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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Matty Phillips
« on: August 14, 2019, 06:50:29 AM »
Considering we have quite a few wider options, why not play Marty up front? He knows where the goal is and has a presence. Did he not do this for Scotland at some point?

 Yes he did and I'm sure he's being considered as back-up in that role. It's far too early for plan B just yet though, we need the wide players to be providing plenty of attacking threat in the box also.

General Football & Sports / Re: OFFICIAL LEAGUE 1 and LEAGUE 2 THREAD
« on: August 13, 2019, 06:47:58 PM »
An absolute nightmare for Bury fans... but for the grace of god etc

Given all of the money in ther game in the top league I think that the great footballing minds should get together and help clubs like Bury and Bolton etc to save them from going out of business. Not necessarily give them money, but to loan them the funds to save them and to have an administration in place to ensure that they do not go out of business. After all, these are the feeder clubs that some of our better players come through.

and here we are discussing our goalkeeper and centre back..........puts it all in perspective to me.
It's a fair point you make but there is another argument that says, there are clubs surviving on a very tight budget who also wouldn't mind a bit of a handout as security. Would it make clubs lazier if they knew there was bail out available if they went bust ?
Newport is the situation I know best. As most will know, they went bust were reformed as a new club by supporters, forced to play outside Wales and have progressed through the pyramid to the league 2 play off final last season and cup games against Man City, Spurs and Leicester in the last 2 seasons. It's an ongoing situation which could tail off again but they know the dangers of over ambition through experience.

Albion Matchday Forum / Re: After Match Debate
« on: August 13, 2019, 08:20:38 AM »
Johnstone- nothing to do but one thing he could have was come for cross and he didn’t

Bartley- is improving all the time

Semi - I like him but he’s not a centre half. Rotherham fans told us that. I hope he’s pushed into midfield when hegazi returns

Ferguson/Gibbs both very good

Sawyers/krovinovic lovely to see us control a game. Like these two in midfield

Phillips- has good game. One piece of control and pace from Bartley’s diagonal was exceptional

Edwards - excellent dribbles, just needs work on end product

Zohore - jury’s out
Regarding Semi and CB, here are some of his comments from this article


"I've played centre-half the longest, so I'm most comfortable there, but I equally enjoy playing in midfield and I've played at right-back a bit,” he explained.
"I've put in good performances in those positions, but I see myself as a defender that can play in midfield.”

The former Arsenal academy player is looking forward to working under Bilic, a former centre-half himself.

And he admitted he was eager to come to The Hawthorns once he heard Albion were interested, picking them over Barnsley.

“It was a big draw because he's obviously had a great playing career and a great managerial career,” said Ajayi. "With him being a former centre-half, I feel like I can learn a lot from working under him.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: OUT ON LOAN THREAD
« on: August 10, 2019, 11:53:32 AM »
Interestingly Wilson's loan is only until January, not a season long loan
There's a January recall option in the Field and Leko deals also I believe which makes sense really. Not sure if Charlton could end either deal early if they wanted to.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Oliver Burke
« on: August 09, 2019, 06:58:32 PM »
I think it's too early to say he's not a striker. There are different types of striker, he has undoubtedly got pace and physical stature. He didn't have much of a look-in on Saturday after he came on ...though he did have the sense to take the ball into the corner towards the end of the game.
Remains to be seen how much of a look-in he gets. There's a lot of competition now and he's going to have to impress day in day out in training and in whatever game time he gets.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Gareth Barry
« on: August 09, 2019, 06:27:34 PM »
I think Ajayi will stay at CB as that's what he sees as his main position and we've lost Dawson so.....Barry is sensible cover as a defensive minded CM. Livermore and Barry are the only ones who fall into this category now that Field is out of the picture.

General Football & Sports / Re: OFFICIAL CHAMPIONSHIP THREAD
« on: August 09, 2019, 07:53:34 AM »
Hadn't realised that Bobby Reid was a late Cardiff departure to Fulham. He wanted to leave as Warnock's style didn't suit him. Difficult to see them doing anything more than maybe just scraping into the play-offs. There could be a prem hangover and Warnock is sounding jaded.

