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Mark Noble - new captain  ;D

Looking at West Ham players he has managed before, we could do a lot worse than taking Sam Byram off their hands.

I'm sure he was on our radar before his initial move there, spent last season out on loan at Forest (made 9 appearances but I haven't looked into if injuries limited that). Bilic was the one who signed him at West Ham.

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Bilic wouldn't have been my choice due to the huge rebuild needed and the fact he's never been near the dog fight we find ourselves in at this level .
That said he's here now and adds a freshness the club has needed , I only hope he is backed with some decent funds.
Welcome Slav and good luck.

You have stolen my thoughts. Whilst I am optimistic and happy with the appointment, a small part of me is nervous about the work that's needed to actually rebuild this squad once the wage bill has been reduced.

That being said, Slav seems an interesting character and I cant for one second think he would have taken this job without reassurances on being back in the transfer window.

Over to you again Dowling and Jenkins, time to back the bloke you want in the job and give him a fighting chance of getting us back up.

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General Football & Sports / Re: Anything Birmingham City
« on: June 13, 2019, 02:52:41 PM »
Neil Mobley Twitter Account

Good old Blues. A difficult situation made even worse with Monk’s exit. You’ve got to look at the bloke calling the shots. Points deduction, unnecessary loss of a manager, further financial distress on the horizon. Loss of best players, no room to replace. Fans let down. Again.

There’s always someone worse off than you. I do feel for the Blues fans, hope they can get over this.

It's been reported that he isn't leaving (yet) hasn't it?

Be a huge blow for Blues if he does leave, he has had them punching above their weight when you look at their squad and situation. I did read that one of the big problems was that he didn't want to sign Gary Gardner on a permanent but the club did it anyway, if that is the case then I really cant see him being there come start of the season.

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Happy with the appointment, shows a bit of ambition by the club which pleases me.

Have to be honest at times I was fearing the worst, when we were linked with O'Neil, Cowley, Bowyer etc I did have a feeling I would end up underwhelmed, but the appointment of Bilic is high profile and a big signing for a championship club.

If Boro had got Slaven in, then I'm sure many of us would have been annoyed we hadn't gone for him.

I'm quietly confident that he will get backing this summer to build his own team aswell, he doesn't seem the type to agree to come here without their being an agreement that he can bring in some players of his own and have some money to work with.

He has a week/10 days to assess the background of the club, have a look at the squad, identify what positions he wants to strengthen, then when the players come back he can have a chat with them and decide whos committed to being here for the season and who needs to be shifted out.

Good appointment by the club and one which will please 95% of the fans.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Fixtures 2019/2020
« on: June 13, 2019, 09:17:16 AM »
Just noticed that the Dingles are away saturday 10th August when we start our season a week earlier.

think i am right, but does that mean we will be away first game of the season then so we are then at home on saturday 10th August?

We could potentially play on the sunday depending on who our game would be against. Might be one that Sky would want to show.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Next manager...
« on: June 12, 2019, 03:53:44 PM »
In other words he wants his own people and the club are trying to get the existing staff to be kept on.

Stumbling block could potentially be Shan? Didn't the club say he would be kept on and probably pushing to have him as part of the new set up, Bilic might want a fresh start with all new staff and no ties to the club.


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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Under 23's/ Academy Thread
« on: June 12, 2019, 03:52:08 PM »
Not sure anyone can criticise Louie Barry if he did go to Barcelona, one look at their academy compared to ours and its a no brainer, even if he doesn't make it with them the coaching he will receive will be second to none and thats no disrespect to anyone at our club.

I don't think anyone is criticising Louie, think its more a case of being annoyed at the system, one where we are starting to produce players who are doing well for the academy and national sides, and then they're being cherry picked by the big clubs.

For what it's worth if I was in Barry's situation, I would be jumping at the chance of signing for Barca.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Under 23's/ Academy Thread
« on: June 12, 2019, 02:50:27 PM »

It's the biggest attraction in the world surely? Put yourself in Barry's shoes. Personally as an Albion fan I'd turn down the Liverpool's and Manchester's but Barcelona? To learn off Lionel Messi or Jake Livermore? Sometimes the opportunity is just impossible to refuse.

