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Title: Tyrone Mears
Post by: Atomic on August 28, 2018, 11:04:01 AM
https://www.wba.co.uk/news/2018/august/mears-joins-albion/
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: wba_1996 on August 28, 2018, 11:08:07 AM
That's the worst signing we've ever made, embarrassing.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: BoingFlyer on August 28, 2018, 11:09:21 AM
Rolling contract until January...
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: Atomic on August 28, 2018, 11:10:22 AM
This is the definition of panic buying surely? Mears was never any good at his best. Desperate to get a right back in and it shows.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: BigFrank20 on August 28, 2018, 11:10:28 AM
That's the worst signing we've ever made, embarrassing.
Based on what evidence?
TBH I've never heard of him
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: maccbaggie on August 28, 2018, 11:11:46 AM
We're in serious trouble.

Signing a 35 year-old right back who has been playing in the MLS for the past 3 years - and has actually been released by a poor MLS side! Who even in his prime, wasn't good enough to be a Premier League right-back. Wow.

Makes HRK look like an inspired signing.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: WBAinDEVON on August 28, 2018, 11:12:00 AM
Bottom of the barrel. obviously no money available. its going to be a long season
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: Mister AT on August 28, 2018, 11:15:08 AM
Surely would have made more sense to sign Cranie if we were struggling to bring in a right back and had to go down the free cheap option. ( or 100% would have made more sense to keep Kane Wilson here).

Welcome to the club Tyrone.


Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: wba_1996 on August 28, 2018, 11:15:57 AM
Based on what evidence?
TBH I've never heard of him

Based on the fact he's 35 and couldn't get into one of the worst teams in the MLS. Was deemed not good enough by Bolton 4 years ago.

I honestly wouldn't have been bothered if we didn't sign anyone this week, but this just confirms we've lost the plot.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: Oldbury24 on August 28, 2018, 11:16:30 AM
From a playing point of view, who knows - might be an improvement on Nyom who's head had gone and a rolling contract so little to lose.

However, from a club and supporter point of view this is a mistake.  Shrieks of a lack of ambition and suggests our scouts have not come up with any other decent options so Big D gets one of his OLD mates in. 

Oh dear!
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: liverbaggie on August 28, 2018, 11:17:31 AM
Who he?
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: CL3MO on August 28, 2018, 11:17:44 AM
Good luck to him and we'll all be cheering him on but come on, this is taking the p*** isn't it?

Released by Minnesota? I can't quite believe what I'm reading.

The amount in wages which the Club has saved and we sign this?

They're taking us all for absolute mugs.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: maccbaggie on August 28, 2018, 11:18:35 AM
From a playing point of view, who knows - might be an improvement on Nyom who's head had gone and a rolling contract so little to lose.

However, from a club and supporter point of view this is a mistake.  Shrieks of a lack of ambition and suggests our scouts have not come up with any other decent options so Big D gets one of his OLD mates in. 

Oh dear!
Agreed - this aspect of the signing is particularly concerning. If we're a serious club we should be well past any notion of signing players because our head coach or staff are mates with them. Doesn't reflect well on the scouting network and recruitment team.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: Atomic on August 28, 2018, 11:18:54 AM
Surely would have made more sense to sign Cranie if we were struggling to bring in a right back and had to go down the free cheap option. ( or 100% would have made more sense to keep Kane Wilson here).

Welcome to the club Tyrone.


Wilson can't even get a starting place at Walsall.

This is a shocking addition though. What the hell is going on at the club? If Darren Moore thinks it's a no brainer (as he has reportedly said) then I'm really starting to worry about his suitability to the role of head coach.

Shoot me if you like!
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: Foster#1 on August 28, 2018, 11:19:56 AM
He will be cover. We don't need a new right back in 352 formation.

Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: maccbaggie on August 28, 2018, 11:21:43 AM
Darren Moore - “The mere fact that he has been in the MLS for the past three years is testament to his condition because you have to be physically right to compete in that league."

This sounds like self-delusion.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: Atomic on August 28, 2018, 11:22:40 AM
Darren Moore - “The mere fact that he has been in the MLS for the past three years is testament to his condition because you have to be physically right to compete in that league."

This sounds like self-delusion.


Yep, that's complete and utter bull compared with the Championship.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: Pie on August 28, 2018, 11:23:39 AM
its so bad its almost funny
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: Black Country Pride on August 28, 2018, 11:25:42 AM
its so bad its almost funny

No 'almost' about it. Looked at objectively, it is bona fide comedy gold.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: Fritzl Palace on August 28, 2018, 11:26:00 AM
We are an absolute shambles. Fair play. I am embarrassed to be an Albion fan at the minute in every way, shape and form. Everything on the cheap.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: CL3MO on August 28, 2018, 11:28:30 AM
its so bad its almost funny

You don't know whether to laugh or cry do you?

What an absolute farce.  ::)
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: paulosull on August 28, 2018, 11:31:20 AM
Wow this is the bloke we have been tracking for the whole window :o I give up. If board won't put money in club nor will I.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: alex1 on August 28, 2018, 11:32:39 AM
Doesn't look good.
Moore's going for someone he has first hand experience of, but that must have been a good few years ago. And we know, from experience, that a footballer's performance levels can drop off fairly rapidly around 35. Nobody can kid me the demands of the MLS are anywhere near the top end of the Championship.
 
Hope this is only a very short term solution.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: Atomic on August 28, 2018, 11:33:34 AM
I can see Lai out chants coming before long. The club is plummeting fast.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: hardtobeat on August 28, 2018, 11:35:30 AM
A signing that begs several questions e.g is that really the best we can do , why a free agent now , what the hell is our scouting network  really  like , just how tight have the finances become , why oh why are we not utilising the loan market , why let youngsters out on loan only to be replaced by ageing has beens or in this case never wassers !! Big D is not helping himself with his platitudes about this kind of signing , a dose of the truth would go down much better than continually trying to kid the fans. Totally disgusted in truth by this signing makes absolutely no sense !!!
Anybody got Jenkins e mail address  >:( >:( ??
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: paulosull on August 28, 2018, 11:35:49 AM
Doesn't look good.
Moore's going for someone he has first hand experience of, but that must have been a good few years ago. And we know, from experience, that a footballer's performance levels can drop off fairly rapidly around 35. Nobody can kid me the demands of the MLS are anywhere near the top end of the Championship.
 
Hope this is only a very short term solution.
one game.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: seteefeet on August 28, 2018, 11:39:45 AM
I'm a big fan of Moore but even I'm struggling to find a positive with this signing. The only crumb of comfort would be the recent transition to 352 means he won't be a regular starter and is probably only here for back up. That being said, if he is to start tonight, does that mean we are reverting to 442?
Very strange and does smack of jobs for the boys, as i doubt we have scouted him very much, if at all. At least we'd seen Crainie play!
It also goes against the excuse given to G-mac about his age being a problem.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: Black Country Pride on August 28, 2018, 11:41:55 AM
You'd think the club might as well have signed up Boiler Man as our replacement for Nyom but evidently his wage demands were too high.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: overseas baggie on August 28, 2018, 11:43:47 AM
I'm a big fan of Moore but even I'm struggling to find a positive with this signing. The only crumb of comfort would be the recent transition to 352 means he won't be a regular starter and is probably only here for back up. That being said, if he is to start tonight, does that mean we are reverting to 442?
Very strange and does smack of jobs for the boys, as i doubt we have scouted him very much, if at all. At least we'd seen Crainie play!
It also goes against the excuse given to G-mac about his age being a problem.

There is a huge difference between 35 and 38/39 for a professional footballer
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: Atomic on August 28, 2018, 11:45:15 AM
There is a huge difference between 35 and 38/39 for a professional footballer


Not one who was third choice for Bolton in 2013 /14.

Utterly pathetic addition.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: BoingFlyer on August 28, 2018, 11:47:55 AM

Not one who was third choice for Bolton in 2013 /14.

Utterly pathetic addition.

I bet it came down to wages...
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: maccbaggie on August 28, 2018, 11:49:57 AM
This signing is a symptom of a bigger problem that has been going on at the club for years - short-termism.

Ultimately, any football club can only be as successful as its recruitment.

Continually signing older players without re-sale value or potential to develop (see Lambert, Fletcher, Barry, etc, and the re-signing of Brunt and Morrison) means in the long-term we lose out. We end up paying over-the-odds for overrated British players who are past their best. This then leads to having to find cheap, desperate, last-minute fixes - such as this. It's not a sustainable way to run a football club.

A successful transfer policy (which we had with Ashworth in the past) involves extensive European (and World) scouting, with the recruitment of young, hungry players on lower salaries with the potential to improve (and in the future, re-sell for a profit). This generally leads to a self-perpetuating cycle of improvement in the club's funds and on the football pitch.

We need to hire a director of football, expand our scouting network which we allowed Pulis to wreck, and get back to this recruitment policy as soon as possible if we ever want to become an established Premier League side again.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: seteefeet on August 28, 2018, 11:50:08 AM
There is a huge difference between 35 and 38/39 for a professional footballer
Not when one was already here and, by all accounts, proving his fitness through various monitoring techniques, and the other who could barely have been scouted, let alone assessed over any period of time.
It suggests to me that wages were the biggest factor and not age or fitness.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: gazberg on August 28, 2018, 11:53:20 AM
What's the difference in Orem money and 1st year parachute payments? With all these cheap signings it seems Lai is looking to save exactly that amount. Lost 10's of millions off the wage bill.

Darren Moore's comments are worrying. Point more and more to him being selected as a yes man.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: Atomic on August 28, 2018, 11:54:44 AM
What's the difference in Orem money and 1st year parachute payments? With all these cheap signings it seems Lai is looking to save exactly that amount. Lost 10's of millions off the wage bill.

Darren Moore's comments are worrying. Point more and more to him being selected as a yes man.


That's the way I'm seeing it too.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: don1thedon on August 28, 2018, 11:56:02 AM
Welcome to the club Tyrone!

That's about as positive as I can get about this signing though, anybody care to add something positive to this post?
Please.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: DaveWBA on August 28, 2018, 11:59:42 AM
I'm delighted.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: crocodile007 on August 28, 2018, 12:00:20 PM
It's laughable really.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: bradleysrocket on August 28, 2018, 12:01:35 PM
I’m struggling to remember a single signing that had this kind of negative reaction. I hope he proves us all wrong, he’s up against it though.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: RogerBadoo on August 28, 2018, 12:01:41 PM
I hope and wonder if having changed the formation and with Dawson coming back into the fold that DM has opted to look at bringing in a midfielder as his number.1 priority. Mears will hardly play if we stick with the current formation as we have Dawson to play RB as well as in the centre. The real meaning of this signing may only become apparent when we get to the end of the window. If the money saved goes on a physical, young and energetic midfielder then suddenly things will not seem so bad.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: seteefeet on August 28, 2018, 12:07:31 PM
I’m struggling to remember a single signing that had this kind of negative reaction. I hope he proves us all wrong, he’s up against it though.
Hal Robson-Kanu?
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: baggiebof on August 28, 2018, 12:07:58 PM
My feelings are different to the vast majority on this thread. I would be surprised if Mears actually plays many league games for us in the first instance.

I see this signing as us absolutely needing cover at rb/rwb and exhausting all other avenues. I'd rather us do a short-term deal like this than a longer term deal for someone better but ultimately not good enough. Yes, you'd hope that we'd have a better recruitment strategy in place but it's clear that we don't and therefore this move is ok with me.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: seteefeet on August 28, 2018, 12:11:08 PM
You know the funniest thing? When I read the headline, my first thought was that it must be his son or something.
I was expecting "West Brom sign Tyrone Mears jr, 17, son of much travelled journeyman Tyrone Mears"
 :)
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: Oldbury24 on August 28, 2018, 12:13:32 PM
My feelings are different to the vast majority on this thread. I would be surprised if Mears actually plays many league games for us in the first instance.

I see this signing as us absolutely needing cover at rb/rwb and exhausting all other avenues. I'd rather us do a short-term deal like this than a longer term deal for someone better but ultimately not good enough. Yes, you'd hope that we'd have a better recruitment strategy in place but it's clear that we don't and therefore this move is ok with me.

Welcome to the voice of reason, great post which has made my knees stop jerking.  And, if as also suggested it is so Darren Moore can divert our seemingly very meagre recourses to elsewhere (ie CM) then all good :)  We ill see come the 31st.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: The Joust on August 28, 2018, 12:14:30 PM
Based on what evidence?
TBH I've never heard of him

Are you serious? You can't remember him from his Derby days?
He's not terrible, there are worse players, but its a massive panic buy. May as well have re-signed Stephen Reid...
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: bradleysrocket on August 28, 2018, 12:15:15 PM
Hal Robson-Kanu?
I don’t even think that,  I’d even go as far as to suggest Hal would probably be preferred to Mears at right back.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: alex1 on August 28, 2018, 12:15:27 PM
I'm struggling for positives, but one is probably that Moore can vouch for his character. That he has a good work ethic and would blend in well in the dressing room. That being said, if he starts making blunders that cost us matches, the good character won't count for alot.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: The Joust on August 28, 2018, 12:16:00 PM
I've just thought, what about bloody Kane Wilson?? Surely a better option to recall him
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: TheJacko2000 on August 28, 2018, 12:28:13 PM
I've just thought, what about bloody Kane Wilson?? Surely a better option to recall him


Can't get a game at Walsall.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: koren on August 28, 2018, 12:28:21 PM
Spend whole summer to search for a right back, but sign a 35 years old MLS player at last.

