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Of course with Diangana back; it could also offer us another dynamic bench option on the hour mark is Slaven plans to use him or reintroduce him in that manner.

we also have Phillips, Grosicki and even Edwards as options of the bench. As others have said, it's a nice problem to have.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Callum Robinson (on loan from Sheff. Utd.)
« on: February 19, 2020, 03:17:44 PM »
Robinson has been top draw, but Diangana is next level. I think Bilic will get them both in with Robinson going up top.

I think that would be the best use of them both.

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Have to say I'm glad he's come back from his ban bang in form.

I was quite critical of him once Diangana was out of the side as he didn't seem to be able to impose himself on games as he had done earlier in the season and appeared to me to be a luxury.

Having pacy/creative players around him such as Robinson and the upturn in performances by Krovinovic has enabled him to be effective once again.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Callum Robinson (on loan from Sheff. Utd.)
« on: February 19, 2020, 03:10:19 PM »
Diangana is our most important player, he'll be straight back in when fit.

You may well be right but at least with the form Robinson has shown so far there's no rush to get Diangana in.

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Next Match Forum - 22/02 Bristol City (A) / Re: Pre Match Chat
« on: February 19, 2020, 10:41:32 AM »
Woa!

They're just outside the play-off places & 3 points from Fulham in third, IMO it's not going to be a walkover by any means.
On paper, we should be too good for them, but it's the business end of the season, I think we'll just shade it, but I'm not confident.
As long as we turn up from the off this season. They will pose a threat no doubt about it.
If we show the same tenacity we've shown in our most recent always then I think we'll bring back all 3 points.

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Forthcoming Match Forum - 25/02 Preston North End (H) / Re: Match Officials
« on: February 18, 2020, 12:54:06 PM »
Should have shown their player a red for the Diangana penalty. And before anyone mentions double jeopardy it doesn't apply with reckless/dangerous play which was clearly the case with the challenge in question. Took him out at knee height with no attempt at playing the ball. Red card challenge anywhere on the pitch; penalty or not.

Think you've posted in the wrong bit mate. Kevin Friend hasn't reffed us since 2017, way before Diangana played for us.

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Forthcoming Match Forum - 25/02 Preston North End (H) / Match Officials
« on: February 18, 2020, 12:28:58 PM »
Referee: Kevin Friend
Assistant Referee: Simon Beck
Assistant Referee: Adrian Holmes
Fourth Official: Dean Whitestone

Last reffed us back in Feb 2017, we beat Stoke 1-0.

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Next Match Forum - 22/02 Bristol City (A) / Match Officials
« on: February 18, 2020, 12:21:24 PM »
Referee: Darren England
Assistant Referee: Nick Greenhalgh
Assistant Referee: Paul Hodskinson
Fourth Official: David Rock

Reffed our 2-1 at Forest and our 3-2 at Blues.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Season Tickets
« on: February 17, 2020, 12:11:21 PM »
Great move by the club.

Personally gutted as I'm broke and probably won't get the money from my house sale until just after the cut off so will likely lose my seat in the Smethwick. Might give em a tinkle and see if they can hold my sest a week or 2 longer.  :-X

not sure you'd lose your seat mate, it's only the early bird offer. You should still be able to keep your seat just that you'll have to pay a bit more once the early bird deadline is finished.

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Albion Matchday Forum / Re: Don Goodman commentary
« on: February 17, 2020, 11:35:37 AM »
I couldn't care less if privately he holds a grudge against us. But when he's working for a public broadcaster, he's supposed to be impartial.  That's if he's trying to build a career as an expert football summariser who can be taken seriously.
Another thing is that Sky seem to select him for a hell of a lot of our games. Is that because of him having some expert knowledge of the Championship or being based in the Midlands?
 

more to do with the fact he used to play for us I'd have thought.

Wasn't he one of the pundits when we won 1-5 at Molineaux?

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Albion Matchday Forum / Re: After Match Debate
« on: February 16, 2020, 07:13:40 PM »
Totally bossed the game against promotion contenders.

nothing much Bartley could do about the own goal, if he leaves it Grabban has a tap in. Don't think he hand ball was a penalty either. Bartley was poor though.

