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Albion Matchday Forum / Re: After Match Debate
« on: July 01, 2020, 10:10:50 PM »
Thought O'Shea was excellent and should keep the shirt.

Agreed.   O'Shea is solid and can drop into that back three role which allows Gibbs to get on his bike.  Hegazi and Gibbs a shoe in.  A few clangers apart Bartley has had a decent season. 

Diagana drops to the bench on tonight's performance with Robinson and then Grosicki more direct and effective.   Shouldn't expect to see Phillips again this year.

Have to say that watching CA and Hal tonight it is amazing we are top two with those guys as our first choice strikers.  Effort yes, and cool penalty but Zero threat in open play. 

Perrira not at his best, but constantly trying to push us forward and with his goals he really is the number one man.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Charlie Austin
« on: June 28, 2020, 04:38:14 PM »
Not sure it's legs with Austin, just don't think he's committed to the cause, CA plays for CA from what I've seen

Absolute garbage.  The man is frustrated by his own body.  Pace and instinct gone but not the heart.  Shame.

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Albion Matchday Forum / Re: After Match Debate
« on: June 20, 2020, 06:17:44 PM »
Frustrating yes, but not a terrible performance.  We take possession for granted but we knocked it around well enough it was just the tricks, flicks and final balls that didn't come off.  Phillips particularly guilty I felt. BLues were unlucky to be beaten at St Andrews, they are well organised and hard to breakdown.  Days like these are when the clinical sniffer is worth their weight in gold, a SKP who would have scored at the death, off his backside if needed.  Niether Hal, CA or Zohore have that instinct.  CA had it in the past but seems to be caught rooted to the spot an awful lot when the ball is flying about the box.  We've lost to worse teams and are top for the night. 

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Albion Matchday Forum / Re: In Game Chat
« on: March 07, 2020, 04:01:00 PM »
Perreira totally off the boil at the mo.  The little touches that were working earlier this season now going straight to the opposition.   Still better than most at this level though.

O'Shea put in one wonderful cross on the run, but the rest have been pretty aimless, room for improvement there.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Rekeem Harper
« on: March 05, 2020, 12:40:28 PM »
After 'having a word with myself' I agree with me, he is lazy! He loses the ball and rather than chase after it to get it back he stands still shaking his head and moping about it, every single time!
So if he was carrying 2 pensioners against Newcastle and looked good, what was his excuse for being absolutely awful against Wigan??
He looks knackered the minute the games kicked off and there is nothing about him that screams star in the making to me, exactly the same as Leko or Field, if we sold any of them we would not miss them one bit.

Blimey, mind made up!! I've seen plenty of shoddy looking players we've shelled out very good money for, so I'm happy to give one of our own a few years to develop either here or out on loan.   

If he gets some more game time I'll be sure to keep an eye on his off the ball work rate, see if i can agree with you.

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By the end of the season it may well be more a case of "if we can get him" rather than "if we want him" if he carries on improving.   He is getting better and better every week, no longer getting bullied off the ball and really impacting games.   Not the finished article or the complete player, but looks to have the technical ability for the PL and a great attitude.




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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Jonathan Leko (on loan at Charlton)
« on: March 05, 2020, 11:41:45 AM »
May be controversial but, I think, some of the time they are too busy trying to prove racism where it isn't (e.g. Moore's sacking) than dealing with it where it actually is, like in Leko's case.
The PFA have actually come out and said that they e-mailed the club, not sure if us or Charlton, but got no response so "presumed" their help was not required. Did they not think it pertinent to actually speak to the lad?
Really wish our club would come out in support of him as I'm sure the fans will when they get chance.

An email to the club!! Not exactly reaching out to offer support to the player is it?  Shoddy.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Rekeem Harper
« on: March 05, 2020, 11:31:50 AM »
In my opinion, Harper is another Leko, lazy and over-hyped. His lack of stamina is shocking and he should be nowhere near the first team. If this was a signing and not 'one of our own' the patience would have worn thin a long time ago.

I just don't get this "lazy" accusation.   Against Newcastle he covered real ground trying to make up for the two pensioners along side him.  Understandably by the end of the game his legs had gone.   

He's 19 and only played so much last year because we had a paucity of CM's.    He's been managed much better this year, and will only improve.   As part of the learning process he will make bad decisions and play some poor passes (as he did the other night) but his ability to travel at pace with the ball and go past players is very good and he shows flashed of real skill.  He does show his frustration to readily,  but that doesn't seem to have stopped Brunt having a fantastic career.

This is a youth academy product who has signed a contract and will go through his developmental years with us.  Might he make a top Championship or PL player? its too early to tell but unlike Barry, Rogers and Ferguson at least we will get to see the journey.

Have a word with yourself.


