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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Jonathan Leko
« on: Yesterday at 11:22:38 AM »
As with Keiron Gibbs, I fail to understand why getting this lad off the books is seemingly being prioritised.

There are other far more pressing issues to be addressed, which they may well be, but we are not being informed, which does beg the question why the list issued doesn't extend to the key problem areas. 

He's one of the few with any value would be my guess. Burke and Zohore are also on the list but probably have a combined value of £3.50. Throw in Kanu and Phillips and there's not a wealth of saleable value.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Jonathan Leko
« on: August 05, 2020, 04:25:28 PM »
He's too far down the pecking order now and probably never going to be Prem quality. May as well let him go but build in a sell-on clause, just in case he has a Traore style epiphany.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Grady Diangana (on loan from West Ham)
« on: August 05, 2020, 04:23:27 PM »
I believe WHU want £20m but just a rumour obviously. I imagine 15m would get him.
This just baffles me, why on earth would West Ham even consider letting him go when they are so poor? If they still think they are too good for him, they are more deluded than I thought.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Kieran Gibbs
« on: August 05, 2020, 01:30:49 PM »
West Bromwich Albion will listen to offers for former England defender Kieran Gibbs, £15 million signing Oliver Burke and Kenneth Zohore as they prepare for the Premier League.

Slaven Bilic is keen to trim his bloated squad following promotion from the Championship and will move to offload a number of fringe players, with Sam Field and Jonathan Leko also to be made available.

Gibbs, the former Arsenal left-back, will see his wages doubled to £55,000 a week following promotion and only made 15 appearances last season.

West Brom are set to move for Wigan defender Antonee Robinson, 22, so Gibbs is free to leave the Hawthorns this summer for a minimal fee.

Burke, the big-money signing from Red Bull Leipzig, and Zohore will also be cleared to go as Albion move to lower their wage bill and make space for their 25-man squad.

Meanwhile, West Brom are set to tie up the £8.25 million signing of Matheus Pereira later this month.

Pereira will officially complete a permanent move to the Championship runners-up when he signs the paperwork on his return from holiday.

The Brazilian winger triggered a clause to make his move permanent when he passed 30 appearances for the club in June.

Signed on loan from Sporting Lisbon in August, Pereira was one of the Championship’s stand-out players under Slaven Bilic.

West Brom are also poised to start talks with Benfica over another loan deal for Croatian midfielder Filip Krovinovic.
If we can get £3m for Gibbs, the sale of all three should see us pocket £3,000,002.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Mark Jenkins
« on: August 04, 2020, 10:58:14 AM »
Could be a good thing to have someone with a direct link to the owner, especially if he's also close to Dowling, may be able to persuade Lai to loosen the purse strings a bit!

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Kenneth Zohore
« on: July 30, 2020, 12:12:24 PM »
Possible next destination for Mr Burke perhaps?
A turkey to Turkey?? Sounds do-able.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Players for the Premier League
« on: July 30, 2020, 10:36:05 AM »
what SKY think we mention of a goalkeeper.

Sky Sports insight: Which positions are West Brom targeting?
Premier League new boys West Brom are looking to recruit across the squad. Their top priorities are a goalscorer and a box-to-box midfielder.

In defence, they are presently looking for a centre-back, right-back and left-back, too.

What do the stats say?
More than a third of the goals West Brom conceded were from set-pieces; only Cardiff conceded more than the Baggies' 16 from dead-ball situations. In fact, among the Championship's top six, only the Bluebirds allowed their opponents more shots from outside the box than the Baggies' 204. A case then for defensive reinforcements alongside some organisational work.

The manager's view
Slaven Bilic on his approach: "We have a good team, we have breadth, we need quality. We have to do something similar to Sheffield United, not like Aston Villa, and not like Norwich. We need to invest but in quality. The majority of the guys we have counted on here are going to play in the Premier League because they deserve it. Over the whole season, the players have been fantastic. I really believe that some of them will be more suited to the Premier League."

What do West Brom need? Sky Sports analysis
Sky Sports' Simeon Gholam: "The first area that needs to be addressed for West Brom is up front. They spent big money on Kenneth Zohore last summer - but he didn't make any kind of impression - while Hal Robson-Kanu and Charlie Austin have a lot to do to prove they are still cut out for Premier League football.

