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General Football & Sports / Re: Women's World Cup
« on: June 28, 2019, 11:43:19 AM »
Ironically I thought the free kick for the third goal was very soft and our player handballed it while on the floor before the freekick was awarded.

Hey-ho, good finish

I thought the same, couldn't really see why we got the freekick. Either way, it was a cracking finish


I have to say, I am enjoying the unknown in the sense that I know little about the quality of the teams in the tournament apart from France and USA are meant to be the best? Its been refreshing watching a game but without a predetermined opinion on who is/isnt any good

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Louie Barry
« on: June 27, 2019, 04:37:55 PM »
Hopefully this will put him off joining the Barca youth

https://talksport.com/football/564794/barcelona-la-masia-academy-lionel-messi-pique-decline/


Barcelona’s world famous academy, La Masia, is in a serious state of decline, according to reports.
The academy has a rich history when it comes to bringing through talent and has produced some of the best players in history.

Messi is a famous product of the La Masia academy and is arguably the greatest player to ever play for the club’s first team, but where will the next Messi come from? It won’t be La Masia, according to recent reports
Names such as Lionel Messi, Xavi, Andres Iniesta, Carles Puyol, Gerard Pique, Sergio Busquets, Pedro and Victor Valdes have gone on to be huge successes for Barcelona.

However, in recent seasons, the club has failed to blood talent of that world class calibre, with perhaps Sergi Roberto being the last notable player to feature in the first team.
But his debut for the Catalan giants came in 2013 and that means it is six years since a a graduate of note has made the step up.

Ara journalist Xavi Torres has outlined reasons for the decline and has explained exactly why La Masia is ‘sick.’
Torres explains why Barca president Josep Maria Bartomeu’s ‘Masia 360’ strategy has been a spectacular failure, saying he put the wrong people in charge, which cost the club a lot of money.
It also highlights how many of the players in the academy are loanees and the coaches in charge, do not understand the Barcelona philosophy, while the food is said to fall below the lowest nutritional standards.
La Masia's demise

- Of the 48 football players who live in La Masia right now, most of them are loanees and reserves
- Rooms meant to accomodate the players have been turned into offices and there is no longer a gym and the swimming tracks are out of bounds
- An audio visual room where the players studied football matches and spent time together has also been converted into a room for staff
- La Masia does not meet the lowest nutrition standards required
- The coaches employed do not have an understanding of the club’s philosophy which is refered to the ‘Barca DNA’
- Tutors do not think tutoring the players is necessary, with many saying what the teacher wants to hear in order to leave the sessions early
- According to La Masia officials 40-50 cases (serious illnesses of family members, separation of parents, economic problems etc) happen every year

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Non Sports/ Non Politics Board / Re: Conspiracy Theories
« on: June 19, 2019, 04:48:01 PM »
There is so much that is 'classified' and records destroyed that we wont know the truth with many of the conspiracy's that float around and I am generally very sceptical


However...

JFK was assassinated by the CIA - I think it was due to the vision he had to have a partnership with Russia with the Apollo moon landing after the Cuban Missile Crisis and the realisation of how close they came to nuclear war. I think there are powerful people in the US government that felt it wasn't in the United States 'interest' to have a partnership with Russia and preferred the option of the war machine created today. Erika Gregory references this in a TEDtalk a couple of years ago

Rothschilds have been doing a few less than ethical things since the Battle of Waterloo

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Very happy with this appointment not just because I think he is a decent coach, but if he has agreed to sign then he surely must have been given assurances with bringing players in etc. I doubt he would have joined us just to be asset stripped and rely on kids and has-beens.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Under 23's/ Academy Thread
« on: June 12, 2019, 04:10:40 PM »
If Barcelona do really come in for Barry then I think its very likely he will go there. The only thing about Barcelona's academy is I believe they run it a little different to academies here as they have over 300 youth players in their academy spread over a few teams. I hope the fact he might be just another number they put in the mixer trying to reproduce Xavi, Iniesta, Messi etc. and that he would have to completely change his environment at such a young age might put him off? Probably not, but here's hoping

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General Football & Sports / Re: Saido Berahino
« on: May 28, 2019, 12:07:31 PM »
Most employers would sack you over this yes. But outside of team sports, there is no industry which pays very large sums of money to gain an employee from another company, especially on a year to year basis. The value of an employee at a football club is that they are one of 30 odd players that have a direct impact on company performance and by sacking that player you are effectively zero'ing the value of an asset worth millions. It puts the club in a very difficult position when it comes to gross misconduct

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General Football & Sports / Re: Seals watch - Anything Villa
« on: May 28, 2019, 11:58:31 AM »
Apparently, due to Villa's promotion then a clause in Ross McCormacks contract means they will have to pay him £70k per week! Not played a game in 2 years mind

https://twitter.com/AdamCatterall/status/1133296362395721728

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Next manager...
« on: May 15, 2019, 12:35:31 PM »
A couple of names not mentioned, Mikel Arteta, Darren Fletcher.

