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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Sam Johnstone
« on: Today at 05:50:11 PM »
But it’s only those who mention his weakness that are being unfair or daft?

Thought he had a good game today, more than the pen save I was really pleased to see him come and claim crosses, maybe he needed to get angry?

Maybe the criticism of him gave him a kick up the backside. But it can also destroy a players confidence. It can make him be fearful of making the tiniest error for fear of being slated.
Albion fans seem to have at least one first team player they love to hate.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: James Morrison
« on: Yesterday at 01:56:40 PM »
Totally agree about the quality and length of his service. Despite this though I firmly believe he was released at the right time. Measure the number of appearances in last 2 years against money paid to him and the reason is clear.

Yes, no problem with releasing him and i agree he should have been released a couple of seasons ago along with Brunt, even though they are my two favourite recent players. But as we have seen, players read social media and think fans are having a pop at them or are being ungrateful for their service. Been a good player, thanks but now do one is how it comes over.
The club is to blame for giving out contracts, Mozza and Brunty have always been loyal and renewed them, a case of damned if you do damned if you don't.
People keep telling me that WBA is a business and is run like one.
Why then do we keep resigning players who's best days are gone, or signing players who are past it and we aren't going to get any money off when it comes to selling. That isn't good business at all.
When i worked in engineering you didn't keep repairing old machines and buying obsolete ones.
Well actually my firm did, which is why i ended up on the council.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Sam Johnstone
« on: Yesterday at 12:13:01 PM »
I don't think Johnstone should be responding to fans on social media to be honest but I guess its hard when some have the agendas they do. Can see why they don't interact with fans much these days, not worth the hassle.

I totally agree with this. In the old days the tough managers like Shankly and Clough would never allow it and the players would be disciplined heavily. I don't think Megson would have put up with it.
But the world has changed and now we even have the  President of America tweeting about what he's going to do.
The internet is a wonderful thing but can also be dangerous when you get people without a brain going on it.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: James Morrison
« on: Yesterday at 12:08:42 PM »
Great servant and another all time club man imo. Another who became one of us. Yet also another many of our bus to catch so called supporters couldn't wait to be rid of.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Sam Johnstone
« on: August 22, 2019, 12:36:34 PM »
He isn't the best keeper we have had but he's not the worst. It was always gong to be hard following Foster.
Some people on FB couldn't wait to blame him for the goal last night, but i don't think there was much he could have done about it.
All keepers make mistakes, look at England keeper Butland's last night at Preston, if that had been Johnstone he would have been flayed alive.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Anyone Else Slightly Concerned??
« on: August 22, 2019, 12:32:32 PM »
I don't think Austin had any pre season games did he? If so he isn't up to pace yet.

It wasn’t quite as black and white as you paint it.

Allen quit Albion, for more money, to Manage the Saudi Arabia national team. And he bought in players like Steve Mackenzie, Andy King, Romeo Zondervan who hardly covered themselves in glory during their time with the Albion.

Ron Atkinson got the best out of the players he inherited more so than the managers that bought them in.

No, Allen was never given a contract the first time around. We played Forest off the park at the City ground and Clough said it was a disgrace that a manager of Allens pedigree was working without a contract. This was put in the media and it wasn't long before the Arabs came calling.
Allen said he would sooner stay but without a contract he had to let his head overule his heart.
Allen was outspoken, and many of our board disliked him, the same thing happened to Allen as it did with Giles, both wanted more say in how the club was run, and that will never happen here as Megson found out as well.
Allen had to argue with the board for £5,000 to buy Regis.

The Wolves team that Bill McGarry had success with in the early 70's was largely built by Allen, the same as the Albion one that Big Ron professed to have built.
Allen would have played just the same sort of attacking football, it was in his DNA, more so really as Atkinson was a Dingle.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Anyone Else Slightly Concerned??
« on: August 22, 2019, 11:12:33 AM »
A new manager, basically a new team and new playing position.
On the plus side we are unbeaten in the league and in a play off position.
When Giles took over in the summer of 1975 we were bottom of the old second division at the end of September and put out of the League cup at home by Brighton who were a third division side.
That team got promoted but only scored about 51 goals.
We need to tighten our defence and with the creative players we have i am sure the goals will come.
I did say at the start of the season that it might take Bilic two seasons and we should have patience until we gel.

Yes....Giles established a lot of that team, and let Robson off the leash at 17 (unlikely to happen nowadays). Fantastic days. Anyway...the green and yellow stripes are pretty much recognised as ours I'd have thought...but I think it should only be a 'change' kit in the event of a clash.

Yep, that's all i am saying, i have no problem with whatever our second strip is, but i would always hope to see us in our proper club strip unless circumstances dictate otherwise.

