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General Football & Sports / Re: VAR
« on: Yesterday at 09:53:57 AM »
To be honest Atomic looking at it again i thought it was more ball to hand. Pep managed to get away with his sarcastic 'Thank you so much' comments to the officials.

Well there you have it Gerry we disagree and if we disagree then you are always going to find officials that disagree unless you have a clear black and white situation i.e. hits a hand / arm it's handball no matter what. If you go down that route you open up more cans of worms (player deliberately kicks ball at hand from a yard etc) .....

So again what is the point?

General Football & Sports / Re: VAR
« on: Yesterday at 09:00:36 AM »
VAR is crap isn't it? Lets be honest about it it's rubbish.

It was introduced to be fair to ensure the big decisions were right but officials are still getting them wrong even after closer inspection. No-one can convince me the Alexander-Arnold handball was not handball. If that was an Albion player at Anfield that would be given every single time.

The rules are still open to abuse / interpretation so I really don't see the point in VAR.

It should be scrapped and the people that brought it in should admit defeat but they won't because a) the money spent on it and b) because they will be too arrogant to go back on it now.

VAR will be here to stay and instead of improving the game it will go on making it worse. When teams can't celebrate scoring a goal it is drastically wrong.

Eleven days till matchday. I hate international breaks  >:(.

Last season:

Attendance: 26,548 (Season highest)
Home: 23,828
Away: 2,720


Smethwick End:       2
West Stand:            200
Birmingham Road:   1124
East Stand:             871

Remaining: 2,197
Sold: 21,300 approx.

Last season this fixture was played over the festive period and saw our highest gate of the season. This season due to the fact we've cut the working capacity it's not possible to match last seasons attendance. 

There is no question of Sheffield Wednesday not selling their tickets and I fully expect Albion areas to be extremely close to selling out, I'd be amazed if they weren't.

A crowd hundreds in excess of 25,000 looks nailed on.

Get ready for Wednesday's support. IMO they are the best set of away fans in the country, the volume of noise they create is seriously impressive.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Gareth Barry
« on: November 11, 2019, 11:00:33 PM »
We already have to change the two CM's why would we want to break up another area of the team at the same time? That's asking for trouble.

Next Match Forum - 23/11 Sheffield Wednesday (H) / Re: Pre Match Chat
« on: November 11, 2019, 08:49:05 AM »
Bilic has already said that Barry needs PL2 games before he's ready. There's no way he will play.

Next Match Forum - 23/11 Sheffield Wednesday (H) / Re: Pre Match Chat
« on: November 11, 2019, 08:12:20 AM »
I suspect he will go for Krovinovic and Brunt in midfield but I hope Harper is on the bench and gets a game

I expect he will go with Brunt and Krovinovic as well. I wouldn't be surprised if we tinker slightly though and play Brunt behind a four of Phillips, Pereira, Krovinovic and Diangana.

Last Match Forum - 09/11 Hull City (A) / Re: After Match Debate
« on: November 11, 2019, 08:09:36 AM »
Given their current form that was the best result of the season IMO. Everybody played well except Phillips and Diangana who had their moments but were decidedly average with their output. Krovinovic was superb when he came on dictated the possession and completely took the sting out of Hull.

Livermore was fantastic, thought he won a lot of second balls and probably delivered his best performance for the club.

Last Match Forum - 04/11 Stoke City (A) / Re: After Match Debate
« on: November 04, 2019, 10:14:40 PM »
Professional and decent performance overall. Middle part of it (second half of first half and first half of second) not great, not clinical enough and a bit sloppy on the ball. First fifteen minutes and last half an hour, excellent.

Romaine Sawyers might not be the quickest and he's poor defensively but his ability on the ball is exceptional at this level, he was on a different plane tonight.

Krovinovic came on started to keep possession when it was needed. Kanu great impact again.

We're still short up front though, we've been keeping faith with Charlie but he's not doing enough at the moment. 

General Football & Sports / Re: OFFICIAL PREMIER LEAGUE THREAD
« on: November 04, 2019, 09:39:45 AM »
Never a red card for Son. What with that and VAR refs are making things up as they go along at the moment. VAR is an absolute mess. I'm glad we don't have it in the Championship.

