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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Guochuan Lai
« on: May 09, 2019, 06:53:01 PM »
What bothers me is the damage Lai May do if all that he is now interested in is recovering his £200m outlay and doesn’t care how he does it. The sooner the ghastly little bloke clears off the better. The awful man shows no respect towards the club or fans, so why should we show him one iota of respect?

LAI OUT
You should be prudent about making (publicly available) comments about our owner, given the importance of 'face', within the Chinese community. You claim he shows no respect. How about him choosing some crass colour scheme for the strip, or changing the name? Then your indignation would be more understandable.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Gareth Barry
« on: May 09, 2019, 06:16:53 PM »

We offered him a conditional 2nd year, he decided he wasn't up to it and took a straight 2 year deal at Blues. No hard feelings.
I have never seen any indication that KP thought he 'wasn't up to it', and indeed his continued career bears out that WBA made a mistake in not offering a two year deal.
IF we don't get promoted I think that GB could perform a useful role at the base of the midfield next season.
However, the Greed League is another matter.......

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: All-time top flight table
« on: May 01, 2019, 02:31:14 PM »
And our biggest crowd that season was 45,354 (would have been far more but for capacity) for a freezing midweek cup match against Arsenal. Always been a fickle bunch to be fair  ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJlW62epb7c

'Once and future kings of the cup'. Oh dear...
As you point out, a FA cup game (when the cup was still held in high regard) could still draw in the crowds.
That season had an average home gate of 25,000, and a lowest gate of 16,483, and this was higher than most of the next 20 years.

For all of the fantastic history that the club has garnered, huge crowds are not part of the picture.
Sadly, Atomic's perception of our fan base is not born out by facts. I really wish it was true.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: All-time top flight table
« on: May 01, 2019, 10:11:10 AM »

This type of post from our own fans is just as annoying as people like Jeremy Peace. I can't even be bothered to argue with it because I'll just end up getting wound up.

Just one thing I will say is our fan base is low BECAUSE of the lack of ambition. If someone took over the club with real ambition and created a real feel good where fans really believed (like Wolves fans now) the gates would soon shoot up.

That's me done!

You may get wound up, because stuvetti's post is realistic, and your view is not.
Traditionally we have never matched other teams in terms of attendance.
Feel good factor? Surely that applied at the start of the 68/69 season as we were proud FA Cup holders.
First game of the season - WBAFC v Sheffield Wednesday.  Gate....25,031


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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Play offs
« on: April 30, 2019, 11:25:17 AM »
Or what about the fan who paid to be a member and attended 15-16 home games and away games and now cannot get a ticket due to unregistered people now attending
Surely anybody who has shown this level of support would be far better off buying a ST. If they had spent £300 on random tickets a ST must a real alternative. A close friend who lives in Majorca, and who gets back for 10-12 games a season, still has a ST to avoid this scenario developing.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Rekeem Harper
« on: April 27, 2019, 06:58:19 PM »
Criminal that we haven't sorted a contract for him by February. Him going on a free will highlight how badly ran the club is.

Raw talent needs more game time at this level but could be a feature for years to come is going to be allowed to leave is just horrific by us
How many more times will I have to read him not signing a contract is the club's fault?
Unless someone can provide specific details of what contract has been offered, what his demands are and what deals his agent might have in the pipeline, I would suggest that people should stop using this fiction as another stick with which to beat the club.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Michael Appleton
« on: April 26, 2019, 02:10:19 PM »
We get rid of Moore because supposedly Jones was pulling the strings, so then we bring in someone with more experience than Shan.
To me it's an old pal's act with Jenkins and another cheap option.
How far off the bottom of the barrel are we know?
Just because you (and others) keep saying this repeatedly does not make it true. Perhaps you can give us real evidence that this was the case.
Bottom of the barrel? Really??
Are we not paying our players a la Bolton?
Have we got the most expensive Championship squad that looks toothless and could have 'done a Wolves'?  (Stoke)
Are we one of several clubs facing possible sanctions over our financial affairs?
I think a sense of proportion is needed....



