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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: The FA Cup
« on: May 20, 2020, 11:23:05 AM »
My mother and father, and my Uncle Frank all went down in my uncle’s new Ford Escort. I remember it as a cold, overcast day, but the sun broke through in extra time and Jeff scored. What a great day.

I’d been to Wembley the season before for the 2-3 defeat to QPR, I was there again in ‘70 for the Man City game, and in between I’d been to Hillsboro fir the Leicester semifinal.

Back then I thought it was always going to be like that, either semi finals, finals or winning stuff every year.

Very similar memories to yours Chipper, but would add the soaking at Maine Road in the second Liverpool replay. Me and a couple of mates went down to Wembley on the official coaches but ended up drinking all night with some Everton lads in a pub somewhere near the old Arsenal ground. The gaffer let us stay the night and we then caught the early train to New St from Euston. All a bit of a blur really but we all stayed in touch for some years until things like getting married or going abroad got in the way. Ah such happy times supporting this club.



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Non Sports/ Non Politics Board / Re: Coronavirus
« on: April 25, 2020, 12:31:08 PM »
Its almost irrelevant whether Trump's advice was incorrect or not. There's no way he should be getting involved with something he's not qualified to talk about. Doctors and medical specialists spend years studying, and learning about the effects of drugs in day-to-day medical practice.

https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-us-canada-52421673/coronavirus-doctors-dismantle-trump-s-treatment-comments

These doctors are certainly dismissive about his advice, but at a common sense level, the idea of injecting yourself with household disinefectant seems nutty. Every bottle I've seen has warnings plastered across saying not to swallow. Sadly though, because of Trump's influence, there will be some who hang on every word he says.

Yep only too true. However at the risk of being accused of total insensitivity, maybe the gene pool would be improved?

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Been doing some thinking, and at this point I wish to make it clear that I am not a 'football fan' in the widest sense I am an ALBION fan. I prefer the national team to win rather than lose but not overly bothered, and I really do not give a fig for the prem or the top clubs the greed league.
This season has tragically and through no fault of the clubs concerned, been curtailed, but that is the way it is and completing outstanding games does not look to be a viable option. Therefore this season should be deemed over and called off The present league standings of all clubs in regard to relegation and promotion should count as of when the decision was made to cancel all games. Those teams in the relegation places are there because they have less points than those above them and that is the only concrete fact. It MIGHT be that some, in the next nine or ten games MIGHT get enough points to stay up, but this is all conjecture. The same applies to the top places, these teams are where they are because they have gained more points than the others. Any of these teams MIGHT lose enough of their remaining games to drop from their current status, but yet again, without playing it is mere guesswork and conjecture. The season should be finished and each team should get what it has earned not what it MIGHT earn. This way leads to the perfect scenario based purely on existing factual real time knowledge  - The Baggies go up and the vile come down. The rest is irrelevant, except that I can't think of a way to get West Ham and spuds down as well.

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Albion Matchday Forum / Re: After Match Debate
« on: March 07, 2020, 05:20:32 PM »
very difficult to play 12 v 11 when one of theirs has the power to stop the game and gain advantage. Physical challenges allowed for one side and not for the away side. 0-0 not a bad result under these circumstances. Some decent all round performances from us but players are not robots so sometimes marred by the odd- but often important error. Onwards and upwards, can chase Leeds now instead of being top and a target. Need to re-find that touch in front of goal again, but from where??? COYB

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Albion Matchday Forum / Re: Team
« on: March 04, 2020, 10:56:12 AM »
me or our cat but the cat would struggle with the high balls

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not bad from the younger guys. Just cannot understand the love in with the premier mob This was a bunch of Albion players who in the main struggle to make the bench let alone the first team. One First team regular midfielder ripped newcastle apart and had em chasing and running scared at 0-3with the ref giving them plenty of help. You beat a reserve championship side tonight bonny lads - nothing to shout about

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General Football & Sports / Re: Seals watch - Anything Villa
« on: February 16, 2020, 01:41:22 PM »
Oh Lord how I hate Tottenham and that dirty diving deli Ali  (even the name sounds like a row of shanties selling dubious cooked meat products) BUT today and just for this match and one other I hope they put dodgy dean and greasy jack's mob to the sword and send em back where they belong, in the deep and dirty stuff. Ideally greasy jack and deli the diver end up fighting each other and get a long term ban apiece. Chicken badges 6 vile 0 would be a good result for me

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Albion Matchday Forum / Re: After Match Debate
« on: February 15, 2020, 04:25:14 PM »
Don't think the FA can do anything to Livermore because the ref dealt with the situation by giving a free kick so he must have seen it.
yep you are right. just me feeling hard done to about missing out on 3 points and my intense dislike of Skye and particularly goodman. Also seems worse when forced to watch on an intermittent link and not there in person.

