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Isn't that part of the fourth officials role. To be the communication point between coaches and refereeing team. Even if just to give the coaches an outlet to let off steam and not hamper the three primary officials.

Last Match Forum - 14/09 Fulham (A) / Re: After Match Debate
« on: September 16, 2019, 11:52:28 AM »
Anyone notice (may just be me) but the pitch looked quite dry? The ball didn't zip as much as usual. Gamesmanship by not watering certain parts and happens all the time of course, but maybe that also affected our performance? I know Fulham like to pass but may they are more used to it.

Well as Mr Klopp said; we can happily play on dry dangerous life-threatening pitches down in the Championship.

Last Match Forum - 14/09 Fulham (A) / Re: After Match Debate
« on: September 14, 2019, 02:28:45 PM »
Good point.

Fulham started to lise their way a bit when took the lead and our press was much better. Best chance in first half was for Austin. Went for spectacular. Had time chest it down and slot it in.

Last Match Forum - 31/08 Blackburn Rovers (H) / Re: After Match Debate
« on: September 01, 2019, 01:48:13 PM »
On the Phillips goal. While the defender got his body in front, Phillips got his arm in front. I felt he was entitled tonpull his arm back entangling the defender as the defender was entitled to get in front of him.

General Football & Sports / Re: Seals watch - Anything Villa
« on: September 01, 2019, 10:45:57 AM »
Blatant dive as cahill clearly moves his leg away yet greasy jack still manage to outdo Tom daley.

My Friend Kevin may take stick for nob heads like jermain jenas but watch the situation in slow motion and it is clear what cahill does yet greasy still manages kiss the grass the vile scum bag.

He has a unique style. And I feel Smith has Villa trained to find the contact to win frees. Like Mings tumbling when lightly shoved by Rodriguez leading to our throw-in for Dawsons goal.
Grealish seemed to be in two minds whether to play om or win a free/penalty. Also Zaha did very well not to take him out (maybe he should have actually) and the BBC commentator trying to make excuses that he got pushed into Cahill.

General Football & Sports / Re: Seals watch - Anything Villa
« on: August 31, 2019, 11:44:45 PM »
Well I didnt know that Grealish and Villa had a reputation for seeking contact and falling over at any chance. Thought it was only me believing that. Seems to have cost them today. Clear howler of a decision. Very upsetting I had to wipe away the tears ( though my wife did ask why I was laughing so hard).

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: 100 years ago
« on: August 28, 2019, 03:53:10 PM »
I've just noticed that it is a century since we won the first division, season 1919 - 1920.
The only time we've won the top division.
One year after the end of the great war.
Makes you think doesn't it.
Think there was a line in one of the History VHS from the 90s. Where they state that West Brom' were in a position to dominate for a few years but the Kaiser had other ideas. Some good interviews though none from the Pennington led 1920s team but a couple from the 30s Cup teams.

General Football & Sports / Re: OFFICIAL PREMIER LEAGUE THREAD
« on: August 17, 2019, 04:35:06 PM »
Norwich were the luckiest side ever last year, they will not survive this season. If Pukki  gets 8 I’ll 8 my hat.

That hat might be coming out your other end before September at this rate.

Non Sports/ Non Politics Board / Re: Mate moving on
« on: August 13, 2019, 08:34:34 AM »
I woiuld.certainly support Forest/Derby over any of the other rivals bar maybe Blues where I wouldn't care either way. (Assuming games have no impact on West Brom naturally).

General Football & Sports / Re: Football Rule Changes
« on: August 08, 2019, 10:42:37 AM »
I can see this one being abused by goalkeepers and causing some confusion. What on earth constitutes unsuccessfully kicking or trying to kick a ball? How hard do you have to try?

"If, after a   throw-in or deliberate   pass   from   a team-mate, the goalkeeper unsuccessfully kicks or tries to kick the ball to release it into   play,   the goalkeeper can then handle the ball"

That one jumped out at me too. If the ball hits a divot and takes an unusual course then it may be acceptable to readjust and handle the ball but anything else would just seem like at worse - play-acting and at best rewarding very poor play.

Albion Matchday Forum / Re: Match officials
« on: August 03, 2019, 11:00:54 PM »
Thought he was very lenient but consistently so. Silva could have had three or four yellows with another referee and we could have conceded ppssibly two penalties; albeit one would have been very harsh.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Darren Moore sacked
« on: July 11, 2019, 02:33:01 PM »
It was yes, but i don't think it was all down to Darren, we had a talented squad of players who didn't want to play for Pulis and Pardew, and they reacted like men let out of prison.
We saw the same reaction at Manchester United after Mourinho was sacked. They won their next six on the bounce. United foolishly like us then gave the job to Solksjaer and their form fell away. He won't survive next season, but he had managed clubs before and  had a much better knowledge than Darren. But the job will prove to big for him, and the same with Lampard at Chelsea.

