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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Hal Robson-Kanu
« on: February 02, 2021, 11:34:32 PM »
Settle up the wages on the reminder of his contract now shake his hand and show him the exit door.  Complete waste of time.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Karlan Grant Signs
« on: February 02, 2021, 11:33:08 PM »
But we have enough resources at our disposal to not play Grant for the rest of the season!

If Allardyce selects him then what else can you say?

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Sam Allardyce
« on: February 02, 2021, 11:30:23 PM »
Allardyce so far has failed to adapt his methods and be flexible with the resources at his disposal.

The fans have been more than patient, in effect intimating the crushing defeats were down to poor quality players.

Well now Dowling has signed 4 good quality recruits there is no hiding place any longer.  He should be able to get back to at least what Bilic achieved in terms of results and performances.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Sam Allardyce
« on: February 02, 2021, 11:24:32 PM »
What's wrong with us going to Spurs, playing all our better players and going at them, they aren't that good, they're missing Kane which is at least 30% of their team.

Tonight was just a mystery why Allardyce selected that team and played that way with 30% possession against a team that's bottom.

I dont mind us losing, I want to see us having a go with all our best players on the pitch and in the right positions.  Then we look ourselves in the mirror and say we have done all we can.

Tonight WBA fans have been cheated with that "performance".


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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Sam Allardyce
« on: February 02, 2021, 10:53:18 PM »
Allardyce has Sundays game to play his best midfield of Maitand-Niles, Okay, Gallagher, Diangana, Pereira.

Although tonight is immensely frustrating, he has the saving grace of players only being signed yesterday.

If we see the likes of Livermore, Phillips, Sawyers, Grant again then we aren't even getting to 20pts and I'll be calling for him to be sacked........

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Sam Allardyce
« on: February 02, 2021, 10:48:00 PM »

That selection of the team as a whole not an individual. Bilic played them both together.

Bilic had to deploy 1 of Livermore or Sawyers to play with Gallagher, there was no one else.

Nothing was ever bad as playing Livermore and Snodgrass together in midfield, combined age 65. 

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Sam Allardyce
« on: February 02, 2021, 10:39:50 PM »
He definitely got it wrong tonight. Was a baffling selection, Bilic-esque.

when did Bilic ever prefer Livermore over Gallagher? 

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Sam Allardyce
« on: February 02, 2021, 10:34:16 PM »
I am so annoyed with Allardyce on tonight.  I've tried to swallow my disappointment at Bilic leaving and have tried to get behind him. 

It's not just losing, as you can lose unluckily.  It's the style of play.

1) How on earth can you bench Gallagher and play Livermore?  Gallagher is head and shoulders above him.
2) What has Phillips down to warrant starting?  People moaned at Bilic giving him just 10mins.
3) Pereira on the wing?  Everyone knows he's at his most dangerous in the "hole".
4) Subs of Grant and HRK, why?  What threat do they offer?
5) Where are Diangana and Grosicki?  They are our most talented wingers.

In mitigation Maitland-Niles and Yokuslu have only just been signed.  If they don't start at Spurs then I've just lost the final shred of respect I have for him.

What exactly has he been doing for the last 6 weeks?  Why hadn't he figured out who the weakest players are?

Possession levels 15% lower than previous Manager.

Why are we playing defensive dour football when we need 3point wins to stay up not 1point draws. 

The man is looking every bit as bad as Pulis ever was.



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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Karlan Grant Signs
« on: February 02, 2021, 10:14:58 PM »
A signing on the scale of Burke at £15m or Livermore at £11m.  Take your pick on which one was worse Burke, Livermore or Grant.

Flog him for £2m in May, he's no good.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Jake Livermore
« on: February 02, 2021, 10:08:11 PM »
I wish we could rip up his contract now

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Albion Matchday Forum / Re: In Game Chat
« on: February 02, 2021, 07:16:38 PM »
28% against the only team lower in the table!

What is Allardyce playing at selecting Livermore ahead of Gallagher?

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Albion Matchday Forum / Re: Team
« on: February 02, 2021, 05:33:05 PM »
If we play badly in this game then this is on Allardyce.  Phillips and Livermore, just why?

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Albion Matchday Forum / Re: After Match Debate
« on: January 31, 2021, 09:05:33 PM »
The first half was pathetic. The first 25 mins of the second half we improved but once we'd scored we stopped doing the pressing from the front and allowed Fulham back in the game.
1st half Gibbs was by far the worst player, got sucked into the middle and unaware of Decordova-Reid behind him for the goal, then it happens again but thankfully Decordova -Reid hit the posts...nearly happened again later in the half when Ajayi (I think) and Gibbs got in each others way allowing another shot on target. Townsend has to come in when fit.

