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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Sam Field (on loan at Charlton)
« on: August 22, 2019, 05:44:19 PM »

Very lucky not to be starting a 3 match ban and costing his team a point.

Don't agree. Clearly won the ball but unfortunately followed through into the player. Some may have called it a foul but he won the ball 100%.

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Just to point out his twitter and instagram profile pics still have him in an Albion shirt...

just to put water on your bonfire, he rarely updates twitter. I already checked his social media for the same reasons as you..!!

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
« on: July 22, 2019, 07:54:41 PM »
If he doesn't play much, he will be gone.

He was pretty fed up with not getting more time last season.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Director of Football
« on: July 22, 2019, 07:52:32 PM »

Few people on twitter saying Zohore and Furlong are Dowling driven signings and Bilic isn't particulalrly enamoured with them. Sawyers presumably would be the same as he was on the radar last season.

Who is saying this on twitter?

I find it hard to believe, as Bilic gets the final say. I would be surprised if Bilic allowed this. He has already spoken out once about lack of signings a week ago, surely he would speak out about this?

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Kieran Gibbs
« on: July 20, 2019, 02:21:09 PM »

I don't think it would, I think Townsend is better now. Gibbs regressing for me, he's either giving penalties away or not closing crosses down. I'd be making Townsend first choice left back regardless of whether or not Gibbs stays.

Interesting point, but I think Gibbs offers us pace

I did like Townsend 's passing last year as he does look forward but he isn't the quickest.

At least we are adding more pace across the squad generally with two new signings but I do believe ee must keep the pace we had.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Kieran Gibbs
« on: July 20, 2019, 02:14:05 PM »
Not in the squad today...  ???

Does this mean he is on the way? Would be a big loss.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Squad
« on: July 20, 2019, 02:08:39 PM »
No Nyom in squad today - presumably that confirms his move to Getafaye??

Surprised to note that Soule not getting involved given our lack of strikers..

More worrying, is no Gibbs...

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Under 23's/ Academy Thread
« on: July 19, 2019, 04:32:58 PM »
Glad we have tied Clayton Phillips down, he looks like he could be the next one to get near the first team, looks tidy on the ball and chips in with his fair share of goals.

Worryingly, Soule isn't named on that list. The club will be trying to get him to  sign a deal, finished top scorer last year and had some big clubs monitoring him in semi final. Be interested to see what happens with him over the next few weeks/months.

Hasn't Soule already signed a contract as he is older and it runs out next season. So more like the Harper situation rather than Barry.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Semi Ajayi
« on: July 18, 2019, 09:37:50 PM »
Same Journo has just posted he was not referring to the Daily Mail story so who knows what’s going on  ;)

It’s the most wonderful time of the year Haha

Which journalist saying what? Sorry, confused what you mean.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Semi Ajayi
« on: July 18, 2019, 09:09:40 PM »
That's a good fee if true.

Cannot be true - thought they had already rejected £2.5m?

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Under 23's/ Academy Thread
« on: July 13, 2019, 09:14:48 PM »
Under 23 beat Alvechurch today 4-1.

Owen Windsor scored. Interesting that Jamie Soule wasn’t in the match day squad.

Interesting or worrying?

There were rumours he was the next one to be picked off.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Louie Barry
« on: July 06, 2019, 02:24:39 PM »
any figures, because club believed that he would sign what was on offer.

I know the figures. Believe me, if it was my son, speaking even as an Albion fan, I would tell them to stick it.

For an England International, with top6 English clubs sniffing, plus top European clubs, the offer is just jaw dropping.

Compared to you and I, we would be happy over the 3 years, but for a footballer I am in disbelief.

Maybe it's me though - out of interest, what would people say is reasonable over 3 years?

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Rekeem Harper
« on: July 06, 2019, 02:20:35 PM »
what about Phillips and Burke?

True. For got Phillips - probably be injured though.

           Defence x 4
        Livermore. Field
      Harper Krovanic phillips
                   JR

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Louie Barry
« on: July 06, 2019, 12:02:25 PM »
From a good source, I am told that our offer to him was poor, given the circumstances. It was a three year deal.
If what I am told is true, I am not surprised he has gone elsewhere and I do believe it is accurate.

I am fuming.

Is it a coincidence that Harrison left at the same time, as I would guess he would be incredibly frustrated with the lack of effort by the club. This bit is my speculation.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Rekeem Harper
« on: July 06, 2019, 11:50:34 AM »
A midfield pairing of Livermore and Field would see us struggle IMO. This is the area we need to improve on most. Neither have the ability to dictate a game. I still think we'll see Barry re sign out of desperation due to our usual faffing around.

Personally I would hope Livermore goes and we replace him not Field, but I cannot see it.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Rekeem Harper
« on: July 06, 2019, 11:14:21 AM »
Interestingly, being reported that the four contract on offer has now been revised to three.