Anyway I hope he does well here.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: Foster#1 on August 28, 2018, 12:36:02 PM
People was up in arms regarding Barnes and not giving our kids a chance & look how he's turned out.

Mears will simply provide cover till January...low cost wage. Not like ward was coming here..

This signing might keep funds for a midfielder
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: don1thedon on August 28, 2018, 12:42:26 PM
Lots of assumptions that this might be to free up money for a CM ... let's wait & see what they pull out of the bag!
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: KN22 on August 28, 2018, 12:43:03 PM
Welcome to the voice of reason, great post which has made my knees stop jerking.  And, if as also suggested it is so Darren Moore can divert our seemingly very meagre recourses to elsewhere (ie CM) then all good :)  We ill see come the 31st.


For goodness sake let's see what happens. The negativity is staggering. It is a short term deal and he has surely been signed as back up only?
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: hardtobeat on August 28, 2018, 12:44:37 PM

Can't get a game at Walsall.
So neither would Mears . Whats the point of signing him and leaving Wilson out on loan not to play ????
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: Baggies on August 28, 2018, 01:28:48 PM
Strange signing, even as a last resort back up. Why not just get Cranie in on a 1 year deal seeing as he played the whole pre season here? Mears has been a journeyman for his whope career and is now 35 having got too old to get a deal at another MLS clubs after a diminishing number of appearances year in year.

While I get that he will hardly be used, and that this reinforces the fact Moore and Jones see our main formation being a 3512 (meaning a specialist full back is less of a requirement), you still have to ask why Mears?

We would be better served bringing in a youngster from somewhere who we can slowly develop. More proof there is no scouting structure at the club at present, other than who Moore knows.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: Foster#1 on August 28, 2018, 01:30:38 PM
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/football/2008/aug/29/derbycounty.marseille

I like him already
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: WorcsWBA on August 28, 2018, 01:33:03 PM
I'm struggling to understand this signing. Going to play in the MLS is like being put out to grass - it's very rare for players to come back and start playing over here again afterwards.

People are saying that Mears has only been signed as a back-up, but a back-up to who exactly? We don't have a right-back (please don't mention Dawson, who needs and wants to play exclusively as a centre-back). We've tried a new formation with wing-backs for 2 games (we didn't line up like that in pre-season), but everyone expects us to carry on playing that way all season.

Finally, Darren has been telling us all season that Dawson has been left out because his fitness levels haven't been up to scratch (by inference because he missed the pre-season training camp) and yet Mears arrives as a free agent at the end of August and goes straight into the squad for tonight's match!
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: kie the baggie on August 28, 2018, 01:44:05 PM

For goodness sake let's see what happens. The negativity is staggering. It is a short term deal and he has surely been signed as back up only?
This is the sort of statement that I have associated with our fans in the last 10 transfer windows, I am STILL waiting to see what happens, since 2013!!!
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: VANDERLEI on August 28, 2018, 01:47:35 PM
Disgraceful signing. Complete waste of a squad place.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: Maresca Was A Baggie on August 28, 2018, 01:47:53 PM
I guess he's a gap filler until we can buy a permanent player in January. He's certainly not ideal, but he can act as cover for 4 months. Hopefully wont be needed. Seems that DM's hands are tied when it comes to spending money.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: baggie96 on August 28, 2018, 01:53:52 PM
 :-\Awful signing, should have just got cranie in
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: tex on August 28, 2018, 02:07:02 PM
Albion do conduct their business in secret. Never saw this one coming bet we surprised all his other suitors.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: Albion79 on August 28, 2018, 02:07:58 PM
As somebody said above, the reality is i doubt we will see Mears play much anyway.

I think Jones said last week that we are going ahead with the 3-5-2 but will switch if need be, as we are still only a few games into this 3-5-2 i imagine they will give it a go for quite a period of time to allow people to settle, get used to it, etc so i dont think we will be seeing much of any right back.

Mears will probably be on the bench, one of those who can cover anywhere, a chris baird type, maybe after having Crainie train and play preseason they decided he wasnt upto it and instead Big Dave has gone with somebody he knows and trusted.

His old club in the MLS also said they agreed a mutual termination and they believed he was signing for a championship club so not sure he was not good enough.

If we were signing him as a main first team player i would be concerned but its a short term deal, somebody Moore knows and trusts, its not exciting but its not the end of the world.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: iwastherein68 on August 28, 2018, 02:08:06 PM
Would have preferred not to have signed anyone
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: baggiejohn on August 28, 2018, 02:09:22 PM
I guess he's a gap filler until we can buy a permanent player in January. He's certainly not ideal, but he can act as cover for 4 months. Hopefully wont be needed. Seems that DM's hands are tied when it comes to spending money.

Tend to agree that he's a gap filler, & signed to buy a bit of time.

Any of the other options would have meant at least a 12 month commitment.

Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: paulosull on August 28, 2018, 02:24:24 PM
Short term rolling contract which will roll on if Jenkins has anything to do with it. Bloke should never have been brought back to club, what next Alan Irvine as DoF   :o
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: mulliganstired on August 28, 2018, 02:27:52 PM
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/football/2008/aug/29/derbycounty.marseille

I like him already

I'm not convinced.  Now, if he had pinched a taxi to get to the airport...
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: kirk on August 28, 2018, 02:37:38 PM
Joke signing, are we that skint already
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: don1thedon on August 28, 2018, 02:43:08 PM
Making me smile that Cranie is now being seen by some as a "better" option!  :o
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: Dexy on August 28, 2018, 03:03:43 PM
As ever I will judge him if he plays but unless this is to allow us to get other players in its desperate .
Other than wages there was no point letting Nyom go , all adds up to my theory a while back there is no cash flow in the club due to the big hitters not moving on other than Evans.
Shambles.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: Albionic on August 28, 2018, 03:08:36 PM
As ever I will judge him if he plays but unless this is to allow us to get other players in its desperate .
Other than wages there was no point letting Nyom go , all adds up to my theory a while back there is no cash flow in the club due to the big hitters not moving on other than Evans.
Shambles.

The club is hamstrung by the contracts people gave out. The folks who doled these STUPID contracts out have gone but the club is left with the aftermath,
Personally I'm still dubious about some of the decisions being made and the mixed messages coming out of the club, (reducing average age and using youth being the big one) but the present incumbents have an awful lot of crap to sweep up still, so need to be cut some slack while they get on with it, I guess if they have to make some strange looking moves to achieve the short to medium term objective, so be it.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: royhan on August 28, 2018, 03:23:57 PM
What the hell is happening to our club? I thought the intention was to reduce the average age - not raise it.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: OldburyWBA on August 28, 2018, 03:27:21 PM
Another case of replacing higher wages with lower wages, well done Mr Jenkins.

I'll give the bloke a chance but its not the sort of signing a recently relegated club should be making when they are trying to get back up.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: baggiebof on August 28, 2018, 03:27:54 PM

Other than wages there was no point letting Nyom go


All conjecture on my part however I feel like it may have been more of a personality decision more than anything else. The press report alluded to him moving back to play in Spain as if it was preferable for him and he did seem to have a clique with the other Spanish speakers Rondon and Yacob who have now obviously gone so he may have been happier away from us.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: vrabbit on August 28, 2018, 03:42:06 PM
this is embarrasing
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: kendo on August 28, 2018, 03:51:46 PM
 You could not make it up, could ya. This club is getting to be laughing stock of the league. It,s always the same every transfer window, big interesting names always mentioned ,then we get the crap. What on earth is going on at this once great club. whats worrying aswell is, as DM got anymore mates he wants to bring in. I am almost ready to jack it all in.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: paulosull on August 28, 2018, 04:05:00 PM
Money is going back to China to pay the idiot of an owner who would you believe it has no idea how to run a football club. Smacks of relegation in 80's and how long did it take to get over that. Seems every player was for sale but valuations were to high, think valuations will come down in next window and we will move on high earners.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: tommcneill on August 28, 2018, 04:06:35 PM
I really don’t know what to say about this so I’ll say nothing

Frankly I’m embarrassed
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: robbo_wba on August 28, 2018, 04:12:42 PM
Try and get your head around this...


Full list of West Bromwich Albion first team right backs:

- Tyrone Mears
......................
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: beechyboy90 on August 28, 2018, 04:17:30 PM
Dear god...
The only positive I guess is it's only a 6 month deal...
Phillips can't play every game he will burn out and if he got injured then we would be in a spot of bother
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: paulosull on August 28, 2018, 04:17:50 PM
Try and get your head around this...


Full list of West Bromwich Albion first team right backs:

- Tyrone Mears
......................
is Kieran Richardson sti free agent because I'd snap him up before this donkey Paul Stockport Williams all is forgiven you may not be the worst signing for the Albion
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: Albionic on August 28, 2018, 04:21:30 PM
Dear god...
The only positive I guess is it's only a 6 month deal...
Phillips can't play every game he will burn out and if he got injured then we would be in a spot of bother

That may be a good point, Phillips is prone to injuries / looking knackered, maybe this is a way of "resting" him, would have thought we have other options available for that though.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: beechyboy90 on August 28, 2018, 04:28:05 PM
That may be a good point, Phillips is prone to injuries / looking knackered, maybe this is a way of "resting" him, would have thought we have other options available for that though.

This sadly I think all comes down to us being happy with right back options than nyom found a deal and we couldn't replace him. Yes the loan window open but we can't loan every man and his dog.

He may play tonight but I would rather Albion have given Edwards 90 mins playing rwb
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: paulosull on August 28, 2018, 04:33:53 PM
This sadly I think all comes down to us being happy with right back options than nyom found a deal and we couldn't replace him. Yes the loan window open but we can't loan every man and his dog.

He may play tonight but I would rather Albion have given Edwards 90 mins playing rwb
says it all about this club under Jenkins tenure that we couldn't agree personal terms with Yeovil right back.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: AlbionFan on August 28, 2018, 04:47:35 PM
says it all about this club under Jenkins tenure that we couldn't agree personal terms with Yeovil right back.

This article below would suggest something different and its strange no one else has been in for him, there must be a good reason why not, wages, fitness or not good enough

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/west-brom-transfer-tom-james-14980857
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: paulosull on August 28, 2018, 04:57:33 PM
This article below would suggest something different and its strange no one else has been in for him, there must be a good reason why not, wages, fitness or not good enough

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/west-brom-transfer-tom-james-14980857
there are two opinions on why he didn't sign Albion's that he failed medical and Yeovils that he and club failed to agree terms. So it's down to who you  believe and I've been too long an Albion fan to have trust in our board.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: AlbionFan on August 28, 2018, 05:00:52 PM
there are two opinions on why he didn't sign Albion's that he failed medical and Yeovils that he and club failed to agree terms. So it's down to who you  believe and I've been too long an Albion fan to have trust in our board.

Not as long as me I'd wager, but yes of course do please give everybody else the benefit of the doubt and deny it to your own
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: gerry m on August 28, 2018, 05:38:14 PM
Oh dear. 35 years old, hopefully signed just for cover. Good luck mate.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: paulosull on August 28, 2018, 05:48:14 PM
Not as long as me I'd wager, but yes of course do please give everybody else the benefit of the doubt and deny it to your own
my own are the fans who work hard to get to games when he or she can afford it not over paid board members who constantly lie from what I can see.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: alwaysbilly on August 28, 2018, 05:49:07 PM
Initial reaction - pathetic.
Why not use Wilson?
So underwhelming it’s untrue
Hope I am wrong but Bolton fans can’t believe he is here
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: wbastrollers on August 28, 2018, 06:04:42 PM
this is embarrasing

No it’s the Albion mate!
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: iwastherein68 on August 28, 2018, 06:07:57 PM
Inexcusable Darren
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: paulosull on August 28, 2018, 06:09:17 PM
No it’s the Albion mate!
sums it all up really
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: Scooby Doo on August 28, 2018, 06:21:06 PM
I'm not about to write him off. He deserves the chance to show how good, or indeed how bad he is. What baffles my mind is that we have given Mears a contract until January but couldn't do it for the supremely fit and ever capable McAuley?! Naturally finance no doubt played a part in both deals.

What I unquestionably do not like about this deal is Big Dave signing a mate. Which is what his comments pretty much sound like.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: TheJacko2000 on August 28, 2018, 06:22:57 PM
I'm not about to write him off. He deserves the chance to show how good, or indeed how bad he is. What baffles my mind is that we have given Mears a contract until January but couldn't do it for the supremely fit and ever capable McAuley?! Naturally finance no doubt played a part in both deals.

What I unquestionably do not like about this deal is Big Dave signing a mate. Which is what his comments pretty much sound like.


That's the thing though mate. He doesn't deserve the chance. Not on this platform.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: Scooby Doo on August 28, 2018, 06:28:33 PM

That's the thing though mate. He doesn't deserve the chance. Not on this platform.

We've signed players in the past who weren't given a cat's chance of performing well and they have proved us wrong. On the flip side we've signed players who we've been incredibly expectant of and  have failed to deliver.