Would be very interesting, I just can't see it happening. It will always be hard to pull away a key member of staff from a powerhouse such as Man City. He is much more likely to get a job at a decent La Liga side like Valencia.

If we could get him though I'm sure he will play the kind of football that we would love to see and attract some decent names

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Albion Matchday Forum / Re: After Match Debate
« on: May 15, 2019, 12:09:48 PM »
Also, the Hawthorns was absolutely rocking last night. I wasn't able to make the game but managed to watch it on the box and the whole ground was behind the team. Wolves as much as I hate to admit it do a lot to get the custard bowl fired up with all their pyrotechnics etc. makes a difficult atmosphere for teams to come to. Would love the Albion to do more to fire up the crowd at the start of games

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Albion Matchday Forum / Re: After Match Debate
« on: May 15, 2019, 12:06:39 PM »
Tough one to take last night. On one hand I am immensely proud of the performance put in by the players on the pitch, put themselves on the line and defended with honour. On the other hand it highlighted all of the issues that we have had this year, from not appointing a new manager to clearly not bolstering the forward line. At the end of the last season it was clear that we didn't have enough forward options and we didn't do anything to increase these numbers. Villa were poor overall and made several errors that we just didn't capitalise on and I am sure if we had Barnes running at them it would have been a very different game. In saying that, I think if we had Barnes still we would have come a lot closer to finishing 1st/2nd, Murphy was just not an adequate replacement

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Rekeem Harper
« on: May 13, 2019, 01:38:39 PM »
A real shame, thought he had all the attributes to be a top player but if he is making waves like this already at 18 he will eventually end up back down in the championship or lower for the rest of his career. To get to the top with football you have to have more than just play a bit, you need hard work and to be a good pro to name a few

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General Football & Sports / Re: Iker Cassilas
« on: May 03, 2019, 10:36:49 AM »
One of, if not, the best keepers in the world back in the day hope he makes a speedy recovery

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Albion Matchday Forum / Re: Pre Match Chat
« on: May 03, 2019, 10:20:09 AM »
I think this is a great opportunity to give some of our youngsters the taste of competitive first team football. We have nothing really to play for except momentum and as Derby will need a win they will be well up for it. Also gives them the experience of playing in front of the Sky cameras to use for further motivation. For me we should at least start some of the fringe first team youth such as Edwards and have Rogers on the bench. Not saying we should field a whole team of youth players but its definitely a chance to get some really good experience

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Michael Appleton
« on: April 26, 2019, 02:27:44 PM »
He's here for a few games guys, to help out. Relax.

It's at the end of the season you want to all start getting your knickers in a knot when it comes to appointing our new head coach. Now that DOES fill me with dread.

Appy helping out Shan - Meh!

Exactly, its not a major issue for me. Bring in someone that Shan has worked with before, that he can bounce tactical ideas off. Not likely to have a negative impact and he knows a lot of the players already so maybe can help get the message across to the players

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Non Sports/ Non Politics Board / Re: Extinction Rebellion in London
« on: April 23, 2019, 01:34:21 PM »
because that's nature duuuude lol.

I'm fed up of protests. When I worked at a school it was protest this protest that. For me it loses its impact when they happen too often. And protests that cause criminal damage or seriously put people out really bug me. Like the protests that have gone into airport runways and people's holidays get ruined. It's ok saying "well insurance covers it" but 1) it's ruined someones holiday and 2) when you claim off insurance your premium goes up, so who loses out... Man it bugs me haha.

Fully agree with this, even holiday makers are just a subsection of people/services that need the airports to function. Organ transplant donations, people going to see family they only get the chance to once a year, businesses importing/exporting to name a few. Thousands and thousands of people use the airport for a whole host of reasons which are very, very important

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Darren Moore sacked
« on: April 05, 2019, 10:18:48 AM »
I agree with the posts that Darren will be a great ambassador for the club and its a shame that the promotion to head coach meant that he would inevitably leave the club, would have been good to keep him working with the academy system. For me he will always be an Albion hero and I'm glad that he has left the club before our relationship with him turned sour, he would be welcomed back in the stands I'm sure.  Interesting that Darren had our best win percentage since Ozzy Ardilles, albeit most of that in the championship

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Albion Matchday Forum / Re: Pre Match Chat
« on: April 04, 2019, 02:26:59 PM »
Before each of the last 3 games I predicted a loss and been pleasantly proved wrong, therefore I will predict another loss  ;D

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Promotion race 2018/2019
« on: March 18, 2019, 12:09:34 PM »
Only way we get autos is if we win every game. Even then 91 points may not be enough.

Not that I think we will win every game but the chances of not getting automatic promotion on 91 points would be a first

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Guochuan Lai
« on: March 07, 2019, 12:30:35 PM »
https://www.expressandstar.com/sport/football/west-bromwich-albion/2019/03/07/chief-executive-mark-jenkins-flying-to-china-to-discuss-plans-with-owner-guochuan-lai/

Jenkins is jetting out to the Far East with finance director Lee Cooper and chief commercial officer Simon King.

