Love Brunteh, but please please please no more centre mid appearances.   If Barry's legs still work (must be bionic at his age) then he has to be around first team or on the bench.   Partic if we have pace around him, just need to make sure they don't knock his zimmer.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Director of Football
« on: August 08, 2019, 09:21:06 PM »
I've made no secret of the fact that i'm not a Dowling fan. That's why I get that people on here will take it with a pinch of salt what i'm going to say next, but i'm going to reserve my praise at this stage.

If your only measure is "by the close of the window, have we built a side that looks like it could get promotion this season" , then on the face of it we seem to have done that. We have bought players in every position needed, we seem to have some highly rated youngsters and fans of other clubs will fear us looking in from the outside.

Of course, our 3 wingers today might all be Jacob Murphy level - we won't know until we see them, but in the face of it that is right.

I've not been convinced by the process though. 1 player signed 3 weeks out from deadline day, then a glut of signings from other championship clubs, and then a deadline day supermarket sweep style rush. We needed a goalscorer and a winger all summer but waited till deadline day to do the business. People might make excuses, but the best operators get their business done more efficiently than that.

The glut on wingers we have bought also feels like overkill, blocking the youth prospects. 1 winger felt like enough, 2 at a push, but 3 seems a touch ott for where we are at the moment.

I also have doubts about our scouting still, especially abroad. Majority of signings were players we have faced in the last 2 years, and of the 3 signings from abroad, 1 is an England youth international everyone knows about, Krov was 100% a Bilic led signing and the rumours are that Pereira was also Bilic led (if that isn't the case I do apologise and it would put my mind at ease).

I could be being very unfair on Dowling, but i've still got reservations that today's activity has not removed. I've got lingering doubts that our comparitive financial muscle has possibly got Dowling out of a tight spot, and next summer he might not be so lucky.

DOF brings in top manegement team,  signs exciting young talent bringing down average age and creating better balance to squad.  Gets top price for outgoing and leaves some in pot for Crimbo.  Gets our brightest academy product contracted.   It might all turn to crap..... But as it stands that seems like a decent a decent list of achievement.  Ps only failed to bring back the fans favourite because the player wanted to stay put.   

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Director of Football
« on: August 08, 2019, 08:26:16 PM »
Dowling has antagonised the Academy so much the top staff have nearly all left.  Quite clever really; now he may be able to shut it down without having to make large payoffs?

Did we need Willock as well as Pereira?  Where does Edwards figure in all this?
With Diagana coming in where does Harper figure?
Dowling is signalling that the Academy produces players that are either not good enough or get pinched from us.

I don't believe that this is a good long term strategy.

In answer. Willock? Yes, we need a strong squad. Edwards? He is one of four wingers who will compete for places. Harper? He is one of four CM's competing for places and   he has just signed a contract.  The Academy? Iwould expect at least three or four academy products to feature this year and apart from Barry our academy is consistently bringing in bunce and must be running a profit after the Morgan sale.  Dont really get ya point.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Squad
« on: August 08, 2019, 07:33:09 PM »
Credit where it’s due, the squad looks vastly improved. There will be a lot of question marks over many of our signings from fans, because we won’t have seen much of many of them, but they come with good backgrounds and plenty of reasons to be positive.

If I’m to be critical,  I don’t think we needed both Diang and Willock. I still think we are one centre back light (to free Ajayi as a midfield option as much as anything) and I’m not sure about Zohore. We may lack a bit of a ‘sh*thouse’ in certain situations too.  I guess you can’t do everything in one window though and I’m sure Bilic set out his priorities. Keeping Austin fit and fired up is also key.

I still think they took a huge risk leaving so much so late, seems they’ve got away with it this time but I wouldn’t want to see it I too much in the futureZ

I think  Burke’s finished here as well. I think we will see Willock up front before we see much of Burke there.

Check out Zohore's goals from this division on the tube.  A beast if we can get him fit and confident.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Grady Diangana joins WBA on loan
« on: August 08, 2019, 05:23:44 PM »
In the short term, he seems a decent prospect who could hsve a big impact on our push for promotion. West Ham played him enough times last season to suggest he has something about him and he could very well be perfect for this level.

As for medium to long term, if we also sign Pereira and Willock, on top of what we already have, it comes across as the club having no long term plans for the academy prospects coming through which is hugely dissapointing.

Will know soon enough.

Edwards first team.  Leko not good enough.  Tulloch too young. 

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Matheus Pereira
« on: August 08, 2019, 05:14:25 PM »
Would seem that Willock was there to step in if this main deal fell through?  TBF this boy would have been the icing on the cake.....Austin for me is the cake :)

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Official - Chris Willock joins on loan
« on: August 08, 2019, 05:10:12 PM »
I'm glad I wasn't the only person to think that! Hopefully that isn't the case...

If he turns out to be as good as Barnes I wont mind if we only get him for half the season. But think Barne's impact will be a bit of a one off and we have other options.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Signed Official - Charlie Austin
« on: August 08, 2019, 04:27:10 PM »
interested to get peoples views as to wether Austin and Zohore could be a partnership?

Just watched their highlights and yes, definitely.  Options.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Signed Official - Charlie Austin
« on: August 08, 2019, 03:34:54 PM »
Welcome Charlie.  :)

£4m for a proven goalscorer in championship, good deal by the club if he stays fit.

One injury plagued thirty year old but proven goalscorer out and one thirty year old injury plagued but proven goalscorer in....with a million plus quid in the bank and another £5m to come??  Is Jeremy back in the building? 

Happy with that!!

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Charlie Austin
« on: August 08, 2019, 03:13:27 PM »
Sam Wallace, chief football writer for telegraph and very well respected in media has reported the deal has now been completed. Would imagine we will see a confirmation tweet from club in next 30 mins.