General Football & Sports / Re: Seals watch - Anything Villa
« on: November 02, 2019, 05:04:42 PM »
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Scousers shafted them late on today. Shame isn't it?  ;D

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Gareth Barry
« on: October 31, 2019, 04:12:35 PM »
If we're bothering doing this it's straight into the team in place of Livermore for me.

Jacko the guy is 38 years old and had no football for months, he's going to need a few PL2 games before he gets anywhere near the first team. Even then he will be used sparingly.

Last Match Forum - 04/11 Stoke City (A) / Re: Pre Match Chat
« on: October 31, 2019, 10:45:39 AM »
Yes, I think there is an amnesty just before or early in the new year

I think it's after nineteen games.

Last Match Forum - 04/11 Stoke City (A) / Re: Pre Match Chat
« on: October 30, 2019, 05:48:57 PM »
Unless I’ve missed him in your line up, no Austin? Is he injured?

Not that I know of. For me he is offering very little up front and Zohore is quicker so may stop teams playing a high line and condensing the midfield which gives Pereira less room to operate. I didn't put Austin on the bench because it's either him or Robson-Kanu and HRK can have an impact off the bench. The other players on the bench are needed for positional cover.

Last Match Forum - 04/11 Stoke City (A) / Re: Pre Match Chat
« on: October 30, 2019, 05:18:50 PM »
The West Brom players who are at risk of a suspension at Stoke City

Source: https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/west-brom-players-who-risk-17172721

Don’t know what advice to give those under threat than go and play your natural game.

That's all you can do. It's inevitable that we will pick up the odd suspension and that's what we have a squad for.

This is the team I'd go with:


Furlong             Ajayi                          Hegazi              Townsend

                        Livermore                   Sawyers

Phillips                           Pereira                                  Diangana


Subs: Bond, Fitzwater, Bartley, Brunt, Krovinovic, Edwards, Robson-Kanu.

With Ferguson suspended we have no cover for Furlong at right back and I'm struggling to see who could fill in there. Jack Fitzwater played at RB for the U23's on Monday night, I wouldn't be at all surprised to see him on the bench on Monday. Brunty can cover at left back if absolutely necessary.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Under 23's/ Academy Thread
« on: October 29, 2019, 03:17:58 PM »
Where did Edwards play then mate?
Sounds like Ken has staked a claim for Monday which is good to hear.

Edwards played wide left - the Diangana position.

Lads there is no way Ajayi is going to move into midfield and rightly so. I do wish people would get that idea out of their heads. The way we play we are reliant on his pace at the back. Ajayi was brought into the club to play centre back and that's where he will stay.

As Pulis proved it's easy to win 1-0 by way of corners until you're sussed.  What's exciting about this team is the opposition doesn't know where danger is coming from.

Sawyers is not a great defensive player but his ability to turn with the ball and shield it stands out from last season when the midfielders couldn't get rid of it quickly enough.  Usually their haste gave the ball away and continually put the pressure back on the defence.   Sawyers's pass completion might not look the best but he is making more ambitious, forward passes.. 

Bartley would be OK at right-sided CB but Hegazi should be brought in at left CB  but when he's ready.  We don't know his condition: he may be rusty or even still moving gingerly on his operated ankle.  When he can return then I suppose Slav could move Bartley right one position and try Ajayi as defensive midfielder.

Myself I would discard Austin ( Lambert mark 2) and Zohore and put Phillips at centre forward.  This would enable us to field 2 nippy and tricky wingers  (Edwards and Diangana).

We need to have the adaptability to switch between systems during a match (e.g. 4-3-3 when swamped and then 4-2-3-1 when the pressing  tires.)

Whatever happens, I think it's an improvement on last season when I felt that if we went a goal down in the second half there would be no way back with our limited capability and tactics up front.