Gallagher was dreadful all game, easily worse than Livermore who didn't really do anything wrong but didn't do much at all, closed down and tried to help out the back four but isn't good enough. Snodgrass looked lost first half too but improved second half. A central midfield of Okay and Snodgrass should be the way to go.

Second half we were much better, felt sorry for Robinson being hooked but Diagne looked reasonable and created the kind of problems we need our strikers to cause. Good ball in for Pereira's goal.

Why didn't Grant just gamble on the ball coming across the box from Bartley's second attempt...an easy tap in if he had?

Sadly in the second half we weren't as good as Fulham had been in the first half and they weren't as bad as we'd been.


Gallagher worse than Livermore?  No way.  Agreed Gallagher was poor by his high standards, but at least he can get round the pitch and get involved.  Livermore is half a yard behind the play all the time.  We need Gallagher's energy, Snodgrass is not quick enough for CM

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Luke Dowling
« on: January 31, 2021, 07:56:57 PM »
I can't really recall anyone on here or Twitter suggesting Bilic was the man responsible for all of our transfer activity last summer in the same way you are of Allardyce this month.

What there has been in the "post mortem" of our summer activity is an acknowledgement of which areas Bilic did have an influence of. We know that Bilic asked Dowling/the club to prioritise making a number of last season's loan deals permanent (source - Slaven Bilic himself). We know Bilic wanted Branislav Ivanovic (source - Slaven Bilic himself). We also have the suggestion from a number of reliable local journalists that Bilic;

A, Dug his heels in as the transfer window went on to get Grant over the line rather than moving on to other targets (we can't be 100% sure if this is a fact as I can't recall Bilic saying much in the press but the patch journos have heard it from somewhere).

B, Did not feel that Defensive midfield, full back or goalkeeper were as high priority as other areas. Again, we can't know if this is true for sure, but the fact the local journo's predictions came true and we didn't improve on these areas lends weight to their statements. If it was true, Bilic was proven right about the goal keeper but half of this forum has defensive mid as their highest priority and I'd argue they have all been proven correct over the first half of this season.

That however doesn't make Bilic fully responsible. Luke Dowling is his boss and Dowling signed off on any decisions Bilic got his own way on. Dowling's decisions will also have had an impact on Bilic's decisions, with the best example being Dowling's purchase of Cedric Kipre because he came available at a good price, despite the fact he probably wasn't what we needed and the knock on was that Bilic then ended up asking for Ivanovic meaning 2 bad signings rather than us getting 1 good one.

The way I see it, there are areas that are the clubs responsibility (Dowling's) or both Dowling & Bilic. There are none that are solely Bilic.


So what exactly was Bilic sacked for, if the responsibility for player recruitment rests with Dowling?  In essence you're only calling out the Manager for poor tactics, formations, bad results?

The budget we are operating with is basically the lowest in the Division, therefore we should be expected to finish bottom, so currently we are exceeding expectations!

I watched Lorient beat PSG today 3-2, I bet their players are on £10,000 per week max.  Shame we haven't recruited from clubs like this.

As regards vouching for defensive midfield reinforcements, I've been very vocal about it from the start.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Luke Dowling
« on: January 31, 2021, 02:37:12 PM »
I’m sorry if I come across rude mate, but how many times do you need to be told by different posters just how the football club works in terms of transfers?

The fact you are still saying Allardyce has failed in the market bringing players in when it’s been said again and again that’s not the way it works.


Sorry Mate!

In that case target the other posters also having a pop at Bilic for signings made last Summer.

No good trying to just single out myself.


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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Luke Dowling
« on: January 31, 2021, 11:55:03 AM »
I think you are viewing the role of the head coach in the same way it was in the 1990's and early 2000's and misunderstanding the clubs set up.

Below is a link about Villa's version of Luke Dowling - sporting director Johan Lange.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/worldfootballindex.com/2020/08/johan-lange-who-is-aston-villas-new-sporting-director/amp/

Here's a video of Luke Dowling (with added chair poses 😂) explaining his old role of head of recruitment at former clubs - similar to what he does here but now his role also incorporates other areas of responsibility as well.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Zyq4I8CU3Fk

Finally, below is a write up of the sporting directors working in the premier league a few years ago.

https://www.90min.com/posts/6272660-profiling-all-15-directors-of-football-in-the-premier-league


Sam Allardyce is the head coach. He doesn't have the old Alex Ferguson or Gary Megson role of picking the team AND managing scouting and recruitment - he is purely in charge of on pitch affairs. He will have an influence on who we sign and may also make the odd phone call to his agent mates, but he has himself said only this week "I don't know what's happening with Ahmed Musa, Luke Dowling deals with that".

I have heard countless people on here blame Bilic for poor Summer signings such as Grant, Ivanovic, Diangana, Kipre etc.  So in reality every failed transfer is the fault of Luke Dowling and not the Manager.