In real time at the game I thought Livermore's challenge was fair and the Forest #2 was just making the most of it trying to get someone booked as he had done earlier. However on viewing the highlights Livermore was very lucky indeed to sat on the pitch. Glad he did though, a proper captains display and capped it off with yet another assists for the 2nd goal.

Think Grosicki should have come on earlier and I'd have subbed Sawyers who was poor again.

All in all we deserved to win that but I'll take a point.

We should have scored more, a mix of poor finishing and 2 or 4 great saves by their keeper.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Jake Livermore
« on: February 13, 2020, 09:23:30 AM »
Is there any neutral person or organisation out there that can give ratings: B'ham Mail or Express and Star?
I would be good if we could get the opinion of one or two managers of other Championship clubs.

Both The Mail and The express & star do player ratings.

these are from the E & S for the millwall game:
https://www.expressandstar.com/sport/football/west-bromwich-albion/2020/02/10/millwall-0-west-brom-2-player-ratings/

Mails from last night:https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/west-brom-player-ratings-reading-17739304

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Sam Johnstone
« on: February 13, 2020, 09:04:32 AM »
The last time that I saw Bond play, a cup match I think, he had a very poor game. Unless he gets worse or injured, Johnstone will be between the sticks for the rest of the season.

He wasn't convincing against Millwall in the Carabao cup but he's looked decent in the FA Cup games, hasn't had a lot to do in either but has done what's needed.

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General Football & Sports / Re: OFFICIAL CHAMPIONSHIP THREAD
« on: February 13, 2020, 09:01:11 AM »
So them nearly grabbing an equalizer tonight instead of capulating when we were on top, isn't resilient?

ah hindsight such a wonderful thing.

I don't remember them having chances when we were on top though. They came into the game last 20 mins when we were tired and had a goal rightly ruled out for offside that's not resilience that's us being tired having played a day later than them in poor conditions against Millwall away. They had a relatively easy home game a day before, against a poor Hull side and couldn't see out a win. No not resilient.

Resilience would have been them being able to hold out for a win having taken the early lead or them coming back to take a point or all 3. They didn't so again no not resilient.

Us, on the other hand, having gained 24 points from losing positions is resilience.

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Albion Matchday Forum / Match Officials
« on: February 13, 2020, 08:47:41 AM »
Referee:  Keith Stroud
Assistant Referee: James Mainwaring
Assistant Referee: Mark Pottage
Fourth Official: Darren Bond

Was supposed to ref our game at Millwall but Gavin Ward replaced him.

Stroud reffed our 5-1 Swansea game.

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Albion Matchday Forum / Re: After Match Debate
« on: February 13, 2020, 08:41:09 AM »
Many of us could see that the game changed after about an hour.
I feel Bilic should have reacted to this with subs much earlier than he did.The benefits would have been twofold a)Resting three of our starters b)Honing the fitness of the subs whilst freshening up the team.

You do know we won right?

Reading, being the home side, were always going to get chances, they had a few; we coped with them. They had an extra days rest than us and we'd put in a right shift against Millwall in horrendous conditions.
Don't think the subs fitness needs honing as Phillips up until the last two games has been a starter, Grosicki has played in every game for Hull and Austin has played regularly for us either as a starter or from the bench, so fitness or match fitness shouldn't be an issue.

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General Football & Sports / Re: OFFICIAL CHAMPIONSHIP THREAD
« on: February 12, 2020, 02:52:17 PM »
They are drawing a lot of games, and imo that shows relisence and came back in the cup against Cardiff recently too.

it would show resilience IMO if they grabbed a draw from being behind but in the recent league games they've drawn they have done that twice and been pegged back twice.
On Saturday against a very weak Hull side, that had been thrashed 1-5 by Brentford the weekend before, they couldn't see the game out and conceded late on.

I agree with you that it will be a tough game but I'm not seeing a particularly resilient side that's all.


