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Title: Ben Foster (Sold to Watford)
Post by: Silva on May 25, 2011, 12:26:01 PM
West Brom are ready to rival Tottenham in the battle for Birmingham goalkeeper Ben Foster - Daily Mirror

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Transfer-news-West-Brom-to-battle-Tottenham-for-Birmingham-keeper-Ben-Foster-article740432.html
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: B_H_Baggie on May 25, 2011, 12:31:40 PM
Certainly wouldn't surprise me if we asked about him but I would be extremely surprised if he didn't get a move to somewhere like Spurs to be honest.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: AlbionLegend on May 25, 2011, 12:43:27 PM
Yeah, I'd expect us to enquire about him but we would never pay the money Birmingham want which is why he will probably go to someone like spurs.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: zippyandbungle on May 25, 2011, 12:43:55 PM
He will go to Villa...
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: KnaveofAlbion on May 25, 2011, 12:53:30 PM
If he goes to Villa that will be a proper slap to the blue noses, thus, i will laugh.

As said above, i'd expect us to ask, but we won't get near to him i don't think. That being said, i'd love him to sign. Properly top level keeper.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Jamesa2407 on May 25, 2011, 01:06:29 PM
I personally think we will have a sniff.. but he will go to tottenham.. they seem to having a lot of the top relegated players dont you think? but yeah 8m tottenham.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: divinewind on May 25, 2011, 01:19:24 PM
Very good keeper in my opinion,but the world his is oyster.be a great coup but i can't see it happening.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: dangerman on May 25, 2011, 01:20:24 PM
I personally think we will have a sniff.. but he will go to tottenham.. they seem to having a lot of the top relegated players dont you think? but yeah 8m tottenham.

The only advantage to us is that he wouldn't have to move house (assuming he lives in the midlands).

I can't see us paying the money blues would want for him.

Let's be honest, we are in a similar position to blues were last year in the fact we've had a good season and going into our second season.  Why would he want to do that again.

I think Spurs is a good shout.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: baggiebof on May 25, 2011, 01:26:09 PM
The only advantage to us is that he wouldn't have to move house (assuming he lives in the midlands).


He's from Leamington Spa so I'd guess he does live in the Midlands, perhaps somewhere in Warwickshire.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: wbako on May 25, 2011, 01:30:36 PM
Definitely worth an enquiry. He has been very impressive this season.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: jjb0rdell0 on May 25, 2011, 01:38:12 PM
You gotta speculate to accumulate  ;)

Ben Foster must be worth at least a bit of speculation :-P
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Baggie Artist on May 25, 2011, 01:52:55 PM
I wouldn't want him. Makes far too many mistakes, his kicking is poor and we don't need a great shot stopper.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Signor_Maresca on May 25, 2011, 02:23:38 PM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: DommyKeay19 on May 25, 2011, 02:28:59 PM
I think it would be very disloyal on Foster's part moving to a local rival so i don't think he'd join us, he's still young so has plenty of years to get back to the prem, it would be pretty much a sidewards move for him. Perhaps a cheeky 5 mil bid and give 'em Myhill to test the waters but nah no chance.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: VANDERLEI on May 25, 2011, 02:30:39 PM
I wouldn't want him. Makes far too many mistakes, his kicking is poor and we don't need a great shot stopper.

Agreed, I don't rate him. Seems to be error prone.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Greenock Baggie on May 25, 2011, 03:22:10 PM
Agreed, I don't rate him. Seems to be error prone.
We already have one of them !

He should be careful about Spurs though, this season is a flash in the proverbial pan. Same old teams for the Champions league at the end of next season, Manure, Arse and all, Chelski and either Man Citeh or the Scouse :(
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: B_H_Baggie on May 25, 2011, 03:36:43 PM
He's no more error prone than the majority of goalkeepers in the Premier League, only the likes of van der sar don't seem to make many. Goalkeepers all make errors and they are highlighted because they almost always lead to goals being conceded, Foster has at least proven that he can bounce back from his errors immediately.

I would be more concerned about his past injury record than error rate personally.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: baggieboyjop on May 25, 2011, 06:35:00 PM
I wouldn't want him. Makes far too many mistakes, his kicking is poor and we don't need a great shot stopper.

I agree that he is very overrated as people for some reason seem to forget the amount of mistakes he actually makes. However i do think he would be worth a sniff, would make for great competition for the number 1 next season with him and scotty
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Baggie Artist on May 25, 2011, 06:39:45 PM
He's no more error prone than the majority of goalkeepers in the Premier League, only the likes of van der sar don't seem to make many. Goalkeepers all make errors and they are highlighted because they almost always lead to goals being conceded, Foster has at least proven that he can bounce back from his errors immediately.

I would be more concerned about his past injury record than error rate personally.

He made three mistakes against us alone this season
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: B_H_Baggie on May 25, 2011, 07:15:55 PM
He made three mistakes against us alone this season

How many other games did you see him play?

Every time I saw him he made some fantastic saves and kept Birmingham in numerous games, how many games can we say Carson kept us in as it wouldn't be half as many.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: B_H_Baggie on May 25, 2011, 07:21:28 PM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on May 25, 2011, 07:55:23 PM
I see Foster as a keeper who runs around his goal abit too make himself look better. For instance, the Wolves game at St Andrews a few weeks ago, no need to come running out that far and take down the man. Although he is a decent shot stopper, I don't see much between either of him or Scott Carson. If anything I'd prefer Scott Carson as the latter has a much better kicking. For all the hype which surrounds Foster, I don't think he is brilliant. Probably been behind a very stable Johnson and Dann has helped him alot. When the Blues defence fell apart in recent weeks with the likes of Martin Jiranek featuring we saw a few cracks appear in Foster's game.

As for the fee, I'm sure Blues are asking for a hefty fee, something which we're not looking to give, especially as we have two goalkeepers on our books with one being quite similar to Ben Foster.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: B_H_Baggie on May 25, 2011, 08:05:38 PM
As for the fee, I'm sure Blues are asking for a hefty fee, something which we're not looking to give, especially as we have two goalkeepers on our books with one being quite similar to Ben Foster.

You are spot on with the fee but in all honesty if one of our goalkeepers is similar to Foster then the other one is too, not much to pick between the two we already have except much better controlled distribution from Carson.

I certainly agree that Foster is nothing special and I wouldn't want to waste big money on him but I doubt we will get much better unless it is someone most of will never have heard of from abroad.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on May 25, 2011, 08:17:35 PM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: leeiswba on May 25, 2011, 08:21:30 PM
Ben Foster is as class goalkeeper, I'm not sure who some of our fans expect us to get  :-\

Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: B_H_Baggie on May 25, 2011, 08:28:00 PM
Expectations could be an issue with us this summer, I personally believe Foster is better than the two we currently have but can anyone honestly say it is a significant enough difference to appease most of our fans. Afterall Foster makes plenty of errors and as mentioned by other plays in a much more defensive minded side at Birmingham, if you take into account the kind of fee they will want for him then I can understand why some would certainly be unsure about him.

I think the link to him is a little tenuous to begin with to be honest as everyone knows we need a keeper so we are easy to link to.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on May 25, 2011, 08:29:53 PM
Ben Foster is as class goalkeeper, I'm not sure who some of our fans expect us to get  :-\

I think class is certainly abit too far. Class is the word I'd give to the likes of Petr Cech and Edwin Van Dar Saar, Foster is good, but certainly not class.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: leeiswba on May 25, 2011, 08:34:56 PM
I disagree mate I think he is class, i think he at least top 10 in the Prem if not top 6 so in my opinion I think he is class. Whoever comes in I think that he is going to have a job on his hands because some of our fans I actually dont think have a very good knowledge of football and seem to think that the goalkeeper is to blame for most goals and the first thing that goes wrong they will want Carson back in e.g. the chants for Deano even though he got a lot of abuse. To the people who dont think he is is very good I'd like to ask them who they actually believe is a better keeper than him that we could sign?
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on May 25, 2011, 08:47:56 PM
I disagree mate I think he is class, i think he at least top 10 in the Prem if not top 6 so in my opinion I think he is class. Whoever comes in I think that he is going to have a job on his hands because some of our fans I actually dont think have a very good knowledge of football and seem to think that the goalkeeper is to blame for most goals and the first thing that goes wrong they will want Carson back in e.g. the chants for Deano even though he got a lot of abuse. To the people who dont think he is is very good I'd like to ask them who they actually believe is a better keeper than him that we could sign?

I don't think it's realistic we could sign him though in honesty, because Birmingham will be looking for a high figure fee which we're certainly not going to pay. Ben Foster, credit to him is a good keeper but certainly not class. If he such a class keeper why didn't he ever feature more for Manchester United? As someone said above, often falling behind PIG in the running. He certainly isn't class if the PIG is squeezing his way above him. He then was loaned out to Watford after only making 12 appearances for Man United, not exactly 'class'. Five international appearances since 2007 doesn't have much class about it.

I'd take Foster at our club but there isn't much difference between him or Carson in honesty. The money which Birmingham would ask for means any potential deal is a no-go.

Edit: Apologies if this sounds arrogant, it isn't meant to be  :D
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on May 25, 2011, 08:59:21 PM
Whoever comes in I think that he is going to have a job on his hands because some of our fans I actually dont think have a very good knowledge of football and seem to think that the goalkeeper is to blame for most goals.

I do agree with you there, however. It's a good point, and we're only adding more pressure onto the goalkeepers shoulders. Playing behind our defence is already bad enough!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: leeiswba on May 25, 2011, 09:00:08 PM
Not arrogant at all just your opinion mate, but I see it differently because I think he is class thats why we probably wont sign him because a class team such as Spurs will probably get him  ;)

The point I'm trying to make really is that a lot of people (I know you dont) slag our goalkeeper off and want a new one yet when a decent keeper does come up they also feel he is not good enough so I'm struggling to see what they actaully expect.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on May 25, 2011, 09:07:08 PM
Not arrogant at all just your opinion mate, but I see it differently because I think he is class thats why we probably wont sign him because a class team such as Spurs will probably get him  ;)

The point I'm trying to make really is that a lot of people (I know you dont) slag our goalkeeper off and want a new one yet when a decent keeper does come up they also feel he is not good enough so I'm struggling to see what they actaully expect.

Can only agree with your second point and one when I've asked a similar question to several Carson 'haters' and got no reply. I'd hate to be a goalkeeper at our club, the demands of the fans are unreal. Scott Carson is at a young age and has the ability to be a decent keeper, if he gets the right coaching and the fans remain fully behind him.

I saw an article on here about a journalist who attended a game as a neutral against Chelsea and yet heard the abuse Carson was given. He then went an made an article on it and it was posted on here. It's embarrasing that other people have picked upon our high demands.

Spurs need a keeper in fairness as Gomes just isn't reliable as he's proved on a few occasions this season. I'm sure Ben Foster would do well there as he'll be playing behind two very impressive centre backs in Michael Dawson and Ledley King.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Baggie Artist on May 25, 2011, 09:21:14 PM
How many other games did you see him play?

Every time I saw him he made some fantastic saves and kept Birmingham in numerous games, how many games can we say Carson kept us in as it wouldn't be half as many.

I know, of course he'd be an improvement.

How many games have we seen this season where Carson hasn't had that much to do though. I think we need a steady but reliable keeper in the Sorensen mould over an eccentric matchwinner like Foster.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: baggieboyjop on May 25, 2011, 09:43:16 PM
I think class is certainly abit too far. Class is the word I'd give to the likes of Petr Cech and Edwin Van Dar Saar, Foster is good, but certainly not class.

Agree. He is far to overrated imo. And i'd quite frankly have scotty as they make just as many mistakes than the other however scotty's kicking wins it for me
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Rich99 on May 25, 2011, 09:51:19 PM
I think there will be other clubs willing to pay more than us sniffing around him.

Also, doesn't he have a questionable injury record?  If we paid a huge amount for him it perhaps might be a bit of a risk.

This is about the 4th or 5th keeper we've been linked with in the last few weeks.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: leeiswba on May 25, 2011, 09:52:03 PM
Agree. He is far to overrated imo. And i'd quite frankly have scotty as they make just as many mistakes than the other however scotty's kicking wins it for me

I'd love to keep Carson but he is never going to be accepted here by some idiots, even if he had a solid first 10 games if he made one mistake next game everyone would be on his back again. Its a disgrace that it has got like this and it makes me ashamed that people like that are associated with the team I support.

Personally if we did get Ben Foster I think it would be a brilliant signing, but I dont see it happening. I do think we need a new keeper not because Carson isnt good enough but because of the reason above
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Dexy on May 25, 2011, 09:56:01 PM
Top draw shot stopper but doesnt convince me on crosses for a big bloke,given our history of set pieces im not sure he is the right bloke.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: alex1 on May 25, 2011, 10:13:07 PM
I don't know why people have been focussing on a few mistakes. I've seen him have absolute blinders for Blues and he could be a regular in the England team (although I accept there is no other obvious choice). I think we should snap him up unless the price is way outside our budget.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on May 25, 2011, 10:17:58 PM
Top draw shot stopper but doesnt convince me on crosses for a big bloke,given our history of set pieces im not sure he is the right bloke.

Agree with that and well mentioned, I've saw him flap once or twice on crosses this season. Fulham the other week at St Andrews, aswell as Paul Scharner's goal at St Andrews. I think we've all mentioned the need for a commanding keeper but it's a struggle getting one. If we can't find a keeper, then I'll be happy enough with Scott Carson.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: A5HB on May 25, 2011, 10:25:38 PM
Would be a no from me I think, older than Carson, would cost a big fee and I think he is overrated. I'd say this season he has made more individual errors then Carson has this season and his more basic flaws in his game (I think his decision making and kicking has been poor whenever I have seen him)

Granted he isn't terrible, but don't think he is better than what we have, especially for what Blues would want for him.
Don't really buy the good shot stopper argument either as I saw an interesting stat in the paper last week which I can't remember it exactly but, obviously before this last weekend of games, Foster had been forced to make a save more often than any other goalkeeper which made me think the reason he is seen to make so many good saves is because he has so many opportunities to make them.

Yes i know you could argue that obviously it means he has more chances to make a mistake but I think his mistakes come from other parts of his game which I feel Carson and Myhill are both better at.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Pistol Pete on May 25, 2011, 10:39:01 PM
Would be a no from me I think, older than Carson, would cost a big fee and I think he is overrated. I'd say this season he has made more individual errors then Carson has this season and his more basic flaws in his game (I think his decision making and kicking has been poor whenever I have seen him)

Granted he isn't terrible, but don't think he is better than what we have, especially for what Blues would want for him.
Don't really buy the good shot stopper argument either as I saw an interesting stat in the paper last week which I can't remember it exactly but, obviously before this last weekend of games, Foster had been forced to make a save more often than any other goalkeeper which made me think the reason he is seen to make so many good saves is because he has so many opportunities to make them.

Yes i know you could argue that obviously it means he has more chances to make a mistake but I think his mistakes come from other parts of his game which I feel Carson and Myhill are both better at.

Overrated? With respect I think that's absolutely ridiculous.

Foster is one of the best keepers in the league, the statistics even show he's made more saves than any other keeper in the league. I'm sorry but we've had less on target shots against us and conceded more goals than Birmingham so what does that tell you?  Blues' defense has been shaky for the majority of the season and he's been utterly fantastic.

We don't have a chance at Foster because he's a 10 million rate keeper, what we have are 2 million rated keepers. Foster has probably had the best season out of any this season, he won them the League Cup and kept them in games against Chelsea, Stoke, Aston Villa, Fulham, Blackburn, Tottenham and probably more which have slipped my mind. Birmingham City would've been on about 15 less points or more if they had Carson in goal instead of Foster FACT.

Why do all the people who defend Carson slate other keepers?
If this thread was open to the general public the vast, vast majority would laugh at some of the opinions on here.
I'm not saying I'm right and you're entitled to your opinion, but seriously I cannot see why anyone would think Foster is not as good as what we have.

Beyond that Foster isn't a realistic target. Tottenham and Aston Villa are after him and he's rated 10 million.

Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: A5HB on May 25, 2011, 10:51:46 PM
Overrated? With respect I think that's absolutely ridiculous.

Foster is one of the best keepers in the league, the statistics even show he's made more saves than any other keeper in the league. I'm sorry but we've had less on target shots against us and conceded more goals than Birmingham so what does that tell you?  Blues' defense has been shaky for the majority of the season and he's been utterly fantastic.

We don't have a chance at Foster because he's a 10 million rate keeper, what we have are 2 million rated keepers. Foster has probably had the best season out of any this season, he won them the League Cup and kept them in games against Chelsea, Stoke, Aston Villa, Fulham, Blackburn, Tottenham and probably more which have slipped my mind. Birmingham City would've been on about 15 less points or more if they had Carson in goal instead of Foster FACT.

Why do all the people who defend Carson slate other keepers?
If this thread was open to the general public the vast, vast majority would laugh at some of the opinions on here.
I'm not saying I'm right and you're entitled to your opinion, but seriously I cannot see why anyone would think Foster is not as good as what we have.

Beyond that Foster isn't a realistic target. Tottenham and Aston Villa are after him and he's rated 10 million.

Don't worry no disrespect taken, this is a forum after all and debate comes from difference of opinion :) I can see why you think he is a good goalkeeper, plenty of people do in fairness, I just think he is overrated, doesn't mean that I think he his bad per say, just that I don't think that he is as good as is made out.

There has obviously been times where he has made good saves, the carling cup final and their win against chelsea being prime examples, but I can remember plenty of times when he has made really big mistakes for blues and united such as against wolves the other week and I just don't think he is that good. I wouldn't feel anymore confident having Foster in goal then either of our other keepers to be honest as I think the flaws in their games would pose exactly the same problems, even though Foster may be a slightly better shot stopper.

You say Blues would be 15 points worse off if Carson had been playing instead of Foster but that can't really be proven as it is impossible to say whether Carson, Myhill or indeed any other goalkeeper could make the saves he has made in the games you mention. There has also been times our goal keepers have made very good saves in games which have won us points and Foster may not have made those saves.

Also in reply to your point that those who defend Carson feel the need to critise other goal keepers all the time, I happen to think there are plenty of goalkeepers around who are better than Carson, and that Carson has many flaws in his game but I happen to think he is on a similar level to Foster in terms of ability but Foster always seems rated as the better goalkeeper, as is Rob Green who is another goalkeeper I believe to be of a similar ability but obviously that is a discussion for another thread, this is about Ben Foster.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Pistol Pete on May 25, 2011, 10:53:24 PM
Well that's noble of you lol, I've said all I need to say. Foster's out of our league IMO. It just stuns me some people on here wouldn't take him, but that's their opinion. I personally would be thrilled if we signed Foster, but it's not happening.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: leeiswba on May 25, 2011, 11:20:34 PM
Well that's noble of you lol, I've said all I need to say. Foster's out of our league IMO. It just stuns me some people on here wouldn't take him, but that's their opinion. I personally would be thrilled if we signed Foster, but it's not happening.

I feel the same mate, rate the chap very highly, and we would be very lucky if we managed to sign him but as you said I dont theink we have much chance
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: WSBaggie on July 06, 2011, 09:14:43 PM
1/5 to sign for us now, does someone know something we don't?
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Andio on July 06, 2011, 09:51:10 PM
1/5 to sign for us now, does someone know something we don't?

Already been mentioned, been that odds for the last few days.

Who knows?  ;D
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on July 06, 2011, 10:58:10 PM
I really doubt we'd even look at signing him tbh, his fee alone would be the major stumbling block. Birmingham will want more than what they paid for him and that alone will surely go past our asking price.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: costa blanca baggie on July 06, 2011, 11:17:51 PM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: chipperclark on July 07, 2011, 06:42:04 AM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Kicking Pigeons on July 07, 2011, 07:43:43 AM
;D He must follow McLeish to Villa.....they don't have a keeper???
I'd have guessed Villa were the most likely club for him to go to but they look odds on to get Given.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Londonbaggymike on July 07, 2011, 08:09:53 AM
He's been 1/5 on sky bet for a while. Rumour sites have nothing to lose by posting bs but bookies stand to lose money. Those odds at the very least suggest there has been a large amount of cash been put on him with very little rumour around for regular punters to inform their bets.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: bradleysrocket on July 07, 2011, 10:00:28 AM
He's been 1/5 on sky bet for a while. Rumour sites have nothing to lose by posting bs but bookies stand to lose money. Those odds at the very least suggest there has been a large amount of cash been put on him with very little rumour around for regular punters to inform their bets.
There is never a lot of money staked in the next club transfer market so even a few small bets on foster would be enough for bookies to shorten his price.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: wba1968-Tim on July 07, 2011, 10:06:54 AM
He's been 1/5 on sky bet for a while. Rumour sites have nothing to lose by posting bs but bookies stand to lose money. Those odds at the very least suggest there has been a large amount of cash been put on him with very little rumour around for regular punters to inform their bets.


Actually I just checked and on the 4/7/2011 he was 4/1 it is only today that the odds have gone to 1/5 - this is according to oddschecker who are usually spot on.

Could be significant - At least I hope so.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: DudleyBaggieFan on July 07, 2011, 10:19:02 AM
Would love him here!!!!!!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: baggie steve on July 07, 2011, 10:21:54 AM
The bookies rarely get it wrong !! be fantastic if he comes to us , a great keeper
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: wba1968-Tim on July 07, 2011, 10:24:41 AM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: B_H_Baggie on July 07, 2011, 10:45:30 AM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: phbaggies on July 07, 2011, 11:04:14 AM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: tucka9 on July 07, 2011, 11:16:32 AM
I think Foster or another keeper will join this weekend as i can't see Hodgson wanting to start pre-season tour without his number 1 to be honest.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: B_H_Baggie on July 07, 2011, 11:17:42 AM
Could be why we are looking at/ signed a few free transfers :)

Here's hoping but have we actually been linked with Foster in the local press yet or are we just going by the betting odds on one website?
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Sussex-Baggie on July 07, 2011, 11:21:01 AM
I would really like to see us sign Ben Foster, but I can't see it happening unfortunately. He would cost a fair amount of money and I would have thought Birmingham City would rather sell him too a club willing to pay a higher price, which immediately reduces our chances of signing him.

Reading back over this thread, it seems as though some posters on here thought that Foster was not a dramatic improvement on Scott Carson. I always gave my full support to Carson, but Foster is by far the better goalkeeper, in my opinion. He makes the occasional error, but is a better shot-stopper and is still more commanding than Carson.

If we could realistically sign Foster, I think we should definitely consider making an offer!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: wba1993dave on July 07, 2011, 11:24:44 AM
The only way we could get him is if we offer them 2 players (Myhill,Miller) and give them 4 million
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: addy on July 07, 2011, 11:25:19 AM
Chris said on twitter that Foster would be not target/way out our range, so doubt it will happen even though I would like it too.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: The Joust on July 07, 2011, 11:26:24 AM
Chris said on twitter that Foster would be not target/way out our range, so doubt it will happen even though I would like it too.

To be fair, although he obviously knows more than the average joe, ie me and you, he is not the be all and end all of WBA transfer speculation... He can/has been wrong...
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: AidantheBaggies on July 07, 2011, 11:27:08 AM
I really do not see what the fuss is with Ben Foster, everytime i watched him last season he made mistakes quite a bit. Yes he is slighlty better than Carson but not alot better. Just my opinion of course.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: addy on July 07, 2011, 11:27:36 AM
To be fair, although he obviously knows more than the average joe, ie me and you, he is not the be all and end all of WBA transfer speculation... He can/has been wrong...

I know but its usually not a great sign to start with if he says it, the only thing we have going for us really is that we are apparently going to spend big when it comes to GK, the only player that really sticks out at the mo is Foster. with Given supposedly turning us down, which yet could turn out to be wrong as well.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: wba1993dave on July 07, 2011, 11:29:06 AM
Where was he when Billy Jones signed ?  ;D
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: addy on July 07, 2011, 11:31:09 AM
Where was he when Billy Jones signed ?  ;D

Oi Oi No Chris bashing, its not allowed here!  8)
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: phbaggies on July 07, 2011, 11:32:18 AM
Here's hoping but have we actually been linked with Foster in the local press yet or are we just going by the betting odds on one website?
The fact that its not in the press suits me fine, but have you ever heard of a bookie giving such short odds without either large amounts going on it or inside info, Skybet is not even a small time bookie so to me that tells me more than tribal or the Mirror doing a write up on it! I may be wrong but to me there is something in it...
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: addy on July 07, 2011, 11:33:40 AM
The fact that its not in the press suits me fine, but have you ever heard of a bookie giving such short odds without either large amounts going on it or inside info, Skybet is not even a small time bookie so to me that tells me more than tribal or the Mirror doing a write up on it! I may be wrong but to me there is something in it...

Pretty sure it happened with us and Jermaine Beckford? From SkyBet too if I recall.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: texisonfire on July 07, 2011, 11:35:07 AM
The only way we could get him is if we offer them 2 players (Myhill,Miller) and give them 4 million

It's a good point because blues' squad is so small, that giving them players that we don't really need works for both parties
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: slate on July 07, 2011, 12:42:03 PM
He will be joining us on a 1 year loan deal, probably next week.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Mister AT on July 07, 2011, 12:46:47 PM
He will be joining us on a 1 year loan deal, probably next week.

And you know this...
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: bigbadjohn on July 07, 2011, 12:48:18 PM
1 year loan deal haha thats so funny why why why would birmingham loan him to us they want to sell him .
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Mulumbu99 on July 07, 2011, 12:49:16 PM
1 year loan deal haha thats so funny why why why would birmingham loan him to us they want to sell him .

why did we loan out davies/kuszack/valero ?
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: slate on July 07, 2011, 12:49:45 PM
1 year loan deal haha thats so funny why why why would birmingham loan him to us they want to sell him .


Wages for us are the problem.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: bigbadjohn on July 07, 2011, 12:51:13 PM
this will not happen in a million years,  noway will blues loan him out to us simple . what good would that be for blues ! its stupid .
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: slate on July 07, 2011, 12:52:40 PM
this will not happen in a million years,  noway will blues loan him out to us simple . what good would that be for blues ! its stupid .

Yeah, I am sure that you would know better than the person that I just spoke to.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: JDWest_Brom on July 07, 2011, 12:53:43 PM
I can't see that happening. What's your source?

The only reason for them to do it would be to get his wages off their wage bill for a season, hoping they get promoted at the first attempt. So he can go back there next year.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Savvas78 on July 07, 2011, 12:53:56 PM
Quote
Wages for us are the problem.

Maybe. But Peace has stated that the club would pay market value in fees and wages if they felt the player was of adequate quality.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: slate on July 07, 2011, 12:59:14 PM
I can't see that happening. What's your source?

The only reason for them to do it would be to get his wages off their wage bill for a season, hoping they get promoted at the first attempt. So he can go back there next year.

That would make sense. My source is 100% that this move should happen, however there is still work to be done on personal terms and he has not had a medical yet but there should be no problems there. Just gotta sit back and wait now!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Dan on July 07, 2011, 01:00:33 PM
The odds have been like that for a few days which suggests there is nothing in it. Somebody probably just put quiet a large bet on. I remember there being really short odds (might have even stopped taking bets) for beckford a couple of years back, and we didn't even bid for him.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: bigbadjohn on July 07, 2011, 01:12:45 PM
is this a loan to a permenant deal are you saying ? So who told you this then slate Roy hodgson ?
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: dinkydave2003 on July 07, 2011, 01:17:14 PM
is this a loan to a permenant deal are you saying ? So who told you this then slate Roy hodgson ?

or the boy with the magic tourch??   :P
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: monkey nuts on July 07, 2011, 01:28:49 PM
this will not happen in a million years,  noway will blues loan him out to us simple . what good would that be for blues ! its stupid .

not saying he is right but to say it stupid is in fact stupid itself  ;)

a good keeper is what a lot of teams want (need) so if they could sell others but keep Foster by just loaning him out for a year then if they get promoted they still have a good keeper and if they don't they sell him anyway and they have saved a couple of mill in wages,

win win for Blues i think
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: dinkydave2003 on July 07, 2011, 01:30:08 PM
not saying he is right but to say it stupid is in fact stupid itself  ;)

a good keeper is what a lot of teams want (need) so if they could sell others but keep Foster by just loaning him out for a year then if they get promoted they still have a good keeper and if they don't they sell him anyway and they have saved a couple of mill in wages,

win win for Blues i think

stupid is as stupid does!!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: lordbaggie on July 07, 2011, 02:01:05 PM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Axel Foley on July 07, 2011, 02:09:34 PM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: costa blanca baggie on July 07, 2011, 02:44:29 PM
stupid is as stupid does!!
" Run Foster....run like the wind......" ;D
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Astle1968 on July 07, 2011, 05:12:40 PM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: bradleysrocket on July 07, 2011, 05:14:21 PM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Astle1968 on July 07, 2011, 05:22:59 PM
You sound well off........lend us a tenner ;)

Sorry mate, going to use all my spare cash lumping on Nasri to WBA and see how low I can get the odds on that to drop
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: baggieboy on July 07, 2011, 10:12:36 PM
ben foster would be good but west brom wont pay the money
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: BB74 on July 07, 2011, 10:14:34 PM
I like lordbaggies idea. Just listened to baggies view though and CL reckons he is not on the radar.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: beechyboy90 on July 07, 2011, 10:19:18 PM
is he really on that much money?
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Mulumbu99 on July 07, 2011, 10:19:58 PM
foster isn't even a target....
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: slate on July 07, 2011, 10:23:18 PM
is he really on that much money?

How much money do you think he's on?
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: BB74 on July 07, 2011, 10:34:45 PM
A tweet from CL 4 minutes ago claiming there might now be an interest in Ben Foster.  :)

'But seems there might now be an interest'

'Not as advanced as being stated. But seems missing out on Given has forced a rethink. Hence DV's revaluation'.

'And all of a sudden wba 's decision to not pursue Vaughan is starting to make sense....'
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: blandyisabaggie on July 07, 2011, 10:41:54 PM
He would be so good. I think hes a class goalie
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Pistol Pete on July 07, 2011, 10:50:10 PM
something's going downnnn  :P
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: BB74 on July 07, 2011, 10:53:13 PM
Is the 'wow' that Kiely was talking about.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Kicking Pigeons on July 07, 2011, 10:54:47 PM
Is the 'wow' that Kiely was talking about.
Caps lock, exclamation marks and shocked face smilies on standby.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: WBASPE77 on July 07, 2011, 10:55:11 PM
I would like him here, decent keeper, really hope we sign him.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: The Joust on July 07, 2011, 11:22:37 PM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: B_H_Baggie on July 07, 2011, 11:29:49 PM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: B_H_Baggie on July 07, 2011, 11:33:54 PM
They are interesting comments from CL on twitter if we are indeed interested now. On his Baggies View earlier he did appear to be a little unsure about it making it clear that he could potentially become a target but wasn't to his knowledge at that point. Does seem to have been quite a bit of talk about him with little or even no media speculation so far, perhaps this is a case of no smoke without fire.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: addy on July 07, 2011, 11:39:24 PM
Very exciting if we can get him...
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: JDWest_Brom on July 07, 2011, 11:46:56 PM
England's number 2 for arguably England's number 4. The only English keeper better is Joe Hart.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Baggie Artist on July 07, 2011, 11:55:47 PM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Rich99 on July 08, 2011, 12:06:52 AM
Keepers don't get rated by fans as their player of the season for no reason.

He would be a great appointment, in my humble opinion.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: matth on July 08, 2011, 12:10:14 AM
We don't know for sure yet but if we pulled it off beca great signing!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Standaman on July 08, 2011, 12:13:57 AM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: jonny on July 08, 2011, 12:23:54 AM
We need to buy a top goalie first and foremost

Then a good cb


then a striker.


Anything else is just a bonus
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: KnaveofAlbion on July 08, 2011, 12:34:14 AM
Us signing Foster would have to be one of the buys of the summer!

I'm fairly suer Roy sees the two new lads plus Pablo as potential for going with olson next season. Pablo knows the language and the EPL alot better now and with 2 defensive midfielders having pace at CB isn't that important and we lay back alot for the counter, those McAuely could be chossen. Dawson to be a sub....

Of course, should a quality CB be available then forget all that and go get!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Dubya BA on July 08, 2011, 12:45:11 AM
I wonder whether there has only been an interest in Foster since a club employee read this thread? I would think every top goalie who might leave is a candidate and they have all been considered. Personally I think Foster is realistic and also good enough for us. So fingers are still crossed.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: JDWest_Brom on July 08, 2011, 12:58:27 AM
I wonder whether there has only been an interest in Foster since a club employee read this thread?

Really? Really??? Really?
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: addy on July 08, 2011, 01:21:34 AM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Dan on July 08, 2011, 01:25:55 AM
I would still be very surprised if anything came of it, I don't doubt we have an interest, but given the prices Blues are quoting for other players, coupled with the fact the large number of other sales and parachute payments mean they don't need to sell, well it just doesn't seem viable.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: tuamigos on July 08, 2011, 06:21:39 AM
According to CL on this interview we re not after Foster!
http://www.sundaymercury.net/midlands-sport/west-bromwich-albion-fc/west-brom-news/2011/07/07/baggies-view-west-brom-search-for-a-striker-goalkeeper-and-another-midfielder-97319-29013592/
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Kicking Pigeons on July 08, 2011, 07:24:25 AM
According to CL on this interview we re not after Foster!
http://www.sundaymercury.net/midlands-sport/west-bromwich-albion-fc/west-brom-news/2011/07/07/baggies-view-west-brom-search-for-a-striker-goalkeeper-and-another-midfielder-97319-29013592/
On the otherhand...

http://www.sundaymercury.net/midlands-sport/west-bromwich-albion-fc/west-brom-news/2011/07/08/west-brom-want-birmingham-city-star-ben-foster-97319-29017243/
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Axel Foley on July 08, 2011, 07:24:50 AM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: JDWest_Brom on July 08, 2011, 08:46:50 AM
Well I was expecting more from the Birmingham Mail story this morning than we've got an interest in him. After CL's tweets about it yesterday, I was expecting proper news. Like a bid had been accepted or something.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: dangerman on July 08, 2011, 08:51:28 AM
Well I was expecting more from the Birmingham Mail story this morning than we've got an interest in him. After CL's tweets about it yesterday, I was expecting proper news. Like a bid had been accepted or something.

chrislepkowski Chris Lepkowski
Busy day today. Press conference for #wba 's 2 signings, plus official launch of @bodoguk sponsorship deal

 :o
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: phbaggies on July 08, 2011, 08:53:28 AM
Blues signed a defender yday so wouldn't be surprised if it was Gera and ridgewell!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: dinkydave2003 on July 08, 2011, 08:54:17 AM
chrislepkowski Chris Lepkowski
Busy day today. Press conference for #wba 's 2 signings, plus official launch of @bodoguk sponsorship deal

 :o

2 signings been Macauley and Jones!!!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: The Joust on July 08, 2011, 08:54:21 AM
Gareth Mcauley and Billy Jones haven't had an interview yet have they? He probably means them pair
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: phbaggies on July 08, 2011, 08:57:06 AM
Good point probably right
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: dangerman on July 08, 2011, 08:58:35 AM
Gareth Mcauley and Billy Jones haven't had an interview yet have they? He probably means them pair

That was my thinking. But isn't it interesting the way CL is making his tweets more cryptic, with possible double meanings.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: dinkydave2003 on July 08, 2011, 09:02:56 AM
That was my thinking. But isn't it interesting the way CL is making his tweets more cryptic, with possible double meanings.

im really loosing faith in this guy, i really am!!
its very clever in how he's tweeted this, well its served its purpose because no doubt every message board will be in meltdown talking about it!!  ::)
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Standaman on July 08, 2011, 09:04:30 AM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: DudleyDan on July 08, 2011, 09:07:53 AM
im really loosing faith in this guy, i really am!!
its very clever in how he's tweeted this, well its served its purpose because no doubt every message board will be in meltdown talking about it!!  ::)

First he poo-pooed everyone on twitter saying Foster was no chance in a swarmy manner - not he's changed his tune and almost acting like he knew all along...

TeamTalk.com is a more reliable source I think.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: BAGGIES4LIFE on July 08, 2011, 09:14:51 AM
Gareth Mcauley and Billy Jones haven't had an interview yet have they? He probably means them pair

Sadly correct hes clarified that now.  Firstly Deano then CL all getting us all excited, p**ing me off now
By selling Carson without a ready replacement we have laid ourselves open to extortion by other clubs, possibly thats why Blues are now playing hard ball with Foster
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: WBAinDEVON on July 08, 2011, 09:18:42 AM
Sadly correct hes clarified that now.  Firstly Deano then CL all getting us all excited, p**ing me off now
By selling Carson without a ready replacement we have laid ourselves open to extortion by other clubs, possibly thats why Blues are now playing hard ball with Foster


Lets hope they turn out to be masterstroke signings
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Lloydy on July 08, 2011, 09:24:15 AM
Firstly Deano then CL all getting us all excited, p**ing me off now

Maybe if people started taking everything with a pinch of salt and chilling out a bit they wouldn't get so worked up.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: wba1968-Tim on July 08, 2011, 09:24:59 AM
City fans certainly talking about a deal in the making. :D

http://www.smallheathalliance.com/read.php?1,590110,590110#msg-590110
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: wba1968-Tim on July 08, 2011, 09:26:20 AM
Link to story if not already posted

http://www.birminghammail.net/birmingham-sport/birmingham-city-fc/birmingham-city-fc-news/2011/07/08/west-brom-want-birmingham-city-star-ben-foster-97319-29017243/
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: The Joust on July 08, 2011, 09:27:56 AM
Maybe if people started taking everything with a pinch of salt and chilling out a bit they wouldn't get so worked up.

You beat me to it
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: B_H_Baggie on July 08, 2011, 09:28:48 AM
Keepers don't get rated by fans as their player of the season for no reason.

Like Carson at Charlton  :-X
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: WBAinDEVON on July 08, 2011, 09:28:57 AM
So why has the big Eck not come in for him.Strange one that
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: The Joust on July 08, 2011, 09:30:20 AM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: B_H_Baggie on July 08, 2011, 09:30:50 AM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: The Joust on July 08, 2011, 09:33:14 AM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Kicking Pigeons on July 08, 2011, 09:36:16 AM
Sadly correct hes clarified that now.  Firstly Deano then CL all getting us all excited, p**ing me off now
By selling Carson without a ready replacement we have laid ourselves open to extortion by other clubs, possibly thats why Blues are now playing hard ball with Foster
Blues would've played hard ball regardless of whether Carson was still at the club. Look at how much they're valuing Johnson and Dann at. They aren't going to sell their best players without a fight. Besides it not like the only keepers we have are youths and we're desperate to get ANYONE, we still have Myhill who's played for us in this league and also a whole season in it with Hull.

Also Deano said on Saturday that something might be happening in the next 7-10 days, it's been 6 thus far.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: royhan on July 08, 2011, 09:41:33 AM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: RedHead_Baggie on July 08, 2011, 09:41:40 AM
We wont get Foster.


We will bid fairly low, Brum will want a big fee and negotiations will stop at that point.

I personally think we should just get an unknown foreign keeper in now and hope for the best. Will save any hassle later in the window.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: dangerman on July 08, 2011, 09:47:44 AM
We wont get Foster.

We will bid fairly low, Brum will want a big fee and negotiations will stop at that point.

I personally think we should just get an unknown foreign keeper in now and hope for the best. Will save any hassle later in the window.

In that case we may as well have had Vaughan.

Thing is people ain't happy whatever happens. If we didn't go for Foster people would moan that were not doing enough and now we are going for Foster people will still moan.

Not a dig at you mate, just the general feeling I get reading these boards sometimes.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: wba1993dave on July 08, 2011, 09:48:20 AM
I love how one of the blues fan said 'why would he go there' emmm because we are in the Premier League you idiot  ;D
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: WBAinDEVON on July 08, 2011, 09:55:56 AM
Some of their deluded fans think they are bigger than us
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Kicking Pigeons on July 08, 2011, 10:06:23 AM
We wont get Foster.


We will bid fairly low, Brum will want a big fee and negotiations will stop at that point.

I personally think we should just get an unknown foreign keeper in now and hope for the best. Will save any hassle later in the window.
Really? Oh rats. You should have got in contact with the club and informed them of this fact, would have saved them the time and hassle of targeting him. Ashworth, Hodgson, Peace - very silly people for not knowing this.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: wba1993dave on July 08, 2011, 10:21:40 AM
6.5 million  plus Myhill and Miller, we get a top keeper and they get 2 good Championship players. Lovely Jubbly :D
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: DudleyDan on July 08, 2011, 10:29:10 AM
I personally don't think Foster is any better than Carson was....
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: JDWest_Brom on July 08, 2011, 10:31:35 AM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Dan on July 08, 2011, 10:36:11 AM
I personally don't think Foster is any better than Carson was....

Must people insist on saying this about EVERY keeper we are linked too?
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: JDWest_Brom on July 08, 2011, 10:37:49 AM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Kicking Pigeons on July 08, 2011, 10:38:14 AM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on July 08, 2011, 11:33:07 AM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: saml30 on July 08, 2011, 11:35:10 AM
Must people insist on saying this about EVERY keeper we are linked too?

when its true yeah, the only keeper we have been linked with so far better than carson IMO is given, and thats a no go
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: tucka9 on July 08, 2011, 11:36:09 AM
I've got a strong feeling this ain't just an "interest" in my opinion, think it's way further down the line then that.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Dan on July 08, 2011, 11:41:28 AM
when its true yeah, the only keeper we have been linked with so far better than carson IMO is given, and thats a no go

I doubt there is a single neutral fan in the country who doesn't rate Foster ahead of Carson. He's by far and away the best English keeper going after Hart.

If people are actually expecting better than Foster then it would seem these people have completely unrealistic expectations.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Lloydy on July 08, 2011, 11:44:07 AM
I doubt there is a single neutral fan in the country who doesn't rate Foster ahead of Carson. He's by far and away the best English keeper going after Hart.

If people are actually expecting better than Foster then it would seem these people have completely unrealistic expectations.

I'm inclined to agree, as much as I liked Carson, Foster is a big step forward for us. Some people will never be happy though.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Baggie Artist on July 08, 2011, 11:48:16 AM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: tuamigos on July 08, 2011, 11:50:05 AM
I still think we'll end up with the P. I. G.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: DudleyBaggieFan on July 08, 2011, 11:51:47 AM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Savvas78 on July 08, 2011, 12:09:22 PM
WBA Mad say we are going to unveil Gera AND Foster in a press conference this afternoon!

http://www.westbromwichalbion-mad.co.uk/news/tmnw/albion_set_to_unveil_foster_and_gera_685536/index.shtml (http://www.westbromwichalbion-mad.co.uk/news/tmnw/albion_set_to_unveil_foster_and_gera_685536/index.shtml)
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Sussex-Baggie on July 08, 2011, 12:10:14 PM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Mister AT on July 08, 2011, 12:11:28 PM
Id like to see us sign Foster but it mainly depends on their asking price and how much we have set aside for a new keeper.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Sussex-Baggie on July 08, 2011, 12:15:29 PM
WBA Mad say we are going to unveil Gera AND Foster in a press conference this afternoon!

http://www.westbromwichalbion-mad.co.uk/news/tmnw/albion_set_to_unveil_foster_and_gera_685536/index.shtml (http://www.westbromwichalbion-mad.co.uk/news/tmnw/albion_set_to_unveil_foster_and_gera_685536/index.shtml)

Zoltan Gera won't be unveiled due to his injury, and I would be surprised if we signed Ben Foster just a few hours after we were linked with him from a reputable source!

I have seen rumours like this doing the rounds on various Albion sites this morning, but it seems as though the press conference this afternoon is to unveil Gareth McAuley and Billy Jones.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: beechyboy90 on July 08, 2011, 12:16:17 PM
the blues are going to want 6m back just to cover what they paid for him!
and maybe abit more on top so you could be looking at 8-10m unless we could offer them the likes of a miller mattock myhill etc might bring price down!

ultimately we are not going to get a good keeper for free or for peanuts.

sopeculate to accumulate depends if we as a club see it as viable to spend this much on a keeper
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: B_H_Baggie on July 08, 2011, 12:17:45 PM
WBA Mad say we are going to unveil Gera AND Foster in a press conference this afternoon!

http://www.westbromwichalbion-mad.co.uk/news/tmnw/albion_set_to_unveil_foster_and_gera_685536/index.shtml (http://www.westbromwichalbion-mad.co.uk/news/tmnw/albion_set_to_unveil_foster_and_gera_685536/index.shtml)

That is the problem with people running sites like this that make assumptions, seems they probably saw the tweet from CL this morning about a press conference for two new signings and simply guessed who it would be. They aren't journalists so should stick to rehashing what has been printed elsewhere and not let themselves get carried away like that.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: addy on July 08, 2011, 12:19:49 PM
WBA Mad are going to have some egg on their faces, not surprised there sites are usually empty when they just assume stuff like that.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Pistol Pete on July 08, 2011, 12:22:37 PM
It's an assumption yeah, I made the same one in fairness but they shouldn't post it as if fact. Saying that I wish it were a fact...
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: DudleyDan on July 08, 2011, 12:24:45 PM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Pistol Pete on July 08, 2011, 12:27:31 PM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: JDWest_Brom on July 08, 2011, 12:39:29 PM
If this tranfer fee goes through (which I think is highly unlikely) I can see it being a year long loan tied in to a permanent deal at the end, like we do when we get rid of players. Probably with a clause in it on our side that if he get's injured we don't have to sign him after a year. With the fee being undisclosed as per usual. Maybe like people have suggested with a player or two going the opposite way.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: beechyboy90 on July 08, 2011, 12:45:00 PM
I personally don't think Foster is any better than Carson was....

hes a far better keeper!
hence why he is going to cost someone be it Albion or any other club alot of money!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Baggie Artist on July 08, 2011, 12:47:42 PM
If he doesn't go to us I think he'll stay at Birmingham, most PL teams are sorted for keepers now.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: tuamigos on July 08, 2011, 12:51:34 PM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Northfield-Baggie on July 08, 2011, 12:57:24 PM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Hayward1984 on July 08, 2011, 12:58:26 PM
Doubt the accuracy of that personally.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: addy on July 08, 2011, 12:59:00 PM
Doubt the accuracy of that personally.

I think its name sums it up, WBA & Mad.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Dan on July 08, 2011, 12:59:33 PM
They're just adding 2 and 2 and getting -697583727 from the CL tweet earlier. That and generating hits for their website, seemingly successfully.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: B_H_Baggie on July 08, 2011, 01:00:38 PM
Discussed on the previous page, it is a ridiculous piece put together by someone who has made a couple of massive assumptions based on very little information. 
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: AidantheBaggies on July 08, 2011, 01:02:46 PM
I cant see him coming to us anyway, one i dont think we would pay the fee Blues want for him and 2, he earns big wages.

I am still convinced we will Sign Rob Green.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: leeiswba on July 08, 2011, 01:03:44 PM
How ridiculous is that! Tom Ross has confirmed its a press conference for Mcauley and Jones.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: DudleyDan on July 08, 2011, 01:09:23 PM
I can't agree with that  :o Football transfer fees do not work like that and Foster was Blues' player of the season and fan's goal keeper of the season over Joe Hart. Foster saved Blues a disgusting number of points last season!

He was still a goalkeeper of a relegated team so he can't be all that great especially playing behind the "great" Roger Johnson and Scott Dann...

In the two games we played against them (and scoring 6 goals) I can't remember him making a save of any note.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: dinkydave2003 on July 08, 2011, 01:11:31 PM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Mossi28 on July 08, 2011, 01:11:52 PM
He was still a goalkeeper of a relegated team so he can't be all that great especially playing behind the "great" Roger Johnson and Scott Dann...

In the two games we played against them (and scoring 6 goals) I can't remember him making a save of any note.
I don't believe that blues got relegated last season because of their defence I think the reason that they actually went down was the lack of goals and Mcleish playing 4-5-1 with Jerome up front every week
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: monkey nuts on July 08, 2011, 01:12:55 PM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: B_H_Baggie on July 08, 2011, 01:14:06 PM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: dinkydave2003 on July 08, 2011, 01:15:49 PM
because we did to use the funds for Vaughan to pay the extra needed for a good keeper and striker

i dont buy that sorry, we pulled out of the vaughn deal to save face.
if we knew we were needing a GK / Striker why even look at vaughn in the first place??
vaughn was costing us nothing other than a signing on fee and wages
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Northfield-Baggie on July 08, 2011, 01:16:52 PM
Truth is, noone knows what money has been put where for signings. We will just have to wait and see  :P
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: dinkydave2003 on July 08, 2011, 01:19:51 PM
The money that we would have used on him gets put towards a deal for Foster instead, that part is believable but the majority of it is pure tripe.

we were still in for vaughan when we offered 3m and 40k a week for shay given!!
we were willing to offer 4m for boeteng
the vaughan thing is nothing to do with any potential transfer for foster, the money is there
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: monkey nuts on July 08, 2011, 01:23:33 PM
we were still in for vaughan when we offered 3m and 40k a week for shay given!!
we were willing to offer 4m for boeteng
the vaughan thing is nothing to do with any potential transfer for foster, the money is there
the point is Foster may cost us 6mill and 40k per week so the extra 3mill which would have been used on Vaughan can go to the Foster package

and it was only paper talk about Boetang nothing more
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Northfield-Baggie on July 08, 2011, 01:24:28 PM
Don't forget the Valero money too.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: B_H_Baggie on July 08, 2011, 01:26:00 PM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: B_H_Baggie on July 08, 2011, 01:26:24 PM
Don't forget the Valero money too.

The Valero money will most likely have been accounted for.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: tucka9 on July 08, 2011, 01:33:27 PM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Mulumbu99 on July 08, 2011, 01:36:04 PM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Dan on July 08, 2011, 01:40:52 PM
I doubt it to be honest, part exchanges usually signify them being made up. How many players do you see sell for part exchange at all, let alone us. Its something that happens very rarely but is heavily rumoured a lot.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: BAGGIES4LIFE on July 08, 2011, 01:51:02 PM
What gets me is - are we really having a press conference to unveil 2 freebie chamionship players who signed a month ago??? - OK if we were Hereford United but.........
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: tuamigos on July 08, 2011, 01:51:40 PM
when is this press conference supposed to happen?
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Dan on July 08, 2011, 01:55:53 PM
What gets me is - are we really having a press conference to unveil 2 freebie chamionship players who signed a month ago??? - OK if we were Hereford United but.........

Pretty sure we (and any other club) have press conferences for any first team signings that would be made.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: 15.SUPERJOE on July 08, 2011, 01:57:57 PM
If this tranfer fee goes through (which I think is highly unlikely) I can see it being a year long loan tied in to a permanent deal at the end, like we do when we get rid of players. Probably with a clause in it on our side that if he get's injured we don't have to sign him after a year. With the fee being undisclosed as per usual. Maybe like people have suggested with a player or two going the opposite way.

It is looking likelier..
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Kicking Pigeons on July 08, 2011, 01:59:59 PM
What gets me is - are we really having a press conference to unveil 2 freebie chamionship players who signed a month ago??? - OK if we were Hereford United but.........
It's also the official launch of the Bodog sponsorship deal which I think is the main purpose of it.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: JDWest_Brom on July 08, 2011, 02:04:15 PM
It is looking likelier..

According to whom?
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: addy on July 08, 2011, 02:06:01 PM
I cant see him coming to us anyway, one i dont think we would pay the fee Blues want for him and 2, he earns big wages.

I am still convinced we will Sign Rob Green.

I wouldn't rule it out.

Fee? Its been said that we are willing to spend decently on the GK place and are serious about getting a decent one in. Not to mention the closer August 31st gets the lower the fee Birmingham will demand ( I hope it doesn't get that far however ).

Wages? Not sure, considering we tried to get Shay Given I cant see wages will be much of an issue, he would be on a lot more than Foster, and if he was actually considered then I am pretty sure we would be able to afford Foster.

Foster also wants to stay in the Midlands, with Villa reportedly close to Given then wouldn't we be an ideal solution for him? Not to mention according to Dean Kiely they are "good friends".
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: BAGGIES4LIFE on July 08, 2011, 02:15:34 PM
Hope there is some truth in the Foster rumour, not just for us supporters but as a sign of the clubs ambition which would send the right signals to PO and Mulumbo
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Mister AT on July 08, 2011, 02:27:16 PM
Hope there is some truth in the Foster rumour, not just for us supporters but as a sign of the clubs ambition which would send the right signals to PO and Mulumbo

Will also send the right signals to Mulumbu :)
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: BaggieBoiJono on July 08, 2011, 02:46:35 PM
This is the kind of " moving forward " signing we need to be making. I just really believe there is another premier league club which will want him, and in that case we have no chance.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Savvas78 on July 08, 2011, 02:53:46 PM
Quote
This is the kind of " moving forward " signing we need to be making. I just really believe there is another premier league club which will want him, and in that case we have no chance.

Foster would prefer to stay in the West Midlands where he is settled. I'm not saying he wouldn't commute to another club, but our location does make us a more attractive proposition than you'd think.

Then there's the small hurdle of agreeing a transfer fee and wages!!  :-X
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: WBArgo on July 08, 2011, 09:59:39 PM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Umpshire Baggie on July 08, 2011, 10:14:43 PM
was set to be unveiled today according to this site http://www.football.co.uk/west_bromwich_albion/albion_set_to_unveil_foster_and_gera_rss1712437.shtml


make of it what you will  :-\
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Barrington on July 08, 2011, 10:17:02 PM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: B_H_Baggie on July 08, 2011, 10:18:59 PM
was set to be unveiled today according to this site http://www.football.co.uk/west_bromwich_albion/albion_set_to_unveil_foster_and_gera_rss1712437.shtml


make of it what you will  :-\

It was on WBA mad mate, they jumped to conclusions when CL went on twitter this morning to say he was going to the press conference for our two new signings with him meaning McAuley and Jones. Just a massive assumption that they printed and in all honesty they should be ashamed of posting it online.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Umpshire Baggie on July 08, 2011, 10:21:01 PM
It was on WBA mad mate, they jumped to conclusions when CL went on twitter this morning to say he was going to the press conference for our two new signings with him meaning McAuley and Jones. Just a massive assumption that they printed and in all honesty they should be ashamed of posting it online.

awwww got me going that one lol thanks for putting me straight  :D
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: SuperDorrans on July 08, 2011, 10:21:57 PM
No way this will happen.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: B_H_Baggie on July 08, 2011, 10:22:50 PM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Barrington on July 08, 2011, 10:24:34 PM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: B_H_Baggie on July 08, 2011, 10:25:53 PM
No way this will happen.

Well you best get in touch with Ashworth and Hodgson then to let them know, no point in wasting any more of our time.

I don't see why we can't push the boat out for the right player in the right position after adding a couple of free transfers and with the manager saying he only wants two or three more players to add to the squad Foster certainly fits that description.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: costa blanca baggie on July 08, 2011, 10:32:03 PM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Baggie Artist on July 08, 2011, 10:41:07 PM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: SuperDorrans on July 08, 2011, 10:57:12 PM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: B_H_Baggie on July 08, 2011, 11:03:06 PM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: TAFKATMNo1Fan on July 09, 2011, 08:36:10 AM
Is Foster that good? I genuinly haven't seen enough of him all I've seen is what I've seen of him on tv and against us have had lots of good things about him though and if Roy thinks he's the one then that's good enough for me
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: duncan on July 09, 2011, 08:39:10 AM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: South West Steve on July 09, 2011, 08:52:59 AM
My in-laws (all Blues season ticket holders) say he's good - very occasional errors but don't they all do even Hart - and they'd have been in far worse position (not quite sure what's worse than getting relegated!) and still young enough to become a serious contender to be England No.1 if he was in a good team. they said year on year he was as good as Hart the year before, their problem was scoring goals not keeping them out really.

I'd take him as part of the spine of the team we should be looking to build stability around for the next five years plus. Given or Fridel would only give you say three years?
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Cunningham on July 09, 2011, 09:49:11 AM
Foster is without doubt better than Carson and Myhill so it gets a thumbs up from me.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Baggies on July 09, 2011, 11:11:43 AM
Is Foster that good? I genuinly haven't seen enough of him all I've seen is what I've seen of him on tv and against us have had lots of good things about him though and if Roy thinks he's the one then that's good enough for me

He made a few mistakes last season but crucialy, he will also make a lot of good saves and can win you points. He is a crowd pleasing keeper and id certainly be happy with him.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: lordbaggie on July 09, 2011, 12:41:05 PM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: jonny on July 09, 2011, 01:03:57 PM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: crazedwbafan18 on July 09, 2011, 01:06:25 PM
Thats what im worried about.

