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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Next manager...
« on: Yesterday at 06:18:15 PM »
No time for Reid. His disrespect towards Pepe Mel tainted an already no better than mediocre Albion career.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Next manager...
« on: Yesterday at 02:52:46 PM »
and you know that how? not saying you don't know, just interested in your source(s)


Boiler man told me...

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Non Sports/ Non Politics Board / Re: The Petition
« on: Yesterday at 02:19:55 PM »
Desperately trying to keep this non politcal so please play the game properly chaps
There is a quite amazing and sociologicaly interesting event currently sweeping twiter in the form of a petition (the subject of which is imaterial to this dicussion) that is about to break the one million signatures mark which is unprecidented on this particular petions website and there is so much traffic/activity it frequently goes down while they 'repair' it
You can quite literally sit and watch the number roll over in their thousands every few seconds and it tells us something, not sure what yet, about he current state of the national feelings and linked to the power of social media which is where it is being pushed out


Keep us updated if it gets above 17.4 million...  :D ;)

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Next manager...
« on: Yesterday at 02:18:49 PM »
It's not Wagner. Dowling wants Jokanovic. No idea what they are thinking not pulling the trigger now.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Next manager...
« on: Yesterday at 12:16:21 AM »
Perhaps your prime target was not the club's prime target. :D


Except it obviously was/is.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Next manager...
« on: March 20, 2019, 11:58:40 PM »
You don't know he was even a target for the job. You don't know who the club may have spoken to or been knocked back by. Just keep slagging the club off without any facts.....


Not often I agree with 82, but if you don't think the club has made a balls up of this sacking/appointment I'm not sure what they would need to do wrong to incur your ire... It's an absolutely abysmal performance in what is a straightforward market especially when your prime target is out of work.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: WM Football Phone In.
« on: March 20, 2019, 11:39:39 PM »
Another poor night for us, all 3 callers suggested Shan stay on, one wanted a Pearson/Shakespeare double act... Awful... When Wolves change manager do their fans clamour for a Steve Bull/John de Wolf double act, do Leicester fans wonder what Big Steve Walsh and Julian Joachim are upto? At Blues are the fans clamouring for Steve Claridge and Ricky Otto? I CANNOT UNDERSTAND this obsession with former Albion players. It's unique to the game (since Liverpools bootroom came to an end in the late 80's) and totally unnecessary and certainly unwanted. I might have to ring in myself, if I ever get home from work on time.

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General Football & Sports / Re: OFFICIAL CHAMPIONSHIP THREAD
« on: March 20, 2019, 02:10:43 PM »
Bolton high court case adjourned for a fortnight. If they don't get the tax bill sorted by then it's curtains. Mid season or not.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Next manager...
« on: March 20, 2019, 01:55:48 PM »

So, if we can't get Jokanovic for whatever reason what then? Appoint someone we don't want for the sake of it? Appoint Allardyce because he's available and a "proper" manager.?

There's no need to panic, there really isn't.

PS! Appleton has nothing to do with this situation now whatsoever................ unless we appoint him as manager of course.

Just keep calm folks.


Allardyce until the end of the season would be eminently preferable to sticking with Shan.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Next manager...
« on: March 20, 2019, 01:50:38 PM »
No it buys us time. He may have been in charge for only two games (admitted) but he's won both. He's clearly not absolutely useless, and is perfectly capable of guiding us at least until we get to the stage where we need to re-evaluate the squad. He can't do that now, we have to work with what we have.What new manager is going to know the squad better than Jimmy Shan?


We don't need to buy time. We need to buy the services of an actual football manager for what are likely to be the 3 most important games this club has played for a decade. We cannot rely on a novice in the play offs. The 2nd half of Appletons match against West Ham is enough to tell you that.


Very blasé stance you are taking here.

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General Football & Sports / Re: OFFICIAL CHAMPIONSHIP THREAD
« on: March 20, 2019, 09:22:30 AM »
The local Boro rag has gone to town on Pulis for the first time since he has been there. Friend of mine who lives up that way reckons it is as if they were awaiting a green light from the club to do it as the same happened with Karanka who was then gone a week later.

I said it a few years ago with Pulis, other than an initial six month burst where players can see the results improving so buy into his rigid way of training and playing, he is just completely out of touch with the modern game. If we had gotten rid of him in the May when I called for it instead of waiting until November I really believe we would still be a Premier League club.

He needs to leave the game.


Similarly if the club had given him until the end of last season we'd still be a Premier League club, in fact there is nothing to say they would have made the correct appointment (see Pardiola) had they done it when you suggested...

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: WM Football Phone In.
« on: March 19, 2019, 08:27:30 PM »
Wilford was hosting tonight, the Albion callers again weren't great, to a man wanted Shan to stay on. Crazy stuff...

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General Football & Sports / Re: OFFICIAL CHAMPIONSHIP THREAD
« on: March 19, 2019, 08:22:00 PM »
Won't happen, will be a points deduction like others have received before.


The club may fold which is the issue here, they will definitely get a points deduction because they are going into administration. If the administrators wind them up before the end of the season, because they will be unable to fulfill their remaining fixtures all the other results of games involving them will be expunged. We will find ourselves 3 points better off than the 3 clubs above us in this scenario.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Promotion race 2018/2019
« on: March 19, 2019, 07:08:11 PM »
Would this make the opening day defeat a masterstroke by Darren?  ;D ;)

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Next manager...
« on: March 19, 2019, 02:34:23 PM »
Knowing the club is not a reason to employ someone, in fact where we are concerned it should be an active reason not to... This is hugely disappointing that it's even rumoured; we need a completely fresh start.


