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Title: Next Manager
Post by: JtheMull on April 09, 2012, 07:46:03 AM
Peace has given the green light for the FA to approach Roy Hodgson to fill the empty seat of the England Job. What happens if (or rather when) Hodgson goes? Who comes in? ??? ??? ??? Be realistic!
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Floydy on April 09, 2012, 08:34:56 AM
I think 2 of the most likely (and most worrying) have been missed off the list in Appleton and McInnes. Furthermore I think half of that list is completely unrealistic.

In fact I think it is more likely to be a manager from the Championship, lower leagues or Scotland.

The next managerial appointment could make or break our club. For me we have to look for Premier league experience, but I feel it will be another Mowbray/RDM calibre appointment.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: JtheMull on April 09, 2012, 09:40:27 AM
Floydy- I agree that McInnes is a worrying possibility but Appleton is doing brilliant managing Portsmouth. He wouldn't come back to MANAGE the Albion. He's a Championship manager at best. I also agree the likes of Rafa Benitez and Martin O'Neill are unrealistic but who else is 'unrealistic'. Owen Coyle and Mark Hughes are likely to be jobless in the next few months-they're not Championship managers. Alan Curbishley is probably our best chance though.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Lloydy on April 09, 2012, 09:42:37 AM
Chris Hughton is the standout candidate, he's done a fantastic job at Birmingham and at the Toon.

If he's not available I'd like us to give Solskjaer a chance, or possibly go continental and go for someone like Laudrup who is already used to working in a setup like ours.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: JtheMull on April 09, 2012, 09:50:53 AM
Lloydy- I agree but we have more chance with Curbishley. He's jobless and (like Chris Hughton and Solskjaer) his style of play suits us. I have to admit Laudrup is very experienced and would probably go for West Brom.  :-\
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Lloydy on April 09, 2012, 09:54:44 AM
@Lloydy- I agree but we have more chance with Curbishley. He's jobless and (like Chris Hughton and Solskjaer) his style of play suits us. I have to admit Laudrup is very experienced and would probably go for West Brom.  :-\

I wouldn't like Curbishley, rejected us before because we were apparently "below" him. Can't stand the arrogant tool. Let him go to W*lves in the Championship.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: JtheMull on April 09, 2012, 09:58:55 AM
Lloydy- When did he say that? Also when did he reject us?
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: baggies37 on April 09, 2012, 10:04:34 AM
It looks like the FA are going to offer Harry Redknapp AND Roy Hodgson the England Job within the next few weeks. What happens if (or when) Hodgson goes? Who comes in? ??? ??? ??? Be realistic!

less i just got up late this morning where on earth does it say that?

some one got a link?
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: JtheMull on April 09, 2012, 10:07:23 AM
baggies37-It said it in the daily mail a few days ago.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: WBAinDEVON on April 09, 2012, 10:16:51 AM
I didn't vote Martinez but i wouldn't be disappointed if we got him.I think he would do better at a bigger club than Wigan. I know its looking likely he will take Wigan down but they were only going to have a short life in the premier league anyway and he started the football philosophy at Swansea
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: koren on April 09, 2012, 10:24:15 AM
Chris Hughton or Mark Hughes for me.Chris has enough ability to manage a premier league team and I'm confident that he will make us to be a established mid-table team.For Mark Hughes,although  some people don't like him,I rated him highly.His results in man city may prove that he isn't a suitable manager for a top team,but his record in blackburn have proved that he is a class manager for managing mid-table team.Although blackburn didn't have huge budget(similar with us),he still could bring blackburn to europe.Therefore,one of them join us will  satisfy me.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: ian on April 09, 2012, 11:06:59 AM
Paul Lambert would be worth a look as would nigel clough
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Standaman on April 09, 2012, 11:32:45 AM
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: TAFKATMNo1Fan on April 09, 2012, 11:36:16 AM
The Chelsea manager is doing quite well ;-)
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: JtheMull on April 09, 2012, 11:39:25 AM
TAFKATMNo1Fan- Yes but he's already gone through the West Brom experience.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: KnaveofAlbion on April 09, 2012, 01:11:07 PM
Mull, your tagline just made me spill my tea. Very good mate.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: tuamigos on April 09, 2012, 01:43:18 PM
Curbishley is so far up himself you'd never get him back down far enough to attend the interview, plus he'd want a kings ransome in transfer budgets.
One missing from the list that I would plum for would be Nigel Adkins, currently at Southampton
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Standaman on April 09, 2012, 01:55:58 PM
Right now Baggie Bird has more votes than Allardyce, Bruce, O'Neil and Erricksson combined.  :D Might be a better option than at least 3 of those.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Baggie Artist on April 09, 2012, 02:16:20 PM
Poyet and Hughton for their good football.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Wbahunty on April 09, 2012, 02:47:50 PM
It has to be a forward step from Hodgson and there is only one manager on that list who IMO would be a forward step and thats Benitez.

Allardyce, Bruce, O'Neil come close and maybe Erricksson but they dont topple Hodgson!

As long as it someone who is not in the Championship!
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: GrGr on April 09, 2012, 02:57:10 PM
It has to be a forward step from Hodgson and there is only one manager on that list who IMO would be a forward step and thats Benitez.

Allardyce, Bruce, O'Neil come close and maybe Erricksson but they dont topple Hodgson!

As long as it someone who is not in the Championship!

Huh? Eriksson's CV makes Roy's look like a joke tbh.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Londonbaggymike on April 09, 2012, 03:01:45 PM
I'm going to stick my neck out and say...


 ... There is absolutely no chance of the FA employing both Harry and Roy. I can't believe that anyone trusts anything written in the daily mail especially something this ridiculous.

Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Dan on April 09, 2012, 03:03:49 PM
Eriksson doesn't have the heart to be a manager anymore. Ever since leaving England he's just bounced around jobs pretty half heartedly (although he did ok at Man City) he also spends loads of money everywhere he goes.

Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: GrGr on April 09, 2012, 03:06:35 PM
Eriksson doesn't have the heart to be a manager anymore. Ever since leaving England he's just bounced around jobs pretty half heartedly (although he did ok at Man City) he also spends loads of money everywhere he goes.

Agreed. By the looks of it he has lost his belly for football, but not for fine wines and ladies.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on April 09, 2012, 03:06:57 PM
What if you don't like any of the choices listed?

I think there's some names on there which are totally out of our reach; Benitez, Hughes, O'Neill - Benitez apparently turned down the Villa job because he wasn't happy with the war chest available so there's little chance of him coming here.

If Roy does decide to go I don't know which route I would prefer, the younger manager route like Michael Appleton or the more experienced type of guy. It's a decision I'm glad I don't have to make.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: reiss on April 09, 2012, 03:08:33 PM
if blues dont come up. and roy goes. i would like to see chris hughton come here
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: up_the_baggies on April 09, 2012, 03:23:18 PM
If Roy leaves - Chris Hughton is stand out candidate for me..

The fact that we were very close to signing him when RDM left suggests that he would possibly be the stand out candidate from the boards view.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Dexy on April 09, 2012, 03:35:37 PM
If Roy leaves - Chris Hughton is stand out candidate for me..