 

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Jonathan Leko (on loan at Charlton)
« on: March 05, 2020, 10:48:08 AM »
This has barely made the news! Nothing on BBC Football homepage.
Makes my blood boil. We get all sanctimonious when it happens to one of our players in Foreign lands yet, when it's one of our own on home soil, it gets swept under the carpet.

"Young black man suffers racist abuse and responds by following due process, then challenges the judgement in an intelligent and articulate way" is not a headline the press are looking for.

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Albion Matchday Forum / Re: After Match Debate
« on: March 03, 2020, 09:58:50 PM »
Bye bye Brunty.  Unlikely to see him in the stripes again.  Wonderful wide man in his time but was never a CM.  We saw a midfield of Brunt, Barry and Harper last year and it was painful to watch and it hadn't improved.

Harper? Shows flashes of potential but needs to add a lot more to his game. The next 12 months in his development are very important.  Same could be said for Edwards,  when he just goes direct he looks very dangerous.

Bond is not the messiah!! Johnson keeps the shirt.

Playing one up top Zohore is a better option than Austin who offers ZERO in that role.

We need to buy Krov,, there is no doubt he can offer something If we step up to the PL.

Slav did what he had to do with promotion the priority.  He played two experienced pros who some fans felt should be utilised more.   Makes you realise how much more mobile Sawyers, Livermore, Pez and Krov are. 

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Albion Matchday Forum / Re: After Match Debate
« on: February 15, 2020, 03:07:57 PM »
Forest decent at what they do, disciplined, good shape with some threat on the break.  We know where the weaknesses are in our team and why we concede.  SJ doesn't command, KB has an error a game in him, Sawyers links play well but poor at closing down and HRK's hold up is good but no threat.   We genuinely go out to score at least one more than you and I'm happy with that.   How these players will do in the PL is irrelevant cause we ay there yet.

Dissapointing to concede so late but it was a  fantastic strike, and in a strange way not an unfair result.  Our lead is intact and we stopped a rival gaining on us.

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Albion Matchday Forum / Re: In Game Chat
« on: February 15, 2020, 01:31:24 PM »
We've controlled the game to an extent but despite being 2nd best Forest have had all the best chances.


Great goal by us but there is something fundamentally wrong with the middle of this team.

In terms of linking defense through to midfield and attack Sawyers is a fantastic player, he can pick up balls in a tight area and keep things moving..... Can't tackle for toffee though. 

HRK in this system does good work but has zero threat.

SJ is a decent keeper but does not command his box.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Jake Livermore
« on: February 13, 2020, 06:07:18 AM »
Outstanding again tonight.

Yep.   I was a Jacko level critic of his last year, but  in this side he can play to his strengths.  Covers ground, quick and strong in the tackle and drives the team on.   Looks a leader too. 

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Albion Matchday Forum / Re: After Match Debate
« on: February 12, 2020, 10:33:49 PM »
Amazed we didn't score 6 we ripped them to pieces and were the dominant team.

I'd like to see us being more ruthless when on top.  Reading we're there for the taking on 50mins at 1-2 and they somehow crept back into it.

Disappointed with the ludicrous penalty, we made things harder than it needed to be yet again.

I thought Krov did nothing 2nd half and Phillips should've come on 10mins earlier.  No idea why HRK stayed on for 85, he wasn't involved after 55.  Surely Austin should start v Forest with the quick turnaround?

HRK is playing superbly at the moment, he is a one man Welsh battering ram up there.  Just don't think Austin can do that job but do agree he could have come on earlier. 

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Albion Matchday Forum / Re: After Match Debate
« on: February 12, 2020, 10:24:34 PM »
Excellent for an hour, fell away a bit after that. Think we were a bit short of pace and Krovinovic didn’t seem to build on his recent performance, while Kanu didn’t do much.

Some great play at times but for me I’d like a bit more pace on at least one of the wings and Pereira behind the striker which for me would be Robinson.

A great win though. So proud of what we are as a team when compared against the darkest days of Pulis.

+1 and a loads more.   


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Albion Matchday Forum / Re: After Match Debate
« on: February 12, 2020, 10:18:42 PM »
At times this team is wonderful to watch with one touch passing and real threat, the first 15 minutes of the second half just top class. What Slav has now added to try and turn things around from the poor run is a harder and higher press and they really worked their nuts off tonight from front to back.    Yes, Reading came back into it through their wide men but we hung on in their and just kept pressing and attacking.  Celebrations at the end were fantastic, Perreira and Krov look like they are loving it here.   Proud.

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Albion Matchday Forum / Re: In Game Chat
« on: February 12, 2020, 09:03:06 PM »
Same old, The attitude and application is disgusting, It's as if they don't want to be premier league players. Sawyers is just giving the ball away for fun as usual then follows up with giving free kicks away, Bartley's having a mare. And Kanu is rubbish.