Hope the rumours of a poor attitude are incorrect, as on the face of it he could do well here.

I remember him really losing his crap over a goal being disallowed - don't mind that!!!

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Charlie Austin
« on: August 08, 2019, 02:11:19 PM »
Townsend kanu Anelka lambert sturridge   

No interest in coming here
Way past their best
Not fit
Cynically looking to squeeze one last pay day out
Zero on sell value
how many times do we have to make this mistake for us to learn not to repeat it
Im so disappointed

Would rather stay in PL - wouldn't you?
If he was at his best we wouldn't be in the market for him
By account has had a reasonable last 12 months fitness wise? And still popped in the odd PL goal
I don't see many footballers out there who go onto be charity workers and I imagine Southampton will need to iether contribute to his wages or pay him off.
1 year left on his contract so should be minimal outlay
Beggars and choosers....we WANTED the Albanian!!
Be disappointed when he breaks down after five games having scored no goals.

For the position we are in (Chump club on last day of the window) he would be a decent signing.   Compare to Wells and Hogan who have already moved.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Under 23's/ Academy Thread
« on: August 07, 2019, 03:57:26 PM »
Richard Cresswell has left his post as Head of Academy coaching at Leeds.


There's a rumour doing the rounds he may pitch up here along with former Baggie Jonathan Greening.

That's a nice rumour to be going around, I loved watching Jesus play and would be great to have him back.  First player i saw at the Albion who could regularly pass a ball more than 30 yards to feet.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Matheus Pereira
« on: August 07, 2019, 03:01:55 PM »
Wrong Pereira entirely...

indeed the Portuguese right-back joins the Robins on a season-long loan with the option to purchase from Benfica.

Pause meltdown.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Slaven Bilic Albion’s New Head Coach
« on: August 07, 2019, 02:55:11 PM »
I'm going to wait until the window closes to elaborate but I'm having serious concerns over Bilic / Albion and certain situations.

I understand we are still at the stage where Slaven is king, we trust blindly and all that but I'm far from convinced at present.

More once the window closes.

oh you tease........

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Michael Appleton
« on: August 05, 2019, 01:04:05 PM »
Help me to understand why this is such a great appointment. I assure you I am not being rude, sarcastic or negative in any way. I do however recall the almost universal disapproval when it was felt he was going to be our next first team gaffer a few short months ago. Surely the U23 side is a key development area for the first team, hence the question.

very, very different role.

If he secures promotion then it’s a no brainier. Guaranteed 20+ goals. £10m if promoted which is nothing in the greed league.

+1 and lots of zeroes

Too old to buy in the current recruitment model, picks up injuries and we can't really afford his wages BUT if there is any way to bring him here (within reason) we have to do it.  A down payment with rest to follow on promotion?  Minimum 20 goals if he stays fit! and for him, the potential for legend status if we go up and he scores a bucketful.   Some players don't give a S***e about that kind of stuff, but something tells me he does.  Only seen three natural goalscorers in my time as an Albion fan; SKP, Odenwingie and this man.   They make so much difference.

Just waiting for the local update telling us it aint going to happen :(

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Michael Appleton
« on: August 05, 2019, 10:10:17 AM »
Think that's a great appointment.  To get someone with that level of experience for the under 23's....not sure he would have taken the role at another club? 

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Director of Football
« on: July 19, 2019, 12:44:58 PM »
Give the bloke a chance, good lord. If we're still threadbare after the deadline goes by I'd be very surprised, were trying to rebuild a squad with younger permanent players on a small budget, it's not an easy task and getting the right people will take longer than getting people clubs cant wait to be shot of.

Zohore just signed up, Ajayi's supposedly on his way (which could potentially be the bargain of the season if he performs as he can) and other irons in the fire that we both know and dont know about, were clearly going to bring younger bodies in with a long term vision. In Ashworth style, some will pay off and some wont, but that's what we want to get ourselves back to.

 I can understand it's frustrating but have faith and judge the window when its closed.

The same day(ish) Rondon goes out the door, we have a new striker come through the door like for like(ish).  Can't say fairer than that?  Much work for Dowling to do though, MUCH work.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Kenneth Zohore
« on: July 19, 2019, 12:40:16 PM »
Before signing for us Odemwingie had played for Lille & Lokomotiv Moscow (who signed him for £14m dollars) and played in the champions league. He also had 54 international caps for Nigeria, had played at the World Cup, four African cups of nations (voted into team of the tournament in 2010) and the Olympics. In 2006/07 he scored two goals against AC Milan at the San Siro. He was a top player of real pedigree, the real deal. Our decline commenced when he was shunted out to the left wing.

Zohore on the other hand has is a championship player with some assets (size, age and potential) and weaknesses with a fair few detractors (uninspiring goal record, inconsistent, questionable work rate), not least many of his own Cardiff fans. He will have my support like any new player but I'm not dancing on the ceiling.

Coming to a Championship Club  This is the table we are now eating at.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Kenneth Zohore
« on: July 18, 2019, 10:06:46 AM »
Tall, athletic forward inconsistent in front of goal with one year left on his contract -  out.  Tall athletic forward inconsistent in front of goal with one year left on his contract - in.  And we appear to be £8m up.   Time will tell, but seems ok to me.     

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: One month to go
« on: July 08, 2019, 11:45:46 AM »
Yes, I agree and evolution is now transforming into revolution, but that might not be a bad thing if we get the right ones in. I’m just pleased Bilic is here to add direction to the revolution.

A revolution was always coming....if we had gone up the squad was no where near good enough.   Despite the fact that it contained "Premier League" quality players (squad players and no more I would imagine for Daws and JRod) it felt stale and this is needed although risky and stepping into the unknown with the new DofF and manager.

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