The fact that we were very close to signing him when RDM left suggests that he would possibly be the stand out candidate from the boards view.
It looks to me as if Roy will stay now but Hughton for me should be manager of the year for what he achieved so far this season .
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Dan on April 09, 2012, 03:38:04 PM
I'm surprised Holloway isn't mentioned in all of this. He got 39 points with a Blackpool team that cost essentially nothing, and had a wage cap of 10k I seem to remember. They were by far and away the poorest monetary team in the league yet still got a points total that would keep them up 9 times out of 10. All whilst playing very exciting football.

If they'd had more money and been able to spend a bit on the defence they would have been fine. Likewise this season they lost their 3 best players and had to rely on free transfers, and are once again over achieving.

That said, if Hodgson is available he's by far the best choice. But Holloway mixes experience with potential. All he needs is a chance to prove himself at a team with more resources.

Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: off_foo_182 on April 09, 2012, 03:44:24 PM
Can somebody please remove Martin O'neil from the options.  ??? ???

Either that or add in Moyes, Ferguson and Wenger
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: wbatillidie on April 09, 2012, 03:45:27 PM
If Hodgson does go from that list i'd want Hughton, although i'd also be interested in Adkins but not sure he'd leave Southampton with them pretty much promoted.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: GrGr on April 09, 2012, 03:53:38 PM
Can somebody please remove Martin O'neil from the options.  ??? ???

Either that or add in Moyes, Ferguson and Wenger

Am I the only one who doesn't rate O'Neill? I think the Villa situation going pearshaped was in no small part down to him, he lacks imagination and ran out of ideas towards the end of his reign (ie he couldn't overpay for British talent anymore).
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: TAFKATMNo1Fan on April 09, 2012, 04:44:10 PM
GrGr you're not the only one, I think O'Neil is over rated too. He signed the likes of Marlon Harewood at Villa say no more.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Standaman on April 09, 2012, 05:28:12 PM
Am I the only one who doesn't rate O'Neill? I think the Villa situation going pearshaped was in no small part down to him, he lacks imagination and ran out of ideas towards the end of his reign (ie he couldn't overpay for British talent anymore).

No I think you will find that you are not the only one. Would not want O'Neil anywhere near the club over paid over rated and yes the Villa are in the mess they're in in no small part to O'Neil being let lose with the owners cheque book. I wouldn't have Bruce & Hughes for similar reasons.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: VANDERLEI on April 09, 2012, 06:55:24 PM
I wouldn't like Curbishley, rejected us before because we were apparently "below" him. Can't stand the arrogant tool. Let him go to W*lves in the Championship.

And rightly so. At the time, our chairman refused to spend the money NEEDED to stay in the Prem.

Curbishley is a fantastic manager who would produce the same sort of results as Hodgson but do it in a more entertaining way.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Signor_Maresca on April 09, 2012, 07:13:53 PM

Curbishley is a fantastic manager who would produce the same sort of results as Hodgson but do it in a more entertaining way.

What makes you say that? He is hardly known for playing stylish football, quite the opposite in fact
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: TAFKATMNo1Fan on April 09, 2012, 07:28:25 PM
Indeed I believe the West Ham fans slaughted him during his time there for his unattractive style of play. Remember Quashie being a scape goat during his time there.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: boing_boing68 on April 09, 2012, 10:48:10 PM
right I have voted for two managers but I don't really want either, I'm going to vote for other and suggest that if Hodgson goes to England (which won't happen anyway) why don't we go after Stuart Pearce?
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: costa blanca baggie on April 09, 2012, 11:14:47 PM
right I have voted for two managers but I don't really want either, I'm going to vote for other and suggest that if Hodgson goes to England (which won't happen anyway) why don't we go after Stuart Pearce?
Two managers??? You either work for the FA...or the Daily Mail. ;D
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: DownInAlbion on April 29, 2012, 07:57:24 PM
I cant see Roy turning down the England job at all its anyones dream especially if your getting to the end of your career...so if he goes who would you want?
For me Paola Di Canio is my ideal choice.
Too early for Appleton/McIness
I would love AVB but are we too small for him?
other options Martinez?
Hughton?
Poyet?
Ole Gunar Solksjaer?

Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on April 29, 2012, 08:00:48 PM
We could also bare in mind that Roy Hodgson is still Albion head coach at this moment in time so threads like this are perhaps premature. I don't really know who I'd fancy to be honest either which is what worries me the most.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Mat15(MH) on April 29, 2012, 08:06:50 PM
That Guardiola fella is available isn't he?
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: wbako on April 29, 2012, 08:07:34 PM
I'd go all out to persuade Paul Lambert we are a more progressive club than Norwich.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: AlbionBest on April 29, 2012, 08:16:47 PM
Very difficult to follow Hodgson as he's proved how much we needed the know-how of a current Prem level manager.
Part of me would like Hughton but he still so untried at the top level and we cannot afford to gamble and fall back to the bad old yo-yo days. Then again, some of the so-called experianced managers that we could get don't fill me with much hope (eg Bruce).

Still, Roy might still be here yet !
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: TAFKATMNo1Fan on April 29, 2012, 08:17:41 PM
Nigel Adkins anyone?
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: AlbionBest on April 29, 2012, 08:19:13 PM
Nigel Adkins anyone?

Can't see him leaving the upwardly mobile Saints.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: KingKoren on April 29, 2012, 08:20:00 PM
Nigel Adkins anyone?

I like him. Done very well at Scunny and Southampton. Can't see him leaving Southampton now they have been promoted.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: OldburyWBA on April 29, 2012, 08:20:10 PM
Solskjaer, Michael Laudrup or maybe Chris Hughton
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: BB74 on April 29, 2012, 08:22:25 PM
Worrying thing for me is we are due a bogey. All our appointments have been so successful under Peace (question marks over Robson). I would like to see Ollie Gunnar in.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: charlebaggie on April 29, 2012, 08:22:53 PM
Jeremy is probably interviewing has we speak . You don't think he will let the grass grow under his feet ,specially with season tickets about to go on sale
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: JtheMull on April 29, 2012, 08:23:40 PM
Have added the option of Ray Wilkins. Do you want me to reset vote?
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Umpshire Baggie on April 29, 2012, 08:23:49 PM
The olny reason Hodson has been contacted in front of Rednap is that Tottenham are still battling to secure a champions league place and we are not so don't worry folks its just procedure I think the lob is Rednaps..
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: wba1993dave on April 29, 2012, 08:24:35 PM
Chris Hugton , Roberto Martinez, not much out there . Please not Bruce  :-X
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: DownInAlbion on April 29, 2012, 08:24:40 PM
PAOLA DI CANIO! 

Would love AVB but would he come?

Solksjaer if cant get either of the above.

its too early for Mcinnes and appleton.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on April 29, 2012, 08:26:44 PM
PAOLA DI CANIO! 

Would love AVB but would he come?

Solksjaer if cant get either of the above.

its too early for Mcinnes and appleton.

I think Paolo Di Canio would be one of the last managers on the list due to his erratic style which is probably why Ian Holloway could potentially be ruled out. If its too early for Appleton and McInnes, isn't it too early for Di Canio? McInnes and Appleton have spent longer in football management than Di Canio.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: HampshireBaggie on April 29, 2012, 08:27:53 PM
Too early for McInnes or Appleton.

