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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Back Pepe Mel
« on: April 30, 2014, 04:30:04 PM »
I am baffled that a petition has been started to keep him. Without being disrespectful what has he actually achieved? Too much of a wild card I think, and I am sure JP will see it that way too.


JP won't give a flying fig about what is lets be honest an absolutely ridiculous petition.


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General Football & Sports / Re: Anything England Football
« on: April 29, 2014, 08:10:25 PM »
B Foster
J Hart
J Ruddy

L Shaw
L Baines
G Johnson
J Flanaghan
G Cahill
P Jagielka
M Dawson
P Jones

S Gerard
M Carrick
A Johnson
J Henderson
A Lallana
A Oxlade-Chamberlain
J Wilshere
R Sterling

W Rooney
D Sturridge
A Carroll
D Welbeck




                                                        Hart


               Johnson           Jagielka                 Cahill                  Baines


                                       Gerard                  Henderson


              Stirling                               Rooney                            Lallana


                                                       Sturridge

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General Football & Sports / Re: Super Kevin Phillips
« on: April 28, 2014, 06:10:42 PM »
Kevin Phillips is what a footballer should be. He has always acted with professionalism and decency. Never once did he let anyone down not his team mates, not his managers, not his clubs' supporters.

Added to that he is a very, very good,  likable, well mannered and respectable human being.

Surely it is nigh on impossible to find anyone (except a moron) that has a bad word to say about the man.

How many people can you say that about?

If all footballers were like Phillips and all human beings were like Phillips, the game and the world would be far better for it.

I thank him for his contribution to West Bromwich Albion and to football in general and I wish him every success and happiness in the future.

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Albion Matchday Forum / Re: Predictions
« on: April 25, 2014, 02:35:39 PM »
I'm going to tip us to lose because sometimes when I do that we spring up with a surprise result. Every time I think we might win we make a mess of it.


Baggies 1-2 West Ham

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Same story next season?
« on: April 25, 2014, 12:38:47 AM »

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General Football & Sports / Re: Statistics in Football
« on: April 24, 2014, 10:18:07 PM »
I think individual player statistics can be very useful for coaches. They can tell you a lot about players, how good they are on the ball, their fitness levels, and how effective they are at doing the job they've been asked to do.

I think team statistics are a bit pointless. People can purr over Bayern having 70% of possession in any one game but much like Guardiola's previous club Barcelona at the top, top level they can become easier to play against because you know what you are going to get from them and you know you can defend the width of your penalty area and they will be susceptible to break aways.

When Guardiola first introduced his way of playing into Barce, the footballing world weren't used to it so it was effective. Nowadays the footballing world is used to it and although a lot of teams still won't be able to deal with it the top teams generally do better.

I look at Bayern now and i think they were more effective last season and Barce look fragmented, if you look at Messi even his body language isn't right.

I'm rambling on a bit here but my point is it is the end result what counts. A team having 17 shots to 5 means nothing if 15 of those shots are from obscure angles or 35 yards out.

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Albion Matchday Forum / Re: Team
« on: April 24, 2014, 10:02:47 PM »
As much as most refs have poor eyesight I think they will spot your deliberate mistake!


Ooooh, knowing referee's it's worth a try.  ;) I'll go with this team  8)

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Albion Matchday Forum / Re: After Match Debate
« on: April 23, 2014, 09:32:37 PM »
No we are not, we have had some bad times this season but we are far from the worst, I'd even go as far as saying we should be a couple of places higher right now.


If you read the rest of the thread I've actually stated since that I'd probably say Norwich and Fulham may be worse than us but at the moment that is it.

It's a matter of opinion, when i watch us now I see us declining IN MY OPINION and in two or three games time we could find ourselves bottom of a "last six game" league table. On the other hand a couple of good results could see us over half way.

People are entitled to opinions you know and they don't always have to be blindly positive. My opinion is that we are currently looking like one of the worst teams in the division. That is my opinion which I am entitled to just as you are entitled to yours.

Do you understand that?

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Albion Matchday Forum / Re: After Match Debate
« on: April 23, 2014, 09:28:06 PM »
I've seen a few people give Ridgewell and Brunt some real stick after this one, but the team as a whole simply isn't at City's level.

People are moaning about how Brunt and Ridgewell didn't track Zabaleta for the first, but the beloved Jonas Olsson didn't move either - the only player that covered back was Dawson, who some people remain unconvinced about. While the third was certainly Ridgewell's fault for not tracking his man, the second came from the other side of the pitch, so it wasn't all about those two.

Perhaps people would be happy to go back to the days of Graham Potter and Mark Angel down the left? They had bad games, but 1/10?


Why do people have to come out with silly and petulant comments at the end of a debate? I may not agree with all of your post but I respected your opinion until the last bit when you completely spoiled your post and came over as childish.