These are there for the taking if we was just ruthless. Not having a decent striker is evident.

Nope..... Knocking it around well but not creating clear chances, hopefully should come.  Reading defending incredibly deep for a home side.   Our work rate is high, watch how quickly they close down the Reading players. Very proud of the way this side tries to play so just..... Nope.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Romaine Sawyers
« on: February 09, 2020, 08:40:26 PM »
Sawyers can frustrate at times, BUT his ability to pitch the ball up in time spaces and play a forward pass is almost priceless.  We had No ONE with that ability last season.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Officially Signed: Kamil Grosicki
« on: January 31, 2020, 03:42:23 PM »
I'd start him over Edwards. Get him into the thick of it.

Yep, match fit and big game experience. Straight in.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Slaven Bilic
« on: January 29, 2020, 01:28:21 PM »
 
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people slag livermore or sawyers off instead. the movement last night was like watching a team of 75 year olds play. imagine being in that midfield role with the options you have?


Totally agree.  There is SOME difference looking up and seeing the movement of Perreira and Diaganna alongside a firing HRK compared to Krov and Edwards and a duff HRK.   Sawyers job is to pick up the ball from defense in difficult and tight  positions and distribute through the lines to a more attacking player - this is a massively underrated quality and we had NO ONE who could do that last year but once he is needed to add creativity further up the field he loses his impact.  Livermore is there to do the box to box work, and get the odd shot off again, once he is needed to add creativity he looks much less effective.

The criticism that could be directed at Billic is that he has kept the same system and hoped that Edwards and Krov could replace the two main men.  Both are triers, but just not in same class.   The quality of those two, alongside the early season form of Phillips, also masked how good our strikers actually are.  It has needed a plan B to be initiated until our best players returned (as in the Cup).

Hopefully, once Grady and Perreira return - alongside some much needed re-reinforcements (of which Robinson is the first) we can go back to letting Sawyers and Livermore do what they do best and Billic will have again have the tools for Plan A to work.     

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Slaven Bilic
« on: January 29, 2020, 01:05:34 PM »
I'm far from someone who is at the point of wanting to sack Bilic, but the bit I have highlighted is utter rubbish. Do you really think that Bilic had nothing to do with signing Zohore, nothing to do with signing Austin, nothing to do with giving HRK an extended contract? He has to take his share of responsibility, even if others have been equally culpable.

Only if the option was Zohore or nowt!!  It's been evident that he's never really trusted him from the get go or he would have had an extended run, and indeed at one point he was completely bombed out of the squad.   If Robinson is fit i expect him to be bombed out again, lets hope the £ figures mentioned for him were very much performance related.

Austin yes, it is obvious that he likes Charlie but on closer assessment of his pace and fitness wants to play him as an impact sub - a role in which he has been tremendous at times.

HRK deserved his year extension, and he had a real purple patch earlier in the year but like other players his form has dipped back to more realistic levels.

I am not saying we should not be questioning some of Billic's decisions, but there is no way he would be happy with the striking options he has at his disposal and this has been confirmed by the first player through the door being a forward with a decent scoring record in the division.   

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Callum Robinson signs on loan
« on: January 29, 2020, 12:57:54 PM »
check out his goals highlights from that last season with Preston (when he scored against us at home).  I thought it would be shots of a wide player scoring after cutting in, but lots of tap ins and smart finishes.   COULD BE just what we need coming in under the radar.   

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Albion Matchday Forum / Re: In Game Chat
« on: January 28, 2020, 09:28:51 PM »
Johnstone got flustered by the Cardiff player getting in his face and threw out the worst of balls to Bartley .... no composure at all. Terrible.

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Albion Matchday Forum / Re: In Game Chat
« on: January 28, 2020, 08:49:30 PM »
Are we? Some pretty possession on the half way line but it’s toothless.

Edwards has been rubbish and I don’t think I’ve seen him beat his full back once

Beat him to set up Phillips? near the centre spot who completely fluffed it.  One on one he can do him but the rarely let that happen. 

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Callum Robinson
« on: January 28, 2020, 02:11:51 PM »
If you find this underwhelming.....you may never be whelmed !!! ;D

Good age and proven in THIS division with a decent scoring record, plus somebody at Sheff Utd also saw enough in him to take him to the PL.  Loan or loan to permanent most likely, so keeps the money in the bank for Bilic's main target (we very rarely give any indication of who we are really after).  He's also played 16 games this season, so shouldn't be coming with zero match fitness as other loans in the past. 

Plus unlike last year we are not desperately trying to find a replacement for Barnes, who was irreplaceable, this is just a squad addition.  Edwards is three years behind in his development on Robinson, and i'm sure Billic see's him as an impact sub. 

I'll take that, thank you very much.

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