Like selling Pete and signing Marlon Harewood
and green is that bad? Whenever i saw him in action last season i could see he gave it a good go. He may have started off the season a little nervous but with time he produced some spectacular saves and a few times kept WHU in the match. I certainly wouldnt sniff at Green joining us.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Baggies on July 09, 2011, 01:25:28 PM
Id perfer Foster to Green, but if there is a big price difference I can understand us going for the latter. Green makes more mistakes than any keeper around nowadays but he kept his place in the West ham side last year because he laso makes a number of great saves and there were lots of games for West ham last season where he kept scores down due to inspired goalkeeping. Not sure if he is the right fit for us now im not sure but he isnt awful.

Hopefully we can get Blues to budge on Foster though. With other keepers around like Given I think we will have a good chance but it depends iof Blues want silly money. I wouldnt go past 5 million and I doubt the club will either.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: smosher34 on July 09, 2011, 01:27:53 PM
i would take either one of them , its a must we get a good keeper in , anything with foster his is injurys .
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: popbaggie28 on July 09, 2011, 01:33:24 PM
Foster for me all the way.....Green is a good shot stopper but i can just see him being similar to Carson and looking Solid then make a stupid mistake or let in a saft goal!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: jamieee on July 10, 2011, 12:50:39 PM
Won't come
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: WBAinDEVON on July 10, 2011, 12:52:00 PM
Won't come


Oh i forgot your ITK
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: BaggieBirdRus on July 10, 2011, 12:52:50 PM
Won't come

How do you know this? Yeah, exactly you don't.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: BaggieBoiJono on July 10, 2011, 01:03:02 PM
somebody else in the premier league will want him, meaning we have no change.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: B_H_Baggie on July 10, 2011, 01:07:57 PM
somebody else in the premier league will want him, meaning we have no change.

What clubs need a first choice keeper in the Premier League right now with Villa looking extremely likely to sign Given?
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Lloydy on July 10, 2011, 01:11:22 PM
What clubs need a first choice keeper in the Premier League right now with Villa looking extremely likely to sign Given?

Not to mention the fact that Foster wants to stay at his home in Leamington. Geographically we have the edge over everyone else.

If we can meet Birmingham's valuation of Foster, which could possibly take some time I would imagine, we will get him.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: B_H_Baggie on July 10, 2011, 01:16:53 PM
That is the way I see it, whether we can negotiate a deal is anyones guess though.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: 15.SUPERJOE on July 10, 2011, 01:29:21 PM
Won't come

I love your confidence.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Kicking Pigeons on July 10, 2011, 01:39:46 PM
somebody else in the premier league will want him, meaning we have no change.
I hate having no change. Always have to break into a note every time I need to catch the bus. Very annoying.

So... who else has been linked with Foster? Apart from Villa who are now set to sign Given? Also what other teams in the division need a new first choice keeper?

Arsenal - maybe, but they'd probably be aiming higher than Foster
Villa - would've been in for him but it looks like they'll be signing Given soon
Blackburn - no, they have Robinson
Bolton - unlikely with Jaaskelinen and Bogdan on their books
Chelsea - no
Everton - no
Fulham - unlikely since they have Schwarzer and Stockdale
Liverpool - no
Newcastle - unlikely since they have Krul, Harper and Forster who are all highly rated in the club
Man City - no
Man United - no
Norwich - maybe, but we shouldn't lose out to them
QPR - see Norwich
Stoke - unlikely since they have Begovic and Sorensen
Sunderland - no, just signed Westwood, also have Gordon and Mignolet
Swansea - see Norwich
Spurs - unlikely since they just signed Friedel
Wigan - no, just signed Al-Habsi
Wolves - maybe, depends on whether Mad Mick still rates Hennessey

A quick look at the PL squad lists shows that the only Premier League teams that realistically could be in for him apart from us are the three promoted sides and maybe Wolves. If we have no chance competing with three promoted teams and Wolves then we might as well give up now.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Baggie Artist on July 10, 2011, 01:50:32 PM
Wolves have De Vries and Hennessey, Swansea brought in a keeper from Benfica yesterday and QPR are happy with Kenny.

We're the only club that will come in for Foster unless Villa miss out on Given or Spurs sell Gomes
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Kicking Pigeons on July 10, 2011, 02:08:02 PM
Wolves have De Vries and Hennessey, Swansea brought in a keeper from Benfica yesterday and QPR are happy with Kenny.

We're the only club that will come in for Foster unless Villa miss out on Given or Spurs sell Gomes
Oh yeah completely forgot about De Vries and Swansea's new keeper, that virtually rules them out as well. Don't think Spurs will come into it, Friedel was brought in as their first choice and even if they do get rid of Gomes they still have Cudicini.

We just better hope Norwich don't take an interest because they'll surely get him since we have no chance of getting him if another Premier League club wants him!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: lordbaggie on July 10, 2011, 03:33:02 PM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: zippyandbungle on July 10, 2011, 03:36:41 PM
Think this could happen but ...
Vile will need to sign Given first , foster may be waiting to see if that happens before going and JP would be quite happy if that happened too , this would leave blues with an international keeper that they cant really afford to keep and however much they want there is a limit to what we would pay .
2 weeks from now he could be ours , around 4.5-5.5 plus add ons ...
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on July 10, 2011, 04:13:40 PM
I don't think Blues would even consider doing business with Villa no matter what Villa offered them.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Londonbaggymike on July 10, 2011, 04:23:36 PM
I don't think Blues would even consider doing business with Villa no matter what Villa offered them.

Normally I'd disagree with this as football is all about business these days but at the moment, after what happened with MacLeish, I think you might be right. Depends on how desperate their finances are.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: slate on July 10, 2011, 04:50:29 PM

Oh i forgot your ITK

As I said on page 5 of this thread, he will be signing for us. This is the first time and probably the last time that I am ITK. It'll probably be a loan rather than a full signing but barring a massive cockup he will be coming, and will be a fantastic signing in my opinion.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: WSBaggie on July 10, 2011, 04:50:58 PM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Hong Kong Phooey on July 10, 2011, 08:39:04 PM
They rate Foster between 6-8 million so they won't be getting rid of him for a penny less I'm afraid, they are clever and aren't going to be took to the cleaners for England's number 2 keeper.

So clever that their chairman and owner has had his assets frozen whilst being investigated for alleged money laundering.

This stance may well change once they realise PL wages and loans have to be paid.

Although out of our reach at this moment in time, Shay Given would have been my number one number one choice, but his qualities really merit him playing for one of the top eights PL teams (which sadly includes Villa)  :(

But for me, Ben Foster is definately the best of the rest and attainable, although we may have to play cat and mouse before it can happen, unless we have a change in policy and actually splash the cash  :o
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: AlbionBest on July 10, 2011, 09:20:29 PM
With the 'problems' the owner's having at present I wonder how that will affect transfers in and out of St Andrews - surely few clubs will deal with them if Blooze want to pay money for a player until the mess is cleared up one way or another. Also, who will sanction any outgoings etc ?
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: wba1993dave on July 11, 2011, 04:47:32 PM
People keep saying he will sign when Villa sign Given, why should that matter ? I wonder if we might have made a joint bid for Ridgewell and Foster who knows , going to be very interesting ;D
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: B_H_Baggie on July 11, 2011, 04:50:19 PM
People keep saying he will sign when Villa sign Given, why should that matter ? I wonder if we might have made a joint bid for Ridgewell and Foster who knows , going to be very interesting ;D

Can only assume people think Villa want Foster if they don't get Given so it would leave the path clear for us. Or perhaps we haven't even bid for either of them yet lol.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: zippyandbungle on July 11, 2011, 04:50:57 PM
People keep saying he will sign when Villa sign Given, why should that matter ? I wonder if we might have made a joint bid for Ridgewell and Foster who knows , going to be very interesting ;D
Matters because like it or not players see them as a bigger club.
Foster could go to them because they need a keeper and he's local etc but if they sign given (as expected) then his options narrow and we should confirm..
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: dangerman on July 11, 2011, 04:51:23 PM
People keep saying he will sign when Villa sign Given, why should that matter ? I wonder if we might have made a joint bid for Ridgewell and Foster who knows , going to be very interesting ;D

I've just tweeted the exact same thing. As someone suggested, maybe Foster is Villa's first choice. Just be our luck wouldn't it after Given said he'd rather go to Villa. lol
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: wba1993dave on July 11, 2011, 06:15:47 PM
Some tweets going round that we have bid for Foster.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: wba1968-Tim on July 12, 2011, 12:01:44 PM
Still odds on to join us
Shy Bet 1/3
he was 1/4 last week
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: DudleyBaggieFan on July 13, 2011, 03:42:03 PM
Needs to hurry up and sign if he is to fly to USA to team! Lol!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: tuamigos on July 13, 2011, 04:23:21 PM
I cant see us paying what blues want for him, maybe JP's legendary negotiating skills will come to the fore now?
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: DudleyBaggieFan on July 13, 2011, 04:56:56 PM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Baggie Artist on July 13, 2011, 05:20:40 PM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: DudleyBaggieFan on July 13, 2011, 05:23:20 PM
Can't remember :-D but I know it's been done.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: B_H_Baggie on July 13, 2011, 05:27:55 PM
We have done it when selling our players but I can't remember us ever doing it for anyone we have signed.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: KingKoren on July 13, 2011, 05:31:52 PM
We have done it when selling our players but I can't remember us ever doing it for anyone we have signed.

Bednar,Miller,Tamas?
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: DudleyDan on July 13, 2011, 05:34:36 PM
Bednar,Miller,Tamas?

And dare I mention...Luke Moore?
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: B_H_Baggie on July 13, 2011, 05:35:18 PM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: The Joust on July 13, 2011, 05:41:11 PM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: B_H_Baggie on July 13, 2011, 05:42:52 PM
It wasn't a binding deal to become permanent like the other two may have been but either way can we get back to talk of Foster in particular now.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: baggieboyjop on July 13, 2011, 05:43:22 PM
You sure? I thought we had him on loan for a season first then signed him the following?

We did have him on loan and then sign him but i'm not that sure it was part of the original deal. I think it was two separate ones i think
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: SteelBaggie on July 13, 2011, 06:02:06 PM
Foster's one of Blues best players like Dann and Johnson. They won't sell Dann for a penny less than 12 million which is what he's worth to them and Johnson won't go for a penny less than 10 million. They rate Foster between 6-8 million so they won't be getting rid of him for a penny less I'm afraid, they are clever and aren't going to be took to the cleaners for England's number 2 keeper.

Nobody is immune to a decent bid.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: alex1 on July 13, 2011, 06:12:59 PM
Hope we go for Foster. I think he's a better and more consistent keeper than Carson and he's from the West Midlands.
Maybe to help reduce the fee, we could do a part exchange.  Blues certainly have a few gaps in their squad.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: WBArgo on July 13, 2011, 06:15:27 PM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: DudleyBaggieFan on July 13, 2011, 06:18:38 PM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on July 13, 2011, 06:20:50 PM
In my opinion, it depends how desperate Birmingham City are financially, I too was a little shocked to see Roger Johnson leave for Wolves at that price but maybe their worries are worse than first feared. If Ben Foster is our number one target, which is still possible at the moment, I'd look to play hard ball with Birmingham in lowering the asking price. If the Blues board are sticking to their guns then I don't see no reason as to why we couldn't send one or two players in their direction. There could possibly be a learning curve in there for Luke Daniels and possibly one or two others, be that on loan or permanently.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: WBArgo on July 13, 2011, 09:04:39 PM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: smethwickw on July 13, 2011, 09:07:57 PM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: cads_ap_albion on July 13, 2011, 09:15:37 PM
we're getting green..... forget foster.  green = cheaper option.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: costa blanca baggie on July 13, 2011, 10:17:06 PM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: OldburyWBA on July 14, 2011, 12:19:57 AM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: lordbaggie on July 14, 2011, 12:30:53 AM
You sure? I thought we had him on loan for a season first then signed him the following?

Miller was a loan with an OPTION to purchase at a pre agreed price (therefore not a binding agreement to buy)

I think this was also true for the Bednar and Tamas purchases.

Whereas the Moore purchase and the sales of PIG, Greening and Valero were binding.

Allegedly  :D
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: dinkydave2003 on July 14, 2011, 08:34:20 AM
so the money we 'saved' from walking away from vaughan to help fund the foster has been put to good use!!!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: JDWest_Brom on July 14, 2011, 08:53:17 AM
Surprise Surprise! Ben Foster is too expensive according to CL. I could have told you that months ago.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Savvas78 on July 14, 2011, 08:58:15 AM
Too expensive? The usual posturing by selling and buying clubs if you ask me. This one could drag ooooon!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: JDWest_Brom on July 14, 2011, 09:06:34 AM
Too expensive? The usual posturing by selling and buying clubs if you ask me. This one could drag ooooon!

Not with a cheaper option still available in Green.

Aren't Villa on the verge of signing Given?
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Kicking Pigeons on July 14, 2011, 09:09:49 AM
so the money we 'saved' from walking away from vaughan to help fund the foster has been put to good use!!!
I think that was little more than a rumour/presumption. I'm pretty sure we pulled out of the Vaughan signing because he demanded a guarantee of being in the starting 11 every week.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: dinkydave2003 on July 14, 2011, 09:58:45 AM
I think that was little more than a rumour/presumption. I'm pretty sure we pulled out of the Vaughan signing because he demanded a guarantee of being in the starting 11 every week.
not according to people on here!! the money was to be used to fund the foster transfer / wages etc apparently!!
fact of the matter is the vaughan deal breaking down had nothing to do with foster transfer.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: dinkydave2003 on July 14, 2011, 10:01:51 AM
As I said on page 5 of this thread, he will be signing for us. This is the first time and probably the last time that I am ITK. It'll probably be a loan rather than a full signing but barring a massive cockup he will be coming, and will be a fantastic signing in my opinion.

you still certain about this one??
not having a go, just you seemed pretty certain. wondered if you'd heard anything from your source?
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: beechyboy90 on July 14, 2011, 10:44:40 AM
as much as i would like WBA to play hard ball and wait longer for the price to drop its a risky game!

firstly we dont want someone else to snap him up, & secondly we need a keeper asap and if this deal doesnt materialise we dont want to be stuck with what weve got
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: tuamigos on July 14, 2011, 11:18:47 AM
You can see the search for a keeper at the right price going to the wire, the longer blues have Foster the lower his price will drop
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Zebidee on July 14, 2011, 11:27:36 AM
Longer we wait to try get foster cheaper.. The more chance we got of losing green to another team and also maybe losing out on both then... And we don't want that :(
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: WorcsWBA on July 14, 2011, 11:54:57 AM
as much as i would like WBA to play hard ball and wait longer for the price to drop its a risky game!

firstly we dont want someone else to snap him up, & secondly we need a keeper asap and if this deal doesnt materialise we dont want to be stuck with what weve got

Good points - it doesn't seem like it's the case that we can't afford Foster but that we're not willing to pay what Blues want for him. Obviously they regard signing someone now (Green) as more important than waiting a couple of weeks for Foster's price to come down. How much will it come down in a couple of weeks though, you have to wonder?
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: beechyboy90 on July 14, 2011, 11:57:02 AM
not dramaticly! the window doesnt shut to the end of august so they wont start panicking and dropping the price til early august i guess!

id be happy enough with green hes still a step up from carson and myhill!

plus if that frees funds for a striker and another centre back all is fine with me
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: WSBaggie on July 14, 2011, 12:06:33 PM
Unless we are keeping this quiet I'm amazed we still haven't put a bid in for him, A great goalkeeper who without a doubt would be an improvement on what we've had in previous seasons. I'm worried that if we play hard ball with the asking price then we are going to miss out on him. We should be striving to sign the best players that are available to strengthen and I don't think a player can be much more available than when he has been relegated with a team.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Mooncat on July 14, 2011, 01:26:39 PM
I still think the best optin for all parties would be a season long loan deal with Myhill going the other way as part of the package.
Blues then have the option of him returning next year should they get promoted.
Foster is still playing in the Prem should he decide to come out of international retirement, and his form warrants selection.
We don't end up massively out of pocket and can sign a more experienced keeper (like Macho) as backup.

There don't seem to be many clubs lining up to take him so if that eased their wage bill for the year I think they'd certainly consider it
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Jeremy Roland Peace on July 14, 2011, 01:29:20 PM
why would Blues lower the asking price on Foster.

they've just sold Johnson for 7million, Dann looks like he is going for even more money than that and Zigic will probably be sold because of his high wages.

if anything the further into the transfer window it goes the price will stay the same or go up
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Baggie Artist on July 14, 2011, 01:39:56 PM
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Post by: Axel Foley on July 14, 2011, 01:45:45 PM
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Post by: geoff on July 14, 2011, 01:57:03 PM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: dangerman on July 14, 2011, 01:58:57 PM
I am hoping that all the noises about Green are to force Blues hand a little bit with the asking price of foster. I highly doubt it but a man can hope :)
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Axel Foley on July 14, 2011, 02:07:35 PM
They also let Foster go & kept the pig so there for in sir AF eyes the pig must have been the better keeper.

Not really, Sir Alex might have felt that Foster at the time would've been a lot unhappier than PIG to sit on the bench.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: geoff on July 14, 2011, 02:27:50 PM
Not really, Sir Alex might have felt that Foster at the time would've been a lot unhappier than PIG to sit on the bench.


Sir Alex is use to pondering to the whims of young primadonna's handling Foster should not have troubled Sir Alex to much.
I'm sure the offer of No1 at man u 2/3 years down the line to a 20 year old keeper would have been enough.
Nar he thought the pig was a better keeper full stop.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Axel Foley on July 14, 2011, 03:04:48 PM
Foster would have been about 24 at the time he was sold, so no assurance would have been able to keep him in my opinion. There is no such thing as assurances  ;)
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Perrybarrbaggy on July 14, 2011, 08:15:47 PM
Van der sar was the established number 1, as long as he wanted to play, he'd have been number 1


Ben foster said he was considering his future if he couldnt get the number 1 shirt, PIG never said anything, so 1 was happy tk be understudy, 1 wanted to be playing games

I also remember fergie was mad at some statements foster made about sitting on the bench

Foster wasnt always the fittest either, so possibly there were doubt about his ability to play 38 games


Foster is the much better keeper than pig ..
Pig hasnt really developed, due to play very few games in 4 years
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: B_H_Baggie on July 14, 2011, 08:31:29 PM
PIG complained a few times about his lack of first team opportunities at United he just never did anything about it or he never got anyone to make a move for him.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Perrybarrbaggy on July 14, 2011, 11:18:07 PM
PIG complained a few times about his lack of first team opportunities at United he just never did anything about it or he never got anyone to make a move for him.


I dont think i ever saw a club want pig

But foster was wanted by villa and spurs which had fergie tell the press he wasnt for sale
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: DudleyBaggieFan on July 19, 2011, 10:54:27 AM
I get a sneaky feeling this is back on the cards due to given going to villa.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: baggie steve on July 19, 2011, 10:56:33 AM
I do think Foster is a better keeper given the choice of the two.
Id also consider Lee Camp too
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Mister AT on July 19, 2011, 11:59:45 AM
On form i dont think theres much difference between PIG and Foster. However based on performances over the last  2 years theres only one winner....
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on July 19, 2011, 12:54:20 PM
I get a sneaky feeling this is back on the cards due to given going to villa.

In my opinion that was never a problem in the first place.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Mike on July 19, 2011, 12:59:09 PM
Cant see how this transfer is possible given the size of the fee and his injury problems.  We will not pay 7+million for someone with injury concerns.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: bradleysrocket on July 19, 2011, 01:00:27 PM
Cant see how this transfer is possible given the size of the fee and his injury problems.  We will not pay 7+million for someone with injury concerns.
I know he's had issues but he played almost every minute of every game last season.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: wba1993dave on July 19, 2011, 01:02:52 PM
Everything has gone quiet on Robert Green  , so maybe we decided not to opt for green, and wait a bit for Foster perhaps , i think things will start to pick up soon .
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Andio on July 19, 2011, 07:55:10 PM
i think things will start to pick up soon .
Lets hope our new goalkeeper can do this  ;D
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: BaggieBirdRus on July 19, 2011, 08:06:03 PM
Lets hope our new goalkeeper can do this  ;D

Hopefully not out of our own net!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: reis wbafc patel on July 19, 2011, 09:20:08 PM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: WSBaggie on July 19, 2011, 10:59:50 PM
Take Joe Hart from the scene and Foster would be England's number one. We should break the bank for this guy and I really hope we do.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: j_dog_1980 on July 19, 2011, 11:06:59 PM
Endless amounts of names been linked and have to agree with some posts, that seeing Given go to Villa, the Foster deal could be back on!

6-7 million will be a massive amount of money to pay out for West Brom but were a club on the up and these transfer fees will and have to be paid eventually if we want to mintain our growth! Go get him Mr P!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: WBArgo on July 19, 2011, 11:30:18 PM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: alex1 on July 19, 2011, 11:50:21 PM
I seriously hope Albion go in for Foster .  He will come with a price tag, but Blues also have some re-building to do and we could offset part of the transfer fee with say Miller, Fortune, Mattock in part exchange. That would also reduce our wage bill.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: KnaveofAlbion on July 20, 2011, 12:45:03 AM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Baggie Artist on July 20, 2011, 01:08:29 AM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: IGGYBLUE on July 20, 2011, 07:43:46 AM
IF we paid the asking price of 8mill then it would make him the 5TH most expensive goal keepers in the world

http://www.cricbeat.com/2011/06/most-expensive-goalkeepers-ever.html

I think 6 mil might still get him in the top 10.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: wbastrollers on July 20, 2011, 09:45:09 AM
Like others I think Foster is superior to Green,however, is it not a little worrying that Mcleish has gone for Given rather than Foster, whom he knows well?!!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: B_H_Baggie on July 20, 2011, 09:58:45 AM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Wbahunty on July 20, 2011, 10:00:52 AM
Foster has a dogdy shoulder...so maybe the ex blues manager knows whats about to happen!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: B_H_Baggie on July 20, 2011, 10:02:33 AM
Foster has a dogdy shoulder...so maybe the ex blues manager knows whats about to happen!

Some say that Given has a dodgy shoulder too but it didn't stop Villa giving him a 5 year contract. Anyone we get will go through a strict medical so any issues will be flagged up there.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Wbahunty on July 20, 2011, 10:06:49 AM
Some say that Given has a dodgy shoulder too but it didn't stop Villa giving him a 5 year contract. Anyone we get will go through a strict medical so any issues will be flagged up there.

Very true! We need to sign two players just to keep us happy. People say be patiant but its fustrating.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: lordbaggie on July 20, 2011, 10:47:26 AM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: PsalmXXIII on July 20, 2011, 11:08:34 AM
Like others I think Foster is superior to Green,however, is it not a little worrying that Mcleish has gone for Given rather than Foster, whom he knows well?!!

Or that Given is better than Foster, and cheaper?
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: DudleyBaggieFan on July 20, 2011, 11:17:57 AM
Or that Given is better than Foster, and cheaper?

Or maybe the relations he had at blues went tits up when he left for vile so he didn't want to associate with blues or any of their players?
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: astle68 on July 20, 2011, 11:19:08 AM
We've got more chance of signing Jodie Foster
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: wba1968-Tim on July 20, 2011, 11:23:47 AM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: matth on July 20, 2011, 10:49:08 PM
Sounds like our kind of deal

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2017010/Ben-Foster-1m-hire.html?
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: KingKoren on July 20, 2011, 10:52:17 PM
Sounds like our kind of deal

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2017010/Ben-Foster-1m-hire.html?

Sounds a decent deal to me - get him Jezza. Would be annoyed if I was Foster though.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Baggie Artist on July 20, 2011, 11:11:59 PM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: addy on July 20, 2011, 11:14:58 PM
If he has a stormer with us next season and loves it here and Birmingham win promotion I would be gutted... I hope we can just get him perm or loan with view to perm.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: bigbadjohn on July 20, 2011, 11:42:51 PM
So 1 mill now then 3 mill next season !
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Dan on July 20, 2011, 11:44:00 PM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: B_H_Baggie on July 20, 2011, 11:56:06 PM
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Post by: B_H_Baggie on July 20, 2011, 11:58:13 PM
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Post by: WBASPE77 on July 20, 2011, 11:58:34 PM
I really hope we get him on a permenant, he would be a great signing for us.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Baggie Artist on July 21, 2011, 12:00:21 AM
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Post by: Standaman on July 21, 2011, 12:43:00 AM
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Post by: WBArgo on July 21, 2011, 12:56:35 AM
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Post by: lordbaggie on July 21, 2011, 01:14:30 AM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: WBArgo on July 21, 2011, 01:16:49 AM
Completely agree Lord Baggie!

The deal makes sense for the two clubs and player, so everyone should be behind it. It's only if some individuals try altering things could this deal go wrong. How reliable is the story/paper reporting this anyway?
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: DudleyBaggieFan on July 21, 2011, 03:45:35 AM
I think I suggested a loan to perm deal :-D. If this story is correct then we need to snap him up ASAP!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Dale on July 21, 2011, 07:59:12 AM
If this is true then it's a win win sitatuion in my view because I really can't see Blues going back up the way they are dismantling their squad and not replacing it with quality.

I would be more than delighted with this deal. Plus it would free up cash for other targets such as Shane Long possibly?
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Sussex-Baggie on July 21, 2011, 09:59:26 AM
Someone has said on Twitter this morning that apparently Beacon Radio mentioned that Ben Foster was/is at our training ground?!

Not sure how much truth there is in this, but I wouldn't be too surprised if the potential opportunity to sign him on loan has led to the club attempting to act quickly in a bid to try and get this deal sorted.

I think it is worth a gamble signing him on loan with a view to a permanent deal if Birmingham City fail to get promoted, as I think they will struggle to compete at the top end of The Championship next season with all the players they look set to lose.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: WBAinDEVON on July 21, 2011, 10:02:21 AM
Imagine the outrage if he went to Swansea
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: wba1993dave on July 21, 2011, 10:05:53 AM
I doubt he would pick Swansea over us, We are near his home and most likely wants to stay in the area and settle down, sides we are bigger than Swansea ;D
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: nick_wba on July 21, 2011, 10:26:13 AM
He'd have no reason to be at our training ground, everyone is in the States bar Ashworth (who is usually doing the rounds around the UK) and Peace. I'd take that rumour with a pinch of salt to be honest however much I'd love for it to be true!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: bigbadjohn on July 21, 2011, 10:28:48 AM
Hes been at our training ground ? how do you know ? ITK ?
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Wbahunty on July 21, 2011, 10:31:03 AM
I would like to see this happen sooner rather than later! Hes missed the tour of USA and will have missed some bonding time!

Getting anoyed that we dont just go and do the deal!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: JDWest_Brom on July 21, 2011, 10:32:07 AM
There's quite a few mentions of it on Twitter. Where's CL when you need him to dispell rumours? Oh yeah, on holiday.

Funny tweet from a Blues fan: Cash Converters are set to be the Birmingham City sponsor in a deal that will see Cash Converters hold on to Ben Foster for a year for them.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: B_H_Baggie on July 21, 2011, 10:43:03 AM
He'd have no reason to be at our training ground, everyone is in the States bar Ashworth (who is usually doing the rounds around the UK) and Peace. I'd take that rumour with a pinch of salt to be honest however much I'd love for it to be true!

As much as I don't actually believe the rumour that he has been or is at the training ground that is where discussions are usually held with players and it is the likes of Ashworth that are heavily involved in those and that isn't to mention any kind of medical tests we do there so it would be feasible even with everyone else in the States.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: JDWest_Brom on July 21, 2011, 10:55:28 AM
Exactly. The two people who are responsible for transfers Peace and Ashworth aren't in the States. So stands a chance that it could happen.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: DudleyBaggieFan on July 21, 2011, 11:37:51 AM
Looks like we are the only viable option for foster as Swansea have made an improved offer for stockdale
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Dan on July 21, 2011, 11:49:50 AM
That is of course if that article is true, I think the daily mail article is the only source so far saying they actively want rid of him.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: WBArgo on July 21, 2011, 12:19:40 PM
Dan, apparently it was reported in the Guardian too which is obviously a bit more reliable.

I really hope we can pull this off.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: addy on July 21, 2011, 12:24:28 PM
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Post by: Wbahunty on July 21, 2011, 12:26:02 PM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: B_H_Baggie on July 21, 2011, 12:27:11 PM
About to post the same thing! Monday he will sign hopefully. He will be in talks today and tomorrow, meet Roy if he comes back and then sign!

Please try not to get ahead of yourself, you are making massive assumptions there.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Dan on July 21, 2011, 12:33:47 PM
I have to say i'm very surprised they appear to be happy to release him on loan, with Leicester and West Ham its going to be very difficult to get automatic promotion. Not too mention if they get in the group stage of the europa league there's going to be tremendous stress on the squad, and they've already lost quiet a few players with uninspiring replacements.

Just seems a massive risk to take given at this moment in time you'd have to say its increasingly unlikely they'll get promoted, surely they'd be better off just selling him straight off. If he gets a terrible injury for example they're going to be stuck with him on the wage bill.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: DudleyBaggieFan on July 21, 2011, 12:36:14 PM
Please try not to get ahead of yourself, you are making massive assumptions there.

Why wait til Monday. I'm sure roy will trust JP and DA and he will be signed by 5pm today ;D :P
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Wbahunty on July 21, 2011, 12:40:41 PM
Please try not to get ahead of yourself, you are making massive assumptions there.

Once again Shot Down by the Admin!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: dangerman on July 21, 2011, 12:49:01 PM
Once again Shot Down by the Admin!

I don't think it's that mate.

I just think they don't want people getting excited too early especially when there isn't any facts at the moment.

I wouldn't take it personally.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: B_H_Baggie on July 21, 2011, 12:50:13 PM
 ;D

Not attempting to shoot anyone down just trying to keep things realistic. Hodgson has admitted we have held talks about a move for him and with other stories I would guess things are relatively positive but I don't think its right to jump the gun on this one. Could be an interesting week coming up with the team returning from the USA.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on July 21, 2011, 12:50:27 PM
With how long it takes us to conclude our transfer business and actually get them confirmed as Albion players we'll be waiting another week an half. Seems to be we have plenty of red tape to sort!

Foster would appeal to me on a loan if its possible we can get him at a cheaper price the following season if Birmingham fail to get promotion at their first attempt. If they were to get promoted then, fair enough, he can go back to Birmingham and have ourselves searching for a new keeper.

As I said in the General Rumours thread, I'd like us to sign a keeper who we can have for a number of seasons and not have to keep chopping and changing.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Wbahunty on July 21, 2011, 12:52:14 PM
I don't think it's that mate.

I just think they don't want people getting excited too early especially when there isn't any facts at the moment.

I wouldn't take it personally.

I understand, but when you think that on the last day of the transfer window, Medicals and deals are done in the last 4 hours. Why should it take a long time!

My point is very vaild and yes hopefull and optemistic.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: dangerman on July 21, 2011, 12:55:33 PM
I understand, but when you think that on the last day of the transfer window, Medicals and deals are done in the last 4 hours. Why should it take a long time!

My point is very vaild and yes hopefull and optemistic.

Totally understand what you are saying.

I think there could be several reason holding it up,

1) there could be a double deal being done with Scot Dann  ;D
2) JP is playing hardball and is negotiating a better deal
3) Both Foster and Roy are waiting to meet each other before moving forward with a deal
4) There may not be a deal to be done and we are being let down gradually  :o

Personally I think it's a combination of 2 and 3.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Wbahunty on July 21, 2011, 01:02:04 PM
When players who come up for sale and to behonest 1million to loan foster for a season is a bargin with a view to sign has to be snaped up quickly in my opinion!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: B_H_Baggie on July 21, 2011, 01:04:18 PM
You don't know what we are doing about this potential deal though, you also don't know if that story about him being available on loan is true or not. Transfer deals aren't always as simple as the press make out.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Wbahunty on July 21, 2011, 01:07:03 PM
I belive everything that is on the interweb!  ??? lol

No i understand that it might not be true, but what if it is? Then going in quickly is the only thing to do! Dilly Dallying around will only mean we miss out!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: dangerman on July 21, 2011, 01:09:17 PM
When players who come up for sale and to behonest 1million to loan foster for a season is a bargin with a view to sign has to be snaped up quickly in my opinion!

In an ideal world yes.

But take the Foster transfer as an example. No-one else is reported to be interested. The longer it goes on the more tempted the Blues will be at accepting a lower offer for Foster meaning we may have more money to spend on other targets.

In regards to the reported loan, 1million is a lot to pay for a season especially when you think we maybe able to get him on a permanent deal for around 6mill maybe even less.

Sometimes there are times that need you to get in and make an offer (a bit like Wolves with Johnson) others where we need to wait, like this one and the Odemwingie deal last season.

Additionally, Roy may want a final say before finalising a deal and with him not back until the weekend it maybe that he wants to do his own talks (to get an idea of fosters personallity) before anything is agreed.

I understand what you're saying but we just need to be patient.

We can moan if we are in September with no new signings.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: smethwickw on July 21, 2011, 01:09:26 PM
He's also linked to Arsenal in one report. How feasible could this be considering they also desperately need a keeper. Arsene doesn't really like to splash the cash either.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: WBAinDEVON on July 21, 2011, 01:19:56 PM
He's also linked to Arsenal in one report. How feasible could this be considering they also desperately need a keeper. Arsene doesn't really like to splash the cash either.


Oh dear
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Wbahunty on July 21, 2011, 01:21:03 PM
My point of signing him up quickly seems to make sence!

Arsenal...West Brom...mmmm hard choice!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: B_H_Baggie on July 21, 2011, 01:23:02 PM
We have definitely held talks about signing him, is there anything to suggest that Arsenal have or are we just going by the newspapers assuming Arsenal have an interest in him?
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: The Joust on July 21, 2011, 01:24:33 PM
We have definitely held talks about signing him, is there anything to suggest that Arsenal have or are we just going by the newspapers assuming Arsenal have an interest in him?

Im sure there was nothing concrete just some papers putting 2 and 2 together. Arsenal need a keeper, foster is 'available'...
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: crazedwbafan18 on July 21, 2011, 01:42:02 PM
Im sure there was nothing concrete just some papers putting 2 and 2 together. Arsenal need a keeper, foster is 'available'...
why though? fabianski and szczesny are good keepers?
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: dB on July 21, 2011, 01:49:57 PM
why though? fabianski and szczesny are good keepers?

Good, yes. Arsenal standard (aiming for top 4), no.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: The Joust on July 21, 2011, 02:02:26 PM
Good, yes. Arsenal standard (aiming for top 4), no.

Exactly. Fabianzki is average imo and Szcesny would be good for someone like Everton, Villa but for Arsenal who should be aiming to win the league no chance.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Pistol Pete on July 21, 2011, 02:05:27 PM
Why would he go to Arsenal over us if he wants to stay in the Midlands and he'll be getting exactly the same wages because we are paying his wages for Birmingham City...
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: bradleysrocket on July 21, 2011, 02:07:09 PM
Exactly. Fabianzki is average imo and Szcesny would be good for someone like Everton, Villa but for Arsenal who should be aiming to win the league no chance.
Sames foster then , good but not top 4 class. I don't think we'd have too much genuine competition for his signature if we really want him. Probably why there doesn't appear to be any hurry.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: buzzingbaggie on July 21, 2011, 02:08:19 PM
Exactly. Fabianzki is average imo and Szcesny would be good for someone like Everton, Villa but for Arsenal who should be aiming to win the league no chance.

So is Foster good enough for Arsenal on that basis, a former Man Utd Reserve?
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: DudleyBaggieFan on July 21, 2011, 02:10:21 PM
Anyway back to foster. Is there any ITK people on here who can shed a bit of light on this subject? Getting annoyed now that we seem to be dragging the deal out. Very impatient me!

Also, if blues want 1mil for loan and then 4mil if we stay up next season, why can't we just buy him outright now for 4mil?
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Mister AT on July 21, 2011, 02:10:54 PM
I think he will become a baggie, just depending on whether its loan or permanent is the issue.

Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Wbahunty on July 21, 2011, 02:12:38 PM
Its so that if blues come back up they will have Foster back. It has nothing to do with the albion staying up!

1.5million to loan and then 4.5million to sign next year!

6million for Foster i would sign him up stright away!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: DudleyBaggieFan on July 21, 2011, 02:15:55 PM
Its so that if blues come back up they will have Foster back. It has nothing to do with the albion staying up!

1.5million to loan and then 4.5million to sign next year!

6million for Foster i would sign him up stright away!

I thought it was 1 mil and 4 mil. At 5 mil I'd snap him up now! If I had the money ;D
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Kicking Pigeons on July 21, 2011, 02:27:36 PM
Anyway back to foster. Is there any ITK people on here who can shed a bit of light on this subject? Getting annoyed now that we seem to be dragging the deal out. Very impatient me!

Also, if blues want 1mil for loan and then 4mil if we stay up next season, why can't we just buy him outright now for 4mil?
Because Blues don't want to sell him outright now for 4mil.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: The Joust on July 21, 2011, 02:33:01 PM
So is Foster good enough for Arsenal on that basis, a former Man Utd Reserve?

Id say so yes. Got the potential without question
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: wba1993dave on July 21, 2011, 02:34:35 PM
A loan deal would be OK , we get a top keeper for a season if the Blues don't come up we buy him for 6 million, in a way if we did get him on loan it would be great business because we can spend money on Long and a defender, it gives us a year to save the money for foster that's if we stay up and if this rumour comes true :D
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: smethwickw on July 21, 2011, 02:35:49 PM
Why would he go to Arsenal over us if he wants to stay in the Midlands and he'll be getting exactly the same wages because we are paying his wages for Birmingham City...

There is no way he choose us over Arsenal. London isn't a million miles away either and it would be for 1 season initially. Chances are it's just papertalk anyway.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: DudleyBaggieFan on July 21, 2011, 02:42:56 PM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: B_H_Baggie on July 21, 2011, 02:47:32 PM
That has hardly put a downer on it, that was always unlikely to be true given that only one person on twitter appeared to hear it and someone posted it on here  :D

The thing that has got people hopeful is that Hodgson has confirmed we have held talks about him and that is after all the stuff about Green last week.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: dB on July 21, 2011, 02:48:07 PM
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Post by: WBAinDEVON on July 21, 2011, 03:04:27 PM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: addy on July 21, 2011, 03:23:36 PM
Cant get any better confirmation than Hodgson this morning (our time) saying we are interested, just a case of waiting and seeing now.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: j_dog_1980 on July 21, 2011, 03:48:38 PM
Would be happy with that deal tbh!

I personnaly I think we'll sign permantly for about 4/5 million maybe with add ons! Just have a sneaky little feeling!

And NO i'm not ITK before i get asked!  ;D
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: KingKoren on July 21, 2011, 03:57:40 PM
Slightly off-topic but does anyone know what football team he supports?

Considering he was born in Leamington Spa I thought he may of supported a midlands club. Probably a United fan though  ::)

 
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: The Joust on July 21, 2011, 04:12:01 PM
Slightly off-topic but does anyone know what football team he supports?

Considering he was born in Leamington Spa I thought he may of supported a midlands club. Probably a United fan though  ::)

Walsall
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: KingKoren on July 21, 2011, 04:15:49 PM
Walsall

Certainly not a glory hunter then  ;D
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: The Joust on July 21, 2011, 04:17:26 PM
Certainly not a glory hunter then  ;D

I don't know who he supports really lol Would be funny if it was though and snubbed us and Swansea for a shot at the League One title
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: KingKoren on July 21, 2011, 04:20:57 PM
I don't know who he supports really lol Would be funny if it was though and snubbed us and Swansea for a shot at the League One title

He could probably play as a striker for Walsall and be their best player. ;D
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: PortsmouthBaggie on July 21, 2011, 05:13:16 PM
I don't know who he supports really lol Would be funny if it was though and snubbed us and Swansea for a shot at the League One title

League 1 title? More chance of them having a pop at the League 2 title the season after :P

I really hope this moves along now. Foster, I think in most peoples opinions would be pretty much the perfect keeper for us right now and certainly the best that's available.
I think if we have any ambition to really progress and try and match last seasons achievements players like this have to be bought in even if it means we break our transfer record on a keeper. I'm all for the nobody signings coming in because I fully trust in our scouting network and why wouldn't anyone with some of the no name players that have blossomed here, but I think some solid names have to be thrown in with them and surely the likes of Ashworth and Peace know this and can see what Foster would bring. IMO probably the most important signing of the summer as I believe we do have enough in every department to stay up, even the defence with Foster shouting behind them and coming for crosses(not a dig at Carson ::))
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Baggies on July 21, 2011, 05:47:58 PM
Good news if we can get him in. Seems it is on the cards though.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Baggie Artist on July 21, 2011, 06:07:20 PM
Quote
I really hope this moves along now. Foster, I think in most peoples opinions would be pretty much the perfect keeper for us right now and certainly the best that's available.

Not sure about that, I'd say the perfect keeper would be someone who is proven at the level we wish to achieve (mid-table), while Foster has only had two seasons with relegated clubs.

Also is he commanding, reliable etc.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: B_H_Baggie on July 21, 2011, 07:29:08 PM
He's certainly a reliable keeper, much better than what we have or what we have recently had. Is he commanding? Not as much as people would like but there are very few goalkeepers around that bother to come off their line these days, it must be something to do with modern day coaching techniques as the position has evolved.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: jjb0rdell0 on July 21, 2011, 07:49:22 PM
Not sure about that, I'd say the perfect keeper would be someone who is proven at the level we wish to achieve (mid-table), while Foster has only had two seasons with relegated clubs.

Also is he commanding, reliable etc.

I think, without Foster, Blues would have failed a lot harder last season without him (at least, in my opinion)
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Standaman on July 21, 2011, 08:01:25 PM
I hope it is a permanent deal rather than a loan I would hate to have him just for a season but if it is dependent on Blues coming back up we have a fighting chance of it turning permanent.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: CL3MO on July 21, 2011, 08:15:09 PM
Why would he go to Arsenal over us if he wants to stay in the Midlands and he'll be getting exactly the same wages because we are paying his wages for Birmingham City...

What!?!?! A chance to join a top four club alone, forget wages and location, will be more than enough to persuade him to join Arsenal. Doubt there in for him though.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: lewisant on July 21, 2011, 10:37:47 PM
When did hodgeson confirm our interest?
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: B_H_Baggie on July 21, 2011, 10:40:09 PM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: wbako on July 21, 2011, 10:43:42 PM
Fourth Official
West Brom are moving fast to seal a deal for Ben Foster after having a bid for Robert Green rejected #WBA
30 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply


That is from a usually very reliable twitter poster.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: B_H_Baggie on July 21, 2011, 10:49:24 PM
The bloke who is covering Albion for the Brum Mail while CL is off says nothing is imminent, I'm assuming on any score.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: lewisant on July 21, 2011, 11:00:29 PM
Just caught up on newsnow. Seems like something we need to move fast on
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: B_H_Baggie on July 21, 2011, 11:03:09 PM
Just caught up on newsnow. Seems like something we need to move fast on

Depends if everything on newsnow is accurate or not.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: monkey nuts on July 21, 2011, 11:12:42 PM
The bloke who is covering Albion for the Brum Mail while CL is off says nothing is imminent, I'm assuming on any score.

to be fair BH he doesn't seem to be as well informed to me could be wrong though i could
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: B_H_Baggie on July 21, 2011, 11:19:16 PM
You could be right to be to be fair as it isn't his usual job, wouldn't have the contacts someone like CL has put together over the years.

Could be an interesting period with Hodgson returning from the USA soon.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: addy on July 21, 2011, 11:29:16 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPoDJlH49gM 5:15 is where Hodgson talks about Foster if anyone is interested,  source of express and star quotes.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Londonbaggymike on July 21, 2011, 11:32:50 PM
You could be right to be to be fair as it isn't his usual job, wouldn't have the contacts someone like CL has put together over the years.

Could be an interesting period with Hodgson returning from the USA soon.

Think you're right about an interesting week or two coming up. But regarding CL and his replacement, has he ever broken any news that amazed us ie. something that we weren't aware of as a likelyhood of happening? I'm not knocking, I'm just saying we play our cards very close to our chests when it comes to transfers. To be honest it must be a thankless task being the baggies correspondant for a local rag!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: 65baggie on July 21, 2011, 11:53:01 PM
text from one of the players saying Roy on fone constant.  2 deals very close but nothing until he returns. New GK over 7 - 10 days.  Foster main target and has always been.  Blues looking silly money initiallly   
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Albion07 on July 22, 2011, 12:17:12 AM
Would be a quality signing - hopefully we get him in asap ( we all know that wont happen  :D )
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: matth on July 22, 2011, 12:46:46 AM
No point coming on here for another week then  ;D
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: BaggieBirdRus on July 22, 2011, 12:51:05 AM
text from one of the players saying Roy on fone constant.  2 deals very close but nothing until he returns. New GK over 7 - 10 days.  Foster main target and has always been.  Blues looking silly money initiallly

Roy's spending all out transfer kitty on naughty chat lines!!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: up_the_baggies on July 22, 2011, 01:02:02 AM
Roy's spending all out transfer kitty on naughty chat lines!!

life in the old dog yet ;D
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: RowleyBaggie2 on July 22, 2011, 06:17:11 AM
He's on here waiting for jaimee to post who we are signing.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Dale on July 22, 2011, 08:02:21 AM
text from one of the players saying Roy on fone constant.  2 deals very close but nothing until he returns. New GK over 7 - 10 days.  Foster main target and has always been.  Blues looking silly money initiallly

If true then my guess is Hargreaves and Foster lol?
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: off_foo_182 on July 22, 2011, 08:05:09 AM
always another 7-10 days haha. honestly, we should learn by now! only get excited when it happens
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on July 22, 2011, 10:55:34 AM
He's on here waiting for jaimee to post who we are signing.

Whoever we're about to sign no doubt that Jamiee will curse it!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: DudleyBaggieFan on July 22, 2011, 11:28:51 AM
Usually reliable IMO.

As we said over a week ago, #wba are interested in signing #blues gk Ben Foster. But his wage demands could be the stumbling block
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Cunningham on July 22, 2011, 11:33:08 AM
Its not quite so bad when you are a Championship club or round abouts because there are a number of players that are much of a muchness so it doesn't matter so much if you stall on deals and wreck them. The better / bigger / more ambitious your club is the more it matters because there are less and less players that will improve you. If the likes of Hargreaves and Foster are eagerly wanted then we can't afford to mess about too much.


Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Standaman on July 22, 2011, 12:14:04 PM
http://www.birminghammail.net/birmingham-sport/west-bromwich-albion-fc/west-bromwich-albion-fc-news/2011/07/22/west-brom-loan-move-on-the-cards-as-ben-foster-talks-continue-97319-29098333/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

Latest from Birmingham Mail talks ongoing over a loan deal. I would much rather it be permanent but would still be a good signing
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: bradleysrocket on July 22, 2011, 12:19:00 PM
Usually reliable IMO.

As we said over a week ago, #wba are interested in signing #blues gk Ben Foster. But his wage demands could be the stumbling block
That's the exact same tweet as the Tom Ross goal zone one.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: B_H_Baggie on July 22, 2011, 12:30:02 PM
I think he just forgot to mention who it was that posted it on twitter.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Greenock Baggie on July 22, 2011, 12:41:48 PM
Who's to say it wont be a permanent loan as theres no guarantee the Blues will get promoted straight away. Some good teams in the Chumps league as well as Blues
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: bradleysrocket on July 22, 2011, 12:43:36 PM
I think he just forgot to mention who it was that posted it on twitter.
Oh right, figured he'd seen it from someone regarded as ITK.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: DudleyBaggieFan on July 22, 2011, 01:09:28 PM
Oh right, figured he'd seen it from someone regarded as ITK.

Nope it was from Tom Ross. He us usually reliable IMO
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: DudleyBaggieFan on July 22, 2011, 01:10:59 PM
We are now sky sports top story saying interested in foster. So I take it it still classed as an interest. They also said blues will allow him to leave on a Loan or perm deal.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: reis wbafc patel on July 22, 2011, 02:33:35 PM
I could see us getting him on a season long loan then having a clause in his contract saying if he wants to stay he can and we can sign him on a permanent deal.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: addy on July 23, 2011, 01:32:02 AM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: geoff on July 23, 2011, 09:51:17 AM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: WBAinDEVON on July 23, 2011, 10:29:15 AM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: dan7heman on July 23, 2011, 02:23:52 PM
Foster not in the squad for birminghams friendly today... the plot thickens
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: WBASPE77 on July 23, 2011, 02:27:35 PM
Good news for us then, there at Hereford today.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Wbahunty on July 23, 2011, 02:30:40 PM
Foster hasnt travelled with the squad, rumour has it hes meeting Hodgson today with a view to sign early next week. Long deal will happen next week if the price is right!

These are only Twitter statments, so I wouldnt be 100%
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: bobcracker on July 23, 2011, 02:42:33 PM
Foster definetly hasn't travelled with the Blues squad, "throat infection" according to twitter..hmmm
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: DudleyBaggieFan on July 23, 2011, 02:50:49 PM
Hmm getting interesting. :-D
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Greenock Baggie on July 23, 2011, 03:22:35 PM
Foster definetly hasn't travelled with the Blues squad, "throat infection" according to twitter..hmmm
That old chestnut
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: BaggieBoiJono on July 23, 2011, 03:46:53 PM
This is interesting. Looks like hes definately going, but to us who knows?

Id be over the moon to sign him hes one of the best keepers in the league.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Baggies on July 23, 2011, 04:16:51 PM
I think we are the last club left he could go to so yes.

Would be a very good deal if we can get him. Seems quite positive although the wage discussions will be interesting if he is on 30 k a week as is being reported.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: BaggieBoiJono on July 23, 2011, 04:25:48 PM
I think we are the last club left he could go to so yes.

Would be a very good deal if we can get him. Seems quite positive although the wage discussions will be interesting if he is on 30 k a week as is being reported.

Carson wouldnt of been on the cheap at the Albion, i no we all kind of laugh at Scott for being a poor keeper but he would of been one of our top earners, coming from Liverpool, Young and England experience.

We should be willing to pay for Foster his contribution, he can make the difference if hes not over exposed to winning or losing.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Dan on July 23, 2011, 04:34:31 PM
As said above, Carson must surely have been on about 25k, a young England international, coming from Liverpool. I doubt his wage was massively different from that, coupled with the fact we seemed to think Given was a realistic target, and are reportedly prepared to spend a lot of our budget on a keeper, I really can't see how finances could be a problem, presuming he's on a reasonable wage.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: royhan on July 23, 2011, 09:49:48 PM
I thought Chris Hughton was very guarded in his comments when asked on Sky about the possibility of Foster moving to Albion on loan. He didn't say yes - and he didn't say no. My guess is that Brum want to cash in and sell Foster in a straight cash deal rather than loan him. They have three strikers out injured for the start of the season, so perhaps we can do a deal to loan them one of ours - Bednar, Fortune or Miller - for a month as part of the package.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Standaman on July 23, 2011, 11:09:51 PM
Foster being left out of the squad pretty much clinches it, he is on his way. No other club had been linked with him and he wants to stay in the Midlands. It will be interesting to see what deal we have cut with the Blues
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: smosher34 on July 23, 2011, 11:20:36 PM
i hope we just buy him not loan him for a season so he is ours , be good idea loan them a stricker woods ?????
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: wba1993dave on July 23, 2011, 11:24:27 PM
I actually think we may buy him for 4 million but the fee would most likely rise to 6 million, just got that feeling :P  but if we loan him who cares , i really cant see the blues coming back up anyway.  If i was JP i would give them 4 million with the fee rising to 6 and give them Miller.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: alex1 on July 24, 2011, 01:53:05 AM
This could be a key signing if it goes through. Goalkeeper is a key position as the confidence in a defence starts from a reliable pair of hands in goal. I think an english speaking keeper will help as good communication at the back is vital. Foster is definitely the best available. If he made himself available he could still be England No.1. It will make my summer if both Foster and Gera  sign up.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: elminius on July 24, 2011, 06:09:37 AM
This could be a key signing if it goes through. Goalkeeper is a key position as the confidence in a defence starts from a reliable pair of hands in goal. I think an english speaking keeper will help as good communication at the back is vital. Foster is definitely the best available. If he made himself available he could still be England No.1. It will make my summer if both Foster and Gera  sign up.

Im sure Carson was English but im not so sure the communication was that clear then
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Smooth Lad on July 24, 2011, 08:55:25 AM
That old chestnut

 :D

Couldn't have put it better.

The signs are very exciting but i'm not totally built up for the revealing yet.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: mb1 on July 24, 2011, 09:03:48 AM
:D

Couldn't have put it better.

The signs are very exciting but i'm not totally built up for the revealing yet.

ITK?
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Smooth Lad on July 24, 2011, 09:41:20 AM
ITK?

No.  :-X

Whatever gave you that idea?
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: lordbaggie on July 24, 2011, 10:01:25 AM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: AlbionBest on July 24, 2011, 10:03:29 AM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Wbahunty on July 24, 2011, 10:18:37 AM
Deal wont be done on a sunday! Possibily tomorrow or tuesday but not a sunday!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: dangerman on July 24, 2011, 10:22:39 AM
Deal wont be done on a sunday! Possibily tomorrow or tuesday but not a sunday!

I got a feeling this deal won't happen. I hope I'm wrong but I still think we'll end up with green.

And before anyone says it I'm not itk it's just a feeling.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: AlbionBest on July 24, 2011, 10:37:35 AM
I got a feeling this deal won't happen. I hope I'm wrong but I still think we'll end up with green.

And before anyone says it I'm not itk it's just a feeling.

Tend to agree how it's dragging on and on.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: B_H_Baggie on July 24, 2011, 10:48:09 AM
You only have to look at other transfers around the country to realise how long some of these things actually take. As an example Wolves admitted they went in for Johnson as soon as Blues went down and Tom Ross said Johnson handed in multiple transfer requests to try and force a deal yet look how long it took them to agree a deal with the club and then get him in. If it is a loan deal with a view to a permanent move if they don't come back up as its been reported then it could be a complicated deal to arrange all the details too.

To my knowledge we held initial discussions a couple of weeks back and then put it on the backburner for a week while we held initial talks about Green and we have this past week gone back in for Foster, I don't get the panic about how long it is taking to be honest.

Yet again it is just a case of having to wait and see what happens.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: bigbadjohn on July 24, 2011, 10:50:30 AM
We will sign a goalkeeper in the week .
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: WSBaggie on July 24, 2011, 11:27:29 AM
We will sign a goalkeeper in the week .

Really? you ITK or just stating the obvious?  :)
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Londonbaggymike on July 24, 2011, 11:30:57 AM
Really? you ITK or just stating the obvious?  :)

Can we have a "Are you ITK?" smiley as every other post on this forum seems to ask this question. And by the way I'm not.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: elminius on July 24, 2011, 11:50:59 AM
Can we have a "Are you ITK?" smiley as every other post on this forum seems to ask this question. And by the way I'm not.

Or how about a ban on the words 'are you ITK'!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Tipton Baggie on July 24, 2011, 12:17:17 PM
Cant see us signing Long and Foster by tonight maybe in the week.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: baggie_1 on July 24, 2011, 12:23:06 PM
we cant officially sign anyone on sundays can we? thought the paper work had to faxed off and processed and wont be done till monday. not sure.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Mooncat on July 24, 2011, 12:26:12 PM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Sussex-Baggie on July 24, 2011, 12:29:52 PM
we cant officially sign anyone on sundays can we? thought the paper work had to faxed off and processed and wont be done till monday. not sure.

I'm sure other clubs have confirmed the signing of certain players on Sunday's in the past, so I guess it is just a case of how close either of the signings we have been linked with are to completion.

I suspect that if we really wanted to push a deal through today, we probably could. However, I don't think we are that desperate to do so at this stage of the transfer window, so I would be surprised if anything happens today.

I get the impression now that the Ben Foster deal may be closer to completion than either club is letting on, because it seems strange that a player was not even available to travel with the squad to a local friendly match due to a throat infection. It is not something that genuinely leaves you house-bound unless it is incredibly bad, so I wouldn't be at all surprised if we were holding talks with Foster yesterday afternoon.