They will provide a progress report to Lai and his associates from Palm, the eco-town development company Albion’s owner is affiliated to.

But the main reason behind the visit is to discuss the financial and commercial realities of next season.


Lai is keen to find out the differences between winning promotion to the Premier League and a second season in the Championship.

Albion are currently in fourth place, seven points off the top two and automatic promotion, although they remain in the play-off spots.

Should the Baggies fail to bounce back at the first opportunity, their parachute payments will dwindle from £41.5million this season to an estimated £34m.

If they win promotion, they are set to receive more than £100m in prize money from the Premier League next season.

Jenkins regularly flies out to China to deliver progress reports to Albion’s majority shareholder.

However, Lai is not a regular visitor to The Hawthorns, and has attended just one game this season.

He is represented in England by executive director Ke Xu, who is based at Albion’s training ground.

Cooper joined the club in 2016 and was appointed finance director in August 2017. He oversees all areas of finance at the club.

King was appointed commercial officer in February 2017 after seven years in the same role at Hull City. He has also previously worked for Stockport County.

Oh dear is he really that clueless. ???

Surely it would have been better to discuss the impact of not being promoted before the January transfer window at least. Not a fat lot he can do about it now

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Fans reminded of ticket conditions
« on: February 19, 2019, 03:17:15 PM »
Could have finger print readers on all the gates
I’ve worked at a few factories that have them
Problem sorted


I know personally I am reluctant to willing give over all data about myself including biometric data just to watch a football match. This also includes requiring fingerprint information on all ticket holders such as under 18's which will never happen

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Albion Matchday Forum / Re: Team
« on: February 19, 2019, 03:01:55 PM »
Good point.

Id guess it would mean Sako would still be here so he would have been starting tonight, with possibly Hoolahan coming in.

As much as I don't rate Murphy at least there is the possibility he will improve over the season, wheareas Sako it much more likely just to get injured again

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General Football & Sports / Re: OFFICIAL CHAMPIONSHIP THREAD
« on: February 18, 2019, 01:46:55 PM »
Potentially interesting news, Kemar Roofe's currently out with a knee ligament injury.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/47281552

Massive for our game in a couple of weeks time, Roofe is involved in a lot of Leeds goals one way or another they will miss him big time

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Confession
« on: February 08, 2019, 01:18:04 PM »
I was dragged up to Buxton for the final game of the season a few years ago when Sir Alex managed his last game against us and was a 5-5 draw. Biggest regret of my life

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Non Sports/ Non Politics Board / Re: Liam Neeson
« on: February 08, 2019, 12:31:22 PM »
Not that I defend his actions (I find racist behaviour sickening) but from listening to the interview it comes across he was explaining his mind set at the time and that he found his behaviour disgusting. Whether he set this publicity up is another question but a remorseful former racist is far better than a current racist which I don't think he is. On another note I have no idea how many black men lived in Ireland in the 1970's but I doubt it is many and I think unfortunately public opinion on race was very different then. Not that this condones it but I don't imagine he is the only person who has regrets their view point when they were younger

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Darren Moore sacked
« on: February 07, 2019, 05:51:01 PM »
Absolutely no chance.

I would bet my house on DM not losing his job before the end of the season.

The only way he loses his job in the summer would be if we exploded now and didn't even make the playoffs, even though I would probably hazard a guess at him still remaining in a job.

DM has dealt with a lot in his time in his first job, steadying a sinking ship that couldn't buy a win in the premier league, dealing with all the chaos in the summer, no club structure, dealing with all the ins and outs, being given a very limited budget to try and mount a promotion challenge, changed the style of play, brought the club together, changed the perception of the club to others, bring back a little bit of pride to be a baggie, has us sitting just off the top 2, 2nd highest scorers in the country, introduced several youth team players into the first team squad.

All that plus more in his first managerial job is incredible. You only have to look at Villa, Stoke, Swansea to see how hard it is to fall on your feet in this league and be challenging straight away.

Give the bloke a bloody break, hes done a great job, he is going to get things wrong of course he is, its his first job, he's learning as he goes. Quite frankly some of the fans who want him sacked, would be better off toddling down the M6 and going to support the Vile.

Anyone would think we are sitting 16th in the club and not having a clue what to do each game.
Can't agree more with this. Yes I think there are some decisions of Moore's that I disagree with but overall he is doing a stand up job. This time last year we were bottom of the premier league with something like 3/4 wins in around 40 games (This hardly improved until DM). Since he took over he gained some dignity back with the final few results in the PL and then mounted a strong promotion push in arguably the most competitive league going. Yes we have a lot of 'premier league stars', as a lot of opposition clubs have said but we all know how little that can really mean. Stoke had a lot of 'premier league' players as have a number of teams over the years but not many are able to bounce straight back up


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