Would love Rodgers, Adkins or McDermott but i think those boats have sailed.

Realistically Poyet or Hughton.

Don't know much about Solskjaer or Laudrup. They doing well then?

Is AVB unrealistic?
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: OldburyWBA on April 29, 2012, 08:29:45 PM
Too early for McInnes or Appleton.

Would love Rodgers, Adkins or McDermott but i think those boats have sailed.

Realistically Poyet or Hughton.

Don't know much about Solskjaer or Laudrup. They doing well then?

Is AVB unrealistic?

Solskjaer won the league in his first season albeit in Norway with a side that hadn't won it in years.

Laudrup was doing well at Mallorca until he fell out with the President (many do by the looks of it) and quit.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: JtheMull on April 29, 2012, 08:31:26 PM
AVB is unrealistic as he is being linked with the Barca Job. But again- Do you want me to reset the vote? Yes or No?
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Tipton Baggie on April 29, 2012, 08:31:39 PM
wouldn't want solskaer at all, anyone can win in a poxy league like norway.

Gus Poyet, will be similar to RDM when he first came i think, we'd have him for 2 years then he'll leave.


Hughton for me.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: TAFKATMNo1Fan on April 29, 2012, 08:32:41 PM
Would quite fancy Martinez but as mad as it sounds would he leave Wigan? He turned the Villa job down although he would have had no money to spend. Alan Irvine? :-D
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: OldburyWBA on April 29, 2012, 08:33:34 PM
wouldn't want solskaer at all, anyone can win in a poxy league like norway.

Gus Poyet, will be similar to RDM when he first came i think, we'd have him for 2 years then he'll leave.


Hughton for me.

Well the previous managers at that club couldn't do it mate, everyone has to start somewhere.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: jimmyj on April 29, 2012, 08:35:50 PM
Chris Powell for me. Has done very well at Charlton.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: spencer Baggie on April 29, 2012, 08:36:54 PM
Rodgers or Martinez.

More worryingly will be the players we'll lose along with Roy. Foster, Olson, to name but two.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on April 29, 2012, 08:37:02 PM
I'm available   ;D

I don't even know what type of manager we would need to be honest. Do we go down the young and inexperienced route, or do we look for a more experienced head coach?

Decisions, decisions, decisions.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: KingKoren on April 29, 2012, 08:37:37 PM
wouldn't want solskaer at all, anyone can win in a poxy league like norway.

Gus Poyet, will be similar to RDM when he first came i think, we'd have him for 2 years then he'll leave.


Hughton for me.

Well Roy's best finish in that league was 5th.   ;D
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: JtheMull on April 29, 2012, 08:37:55 PM
I am reseting the vote. Pick any 2 managers off the list.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Dan on April 29, 2012, 08:38:16 PM
Holloway - plays good football, proven on a budget, somewhat proven in the premier league (they went down but 39 points would keep most teams up, and they had virtually no money).

I think he could work well within our system. I think we can safely rule out any fellow premier league clubs managers.

Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: baggiebof on April 29, 2012, 08:40:18 PM
I've had a feeling for quite a while that Curbishley would be our next manager. The club will spin it as an experienced Premier League coach coming in to build upon the work of another experienced coach.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: johnnyg on April 29, 2012, 08:41:08 PM
Tony Mowbray for me. We would have easily stayed up if he had a Mulumbu in his midfield. I think this squad is ready made for him Plenty of defensive midfield cover, which would allow him to be more expansive than we have been under Roy. Maybe the parting with Mr Peace wasv't amicable, but if Tevez can return to clinch the title for City, surely anything is possible after that.
Tony Mowbray please, and a return to the good times.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: gerry m on April 29, 2012, 08:43:04 PM
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: JtheMull on April 29, 2012, 08:43:20 PM
I've had a feeling for quite a while that Curbishley would be our next manager. The club will spin it as an experienced Premier League coach coming in to build upon the work of another experienced coach.

Same. I've got a bad feeling about him.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: spencer Baggie on April 29, 2012, 08:43:23 PM
I've had a feeling for quite a while that Curbishley would be our next manager. The club will spin it as an experienced Premier League coach coming in to build upon the work of another experienced coach.

Curbishley doesn't like the 'techincal director' at clubs so wouldn't join.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: HampshireBaggie on April 29, 2012, 08:44:08 PM
AVB is unrealistic as he is being linked with the Barca Job. But again- Do you want me to reset the vote? Yes or No?

Is he?! Would be a poor appointment for Barca IMO. Very over-rated top tier manager if you ask me.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: HampshireBaggie on April 29, 2012, 08:44:51 PM
Tony Mowbray for me. We would have easily stayed up if he had a Mulumbu in his midfield. I think this squad is ready made for him Plenty of defensive midfield cover, which would allow him to be more expansive than we have been under Roy. Maybe the parting with Mr Peace wasv't amicable, but if Tevez can return to clinch the title for City, surely anything is possible after that.
Tony Mowbray please, and a return to the good times.

good joke. :-D
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: TAFKATMNo1Fan on April 29, 2012, 08:45:33 PM
The question is who will be our next head coach? It needs to be somone who is comftable working in our existing set up. As stated above can't see Curbs coming he would want to be a manager like the Sam Alardyce's of this world.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: KingKoren on April 29, 2012, 08:45:47 PM
Every year for the past decade Curbishely name is brought up when there is a vacant managers job. Jesus wept, can we move on from Curbishley - he has been out of the game too long. Give it to someone who wants to work.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: wbako on April 29, 2012, 08:45:59 PM
Is he?! Would be a poor appointment for Barca IMO. Very over-rated top tier manager if you ask me.

He did a fantastic job at Porto and was never given a full crack of the whip at Chelski.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: OldburyWBA on April 29, 2012, 08:47:24 PM
AVB is unrealistic as he is being linked with the Barca Job. But again- Do you want me to reset the vote? Yes or No?

Barca have a manager in place for next season. Tito Vilanova Peps' number 2
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Hong Kong Phooey on April 29, 2012, 08:48:16 PM
Would love David Moyes but realistically in order of preference:

Martin Jol, Chris Hughton, Ian Holloway, Mark Hughes
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Trigger on April 29, 2012, 08:48:24 PM
None of them listed, heard pepe guadiola available haha
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: wba1993dave on April 29, 2012, 08:48:34 PM
For all you that think were boring what about Ian Holloway  :P  Done a great job at Blackpool. Would make us fun again. Dammm going to miss Roy if he goes though :'(
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: JtheMull on April 29, 2012, 08:49:37 PM
Is he?! Would be a poor appointment for Barca IMO. Very over-rated top tier manager if you ask me.

I'm not saying he would be a good appointment for Barca- but think about it. West Brom fight it out with Barca for Villas Boas. If I woke up to that headline I would die.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: overseas baggie on April 29, 2012, 08:50:46 PM
Hughton or Martinez.  I'd pay top whack to get Martinez. Hughton would be cheap and if Blues don't get promoted he would surely be keen. If they got up then he I think would be loyal.

Can't see Rodgers leaving Swans for us.  All the other names are unrealistic or unproven. We don't need to take risks on novices.

