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Last Match Forum - 27/11 Bristol City (H) / Re: Pre Match Chat
« on: November 27, 2019, 07:43:02 PM »
Loved that side pure class throughout the team and the football sublime at times.

Probably one of the best Albion performances I ever saw was Albion 3 - Bristol City 0.....boxing day 1979. It may as well have been 13 - 0. We were magnificent.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Grady Diangana (on loan from West Ham)
« on: October 20, 2019, 05:06:43 PM »
I’ve thought long and hard about posting this comment, because the guy I’m comparing him to was the best I’ve seen in an Albion shirt in over 60 years of supporting Albion.

The last time I saw a player in an Albion shirt with such quick feet, trickery, ability to get past a player and ghost into attacking positions was the late great Laurie Cunningham.

This kid is good, real good

I did think the same myself, but on reflection I think Laurie was a touch quicker and stronger....not much in it though! Would love to see Laurie playing now on modern pitches with better protection from referees!

Albion Matchday Forum / Re: Ejected for wearing away shirt
« on: October 10, 2019, 02:07:23 PM »
What a prat. Lucky for him most albion fans are a bit more laid back and tolerant than some...he'd have lasted about 30 seconds at St. Andrews before losing a couple of teeth.

Best we've had since Koumas. He's why I love football. What a change following Pulisball!

Albion Matchday Forum / Re: In Game Chat
« on: October 05, 2019, 03:24:09 PM »
Just bloody well buy the bloke on Monday morning!!

At £10m Pereira could prove to be a snip. He is hugely talented.

Buy the bloke immediately.....before the likes of Liverpool come sniffing around.

Albion Matchday Forum / Re: After Match Debate
« on: September 28, 2019, 02:48:53 PM »
Only watched the 2nd half. Incredible league winning stuff.

Beat Leeds on Tuesday and its on!

The only decent player Atkinson bought was Batson, he inherited a very very good side that Giles, Allen and to some extent Howe had built.
The other signings he made Deehan, Miils, (he broke the British transfer record for him) Barnes, and Owen weren't as good as the players he let go.
Under his watch we lost Cantello, Cunningham, and he took Robson and Moses to United with him and also wanted Regis and Statham.
The bloke was all himself like Peace was, i hate him with a passion.
Ronnie Allen should have been given a contract in his first term here, he could spot a player, and he wouldn't have left here except in a box.

Yes....Giles established a lot of that team, and let Robson off the leash at 17 (unlikely to happen nowadays). Fantastic days. Anyway...the green and yellow stripes are pretty much recognised as ours I'd have thought...but I think it should only be a 'change' kit in the event of a clash.

I love to see it when we have a big away following in nice weather and everyone's wearing a right mish-mash of home or away kits from all manner of era's. My favourite shirt for matches is my 1954 replica! (Nice and warm). Think it makes us unique and something we should be proud of.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: System tactics personnel
« on: August 17, 2019, 11:26:15 AM »
After a couple of frustrating performances against Millwall there are some interesting debates about various combinations and possibilities within the squad on the matchday forums and individual player threads. Given that we have at least 2 credible choices in every position then there are plenty of options for Bilic to consider.

The problem against Millwall was a lack of penetration against a well drilled side who set up to stifle our forwards. Looking at the League game we had 78% possession but managed just 11 shots which is way too low given that level of possession. It gets worse in that most of the shots were from outside the box and the total expected goals they generated was 0.9. Aside from the Zohore shot which given that there were 10 others probably wasn't more than 0.5 exG there were very few clear cut chances that went begging.

Many were quick to blame Zohore and in truth he did not have a good game although that was not because of the one chance he did not take but the lack of involvement in a game that was largely played out in the opposition half. However goal scoring is not just about the forwards it is about the number of shooting opportunities that at team generates. Taking the extreme example of Man City they create a huge number of high quality chances and as such any half competent professional striker would score goals for them. If you doubt me let me submit exhibit 1 Iheanacho, I rest my case.

What is the issue is it tactics or personnel? Maybe a little of both and the issue of a new team gelling.

Looking at the personnel you could easily argue that Austin is an obvious upgrade on Zohore but that isn't the whole solution unless you can argue that Austin takes the Zohore chance nearly 100% of the time which is wishful thinking. We needed to create more chances and that falls on the shoulders of the 3 playing behind the lone striker. Incidentally, these positions regardless of who is in them also need to probably chip in with between 30 and 40 goals across the season.

There is some criticism of Krovinovic and a debate about whether he and Sawyers can play in the same team. On Saturday he needed to play further forward too much of his work happened 30 to 40 yards from goal but equally those playing with him should have been giving him better passing options while Zohore was the main culprit here both Edwards and Phillips could have done a little better in this respect. Some of this is just a team getting used to playing with each other but  it is about having the footballing intelligence to anticipate rather than react I have my doubts about Phillips in this regard but that is a relatively small issue at the moment.

A key advantage of Krovinovic working 5 to 10 yards further forward is that it brings him into shooting range as demonstrated by the disallowed goal. I am not expecting him to score too frequently from that range but the fact there is a shot threat forces the opposition defenders to come out of their shape without it they can just block off the passing lanes. I would also suggest that this applies to Edwards and Phillips a few more pot shots from distance would have started to sow the seeds of doubt among the Millwall back line.

