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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Sam Allardyce
« on: February 07, 2021, 02:17:02 PM »

The Astle Gates might be decorated in the next couple of days....

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Sam Allardyce
« on: February 07, 2021, 01:14:33 PM »
Allardyce plays in a cowardly manner just as Pulis did.

It's just an insult to the fans to leave Pereira on the bench.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Sam Allardyce
« on: February 07, 2021, 11:17:28 AM »
Which would happen against Spurs anyway....

Plenty of attacking players in there aswell

Peltier is the only problem in that lineup for me....

Glad you think it's acceptable to have Pereira on the bench....

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Sam Allardyce
« on: February 07, 2021, 11:12:52 AM »
Great idea that to leave Pereira on the bench!

Just blocking and defending from the start.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Sam Allardyce
« on: February 06, 2021, 11:32:43 PM »
So far Allardyce has failed to address the following areas:

1) Failed to improve / organise the defence.  An area on which he has built his reputation!!!!  In fact we have shown a big downturn, why?

2) Continued to pick old players that are too slow / lack quality for this league, even when other personnel are available for selection.

3) Talks about individual mistakes but in every match (even WWFC) we are 2nd in every single stat; possession, passes, shots, shots on targets etc.

4) Seemingly in no rush to change it around / introduce new players, despite the margin to safety growing larger.  So no realisation about the seriousness.

The sniping about Bilic's signings are silly.  He should make us £40m on Pereira along (he is that good). 
Pulis spent £26m on Livermore & Burke, that is what you call a waste.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Sam Allardyce
« on: February 06, 2021, 10:33:22 PM »
It's OK because on official site Allardyce thinks Maitland-Miles and Okay aren't up to starting v Spurs!!!

So when teams are announced at 11am, I expect his mate Livermore to be selected again. 

Probably not even worth watching if JL starts, guaranteed loss. 

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Sam Allardyce
« on: February 06, 2021, 11:37:37 AM »
I also think you’ll find that possession would be well under 50% and most of the time well under 40-45% in this league anyway against the majority of the leagues sides.

Tell me, how did we did do with a  more possession based game plan under the previous manager?

Dear me.  We never got spanked under Bilic, bar the cheating in the Palace match, when we were on top at the time of the Red card. We've been pummelled, roasted under Allardyce losing 4-0 and 5-0.  Sheff Utd was an appalling, embarrassing performance.

Allardyce can now do something about it with the new players.  I don't want to be seeing Grant, HRK, Livermore, Phillips.any longer. 

It has been long ball stuff as the midfield don't show for the ball because they're not comfortable on it.  Pereira is on a level way above anyone else in terms of passing and taking players on.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: WBA Greatest 16 of all time
« on: February 06, 2021, 02:10:47 AM »
On the basis that he was near the top of the assists table in the PL for most of his decent season's with us. Yes a bit of longevity too (a rare thing these days), he was club Captain during most of our better years in the PL. He was an important player for us between 2009 - 2015.

There's more to judge a player on than technical ability.

Have you got a metric for how many times an opposition player ran past him?

Lovely grounded man, good in his early Albion career.  A very notable contributor to Albions history.

In my opinion behind the likes of Gera, Koumas, Sneekes, Mulumbu, Hunt, Taylor of modern times.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Sam Allardyce
« on: February 06, 2021, 01:59:31 AM »
You must be...

I’ve seen some good football in spells....

I’ve seen some long balls.

But we are not a long ball side in the slightest

People seem to look at the Sheff Utd 2nd half and forget the 1st half where we played some decent football.

People blinded by their hatred of Allardyce

We have virtually no possession!  Possession has slipped comfortably under 40%.  We are not an accomplished passng team containing Livermore & Phillips.  You must be easily pleased.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: WBA Greatest 16 of all time
« on: February 05, 2021, 08:40:02 AM »
It would be hard for any modern day player to get into that list as they don't stay long enough at the club to achieve anything.
Having said that Chris Brunt should be on that list, a modern day legend. Like many on the list he didn't win anything but his contribution to the club shouldn't be overlooked.

On what basis?  Are you looking at longevity or quality?  If you're looking at quality absolutely nowhere near.  Gera is ahead of him, surely?