Saw him last night he's absolutely fine. He was a bit rusty with a couple of passes first half, which you'd expect after a lay off but other than that he was absolutely faultless. One thing both he and Ajayi give you is an ability to defend one on one which Hegazi demonstrated more than once last night. He's a rolls royce and whilst I admire to an extent Slaven's loyalty to his players, Hegazi simply has to partner Ajayi at the back.

Sorry but a few have said it now, that it's the sacrifice for decent football.

Just not true.

There is a massive chasm of possibilities between grinding out 1 nil wins and conceding 2 goals every home game. They are not a binary choice.

I'm glad you wrote this because it saves me a job.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Under 23's/ Academy Thread
« on: October 28, 2019, 09:43:43 PM »
Did Willock feature mate?

Yeah, played wide right. Did OK, looked lively at times particularly first half. Subbed late on for Clayton-Phillips.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Under 23's/ Academy Thread
« on: October 28, 2019, 09:19:53 PM »
Won 2-0, big Ken grabbing a brace. Three disallowed first half for offside. Kyle Edwards was superb, their right back will be having nightmares tonight. Hegazi and O'Shea solid at the back, can't think of a worthwhile chance Swansea had. Rekeem Harper showed a bit more spark as well. It was a good evening but bloody cold.

Albion Matchday Forum / Re: After Match Debate
« on: October 28, 2019, 05:30:03 PM »
The handball was on the wrong side for the ref to see, it's not like he let us off with that, he just didn't see it.

He should've seen it. If you look where the referee is he's not far away from HRK and "on the wrong side" or not he should've seen it. Even if he didn't he has an assistant who wasn't far from where I was and I saw it clear as day. 

The ref was crap but it's not his fault we didn't win that game.

Albion Matchday Forum / Re: After Match Debate
« on: October 28, 2019, 05:14:44 PM »
Looks like a clear penalty to me.

Me too.

People are going way overboard about the ref. No he wasn't much good but he didn't cost us at all, he allowed Robson-Kanu's goal when it was a clear handball. The real reason we didn't win the game is we didn't take one of three golden chances at the start of the second half which would've put us 2-0 up.

Bilic made a huge mistake yesterday in not picking Hegazi. I accept that Bartley actually had a good game yesterday but one swallow doesn't make a summer. Quality and consistency wins you leagues / gets you promoted. We have evidence over 46 games last season and the opening dozen or so games this season that Bartley isn't consistently good enough. We conceded two goals again against Barnsley, yesterday was ideal time to re-introduce Hegazi, Slaven, for me, bottled it. If he / anyone else thinks we can keep conceding the number of goals we do and get promoted I'm afraid they are wrong, it won't happen.

Gibbs isn't the answer at left back, defensively he's terrible. He may be decent on the ball but we have to become more solid, Gibbs won't help us in that regard.

Last Match Forum - 04/11 Stoke City (A) / Re: Pre Match Chat
« on: October 27, 2019, 10:23:04 AM »
Surely 3, it wasn’t a last man situation, it was a bad tackle. No excuses here, we have to be putting in a good performance otherwise we will be out of the top 2 and letting this slip away.

Were not yet in November, I wouldn't be getting too carried away with whether we are top two or not.

Albion Matchday Forum / Re: After Match Debate
« on: October 26, 2019, 06:59:51 PM »
I thought we were poor first half. Our individual ball retention was really poor from Austin, Diangana and Pereira which left the midfield two exposed time and again. We were lucky to go in 1-0 up, Charlton really should've scored.

Start of the second half we were excellent but oh so wasteful. Phillips should've scored, Furlong should have dinked the keeper and acored and Diangana certainly should've scored, sitter! Take one of those chances and it's 2-0 and we almost certainly go on and win the game. Ultimately it's those missed chances that have cost us most.

Ferguson red card - I was literally right behind that- no complaints, as soon as he lunged in I expected a red card.

Bit unlucky with the equaliser the ball could have gone anywhere from the block but just happened to go right up in the air and land on their lads head.

Kanu goal should've been chalked out for handball, again I had a perfect view of it.

Penalty looked soft to me but I haven't seen a replay.

Two goals conceded at home AGAIN! This has to stop and we need to take our chances when we're on top in games.

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