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28 goals in 120 games tells the story really.

never a fan of his but he always give it 100%.

Good luck Salomon !

Judging any striker on his goal return in a Pulis team is pointless - I'm fairly certain Rondon was the first player who hit double figures under him in over 10 years.

I'll miss him. We never saw the best of him, and I think Newcastle did.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Mr program Dave Bowler
« on: July 17, 2019, 04:56:42 PM »
I normally buy the programmes, but was contemplating knocking it on the head this year. They are terrific, but an added expense every home game. I won't be buying them now.

Of course, that's just playing into their hands, but I'm not paying nearly £4 if it's not going to be as good.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Louie Barry
« on: July 11, 2019, 04:47:17 PM »
According to Sky, the club are annoyed with Barca because they've announced it before all the paperwork is completed.

Because that makes a difference in any of it... ::)

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Darren Moore sacked
« on: July 11, 2019, 04:45:45 PM »
I wish the bloke every success. I really do.

I just think it speaks volumes that after leaving us in 4th in the Championship, he's had to drop down a level for his next job.

Pre-Season Friendlies / Re: 13th July 2019 - Villarreal (A)
« on: July 10, 2019, 12:55:51 PM »
Anybody know what players we've actually taken to Spain? I've seen the number 18 mentioned, but I can't work it out.

General Football & Sports / Re: Seals watch - Anything Villa
« on: July 10, 2019, 12:49:53 PM »
As it stands I see Villa being in a 5 way relegation fight with Norwich, Sheffield, Brighton and Newcastle. Any 2 from these have a chance of staying up next season.

I don't think Brighton will be that deep next year. Probably the other four and then a surprise name.

Pre-Season Friendlies / Re: 9th July 2019 - Tamworth 2 Albion 4
« on: July 10, 2019, 12:48:40 PM »
With us having only 1 striker at the club, it is hard to work out why Soule hasn’t gone to Spain. No wonder the likes of Barry and Rodgers won’t sign on. Ridiculous.

If he was top scorer for the under-23's, then he should have gone. Especially as we've lost Rodriguez and Gayle, and are down to just Robson-Kanu up front.

No wonder young players want to leave if we won't include them.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Jay Rodriguez Joins Burnley
« on: July 10, 2019, 12:45:45 PM »
I wasn't keen when we signed him - especially not for that price. It's a bit of a mixed bag overall - 22 goals last year, a couple of which against the Villa, but a lot of penalties. He seemed a bit lightweight at times, but kept working hard and scoring. And then there was the racism thing, which kind of tainted his time here, even if he wasn't guilty.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: New Kit 2019/20
« on: July 10, 2019, 12:41:11 PM »
Green and yellow stripes is a hard kit to get right; last year they nailed it, this year it looks a bit crap. It should always have green shorts.

I won't be getting it.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Morgan Rogers
« on: July 09, 2019, 12:47:22 PM »
If you're Morgan Rogers, you are at a point in your career where you might still not make it as a professional. You have maybe 2-3 years to impress somewhere before getting released, and if you do you might not be picked up by another club.

In those 2 - 3 years, you could play for West Bromwich Albion earning £500 a week, or you could play for Manchester City, earning £20k a week. For the player, this is a no-brainer, as just three years at City could set you up for life, even if you don't make it. Even if you do get released by City, you can probably get picked up by a Championship club - which we currently are. So it makes sense.

The problem is the youth transfer system is broken, and needs fixing. But we haven't got any interest in fixing it because we can cherry-pick from below us for peanuts.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Under 23's/ Academy Thread
« on: July 09, 2019, 12:41:36 PM »
One of the problems with our academy is that in the past the structure/coaches had been there for a long time, and were well trusted, so could give genuine advice on whether a player was ready for the step-up. By going cheap on the first team management, the club has lost Darren Moore and Jimmy Shan from the setup completely, leaving it with less experienced coaches, and removing some of the clear pathways that previously existed.

I wouldnt be surprised if we were very tight when it comes to wages of the young players, relying heavily on appearance/performance bonuses rather than wages, whilst also being very negative towards players' agents. All this is bound to push the players' representatives to recommend them move elsewhere, which will generate the agent more cash in the short term, with little regard to the player's ongoing development.

Why should a player be loyal if the club doesn't show they respect their talent?

What clear pathways to the first team have there been for youth players? The last one to break through on a consistent basis was Berahino. Before that, probably the Chambers twins and Lloyd Dyer.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Under 23's/ Academy Thread
« on: July 09, 2019, 12:39:39 PM »
It’s a food chain and begs the question of why we aren’t doing similar to smaller clubs than us?