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Blimey, the amount of negativity here is beyond me. Firstly, the 'lap of appreciation' is from the players to the fans, not the other way around. Second of all this will be the home crowds last chance to give the players a bit an extra boost and encouragement ahead of the play-offs.

If things don't work out after the semi or final, vent your disappointment then, but the team are going to need all the support they can get just as the other 3 teams and their fans will give too.

I'm trying to stay optimistic but seems so many fans are resigned that our season is over already...what hope do we have in the play-offs?
How right you are.
There seems to be a perverse, longstanding competition to be the most downbeat and pessimistic poster on here.


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and we hand over hard earned cash for that privilege.
Lets not kid ourselves here, just go to the away games and see how much the players appreciate you.
Its the same few that actually approach the fans in most games. The others couldn't give a toss.
Most of them will be out there for 'the lap' because they are told to do it.
Perhaps some of the players at away games don't fancy being pelted with coins of the realm or abused by petulant p*ssed up fans screaming, "you're not fit to wear the shirt!" and other charming epithets.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Play offs
« on: April 16, 2019, 10:34:01 PM »
Depends who wins out on the choice, Sky or the Police. Sky will view us against Villa to be the bigger of the games and 5:15 is when the bigger TV audience is to be had.
Glad to see someone who is confident enough for us to make the PO's.  :D
Are you on the right board? I thought we had to see the worst scenario possible for all things connected with WBAFC and post accordingly. ;)

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Shan appointed until end of season
« on: April 16, 2019, 06:35:45 PM »
I think this is the right decision. Regardless of whether or not we should've sacked Darren Moore, that decision has come and gone. The fact is it would be silly to appoint a new manager with four (league) games to go not knowing what division we will be in next season, therefore not knowing what our requirements will be.

Jimmy Shan has shown he isn't completely useless. Yes we had a couple of bad defeats on the road but he reacted to that by making positive and correct changes last Saturday.

Re-evaluate in the summer but for now get behind Jimmy and the lads for the rest of the season.
At last! A post with which I can agree wholeheartedly.
Ranting about the board and individuals serves no useful purpose.
I'll save my breath to scream at the Vile, if we make it to the PO's and meet them...

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Criticism of our players
« on: April 16, 2019, 05:48:48 PM »
This board is a perfect home for the (angry) pessimist.
Why do I say that?
A current example....
Should we be happy with getting into the play-offs, given the travails of the season? Maybe.
However, it would appear that most posters do not think we will prosper, but will indeed be embarrassed by the other contenders.

I too have major reservations about some of our players, but find it very depressing that posters leap into action to denigrate our guys in such a regular and vitriolic fashion.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Shan appointed until end of season
« on: April 16, 2019, 05:21:15 PM »
Why some posters are surprised baffles me.
My bet on JS @2/1 will pay for half of my ST ,as he only has to serve as manager for 10 games.
Just wish I had taken the bet at 17/2 when AS was 1/8 on.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Jay Rodriguez
« on: April 14, 2019, 01:22:47 AM »

Definitely not, but we rarely use him as such.
Is that his fault?
What was wrong with his performance against PNE??

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Letter to Li Piyue
« on: April 12, 2019, 04:42:56 PM »
Not that prime, in supermarket terms. The Morrison branch (on the site that is now The Range) closed after a couple of years. No supermarket chain needs another inner city venue. A distribution hub is more feasible.
However, isn't time to stop the negative drumbeat?
It's a football ground - and should remain so.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Jake Livermore
« on: April 12, 2019, 04:30:48 PM »
Yeah, it's more about the kind of player we were going for than specific targets tbh.
Also relevant to remember who was the manager at the time (with total control of signings).

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Darren Moore sacked
« on: April 11, 2019, 12:06:36 PM »
Actually we dont know that do we.......?
Quite right. But that was what many posters repeatedly claimed. Many posts kept churning out the mantra of the 'best squad' bollox. This was the stick with which that DM was hit.
Are there still posters who would make the same assertion now?