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Albion Matchday Forum / Re: After Match Debate
« on: February 15, 2020, 03:11:44 PM »
don't see where forest had bad decisions go against them that much.Seemed to me about 50/50, thought they were very lucky to still have 11 on the pitch after their cynical start. Must be ok to try to injure opponents in the first 20 mins.  Consistently trying to break up play by fouling for the rest of the game they were given 1 point more than they deserved. We have not got away with anything yet, Livermore's 'defensive stud display' will, if Skye and mr don godawfulman have anything to do with it, result in yet another retrospective trial by tv red card for one of our players. Forest did seem particularly adept at tangling other players legs and getting free kicks for it though, and by the oldest trick in the book of stepping back into a covering player and diving forward as if fouled. This it seems meets the approval of mr godawfulman.

Still need a goalkeeper who understands and reads the game, and bosses the 6 yard box with a centre half who can work with him to do the same. I do not believe this is SJ and KB, still as others have said if forest are the best of the rest there is not too much to concern us. Promotion is entirely in our own hands, onwards and upwards COYB

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Albion Matchday Forum / Re: In Game Chat
« on: February 15, 2020, 01:40:54 PM »
ball across the goal 3 yards out Bartley knows keeper not taking it like he should so had no option but to get something on it. Same old story a half competent keeper takes that every time - we ain't got though so concede again and again, and need to score at least 2 to get anything. A decent experienced keeper and this defence improves 100%. We can still win this but need some protection from their persistent fouling of our flair players. Skye commentary very pro forest which is annoying me  frustrated as I am not to actually be there COYB

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Albion Matchday Forum / Re: Pre Match Chat
« on: February 15, 2020, 12:33:26 PM »

If you don't learn your job from a full season with an imperious John Terry in front of him you never will.


I don't see him learning on the job, I see him regressing rapidly.
Just trying to be positive and make the best of a bad job Mate. Spectacular fail in this instance then, maybe because we both know he ain't never going to dominate is he?

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Albion Matchday Forum / Re: Pre Match Chat
« on: February 14, 2020, 09:43:10 PM »
Johnstone will rightfully start.

Reckon this will be a draw
 
Never been a fan of SJ, then I thought about it a bit more and realised I am watching  a relatively young goalkeeper learning on the job and actually trying to improve. OK he makes a few errors, and is not solid, but he has also played very well at times so I will do my best to whinge about him a bit less and be a bit more supportive. So come on Sam be big and be loud, boss your area and keep this lot at bay.
Hoping for a significant 2 or 3 goal victory against forest. Never liked this lot much

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Sam Johnstone
« on: February 10, 2020, 10:25:02 AM »
I am a big critic oF Sj, I just don't think he is a good keeper. However he did well yesterday by doing the basic things I would expect from a goalkeeper any this level, in other words a vast improvement on most pst performances. If he keeps this up and keeps trying to improve he might just do. Well done SJ.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Chris Brunt
« on: January 31, 2020, 09:05:37 PM »
If you do go - All the best Chris. Thanks for the many years of sterling service with some magic moments. I do believe you are one of the last of the great clubmen. I can't think of any time when you let our club or supporters down. Pity it might be Stoke, one of our rivals we have often struggled to beat, but fully understand the draw of joining up with Mr O'Neil for a last challenge. Once again good luck and many thanks, your presence at The Hawthorns will always be welcomed.

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Albion Matchday Forum / Re: After Match Debate
« on: January 28, 2020, 10:31:06 PM »
It seems a bit knee jerk to talk about sacking a manager when there is nobody who will come here to replace him who would do any better with this very limited bunch of footballers. There are of course a couple of exceptions, we all know who they are. but the rest have now reverted top type after a very good run in the first part of the season. Players like Livermore, Phillips, Bartley HRK have all had their good games, albeit not recently. Others such as Sawyers need the guys in front of them to make intelligent runs to create space, he works generally ok with Krov, but the others have gone back to the static slow thoughtless style we all know and love. Hegazi until his injury was deemed a decent cb and will be again in the right partnerships. There is one exception to this and that is SJ - a constant failure to maintain basic goalkeeping skills in handling strength, reading the game, organising his defence and being a strong presence in the six yard box leads to fear of every ball coming into our area either from the wings or from a big lump up the  middle being a scoring opportunity. This was so different when Bond played regardless of who his defenders were. This for me is the main change required. The next simple change is for Barry to play instead of Livermore even if only for an hour or so. His vast experience allows him to read the game so much better and to be where he is needed at the right time. His calmness ability and confidence on the ball also p[ays dividends with a good range of passing which will improve our creativity. Up  front Charlie needs a run to get in the habit box scoring again. he again is not quick in any sense of the word but experience and instinct added to ability and confidence will get goals. I hope also to see some new faces to refresh the side and to improve the quality in the positions in the spine of the team to give us the momentum to return to winning ways . This season has a long way to go yet and if we get it right we will get promoted  - getting it wrong is unthinkable

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Romaine Sawyers
« on: January 21, 2020, 02:15:41 PM »
Tend to agree with all the posts regarding lack of movement in opponents half. Nobody except MP showing for the ball so he was always surrounded by at least 3 opposition players. As well as Sawyers, Hegazi and Bartley only ever had the option of giving it to a well marked Periera or trying to find wide player 40 yards or more away and not really looking for it anyway. It was never any use trying to find either of our front 2 because it just came back immediately due to lack of pace, nous or ability. If there aint nobody to pass to what are you going to do? 