Albion Matchday Forum / Re: Pre Match Chat
« on: February 05, 2021, 07:44:24 AM »
Take the game to them, nothing to be frightened of.  No low defensive block please.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Kyle Bartley
« on: February 04, 2021, 08:11:39 PM »
Semi is 28 this year. If it’s too soon now i fear it always will be. No doubt he hasn’t been helped by poor full backs, but he is miles off it.

He’s a great example of athleticism going a long way in the championship, as it often can,  but you need more in premier league.

Disagree.  How would any other centre back cope playing behind a dysfunctional and inefficient midfield like ours?  Do you come out and leave the striker to focus on the on-rushing midfielder or stick with the striker and allow the midfielder a pop from 20 yards?  What would you do?  Yes the guy has made mistakes but so do other Premier League defenders.  Always a threat from set pieces, and has scored 3 goals in an awful team, more than Austin, HRK, Grant, Diangana, Grosicki, Livermore, Sawyers etc.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Sam Allardyce
« on: February 04, 2021, 05:46:39 PM »
What long ball tactics?

Weve played measured football and some longer balls. Im happy with that approach depending on what the game requires in that moment.

Its a complete myth that he is a long ball merchant. Several players have said this that have played under him in podcasts ive listened to recently. He encourages them to go out and play football was the theme under all of them.

You obviously have missed some of the recent matches / watched recent games in part!  Possession is around 30-35%, under the previous Manager is was 40-50%, there is a clear disparity.

If you are a defender you're not going to risk giving it to Livermore (but sometimes he doesn't want to receive anyway), you'll just crash it into the channel out of harm's way.

So if SA continues with midfielders of that ilk, the net result is long ball football.  Irrespective of relegation, I think he should play a more progressive style of football with neat inter-passing and movement off the ball with more technical midfielders. 

Then he can shed the "long ball merchant" / "dinosaur" tags that have dogged him over recent years.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Sam Allardyce
« on: February 04, 2021, 08:07:43 AM »
There is no excuse for any more longball tactics from Allardyce.  We have got Maitland Niles and Yokuslu who are technically superior to anything else we have in midfield. Diangana is fit again.  There is no need to play any of the players that have been proven to be not of sufficient quality (everyone knows who they are).

The transfer window has gone and Dowling has done some business, which could've been bypassed completely in terms of our plight and position in the table.

We all accept we are relegated and are at peace with it.  The ball though is massively in Allardyce's court to play a better style of football / showing more quality on the pitch.  Can he do it?

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Sam Allardyce
« on: February 03, 2021, 10:44:29 PM »
Good on Bilic for complaining.  It was not a Premier League budget.  He genuinely wanted to do well for the club and himself.

Right now totally confused what Allardyce's motives were for taking the job?  His relegation record is definitely up in smoke.  This is a different Allardyce to the younger version.  Does he even care?  From what happened at Brammall Lane I'd say no.  If that was him giving 100% then I'm genuinely shocked.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Have we been unlucky?
« on: February 03, 2021, 05:08:22 PM »
Unlucky under Bilic when we were on the wrong side of VAR. No evidence so far under SA.  For the most part we've been comprehensively outplayed.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Luke Dowling
« on: February 03, 2021, 05:06:46 PM »
The more I think about Dowling the more questions I have . His getting rid of the likes of Harper , Leko ,Field , Edwards could have gone to but for an alternative signing  seems very shortsighted given our current circumstances . All of the above would be n asset in the Championship where teams are going to have to look increasingly to their own as it is going to be much harder for those below elite level to go shopping abroad .

Maybe they are not good enough for the Premier League.  Why criticise recruiting players in January, don't understand that? 

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Sam Allardyce
« on: February 03, 2021, 04:34:08 PM »
I think in retrospect Bilic got sacked for openly criticising his employer not for job performance.

He couldn't be held to account for performance as we were pretty much lowest spenders.

This was borne out by position in the table. 

Any how its history and Allardyce has a better pool of players to work with now than what Bilic started the season with.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Sam Allardyce
« on: February 03, 2021, 03:51:49 PM »
If Allardyce has done due diligence on the season so far and viewed all the tapes from every single WBA games, then there is absolutely no case whatsoever for playing either Livermore, Phillips, HRK or Grant.

We have much better player assets now, so if he does that again v Spurs with seemingly everyone available then he deserves the sack, simple.

There is not one single poster on here that vouches for Livermore or Phillips starting or HRK and Grant from the bench.