I just hope we don't miss out on him now, as he is clearly our number one target and we certainly appear to be in pole position to sign him.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: B_H_Baggie on July 24, 2011, 12:30:29 PM
When fees are often listed as undisclosed it leaves them open to scrutiny like that whether it is right or wrong.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: DudleyBaggieFan on July 24, 2011, 12:40:20 PM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on July 24, 2011, 01:51:48 PM
Foster has suffered with a throat infection before, I seem to remember him pulling out the England squad some time ago so let's no presume he's straight away been talking with the club. Unless it's been confirmed! Sorry to be the party pooper, but I won't let the emotions run over. I'll be delighted if we manage to pull it off but until then it's about being patient. Deals like this will normally take time. Let's hope all of this is true and we can pull this deal off.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: tipton baggie 80 on July 24, 2011, 02:10:09 PM
Foster has suffered with a throat infection before, I seem to remember him pulling out the England squad some time ago so let's no presume he's straight away been talking with the club. Unless it's been confirmed! Sorry to be the party pooper, but I won't let the emotions run over. I'll be delighted if we manage to pull it off but until then it's about being patient. Deals like this will normally take time. Let's hope all of this is true and we can pull him off.

I, like most of us, would be happy to have him at the club, but i think this is going a step too far!  ;)
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: DudleyBaggieFan on July 24, 2011, 02:15:40 PM
I, like most of us, would be happy to have him at the club, but i think this is going a step too far!  ;)

I was thinking the same :P
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: baggieboyjop on July 24, 2011, 05:19:52 PM
Foster has suffered with a throat infection before, I seem to remember him pulling out the England squad some time ago so let's no presume he's straight away been talking with the club. Unless it's been confirmed! Sorry to be the party pooper, but I won't let the emotions run over. I'll be delighted if we manage to pull it off but until then it's about being patient. Deals like this will normally take time. Let's hope all of this is true and we can pull this deal off.

Im with you there liam. We need to keep our feet on the ground until its a done deal imo as he may well have a better offer as he is a really good keeper. However us we do get him i'd be delighted as it would be a real improvement on scotty
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Zebidee on July 25, 2011, 01:51:39 AM
Why is it a step too far?
It is only Birmingham he's at.. If he's not too good for them, then he's not too good for us
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Quakes Fan on July 25, 2011, 02:07:45 AM
Sexual innuendo, Zeb.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: B_H_Baggie on July 25, 2011, 11:04:38 AM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: WBAinDEVON on July 25, 2011, 11:08:56 AM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: bradleysrocket on July 25, 2011, 11:30:59 AM
Greg Evans isn't usually the Albion reporter but just filling in while chris l is away. Colin Tattum is the regular blues guy though. I'd assume his contacts as the full time blues reporter would be better than a part time baggie. The truth could be neither but somewhere inbetween of course.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: lordbaggie on July 25, 2011, 11:45:45 AM
Don't think there is that much discrepancy to be honest.

It's not disputed that:

1. the two clubs have held talks/negotiations

2. there is no suggestion that the two clubs are "miles apart" in terms of agreeing a fee

3. Albion have yet to conclude discussions with Foster

My guess is that the clubs have reached broad agreement over fee levels (although there may still be an open question re loan or loan to permanent or permanent and that discussions may have started with the player.

Blues will know that if the Albion deal falls through they are probably stuck with the player for another season at least (which from a playing point of view they will be happy with)

So they will want to downplay talk of his exit and appear reluctant sellers.

For Albion it's more a question of Foster or Green. They have every reason to talk up the Foster transfer as it puts pressure on Green and West Ham who they probably have parallel talks with.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: wbastrollers on July 25, 2011, 11:54:52 AM
This is classic brinkmanship-who better then JP to go to the edge!!
Lets just hope he doesn't fall off.

JP is banking on no one else coming in - Sunderland don't need a goalie do they?
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: phbaggies on July 25, 2011, 11:56:27 AM
http://www.birminghammail.net/birmingham-sport/birmingham-city-fc/birmingham-city-fc-news/2011/07/25/birmingham-city-hughton-speaks-out-to-calm-down-ben-foster-absence-talk-97319-29112712/
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: lordbaggie on July 25, 2011, 12:10:35 PM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Slimbo on July 25, 2011, 12:50:30 PM
Do we really want Ben Foster - he is a Barnsley fan scoring against him  ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOiB7LOH3cY
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Wbahunty on July 25, 2011, 12:55:41 PM
I love that vid! It has everything, the slip at the start, the crap control by the first bloke, then a qaulity finish lol and the celebrations! Qaulity
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: DudleyBaggieFan on July 25, 2011, 02:21:31 PM
should we be worried?

http://www.fanatix.com/news/arsenal-ready-to-hijack-west-broms-deal-for-6m-shot-stopper-494/
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: 8thewolves on July 25, 2011, 02:30:26 PM
should we be worried?

http://www.fanatix.com/news/arsenal-ready-to-hijack-west-broms-deal-for-6m-shot-stopper-494/

this would just serve us right for penny pinching in my opinion.
Yes we run a tight ship and I agree with that, but this is a deal that we
should be signing off asap instead of trying to squeeze every last penny off the loan
price.
Just sort it out jp  :(
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: tuamigos on July 25, 2011, 02:32:24 PM
should we be worried?

http://www.fanatix.com/news/arsenal-ready-to-hijack-west-broms-deal-for-6m-shot-stopper-494/

We should if its true
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: DaveWBA on July 25, 2011, 02:37:43 PM
this would just serve us right for penny pinching in my opinion.
Yes we run a tight ship and I agree with that, but this is a deal that we
should be signing off asap instead of trying to squeeze every last penny off the loan
price.
Just sort it out jp  :(

Calm down, hardly the most reputable of sources.

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/transfer-news/West-Bromwich-Albion-close-to-loan-deal-for-Ben-Foster-from-Birmingham-to-replace-Scott-Carson-article775599.html

This was from today's Mirror which seems promising, whether its regurgitating old news or whether its a new development remains to be seen.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: ashleycross77 on July 25, 2011, 02:40:14 PM
i have a feeling we have already signed him, looking forward to seeing confirmation on the OS.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: wba1993dave on July 25, 2011, 02:40:25 PM
I doubt it they have Chesney lol who is a  good keeper.  And i doubt wenger would splash 6 million on a No2.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: 8thewolves on July 25, 2011, 02:48:05 PM
Calm down, hardly the most reputable of sources.

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/transfer-news/West-Bromwich-Albion-close-to-loan-deal-for-Ben-Foster-from-Birmingham-to-replace-Scott-Carson-article775599.html

This was from today's Mirror which seems promising, whether its regurgitating old news or whether its a new development remains to be seen.

fair play, but it's still dragging on a bit too long for my liking, I know we should be
used to it by now but it wouldn't be the first time we've hesitated/negotiated on a deal for too long now would it ?
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: WBArgo on July 25, 2011, 02:50:40 PM
I reckon Wenger would favour Szczesny to be honest. Wenger likes youngsters, Szczesny is 21 and played a lot of last season. He's 7 years younger than Foster and arguably already as good. In fact, he's been tipped to go on and become a truly great goalkeeper.

I think Wenger will just keep him and their current number 2. Foster would be an odd signing for him to be honest. And more importantly, it would be Man Utd all over again for Foster, who at 28 no longer wants to stay on the bench - and rightly so.

I'd be more worried about Swansea to be honest. I doubt they're a real threat but as it stands their main target Stockdale is heading for Ipswich.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: wba1993dave on July 25, 2011, 02:54:32 PM
Don't worry folks,  these things take time,most likely the clubs are talking about a package and if that package suits both parties , and i highly doubt he would pick Swansea over us
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: DudleyBaggieFan on July 25, 2011, 02:58:29 PM
Don't worry folks,  these things take time,most likely the clubs are talking about a package and if that package suits both parties , and i highly doubt he would pick Swansea over us

I thought we were talking about arsenal not Swansea :P
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: B_H_Baggie on July 25, 2011, 03:00:32 PM
should we be worried?

http://www.fanatix.com/news/arsenal-ready-to-hijack-west-broms-deal-for-6m-shot-stopper-494/

If that is the only source to suggest any interest then no.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Hull Baggie on July 25, 2011, 03:04:52 PM
should we be worried?

http://www.fanatix.com/news/arsenal-ready-to-hijack-west-broms-deal-for-6m-shot-stopper-494/

Another case of newspapers needing to fill pages me thinks.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: DudleyBaggieFan on July 25, 2011, 03:07:01 PM
If that is the only source to suggest any interest then no.

It's the only one I can find so hopefully no need to read to much into this.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: B_H_Baggie on July 25, 2011, 03:07:57 PM
Seems like someone putting 2+2 together and ending up with 5 to me.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: lordbaggie on July 25, 2011, 03:10:33 PM
Could be info planted from a Bluenose source hoping to panic us.

It's worked with some of our forum members  ;D but Jezza is made of sterner stuff  ;)
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: JDWest_Brom on July 25, 2011, 03:17:58 PM
Just speculation on a site that I've never heard of on which it seems anybody can post an 'article'.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: DaveWBA on July 25, 2011, 05:07:34 PM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Sussex-Baggie on July 25, 2011, 05:21:43 PM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Zebidee on July 25, 2011, 07:09:09 PM
Typical.. Dragging our feet and then we risk losing him to another team.
Each passing day, is a extra day we could lose him.
What if another team during a friendly gets a goalie injured and comes in for him with a straight offer? :(
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: WSBaggie on July 25, 2011, 09:00:23 PM
It's annoying me how people are saying we are dragging our feet. Maybe this deal hinges on other deals being completed? Maybe we don't want to pay a silly asking price and run our club into the ground? Maybe we don't want to pay bigger than needed wages to somebody? The people at our club are professionals and I'm sure there are good enough reasons for why this deal hasn't been completed straight away.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: AshD on July 25, 2011, 09:54:38 PM
Typical.. Dragging our feet and then we risk losing him to another team.
Each passing day, is a extra day we could lose him.
What if another team during a friendly gets a goalie injured and comes in for him with a straight offer? :(

How do you know we are dragging our feet!?! How do you know we arent doing everything we possibly can to get the deal done!?!

Could it possibly be that Blues are dragging their feet, or are playing hardball, like you would expect us to do if someone was trying to sign one of better players!?!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Dexy on July 25, 2011, 09:56:11 PM
Given Blues cash problems i suspect they maybe dragging this out hoping for a bigger bid.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: wba1993dave on July 25, 2011, 09:57:26 PM
Some fans need a bit of patience , may i suggest some of you read this

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/6314369.stm
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Elmo on July 25, 2011, 10:17:35 PM
Interesting read.

How does Harry Redknapp manage to get them done in half an hour  ::)
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: overseas baggie on July 25, 2011, 10:41:34 PM
Interesting read.

How does Harry Redknapp manage to get them done in half an hour  ::)

By paying over the top and not understanding finances. Its why there is no money left at West Ham or Portsmouth. He now has a chairman at Tottenham who isn't so reckless - transfers take longer now !
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: WBArgo on July 25, 2011, 11:11:39 PM
I wouldn't say Levy wasn't 'wreckless' but he's already a multi-billionaire. It probably has something to do with the funding of Tottenham  ;D
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Zebidee on July 25, 2011, 11:23:46 PM
Also wouldn't say west ham have no money, as they now bid 8 mill for long.
Could we risk losing both our transfer targets now.. Or does long prefer a move to prem?
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: overseas baggie on July 26, 2011, 08:02:09 AM
Also wouldn't say west ham have no money, as they now bid 8 mill for long.
Could we risk losing both our transfer targets now.. Or does long prefer a move to prem?

West Ham's finances are in a desparate state. They are being kept afloat by Sullivan's and Gold's personal wealth which is not the same thing - the club's own balance sheet is what will count under the UEFA financial fair play rules.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: phbaggies on July 26, 2011, 09:25:00 AM
According to one of their ITK fans on Small Heath Alliance the hold up is wages:

The Albion only want to pay half his wages, we want them to pay at least 75%, preferably all.


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Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: duncan on July 26, 2011, 09:39:26 AM
How much is Foster on? I think paying 50% is a fair proportion. Especially as technicaly he would remain their player, and they want his salary of their books.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: bradleysrocket on July 26, 2011, 09:44:08 AM
Taking him and only paying a portion is usually the case in players with much higher wages say if you're taking a player from man city or the like. We ought to have no issue paying his full wage for a season loan.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Londonbaggymike on July 26, 2011, 09:48:51 AM
How much is Foster on? I think paying 50% is a fair proportion. Especially as technicaly he would remain their player, and they want his salary of their books.

I disagree in principal. The player's full wages should be paid by the borrowing club. Bellamy last year nearly got Cardiff promoted yet city were paying the bulk of his wages. I'd be well peed off if he'd scored against us denying us a chance. There is so much wrong with football it is unreal. But if you borrow a player then pay his wages.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: wbastrollers on July 26, 2011, 10:37:55 AM
I disagree in principal. The player's full wages should be paid by the borrowing club. Bellamy last year nearly got Cardiff promoted yet city were paying the bulk of his wages. I'd be well peed off if he'd scored against us denying us a chance. There is so much wrong with football it is unreal. But if you borrow a player then pay his wages.

I would be "peed" as well, if Foster scored against us.   
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Mooncat on July 26, 2011, 10:45:36 AM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: DudleyBaggieFan on July 26, 2011, 11:01:49 AM
1.5mil a year wages, that's around 35k a week?

If we were willing to pay 50k for Carew then why should paying his full wages be a problem?
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: lordbaggie on July 26, 2011, 11:08:36 AM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: 8thewolves on July 26, 2011, 11:11:31 AM
this is the way I see it, if we want him pay the money,
if not move on to the next target.
I'm all for getting the best value for money, but come on,
do we not think he is worth it ?
As I said in an earlier post, if we hesitate/negotiate too long we will miss out,
and this is one transfer I really think we need.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: 8thewolves on July 26, 2011, 11:12:51 AM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: DudleyBaggieFan on July 26, 2011, 11:28:24 AM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: slugga1 on July 26, 2011, 11:40:31 AM
IF it's a loan to permanent then 75% shouldn't be an issue if we know he will be our player in the end, sounds pretty fair to me actually, especially considering the talent of the lad. Come on Jezza prise that wallet open!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Jack Russell on July 26, 2011, 11:46:28 AM
I wonder if Roy is starting to get frustrated.He has never worked for a club in a straight jacket before
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: dinkydave2003 on July 26, 2011, 11:55:49 AM
I wonder if Roy is starting to get frustrated.He has never worked for a club in a straight jacket before

i think this and the long deal will come off eventually and tbh if we could add these 2 plus gera and hargreaves i'd be fairly happy.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Jack Russell on July 26, 2011, 11:56:45 AM
i think this and the long deal will come off eventually and tbh if we could add these 2 plus gera and hargreaves i'd be fairly happy.

and so would i and maybe another central defender
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Astle1968 on July 26, 2011, 12:01:13 PM
Some people attitudes to our spending on here amaze me, I cant beleive they would spend their money the same way they are expecting the club to. With no evidence at all we are being accused of dragging our feet, not being willing to pay the money, risking out on losing the player. As someone else pointed out how do you know its not Blues stalling on the deal trying to see if other offers come in to start a bidding war.

Personally I think paying 75% of his wages is a good deal on the face of it, however if a deal could be done where we pay 50% of his wages then paying 75% is a poor deal and bad business for the club.

As for not spending the money, Mulumbu has just signed his 3rd improved contract in 12 months, theres a record deal supposedly on the table for Odemwingie and Gera deal all but done, all on good money. Without our dealings and negotiations in the tranfer markets onver the past 6/7 years we would not be near the position we are in now but it is still not good enough for some people
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: phbaggies on July 26, 2011, 12:07:25 PM
Some people attitudes to our spending on here amaze me, I cant beleive they would spend their money the same way they are expecting the club to. With no evidence at all we are being accused of dragging our feet, not being willing to pay the money, risking out on losing the player. As someone else pointed out how do you know its not Blues stalling on the deal trying to see if other offers come in to start a bidding war.

Personally I think paying 75% of his wages is a good deal on the face of it, however if a deal could be done where we pay 50% of his wages then paying 75% is a poor deal and bad business for the club.

As for not spending the money, Mulumbu has just signed his 3rd improved contract in 12 months, theres a record deal supposedly on the table for Odemwingie and Gera deal all but done, all on good money. Without our dealings and negotiations in the tranfer markets onver the past 6/7 years we would not be near the position we are in now but it is still not good enough for some people
Well said, agree completely!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Ross on July 26, 2011, 12:13:06 PM
What benefit to Blues get out of this deal?

Wages off their hands - yes - but are we paying a lump sum to loan him for the year?

Again tight arse Albion going for a quick fix - if Blues get promoted next year they'll take him back (stupid loan contract agreement if they dont), then we are left in the exact same position next year, with perhaps the situation made worse when all teamsa round us will know we are in the market for a keeper and heighten the price - defeating the whole objective of this loan deal for peace in the first place
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: The Joust on July 26, 2011, 12:17:56 PM
i think this and the long deal will come off eventually and tbh if we could add these 2 plus gera and hargreaves i'd be fairly happy.

Fairly happy?? Id be over the cowin' moon! Foster, Hargreaves, Gera and Long would be an excellent summer of business. (not forgetting Jones & Mcauley)
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on July 26, 2011, 12:18:44 PM
I think some need to calm down a little, hopefully this will be completed in due course. Instead of taking this as an opportunity to bite down at the club and the board why don't we realise for two minutes that

1. We need the best price for ourselves which doesn't mean chucking money around left right and centre when you can perhaps negotiate a better deal.

2. Birmingham are possibly holding on to get a better deal for themselves.

We have to make the most of our resources and that may mean it takes a bit longer but if we get the player at a better deal for the club then I don't care how long it takes. The way some want us to splash money around is strange in my opinion.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Ross on July 26, 2011, 12:19:10 PM
Some people attitudes to our spending on here amaze me, I cant beleive they would spend their money the same way they are expecting the club to. With no evidence at all we are being accused of dragging our feet, not being willing to pay the money, risking out on losing the player. As someone else pointed out how do you know its not Blues stalling on the deal trying to see if other offers come in to start a bidding war.

Personally I think paying 75% of his wages is a good deal on the face of it, however if a deal could be done where we pay 50% of his wages then paying 75% is a poor deal and bad business for the club.

As for not spending the money, Mulumbu has just signed his 3rd improved contract in 12 months, theres a record deal supposedly on the table for Odemwingie and Gera deal all but done, all on good money. Without our dealings and negotiations in the tranfer markets onver the past 6/7 years we would not be near the position we are in now but it is still not good enough for some people

Not arguing, he has been very shrewd, but to take it to the next level an secure ourselves as a premier league club we need to change our mentality - look at the likes of teams around us Bolton, Fulham, Stoke etc have all progressed into midtable teams through spending a bit of loot.

Bargain basement is going to work - as we have seen over the past few years, but every time its a gamble -- fortunately a lot of ours have come off - but you cant ride that luck forever, especially as we are trying to establish ourselves i the prem - something which we havent done before
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Astle1968 on July 26, 2011, 12:25:33 PM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: OldburyWBA on July 26, 2011, 12:27:58 PM
If we only get him for 12 months then so be it, a few weeks ago people were pleased with possibly getting Given for only 1 year so whats changed ?

Any deal will only be done if suitable for West Bromwich Albion Football Club, simples, whether in terms of money or in terms of contract between us and Blues.

Yes its frustrating how long things take and at times we could go that 'little' bit further than we do but tough it won't happen.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Astle1968 on July 26, 2011, 12:38:01 PM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on July 26, 2011, 12:43:17 PM
Not arguing, he has been very shrewd, but to take it to the next level an secure ourselves as a premier league club we need to change our mentality - look at the likes of teams around us Bolton, Fulham, Stoke etc have all progressed into midtable teams through spending a bit of loot.

The two teams in bold both of have benefactors putting money into the club. We don't. Hence the reason both Fulham and Stoke are able to spend more money than ourselves. We have to spend what we have wisely in comparison to those two.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: dangerman on July 26, 2011, 12:53:17 PM
Not arguing, he has been very shrewd, but to take it to the next level an secure ourselves as a premier league club we need to change our mentality - look at the likes of teams around us Bolton, Fulham, Stoke etc have all progressed into midtable teams through spending a bit of loot.

Bargain basement is going to work - as we have seen over the past few years, but every time its a gamble -- fortunately a lot of ours have come off - but you cant ride that luck forever, especially as we are trying to establish ourselves i the prem - something which we havent done before

Ok so we spend extra money we haven't got to become a topmid table team.

What next? Spend a little more so that we can play in Europe.

Where does it stop?

This is exactly how the Leeds situation started. They wanted to spend a bit more to play champions league football.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: WBAinDEVON on July 26, 2011, 01:43:28 PM
Maybe the more we spend the higher we finish the more attractive we become for a decent reliable bid to purchase the club.
Lets just hope billionaires who own football clubs bubbles burst
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: WorcsWBA on July 26, 2011, 01:45:22 PM
12 months ago nobody would have dreamt we would be going in for Given, or even Freidel possibly,
It's easy to go for anyone - who you actually sign is all that counts. Some people have been happy with Bosmans on the basis that money is being concentrated on key signings. I think there's a difference between paying what you can afford and trying to squeeze every last penny out of a deal even if it risks losing out on the player. If we don't get key signings (such as Foster) of the quality we need because of our not unusual games of brinkmanship, then questions should rightly be asked IMO.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Astle1968 on July 26, 2011, 01:54:46 PM
It's easy to go for anyone - who you actually sign is all that counts. Some people have been happy with Bosmans on the basis that money is being concentrated on key signings. I think there's a difference between paying what you can afford and trying to squeeze every last penny out of a deal even if it risks losing out on the player. If we don't get key signings (such as Foster) of the quality we need because of our not unusual games of brinkmanship, then questions should rightly be asked IMO.

My point is we lost out because 2 bigger clubs came in, not because we were not prepared to pay what the players wanted. In this siuation I really dont understand how the club can win. We either go for established PL players like Given and Freidel in this case, who we know will improve us but will 9 times out of 10 have clubs slightly above us (Stoke, Fulham, Bolton etc) trying to sign them as well. Or we sign an 'unknown' (Odemwingie) gamble and hope it comes off.

As for the Foster comment, I completely agree that if we lose out on a player that is obtainable to us because we are not prepared to pay money that is both within our budget and offers value for money then questions should rightly be asked, espeically as the club seem to have identified him as our number one target in that position. However it seems these questions are already being asked, with blame being dished out to certain individuals at the club on the basis that we havnt finalised the deal just a few days after our first official interest was noted
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: baggieboyjop on July 26, 2011, 02:03:33 PM

This is exactly how the Leeds situation started. They wanted to spend a bit more to play champions league football.

Completely agree with you here mate, people need to look a bit more long term and i know thats what we always end up saying here at the albion but its true. If you look back to our first premier league season and the squad we had then and the squad we have now then its a vast improvement and every time we have come back up it has been a slight improvement which for me shows that the plan is working and we are slowly but surely becoming a good side. And then if we survive this season then it will be our first time we have spent 3 consecutive seasons in the premier league which again shows we are slowly building up to be a solid premiere league side.

But as for foster, i like everyone else would love to see him down the albion and hope we get it done soon so that we avoid the disappointment of losing out on him but we have to remember that he is a highly rated keeper al over the country so a lot of teams are probably keeping tabs on him, so if a bigger team came in and offered a higher fee and better wages and he went there then i'd say to try not to get too down, we didnt lose him because we've messed around, we will have lost him purely because he got a better offer which for a team of our size isnt something we should be getting annoyed over imo
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: leeiswba on July 26, 2011, 02:08:53 PM
People need to understand that teams like Fulham and Stoke have very very rich owners who pump their money into the club and we dont. Just be patient I dont care if it takes till 12th August to sign Foster if he is playing on the 14th against Yanited
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: smethwickw on July 26, 2011, 02:13:22 PM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: leeiswba on July 26, 2011, 02:16:47 PM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Mike on July 26, 2011, 02:17:53 PM
A lot rests on this deal.  I'm all for him been very carefull, even if it does costs us the odd player, as overall he gets great value for the club.  This situation is different though.  JP should immediately pay the couple of hundred thousand pounds that we seem to be fighting over.  Securing a key position and keeping our manager satisfied is worth conceding a few hundred thousand for.  If it were over say a back up player, such as, Ridgewell or a Ridgewell, i would fully understand.  However, it appears that we are fighting over a couple of hundred thousand over a player/position that will prove critical to our season and ultimately our future.   
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: WorcsWBA on July 26, 2011, 02:19:57 PM
My point is we lost out because 2 bigger clubs came in, not because we were not prepared to pay what the players wanted.
We don't know that though do we because, presumably, it never reached the stage where we got to discuss personal terms with the players?
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Astle1968 on July 26, 2011, 02:35:36 PM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: VVVAlbion on July 26, 2011, 02:39:01 PM
We missed out to Stoke on Carew's wages - how much did that manage to save us? :D

Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: graka on July 26, 2011, 02:47:33 PM
for me if roy wants foster and long and there wages are not silly and it will cost us around 12 mill then get them. afterall we would have budgeted for relegation so the extra 30 mill is a bonus.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Astle1968 on July 26, 2011, 03:03:56 PM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: saml30 on July 26, 2011, 03:28:24 PM
I would be "peed" as well, if Foster scored against us.

but possible with boaz in goal  ;D
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Greenock Baggie on July 26, 2011, 03:48:34 PM
Just on SKY that Ipsh!t have signed the Fulham goalkeeper so we need to pull our finger out so we dont lose out on this guy to another team
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Floydy on July 26, 2011, 03:57:44 PM
Just on SKY that Ipsh!t have signed the Fulham goalkeeper so we need to pull our finger out so we dont lose out on this guy to another team

Ipswich have signed Fulhams 2nd keeper Stockdale - Schwarzer is still their first choice. They will not be in the market for a new no. 1
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: JDWest_Brom on July 26, 2011, 03:58:05 PM
Stockdale has gone to a Championship team on loan. Only because Fulham wanted a 24 hour recall clause which they couldn't have loaning him to a Premiership team.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Greenock Baggie on July 26, 2011, 04:09:00 PM
Ipswich have signed Fulhams 2nd keeper Stockdale - Schwarzer is still their first choice. They will not be in the market for a new no. 1
Yes I know its Stockdale but wasnt the rumour that Wenger wanted him as 2bnd string goalie and that if Arsenal didnt get him, they COULD then go for Foster, our main target ??
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: B_H_Baggie on July 26, 2011, 04:18:56 PM
You can't believe all rumours, Stockdale was only ever likely to go to a Championship club on loan for the reason JD said and it has been widely reported for weeks that the lad has been set to sign a new long term deal with Fulham which he has done. As for Arsenal there have been very few rumours about an interest in Foster, nothing at all to substantiate them.

As far as I know we are the only club with a genuine interest in Foster as Hodgson has admitted to talks going on between the two clubs about him.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: graka on July 26, 2011, 04:33:46 PM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: RedHead_Baggie on July 26, 2011, 04:42:59 PM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Astle1968 on July 26, 2011, 04:43:26 PM
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Post by: WSBaggie on July 26, 2011, 04:56:58 PM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Greenock Baggie on July 26, 2011, 04:58:10 PM
For a club with "so-called" serious aspirations of staying in the Premier league and has actually been in that league for something like 5 out of the last 10 or 11 seasons, 12million on 2 or 3 players is an absolute pittance.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Astle1968 on July 26, 2011, 05:03:20 PM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Greenock Baggie on July 26, 2011, 05:05:31 PM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: lordbaggie on July 26, 2011, 05:06:51 PM
Not arguing, he has been very shrewd, but to take it to the next level an secure ourselves as a premier league club we need to change our mentality - look at the likes of teams around us Bolton, Fulham, Stoke etc have all progressed into midtable teams through spending a bit of loot.

Bargain basement is going to work - as we have seen over the past few years, but every time its a gamble -- fortunately a lot of ours have come off - but you cant ride that luck forever, especially as we are trying to establish ourselves i the prem - something which we havent done before

And so did Blues, West Ham and Boro' - spending doesn't bring with it any guarantees
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Astle1968 on July 26, 2011, 05:11:51 PM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Dan on July 26, 2011, 05:22:44 PM
There is a massive difference over not paying extornionate fee's, and not paying a few hundred thousand more on a deal which is already much cheaper than we'd have first thought anyway.

Buying someone like Long for 8m is reckless, paying a couple of hundred k more for  Foster is sensible. Goalkeeper is the most important position we will buy for this season, given the fact his deal is apparently much cheaper than anyone could ever have thought, paying a tiny bit extra isn't going to bankrupt anyone.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: B_H_Baggie on July 26, 2011, 05:24:37 PM
The thing is though Dan is it just a few hundred thousand stopping a deal going through for Foster or are you jumping to conclusions based on very little information? None of us know what the financial details of any proposed deals are.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Greenock Baggie on July 26, 2011, 05:29:18 PM
The thing is though Dan is it just a few hundred thousand stopping a deal going through for Foster or are you jumping to conclusions based on very little information? None of us know what the financial details of any proposed deals are.
I fully take on board we should NOT be held to ransom over signing players at extortionate prices and just bend over and take it ! However, it just strikes me that we, more than any other club I know, fanny about when it comes to signing players. You never hear of other clubs, even ones that we know about, having the pallarva that we have practically every time we sign or look to sign a player.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: B_H_Baggie on July 26, 2011, 05:34:06 PM
I only look at general transfer news when it comes to other clubs but with Albion I look into every little story and link all the time so I honestly couldn't give you an answer about whether other clubs 'fanny about' with transfers or not. In all honesty I doubt you could either unless you are following other clubs and their news as closely as you do Albion.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Greenock Baggie on July 26, 2011, 05:36:11 PM
I only look at general transfer news when it comes to other clubs but with Albion I look into every little story and link all the time so I honestly couldn't give you an answer about whether other clubs 'fanny about' with transfers or not. In all honesty I doubt you could either unless you are following other clubs and their news as closely as you do Albion.
Point taken but with 90% of signings other clubs make, you hear about it one day and they player is signed then next, or a week at the most, with us, its months !
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: B_H_Baggie on July 26, 2011, 05:49:02 PM
Depends what news sources you read, I've seen clubs linked with a lot of players in the past that seem to take months to get deals done. Take Wolves and Roger Johnson as an example, they admited they made their initial contact with Birmingham the week the season finished but only sealed the deal about a week or two ago. In comparison to Foster who wasn't even known to be a target of ours until it was confirmed that Given wasn't interested in joining us and a day or two after our move for Vaughan broke down, what was that two or three weeks ago?
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: DudleyBaggieFan on July 26, 2011, 07:25:51 PM
Foster starting for blues tonight. Lets hope it's his last game for them ;D
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: hardtobeat on July 26, 2011, 07:58:55 PM
Foster starting for blues tonight. Lets hope it's his last game for them ;D
Tends to suggest his leaving them is still some way off?
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Kicking Pigeons on July 26, 2011, 08:05:29 PM
Tends to suggest his leaving them is still some way off?
Not really. Didn't Greening play for us against Newcastle in the first game of the 2009-10 season and then a week later he signed for Fulham?
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: KingKoren on July 26, 2011, 08:07:21 PM
Not really. Didn't Greening play for us against Newcastle in the first game of the 2009-10 season and then a week later he signed for Fulham?

Not sure but Damien Duff played (scored as well) and signed for Fulham a week later.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Dexy on July 26, 2011, 08:10:20 PM
Not really. Didn't Greening play for us against Newcastle in the first game of the 2009-10 season and then a week later he signed for Fulham?
Greening played the Newcastle game,Forest away(made the goal) then was pulled out the squad for Peterborough away and departed for Fulham shortly after.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: wba2004 on July 26, 2011, 08:11:46 PM
Greening played the Newcastle game,Forest away(made the goal) then was pulled out the squad for Peterborough away and departed for Fulham shortly after.

Looks like we posted the same thing at the same time lol  :D
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Astle1968 on July 26, 2011, 08:24:12 PM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: off_foo_182 on July 26, 2011, 08:34:03 PM
We have the opportunity to sign a class keeper, we should be snapping their hands off! Just pay the F*cking money albion, hardly going to lose out. Won t it be a loan to buy? Stupid to just loan him, stump up the cash and get him permanently.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Aztech on July 26, 2011, 08:37:12 PM
I would be more than happy if we could sign Foster.

However it is interesting that people claimed there was not a rush of premier league clubs to sign Carson, surely the same could be said of Foster!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Baggie Artist on July 26, 2011, 08:41:09 PM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: DudleyBaggieFan on July 26, 2011, 09:03:57 PM
He's let one in against Oxford. Blues losing 1-0 lol!

Need to sign him up ASAP IMO.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: DudleyBaggieFan on July 26, 2011, 09:36:43 PM
Blues lost 2-0 so he let 2 in! Oh well ay.

Tie his wages up JP! I'm getting impatient now ;D :P
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Aztech on July 26, 2011, 10:45:02 PM
Just watched an interview with Sam Allerdyce on sky sports.

When asked if he was expecting another bid from West Brom for Green, he said no they have signed Foster.  ;D
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: KingKoren on July 26, 2011, 10:47:32 PM
Just watched an interview with Sam Allerdyce on sky sports.

When asked if he was expecting another bid from West Brom for Green, he said no they have signed Foster.  ;D

Coming from fat Sam it must be true.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: DudleyBaggieFan on July 26, 2011, 10:47:55 PM
This deal could happen ASAP or not at all. Hearing strong reports of twitter that blues are going into admin. This might spell the end for this deal but could also mean we get him cheaper. Who knows.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: DudleyBaggieFan on July 26, 2011, 10:49:38 PM
This deal could happen ASAP or not at all. Hearing strong reports of twitter that blues are going into admin. This might spell the end for this deal but could also mean we get him cheaper. Who knows.

Also rumored on Facebook now.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Aztech on July 26, 2011, 10:51:53 PM
Mirror Sport - back page.

Brum and Busted!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: DudleyBaggieFan on July 26, 2011, 10:52:23 PM
Still only rumors that they are going in. But if they are, and yes it's bad news for them and midland football, but could this mean we could get foster on a reduced permanent deal?
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Aztech on July 26, 2011, 10:54:17 PM
Still only rumors that they are going in. But if they are, and yes it's bad news for them and midland football, but could this mean we could get foster on a reduced permanent deal?

Foster, Dann and Jerome 1.5 million

Jeremy is on his way to the fire sale as we speak!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: KingKoren on July 26, 2011, 10:54:53 PM
Lets get Scott Dann as well  8)

Foster and Dann for a couple of million  ;D
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: DudleyBaggieFan on July 26, 2011, 10:56:43 PM
Lets get Scott Dann as well  8)

Foster and Dann for a couple of million  ;D

Throw in ridgewell for good measure. And it's a deal.

All honesty now. This and deal for ridgewell might start picking up very fast if this information is true regarding blues!

Interesting to see big sams comments on SSN.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: DudleyBaggieFan on July 26, 2011, 10:59:09 PM
Got a gut feeling this deal will be confirmed by midday tommorow. On a permanent contract too. You heard it here first ;D.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: KingKoren on July 26, 2011, 11:02:24 PM
My only worry would be if Arsenal see this an opportunity to get a good goalkeeper on the cheap now.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: DudleyBaggieFan on July 26, 2011, 11:05:09 PM
My only worry would be if Arsenal see this an opportunity to get a good goalkeeper on the cheap now.

I don't think this will be an issue. Foster had said himself if I recall that he is settles here and wants to stay in the area. Arsenal have better keepers than foster IMO so I don't think this will be an issue.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: KingKoren on July 26, 2011, 11:06:34 PM
I don't think this will be an issue. Foster had said himself if I recall that he is settles here and wants to stay in the area. Arsenal have better keepers than foster IMO so I don't think this will be an issue.

That's good then. But which goalkeeper is better than Foster at Arsenal?
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: addy on July 26, 2011, 11:08:53 PM
If they go into admin, so much for the loan deal mentioned of them buying him back if they get promoted. It will be near impossible with a points deduction. Hopefully we can tie a perm or loan to perm this week.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: DudleyBaggieFan on July 26, 2011, 11:09:49 PM
That's good then. But which goalkeeper is better than Foster at Arsenal?

IMHO fabianski. Alumnia (if he's still there)

Just saw SSN again and he seemed quite sure we've landed foster.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: KingKoren on July 26, 2011, 11:11:19 PM
IMHO fabianski. Alumnia (if he's still there)

Just saw SSN again and he seemed quite sure we've landed foster.

Don't rate either of them at all. Think Szczesny has fantastic potential though.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: bigbadjohn on July 26, 2011, 11:12:34 PM
What's ssn saying then ?
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: DudleyBaggieFan on July 26, 2011, 11:18:44 PM
What's ssn saying then ?

Big Sam was asked who placed a bid for green and he said us
Was then asked are negotiating continuing following the rejection and he said no because we have already signed foster.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: B_H_Baggie on July 26, 2011, 11:21:11 PM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: DudleyBaggieFan on July 26, 2011, 11:23:33 PM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: B_H_Baggie on July 26, 2011, 11:27:25 PM
No idea when he is back or if it has held anything up. Just pointing out that it may not have been us holding things up when so many have assumed that we have.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: addy on July 26, 2011, 11:28:39 PM
Now, City chief Peter Pannu has admitted the axe will have to fall and unpopular decisions will have to be made when he returns from the Far East - just one week before they kick off their Championship season.

Read more: http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Birmingham-financial-meltdown-Carson-Yeung-assets-frozen-player-sale-to-survive-new-Portsmouth-article776447.html#ixzz1TFlp8nEP
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: DudleyBaggieFan on July 26, 2011, 11:30:43 PM
Now, City chief Peter Pannu has admitted the axe will have to fall and unpopular decisions will have to be made when he returns from the Far East - just one week before they kick off their Championship season.

Read more: http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Birmingham-financial-meltdown-Carson-Yeung-assets-frozen-player-sale-to-survive-new-Portsmouth-article776447.html#ixzz1TFlp8nEP

So that's this weekend then. Hmm wonder if all deals regarding blues are on ice til he gets back or if deals will still happen even though he isn't in country?
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: KingKoren on July 26, 2011, 11:33:50 PM
So that's this weekend then. Hmm wonder if all deals regarding blues are on ice til he gets back or if deals will still happen even though he isn't in country?

Can't deals be done over the phone? Is Pannu the only person who can sanction a transfer? I'm pretty sure the deal can be done without him here.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Baggies on July 26, 2011, 11:34:32 PM
I think this is the time now to get Foster. The 4 million bid has to go in now, rake up the pressure before the other vultures come in. Looks like he should be ours the way they are going which would be great news.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: B_H_Baggie on July 26, 2011, 11:37:26 PM
Can't deals be done over the phone? Is Pannu the only person who can sanction a transfer? I'm pretty sure the deal can be done without him here.

You would expect so but the way that club has been run since they took over you really never know.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: The Joust on July 26, 2011, 11:38:21 PM
Big Sam was asked who placed a bid for green and he said us
Was then asked are negotiating continuing following the rejection and he said no because we have already signed foster.

Is that a quote? Bold statement to make that.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: addy on July 26, 2011, 11:42:27 PM
Big Sam our new ITK :D
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: B_H_Baggie on July 26, 2011, 11:44:35 PM
Is that a quote? Bold statement to make that.

He didn't quite say it like that, when asked if there was a chance we could negotiate a deal with them for Green he said something like they have already taken Foster haven't they.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: BaggieJames114 on July 26, 2011, 11:52:59 PM
More Blues news: Brmb understand that Ben Foster has agreed to join West Brom on loan. Deal could be done in next 24 hours #bcfc #wba
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Mulumbu99 on July 26, 2011, 11:53:41 PM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: KingKoren on July 26, 2011, 11:54:08 PM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: baggie_1 on July 26, 2011, 11:56:03 PM
Woohoo!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: The Joust on July 26, 2011, 11:56:27 PM
Chuffed with this. The club yet again moving in the right direction.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Kicking Pigeons on July 26, 2011, 11:57:06 PM
(http://dailykaizen.org/files/2006/04/303931751.jpg)
Me and a few mates upon hearing the news.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: bigbadjohn on July 26, 2011, 11:57:56 PM
Yessssss happy days :)
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: KingKoren on July 26, 2011, 11:59:05 PM
(http://dailykaizen.org/files/2006/04/303931751.jpg)
Me and a few mates upon hearing the news.

Is that you far right? - Nice moustache  ;D
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: The Joust on July 26, 2011, 11:59:36 PM
Once confirmed, I may do a Shearer celebration in the garden
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: B_H_Baggie on July 27, 2011, 12:00:05 AM
I await the last minute bid from Steve Bruce  :-X
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Kicking Pigeons on July 27, 2011, 12:01:08 AM
Is that you far right? - Nice moustache  ;D
Thank you. As you can tell from the picture, it's quite a babe magnet ;D.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: BaggieJames114 on July 27, 2011, 12:01:35 AM
Fantastic signing if its true, hope to see more about it in the morning and hope hes signed before Bristol City away
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: crazedwbafan18 on July 27, 2011, 12:01:58 AM
Yes, yes, yes, happy days and things are on the move finally!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Political Cake on July 27, 2011, 12:04:11 AM
I await the last minute bid from Steve Bruce  :-X

Just in on SSN ;D :P
Remember, Brucie doesn't sleep these days (although he does hibernate in the fabled "ice machine" to reduce the red colouring on his face) :P
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: westbrom4ever on July 27, 2011, 12:05:55 AM
Wonder why it's not a permanent deal, Birmingham are clearly in trouble financially.

We're broke? Maybe he isn't convinced we will stay up next year?

Either way he is an improvement on Carson, happy days!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: tipton baggie 80 on July 27, 2011, 12:09:08 AM
Wouldn't suprise me if it's a loan with a view to a permanent, and is just being reported as a loan.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: costa blanca baggie on July 27, 2011, 12:15:40 AM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: alex1 on July 27, 2011, 12:18:02 AM
Great news for Albion if its true. Definitely the best available keeper. A confident defence stems from a confident keeper. .. At the same time,  I take no pleasure in seeing what's happening at Blues. One of the few other clubs I have any liking for. Lesson for Albion. Steer clear of dodgy foreign owners. 
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Mossi28 on July 27, 2011, 12:20:18 AM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: lordbaggie on July 27, 2011, 12:22:57 AM
Great news for Albion if its true. Definitely the best available keeper. A confident defence stems from a confident keeper. .. At the same time,  I take no pleasure in seeing what's happening at Blues. One of the few other clubs I have any liking for. Lesson for Albion. Steer clear of dodgy foreign owners.

They never did quite clear that gypsy's curse, now, did they?
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Kicking Pigeons on July 27, 2011, 12:23:30 AM
Great news for Albion if its true. Definitely the best available keeper. A confident defence stems from a confident keeper. .. At the same time,  I take no pleasure in seeing what's happening at Blues. One of the few other clubs I have any liking for. Lesson for Albion. Steer clear of dodgy foreign owners.
Too true. Peace may be a frustrating penny-pincher but when you look at the catastrophes that have happened with so many other clubs due to dodgy foreign owners (Blues being the latest) it makes you grateful to have him.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: worcester baggie on July 27, 2011, 12:30:06 AM
great signing for us ,well happy with foster ..couple more quality signing and weem ready to kick some ass ..
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: lordbaggie on July 27, 2011, 12:39:38 AM
4m combined for Foster and Ridgewell - both permanent?   ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: WBArgo on July 27, 2011, 01:50:46 AM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: bangkokbaggie on July 27, 2011, 06:58:09 AM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: bradleysrocket on July 27, 2011, 08:48:49 AM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: B_H_Baggie on July 27, 2011, 09:02:01 AM
Not wanting pour cold water all over this source, but has there really been 15 signings in the last few days?

If you don't just focus on the Premier League and Championship there have been many more.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: B_H_Baggie on July 27, 2011, 09:03:20 AM
Colin Tattum has said we are set to get Foster on loan now too, I trust him more than Tom Ross thats for sure.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: BB74 on July 27, 2011, 09:11:20 AM
Colin Tattum has said we are set to get Foster on loan now too, I trust him more than Tom Ross thats for sure.

Why can we refer to Tom Ross and Colin Tattums claims of ITK but one mention of Lepko and it gets shot down and we are told not to discuss Lepkos claims on here but on a Brum Mail forum?
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: dangerman on July 27, 2011, 09:16:02 AM
Why can we refer to Tom Ross and Colin Tattums claims of ITK but one mention of Lepko and it gets shot down and we are told not to discuss Lepkos claims on here but on a Brum Mail forum?

Taken from the CL thread:

Quote from: OldburyWBA
Please feel free to discuss his stories but the comments about him personally are not welcomed on this site as he does not use the site himself.


Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: BB74 on July 27, 2011, 09:17:48 AM
Well before I posted a CL twitter quote and that got taken down, yet Tattum and Ross's quotes have stayed up. Wondered why?
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: dangerman on July 27, 2011, 09:20:48 AM
Well before I posted a CL twitter quote and that got taken down, yet Tattum and Ross's quotes have stayed up. Wondered why?

I don't know the answer to that, you'll have to ask one of the mods I guess?

Anyway, back on topic.

I said at the end of last season we should be in for Foster and I am chuffed that he is on the verge of signing. He is a definite improvement on Carson and Green, and he is the right choice for us.

Not counting my chickens just yet, but well done to the backroom staff should this one go through  :)
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: collins101 on July 27, 2011, 09:26:26 AM
Unless it's the Davies, Greening and Valero type of loan surely at the end of the 1st year another club can come in and bid 4mill aswell.. ?
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: BB74 on July 27, 2011, 09:27:18 AM
I think Foster is an excellent signing though, it will make a change to have a competent goalkeeper. Let's hope Dean and our fans don't destroy Foster though.

Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: duncan on July 27, 2011, 10:15:45 AM
I think Foster is an excellent signing though, it will make a change to have a competent goalkeeper. Let's hope Dean and our fans don't destroy Foster though.

So now our GK coach is to blame for Franks mistakes? I do love how we like to blame others. Is it not possible that Carson was error prone in his spell with us? #Carsonsfault

Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: BB74 on July 27, 2011, 10:18:15 AM
So now our GK coach is to blame for Franks mistakes? I do love how we like to blame others. Is it not possible that Carson was error prone in his spell with us? #Carsonsfault

I'm not the first to suggest this. The way a player is coached has a big impact on his game, whether you like that fact or not.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: smethwickw on July 27, 2011, 10:18:28 AM
I think Foster is an excellent signing though, it will make a change to have a competent goalkeeper. Let's hope Dean and our fans don't destroy Foster though.

I don't think they will. Carson destroyed himself. It's funny how most were saying we'd never get anyone better than Carson. There are pleny of better keepers out there. Foster is streets ahead though. A superb signing if it happens.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: greggy8689 on July 27, 2011, 10:29:21 AM
Unless it's the Davies, Greening and Valero type of loan surely at the end of the 1st year another club can come in and bid 4mill aswell.. ?

Imagine we will have priority option
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: greggy8689 on July 27, 2011, 10:31:00 AM
So now our GK coach is to blame for Franks mistakes? I do love how we like to blame others. Is it not possible that Carson was error prone in his spell with us? #Carsonsfault

Got to feel it was a factor but can't be bothered to discuss it again. Will be pleased with Foster if he signs.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: JDWest_Brom on July 27, 2011, 10:56:40 AM
Gregg Evans the Birmingham Mail reporter (who covers the Blues usually but is also covering the Albion this week) has tweeted 'BCFC contacts saying Foster could complete WBA move today'.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Londonbaggymike on July 27, 2011, 11:14:00 AM
Gregg Evans the Birmingham Mail reporter (who covers the Blues usually but is also covering the Albion this week) has tweeted saying BCFC contacts saying Foster could complete WBA move today.

So expect it to be announced on the OS on friday!

Great news if true.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: DudleyBaggieFan on July 27, 2011, 11:15:33 AM
I said last night that it could be done by midday! Might still be right :)
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Mister AT on July 27, 2011, 11:27:42 AM
Cracking signing.

Hope all you people saying we should just spend the 8 million to get him look at the situation now as we could well have got him for a lot less with all the trouble surrounding Blues.

Makes the Ridgewell bid not that insulting now.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Legend on July 27, 2011, 11:34:06 AM
I'd be very pleased with this if it comes off, Foster's a great keeper and an improvement on Carson.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Zebidee on July 27, 2011, 11:40:01 AM
Shame that blues may go into admin.. But it works to our advantage
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Mossi28 on July 27, 2011, 11:46:18 AM
Not wanting pour cold water all over this source, but has there really been 15 signings in the last few days?

This also includes Scotland and has just reported Henri Lansbury is back on his way to Norwich. I haven't seen him wrong yet.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: smethwickw on July 27, 2011, 11:48:42 AM
Gregg Evans the Birmingham Mail reporter (who covers the Blues usually but is also covering the Albion this week) has tweeted 'BCFC contacts saying Foster could complete WBA move today'.

Do you think they would have risked him in last nights friendly if the deal was that close? He played the full 90 mins.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: bradleysrocket on July 27, 2011, 11:56:36 AM
This also includes Scotland and has just reported Henri Lansbury is back on his way to Norwich. I haven't seen him wrong yet.
yeah Ive checked him out and it seems sound enough , by his own admission hes only relaying news from elsewhere though. Still the noises from all over look positive regarding foster. Good signing either loan or permanent.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: DudleyBaggieFan on July 27, 2011, 12:11:07 PM
Do you think they would have risked him in last nights friendly if the deal was that close? He played the full 90 mins.

Possibly yes. Might have been a final game in front of their fans. Goal keepers rarely play 90 mins in friendly IMO. So might have been a farewell?
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: bigbadjohn on July 27, 2011, 12:12:08 PM
i reckon foster will be in the team for the bristol city game ;)
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: wba1968-Tim on July 27, 2011, 12:22:21 PM
E&S think its a done deal then

http://www.expressandstar.com/sport/west-bromwich-albion-fc/2011/07/27/albion-set-to-seal-ben-foster-deal/

Really good signing  :D
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Tipton Baggie on July 27, 2011, 12:28:23 PM
E&S think its a done deal then

http://www.expressandstar.com/sport/west-bromwich-albion-fc/2011/07/27/albion-set-to-seal-ben-foster-deal/

Really good signing  :D
When its official I'll be happy.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: greggy8689 on July 27, 2011, 12:35:29 PM
This also includes Scotland and has just reported Henri Lansbury is back on his way to Norwich. I haven't seen him wrong yet.

Who is it?
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: DudleyBaggieFan on July 27, 2011, 12:35:57 PM
Happy with this. Over the moon actually!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: bradleysrocket on July 27, 2011, 12:39:13 PM
Who is it?
a guy tweeting under the name fourth_official I believe.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: B_H_Baggie on July 27, 2011, 12:44:26 PM
a guy tweeting under the name fourth_official I believe.

Two blokes I think, they have been wrong before but they just relay news and aren't ITK as such.

Especially with this one as they have told us nothing we don't already know about Foster.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: B_H_Baggie on July 27, 2011, 12:52:57 PM
Gregg Evans replying to someone on twitter who asked about Foster: It is expected to go through today or tomorrow, will tweet more later
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: baggie_1 on July 27, 2011, 01:03:03 PM
im hearing its done ??
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Barrington on July 27, 2011, 01:05:48 PM
I'll be well chuffed if this goes through. A marked improvement in the goalkeeping position from last season. This is essentially what we need to keep doing in order to consolidate in the league. Well done to Ashworth, Peace and Hodgson if we pull it off.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Greenock Baggie on July 27, 2011, 01:06:43 PM
What was it that Nicky Reid said after scoring the second goal at Wembley in the play-off final.

AT f******* LAST !!!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: alwaysbilly on July 27, 2011, 01:17:28 PM
What was it that Nicky Reid said after scoring the second goal at Wembley in the play-off final.

AT f******* LAST !!!

I think youll find he actually said 'get F***** In!'
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: dangerman on July 27, 2011, 01:18:50 PM
im hearing its done ??

Not until it's on the official site will I believe anything! Sorry  :)
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: baggie_1 on July 27, 2011, 01:20:31 PM
Not until it's on the official site will I believe anything! Sorry  :)
but im ITK.......im not. just joking before people start  :P  just a few people saying it. few people saying photographers are at the ground
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: dangerman on July 27, 2011, 01:22:24 PM
but im ITK.......im not just joking before people start  :P  just a few people saying it. few people saying photographers are at the ground

Yes there is a lot of tweets flying around.  But surely he would be at the training ground and not at the Hawthorns?
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: DudleyBaggieFan on July 27, 2011, 01:22:42 PM
but im ITK.......im not just joking before people start  :P  just a few people saying it. few people saying photographers are at the ground

Wouldn't he be unveiled at training ground not hawthorns?
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: DaveWBA on July 27, 2011, 01:26:21 PM
Not until it's on the official site will I believe anything! Sorry  :)

11.55pm on 31st August then  ;)
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: KnaveofAlbion on July 27, 2011, 01:27:03 PM
The classic photo is on the steps of the stadium isn't it? scarf over your head, wearing a shirt....
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: JDWest_Brom on July 27, 2011, 01:29:30 PM
Have we got any steps at the front of the ground? Isn't ours either with the Albion sign in the background by the Brummy Road End or in the stadium on the seats?
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: baggie_1 on July 27, 2011, 01:35:38 PM
its usualy done in the east stand i think
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: WBAinDEVON on July 27, 2011, 01:38:44 PM
I thought of late a new signing was pictured at the training ground by the crest
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: BB74 on July 27, 2011, 01:50:38 PM
I thought of late a new signing was pictured at the training ground by the crest

The majority have. The Hawthorns is now used only as a Match Day Venue. (Ticket Office and Club Shop apart).

The training ground is now the place where it all happens.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: JDWest_Brom on July 27, 2011, 01:52:53 PM
Must just be tourists at the ground then.  ;D
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: baggie_1 on July 27, 2011, 01:53:54 PM
where do the press confrences happen?
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: OldburyWBA on July 27, 2011, 01:57:27 PM
First pictures these days tend to be at the training ground. The ones at the ground are usually after the press conference.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: DudleyBaggieFan on July 27, 2011, 02:15:09 PM
SSN just reported we've agreed a loan deal with view to making it permanent next summer
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Barrington on July 27, 2011, 02:17:13 PM
Best signing so far if true then : )
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: lordbaggie on July 27, 2011, 02:46:31 PM
Second best.

After Mulumbu  ;D
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Lloydy on July 27, 2011, 04:21:31 PM
Fee and personal terms agreed, just a medical for Ben to pass now.

http://www.birminghammail.net/birmingham-sport/west-bromwich-albion-fc/west-bromwich-albion-fc-news/2011/07/27/baggies-view-west-bromwich-albion-close-in-on-ben-foster-loan-deal-97319-29129931/
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: baggieboyjop on July 27, 2011, 04:26:02 PM
Brlliant news if true. And if its not true now i'll be in a seriously fowl mood for the rest of the week now i've got my hopes up  ???  ;D

In all seriosness, this is a top move by the club and hopefully now we can all move on from the keeper saga
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: B_H_Baggie on July 27, 2011, 04:27:06 PM
Never fully understood personal terms when it comes to loan deals, is it a new contract drawn up for the loan spell or do the clubs agree how much they each pay towards his current deal at the parent club?

With that said I suppose in this case if it is with a view to a permanent deal I imagine we would have had to come to an arrangement about his contract come the end of the initial loan spell should it become a permanent transfer.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: dangerman on July 27, 2011, 04:33:36 PM
Never fully understood personal terms when it comes to loan deals, is it a new contract drawn up for the loan spell or do the clubs agree how much they each pay towards his current deal at the parent club?

With that said I suppose in this case if it is with a view to a permanent deal I imagine we would have had to come to an arrangement about his contract come the end of the initial loan spell should it become a permanent transfer.

My understanding is that the two clubs agree how much of the wages each club pays.

If it is a loan to perm deal (aka a JP special) then I would assume some kind of wage deal (for the perm deal) would need to be agreed in principle before joining us on loan.