It's the board i am really angry with for appointing Darren in the first place, this is a decision that may prove to have finished us as a top flight club. Those are the bare unpalatable facts. I may never see Albion in the top flight ever again, and all because Darren was a nice bloke and cheap.
We needed a manager of Bilic's ability last season while the players were still there. I personally wanted Dean Smith, a proper football manager, but our tight board won't pay compensation to another club.
Had we  chosen the right manager we would be back in the prem now instead of Vile.

It galls me that after being in the prem for eight seasons, and being bought out by a billionaire the club still acts like a league 1 outfit.
I am gutted that we now have no money, no players, a failing Academy, (for the benefit of us at least) while our two neighbours swagger about.

I am sorry but i have no enthusiasm for wishing Darren Moore all the best for the future, anymore than i would wish any other manager at any other club.

I would be leaning towards the other side of the fence on this matter. I did feel you were making good arguments on your side but the statement that the following three items are facts rather than opinion is clearly untrue.

  • (Solskjaer)He won't survive next season
  • and the same with Lampard at Chelsea.
  • this is a decision that may prove to have finished us as a top flight club.

General Football & Sports / Re: Women's World Cup
« on: July 09, 2019, 10:23:10 AM »
Even big Rugby players only play 80 mins.

True, but women's and men's rugby both play the same 80 minutes.
The heat and humidity in the last couple of weeks in France would also have severely contributed to the energy sapping levels.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Morgan Rogers
« on: July 08, 2019, 05:56:38 PM »
Phil Foden is 19 and only get a game now and again for City. Rogers would have been around our first team this season, and am I right he’s an Albion fan as well. Seem such short sighted of him, the lure of the big bucks, but maybe I’m just seeing it through blue and white tinted glasses.

In fairness, he probably as much chance establishing himself as a Championship player joining Man City by going out on load. Will probably raise his scouting profile as well.
Many of the players with Liverpool/Man City/Chelsea may not be getting first team football at those clubs; but are likely to be on better money and able to get exposure to first team football by going out on loan to a club deemed to be at a suitable level. Maybe not as stable a situation as staying with us but opens up a greater number of possibilities.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Bigger Club or Albion?
« on: July 05, 2019, 01:58:58 PM »
just for fun and sort of prompted by the decision by Barry to reject Albions contract offer, i know he is not an albion fan but...

if you were a professional footballer and had the offer to remain at your boyhood club of Albion at 10k a week in the  championship say, or £80k a week at a club like Everton/Spurs/Arsenal, what would you do?

Part of it probably depends on the other half. Likelihood to move onwards; particularly if bringing up a family and there maybe a push to head towards London or the like. If I was more free and single I may struggle a bit more (with my agent trying hard to persuade me to move I am sure), but the career potential and money would be hard to refuse.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: West Midlands Football Supporters
« on: July 05, 2019, 09:41:43 AM »
I love all things Albion including our fans, i just wish they would demand we show a bit more ambition. I'm not talking about going mad and bankrupting us, just pay a going rate. The time it takes to sign a player is embarrassing.This board will try and get by with spending the least amount of money if they can.

I want us to go back to the days of Ashworth. On balance, find the players that are undervalued and seek to maximise our potential that way. While utilising our funds smartly 

General Football & Sports / Re: Sky TV v BT v Amazon Prime
« on: July 03, 2019, 02:27:09 PM »
I’m hearing that Amazon Prime will be broadcasting 20 Premier League games live next season and that they have ALL the Boxing Day games live. Amazon don’t have a channel as I understand it, so will be streaming the games.

Could this be the beginning of the end of Sky Sports and BT as Amazon are a very aggressive and progressive company and could easily out bid both. Also Amazon Prime is a lot cheaper than Sky and BT, which is good news for the consumer, stay tuned!

Facebook are also interested in streaming Premier League games, they already own the streaming right of Premier League games into Asia. So, lots of competition, which icould be good news for us consumers.

Interesting times ahead I think.

To get the rights; Amazon will need to outbid BT/Sky, which they will need to pay for in some way and will likely see a hike up in the price for future. Amazon Prime offering isn't all that enticing at the moment and they need to get people on board with attractive pricing.
Seems in this case things were a lot better for consumers in a monopoly situation where you only had to pay for one subscription for Sky; rather than having multiple companies showing games which just increases the number of subscriptions a consumer pays if they want to see games.

General Football & Sports / Re: OFFICIAL CHAMPIONSHIP THREAD
« on: June 28, 2019, 10:03:51 AM »
Think Jody Morris would be a big asset for Lampard at Chelsea; especially if they are restricted to transfer movements. Will know the vast array of young players that are generally out on loan and may need to be utilised more and probably has a stronger coaching basis than Lampard.