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Albion Matchday Forum / Re: After Match Debate
« on: January 20, 2020, 10:49:57 PM »
Not a great goal to give away, 3 or 4 all culpable and an element of fortune as hegazi with no support  gets to the ball but hits their player with it and it runs through for him  to knock it across. there is still no Albion player near enough to challenge. Then our fragile confidence drains away and we just start lumping it to their big central defenders.When we did try to pass it a. bit it was too slow and nobody was making decent runs forward. Stoke like a few before them soon realised they could get away with quite a bit of strong-arm stuff which in the absence of protection for the likes of MP is the way to negate our often limited movement and ball carrying ability. I don't advocate us becoming a team of diving jacks but sometimes the foul needs highlighting rather than trying to play through it. maybe very short term CB can do a job as left back, because we don't seem to have any other viable option. I thought Hegazi would improve the defence but  t still seems Ajayi and Bartley pairing is the best we've got at the moment.Still hoping for a turn around in performance and results, but we do need fresh blood,The next win, wherever it comes from will see a different attitude

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Sam Johnstone
« on: January 11, 2020, 05:40:26 PM »
I have said for a while now SJ is inconsistent, he is behind Count Dracula when it comes to crosses, his positioning is suspect as is his handling, and his command of the box is simply missing altogether. Sometimes his distribution is ok but sometimes it’s  appalling. Now is time for a change. We will never know if if anyone else on the books could do a job if we don’t give them an opportunity to stake their claim. Failing that we need a new one. We just need the keeper to be competent and consistent and able to organise his defenders and to have a presence in the box. He doesn’t need to be brilliant just competent and consistent.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Sam Johnstone
« on: December 30, 2019, 03:23:44 PM »
Their first was a good delivery to a good header of the ball. Sometimes with good defence you prevent the attacker getting it right, sometimes you don’t. Second goal was a world class strike one of those tried when there is nothing much else on and comes off once in a thousand times. I am a big critic of SJ but not too much he could have done at the time about either of these. However I am certain that a steadier goalkeeper who can control his area and organise his defence would be a better option even if not quite as good at the desperate stuff. With more control and better organisation from the back a lot of the “shot stopping” might not be so essential

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Albion Matchday Forum / Re: After Match Debate
« on: December 30, 2019, 01:46:34 PM »
I can't stand that attitude, policing how other fans attend games and support their teams. It's not the fans fault that we lost that game, but "everything will be ok if we cheer louder".

Cheering louder can help, but even justifiable moaning, and that is something we excel at, rarely improves performance. Constructive criticism however is a different animal and is something many on here do try to offer, and for which we get called moaners. There is little as a supporter we can do except support vocally at the game and try to be constructive and balanced afterwards.
Having said that at the game I tend to believe every ref is against us and that all other teams are blatant cheats and divers. After the game and with a fair and balanced examination of what has happened -

I find myself still of exactly the same opinion

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Sam Johnstone
« on: December 26, 2019, 06:05:28 PM »
Have been and still to some extent still am very critical of SJ. However credit where it is due, he made some excellent saves today, so well done and thanks. Still wish he would find the confidence and ability to dominate in his area though. He could single -handedly improve our defence by 50%

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Sam Johnstone
« on: December 15, 2019, 10:28:44 AM »
Our problem with zonal marking is that SJ does not control his zone. Except perhaps the bit along the white line between the sticks, and sometimes not even all of that bit

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Sam Johnstone
« on: December 14, 2019, 04:42:57 PM »
Not just his inconsistent shot stopping nor his poor catching and judgement from distance, but the total lack of presence in his area. He is a nightmare for defenders who have not got a clue if he is going to come or if he has a shot covered or not. It then becomes the defenders responsibility to deal with situations the keeper should be taking charge of, and mistakes are never far away.  I am not saying he is useless, he does make some excellent saves, but a steady keeper who can develop and work as a team wth his defenders would I am sure result in far more clean sheets than we are getting at present and would make us far more difficult to scor against generally

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Diving
« on: December 06, 2019, 12:52:05 PM »
Totally agree with most of what has been said about cheating and trying to get a fellow professional punished, especially by feigning injury. However I just don’t get the fuss about WBA getting a doubtful penalty. Long may it continue just to make up for all the times opponents have done it to us and all the times we have not been given an obvious and justified penalty. What goes around should come around, maybe we are overdue for some good fortune in this matter.

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Albion Matchday Forum / Re: After Match Debate
« on: November 23, 2019, 05:22:53 PM »
Held up fairly well against a very physical, borderline dirty side, a side with a plan to try to stop our key talent by any means. Sheffield United are a good team and will cause many teams problems. With our best midfield missing we did not play well but found a way to win. Pretty satisfied with this one, and expect on another day we put it all together and give somebody a right tanking.

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