I'm not expectant but I am willing to wait and see.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: caravanc58 on August 28, 2018, 06:30:48 PM
starting to get really worried what direction the club's heading in. doesn't matter if it's a short/long term signing there's no way we should be signing players of this calibre. what does it say to our younger players?God forbid we get promoted because it's always the same problem... REBUiLD after REBUILD but we not are we, just look at the amount of quality players we would have to play in the top league. surely this is the season to have got younger players in for the long term future of the club not adding 35 year olds just to fill in occasionally.
makes me wonder who's doing the hiring and firing its that pathetic.
is Mears any better than Nyom? I can only think that Mears has been bought in on lower money and if that's the case the club's phooked.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: Albion79 on August 28, 2018, 06:42:14 PM
Not sure why there is comparisons with Gmac, one is a right back, the other is a centre half, one is 35 and one is 38.

Personally i would have Gmac over Hegazi and Bartley any time but him and Mesrs are different. Interesting though some of the fanbase went into meltdown when we signed the 31 year old Gmac in a free from ipswich and it didnt turn out too bad did it!

Mears may be rubbish but hopefully he will be allowed a chance to prove it either way rather than being written off before he has kicked a ball! I would be shocked if he makes more than 6 appearances between now and xmas (unless he is a world beater)

If as it seems we wont be using right backs reguarly anyway i am not sure why there is so much panic, why waste big wages if they rarely play anyway? if we go 442 and Mears is shocking at right back, Dawson can play there, we have plenty of centre halves.

Maybe we have a right back who we want who isnt available right now and wont be til january (ie - graham jones when we wanted an assistant manager, people were panicking but was worth the wait - hopefully!) so Mears is a stop gap til then, i imagine he wont be outstanding if he ever plays but he will do a job.

Its not a exciting signing, it may be a disaster, but it also could be a sensible one.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: Baggie79 on August 28, 2018, 07:37:28 PM
Wow calm down he wont play, just cover for injuries at best. Cover until Jan and then he will go and a replacement will be signed if needed. If he does play and is useless then feel free to moan but at least wait to judge.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: maccbaggie on August 28, 2018, 07:40:32 PM
Wow calm down he wont play, just cover for injuries at best. Cover until Jan and then he will go and a replacement will be signed if needed. If he does play and is useless then feel free to moan but at least wait to judge.
He's playing today.

And if it's certain he won't play, why sign him?
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: barnestormer on August 28, 2018, 07:42:20 PM
Wow calm down he wont play, just cover for injuries at best. Cover until Jan and then he will go and a replacement will be signed if needed. If he does play and is useless then feel free to moan but at least wait to judge.
I wonder who that mears is then in the starting 11 tonight?
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: Windmill Baggy on August 28, 2018, 07:46:04 PM
I wonder who that mears is then in the starting 11 tonight?

Getting game time along with many other second stringers.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: boinging_along on August 28, 2018, 07:50:30 PM
What's that noise?

Oh, it's the bottom of the barrel we are scraping.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: WBArgo on August 28, 2018, 07:52:07 PM
Just bizarre.

Whatever happened to Crainie? 4 years younger and a fairly solid Championship player it seems. Sadly this singing stinks of the short-term option.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: AlbionFan on August 28, 2018, 07:56:33 PM
Five pages and he hasn’t been here 24 hours yet. What’s the highest number of pages on a topic, as it could be in danger of being surpassed ASAP!  ;D
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: mulliganstired on August 28, 2018, 08:09:37 PM
I'll pass judgement after tonight, if he's a decent journeyman, that's ok as long he's on a small salary, we're going to need cover at times.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: Albionic on August 28, 2018, 09:50:47 PM
Rolling monthly contract, if he’s cack he could be gone in 4 weeks what’s the problem?
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: boinging_along on August 28, 2018, 09:55:40 PM
Rolling monthly contract, if he crack he could be gone in 4 weeks what’s the problem?

That we've not signed someone better?
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: Albionic on August 28, 2018, 10:06:58 PM
That we've not signed someone better?
Still could, snacks of an insurance signing
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: TheJacko2000 on August 28, 2018, 10:26:46 PM
Was worse than average against Mansfield. It doesn't bode well.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: paulosull on August 28, 2018, 11:29:35 PM
Was worse than average against Mansfield. It doesn't bode well.
not surprising been playing in an inferior league for years and wasn't much cop when he last played in chump
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: Wigmore on August 28, 2018, 11:51:51 PM
Nothing to worry about as he will be back-up at best. Poor tonight.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: tuamigos on August 29, 2018, 06:52:12 AM
why have we put a sticking plaster on a position that needs major surgery?
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: Baggies on August 29, 2018, 07:54:33 AM
It was only league 2 opposition but surely he wasn't THAT bad last night. I know a few have said he made mistakes first half, and having sat lower in the east stand it wasn't the best position in the ground to judge his performance with him being the other side of the pitch, but I watched him second hald and he didn't do much wrong and he was very fit.

Can't see how he can cope with the championship now having not been good enough 4 years ago, but feel the analysis from last night is maybe hyper critical.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: NathWBA on August 29, 2018, 08:04:58 AM
It was only league 2 opposition but surely he wasn't THAT bad last night. I know a few have said he made mistakes first half, and having sat lower in the east stand it wasn't the best position in the ground to judge his performance with him being the other side of the pitch, but I watched him second hald and he didn't do much wrong and he was very fit.

Can't see how he can cope with the championship now having not been good enough 4 years ago, but feel the analysis from last night is maybe hyper critical.
is have to agree, he was nowhere near as bad as some people are making out, assuming he’s only been with us a day a doesn’t know the team he didn’t do bad. First half he got up the pitch well and could have nicked a goal if I remember rightly. As a back up option we could do worse.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: skyclad99 on August 29, 2018, 08:33:19 AM
Talk about not giving the guy a chance!!!

Firstly, the short term contract should tell us everything. It may be that the true intended target has not come off in this window, we may never know. Secondly I am impressed that so many of you remember him that well and can pass critical judgement on him. Why don't we give him a few games before we condemn him, base the comments on evidence not assumptions.

Gareth Macauley is 38 and he would still get in our team according to some. Give him a chance guys, we know its not the long term solution and we all have our opinions about how the club is being run, but its not Mears fault is it..........

and before you hit the keyboard in anger, no I am not comparing Gareth to Tyrone, the point was about the age  :D 
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: AidantheBaggies on August 29, 2018, 08:44:31 AM
Like some others have said he will be ok as a back up but nothing more. I bet Jenkins is happy with the summer business.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: Mister AT on August 29, 2018, 08:55:09 AM
Talk about not giving the guy a chance!!!

Firstly, the short term contract should tell us everything. It may be that the true intended target has not come off in this window, we may never know. Secondly I am impressed that so many of you remember him that well and can pass critical judgement on him. Why don't we give him a few games before we condemn him, base the comments on evidence not assumptions.

Gareth Macauley is 38 and he would still get in our team according to some. Give him a chance guys, we know its not the long term solution and we all have our opinions about how the club is being run, but its not Mears fault is it..........

and before you hit the keyboard in anger, no I am not comparing Gareth to Tyrone, the point was about the age |:)

Spot on mate.

In all honesty, we probably wont see him play for us again (you would assume in a back four that Dawson and Tosin will be picked over him), if we are looking to move to a 3-5-2 formation then injury permitting, he isn't going to be taking Phillips place anytime soon, if Phillips does get injured I imagine we would shift to a 4-4-2 and use Daws or Tosin there anyway.

I have said it time and time again, some people just love to moan and pick faults. The guy has clearly been signed as a cheap back up as we aren't able to get out priority targets. If you look at the right backs we have been linked with, i.e James/Stacey then you can tell that DM wanted a younger fullback, so the fact that we have resorted to Mears, for me clearly shows we aren't able to get anyone in so we have just got some 'experienced' cover in until January.

Could that have been more effective to sign Crainie? Maybe so, but im guessing Mears is on a lower wage and more accustomed to the wingback role (going from comments on here and from people who were at the game) he seems to have a good engine on him.

Again though, I will be very surprised if he makes a league appearance for us.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: AlbionFan on August 29, 2018, 09:27:56 AM
Not that it really matters, but if the clause below, taken from EFL Regulations, is correct, then we must have signed Mears a day or so before last nights game

43.8 Subject to Regulations 43.2, 43.3 and 57, a Player will only be eligible to play in a match organised by The League if the appropriate forms for his registration or the transfer of his registration (including, for the avoidance of doubt, Temporary Loan Transfers) are received (including by facsimile) and found to be in order by The League by 12.00 noon on the day prior to the date of such match.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: Albionic on August 29, 2018, 09:43:12 AM
Not that it really matters, but if the clause below, taken from EFL Regulations, is correct, then we must have signed Mears a day or so before last nights game

43.8 Subject to Regulations 43.2, 43.3 and 57, a Player will only be eligible to play in a match organised by The League if the appropriate forms for his registration or the transfer of his registration (including, for the avoidance of doubt, Temporary Loan Transfers) are received (including by facsimile) and found to be in order by The League by 12.00 noon on the day prior to the date of such match.

Is Carabao cup covered by EFL (The league) rules / regs?
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: Mister AT on August 29, 2018, 09:49:25 AM
Not that it really matters, but if the clause below, taken from EFL Regulations, is correct, then we must have signed Mears a day or so before last nights game

43.8 Subject to Regulations 43.2, 43.3 and 57, a Player will only be eligible to play in a match organised by The League if the appropriate forms for his registration or the transfer of his registration (including, for the avoidance of doubt, Temporary Loan Transfers) are received (including by facsimile) and found to be in order by The League by 12.00 noon on the day prior to the date of such match.

It tends to be the way with signings that they have signed the day before on some instances before the club announce it.

I have known a few signings that have been made and the player has done a day or two of full training with the team before its even announced they have signed.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: royhan on August 29, 2018, 09:54:17 AM
It tends to be the way with signings that they have signed the day before on some instances before the club announce it.

I have known a few signings that have been made and the player has done a day or two of full training with the team before its even announced they have signed.

As he was thrown straight into the side he must surely have trained with the club for a few days beforehand. If not then Moore has questions to answer
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: tuamigos on August 29, 2018, 10:01:30 AM
He didn't do a lot wrong last night, what do you expect for nothing?
Acid test will be if he's a starter in any Championship games.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: AlbionFan on August 29, 2018, 10:06:25 AM
Is Carabao cup covered by EFL (The league) rules / regs?

Yes, it was a competition originally suggested by Sir Stanley Rous, a Chairman of the Football League, but was implemented by Alan Hardacre, the then Chairman. It's inaugural season was 1960/61. The Football League then, over the years, morphed into today's EFL as we know it, I believe.

Sorry for the history lesson, I'm guessing you knew that anyway, but it is for those who didn't
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: Hull Baggie on August 29, 2018, 11:15:53 AM
He didn't do a lot wrong last night, what do you expect for nothing?
Acid test will be if he's a starter in any Championship games.

Agree with this. Certainly looked a lot more comfortable that Nyom did. Looked to play the ball forward when possible rather than just sideways or backwards.

Splendid tackle on Dawson in the 2nd half too!
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: TheJacko2000 on August 29, 2018, 11:43:06 AM
Agree with this. Certainly looked a lot more comfortable that Nyom did. Looked to play the ball forward when possible rather than just sideways or backwards.

Splendid tackle on Dawson in the 2nd half too!


Thought he for rinsed by a league 2 winger 5 or 6 times and was nowhere near as good as Nyom.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: Hull Baggie on August 29, 2018, 11:44:52 AM

Thought he for rinsed by a league 2 winger 5 or 6 times and was nowhere near as good as Nyom.

That's okay you are entitled to your opinion.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: WorcsWBA on August 29, 2018, 01:30:50 PM
Rolling monthly contract, if he’s cack he could be gone in 4 weeks what’s the problem?
Because if he's gone in 4 weeks, we still won't have a right-back and then won't be able to do anything about it until January.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: SmethDan on August 29, 2018, 02:52:28 PM
is have to agree, he was nowhere near as bad as some people are making out, assuming he’s only been with us a day a doesn’t know the team he didn’t do bad. First half he got up the pitch well and could have nicked a goal if I remember rightly. As a back up option we could do worse.

Somebody who works at the training ground informed me last night that Mears has been training with us for the last three weeks.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: Albionic on August 29, 2018, 03:36:10 PM
Somebody who works at the training ground informed me last night that Mears has been training with us for the last three weeks.

Didn't ask who else is working with us did you? You can whisper, you are amongst friends!
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: BigFrank20 on August 29, 2018, 04:01:17 PM
I thought he did OK last night certainly nothing totally disastrous on his watch 
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: SmethDan on August 29, 2018, 04:06:20 PM
Didn't ask who else is working with us did you? You can whisper, you are amongst friends!

Taps nose  ;) .
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: AlbionFan on August 29, 2018, 04:36:19 PM
Just a memory, but in 1975 we signed a veteran right back and, whilst there were no forums like this or social media, most people reactions where I sat at the time, was just to roll their eyes, shake their heads in disbelief and moan, yes moaning is not a new phenomena and is not the domain of today's younger fans.

This player went on to be one of the most astute signings and one of the best right backs the club ever signed.

Not drawing any comparisons of course, just saying!
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: SmethDan on August 29, 2018, 04:55:25 PM
Paddy Mulligan was a seasoned international aged 30-31 when he signed for us.

His career total of fifty caps for the Republic of Ireland far outweigh Tyrone's cap for Jamaica.

I'm not going to draw any comparison with Tyrone Mears (35) either, just saying  ;) .