Slaven Bilic defends his short spell in Saudi Arabia

Interesting read

Source: https://www.expressandstar.com/sport/football/west-bromwich-albion/2019/06/26/slaven-bilic-defends-his-short-spell-in-saudi-arabia/

Interesting read. Seems to be a lot of similarities with Monk's season at Birmingham City.

General Football & Sports / Re: VAR
« on: June 25, 2019, 12:42:43 PM »
The one thing I think VAR takes away from the game is the instant celebration from scoring.

Imagine scoring a last minute winner against the villa, only to have to stop and wait for the ref to check if the goal stands for a couple of minutes before then continuing to celebrate.

Actually one of my favourite type of celebrations (pre-VAR) is when someone thinks they scored; only to get it overturned by a late flag or a delayed refereeing decision. So if VAR gives us a chance for Villa to score what they think is a late equaliser only to be overturned 'because Jack Grealish's loose toe end on his old boot is 2mm in front Hegazi's hair then I will happily enjoy the celebration.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Fixtures 2019/2020
« on: June 20, 2019, 09:44:44 AM »
We traditionally lose our first game.
Looking through the fixtures there isn't much there that frightens me...providing we have a strong squad.

Apart from when we got relegated with two opening wins. :(
Loolkng at flights. Presume low likelihood of Millwall first home game being moved. More likely  police moving it to early slot than Sky showing it   

General Football & Sports / Re: Corruption
« on: June 18, 2019, 04:00:02 PM »

I can't remember whether we are going for the 2018 or 2022 WC's but I do remember out bid was described as 'perfect' yet didn't we get just one vote?

Would have been the 2018 World Cup with Russia where most European countries applied. USA and Australia. My main memory was the FA doing everything they could to get the British media to be quiet and not make any statements on potential FIFA corruption as it could affect the bid. Then moaning and crying straight after about the corruption the moment they lost which they were adamant to hush up.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Darren Moore sacked
« on: June 18, 2019, 10:26:24 AM »
Unpopular opinion - but Darren came across as incredibly thick. His pre/post match interviews were quite frankly, at times, toe curling.

Certainly wouldn't be hiring for an in-depth analysis TV show or podcast on the intricacies of the game based on his pre/post match interviews. To be honest I never really pay them much heed. Pre-match; just try to be complimentary about the opposition team and say how great they are whether they are high-flying Norwich or down in the doldrums relegated Ipswich. Post-match; either say we happy with win and move on to next game or just a find way to moan about the referees without explicitly stating it so you can't be fined/suspended.

My own bar-stool interpretation is that he has a strong emotional intelligence and was able to gel the squad together and his football outlook was highly defensively based. That all gelled well after Pardew finally went; when we put several strong back to the walls performance together with a solid foundation and strong team spirit. Jones was bought in to develop our style of play from attacking point of view. Personally I was ok with us trying the new style and making mistakes early in the season but it became evident that we were still playing the style without being able to eradicate the mistakes and didn't grow in confidence with the system. Moore effectively had the final say is accountable as well.
Think he did a decent job with us and overcame his first major challenge to ensure that we were among the contenders rather than having the squad but being in total disarray like Stoke. Having established our position as promotion challengers; in the second-half of the season we didn't kick on enough and were starting to slide back. That slide mixed with Jones stated departure for Luton the following season led to his departure.

Has certain qualities as a manager and some development. Wish him the best for the future and hope he can build up a decent career for himself.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Next manager...
« on: June 07, 2019, 03:51:20 PM »
Is this a new name in the pot? Stephen Kenny Ireland U21 coach, some rumour's I am hearing.

Haven't heard anything over in Ireland. Is due to take over the managerial reign of the senior Irish team from Mick McCarthy after the European Championships next year. Would doubt he be prepared to break that and wouldn't be overly keen despite his success with Dundalk in the Irish League and more pertinently in Europe.

General Football & Sports / Re: Boxing Thread
« on: June 05, 2019, 09:49:20 AM »
Joshua looked odd from the beginning, even before the fight when he was having that neck massage, he looked out of it to me.

The one thing I also found bizarre was the whole build up, with Joshua letting Ruiz hold the belts etc, after the fight Joshua smiling, didn't really look that bothered about losing the belts in all honesty.

Personally, a lot of this seems consistent with the glimpses of Joshua I have seen. Unlike a lot of other boxers; he never seems to be comfortable doing the whole "I hate the other fighter" act, he going down and all that. Seems to have a quiet self confidence and just focuses on the boxing, the mechanics and the fitness. When compared to almost all other boxers actions (either acting or natural) it may come off a bit like he lacks the desire or the like but seems to be a bit of his genuine self which got him this far.

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