That is my guess.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: baggieboyjop on July 27, 2011, 04:38:18 PM
Yes, i'm with dangerman, i think its to do with the clubs sorting out the percentage of wages we will pay and if its one of those 'view to a permenant' then they'll probably be talking that through too
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Perrybarrbaggy on July 27, 2011, 04:53:14 PM
And probably bonuses in his contract too, such as app fee and clean sheet etc
Need to be discussed
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: smethwickw on July 27, 2011, 04:54:58 PM
And probably bonuses in his contract too, such as app fee and clean sheet etc
Need to be discussed

No need to worry about that one. ;D
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: dangerman on July 27, 2011, 04:55:15 PM
And probably bonuses in his contract too, such as app fee and clean sheet etc
Need to be discussed

If he can get us five clean sheets next season then it's money well spent in my opinion lol
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: BB74 on July 27, 2011, 04:57:04 PM
If he can get us five clean sheets next season then it's money well spent in my opinion lol

Houlty will sleep tight again next season. No one will be beating 27 clean sheets for a long long time.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: baggie_1 on July 27, 2011, 04:58:31 PM
If he can get us five clean sheets next season then it's money well spent in my opinion lol
well hes got a massive target of 2 clean sheets to break  ;) ;D
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Greenock Baggie on July 27, 2011, 04:59:05 PM
Houlty will sleep tight again next season. No one will be beating 27 clean sheets for a long long time.
27 in the championship though. Bully scored loads of goals but in the lower leagues and I dont see anyone saying he's a better scorer than Bomber who got most of his in the top league
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: phbaggies on July 27, 2011, 04:59:17 PM
Houlty will sleep tight again next season. No one will be beating 27 clean sheets for a long long time.
Let him sign for us before you start knocking him ay!  ;)
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: BB74 on July 27, 2011, 05:02:44 PM
Let him sign for us before you start knocking him ay!  ;)

Huh?!  ??? Im not knocking him one bit! I am just stating that 27 clean sheets in a season was an exceptional record and it will be years before any beats that. It was not  knocking Foster it was stating the bleeding obvious.

Take a look at my view on the Foster signing a bit earlier, I praised the signing.

You happy clappers are too quick to jump on the defensive bandwagon. 
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: royhan on July 27, 2011, 05:04:45 PM
These loans, then permanent, deals are so complicated. It's no wonder that this one has dragged on for so long.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: bigbadjohn on July 27, 2011, 05:09:51 PM
West Bromwich Albion are in talks to sign Birmingham goalkeeper Ben Foster, BBC Sport understands.
But sources have indicated that the move is not expected to be finalised on Wednesday as talks continue between the two clubs.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: kris_boing on July 27, 2011, 05:12:34 PM
27 in the championship though. Bully scored loads of goals but in the lower leagues and I dont see anyone saying he's a better scorer than Bomber who got most of his in the top league

and was technically a midfielder.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: DudleyBaggieFan on July 27, 2011, 05:13:13 PM
How gutted would we all be if we've come this far, agreed terms etc. And he fails his medical! ;D

Hope this is completed today or at latest this time tomorrow.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Greenock Baggie on July 27, 2011, 05:16:55 PM
I do agree with your statement though BB74, it was / is a hell of a record :o
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: kris_boing on July 27, 2011, 05:19:32 PM
He has the ability to become England Number 1.  I know Hart has the jersey at the minute and deservedly so but I see Foster as next in line.

Also having him in goal will surely mean the defence will feel more comfortable than when Carson was in goal.

This will be a cracking signing.

Still love another centre back though then the defence is sorted IMO.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: baggieboyjop on July 27, 2011, 05:26:33 PM
How gutted would we all be if we've come this far, agreed terms etc. And he fails his medical! ;D

Hope this is completed today or at latest this time tomorrow.

Agree, this is one i really dont want to drag out as the keeper situation needs to be sorted this week imo so the defence and keeper can get to know each other and how they will work together
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: DudleyBaggieFan on July 27, 2011, 05:41:38 PM
I wonder. If he hadn't of player yesterday. And this deal would of been completed this morning. Would he travel to play tonight?
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: A5HB on July 27, 2011, 05:47:07 PM
I wonder. If he hadn't of player yesterday. And this deal would of been completed this morning. Would he travel to play tonight?

I don't think they would have bothered to be honest, if they are splitting the squad between the 3 friendlies this week Myhill would probably always play tonight and then Foster potentially at the weekend.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: DudleyBaggieFan on July 27, 2011, 05:50:47 PM
I don't think they would have bothered to be honest, if they are splitting the squad between the 3 friendlies this week Myhill would probably always play tonight and then Foster potentially at the weekend.

True. He should get game time against city then!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: DudleyBaggieFan on July 27, 2011, 05:53:21 PM
Baggie 79 on twitter has said foster deal done.

With Foster done im happy with the squad as it is but do fans want more?

Maybe it just needs to be confirmed on OS tomorrow?
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: j_dog_1980 on July 27, 2011, 05:56:46 PM
Good news! Good keeper!

With Gera move well on the cards i just want another striker and maybe a defender please!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Baggies on July 27, 2011, 06:09:58 PM
Great signing. I suppose Albions view is that they now have a year to either drive the price down (if Blues financial problems grow) or even get somebody else in if Foster isnt value for money.

Either way, for the next season we have signed a very good goalkeeper.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: matt_home1 on July 27, 2011, 06:41:48 PM
Could we technically make a loan deal perm Outside The transfer window ??
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Londonbaggymike on July 27, 2011, 06:53:28 PM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: A5HB on July 27, 2011, 07:52:40 PM
greggevans40 Gregg Evans
#wba Foster signing not going to happen tonight.

greggevans40 Gregg Evans
#wba Frustrating waiting for signings, but Foster deal is close. Can't say when it will be announced because I just don't know yet.


Not really a surprise I guess, these things do take time to go through properly, especially if we are waiting for scan results from a medical etc, would hope this is all sorted tomorrow.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: reiss on July 27, 2011, 08:09:26 PM
Have we signed Foster
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: addy on July 27, 2011, 08:13:33 PM
Have we signed Foster

No, not yet.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: DudleyBaggieFan on July 27, 2011, 08:21:46 PM
No, not yet.

i thought it was a done deal earlier, and now its not?
are we progressing in this deal or going backwards?
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: addy on July 27, 2011, 08:25:34 PM
i thought it was a done deal earlier, and now its not?
are we progressing in this deal or going backwards?

It would have been announced if he has signed, he has not as of yet. There has been no suggestion the deal is going backwards, just waiting for medical results I presume so we can finish the deal tomorrow.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: wbarenno on July 27, 2011, 08:38:22 PM
Get foster in with gera then sign a striker and a defender and it would be a great summer for us

Get rid of miller,bednar,mattock and tamas and id say we would have got rid of
Our deadwood and have a good squad.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: wba1993dave on July 27, 2011, 09:05:59 PM
have patience he is most likely having a medical tommorow
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: The Joust on July 27, 2011, 10:52:14 PM
have patience he is most likely having a medical tommorow

Me too but there's not many who do on here sadly...
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Jack Russell on July 27, 2011, 10:53:19 PM
I totally understand the panic
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: graka on July 27, 2011, 10:53:41 PM
think were still closing in or monitoring his situation.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: tommi on July 27, 2011, 11:10:29 PM
The deal is all bar rubber stamped.

No need to panic right now
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: addy on July 27, 2011, 11:20:55 PM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: DudleyBaggieFan on July 27, 2011, 11:48:28 PM
Myhill going the other way might explain why it's taking it's time. Both contracts have to be agreed before the deal can be made. It's making more sense now.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: WSBaggie on July 28, 2011, 02:26:25 AM
think were still closing in or monitoring his situation.

I agree mate think we're still 'monitoring' him haha
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: boinger1968 on July 28, 2011, 06:13:41 AM
Another article from the Guardian:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/jul/28/ben-foster-west-bromwich-albion-birmingham
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: wbarenno on July 28, 2011, 06:40:11 AM
If myhil goes we need another keeper
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: kris_boing on July 28, 2011, 06:47:31 AM
The papers have reported that we are looking for two keepers all summer.  I see Foster as first choice so doubt we'll go for Green or PIG now as they wont want to be number 2.

Think we'll get a young keeper from the continent.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: greggy8689 on July 28, 2011, 08:01:55 AM
All makes sense really if they're looking to take Myhill the other way and I expect Ridgewell negotiations are taking place at the same time. These things take time so everyone has to relax.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: phbaggies on July 28, 2011, 09:06:29 AM
Is Kawashima still on the East Stand Car Park waiting for us to sign him??  ;)
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: dan7heman on July 28, 2011, 09:48:26 AM
Can this thread hurry up and go into general please.... :'(
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: DudleyBaggieFan on July 28, 2011, 09:56:28 AM
Still reports going round that he will be ours by this afternoon.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: bigbadjohn on July 28, 2011, 10:02:15 AM
this should defo be wrapped up today shouldnt it !!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: greggy8689 on July 28, 2011, 10:06:46 AM
this should defo be wrapped up today shouldnt it !!

Who knows be patient, no one fully knows the ins and outs of the deal
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Savvas78 on July 28, 2011, 10:10:42 AM
I'm pretty relaxed that this deal will be concluded and Foster will be our player soon.

Famous last words!  :-X
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: bigbadjohn on July 28, 2011, 10:12:38 AM
Does anyone know why it always seems to be our club where deals drag on ? like other clubs get linked bid and then hes signed ? We always takes ages with any deal  ;D
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: phbaggies on July 28, 2011, 10:17:39 AM
Does anyone know why it always seems to be our club where deals drag on ? like other clubs get linked bid and then hes signed ? We always takes ages with any deal  ;D
Not neccesarily N'Zogbia fee has been agreed for a week or so now but he still aint a Villa player!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Baggie.coop on July 28, 2011, 10:21:32 AM
Does anyone know why it always seems to be our club where deals drag on ? like other clubs get linked bid and then hes signed ? We always takes ages with any deal  ;D

i know what you mean other clubs seem to only take a few days to know if a players coming or not:

johnson to wolves - bid excepted 3 days later he was signed.
cole to stoke - bid excepted next day turned them down
aguero to man city - bid excepted next day signed

thats just a few examples and there clubs deals seem to be sorted out rather quickly either way.

albion - bid excepted, a month messing about and either another club swoops in or the player finally agrees to come.   ::)
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Mat15(MH) on July 28, 2011, 10:24:27 AM
Wolves said themselves they had contacted Blues about Johnson a week after they got relegated,and the deal only got completed what last week?

Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Baggie.coop on July 28, 2011, 10:26:37 AM
Wolves said themselves they had contacted Blues about Johnson a week after they got relegated,and the deal only got completed what last week?

i was not aware of that  :D ill be quiet.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Mat15(MH) on July 28, 2011, 10:28:15 AM
i was not aware of that  :D ill be quiet.

You're forgiven  ;)
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Savvas78 on July 28, 2011, 10:34:50 AM
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/transfers/ben-foster-set-for-west-brom-switch-2327376.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/transfers/ben-foster-set-for-west-brom-switch-2327376.html)

Read Kstandboyzonehandbag's comment below this article. Hilarious!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Yam Yam Baggie on July 28, 2011, 11:15:57 AM
How long has this gone on for now?? every day its "expected to sign today". i seriously wouldnt be surprised if he went elsewhere.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: WBAinDEVON on July 28, 2011, 11:22:36 AM
Nice to see text speak creeping back :D
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Lloydy on July 28, 2011, 11:23:12 AM
How long has this gone on for now?? every day its "expected to sign today". i seriously wouldnt be surprised if he went elsewhere.

He has agreed to join us, pending a medical he will sign. Stop worrying!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: eaststandbaggie on July 28, 2011, 11:23:49 AM
Seen this morning in Mc Donalds with Ridgewell ,Dann and Messi
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: WBAinDEVON on July 28, 2011, 11:24:23 AM
He has agreed to join us, pending a medical he will sign. Stop worrying!


Similar to Gera then.Keep stacking them up
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Lloydy on July 28, 2011, 11:25:57 AM

Similar to Gera then.Keep stacking them up

We're saving them all up for one massive press conference, there will be more players than journalists ;D
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Sussex-Baggie on July 28, 2011, 11:31:29 AM
I have spent most of the last day or so checking to see if he has signed every five or ten minutes, so hopefully it will all be finalised today!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: B_H_Baggie on July 28, 2011, 11:34:15 AM
Our medicals always seem to take a while to be fair, usually waiting for test results to come back. I would also hope that it is a very thorough medical given his history with injury.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: DudleyBaggieFan on July 28, 2011, 11:37:04 AM
I have spent most of the last day or so checking to see if he has signed every five or ten minutes, so hopefully it will all be finalised today!

You ain't the only one. I've been constantly checking too
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: DudleyBaggieFan on July 28, 2011, 11:37:31 AM
Our medicals always seem to take a while to be fair, usually waiting for test results to come back. I would also hope that it is a very thorough medical given his history with injury.

Be bad if he fails his medical due to past injuries.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: JDWest_Brom on July 28, 2011, 11:43:00 AM
I reckon he will fail the medical due to his knee. Then we will look to renegotiate terms with Blues and the deal will fall through.

Nothing like looking on the bright side.  :D
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Zebidee on July 28, 2011, 11:46:12 AM
Hope not :(
Then we would have green or sorensson :(
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Zebidee on July 28, 2011, 11:49:28 AM
Yes he's coming, no he isn't... Yes he's on his way, no he isn't.... Yes we signing him.. But he may fail his medical.... Argghhh!! This is doing my head in! Grr lol
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: PortsmouthBaggie on July 28, 2011, 11:54:10 AM
Chill out and just wait! Its not in any of our power so just watch some Jezza Kyle or something
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: WBAinDEVON on July 28, 2011, 11:58:09 AM
Any room left at the medical centre.Foster Gera & Hargreeves :D
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: WorcsWBA on July 28, 2011, 12:00:59 PM
Our medicals always seem to take a while to be fair, usually waiting for test results to come back.
I heard the Albion carrier pigeon has escaped and they're currently trying to catch it with a net!  ;D
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Mulumbu99 on July 28, 2011, 12:14:20 PM
http://www.smallheathalliance.com/read.php?1,610707

they aren't happy  ;D
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: greggy8689 on July 28, 2011, 12:17:00 PM
Wolves said themselves they had contacted Blues about Johnson a week after they got relegated,and the deal only got completed what last week?

I believe it all started in January so even further.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: wba1993dave on July 28, 2011, 12:22:07 PM
http://www.smallheathalliance.com/read.php?1,610707

they aren't happy  ;D

What a bunch of fools , they said we aint got star players , Odemwingie - 15 goals enough said lol
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: B_H_Baggie on July 28, 2011, 12:23:11 PM
http://www.smallheathalliance.com/read.php?1,610707

they aren't happy  ;D

Bless them, they don't think we can afford him or have any star players to sell to fund a move for him. Well the fact is we don't need to sell any of our stars lads as our club hasn't been run into the ground like yours has, enjoy your bleak looking future at the hands of your dodgy Chinese owner.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Mulumbu99 on July 28, 2011, 12:25:23 PM
anyone else heard he's failed a medical ? rumours going around on fb..
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Baggie Artist on July 28, 2011, 12:26:31 PM
If we went down and sold our best players to a club like Stoke or Blackburn, we wouldn't be happy either.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: phbaggies on July 28, 2011, 12:27:45 PM
anyone else heard he's failed a medical ? rumours going around on fb..
Im sure the last place it will be leaked is facebook, its just scaremongering by bored school kids no doubt!...I hope  :)
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Savvas78 on July 28, 2011, 12:28:00 PM
Quote
Bless them, they don't think we can afford him or have any star players to sell to fund a move for him.

If only we had star players that attract the likes of Fiorentina, or Bayern Munich, or Arsenal.  :P
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: DaveWBA on July 28, 2011, 12:28:20 PM
anyone else heard he's failed a medical ? rumours going around on fb..

Thats one hell of a throat infection.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: B_H_Baggie on July 28, 2011, 12:30:38 PM
anyone else heard he's failed a medical ? rumours going around on fb..

Probably people on the wind up, that is the problem with facebook and twitter as bull spreads. Lets just wait and see before anyone gets hysterical.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: DaveWBA on July 28, 2011, 12:35:34 PM
Probably people on the wind up, that is the problem with facebook and twitter as bull spreads. Lets just wait and see before anyone gets hysterical.

Desperate Blues fans apparently. It is clearly unknown to them that you cannot fail a medical due to a throat infection as it is a test of physical fitness components and not whether someone has the flu.

It was started on BBM, FFS!  :D
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: B_H_Baggie on July 28, 2011, 12:38:55 PM
They never used a throat infection as the reason for a failed medical? Poor wind up attempt if that is the case, saying its a knee problem would have been viable  :-X
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on July 28, 2011, 12:42:41 PM
I really hope we get this deal done quickly, more so for the people on this board who seem to have lost all their patience!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: DaveWBA on July 28, 2011, 12:46:59 PM
They never used a throat infection as the reason for a failed medical? Poor wind up attempt if that is the case, saying its a knee problem would have been viable  :-X

Allegedly so. School holidays though isn't it, the standard of wind up drops significantly this time of year.

If there was an ounce of truth in it someone ITK from either side would have passed comment by now.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: B_H_Baggie on July 28, 2011, 12:54:39 PM
We all know football clubs tend to take their time when announcing deals, look at Billy Jones when all that was done but they weren't planning to announce it until the following day for some reason. Maybe they wait until everything goes through officially registration wise before making official announcements.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: graka on July 28, 2011, 12:58:06 PM
I really hope we get this deal done quickly, more so for the people on this board who seem to have lost all their patience!
i think our fans are extreeeeemly patient considering we are 2 weeks away from the new season and havent spent a bean!!!!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: WBAinDEVON on July 28, 2011, 01:00:57 PM
i think our fans are extreeeeemly patient considering we are 2 weeks away from the new season and havent spent a bean!!!!



Wait for it.but there are still 4 weeks left of the transfer window yet :D
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Yam Yam Baggie on July 28, 2011, 01:02:02 PM
i think our fans are extreeeeemly patient considering we are 2 weeks away from the new season and havent spent a bean!!!!

that is so true mate. not a bean and we are two weeks away. foster will be a great signing but we still need to strengthen.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on July 28, 2011, 01:05:52 PM
i think our fans are extreeeeemly patient considering we are 2 weeks away from the new season and havent spent a bean!!!!

Well how are we to know we don't have one or two join up prior to the Man United game. I remember last season at Chelsea neither, Nicky Shorey, Peter Odemwingie, Somen Tchoyi or Paul Scharner had signed.

Luckily for us our squad is quite strong at the moment to go into the season with, what that needs is the correct additions and not players plucked from anywhere just to ease the fans worries because we haven't spent a 'bean'.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: B_H_Baggie on July 28, 2011, 01:07:02 PM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Baggie.coop on July 28, 2011, 01:18:18 PM
http://www.smallheathalliance.com/read.php?1,610707

they aren't happy  ;D

Lol there's one fan in there who said they're the football equivalent to woolworths, made me laugh  :D
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: lordbaggie on July 28, 2011, 01:18:39 PM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: addy on July 28, 2011, 01:18:49 PM
Foster has not even had his medical yet.
http://twitter.com/#!/stevemadeley
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: DaveWBA on July 28, 2011, 01:19:20 PM
"I'm told Foster hasn't had his #wba medical yet, so difficult to see how he's failed it!"

From Steve Madeley on the Twitter.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: B_H_Baggie on July 28, 2011, 01:28:53 PM
Its all part of the JP master plan to avoid paying him any wages until the season actually starts  :D
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: phbaggies on July 28, 2011, 01:35:53 PM
that is so true mate. not a bean and we are two weeks away. foster will be a great signing but we still need to strengthen.
I know yeah, finishing 11th and breaking all kinds of records with the squad we had last season was bloody awful!!  ???
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: monkey nuts on July 28, 2011, 02:10:14 PM
"I'm told Foster hasn't had his #wba medical yet, so difficult to see how he's failed it!"

From Steve Madeley on the Twitter.

he also says it may take longer due to his injury record (the medical that is)
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Yam Yam Baggie on July 28, 2011, 02:13:27 PM
he also says it may take longer due to his injury record (the medical that is)

for gods sake this is getting so frustrating. same old every summer
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: DaveWBA on July 28, 2011, 02:17:11 PM
for gods sake this is getting so frustrating. same old every summer

Cause we sign ex-international goalkeepers every summer. Perhaps the delay may have something to do with Pannu and his cronies being away in Hong Kong.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Lloydy on July 28, 2011, 02:18:47 PM
for gods sake this is getting so frustrating. same old every summer

So we should just sign him without a medical, and risk being tied down to signing a player who could be a complete crock?

Stop bloody whinging, it will be done in good time. Go and read a book or something to take your mind off it if that's what it takes!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: BaggieBoyLee on July 28, 2011, 02:22:56 PM
@WeldonBCFC
Jake Weldon
Ben Foster just told me he has had NO medical at west brom. And he doesn't have a say in if he leaves or not.

Blues fan who has been down at their training ground this morning. Straight from the 'osses mouth.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Yam Yam Baggie on July 28, 2011, 02:23:48 PM
So we should just sign him without a medical, and risk being tied down to signing a player who could be a complete crock?

Stop bloody whinging, it will be done in good time. Go and read a book or something to take your mind off it if that's what it takes!

no but the deal has been going on for ages. like someone else said why does it ALWAYS seem to be us?? i remember back in june people moaning and people responded dont panic yet if we havent spent anything a few weeks before the season starts then panic.

were two weeks before the season starts and havent spent a penny.

im not knocking JP i think hes done a great job but our ability to do deals is pathetic.

Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: RowleyBaggie2 on July 28, 2011, 02:25:26 PM
I'd say the rumour mill and social networking becoming involved detailing every bit of conjecture rather than us getting slower at bringing players in.

We'd have paid 4m for green a month ago and had no chance of the far superior Foster if it was left to some on here.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: bigbadjohn on July 28, 2011, 02:32:30 PM
this is getting stupid now , so he aint even had a medical OMG What are we doing messing about for .  I hope Arsenal or someone comes in a signs him serves us right !!!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: B_H_Baggie on July 28, 2011, 02:33:20 PM
this is getting stupid now , so he aint even had a medical OMG What are we doing messing about for .  I hope Arsenal or someone comes in a signs him serves us right !!!

Showing yourself up a bit here fella.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: RowleyBaggie2 on July 28, 2011, 02:34:55 PM
I give up, this forum is ridiculous.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Mat15(MH) on July 28, 2011, 02:38:11 PM
this is getting stupid now , so he aint even had a medical OMG What are we doing messing about for .  I hope Arsenal or someone comes in a signs him serves us right !!!

God someone needs to calm down and stop the amateur acting classes.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Yam Yam Baggie on July 28, 2011, 02:44:11 PM
hes got a point in a way though. of course we would love foster at the club but if someone else signed him now it would be our own fault for not sealing the deal and taking too long to do it !!!!

there can be no debate on the point that this deal should have been wrapped up by now.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Mat15(MH) on July 28, 2011, 02:47:53 PM
Who else is in for him? One small rumour made up by a fan that Arsenal wanted him, is that it?
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: B_H_Baggie on July 28, 2011, 02:48:53 PM
How can you possibly say it should have been done by now when you have absolutely no idea what the deal entails, unless you are involved in making a deal happen you have no idea what stage they should be at you are simply guessing based on very little information from the press that may or may not be actually true.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: bigbadjohn on July 28, 2011, 02:49:06 PM
thats what i mean we do take ages so in a way i hope we end up losing out because we do take along time to sort things out . Nothing is ever a simple signing with Albion because of MR Tight Arse !
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Mat15(MH) on July 28, 2011, 02:50:47 PM
Would you rather have Carson Yeung?
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: B_H_Baggie on July 28, 2011, 02:51:03 PM
thats what i mean we do take ages so in a way i hope we end up losing out because we do take along time to sort things out . Nothing is ever a simple signing with Albion because of MR Tight Arse !

Oh right so you know for sure it is Jeremy Peace that has personally held this deal up then, fantastic I await your confirmation of the deal when it is secured as you obviously know all the details.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: phbaggies on July 28, 2011, 02:52:01 PM
thats what i mean we do take ages so in a way i hope we end up losing out because we do take along time to sort things out . Nothing is ever a simple signing with Albion because of MR Tight Arse !
So if you hope we end up losing out why you on here whinging??
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: bigbadjohn on July 28, 2011, 02:55:05 PM
i hope when im at bristol Foster is in Goal because i really want us too sign him , But im just stating that other clubs dont mess around as much as we do . Also we all know about Mr Peace what he is like with money so i would pressume that is the reason behind it . What do you think the reason is then we are taking so long ?
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: RowleyBaggie2 on July 28, 2011, 02:56:04 PM
I've got the sound of crying babies in my ears to be honest.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Yam Yam Baggie on July 28, 2011, 02:56:44 PM
if you read what hes trying to say hes just frustrated by the amount of time it has taken to confirm the deal.

and none of us know the ins and outs of the deal but when various other deals start and end in days then this deal should have been completed by now.

Billy Jones was a free agent and within a short time we had signed him. Anything that involves a fee we seem to take months.

I remember Sean Gregan taking virtually the whole summer. Some people just dont seem to understand what this guy is onabout, he doesnt want us to lose out on him but is just saying if we do then its our own fault !!! too many people quick to jump down peoples throats on here as soon as they say something and are not given 10 seconds to explain their views.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: B_H_Baggie on July 28, 2011, 02:57:22 PM
i hope when im at bristol Foster is in Goal because i really want us too sign him , But im just stating that other clubs dont mess around as much as we do . Also we all know about Mr Peace what he is like with money so i would pressume that is the reason behind it . What do you think the reason is then we are taking so long ?

It could be any number of reasons and without being involved in it I wouldn't know so I wont cry about it taking a bit of time.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Lloydy on July 28, 2011, 02:57:40 PM
i hope when im at bristol Foster is in Goal because i really want us too sign him , But im just stating that other clubs dont mess around as much as we do . Also we all know about Mr Peace what he is like with money so i would pressume that is the reason behind it . What do you think the reason is then we are taking so long ?

It takes as long as it takes. Perhaps it's because Mr Pannu is still in Hong Kong sorting out the mess at Birmingham?

What has happened to our fans seriously, bunch of impatient babies at times.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: baggieboyjop on July 28, 2011, 02:58:06 PM
i hope when im at bristol Foster is in Goal because i really want us too sign him , But im just stating that other clubs dont mess around as much as we do . Also we all know about Mr Peace what he is like with money so i would pressume that is the reason behind it . What do you think the reason is then we are taking so long ?

I dont know, no-one knows for sure. We can only guess, its out of our hands so just relax a bit. I know you are desperate for this to happen as am i and the rest of us baggies but theres nothing we can do but wait and hope im afraid
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: dangerman on July 28, 2011, 02:58:40 PM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: B_H_Baggie on July 28, 2011, 02:58:54 PM
if you read what hes trying to say hes just frustrated by the amount of time it has taken to confirm the deal.

and none of us know the ins and outs of the deal but when various other deals start and end in days then this deal should have been completed by now.

Billy Jones was a free agent and within a short time we had signed him. Anything that involves a fee we seem to take months.

I remember Sean Gregan taking virtually the whole summer. Some people just dont seem to understand what this guy is onabout, he doesnt want us to lose out on him but is just saying if we do then its our own fault !!! too many people quick to jump down peoples throats on here as soon as they say something and are not given 10 seconds to explain their views.

Mate he actually said he hopes we miss out on him to serve us right. That is absolutely ridiculous.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Political Cake on July 28, 2011, 02:59:02 PM
if you read what hes trying to say hes just frustrated by the amount of time it has taken to confirm the deal.

It is a reasonable point. It's just why can't it be described and explained like that, instead of:

Nothing is ever a simple signing with Albion because of MR Tight Arse !
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: B_H_Baggie on July 28, 2011, 03:00:43 PM
It takes as long as it takes. Perhaps it's because Mr Pannu is still in Hong Kong sorting out the mess at Birmingham?

What has happened to our fans seriously, bunch of impatient babies at times.

You know what it is, someone on twitter like Tom Ross says a deal could be done within 24 hours and they think it should be or the move has broken down. They forget that they used the word could in the sentence.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Yam Yam Baggie on July 28, 2011, 03:02:08 PM
It is a reasonable point. It's just why can't it be described and explained like that, instead of:

True. :)
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: bigbadjohn on July 28, 2011, 03:04:05 PM
Cheers Dangerman for the info , i reckon because of all the papers sayings it so close then people saying oh he ain't even had a medical , so i am gratefull for the heads up :D

Some people on this site need a chill pill :D

BOING BOING ENGLANDS NUMBER 1 :D
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Yam Yam Baggie on July 28, 2011, 03:05:32 PM
too right they need a chill pill. a perfect example by the way.... was it just two days ago michael johnson was linked with a loan move to leicester to link up with former manager Sven??

That deal is now confirmed. just using that as an example so dont bite my head off !!

Thats what i want. not being too greedy am i????

we will still beat chelsea regardless who is in goal ;)
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: richard on July 28, 2011, 03:06:38 PM
just spoke to my mate who knows the club doctor    foster has not failed his medical, it is penciled in for later this afternoon. The reason why it has tokk so long is that we have been talking to ridgewell all day.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: hardtobeat on July 28, 2011, 03:07:27 PM
Would you rather have Carson Yeung?
no but Jimmy Young would pobably close a deal quicker!! :D
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Lloydy on July 28, 2011, 03:07:50 PM
I think the ones posting on here, Facebook and Twitter every two minutes asking about signings and generally having a panic attack each and every day that passes by are the ones who need a "chill pill".
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Yam Yam Baggie on July 28, 2011, 03:09:29 PM
I think the ones posting on here, Facebook and Twitter every two minutes asking about signings and generally having a panic attack each and every day that passes by are the ones who need a "chill pill".


have you had yours yet then?;)
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Mooncat on July 28, 2011, 03:09:38 PM
It's not just us. Look how long Villa took over the signing of Given, and now N'Zogbia.

It does seem to have been dragging on a while, but that's probably as much to do with the precarious situation Blues find themselves in at the moment as to us.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: bigbadjohn on July 28, 2011, 03:11:22 PM
too right they need a chill pill. a perfect example by the way.... was it just two days ago michael johnson was linked with a loan move to leicester to link up with former manager Sven??

That deal is now confirmed. just using that as an example so dont bite my head off !!

Thats what i want. not being too greedy am i????

we will still beat chelsea regardless who is in goal ;)

See a very good example :D
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: monkey nuts on July 28, 2011, 03:11:38 PM
just spoke to my mate who knows the club doctor    foster has not failed his medical, it is penciled in for later this afternoon. The reason why it has tokk so long is that we have been talking to ridgewell all day.

 
so do you think they may do the 2 medicals at same time and that is why it is taking longer than people like  :)
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: RowleyBaggie2 on July 28, 2011, 03:12:20 PM
I think the fact various message boards have in the past deliberately posted false links to players and got them picked up by national newspapers says it all.

A month ago Ridgwell and Foster would have cost 11m, we are now looking at 6m - see my point?

Signing players clubs want to keep is much harder unless you are offering silly money.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Yam Yam Baggie on July 28, 2011, 03:12:33 PM

 
so do you think they may do the 2 medicals at same time and that is why it is taking longer than people like  :)

hopefully !!!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: DudleyBaggieFan on July 28, 2011, 03:12:39 PM
I'm also frustrated this deal hasn't gone through yet.

But I know it will eventually when the medical has been done. Usually after the medical they sign pretty quick so it might be done tonight if his medical is this afternoon.

Some of the posts on here make me laugh! Some people are too quick to jump on the "mr tight arse" wagon! There's a reason why JP is at the club. Which other club in the midlands are more financially stable than us?

He runs a tight ship because he is a business man and doesn't want his company to go bust by spending willy nilly on players.

This deal will be confirmed, I have full confidence in that! We should be grateful that we have a chair man that is willing to spend but not spend over the top!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: boing_boing68 on July 28, 2011, 03:16:02 PM
Two points I would like to make: 1) do other teams transfers take a lot less time or could it be that we only hear about their deals as soon as they are close to being signed whereas Albion transfers are talked about to death on here. And 2) this isn't football manager where a transfer happens in one day,  there are a lot of things to consider so can't people just chill out. 
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: greggy8689 on July 28, 2011, 03:19:39 PM
Some of the people on this forum are embarrassing, the deal takes as long as it takes, don't think they will be rushing it because some westbrom.com users want it done faster. Grow up and learn how the process works and the complications. Pathetic.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: B_H_Baggie on July 28, 2011, 03:20:38 PM
Two points I would like to make: 1) do other teams transfers take a lot less time or could it be that we only hear about their deals as soon as they are close to being signed whereas Albion transfers are talked about to death on here. And 2) this isn't football manager where a transfer happens in one day,  there are a lot of things to consider so can't people just chill out. 

I think this is a great post and point 1 is something I mentioned on here the other day, unless you are looking at all the news regarding other clubs like people do with Albion then you can't possibly judge how quickly their deals are done compared to ours.

I also agree that some need to chill out a little, I do understand the frustration as we all want deals done right away but we can't let our frustrations get the better of us as it does no one any good.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: DudleyBaggieFan on July 28, 2011, 03:21:17 PM
Some of the people on this forum are embarrassing, the deal takes as long as it takes, don't think they will be rushing it because some westbrom.com users want it done faster. Grow up and learn how the process works and the complications. Pathetic.

Summed it up perfectly! :)
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: phbaggies on July 28, 2011, 03:22:11 PM
Thank god we aint signing Fabregas, Nasri or Modric some fans would be on suicide watch on here waiting for those deals to go through!!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: B_H_Baggie on July 28, 2011, 03:22:24 PM
Some of the people on this forum are embarrassing, the deal takes as long as it takes, don't think they will be rushing it because some westbrom.com users want it done faster. Grow up and learn how the process works and the complications. Pathetic.

How dare they not rush deals through for us, who do they think we are?  :D
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: OldburyWBA on July 28, 2011, 03:23:28 PM
Some of the people on this forum are embarrassing, the deal takes as long as it takes, don't think they will be rushing it because some westbrom.com users want it done faster. Grow up and learn how the process works and the complications. Pathetic.

Its the want it now, demand it now brigade. How would they have coped when we were signing the likes of Kevin Steggles and Neil Parsley  :o
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: greggy8689 on July 28, 2011, 03:26:41 PM
Its the want it now, demand it now brigade. How would they have coped when we were signing the likes of Kevin Steggles and Neil Parsley  :o

Who the hell are they way before my time. Someone mentioned Johnson signing for Leicester, bit different, boths clubs got lots of money, connection already built between Johnson and Sven, no complications. Blues 'acting' chairman is in a different country, the club is in financial turmoil, we are assessing other players we may want to take on further, vast difference in the situations.

Can't understand why people can't be patient.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: WBAinDEVON on July 28, 2011, 03:27:06 PM
Its the want it now, demand it now brigade. How would they have coped when we were signing the likes of Kevin Steggles and Neil Parsley  :o


Expectations do rise with success :)
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: lordbaggie on July 28, 2011, 03:41:59 PM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: DaveWBA on July 28, 2011, 04:07:52 PM
"No need to panic on Foster. The reason for no medical yet is simply that not everything in the deal has been finalised. It's agreed in principle by all three parties but fine print still being sorted out. No medical until that's done, and when it does happen it might take a while given Foster's injury history. But it's still likely to go through in due course."

Straight from the E&S webchat. No need to panic.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: DudleyBaggieFan on July 28, 2011, 04:48:25 PM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Baggies on July 28, 2011, 04:57:10 PM
I think the signing is a formality really. If Foster was wanted by somebody else the bid would be in by now. We will just be sorting through paperwork. He will be our player - for a year at least.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: B_H_Baggie on July 28, 2011, 04:57:47 PM
Mate Vital football really aren't reliable, they are just repeating what they have seen elsewhere.

Like Baggies I think its a formality too.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: AlbionBest on July 28, 2011, 05:06:42 PM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Nocky on July 28, 2011, 05:44:49 PM
Very good signing if it comes off. The sort of GK who can win you 10 plus points a season, something that I never thought Carson had in his locker.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Rich99 on July 28, 2011, 06:47:25 PM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: johnthebaggie on July 28, 2011, 07:11:07 PM
This probably won't happen till next week, apparently Pannu is in Hong Kong so unlikely anything will move quickly until he back.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: B_H_Baggie on July 28, 2011, 07:34:33 PM
I don't see why Pannu would have to be there to sign it off in all honesty, there should be other board members available that have the power to sign off deals.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: hunsletbaggie on July 28, 2011, 07:44:03 PM
I think the signing is a formality really. If Foster was wanted by somebody else the bid would be in by now. We will just be sorting through paperwork. He will be our player - for a year at least.
no one's daft enough to put in a bid  no improvement on what we had before.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: RowleyBaggie2 on July 28, 2011, 07:50:05 PM
Maybe the other blues director has gone to a local play scheme?
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: baggieboyjop on July 28, 2011, 08:03:16 PM
I think the signing is a formality really. If Foster was wanted by somebody else the bid would be in by now. We will just be sorting through paperwork. He will be our player - for a year at least.

Agree with you here, i feel its just a case of brushing it all up now. Now we just have to wait until its officially a done deal
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Hong Kong Phooey on July 28, 2011, 08:11:11 PM
Agree with you here, i feel its just a case of brushing it all up now. Now we just have to wait until its officially a done deal

Let's hope so - remember the Madjid Bougherra done deal  :-X
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Baggies on July 28, 2011, 08:48:19 PM
no one's daft enough to put in a bid  no improvement on what we had before.

Your entitled to your opinion, but I think a lot of people would say otherwise. Well liked by Blues fans despite the odd mistake. I expect a similar amount of mistakes to Carson from Foster, with the difference being that, like Green and Gomez, they can make up for them to a degree with some big performances.

Despite people on here saying Carson was a good shot stopper, I dont think he had too many big performances in him. Thats why I feel Foster is an improvement. You think we are paying a million for 1 season here and come next season if Blues are in big trouble financially which they could still be then we might get him even cheaper.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: KingKoren on July 28, 2011, 08:53:03 PM
no one's daft enough to put in a bid  no improvement on what we had before.

In the word's of Chris Morris on Brasseye:

"You're wrong and you're a grotesquely ugly freak"  :P

He is far better than Carson, he can makes amazing saves, and has been Watford and Blues player of the year in both their respective premiership campaigns.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: the lords my shepherd on July 28, 2011, 09:02:38 PM
Ben Foster is a far better keeper than Scott Carson. I honestly believe the defence had lost alot of confidence in Scott hence the the goals we conceeded last season. Sure Ben will make the occasional error, name me a keeper who doesn't. But i know who i would prefer as our No1.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: TAFKATMNo1Fan on July 28, 2011, 09:03:28 PM
To be fair Carson was Charltons player of the season too once but I would be very happy with Foster if he does indeed sign :-)
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: KingKoren on July 28, 2011, 09:08:41 PM
To be fair Carson was Charltons player of the season too once but I would be very happy with Foster if he does indeed sign :-)

He has a champions league winners medal as well  :o

Foster's England's number 2 (if he makes him self available) Carson would be behind Hart,Foster,Robinson(if he makes himself available) and Green.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: The Joust on July 28, 2011, 09:16:22 PM
no one's daft enough to put in a bid  no improvement on what we had before.

Do you seriously think that? Did you see much of Foster and Carson last season?
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Lloydy on July 28, 2011, 10:22:05 PM
OMG I've been out of the house for a few hours and Foster STILL hasn't signed, WTF is going on?!

Peace out, I hope Arsenal get him now, serve us right.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: DudleyBaggieFan on July 28, 2011, 10:31:21 PM
OMG I've been out of the house for a few hours and Foster STILL hasn't signed, WTF is going on?!

Peace out, I hope Arsenal get him now, serve us right.

Chill out Lloyd! No he hasn't signed. But he will. End of.

Sick of fans in here being so negative!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Dudleylad on July 28, 2011, 10:33:38 PM
I think Lloydys post is a touch of sarcasm
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: KingKoren on July 28, 2011, 10:34:51 PM
Chill out Lloyd! No he hasn't signed. But he will. End of.

Sick of fans in here being so negative!

I thought he was being sarcastic - or are you being sarcastic?

I just don't know what to believe anymore  :'(

Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Beddoe121 on July 28, 2011, 10:40:17 PM
I always backed Carson 100% regardless off mistakes. However Foster would be a certain improvement and would be a cracking signing. Dont know why people are getting so worked up over the time its taking, yes its frustrating but nothing anyone can do, so sit back and wait :)
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: DudleyBaggieFan on July 28, 2011, 10:41:48 PM
I thought he was being sarcastic - or are you being sarcastic?

I just don't know what to believe anymore  :'(

Nothing wrong with a bit of sarcasm :-)
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Kicking Pigeons on July 28, 2011, 10:43:28 PM
Sarcasm never works on the internet.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: DudleyBaggieFan on July 28, 2011, 10:58:57 PM
Didn't think this topic would ever get within 8 pages of the Carew thread! Looks like it might though. Hope he signs tommorow. I'm out all day so I hope to log on tea time and see he's signed :)
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: johnthebaggie on July 28, 2011, 11:00:39 PM
I don't see why Pannu would have to be there to sign it off in all honesty, there should be other board members available that have the power to sign off deals.
True, but we can't sign players without Peace being around, and we have other board members. I really meant that Pannu seems to be running Blues.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: CL3MO on July 29, 2011, 12:12:27 AM
Not major difference between Carson and foster. Both make their fair share of mistakes and both are poor at dominating their penalty area. However Foster wins a lot more games for Brum than he gave away..
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Andio on July 29, 2011, 12:22:18 AM
The one thing Carson has over Foster IMO is distribution, I still can't work out why people thought Carson was so poor at distribution he was actually very good!

Foster does seem to drag an awful lot of clearances from back passes along the floor.

Having said that I'd be a much happier person with Foster in goal as he will win us more games than he costs us.

If Foster makes an error he seems to come back stronger, whereas with Carson he would just let it hang over him.

Hurry up & sign please! :)


Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: VVVAlbion on July 29, 2011, 08:08:18 AM
As it stands, like every transfer we make, nothing official (that I am aware of) has come from the club saying we are in negotiation with Blues. Hodgson when asked a direct question, I understand, confirmed he was a player we are interested in. As usual, it seems that there is a lot of player, agent, paper speculation designed to get Foster (and Blues) a better contract. If the club panic half as much as the fans we would have been bankrupt a long time ago. How long were the Scharner and Pete negotiaions taking place before we knew they were signing (or even became aware we were interested). Have faith and let them do the job we know they are good at.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: lordbaggie on July 29, 2011, 11:23:19 AM
True, but we can't sign players without Peace being around, and we have other board members. I really meant that Pannu seems to be running Blues.

I think Peace is a major improvement on Pannu and Yeung put together.






Discuss  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: RowleyBaggie2 on July 29, 2011, 11:30:45 AM
Just spoken to the coperate hospitality sales office who told me Foster has just signed.

Fingers crossed.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: lordbaggie on July 29, 2011, 11:38:03 AM
Straight loan. This must be Jezza playing hardball over the eventual permanent fee
http://www.sundaymercury.net/midlands-sport/west-bromwich-albion-fc/west-brom-news/2011/07/29/west-brom-the-latest-on-liam-ridgewell-interest-as-ben-foster-move-inches-forwards-97319-29138684/
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: VANDERLEI on July 29, 2011, 11:58:03 AM
Straight loan. This must be Jezza playing hardball over the eventual permanent fee
http://www.sundaymercury.net/midlands-sport/west-bromwich-albion-fc/west-brom-news/2011/07/29/west-brom-the-latest-on-liam-ridgewell-interest-as-ben-foster-move-inches-forwards-97319-29138684/

Blues want to wait and see whether they are promoted before commiting to a permanent sale is what i've heard.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Albion07 on July 29, 2011, 12:23:22 PM
hmmm slightly annoyed it's only a straight loan if true, Blues could be out of trouble by then and we'll be looking at double the fee we'd have to pay now.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: lordbaggie on July 29, 2011, 12:29:39 PM
hmmm slightly annoyed it's only a straight loan if true, Blues could be out of trouble by then and we'll be looking at double the fee we'd have to pay now.

These dodgy financial situations have a habit of getting worse rather than better.

If that's the case we might suddenly find we can get him for half the fee, if they need money in a hurry.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: lordbaggie on July 29, 2011, 12:38:37 PM
...not to mention that:
- with Foster, Johnson, Gardner gone and probably Ridgewell, Dann and Jerome too - and at fire sale prices;
- no real money for replacements, who will be low wage players from the bargain bin;
- a new manager, who, although decent, won't start with the player loyalty he had when he started his promotion campaign at Newcastle;
- an assistant manager who's authority has already been undermined by Foster
AND
no doubt season long financial rumblings going on in the background (have you ever known a happy workplace when cost cutting is being carried out all over the place, people fear their wages might not be paid and rumours of bankruptcy and administration abound

Given all that what price Blues being promoted?
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: tuamigos on July 29, 2011, 12:42:26 PM
Why worry, we need to move on a season at a time.
Fosters a good aquisition for this season lets just make the most of it and see what happens. If they go titz up this season he might want to stay with us if we have a good one.
On the down side if he has a barnstormer with us this season it might tempt bigger clubs to come calling next year.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: WBAinDEVON on July 29, 2011, 12:58:51 PM
Blues want to wait and see whether they are promoted before commiting to a permanent sale is what i've heard.


Blues promoted? what year will that be then :D
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: monkey nuts on July 29, 2011, 01:01:35 PM
more so that come jan they will either need the cash or have gone into admin and we could get him for 2 mil off the administrators
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: WBAinDEVON on July 29, 2011, 01:07:03 PM
Never been a big fan of loans, heart & soul and all that springs to mind
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Londonbaggymike on July 29, 2011, 01:17:54 PM
I've got to say that blue's finacial woes do seem to benefit us. But it leaves a sour taste in my mouth. I almost feel sorry for them and definately feel sorry for their fans who are blameless in this situation (other than demanding success and which fans don't?).

Football is an effing mess right now and I can't see it getting better any time soon. The fair play  legislation will be full of loop-holes for the rich to exploit and the wanna-bes will have to take risks or be completely priced out; what's new there?

When will football learn? What will it take to sort itself out? Man u or sky to go belly up?

Rant over! Is anyone else having connection problems? Might get tricky on august 31st!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Hong Kong Phooey on July 29, 2011, 01:25:35 PM
Why worry, we need to move on a season at a time.
Fosters a good aquisition for this season lets just make the most of it and see what happens. If they go titz up this season he might want to stay with us if we have a good one.
On the down side if he has a barnstormer with us this season it might tempt bigger clubs to come calling next year.

I'm inclined to agree!

We need a quality replacement for Carson and he fits the bill perfectly.

I would imagine Peace is trying to negotiate a fixed fee in advance of any permanent transfer next season, as we have done when selling certain players, and maybe that is another reason why this deal appears to be taking so long to finalise.

My only worry is that we get gazumped by another club this season!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Mister AT on July 29, 2011, 02:36:36 PM
Only a few more pages and this will be more than John Carew!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: slate on July 29, 2011, 04:12:15 PM
See page 5. I think I deserve a reacharound
from everyone on this site for that tastey
Inside info!  ;D
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Dudleylad on July 29, 2011, 05:13:32 PM
Its good to see we have stuck to our guns Blues are desperate to offload Fosters wages not the transfer fee.

Get him in and settled then sign for cut price when they go into administration
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: divinewind on July 29, 2011, 05:14:26 PM
How long does it take to sign a player?

Good job our board don't work for the NHS.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Sussex-Baggie on July 29, 2011, 05:27:54 PM
It sounds as though the deal is getting closer now, which is the most important thing.

I had hoped that Ben Foster might have been confirmed as an Albion player by now after the news about him being close to joining us was announced by the local media on Tuesday evening, but we all know that Albion take a lot of time when it comes to finalising transfers and so I am not too surprised at the amount of time this one seems to be taking.

Assuming Foster does sign, it will be good for him to travel out to Greece with the rest of the squad for the friendly against Olympiakos next week as a way of getting to know his new team-mates.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: RedHead_Baggie on July 29, 2011, 05:39:30 PM
How long does it take to sign a player?

Good job our board don't work for the NHS.

Why sign him now when we can save another few days wages?

Afterall, we don't want to end up like Portsmouth.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: DudleyBaggieFan on July 29, 2011, 06:17:33 PM
bcfc #wba Foster deal very close to completion now

From gregg Evans. Guy who is covering CL.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: divinewind on July 29, 2011, 06:24:01 PM
i wish we could do our transfers quicker.It's not that i am impatient but the sooner we have new players in the more chance they have to bed in before kick off.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Kicking Pigeons on July 29, 2011, 06:38:30 PM
bcfc #wba Foster deal very close to completion now

From gregg Evans. Guy who is covering CL.
Yep, apparently could even be completed tonight.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: baggiejules on July 29, 2011, 06:43:41 PM
Just got the text from the club; "Albion complete signing of first-choice goalkeeping target, Ben Foster, on season-long loan from Blues. Boaz Myhill will go in opposite direction, also on loan." Good signing.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Iceman on July 29, 2011, 06:44:11 PM
finally confirmed on OS
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: mifos on July 29, 2011, 06:47:33 PM
halle bloody lujah
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Welease_Woger on July 29, 2011, 06:48:07 PM
Confirmation...

http://www.wba.co.uk/page/News/0,,10366~2405360,00.html

Which is great, 'because I just found this...

http://www.talksport.co.uk/sports-news/football/premier-league/transfer-rumours/9381/9/baggies-enter-race-brazilian-keeper?
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: royhan on July 29, 2011, 06:49:39 PM
Obviously a great signing for us.  I had hoped to read as part of the announcement that the loan signing would become permanent after 12 month, but there is no reference to this on the OS. Hopefully, we will soon learn that such a deal is in place.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Lloydy on July 29, 2011, 06:52:12 PM
Get in! Absolutely delighted, well done to Peace, Ashworth and everyone involved in making this deal happen. 8)
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Mat15(MH) on July 29, 2011, 06:52:27 PM
Deep breaths now everyone,that wasn't that bad was it?
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: elminius on July 29, 2011, 06:52:39 PM
Confirmed on Central News
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: DaveWBA on July 29, 2011, 06:53:43 PM
Good news, my watch couldn't take much more tapping.

Any news on whether there is an option to buy or not?
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Kicking Pigeons on July 29, 2011, 06:54:00 PM
Hooray! I'll start the conga line. Everyone get behind me.

Glad we've got our man, and sorted that number 1 spot out. very big coup for us as well. It didn't really take long either (bet the people who were having tantrums because it wasn't announced yesterday feel a bit silly now). I hope we have an option to make it permanent next season, but to be honest I'm just glad we've got him. OK, we missed out on Friedel and Given for reasons probably beyond our control, but afterwards we went out and got the best man available. The club deserve a lot of credit for that.

The only problem now is finding a number 2 as Myhill's gone the other way.

He looks delighted:
(http://www.wba.co.uk/javaImages/ee/28/0,,10366~9840878,00.jpg)
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: BaggieBirdRus on July 29, 2011, 06:54:36 PM
Great news, very happy with this deal! Just shows that our club is on the up  ;D
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: RyanCoops on July 29, 2011, 06:56:52 PM
Doesnt mention 'with a view to a permanent deal?! PEACE OUT.  :D
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: east-stand-nick on July 29, 2011, 06:57:30 PM
Fantastic signing. But can I request we actually get behind this guy and not hound him out of the club when he makes a mistake like EVERY goalkeeper in the world does?
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Dan on July 29, 2011, 06:58:49 PM
Happy to see it go through, the best keeper we could ever wish to get really.

Bit disappointed it doesn't seem to be with  a view to a permanent move however, seems we've missed out there. If he does well his price will rocket up and someone else will outcompete us.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Topman on July 29, 2011, 06:59:12 PM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Dexy on July 29, 2011, 06:59:47 PM
Fantastic signing. But can I request we actually get behind this guy and not hound him out of the club when he makes a mistake like EVERY goalkeeper in the world does?
Very good point.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Standaman on July 29, 2011, 07:00:37 PM
Only 1 slight quibble would much preferred a perm move but otherwise great signing
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: j_dog_1980 on July 29, 2011, 07:02:31 PM
Englands, No1  :D :D

About time too!

Now, wheres our new stiker? lol
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Yam Yam Baggie on July 29, 2011, 07:02:37 PM
good signing but if he has a fantastic season for us you can forget signing him on a permanent.

and no body cry because ive said that, its true.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: dB on July 29, 2011, 07:03:29 PM
I tried to stay calm and patient, but I couldn't. Just so happy that this is done now.

Absolutely brilliant signing, so so so happy.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: DudleyBaggieFan on July 29, 2011, 07:04:16 PM
About time! I'm over the moon this has finally gone through. Can we have this thread moved to general now? :-D
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: richard on July 29, 2011, 07:07:21 PM
it says on the blues website that foster's regisrtaion will automatically revert back to blues on 1st july
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Kicking Pigeons on July 29, 2011, 07:07:46 PM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: westbrom4ever on July 29, 2011, 07:11:36 PM
Will be interesting to see how he does. Welcome
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: lordbaggie on July 29, 2011, 07:14:29 PM
Why didn't we hang on a bit longer? We might have got the loan fee reduced. PEACE OUT!  ;D
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Andio on July 29, 2011, 07:14:59 PM
Fantastic news!  8)
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Groovephil on July 29, 2011, 07:15:08 PM
I'd be amazed if it's not a loan then perm but due to tax reasons, the Peace special remember, it's reported this way. Either way it's a fabulous signing and another couple of this quality and we can be very happy fans indeed.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: B_H_Baggie on July 29, 2011, 07:16:35 PM
Its a great signing for us and with Myhill going the other way you can see why it has dragged on a little this week. Disappointed there is no option to buy as we could potentially be in the same boat this time next year but at least we have a top class goalkeeper for at least a season and if all goes well we could possibly get him permanently next summer.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: B_H_Baggie on July 29, 2011, 07:17:45 PM
I'd be amazed if it's not a loan then perm but due to tax reasons, the Peace special remember, it's reported this way. Either way it's a fabulous signing and another couple of this quality and we can be very happy fans indeed.

All of our previous loans in that way are reported as loans with a view to a permanent transfer so I think it is a straight up loan deal for a season.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Barrington on July 29, 2011, 07:25:33 PM
At the very least we've got a marked improvement on Carson for a whole season.

That's great news.

We'll worry about replacing Foster this time next year if we have to  :)
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: dB on July 29, 2011, 07:26:52 PM
All of our previous loans in that way are reported as loans with a view to a permanent transfer so I think it is a straight up loan deal for a season.

Yep, looks as though it's just a straight swap. No mention of view to sign on either article. We'll just have to see what Blues' financial situation is like at the end of the season...
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: off_foo_182 on July 29, 2011, 07:27:38 PM
great signing, but why oh why not on a loan to perm, or just straight perm. JOKE. Chuffed but whats the point as we will be in the same position next season.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: geoff on July 29, 2011, 07:30:05 PM
Well come to the Hawthorne Ben  :D hope you enjoy your stay with us & lets hope its for more than 1 season
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: OldburyWBA on July 29, 2011, 07:30:55 PM
great signing, but why oh why not on a loan to perm, or just straight perm. JOKE. Chuffed but whats the point as we will be in the same position next season.

Perhaps Blues wouldn't agree to it, perhaps Foster wouldn't agree to it, perhaps it is dependant on Blues getting promoted or us getting relegated.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: divinewind on July 29, 2011, 07:32:30 PM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: lordbaggie on July 29, 2011, 07:32:53 PM
I really can't see Foster going back to Blues or Myhill back to us.

But they might be free to move elsewhere.

We must be in pole position (not a PiG joke!) for Foster if he's here and wants to stay in the area.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: TAFKATMNo1Fan on July 29, 2011, 07:33:14 PM
Very happy with this signing. If the only way to get Foster was on loan then so be it I'd rather have him her next season and worry about another 'keeper the season after much rather have this deal than Green for about 4 million.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Dudleylad on July 29, 2011, 07:37:31 PM
You would think Blues dug their heels in over the transfer fee but couldnt sustain is wages but met us in some middle ground.

Great signing, however we now need a decent back up keeper as I feel Daniels isnt good enough
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Kicking Pigeons on July 29, 2011, 07:39:47 PM
great signing, but why oh why not on a loan to perm, or just straight perm. JOKE. Chuffed but whats the point as we will be in the same position next season.
The point is that we've got an excellent keeper who could potentially win us many points next season. Is that a good enough point?

There will probably be talks to make the move permanent at the end of the season anyway. But considering we don't know what league we'll be in I wouldn't be thinking that far ahead.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: divinewind on July 29, 2011, 07:40:07 PM
I think we might go foreign for an up and coming keeper as back up.

Can't see anyone with experience wanting to come here as second choice.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Kicking Pigeons on July 29, 2011, 07:42:18 PM
I think we might go foreign for an up and coming keeper as back up.