 
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: wbako on April 29, 2012, 08:50:59 PM
Surprised I'm the only person to mention Lambert. Two successive promotions and now he has firmly embedded Naaaarwich in the top flight. Quality manager.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: CechMate on April 29, 2012, 08:52:17 PM
Guardiola? :P
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: CL3MO on April 29, 2012, 08:53:15 PM
Chris Hughton all day long for me. Get's a team well drilled and plays a similar style of football to what we already do.

I'd go all out.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: TAFKATMNo1Fan on April 29, 2012, 08:54:34 PM
Shame Warnocks recently taken a new job :-D Sir Gary is out of work!
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: westbrom4ever on April 29, 2012, 08:54:56 PM
Martinez or Poyet would be the best choices, reckon we'll go for Allardyce, Bruce or Curbishley though.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: up_the_baggies on April 29, 2012, 08:55:37 PM
Surprised I'm the only person to mention Lambert. Two successive promotions and now he has firmly embedded Naaaarwich in the top flight. Quality manager.

Couldn't see him sidestepping from Norwich if i'm honest.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: wbako on April 29, 2012, 08:57:19 PM
Couldn't see him sidestepping from Norwich if i'm honest.

Me neither. Worth a cheeky enquiry though.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: TAFKATMNo1Fan on April 29, 2012, 08:57:27 PM
I've just had a worrying thought isn't Mr Peace and the heiracy at the baggies big fans of Aidy Boothroyd?
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: baggiejules on April 29, 2012, 09:00:33 PM
Anyone suggested Malky Mackay? Might be a good option if Cardiff don't go up. Plays decent football and apparently quite a progressive coach. Probably wouldn't mind working under Ashworth either.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: JBullyWBA on April 29, 2012, 09:02:18 PM
If Blues stay down it has to be Hughton. If they come up, Gus Poyet.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: wba1993dave on April 29, 2012, 09:03:13 PM
Anyone suggested Malky Mackay? Might be a good option if Cardiff don't go up. Plays decent football and apparently quite a progressive coach. Probably wouldn't mind working under Ashworth either.

Good shout
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: rubyruby on April 29, 2012, 09:03:48 PM
Martinez or Poyet would be the best choices, reckon we'll go for Allardyce, Bruce or Curbishley though.

jeez i bloody hope not!......got to be Martinez or Hughton as the outstanding candidates
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: TAFKATMNo1Fan on April 29, 2012, 09:03:54 PM
Hughton would want his own back room staff like before. Wouldn't want to work with Downing and Kiely.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: AlbionBest on April 29, 2012, 09:04:17 PM
I've just had a worrying thought isn't Mr Peace and the heiracy at the baggies big fans of Aidy Boothroyd?

Behave !!!!
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: wobbs68 on April 29, 2012, 09:04:30 PM
I think the scene is set for Martinez.  Ticks all the boxes for JP.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: weareblueweare white on April 29, 2012, 09:06:34 PM
Please no to Curbishley. He sued West Ham for constructive dismissal after he left them! just because they sold a couple of players to help out financially.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Proud 2 Be A Baggie on April 29, 2012, 09:09:22 PM
I voted for Chris Hughton, he's done a fantastic job at blues with pretty much nothing! I wouldn't want Steve Bruce or big Sam!

I doubt Roy will turn this down unfortunately for us, but I think we are all very great full for what he has done at our club and thank him if he does leave.

Hodgson's Barmy Army!  :)
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on April 29, 2012, 09:09:39 PM
I think the votes for Rafael Benitez, Martin O'Neill, SGE and Mark Hughes are well beyond us. We wouldn't offer even of them the sort of money they would want to improve the squad. I've voted for Chris Hughton and Ian Holloway. It was either Holloway or OGS for my second suggestion.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: BB74 on April 29, 2012, 09:10:54 PM
I've just had a worrying thought isn't Mr Peace and the heiracy at the baggies big fans of Aidy Boothroyd?

That's a myth. Peace and Boothroyd had a big bost up.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: JBullyWBA on April 29, 2012, 09:12:05 PM
He did a fantastic job at Porto and was never given a full crack of the whip at Chelski.

That may be so, but I fear Valencia are a far more attractive prospect that us.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: pennington on April 29, 2012, 09:13:10 PM
We have a number of managers on our on going WATCH list..........be surprised if Derek Mc was not amongst them ...........looked prety dire at BC before he got there
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: OldburyWBA on April 29, 2012, 09:14:18 PM
I think the poll needs to be edited for realistic names only. We all laughed at the dingles and the villa when they were suggesting the likes of Hughes, Eriksson and co. Do we really want the same treatment ?
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: BaggieJames114 on April 29, 2012, 09:15:31 PM
I really do hate looking for a new manager. purely because i normally havent a clue who to suggest. Noone in the last 10 years we have appointed ive actively wanted beforehand. :(
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: the rainbow turn east on April 29, 2012, 09:15:41 PM
Call yourself Albion fans lol ?
The next manager will be Brian Laudrup 100%
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: JtheMull on April 29, 2012, 09:15:56 PM
Roy Hodgson, oh wey oh, Roy Hodgson, oh wey oh!
He'll manage Eng-erland,
The pride of the Midlands!
Roy Hodgson, oh wey oh, Roy Hodgson, oh wey oh!
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: paulosull on April 29, 2012, 09:16:08 PM
got to be brendan rodgers for me always held the albion in high regard i remember when mogga was in charge, the only draw back is the five million compo swansea would want. :-[
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: OldburyWBA on April 29, 2012, 09:16:45 PM
Call yourself Albion fans lol ?
The next manager will be Brian Laudrup 100%

I doubt it 100% he works for TV stations.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: wba1993dave on April 29, 2012, 09:16:56 PM
My shortlist

1)Martinez - Wigan
2)Holloway- Blackpool
3) Hughton - Blues
4)Malkaay- Cardiff
5) Ranieri - Looking for work
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: OldburyWBA on April 29, 2012, 09:17:54 PM
My shortlist

1)Martinez - Wigan
2)Holloway- Blackpool
3) Hughton - Blues
4)Malkaay- Cardiff
5) Ranieri - Looking for work

Another totally unrealistic name
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: btbaggie on April 29, 2012, 09:18:38 PM
Steve Bruce's application will already be in the post   ;)
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: JtheMull on April 29, 2012, 09:18:54 PM
Have added Laudrupt.
Mull signing out-well not out but, nevermind.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: AlbionBest on April 29, 2012, 09:19:14 PM
Steve Bruce's application will already be in the post   ;)

Don't even joke about it !!!!
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: OldburyWBA on April 29, 2012, 09:19:48 PM
Brian Laudrup is a tv commentator and pundit.

MICHAEL Laudrup is an ex manager of Mallorca  ;)
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: westbrom4ever on April 29, 2012, 09:20:28 PM
I think the votes for Rafael Benitez, Martin O'Neill, SGE and Mark Hughes are well beyond us. We wouldn't offer even of them the sort of money they would want to improve the squad. I've voted for Chris Hughton and Ian Holloway. It was either Holloway or OGS for my second suggestion.

What has Hughes done in the game to suggest he's beyond us?
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: the rainbow turn east on April 29, 2012, 09:20:48 PM
I doubt it 100% he works for TV stations.

What difference does that make ?

Roy Hodgson works for Westbromwich Albion but he`s still going for the England job.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: hersham boy on April 29, 2012, 09:21:22 PM
I'm going to stick my neck out and say...