Welcome to the Albion Tyrone, and all of the very best  8) .
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: letmereadposts on August 29, 2018, 05:27:03 PM
Somebody who works at the training ground informed me last night that Mears has been training with us for the last three weeks.

He mentioned the jet lag in the latest PR masterclass on the club website.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: paulosull on August 30, 2018, 12:37:41 AM
He mentioned the jet lag in the latest PR masterclass on the club website.
well the Lear jet from training ground to Hawthorns might of taken its toll.  :P
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: Aixelsyd on August 30, 2018, 03:04:04 AM
Somebody who works at the training ground informed me last night that Mears has been training with us for the last three weeks.

strange that.... considering he actually played (on as a sub) for Minnesota against LA Galaxy, less than three weeks ago and was only released by them officially on the 27th of August......  ::)

 
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: SmethDan on August 30, 2018, 08:44:30 AM
He mentioned the jet lag in the latest PR masterclass on the club website.

Also mentioned "I’ve felt better each day I’ve been here" after about 1 minute 14 seconds.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: SmethDan on August 30, 2018, 08:52:40 AM
strange that.... considering he actually played (on as a sub) for Minnesota against LA Galaxy, less than three weeks ago and was only released by them officially on the 27th of August......  ::)

Very true.

His last actual game for them was v FC Dallas on 19/08/2018 when he played 90 minutes as a centre half.

https://www.transfermarkt.com/spielbericht/index/spielbericht/3083797

As for the game with LA Galaxy he had three minutes as a sub on 12/08/2018.

https://www.transfermarkt.com/spielbericht/index/spielbericht/3083767

Just passing on apparently duff info' while speed reading the forum with no time to check for myself (at the time).

Speaking of which, things to do.

Tara a bit.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: WorcsWBA on August 30, 2018, 12:55:49 PM
strange that.... considering he actually played (on as a sub) for Minnesota against LA Galaxy, less than three weeks ago and was only released by them officially on the 27th of August......  ::)
No wonder he's been jet-lagged then!  ;)
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: Foster#1 on October 04, 2018, 12:30:01 AM
Not been on the losing side yet.

Has come in and has done a job.

Fair play.

Needs letting go in January though.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: tuamigos on October 04, 2018, 01:56:23 PM
Not been on the losing side yet.

Has come in and has done a job.

Fair play.

Needs letting go in January though.

Crystal Palace  8)
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: DaveWBA on October 04, 2018, 02:17:06 PM
It worries me that our academy isn't capable of producing someone who at the very least is at the same level as Mears.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: royhan on October 04, 2018, 02:49:39 PM
It worries me that our academy isn't capable of producing someone who at the very least is at the same level as Mears.

I agree entirely. We seem incapable of developing players with a high sale value such as other teams like Southampton have been able to. Or perhaps more to the point Moore is not prepared to give our home grown players the opportunity to show what they are capable of in the first team, apart from occasional cameo appearances. Moore disappoints me. I expected more from him.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: Adder on October 04, 2018, 04:06:20 PM
In fairness Mears did have one very good effort last night just before they got their second I think. Think it was him anyway doing a Matt Phillips style cut in from the right.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: gazberg on October 06, 2018, 07:21:50 PM
Dreadful again today. Should have been hooked a lot earlier. He must be aware hes past it too, feel a bit sorry for him.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: Atomic on October 06, 2018, 07:23:56 PM
Dreadful again today. Should have been hooked a lot earlier. He just be aware hes past it too, feel a bit sorry for him.


He hasn't the legs or the quality to play the wing back role. I think he knows that himself. Can't hammer the bloke he's a stop gap doing the best he can but we clearly need an upgrade.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: Andio on October 06, 2018, 07:25:23 PM
Dreadful again today. Should have been hooked a lot earlier. He just be aware hes past it too, feel a bit sorry for him.

I agree, I actually feel sorry for him in a way.

Nobody has mentioned his assist for Gayles first goal though  ;)

That said, he shouldn't be playing.

Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: gazberg on October 06, 2018, 07:33:58 PM
Thats why i feel sorry for him, hes clearly not capable and any footballer can feel it within themselves on the pitch. Not knocking him but should never have been signed.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: KN22 on October 06, 2018, 07:37:50 PM
Thats why i feel sorry for him, hes clearly not capable and any footballer can feel it within themselves on the pitch. Not knocking him but should never have been signed.

Totally agree. When you feel sorry for a player, as many of us do, it tells you a lot. Totally out of his depth. Just cannot do the wing back role. The young lad Edwards, an out and out winger, was a big upgrade when he came on.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: BalisPen on October 06, 2018, 07:50:49 PM
Mears will be in the wilderness again soon when he gets his Xmas present from Jenkins, his p45.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: Mo on October 06, 2018, 08:15:09 PM
There was a point in the first half where he couldn’t run back . The role being asked of him is too much regardless of anything else . He played a back pass to Johnstone in the first half that was desperately poor from someone with ‘ experience ‘
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: gazberg on October 06, 2018, 08:53:21 PM
Totally agree. When you feel sorry for a player, as many of us do, it tells you a lot. Totally out of his depth. Just cannot do the wing back role. The young lad Edwards, an out and out winger, was a big upgrade when he came on.

Definitely. Would much rather see him play than Mears. End his monthly contract this month and be done with it. Embarassing for all parties.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: johnny Cash on October 06, 2018, 09:37:09 PM
I don’t rate Mears, he is pretty useless.

However booing him is a disgrace. He hasn’t had a Stella career so I doubt he’s sitting on millions. He’s unlikely to be getting a media career and he will be a long time retired.

Can’t blame the guy for accepting a contract, and I certainly wouldn’t accuse him of not putting the effort in.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: jamesh_91 on October 06, 2018, 09:47:17 PM
We've all been there and played a game of football out of our depth. He is doing his best. I think once the game was won DM wanted to see how both Edwards and Tosin would play there. I hope Phillips is fit again soon.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: baggiesboots on October 06, 2018, 09:56:26 PM
The  basic remit of a stand in player was carried out today, yes it wasn't pretty but he did his best. Surely any player shouldn't be castigated for that. When Edwards came on and we started playing forward instead mainly of sideward and backward, we looked a much better prospect. Good delivery for our 1st though, and a pivotal point in the game so gets a thumbs up for that, let's not knock our own folks.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: BalisPen on October 06, 2018, 09:56:32 PM
I didn't hear anybody boo mears today and don't condone any of our own ever being booed as that is the oppositions job.

Although I was very tempted to boo the detestable pardew.

Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: WBArgo on October 06, 2018, 10:18:46 PM
I think against Sheffield Wednesday he was awful, but having said that in the other games (Milwall, Preston and Reading) he has been ok - getting 2 assists in those games too.

The problem is that he is naturally quite defensive, especially at his age where you won't see him bombing forward much. Because of his nature, I don't think he really suits our current style, whereas Phillips does; because he is much more aggressive in attack. In other words, I think he'd be better suited in a Pulis-style team where there's less intent for him to go forward.

I actually think all things considered he's been ok - for a free agent from the MLS at 35 he's not done badly bar the Wednesday game. I imagine he will stay until Sako is fit who will then replace him and he will probably go in January.
But overall I think he's done a job given the circumstances, anyway it would be moronic to boo him - we've had worse than him over the years.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: OldburyWBA on October 06, 2018, 10:20:57 PM
I think we all know that if not for the injury to Phillips he would be on the bench at best, what I don't understand about his signing is that if we knew the type of formation we were hoping to play then surely it would be known he wouldn't fit in, no. t the players fault, maybe 5 years ago he would have been capable of playing as wing back but not at the moment
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: BalisPen on October 06, 2018, 10:27:25 PM
His a short term signing so we have to wait for a proper replacement in due course hopefully, he played against us alongside Darren Moore in our play off defeat and I don't recall his performance so I don't know what he was like in his prime.

The alternative is Howkins who has been very poor when I have seen him.

We just need to be close to the top 2 by Jan and then bring in proper reinforcements for hopefully the final push.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: boinging_along on October 06, 2018, 10:45:44 PM
I'm going to guess DM thought we needed extra bodies and  at that point you're looking at out of contract players so pickings would be slim to the least. Obviously with Phillips fit he wouldn't be in the starting line-up.

You'd hope, seeing the way we set up, that come Jan we will strengthen I'm the obvious areas.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: BalisPen on October 06, 2018, 10:56:59 PM
I'm going to guess DM thought we needed extra bodies and  at that point you're looking at out of contract players so pickings would be slim to the least. Obviously with Phillips fit he wouldn't be in the starting line-up.

You'd hope, seeing the way we set up, that come Jan we will strengthen I'm the obvious areas.

That's exactly what it was because he wanted Taverner from rangers.

He's a short term fix. It's just sad our academy hadn't produced a young hopeful he could have negated the need for mears
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: Aixelsyd on October 06, 2018, 11:44:07 PM
funnily enough, I heard a whisper, a few weeks back, that at the end of his contract in the new year, he will hang up his boots and join the coaching team....  no idea in what role.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: Nocky on October 07, 2018, 12:39:37 AM
Feel a bit sorry for him. Miles out of his depth at wing back. Would probably do a job at RB but WB is probably one of the hardest positons to play. Made even harder when you’re 35, of limited ability going forward and have been playing a poor standard of football for the last few years. Hopefully the last we see of him in this position.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: beechyboy90 on October 07, 2018, 01:16:59 AM
Nobody questioning his effort he's just out of his depth sadly. Would rather us try Edwards out there whilst Phillips isn't fit.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: mulliganstired on October 07, 2018, 02:18:25 PM
It's an old cliche, but a top manager has to have the nerve to change a winning side, not wait for the fail.  I don't begrude Mears his contract as cover; I haven't seen him live, just on streams, so I'll trust those who've seen the big picture that he isn't really up for the WB role.  Thank you for flying over from the USA, now get ready for a few splinters off the bench till Xmas.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: seteefeet on October 07, 2018, 04:02:24 PM
funnily enough, I heard a whisper, a few weeks back, that at the end of his contract in the new year, he will hang up his boots and join the coaching team....  no idea in what role.
Perhaps he's destined for great things as a coach and that's why we got him in. Now wouldn't that be forward thinking.
Edwards should still start next game though
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: BalisPen on October 07, 2018, 04:57:01 PM
Next game is going to be tough as they got battered yesterday, but the positives for us were their main man Powell went off injured and dingle Gibson got sent off.

Having said that I rate their manager ex dingle cook, so it will be an interesting match up.

I just hope mp is back from injury.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: BigFrank20 on October 07, 2018, 05:12:35 PM
Don't want to make an overt attack on his ability so probably the kindest thing I can say about his display yesterday was that he looked to be a long way out of his depth 
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: FallOutBoy on October 08, 2018, 12:55:07 PM
He shouldn't play for us, or anybody else at this level again. Nice cross for the goal, but he proved he should have retired. Reminded me of when Gary Neville came up against us and Dorrans had him for breakfast. He retired the next day, because he knew he couldn't do it anymore.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: Wigmore on October 08, 2018, 02:23:44 PM
Looks like we have settled on our new whipping boy.
Still, it will help Brunt if Mears takes on the unwanted role for the remainder of his career, which will not extend too far into 2019 imo.
Am I alone in thinking that the oft-repeated 'out of his depth', jibe has been overdone?
Although TM is unquestionably one of the weaker members of the squad, I struggle to remember repeated, crucial mistakes that have cost us goals (or points). No doubt someone with a less eroded memory will be able to supply a definitive list. And if posters want to highlight his erratic passing, I would suggest there are other (more popular) players who are equally culpable.
For a guy who has been written off as incapable of playing the RWB role, he did a fair impression of a WB when he supplied a perfect cross for DG's first.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: geoff on October 09, 2018, 05:19:47 PM
Thought i saw a few green shoots in his performance this week  :-\
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: NathWBA on October 09, 2018, 05:31:16 PM
Looks like we have settled on our new whipping boy.
Still, it will help Brunt if Mears takes on the unwanted role for the remainder of his career, which will not extend too far into 2019 imo.
Am I alone in thinking that the oft-repeated 'out of his depth', jibe has been overdone?
Although TM is unquestionably one of the weaker members of the squad, I struggle to remember repeated, crucial mistakes that have cost us goals (or points). No doubt someone with a less eroded memory will be able to supply a definitive list. And if posters want to highlight his erratic passing, I would suggest there are other (more popular) players who are equally culpable.
For a guy who has been written off as incapable of playing the RWB role, he did a fair impression of a WB when he supplied a perfect cross for DG's first.
just because we haven’t been punished because of his lack of pace, positional sense, lack of ability, poor passing, doesn’t mean he’s not out of his depth or that people aren’t entitled to their opinion that he is in fact out of his depth. As for his cross, in my opinion it was total fluke that got lucky it landed to Gayle, there’s no chance he intentionally put that much height and dip on a cross to the back post.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: Hull Baggie on October 10, 2018, 06:55:25 AM
just because we haven’t been punished because of his lack of pace, positional sense, lack of ability, poor passing, doesn’t mean he’s not out of his depth or that people aren’t entitled to their opinion that he is in fact out of his depth. As for his cross, in my opinion it was total fluke that got lucky it landed to Gayle, there’s no chance he intentionally put that much height and dip on a cross to the back post.