Yeah 100%, I said one of the biggest as I was considering Real Madrid, Juventus and then the likes of Man City (his generation will probably be all City fans now).

I think its very fair to say we wont ever see him in the WBA first team.

I would put my house on Morgan Rogers being the next one to be cherry picked.

That's the problem with the academy I guess, if a player of that age is performing exceptionally, then its likely on of the bigger clubs will take them before they get chance to be in our first team.

The best we can hope for is a couple of 'late bloomers' like Field etc,

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Under 23's/ Academy Thread
« on: June 12, 2019, 02:27:59 PM »
How good is this kid of ours?
Does Bilic have a track record of bringing young lads through to the first team?
How old is the kid,16?
Is he as good as Trevor Francis or Rooney at 16?
Surely Bilic would want to see all our players before letting him go and we wouldn't be so stupid to let him go before appointing a new HC would we?
If he is good enough play him,keep him in the first team squad it'd be great to see him succeed with us.

He's 15.
The one good factor is he's been at us from a very young age and is meant to be a big baggies fan, the downside is its arguably one of the biggest clubs in the world wanting him and there isn't really too much we can do about it.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Next manager...
« on: June 12, 2019, 11:25:19 AM »
The one bit of news which made me cautious yesterday was the whole 'the contract has been sent to the solicitors' thing.

Found that really bizarre and from memory I cant recall any other club releasing that type of information.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Salomon Rondon
« on: June 12, 2019, 10:27:04 AM »
Take the 16.5million and give it to Bilic to bring in a couple of faces.

Hoping Bilic will know of a couple of European gems to bring in for reasonable prices, and use his contacts to get some loans in.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Next manager...
« on: June 12, 2019, 10:25:23 AM »
The one good sign if it is Bilic will be he will have wanted reassurances from the board that he will have enough of a budget to build his own team.

He doesn't come across as a Yes man and from the outside it looks like an ambitious coup from the club to get him in.

You would argue Bilic and Bielsa are the two highest profile managers in the division.

Just hope he is given enough backing by the board to actually bring in some new faces and build his own team, and that goes for us fans aswell, this isn't going to be an easy job and we need to give the new man time.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Under 23's/ Academy Thread
« on: June 11, 2019, 06:11:18 PM »
Howkins has joined Newport county.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Next manager...
« on: June 11, 2019, 12:25:06 PM »
linky please? He’s been guaranteed a high position whether the new manager wants him as a coach or not, so for him to go would need a massive change of heart.

Shan doesn't seem the type to stick around if he's not wanted. I imagine if the new boss doesn't fancy Jimmy as part of his coaching staff, he will be off to a new adventure. He deserves more than returning to his under 23's job.


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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Next manager...
« on: June 11, 2019, 11:33:39 AM »
I think the fact our academy manager has now left us aswell, leaves another role that now needs to be filled.

We just seem to be on a bit of a downward spiral at the moment and its going to take a strong appointment to grab us by the scruff of the neck and wake us up.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Under 23's/ Academy Thread
« on: June 11, 2019, 10:11:49 AM »
Bit of a blow for the baggies

Percy reporting that Mark Harrison is leaving us after 13 years to join Villa in a similar role.


Has played a huge part in building our academy. I did hear a whisper that he has had a falling out with Jenkins but not sure on how much truth there is with that.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Next manager...
« on: June 11, 2019, 09:47:18 AM »
I think it will be Adkins now. They've had ample time to sort a deal with a number of out of work managers (Hughton, Jokanovic, Labbadia, Bilic to name a few), Bowyer and Wilder have apparently been considered along with Cowley. Maybe a couple of others have been considered too.

I recall Peace apparently liking Adkins a lot in the past which may influence Jenkins now. He's relatively cheap , can work on the cheap, will probably work in our 'model' (DoF puppet of Jenkins), plays decent football on the whole and has achieved promotions (Scunthorpe and Southampton). He'd be a safe, prudent (cheaper/ lower risk) option than others and probably wouldn't demand we reinvest too much money from player sales which is probably very important to Jenkins and Lai.

Adkins would be ok and would see us as a good step in his career as opposed to others who may wonder what hits them after they start work here and realise what a mess we've become. You never know it might just work out............he made a relative success of Hull who have also been in a mess.