Can't see anyone with experience wanting to come here as second choice.
Stuart Taylor? He loves benches. Not as much as he loves not being in match day squads though, might be a deal breaker.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: wba1993dave on July 29, 2011, 07:43:51 PM
Great news :D  we get a top keeper for a season, if we stay up am sure if he enjoys his stay he would want to sign here permanently , dont forget a year today his price would of been cut due to his contract
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: off_foo_182 on July 29, 2011, 07:45:02 PM
I just think he is well worth the "gamble" we could easily get the money back or most of it. Just think he will be amazing and we'll lose out come the end of the season... when roy goes?
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: kie the baggie on July 29, 2011, 07:45:38 PM
theres probly a clause that allows us to buy if we stay up and they stay down hopefully anyway
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Do I not like Wolves on July 29, 2011, 07:46:56 PM
Excellent - far better than Green
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Baggie Artist on July 29, 2011, 07:51:34 PM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Dexy on July 29, 2011, 07:52:25 PM
Going on history Mr Peace will have something lined up...
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: divinewind on July 29, 2011, 07:52:45 PM
I just think he is well worth the "gamble" we could easily get the money back or most of it. Just think he will be amazing and we'll lose out come the end of the season... when roy goes?

Don't want to go off topic but i think you are looking on the dark side about Roy going.
It's up to us fans to make him feel wanted.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: lordbaggie on July 29, 2011, 07:57:36 PM
Don't want to go off topic but i think you are looking on the dark side about Roy going.
It's up to us fans to make him feel wanted.

"We love you, Roy" tee shirts???
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: tipton baggie 80 on July 29, 2011, 08:00:25 PM
I think it might actually be a calculated gamble on the part of JP, the straight loan. Maybe he was offered the chance to make it a permanent for 4m, but believes the financial situation at blues will only get worse and we might be able to snap him up for, say, 2m. One things for sure, I wouldn't want to play cards with Jeremy. Wouldn't be at all suprised if this turned out to be another JP masterstroke.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: slugga1 on July 29, 2011, 08:06:35 PM
"We love you, Roy" tee shirts???

Everyone loves Roy of the Rovers Albion (dunno if that worked first time trying to be cocky with crossed out rovers)

Back to topic..

I'm over the bloomin moon, top quality keeper! I bet our defenders are sighing in relief too!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: AlbionBest on July 29, 2011, 08:15:23 PM
Very pleased we have got him.
A signing that improves the first eleven and could be worth a few points over the season allied to improved confidence from the defence with a better keeper behind them.
Interesting to see who comes in as second keeper ?
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: WorcsWBA on July 29, 2011, 08:19:12 PM
I'm delighted we've signed him like everyone else but, given how long this has dragged on for, I'm disappointed that there isn't one of those irreversible "with a view to a permanent deal" elements to it. If there had been, I'm sure they would have announced it up front.

Plenty of money still swishing around in the transfer kitty then.....
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: WBAinDEVON on July 29, 2011, 08:19:39 PM
Welcome to a big club Ben
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Blubby on July 29, 2011, 08:20:52 PM
im a very pleased baggie today  :D :D
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: crazedwbafan18 on July 29, 2011, 08:21:44 PM
some awful responses here tonight. you'd think we'd signed diouf for a goalkeeping position  >:( Just be happy that we have a quality goalkeeper in our realms, he saved birmingham a lot of embarassment at times last season with his quality shotstopping abilities! ok so the view to a permanent deal is not included in the article on the OS, but noone knows for certain what is set out in the clause. a deal may be settled next season, and if not, Myhill will return, and lets face it, he isnt that bad, great keeper for hull! Lets celebrate this loan deal instead of moaning about it!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: AlbionBest on July 29, 2011, 08:27:53 PM
some awful responses here tonight. you'd think we'd signed diouf for a goalkeeping position  >:( Just be happy that we have a quality goalkeeper in our realms, he saved birmingham a lot of embarassment at times last season with his quality shotstopping abilities! ok so the view to a permanent deal is not included in the article on the OS, but noone knows for certain what is set out in the clause. a deal may be settled next season, and if not, Myhill will return, and lets face it, he isnt that bad, great keeper for hull! Lets celebrate this loan deal instead of moaning about it!

???

Everyone seems pretty happy we have him ?
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: rajesh-wba on July 29, 2011, 08:30:06 PM
Excellent signing, in my opinion. Well chuffed with Foster's arrival. Anoter piece added to the jigsaw!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: kris_boing on July 29, 2011, 08:30:59 PM
Cracking signing.  We have just signed Englands 2nd best keeper.  Can you believe it?

We have also just improved our defence considerably.   Out of all the keepers who we could have got hes the one that would have made the most difference.

I hope its not just a year loan and that we have some kind of buying clause or something.

Really happy with this signing.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: DudleyBaggieFan on July 29, 2011, 08:32:11 PM
Wouldn't surprise me at all if we sign him permanently in January. That way we have 4 months to look at him and then decide. Surely we can place a bid for a permanent transfer whilst he is still here on loan?
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: AlbionBest on July 29, 2011, 08:33:56 PM
Wouldn't surprise me at all if we sign him permanently in January. That way we have 4 months to look at him and then decide. Surely we can place a bid for a permanent transfer whilst he is still here on loan?

Depends what happens at Blooze as well.................hey way they are going they will struggle to stay in the Championship. They kick off at Derby which will be a baptism of fire for them.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: PsalmXXIII on July 29, 2011, 08:39:12 PM
Just a thought, on the official site it shows Foster in an Albion shirt holding a scarf above his head. Anyone else remember a loan signing doing something like that before? Just seemed a little odd to me :S
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Dan on July 29, 2011, 08:52:18 PM
some awful responses here tonight. you'd think we'd signed diouf for a goalkeeping position  >:( Just be happy that we have a quality goalkeeper in our realms, he saved birmingham a lot of embarassment at times last season with his quality shotstopping abilities! ok so the view to a permanent deal is not included in the article on the OS, but noone knows for certain what is set out in the clause. a deal may be settled next season, and if not, Myhill will return, and lets face it, he isnt that bad, great keeper for hull! Lets celebrate this loan deal instead of moaning about it!

Not one person here has said anything bad about Foster. It's an overwhelmingly positive response  :-\

Just a thought, on the official site it shows Foster in an Albion shirt holding a scarf above his head. Anyone else remember a loan signing doing something like that before? Just seemed a little odd to me :S

They presented Vela like that when he signed on loan as well.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: gerry m on July 29, 2011, 08:54:26 PM
good luck to him i hope he does well! im sure we will hear enough of it if he doesnt!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: crazedwbafan18 on July 29, 2011, 09:01:53 PM
Not one person here has said anything bad about Foster. It's an overwhelmingly positive response  :-\

They presented Vela like that when he signed on loan as well.
I'm not saying that people have said anything negative about foster, just the fact that people keep focusing on the fact we only have him for the season rather than the fact we have a classy goalkeeper at the hawthorns. IMO, its a great thing that we have the man in the first place. We don't know whether he will sign permanently or not, so lets cross the bridge when we come to it.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: richjonawba on July 29, 2011, 09:05:00 PM
Excellent signing, a real improvement on last season. Very happy.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Kicking Pigeons on July 29, 2011, 09:05:41 PM
I'm not saying that people have said anything negative about foster, just the fact that people keep focusing on the fact we only have him for the season rather than the fact we have a classy goalkeeper at the hawthorns. IMO, its a great thing that we have the man in the first place. We don't know whether he will sign permanently or not, so lets cross the bridge when we come to it.
Unfortunately, for some people the glass is always half empty.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Rich99 on July 29, 2011, 09:18:09 PM
Good news.

We will need to sort out a second choice keeper though.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: off_foo_182 on July 29, 2011, 09:18:53 PM
Unfortunately, for some people the glass is always half empty.

absolutely over the moon with this signing, the guy is class, so much so that I thought I would say that i'm concerned we didn't sign him perm. I don't think anybody has moaned about fosters quality. Lets hope its another JP stroke of genius... we still have monies left!!!!! 
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: B_H_Baggie on July 29, 2011, 09:21:30 PM
The straight loan deals actually suit the players most really, Myhill gets first team football and the chance to impress while Foster keeps his options wide open next year.

At the end of the day we have got him for the year no matter what and if he does well and all falls into place we will have the chance to get him next summer so I think all parties will be happy enough tonight. His comments on his video interview about the location being really important for him as he doesn't want to uproot his family should give us a good chance of getting him next year should Blues fail to win promotion and we stay in the Premiership.

I would hope that the loan move allows us to concentrate some more funds towards what other positions Hodgson wants to strengthen although our wage bill must have increased significantly over the last year.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Albion79 on July 29, 2011, 09:27:39 PM
Cracking signing, very good capable keeper and i think he will join with some confidence in himself, if everyone gets behind him (and the defence tightens up) we could have a potentially great signing.

Sadly will bring an end to this thread though soon, can it be beaten length wise this preseason? John Carew anyone?!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: smethwickw on July 29, 2011, 09:33:04 PM
A fantastic signing. How do the 'Be careful what you wish for' and 'we won't get better than Carson' brigade feel now? He will win us many points next season.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: WBASPE77 on July 29, 2011, 09:36:23 PM
Really pleased the deal has been done, I think he is a top keeper, his debut aganist his old club as well.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Savvas78 on July 29, 2011, 09:36:57 PM
Let's be under no illusions, this is a fantastic signing. Well done DA and Roy for getting him!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Aztech on July 29, 2011, 09:40:15 PM
A fantastic signing. How do the 'Be careful what you wish for' and 'we won't get better than Carson' brigade feel now? He will win us many points next season.

Foster is a good signing, and is an improvement on Carson.

However I still maintain Carson was not as bad as some make out.

Foster had a better defensive unit in front of him last year, unless we make more signings he could be in for a shock.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: smethwickw on July 29, 2011, 09:44:04 PM
Foster is a good signing, and is an improvement on Carson.

However I still maintain Carson was not as bad as some make out.

Foster had a better defensive unit in front of him last year, unless we make more signings he could be in for a shock.

I can't see any more defenders coming in really apart from Ridgewell perhaps. Quite worrying really considering how bad were are at the back. Having a decent keeper will make a difference though. It should install some confidence into the back 4 at least.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: AlbionBest on July 29, 2011, 09:45:13 PM
A fantastic signing. How do the 'Be careful what you wish for' and 'we won't get better than Carson' brigade feel now? He will win us many points next season.

Foster is an improvement on Carson so excellent but the 'be careful what you wish for' comments would have been perfectly valis for the likes of Green or PIG !
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Baggiee_Boyy_Benn on July 29, 2011, 10:01:24 PM
wow! what a great signing this is. Well pleased.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Beddoe121 on July 29, 2011, 10:34:20 PM
Happy to see this go through, hopefully 1 or 2 more signings and we should have a decent outfit, hopefully  Gera and Ridgewell make the switches too.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: WBAinDEVON on July 29, 2011, 10:40:25 PM
A brief  interview on player with him if you haven't seen it
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: floridabaggie on July 29, 2011, 11:02:41 PM
Well chuffed with Foster, just hope he settles quickly so people stay off his back !!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: costa blanca baggie on July 29, 2011, 11:20:47 PM
Well chuffed with Foster, just hope he settles quickly so people stay off his back !!
Define quickly.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Political Cake on July 29, 2011, 11:35:58 PM
Fantastic news. I thought the 'Loan towards view of Permanent' deal involved a set fee being fixed beforehand, and if the buying club offered it the selling club were forced to sell. Unless JP has outdone even himself in not just negotiating the details of it, but no even announcing such a deal, I don't think Blues would accept a normal deal like it.

Define quickly.

Scores an 80 yard free kick first game against Man U. :P
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Kicking Pigeons on July 29, 2011, 11:41:58 PM
Well chuffed with Foster, just hope he settles quickly so people stay off his back !!
Don't think it'll be an issue unless his first few performances are disasters. With Carson's history (England v Croatia, Villa) I think some people couldn't wait to get on his back when he came. Foster's history is clean so he'll be fine.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: MostUnfurrowed on July 29, 2011, 11:45:02 PM
Brilliant news! And to celebrate, I've written an article that details just exactly how much better Foster is than Carson.

http://studsshowing.wordpress.com/2011/07/27/ben-foster-a-statistical-comparison/
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Hong Kong Phooey on July 29, 2011, 11:50:18 PM
Unfortunately, for some people the glass is always half empty.

Nothing wrong with a half empty glass - shows that you are aware that you will need more!!!

However, Ben Foster (whether on loan or permanent) is the best that we could have possibly hoped for to replace Scott Carson.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Barrington on July 30, 2011, 12:15:13 AM
Brilliant news! And to celebrate, I've written an article that details just exactly how much better Foster is than Carson.

http://studsshowing.wordpress.com/2011/07/27/ben-foster-a-statistical-comparison/

Just had a good read of that. Good work. Funnily enough, the first thing that impressed me about Carson was his distribution. Unfortunately, i wasn't overly impressed with much else on the whole, although he was much more stern in the Championship generally. I wish Carson the best for the future but rate Foster a lot more as an all round keeper.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: jasonbot on July 30, 2011, 12:24:31 AM
Brilliant news! And to celebrate, I've written an article that details just exactly how much better Foster is than Carson.

http://studsshowing.wordpress.com/2011/07/27/ben-foster-a-statistical-comparison/

I really enjoyed this article! Thanks.

But... The problem now is that we've given up Myhill so we still need another keeper as was outlined on the wba website

Ashworth added: "We wish Boaz all the best at Birmingham during the coming season and we are now targeting another goalkeeper to provide competition for Ben."

kusz... uhm, PIG anyone?
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Barrington on July 30, 2011, 12:27:43 AM
The ambassador would really be spoiling us if we got the Pole in Goal too   :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zs7gAxsfK5U
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Kicking Pigeons on July 30, 2011, 12:31:32 AM
I really enjoyed this article! Thanks.

But... The problem now is that we've given up Myhill so we still need another keeper as was outlined on the wba website

Ashworth added: "We wish Boaz all the best at Birmingham during the coming season and we are now targeting another goalkeeper to provide competition for Ben."

kusz... uhm, PIG anyone?
Not unless we want to pay 3/4 million and high wages for a second choice keeper.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Andio on July 30, 2011, 12:41:40 AM
Brilliant news! And to celebrate, I've written an article that details just exactly how much better Foster is than Carson.

http://studsshowing.wordpress.com/2011/07/27/ben-foster-a-statistical-comparison/

Great read & just backs up what I said earlier:



The one thing Carson has over Foster IMO is distribution, I still can't work out why people thought Carson was so poor at distribution he was actually very good!

Foster does seem to drag an awful lot of clearances from back passes along the floor.

Having said that I'd be a much happier person with Foster in goal as he will win us more games than he costs us.

If Foster makes an error he seems to come back stronger, whereas with Carson he would just let it hang over him.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: tuamigos on July 30, 2011, 06:20:44 AM
Joy at Fosster signing and some people still drag Carson into it.

Helloooooooooo, he's left. Let it be  ::)
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: zac on July 30, 2011, 08:34:17 AM
What a signing. Really happy with this one, well done JP, RH + DA.

Sorry if this is a repost but i found this video on youtube which someone made for Foster.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6wjxPPgvl0
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: The Joust on July 30, 2011, 09:13:25 AM
What a signing. Really happy with this one, well done JP, RH + DA.

Sorry if this is a repost but i found this video on youtube which someone made for Foster.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6wjxPPgvl0

He looks like he should be at Madrid looking at that video lol
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Wbahunty on July 30, 2011, 09:44:10 AM
We needed to actually sign him, we will just have the same problem next year.

However a good season might make that solution easier and we will come to that when it happens?
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: bangkokbaggie on July 30, 2011, 09:51:18 AM
I think it might actually be a calculated gamble on the part of JP, the straight loan. Maybe he was offered the chance to make it a permanent for 4m, but believes the financial situation at blues will only get worse and we might be able to snap him up for, say, 2m. One things for sure, I wouldn't want to play cards with Jeremy. Wouldn't be at all suprised if this turned out to be another JP masterstroke.
Interesting theory. I don't know how complicated the matter might be though if Blues go into administration. The Administrator as I understand would take over control of the club and would obviously want to realise some assets to obtain funds quickly in order to keep creditors happy including players' wages. I assume that the loan deal for Foster would still be protected but what if the Administrator wanted to sell Foster? Would we have first choice? More than likely we would have to wait until the January window or is there a clause in the rules that would allow us to buy outside the window?
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: dangerman on July 30, 2011, 10:09:04 AM
Just out of interest, what happens if we draw Blues in the cup?

Will both keepers be allowed to play?
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Baggies on July 30, 2011, 10:19:28 AM
Has there been any news on the loan fee? It was originally 1 million wasnt it but with Myhill going the other way surely thats gone down a bit.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: kendo on July 30, 2011, 10:32:58 AM
As much as I am please we got Foster at last, I cant understand the fact we offload our only other keeper with prem experience. So we have got to get back up that we already had. Anybody know if the Oddy saga is resolved yet? and lets hope they don't spend 8 million on Long. He is not bad, but not an 8 mill player. We still need the defence sorting, but this should have been all done by now.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: MarkW on July 30, 2011, 10:39:36 AM
As much as I am please we got Foster at last, I cant understand the fact we offload our only other keeper with prem experience. So we have got to get back up that we already had. Anybody know if the Oddy saga is resolved yet? and lets hope they don't spend 8 million on Long. He is not bad, but not an 8 mill player. We still need the defence sorting, but this should have been all done by now.

Myhill was unsettled with the constant speculation regarding us wanting a new goalkeeper, because he thought he should be the one to be the No. 1. Hence when the offer came in to get first team experience he jumped at it.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Gamma on July 30, 2011, 10:51:57 AM
Very good deal here.

I am excited now. We've got a very good goalkeeper on our hands. I think if we fit out a really good CB we'll be ready basically.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: The Joust on July 30, 2011, 11:11:36 AM
Just out of interest, what happens if we draw Blues in the cup?

Will both keepers be allowed to play?

Usually no but not sue regarding this deal...
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: popbaggie28 on July 30, 2011, 11:23:00 AM
I would have thought an agreement is in place that they can both play?
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: saml30 on July 30, 2011, 11:37:57 AM
Brilliant news! And to celebrate, I've written an article that details just exactly how much better Foster is than Carson.

http://studsshowing.wordpress.com/2011/07/27/ben-foster-a-statistical-comparison/

from this i don't get that he is vastly better IMO, but the catching stat says it all really doesn't it, quick point all those mistakes carson makes, only 5 led to goals, we conceded over 70, 5 were his fault, so whos blamed for the other 65???
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: MostUnfurrowed on July 30, 2011, 11:50:04 AM
from this i don't get that he is vastly better IMO, but the catching stat says it all really doesn't it, quick point all those mistakes carson makes, only 5 led to goals, we conceded over 70, 5 were his fault, so whos blamed for the other 65???


They're overt mistakes rather than failed saves. Foster made more than double the amount of saves Carson, last season.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: saml30 on July 30, 2011, 11:51:59 AM


They're overt mistakes rather than failed saves. Foster made more than double the amount of saves Carson, last season.

true something i did notice, possibly a case that our defence was better than blues  :o
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: jsam on July 30, 2011, 12:14:39 PM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Dan on July 30, 2011, 12:16:44 PM
I severely doubt bringing a keep of Ben Foster's quality on 30k a week would lead to any unrest. Carson, in the premier league, must surely have been on similar. Rather I imagine the defence in particular would be delighted to bring in someone of such quality.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: garry on July 30, 2011, 12:36:13 PM
Poor Myhill must really feel like a West Brom reject.
I bet the Bham supporters aren't too happy either.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: chris-wba on July 30, 2011, 12:46:37 PM
What a signing. Really happy with this one, well done JP, RH + DA.

Sorry if this is a repost but i found this video on youtube which someone made for Foster.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6wjxPPgvl0

That video shows just how rubbish Birmingham were last season. They would have been planted to the bottom without Foster. Great signing for us, well done the chairman and the manager  :D
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Baggie Artist on July 30, 2011, 01:11:24 PM
That save against Villa is amazing. Shot stopping is only one aspect of a goalkeeper though obviously..
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: WSBaggie on July 30, 2011, 01:41:55 PM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Dexy on July 30, 2011, 02:02:58 PM
This thread is about Foster signing,please refrain from posting video's of Scott Carson or anybody else thankyou.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on July 30, 2011, 04:51:17 PM
I initially thought Ben Foster was out of our price range, good goalkeeper who will benefit us next season. Well done Jeremy Peace and Dan Ashworth for pulling this off.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: off_foo_182 on July 30, 2011, 05:14:04 PM
first clean sheet of the season.. immediate impact!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: johnthebaggie on July 30, 2011, 05:21:44 PM
Usually no but not sue regarding this deal...
There's probably a crazy FA rule that we play Myhill and they have Foster for the game. :D
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: beechyboy90 on July 31, 2011, 03:42:47 AM
can someone some up this deal for me?
have we loaned him for the year then buying him in a peace esc deal or is it a straight loan?
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: westbrom3wolves0 on July 31, 2011, 05:06:31 AM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: B_H_Baggie on July 31, 2011, 10:42:26 AM
Its been reported as a straight loan deal with no option to buy.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Yam Yam Baggie on July 31, 2011, 01:36:39 PM
in paper this morning we have a view to a permanent deal at the end of the season whether blues come up or not.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: AlbionBest on July 31, 2011, 02:17:05 PM
in paper this morning we have a view to a permanent deal at the end of the season whether blues come up or not.

That would make sense.

No clues as to who we are after as No.2 ?
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Yam Yam Baggie on July 31, 2011, 02:20:49 PM
that is only the papers though ! but im sure JP wouldnt just have a straight deal. he would have something in place so we can buy him next season or something like that, hes not stupid.

Apparantly we are after Sorensen as no2?
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: baggie96 on July 31, 2011, 02:45:44 PM
in paper this morning we have a view to a permanent deal at the end of the season whether blues come up or not.
which paper mate?
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Kicking Pigeons on July 31, 2011, 02:48:25 PM
Apparantly we are after Sorensen as no2?
No chance. He wouldn't leave one club where he's number 2 to go to another club where he's number 2 again. Would cost too much and be on wages too high for a number 2 goalkeeper anyway.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: baggieboyjop on July 31, 2011, 04:32:19 PM
in paper this morning we have a view to a permanent deal at the end of the season whether blues come up or not.

I hope so, if it is then it is a very very good deal for us imo
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: MarkW on July 31, 2011, 05:30:34 PM
Is it just me who found out that Foster is 28?! Thought he was at least 3 years younger
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Wbamitch on July 31, 2011, 06:42:07 PM
Definately one of the best out there that was in our reach, im just glad we got him. I hoped to have made it a permanent signing, A loan will do for now though. It has changed my thoughts of wanting Blues to come back up which i feel is very unlikely anyway.

Hopefully we can get a number 2 keeper in aswell.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: WBAinDEVON on July 31, 2011, 06:58:22 PM
Is it just me who found out that Foster is 28?! Thought he was at least 3 years younger


Not even hit peak yet for a goalie.Still relatively young
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: MarkW on July 31, 2011, 06:59:32 PM

Not even hit peak yet for a goalie.Still relatively young

Then what did that make Carson?
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: KnaveofAlbion on July 31, 2011, 07:11:40 PM
Then what did that make Carson?

A once promising talent, who whilst still young and fairly experienced has a broken spirit and drops far too many clangers.

I was at the Bristol game and Foster seemed settled and more than able, he got down fast to what i thought certain to be a goal in the 2nd half and claimed crosses well.

I really hope Birmingham sink and we can get Foster here long term.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: baggieboyjop on July 31, 2011, 07:22:00 PM
Definately one of the best out there that was in our reach, im just glad we got him. I hoped to have made it a permanent signing, A loan will do for now though. It has changed my thoughts of wanting Blues to come back up which i feel is very unlikely anyway.

Hopefully we can get a number 2 keeper in aswell.

That was exactly my thoughts on the deal. I dont think we could have hoped for or got anyone better and without paying a fee. Cant ask for more than that right now can we

Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Kicking Pigeons on July 31, 2011, 07:39:13 PM
That was exactly my thoughts on the deal. I dont think we could have hoped for or got anyone better and without paying a fee. Cant ask for more than that right now can we
Was there anyone realistically available to us better than Foster at all, fee or no fee? The only player I can think of is Given who we almost got. Friedel maybe too, but I think he's not as good as he once was (getting on a bit).
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: baggieboyjop on July 31, 2011, 08:05:53 PM
Was there anyone realistically available to us better than Foster at all, fee or no fee? The only player I can think of is Given who we almost got. Friedel maybe too, but I think he's not as good as he once was (getting on a bit).

I agree with you, i dont think i worded my post very well. I meant that we got the best keeper we could and we didnt even have to pay a fee, so i'm delighted with the deal
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Pistol Pete on July 31, 2011, 10:29:30 PM
I think Foster's the best possible keeper we could've got aside from possibly Given. Foster started every single one of Birmingham's league games last season (I believe, although he did go off once) while Given had niggling injuries and was kept out of the team by Hart so you'd think Foster would be more in tune, but Given did look good for the Villa the other day.

I hope we have some kind-of option to buy, whether it be January, next season, if Blues don't come up or whatever - Foster is a truly class keeper in my opinion and could be a great asset if we're to stay in this league.

I also hope we get a good quality foreign keeper as number 2 (Kawashima?  ::)) as I don't think Green or Sorensen will come and happily sit on the bench for us.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Avonbaggie on July 31, 2011, 10:51:03 PM
Just watch the youtube video someone posted of him if you have doubts. Some absolute quality stuff. Find me a Carson one which can compare and i believe you'd find it impossible to find one
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Mooncat on August 02, 2011, 09:55:27 AM
Has anyone else noticed that in the Albion Player video of Foster (the freebie bit in the right hand corner of the OS) that when he's filming the Sky 'intro' bits our home 'keepers top is the same colour as the 'green screen' they are using in the background - won't that mean that in our televised games Foster will be shown as a ghostly floating head!!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Pistol Pete on August 02, 2011, 01:14:51 PM
Has anyone else noticed that in the Albion Player video of Foster (the freebie bit in the right hand corner of the OS) that when he's filming the Sky 'intro' bits our home 'keepers top is the same colour as the 'green screen' they are using in the background - won't that mean that in our televised games Foster will be shown as a ghostly floating head!!

I used a green screen for my media studies in college last year and the grass still showed up in it, it is possible to have greens show up providing the shade is different. If they can't cancel it out then they'll just use a blue screen instead, I imagine they have both.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: WBArgo on August 02, 2011, 06:57:39 PM
Just listened to his interview with Tom Ross:
http://www.brmb.co.uk/news/sport/ready-to-go/ (http://www.brmb.co.uk/news/sport/ready-to-go/)

Was a bit shocked if honest to see how pro-Birmingham he still is, claiming he'd definitely like to play for them if promoted again. Basically had no loyalty to us. Hopefully it will grow but more importantly we need them to stay down.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: lordbaggie on August 02, 2011, 07:35:35 PM
He's not stupid. If he wants to stay in the area his choices are limited. He doesn't know for sure which of the two clubs he'll be playing for in 2012/13 but it's very likely one of the two.

He needs to keep both sets of fans onside.

It also shows him as a decent human being - he's not an Albion fan like us - and you'd like to think he's got some good feelings about the people he's been working with.

Is Gera badmouthing Fulham?
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: greggy8689 on August 03, 2011, 10:39:15 AM
Just listened to his interview with Tom Ross:
http://www.brmb.co.uk/news/sport/ready-to-go/ (http://www.brmb.co.uk/news/sport/ready-to-go/)

Was a bit shocked if honest to see how pro-Birmingham he still is, claiming he'd definitely like to play for them if promoted again. Basically had no loyalty to us. Hopefully it will grow but more importantly we need them to stay down.

He is still employed by them so can't really slag them off. If we were to get relegated and Blues get promoted then he would want to go back to his parent club. I found him very genuine and honest to listen to.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Mike on August 03, 2011, 04:29:05 PM
http://www.expressandstar.com/sport/west-bromwich-albion-fc/2011/08/03/ben-fosters-stance-on-england-return/

No doubt many will defend his decision now he is an albion player, despite attacking England players in the past for a lack of commitment/passion. 
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Kicking Pigeons on August 03, 2011, 04:40:54 PM
I don't like it and I done condone it, in fact I think being asked to represent your country is one of the greatest honours that can be bestowed upon anyone and turning it down is disgraceful. But all I'm really thinking about at the moment is us having a good goalkeeper.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on August 03, 2011, 04:42:53 PM
My stance on it won't change now he's an Albion player. I'm not in favour of people making themselves void for England selection. It's a great honour to represent your country and it's a shame players with natural talent make themselves unavailable for selection. Paul Robinson, who in my opinion is probably the second best English keeper in the country was the one decision I could never get my head around.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: twistedh on August 03, 2011, 05:10:57 PM
I too am not in favour of players making themselves unavailable for selection. Jamie Carragher for example was someone who I really did not want to come back last year. He chose to retire from the national team simply because he wasn't getting into the squad. Instead of fighting for a place he quit, which I think shows poor character. It did help him at club level as he used to be one of the best defenders in the league but I just dislike the way he did it.

I am pleased though that Foster will not be involved in the pointless friendly 3 days before the new season begins. No matter how patriotic, I don't feel players will put in 100% as they will not risk injury in this day and age and no doubt be told by their clubs managerial team to 'take it easy'.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: baggieboyjop on August 03, 2011, 07:14:48 PM
He is still employed by them so can't really slag them off. If we were to get relegated and Blues get promoted then he would want to go back to his parent club. I found him very genuine and honest to listen to.

Im with greg. I thought he came across as a decent bloke who is focused on doing his best for us. Cant really complain at that can we, we cant expect him to slag off blues as he is still their player and could well be back with them next year and he wouldnt want to go back to a set of fans that hate him would he  ::)
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: RuncornBaggie on August 14, 2011, 05:58:44 PM
I just noticed today..........doesn't he look remarkably like that gay(Am I allowed to use the term gay??) lad off Emmerdale Farm.........apparently the missus says he killed his disabled boyfriend in the programme!

Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: 15.SUPERJOE on August 14, 2011, 06:04:40 PM
I just noticed today..........doesn't he look remarkably like that gay(Am I allowed to use the term gay??) lad off Emmerdale Farm.........apparently the missus says he killed his disabled boyfriend in the programme!

Yes he does a bit. And you are allowed to say gay, it's fine. It was assisted suicide.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: chipperclark on August 23, 2011, 04:51:50 AM
 :D Thought he has had a great start to the season...was safe as against Chelski..even the little trot from goal to put Anelka off his shot was very positive.

I for one don't feel nervous when teams attack us,as I have faith in Foster as being a very good goalkeeper.It flows to the defence as well...you can see the confidence they have with him behind them.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: tuamigos on August 23, 2011, 06:15:10 AM
:D Thought he has had a great start to the season...was safe as against Chelski..even the little trot from goal to put Anelka off his shot was very positive.

I for one don't feel nervous when teams attack us,as I have faith in Foster as being a very good goalkeeper.It flows to the defence as well...you can see the confidence they have with him behind them.
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Wonder if he feels the same with what's infront?
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: The Black Pearl on August 23, 2011, 08:51:50 AM
Very solid, confidence breeds confidence for the whole defensive unit.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: tommcneill on August 23, 2011, 09:52:38 AM
Quality keeper....just seems too have that little level up from Carson
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: B_H_Baggie on August 23, 2011, 10:09:53 AM
You can tell him and the defenders aren't quite on the same page yet but they should gel in time. The main thing is he has confidence in him from the fans, it was unbearable with Carson as people got to the point of expecting mistakes and that vibe will have carried to the players on the pitch.

He is a quality keeper as he has shown at other clubs when he has been fit enough to play, we have been unlucky already this season to concede a couple of goals he had absolutely no chance with due to deflections.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: PsalmXXIII on August 23, 2011, 10:37:37 AM
He's been very unlucky with a few odd deflections and bits of genius (that pass to Malouda for the winner was absolutely incredible). He's a good solid goalkeeper who is ten times more vocal than Scott ever was. After the first goal against United he was talking to his defence and at least getting himself fired up. Carson usually just shrugged and put his head down.

I don't remember him having to make many saves against United really, and that's good for both defence and keeper's confidence.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: KnaveofAlbion on August 23, 2011, 12:34:17 PM
double deflections are going to happen. Bit's of magic are going to happen, this is the Prem. Those aside i trust him to keep the ball out of the net. He is a sizeable step-up from Carson. Very happy with him so far.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: KingKoren on August 23, 2011, 12:37:58 PM
He closes down strikers a lot from what I saw in the Chelsea game. Illustrates he is always concentrating and alert, prepared to take a risk - I was very impressed (apart from that one moment he ran 40yards and didn't the ball  :o)
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on August 23, 2011, 01:06:37 PM
As many know on this forum, I was a fan of Scott Carson, but I'll admit, in my opinion Ben Foster is a much better keeper. I was really impressed with his performance on Saturday, thought he was very commanding and pulled off a few impressive saves. However, he has to make this type of performance consistant and not once every so often like it appeared to be with Carson.

I also think B_H_Baggie makes a very good point about the confidence the fans have in him. That's important, especially as it takes away the vibe and anxiety which seemed to appear last season towards our keeper.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: baggieboyjop on August 23, 2011, 02:59:31 PM
He's made a good start to life as a baggie and as has been said you can just feel an air of confidence in him from the defence and the fans. Lets just hope it continues that way
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: baggie82 on August 23, 2011, 09:41:51 PM
The great thing about Foster is that it doesn't matter how many mistakes he makes he is still going to be more solid, make more saves and catch more crosses than Carson. It's definitely a massive improvement; such a relief to have a goal keeper at last that can do the job properly and not look like a nervous wreck.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: GrGr on August 24, 2011, 12:46:48 AM
Quality keeper....just seems too have that little level up from Carson

That little level, ok Foster makes mistakes too (like the Mad Dash), but during the game against Chelsea I said to myself that Foster is at least two classes above Carson. As others say in the thread it is such a massive relief to have a real keeper at last. Now for a CB to go with Jonas.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: phbaggies on September 02, 2011, 03:57:40 PM
Adrian Durham (Talksport) has just tweeted that Ben Foster is the most arrogant man in football, and will explain/ start his debate from 4, no doubt its about his refusal to travel 1000s of miles to get splints in his arse!!

Sorry I forgot to add tweet:

talkSPORTDrive talkSPORTDrive
Ben Foster - the most arrogant footballer of all time. Tell you why from 4pm
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Baggies on September 02, 2011, 04:03:40 PM
Don't phone in people, Durham's show is the most pointless one on radio. He says something that will get peoples backs up simply to make them phone in. It does not make good radio, just a load of people phoning in to have an argument with him.

Shame because Talksport can have some interesting shows thqat give you news and real debate, not manufactured debate with Darren Gough along the lines of "I think Jermaine Defoe wouldnt even get into the Bulgaria starting line up, thats my opinion, whats yours the numbers 0845********"
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Dan on September 02, 2011, 04:04:35 PM
TBH it is a bit stupid how he won't play for England unless he's number one. He's not as good as Hart, what does he expect? If he wants to retire because of injuries, fair enough, but to say you'll come back if the number one position is available just makes a mockery of his excuse.

Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: kris_boing on September 02, 2011, 04:06:02 PM
Durham just says things to guage a reaction from people.

Although I believe that its disgraceful to opt out of playing for your country.  He is the 2nd best (3rd if you count Robinson IMO) goalkeeper in the country and it should be an honour to represent England.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: RowleyBaggie2 on September 02, 2011, 04:06:36 PM
Let me guess, the thick whippet botherer by his side will disagree?

Talk Sport - By Morons. For Morons.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: wba1993dave on September 02, 2011, 04:07:27 PM
Who cares about England , club over country any day of the week for me.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: phbaggies on September 02, 2011, 04:07:48 PM
Don't phone in people, Durham's show is the most pointless one on radio. He says something that will get peoples backs up simply to make them phone in. It does not make good radio, just a load of people phoning in to have an argument with him.

Shame because Talksport can have some interesting shows thqat give you news and real debate, not manufactured debate with Darren Gough along the lines of "I think Jermaine Defoe wouldnt even get into the Bulgaria starting line up, thats my opinion, whats yours the numbers 0845********"
I do listen to it a lot on my way home from work and I agree totally he is a wind up merchant and Goughie is clueless but for some strange reason it works and at times it is compulsive listening and you can understand why people ring up and react!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Baggies on September 02, 2011, 04:09:51 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnOOOfyctGw

He is just hoping for this again  ;)
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: kris_boing on September 02, 2011, 04:12:26 PM
I think its great how he says something controversial and people phone up and pull him up on stuff.  It makes for cracking listening most of the time.

I like TalkSport so I'm happy to be a moron.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Baggies on September 02, 2011, 04:13:01 PM
I do listen to it a lot on my way home from work and I agree totally he is a wind up merchant and Goughie is clueless but for some strange reason it works and at times it is compulsive listening and you can understand why people ring up and react!

I cant stand it. Listened to Hawksbee and Jacobs today on the way back from work and their show isn't geared around getting lots of phone calls and it's a lot better.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Baggies on September 02, 2011, 04:13:41 PM
I think its great how he says something controversial and people phone up and pull him up on stuff.  It makes for cracking listening most of the time.

I like TalkSport so I'm happy to be a moron.

He wants them tp pull him up on things though - he gets the commission from theri call  :D.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: phbaggies on September 02, 2011, 04:16:21 PM
I cant stand it. Listened to Hawksbee and Jacobs today on the way back from work and their show isn't geared around getting lots of phone calls and it's a lot better.
My hours are fixed around Alan Brazil on the way in to work and Durham on way home and also get Keys and Gray and H&J in my dinner break haha! would much rather listen to football debate than the chyte music channels any day of the week!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: kris_boing on September 02, 2011, 04:18:30 PM
He wants them tp pull him up on things though - he gets the commission from theri call  :D.

I know.  Very much like Porky Parry who used to be on.  Same kind of thing.  Just says things to get a reaction from the public.

He gets called a muppet in virtually every call.   ;D
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: leeiswba on September 02, 2011, 04:30:45 PM
Just listening and what a clown he is  :-\

Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: nick_wba on September 02, 2011, 04:35:30 PM
At work at the moment, what are his reasons for Foster then? Sounds like a complete doughnut to me!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: phbaggies on September 02, 2011, 04:38:44 PM
He has tweeted the following

Ben Foster shopuld be with England learning from Clemence, Hart and Capello. Becoming a better goalkeeper, forcing Capello to make a decision

Dont finish work till 5 so cant listen just yet!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on September 02, 2011, 04:46:43 PM
I still stand by what I said a few mouths ago when he made his decision. Just because he's now joined our club won't change my opinion. It's a great honour playing for your country, it's just a general honour to be called into the squads. Whether, you're injured or not, he's fit enough to play for us, so travelling around with his national side surely won't hurt him. Dissapointed by his current retirement but never mind.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: phbaggies on September 02, 2011, 04:49:04 PM
Im not disappointed, if he gets injured training with England, that leaves us with Fulop and Daniels!!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Baggies on September 02, 2011, 04:56:20 PM
I personally think Foster should play for England and shouldn't pull out just because he isnt number 1 but it is up to him. I just like the idea of being able to travel to new countries in a controlled environment. Seems great to me.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Kicking Pigeons on September 02, 2011, 04:59:56 PM
Who cares about England , club over country any day of the week for me.
Me and plenty of other English football fans.

I don't think he has any excuse whatsoever for choosing not to take part, very bad for him to decide to take part. But meh, he's only the second choice goalkeeper, I'm really that bothered.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: BoingFlyer on September 02, 2011, 05:04:28 PM
To be honnest I don't blame Foster for not playing for England, the press to like to crusify a Goalkeeper's mistake.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: HampshireBaggie on September 02, 2011, 05:06:26 PM
Didn't he retire because he has underlying injuries and wants to prolong his career? Nowt wrong with that imo.

Some people just need to realise that certain people are not patriotic.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: wba1993dave on September 02, 2011, 05:10:54 PM
Ok so if Foster goes over and breaks his wrist in training as a number 2 would some of you be happy ? Cant blame him at all , they guy has struggled with injury's in the past and he just wants to concentrate on the Baggies , so good on him
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Dan on September 02, 2011, 05:15:45 PM
Didn't he retire because he has underlying injuries and wants to prolong his career? Nowt wrong with that imo.

Some people just need to realise that certain people are not patriotic.

But he's happy to go back if he's number one? That's an appalling attitude to have to anything in life. you either retire as Robinson did or you don't, otherwise he's just thrown his toys out the pram that a better goalkeeper plays ahead of him.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: smosher34 on September 02, 2011, 05:55:01 PM
well he is always smiling and happy to have his picture taken with the kids before kick of  :D
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: TAFKATMNo1Fan on September 02, 2011, 05:59:52 PM
Durham is a muppett. Out of interest why isn't Carson in the squad? And that's a serious question.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Albion79 on September 02, 2011, 06:13:33 PM
I dont know Foster and dont know anybody who does so have no idea if he is arrogant or not.

However i think his attitude to England probably shows why we are crap and often fail, not him personally but the general take it or leave approach.

The only thing i respect about his decision is the honesty, he didnt say some rubbish excuse, although i dont agree with it he apparently said it was because he wanted to be number 1 or nothing.

Playing for your country should always be the biggest honour but i dont think a lot of players see it that way anymore, they have the ability but there are a lot of ego's, attitude problems by all accounts (Gary Nevilles book seems to confirm this) and by Foster refusing he perhaps also confirms that, it would do him good to work with different coaches and keepers like Hart.

From an Albion point of view i dont think it affects us, he is just a likely to trip over and break his wrist at our training ground as he is the england one. From an England point of view i would respect him more if he said he was retiring from international football.

Its each to their own, and my opinion is just mine and certainly doesnt mean its right and i think the same applies to Fosters decision, its his own but me personally i would be a Beckham who is very proud to be English and would still be there if he was picked when is 70, i think if your country wants you, you go.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: slugga1 on September 02, 2011, 06:36:59 PM
To be honest i don't blame anyone not wanting to play for England in this day and age, it's a media massacre ( worst still if your in goal!)
Gone have the days when it's all a pleasure to pull on the shirt I'm afraid.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: wbako on September 02, 2011, 06:41:03 PM
I'm glad Foster doesn't play for England, cause if he did i'd have to support them. As it is, I care about as much about the England football team as I do about television soaps.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Pelsall_Baggie on September 02, 2011, 07:33:46 PM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: up_the_baggies on September 02, 2011, 07:37:18 PM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Avonbaggie on September 02, 2011, 08:12:37 PM
He doesn't like to be away from his family because last time he ended up going all over the place just sitting on the bench. Nothing wrong with that at all .. Alot of other players have refused to play for England as well in the past ... didn't see them getting any stick for it ...
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Kicking Pigeons on September 02, 2011, 09:04:10 PM
He doesn't like to be away from his family because last time he ended up going all over the place just sitting on the bench. Nothing wrong with that at all .. Alot of other players have refused to play for England as well in the past ... didn't see them getting any stick for it ...
Never really got this 'family' excuse. They're footballers. They play once or twice a week and train for a couple of hours the other days. They're hardly long distance lorry drivers who only get to go home every few weeks. Not an excuse if you ask me.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: WSBaggie on September 02, 2011, 09:17:40 PM
Me and plenty of other English football fans.

I don't think he has any excuse whatsoever for choosing not to take part, very bad for him to decide to take part. But meh, he's only the second choice goalkeeper, I'm really that bothered.

I'm an English football fan, but the national teams a disgrace  :)
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: up_the_baggies on September 02, 2011, 09:18:30 PM
Never really got this 'family' excuse. They're footballers. They play once or twice a week and train for a couple of hours the other days. They're hardly long distance lorry drivers who only get to go home every few weeks. Not an excuse if you ask me.

it's his decision if he wants to play for the national team, full stop. Why try to encourage somebody who doesn't want to play?
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: slate on September 02, 2011, 09:23:43 PM
Never really got this 'family' excuse. They're footballers. They play once or twice a week and train for a couple of hours the other days. They're hardly long distance lorry drivers who only get to go home every few weeks. Not an excuse if you ask me.

Just because "they're footballers" doesn't mean they are not entitled to a family life. They train most days and then usually play twice a week. One game is always a night game and often they are away in a hotel somewhere meaning that if you have a young family and are committed to them, then you can't put your kids to bed.

On one hand I think that you should want to play for your country and do anything to make that honour happen but when you get past your late 20's you start to realise that being a father is actually more important than anything else.

If Ben would have travelled with the team today and stayed in the hotel overnight he would have just sat on the bench. So what's the point?
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: donnybaggieboy on September 02, 2011, 11:10:52 PM
durham is a complete w*****,he is never wrong,says controversial things just to get everyone phoning in darren gough is as bad ,how he can spout his opinions abourt tactics and footballers in general telling his ex player guest they are wrong when he has never kicked a ball in anger just gets me retuning my radio when i am on the way to the hawthorns
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: boing_boing68 on September 03, 2011, 09:55:31 AM
Durham is a muppett. Out of interest why isn't Carson in the squad? And that's a serious question.

Carson is injured I think I read.


anyway fair play to Foster, he would only be third choice keeper if the keepers were fit anyway because Hart and Green would be ahead of him, as soon as injuries happen he then would get a call up as a "we haven't got anyone else so you might as well play". what is the point of him travelling around the world to sit on a bench and maybe get injured in training.

it would probably be good for his career in some aspects though because he would be learning from the best coaches that the country and maybe the world has to offer, but as soon as he makes one mistake the media would ruin his career.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: reiss on September 03, 2011, 11:10:26 AM

Durham just says things to be contraversial.

Any one who as a different opinion on football, knows nothing
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: alex1 on September 03, 2011, 06:56:44 PM
I cant stand it. Listened to Hawksbee and Jacobs today on the way back from work and their show isn't geared around getting lots of phone calls and it's a lot better.

I think they should re-name the H and J Show the "Tottenham and Chelsea fanzine". Neither of them can shut up about their respective teams for more than 5 minutes.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: jonestown on September 03, 2011, 07:48:25 PM
talksport is alright for listening to in the car but for factual information, balanced intelligence accuracy it shouldnt be taken seriously. what was said was there to provoke a reaction and get people talking. however i think foster can do as he likes, im sure in the past a player has said they dont want to play for england but may do again in the future, i almost dont blame him as he would just be flying miles to be a number two or three, which isnt the massive honour betrayal that they were making it out to be, but it was only said to provoke reaction, and it has
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Rich99 on September 03, 2011, 09:35:36 PM
Never really got this 'family' excuse. They're footballers. They play once or twice a week and train for a couple of hours the other days. They're hardly long distance lorry drivers who only get to go home every few weeks. Not an excuse if you ask me.

Totally agree, let's put the violins away. ???

Of all the professions out there, playing professional football is probably one that allows folk see their family grow up more so than any other.

As far as TS goes, it's more often than not just one big wind up in my opinion. I prefer 5Live myself, not that that is perfect either.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Rich99 on September 03, 2011, 10:09:44 PM
I'm glad Foster doesn't play for England, cause if he did i'd have to support them. As it is, I care about as much about the England football team as I do about television soaps.

 :)

Wbako, so you are one of Andy Murray's biggest fans, but don't support England: now there's a huge surprise. ;) :P

Personally I'm not too fond of Foster's decision to not play for England.  I don't think it too much to ask of a footballer to turn out for their national side now and again; many would see it as an honour.

Still, it's his choice at the end of the day, but that doesn't mean we all have to applaud it.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Blubby on September 04, 2011, 03:29:03 AM
shock jock durham or is that shocking?
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Baggies on September 04, 2011, 07:54:35 PM
durham is a complete w*****,he is never wrong,says controversial things just to get everyone phoning in darren gough is as bad ,how he can spout his opinions abourt tactics and footballers in general telling his ex player guest they are wrong when he has never kicked a ball in anger just gets me retuning my radio when i am on the way to the hawthorns

Just because somebody has played the game at a professional level doesn't mean they necessarily get a better mind for tactics. I think thats an out dated mindset that has been persisted with to keep ex footballers in jobs once they retire from their short careers. Certainly being a better footballer will give you advantages in coaching but you could look at American coaches and many of them never played at the highest level. Nowadays some of the top coaches around only played lower level and semi professional and in a few cases never at all. Tactical brains can come from any observer, Journalist Jonathan Wilson wrote a book on football formations which is considered one of the best football books ever.

I do agree though, Goughy talks some rubbish on that show - proving the point that footballers arent always the best people to ask (he had trials with Rotherham and Barnsley in his younger days before opting for cricket - could have gone semi pro else).
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: wbako on September 04, 2011, 08:12:21 PM
:)

Wbako, so you are one of Andy Murray's biggest fans, but don't support England: now there's a huge surprise. ;) :P

Personally I'm not too fond of Foster's decision to not play for England.  I don't think it too much to ask of a footballer to turn out for their national side now and again; many would see it as an honour.

Still, it's his choice at the end of the day, but that doesn't mean we all have to applaud it.

Aye, bit of a wrong-un me. I do support the England cricket team, though.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: batesy123 on September 05, 2011, 12:43:14 AM
Would you want to travel half way around the world to sit on your backside and wait to fly home? Have been told by a few people who were in his year at North Leam high school (received some coaching a few years back from a former school teammate), he is a quiet, reserved family man, who can't quite believe his luck, and genuinely enjoys playing. For that reason, he decided that he could prolong his club career by reducing the risk of injury to him, and spend more time with his family. I quite frankly can't say I blame the man for wanting to play for a longer period of time and earn more money for his family.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: tommcneill on September 05, 2011, 02:16:00 AM
Durham just says things to guage a reaction from people.

Although I believe that its disgraceful to opt out of playing for your country.  He is the 2nd best (3rd if you count Robinson IMO) goalkeeper in the country and it should be an honour to represent England.

Ill just bump your post mate if you dont mind...my thoughts exactly  on the matter
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: PsalmXXIII on September 05, 2011, 11:00:22 AM
3rd best goalkeeper behind Internationally retired Paul Robinson, who retired because he couldn't get into the World Cup squad (much like Foster) and wanted to concentrate on League football.

Yeah Robinson is 3 years older than Foster, but it's the same principle. If you think he's better than Foster, isn't it an issue that he withdrew from international duty. Carson withdrew from the squad when he was supposed to be on the bench for no other reason that 'family commitments'.

I don't blame Foster for pulling out of the International set-up. Goalkeepers get the worst stick, and if you're not playing what's the point in taking up a squad space if you're getting no younger and you feel it'll affect your league performances. And now the squad seems to be focussing on the Youth set-up, why not let someone younger step in and take his chances.

Blimey, we get a goalkeeper that wants to give his best for this club and people complain.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: baggieboy79 on September 05, 2011, 12:28:55 PM
Well I took my 5 year old lad to his first game against Parma and as Foster was warming down I called him and asked if he wouldn't mind signing my boy's shirt.  He was more than happy to do this and had a little chat with us.

Ben Foster arrogant - not in the slightest.
Majority of TalkS**** presenters arrogant - errrr yep!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: DommyKeay19 on September 05, 2011, 12:38:19 PM
I don't see the problem myself, some people don't like being away from their families and if England haven't give him much of a chance in the past all be it a few minor friendlies you can't blame him. I think being homesick is a terrible thing for a pro-sportsman anyway, just look at Steve Harmison towards the end of his international cricket career his performances definetely suffered. I'd rather have him concentrating on the Albion anyway from a selfish point of view. I do love England but i'd think these days most fans prefer their own clubs, mainly due to amount of muppets that play these days, go back to Euro 96 with Gazza, Adams, Pearce, we don't have them sort of characters these days - it's ashame.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: RowleyBaggie2 on September 25, 2011, 08:06:46 PM
At the moment im not so sure personally. So far he lost us the game against Stoke, could have done much better for two the Swansea goals imo and if it wasn't for the tightest ever offside decision i have seen would have lost us the game yesterday.

Don't get me wrong, he's made a few good saves too - the bullet of a free kick in the second half yesterday being one - but im just not convinced we have signed the heroic matchwinner he has been for Blues and  we all thought we were getting.

Im not slating him here and i know he has ability, but im quite underwhelmed. Heres hoping he finds form, but if not i've seen very good things from Fulop in the past so we have able back up.

Is it just me?
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: cheesyknackers on September 25, 2011, 08:10:15 PM
I dont see any improvement at all..yet..
I thought he was a great signing at first.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: baggieheart on September 25, 2011, 08:14:39 PM
I said this when we signed the guy. He is better than Carson and an improvement because I feel the guy can have a few super human performances which Carson didn't really have in him. I really wasn't impressed with Foster for Blues in the 2 games against us and was poor in both games and cost them goals.

Foster will make roughly the same amount of mistakes as Scott did.

Fulham game yes he got away with and that is probably the difference he got away with it. I don't think Carson really had that much luck.

Foster will probably save a penalty also, which is a major crime for a keeper not been able to save them! :P

Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: divinewind on September 25, 2011, 08:18:26 PM
yes,we have kept the same number of clean sheets than we kept all last season.

The goal against Stoke should have been a foul,foot up,Olsson got penalised for the same yesterday.

Foster commands his box better than Carson and is more vocal,though Carson may have been the better shot stopper.

Trouble with Carson as i said before,he was just unlucky,those deflections that hit the post yesterday would have gone in had Carson been in.


The keeper at the other end yesterday was pure class.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Baggies on September 25, 2011, 08:20:25 PM
I said when we signed him that Foster will make a similar amount of mistakes to Carson. The difference between the two is that Foster makes saves as well. Wherever he has been Foster has had fans backing him. This is despite the fact he has had some famous clangers (anybody remember him conceding a goal from a goal kick?).

Carson made mistakes, but worse for me was that he didnt make saves either. people said he did, but he didnt - I know what I saw and he didnt make difficult saves and he didnt do it for Villa either, at least not after his England howler.

Yesterday he got lucky with the offside decision but his quick reactions did avert another goal in the second half after a free kick. He has also made a few saves this season which give me confidence he will settle in.

After last season with the pro and anti Carson opinions, I think Foster is always going to be under scrutiny and so far he hasnt done much different but over the course of the season I feel more confident in Foster that I do in Carson. You can already see one area where he is far superior and that is reacting to a situation - he is far quicker to make a decision, something Carson struggled with.
 
Id also make the point that the goal Foster conceded against Stoke, would have been called a foul by those backing Carson last season and no reference would have been made to the keeper doing better in that instance. Foster did of course make a mistake bu being weak in going for it but it was a foul as well so it takes a bit of the blame away.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Dudleylad on September 25, 2011, 08:27:00 PM
Hes a strange one, I think we have improved as a unit with him their organising however I think it shows that the problems Scott has isnt something unique to him its a modern goalkeeping thing.

However I think Foster will be a hit with us as the fans seem to have more patience with him than they did with Carson
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: RowleyBaggie2 on September 25, 2011, 08:36:47 PM
I deliberately didn't mention the word "Carson" in my OP  ;D
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: OldburyWBA on September 25, 2011, 08:53:09 PM
I think Foster is an excellent shot stopper, fantastic reflexes but has the odd rush of blood to his head which has almost cost us (Chelsea one example) and possibly did cost us against Stoke but that was a mix up between the two and a lack of communication more than anything.

Distribution is a mixed bag so far.

I have to be honest though and say I have been more impressed with Fulop in the couple of games he's played.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: FallOutBoy on September 25, 2011, 08:55:30 PM
I think his all-round game is an obvious improvement. I think the defence has a lot of confidence in him, which perhaps they didn't have in either of our goalkeepers last season.

The way the team has been playing, Swansea apart, he hasn't had a hell of a lot of saves to make though.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: kris_boing on September 25, 2011, 08:58:52 PM
Not an improvement yet but the I dont feel as nervous when the ball comes back to him the way I did when Carson was in goal.

Cant say that hes made the kind of difference I thought he would.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: leeiswba on September 25, 2011, 09:02:08 PM
I think Foster is an improvement and will save us points. Yesterday he  Pulled off a brilliant save yesterday from the free kick, yes he could have done better for the offside but that dont matter now, didnt affect us so move on from that.