Think you're doing him a disservice , he's put in similar crosses in games recently including against Preston that led to the own goal.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: NathWBA on October 10, 2018, 07:36:40 AM
Think you're doing him a disservice , he's put in similar crosses in games recently including against Preston that led to the own goal.
maybe, but for me his body shape suggested he wanted to whip it in, he somehow stumbled backwards a bit and the cross ended up looping.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: SmethDan on October 10, 2018, 09:46:55 AM
Think you're doing him a disservice , he's put in similar crosses in games recently including against Preston that led to the own goal.

I don't even need to check to know it was Dawson who played the ball in for the Preston own goal. As for the Gayle's 'assist' I was behind the goal in the Smeth'. While I'm grateful his ball in led to our goal, from it's initial trajectory if that's where he was aiming for and Gayle was his intended target then I'm Guochuan Lai  ;D  ;) .
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: bradleysrocket on October 10, 2018, 10:30:19 AM
So from what I’m reading anything bad Mears done will be picked up and ran with as a means to further condemn him. Anything good at all will be put down to a mistake/miskick/lucky break. Nice to know from the outset I suppose that the fella is on  a hiding to nothing.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: DaveWBA on October 10, 2018, 10:40:14 AM
There's some rubbish posted on here.

Is the bloke good enough for a side at the top end of the Championship? Absolutely not. Is it his fault he was offered a deal, perhaps even with half an eye on taking a coaching role in the new year? No again. To suggest he isn't trying to didn't mean the two crosses that have lead to goals is downright disrespectful.

Would I like to see Edwards given a go in the team in Phillips is still injured after the international break? Yes, I think a lot of us would.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: tuamigos on October 10, 2018, 10:49:48 AM
Get used to it chaps.
He's in the side, he's wearing our shirt.
Have a go at him after the game if he deserves it and praise him if he deserves it.
To openly abuse or mock the bloke as he leaves the pitch is downright disrespectful.
We know he isn't good enough to dislodge Philips, he probably knows that himself, he's doing a filling in job.
The more I look at some of our fans the more I despair at times
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: SmethDan on October 10, 2018, 11:32:42 AM
So from what I’m reading anything bad Mears done will be picked up and ran with as a means to further condemn him. Anything good at all will be put down to a mistake/miskick/lucky break. Nice to know from the outset I suppose that the fella is on  a hiding to nothing.

Not from me. I gave credit for a ball in where it was due (Dawson) and told the truth from my angle regarding one ball in from Mears. It's my opinion based on what I observed, while not a ringing endorsement of his talents I'm not putting him down either. The fella's not on a hiding to nothing as far as I'm concerned. He's an Albion player and as such I want him to do the best he can. Conversely I'm not going to give him credit for something he hasn't done. As stated, I'm grateful his clearly mishit cross ended up in the back of the net.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: SmethDan on October 10, 2018, 11:34:18 AM
Get used to it chaps.
He's in the side, he's wearing our shirt.
Have a go at him after the game if he deserves it and praise him if he deserves it.
To openly abuse or mock the bloke as he leaves the pitch is downright disrespectful.
We know he isn't good enough to dislodge Philips, he probably knows that himself, he's doing a filling in job.
The more I look at some of our fans the more I despair at times


Couldn't agree more chap.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: SmethDan on October 10, 2018, 11:44:06 AM
There's some rubbish posted on here.

Is the bloke good enough for a side at the top end of the Championship? Absolutely not. Is it his fault he was offered a deal, perhaps even with half an eye on taking a coaching role in the new year? No again. To suggest he isn't trying to didn't mean the two crosses that have lead to goals is downright disrespectful.

Would I like to see Edwards given a go in the team in Phillips is still injured after the international break? Yes, I think a lot of us would.

No it isn't disrespectful, it's observations based on what I saw. The two goals being discussed were the Preston OG and Gayle at the far post.

The OG came via a cross in from Dawson (nothing to do with Mears). For the second I am absolutely convinced it was a mishit cross with a happy consequence. I'm not being a tosser about anything.

As for Edwards he was a breath of fresh air. Whether he'd be up to a 90 minute display at right wing back when he's better suited (in my opinion) to either cutting in from left midfield or playing behind a striker is open to conjecture.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: Hull Baggie on October 10, 2018, 02:07:53 PM
I don't even need to check to know it was Dawson who played the ball in for the Preston own goal. As for the Gayle's 'assist' I was behind the goal in the Smeth'. While I'm grateful his ball in led to our goal, from it's initial trajectory if that's where he was aiming for and Gayle was his intended target then I'm Guochuan Lai  ;D  ;) .

yes you are correct, I'm sure he has assisted another goal apart from the Gayle one though. (I've just checked and he hasn't assisted anything else either!).

I still think the way he wraps his foot around the ball he definitely was aiming for Gayle though.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: OllieTheBaggie on October 10, 2018, 04:39:24 PM
The booing of this bloke was ridiculous. No wonder the players didn't give much of a show of appreciation at the end of the match, i wouldn't want to play for us either if i was one bad 45 minutes away from being treated like that.

I swear some of our fans just come to the games to whine, boo, moan and sit in silence when the fans are trying to get songs going. Ironically, in my experience its always the same boo boys that are on the feet singing TLMS with open arms when we knock one in, some really fickle people about.

If you want to come and support the Albion, then come and be part of the family of course. However, if you're just there just to blow off steam from the week as soon as one of our players puts a foot wrong and to cheer when we score, then i'm sure everyone connected with the club would rather you stayed at home.

Rant over.

Edit: Also forgot to mention that the Darren and the club implement a 'We Not Me' approach which has been lauded by the fans. That works both ways. Everyone, including the fans, have their part to play if we're to do well this season and we affect what's happening on the pitch. It can't be 'us vs them so lets boo' when we're losing and 'We did it, lets celebrate!' when we're winning.

Okay, now rant over  ;D
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: Nathan on October 10, 2018, 04:50:41 PM
The booing of this bloke was ridiculous. No wonder the players didn't give much of a show of appreciation at the end of the match, i wouldn't want to play for us either if i was one bad 45 minutes away from being treated like that.

I swear some of our fans just come to the games to whine, boo, moan and sit in silence when the fans are trying to get songs. Ironically, in my experience its always the same people who are on the feet singing TLMS with open arms when we knock one in, some really fickle people about.

If you want to come and support the Albion, then come and be part of the family of course. However, if you're just there just to blow off steam from the week as soon as one of our players puts a foot wrong and to cheer when we score, then i'm sure everyone connected with the club would rather you stayed at home.

Rant over

A couple of points. Firstly, I'm still not convinced that there was any booing of Mears at all on Saturday. I was in the Smethwick and heard nothing at all in the way of boos or insults directed towards him. All I did hear regarding Mears was a fairly loud cheer when he was substituted, which if some people on here find insulting then God f****ng help them if they watched football anywhere during the 70's, 80's and 90's. I saw the cheer as a "thank God Moore has taken the bloke off" rather than an insult aimed at Mears.
Secondly, if a bloke wants to let off a bit of steam at the match on a Saturday afternoon after working hard all week and looking after and providing for his family and going through the general daily grind then that too is fine by me. Everyone pays their money and is entitled to, within reason, react however they see fit. Booing isn't a crime, it's a way of a paying supporter showing his or her feelings without resorting to fighting, chucking things or even hurling insults. It's a pretty harmless way of expressing dissatisfaction which is fair enough.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: OllieTheBaggie on October 10, 2018, 05:06:50 PM
A couple of points. Firstly, I'm still not convinced that there was any booing of Mears at all on Saturday. I was in the Smethwick and heard nothing at all in the way of boos or insults directed towards him. All I did hear regarding Mears was a fairly loud cheer when he was substituted, which if some people on here find insulting then God f****ng help them if they watched football anywhere during the 70's, 80's and 90's. I saw the cheer as a "thank God Moore has taken the bloke off" rather than an insult aimed at Mears.
Secondly, if a bloke wants to let off a bit of steam at the match on a Saturday afternoon after working hard all week and looking after and providing for his family and going through the general daily grind then that too is fine by me. Everyone pays their money and is entitled to, within reason, react however they see fit. Booing isn't a crime, it's a way of a paying supporter showing his or her feelings without resorting to fighting, chucking things or even hurling insults. It's a pretty harmless way of expressing dissatisfaction which is fair enough.

To your first point: There was plenty of booing going on.
To your second point: Yes, they're entitled to boo and shout insults all game long. As long as they know that their behaviour is only going to be detrimental to the club, the performance on the pitch and the reputation of the fans. You might call that being a supporter, but i don't, there's nothing supportive about it. Maybe if we were sat in 20th place and the players on the pitch clearly didn't give a toss, but at halftime when we've been on an amazing run of consecutive wins? Just embarassing.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: kie the baggie on October 10, 2018, 05:14:37 PM
A couple of points. Firstly, I'm still not convinced that there was any booing of Mears at all on Saturday. I was in the Smethwick and heard nothing at all in the way of boos or insults directed towards him. All I did hear regarding Mears was a fairly loud cheer when he was substituted, which if some people on here find insulting then God f****ng help them if they watched football anywhere during the 70's, 80's and 90's. I saw the cheer as a "thank God Moore has taken the bloke off" rather than an insult aimed at Mears.
Secondly, if a bloke wants to let off a bit of steam at the match on a Saturday afternoon after working hard all week and looking after and providing for his family and going through the general daily grind then that too is fine by me. Everyone pays their money and is entitled to, within reason, react however they see fit. Booing isn't a crime, it's a way of a paying supporter showing his or her feelings without resorting to fighting, chucking things or even hurling insults. It's a pretty harmless way of expressing dissatisfaction which is fair enough.
Find most of this totally pathetic really, I thought home games you get behind your home team get behind your players and BOO the opposition and make it uncomfortable for them not us??? Really thought it was that simple, well must be me
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: Nathan on October 10, 2018, 05:19:27 PM
To your first point: There was plenty of booing going on.
To your second point: Yes, they're entitled to boo and shout insults all game long. As long as they know that their behaviour is only going to be detrimental to the club, the performance on the pitch and the reputation of the fans. You might call that being a supporter, but i don't, there's nothing supportive about it. Maybe if we were sat in 20th place and the players on the pitch clearly didn't give a toss, but at halftime when we've been on an amazing run of consecutive wins? Just embarassing.

The first half on Saturday was utter s**t, as have many performances been this season. How on earth are supporters supposed to show any displeasure if booing is now frowned upon? It's not like they are rioting, chucking things or hurling insults is it. Christ almighty. You yourself have just mentioned the booing was at halftime (which backs my point that there was no direct booing of Mears). In the 35 years I've been watching the Albion, the half time whistle has ALWAYS led to a chorus of boos, grumbles or cheers depending on the first half performance, it's just the way it is and always will be.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: Atomic on October 10, 2018, 07:35:30 PM
Find most of this totally pathetic really, I thought home games you get behind your home team get behind your players and BOO the opposition and make it uncomfortable for them not us??? Really thought it was that simple, well must be me


That's a load of rubbish. The players were booed off at half time last week and we won the second half 4-0. How did that booing harm us or help the opposition?

It is the biggest myth in football that crowds alter the outcome of a game. Footballers are hardened professionals not ten year olds.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: stoxman on October 10, 2018, 07:59:25 PM
The booing of Mears (or more to the point the ironic cheering of his substitution) was poor. If the bloke has misled us, failed to show any effort, declared false loyalty, nicked a taxi, run away after a car crash etc then perhaps that’s ok but Mears appears to be doing the best given his limited ability and age.   I personally didn’t and wouldn’t show such disrespect to someone who was so clearly doing the best within their abilities.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: Atomic on October 10, 2018, 08:19:11 PM
The booing of Mears (or more to the point the ironic cheering of his substitution) was poor. If the bloke has misled us, failed to show any effort, declared false loyalty, nicked a taxi, run away after a car crash etc then perhaps that’s ok but Mears appears to be doing the best given his limited ability and age.   I personally didn’t and wouldn’t show such disrespect to someone who was so clearly doing the best within their abilities.


I agree with that. No reason at all to boo Mears he was doing his best and we all knew what we'd got when he signed.

Booing the team off at half time or at full time I can understand it's a way of showing dissatisfaction. It's not something I do personally but I don't criticise anyone that does do it. It certainly does not negatively affect the outcome out the game.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: Nathan on October 10, 2018, 08:31:57 PM
The booing of Mears (or more to the point the ironic cheering of his substitution) was poor. If the bloke has misled us, failed to show any effort, declared false loyalty, nicked a taxi, run away after a car crash etc then perhaps that’s ok but Mears appears to be doing the best given his limited ability and age.   I personally didn’t and wouldn’t show such disrespect to someone who was so clearly doing the best within their abilities.

That's all it was, a cheer, ironic or otherwise. It wasn't booing, there was no booing of Mears! I wish I had a quid for every time I've heard a substitution booed or cheered, ironically, sarcastically or otherwise. It happens all the time, I really don't know why there is being such a fuss made about this one. I didn't see the cheer for the substitution as being disrespectful, more so a huge relief that Moore had finally called a substitution correctly as the whole crowd could see Mears was struggling.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: costa blanca baggie on October 10, 2018, 09:34:48 PM
That's all it was, a cheer, ironic or otherwise. It wasn't booing, there was no booing of Mears! I wish I had a quid for every time I've heard a substitution booed or cheered, ironically, sarcastically or otherwise. It happens all the time, I really don't know why there is being such a fuss made about this one. I didn't see the cheer for the substitution as being disrespectful, more so a huge relief that Moore had finally called a substitution correctly as the whole crowd could see Mears was struggling.
Maybe the cheer was for the youngster that was replacing him.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: Nathan on October 10, 2018, 09:47:03 PM
Maybe the cheer was for the youngster that was replacing him.