"Another centre-back may help, too. Semi Ajayi was excellent in their promotion push but Kyle Bartley and Ahmed Hegazi won't convince for me back in the top flight. Slaven Bilic may look for a central midfielder, too, to provide some competition to Romaine Sawyers and Jake Livermore, while full-back is also an area he may look to strengthen. Kieran Gibbs endured injury problems last season and the rest of their options in those areas are untested at Premier League level.

"In wide and creative areas, they possess the brilliant Matheus Pereira, Matty Phillips has shown he can excel in the Premier League in the past and Kamil Grosicki could be a good alternative. They do, however, need to convince West Ham to either let them take Grady Diangana on again, or find a suitable replacement. They didn't look the same without the young winger when he was out injured last season."
I'd say, keeper aside, that is a fair assessment. Have Sky found a reporter who actually does research or is he an Albion fan?

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Slaven Bilic
« on: July 30, 2020, 09:14:27 AM »
A valid point but, in my personal opinion, he will not make it as a premier league player.
Yep, think it will be a story of what could have been. Obviously talented but never really commanded any specific position or style.
Injuries obviously haven't helped but think this ship has sailed and he'll be sold.
If he can stay injury free though, he will still have a decent career, just not at the top level.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Oliver Burke
« on: July 29, 2020, 12:40:43 PM »
He’s not going to come good, end of. We will have to cut our losses at some stage.
How long is his contract???
Seems like he's been here forever.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Kenneth Zohore
« on: July 29, 2020, 12:39:41 PM »
He has never got above 1 goal in 4 games at any club he has played for. Which begs the question, when we needed a goalscorer, by what logic did someone at our club think it made sense to pay good money for him?
Ok I give in.

Wonder if he's any good in goal :-[ :P

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Kenneth Zohore
« on: July 29, 2020, 12:05:15 PM »
He has to agree to be transferred, even if another club wanted him (unlikely).
That was the point I was making really. If we can't get anyone to buy him, we either: Pay him to do nowt. Pay him to play for someone else. Or, try to get something out of him on the pitch.
Of the 3, the last one is the most efficient, unfortunately it's also probably the most unlikely.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Charlie Austin
« on: July 29, 2020, 09:45:23 AM »
I agree, yes he needs to work hard pre season but if he hits the season in good shape, could well provide vital goals.
I actually thought he finished the season looking much fitter.
Out of the 3 he's certainly the most valuable, if only for his enthusiasm and character alone. If we can get him fit, he could still play a part on the pitch also.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Romaine Sawyers
« on: July 29, 2020, 09:43:30 AM »
For what it’s worth, I thought he was brilliant against QPR. Seemed to get the ball forward a lot more and have a little more license
I think he's been brilliant throughout the season but clearly the pressure got to him post-lockdown. Reading that though it's understandable, he really has the club at heart and to hear a footballer refer to themselves as a "fan" is something I can't remember for a long time.
In top 3 players for me this season and, hopefully, will kick on next year and be key to further success.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Kenneth Zohore
« on: July 29, 2020, 09:25:05 AM »
As it's unlikely that we will recoup much in terms of a transfer, is there any way we can get a tune out of this guy?
Maybe one to one training in pre-season, something to build confidence? I know we've seen very little in terms of ability but, if it is in there, maybe, just maybe we can push the right buttons, or his he just a write off?

We've had similar conversations regarding Burke, with many feeling, at least early on, that if we just found the key we could have a decent player. That of course never came to pass and we gave up on flogging that dead horse.
So is Zohore destined for the same outcome? Loaned out (with us likely still paying a percentage) until his lengthy contract runs out, or is there still hope?

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Yo Yo Tag
« on: July 28, 2020, 11:49:06 AM »
Let's be honest these pundits are the same as the rest of the media and focused on the top 6. They know nothing about the rest of the division and don't bother to research.
The Yo-Yo tag is now outdated but it's stuck and makes it easy for these muppets to make a comment without doing any actual work.
Who cares. Yo-Yoing is better than anything we had with Pulis so I'd rather get rid of that stink.

Doom and gloom even before the god dam fixtures are out.  :o  I know it is all about opinions but come on have some bloody belief PLEASE ;)
No doom or gloom from me I'm just realistic. We will very likely struggle and I'm ok with that, I'm even ok if we go down as long as we stick to our current style. I'd rather that than resort to some Pulis type monster and stay up by our finger tips.

This is a free hit for me, give it a go and see what happens but don't expect miracles.