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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Sam Johnstone
« on: February 12, 2020, 02:42:31 PM »
The only people who lose credibility are those who effusively praise the Johnstone's, Livermore's and Bartley's for the odd 6 or 7 out of 10 performance using nonsense hyperbole like, 'our most essential players'.


Take Johnstone on Sunday. He had virtually nothing to do but if someone did want to pick him apart then he could have caught the two crosses that he punched away well, left the shot going wide instead of parrying it out for a corner and held the tame shot that was going in instead of putting it out for a corner.


He was a bog standard 6 out of 10, maybe 6.5 for his distribution. The issue is not someone saying he didn't play well, it's the needless adding to this thread after the game disguising a nothing performance as something better.

There is also an issue though that for some players no matter how well they play and sometimes those players are an 8/10 that certain posters just won't give them any credit and call an outstanding performance a nothing /mundane performance.

anyone who just picks out players faults without being able to praise loses credibility surely?

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Chris Brunt
« on: February 12, 2020, 02:29:42 PM »
No problem with any of what he said. He’s a class act who knows he’s not good enough for our team now, though he has looked ok in the cup games I thought. Hope he hasn’t lost an important opportunity and that he gets his move in the summer.

That was my reading of it too. I'd rather he didn't go anywhere else but if he does I'd wish him good luck. I'd prefer him to retire, but he'd be good for a mid/lower championship side for another 4 or 5 years or so.

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General Football & Sports / Re: OFFICIAL CHAMPIONSHIP THREAD
« on: February 12, 2020, 11:39:07 AM »
Fulham have had the standout squad from day one and I remember being p issed when they took knockheart on loan too. It's a shame the Mitrovic injury was not as bad as first thought as he is the best striker in this division.

The novice Parker seems to have got the measure of this division now and shored up his defence and is now getting the one Nils at Blackburn that promotions are built on.

I hope they lose tonight, but long term I hope we are going up with them as I think they will definitely be in the top two as they have the core of the players that went up a couple of seasons ago.

Regarding Leeds, the guy Augustin they took on loan has a bad boy image of kicking off from what I was reading about him in a magazine last year, so hopefully that will continue.

Reading will be very difficult tonight imo, as their new manager is getting a tune out of them now and on their day their forwards can be dangerous.

If we play like we did at Millwall we have a great chance though to bring all 3 points home.

Forest on Saturday will be more difficult as they rested 5 players last night and lost so will be like a wounded animal.

Hopefully, Slav doesn't rotate tonight like at Wigan as that really backfired then.

Agree mostly about Fulham.
Not sure what tune you are hearing from Reading though, they haven't won in the league since 1st Jan ( when they beat Fulham). It won't be an easy game but I'm confident we can get a win.

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General Football & Sports / Re: OFFICIAL PREMIER LEAGUE THREAD
« on: February 12, 2020, 09:31:43 AM »
If he goes to Real or Barca, he can command circa £300k a week easily.

This is why I think Liverpool's resurgence will be a flash in the pan; they aren't the big fish they were in the '80's, and the best players in the world always end up at Barca / Real now.

I'm not so sure it's a flash in the pan. Only lost 1 game in nearly 2 seasons in the strongest league in world football, current European and world champions. I think they have the right manager and if they can continually strengthen the team/squad they may be at the start of another period of dominance.

IMHO players only go to Barca and Real now because of the name, they aren't the dominant European forces they once were.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Chris Brunt
« on: February 12, 2020, 09:22:35 AM »
Seems he wanted the Stoke move. Mainly to play regularly, as he accepts that he is nowhere near the first team squad here, but also because of his good relationship with Michael O'Neill.

https://www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/stoke-transfers-brunt-west-brom-3829508

Hope he retires at the end of the season and has a testimonial game to allow the fans to say goodbye.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Best team with all fit
« on: February 11, 2020, 05:42:03 PM »

Both walk into the team.

Thankfully Slaven doesn't agree with you.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Best team with all fit
« on: February 11, 2020, 03:50:53 PM »

Would have been a 100 point season. Alas.

Not with that team. There is no way on earth that Brunt starts in cm in our best team. Neither does Hegazi, not on this season's form.

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