Absolutely, that could quite feasibly account for the cheer for the substitution too. Just shows how lots of folk on here, without thinking, are so quick to be critical of their fellow Albion fans and accuse them of booing, being disrespectful, abusive and so on towards Mears, not to mention being called embarrassing, when it was almost certainly not like that at all. I'd be the first to admit if there was any abuse directed towards Mears on Saturday but there wasn't. The only booing (which was slight) was at half time and not directed at any individual.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: NathWBA on October 10, 2018, 11:55:17 PM
There's some rubbish posted on here.

Is the bloke good enough for a side at the top end of the Championship? Absolutely not. Is it his fault he was offered a deal, perhaps even with half an eye on taking a coaching role in the new year? No again. To suggest he isn't trying to didn't mean the two crosses that have lead to goals is downright disrespectful.

Would I like to see Edwards given a go in the team in Phillips is still injured after the international break? Yes, I think a lot of us would.
it’s not disrespectful to have a view on something, what is disrespectful is to totally discredit someone’s view because you don’t agree with it. As for the cross, he clearly did mean to put a cross in but he visibly stumbled backwards on crossing it, I don’t believe for a second he intended that cross to end up where it did, it’s was fortunate that it did. Willian scored with a mishit cross against Liverpool last year, would it be disrespectful to say he didn’t mean to score from it?
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: Wigmore on October 11, 2018, 12:27:05 AM
232945456248
it’s not disrespectful to have a view on something, what is disrespectful is to totally discredit someone’s view because you don’t agree with it. As for the cross, he clearly did mean to put a cross in but he visibly stumbled backwards on crossing it, I don’t believe for a second he intended that cross to end up where it did, it’s was fortunate that it did. Willian scored with a mishit cross against Liverpool last year, would it be disrespectful to say he didn’t mean to score from it?
Did he indeed?
Look again. The highlights are still up on Sky.
https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/teams/west-bromwich-albion/11519447/west-brom-4-1-reading

Then come back and tell me how he stumbled.
A rolled pass from Livermore reaches TM, who takes one touch. He wraps his foot around the ball, crosses it and stands to watch the resulting action.
As I said in my last post, the fans who need to have a scapegoat have found their new target.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: bradleysrocket on October 11, 2018, 12:33:30 AM
yes you are correct, I'm sure he has assisted another goal apart from the Gayle one though. (I've just checked and he hasn't assisted anything else either!).

I still think the way he wraps his foot around the ball he definitely was aiming for Gayle though.
He largely assisted gibbs goal against Millwall. Not sure it goes down as an assist but it clearly came as a result of his cross into the box.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: SmethDan on October 11, 2018, 05:37:40 AM
He largely assisted gibbs goal against Millwall. Not sure it goes down as an assist but it clearly came as a result of his cross into the box.

Mears crossed it into the box, the ball then found it's way to Gibbs via an ineffective headed clearance from Jake Cooper.

From memory he did put a couple of decent balls into the box that day.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: NathWBA on October 11, 2018, 07:41:50 AM
232945456248Did he indeed?
Look again. The highlights are still up on Sky.
https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/teams/west-bromwich-albion/11519447/west-brom-4-1-reading

Then come back and tell me how he stumbled.
A rolled pass from Livermore reaches TM, who takes one touch. He wraps his foot around the ball, crosses it and stands to watch the resulting action.
As I said in my last post, the fans who need to have a scapegoat have found their new target.
stumbled a few steps back to watch to cross.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: seteefeet on October 11, 2018, 11:52:33 AM
232945456248Did he indeed?
Look again. The highlights are still up on Sky.
https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/teams/west-bromwich-albion/11519447/west-brom-4-1-reading

Then come back and tell me how he stumbled.
A rolled pass from Livermore reaches TM, who takes one touch. He wraps his foot around the ball, crosses it and stands to watch the resulting action.
As I said in my last post, the fans who need to have a scapegoat have found their new target.
Begs the question though, why does anyone need a scapegoat? We are unbeaten in 7 games.
I'm not a fan of Mears by any means, and think we need a better back up when Phillips is out, but a scapegoat is someone who gets blamed when things go wrong. Since he came in we haven't lost and I can't remember him directly costing us a goal so, while he isn't the greatest by any means, there's nothing to blame him for.
I agree it was a decent cross by the way.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: Big Al on October 11, 2018, 01:26:42 PM
Begs the question though, why does anyone need a scapegoat? We are unbeaten in 7 games.
I'm not a fan of Mears by any means, and think we need a better back up when Phillips is out, but a scapegoat is someone who gets blamed when things go wrong. Since he came in we haven't lost and I can't remember him directly costing us a goal so, while he isn't the greatest by any means, there's nothing to blame him for.
I agree it was a decent cross by the way.

Agree completely, once we lose a 2 in a row the vitriol on here may be horrendous.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: seteefeet on October 11, 2018, 01:43:40 PM
Agree completely, once we lose a 2 in a row the vitriol on here may be horrendous.
I think that will also be Darren's biggest test mate. The sign of a good manager is how they deal with a couple of bad results and stop it turning into a bad run. Steve Clark was great for a good while but once the results took a turn, he had no answer. Pulis on the other hand was a master of halting a slide (apart from the last 10 games of a season, when he was already safe, whereby he actually appeared to encourage it), but even he came unstuck in the end and, once he couldn't stop the slide, he had to go, thank god.
Personally, i think DM has enough in his locker to deal with adversity and get us through any inevitable sticky patch,but only time will tell.
You are right though, if Mears is in the side at the time, he will likely take a lot of the flack.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: OllieTheBaggie on October 11, 2018, 02:59:29 PM
If a plumber doesn't plumb, he's not really a plumber.
If a builder doesn't build, he's not really a builder.
If a supporter doesn't support...
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: Nathan on October 11, 2018, 03:04:30 PM
If a plumber doesn't plumb, he's not really a plumber.
If a builder doesn't build, he's not really a builder.
If a supporter doesn't support...

A plumber isn't spending his hard earned money to plumb and a builder isn't spending his hard earned money to build. They are getting paid as opposed to supporters who are doing the paying, often spending money they can ill afford. Fans who pay their money to travel the length and breadth of the country following the Albion have an absolute right to express an opinion.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: frazzle on October 11, 2018, 06:41:07 PM
This is an appalling thread. Pathetic.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: boinging_along on October 11, 2018, 08:06:18 PM
If you support Albion then you want what's best for the club.  By booing players does that really help them? Is Tyrone suddenly going to gain a few yards of pace? Or is it more likely to knock his confidence and make him more nervous.

Booing players simply doesn't help.

I also don't understand how someone could boo Mears but then say they're happy with Moore. He's the one picking him, if you have anger at the team selection it should be with the person doing the selecting. Not the guy trying to do his job.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: zippyandbungle on October 11, 2018, 08:13:04 PM
If you support Albion then you want what's best for the club.  By booing players does that really help them? Is Tyrone suddenly going to gain a few yards of pace? Or is it more likely to knock his confidence and make him more nervous.

Booing players simply doesn't help.

I also don't understand how someone could boo Mears but then say they're happy with Moore. He's the one picking him, if you have anger at the team selection it should be with the person doing the selecting. Not the guy trying to do his job.
I'm with you
We shouldn't boo him, he didn't pick himself, however the opinions that he isn't good enough are fair
Some of the positioning last week from him was absolutely disgusting ..
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: OllieTheBaggie on October 11, 2018, 08:28:36 PM
A plumber isn't spending his hard earned money to plumb and a builder isn't spending his hard earned money to build. They are getting paid as opposed to supporters who are doing the paying, often spending money they can ill afford. Fans who pay their money to travel the length and breadth of the country following the Albion have an absolute right to express an opinion.

Yes, customers do have the right to express an opinion, as long as in this instance they know that doing so is likely to be completely counterproductive and unhelpful if they want the team to win. But why would a customer care, they've paid their money and therefore they're entitled to a good performance and win (apparently). Supporters, on the other hand, will appreciate that there are shades of grey, it's not just 'Yay we're winning' and 'Boo, they're losing'. They appreciate they have the right to boo and moan, but realise doing so won't make the team more likely to win, and instead spurring the team on is more likely to result in a win.

Say you're at work and you've delivered consistently good performances to a customer for a long period, but one day there's a minor mistake which is still fixable. Suddenly, instead of being the jolly, cheery bloke he usually is, he starts sarcastically applauding your co-worker as he leaves the office he's 'useless ay he', and moaning/complaining to the owner because the companies performance hasn't been good enough.

Would that spur you on to deliver a really good outcome with no hard feelings just because he's a paying customer? Or would you bite your lip, think he's a bit of a ****, but just do the job just because that's what you're paid to do and you have no choice?

Would you prefer that he/she understood that there was an error on this occasion, but appreciates that you're going to try your best to fix it? Or would you prefer he bitches, moans and makes fun of your colleagues in order to get the response he wants.

Which approach would make you want to deliver a positive result for him, and do your best for him next time he comes in?
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: Wigmore on October 12, 2018, 10:48:28 AM
stumbled a few steps back to watch to cross.
As my original offering was regarded as too confrontational I will rephrase my truncated reply.
If this post is meant to support your original contention (although the wording is unclear), imo you are sadly mistaken.
Happily, anybody can check out the actual footage and form their own opinion.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: NathWBA on October 12, 2018, 11:34:14 AM
As my original offering was regarded as too confrontational I will rephrase my truncated reply.
If this post is meant to support your original contention (although the wording is unclear), imo you are sadly mistaken.
Happily, anybody can check out the actual footage and form their own opinion.

Correct, which it appears we both have, but it also appears some have trouble accepting that everyone will have their own views and opinions.

I won’t boo the man, and while he’s in the team he’ll get my support but I won’t be praising him for something that in my view he doesn’t warrant praising for. It also doesn’t escape the fact that he isn’t good enough to play wing back as he doesn’t possess the legs he once had to get back quick enough. Just because we haven’t been punished yet doesn’t mean his performances haven’t been below par.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: SmethDan on October 12, 2018, 12:45:00 PM
Speed read the last few posts so apologies if I've got the wrong impression.

Could someone tell me when Tyrone Mears was booed please?

Only asking as I appear to have missed this heinous event.

If he hasn't been booed, then please refrain from suggesting that he has.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: NathWBA on October 12, 2018, 02:11:19 PM
Speed read the last few posts so apologies if I've got the wrong impression.

Could someone tell me when Tyrone Mears was booed please?

Only asking as I appear to have missed this heinous event.

If he hasn't been booed, then please refrain from suggesting that he has.
I think the sarcastic cheering has been classed as booed, both don’t do anything to boost a players confidence and I’d sooner ignore a player than doing either but if a paying customer feels the need to do it to voice their opinion then who is anyone to tell them not to.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: OllieTheBaggie on October 12, 2018, 04:00:58 PM
I think the sarcastic cheering has been classed as booed, both don’t do anything to boost a players confidence and I’d sooner ignore a player than doing either but if a paying customer feels the need to do it to voice their opinion then who is anyone to tell them not to.

I just think it's a bit sad that vocal minority ends up reflecting poorly on the majority.

Here's another example of how it could harm the club. People want players like Gayle and Barnes to stay and the club to buy them. When players (who will be in demand and have a host of clubs to choose from) hear a chorus of boos after slightly poor 45 minutes, after they've been working their b*lls off to maintain a winning streak for a fair few games beforehand, it doesn't exactly endear the fanbase to them as a great group who'll back him when he's having a tough time. As I said before, any player in the team knows they're a bad game or two away from being treated like that. At the end of the season it might be a linear choice between two premier league clubs, and knowing that our fanbase will be on their back after a bad game or two might affect their decision.  Having good/bad fans can be a factor in why a player/manager chooses a club, not as big a factor as other things perhaps, but a factor nonetheless. This is an extreme example, but it's not unheard of to hear players saying 'I chose to come here because they have great fans'.

Booing the team/sarcastically cheering players departures/moaning every time someone puts a pass wrong literally doesn't help anyone. It doesn't help on the day, it doesn't help the clubs image, it doesn't help West Bromwich Albion in any way, shape or form. It's self-defeating.

The reason it bothers me so much is because I just think it's sad that the 5% of vocal fans make the other 95% of our fans look bad, just because 'I've paid my money so i've got the right to boo'. If you think of yourself as a customer i can see why you'd think it's a good idea, if you think of yourself as a fan, i really can't wrap my head round it.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: Nathan on October 12, 2018, 06:19:45 PM
Speed read the last few posts so apologies if I've got the wrong impression.

Could someone tell me when Tyrone Mears was booed please?

Only asking as I appear to have missed this heinous event.

If he hasn't been booed, then please refrain from suggesting that he has.

Thank God it's not just me who didn't hear any booing directed towards Mears Dan, I was beginning to think I was losing the plot and/or my memory! Like I said in my initial post on this thread regarding this issue, I heard nothing of the sort.