Just go and get Slavisa Jokanovic.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: WM Football Phone In.
« on: March 19, 2019, 12:44:40 AM »
Every platform for people to speak their mind will always involve opinions you disagree with. Saying they make themselves look stupid because they have a different opinion is a bit much. And if you dislike the programme so much I'm not sure why you listen. I turn callers down who spout rubbish but I'm not bothered if their opinion reflects badly on me as an Albion fan. They're the ones that sound daft. Ultimately what's said, be it utterly ridiculous or simply breathtaking, it won't make an ounce of difference to the team's performance.

There are deluded people in every avenue of life. I'd much rather listen to the radio where i can turn it down than hear some of the nonsense i hear at matches around me.


I like the show? Hopefully no one off here is a regular caller though...

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Next manager...
« on: March 19, 2019, 12:43:26 AM »
We used to have the same stats when Mowbray was here and the fundamental flaws in his management meant he's never progressed beyond a championship manager.

Given Potter won't be given a big pot of money to rebuild like Mowbray was I'd suggest he'll run into the same problems. Any team that struggles to defend set pieces like Swansea do is always going to be up against it in this league. One of those fundamental flaws that separates out managers.


We'll agree to disagree. Mowbray gave us the best football since Ossie and at a higher level. Not sure why you're talking about anything other than Championship as Monk has failed in his only Premier League job.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Next manager...
« on: March 19, 2019, 12:35:54 AM »
Blues had literally no money to spend. Swansea had some money to spend and a better team to begin with.

It got somewhat worse for them in January but by then it was clear they weren't going up anyway.

Bristol City had their star striker, centre back, and left back all sold off. Spent 2.5m in the summer. Swansea losing players and not getting huge funds to replace them isn't unique by championship standards. Potter is doing nothing that the likes of Johnson, Monk, Neil and Adkins aren't doing elsewhere. And Wilder is doing better than them all.


Now go and have a look at every passing stat for the entire league.


What were your thoughts on Farke last season?

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Next manager...
« on: March 19, 2019, 12:26:50 AM »
Complete powderpuff football, far too easy to beat - you say no investment, they've still spent more and have a far better squad than a bunch of teams above them.

Potter benefits from being fashionable from his time in Sweden. There's a bunch of managers who've done jobs with worse quality ,worse budgets in the league. How you can slag off Monk who's had it far more difficult then claim Potter will have them top 2 next season is beyond me.


Mind boggles if you think Monk has had it worse than Potter. Have a read about swansea this year.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: WM Football Phone In.
« on: March 19, 2019, 12:12:14 AM »
It's not a discussion programme, it's designed to be controversial. Not worth listening to IMO.


On the contrary, they give the fan the opportunity to make themselves look stupid before the smug presenters confirm it. Unlike TalkSport this is entirely down to the caller rather than the presenter.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / WM Football Phone In.
« on: March 18, 2019, 11:17:07 PM »
So I've been listening to this online while I've been off work last week, we come off terribly on it compared to fans of the other W. Mids clubs? Who on earth is phoning in?


Thought this could become a regular thread to discuss the Albion related calls on there. I've barely agreed with one call this past week, from numerous people calling for Shan to remain in situ, to someone saying Moyes and Puel the only obvious choices. The mind boggles.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Next manager...
« on: March 18, 2019, 11:05:06 PM »
If he wins every game to get us promoted he would rightfully get the job!

It's not like Moore was a disaster. Had we gone for the tried and tested option of a rowett things could be much worse. Likewise the up and coming coach potter hasn't done anything.


If you can't see what Potter has done for Swansea I despair... They will be top 2 next season with no investment.

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General Football & Sports / Re: Dingle watch - Anything Wolves
« on: March 18, 2019, 09:39:45 PM »
It's probably worth a bet that is to be honest! Sods law, you know it'd probably happen. We'll never hear the end of it! It'd be a cack season if we had no proper rivals to play!


Like the last 6/7 seasons then...  ;D

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General Football & Sports / Re: Ben Foster (Sold to Watford)
« on: March 17, 2019, 04:58:44 PM »
Gomes has been playing the cup games but I assume Fozzy will come back in for the semi. Some one send him a Boing Boing tee, to wear under his shirt. ;D

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General Football & Sports / Re: OFFICIAL CHAMPIONSHIP THREAD
« on: March 17, 2019, 04:48:20 PM »
Not sure how you can parallel the two to be completely honest. I have always felt with you that you have your standpoint, as I do, but you have always provided logical arguments in support of yours, but I am starting to buy into what others say about you recently.

Moore hasn't worked out because of his assistant. Ok, who wanted him as his assistant? Darren. Who was in charge and could have quite easily either removed him or stopped using what he was telling him to do? Darren. Who had the whole summer to work with the squad and get his message across as well as bring signings in? Darren.


One criticism levelled at Moore is we are where we are in spite of him. This applies threefold for Smith who gets results when Jack plays and provides relegation form when he doesn't. In contrast Moore continued to pick up points AFTER Harvey Barnes left. It's not a difficult comparison to make...


We also took 4 points out of Smith, he took 1 (with Grealish). Smith track record is top 10 Championship, he's still there, that isn't good enough for us. As an aside Brentford actually got worse under him (compared to Warburton) something you have never alluded to.


Regards Darren of course he takes the lion share of the blame for his dismissal but I refuse to believe that loyalty is a bad thing when there is so little of it left in football.

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