Because someone doesn't rate Ridgewell or Reid or Brunt or whoever, to suggest that anybody would prefer significantly lower level players is just silliness, it's the sort of stroppy response you's expect from a ten year old in a playground .

Conversely as some of our players arguably aren't good enough for the level the club is currently at that doesn't mean anyone expects us to go after Messi, Robben or Ronaldo but there are players that can improve the club.

Let's keep things in context shall we

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Moyes
« on: April 23, 2014, 12:56:49 AM »
Life under Hodgson weren't so bad was it? I'd rather a pragmatic approach and an organised team who can compete in the Premier League than the type of shambles we have now.

In order to build a team that can play attractive football and do OK in the top flight we would have to spend quite a lot of money and have a huge turnover of players within the squad. It just isn't going to happen - can you see Jeremy splashing that sort of cash. We need quite a few players replacing as it is and that is just adding to what we have. I'm sure Vydra won't be here next season - that leaves us three strikers short for a start after Anelka and long left. Strikers usually cost some money, if not on fees then on wages, whatever money we have to spend is going to go significantly in that area I should imagine.

Reid may well retire, Popov almost certainly won't be here that's another two we will have to replace.

In order to change our style of play we will need additions to midfield, central defenders that can play holding a high line and pace out wide.

Would I accept David Moyes? Certainly, I think that is the sort of manager we need right now. If we were going to change our style of play we needed to make different signings on the back of a strong and stable squad, we don't have that right now.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Graham Dorrans Joins Norwich City
« on: April 22, 2014, 02:57:17 AM »
Players predominantly at fault for first goal were Ridgewell for heading back infield when he should've headed out wide and Brunt for not tracking his runner. How anyone can blame Foster when the ball is blasted at him from about eight yards is beyond me, no keeper would've done any better.

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Albion Matchday Forum / Re: Ratings
« on: April 22, 2014, 02:45:35 AM »
Foster 7 - Did his bit. Left completely exposed by those in front of him.

Jones 7 - Ok. Been out for a while, won't be fully sharp for the rest of the season. Better than Reid.

Ridgewell 4 - Awful At fault for two goals and the amount of trouble caused down his flank is unreal. Needs replacing. Can't defend, little on the ball quality, no pace.

Dawson 6 - Doesn't look good enough for The Premiership as yet. Can't be easy for him coming into an unsolid team but I'm not convinced by him yet.

Olsson 8 - Our best defender. He wasn't perfect but with ridgewell and Dawson alongside him he has a lot of responsibilty on his shoulders. Did well.

Amalfitano 5 - Looked disinterested, didn't work hard enough and had little impact. Has lots of ability and would be a very good player in a better team. Sign him up and hopefully we'll see more consistency from him next season after we've brought in better players and organised the team. (Here's hoping).

Dorrans 7 - His goal was a real touch of class. Tried hard but let down by others on his team. Decent footballer, has a role to play.

Mulumbu 6 - Never hides but he's struggling to find the form of bygone days. Was at his best when used as a two man shield alongside Yacob. Like Amalfitano would be seen to better effect in a more organised and solid team.

Brunt 4 - Useless, might as well have stayed at home. I keep hearing about this "wand of a left foot" the trouble is we only see it to good effect once every couple of months. Needs moving on, I don't see a future for him at the Albion other than a bit part player.

Sessegnon 6 - Had his moments but not nearly enough. Has ability and is another player that would be better in a better team.

Vydra 5 - Not good enough. He'd struggle to trap a bag of cement. let him go at the end of the season.


SUBS:

Anichebe 7 - Did Ok, at least added some presence to our side. I can see a place for Anichebe but he needs the right players around him and he'd arguably be best in a 2 upfront alongside someone that can benefit from his presence.

Berahino 5 - ineffective. Has ability and could be a real star and suited by playing off someone like Anichebe. He is going to be no good to us though unless someone can shrink his head and get him to knuckle down. Someone need to point out Raheem Sterling to him. There is an example of a kid doing the right things and going the right way. Berahino needs to learn and quickly.

Morrison 5 - No real impact.

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Albion Matchday Forum / Re: After Match Debate
« on: April 21, 2014, 10:40:52 PM »


Sorry but you are outnumbered in your assessment of our head coach.


And?

The people who said Liverpool would win the league in August were outnumbered as well.

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Albion Matchday Forum / Re: After Match Debate
« on: April 21, 2014, 10:38:52 PM »
Well that's not how a league works fortunately for us. And being as we're 11th in the form table it suggests an upturn in our performance but you're entitled to your opinion I just disagree with it and think there's nothing to back it up  :P


The thing about a league table is (especially over only a few games) is that two results can change the complexion completely. I may have been slightly harsh I think Norwich and Fulham are probably worse than us on balance but that's about it.