The only decent player Atkinson bought was Batson, he inherited a very very good side that Giles, Allen and to some extent Howe had built.
The other signings he made Deehan, Miils, (he broke the British transfer record for him) Barnes, and Owen weren't as good as the players he let go.
Under his watch we lost Cantello, Cunningham, and he took Robson and Moses to United with him and also wanted Regis and Statham.
The bloke was all himself like Peace was, i hate him with a passion.
Ronnie Allen should have been given a contract in his first term here, he could spot a player, and he wouldn't have left here except in a box.

General Football & Sports / Re: VAR
« on: August 20, 2019, 01:58:33 PM »
It's not VAR that's the problem, it's the officials who interpret it. A camera will only show what happens it doesn't decide what decision is then made.
If there had been VAR in our game against Rotherham in 2002 then we would have been promoted before the Palace game. It's frightening to think that "goal"  that was seen by everyone in the ground bar the referee could have cost us not only promotion but the last 17 years history.
Firmly for VAR me.

They changed their socks to all white, that is all that was required.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Gareth Barry
« on: August 20, 2019, 01:48:44 PM »
The experience of Barry especially in this division cannot be understated, i am sure it will be important at some stage.
Also he will be a big influence on players training/playing alongside him.
I wonder if he is being targeted for a coaching career here?

I watched the Wolves game last night and Man Utd came out in home colours. Imagine all the poor sods who bought the away shirt.

Those of us who were around in the late 70’s under Big Ron understand- quite simply it was breath taking football and the green and yellow epitomised the brand of football we played. The best time as an Albion fan.

The 60's were the best time to be an Albion fan, a team that won trophies and was always in the mix.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Kyle Bartley
« on: August 19, 2019, 11:28:35 AM »
I am sure Ajayi said he prefers playing DM, but it is a long hard season so we will accomodate him in both these positions no doubt. I think it's great that we now have options for every position so competition will be fierce.
Shame we couldn't have brought in one more striker.
As for Bartley i think if our fans get off his back he will be a great asset.  Last season we were playing 3 at the back and trying to football out of defence, you have to have really good players to do that, and even then you sometimes get caught out.

My Grandad was a tough West Brom miner, he watched the likes of W.G., Glidden, Sanderson etc. I just smiled when i thought of him at Old Trafford watching the home team come out and then a team in yellow and green. He would have looked around the ground and at the programme to make sure he was at the right game. I could only imagine his reaction if we came out in a lilac strip. :)
Grandad died in 1975 in close season, just about the time the yellow and green made an appearance.
Some things are meant to be.

Is this a good time and place to admit I've just bought myself one of the purple tops?  ;D

LOL Frank. I'm not against anyone buying club merchandise but  we are traditionally blue and white, and as said, by Alex, other strips dilute our identity. Nothing against the yellow and green when colours clash, but i like to see clubs play in their proper colours, that includes visiting ones to the Hawthorns. Imagine Liverpool turning up in yellow or Man United coming out in all green?

I can't wait to see who we are playing for the purple strip to make an appearance. Worlds gone mad.

At the start of the cup run in 1968 we had a 3rd round replay against Colchester, and because Colchester didn't have an away strip we played in all red. We won 4-0. All red was our traditional strip and i think a blue and white scarf with a band of red would be class.
Hey there were 38,000 at the Hawthorns for that 3rd round replay, i was one of them. How times have changed.

Our colours are navy blue and white stripes, no other club plays in those colours.
What is this obsession with yellow and green?
I was following  home andaway when we adopted the yellow and green,(and i fort it looked vewwy pwetty), but we are West Bromwich Albion, not Norwich City.
It's got to the point now that our fans are more interested at the start of the season if we will play in yellow and green, rather than who we will sign.

For god's sake, pull yourselves together you lot.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Slaven Bilic Albion’s New Head Coach
« on: August 09, 2019, 05:43:17 PM »
He won't blood them all at once that would be foolish. The team have to get to know each other and gel. The cup game i reckon we will see  a few changes.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Best XI
« on: August 09, 2019, 09:21:41 AM »
I think Bilic will pick a side to suit who we are playing. But more often than not i think it will be Zohore and Austin up front together.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Dwight Gayle (at Newcastle)
« on: August 08, 2019, 11:39:09 PM »
Dwight was great for us last season, but he was never our player and not an Albion fan. You can't blame a bloke for wanting to make the most of the years he has left if it be in the top flight.
Let's thank Dwight for his input last year, he seems a nice guy, but let's move on and support the team we have now.

West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Slaven Bilic Albion’s New Head Coach
« on: August 08, 2019, 11:05:22 PM »
After years of tedium and boredom i feel like an Albion fan again. We have the most ambitious, passionate, charismatic and extrovert manager since Ron Atkinson.
We had lost our identity. Wolves of all clubs had taken our great entertainers title from us.
Lets get it back big time.
Genuinely thrilled and excited.


West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Charlie Austin
« on: August 08, 2019, 02:05:10 PM »
We need someone to stick the ball in the net, that's what he does. I don't care what else he does or what he thinks.

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