The one thing I will say is if anything did happen to Foster after seeing Fulop against Everton I would have no worries about him in between the sticks he did very well last week.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: BoingFlyer on September 25, 2011, 09:05:20 PM
I was concerned when he spilled the ball yesterday, but got away with it that was junior league stuff. I don't think he is a major improvement on carson. But does not come with his England mistake baggage.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: wbako on September 25, 2011, 09:07:48 PM
Put it this way: I feel much more assured with him in goal. He is more commanding and the defenders seem to have a better understanding with him (Stoke goal apart). His double save from the freekick against Fulham was inspired.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: BobTaylor on September 25, 2011, 09:20:59 PM
Has been a very lucky boy, countless errors against chelsea, stoke and fulham so far.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: RowleyBaggie2 on September 25, 2011, 09:24:00 PM
I've allways liked Fulop personally - its nice to have two capable keepers.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Kicking Pigeons on September 25, 2011, 09:30:45 PM
Has been a very lucky boy, countless errors against chelsea, stoke and fulham so far.
Countless? I count three. Chelsea when coming out for the ball and almost getting beat to it by Anelka, fumbling the ball against Fulham with the resulting 'goal' being disallowed and an 'error' against Stoke which was actually a foul on him.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: timdon on September 25, 2011, 09:30:54 PM
An improvement for me. Commands box better, much more vocal, better shot stopper, better at crosses, and luckier.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on September 25, 2011, 09:34:09 PM
Time will tell, I think he has his plus points over Carson and Carson has his plus points over him. I thought he got lucky yesterday with the offside, I actually thought the lad was on so he was lucky in that he didn't cost us the game. His distribution isn't the best but hopefully his shot stopping will make up for that. I also think he's very lucky to have the organised defence infront of him, something Carson didn't have in his years with us.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: wbako on September 25, 2011, 09:39:17 PM
Time will tell, I think he has his plus points over Carson and Carson has his plus points over him. I thought he got lucky yesterday with the offside, I actually thought the lad was on so he was lucky in that he didn't cost us the game. His distribution isn't the best but hopefully his shot stopping will make up for that. I also think he's very lucky to have the organised defence infront of him, something Carson didn't have in his years with us.

That might not just be lucky, perhaps he has got something to do with it?
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on September 25, 2011, 09:46:08 PM
That might not just be lucky, perhaps he has got something to do with it?

Nope, that's entirely down to Hodgson forcing his style upon us. Both Tony Mowbray and Roberto Di Matteo saw their defences all at sea in this division, full backs out of position, a failure at dealing with set pieces etc. Since the arrival of Hodgson we've improved all areas of our defensive game and Ben Foster will benefit from that.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Dexy on September 25, 2011, 09:47:55 PM
Seen good and bad so far,like all players he needs a good 10/15 games before being judged.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: wbako on September 25, 2011, 09:50:03 PM
Nope, that's entirely down to Hodgson forcing his style upon us. Both Tony Mowbray and Roberto Di Matteo saw their defences all at sea in this division, full backs out of position, a failure at dealing with set pieces etc. Since the arrival of Hodgson we've improved all areas of our defensive game and Ben Foster will benefit from that.

Goalkeepers play a pivotal role in how set-pieces are defended and how defences are organised. To completely neglect that would be naive.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on September 25, 2011, 09:54:41 PM
Goalkeepers play a pivotal role in how set-pieces are defended and how defences are organised. To completely neglect that would be naive.

I wouldn't say I'm being naive.

Ben Foster may add his input into how the defence is organised but the main duties will be carried out by Hodgson and Appleton. We've certainly improved at defending set pieces, is that because of the change of keeper? Quite possibly, quite possibly not. I just feel he'll benefit from having an organised defence infront of him, both from set pieces and open play. This will allow him to have confidence in his defenders, and the defenders to have confidence in their keeper. Something which never really clicked with Carson and his defenders and I feel the lack of organisation was a major factor in that.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: WBASPE77 on September 25, 2011, 09:57:59 PM
So far I wouldnt say there is much difference but when he knows his defence more, im sure commication will become better and his confidence will as well.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: wbako on September 25, 2011, 10:10:20 PM
I wouldn't say I'm being naive.

Ben Foster may add his input into how the defence is organised but the main duties will be carried out by Hodgson and Appleton. We've certainly improved at defending set pieces, is that because of the change of keeper? Quite possibly, quite possibly not. I just feel he'll benefit from having an organised defence infront of him, both from set pieces and open play. This will allow him to have confidence in his defenders, and the defenders to have confidence in their keeper. Something which never really clicked with Carson and his defenders and I feel the lack of organisation was a major factor in that.

When that whistle blows Roy and Appleton can't do much; it's down to Foster to marshall his troops. My point is therefore aimed at how I feel both keepers organised their respective defences during a match.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Lloydy on September 25, 2011, 11:00:49 PM
I have to be honest though and say I have been more impressed with Fulop in the couple of games he's played.

Yeah I have to agree with this, I think Fulop has been outstanding in his limited time on the pitch for us.

Sometimes you don't need a "name" in goal, just someone who quietly goes about his business and takes some of the pressure off the back four.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: KnaveofAlbion on September 25, 2011, 11:12:56 PM
As someone else has stated. Foster will make just as many mistakes as any goalkeeper, minus the truely world class. But he'll also make you saves.

He fumbled the freekick yesterday, but then has enough about him to throw himself at the rebound saving/putting off the incoming Fulham guy.

Overall i'm far happier than last year.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: The Black Pearl on September 25, 2011, 11:53:46 PM
As someone else has stated. Foster will make just as many mistakes as any goalkeeper, minus the truely world class. But he'll also make you saves.

He fumbled the freekick yesterday, but then has enough about him to throw himself at the rebound saving/putting off the incoming Fulham guy.

Overall i'm far happier than last year.

Good post and very fair, you make your own luck to some extent, overall, an improvement with Foster and Fulop.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: chipperclark on September 26, 2011, 01:32:11 AM
 :D He is a huge improvement for the following reasons

1. 2 clean sheets this season.

2. Communicates better.Organises the defence better.

3. Great shot stopper....eg double save v Fulham excellent.(Carson would not have been up for the second shot...slower reactions).

4. He is an International keeper of good pedigree...never let England down.

5.He is very positive with what he does,makes a decision and goes with it.

I am very happy with him I would score him an 8 and Carson a 6.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: east-stand-nick on September 26, 2011, 02:28:09 AM
He certainly has more of a "presence" which Carson never had. But apart from that I'd say he's no better than Carson. Let's put it this way, if Carson had put the performances in that Foster has done this season he would have been slated every single game.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: BaggieBoiJono on September 26, 2011, 11:02:55 AM
Iv been very very disappointed with Ben Foster, when we signed him i was so excited and thought he was a superb keeper.

From what iv seen so far i see a bit of a " clown ".. laughs at the crowd, takes risks with the ball..

As for his mistakes, well we were lucky to get away with the offside against fulham because it looks level, the error against stoke was appauling knowing alittle bit about goalkeeping, no goalkeeper catches the ball out away from his body, total lack of commitment and bravery.

The first 15 minutes against man utd he was flapping like a distressed duck at every corner and cross.

I just hope he gets his act together because he is a very good player, like alot of the others we have just seem to be under achieving at this present moment in time.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: phbaggies on September 26, 2011, 11:09:33 AM
8 goals conceded in 6 games and 2 clean sheets is a decent return, we look a lot less vulnerable at set pieces too so overall although he has had shaky moments he is steady enough, which goes for all our defenders too to be fair.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: duffneal on September 26, 2011, 11:40:18 AM
dont know why he felt the need to come out and say he'll go back to blues if they come back up?! Would rather he didn't say anything and at least seemed to be committed to us!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: phbaggies on September 26, 2011, 11:57:29 AM
dont know why he felt the need to come out and say he'll go back to blues if they come back up?! Would rather he didn't say anything and at least seemed to be committed to us!
He is a Blues player for a start and we all knew the scenario anyway so I have no problem with that, he doesn't get the option of staying with us if Blues get back up so how can he show commitment to us?
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Avonbaggie on September 26, 2011, 12:31:41 PM
As someone else has stated. Foster will make just as many mistakes as any goalkeeper, minus the truely world class. But he'll also make you saves.

He fumbled the freekick yesterday, but then has enough about him to throw himself at the rebound saving/putting off the incoming Fulham guy.

Overall i'm far happier than last year.

This is the post I was going to make. Half the time Carson wouldn't have got down to the first one and if he had he certainly wouldn't of moved fast enough to get up for the follow up.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Mike on September 26, 2011, 01:19:39 PM
I didn't rate Carson at all.  But i believe our main weakness and problem is Dean Kiely.  I'd like to think he'l be replaced but i cant see that happening any time soon.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: rubyruby on September 26, 2011, 01:38:58 PM
This is the post I was going to make. Half the time Carson wouldn't have got down to the first one and if he had he certainly wouldn't of moved fast enough to get up for the follow up.

Foster is a much more agile keeper. Just guessing but would have said Carson was quite a bit taller and heavier than Foster so that would likely account for it. Hence why i always felt disapointed that SC didnt dominate his box on crosses more given his build. De Gea at Man Utd highlights how build can effect performance. looks like a schoolboy = super agile
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Lloydy on September 26, 2011, 01:58:34 PM
I am yet to see one Foster press conference where he doesn't talk about going back to Blues.

Maybe it's just me, maybe it's just the questions he's being asked by journo's... but to me it doesn't really seem like he's bothered about being here.

People keep going on about how he has the ability to win us points, I'm yet to see a great deal of evidence of this in the games he's played so far.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: RowleyBaggie2 on September 26, 2011, 02:05:00 PM
On the flip i've only heard glowing reports of Fulop so far.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Dexy on September 26, 2011, 02:06:38 PM
Maybe just me and its early days but i feel he is Ben Foster-Premier keeper not Ben Foster Albion keeper at the minute.I dont think he has quite settled in yet,hopefully in time he will.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: greggy8689 on September 26, 2011, 02:12:05 PM
The offside goal was very poor keeping, should have been pushed to the side and away from danger. Free kick was hit a little harder and did well to get back up. I do feel nervous when he has got the ball and I never do that with many players. He is a top keeper but will make mistakes, most keepers do and the ones that make more then others are at clubs like us for that reason.

If he was world class would still have been at United, granted he did have a lot of injuries.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: rubyruby on September 26, 2011, 02:17:48 PM
Maybe just me and its early days but i feel he is Ben Foster-Premier keeper not Ben Foster Albion keeper at the minute.I dont think he has quite settled in yet,hopefully in time he will.

You've got have some sympathy for him though havnt you. What a complete mess the bluenoses have got them selves in to with carson yeung and assorted shady colleagues. I guess in a footballing sense he was quite happy there. I think when we put together a little run of wins his morale will raise accordingly
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Lloydy on September 26, 2011, 02:30:53 PM
On the flip i've only heard glowing reports of Fulop so far.

He was absolutely fantastic at Bournemouth and Everton IMO, didn't put a foot wrong and looked very commanding. One more mistake from Foster and he should be given a chance in the league.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Quakes Fan on September 26, 2011, 03:57:27 PM
Quote
We'll be absolutely fine. I had the misfortune of getting relegated with Birmingham last season and with Watford a few years back as well.

I can see what you need in your team to avoid the drop. We have plenty of talent in this team to avoid the drop. I think realistically we have to be looking towards 10th and 11th place. That's our true position.

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/961995/on-loan-goalkeeper-ben-foster:-no-decision-taken-on-future?cc=5901

I guess everyone can stop worrying now.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Ben1983 on September 26, 2011, 04:17:41 PM
I am yet to see one Foster press conference where he doesn't talk about going back to Blues.

Maybe it's just me, maybe it's just the questions he's being asked by journo's... but to me it doesn't really seem like he's bothered about being here.

People keep going on about how he has the ability to win us points, I'm yet to see a great deal of evidence of this in the games he's played so far.

I bet you wish you never had the Carson tattoo Lloydy! lol
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Baggies on September 26, 2011, 04:38:52 PM
He was absolutely fantastic at Bournemouth and Everton IMO, didn't put a foot wrong and looked very commanding. One more mistake from Foster and he should be given a chance in the league.

Last season when those same points were made about Myhill getting a chance it was usually rubbished on here with people asking "what has Carson done wrong".

The reality is so far Foster hasnt done much wrong, He has had a couple of shaky moments but I feel those who backed Carson are out to prove a point and he will always have that against him.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: WBArgo on September 26, 2011, 04:42:18 PM
Lets say Carson is a 7/10 for his general goalkeeping ability. I'd say Foster is about 8/10.

His positioning and confidence seem better than Carson. We've only played 6 games but at the end of the season I think people will be saying "Yes, Foster is better". With goalkeepers it's always hard to judge after few games, but Foster is better I believe.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: leeiswba on September 26, 2011, 05:25:10 PM
You could say he saved us Saturday because to me it was a world class save. Rilse free kick was a rocket and to get down to that was world class it was hit from only about 19 yards out aswell. People moaning about were he pushed it need to be greatful he got down at all.


I'll echo about Fulop though, does look class
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Lloydy on September 26, 2011, 06:04:07 PM
Last season when those same points were made about Myhill getting a chance it was usually rubbished on here with people asking "what has Carson done wrong".

The reality is so far Foster hasnt done much wrong, He has had a couple of shaky moments but I feel those who backed Carson are out to prove a point and he will always have that against him.

The difference is Myhill was, and is, crap. Fulop is a very capable keeper.

As for Foster not doing much wrong, he had a shaky debut against United, came rushing out of his goal against Chelsea which could have cost us a goal if Anelka had hit the target, a very obvious mistake against Stoke, a goal through his legs at Swansea and the goal disallowed for Fulham which shouldn't have been.

Is Foster really any less accident prone than the bloke he replaced?
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Aztech on September 26, 2011, 06:39:11 PM
Last season when those same points were made about Myhill getting a chance it was usually rubbished on here with people asking "what has Carson done wrong".
The reality is so far Foster hasnt done much wrong, He has had a couple of shaky moments but I feel those who backed Carson are out to prove a point and he will always have that against him.

I backed Carson last season, simply because I did not think he deserved the abuse certain fans directed his way.

I don't have a point to prove, and sincerely hope that Foster produces the goods this year.

Is Foster better than Carson? I think he is, however in my opinion he is not a dramatic improvement.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: kie the baggie on September 26, 2011, 07:19:35 PM
Massive improvement. Commands his area.comes for crosses. Hear him comunicating with defenders. Defenders have more confidence in him. Saying this though a scott carson brimming with confidence would be a very good keeper too.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: VVVAlbion on September 26, 2011, 07:24:18 PM
It is a no from me. Nothing I have seen so far makes me think "wow" Carson would have never dealt with that. That is not a negative though because I didn't have a problem with Carson. I think some people will naturally claim an improvement though to justify the treatment of Scott.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: RuncornBaggie on September 26, 2011, 08:28:56 PM
I backed Carson last season, simply because I did not think he deserved the abuse certain fans directed his way.

I don't have a point to prove, and sincerely hope that Foster produces the goods this year.

Is Foster better than Carson? I think he is, however in my opinion he is not a dramatic improvement.

Aztec..........I agree 100% with you.  My thoughts exactly!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: johnthebaggie on September 26, 2011, 08:34:53 PM
He is an improvement, yes. Not a massive one as yet but definitely better.

Carson needed to go as his confidence was shot and the crowd, wrongly in my opinion, decided he was the scapegoat for every goal conceded.

Hopefully Foster will be the goalie everyone wants him to be.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Rich99 on September 26, 2011, 08:42:11 PM
I think he's had a pretty shaky start, but still, as things stand I'd prefer him in goal over Scott.

All in all, I think it's too early to tell fairly either way

We have however already kept about as many clean sheets as we did the whole of last season.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: alex1 on September 27, 2011, 12:09:26 AM
He's put in enough top performances to keep Birmingham in games to convince me.

Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Quakes Fan on September 27, 2011, 04:29:29 AM
I watched most of Birmingham's games last season, and Foster has made some uncharacteristic mistakes for WBA. I don't know if it's due to having a weaker back four or a different manager or whatever, but he hasn't looked quite the same.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Albion79 on September 27, 2011, 11:07:29 AM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: WBAinDEVON on September 27, 2011, 11:28:41 AM
I watched most of Birmingham's games last season, and Foster has made some uncharacteristic mistakes for WBA. I don't know if it's due to having a weaker back four or a different manager or whatever, but he hasn't looked quite the same.


Are you a closet blunose :D
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Quakes Fan on September 27, 2011, 04:11:04 PM

Are you a closet blunose :D

Oh dear, I'm in for it now.  :-[

It was a Scotland thing. McLeish, Ferguson, McFadden, O'Connor -- closest thing to watching Scotland. I'm all better now.  ;D
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: kendo on September 28, 2011, 09:53:23 AM
Does it really matter? He come out with that statement about already going if Blues come up. I think that's a terrible thing to come out with, 6 games into a season. It just makes you think he ain't over happy playing for us then.  I would maybe even think of dropping him, or at least some sort of fine.It don't look like to much loyalty to me.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: WBAinDEVON on September 28, 2011, 11:18:28 AM
I wouldnt be to concerned if we had to call on Fulop
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: fortressbritannia on September 28, 2011, 05:15:53 PM
Never been a 100% keen on Foster think he's over rated by a lot of the media especially earlier on in his career
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: off_foo_182 on September 28, 2011, 05:34:34 PM
Does it really matter? He come out with that statement about already going if Blues come up. I think that's a terrible thing to come out with, 6 games into a season. It just makes you think he ain't over happy playing for us then.  I would maybe even think of dropping him, or at least some sort of fine.It don't look like to much loyalty to me.

You've been fooled by the media on that one. He did not state this was what he wanted, but was explaining the terms of his deal... in other words if blues come up they wont sell to us.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Ben1983 on September 28, 2011, 05:44:07 PM
2 clean sheets now in PL. He is a big improvement imo, especially vocally and aerially!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: crisoWBA on September 28, 2011, 10:37:03 PM
Does it really matter? He come out with that statement about already going if Blues come up. I think that's a terrible thing to come out with, 6 games into a season. It just makes you think he ain't over happy playing for us then.  I would maybe even think of dropping him, or at least some sort of fine.It don't look like to much loyalty to me.

You're looking into it a bit too much i think. I met him the other day in Solihull, and yea sure, i told him i was a Baggies fan, but i asked him about staying on and his words were 'I really like West Brom it's a great club full of great people & if Blues don't come back up then it's something i'd really consider'.

He's obviously going to be loyal to Blues because that IS who he plays for theoretically, he is still only here on loan, if Odemwingie went on loan and said he is still planning on coming back to us, we wouldn't complain.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: beechyboy90 on September 28, 2011, 10:57:22 PM
is this really taking place?
the blokes had 6 games?

played against the top 2 sides
2 games we didnt turn up and got 2 clean sheets (fulham Norwich)
we didnt turn up at swansea and were mullered!

besides a mistake which was as much his fault as tamas's what has he done wrong? calling for fulop?

we have bigger issues to worry about:
1) jerome thomas form fittness doesnt look the same player
2) Dorrans has got to be match fit by now and still is not impressing!
3) persistance with long upfront forcing odemwingie deeper losing our main goal threat
4) lack of minutes Tchoyi is having on the pitch

not the goalkeeper costing us points at the moment its poor tactics and poor perfromances
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: LoxleyBaggie on September 29, 2011, 02:01:31 PM
Lets say Carson is a 7/10 for his general goalkeeping ability. I'd say Foster is about 8/10.

His positioning and confidence seem better than Carson. We've only played 6 games but at the end of the season I think people will be saying "Yes, Foster is better". With goalkeepers it's always hard to judge after few games, but Foster is better I believe.

Better positioning then Carson. Surely not:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NzEE8Y3N0M

To be fair to Scott he does pull off one or two good saves:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ek9NiOdOmnE&feature=related.

Overall. Foster probably an improvement but seemingly like all English keepers at the moment, he has mistakes in  him.  I'd still like to see Carson get his confidence back as, like Foster, he has the potential to be a decent keeper.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: WSBaggie on September 29, 2011, 04:12:57 PM
So far... not really, although I expect him to prove his worth over the season.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on September 29, 2011, 06:02:18 PM
is this really taking place?
the blokes had 6 games?

played against the top 2 sides
2 games we didnt turn up and got 2 clean sheets (fulham Norwich)
we didnt turn up at swansea and were mullered!

besides a mistake which was as much his fault as tamas's what has he done wrong? calling for fulop?

we have bigger issues to worry about:
1) jerome thomas form fittness doesnt look the same player
2) Dorrans has got to be match fit by now and still is not impressing!
3) persistance with long upfront forcing odemwingie deeper losing our main goal threat
4) lack of minutes Tchoyi is having on the pitch

not the goalkeeper costing us points at the moment its poor tactics and poor perfromances

We're just asking the question on the basis of what we have seen so far from him. So far, I think he's more than matched Scott Carson but by the end of the season he might prove out to be worse, or much better than Carson.

I do agree with your points for concern though, the one I don't agree with is the Graham Dorrans. It takes much longer than three of four games to become match fit, add to that, he's once again being used out of position which is hindering what he does best. Just like some of our other players.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: alex1 on September 29, 2011, 11:48:16 PM
Think some people on here would pick holes in any keeper at the Albion. Foster is the best keeper we've had for ages.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: RowleyBaggie2 on September 30, 2011, 08:56:03 AM
Think some people on here would pick holes in any keeper at the Albion. Foster is the best keeper we've had for ages.

Who is picking holes? It's a debate about a new player we have aquired into the squad and peoples first impressions.

If you don't like it, ignore it.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: rubyruby on September 30, 2011, 09:42:36 PM
Carson was a good goalie. Foster is a good goalie. Personally when it comes to shot stopping and distribution theres not much to choose between them but i think Foster probably might just shade it in the crosses and communication department.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: off_foo_182 on October 01, 2011, 09:28:43 AM
did nobody see the save against fulham which got us a point?? Freekick comes in, rebound falls to fulham player 4 yards out foster throws himself at him and tips in onto the post.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: RowleyBaggie2 on October 03, 2011, 01:58:16 PM
Great game from Ben on saturday, more of the same please.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: wba1993dave on October 03, 2011, 02:45:34 PM
MOM for me on Saturday , first goal he couldn't do nothing  due to the deflection and the 2nd was poor defending by shorey but he got a hand on it which is quite impressive considering the power of the header and how far the player was out ,  overall good performace 8)
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Rich99 on October 03, 2011, 02:56:31 PM
He certainly has a more solid look about him I think.  His saves seem to generally run into less dangerous areas than those of Scott's.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: rubyruby on October 16, 2011, 07:44:44 PM
judging todays performance yes. seems to be settling in to life with the baggies. looked a safe pair of hands and always communicating with the back four. am i the only one or are SHOCK HORROR we starting to actually look like a team who can defend.  :-\
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: WBASPE77 on October 16, 2011, 07:47:09 PM
I thought Foster did very well today, made one great save and made little fuss of everything else that he had to do.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: buzzingbaggie on October 16, 2011, 08:01:49 PM
Foster had his best game for us today. Great to see a baggies keeper finaly command a box and defense!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Rich99 on October 16, 2011, 11:19:50 PM
A superb tip around the post to keep it 1-0.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: BaggieJames114 on October 16, 2011, 11:41:51 PM
That finger tips save from Hammil, Wow. Take a bow Foster
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Baggiee_Boyy_Benn on October 16, 2011, 11:54:57 PM
Great game!
Some of his throws/kicks to put us on the counter were amazing.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Dubya BA on October 17, 2011, 12:18:18 AM
Foster was awesome.

So yes if he keeps this current form he is an improvement for me.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Rich99 on October 17, 2011, 02:59:18 AM
That finger tips save from Hammil, Wow. Take a bow Foster

It was at least a point saving save wasn't it... quality stuff.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: tuamigos on October 17, 2011, 07:05:26 AM
He had a great game yesterday but same as any other player, consistancy is the key. Lets wait and see what develops then we will know if he is an improvement on last season.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: greggy8689 on October 17, 2011, 08:00:20 AM
Played very well yesterday, brilliant fingertips save at 1-0 and his distribution was very good at times, especially his throw to Thomas which put us on the attack straight away and commanded his area really well. Best defensive performance I have seen for a long time.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Pistol Pete on October 17, 2011, 08:27:06 AM
Kept us in it at 1-0.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Roolee on October 17, 2011, 08:30:37 AM
Definitely - the players seem to have faith in him, and therefore concentrate on doing their own job instead of worrying about him doing his. 

He is very vocal and not afraid to come off his line (a bit too much sometimes - will we ever be happy?).

Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: WBAinDEVON on October 17, 2011, 09:30:19 AM
Great performance.

Would anyone consider a swap for Woods with some money involved?
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: PortsmouthBaggie on October 17, 2011, 09:36:53 AM
That finger tips save from Hammil, Wow. Take a bow Foster

Was sat right in line with that shot, looked for all the world to be going wide and swung in very late which made it even more impressive for me!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: samthebag on October 17, 2011, 09:38:53 AM
Had his best game yesterday. With his current deal with us do we have an option to buy him regardless of what league birmingham are in or is it basically if they're promoted then he'll go back?
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: albion59 on October 17, 2011, 11:36:34 AM
Great performance.

Would anyone consider a swap for Woods with some money involved?
not me woods is on fire at the moment took his goal really well yesterday at the moment i would not let woods be leaving us on any permanant deal. foster played very well yesterday you could see the confidence in him and in the defence excellent :D
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Greenock Baggie on October 17, 2011, 12:08:27 PM
Put only 1 kick downfield straight out of play. Had a great game, did everything right, made a great save and commanded his area well. Had an easy game though apart from the one save because he had some awsome defenders in front of him.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Rich99 on October 23, 2011, 11:06:02 AM
Didn't have a huge amount to do yesterday I thought.  Can remember a few good interventions, a sort of low diving sort of Superman punch being one of them...

Only seen the game once, not MOTD etc, not too sure who was at fault for the goal, Reid or Foster.  It was the second time already this season that sort of thing has happened though.   He perhaps deserves a bit of a questioning for these incidents, unless it was totally Reid's doing of course.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: WBASPE77 on October 23, 2011, 11:08:39 AM
I think Reid should have cleared it out for a throw or something, again did what he had to do well Yesterday.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: geoff on October 23, 2011, 12:01:38 PM
Didn't have a huge amount to do yesterday I thought.  Can remember a few good interventions, a sort of low diving sort of Superman punch being one of them...

Only seen the game once, not MOTD etc, not too sure who was at fault for the goal, Reid or Foster.   It was the second time already this season that sort of thing has happened though.   He perhaps deserves a bit of a questioning for these incidents, unless it was totally Reid's doing of course.

Both were to blame as both had the opportunity to clear the ball but there biggest mistake was the lake of Communication, what is so hard with calling for the ball :o school boy stuff
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: MICKYMEL on October 23, 2011, 12:08:18 PM
Will be a top keeper for us, I feel more comfortable each week.
Sure we will take option to buy him.
A slight concern over communication though with through balls ,ie Reid against villa and Tamas v Stoke
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: GrGr on October 23, 2011, 12:09:30 PM
It's crystal clear that the ball was in Reid's control, it was a super weak ball and why Reid didn't deal with it decisively I'll never know. Simply amazing. Just bloody clear the ball.

Foster had best stand rooted on his goal line from now on to avoid confusing our defenders. /snark
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: MICKYMEL on October 23, 2011, 12:13:19 PM
Was Reid's fault all day long, not disputing that but Foster was vey close to him and just needed to tell him to get rid
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: rolfestreet on October 23, 2011, 12:47:43 PM
At the game it looked like foster called for it, both to blame for me though. Anyway who cares we beat that shower at last!!!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Rich99 on October 30, 2011, 12:20:57 PM
He did fairly well yesterday I thought, one of the few positives and better performers on the day.

Attempted to deal with a fair few balls into the box and the one finger tip save to just tip it over the woodwork was superb.

In my humble opinion he was quite possibly our best player yesterday, not that that says a huge amount.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: BobTaylor on October 30, 2011, 02:42:37 PM
Been a critic this season and hasnt convinced me yet but yesterday he was brilliant, made some cracking saves.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Norfolk Baggie on December 18, 2011, 04:10:52 PM
Foster has taken a little bit of time to settle into the team, but I think he is now doing really well.  Couple of class saves yesterday.  Think we need to focus on keeping him.  Welcome other thoughts?
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: popbaggie28 on December 18, 2011, 04:12:03 PM
us Norfolk folk must think alike as i agree completely mate  :D
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: TLMS17 on December 18, 2011, 04:14:11 PM
I like blues to be honest and work with a blue nose but I've told her, I hope they stay down so we can sign him permanently, really do rate him, seems like he actually cares as well and love how he's always eager to come up if we have a corner in the last minute and are losing, tried doing it last week v Wigan but think the bench told him no. Hope he's here for a few more seasons and if he does drop a bollock at all I hope our fans don't get on his back like they always seem to with keepers
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: TheJacko2000 on December 18, 2011, 04:17:08 PM
Aside from distribution he's an improvement on Carson, long may his good form continue.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: baggie_1 on December 18, 2011, 04:27:10 PM
why do people go on about Carson distribution? it was pish. Every time he kicked the ball it went out for a throw. He just hoofed it down the field. Foster on the other hand actually tries to roll it out to a defender or throw it out to the wings. much better in my opinion.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Dudleylad on December 18, 2011, 04:31:42 PM
Foster has been a tremendous addition to the side however hes not that much of an improvement on Carson its just Carson never had the backing of a large proportion of fans at our club.

The improvement for me lies only in one area and Fosters communication with the back four seems very good wheras it was an area that let Carson down in all fairness.

Hes started well over in Turkey so perhaps being out of the constant barracking by the British press is helping him.

baggie_1 I would find the stat that was found last season his distribution was spot on and is something we have missed this season he found Brunt on the wing something like 90% of the time.

Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: The Black Pearl on December 18, 2011, 04:40:58 PM
I was no Carson basher, but, Foster is a much better keeper, his distribution is at least as good, his command of the area is vastly superior, his shot stopping is at least as good as Carsons, his communication is generally better despite a couple of cock ups with defenders.

He has really settled since McAuley came into the team.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: VVVAlbion on December 18, 2011, 04:50:51 PM
Both are decent enough keepers, one has the backing of the fans the other didn't.

Funny how the communication with a predominantly English speaking back four has improved.  ;)
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: WBASPE77 on December 18, 2011, 05:55:49 PM
Foster for me did very well Yesterday, caught everything well, made a good save of there free kick as well.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on December 18, 2011, 06:28:38 PM
His response at full time yesterday was one which brought a massive smile to my face. Played son!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: WBASPE77 on December 18, 2011, 06:51:30 PM
I have been very impressed with what he has done for us so far this season, long may it continue.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: lewisant on December 18, 2011, 07:10:35 PM
His response at full time yesterday was one which brought a massive smile to my face. Played son!

what was his response?!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Rich99 on December 18, 2011, 07:12:16 PM
I think he's an improvement on what we had with him being a bit more commanding in his area.  He not perfect, but he does tend to snap up a fair few more crosses than Carson I'd say and that eliminates an amount of potential danger.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on December 18, 2011, 07:20:54 PM
what was his response?!

Just went absolutely baserk! Come right across to the Albion fans, fist pumped jumping up and down!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Tipton Baggie on December 18, 2011, 07:50:34 PM
everytime he gets the ball he looks for the shorter option instead of walloping up the pitch, hes a quality keeper best since russel hoult
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: FallOutBoy on December 18, 2011, 08:42:02 PM
I think hes a quality keeper, better than Carson, but I think its helped playing in front of an improved defence.

I still think we shouldn't worry too much if we don't get to keep him though, as I'm sure we could find an adequate replacement. Jaaskelainen and Robinson won't want to play Championship football  :P
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Adder on December 18, 2011, 09:05:56 PM
He seems to encourage the defence a lot and there's some team attitude going on at the back which can only be good.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: tuamigos on December 18, 2011, 09:32:52 PM
Best keeper we've had for years, prone to the odd clanger but arn't they all?
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: slugga1 on December 18, 2011, 09:37:01 PM
He's a class keeper definitely the best I have seen here for years, infact defensively (especially in the middle) were miles ahead of where we have been. No longer do I dread crosses and set plays!!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: rajesh-wba on December 18, 2011, 11:13:15 PM
Foster has taken awhile to settle into the team and show his genuine quality. For me, his command of the area is excellent. He is very quick off his line, generally senses danger and reads the game well. His agility is also wonderful. I hope that there will be an opportunity to sign him on a permanent deal.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: WBArgo on December 18, 2011, 11:51:50 PM
I don't want to dig up old views but this was the argument by most in regards to why Carson could be improved upon. Basically that with a solid keeper they rarely get spoken about due to their consistent solidness. For instance, Carson could have fumbled a shot yesterday, whilst Foster has been solid throughout.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: tellinstories on December 19, 2011, 02:01:48 AM
why do people go on about Carson distribution? it was pish. Every time he kicked the ball it went out for a throw.

Totally agree.  I *never* got on Carson's back, but that's so true.  When he played for England a few weeks back he came on and the first kick he took I said to my mate "throw in"... which it was.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Baggie Artist on December 19, 2011, 03:12:43 AM
Foster has taken awhile to settle into the team and show his genuine quality. For me, his command of the area is excellent. He is very quick off his line, generally senses danger and reads the game well. His agility is also wonderful. I hope that there will be an opportunity to sign him on a permanent deal.

I'm surprised his command of area has been so good as he has always been known as being a good shot stopper but a bit shaky in other areas. I'd actually say it's been his best quality since he came here, I can't remember him spilling a cross so far.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Aixelsyd on December 19, 2011, 03:12:57 AM
I think hes a quality keeper, better than Carson, but I think its helped playing in front of an improved defence.

so was that Carson's problem... he played in front of the defence rather than behind it  ;D
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Barrington on December 19, 2011, 04:12:58 AM
He's the best keeper we've had for a good while.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: reiss on December 19, 2011, 09:59:20 AM

 i dont why he gave up on England, becuase he surley be in the squad
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: KingKoren on December 19, 2011, 10:05:43 AM
i dont why he gave up on England, becuase he surley be in the squad

Because of niggling injuries. He wouldn't be in the squad if he was injured  :D if Hart gets injured I'm sure he will suddenly become available again.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: reiss on December 19, 2011, 10:06:41 AM
Because of niggling injuries. He wouldn't be in the squad if he was injured  :D if Hart gets injured I'm sure he will suddenly become available again.

cheers i didnt know that
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Pistol Pete on December 19, 2011, 10:45:22 AM
Foster trumps every single one of Carson's attributes. Every single one. His distribution is brilliant, Bolton showed this... Most of our attacks came from him.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: beechyboy90 on December 19, 2011, 04:24:35 PM
hopefully the noses dont get promoted so we can keep him!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: BaggieBirdRus on December 19, 2011, 05:15:22 PM
It's good to know we have the second best English keeper in the country. He's a class above most of the keepers we've had in recent years, long may it continue!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: WBASPE77 on December 19, 2011, 05:18:23 PM
He has been one of the best keepers we have had in a few years. Hopefully he will only get better.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: wbako on December 19, 2011, 07:30:38 PM
Everyone should be keeping their fingers crossed that Small Heath stay in the chumpionship and we stay up because Foster is a tremendous goalie who has improved us massively in the goalkeeping department.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: royhan on December 19, 2011, 09:50:54 PM
Good result for us at Palace tonight - the Blues lost 1-0, enhances our chances of keeping Foster.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Rich99 on December 21, 2011, 09:40:02 PM
He made some absolute class saves tonight.

He was as important in us getting the full 3 points as anyone, in my humble opinion.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Pistol Pete on December 21, 2011, 09:50:19 PM
Class today. Brilliant. Should sign him if we can.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: WBASPE77 on December 21, 2011, 10:09:11 PM
Another great game from Foster tonight, made some great saves.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: botters on December 21, 2011, 10:10:35 PM
Tremendous display, I like that way he really commands his area
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: alex1 on December 22, 2011, 12:19:05 AM
I love the way he is so decisive. And very much on his toes. Top class keeper.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: RuncornBaggie on December 22, 2011, 01:23:11 PM
Initially I didn't think that there would be THAT much difference between Carson and Foster. 

Foster seems to have grown in stature since he arrived here.  I believe that he is a better keeper than Carson.  He just seems to be more......confident!  More decisive!  A good signing by the club, hope we can get him permanently. 

BUT......and this is a big but........it doesn't excuse any of the grief that Carson got, I really felt sorry for that kid!

Back on to topic, I believe that we are benefitting a lot from having Ben Foster in the side!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: BoingFlyer on December 22, 2011, 01:26:41 PM

While I'm a big fan of Carson, Foster is now showing why he is a better keeper, very commanding in the box.

Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Baggies on December 22, 2011, 05:43:27 PM
He could have maybe done better with the goals last night, more the first one, but over all he has been very good this season. He makes good saves and he commands his box very well. He also makes decisions much quicker than Carson would - a bit problem of Carsons and I think goalkeepers need to do that.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: smosher34 on December 22, 2011, 06:47:06 PM
i love the way he always got a smile on his face and seems to enjoy playing football claps the fans pumps his fists to us , hope we can sign him at the end of the season .
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: TheJacko2000 on December 22, 2011, 07:41:36 PM
I like Foster but had it been Carson that conceded from the freekick last night he'd have been crucified. It was very poor goalkeeping.

That aside he's been pretty good.  ;D
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: KingKoren on December 22, 2011, 07:48:43 PM
I think he has done reasonably well so far. Interestingly I saw Myhill playing for Blues against Palace the other day and I thought he was very good - my Blues supporting friend assures me he has been excellent this season.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Rich99 on January 21, 2012, 06:21:12 PM
Having half a seasons worth or so to judge now:

Based on what I've seen so far, I think he's a keeper who is certainly good enough for where we stand right now.  I'd class Foster as a Premiership quality keeper.  His shot stopping is good and though folk said he's not that commanding, he seems fairly solid in that area to me.

He's made mistakes this season, all keepers do, but I think he's played a part in some crucial moments in games where he's arguably won us points.  He's done this several times as well.

All in all, I'd say we are more solid between the sticks and I'd be more than happy if we took him on permanently.  I'm not sure how much he'd cost though.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: WBASPE77 on January 21, 2012, 06:22:41 PM
Great save today, I carnt really think of many mistakes he has made this season, the Stoke goal at our place perhaps.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: botters on January 21, 2012, 06:25:47 PM
YES!! 100% improvement
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: GrGr on January 21, 2012, 06:30:43 PM
Without a doubt a clear step up in class.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: tipton baggie 80 on January 21, 2012, 06:41:24 PM
All in all, I'd say we are more solid between the sticks and I'd be more than happy if we took him on permanently.  I'm not sure how much he'd cost though.

Knowing that we we have first option should we stay up and Blues fail to gain promotion, it wouldn't suprise me if a fee has already been agreed in principle.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: RowleyBaggie2 on January 21, 2012, 07:16:45 PM
He's got better and better.

POTY material.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on January 21, 2012, 07:18:53 PM
He's improved game after game in my opinion. Appears very vocal with his centre halves and both Olsson, G-Mac and Fozzy look to have formed a very solid partnership between them. Something which perhaps was missing in recent seasons. It was also refreshing to see an Albion keeper save a penalty as that in itself very rarely happens.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: RowleyBaggie2 on January 21, 2012, 07:33:19 PM
Its his decision making I love, he makes his mind up and doesn't hesitate.

He will get a few wrong but make up with it ten fold.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: overseas baggie on January 22, 2012, 10:47:41 AM
Thank God we got Foster and not Sorenson last summer!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: AlbionBest on January 22, 2012, 10:52:20 AM
Couldn't watch the penalty yesterday as you just knew they would score - brilliant save by Foster and cue madness all around in our end !

Another monkey off our back !
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: TLMS17 on January 22, 2012, 10:58:19 AM
Class keeper, really hope we sign him, he seems to care as well as you can tell by his reaction during and at the end of games
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Aixelsyd on January 22, 2012, 11:00:47 AM
I carnt really think of many mistakes he has made this season, the Stoke goal at our place perhaps.

it should never have been allowed... clearly a foul

so you cant blame him for that
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: baggieheart on January 22, 2012, 11:03:53 AM
Think he has very good hands. Doesn't spill too much.

Would be happy for him to be number 1 for a good number of years.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: baggieboy79 on January 22, 2012, 11:12:31 AM
Have we definitely got the option to buy Foster in the summer or is it dependant on whether Blues go up or not? I know that a lot of noses are not best pleased with our club after sending Wood to Bristol so could this affect Blues' decision or is it a done deal?

I really like Foster as a keeper and think we need to keep him.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: hardtobeat on January 22, 2012, 11:47:25 AM
Think he's said he would stay at Blues if they get promoted,as for Wood was his choice apparently because he felt he was more likely to start at Brizzle than at Blooze.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: smosher34 on January 22, 2012, 11:57:30 AM
i love the way always smiling and fist pumping to the fans shows he cares and enjoys playing football  ;D sign him up lets hope the blues dont come up ! couldnt watch the penalty but when saved it was like we had scored mental
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: OldburyWBA on January 22, 2012, 12:37:56 PM
it should never have been allowed... clearly a foul

so you cant blame him for that

That wasn't a foul, it was crap defending by Tamas and poor communication by Foster allowing the Stokie to nip in.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: batesy123 on January 22, 2012, 12:50:15 PM
There's more to keeping than throwing yourself around in a box trying to catch the ball. The amount he communicates with and organises the defence is incomparable to carson - I can hear him shouting in the goal at the BRE from the far end of the Halfords. Our defence is looking quality this season, hugely down to Roy, partly down to Foster, and somewhat down to G-Mac and Olsson gelling well Much better than Carson, anyone who says otherwise doesn't know much about the life of a goalkeeper. They're a rare breed, but they make mistakes too, people don't realise that they aren't infallible. A quality player, and I still can't believe we managed to sign him on loan. Get him permanently and I'll be chuffed to bits.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: ou60baggie on January 22, 2012, 01:17:39 PM
Have watched Foster 5 or 6 times this season,wasn't sure about him to start with but i do have to say he seems very passionate about baggies from the way he reacts with fans to his goal celebrations, he makes decisions and sticks to them, hope we do manage to sign him, i think he is a great asset to our club.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: tuamigos on January 22, 2012, 02:19:27 PM
I no longer get cramp in my buttocks from tensing up every time a defender tries to pass the ball back to the keeper, so thanks for that Ben.
Much better than last year IMO
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: rubyruby on January 22, 2012, 02:25:12 PM
I no longer get cramp in my buttocks from tensing up every time a defender tries to pass the ball back to the keeper, so thanks for that Ben.
Much better than last year IMO

i agree amigo although i thought scott carson made some wonderful saves. anyone remember derby away season before last with a truly magnificent banksyeske effort to keep the ball out! but the rest of his game often showed signs of vunerability. foster for me is the better allround keeper
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Avonbaggie on January 22, 2012, 04:03:31 PM
I no longer get cramp in my buttocks from tensing up every time a defender tries to pass the ball back to the keeper, so thanks for that Ben.
Much better than last year IMO

A million % agreed!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: WBASPE77 on January 22, 2012, 04:05:56 PM
I always thought Carson was a half decent keeper, but Foster doesnt make as many mistakes as what Scott did.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: VVVAlbion on January 22, 2012, 04:28:28 PM
I always thought Carson was a half decent keeper, but Foster doesnt make as many mistakes as what Scott did.

Foster, for me, is a better keeper (and I liked Carson) but also so far has the benefit of rarely being punished for his mistakes. The cross he spilled yesterday would undoubtedly have rebounded in off a Stokie arse if Carson had fumbled it!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Albion79 on January 23, 2012, 03:45:18 PM
Lazy i know but i cant be bothered to read the last 6 pages again so not sure if its been mentioned.

I know he is on a season long but what i can gather he is going back to Blues end of the season and if they dont get up we have first option or something, do we have the option to sign him now?

Personally i would sign him now if we did have the option or if not then make Blues an offer now to get him. I think he is as good as we will get for our type of price range, he is now settled, knows the defence, setup, etc and thats not based on saturday just in general.

Plus also Blues are on a bit of a role at the moment so if they do go up we would lose out from what i can gather, why not exploit their financial position now, i saw Beuasjour bid from Wigan has been accepted and it would seem they are still struggling so i would get Foster now to save any possible problems end of season.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: B_H_Baggie on January 23, 2012, 04:13:27 PM
No we don't have the option to sign him now. Even if we had a bid accepted for him I doubt he would want to commit to us yet as we are far from safe and Blues look a decent shot for promotion as things stand so he wouldn't take the risk of not being a Premier League player next season.

If Blues do come up then we need a new keeper its as simple as that unfortunately.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: KingKoren on February 04, 2012, 10:29:50 PM
I can't remember him making a save today and plenty of other games. Why is this?

Do we really resrict the opposition ability to shoot on target, but when they do they it's clear cut and they score? Is he a poor keeper who should be stopping more of the goals that have gone in?

I don't think he is a bad keeper but i'm yet to see a game where he has gained us a point or all three. Most games he just picks the ball out his net a couple of times - the rest of his time he is a spectator it seems. He doesn't command his area brilliantly either.

If we stay up is there a better keeper we could get?
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: smethwickw on February 04, 2012, 10:38:33 PM
He's an improvement on Carson imo. I like him but not overly fussed whether we keep him or not. Could we afford him. I'm sure there are other keepers out there as good.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: WBASPE77 on February 04, 2012, 10:43:22 PM
He is much better than Carson. He made some great saves against Man City, which I certianly think earned us that point.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Rich99 on February 04, 2012, 10:47:19 PM
He didn't have much to do today, however he's made some crucial saves this season and kept us in games for sure.  I'd say he's won us points this season.

For me he's a fairly clear improvement on the version of Carson that was here.

Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Rich99 on February 04, 2012, 10:58:07 PM
I'd say he's one of a few of our current squad who teams sitting higher than we are would be casting an eye on taking.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: KingKoren on February 04, 2012, 11:01:49 PM
He didn't have much to do today, however he's made some crucial saves this season and kept us in games for sure.  I'd say he's won us points this season.

For me he's a fairly clear improvement on the version of Carson that was here.



I definitely agree with that.

I have expected more from him though, maybe my memory is just hazy, I can't recall many games where I thought he has done a lot. We have only kept 3 clean sheets this season and I thought with his introduction this season,and Roy's tactics, we would be doing significantly better than that - not that he is in anyway completely at fault.

I'd say he's one of our players who teams sitting higher than we are would be casting an eye on taking.

What team Rich? I can't think of many that would be desperate to take him. Maybe Sunderland.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: j2burnz on February 04, 2012, 11:02:49 PM
newcastle away - bloody brilliant / also man city

no way can we get a better keeper between the sticks ,
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Baggies on February 04, 2012, 11:18:02 PM
He made a great save in the second half coming out to stop Dyer possibly - the chance where Olsson then had to stop the second effort and then make a tackel after the Scharner back pass.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: KingKoren on February 04, 2012, 11:46:47 PM
For me Ruddy and Vorm have been much better than Foster this season. Only Kenny and Hennessey are probably worse first team keepers in the league. I still think he is good but perhaps not worth the speculated 4million we would need to pay to get him, or the 30k plus wages we would have to pay him.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: BaggieJames114 on February 05, 2012, 12:14:57 AM
We restrict teams but when they get to our byline and pull it across Foster cant really do anything
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: tuamigos on February 05, 2012, 07:55:17 AM
I think our goalkeeping coach should be having a word in his shell like regarding dribbling round the opposition forward in your own goal area
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: johnthebaggie on February 05, 2012, 08:08:44 AM
I can't remember him making a save today and plenty of other games. Why is this?

Do we really resrict the opposition ability to shoot on target, but when they do they it's clear cut and they score? Is he a poor keeper who should be stopping more of the goals that have gone in?

I don't think he is a bad keeper but i'm yet to see a game where he has gained us a point or all three. Most games he just picks the ball out his net a couple of times - the rest of his time he is a spectator it seems. He doesn't command his area brilliantly either.

If we stay up is there a better keeper we could get?
Saved a penalty against Stoke.

He's not a bad keeper, not the greatest but not the worst. To be fair the opposition doesn't have that many chances in games, lots of possession but few chances, trouble is our defence gifts the chances so Foster is usually exposed and a goal is scored.

He has made mistakes but in the main he shouldn't be held too responsible for te goals conceded.

Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: baggieheart on February 05, 2012, 09:10:37 AM
I like him to be honest think he has very good handling ability.

He has nothing to do because of the way we play.

Bigger issues than the goalkeeper for me such as lack of desire & workrate from the outfield. No will to win.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: RowleyBaggie2 on February 05, 2012, 09:58:40 AM
Some bizzare comments about the best goalkeeper we have had for some time.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: wbastrollers on February 05, 2012, 10:05:09 AM
Some bizzare comments about the best goalkeeper we have had for some time.

I could not agree more.
Could this be someone who is still sulking over the exit of Carson.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: graka on February 05, 2012, 10:37:46 AM
an excellent goalie who very rarely makes a howler which costs us points ala carson.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: DudleyBaggieFan on February 05, 2012, 11:36:37 AM
an excellent goalie who very rarely makes a howler which costs us points ala carson.
stoke at home earlier in season? That said he is the best keeper we've had for a while.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Dudleylad on February 05, 2012, 11:53:42 AM
According to the stats on the Premier League website hes 10th out of 20 starting keepers and the 2nd best English goalkeeper in the League.

Says all that needs to be said really
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: AshD on February 05, 2012, 12:01:56 PM
With regards to him letting in goals, look back and tell me the last goal that went in where you said "he should have saved that"!?!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: B_H_Baggie on February 05, 2012, 12:17:03 PM
I can't remember him making a save today and plenty of other games. Why is this?

Do we really resrict the opposition ability to shoot on target, but when they do they it's clear cut and they score?

I think it is that to be honest. We restrict sides well most of the times but that lack of concentration from someone presents the opposition with the easiest of chances to score past us often leaving him with absolutely no chance. Carson was exactly the same in some games, nothing to do but pick the ball out of the net after a tap in.

Foster is the best keeper we have had for a good number of years there is no doubt about that for me, he has his weaknesses like any other but we need to look at those in front of him and whether they are doing their jobs right. It isn't his fault our wingers or central midfield players sometimes don't track the runners when they should.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Dudleylad on February 05, 2012, 12:22:03 PM
One good thing about Foster is he gives the defenders infront of him certainty.

He does not always make the right decision but he doesnt change his mind once he commits himself and its one thing Carson struggled at as he always seemed to be in two minds when making critical decisions
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Rich99 on February 05, 2012, 12:28:32 PM
What team Rich? I can't think of many that would be desperate to take him. Maybe Sunderland.

Things change, for example there's talk of Krul being poached away from Newcastle.

I just think if he didn't stay with us or blues he'd probably find another Premiership club to go to and start for.  Olsson aside, on current form, I'm not sure how many of our other players one could say that about.

I do agree that he's possibly over priced both fee and wages wise though (I think he was one of the most expensive keepers when at blues), however most English players are.   It will be a question come the summer given the price, but for me he's done more than perfectly well enough for us so far.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: KingKoren on February 05, 2012, 04:20:25 PM
In a way I'm glad it is a loan deal for foster. With no certainty of him signing at the conclusion of this season, I'm sure we have been stockpiling a list of alternatives perhaps better keepers for less money. If we can take Foster he is more than adequate though and hopefully he can improve. I think if we had played worse and he had made a lot of saves, I would feel more confident about him.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: spencer Baggie on February 05, 2012, 05:00:16 PM
He is much better than Carson. He made some great saves against Man City, which I certianly think earned us that point.

And against Newcastle. Won that game for us.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Adder on February 05, 2012, 09:20:04 PM
For me Ruddy and Vorm have been much better than Foster this season. Only Kenny and Hennessey are probably worse first team keepers in the league. I still think he is good but perhaps not worth the speculated 4million we would need to pay to get him, or the 30k plus wages we would have to pay him.
Think Ruddy and Vorm have had some much busier games than Foster where they've had to make a string of saves. As the title of this thread suggests, we haven't been under seige that much and lets face it Foster hasn't made any howlers has he ? The goals in the last 4 home games he couldn't have done  much about.
For the record, Hennessy has made one or two errors but think he's also had some very good games and will be a really good keeper - better than de Gea.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: chipperclark on February 06, 2012, 01:28:00 AM
 ;D Has everyone noticed how passionate he has become with our club,remembering he is a loan player.
He was punching the air with glee after MAF scored.

Came up for a couple of corners near the end to help out.

Has been playing well every game for the last few months.

He has more passion than some of our regular players. Foster is a true professional and plays the best he can every game...I just wish this would rub off on a few other non-performing players......and I will not name names they know who they are!!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Semaj Riatsila on February 06, 2012, 02:11:59 AM
Yes he has been very passionate over the last few games when we have scored.  It's good to see.

Definatley worth keeping if possible come the summer.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: WBASPE77 on February 06, 2012, 08:46:30 AM
He has been a top keeper for us this season, I really hope we keep him.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: lewisant on February 06, 2012, 10:16:01 AM
yeah i notice it and i like, good on him
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: smethwickbaggie23 on February 06, 2012, 12:55:58 PM
agree.

chris hughton is doing too good a job at blues this season. we really need them to stop down so we can keep foster.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on February 06, 2012, 08:21:07 PM
(http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01448/foster_12_682x400_1448587a.jpg)

Bless him. I often miss his celebrations as I'm normally going mental myself.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Barrington on February 06, 2012, 08:48:18 PM
He's the best keeper we've had for years.

Fair play for starting the topic mate. That other thread negatively criticizing him is a disgrace to be honest. He's been excellent for us so far. I am too hoping that we can keep him come the end of the season. Really happy with him being our keeper.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: alex1 on February 06, 2012, 10:21:10 PM
I'm really happy with Foster in goal. He is very decisive, even though that decisiveness sometimes goes wrong, defenders would rather have someone who is positive, comes out for the ball, and has good handling. I would make it a priority to get him signed up, possibly using a part-exchange with one of our better players. Foster is the best keeper at the Hawthorns in years.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: boinging_along on February 06, 2012, 10:31:19 PM
I just don't see how anyone could criticise him this season.  Come into a new team, with a new defence in front, defenders who haven't played together much either, he's done a good job.  Rarely makes a mistake. 

We'd be crazy not to buy him if we can.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: KnaveofAlbion on February 06, 2012, 11:10:23 PM
I just don't see how anyone could criticise him this season.  Come into a new team, with a new defence in front, defenders who haven't played together much either, he's done a good job.  Rarely makes a mistake. 

We'd be crazy not to buy him if we can.

I sadly think we won't get the chance. If brum go up, which it looks like, then he'll go back i'd guess?

If we stay up (god i hope we do), Al Habsi would be a very good shout.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: tipton baggie 80 on February 06, 2012, 11:19:39 PM
Not so sure Blues are a cert to come up to be honest. Southampton and West Ham are very strong and the play offs are a lottery. Let's hope so re: Foster (and possibly Hughton).
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Lego on February 12, 2012, 02:25:56 PM
First shot on target = goal. Poor effort from defence and keeper. Can't believe we have let wolves back in it. Yet again in game when opposition keeper makes a string of fine saves and first time we need our keeper to do his job were left wanting.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Mulumbu99 on February 12, 2012, 02:27:32 PM
First shot on target = goal. Poor effort from defence and keeper. Can't believe we have let wolves back in it. Yet again in game when opposition keeper makes a string of fine saves and first time we need our keeper to do his job were left wanting.

how the **** was it a poor effort by the keeper ? it was a quality finish.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Dudleylad on February 12, 2012, 02:28:20 PM
Yes a sublime turn and shot into the bottom corner was the keepers fault ::)
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: WBASPE77 on February 12, 2012, 02:32:50 PM
Caarnt blame Foster for the goal. It was a decent finish.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Lego on February 12, 2012, 03:18:07 PM
Take it back guys, too much to drink. His save the turning point of the game.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: mateinone on February 12, 2012, 03:26:51 PM
Absolutely no keeper was stopping that goal today.
Made some crucial saves in this game.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: RowleyBaggie2 on February 12, 2012, 04:15:26 PM
An absoloute worldie at 2-1.

They had a boy in goal, we had a man.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: overseas baggie on February 12, 2012, 04:19:29 PM
An absoloute worldie at 2-1.

They had a boy in goal, we had a man.

To be fair, Hennessy was outstanding in the first half an hour. They would have been 3 or 4 nil down by then if it wasn't for him.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Dudleylad on February 12, 2012, 04:20:23 PM
Hes always the same though hes like Carson hes over prone to serious mistakes when the pressure is on.

Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Pistol Pete on February 12, 2012, 04:32:03 PM
With the amount of shots Wolves have against them I think it's unsurprising that Hennessey makes mistakes, he kept them in it at some stages in this game - luckily for us he made up for it with his mistakes.

Foster had 4 shots against him today which I recall, 3 very good saves and 1 very good finish. Can't really complain too much.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: HampshireBaggie on February 12, 2012, 04:51:58 PM
anyone notice him run the entire length of the pitch to celebrate the 4th or 5th goal today?
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: overseas baggie on February 12, 2012, 04:56:26 PM
anyone notice him run the entire length of the pitch to celebrate the 4th or 5th goal today?

Yes - it was after the Andrews goal. Great to see!

Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Andio on February 12, 2012, 05:02:56 PM
anyone notice him run the entire length of the pitch to celebrate the 4th or 5th goal today?

Yes, produced a fantastic save from a header when the Dingles were knocking on the door as well.

This guy is great.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on February 12, 2012, 05:13:39 PM
How many goals has Hennessey gifted us now. 2 or 3 is it?

The save from Foster was so pivitol into how the rest of the game panned out. Terrific save which you could say won us the game.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: geoff on February 12, 2012, 05:15:03 PM
We will have to pay big bucks to keep hold of Ben if blues don't come up i would have thought Arsenal our chelsea would be interested in signing him.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: CL3MO on February 12, 2012, 05:18:28 PM
An absoloute worldie at 2-1.

They had a boy in goal, we had a man.

Top class from Foster but incredibly harsh on Hennessy. If it wasn't for him it probably could have been one of the biggest Prem defeats of all time.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: KingKoren on February 12, 2012, 09:00:12 PM
I swear he makes less saves than any other keeper in the league  :P. Made one crucial one today though.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Rich99 on February 12, 2012, 10:23:03 PM
It could have easily gone to 2-2 with a different keeper between the sticks.  Goals can very much change games.

For me, from what I've seen so far, he's certainly more than good enough for us right now.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Rich99 on February 12, 2012, 10:25:51 PM
...harsh on Hennessy. If it wasn't for him it probably could have been one of the biggest Prem defeats of all time.

He does that a lot of games though, it's not a one off, but a bit of a trend: he makes a few very good eye catching saves, then lets in a few weak ones to undo all the good work he did.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: wbatillidie on February 12, 2012, 10:30:39 PM
Nothing he could have done about the first one, went through Reid's legs and made a brilliant save at 2-1
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: WBASPE77 on February 12, 2012, 10:50:16 PM
He made some great saves in the second half, great keeper.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: royhan on February 12, 2012, 11:06:08 PM
I was impressed at how well he commanded his area, particularly the high balls.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: WSBaggie on February 25, 2012, 11:59:49 PM
So then does anybody know whether there is a deal in place or not for him?

Best keeper we have had here in a while and my mate who's a Bluenose seems adament he will be going back to them if they go up.

The only rumours I have heard is a 4 mill permanent deal is in place for the summer and it's up to us whether we want him or not. But again this is only a rumour, anyone heard this or anything different?
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Rich99 on February 26, 2012, 12:08:25 AM
After having had 26 games to view him in now, I'd say yes, he's a pretty apparent improvement on last season.

He did well to get to that shot today, let alone put such a strong arm to it.  Failure to do things like that, resulting in a goal, can turn the momentum of games.  Some of his distribution was superb as well.

He's made some real top draw saves this season, some of them crucial, point winning. 

Personally I also feel that he's dealt pretty well with crosses into the area and though he's had his one or two moments, has generally been pretty commanding in the box.

I think he's more than good enough for us right now and would be pleased if we kept him.  It's a thumbs up from me, for what it's worth. ;D
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: smosher34 on February 26, 2012, 12:22:40 AM
and the crowd love him to , YES  a massive improvement on carson sign him up  ;) he just loves playing football arm pumping when we score
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Dubya BA on February 26, 2012, 12:41:50 AM
Sign him up for a 5 year contract, the guy is QUALITY!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: DommyKeay19 on February 26, 2012, 01:13:42 AM
Yeah he's a top keeper, love him. His handling & reflexes are up there with the best, i was at Fulham and got there too early and just watched Kiely pinging shots at him, dropped hardly anything. Seems like a nice bloke aswell from what i've read in the media, just hope Blues stay down so we don't have any trouble keeping him.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: alex1 on February 26, 2012, 01:32:37 AM
I would make it the first priority in the next transfer window to get Foster signed up. Although I was never anti- Carson, he did have a'blunder' every so often which inevitably led to goals conceded. Of course every keeper makes blunders, but if you compare how many points Foster has won for Albion compared to how many Carson did, you'd find Foster is a massive plus. He very rarely fumbles the ball. More importantly his communication  is much better which builds confidence. That helps explain why our defence is better organised this season.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: beechyboy90 on February 26, 2012, 01:37:18 AM
i hope it is! great assist today and some good saves!

i think the blues would like him back though if they can
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: mateinone on February 26, 2012, 02:27:11 AM
I really hope that we can hold onto him, best keeper since Hoult, maybe even better than him.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: jonny on February 26, 2012, 04:41:49 AM
It'll be a weird situation if they go up.

As a top quality keeper he will have to step down to a team who will be favourites to go down from a team where he is:

a) Fans favourite

b) obviously enjoying his football and

c) playing for a club who will arguably be safe and looking to challenge for cups/ europa league.

I wonder if he will hand in a transfer request/ want to move?
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: tuamigos on February 26, 2012, 06:26:36 AM
I believe we have him on loan until the end of the season with the option to buy if Blues dont get promoted.
That said if Blues do get promoted and we still want Foster then I expect we have to go through the normal format of bidding for players.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Kicking Pigeons on February 26, 2012, 08:48:15 AM
It would be a massive blow to lose Foster. Bar the Stoke mistake he's been terrific all season. Superb shot stopping, good distribution, commands his area magnificently, confidently comes for crosses and gets them taking massive pressure off the defence, vocal, comfortable with the ball at his feet, has the confidence of the players in front of him, has a great attitude... I liked Carson, I liked Kiely, I liked Kuszczak, but I feel more confident with Foster in the team than I did with all three of those players put together, he might even be better than Hoult. When Foster has to make a standard save I don't half expect him to spill it or let it roll through him and when the ball is played into the box I feel confident in Foster coming to claim it (something Carson, Myhill, Kiely and TK really really struggled to do).

I don't have anything against Blues, but I'm looking at them hoping they lose every match at the moment so they don't come up and snatch him back!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on February 26, 2012, 12:20:46 PM
Foster hates the Dingles, Foster the hates Dingles la la la.

Loved his reaction to when we sang 'Foster do you hate the Wolves'.

His handling was superb yesterday, as was his distribution for the third goal, certainly a very important player for us and one we must keep if we're to carry on moving forward.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: reiss on February 26, 2012, 12:28:53 PM
if the rummor is true, i would pay 4million for him
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: KnaveofAlbion on February 26, 2012, 12:34:43 PM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: BaggieJames114 on February 26, 2012, 12:40:26 PM
Hes a great keeper, I cant see the Blues coming up despite their league position atm. They will run out of steam as they have played so many games this season. Still got a FA cup replay to come and 14 games to go in the league, then on top of that the Play offs as that is their best chance. Would be really gutted if he isnt our keeper next season
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: reiss on February 26, 2012, 12:42:18 PM
Hes a great keeper, I cant see the Blues coming up despite their league position atm. They will run out of steam as they have played so many games this season. Still got a FA cup replay to come and 14 games to go in the league, then on top of that the Play offs as that is their best chance. Would be really gutted if he isnt our keeper next season

i can see them getting into play-offs, but to lose in final
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: WBASPE77 on February 26, 2012, 12:43:42 PM
The best Albion keeper ive seen since i have been a fan. great throw out to Mozza Yesterday, also made a top class save.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: BaggieJames114 on February 26, 2012, 12:56:14 PM
Still Hoult for me in my lifetime. But the thing is, If Foster stays. He has played for ManU for a number of years without getting matches. So he wants games, So long as we are in the PL i think he would be happy to stay and play for us. We could have the GK position sroted for years to come like Bolton have with Jussi (Not going to try spell his surname  :P)
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: TLMS17 on February 26, 2012, 01:03:57 PM
Quality player, so glad he came, think we will keep him as has been said previously his wages may be too much for Blues
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Andio on February 26, 2012, 01:31:52 PM
as was his distribution for the third goal,

And his 50 yard pass straight to Ridgewell set us up for the 2nd goal, everybody appears to be overlooking that one.  ;)
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: lippypig on February 26, 2012, 03:39:45 PM
Actually have some inside info on this one, Ben is happy at the Hawthorns, wants to stay it is all down to whether we pay the money. We can not afford to lose this guy he is by far the best goal keeper I have seen at the Albion, best since Tony Godden in my opinion.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: WSBaggie on February 26, 2012, 04:05:33 PM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: PortsmouthBaggie on February 26, 2012, 04:37:56 PM
Must be kept at all costs! No other available keeper comes anywhere near Ben.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: divinewind on February 26, 2012, 05:16:18 PM
I hope we keep him,the best we have had since Houlty,and he seems to like it here.

Nothing against Blues but i hope they don't make it this season.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Standaman on February 27, 2012, 12:39:31 AM
I hope we retain Foster I think we are fortunate that he is very settled in the Midlands so providing Blues do not return to the Premier League this year I think we have every chance. Right now there isn't a keeper close to being as good as him that we could afford.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: 63Brummie on February 27, 2012, 12:51:17 AM
I really hope that we can hold onto him, best keeper since Hoult, maybe even better than him.
I really liked Hoult.......they're about the same IMHO...
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Albion UK on February 27, 2012, 02:28:05 AM
If Foster does go back to blues then the best we can hope for is Blackburn or Wigan go down and we rob one of there keepers.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: The Black Pearl on February 27, 2012, 06:43:39 AM
Got better and better as the season has gone on, should be the back up to Hart in the England set up on current form.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: tuamigos on February 27, 2012, 07:05:07 AM
If Foster does go back to blues then the best we can hope for is Blackburn or Wigan go down and we rob one of there keepers.

I'd sooner keep Foster
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: JDWest_Brom on February 27, 2012, 08:51:23 AM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: WBAinDEVON on February 27, 2012, 09:03:22 AM
Tony Godden for me is the best keeper i have seen in an Albion shirt but i have no problem paying 4 million for Foster.
Like someone has said Blues will run out of steam
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: jonny on March 02, 2012, 08:45:01 PM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: wbako on March 02, 2012, 09:03:22 PM
Foster is the best keeper i've seen in the 20 years I've been going down the Albion and I would love to keep hold of him. That said, I don't want to be held to ransom by Small Heath. In my eyes 4-5 mill would be a damn good offer, and considering their dire financial situation, one they'd be daft to turn down. Just have to hope they stay in the Chumpionship and we stay up with the big boys.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Standaman on March 03, 2012, 01:12:01 AM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Rich99 on March 03, 2012, 01:22:31 AM
The guys quality for me, however I get the feeling he may not even stay at Blues or us though.  I hope I'm wrong.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Baggie Artist on March 03, 2012, 02:57:23 AM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: beechyboy90 on March 03, 2012, 03:00:48 AM
5mill
not many keepers better then him who are in our price range!
hopefully we get him, he was slow starting for me but the last 2 months he has been solid
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: tuamigos on March 03, 2012, 07:15:03 AM
I think we have to do all we can to keep Foster.
Since we've had a solid keeper the back four look more confident.
If it means we have to pay the going rate then that's what we have to do.
On the plus side Brum's finances are not in a good state so maybe finances will dictate that blues have to look at selling regardless of what division they are in.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: RowleyBaggie2 on March 03, 2012, 09:35:08 AM
I've a feeling he will end up at Spurs sadly.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: HampshireBaggie on March 03, 2012, 09:38:00 AM
I've a feeling he will end up at Spurs sadly.

Any basis to this mate? i can't see it. I think Friedel will go for 1 more year, he is still quality.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: RowleyBaggie2 on March 03, 2012, 09:52:03 AM
Just a feeling really, both their keepers are very old. I'm also alive to the fact its totally out of our hands.

Whatever happens I'm sure the club have a contingency plan.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Londonbaggymike on March 03, 2012, 10:57:46 AM
Just a feeling really, both their keepers are very old. I'm also alive to the fact its totally out of our hands.

Whatever happens I'm sure the club have a contingency plan.

It's swings and roundabouts really. He's had a very good season for us (which is great) and this highlights him to clubs with more cash than us (which is a shame).

I agree that there is a contingency plan; that's what DA does!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Kicking Pigeons on March 03, 2012, 06:17:18 PM
Another fantastic save today, this time from Essien. Also a lot of people are saying Essien should've easily scored when he was through after the Reid mistake, maybe he could of done better, but I think it was fantastic play from Foster that any defender would be proud of.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: royhan on March 03, 2012, 06:18:20 PM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: WBASPE77 on March 03, 2012, 06:20:22 PM
Six million I went for, I carnt really remeber him making a massive mistake for us this season.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Rich99 on March 03, 2012, 06:21:20 PM
Superb today I thought. Commanding, faultlessly caught everything he could and made a great save. He even ran out and sort of sold one of their oncoming players through on goal, a dummy, to take the ball from him :D.  I thought his distribution was very good too, particularly his throwing which set us off on attack several times.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Kicking Pigeons on March 03, 2012, 06:31:23 PM
Six million I went for, I carnt really remeber him making a massive mistake for us this season.
Stoke at home, but that's about it, he's won us a massive amount of points with the outstanding saves and other contributions he's made this season.

How much? 5 million? Maybe even 6 million. I don't care as long as we get him. We've been extremely lucky to have him for this season, he's a genuine top top class goalkeeper, something not many clubs encounter very often, getting him should be the club's highest priority this summer.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Wbahunty on March 03, 2012, 06:32:31 PM
Hes the diffence, the defenders are confident to pass it back and know he comands his area.|

I dont get nervous at all but i used to worry every time it went back to Carson!

He is the 2nd best english goal keeper... put him in a top 4 team i think he could Hart a run for his money!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: buzzingbaggie on March 03, 2012, 06:36:21 PM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: jonny on March 03, 2012, 06:53:10 PM
World class save again today. One handed beaut in the first half.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: tipton baggie 80 on March 03, 2012, 07:28:07 PM
Just seen a quote from Ben from the West Bromwich Albion facebook page;

"The fans are class, absolute class - every time i turn around and look at them they're always going wild - they love it"

Seems he's really buying into us. Hope we can keep him
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Dexy on March 03, 2012, 08:51:41 PM
Foster is another who falls in the catagory of "If Roy stays" imo,if Roy does stay next season i think we have a much better chance of keeping Ben and a few others who are running low on contract for that matter.
Blues are going to want top money for him if they do sell,we have to remember they sold Johnson to Wolves for a 6/7 million so what on earth would they want for Foster?.
Id love to keep him as we both have been good for each other but im sure as a club we have a back up plan if not.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: BaggieJames114 on March 03, 2012, 08:59:58 PM
His celebration when GMac scored today was brilliant. He went mental all on his own, love his passion. In great form. Need to start singing sign him up
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: GrGr on March 03, 2012, 09:13:30 PM
Do you think there is an agreed transfer fee in place, if we stay up and Brum don't get promoted?
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Sealandair on March 03, 2012, 09:26:43 PM
Personally , i prefer Scott Carson,more commanding, more agile, an all round better keeper
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Wbahunty on March 03, 2012, 09:56:19 PM
I would pay anything to get him playing with us next year!

He is and has been so important for us!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: wbako on March 03, 2012, 10:04:40 PM
Personally , i prefer Scott Carson,more commanding, more agile, an all round better keeper

You think carson is a better keeper than Foster? I've drank an awful lot tonight, but I am reading this correctly...
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: RuncornBaggie on March 03, 2012, 10:08:04 PM
I believe that sealandair was joking!!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: wbako on March 03, 2012, 10:12:22 PM
I believe that sealandair was joking!!

Jolly good!

*returns to can of red stripe*
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: alex1 on March 04, 2012, 12:31:20 AM
Not really helpful trying to put a figure on him. Depends on lots of things. Albion may be able to do a player part exchange with Blues. However, I think he's got to be a priority signing. Foster is still young enough for a keeper, and he can be one of Albion's building blocks for the long term. We are not going to find another keeper in his class. His saves are winning points for Albion. What's more I like the enthusiasm he's showing on the field, celebrating goals. The best keeper I have seen at the Albion. 
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Pistol Pete on March 04, 2012, 10:26:25 AM
I think 4 million would be fair if he wants to move. I'd pay up to 7 though, I think he is an improvement on anything else we could potentially draw in for a similar price.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: coleyboing on March 04, 2012, 10:32:02 AM
I would pay anything to get him playing with us next year!

He is and has been so important for us!
Agree
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: jonny on March 04, 2012, 10:48:46 AM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: zippyandbungle on March 04, 2012, 01:04:43 PM
Lots of things to consider, the blues may not be able to buy players? Depending on their financial position .
If that's the case they may prefer some money plus players , or loans .
He will definitely be here next season , he is settled, his family is settled , he has been at a "bigger" club before (so has Roy) and these factors all point to our retention.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: saml30 on March 04, 2012, 02:27:56 PM
i would give them Myhill and another and then bid 5Million for him, vital for our development IMO
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: DudleyBaggieFan on March 04, 2012, 02:48:34 PM
6 mil plus myhill seems fair. Cracking keeper and worth the outlay!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: KnaveofAlbion on March 04, 2012, 04:05:39 PM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: DudleyBaggieFan on March 04, 2012, 04:12:46 PM
I was under the impression if blues don't come up, a pre arranged fee would kick in. Thought I heard that when we signed him.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Jimmy on March 04, 2012, 05:04:32 PM
Need to offer a price that doesn't insult him.

Show Foster what his quality means to us.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Do I not like Wolves on March 04, 2012, 06:31:02 PM
Are we asking how much he is worth or how much we will have to pay? The two figures could be different?
Definitely the best since Hoult.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: KnaveofAlbion on March 04, 2012, 09:57:49 PM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: tuamigos on March 05, 2012, 06:46:42 AM
Lots of things to consider, the blues may not be able to buy players? Depending on their financial position .
If that's the case they may prefer some money plus players , or loans .
He will definitely be here next season , he is settled, his family is settled , he has been at a "bigger" club before (so has Roy) and these factors all point to our retention.

Sorry, but unless you have some serious insider knowledge I dont see how you can say that.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: geoff on March 05, 2012, 08:24:30 AM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: JDWest_Brom on March 05, 2012, 09:15:42 AM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: matt_home1 on March 05, 2012, 11:12:51 AM
Looks as if foster enjoys playing at west brom, that alone with Birmingham needing money will save us a few million, I guess jp could throw a few fringe players in too Birmingham do need good players cheap
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Jimbo Baggy on March 05, 2012, 01:28:25 PM
Will easily fetch at least 6 million,time for Jeremy to back Roy,big summer.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Hull Baggie on March 07, 2012, 09:27:58 AM
I'd pay up to 6M for him. He has been outstanding this season.

I don't think Blues will get promoted...they looked like they were running on empty last night against Chelsea. I think it's a case of too many games for them. Hope I'm right!

Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: PortsmouthBaggie on March 12, 2012, 10:00:20 AM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: brummyroader on March 12, 2012, 01:04:41 PM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Standaman on March 12, 2012, 06:05:37 PM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: zippyandbungle on March 13, 2012, 10:10:52 PM
However their position was quite bad and they still got seven mill for Peter Barlow to the dingles?
I think the deals already in place and around 4m
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Standaman on March 14, 2012, 10:12:02 AM
However their position was quite bad and they still got seven mill for Peter Barlow to the dingles?
I think the deals already in place and around 4m

I don't think a deal is in place the loan agreement suited all parties. We were trying to drive a hard bargain on a permanent deal while Blues were trying really hard not to let Foster go at a knock down price but had to get his wages off the book. Twelve months on things will be resolved Blues will still need the money and have run out of saleable assets apart from Zigic and Redmond the cupboard is bare 
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: stoxman on March 19, 2012, 08:52:12 AM
I've always been slightly mystified as to why goalkeepers carry such small fees relative to other players. Clubs will happily throw 20m at a striker (or even more for even less in the case of Torres, Carroll etc), 20m on a midfielder or centre half. Liverpool have even spent this on full-backs in the past and yet it is really rare for any club to spend even 10m on a goal keeper. A great keeper can make every bit as much difference as any other position- think about Cech v Drogba, Terry or Lampard or Van der Sar v Rooney, Scholes , Ferdinand. The keeper probably won as many points as any other. 

I find it especially odd when one thinks that a goalkeeper is likely to play at their peak for 5 years longer than an outfield player and also spend a lot less time on the treatment table. Finally, having a great keeper can mean that you can afford to spend a bit less on defenders as we have already seen the cathartic effect of having a great organiser behind them.

Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: PsalmXXIII on March 19, 2012, 10:50:44 AM
Absolutely have to sign him, but the price, as always with Mr. Peace, needs to be right.

6m I'd say, he'd still be a relatively expensive signing as Goalies go, but you've all seen how much of an Impact he has on the team, and he seems to genuinely like it here.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: the rainbow turn east on March 19, 2012, 11:29:31 AM
I reckon Blues will want around 10M for him which will price us out.
This summer is going to be the most important in Albions history,
Hopefully we`ll get Foster for 5-6M, Odemwingie stays another season , and Hodgson and Olsson sign
new contracts. Ive just got this feeling though that none of these things will happen.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Tonbrom on March 19, 2012, 11:59:25 AM
foster is worth around 5 million. 10 is a bit of a stretch IMO.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: JDWest_Brom on March 19, 2012, 04:29:16 PM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Greenock Baggie on March 19, 2012, 06:36:54 PM
I voted 7 - 8 million as the amount I would pay but wouldnt expect J.P to pay over 6. There are other options, not as good I grant you but they are out there !
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: alex1 on March 19, 2012, 10:19:19 PM
I think getting a Foster is first priority. If we can't get him for a cash sum, I would put Wood , Cox or Shorey  into the equation.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: costa blanca baggie on March 20, 2012, 12:04:18 AM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Ben1983 on March 20, 2012, 12:20:13 AM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Baggies on March 20, 2012, 06:51:17 PM
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11095/7612722/?

Foster hints at Baggies move

On-loan keeper playing waiting game

Ben Foster: Enjoying his time at West Brom

Goalkeeper Ben Foster has hinted at making his loan move to West Brom a permanent one come the end of the season.

The former England international is currently enjoying a season-long loan from West Midlands rivals Birmingham City and Albion boss Roy Hodgson claimed recently that the club have a good chance of signing the 28-year-old this summer.

Foster, who has enjoyed a solid season between the sticks at The Hawthorns, admits it will be easier to push through a permanent deal if Blues stay in the Championship.

Enjoyment

"I am enjoying it here," the former Manchester United keeper told the Express & Star. "It was nice to stay in the area and coming to West Brom was a nice way to do that for me.

"As the season has gone on I have enjoyed it more and more. It's such a good club and I have made a lot of new friends and we will just have to see what happens at the end of the season.

"We don't know what's going to happen. West Brom are in a very good position for next season so it's down to Birmingham.

"They're doing very well in the Championship at the moment and going for promotion and I'm sure a decision will be made at the end of the season.

"Should Birmingham get promotion, I'm sure that would change things a bit, but we'll just have to wait and see."
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: MulumbuPower! on March 22, 2012, 12:16:09 AM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: DaveWBA on March 22, 2012, 11:00:58 AM
http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/transfer-news/Transfer-gossip-West-Brom-want-buy-Ben-Foster-from-Birmingham-after-loan-spell-was-success-article881277.html

Looks like we might get our wish :)

If rumours are to be believed that Butland kid is off to Chelsea in the summer, would leave them very short if they sold us Foster.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Hunnington Baggie on March 22, 2012, 11:52:57 AM
not heard anything from Butland. But yeah looks like Foster wants to be here, Albion want him here and Blues haven't got the highest cards to play, it's dependent on what hapens at the end of the season.

Let's hope we call their bluff.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: MulumbuPower! on March 22, 2012, 01:23:04 PM
I heard the blues kid is off to Arsenal.. ? Either way I like that we seem to want to make progress with this, even if its only in the press.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: wobbs68 on March 24, 2012, 08:23:06 AM
Not sure if I've missed this but surely we should be starting to put pressure on the Board to keep Ben Foster.
He obviously enjoys playing for us as it shines through in his body language and as a relatively local lad he's happy being a Baggie as he is close to his family in Leamington.
Time for the fans to show their desire to keep him, sing his name and tell the board that 'Foster must stay'.  Best keeper at the Hawthorns since Hoult and probably in my all time top 3 keepers here.

Boing
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: BoingFlyer on March 24, 2012, 09:50:47 AM


Does anyone know how long remains on his contract with the blues? If they fail to gain promotion I would think he is as good as ours.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: AlbionBest on March 24, 2012, 11:09:33 AM
Would be a key pivotal signing if we got him - noticed Roy was putting a little pressure on the Board yesterday with his comments about signing quality like Foster.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: TLMS17 on March 24, 2012, 11:21:10 AM
Keeping him could depend how well we do next season. Keep him and we have a good chance to kick on, lose him and I doubt we could replace him with a keeper as good as he is. Must sign in my opinion
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: leeiswba on March 24, 2012, 11:26:51 AM
'Hodgson, Hodgson sign him up!'
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: johnthebaggie on March 24, 2012, 11:28:48 AM
It's not in our hands, regardless of any pressure.

If blues come up I really can't see them selling.

However if they stay down I'd be annoyed if we didnt try to sign. As long as stupid money isn't involved, ie 10 million. We should get him. I would imagine we are paying his wages so that side shouldn't be an issue.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Hunnington Baggie on March 24, 2012, 12:34:22 PM
I believe that Albion (or just Hodgson) has asked Blues for a verdict before season's end. It looks like we're trying to force their hand already  :D
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: up_the_baggies on March 24, 2012, 12:40:58 PM
Pretty sure everyone at the club is in one mind, and that's to sign him up if possible. Ben himself looks to be really enjoying his time at Albion, which will obviously go in our favour.

If Blues fail to come up, will we have competition from more established PL club's to sign him?
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: RuncornBaggie on March 24, 2012, 01:22:55 PM
I think that if it takes 8-9-10 million then we need to pay it.  The best keeper I have ever seen in an Albion jersey.  We could try and get someone else in for a few million and they turn out to be Zuberhuler! Just pay it, we know what he can do......we know he wants to come......dont play the waiting game to save fifty quid and miss out to someone else who can come in and make a quick transfer deal!

Come on JP......you know it makes sense.....I think he is worth somewhere between 5-8 million for what its worth!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: jjb0rdell0 on March 24, 2012, 02:19:59 PM
if foster doesn't sign I hear there's this young hotshot who recently moved to turkey... ;)
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: johnthebaggie on March 24, 2012, 02:32:22 PM
Pretty sure everyone at the club is in one mind, and that's to sign him up if possible. Ben himself looks to be really enjoying his time at Albion, which will obviously go in our favour.

If Blues fail to come up, will we have competition from more established PL club's to sign him?
Possibly, not sure how many on a higher level that Albion could offer first team, regular football.

We should be able to compete with the majority of clubs at our level.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: KnaveofAlbion on March 24, 2012, 02:39:48 PM
. Not sure it's a smart move. Everyone already wants him, so it's not like you're trying to convince anyone. But if it's seen the Albion crowd are baying for board blood unless we sign Foster it will help Blues negotiate a better deal maybe?!

Everyone (near enough) wants Foster and Hodgson to stay. I'm sure the board will do all they can
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Kicking Pigeons on March 25, 2012, 12:16:00 AM
If Blues fail to come up, will we have competition from more established PL club's to sign him?
Was just thinking about who else would be interested in him...

Arsenal - unlikely, Szczesny's looks a good and very promising young keeper
Aston Villa - no, unless they lose Given
Blackburn - no, unless they lose Robinson
Bolton - unlikely, they still have Jaaskelainen and young Bogdan who's keeping him out the team
Chelsea - unlikely, I think they'll stick with Cech, if they don't they'll probably go for a bigger name from abroad
Everton - no, unless they lose Howard
Fulham - no, I think they'll either stick with Schwarzer or promote Stockdale
Liverpool - no, unless they lose Reina
Man City - no
Man Utd - no
Newcastle - no, unless they lose Krul (don't think they will)
QPR - if they stay up (which I can't see happening) then maybe, they have the funds to afford him, but I doubt Foster would interested in going there which could play a big part.
Stoke - they'll probably be linked with him since they always are with our potential signings, but I doubt they'll want him when they have Begovic and Sorensen. No.
Sunderland - unlikely, they have Mignolet and Westwood and now Gordon seems to be coming back from injury.
Swansea -  no, unless they lose Vorm, even if they did lose him I'd be surprised if they were willing to splash out on Foster
Tottenham - Spurs are who worries me the most. Friedel's had a good season, but at 40 I'm wondering whether they'll see him as too old and will want to replace him with someone younger. I can't see them persisting with Gomes who's been a calamity and Cudicini will always be a back-up. I don't think Foster would turn down a move there either.
Wigan - no, if they stop up they'll stick with Al-Habsi unless they lose him
Any of the promoted sides (bar Blues) - can't see any of the potential promoted sides being able to afford him or willing to pay the asking price.


Don't really know why I took the time writing that list, but basically, Spurs are the team worrying me the most. Friedel has had a good solid season with them so hopefully they'll see his age as just a number and no reason to bring in a younger replacement and will stick with him for another season.

On top of all the other PL teams seemingly being sorted for a number 1, numerous other factors seem to be in our favour. It's pretty clear Hodgson and the club want him and that Foster wants to stay here. A lot seems to depend on whether Birmingham go up or not, but does it? Even if they did go up their finances would still be poor, cashing in on Foster so they can afford to buy a few players would probably be in their best interests, especially when they have a very highly rated keeper in Doyle who could possibly be as good or even better than Foster. A few bigger clubs are sniffing around Doyle, so taking the chance and making him number 1 would probably be the only way they could keep him.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: tuamigos on March 27, 2012, 10:43:12 AM
Foster has spoken

http://www.newrossstandard.ie/breaking-news/sport/foster-keeping-his-options-open-3062004.html
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: phbaggies on March 27, 2012, 11:33:26 AM
BCFC stance as emailed to #WBA is Foster not for sale. Rethink if not promoted but say only then sell to bigger, richer clubs than #WBA!

James Nursey (Mirror) via Twitter
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Dexy on March 27, 2012, 11:35:35 AM
Qpr worries me the most,big money and he would be number 1 there straight away.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Dexy on March 27, 2012, 11:37:29 AM
Foster has spoken

http://www.newrossstandard.ie/breaking-news/sport/foster-keeping-his-options-open-3062004.html
Like the way he puts family first,i think he wants to stay tbh.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: phbaggies on March 27, 2012, 11:38:57 AM
Qpr worries me the most,big money and he would be number 1 there straight away.
Not so sure, Paddy Kenny is having an excellent season and is rated highly. Spurs are the ones to watch as Friedel is 40-41 and Cudicini not far behind him!!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: baggiebof on March 27, 2012, 12:28:06 PM
I really like Foster and want him to stay however I would not break the bank to ensure that he does. I would hope and expect that we have other excellent stoppers on our radar if Foster becomes out of our reach.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: alex1 on March 27, 2012, 11:18:35 PM
I think we have to prioritise securing Foster. If money becomes a problem with BCFC, then we have players who we could offer who would get into their first team, Cox,  Andrews, Shorey. Wood may be an extra to throw in.
I think having a sound keeper behind you, does wonders for the confidence in a defence. Think of all the defensive problems previous keepers have caused. So we should pull all out all the stops to get Foster.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Kicking Pigeons on March 27, 2012, 11:28:38 PM
Could Foster possibly play for them in the play-offs? They take place after the Premiership season ends, which means he'll return to Blues in time for them.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Standaman on March 28, 2012, 12:58:48 AM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: DanSinar Odemwingie on March 31, 2012, 01:30:23 PM
Stoke at home .


Personally i think that was tamas if in doubt smash it into row z not just move out of the way but i can see where your coming from aswell
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: clintsmoker on March 31, 2012, 03:00:56 PM
bad as carson is we needed a striker
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: 63Brummie on April 01, 2012, 03:00:28 PM
Hypothetical question here as I am very bored:- Do you think we'd have stayed up?!

I remember the season fairly well, here is the table:
http://www.wsn.com/football/english-premiership-league-table-2008-2009/ (http://www.wsn.com/football/english-premiership-league-table-2008-2009/)
We were 3 points off 17th! (Although, we also had worse goal difference)

As you can see, a VERY tight relegation ending - albeit I think most would agree we were relegated about 2 weeks prior to the final day, and in fact it looks a lot closer on paper than it actually was.

My point is, Foster has been excellent for us this season, and has not only done the spectacular (various quality saves) but has also done the basics right, with no fumbles, confidence from set-pieces and looks solid at stopping long-range shots. My point is, not only is he good - but he is reliable too.

Now, I don't want this to turn into a Carson bashing or comparison to Foster, I think we all agree Foster is the superior keeper. However, as the question says - if we had Foster, would we have stayed up?!

Off the top of my head I can remember a few Carson errors, such as his fumble/own goal which allowed Villa to win 2-1, or perhaps Foster would've saved Pompey's late/lucky equaliser which looped under his bar. Even, Foster may have saved Blackburn's penalty at home which would have seen us with the game.

I think it's fair to say, Carson dropped at least around 4 points for us. He wasn't a terrible keeper, but his errors could be quite fatal. It sounds astonishing to even think we could have stayed up, even insulting to an extent (we were relegated for a while if honest) - but would it have been the same with Foster?!

Now, I don't want this to turn

The simple answer to that is that the defense would still have been too porous...
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: wbarich on April 03, 2012, 02:29:45 PM
I voted 8m+ I would pay any amount for him, I would sign him at all costs!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Baggies on April 06, 2012, 06:07:50 PM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: FallOutBoy on April 06, 2012, 09:44:32 PM
Thing is, with Carson Yeung still being investigated and his assets frozen, Blues could still need to reduce the wage bill come the summer. Foster remains their most saleable asset, and if the right bid comes in, they would be forced to take it.

Alternatively, we could play chicken with them as the season approaches to try and drive the price down as they get desperate.

Or we could go for another keeper, and piss Blues right off. I'm beginning to think I would prefer this, simply to get at them (management and fans), knowing their top player wants to leave them for us.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: bigt on April 07, 2012, 05:15:28 PM
We must sign Him.what a performance today,he should also conciser coming out of his England retirement.
Top Keeper!!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: MICKYMEL on April 07, 2012, 05:23:39 PM
His saves are one thing, Carson was a decent shot stopper. It's his organising of defence and his handling/coming off his line so quick impresses me.
The mulumbu pass back is a prime example.

Hope blues stay down, cant se us keeping him if they dont.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: bigt on April 07, 2012, 05:30:49 PM
He wants to be a Baggie,hopefully we will!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: bangkokbaggie on April 07, 2012, 05:32:58 PM
Be interested to know what Blues fans would accept wherever their club ends up. Would they be happy to keep Myhill and 2/3 million from us for Foster?
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Hunnington Baggie on April 07, 2012, 05:39:31 PM
We must sign Him.what a performance today,he should also conciser coming out of his England retirement.
Top Keeper!!
I believe he's said that his improvements have come BECAUSE he's not worrying about England
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: wbako on April 07, 2012, 05:40:25 PM
What. A. Save.

Best keeper I've seen in an Albion shirt...by far.

Sign him up, sign him up, sign him up.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: paul_47 on April 07, 2012, 05:47:19 PM
For a SPINE player I think we would struggle to get better = No Brainer (whatever that means)  :D Sign him up!!!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: bigt on April 07, 2012, 05:55:05 PM
I believe he's said that his improvements have come BECAUSE he's not worrying about England

Well in that case for get about the England place,we must make his move permanent!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Hunnington Baggie on April 07, 2012, 05:57:20 PM
What. A. Save.

Best keeper I've seen in an Albion shirt...by far.


Sign him up, sign him up, sign him up.
You never saw Russel Hoult?
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: wbako on April 07, 2012, 06:09:49 PM
You never saw Russel Hoult?

Affirmative.

Foster is on another level.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: tuamigos on April 07, 2012, 06:27:52 PM
Brilliant again today.
We need to keep him, never mind signing an equal! there isnt one we could afford.
If we want to move on as a club, we must also move on the wage structure.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: jonny on April 07, 2012, 06:30:39 PM
The way he played today he needs to be our number one priority this summer!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: jonny on April 07, 2012, 06:33:13 PM
I did find it amusing that when the Blackburn player was down with the head injury he went mental at the Blackburn players for not kicking the ball out!

Passionate lad and loving it here!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: rajesh-wba on April 07, 2012, 07:31:21 PM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: hardtobeat on April 07, 2012, 07:53:47 PM
whatever it takes,not only for his own contribution but get it sorted early enough and it will send out a message of intent.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Albion79 on April 07, 2012, 08:50:47 PM
I know for a fact when Foster first joined he saw it as a loan move and wanted to go back to Brum, i think he was quite open about it, however something has obviously clicked with us because it appears he is desperate to stay now.

He loves us, we love him, do the decent thing, sign him up! He is still young in goalie years so by investing a decent sum now we could have a keeper with us for a good many years.

When he first joined i felt he would be slightly better than Carson but as the season has gone on he has got better and better and now i think he could be massive in the future for us, a good reliable keeper who wins us points, Carson may of done it this year, we will never know, but Foster has done it this year!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: AlbionBest on April 07, 2012, 09:08:26 PM
The guy's becoming a more vital cog in the team as the weeks go by - a player we can build a defence around for years to come.

We are now all but safe so should be planning for next season in the Prem - keeping Foster is a mustand will show how serious Peace is regarding moving the Club forward each season. Blooze will have dire money troubles even if they are promoted so will probably have to offload him so just depends what other clubs might be in for him.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Rich99 on April 07, 2012, 09:18:02 PM
I'd love us to keep him, but I doubt we will to be honest.  I think we'll be priced out of it sadly.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: AlbionBest on April 07, 2012, 09:26:00 PM
I'd love us to keep him, but I doubt we will to be honest.  I think we'll be priced out of it sadly.


All depends who comes in for him and where he prefers to go I suppose.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Mooncat on April 07, 2012, 09:45:14 PM
Should have got man of the match today. OUtstanding player, and as ManU have proved over the years, a good keeper breeds confidence in the players in front of him.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Rich99 on April 07, 2012, 09:46:06 PM

All depends who comes in for him and where he prefers to go I suppose.

I think our biggest savior may well be that there aren't too many Premiership sides looking for a new keeper right now.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Norfolk Baggie on April 07, 2012, 09:50:45 PM
Best keeper in England bar Joe Hart.  Fantastic today. Really great the rapport he has with the fans as well.  WE NEED TO SIGN HIM !!!!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Rich99 on April 07, 2012, 10:43:46 PM
Yes, after a near season gone now, I think it fair now to say that he's an improvement.  :P ;)

Hindsight, what a wonderful thing.

Ribbing aside, I think he will be gone in the summer though sadly and if he does stay I'd be worried about the kind of money a club our size would be throwing at him.  In a way it's a bit of a double edged sword.

I'd love him to stay though, I think he's a quality keeper, but if he does stay it's going to come with a financial cost for sure.  On the whole he's played superbly well for us this season and that's bound to have caught the attention of some other clubs.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: RowleyBaggie2 on April 07, 2012, 10:51:46 PM
He's just got better and better as the seasons gone on. Our defence as a whole is umpteen times better than last season.

From what I see he seems happy here and wants to stay, hopefully blues stay down to seal the deal but even if they do come up any money that goes into that club seems to go in one door and out the (china bound) other.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: GrGr on April 07, 2012, 10:54:26 PM
Yes, after a near season gone now, I think it fair now to say that he's an improvement.  :P ;)

Hindsight, what a wonderful thing.

Ribbing aside, I think he will be gone in the summer though sadly and if he does stay I'd be worried about the kind of money a club our size would be throwing at him.  In a way it's a bit of a double edged sword.

I'd love him to stay though, I think he's a quality keeper, but if he does stay it's going to come with a financial cost for sure.  On the whole he's played superbly well for us this season and that's bound to have caught the attention of some other clubs.

Foster is just now hitting his prime and he has had an excellent season with us. If we can secure him for a reasonable price, ie where we don't unbalance our budget for one single player, then we would be fools not to. But we will be lucky if we can sign him, as I've said before teams like Tottenham would be fools not to make a serious pitch for him.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Rich99 on April 07, 2012, 11:03:07 PM
Foster is just now hitting his prime and he has had an excellent season with us. If we can secure him for a reasonable price, ie where we don't unbalance our budget for one single player, then we would be fools not to. But we will be lucky if we can sign him, as I've said before teams like Tottenham would be fools not to make a serious pitch for him.

Oh, he's quality for sure and dare I say it, one of the best keepers in the league right now.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: RowleyBaggie2 on April 07, 2012, 11:04:32 PM
I'm keeping a clear mind as its not in our hands, we can only do our best.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: rubyruby on April 07, 2012, 11:48:44 PM
key factor in this one could be location since foster has already said he and his family are settled in this area. as is usual her indoors will likely have the final say  :)
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: alex1 on April 08, 2012, 01:43:10 AM
This is a no brainer. Foster is a top keeper. We will not find a better one. Today, it was not just the double saves in the second half. He looks so comfortable handling the ball and makes quite difficult shots look quite routine saves.  He also seems to be a good communicator with his defenders, which people will remember has not always been the case with other keepers. What is more, Foster shows a helluva lot of team spirit on the pitch.

As I've said on here before, we may need to do a part exchange with Blues, and I'd be happy to see one of our better players used, in order to secure a deal.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Aixelsyd on April 08, 2012, 01:55:31 AM
Be interested to know what Blues fans would accept wherever their club ends up. Would they be happy to keep Myhill and 2/3 million from us for Foster?


I don't care what their Fans think....... would rather know what their management think!!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Rich99 on April 08, 2012, 03:20:23 AM
Blues paid 4 rising to 6 million for him and I'd say he's perhaps more established as a keeper now.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: JohnnyStampa on April 08, 2012, 07:07:28 AM
I believe he would be our biggest signing of the summer if we make it happen
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: WSBaggie on April 08, 2012, 12:07:52 PM
Blues paid 4 rising to 6 million for him and I'd say he's perhaps more established as a keeper now.

They paid 7 for Zigic too... If they go up it will be well over 6 mil for him, if they stay down we could get him for 3-4 I reckon.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: gerry m on April 08, 2012, 12:16:35 PM
Best keeper in England bar Joe Hart.  Fantastic today. Really great the rapport he has with the fans as well.  WE NEED TO SIGN HIM !!!!

spot on mate :D
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: TROCAL on April 08, 2012, 12:29:24 PM
I cant believe,that Mr Peace hasnt got a deal in place ;)
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Mooncat on April 08, 2012, 01:04:11 PM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: JtheMull on April 09, 2012, 07:08:37 AM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: A5HB on April 09, 2012, 09:31:56 AM
Could Foster possibly play for them in the play-offs? They take place after the Premiership season ends, which means he'll return to Blues in time for them.
No I don't think he can because we loaned him until the end of the season he is registered to us for a whole year! I remember last year when Wood, Mattock and Dawson returned from their loans before our season finished but we couldn't play them because of this. The same will apply this year to Thorne (injured anyway), Allan, Jara, Mattock etc.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Do I not like Wolves on April 09, 2012, 11:26:44 AM
Don't forget he has only 12 months left on his Blues contract. He will have to leave or sign a new deal and even if Blues go up I think they will be limited in what they can pay.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Mike on April 09, 2012, 11:54:01 AM
Luckily for us, Blues have an exceptional young goalkeeper and one of the best goalkeeping coaches in the game. 
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Frankowba11 on April 10, 2012, 02:30:26 PM
I dont think anyone can say that Ben Foster hasn't been the signing of the season, With his faultless displays and his consitantly good performances week in week out, which we havn't had scince houlty i think the last away game at bolton should be all about him in the theme game. I was thinking everybody could wear goalkeeper gloves or we could all wear green which is the albion gk top ( permitting we wear it on that day) I think this could really swing it for us to keep him on a permenant deal. What do you all think?
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Hull Baggie on April 10, 2012, 02:48:42 PM
No need for this IMHO.....Foster knows we appreciate him and that we want him at this club.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: boinging_along on April 13, 2012, 07:27:28 PM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: saml30 on April 15, 2012, 12:05:28 PM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: OldburyWBA on April 20, 2012, 12:35:24 PM
(http://www.eplindex.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/England-GK-comparison.png)

England GK comparison Englands Best Starting XI | Part 1: Defence | Opta Stats Analysis

The goalkeepers chosen for this comparison are: Joe Hart, Ben Foster, Paul Robinson and John Ruddy due to the fact that these are the only English goalkeepers that start for their respective Premier League teams.

The first two statistics that were compared was how many goals the goalkeepers had conceded this season and how many goals per game they had conceded. As you can see from the table Hart came out on top in both these statistics by conceding 20 less goals this season than his nearest rival Foster and conceding 0.59 less goals per game than the West Brom goalkeeper.

Joe Hart also has the joint best penalty save ratio with Paul Robinson as both goalkeepers have saved 33.33% of the penalties that they have faced this season. This statistic will give England fans a bit of comfort knowing that Hart has saved 1 in 3 of the penalties he has faced this season, especially when it comes to the knockout stages of the competition.

The only area where Foster performs better than the other goalkeepers is coming out for crosses. Foster has caught the ball 53 times from crosses this season which is 7 more times than Ruddy, 18 more times than Hart and 22 more times than Robinson. He has also only missed 1 cross this season which is marginally better than Robinson and Ruddy who have missed 2 crosses and slightly better than Hart who has missed 3 crosses this season.

Therefore, due to fact that Joe Hart comes out 1 point better off then Ben Foster in the comparison and the fact that Hart has kept more clean sheets, conceded less goals and saved more penalties than any of his rivals he is the obvious choice for the number one spot.

Goalkeeper Choice: Joe Hart


Not a bad record is it when you consider the defence a club like Man City can afford and then compare ours who cost a lot less and on much less money.

Only 4 English keepers starting in the Prem this season.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: johnny Cash on April 20, 2012, 12:40:39 PM
So basically Hart wins because he plays for Man City.

If someone scores a penalty past Hart this weekend then Foster suddenly has more points.

Hart is probably the best english keeper, but we all know what they say about stats. 
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Quakes Fan on April 20, 2012, 02:37:50 PM
So basically Hart wins because he plays for Man City.

If someone scores a penalty past Hart this weekend then Foster suddenly has more points.

Hart is probably the best english keeper, but we all know what they say about stats. 

Exactly. But stats are just numbers; it's the unjustified conclusions being drawn that mislead.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: AlbionLegend on April 20, 2012, 04:14:31 PM
Very interesting especially as Hart has a much better defence playing in front of him. Shows how important it is to keep foster.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: VVVAlbion on April 20, 2012, 05:01:03 PM
It doesn't show how many saves to shots and therefore is pretty worthless as a comparison of the position.

As pointed out earlier, Hart's defense doesn't generally consist of three free transfers and a "cheap" Swede.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Baggies on April 20, 2012, 09:42:32 PM
It makes you wonder if Foster would do a good job in goal for Manchester City. It's a shame that  he has retired from international football as he is clearly the second best English goal keeper around today and if Hart was to be injured he would be a brillaint replacement.

I just hope he is still here next season.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: geoff on April 21, 2012, 07:41:34 AM
It makes you wonder if Foster would do a good job in goal for Manchester City. It's a shame that  he has retired from international football as he is clearly the second best English goal keeper around today and if Hart was to be injured he would be a brillaint replacement.

I just hope he is still here next season.

There's retired & there's retired  ;) Just think he did what was best for him at the time by keeping clear of the England camp & the presser that go's with it,if asked again it wouldn't surprise me if he said yes.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: AlbionBest on April 28, 2012, 10:15:27 PM
Well, No.2 after Roy I suspose !   BUT

BEN FOSTER
"sign him up" as the song goes
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Hunnington Baggie on April 28, 2012, 10:23:17 PM
Believe me we've tried forcing the issue, showing interest in others to drive price down, using foster to say he wants to remain in the area to reduce the number of offers, used Myhill to provoke a trade as he wants to go there.

We can do nothing till Birmingham are ready, till then he's off the market sadly
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: The Joust on April 29, 2012, 11:52:14 AM
He has won us a lot of points this season. A lot imo. If you've got a good keeper you've got half a chance in this league and Ben Foster is a quality keeper. We wouldn't be sitting where we are this year without him
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: 87Baggie on April 29, 2012, 12:15:23 PM
The thing I like about Foster is that hes a quick thinker and doesnt hesitate to take the initiative when he sees danger. There have been so many occasions where we've been in trouble and where a less aggressive, less headstrong keeper would have had us concede.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: johnthebaggie on April 29, 2012, 02:40:03 PM
It's going to be a drawn out affair I think.

Blues transfer embargo has been extended to end of July as well. Does this mean they can't sell players as well as buy them?
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Hunnington Baggie on April 29, 2012, 03:01:13 PM
no, they can sell. But does that mean we can't do part exchange? Foster for Myhill and a few million?
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: JBullyWBA on April 29, 2012, 05:10:44 PM
Blues transfer embargo only means that they can't buy, which may impact on a Myhill plus cash offer, but it all depends on if Blues get promoted or not. SO COME ON BLACKPOOL!!!
He's won us plenty of points this season, we'd be sitting closer to villa if we didn't have Foster.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: wardy65 on April 29, 2012, 07:54:28 PM
Knowing Blues they'll want about 8 million for him & the Baggies won't pay that. Can only be done by using the likes of Wood, Myhill & perhaps Shorey in part ex  :(
Hope we can keep him but i'm prepared for the worst. On the flip-side, the Albion are an attractive proposition now & if we do need to replace him, i'm sure Dan Ashworth's already ringed a few names.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: rubyruby on April 29, 2012, 11:18:11 PM
I notice today that blues have failed for the fourth time to file the company accounts on time. One suspects a huge financial mess is lurking in the background. I sense this might work in our favour on both the player and manager front.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: WBA 59 on April 30, 2012, 07:29:41 AM
I would like to think we could get him for 4/6 million but IMO we should go and get him. His form this year is outstanding
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: tuamigos on April 30, 2012, 07:57:23 AM
Blues have other problems.
Because they have not filed tax returns they have a transfer embargo now until July.
I assuming the embargo will be on ins and outs, so any potential deals done with Blues will be almost at the start of the season.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: lippybaggie on April 30, 2012, 10:48:18 AM
Benny's made this site's team of the week - wasn't that happy with given getting the gig on soccernet... anyways check it out: www.footballfortheday.com (http://www.footballfortheday.com)

#teamwoy
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: WBAinDEVON on April 30, 2012, 10:58:51 AM
Not a good idea to be changing theme at this stage when some have already purchased whatever they are going in but if you want to honour Foster you honour him with my grace :)
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: filipinobaggie on April 30, 2012, 12:48:59 PM
I am (along with a number of Albion fans) gutted that Hodgson is filling the missing piece in his career jigsaw by taking the England manager's post.

Ben Foster opted out and has 'retired' from international duty. Given the goalkeeping situation do you think Roy will be able to coax him back into the set-up given that they have worked together for the last season? God forbid anything happens to Harte and in the event it does Foster is the 2nd best English keeper (I feel) and would be great for the squad.

Also who do you reckon will stay now Hodgson is gone? Genuinely believe Olsson will go and Foster if we do not make the 'right' appointment.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: FallOutBoy on April 30, 2012, 12:52:04 PM
Losing Hodgson will probably hurt our chances of keeping Foster / Olsson, but we will have to wait and see.

I think if anybody can lure Foster back to international football, its probably Hodgson.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: bigbadjohn on April 30, 2012, 01:15:23 PM
Priory No 3 If we dont sign Foster Go Get Paul Robinson Fast !!!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Scion on April 30, 2012, 02:00:07 PM
I wouldn't bet against Hodgson making Foster his No.1, either.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Moggas barmy army on April 30, 2012, 02:24:06 PM
I don't think Ben will come out of retirement, he stated he didn't want to sit on the bench and would rather focus on his club career. Joe Hart should rightfully so still be England's number 1 he's younger and is a better keeper than Foster (no offence to Ben as I think he's one of the best but Hart is the best keeper in the prem) so i don't think anything has changed, Foster would still be sitting on the bench under Roy.

I don't think Roy leaving changes much in regards to us. Blues could still be in the championship and even if they do come up he's got 1 year remaining on his contract and with their financial situation may not be able to match our offer to him. He also has more security at Albion now we have been here for 3 years instead of playing for a newly promoted team with a very real chance of relegation.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: DudleyBaggieFan on April 30, 2012, 04:03:58 PM
I think we will keep foster, only if hughton is our managerial replacement. His former boss who he liked to work under, i think him and LR will have a chat with CH if he gets offered the job, to say how good our club is etc.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: AlbionBest on April 30, 2012, 04:36:03 PM
I wouldn't bet against Hodgson making Foster his No.1, either.

I don't giving a t8ss about England as long as we get him signed up.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: JBullyWBA on April 30, 2012, 06:36:35 PM
Blues have other problems.
Because they have not filed tax returns they have a transfer embargo now until July.
I assuming the embargo will be on ins and outs, so any potential deals done with Blues will be almost at the start of the season.

Blues can still sell, just not buy. It only means we can't do a cash+ players offer. If they stay down Blues will probably be in serious financial trouble and have to sell. My worry is that a bigger team like Spurs will come in for him as Blues will probably sell to the highest bidder. Lets just hope that there was some truth in rumours that he is settled in the midlands.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: WBASPE77 on April 30, 2012, 07:43:25 PM
Most thing im bothered about, is getting him signed up for next season.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Sessegod on May 01, 2012, 09:18:32 PM
Roy now gone unfortunately, but if we lost Foster would that be a bigger blow to the club?
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: TheJacko2000 on May 01, 2012, 11:33:50 PM
Roy now gone unfortunately, but if we lost Foster would that be a bigger blow to the club?
No. He's good but he's not the be all and end all. Robinson from Blackburn a superb alternative.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Dan on May 02, 2012, 12:28:46 AM
Robinson has been rubbish this season, a shadow of his former self.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Rich99 on May 02, 2012, 11:59:14 AM
"Foster: Roy a better coach than Sir Alex

"Mr Alex Ferguson is obviously the whole caboodle with man-management and things like that. But as far as coaches go, Roy is definitely the best I have worked under. He is fantastic," Foster told the Mirror. "He has a few of the fans and stuff to win over but I am sure he will get results to start with and that will be it, he will be flying.

"I have read a few interviews saying he is a bit of a yes-man and things like that. It is definitely not true. Those people have obviously never worked with Roy Hodgson before. He is a lovely guy and knows his stuff.

"But behind closed doors he is a tough character. He won't take any rubbish from anyone, and rightly so. You should respect your manager.

"This is the first time I have got to work with him. But the time I have been with him, he knows football in and out. He is absolutely meticulous in his preparations, and goes into the fine details of the team we are going to be playing against.

"He lives and breathes football. It is everything to Roy Hodgson."

"A lot of people are hanging on to the Liverpool thing as well and bringing that up. If you look at his record and compare it to Kenny Dalglish it is pretty similar," he said. "It didn't go too well for Roy but I don't think you can keep hanging on to that. I can only go from what I have seen this season.

"He has been absolutely fantastic and a pleasure to work with."

......

"I stick by my decision. I am happy with the decision I made. Rob Green has had a good season in the Championship and John Ruddy is up and coming and done well.

"It would be very unfair on people like that if I just changed my decision and got straight back in."

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/1060791/ben-foster:-roy-hodgson-a-better-coach-than-sir-alex-ferguson?cc=5739#
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: paulosull on May 06, 2012, 06:41:04 PM
has come on big time under roy be soon pushing harte for england s no1
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on May 06, 2012, 06:42:16 PM
has come on big time under roy be soon pushing harte for england s no1

He won't, because Foster retired from international football a while ago.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: jonny on May 09, 2012, 08:35:42 PM
Looking promising now  ;)
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: smethwickw on May 09, 2012, 08:37:43 PM
Looking promising now  ;)

The same could apply to Hughton though which doesn't excite me personally.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: jonny on May 09, 2012, 08:54:17 PM
The same could apply to Hughton though which doesn't excite me personally.

Agreed, he has done extremely well to get an average squad this far after 62 games
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: KnaveofAlbion on May 09, 2012, 09:15:22 PM
Looking promising now  ;)

Looking even better now. As long as West Ham don't win the final this'll be possibly my fav season ever!

I may have cursed us!?! I take it back..... I take it back!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: jonny on May 09, 2012, 09:44:39 PM
Now Blues have stopped down, surely the price will lower?

Maybe JP had this in mind?!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Wbahunty on May 09, 2012, 09:53:05 PM
He won't, because Foster retired from international football a while ago.

He didnt retire, he pulled him out of the frame for a while!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: phbaggies on May 09, 2012, 09:56:19 PM
Now Blues have stopped down, surely the price will lower?