We are. But because it's us and a smaller club, it isn't really newsworthy. We've done it as far back as George Thorne.

Also the sums involved might be smaller, but they mean more to the clubs involved because they aren't earning premier league money.

Good signing that. I was doubtful we'd get it over the line, but if this is the calibre of player we're looking to bring in then that can only be a good thing.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Under 23's/ Academy Thread
« on: July 05, 2019, 01:33:48 PM »
Every time we lose a kid out of the academy, the call is to close it down. We shouldn't do that.

What we need to do is convince the kids that there is a path to the first team at our place. If we did that, they might work harder, and be less likely to leave.

That said, the system is broken, so we're losing players to Liverpool, Chelsea, etc., for peanuts.

We don't need to scrap our academy; we need to campaign for an overhaul of the system.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: One month to go
« on: July 04, 2019, 01:27:20 PM »
I'm struggling to get back into it tbh. It's not the start of the season - when anything could happen and the world's your oyster. It's the long hard slog of a Championship winter that I'm not looking forward to.

General Football & Sports / Re: OFFICIAL PREMIER LEAGUE THREAD
« on: July 03, 2019, 08:50:45 AM »
Perez to Leicester for £30 million a done deal. This pushes Barnes further down the pecking order and after a disappointing under 21s campaign. Any chance?

Well they don't play in the same position, and Barnes has established himself in their first team squad, so I'm going to say no.

We need to let Barnes and Gayle go. They were never ours, and barring promotion won't be coming back.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Salomon Rondon
« on: July 03, 2019, 08:48:37 AM »
It wouldn't surprise me if Rondon followed Benitez to China

Had heard talk of this. Might represent our best chance to match his release clause.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: West Midlands Football Supporters
« on: July 03, 2019, 08:46:03 AM »
I can only speak on my experiences, but I don't think anybody in the region touches Villa for arrogance and entitlement. You'd have to hit Merseyside / London to match it.

Wolves have a bit of arrogance, but I think on the whole their recent lack of top-flight football have given most of their fans a humility that Villa just aren't capable of. You can banter with Wolves fans; you can't with Villa.

I genuinely haven't met a Blues fan, but as a fanbase they always strike me that they too have a higher opinion of themselves. They couldn't sell their ground out at home to Man United in the Premiership, when United were good, but think they're on a par with us / Wolves.

I have a few mates who support Walsall, and they're all good lads. Plus they hate Villa / Wolves as much as us, so that's good.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: James Shan
« on: July 01, 2019, 08:55:57 PM »
Anyone concerned that we don't have anyone in the set up with the experience of the Championship as a league??

Nuno didn't have any experience of the Championship, and Wolves inebriated it.

Farke didn't have any experience of the Championship, and he built a good team to get promotion. Wagner too.

Experience of the championship is an overrated qualification. Ultimately if you're good enough, you'll succeed.

Pre-Season Friendlies / Re: 26th July 2019 - AFC Bournemouth (H)
« on: July 01, 2019, 08:51:51 PM »

It's a pre season friendly, the score really doesn't matter one jot.

If Bournemouth click early and we get a thumping at home heading into the new season, then it will have a negative impact on everybody.

Pre-season is key for getting the players ready, physically and mentally. Momentum plays into that. It won't help going to Forest if we've just got beat at home.

Pre-Season Friendlies / Re: 26th July 2019 - AFC Bournemouth (H)
« on: July 01, 2019, 01:27:06 PM »
Talk about underwhelming home friendlies. Could be a crowd in 3 figures, and a thumping if Bournemouth are on it.

I'd much rather get turned over at home by Porto or Sociedad than Bournemouth.

General Football & Sports / Re: OFFICIAL CHAMPIONSHIP THREAD
« on: July 01, 2019, 01:25:39 PM »
Blues have sold Che Adams to Southampton.

Genuinely think they'll be in a relegation dogfight this season, even without the threat of another points deduction.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Craig Dawson
« on: July 01, 2019, 01:24:28 PM »
Considering we're talking about a 29 year old, who has one year left on his deal, and previously refused to play for the club on two occasions, I think it's a decent fee.

I would have taken the money last Summer, but this will do.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Is the Hawthorns safe from Lai?
« on: July 01, 2019, 12:51:56 PM »
Lai hasn't got the disposable cash outside of China to buy The Hawthorns from the club. If he did, he'd have paid back the £4.1 million loan he inherited from Peace.

What we have to be worried about is a third party buying it and renting it back to us.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Filip Krovinovic
« on: July 01, 2019, 12:45:30 PM »
I'm hearing English teams have been interested before, but work permit issues have stopped any deal. But it's good to see us interested in players like this, who can get better.

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