Can't wait for the season to begin already!

Bang on mate.

The more I think about it, the more I can see Adkins being the one they choose.

The idea of getting Bilic in probably looks more like a coup for a championship team, but in all honesty I don't really see him being the man to rebuild a squad, I had a quick look at his signings at West Ham and he didn't really bring anyone of note in on the cheap, his better signings were big money deals, that isn't going to be an option this summer.

Hughton and Adkins like you said, represent a 'safer' pair of hands, more likely to steady the ship and less erratic.

I think the board and especially Jenkins would see Adkins as the ideal man, cheaper, knows the league, would see us as a potential step up, wont haggle over wages and will probably be happy to work on a tighter budget.

I wouldn't be surprised if the club haven't spoken to Adkins with the prospect of letting him have a few weeks off with a 'gentlemens agreement' to be the next boss, whilst keeping one eye on the Sheff United situation in the hope Wilder becomes available.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Salomon Rondon
« on: June 11, 2019, 09:02:24 AM »
I wish him well.

He gave his all for us when he was here, his conversion rate isn't the best but the effort and commitment he gives the team will always ensure he's a fans favourite.

I don't think the move to Wolves will be good for him, he will be rotated a lot with Jimenez and he won't get the luxury of any mistakes as he's coming from us.

Never the less, I thank him for his efforts, it couldn't have been easy playing in a Pulis team.

All the best Sal.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Next manager...
« on: June 11, 2019, 08:47:39 AM »
Personally I would prefer Hughton to Bilic.

I have warmed to the idea of Adkins, although he isn't the 'statement of intent', i think he would do a good job for us.

What's happened to Labaddia, is that one dead now or is it a case of us saying thanks - we will be in touch.

Still think there's a long way to go before we have an appointment.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Salomon Rondon
« on: June 10, 2019, 08:52:27 AM »
Absolutely no way Rondon will be loaned out again.

He will be sold this summer, if no one matches his release clause then he will be sold late in the window for around 10million just to recoup some money and free the wages.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Next manager...
« on: June 10, 2019, 08:49:42 AM »
When DM was sacked I truly believe the board thought they would be getting in Jokanovic, his wage demands changed and that left us looking silly.

With how long its taken the last few weeks, I can't see it being Labaddia, I think his interests in the job will have cooled now with how long its taken to go back to him.

I think the board would have liked Hughton but the mix of wanting a break and his wage demands has also killed that one.

Next on the list is Bilic, the board took a liking to him when he lost his job at West Ham but he wasn't interested, this time round we are probably his best bet, I'm guessing he will want a decent promotion bonus and wage increase should we go up, the club will be trying to get the cheapest deal, which again is another reason I think this one will die down.

Then I think the board will turn to Adkins, decent reputation, plays good enough football, knows the championship, experience in the prem, works on a budget, sounds like Jenkins' dream man.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Next manager...
« on: June 08, 2019, 11:21:10 PM »
Slightly dissapointed Labbadia not being mentioned now. There are no real clues whether  that is down to us or him.

If I was him I would have lost interest by now anyway.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Next manager...
« on: June 08, 2019, 09:25:39 PM »
I’ve warmed to the idea of Adkins. Think he’s quite underrated and if I remember rightly he was harshly sacked by Southampton (at the time).

I think Bilic would be more ambitious and probably has a better knowledge of some European players. However Adkins could probably rebuild the squad better.

If he can convince Bowen to come here aswell that would be great.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Next manager...
« on: June 08, 2019, 01:39:57 PM »
Adkins leaving Hull worries me that we could now leave an appointment to early July.




As an aside can we jib this a-z nonsense. Not remotely funny (see Zippy's post in Woodman) and clutters up the thread which is busy enough with rumours and innuendo as it is.

Got wba written all over it.

Has prem experience, has championship experience, used to budgets.

Jenkins will be buzzing.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Next manager...
« on: June 07, 2019, 03:21:39 PM »
Slavan in .Andy Carroll a cert to follow  :D

A fully fit Carroll in the championship would be an absolute beast.

I imagine he was on silly money at West Ham though and if we weren't willing to offer Gayle good money there is no chance of us signing Carroll.

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