 ... There is absolutely no chance of the FA employing both Harry and Roy. I can't believe that anyone trusts anything written in the daily mail especially something this ridiculous.

Things change in a couple of weeks!!!
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Standaman on April 29, 2012, 09:21:49 PM
Now please don't shoot the messenger but here is the latest odds from Skybet


Roberto Martinez 5                                                            
Steve Bruce 5                                                            
Lee Clark 10                                                            
Rafael Benitez 10                                                            
Sam Allardyce 11                                                            
Alan Curbishley 12                                                            
Dean Kiely 12                                                            
Mick McCarthy 12                                                            
Brendan Rodgers 16                                                            
Gus Poyet 16                                                            
Mark Hughes 16                                                            
Slaven Bilic 16                                                            
Stuart Pearce 16                                                            
Paul Lambert 18                                                            
Alan Shearer 20                                                            
Dougie Freedman 20                                                            
Neil Warnock 20                                                            
Nigel Adkins 20                                                            
Paul Ince 20                                                            
Ray Wilkins 20                                                            
Darren Ferguson 25                                                            
Martin Jol  25                                                            
Paul Di Canio 25                                                            
Sven Goran Eriksson 25                                                            Chris Powell 28                                                            
Claudio Ranieri 33                                                            
Roy Keane 33

I have to say some of the odds are not very generous you could stick 2 noughts on the end of the Warnock odds and you they still would be too short and then there are the plain silly ones Benitez oh dear pity the poor punter who thinks that's a good idea
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: smethwickw on April 29, 2012, 09:23:43 PM
I can't see us paying compo to get someone in. Free agents only. I think Steve Bruce will be in the mix. Worrying times ahead.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: OldburyWBA on April 29, 2012, 09:24:35 PM
What difference does that make ?

Roy Hodgson works for Westbromwich Albion but he`s still going for the England job.

Because Brian Laudrup has not managed a club in his life.

His brother Michael however  ;)
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Standaman on April 29, 2012, 09:25:47 PM
Steve Bruce's application will already be in the post   ;)

Quick someone nail the clubs letter box shut!!
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: WestBromJim on April 29, 2012, 09:26:07 PM
Would like to see the Swansea gaffer down ere, or Hughton.

Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: brummyroader on April 29, 2012, 09:28:51 PM
Slaven Billic croatia manager
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on April 29, 2012, 09:29:19 PM
What has Hughes done in the game to suggest he's beyond us?

I'm sure Hughes will see himself at bigger and better things. Add that to his job at QPR. He has money there to spend in the summer and improve them and no doubt take them to the next level. We can't guarantee any manager a warchest and certainly not the wages you would presume he's on at QPR.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Trigger on April 29, 2012, 09:30:07 PM
Capello anyone?
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on April 29, 2012, 09:32:09 PM
Capello anyone?

Is that a serious suggestion?
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: jjb0rdell0 on April 29, 2012, 09:34:25 PM
Pep Guardiola! ;-)
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Baggy nerd on April 29, 2012, 09:34:44 PM
Gus Poyet is the one for me. Great job at Brighton, he has Premiership experience through playing and has something about him. Good chance he would want to leave Brighton for a mid-table Premiership side.

Chris Hughton would be nice but can't see it happening.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: wba1993dave on April 29, 2012, 09:35:23 PM
If Bolton go down Owen Coyle ?
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: rubyruby on April 29, 2012, 09:36:21 PM
If Bolton go down Owen Coyle ?

Definately not.................vastly overrated
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: TheJacko2000 on April 29, 2012, 09:36:37 PM
Mogga. Get him back in.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on April 29, 2012, 09:37:17 PM
Another thing to potentially bare in mind is that we could be fighting Wolves for potential managers. Gus Poyet and Chris Hughton are already keen favourites amongst their supporters for that job so we could be caught in a possible battle with them. You could also add Aston Villa into this category if they choose to sack McLeish during the summer.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: rubyruby on April 29, 2012, 09:39:16 PM
Mogga. Get him back in.

too complicated they will all have to relearn how to pass accurately sideways and backwards. someone will be suggesting we resign ryan donk next.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: the rainbow turn east on April 29, 2012, 09:40:27 PM
Yep!!!SORRY LOL!!!!!
Its defo Micheal Laudrup!!!!!!!and not Brian!!!!!100%
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: JBullyWBA on April 29, 2012, 09:41:01 PM
Another thing to potentially bare in mind is that we could be fighting Wolves for potential managers. Gus Poyet and Chris Hughton are already keen favourites amongst their supporters for that job so we could be caught in a possible battle with them. You could also add Aston Villa into this category if they choose to sack McLeish during the summer.

Very true, but i think we'd be in pole position over championship Wolves and even Villa with Lerner's money worries. I still think Mcleish will be kept on at Villa next season.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: jonny on April 29, 2012, 09:42:10 PM
Now please don't shoot the messenger but here is the latest odds from Skybet


Roberto Martinez 5                                                            
Steve Bruce 5                                                            
Lee Clark 10                                                            
Rafael Benitez 10                                                            
Sam Allardyce 11                                                            
Alan Curbishley 12                                                            
Dean Kiely 12                                                            
Mick McCarthy 12                                                            
Brendan Rodgers 16                                                            
Gus Poyet 16                                                            
Mark Hughes 16                                                            
Slaven Bilic 16                                                            
Stuart Pearce 16                                                            
Paul Lambert 18                                                            
Alan Shearer 20                                                            
Dougie Freedman 20                                                            
Neil Warnock 20                                                            
Nigel Adkins 20                                                            
Paul Ince 20                                                            
Ray Wilkins 20                                                            
Darren Ferguson 25                                                            
Martin Jol  25                                                            
Paul Di Canio 25                                                            
Sven Goran Eriksson 25                                                            Chris Powell 28                                                            
Claudio Ranieri 33                                                            
Roy Keane 33

I have to say some of the odds are not very generous you could stick 2 noughts on the end of the Warnock odds and you they still would be too short and then there are the plain silly ones Benitez oh dear pity the poor punter who thinks that's a good idea

No Chris Hughton on the list?
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on April 29, 2012, 09:43:16 PM
Very true, but i think we'd be in pole position over championship Wolves and even Villa with Lerner's money worries. I still think Mcleish will be kept on at Villa next season.

I was having a read on the mix. They've been very dignified about this which I weren't expecting. However, one or two are slightly concerned that we are far more the attractive opposition and could probably intice their candidates away from them. My mate who I've just been texting has also said the same. This is the benefit of Premier League football.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: rubyruby on April 29, 2012, 09:44:27 PM
Very true, but i think we'd be in pole position over championship Wolves and even Villa with Lerner's money worries. I still think Mcleish will be kept on at Villa next season.

I will be ASTONISHED if mcleish is kept on by the villa next season............but i will p..s myself laughing
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: TheJacko2000 on April 29, 2012, 09:44:58 PM
too complicated they will all have to relearn how to pass accurately sideways and backwards. someone will be suggesting we resign ryan donk next.

I just be happy if some of them learned to pass to stripes. *cough* McAuley, Olsson, Jones, Thomas, Long...
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: rubyruby on April 29, 2012, 09:49:30 PM
I just be happy if some of them learned to pass to stripes. *cough* McAuley, Olsson, Jones, Thomas, Long...