It looks like Leeds, Fulham and ourselves are the three favorites with Derby, Boro and Stoke next for me.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Squad
« on: August 08, 2019, 09:31:48 PM »
Is anyone else concerned about defensive cover? I'm all for getting O'Shea involved but have we got enough? One injury and we appear to have issues.
Surely they won't let Fitzwater out on loan, as some are saying, while Hegazi is out
A month ago we wouldn't have had Ferguson as 1st team right back. We have to trust certain youngsters to provide the depth in the squad and step up when needed. O'Shea should be playing in the cup game in the week.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Under 23's/ Academy Thread
« on: August 08, 2019, 08:21:37 PM »
Leko and field out. I doubt more will go today as league one and league 2 clubs have to September. I guess the dust will settle then we can see what the squad looks like.

We should be taking advantage of the situation at Bolton- they have no players the likes of Wilson O'Shea or Fitzwater could go there and get some serious game time
We would usually have 4 centre backs in the squad and I'd think O'Shea is 4th CB at least.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Guochuan Lai
« on: August 08, 2019, 08:15:34 PM »
hasn't put his hand in his pocket since Ebenezer mugged him.
Why should he ? If we are now in profit on the window dealings then good. We have no actual reason to suspect that that money won't go into the football club coffers in some form.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Director of Football
« on: August 08, 2019, 08:06:47 PM »
Dowling has antagonised the Academy so much the top staff have nearly all left.  Quite clever really; now he may be able to shut it down without having to make large payoffs?

Did we need Willock as well as Pereira?  Where does Edwards figure in all this?
With Diagana coming in where does Harper figure?
Dowling is signalling that the Academy produces players that are either not good enough or get pinched from us.

I don't believe that this is a good long term strategy.
It would be strange if Dowling has the power to shut the academy down.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Director of Football
« on: August 08, 2019, 07:12:51 PM »
Knives away for Jenkins and Lai also - at least for a while. At least Lai seems to be following the 'self sustaining' model he mentioned i.e. he's not asset stripping. 

On the evidence so far, we could have far worse owners.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Sam Field
« on: August 08, 2019, 12:17:41 PM »
Hopefully, Bowyer will instill a little bit more physical and mental toughness to his game
I'm not so sure he's lacking in these anyway. Games is what he needs. He'll also be getting life experience moving away from home and into a club where he won't know anyone, except Leko.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Under 23's/ Academy Thread
« on: August 07, 2019, 10:49:10 PM »
Hopefully Edwards has earned the right to stay in the side for Saturday regardless of who comes in. Whoever is signed tomorrow won't have much bedding in time for Saturday.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Sam Field
« on: August 06, 2019, 11:16:41 PM »
Or do we just make excuses for him because he's 'one of our own'?
I still don't know where the evidence is for you clearly thinking he's just not up to it. People talk about managers not rating or trusting him but ....Pulis played him a reasonable amount considering his age at the time and the fact we were in the prem. Megson played him. Pardew, well what can we say.  Moore disappointingly didn't give him enough chances. Bilic, time will tell. There's just scant visual evidence from his appearances to suggest he's not up to it.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Chris Brunt
« on: August 05, 2019, 09:51:19 PM »

From memory Brunt was out of the side when Moore got the boot. Jimmy Shan brought him back into the side and he was excellent.
Sorry I genuinely can't think of one game where he was close to excellent, and certainly not against Villa. He played the ball of the season for Gayle's goal against Preston but he didn't boss anything or run our midfield. I think he can make important contributions for the last 20 - 25 minutes in certain games from the bench this year.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Nathan Ferguson
« on: August 03, 2019, 10:13:06 PM »
Deserves his own thread after todays game, excellent debut performance

Anyone remember this  :D

Look forward to his first goal celebration then :) Impressive debut.

Albion Matchday Forum / Re: After Match Debate
« on: August 03, 2019, 09:39:11 PM »
Very encouraging start. Control and movement in midfield, hallelujah.

Midfield balance much better and Krovinovic will probably improve further with 3 or 4 more games under his belt.
Edwards a threat, can go both ways and pace to burn. With him and Burke on the pitch we have two with the serious pace to hurt teams.
Ferguson impressive. I recall it was Pardew, yes him, who mentioned being impressed with him and seemed to be instrumental in getting him signed on a contract.

Semi did all that was asked very efficiently. Gibbs very good until injured.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Sam Field
« on: August 03, 2019, 09:28:39 PM »
I don't think we should read too much into who a manager mentions or otherwise at the end of the game as he's not reading off a prepared script.

