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Off Topic => General Football & Sports => Topic started by: AlbionFan on February 10, 2019, 04:05:21 PM

Title: Great Player = Good Manager?
Post by: AlbionFan on February 10, 2019, 04:05:21 PM
Paul Scholes is set to be unveiled as the Oldham Athletic manager at a press conference on Monday at 14:00 GMT.

Always, always enjoyed watching him play, except against us of course. He comes across as a grounded type of bloke with no airs and graces and says it as it is. I hope he turns out to be as good a Manager / Head Coach as he was player.

Having seen Thierry Henry fail miserably at his first attempt at management and Gerrard and Lampard getting off to solid starts in theirs, it is still a difficult transition to make. 
Title: Re: Great Player = Good Manager?
Post by: 17GD on February 10, 2019, 06:37:35 PM
The main strength a coach needs is the ability to communicate. A lot of players may have amazing skills with their feet but if they can't bring out those skills in others then they will fail.

Yes, a good understanding of the game is important but again, fail to get the vital information over to the players and it means nothing.

It's interesting that Mourinho, Wenger and even Fergie to an extent, didn't play a great deal or win trophies during playing days. Mourinho didn't even play.

You only have to listen to some players interviews to see they can't string a sentence together so they've got no chance at coaching.

Scholes might be ok, he seemed to be able to communicate on the pitch.
Title: Re: Great Player = Good Manager?
Post by: alex1 on February 10, 2019, 06:53:17 PM
A good manager has the ability to take a group of players and make them better than they were. And, yes, good communication skills are vital.
Interesting that top players as Bobby Moore and Bobby Charlton tried and failed hopelessly as managers. And Bryan Robson never really cut it as a manager or he'd still be in a job. 
Title: Re: Great Player = Good Manager?
Post by: ex coseley kid on February 10, 2019, 07:16:29 PM
Must admit I always liked old spotty. Best of luck to him.
Title: Re: Great Player = Good Manager?
Post by: AlbionFan on February 11, 2019, 04:35:06 PM
Confirmed

"Paul Scholes appointed as new Oldham Athletic manager"

Very best of luck Paul!

Source: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2019/02/11/paul-scholes-appointed-new-oldham-athletic-manager/
Title: Re: Great Player = Good Manager?
Post by: AlbionFan on February 11, 2019, 04:52:30 PM
The 31 managers who played at Manchester United under Sir Alex Ferguson

Some great players, but who would you consider to be a good manager from that 31? For me, being fussy, I'd go for Blanc, Strachan, Bruce

Source: https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11667/11077865/the-31-managers-who-played-at-manchester-united-under-sir-alex-ferguson
Title: Re: Great Player = Good Manager?
Post by: johnny Cash on February 11, 2019, 05:04:01 PM
I don’t know how this is allowed considering he owns 10% of Salford.

It may seem a modest percentage but if Salford get promoted it creates an obvious situation for the game to be brought into disrepute integrity of the game to be questioned. Should be a straight no

Title: Re: Great Player = Good Manager?
Post by: WBArgo on February 11, 2019, 05:19:22 PM
I think he will fail. As mentioned, a big part of management is about communication - he seems too shy and dour/negative to be a manager.
Title: Re: Great Player = Good Manager?
Post by: tommcneill on February 11, 2019, 05:35:32 PM
Good luck to him, good to see some of our best players of a generation going into management and at lower league aswell
Title: Re: Great Player = Good Manager?
Post by: MarkW on February 11, 2019, 05:50:47 PM
I don’t know how this is allowed considering he owns 10% of Salford.

It may seem a modest percentage but if Salford get promoted it creates an obvious situation for the game to be brought into disrepute integrity of the game to be questioned. Should be a straight no



It went to a FA committee before he could take the job
Title: Re: Great Player = Good Manager?
Post by: johnny Cash on February 11, 2019, 06:11:19 PM
It went to a FA committee before he could take the job

I know, but it still shouldn’t be allowed.
Title: Re: Great Player = Good Manager?
Post by: liverbaggie on February 11, 2019, 11:55:52 PM
John Giles wasn't bad.
Title: Re: Great Player = Good Manager?
Post by: AlbionFan on February 12, 2019, 08:00:31 AM
John Giles wasn't bad.

Wholeheartedly agree, loved JG, but like Brian Talbot when he stopped being the "player/manger" and couldn't influence the on field tactics, things didn't quite work out