Ha.........fair comment Jacko fair comment
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: The Black Pearl on April 29, 2012, 09:50:11 PM
More likely than not, Roy will still be our manager next season. KEEP CALM and carry on.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Dexy on April 29, 2012, 09:52:34 PM
More likely than not, Roy will still be our manager next season. KEEP CALM and carry on.
What makes you think that mate?
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: TheJacko2000 on April 29, 2012, 09:52:40 PM
More likely than not, Roy will still be our manager next season. KEEP CALM and carry on.

It's highly unlikely, this isn't some ploy to draw Redknapp out. Hodgson will be named England boss before the Bolton game.

As an aside Collymore is on the wind up on twitter... Steve Bruce and Dave Jones.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: rubyruby on April 29, 2012, 09:55:14 PM
Steve Bruce manager of WBA. It doesnt bear thinking about. 
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Philly88 on April 29, 2012, 09:56:39 PM
More likely than not, Roy will still be our manager next season. KEEP CALM and carry on.

what makes you think that?
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Standaman on April 29, 2012, 09:58:09 PM
No Chris Hughton on the list?

No but seriously would not read anything into it just Sky Bet rushing some prices out to hoover up a few quid from mug punters on a Sunday night I mean Neil Warnock at 20/1 really?
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: OldburyWBA on April 29, 2012, 10:02:10 PM
It's highly unlikely, this isn't some ploy to draw Redknapp out. Hodgson will be named England boss before the Bolton game.

As an aside Collymore is on the wind up on twitter... Steve Bruce and Dave Jones.

The blokes a plank after a reaction, I saw earlier he mentioned Mccarthy and McLeish  :D
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Baggies on April 29, 2012, 10:07:48 PM
Collymore is just trying to wind up Baggies fans who have been tweeting him all weekend. Water of a ducks back  :P.

I hope (know) Ashworth will have a list of names as long aa que at an STO clinic in Wolverhampton. I hope some of them are from the continent in places like Germany and Scandanavia where there are some good managers we could potentially get if we offered enough money. Domestically, Chris Hughton has to be the best option if Blues dont come up (compensation may be an issue). Poyet would be difficult but if we could get him id be happy. Chris Powell has just brought Charlton up as well so could be worth a go.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Wbahunty on April 29, 2012, 10:09:49 PM
Stuart Pearce
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: overseas baggie on April 29, 2012, 10:11:49 PM
The great thing about Roy having come here and done a good job is that it should prevent big name managers that we aren't too small for them. It has raised our profile massively so that we don't have to bottom-fish for cheap managers.

I think he has also shown that its not impossible to work under a Director of Football. It may well increase the number of high calibre applicants for the job.

I'm a huge fan of Martinez and Hughton, but don't be surprised to see Mark Hughes in the frame if QPR go down.

I am convinced that one way or another we will have another top manager here next season.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: WBAinDEVON on April 29, 2012, 10:12:39 PM
Holloway for me
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: graka on April 29, 2012, 10:13:13 PM
the way our club is set up with dan ashworth etc we need a good coach, similar to roy who knows how to make teams hard to beat but with a tad more attacking ideas. so for me a younger coach but with some decent playing pedigree like poyet. i have to admit i love the passion di canio shows though. imagine him and jezza!!!!
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Mossi28 on April 29, 2012, 10:14:27 PM
Collymore is just trying to wind up Baggies fans who have been tweeting him all weekend. Water of a ducks back  :P.

I hope (know) Ashworth will have a list of names as long aa que at an STO clinic in Wolverhampton. I hope some of them are from the continent in places like Germany and Scandanavia where there are some good managers we could potentially get if we offered enough money. Domestically, Chris Hughton has to be the best option if Blues dont come up (compensation may be an issue). Poyet would be difficult but if we could get him id be happy. Chris Powell has just brought Charlton up as well so could be worth a go.
Out of contract at the end of the season.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Baggies on April 29, 2012, 10:18:28 PM
Colin Tattum has askd the question on his twitter account tonight. I think we will dealy appointing anyone until after the play offs. The club would want him, the fans want him, it's a double reason with Foster now as to why we want them to lose in the play offs.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Dexy on April 29, 2012, 10:21:18 PM
Colin Tattum has askd the question on his twitter account tonight. I think we will dealy appointing anyone until after the play offs. The club would want him, the fans want him, it's a double reason with Foster now as to why we want them to lose in the play offs.
Am i right in thinking Foster had a fall out with one of Hughtons coaches just before he left?
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: baggieheart on April 29, 2012, 10:22:42 PM
To be fair I'm happy to go with whoever we pick we have done well of late at getting the right man. Look at our stars such as Dorrans Long Brunt and Morrison. Get the man who gets the best out of them.

Perhaps a foreign coach is the way to go.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Baggy nerd on April 29, 2012, 10:24:50 PM
20 votes already for Martinez is surprising and perhaps based only on his recent results. Don't forget Wigan have got worse since he took over. We might end up like a Mowbray team again - attractive but relegated.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: up_the_baggies on April 29, 2012, 10:25:16 PM
I've said Hughton before so many times, and I'll say it again.

Let's hope Blues don't get promoted, then we may be in for a chance of getting him.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: KingKoren on April 29, 2012, 10:28:00 PM
My picks at the moment:
1.Foreign coach (over to you Dan)
2.Roberto Martinez
3.Chris Hughton
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: smethwickw on April 29, 2012, 10:28:48 PM
20 votes already for Martinez is surprising and perhaps based only on his recent results. Don't forget Wigan have got worse since he took over. We might end up like a Mowbray team again - attractive but relegated.

Why would he come to us anyway? He turned down the Villa job. I couldn't see us paying the compensation either. Hughton or Poyet for me.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: wba1993dave on April 29, 2012, 10:41:09 PM
We tried the young route with RDM it worked in the Championship but when we started to lose in the prem he was clueless. We need someone who has experiance in the Premier League and who is willing to work in the current setup. So i think we can rule Bruce,Curblishley out of the running. Hughton was on the verge last year so i expect us to go for him. I. Like i said my front 3 would be Hughton,Martinez,Holloway. All 3 have premier league experiance you can say Ian Holloway failed in the Premier League but his team went down with 39 points.This summer is going to be massive could be a big overhual  with new staff and players coming in.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Pelsall_Baggie on April 29, 2012, 10:41:59 PM
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: smethwickbaggie23 on April 29, 2012, 10:42:04 PM
maybe a rousing rendition of TLMS could get devout catholic Marcelo Bielsa to consider a move to the Black Country!?  :P

he has a reputation of being a little 'mad', id love it if he were mad enough to swap la liga and the europa league for us! 


okay, il stop dreaming now
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Baggie79 on April 29, 2012, 10:42:08 PM
Karl Robinson for me 100% but McInnes was very close when RDM got the job and I would not be surprised if he was close again as JP loves him.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: AlbionBest on April 29, 2012, 10:45:34 PM
Karl Robinson for me 100% but McInnes was very close when RDM got the job and I would not be surprised if he was close again as JP loves him.