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Darren Moore sacked
« on: April 11, 2019, 10:09:43 AM »
So, Moore was sacked because he failed to get "the best squad in the Championship" (as many posters repeatedly told us) into the automatic positions. Some told us that so called mediocre managers would have WBA six points clear of everybody.
Would that squad be the same one that posters are now lining up to castigate and dismember on the Next Manager thread....?

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Next manager...
« on: April 07, 2019, 09:27:47 AM »
If we look at it the right way you could argue we are actually lucky right now. There is a manager available that knows how to get teams out of the Championship by playing good football. His name is Slovisa Jokanovic. No need to pay compensation or anything like that he is available NOW. We need to go and get him before another club does either before or at the end of the season.

Timing is everything and here lies a massive opportunity to bring in the ideal candidate and let him prepare for the summer transfer window.

Bring him in and give him two seasons to change the DNA of the club and get us back to the Premier League. IF we somehow manage to go up anyway let him carry on building because we won't stay up, let us come down again to go up stronger.

Perfect man available, perfect time.

This is an golden opportunity that we are going to throw away isn't it?
Can you remind me how the club he got promoted got on this season whilst he was still at the helm?
How much was spent on that team after he got promotion?
Would you say that the club he got promoted shows any lasting signs of a change of DNA?

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Next manager...
« on: April 05, 2019, 10:58:00 PM »
I don’t trust bookies further than I can throw them, particularly when they offer so called ‘can’t lose’ bets. I have been caught too often! These devious bookies are masters at digging out information from ‘sources’ at clubs. Years ago I would be tempted by such generous odds but I have become wiser as I get older.
Apart from (in my opinion) farcical 5/6 odds on for the fat bloke from Dudley, all the candidates are quoted at far longer odds than Shan.
It does not appear that the bookies are being devious, but are as much in the dark as we are.
I guess that most Albion fans are equally able to judge the club hierarchy's mentality as the bookies.

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Next manager...
« on: April 05, 2019, 06:52:07 PM »
"Caretaker and interim managers completing at least 10 competitive games will be deemed the permanent manager".
This proviso is still current on Skybet and they are currently offering odds  of 5/4 with regard to James Shan.

I never ever bet on Albion games, but given the unfolding scenario is there a better bet around?
Seven games to a potential payday....

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Under 23's/ Academy Thread
« on: April 02, 2019, 12:33:19 PM »
Perhaps the posters who repeatedly call the hierarchy of the club a joke and a shambles should bear in mind that this aspect of WBAFC is far from deficient. The club could have scrapped the project at any time, and I am surprised and gratified that it survived the Pulis era.
Congratulations to the young guys and the dedicated coaches!

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Next manager...
« on: March 21, 2019, 08:06:03 AM »
You remind me of a bloke from way way back.
His name was Nero, I believe he was a bit of a violin player.

Your historical knowledge is as poor as your knowledge of what is happening within WBAFC. :D

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Next manager...
« on: March 21, 2019, 12:08:02 AM »

Not often I agree with 82, but if you don't think the club has made a balls up of this sacking/appointment I'm not sure what they would need to do wrong to incur your ire... It's an absolutely abysmal performance in what is a straightforward market especially when your prime target is out of work.
Perhaps your prime target was not the club's prime target. :D

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West Bromwich Albion FC / Re: Next manager...
« on: March 20, 2019, 11:56:27 PM »
Totally unwarranted is your aggression to an alternative view you don’t like. Why on earth would the club not have spoken to his agent and gauged his terms and ideas before even making the decision to sack Moore, how did Leicester managed to appoint Rogers in 24hrs? It would only have taken a few phone calls to work out if he was interested and his terms. He hasn’t spoken publicly and doesn’t have a job. Dice it up which every way you want, sacking the manager and his assistant and then having no idea what to do isn’t good enough.
You don't know why DM was fired.
You don't know SJ was even a target for the job. You don't know who the club may have spoken to or been knocked back by. Just keep slagging the club off without any facts.....

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