The real concerning thing is we do not look like we are improving at all and we look so easy to play against.

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Albion Matchday Forum / Re: After Match Debate
« on: April 21, 2014, 10:32:57 PM »

Ha Ha worst team.Please dont go saturday.Pepe and the boys need all the support



Just because someone says it as it is on a messageboard doesn't mean they will go to the match and not support.  ::)

I'd rather say it as I see it rather than be blindly optimistic.

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Albion Matchday Forum / Re: After Match Debate
« on: April 21, 2014, 10:23:17 PM »
We're not bottom of the actual table and we're ok in the form table. Explain this?


We are getting progressively worse. If we started the season now and continued the way we are now we would end up bottom.

The clubs below us are at least showing some fight, we aren't.

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Albion Matchday Forum / Re: After Match Debate
« on: April 21, 2014, 10:16:35 PM »
http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/24681355


I didn't even click the link it means nothing. yes i know they've had big wins. They'd had big wins before Sunderland got a point against them as well and Chelsea were unbeaten at home until Sunderland went there as well.

We are currently THE WORST TEAM IN THE PREMIERSHIP. We need to scramble over the finishing line somehow.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Pepe Mel
« on: April 21, 2014, 10:12:38 PM »
Pep Mel has put no stamp on this team whatsoever if anything organisation wise we are getting worse. We need a manager who can organise and play to a system.

All this "Give Mel time", "Give him a chance" is just nonsense he's not what we need.

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Albion Matchday Forum / Re: After Match Debate
« on: April 21, 2014, 10:07:09 PM »
That was absolutely shocking, City can't have had a bigger stroll all season. Two goals in nine minutes then a second half of just keeping the ball whilst being put under no pressure at all.

We are about as solid as a floppy dick, so disorganised it's unreal. Ridgewell is shocking as is Vydra, Dawson isn't up to this level to name but three. Brunt was poor, Amalfitano strolled round most of the second half.

Pepe Mel is showing no signs of putting any sort of stamp on this team, he is not the right man for this job. to play the way he wants to play we'd have to invest the sort of money in the team we just don't have. We need a man that can organise the team and play to a system.

Mentions for Olsson, Foster, Dorrans and Anichebe all of who'm at least had a go tonight.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: We are going down.
« on: April 21, 2014, 03:54:53 PM »
This all makes sense for when the bookie is creating the book at the outset, but a sizeable bet on one horse forces him to re- balance the odds, which thereafter reflect what other bets he had taken, rather than just his calculation of the odds of the outcome.


Yes. If there is significant money for one horse the bookie will shorten his price. He may or may not lengthen another prices (s) depending on whether he wants to attract money on another horse.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: We are going down.
« on: April 21, 2014, 02:46:35 AM »

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: We are going down.
« on: April 20, 2014, 07:04:37 PM »
The good thing is, bookies are not often wrong, they don't give 8/1 easily, they clearly think we will stay up.


Bookies are wrong all the time why else are there 6/1, 7/1, 8/1, 16/1, 20/1 winners every day of the year?

It's just that statistically 92% of people will lose on betting in the long term because they don't know what they're doing.

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General Football & Sports / Re: Dingle watch - Anything Wolves
« on: April 20, 2014, 12:47:12 AM »
Got to admit though over 30,000 for a 3rd tier match is impressive, especially considering there are some club in the Premier League who struggle to get 25,000 even when up near the top 6. It would be pretty embarrassing to support one of those tinpot clubs.

They've won in a very tough division this year and the abnormally high points near the top show that. It's a very strong young team they have and a top half Championship finish is pretty much guaranteed. Wouldn't be surprised if they go higher.


Not particularly. It's a bit embarrassing to be in that league to begin with.

Wolves are a truly massive club though right up there with Barce and Man U.



 ::)


Go bore somewhere else. You lot might be obsessed with us but to us you lot ain't really relevant.

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General Football & Sports / Re: OFFICIAL PREMIER LEAGUE THREAD
« on: April 20, 2014, 12:10:28 AM »
Makes me laugh when Mourinho has a go about referee's. Ha ha he wants to try managing one of the "smaller" clubs. He wasn't crying when we they got the ridiculous penalty last minute against us.

He needs to grow up instead of behaving like a spoilt child.

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Albion Matchday Forum / Re: Man City Away 21st April
« on: April 18, 2014, 10:03:11 PM »
Well yeah, each to their own. But if you were that unhappy about the ticket price you wouldn't pay it and refuse to go. I just feel that paying for it sort of nullifies your argument really.


Of course it does.

Fans: "That price is a disgrace"
Club: "Such a disgrace that you will not pay it?"
Fans: "Er, no"
Club: "Tough then" (laughing)

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