Is that barrel scraping I hear there (on both accounts !).
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: rubyruby on April 29, 2012, 10:45:57 PM
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: WorcsWBA on April 29, 2012, 10:46:34 PM
Does anyone know to what extent bridges were burned between Peace and Hughton when the latter came very close to getting the job once before? For me, Hughton has done amazing things at Blues this season given their off field problems and would be the stand-out candidate for me, but I am concerned about what might have transpired when he was in the frame once before.

However, if Blues get promoted, it would make getting him a lot more awkward regardless though.....
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on April 29, 2012, 10:48:30 PM
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: wba1993dave on April 29, 2012, 10:49:03 PM
Does anyone know to what extent bridges were burned between Peace and Hughton when the latter came very close to getting the job once before? For me, Hughton has done amazing things at Blues this season given their off field problems and would be the stand-out candidate for me, but I am concerned about what might have transpired when he was in the frame once before.

However, if Blues get promoted, it would make getting him a lot more awkward regardless though.....

Roy orignally didnt want the job due to his recent sacking at Liverpool, so we went for Hughton but at the last minute Hodgson changed his mind. Hughton did say he was thankfull to JP for giving him a interview though which was nice of Hughton to be fair.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: KnaveofAlbion on April 29, 2012, 10:49:39 PM
I've been busy today and have just seen the news.......... SH!!!!!T  :-[
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: BAGGIE5 on April 29, 2012, 10:53:59 PM
chris Hughtons the man for me..proved he can do it
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Baggie Artist on April 29, 2012, 10:54:28 PM
chris Hughtons the man for me..proved he can do it

He hasn't proven anything in the Premier League.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: RogerBadoo on April 29, 2012, 10:56:57 PM
I'm struggling with an immediately obvious replacement. I want somebody who will play football and Martinez would be a superb appointment.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: timdon on April 29, 2012, 10:57:01 PM
One man who just may be out of a job in the summer................
Come on down Roberto di Matteo
Not out of the question !!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: AlbionBest on April 29, 2012, 10:59:03 PM
For reference, the Good and Bad over the last forty years in the hot seat:

Manager  Start Date  End Date
Roy Hodgson 14 February 2011 Present
Michael Appleton 6 February 2011 14 February 2011
Roberto Di Matteo 30 June 2009 6 February 2011
Tony Mowbray 18 October 2006 16 June 2009
Craig Shakespeare 17 October 2006 18 October 2006
Nigel Pearson 18 September 2006 16 October 2006
Bryan Robson 9 November 2004 18 September 2006
Frank Burrows 26 October 2004 9 November 2004
Gary Megson 9 March 2000 26 October 2004
Cyrille Regis 7 March 2000 9 March 2000
Allan Evans 7 March 2000 9 March 2000
Brian Little 3 August 1999 6 March 2000
Cyrille Regis 27 July 1999 3 August 1999
John Gorman 27 July 1999 3 August 1999
Denis Smith 1 January 1998 27 July 1999
Ray Harford 6 February 1997 4 December 1997
Alan Buckley 20 October 1994 22 January 1997
Keith Burkinshaw 19 June 1993 17 October 1994
Ossie Ardiles 8 May 1992 19 June 1993
Bobby Gould 25 February 1991 5 May 1992
Brian Talbot 2 November 1988 8 January 1991
Ron Atkinson 3 September 1987 12 October 1988
Ron Saunders 14 February 1986 2 September 1987
Nobby Stiles 29 September 1985 1 February 1986
Johnny Giles 14 February 1984 29 September 1985
Ron Wylie 27 July 1982 13 February 1984
Ronnie Allen 1 July 1981 1 May 1982
Ron Atkinson 12 January 1978 30 June 1981
John Wile 22 December 1977 12 January 1978
Ronnie Allen 21 June 1977 22 December 1977
Johnny Giles 5 July 1975 21 May 1977
Don Howe 8 July 1971 7 April 1975

Who's next ???????
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Baggie79 on April 29, 2012, 10:59:26 PM
Is that barrel scraping I hear there (on both accounts !).

Robinson is just about one of the highest rated managers outside the Prem, I would welcome him as he is at the perfect time in his career.

In my perfect world it would be Bilic but I know that would never happen  :(
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: alexjennings_uk on April 29, 2012, 10:59:45 PM
I'm struggling with an immediately obvious replacement. I want somebody who will play football and Martinez would be a superb appointment. I

Me too, I think Martinez is looking for a bigger club unfortunatley.

Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: AlbionBest on April 29, 2012, 11:02:01 PM
Robinson is just about one of the highest rated managers outside the Prem, I would welcome him as he is at the perfect time in his career.

In my perfect world it would be Bilic but I know that would never happen  :(

I don't think we could gamble on a Div 1 manager at this stage of our development - we cannot afford the learning curve.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: rubyruby on April 29, 2012, 11:05:57 PM
Gianfranco Zola??????????
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Kicking Pigeons on April 29, 2012, 11:07:52 PM
Me too, I think Martinez is looking for a bigger club unfortunatley.
What's so fantastic about Martinez? I've never understood the hype. All he's done is scraped survival with Wigan, a team that should be doing better, several times.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: DaveWBA on April 29, 2012, 11:08:14 PM
Di Matteo for me, knows the club, knows the players and from what we're currently seeing at Chelsea he's certainly worked on the defensive side of his game. I'd have him back here in a flash if he doesn't get the Chelsea job.

Its whether he'd want to come back and work under JP again, didn't they have a falling out over budgets etc or am I imagining things?
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: A5HB on April 29, 2012, 11:10:26 PM
Di Matteo for me, knows the club, knows the players and from what we're currently seeing at Chelsea he's certainly worked on the defensive side of his game. I'd have him back here in a flash if he doesn't get the Chelsea job.

Its whether he'd want to come back and work under JP again, didn't they have a falling out over budgets etc or am I imagining things?

Not saying he would come back but RDM is quoted several times as saying that he and JP still got on very well and speak occasionally.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: DaveWBA on April 29, 2012, 11:13:11 PM
Not saying he would come back but RDM is quoted several times as saying that he and JP still got on very well and speak occasionally.

Fair enough, don't know where I got the falling out stories from then.

I could see him wanting to come back and finish the job he started, still well liked by many of the fans, would have nothing to prove.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: alexjennings_uk on April 29, 2012, 11:19:20 PM
What's so fantastic about Martinez? I've never understood the hype. All he's done is scraped survival with Wigan, a team that should be doing better, several times.

He plays total football, thats what we all want to see. You think Wigan should be doing better?? Wigan are playing well above their expectations.

Skybet have made him joint favourite with Steve Bruce at 5/1
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: JBullyWBA on April 29, 2012, 11:23:27 PM
He plays total football, thats what we all want to see. You think Wigan should be doing better?? Wigan are playing well above their expectations.