If some people think the cheering for the substitution equated to booing, I really am beginning to think some folks are desperately trying to look for and find offence wherever and whenever possible when it just doesn't exist. Like I've said before, in my opinion, the cheer was for Moore (in the eyes of the fans) finally calling a substitution correctly and if there was any sarcasm meant by the cheer it was for that!  :D
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: NathWBA on October 13, 2018, 03:06:29 PM
I just think it's a bit sad that vocal minority ends up reflecting poorly on the majority.

Here's another example of how it could harm the club. People want players like Gayle and Barnes to stay and the club to buy them. When players (who will be in demand and have a host of clubs to choose from) hear a chorus of boos after slightly poor 45 minutes, after they've been working their b*lls off to maintain a winning streak for a fair few games beforehand, it doesn't exactly endear the fanbase to them as a great group who'll back him when he's having a tough time. As I said before, any player in the team knows they're a bad game or two away from being treated like that. At the end of the season it might be a linear choice between two premier league clubs, and knowing that our fanbase will be on their back after a bad game or two might affect their decision.  Having good/bad fans can be a factor in why a player/manager chooses a club, not as big a factor as other things perhaps, but a factor nonetheless. This is an extreme example, but it's not unheard of to hear players saying 'I chose to come here because they have great fans'.

Booing the team/sarcastically cheering players departures/moaning every time someone puts a pass wrong literally doesn't help anyone. It doesn't help on the day, it doesn't help the clubs image, it doesn't help West Bromwich Albion in any way, shape or form. It's self-defeating.

The reason it bothers me so much is because I just think it's sad that the 5% of vocal fans make the other 95% of our fans look bad, just because 'I've paid my money so i've got the right to boo'. If you think of yourself as a customer i can see why you'd think it's a good idea, if you think of yourself as a fan, i really can't wrap my head round it.
there’s is not a club in the world that doesn’t have fans who sarcastically cheer or boo at some point, these guys are not only paid to play football they are paid to deal with the criticism too, it’s part of the job role these days, if they aren’t able to deal with that aspect then they are most definitely in the wrong profession. I don’t agree with booing your own player but many vent their frustrations that way, it’s part of the game unfortunately
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: WBArgo on October 13, 2018, 05:23:36 PM
Speed read the last few posts so apologies if I've got the wrong impression.

Could someone tell me when Tyrone Mears was booed please?

Only asking as I appear to have missed this heinous event.

If he hasn't been booed, then please refrain from suggesting that he has.
I was just about to ask the question, he was never boo'd and I don't think the cheers were sarcastic either, he'd literally just got an assist 5 minutes earlier.

I think this thread is a bit bizarre. Everyone knows he's quite poor, but no one is booing him, neither is anyone calling him over-rated or decent. He is what he is, a stop-gap until January when Sako is fit, until then he is employed to do a job.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: Atomic on October 13, 2018, 05:28:06 PM
Just to set the record straight(ish) Mears wasn't booed as such but he received a good bit of stick from behind me in the East Stand mostly for his inability to get forward at the right times. Upon his substitution there were many cheers and it wasn't for whoever was coming on it was for Mears being substituted.

Discuss as you will.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: Chipperfan on October 13, 2018, 10:02:15 PM
Just to set the record straight(ish) Mears wasn't booed as such but he received a good bit of stick from behind me in the East Stand mostly for his inability to get forward at the right times. Upon his substitution there were many cheers and it wasn't for whoever was coming on it was for Mears being substituted.

Discuss as you will.

From my vantage point in the East Stand this was exactly my perspective. There are a number of Albion supporters, a small but significant minority, who are happy to jeer and cheer sarcastically at their latest whipping boy.

It sickens me.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: Mo on October 14, 2018, 10:03:40 AM
Just to set the record straight(ish) Mears wasn't booed as such but he received a good bit of stick from behind me in the East Stand mostly for his inability to get forward at the right times. Upon his substitution there were many cheers and it wasn't for whoever was coming on it was for Mears being substituted.

Discuss as you will.

I agree I sit in the east stand and there was one point where he should have made himself available for a pass but he simply hadn’t got the physical capability to do it . The crowd got very agitated and let Mears know what they thought. As I said to my friends sat by me it’s not his fault the coaching staff and board of directors determine he is the best replacement they could have got for the wing back role.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: NathWBA on October 14, 2018, 01:12:54 PM
I agree I sit in the east stand and there was one point where he should have made himself available for a pass but he simply hadn’t got the physical capability to do it . The crowd got very agitated and let Mears know what they thought. As I said to my friends sat by me it’s not his fault the coaching staff and board of directors determine he is the best replacement they could have got for the wing back role.
Playing devils advocate. Surely he should know his own physical ability, if he was more than happy to sign the contract knowing he wasn’t capable enough himself to perform in a competitive environment then he should be big enough to deal with the critics. He wouldn’t be the first player to play on for payday knowing they were no longer capable.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: johnny Cash on October 14, 2018, 01:29:54 PM
Playing devils advocate. Surely he should know his own physical ability, if he was more than happy to sign the contract knowing he wasn’t capable enough himself to perform in a competitive environment then he should be big enough to deal with the critics. He wouldn’t be the first player to play on for payday knowing they were no longer capable.

This assumes he misrepresented himself in some way, talked himself in to a contract worth more than his value, or the club didn’t test him approproately. 

For all you know, he is on £1000 pw and was clear about exactly what he was capable off. We have no way of knowing the club weren’t happy with what he does offer even if it’s limited. His minutes and recent praise suggest the latter is more likely.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: NathWBA on October 14, 2018, 01:59:14 PM
This assumes he misrepresented himself in some way, talked himself in to a contract worth more than his value, or the club didn’t test him approproately. 

For all you know, he is on £1000 pw and was clear about exactly what he was capable off. We have no way of knowing the club weren’t happy with what he does offer even if it’s limited. His minutes and recent praise suggest the latter is more likely.
and the original post assumes he’s not to blame at all, players know their own bodies better than anyone else
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: OllieTheBaggie on October 24, 2018, 09:09:18 PM
Did you guys doubting the abuse hear the 'Wan*er' chants coming from the Brummie tonight as Mears was just bought on or was there another mysterious lapse in hearing?
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: OldburyWBA on October 24, 2018, 10:45:17 PM
Did you guys doubting the abuse hear the 'Wan*er' chants coming from the Brummie tonight as Mears was just bought on or was there another mysterious lapse in hearing?

I sit in the Brummie and heard no shouting at all, few boos but not any abuse near me
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: Dexy on October 24, 2018, 10:45:52 PM
Did you guys doubting the abuse hear the 'Wan*er' chants coming from the Brummie tonight as Mears was just bought on or was there another mysterious lapse in hearing?
Derby fans
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: paulosull on October 24, 2018, 10:47:36 PM
Not his fault that Moore keeps picking him, same as the legend arse HRK.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: NathWBA on October 24, 2018, 10:56:21 PM
Did you guys doubting the abuse hear the 'Wan*er' chants coming from the Brummie tonight as Mears was just bought on or was there another mysterious lapse in hearing?
was definitely coming from derby fans at the opposite end of the ground, didn’t leave them on good terms at all.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: OllieTheBaggie on October 24, 2018, 11:03:04 PM
was definitely coming from derby fans at the opposite end of the ground, didn’t leave them on good terms at all.


Nonsense, i was sat in the Brummie and it was our customers behind me, 100%.

On an additional note, i felt he had an alright game tonight, nowhere near as bad as last week.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: SmethDan on October 25, 2018, 01:00:27 AM
I'm in the Smeth' and heard Derby shouting it.

I can assure you I heard absolutely fk all from the Brummie all night though.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: NathWBA on October 25, 2018, 07:54:08 AM


Nonsense, i was sat in the Brummie and it was our customers behind me, 100%.

On an additional note, i felt he had an alright game tonight, nowhere near as bad as last week.
i it in the brummie and heard nothing but a few groans from our fans, the derby fans were calling him a w*nker after the way he forced his way out of them years ago. I think tarring the entire brummie with the same because a couple fans behind you joined in Derby’s chant is totally wrong.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: skyclad99 on October 25, 2018, 08:11:04 AM
I'm in the Smeth' and heard Derby shouting it.

I can assure you I heard absolutely fk all from the Brummie all night though.

Derby gave him loads of abuse, including a quick rendition of' There's only one greedy bar steward'......
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: Mister AT on October 25, 2018, 08:41:59 AM
To be fair to the lad I don't think he did 'too bad' when he came on.

Tried to get forward, could tell he felt uncomfortable on the ball and you almost got a sense of nervousness to lose the ball.

Cant really blame the guy to be honest, afterall its DM who continues to pick him.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: Albion79 on October 25, 2018, 08:50:25 AM
I dont think he is anywhere near as bad as some people make out.

If he was some french or spanish defender who we knew nothing about he would be judged on his performances for us alone and he wouldnt get half the stick, as he is Tyrone Mears the decision was already made.

Anything good he has done (including a couple of assists) is classed as lucky, yet anything bad and its he is rubbish! He is a backup right back, coming in to play out of position in a high energy role of right wing back in one of the worst defences we have had in modern times, our defence could make Dani Alves look poor.

Last night he did ok, setup a couple of chances too, personally as we switched to a 4, i would of put him in at right back (his natural position) moved Brunt to left back (which has become his position over the last few years until six months ago) and took off any one of Tosin, Dawson or Bartley, and you could take your pick because they were all shocking, we would of had a settled defence with players playing in their normal roles.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: bradleysrocket on October 25, 2018, 11:18:49 AM
was definitely coming from derby fans at the opposite end of the ground, didn’t leave them on good terms at all.
Both sets of fans. I was in the brummie and commented to the fella next to me just how shameful some of our supporters are.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: SmethDan on October 25, 2018, 01:00:09 PM
Thought he did well when he came on.

Didn't hide, showed for the ball and went forward when he could.

Also offered good cover for Field late on in the game when caught by a ball over the top.

Decent performance on the whole on an otherwise disastrous evening.

Fair play Tyrone.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: OllieTheBaggie on October 25, 2018, 01:41:43 PM
Both sets of fans. I was in the brummie and commented to the fella next to me just how shameful some of our supporters are.

Thank you, i'm not losing it after all then! Our customers in the Brummie were 100% chanting it towards him as he came on, whether they started it or joined in with Derby fans is irrelevant, it's fully embarrassing. There are some really pathetic fans about. As I said in my last comment, i think he went on to have a decent game, he was certainly no worse than some of the other players out there who weren't being chanted at.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: Foster#1 on November 29, 2018, 11:11:31 AM
Nearly into his last month of his contract

If we have any sense we'd let him go but what are the odds we keep him till the summer as cover
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: TheJacko2000 on November 29, 2018, 12:05:36 PM
Nearly into his last month of his contract

If we have any sense we'd let him go but what are the odds we keep him till the summer as cover


He's the only right hack in the squad. Cannot be released unless we make a signing in that position.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: FallOutBoy on November 29, 2018, 12:52:33 PM

He's the only right hack in the squad. Cannot be released unless we make a signing in that position.

That's what we said about Nyom, before waving him goodbye on his Spanish jollies.

Hack is the right word though  :P
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: Hunnington Baggie on December 03, 2018, 02:09:26 PM
That's what we said about Nyom, before waving him goodbye on his Spanish jollies.

Hack is the right word though  :P
when we loaned Nyon out we didn’t need a RB with the way we played, now we do.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears signs official
Post by: OldburyWBA on December 03, 2018, 02:14:05 PM
when we loaned Nyon out we didn’t need a RB with the way we played, now we do.

Should always have a natural right back ready to step in regardless of how we are playing at that particular time, pure common sense.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears
Post by: Mister AT on December 03, 2018, 02:44:27 PM
Should the club get rid of him (end of the month) I would be confident enough with Tosin and Dawson as cover until we brought someone in the transfer window.

Think he will be kept on though personally.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears
Post by: iwastherein68 on December 03, 2018, 02:59:12 PM
Might need him against Villa if Dawson gets booked tonight - heaven forbid
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears
Post by: AlbionFan on December 03, 2018, 03:14:56 PM
Might need him against Villa if Dawson gets booked tonight - heaven forbid

I thought the Yellow Card Amnesty came into force over the weekend, meaning the number of cards are rest. I could be wrong
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears
Post by: Hunnington Baggie on December 03, 2018, 03:40:15 PM
I thought the Yellow Card Amnesty came into force over the weekend, meaning the number of cards are rest. I could be wrong
according to “essential information for players” by the FA, 5 card suspension is cut off after the 19th game. As this is the 20th for us, then yes the players are safe until the 10th yellow card before the 38th fixture.

http://www.thefa.com/-/media/files/thefaportal/governance-docs/player-essentials/2018-19/essential-information-for-players-2018-19---english.ashx
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears
Post by: beechyboy90 on December 03, 2018, 04:09:09 PM
Bar an absolute injury/suspension crisis I don't think we will see mears in a Albion shirt again. Hopefully a decent right back option is lined up ready for January 1st
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears
Post by: gazberg on December 03, 2018, 06:46:25 PM
That would be the sensible thing to have happened but let's not count all our Albion chickens yet.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears
Post by: AlbionFan on December 31, 2018, 02:23:15 PM
Matt Wilson's Twitter account:

#wba have extended Tyrone Mears's contract by a month. New deal runs until end of January
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears
Post by: Atomic on December 31, 2018, 02:30:07 PM
Matt Wilson's Twitter account:

#wba have extended Tyrone Mears's contract by a month. New deal runs until end of January


That news is a bit "meh" isn't it? Unless we have a cronic injury crisis or we play a hugely depleted team in the cup it's unlikely we'll see him in an Albion shirt again.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears
Post by: SmethDan on December 31, 2018, 02:40:19 PM
Happy New Year Tyrone.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears
Post by: wba_1996 on December 31, 2018, 02:46:01 PM
Reckon that means Moore wants another defender in addition to Holgate, which is what the Daily Mail were reporting yesterday. Mears stays as emergency cover through January whilst we try to land the other target.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears
Post by: Oldbury24 on December 31, 2018, 02:55:05 PM
Reckon that means Moore wants another defender in addition to Holgate, which is what the Daily Mail were reporting yesterday. Mears stays as emergency cover through January whilst we try to land the other target.