Would that mean he could not leave on a free at the end of the three years as under 22? (I think)

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Rekeem Harper
« on: July 06, 2019, 11:06:25 AM »
Good news.

If we do play a 4231, supposedly Bilic's favourite formation, wouldn't that allow Harper to fit in:
                  Defence x 4
               Livermore Field
          Harper.           Edwards??
                  Krovanic
                   JRod???

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Under 23's/ Academy Thread
« on: July 06, 2019, 11:03:02 AM »
I can understand kids having heads turned given we aren't a top flight club and the likes of Man City, Barca and PSG knocking at the door.
What I can't stomach is having these kids from 6 / 7 years old , investing 10 years in them and then they do a runner . That simply isn't right whichever way you look at it and the peanuts we get in return . I'd be very tempted to scrap the academy for what it costs per year in all honesty unless the rules change .

I have had my son go through academy systems and believe me it is even more cut throat than your worst thoughts. There is no hesitation to get rid of a young player no matter how long they have been with you for - why should the kids owe anything to the club? They are one tackle away from their career being over.

If the chance comes to sort your family for life it would be impossible to turn down.

To describe it as then doing a runner is hard on the kids.

One of my lad's teammates did his ACL while under a two year scholarship at the same academy as my son. The club involved would not pay his wages while he went through the year of operation and rehab. They have started paying him again now he is fit - but what is the lad supposed to live on while in rehab?

There is no loyalty from the clubs - the lads are purely £ signs. I am disappointed Barry has gone but I don't blame him.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Under 23's/ Academy Thread
« on: July 06, 2019, 09:22:32 AM »
Some excellent posts here.

In a way, we are victims of our own success. We are producing top quality players who other clubs now covet.

Not easy to swallow when we lose the top top players like Barry and Rogers), but it shows the quality of the academy.

We should celebrate that we are producing the talent but know we will lose the top ones. Fulham are about to lose a top 16 year old to Liverpool by the way so it affects all of us, even Man City, who lose out to German clubs.

We could this year have Harper, Field, Edwards and Soule in our first team squad and all could play. To have potentially 20% of our first team generated by the academy is a huge money saving, even despite losing our two jewels.

As another positive, if lads can see that they could go to Man City or  Barcelona from little old WBA, isn't that a positive to join us in the first place. Personally feel that this fact is a major advert and reason to join our academy.

For every diamond we lose cheaply: Matt Smith, Dhanda, Brown, Barry, Rogers

We make or save money on: Berahino, Roberts, Edwards, Field, Harper, Tulloch, Roofe, Sawyers.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Under 23's/ Academy Thread
« on: July 06, 2019, 07:11:31 AM »
Morgan Rogers is going to Man City, just while we are on the topic of academy. Almost done deal.

Depressing to hear if that happens. Thought as wba fan he would stay but again money talks. System is a farce.

However, if it is a big fee there is the justification for the academy. Berahino's fee paid for seven years worth of the academy alone. Rodgers may well do the same.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Under 23's/ Academy Thread
« on: July 05, 2019, 09:28:28 PM »
I cannot believe the club is getting criticised.

Barry cannot sign a contract until the year he turns 17. Albion cannot pin him down and make him sign.

In all likelihood, he was going to stay until a few months ago when Barry was superb for England jn a European tournament and everyone wanted him. When Barcelona or PSG knock on the door what would you do.

We are talking astronomical contracts and signing on fees here. Albion simply cannot compete. Nor can our top six in this country - they all wanted him.

If your son could move to one of the top clubs in the world, be set financially for life, sort the family financially for life, what would you say to him?

The criticism of the club and Barry is just ridiculous because we would all do the same.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Under 23's/ Academy Thread
« on: July 05, 2019, 01:52:29 PM »
It's funny it's always us though isn't it? You never hear of Wolves or Villa kids going elsewhere.
When Peace was here both Odem and Bera both publicly criticised him, the fault has always been with the incentive those who run us give to the young players.
Oh by the way, the academy coach who developed Barry has buggered off to the Villa.

1. Villa and Wolves do lose players. Even Man City lost players to Dortmund
2. Barry was always leaving for a top European club. Not an English top 6 but one of the biggest world clubs. Just what could we offer to compete?

Money talks and if money clubs City lose out, well....

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Every manager is a risk when appointed. You are never too sure how it will work but slaven ticks many more boxes than Irvine, Big Dave, Pardew, etc.

Pulis did the job he was asked to do and ticked a lot of boxes at the time. Slaven ticks different boxes and maybe a few more.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Salomon Rondon
« on: June 25, 2019, 06:52:48 PM »
Thought Hugill was poor. A big lump with very little ability. No from me.

A poor lump who caused the Albion defence no end of problems?

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Salomon Rondon
« on: June 25, 2019, 03:44:03 PM »
EFL hub reporting West Ham have offered £10m, Byram and Hugil for Rondon.

Very impressed with Hugil against us for Boro last year. Perfect for Bilic' system plus he would know their abilities and character.

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