Maybe JP had this in mind?!
May be a queue to sign him cheaply too, hopefully we have spoken to him already about staying here if blues stay down, fingers crossed!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: royhan on May 09, 2012, 10:03:13 PM
Get that chequebook out now JP and snap up Foster immediately.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Mooncat on May 09, 2012, 10:13:25 PM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: tuamigos on May 09, 2012, 10:17:48 PM
Cant help thinking that we still have a fair bit of work to do on this one
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: KnaveofAlbion on May 09, 2012, 10:27:03 PM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Hunnington Baggie on May 09, 2012, 10:28:16 PM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: westbrom4ever on May 09, 2012, 10:41:18 PM
Depends on the manager and the budget.

I can't see us blowing most of our budget on him, especially if the new manager wants to strengthen other areas of the team as well.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: chipperclark on May 10, 2012, 07:47:06 AM
 :( The Spuds are after a keeper....have put feelers out for Rob Green,but he is going to Europe.
They could offer massive money for Foster.
Gooners also looking!!!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: smethwickw on May 10, 2012, 09:14:18 AM
Unless a deal is already in place then I can't see this happening for a few weeks if at all.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: phbaggies on May 10, 2012, 09:22:24 AM
:( The Spuds are after a keeper....have put feelers out for Rob Green,but he is going to Europe.
They could offer massive money for Foster.
Gooners also looking!!!
Only thing in our favour there is he left Man Utd and England set up because he didnt want to be on the bench, at Arsenal he would be no.2 behind 'Chesney' and at Spurs for a year at least behind Friedel, out of the 2 it would be Spurs that would worry me the most though due to Friedels age.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: mulliganstired on May 10, 2012, 09:36:19 AM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Dexy on May 10, 2012, 11:22:20 AM
Only thing in our favour there is he left Man Utd and England set up because he didnt want to be on the bench, at Arsenal he would be no.2 behind 'Chesney' and at Spurs for a year at least behind Friedel, out of the 2 it would be Spurs that would worry me the most though due to Friedels age.
If they stay up QPR worry me regarding Foster,they wont keep Kenny with all due respect.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: ian on May 10, 2012, 11:56:43 AM
Either we get foster or we go for robinson both of them would be good for us
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: BobTaylor on May 10, 2012, 12:05:31 PM
Foster wants to stay in the midlands and is happy with us it seems, the only issue would be blues asking price.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: BaggieJames114 on May 10, 2012, 12:09:03 PM
With his contract up at Blues next summer, and their financial uncertainty. I dont think this will be as massive a problem as people suggest. Give them some money and Myhill and have it done with ;)
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: GrGr on May 10, 2012, 12:47:15 PM
With his contract up at Blues next summer, and their financial uncertainty. I dont think this will be as massive a problem as people suggest. Give them some money and Myhill and have it done with ;)

Is that so with his contract? Then we just loan him for another season and get him for free next summer.  ;D
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: BaggieJames114 on May 10, 2012, 01:02:25 PM
Well i checked on the Blues website on the profiles. He signed a 3 year deal. Spent one with Blues, one with us. So next season should be his final year unless something else has happened since then
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: geoff on May 10, 2012, 03:06:21 PM
Would hope that we made contact with them this morning  ;) about signing Ben & offered them a deal. The sooner this deal is done the better im sure we will all feel.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: jonny on May 10, 2012, 03:27:23 PM
I think its been well documented he wants to stay in the Midlands.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: MulumbuPower! on May 10, 2012, 10:47:16 PM
Mirror Football is reporting that this summer Spurs are going to bid for foster unopposed as we cant afford him.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: alex1 on May 10, 2012, 11:16:59 PM
Mirror Football is reporting that this summer Spurs are going to bid for foster unopposed as we cant afford him.

All the more reason to get this sorted quickly!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: royhan on May 11, 2012, 05:38:23 AM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: tuamigos on May 11, 2012, 06:33:16 AM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: WBAinDEVON on May 11, 2012, 08:27:44 AM
Off to Spuds then?
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Hunnington Baggie on May 11, 2012, 08:30:24 AM
don't know, but that'll be two times in a row they've stolen a keeper we wanted to buy. we were looking at Freidel last season, and when he went we could only loan foster with the time we had
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: gerry m on May 11, 2012, 08:35:53 AM
who says we can afford him?
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Do I not like Wolves on May 11, 2012, 09:04:07 AM
It is The Mirror!!!!!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Hunnington Baggie on May 11, 2012, 10:04:09 AM
who says we can afford him?
haven;t we been paying his wages this season? pretty sure we have. anyway we wouldn't have tried to force anything with brum if we couldn't pay
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: smethwickw on May 11, 2012, 10:11:28 AM
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Post by: saml30 on May 12, 2012, 01:41:16 PM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: MICKYMEL on May 13, 2012, 04:01:33 PM
Sign him!!  Sign him now!!!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Floydy on May 13, 2012, 06:01:56 PM
Is anybody reading anything into the injury today?

Today has underlined at the most timely manner possible that a good keeper is imperative in the Premier League.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Kicking Pigeons on May 13, 2012, 06:04:36 PM
Please stay Foster, don't leave us alone with Fulop and Myhill :'(.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: westbrom4ever on May 13, 2012, 06:20:52 PM
Too much doom and gloom in here, if he doesn't sign there are plenty of cheaper alternatives just as good.

Robinson and Jussi for example.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: alex1 on May 13, 2012, 07:46:16 PM
Too much doom and gloom in here, if he doesn't sign there are plenty of cheaper alternatives just as good.

Robinson and Jussi for example.

Why settle for alternatives when we have one of the best keepers in the country within touching distance? Not only is Foster absolutely a top keeper, he is the right age and he is from the Midlands and wants to stay in the Midlands. He can be our keeper for years to come.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Kicking Pigeons on May 13, 2012, 07:49:35 PM
Too much doom and gloom in here, if he doesn't sign there are plenty of cheaper alternatives just as good.

Robinson and Jussi for example.
Jussi's not even the best keeper at Bolton any more.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Baggies on May 13, 2012, 07:51:23 PM
The reception he got at the end of the game should leave him in no doubt of the high esteem the fans hold him in.

It has been announced that Foster is staying home this summer and will not be going to the Euro's so hopefully that should make it easier to sign him.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: smethwickw on May 13, 2012, 07:57:48 PM
Why settle for alternatives when we have one of the best keepers in the country within touching distance? Not only is Foster absolutely a top keeper, he is the right age and he is from the Midlands and wants to stay in the Midlands. He can be our keeper for years to come.

He may prefer to stay in the midlands but his head will be turned by money or a bigger club. I remember Vaughan wanting to stay near Crewe yet signed for Sunderland.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: kris_boing on May 13, 2012, 08:00:32 PM
I really hope we sign him permanently.  We'd have won that game today with him between the sticks.
 
If we cant get him then my 2nd choice would be Robinson but if I was Peace/Ashworth I'd pull out all the stops to try and get who I think is one of the top 3 'keepers in the Premier League.
 
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: wbako on May 13, 2012, 08:05:38 PM
Too much doom and gloom in here, if he doesn't sign there are plenty of cheaper alternatives just as good.

Robinson and Jussi for example.

Foster is on another level to both those you have named.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Dan on May 13, 2012, 08:19:49 PM
Robinson's had a poor season really, looks really on the way down. Likewise Jaaskelainan has lost his place at Bolton and had been looking quiet dodgy prior to that, certainly no replacement for Foster.

The danger will be QPR I think who now they're up will probably want to replace Kenny and have funds to back them up. I imagine Spurs may well be in the market for a keeper as well.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Baggies on May 13, 2012, 08:26:21 PM
People naming Robinson are those who remember him 2 or 3 years ago. He is going backwards now. Foster is much better than he is.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: wba1993dave on May 13, 2012, 08:34:08 PM
Spurs are our main threat. QPR would be a downwards move for him ok they may offer more money but would he want to move his family again to London? I dont think so. But if Spurs came if the lure of Champions League football could lure him there. If i was JP i would put a offer of 5 million on the table on Monday. Lets gets him signed quickly!!!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Baggie79 on May 13, 2012, 09:52:29 PM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Dan on May 13, 2012, 10:29:15 PM
Depending on who goes though I don't think we need to sign that many outfield players, a pacey/tricky winger to compete with Thomas is the only need I would say. Otherwise the squad has proven itself to be strong throughout this season. Defence if we can manage to keep Olsson is pretty fine, midfield with Thorne and Allan to compete next season should be competitive, and Odemwingie/Long/Fortune up front have proven themselves to be an effective bunch over the season so I wouldn't say there's a pressing need there either.

Surely the whole point of building as we have been is we don't need big spending summers or mass overhauls any more. Just slight tweaks. And away from the transfer market we'd do well to look to use the loan market well this season which we rarely seem to do in recent years - Swansea got Siggurdson, Norwich had Naughton doing well all season, Wolves had Frimpong till he unluckily got injured. All of these were players we could have got and missed out on.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: paulosull on May 13, 2012, 10:29:49 PM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: kris_boing on May 13, 2012, 10:57:22 PM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: JBullyWBA on May 13, 2012, 11:45:19 PM
Realistically, how much do you think we will have to pay for him?
Considering he is in the last year of his contract at small heath and is attracting interest from Tottenham and QPR.
My gut says Blues will demand double figures and Tottenham will nick him from us especially if Chelsea lose the Champions League final.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Kicking Pigeons on May 13, 2012, 11:55:18 PM
Realistically, how much do you think we will have to pay for him?
Considering he is in the last year of his contract at small heath and is attracting interest from Tottenham and QPR.
My gut says Blues will demand double figures and Tottenham will nick him from us especially if Chelsea lose the Champions League final.
Is there any confirmed interest in him from QPR and Tottenham? From what I can tell people have just hypothesised that QPR will be interested because they'll have plenty of money to spend and Tottenham will be interest because Friedel is 40. I can't recall seeing anything in the press.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: KingKoren on May 13, 2012, 11:58:07 PM
Is there any confirmed interest in him from QPR and Tottenham? From what I can tell people have just hypothesised that QPR will be interested because they'll have plenty of money to spend and Tottenham will be interest because Friedel is 40. I can't recall seeing anything in the press.

I heard Tottenham have bid 7million for Foster. There are obviously a lot of rumours flying about but I hope we have quality alternatives lined up - I'm not confident we will get him.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: BB74 on May 14, 2012, 12:00:18 AM
I heard Tottenham have bid 7million for Foster. There are obviously a lot of rumours flying about but I hope we have quality alternatives lined up - I'm not confident we will get him.

A tweet from Foster today kind of implied he won't be coming back. He thanked the fans and said he has great memories.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Dan on May 14, 2012, 12:06:02 AM
Quote
Thanks for everything this season baggies fans, love you all so much, been a great year with great memories. Interesting summer coming up!

Think you're reading too much into it tbh. He'll be off I imagine but that tweet gives little indication of it not being us.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: KingKoren on May 14, 2012, 12:09:58 AM
A tweet from Foster today kind of implied he won't be coming back. He thanked the fans and said he has great memories.

Ben Foster ? @BenFoster

Thanks for everything this season baggies fans, love you all so much, been a great year with great memories. Interesting summer coming up!

I assume you mean that one. Don't think it really indicates anything. I don't have any inside knowledge but I don't think he will sign for us. There will be a lot of rumours fly about. We all hope he will stay but there is nothing we can do about it. We knew he may not necessarily be our keeper next season so I'm sure we have alternatives waiting in the wings.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Kicking Pigeons on May 14, 2012, 12:17:10 AM
A tweet from Foster today kind of implied he won't be coming back. He thanked the fans and said he has great memories.
I don't think he'll be coming back either, my money's on him going to Tottenham (I think Friedel was a stopgap solution for them, I don't think a team competing at the top of the league will want to rely on a 40 year old keeper for another season, Tottenham also tend to buy good solid British players), but I can't see anything in that Tweet to be honest. It just looks like your generic 'thanks fans! It's been a great season' message to me, nothing more, nothing less, I think Foster at the moment knows as much as everyone else.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: geoff on May 14, 2012, 12:25:47 AM
Mid way through the season I said that we would have a fight on our hands to sign Ben as other higher placed clubs would try to buy him from blues ahead of we and it looks like my worst fears could coming true.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: tuamigos on May 14, 2012, 06:41:46 AM
The lads stuck to his guns about England by the looks of it

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/england/9263638/England-manager-Roy-Hodgson-suffers-double-blow-as-Ben-Foster-rejects-his-overtures-and-Scott-Parker-is-doubt.html
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: chipperclark on May 14, 2012, 07:31:15 AM
 ;D Whatever it takes after that Fulop horror show yesterday....need 2 strong keepers...Daniels should be given the chance as #2 Keeper.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: sing on our own on May 14, 2012, 01:42:03 PM
Daniels should have started yesterday and i said that before Fulop chucked 3 in,we have spent a lot of time and money on him and he's never played or never will by the look of things,as for Foster if he only has 12 months left at Blues hes only worth 4 million regardless of how good he is,but he is priceless to us
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: leeiswba on May 14, 2012, 01:57:58 PM
Cant defend Fulop yesterday was poor, but unfair to judge after one game. Saw him play against everton in the Carling Cup and he was very very good.

But pay whatever it takes to get Foster!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: JBullyWBA on May 15, 2012, 02:29:28 PM
I don't think people should shun Fulop just based on the Arsenal performance, he hasn't played in ages and his confidence was shot after the first goal.
I still think he should be given a chance but Foster is priceless.
Personally I'd pay double figures for him. He gets us at least 15 points a season.
With a few Bosman transfers I think we could get another 12-10th placed finish.
However, if that's not possible I'd think about Gordon from Sunderland, I think he's leaving on a Bosman this summer unless he's offered another contract.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: zippyandbungle on May 15, 2012, 11:07:43 PM
Sorry to ruin the flow of negativity on here but unfortunately .......mr Ben Foster appears to be one of the nicer individuals in football who rates family time and seems content to live where HE wants not where some galactico team will tell him?
Add that to the facts that we want him, he likes us, blues cant buy so would like player exchange and.......we are actually quite good .
Sorry I think we will sign him.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: COWBACK on May 17, 2012, 02:06:13 PM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: WoysWunderful on May 17, 2012, 11:04:05 PM
I voted 4-5 but thats mainly his wages on a 3 year deal (doubt we will get longer). Nobody will pay 5 mil for a player out of contract in 12 months.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: geoff on May 18, 2012, 08:41:49 AM
some times in life you pay over the odds for some think but looking back you would do it again i think BF could turn out to be like that for the Albion.     
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: graka on May 18, 2012, 11:22:49 AM
if you look at fosters age this could fill the position for the next 10 years. so for me if we have to go the extra mile or million then do it. lets start acting like a top ten club if thats what we want to stay.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Savvas78 on May 18, 2012, 11:27:05 AM
some times in life you pay over the odds for some think but looking back you would do it again i think BF could turn out to be like that for the Albion.   

Another couple of seasons with performances like that, and we'll make a handsome profit on the transfer fee should a "big club" come knocking.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: alex1 on May 20, 2012, 10:05:22 PM
I hope the delay waiting for a new manager doesn't prejudice Albion's chance of securing Foster. We could find that in the interim other clubs move quicker and get a deal sorted out. If we are waiting for a new manager to be in place, who may not be fully aware of what Foster achieved last season, and maybe wants to wait to see the full squad before drawing up a list, we could be nearly into July. I think DA should take a lead here and get a deal done. There must be little or no risk in securing a keeper of top quality, as Foster is. Most new managers have to work with whoever is already on the club's books anyway.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: billvis on May 22, 2012, 12:06:03 PM
Sorry to ruin the flow of negativity on here but unfortunately .......mr Ben Foster appears to be one of the nicer individuals in football who rates family time and seems content to live where HE wants not where some galactico team will tell him?
Add that to the facts that we want him, he likes us, blues cant buy so would like player exchange and.......we are actually quite good .
Sorry I think we will sign him.

Although it goes against my naturally cynical nature when it comes to football, I agree with you.
There was all that talk about him staying in the midlands when we signed him on loan and he does come across as a principled bloke who loves the club.
Just hope we're both right.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Smooth Lad on May 24, 2012, 10:02:14 AM
Reid tweeted him last night saying:

STEVEN REID ?@stevenreid12
"@BenFoster looks horrible that Fossy... would rather be in Birmingham like me!! see you July 4th pal haha"

Meaning, persumably, when they go back to training for pre-season.

Then Foster tweeted him back saying:

Ben Foster ?@BenFoster
"@stevenreid12 that's going to start all sorts of rumours flying!!!!!!!!!"

See it how you want...
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: phbaggies on May 24, 2012, 10:32:16 AM
Thats Reidy wanting the same result as every other Albion player and fan and probably Foster too!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: DudleyBaggieFan on May 29, 2012, 06:42:18 PM
@BenFoster: Don't know why people assume players should know who the new manager would be, #chairmansdecision

Am I reading to much into this, or does this sound like he is going to be ours?
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: JBullyWBA on May 29, 2012, 07:01:43 PM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: zippyandbungle on May 29, 2012, 10:40:52 PM
If ....and it's a big IF , blouse where to end up like Rangers due to their financial mismanagement , is there a chance that we could get him for nowt ?
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on May 29, 2012, 10:45:29 PM
If ....and it's a big IF , blouse where to end up like Rangers due to their financial mismanagement , is there a chance that we could get him for nowt ?

What do you mean 'end up like Rangers'? Any players Rangers have sold have generally gone for large fees. Take Jelavic for example. The players who weren't apart of the first team were asked to leave. If Blues got into that position they would see Foster as there ideal chance to bring in some money and will try to get as large a fee as they possibly can.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: royhan on May 31, 2012, 11:40:21 PM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: crazedwbafan18 on May 31, 2012, 11:41:56 PM
QPR sniffing around foster. GO AWAY!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Aixelsyd on June 01, 2012, 02:18:31 AM
Very scatter gun approach by QPR  :P


or is it just the media again linking every player they can think of.


Every Report you see about QPR they name so many players it impossible for me to keep up...
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: tuamigos on June 01, 2012, 06:23:46 AM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: dont ask me to choose luv on June 01, 2012, 07:23:48 AM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Barrington on June 01, 2012, 07:27:32 AM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Aixelsyd on June 01, 2012, 09:21:02 AM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: graka on June 01, 2012, 10:10:18 AM
it does show how important we get the new head coach in asap to get this sorted one way or another wether its true or not.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: KnaveofAlbion on June 01, 2012, 04:57:49 PM
Ben's on his Hols at the mo and he's hardly going to move to whoever makes the first bid for the sake of them being first.

We don't need a head coach to buy Ben, JP and co know what they're doing.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: baggyman68 on June 01, 2012, 06:50:13 PM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Hong Kong Phooey on June 01, 2012, 10:43:42 PM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: darby009 on June 02, 2012, 08:07:23 AM
you all keep forgetting one important thing........ ben does not want to move from the area, he does not want to up root his family.... do not underestimate how important this is.  it is one of the reasons that he chose to go on a family holiday rather than go to the euros and not be guaranteed pitch time... his family means every thing to him. 

this all narrows down who he will sign for massively
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: rubyruby on June 02, 2012, 08:11:53 AM
you all keep forgetting one important thing........ ben does not want to move from the area, he does not want to up root his family.... do not underestimate how important this is.  it is one of the reasons that he chose to go on a family holiday rather than go to the euros and not be guaranteed pitch time... his family means every thing to him. 

this all narrows down who he will sign for massively

Im not totally sure but I think I read somewhere he lives out Warwick Leamington way. Could travel down M40 no problem from there if the money was there. That might widen the possibilities a bit! North London and all that. If I was JP he would be the one player I would offer a longer contract to.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Londonbaggymike on June 02, 2012, 10:59:30 AM
Robert Green leaving West Ham- maybe for QPR or Spurs? He's turned down a double your money contract apparently so he won't be coming to us!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: monkey nuts on June 02, 2012, 01:50:39 PM
Ben lives in a small hamlet/village called Morton Bagott a short walk from Studley.

i'm not saying he will sign for us but no one should underestimate the pull of his family life and the area he lives in
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Londonbaggymike on June 03, 2012, 01:00:39 AM
Rumour has it we've contacted Green.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: tuamigos on June 03, 2012, 08:24:57 AM
Rumour has it we've contacted Green.

hope that's all its is.

Green = Carson
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: AlbionBest on June 03, 2012, 08:31:27 AM
hope that's all its is.

Green = Carson

Just about to post the same about Green being on a par with Carson !
Huge disappointment if we end up with him after raising the bar with Foster.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Galahad on June 03, 2012, 04:33:17 PM
hope that's all its is.

Green = Carson

Not forgetting we need to sign a "backup keeper" as well  ;)
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: smethwickw on June 03, 2012, 05:17:50 PM
Green is a better keeper than Carson imo. Carson hasn't even made the England squad as a back up. Apart from one mistake at the last WC I don't think Green has done much wrong.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: alex1 on June 03, 2012, 06:27:49 PM
It will be a major setback if a deal for Foster doesn't come off now. I don't buy all this stuff about people being on holiday. This situation has been staring everyone in the face for the last 10 months since the loan deal was negotiated. Once it was clear to everybody down to the tea lady that Foster's the perfect fit for the keeper's position, a clear strategy needs to have been set out. We should be in the driving seat.  It's not the same situation as going for a player who's never played for us, and neither we nor the player know if it would work out. Foster himself makes it pretty clear he'd like to stay here (but obviously couldn't embarass his employer by stating it). If we hold off much longer, we will lose out simple as. We know QPR and Tottenham are interested and they have financial clout. Blues will probably want to sell to whoever can offer most. All we have then, is Ben's wish to live in the Midlands.
message to the Albion board: please get the Foster situation sorted before it is too late.

Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: smosher34 on June 03, 2012, 07:16:18 PM
Not forgetting we need to sign a "backup keeper" as well  ;)

we have myhill dont forget any went on loan for the season
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: weareblueweare white on June 03, 2012, 08:22:56 PM
If we don`t sign Foster then I hope we go  for Jaaskelainen
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: OldburyWBA on June 03, 2012, 10:49:42 PM
If we don`t sign Foster then I hope we go  for Jaaskelainen

Looks like he could be West Ham bound
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: rubyruby on June 03, 2012, 11:02:11 PM
Looks like he could be West Ham bound

Personally Id like us to pull out all the stops and secure Foster on a long contract. Failing that I would like us to go for a younger keeper. Perhaps from a top european league if no domestic candidate
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: graka on June 04, 2012, 01:03:32 PM
please for once dont go down the cheap option with this. foster is by far the best goalie we could hope to attract. green is out of contract and looking for a lot more money than we pay. jussi is in the twilight of his career and gordon injury prone. the main point being ben is far better than all of these aswel so lets start acting like a top 10 team !!!!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: OldburyWBA on June 04, 2012, 01:25:26 PM
please for once dont go down the cheap option with this. foster is by far the best goalie we could hope to attract. green is out of contract and looking for a lot more money than we pay. jussi is in the twilight of his career and gordon injury prone. the main point being ben is far better than all of these aswel so lets start acting like a top 10 team !!!!

Seems to be 3 clubs linked with Green, us QPR and Malaga. Only one option really, Malaga they can offer Champions League football next season and are now a very wealthy club (even though they have problems paying wages on time and paying other clubs)

I'm hoping we are keeping Foster informed that we want him every day.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: MulumbuPower! on June 04, 2012, 01:40:40 PM
I'm more worried about the Foster situation than the management situation. I know he would like to stay but there are supposedly three wealthy(ish) London clubs sniffing about.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: B_H_Baggie on June 07, 2012, 01:59:26 PM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: tuamigos on June 07, 2012, 02:35:37 PM
not a lot we can do really is there?
I would imagine that Ashworth had a word with him before he went back to bloose. The bloose team he went back to is not the one he left so I doubt he feels at home there anyway.
I would think we're in pole position funds permitting.
The player himself will have a big say in where he ends up.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: AlbionLegend on June 07, 2012, 04:11:10 PM
Agree, If the fee is 5 million then surely we would be able to pay that (I would hope). That just leaves it down to Ben's personal preference.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: wba1993dave on June 07, 2012, 04:39:39 PM
I feel sick that a club like QPR is richer than us :-X Surely we must have 5 million to spend  :-\. I dont know why Ben would go there, Hughes is a arrogant so and so, Joey Barton thinks he's  should be playing for England and loves to brag about being on 60 k a week. And you have a chairman who asks fans on twitter who they to want sign  ???And your be playing in a tin pot stadium. We may not have a lot of money but atleast were not used like a toy. Hopefully Ben joins us :)
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: lewisant on June 07, 2012, 04:52:09 PM
now would be a good time to strie for him, when theyre managerless so DA go get our man!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Baggie Artist on June 07, 2012, 06:37:56 PM
I knew it'd be a bad thing if QPR stay up.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Sessegod on June 07, 2012, 07:33:33 PM
I knew it'd be a bad thing if QPR stay up.

if you go by bbcs latest gossip ston will be splashing cash too... good job we are a well run club
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: AlbionBest on June 07, 2012, 07:36:59 PM
Agree, If the fee is 5 million then surely we would be able to pay that (I would hope). That just leaves it down to Ben's personal preference.

Of course we have the cash - look how much the club gets each season allied to the profit/dividend/owner payments taken out of the Club.

Where we choose to spend it / invest in the team / speculate is an old argument that will always rage on and on under Peace........
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: KingKoren on June 07, 2012, 10:01:44 PM
Would Clarke of worked with Green at West Ham?

He is available on a free, unlike Foster, and he may want to spend his transfer kitty elsewhere.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: rubyruby on June 07, 2012, 10:06:06 PM
Would Clarke of worked with Green at West Ham?

He is available on a free, unlike Foster, and he may want to spend his transfer kitty elsewhere.

Thats a very good point but the keeper issue is the big one for us. Steve Clarke im ok with. If JP gives up on Foster I will be very frustrated. Behind Hart and Reina he is the best in the PL
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: smethwickw on June 07, 2012, 10:14:43 PM
I don't see how us not having a 'coach' in place delays a move for him TBH. After all Ashworth does all the dealing according to most and is responsible for all of our 'good' signings. I suspect we are 'monitoring' the situation.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: KingKoren on June 07, 2012, 10:15:06 PM
Thats a very good point but the keeper issue is the big one for us. Steve Clarke im ok with. If JP gives up on Foster I will be very frustrated. Behind Hart and Reina he is the best in the PL

I agree.

 I don't think Green is a bad keeper though. If you were in SC's position who would you go with?
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: rubyruby on June 07, 2012, 10:45:05 PM
I agree.

 I don't think Green is a bad keeper though. If you were in SC's position who would you go with?

Has to better the devil you know. Foster was our player of the season so its a no brainer for me and on a decent contract too!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: alex1 on June 08, 2012, 12:28:09 AM
Having missed out on the club's first managerial choice (not that I attach blame to JP/DA for that), the club could improve the mood of alot of supporters by ensuring that Ben Foster is secured. He must have won us 10-12 points last season, he's been voted Player of the Year, he's from the Midlands and I'm 99% sure he'd be happy to stay. This is of the utmost urgency as we know of at least 2 other  clubs with funds that would like him.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: bobcracker on June 08, 2012, 01:01:00 AM
I agree.

 I don't think Green is a bad keeper though. If you were in SC's position who would you go with?

In my opinion, Rob Green is not a Premier League number 1. I know i may seem like I've been spoilt by Foster but most teams in the league last season had a top class keeper they were really happy with (one of the reasons we could get Foster in the first place).
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Hunnington Baggie on June 08, 2012, 01:14:28 AM
Having missed out on the club's first managerial choice (not that I attach blame to JP/DA for that), the club could improve the mood of alot of supporters by ensuring that Ben Foster is secured. He must have won us 10-12 points last season, he's been voted Player of the Year, he's from the Midlands and I'm 99% sure he'd be happy to stay. This is of the utmost urgency as we know of at least 2 other  clubs with funds that would like him.

I thought Foster was from manchester!  ???
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: TheJacko2000 on June 08, 2012, 01:17:39 AM
I thought Foster was from manchester!  ???

Born in Leamington mate.

Yanited don't get all their kids from the Salford slums....


 ::)
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Avonbaggie on June 08, 2012, 04:29:54 AM
I thought Foster was from manchester!  ???

Deano is from Salford. Ben is local and started his career at Racing Club Warwick!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: chipperclark on June 08, 2012, 06:01:58 AM
 :D Think we will get Robinson or Cudicini (worked with Steve Clarke at Chelsea) if we don't get Ben. Myhill will return as backup(would be ok did well with Bloose).
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: tuamigos on June 08, 2012, 06:38:14 AM
I agree.

 I don't think Green is a bad keeper though. If you were in SC's position who would you go with?

If Fosters signed on SC's watch that would at least get some of our fans onside.
Good PR.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Mister AT on June 08, 2012, 08:36:31 AM
Id very much expect Foster to be signed around a week after Clarke is announced, kind of a fan sweetner to get them on his side.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Smooth Lad on June 08, 2012, 03:29:24 PM
Id very much expect Foster to be signed around a week after Clarke is announced, kind of a fan sweetner to get them on his side.

Nah, that's too easy and too good to be true.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: spencer Baggie on June 08, 2012, 06:45:04 PM
Priority signing.

Green is another Scott Carson waiting to happen.

There are a few championship goalies worth a look though. I just want a smug, arrogant goalie with confidence. He'll need it if Olsson goes and we don't replace him! 
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: bigbadjohn on June 09, 2012, 02:15:19 AM
Foster will keep us up on is own he's that good , sign him up ASAP !!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Hunnington Baggie on June 09, 2012, 05:53:40 AM
Deano is from Salford. Ben is local and started his career at Racing Club Warwick!
Thanks guys, i remember being told he was born and raise in the Manc. I see I was wrong.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: off_foo_182 on June 09, 2012, 09:08:08 AM
Foster will keep us up on is own he's that good , sign him up ASAP !!

Couldn't do it at the blues... I really want us to sign foster but at the end of the day you know we wont be signing him. Too expensive. We'll go for a decent free replacement like green or gordan or pig ect.
Just the way the albion work and i guess if you accept that its not as dissapointing. We all know olsson is going as well. You have to look forward to the next Mcauley.
We are a superbly run club and have the ability to sign some real gems.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: devonbaggiecjaj on June 09, 2012, 09:32:12 AM
I'm sure they are doing everything possible to ensure Ben is signed, as the last game of the season will still be fresh in JP & DA's minds and sever as a reminder of the standard of keeper needed in this league.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: off_foo_182 on June 09, 2012, 09:38:04 AM
Foster is out of our price range. Otherwise we would have bought him or agreed a fee last year. We simply saw the opportunity to get a class keeper for a year for free and took it. I really wouldn't get any hopes up of signing him... I hope i am proved wrong though.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: devonbaggiecjaj on June 09, 2012, 11:21:32 AM
thought blues wanted to loan him out only , so if they had come straight back up then he would have returned.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Brummie Road on June 09, 2012, 11:31:08 AM
Foster is out of our price range. Otherwise we would have bought him or agreed a fee last year. We simply saw the opportunity to get a class keeper for a year for free and took it. I really wouldn't get any hopes up of signing him... I hope i am proved wrong though.

You will be (proved wrong that is).
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: wbarenno on June 10, 2012, 09:30:24 AM
Ive really got a feeling we wont even bid for foster and we will just go for the free options in green,gordon or the pole. I hope im wrong but with albion track record a free transfer is more likely
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: AlbionBest on June 10, 2012, 09:36:14 AM
Seems very quiet on the Foster front - just hope we are doing everything we can in the background to secure him.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: DudleyBaggieFan on June 10, 2012, 11:36:09 AM
Not sure if it means anything, probably doesn't, but his name and player profile is still on the OS. I thought he returned to blues at the end of the season?
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Londonbaggymike on June 10, 2012, 11:39:25 AM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: hardtobeat on June 10, 2012, 01:53:45 PM
IMO if we are baulking at paying 5mil for Foster we might as well pack in, i know we cannot afford to be stupid with money fees wages etc but that cuts both ways,no longer can the premier league be done on the cheap to NOT pay 5mil for Ben would be stupidly naive!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: rubyruby on June 10, 2012, 02:03:26 PM
IMO if we are baulking at paying 5mil for Foster we might as well pack in, i know we cannot afford to be stupid with money fees wages etc but that cuts both ways,no longer can the premier league be done on the cheap to NOT pay 5mil for Ben would be stupidly naive!

Im with you on this one HTB. In general I dont think the climate should lean towards big transfer fees but for me a top GK is a pre requisite in the PL and should be a cornerstone of the squad. behind Hart and Reina he is the best and we should make every effort to secure him on a permanent.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: timdon on June 10, 2012, 03:00:15 PM
Since QPR bid 5 million for him, it's all gone very quiet. Does anyone know whether that bid was accepted by Blues or not?
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: monkey nuts on June 10, 2012, 04:32:28 PM
QPR havn't bid for him and Ben is still on hols and as i have said before money is not as important to him as some players don't under estimate how important his family is
to him
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: stubba on June 10, 2012, 06:12:42 PM
cant see anyone bidding 5mill for a player in the last year of his contract.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: KingKoren on June 10, 2012, 06:16:27 PM
cant see anyone bidding 5mill for a player in the last year of his contract.

He isn't in his last year of his contract. The club have a 2year option after this year.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: glosterbaggie on June 10, 2012, 08:33:00 PM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: moggie on June 10, 2012, 09:31:14 PM
I wonder whether our chairman or Dan Ashworth negotiated a price for the transfer at the time of setting up the loan, subject to Blues not getting promoted?
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: alex1 on June 11, 2012, 12:07:47 AM
I wonder whether our chairman or Dan Ashworth negotiated a price for the transfer at the time of setting up the loan, subject to Blues not getting promoted?
Assuming signing Foster is a priority for the club, we should be a step ahead of any other interested clubs. He has been at the club for 10 months and so there has been more than enough opportunity to arrive at a clear strategy to finalise a deal, once it became clear he was a perfect fit. Of course there has been the delay over finding a manager, but securing Foster is so important that we shouldn't have taken the risk of waiting this long.

If in spite of that, QPR or Tottenham manage to snap him up at this stage, then I'm afraid that's an enormous b@lls-up by our management team. Even if another club offers more money, by all accounts Foster wants to stay in the area, and a commute to London is stressful enough for those living alot closer than Leamington. However, by delaying things, we are giving other clubs the chance to turn his head.  If he went to a rival club, that could literally be the difference between relegation or survival next season.

Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: tuamigos on June 11, 2012, 09:37:18 AM
Assuming signing Foster is a priority for the club, we should be a step ahead of any other interested clubs. He has been at the club for 10 months and so there has been more than enough opportunity to arrive at a clear strategy to finalise a deal, once it became clear he was a perfect fit. Of course there has been the delay over finding a manager, but securing Foster is so important that we shouldn't have taken the risk of waiting this long.

If in spite of that, QPR or Tottenham manage to snap him up at this stage, then I'm afraid that's an enormous b@lls-up by our management team. Even if another club offers more money, by all accounts Foster wants to stay in the area, and a commute to London is stressful enough for those living alot closer than Leamington. However, by delaying things, we are giving other clubs the chance to turn his head.  If he went to a rival club, that could literally be the difference between relegation or survival next season.

Hugh's is lining up a bid for Given according to today's papers.
If Given goes a natural replacement would be Foster, thus he still has the option to stay in the area!  ???
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Mister AT on June 11, 2012, 09:48:20 AM
Think he would choose Villa over us IF we offered the same terms.

Part of me thinks we wont sign this guy though.

Cant see Norwich signing a keeper with them rating Ruddy so highly.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: B_H_Baggie on June 11, 2012, 09:52:52 AM
QPR will be linked with hundreds of players this summer as everyone knows they have money to spend and that Hughes likes to shell out on players. I'm pretty sure they have already been linked with about 10 keepers in the papers.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: timdon on June 11, 2012, 07:52:49 PM
I reckon there are two possible scenarios:
1 We agreed a fee with Blues when we were lent him, dependent on Blues not being promoted. This would explain the QPR interest being switched to other goalies and Spurs interest appearing not to have come to anything. They may have made an enquiry and been told "Sorry we have an agreement in place with West Brom"
2 It will go to a bidding auction once the Euros finish, in which case I don't think we have a chance of signing him because someone will offer to pay more than we are willing to + pay him bigger wages
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: zippyandbungle on June 11, 2012, 07:54:32 PM
Foster will sit for us ..
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: alex1 on June 11, 2012, 09:02:08 PM
Hugh's is lining up a bid for Given according to today's papers.
If Given goes a natural replacement would be Foster, thus he still has the option to stay in the area!  ???
Another reason for JP/DA to get this sorted.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: devonbaggiecjaj on June 11, 2012, 10:15:16 PM
dose anyone know how much foster is getting at blues
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: zippyandbungle on June 11, 2012, 10:33:20 PM
dose anyone know how much foster is getting at blues
Due to the embargo he now gets
Duck wraps , prawn balls and as much egg fried rice as he can handle.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: devonbaggiecjaj on June 11, 2012, 10:42:54 PM
Due to the embargo he now gets
Duck wraps , prawn balls and as much egg fried rice as he can handle.

He'll be able to feed the family then  ;D
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Standaman on June 12, 2012, 12:14:23 AM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Standaman on June 12, 2012, 12:23:52 AM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: tuamigos on June 12, 2012, 07:49:32 AM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: dont ask me to choose luv on June 12, 2012, 07:55:32 AM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: lewisant on June 12, 2012, 09:57:47 AM
i suspect the mirror know nothing hence all these stories that clash
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: mulliganstired on June 12, 2012, 11:59:51 AM
Sorry if anyone's already said this, but if we keep Foster the bottom line is we almost certainly stay up.  Simples.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: tuamigos on June 12, 2012, 12:03:19 PM
Sorry if anyone's already said this, but if we keep Foster the bottom line is we almost certainly stay up.  Simples.

He didn't keep blues up.  8)
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: KingKoren on June 12, 2012, 12:06:29 PM
He didn't keep blues up.  8)

Or Watford
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: wba1993dave on June 12, 2012, 12:09:00 PM
3 million plus Boaz Myhill would be a good deal for them and for us.

* We get a top quality keeper
*They get a  nice fee of 3 million and they get a top Championship Keeper

Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: lewisant on June 12, 2012, 01:11:15 PM
3 million plus Boaz Myhill would be a good deal for them and for us.

* We get a top quality keeper
*They get a  nice fee of 3 million and they get a top Championship Keeper

including players i think always complicates deals but if he wanted to go there it certainly could help us compete with other clubs with more financial clout
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Mister AT on June 12, 2012, 01:33:31 PM
I think 3 million and Myhill on a permanant would be a good deal, and possibly offer Wood again for a season loan if they wanted more...
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Hull Baggie on June 12, 2012, 02:14:32 PM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: geoff on June 12, 2012, 02:19:53 PM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Hull Baggie on June 12, 2012, 02:43:34 PM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: johnny Cash on June 14, 2012, 11:42:00 AM
Does a change of manager at spurs take them out of the race for Foster?

New man, new ideas and Redknapp was definately in charge of his transfers rather than a DOF who may still be keen.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: WBAinDEVON on June 14, 2012, 11:56:20 AM
Does a change of manager at spurs take them out of the race for Foster?

New man, new ideas and Redknapp was definately in charge of his transfers rather than a DOF who may still be keen.


Include Mulumbu and Olsson too, oh and Pete probably thought he was good enough for them aswell
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Mister AT on June 14, 2012, 12:26:45 PM
Olssons 'transfer' may well be well and truely over now.

All depends on who the new manager is however, its a foreign bloke im guessing Olsson wont be going there.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Standaman on June 14, 2012, 06:12:23 PM
Olssons 'transfer' may well be well and truely over now.

All depends on who the new manager is however, its a foreign bloke im guessing Olsson wont be going there.

Foster's reluctance to move to London takes Spurs out of the running. If Moyes goes to Spurs it will not diminish the likelihood of h im going to Spurs.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Avonbaggie on June 15, 2012, 07:03:02 AM
Foster tweeted that he still wasn't sure what was going on but loves bcfc and wbafc very much
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: tuamigos on June 15, 2012, 08:04:08 AM
Foster tweeted that he still wasn't sure what was going on but loves bcfc and wbafc very much

Just shows that in the Premier League even the players are a commodity to be used and abused.
If the cant be bothered to keep the players informed what respect are they likely to have for us as fans
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Adder on June 15, 2012, 08:20:32 AM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: phbaggies on June 15, 2012, 08:56:49 AM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Mister AT on June 15, 2012, 09:43:54 AM
Im sure we may be able to force their hand.

With Qpr signing Green, and no one else really needing a keeper, should give us a clear run at Birmingham to get the best deal for Foster.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: BaggieJames114 on June 15, 2012, 10:41:33 AM
Reidy stirring the pot by tweeting Foster that he'll see him July 8th ;)
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Standaman on June 15, 2012, 12:02:03 PM
Just shows that in the Premier League even the players are a commodity to be used and abused.
If the cant be bothered to keep the players informed what respect are they likely to have for us as fans

I think Ben knows a little bit more than he will let on to in public, would be amazed if his agent is not all over this. Premier League players are anything but commodities they really do call the tune when it comes to their future if it was purely down to the clubs he would be sold to the highest bidder and that would unlikely to be us.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: mank baggie on June 15, 2012, 01:08:51 PM
I think Ben knows a little bit more than he will let on to in public, would be amazed if his agent is not all over this. Premier League players are anything but commodities they really do call the tune when it comes to their future if it was purely down to the clubs he would be sold to the highest bidder and that would unlikely to be us.
i think your bang on fella
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Floydy on June 16, 2012, 01:13:57 PM
Im sure we may be able to force their hand.

With Qpr signing Green, and no one else really needing a keeper, should give us a clear run at Birmingham to get the best deal for Foster.

I'm starting to become optimistic too.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: wba1993dave on June 16, 2012, 01:56:10 PM
I think Ben will sign very soon, spurs have no manager and green is going to QPR. Am pretty certain that JP and Ashworth are working on the deal as we speak.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: B_H_Baggie on June 16, 2012, 02:50:39 PM
Although I believe our chances of signing Foster are very good I can see us playing the long game with this transfer to try and get the best deal possible for the club. The longer it goes on with no other clubs looking to make a solid move for him the more chance we have of Blues settling for a lower price to get his wages off their bill.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: B_H_Baggie on June 16, 2012, 02:53:47 PM
I think Ben will sign very soon, spurs have no manager and green is going to QPR. Am pretty certain that JP and Ashworth are working on the deal as we speak.

I'm not so sure Spurs not having a manager will make much difference, they will have been planning early for the summer without Redknapp anyway with the amount of speculation about him leaving for the England job. I don't think its a deal we will rush, we will want to wear them down to get the best deal possible.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: smethwickw on June 16, 2012, 04:45:22 PM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: alex1 on June 16, 2012, 06:45:00 PM
Although I believe our chances of signing Foster are very good I can see us playing the long game with this transfer to try and get the best deal possible for the club. The longer it goes on with no other clubs looking to make a solid move for him the more chance we have of Blues settling for a lower price to get his wages off their bill.

The longer we leave it, the more chance some other club will jump in, and then there is every chance we will be out bid. We need to nail this now quickly. Its such a no brainer when you hear some of the other alternatives being mentioned (including Green of WHU). He really connected with the fans last season and I'd like to see a stronger Midlands presence in our team, especially if they have Foster's quality.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: KnaveofAlbion on June 16, 2012, 08:25:10 PM
The longer we leave it, the more chance some other club will jump in

Ben's been on Holiday in the states with his kids for the past few weeks. So no rush there. Plus he very much wants to stay in the Midlands. The only team we'd have to fear is Villa and they've got Given. I think he's ours.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: B_H_Baggie on June 16, 2012, 09:17:51 PM
The longer we leave it, the more chance some other club will jump in, and then there is every chance we will be out bid. We need to nail this now quickly.

As Solo has already said he's not even in the country at the moment and not a lot is happening with transfers anywhere. As for being outbid I don't see anyone out there that needs a number 1 goalkeeper especially as QPR look to be signing Green. Foster has made it clear that he wants to remain in the Midlands so I think that even though it may take a while there is a very good chance he will be ours in the summer and for a reasonable price too.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: alex1 on June 16, 2012, 10:34:23 PM
As Solo has already said he's not even in the country at the moment and not a lot is happening with transfers anywhere. As for being outbid I don't see anyone out there that needs a number 1 goalkeeper especially as QPR look to be signing Green. Foster has made it clear that he wants to remain in the Midlands so I think that even though it may take a while there is a very good chance he will be ours in the summer and for a reasonable price too.
The problem is that if Blues and Albion can't reach a settlement, he would have to look at his other options. If indeed he is intent on staying in Leamington, I hope he isn't tempted into commuting out of the region. Commuting to London is a nightmare given how the M25 is, and I hear the M6 can be pretty gruesome. However, I wouldn't be too surprised if the Stokies put in a cheeky bid, which would be just about within travelling distance. It wouldn't be the first time we'd been pipped by them. If he was seriously considering an option like Stoke, it would be good for someone with direct experience to write to him about how awful a daily commute would be. I just think that Albion have a history of being slow off the mark when going for players. 
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: B_H_Baggie on June 16, 2012, 10:40:03 PM
I think its more a history of trying to get very good deals for the club. No doubt we have lost out in the past by not moving quickly enough or simply not wanting to pay what someone else will but with the situation at Blues I can understand them wanting to get the best possible deal as they will be desperate to get his wages off their bill before the window closes so the valuations the clubs have will hopefully come a lot closer together in the not too distant future.

As for Stoke I don't believe they would spend on another keeper, I'm pretty sure Sorenson signed a new deal last season and Begovic is a good keeper so they are well stocked for me. He will want a move where he will be the number one and there aren't any clubs looking for one except maybe QPR and possibly those that got promoted.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: WorcsWBA on June 17, 2012, 12:14:59 PM
Whether or not we sign Foster will be a statement of intent (or lack of it) in my view. If we sign him, it will be a pointer that we're not just there to make up the numbers. If we don't sign him, it'll be an indication that a make do and mend attitude is prevalent and would be great cause for concern in my view.

Let's also hope that transfer fee brinkmanship doesn't become a factor, as we could quite easily lose out whilst indulging in it.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Londonbaggymike on June 17, 2012, 11:39:59 PM
When asked about foster today CL said there is nothing new but "I wouldn't worry about it". He thinks it's just a matter of time and agreeing a fee.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Standaman on June 18, 2012, 01:19:44 AM
Whether or not we sign Foster will be a statement of intent (or lack of it) in my view. If we sign him, it will be a pointer that we're not just there to make up the numbers. If we don't sign him, it'll be an indication that a make do and mend attitude is prevalent and would be great cause for concern in my view.

Let's also hope that transfer fee brinkmanship doesn't become a factor, as we could quite easily lose out whilst indulging in it.

Nothing of the sort Foster is almost a one off. If the player is intent on staying in the Midlands then we are pretty much his only option if he is prepared to move then we have no chance whatsoever of signing him. It is all down to the player.

However if it happens it cannot be taken as sign of serious intent on behalf of the club nor does it have any bearing on any other deals over the summer beyond the more we spend on Foster the less there is to spend elsewhere.

 
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: tuamigos on June 18, 2012, 06:09:47 AM
When asked about foster today CL said there is nothing new but "I wouldn't worry about it". He thinks it's just a matter of time and agreeing a fee.

Didn't he say something along those lines about Ralph a well?
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: KingKoren on June 18, 2012, 01:47:17 PM
WBAFCofficial ?@WBAFCofficial
Ashworth: We're in talks with B'ham City about Ben Foster. Price has to be right for us and Blues. I'm hopeful we can find common ground.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Hunnington Baggie on June 18, 2012, 02:06:21 PM
Didn't he say something along those lines about Ralph a well?
no, he said he wasn't in the running. as it turned out he wasn't
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Kicking Pigeons on June 18, 2012, 05:11:32 PM
http://www.wba.co.uk/page/News/0,,10366~2815517,00.html

The last time the club put something on the official site about potentially signing a specific player was Hargreaves, and before that Carew, and we all know how they turned out.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: KnaveofAlbion on June 18, 2012, 05:42:18 PM
http://www.wba.co.uk/page/News/0,,10366~2815517,00.html

The last time the club put something on the official site about potentially signing a specific player was Hargreaves, and before that Carew, and we all know how they turned out.

In both instances I think it was a case of said player using us to put themselves in the window. I honestly don't think Ben is like that. He'll do what is best for him and his family no doubt. But football is just a job to him. He wants to stay in the midlands and not flit about chasing big money moves.

If he signs for Spurs or QPR i'd be really surprised. I think Brum will try to raise interest as will his agent, but i think he's ours.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: TLMS17 on June 18, 2012, 06:08:41 PM
http://www.wba.co.uk/page/News/0,,10366~2815517,00.html

The last time the club put something on the official site about potentially signing a specific player was Hargreaves, and before that Carew, and we all know how they turned out.
And would I be right in saying before that Djemba Djemba  ;D
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: phbaggies on June 18, 2012, 06:38:11 PM
They're not saying he's signing though they are saying dialogue has started between the clubs even if that is successful there are still terms to be discussed so it's a long way off still
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: The Black Pearl on June 18, 2012, 10:40:29 PM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: WSBaggie on June 19, 2012, 12:31:27 AM
He has a year left on his contract and Blues are in dire straits financially. We are the club least likely in the PL to go gung ho and splash unneeded money on a player.

We will agree a fee eventually it's just a matter of time. If he doesn't want to leave the area then time is on our side, if he doesn't mind leaving then we best act quickly.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: tuamigos on June 19, 2012, 06:54:55 AM
Somebody obviously thought this one out

http://www.oftenpartisan.co.uk/archives/5703/the-ben-foster-deal.html
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: KYA on June 19, 2012, 07:18:30 AM
Interesting link.
The fact blues may have a 3yr option on Foster is immaterial he wants to play premier football and they can't afford his wages.
Like most Albion negotiations a slow burner to get the best deal possible.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Mister AT on June 19, 2012, 09:59:17 AM
I think he'll sign for a inital 3 million deal raising to 5 due to certain factors etc etc.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Albion79 on June 19, 2012, 11:49:20 AM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: rubyruby on June 19, 2012, 01:39:37 PM
Personally I think this will get done its just a case of the two clubs meeting in the middle and Foster wants to stay at the Albion.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: lewisant on June 19, 2012, 02:02:04 PM
i just hope its done before pre season games begin rather than seeing brinkmanship. Would be good for our back line (inc Foster) and Steve Clarke to have a full pre season together
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: WBArgo on June 19, 2012, 02:02:38 PM
Personally I think this will get done its just a case of the two clubs meeting in the middle and Foster wants to stay at the Albion.
I'd agree with this, but football can be funny sometimes. I haven't looked at the deal too closely but it seems both sides are bargaining and the outcome is inevitable.
Foster wants to stay in the midlands, preferably at the top level and the Blues can't afford his wages (their financial scenario has worsened since last year). So, basically they have to sell and Foster will happily go to us.

The only outside threat is a late bid from someone like Stoke (Similar club size but too Northern?), Tottenham (Did not achieve Champions League plus too Southern?) and Reading (In range from Leamington Spa but seem completely off the radar).

Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: tuamigos on June 20, 2012, 06:36:00 AM
Looks like we may have given them something to chew on

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/football/view/257723/Last-West-Brom-bid-for-Ben-Foster/
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: bednarsboingboing balls on June 20, 2012, 08:14:26 AM
I tell you what if we dont keep foster , it`s a 15-20 point mistake, he is well worth 5 million, give them the money albion. >:(
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: wba1993dave on June 20, 2012, 08:22:45 AM
Bit of a poor offer if true , I hope we don't go cheap just give them 5 million or can't we afford that?
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: off_foo_182 on June 20, 2012, 08:47:46 AM
Why waste the extra money with no other interested parties. That 1.25 million could be used to bump up olssons contract...

Have some faith/ Don't start a career in poker.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: JDWest_Brom on June 20, 2012, 09:03:48 AM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: phbaggies on June 20, 2012, 09:16:20 AM
One thing is for sure from previous experience is we will not be bullied into paying a penny more than we think he is worth, we have lost so many potential signings because of this in the past so this will not be any different.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Mister AT on June 20, 2012, 09:19:29 AM
Thing is, Birmingham cant really afford to turn away 3.75 million for a player they didnt have there last season.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: monkey nuts on June 20, 2012, 10:14:55 AM
why pay more than 4m when they can't activate the 2 yr option they have because they are skint, so theoretically he is in his last year
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Standaman on June 20, 2012, 10:27:55 AM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: rubyruby on June 20, 2012, 12:42:19 PM
See the press are reporting WBA as having a take it or leave it offer. I dont buy that they make it up as they go along! I would be surprised if the clubs are that far apart. If you look at recent dealings between the clubs it would appear the communication is more than co operative
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: phbaggies on June 20, 2012, 02:06:04 PM
3.75m plus Tamas or Woods job done!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: lewisant on June 20, 2012, 03:02:05 PM
we cant just throw players at brum, they have a transfer embargo, players going in must be a necessity
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: phbaggies on June 20, 2012, 03:18:57 PM
They are hoping to have embargo lifted this week, Foster transfer will probably be going on well into July knowing us!!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: leeiswba on June 20, 2012, 04:38:01 PM
A transfer embargo doesnt necessarily mean they cant sign players but it has to be authorized by the FA or FL first. For instance the FA or FL wouldnt just leave Birmingham with one goalkeeper so a money offer plus Myhill is realistic
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Tipton Baggie on June 20, 2012, 05:05:31 PM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: KnaveofAlbion on June 20, 2012, 05:51:27 PM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: johnthebaggie on June 20, 2012, 06:16:48 PM
See the press are reporting WBA as having a take it or leave it offer. I dont buy that they make it up as they go along! I would be surprised if the clubs are that far apart. If you look at recent dealings between the clubs it would appear the communication is more than co operative
Two papers reporting it are the sun and the star......nuff said

Personally I think we will sign him for about 4 million, might take a few weeks though.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: gerry m on June 20, 2012, 06:39:07 PM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: j_dog_1980 on June 20, 2012, 09:18:23 PM
 Top keeper! He's the one player I wanted to keep from last year. Makes the difference with him between the sticks and the defence seem more confident with him behind them. 2, 3, 4 ,5, 6 million, I dont care! Just Sign him Albion!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: rubyruby on June 20, 2012, 10:19:01 PM
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: alex1 on June 20, 2012, 10:31:25 PM
I'll be majorly dissappointed if this deal falls through. Blues may well be prepared to sit it out and wait for another club.Ok he wants to stay in the Midlands, but if none of the 3 Midlands Prem clubs can take him, he'll have to stay with Blues or retire. Or re-think what his options are.  Foster is probably the second best English keeper so he's bound to attract interest. I think Albion need to nail this. Offer them Cox, Tamas, Scharner, I'm not sure which positions they need strengthening. Foster has really connected with the fans, through his whole attitude and the confidence he has given the defence. 95% of a recent poll voted for him to stay.  If we don't get Foster, it really will  be a second best solution.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: the lords my shepherd on June 20, 2012, 10:50:52 PM
Over the years we have had some top keepers since i've been going to games with the likes of John Osborne, Tony Godden, Alan Miller and Russell Hoult but i honestly believe Foster is as good if not better than all these. He loves it here and has a great rapport with the supporters. I too would be very disappointed if we didn't sign him.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Aixelsyd on June 20, 2012, 11:11:46 PM
I actually doubt the "Blues"will play too hard ball on Foster..

They need the cash, by the sounds of it, and if they need to get new players in they will need to show the FA some solvency..... i.e. Cash from a Foster deal in the bank ;)


Just my take but I think it will happen pretty soon :)
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: Londonbaggymike on June 21, 2012, 12:38:42 AM
Over the years we have had some top keepers since i've been going to games with the likes of John Osborne, Tony Godden, Alan Miller and Russell Hoult but i honestly believe Foster is as good if not better than all these. He loves it here and has a great rapport with the supporters. I too would be very disappointed if we didn't sign him.

Interesting.  I've called foster the best since Godden on here before then wondered if he was better after posting. Better than Osborne? Only saw him a couple of times as a little kid but held in very high regard. Do you think he's better than Ossie? I know the game has moved on (I've watched it happen!) but if you're right then Ben could be an Albion legend because Osborne most definately is!
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: WSBaggie on June 21, 2012, 12:48:13 AM
I reckon we will get this deal done. Blues are desperate for money and us playing hard ball will only work in our favour by getting us a lower price and giving us the opportunity to invest the 'saved' cash elsewhere.
Title: Re: Ben Foster
Post by: the lords my shepherd on June 21, 2012, 07:32:13 AM