I have seen the suggestion that we go "full Mowbray" and do without a DM in the double pivot. I think this is a possibility against a team like Millwall who defend deep. In possession (78% of the time) drop Ferguson into a back 3. Use Gibbs as auxiliary winger and play Pereira/Diangana/Willock as a slightly withdrawn striker behind Austin /Zohore.

Finally the one combination that I don't think works is Edwards and Phillips in the wide roles the absence of a natural left footer does nothing for the teams balance of the team and Bilic needs to choose one or the other and give Pereira or Diagana the opposite flank.

All that said I remain optimistic about the season and would stress that these observations are largely based on our struggles against a deep block and for instance Luton today won't present the same challenge,

Interesting and thought provoking comments....I just wonder if Edwards could occupy more of a central No.10 type role and have Diangana out wide?

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Kenneth Zohore joins WBA
« on: August 12, 2019, 01:26:18 PM »
I am not defending him as any striker should have buried that chance. However having a keeper and a defender on the line isn’t an open goal.

Agree. Seen far worse misses than that. Hit it first time and kept it low and on target (although I'd have fancied my chances too)!  :D  Lets cut him some slack and see how he does when he reaches full match fitness.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Chris Willock (on loan from Benfica)
« on: August 11, 2019, 12:08:11 PM »
I'd like to see Austin and Willock up front together for 45 minutes on Tuesday....lets see how they get on?

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Squad
« on: August 08, 2019, 06:08:07 PM »
I cannot remember being this excited about us for ages. Pace and talent with attacking intent in abundance...with a recognised experienced goal scorer for when it really matters. COYB!!

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Director of Football
« on: August 08, 2019, 06:02:00 PM »
Very well done, Mr Dowling and team. Given the financial constraints imposed by Messrs Lai, and Jenkins, you have done a very good job of overhauling our squad, and I look forward very much to seeing Albion play a completely new brand of football to that which we have seen in recent seasons.

Spot on! I cant wait to spend more time standing up than sitting down....come on you baggies!

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Semi Ajayi joins WBA
« on: July 20, 2019, 12:34:51 PM »
Very encouraged by the business to rebuild so far. A lot of clubs, not that much better off than us, are spending eye-watering sums of money (they probably haven't got) on bang average footballers, and are now at risk of very serious financial problems if they don't work out. We need to be sensible about where we are in the pecking order....and its spot on for me so far. Well done to all concerned.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Kenneth Zohore
« on: July 18, 2019, 08:29:55 AM »
Surely its as much to do with the quality of the supplies to the strikers? That's where we should be concentrating our efforts more IMO. Our attacking approach since the disaster that was Pulis has been largely slow and poor (with the exception of Barnes).

This lad could well be OK given the right sort of chances...surely?

That's how I feel - the proof is in the pudding eh.....?

Quite so. We need a complete rebuild in the midfield, with an attack-minded 'no.10' as a priority. Not to mention full backs and strikers!!. I hope the board have backed Bilic with the funds.

Acquiring the services of Gayle again is a no brainer for me. Bilic has a very poor squad to deal with at the moment, the worst I've known for a long time. Doubt very much we'd have got remotely close to the play-offs without Gayle and Barnes.

I hope the charisma and contacts of Bilic can attract more loan players of the same calibre, otherwise its going to be tough.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: System tactics personnel
« on: June 13, 2019, 03:43:46 PM »
I thought it would be worth revisiting this now we have a new Head Coach. Bilic has regularly played a 4231 throughout his career so here is what we currently have left fitting into this system:






I have included those out on loan like Rondon and Nyom. A cursory look at the squad list above shows that we are short of numbers in the central midfield areas. Obviously there are the likely departures of Rondon, Harper and others. Let's say the following players leave: Nyom, Harper, Rondon and Rodriguez (that may be conservative), our best XI would look like this:






Looking at that we would need a starting right back, an upgrade in the defensive midfield department or certainly more options, a central attacking midfielder and a starting striker.

Dear God! I was elated I'm depressed again. :o

Great. Lets hope he can instil a lot more urgency about the place and kick a few butts. Been far too much 'old-pals' stuff going on recently.
Looking forward to not being bored senseless by backwards and sideways football!

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Next manager...
« on: June 07, 2019, 10:13:17 AM »

The Perce has spoken! Whoever said Bilic was at the training ground yesterday was correct.

Sounds promising. Hopefully, he'll be given funds to recruit young attack-minded midfielders with fire in their bellies....what we've been lacking for three years or more IMO.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Next manager...
« on: May 23, 2019, 10:26:39 AM »
What's the betting that we wont know who the manager is until a week before the season starts. :o

Ha Ha Yes! When it will be confirmed as Shan! ;D

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Next manager...
« on: May 20, 2019, 06:59:31 PM »
All very under whelming and uninspiring. Very worried about the next 3 to 4 seasons.... :'(

Albion Matchday Forum / Re: In Game Chat
« on: May 11, 2019, 02:20:58 PM »
Idiot. Season over. :(

Albion Matchday Forum / Re: In Game Chat
« on: May 11, 2019, 02:18:52 PM »
Why is our midfield so deep?

Our complete lack of a meaningful midfield has been our biggest problem for three the chickens have come home to roost.

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