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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Twenty Year Retrospective
« Last post by TheJacko2000 on Yesterday at 11:58:58 PM »
On the quiz I have absolutely no recollection of Volmer ever playing for the club.


Didn't get Volmer either, was also mildly crestfallen when Martis and Tininho were correct answers...
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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Slaven Bilic
« Last post by SmethDan on Yesterday at 11:39:54 PM »
Any one else wondering what SB (is) up to during this hiatus in the season?......Anything else we think...he.. should be doing?

Having seen a photo of Mrs Bilic the other day, if I were Mr Bilic I'd be mostly banging the Mrs  8)  ;) .
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General Football & Sports / Re: Derby County
« Last post by Standaman on Yesterday at 11:26:50 PM »
I think this was the thread courtsey of the 2nd teir podcast.

Derby County could face a points deduction after they were charged with breaching financial rules.

Let's take a look back at the rollercoaster that is Derby County Football Club, starting off with Bobby Zamora.

So as you probably know, Derby were beaten in the 2014 Playoff final by a 91st minute goal by Bobby Zamora.

It was QPR's only shot on target.

Derby go into the new season full of optimism that they can build upon last seasons success.

They spend £3 million on George Thorne.

5 days later he's ruled out for 9 months with a knee injury.

They also brought in Spanish defender Raul Albentosa.

He was getting rave reviews for his performances for Eibar.

He played 8 games before disappearing off the face of the earth.

He also apparently had back problems because he left his orthotic insoles in Spain.

Not joking.

Their transfer business wasn't all bad that season though!

They brought in the likes of Jesse Lingard, Jack Butland, Jordan Ibe, Tom Ince, Stephen Warnock, Darren Bent and... er... Leon Best.

But surely with some of those players, promotion is guaranteed that season right?

After spending most of the season in the top two...

Derby end up needing a point on the last day to stay in the playoffs.

They lose 3-0 to Reading and Steve McClaren is sacked.

He's replaced by Carlo Ancelotti's assistant Paul Clement.

He's well backed by the club, who spend £21 million in the 2015 summer transfer window.

That includes £10 million on the dynamic midfield pairing of Jacob Butterfield and Bradley Johnson.

On Boxing Day, Derby are top of the Championship and unbeaten in seven games.

7 games later Paul Clement is sacked.

Derby chairman, Mel Morris, says the team weren't playing "the Derby way".

Also worth mentioning in January they spent £4 million to sign striker Nick Blackman from Reading and winger Abdoul Camara from Angers

Blackman played 29 games and scored 1 goal... he nows plays in Israel.

Camara played 26 games... he's now without a club at the age of 29.

Derby appoint academy director Darren Wassall as manager until the end of the season.

His only previous managerial experience was a 4-4 draw with Ipswich in 2013

In March, Derby are winning 3-0 away at Rotherham.

Wassall changes the formation and brings on two attackers.

Rotherham score 3 goals in the last 5 minutes.

Leon Best got two of them

Derby reach the playoffs but are beaten by Hull after losing 3-0 in the first leg.

Wassall isn't given the job.

Midfielder Jacob Butterfield's arrested at his own engagement party after a fight.

It supposedly started after a friend nibbled on his fiancée's big toe

New season, new manager.

Nigel Pearson's the new man in charge.

It's his first job since saving Leicester from relegation, prior to their title-winning season.

The goal? Promotion.

Derby win 3 of their first 14 games.

Pearson falls out with Mel Morris after reports he was spying on training sessions using a drone.

He's suspended pending an investigation into his behaviour before eventually being sacked.

Similar to the second (or in this case fourth) coming of Jesus, Steve McClaren returns to Derby for his fourth spell at the club (second as a manager).

He’s sacked six months later.

This is one of the rare seasons Derby weren’t challenging for promotion towards the end of it.

They already bottled it at the start of the season.

Gary Rowett’s appointed the new manager in March 2017.

In February, Derby are 2nd in the Championship.

They’ve lost just 5 games out of 30.

It finally looks like the Rams might have cracked it.

Of course not.

They win just four games in the rest of the season.

The Rams just scrape into the playoffs but lose to Fulham.

Despite Gary Rowett calling Derby his “dream job”, he leaves to go to Stoke

This season is when things start to go even crazier...

Let’s start with the positives.

Chelsea and England legend Frank Lampard’s appointed the new manager.

He also brings in loan stars Mason Mount, Fikayo Tomori and Harry Wilson

In January Derby accuse Leeds of spying on their training sessions.

It turns out that was the case and they’d actually been spying on everyone else as well.