If he's not going to figure much though then I hope he gets a years league 1 football under his belt.

Saying that Sawyers should be the deep lying midfielder with the freedom to drop deeper and slot passes or to move forward when he sees the openings. It's Livermore or Field to play alongside him and give him that bit of freedom.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Slaven Bilic Albion’s New Head Coach
« on: August 03, 2019, 09:18:10 PM »
Very encouraged to hear him after the game talking about controlling games. Basically saying it's difficult to be at the top of the league playing on the counter attack. Music to the ears.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Midfield control
« on: August 03, 2019, 09:14:44 PM »
Agree, it's great to finally have proper ball-playing midfielders in the middle who look comfortable on the ball. Last proper player of that ilk was Mulumbu before his decline.
I didn't class Mulumbu as a ball-playing midfielder ...but that's totally irrelevant.

It's what we've been crying out for for God knows how long, three in midfield and 2 of them mobile and with ability on the ball...and not afraid to play it simple at times.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Squad
« on: August 02, 2019, 06:53:41 PM »
The squad has some huge gaps and with less than a week to go, i'm not convinced we will adequately fill them.

We have an abundance of deep lying central midfielders (Livermore, Field, Harper, Brunt and Sawyers), but none of them give me any confidence in terms of shielding the back line when we are defending. The player who might be able to do that going on Rotherham fan's opinion's is Ajayi, but it seems we have signed him as a centre half.

As for defence, I liked the look of Ajayi vs B'mouth but i've seen 3 or 4 different Rotherham fans all say that he makes too many mistakes to be a top championship defender and instead needs to play midfield. Worry he could be another Bartley but will reserve judgement. Hegazi when back is one of the best defenders in the division but Bartley is only really good when playing a deep line and for backs to the wall defending. With Furlong able to play there and with O'Shea coming through we might have enough options but we will have to wait and see if the defence have enough quality, especially without adequate shielding from the midfield.

In attack, we have brought in creativity in Krovinovic and Sawyers which feels like the building blocks to an exciting team, but we have only 1 proven winger (who gets injured a lot) and no goal scoring strikers. Leko, Burke and Edwards have all flattered to deceive up to this point so we can't rely on them as first choices yet.

I'm annoyed we have left it this late to fill the gaping hole in attack, especially with us having acquired some good attacking foundations in Sawyers and Krov.
Regarding the gaping hole in attack, it seems that Albian Ajeti is our prime target. I'm assuming that we are still hoping to get this done and if it takes until Thursday to get it done then it will be worth it to get the main target. I also assume/hope that we have a plan B, C and D there with other targets whether permanent or loan signings. It seems a similar situation with Pereira for a wide player.
At some point this season it should, at last, be the time to give Field, Leko, Burke and Edwards a decent run of 4 or 5 games on the spin and really see where they are at. I hope that starts tomorrow for Field in the deep lying midfield role and maybe one of the wide players also. Hopefully Slaven will show more confidence in these players and encourage them to show their ability....and not discard them at the first mistake or ineffective game, which can happen to anyone.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: System tactics personnel
« on: July 28, 2019, 10:09:59 PM »
Or play Ajayi in his best position - midfield.

I think a central midfield of:

        Sawyers   Ajayi

Would provide the best balance. Ajayi as the ball winner, Sawyers in the box to box role he played last season (linking the defence and attack), and Krovinovic supporting the striker.
In his own words this week, he sees himself as a defender who can also play in midfield.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Sam Field
« on: July 28, 2019, 09:40:52 AM »
I admit to being a little sceptical about  Sam, but if he can’t step up to the plate and put in performances with a Head Coach like Bilić, then I am right, but honestly and sincerely I hope I am wrong as I do like the lad
In fairness to Sam he's lacked opportunities over the past 18 months, basically since Megson went. It's not as though he's continually been given chances and not performed, we've persisted with Brunt, Barry, Livermore. If Bilic backs him and gives him 5 or 6 games on the spin, we'll have a fair chance to judge where he's at now.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Romaine Sawyers rejoins Albion
« on: July 28, 2019, 07:27:57 AM »
Thomas Frank the Brentford manager saying yesterday that he'll miss Romaine as a person and player, said he's a good presence about the place.

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