Very much an emergency option on the bench.   If his wages are as low as reported (low for a footballer, not a real person 😑 of course) then no biggy.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears
Post by: Albionic on December 31, 2018, 02:56:02 PM
Very much an emergency option on the bench.   If his wages are as low as reported (low for a footballer, not a real person 😑 of course) then no biggy.

No brainer (the extension, not Tyrone)  before some bright spark .....
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears
Post by: FallOutBoy on December 31, 2018, 08:14:04 PM
My initial reaction was 'WTF!!!' until I thought about it for a moment - it does probably mean they're going to try for another right back, or see how Holgate fares in the role.

I can still see him being here until the end of the season though.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears
Post by: leeiswba on January 26, 2019, 06:39:18 PM
Is this bloke really as bad as is made out?
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears
Post by: TheJacko2000 on January 26, 2019, 06:41:12 PM
Is this bloke really as bad as is made out?


No major clangers today but yes he's very poor.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears
Post by: Bilston Dan on January 26, 2019, 06:45:16 PM
I thought he had a solid game today to be honest. Probably because he was playing in his proper position.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on January 27, 2019, 09:07:51 AM
He defended well today to his credit

My only problem is that he does not possess the forward ability that Townsend and Gibbs offer - it was noticeable that when our midfield was narrow and Harper was looking for the option wide, Mears was often hanging back on half way

That might be to save us being caught on the counter but if you’re overloading the middle and playing narrow then you ideally need some width from somewhere
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears
Post by: Atomic on January 27, 2019, 09:14:11 AM
He defended well today to his credit

My only problem is that he does not possess the forward ability that Townsend and Gibbs offer - it was noticeable that when our midfield was narrow and Harper was looking for the option wide, Mears was often hanging back on half way

That might be to save us being caught on the counter but if you’re overloading the middle and playing narrow then you ideally need some width from somewhere


He doesn't have the legs to do that mate. To be fair to him he's a good, honest pro who came in as sort of an emergency because we didn't have a right back. We are wrong to expect too much of him.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears
Post by: leeiswba on January 27, 2019, 09:20:28 AM
Thats what I mean really, not saying he should be starting or anything but I think he can actually do a job if needed to.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears
Post by: mulliganstired on January 27, 2019, 11:54:50 AM
If we don't get any more defenders in, and especially if Toisin goes, I think he will be perfectly OK bench/backup.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears
Post by: baggie_liam on January 27, 2019, 12:35:23 PM
He defended well today to his credit

My only problem is that he does not possess the forward ability that Townsend and Gibbs offer - it was noticeable that when our midfield was narrow and Harper was looking for the option wide, Mears was often hanging back on half way

That might be to save us being caught on the counter but if you’re overloading the middle and playing narrow then you ideally need some width from somewhere


Tbf to him he, is probably 15 years older than both of those two players
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears
Post by: paulosull on January 27, 2019, 05:04:31 PM
Have to give bloke credit for his performance yesterday, seemed solid in a back four.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on January 28, 2019, 01:07:10 PM

Tbf to him he, is probably 15 years older than both of those two players

I don't disagree - it highlights the failings of our recruitment and management team not to address this issue in the summer, rather than relying on a mate of Moore's to carry us through.

To have started the season with no recognised right back was insane.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears
Post by: Wigmore on January 28, 2019, 03:53:47 PM
I don't disagree - it highlights the failings of our recruitment and management team not to address this issue in the summer, rather than relying on a mate of Moore's to carry us through.

To have started the season with no recognised right back was insane.
Your criticism would be wholly justified if the club had made no effort to find a long term RB.
But, unless you can prove that the club sat on their hands, and did not try to recruit, I think you should moderate your language.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on January 29, 2019, 06:23:24 PM
Your criticism would be wholly justified if the club had made no effort to find a long term RB.
But, unless you can prove that the club sat on their hands, and did not try to recruit, I think you should moderate your language.

Thank you - but I will not be moderating my language.

I never accused the club of sitting on their hands - I accused them of failing to address the issue - which is correct

And to start the season with no recognised right back was insane.

You leave the moderating advice to me..
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears
Post by: Albionic on January 29, 2019, 07:07:47 PM


Meanwhile back on topic, I have to think that Mears has been a “success “ in as much that we had no alternative and he (and Tosin) have plugged the hole for 6 months without the club having to find a transfer fee or a long term contract
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears
Post by: Wigmore on January 29, 2019, 08:08:30 PM
Thank you - but I will not be moderating my language.

I never accused the club of sitting on their hands - I accused them of failing to address the issue - which is correct

And to start the season with no recognised right back was insane.

You leave the moderating advice to me..
If you wish to insult the club (that you purport to support) with inane slurs such as 'insane', carry on. Rather diminishes the thrust of your argument imo.
And, I repeat, just how do you know what efforts were made to recruit, and where the failures lie??
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears
Post by: OldburyWBA on January 29, 2019, 08:37:32 PM
If you wish to insult the club (that you purport to support) with inane slurs such as 'insane', carry on. Rather diminishes the thrust of your argument imo.
And, I repeat, just how do you know what efforts were made to recruit, and where the failures lie??

Can we cut the "purport to support" type comments please, similar to those earlier about "true" fans or "happy clapper", "doom monger" etc, this is not the forum for comments such as those, keep them to Facebook and other social media outlets
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears
Post by: Wigmore on January 30, 2019, 12:23:55 AM
Can we cut the "purport to support" type comments please, similar to those earlier about "true" fans or "happy clapper", "doom monger" etc, this is not the forum for comments such as those, keep them to Facebook and other social media outlets
But we can call our club 'insane'??
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears
Post by: caravanc58 on January 30, 2019, 01:50:05 AM
But we can call our club 'insane'??
in fairness he didn't say the club was insane, he said it was insane to start the season without a RB. which it was.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears
Post by: Fritzl Palace on January 30, 2019, 08:35:32 AM
Overreaction/10.

I see no issue whatsoever in what Liam wrote, it was utterly absurd to let Nyom go and fail to replace him, instead bringing in one of Darren's pals who is clearly no longer up to it.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears
Post by: Hull Baggie on January 30, 2019, 08:49:21 AM
To be pedantic we did start the season with a recognised RB, Nyom played the first 3 games as a right back in a back 4.
We brought in Mears who is a RB and played him as a RWB  (which he couldn't do). On Saturday Mears played as a RB and looked okay.
Overreaction/10.

I see no issue whatsoever in what Liam wrote, it was utterly absurd to let Nyom go and fail to replace him, instead bringing in one of Darren's pals who is clearly no longer up to it.

that's a contradiction.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears
Post by: OldburyWBA on January 30, 2019, 08:51:51 AM
But we can call our club 'insane'??

As pointed out he didn't call the club insane, he said it was insane, big difference and I also don't see that as abusing or insulting the club.

People are allowed to criticise the club, we pay our money and so are allowed to comment on it both good, bad, positive or negative, that will not change on this forum as long as it is within the forum rules.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears
Post by: Fritzl Palace on January 30, 2019, 09:18:42 AM
To be pedantic we did start the season with a recognised RB, Nyom played the first 3 games as a right back in a back 4.
We brought in Mears who is a RB and played him as a RWB  (which he couldn't do). On Saturday Mears played as a RB and looked okay.
that's a contradiction.

Not really, bringing in someone who is no longer a footballer is hardly a replacement, as bad as Nyom was/is.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears
Post by: Hull Baggie on January 30, 2019, 09:23:51 AM
Not really, bringing in someone who is no longer a footballer is hardly a replacement, as bad as Nyom was/is.

You stated that we didn't bring in a replacement, then said the person we did bring in as a replacement wasn't very good.

Agree that Mears was poor as a RWB but I think he did okay on Saturday as a RB.

Title: Re: Tyrone Mears
Post by: SmethDan on January 30, 2019, 09:25:31 AM
If you wish to insult the club (that you purport to support) with inane slurs such as 'insane', carry on.......

Wow, you must have some serious meltdowns behind that screen of yours regarding a lot of the absolute tripe which passes for opinion on here at times  ;D  ;) ......
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears
Post by: Fritzl Palace on January 30, 2019, 09:40:34 AM
You stated that we didn't bring in a replacement, then said the person we did bring in as a replacement wasn't very good.

Agree that Mears was poor as a RWB but I think he did okay on Saturday as a RB.

Semantics  8)

I said we failed to replace a right back. We brought someone in who we then opted to play in that position...or as a wing back in the nonsensical 5 at the back we persisted with for far too long, but we did not replace Nyom.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears
Post by: tommcneill on January 30, 2019, 10:05:50 AM
Semantics  8)

I said we failed to replace a right back. We brought someone in who we then opted to play in that position...or as a wing back in the nonsensical 5 at the back we persisted with for far too long, but we did not replace Nyom.

We shipped out a RB and brought in a RB....in that sense we replaced Nyom
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears
Post by: Hull Baggie on January 30, 2019, 11:06:51 AM
Semantics  8)

I said we failed to replace a right back. We brought someone in who we then opted to play in that position...or as a wing back in the nonsensical 5 at the back we persisted with for far too long, but we did not replace Nyom.

That's semantics!
We replaced a right back with a right back but didn't replace Alan Nyom (a right back) is essentially what you are saying.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears
Post by: Fritzl Palace on January 30, 2019, 11:12:31 AM
That's semantics!
We replaced a right back with a right back but didn't replace Alan Nyom (a right back) is essentially what you are saying.

We got rid of a semi-functioning footballer and then did some pro bono charity work by electing to pay someone a wage and claim that they were a replacement  ;D

We could be here all day so I shall end it there.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears
Post by: Hull Baggie on January 30, 2019, 11:15:22 AM
We got rid of a semi-functioning footballer and then did some pro bono charity work by electing to pay someone a wage and claim that they were a replacement  ;D

We could be here all day so I shall end it there.

I was about to post the same thing! What we both can agree on (I think) is that we need a better right back!
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears
Post by: Fritzl Palace on January 30, 2019, 11:27:25 AM
I was about to post the same thing! What we both can agree on (I think) is that we need a better right back!

Come the summer, regardless of what division we are in, most definitely. Would like to dream that we could keep Holgate, but other than a season long loan were we to get promoted I imagine he will be back at Everton next season.
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on January 30, 2019, 12:42:43 PM
If you wish to insult the club (that you purport to support) with inane slurs such as 'insane', carry on. Rather diminishes the thrust of your argument imo.
And, I repeat, just how do you know what efforts were made to recruit, and where the failures lie??

I think other posters within this thread have highlighted perfectly that I did not call the club insane. Which all seems a rather pointless argument.

I also never accused them of a lack of effort - or sitting on their hands as you stated previously.

I can see that attempts was made (Tavernier for starters) but the club failed to sign a permanent right back which would resolve the problem. The fact we didn't sign a right back was insane.

And you know perfectly well that's what I mean..
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears
Post by: Albionic on January 30, 2019, 12:44:34 PM
Can a club be insane ? I think not, just saying !
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears
Post by: Wigmore on January 30, 2019, 12:51:45 PM
Wow, you must have some serious meltdowns behind that screen of yours regarding a lot of the absolute tripe which passes for opinion on here at times  ;D  ;) ......
Not at all, but thanks for your concern. :D  ;D
I am more saddened that posters seem to delight in belittling players who play for WBAFC.
In Mears' case the abuse and denigration far exceeds the criticism his performances merit imo.

I rarely bother to look at over-moderated, moribund websites, filled with fatuous opinions and factually inaccurate statements. As I also abstain from participation on any other platform (Facebook et al) my meltdown quota is well under control. ;)
Having been subjected to the frustrations of 900+ attended WBA games, the current internet irritation factors are a mere bagatelle.  ;D
Title: Re: Tyrone Mears
Post by: Albionic on January 30, 2019, 12:54:15 PM
Not at all, but thanks for your concern. :D  ;D
I am more saddened that posters seem to delight in belittling players who play for WBAFC.
In Mears' case the abuse and denigration far exceeds the criticism his performances merit imo.

I rarely bother to look at over-moderated, moribund websites, filled with fatuous opinions and factually inaccurate statements. As I also abstain from participation on any other platform (Facebook et al) my meltdown quota is well under control. ;)
Having been subjected to the frustrations of 900+ attended WBA games, the current internet irritation factors are a mere bagatelle.  ;D

I guess that these (enboldened) would not include yours!  The arrogance of that statement is staggering - Just Saying !