Nevertheless the two sides meet and Derby lose 2-0.

Oh by the way I completely forgot!

Back in March 2018 sacked chief executive and Stone Cold Steve Austin impersonator Sam Rush.

It’s all a bit technical but in summary he was accused of:

- Paying Tom Ince’s mum £700k
- Paying Paul Ince to be an adviser
- Overpaying agents

He also allegedly paid £2 million for a scout report which recommended Derby sign Kylian Mbappe and Ousmane Dembele.

Not bad shouts tbf.

Anyway, where were we?

Oh yeah.

Probably England’s best ever left back, Ashley Cole, joined.

He was 38 by this point but still... banter ain’t it?

Derby scrape into the playoffs but come up against Leeds.

They lose the first leg 1-0.

No team has ever overturned a first leg loss away from home.

Derby win 4-2.

It wasn’t to be though...

Derby were beaten 2-1 in the playoff final.

The fourth time the club has lost in the playoffs in six seasons

Frank Lampard leaves to go to Chelsea in one of the most telegraphed moves in managerial history.

Less telegraphed though was the appointment of Phillip Cocu at Derby.

To sum up how that’s gone so far, here’s a before and after. (photo's of Cocu looking like he's aged 5 years in 6 months)

Less than two months into the season, Mason Bennett and Tom Lawrence are charged with drink driving after a night out.

It later turns out that captain Richard Keogh was in one of the cars and will be out injured for the rest of the season

Bennett and Lawrence are found guilty of drunk driving.

The club respond by... sacking Richard Keogh.

Derby announce the signing of Wayne Rooney.

Wayne.

Rooney.

How did they afford his wages?

A gambling company of course!

The same one who sponsor numerous other clubs in the Championship.

On the same day Rooney makes his debut, it’s revealed Derby paid their players late.

The club blame investment not coming in as expected...

In January, £10 million record signing Krystian Bielik is ruled out for the season with an ACL injury.

It’s the 10th ACL injury the club’s had in 6 years

And finally we get to now...

The club potentially on the verge of a points deduction.

Hardly surprising considering the club has spunked at least £60 million on transfer fees alone in the last 6 seasons.


Well it wasn't dull but some of decision making along the way is just bizarre.
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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Twenty Year Retrospective
« Last post by Standaman on Yesterday at 10:39:09 PM »
On the quiz I have absolutely no recollection of Volmer ever playing for the club.
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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Slaven Bilic
« Last post by Albionic on Yesterday at 10:20:11 PM »
Chilling and spending family time
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Non Sports/ Non Politics Board / Re: Coronavirus
« Last post by lewisant on Yesterday at 10:08:17 PM »
Cheers lads. Been out for a walk today, feel much much better.


Lee

Glad you’re feeling better chap
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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Slaven Bilic
« Last post by BigFrank20 on Yesterday at 09:45:28 PM »
Any one else wondering what SB and his management team are up to during this hiatus in the season?
I'd like to think they are at a minimum carrying out one of the most thorough reviews of potential transfer targets from around the world for the next two or three windows based on the varying scenarios of the outcome to this season?
Plenty of time to work their networks of contacts for news and views on who's upcoming and may be worth checking out and especially who to avoid!
Updating coaching ideas and methods?
Anything else we think they should be doing?
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Non Sports/ Non Politics Board / Re: Coronavirus
« Last post by TheJacko2000 on Yesterday at 08:52:55 PM »
Cheers lads. Been out for a walk today, feel much much better.


Lee
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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Twenty Year Retrospective
« Last post by TheJacko2000 on Yesterday at 08:47:23 PM »
93% on the starting XIs. Cheers Stan.
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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Twenty Year Retrospective
« Last post by Standaman on Yesterday at 08:42:50 PM »
So basically we're decent because so many other teams are run so cack?  :D

To be fair though we've always been in around the top of the game...apart from when we were below the Old first division/Prem

For every Paul Scharner there's a Pedro Pele

To a degree "well run" in the context of football clubs is not a particularly high bar.

It is not that Pele was bad or Scharner was good. We spent £1.3m on Pele as a occasionally used back up option in the Championship which was probably okay for a 29 year old at the time but it could never be argued that it was going to be transfer with any long term upside to it. We in effect replaced him the following season but he was still on the books.

Scharner a free transfer again a short term deal for a player just turned 30 when he arrived. We got the last two good years from him maybe we could have got another but he retired at 33.

Both to a degree were short term fixes one worked and the other didn't and Scharner did fit into a tactical framework but it is hard to make the same case for Pele.
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