I expect us to be relegated but am not too bothered really, as long as we cut our cloth accordingly and can still compete in the championship the following season. We are getting a bit heavy with rubbish players on too long contracts (Kanu, Zohore, Burke, Phillips, Austin) which may hamper our business, but we have to make sure we do not add to that list and ensure whatever signings we do make are astute and future proof.

As for winning games, the likes of Burnley, Saints, Everton will be fair game, but I think our closest rivals will be Leeds + 1, Brighton, West Ham, Palace and Sheff Utd and we'll need to finish above 3 of them to stay up.

Sadly, I think Villa will be stronger next season and, whilst Wolves will struggle to replicate this season's antics, they will consolidate top half.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Talksport
« on: July 24, 2020, 01:41:20 PM »
Stoke are still recovering from the Pulis stigma so we have an awful long way to go before we win back hearts and minds. Bilic is good media though so hopefully can repair some of the damage.
I don't listen to Talksport, not so much because of their attitude towards us, more because it's innocuous bilge spouted by clueless ass-hats.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: callum morton
« on: July 24, 2020, 11:04:47 AM »
I agree but I don’t see any avenues for them to leave the club unless someone is foolish enough to buy them.

I cannot see a scenario where we purchase two new strikers and have four or five players all competing for one position. It’s eats too much into our wage budget.

If we cannot shift anyone then I would expect one addition with Austin and HRK as the supporting cast.
Wake me up in 2022  :'(

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: callum morton
« on: July 24, 2020, 10:34:56 AM »
This for me is the crux of the matter. Youngsters can make step changes in their development and here you can use the example of Mason Greenwood and as such pushing them into the first team is a risk we should take a little bit more frequently. Yet the key as with every other decision around player recruitment retention and development is tactical fit and were there isn't an obvious one it is hard to champion a young players cause.
You could then also question the decision to send him to a club with such a drastically different style to ours.
I'm not saying he is the answer to our striking issues, far from it, just that it would be nice to see a kid come through rather than keep wasting money on dross like Kanu and Zohore.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: callum morton
« on: July 24, 2020, 10:17:01 AM »
I really don’t see it considering we operate with one forward - and Bilic’s preference is no doubt someone with a bit more of a physical presence for us to play into.

With a new addition, Austin & Robson Kanu, I just don’t see where he will feature or be awarded the chance.

This is not me knocking the kid - but I think he is far more likely to play a part should we be relegated next season.
If these two are still prominent in our plans then I really do fear for us. How we get rid of them, I don't know but, by hook or by crook, we need at least two new strikers.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: callum morton
« on: July 24, 2020, 09:58:30 AM »
Thankfully he won’t be in and around our first team next season. We need to ensure our survival and we will not manage that by taking risks on young players who have had a good three months in league two.

He needs another loan spell to continue his development in either league one or the championship.
Ferguson wasn't in contention until Bilic rocked up, so never say never. If the loan has done it's job and honed his skills then he may get half a chance. Can he really be worse than the Lesser Spotted Zohore?

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Kenneth Zohore
« on: July 24, 2020, 09:56:08 AM »
Staggeringly he has another three years on his contract... I think we will struggle to shift him..
Wow, he has one damn good agent!
Don't know what we do with him now we are promoted, he is of no use whatsoever.
Don't we still have Burke on the books as well?

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Bilic - back him or sack him?
« on: July 24, 2020, 09:37:39 AM »
I was very critical of Bilic after the Huddersfield game as I think he got it very wrong. I also think that, in general, since the restart, the pressure has got to him and he's made some strange decisions. He did get s over the line though, so,  whilst this is a worry for next season, as the pressure will be cranked up 1000% and the defeats will come thick and fast, he deserves a chance to improve the squad and give it a go. I like him as a character, I like his style of football and his philosophy, just worry about his ability to handle pressure when things aren't going well.
Worst case scenario would be to sack him and get in a Pulis type cretin, just to try and stay in the greed league. Whatever happens we should stick with him for the season. (my view on this will change after rubbish results because I'm fickle when angry)
To be honest though, provided no change to the parachute payment structure, I have no real issue with coming back down.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Players for the Premiership.
« on: July 23, 2020, 10:47:08 AM »
Lolley or Cash from Forest. Grabban had a good season also but 32 so no.
Jed Wallace Millwall
Grant Huddersfield

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