Allardyce needs to do the job he's paid hansomely for.  No one is asking for points targets or putting pressure on certain games as must win.  The fans are just asking that he picks the best team available.  There have been extra players brought in for a reason i.e. They are better footballers.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Luke Dowling
« on: February 03, 2021, 01:25:02 PM »
You could also say 43m on a squad which lacks quality in defence, midfield and upfront is a waste of opportunity. Dowling should be paid to get the most from the resources we have and it's clear we didn't by the awful team we've assembled which are wholly unprepared for the premier league and more importantly for me have zero character to go down fighting.  Dowling has failed and so have Bilic and Allardyce as well as the players

It's not a Premier League budget!  How much did Dean Smith spend last year?

Allardyce sure as hell is struggling, picking renowned failures such as Livermore, Phillips, HRK, Grant when we have better options available.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Luke Dowling
« on: February 03, 2021, 12:45:21 PM »
The summer business looks more of a shambles each passing week. Signing Grant after we’d signed Grady & Robinson has left us with 3 left wingers 2 of which have cost the best part of £32m, even if Bilic was pushing for Grant Dowling should have overruled him & if reports are true Bilic didn’t want Grady & thought the money should have been distributed around the team but was overruled by Dowling.

He then sacks Bilic for Allardyce which is becoming clearer with each week this team isn’t suited to play Allardyce’s football & has now blown what very little remaining budget we had on loans to get Allardyce’s players for 6 months when we are dead & buried which is now going to impact the summer budget. It’s all short term plugs there’s zero long term planning, we lurch from one style to another we need a defined style of playing and to recruit & hire managers that fit that style, that’s all down to Dowling we’ve gone from big Dave, the Jimmy Shan fiasco, Bilic to Allardyce massive swings in style.

I guarantee if Dowling is here in the summer the next manager will be John Terry I’ll put my house on it.

It's ridiculous people are getting fixated about the Summer budget and how much we spent on each player.

£24m for Pereira & Grant = about right.
£19m for Diangana & Ajayi = about right.
FREE Ivanovic = dead right.

You win some / lose some.  What's clear is that Bilic was given nowhere near enough money.  But its gone now and time to look forwards.

The sole focus is on how Allardyce delivers improved performces and results with resources that are better than Bilic started with last September.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Sam Allardyce
« on: February 03, 2021, 12:13:45 PM »
totally agree, we have thrown yet another load of cash down the drain this recent window (wages agents etc) and it will be a reason for lack of investment / rebuild next season.  Club chasing Chairmans unreal expectations, laughable if not so bloody predictable.

We haven't seen 3 of the recruits in action yet.  Dowling has brought in 5 players (too late in January BTW) but 5 players all the same.  That's far more than what most other clubs have done due to the Covid restrictions.

Dowling's work is done.  We have a right to hold Allardyce to account for his performance between now and season end.  We should be going down kicking and screaming and with some fight. Not just give up, shrug shoulders and give the Manager a free pass.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Sam Allardyce
« on: February 03, 2021, 11:57:15 AM »
Roy had much better defenders to work with at the time. It would be interesting to see if he could do anything with these players but we will never know

This team is better suited to playing offensively rather than defensively.

Shame then that Allardyce can't make the necessary adjustments to his footballing philosophy.  Allardyce = inflexible, yes 100%.

And Allardyce has moaned that he was unjustly removed from previous jobs to an unfair label of a long ball merchant / fire fighter.  Last night he did nothing to dispel that tag whatsoever.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Sam Allardyce
« on: February 03, 2021, 11:52:43 AM »
Fitness is somewhat irrelevant if the team you select / tactics deployed are both totally wrong!

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Sam Allardyce
« on: February 03, 2021, 11:27:13 AM »
Allardyce just cheated the fans last night by starting with Livermore and Phillips / bringing on HRK and Grant.

Is this really the limit of his football knowledge and ability?

Going to Brammall Lane and parking the bus against a team below us in the table!  Even when we had a fortuitous lead instead of being brave and going for the 2nd we just sat back and invited pressure.

It's not the defeat itself but everything about the lack of intent to win a football match.

So for me he is on his last chance with Spurs on Sunday.  Due to the SU fixture having close proximity to the transfer window and without all new signings available, I'll see what he does with selection for this one.  For crying out loud try to win, a draw does nothing for our predicament.  Just have a go!!!

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