I fail to see why Dowling has more influence over signings than the Manager.  The Manager is the expert, not Dowling.

I suppose its Dowling fault over Allardyce for the selection of Livermore, Sawyers, Grant, HRK, Furlong, Gibbs over the last few weeks!

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Jake Livermore
« on: January 31, 2021, 11:48:15 AM »
Who else would you choose?

The central midfield options are abysmal.

As I have said in other messages he could've bought a CM from league 1 level or higher for a nominal fee that would've done a better job.

Picking Livermore & Sawyers has cost us points and our FA Cup place.

Everyone naturally points to our Defence.  We have the most Defensive Clearances and Goal Line Blocks in the league, so while we could get better defenders, Livermore is one of the worst midfielders in Premier League history.,witg Sawyers not far behind.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Luke Dowling
« on: January 31, 2021, 03:37:41 AM »
How does Luke Dowling have knowledge of football players that's superior to the actual WBA Manager?

Someone like Allardyce has been in football all of his life as a Player and Manager, he is 66 years old!

The Manager should not be reliant on Dowling for advice on actual signings.

He really is just a link man between Manager and Board, and this is required because many of the board are Chinese and living over there.

If we look at Bilic, then promotion was secured on 22nd July.  In less than 2 months we were starting the EPL season.  Many players were signed with the aim of getting out the Championship.  However, I accept he was too loyal to some namely Sawyers, Livermore, HRK, Austin etc.

If we look at Allardyce, he has picked some of the weakest players continually (Livermore, Sawyers, Grant, HRK).  Why haven't low cost signings been made earlier in January?



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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Jake Livermore
« on: January 31, 2021, 01:48:49 AM »
So it begs the question why is Allardyce still playing Livermore after 6 weeks at the helm?

It surely would've been straight forward to acquire a cheap CM in early January and still go after another quality CM in late January?

He is just awful, offers nothing, contributes greatly to a terrible defensive record.


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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Luke Dowling
« on: January 30, 2021, 05:47:09 PM »
I'll say it again, Allardyce has had 30 days to get a CM better than Sawyers and Livermore and a striker better than Grant and HRK.

It really should be easy to better those players.  So what have we been hanging around for.  Loftus Cheek absolutely bossed Livermore and Grant quite frankly looks awful.

It's impossible to get 100% accuracy to transfers, even Sir Alex Ferguson made some bad errors.

Bilic is in the past, my concern is Allardyce has messed around picking Sawyers & Livermore when he should've had the awareness to replace them at the earliest opportunity.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Sam Allardyce
« on: January 30, 2021, 03:32:45 PM »
How.much longer do you wan to give Allardyce in this job?

The actual "football" we are playing has regressed than what we had under Bilic.

This match looks like a lower league v top flight FA Cup tie.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Kamil Grosicki
« on: January 28, 2021, 12:52:50 PM »
Grosicki is considerably better than Grant.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Sam Allardyce
« on: January 27, 2021, 04:30:59 PM »
Allardyce is the one pairing Sawyers & Livermore together.

Bilic did it very early on in the opening 3 or 4 games then never again once Gallagher was up to speed.

SA has chosen to loan Harper to BC and ignore the fit again Field.

He's still got enough options to leave out Sawyers / Livermore and has also had 27 days of the transfer window to address that area.

Bloody pointless signing a new striker if you've still got that midfield.

I'm really starting to question his judgement and whether he's over the hill as a Football Manager.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Sam Allardyce
« on: January 26, 2021, 10:35:25 PM »
Amazed anyone still thinks Allardyce does the deals tbh. He'd have had 7 or 8 in by now if it was up to him.

I don't buy this, even if Allardyce had have brought a player from the conference for a pittance, Dowling would've delivered on that front. 

Lee Hughes, Jamie Vardy, Charlie Austin, plus countless others were all picked up from non-league.

Allardyce hasn't gone outside the box or shown any creativity here.  The blokes SA have gone for are clearly outside our budget.

We've basically done zilch for 18 days, that is just putting 2 fingers to the fan base and saying we don't give a monkeys

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Sam Allardyce
« on: January 26, 2021, 10:25:59 PM »
I don't understand why Allardyce hasn't brought in 4 or 5 players already.  These players are absolutely shot mentally not even looking at ability.  They are carrying huge scars from the recent poundings.

Allardyce has been lazy in recruitment.  There are hundreds of thousands of footballers out there.  To actually wait 26 days of the transfer window and do nothing in the last 18 days is just negligence.  Snodgrass was signed on 8th Jan!

To actually play Sawyers & Livermore and not appreciate that it's a huge problem area is just inconceivable.

Farting around with Benteke, Musa and other strikers when Robinson is one of our best players.

Oh and nice to bring on Phillips and HRK in the 2nd half tonight....

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