Skybet have made him joint favourite with Steve Bruce at 5/1
Skybet also have Neil Warnock at 20/1 just after he signed a new contract at Leeds. I wouldn't trust a word of it.
Di Matteo, Chris Hughton, Gus Poyet or Malky Mackay!
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Moggas barmy army on April 29, 2012, 11:26:18 PM
I would want Benitez but that's realistically not going to happen as someone bigger than us will come calling. If blues go up there goes Hughton. So realistically i think were looking at Bruce, Martinez or a foreign manager
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: timdon on April 29, 2012, 11:33:44 PM
I would want Benitez but that's realistically not going to happen as someone bigger than us will come calling. If blues go up there goes Hughton. So realistically i think were looking at Bruce, Martinez or a foreign manager
Utterly UNrealistic. Bruce no way on earth. Martinez will stay at igan, though I;d be quite happy. Foreign manager - depends who but would be a risk. We cant hang around while they get used to English football.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Pseudo_Intel on April 29, 2012, 11:34:42 PM
Martinez is a fantastic manager; unfortunately I feel he will end up at a larger club than ourselves, perhaps Tottenham.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: reiss on April 29, 2012, 11:34:53 PM
 ole gunner solskjaer
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: rubyruby on April 29, 2012, 11:36:07 PM
Now the Barca job has gone Marcelo Bielsa would be a brilliant appointment. His side play some fantastic football and have gubbed the best we have to offer amongst others.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Moggas barmy army on April 29, 2012, 11:40:37 PM
Utterly UNrealistic. Bruce no way on earth. Martinez will stay at igan, though I;d be quite happy. Foreign manager - depends who but would be a risk. We cant hang around while they get used to English football.

Theres no way we get Benitez but it's the one i would like, the only realistic one we have a shot at is Bruce. I wouldn't want him but Curbeshly's been out donkey's years and isn't leaving London, Martinez would want a bigger club than us next season, the rest on that list are all at stable clubs with much bigger spending power than we have. I could see them going foreign but it would be a huge huge gamble and it would have to be someone with an impressive track record
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Pseudo_Intel on April 29, 2012, 11:43:22 PM
Di Matteo for me, knows the club, knows the players and from what we're currently seeing at Chelsea he's certainly worked on the defensive side of his game. I'd have him back here in a flash if he doesn't get the Chelsea job.

Its whether he'd want to come back and work under JP again, didn't they have a falling out over budgets etc or am I imagining things?

In my opinion Chelsea are still experiencing a honeymoon period. Di Matteo is 'one of the lads' at Chelsea; his input as a manager hasn't been that profound. He has simply given the players and assistant manager JT what they desire after the AVB debacle.

When RDM left, he had lost the dressing room and his interest in WBA had deteriorated quite drastically. A move back to the Albion would be a move backwards for both himself and the club in my opinion.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: jonny on April 29, 2012, 11:48:49 PM
Out of contract at the end of the season.

Surely if that is the case then he must be a strong contender if Blues don't go up?
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: fentbaggie on April 29, 2012, 11:49:14 PM
Hughton for me - did a very good job with Newcastle when we came up with them and he inherited it. At the time, we had a similar squad as toon, no huge stars, just some good up and comings and a few vets and he did a great job - should never have been sacked (although Pards has done a great job too as much as it hurts for me to say that as he's a tool).

Benitez is a decent name but did well at Liverpool with a great side at the time, not sure he'd be as good with a less 'galacticos' side.

SGE - nope, he's been there, seen it, done it and seems to be interested only in padding his pension.

Martinez - not sure to be honest. I suspect he'd have us play nice footy but lose the extra solidity we've gained - Wigan are on a stormer the last few months admittedly, but not sure if thats mainly down to strikers sorting themselves out or injured players returning - a bit RDM for me, no Plan B - or at least C (I know - RDM is god at Chelski at the moment, but it was a problem with us - maybe he's learnt from it - but I think Chelski will keep him, at least as No 2).

Curbs? F**k off! He's an arrogant nob who did well with a rubbish club. Won't go north of Watford gap either by sound of it.

So Hughton for me - unless Peace does the biz and we attract someone we never thought we'd get like Pep G after a month off or Jose lol. (never bet against JP). <<<< that WAS a joke by the way!!!

However, I'd be more happy if Roy is convinced to stay for a while longer, I think he'll make us better for the long term the longer he stays.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: craigwba91 on April 29, 2012, 11:50:31 PM
Now it looks like RH will get the England job who will be next in line?
 Michael Appleton was first name to come to my mind with the situation at Pompey however I don't think he Is ready for us just yet one day though.

Derek Mcinness same as above with Appleton not sure if he Is ready

For me one of the top choices would be CH he did well on his interview last time and is the type to fill in the roll just nicely, also would be a good way to get Ben foster signed up?! 
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: DaveWBA on April 29, 2012, 11:51:51 PM
In my opinion Chelsea are still experiencing a honeymoon period. Di Matteo is 'one of the lads' at Chelsea; his input as a manager hasn't been that profound. He has simply given the players and assistant manager JT what they desire after the AVB debacle.

When RDM left, he had lost the dressing room and his interest in WBA had deteriorated quite drastically. A move back to the Albion would be a move backwards for both himself and the club in my opinion.

Thats cause we were rubbish, he seems to have come on leaps and bounds as a coach since then. What he is doing at Chelsea cannot just be attributed to a 'honeymoon period' the turn around since he arrived has been too drastic for that.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Kicking Pigeons on April 29, 2012, 11:53:08 PM
He plays total football, thats what we all want to see. You think Wigan should be doing better?? Wigan are playing well above their expectations.

Skybet have made him joint favourite with Steve Bruce at 5/1
What's his stance on underbelly signings and players with soft feet?
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: jonny on April 29, 2012, 11:56:57 PM
Joint team of McInnes and Appleton?
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: KingKoren on April 30, 2012, 12:07:31 AM
Ivan Jovanovic - looking at foreign options.
Manager of APOEL - did brilliantly in the champions League this season. His track record seems decent as well.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: beechyboy90 on April 30, 2012, 12:08:58 AM
aslong as its not steve bruce, mick mcarthy, alex mcleish.......

poyet for me if we are going to plunge for a manager from lower down. think di canio would to much of a risk. id like to have martinez think hes a great manager hes kept probably the worst side in the league up a few times now! imagine what he could do with better players.

guardiolas free haha....
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: jonny on April 30, 2012, 12:14:16 AM
Steve Kean anyone?
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: danwatson on April 30, 2012, 12:24:34 AM
I know they have just been promoted but Nigel Adkins would be superb. Intelligent bloke and has worked wonders at Saints. However, doubtful that he would want to leave them. Ian Holloway or Di Canio would definitely bring some form of entertainment!
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: beechyboy90 on April 30, 2012, 12:30:24 AM
I know they have just been promoted but Nigel Adkins would be superb. Intelligent bloke and has worked wonders at Saints. However, doubtful that he would want to leave them. Ian Holloway or Di Canio would definitely bring some form of entertainment!

great post i agree with all the sentiments
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Moggas barmy army on April 30, 2012, 12:35:11 AM
I know they have just been promoted but Nigel Adkins would be superb. Intelligent bloke and has worked wonders at Saints. However, doubtful that he would want to leave them. Ian Holloway or Di Canio would definitely bring some form of entertainment!

I'd prefer McDermott from Reading but lets be realistic neither are going to join as both have just been promoted
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: JtheMull on April 30, 2012, 06:42:54 AM
Now there's even more reason to support anyone but B'ham in the play-offs. If B'ham don't go up then we have more chance of keeping Foster, and more chance of getting Hughton.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Sessegod on April 30, 2012, 07:17:58 AM
Please please not Bruce.

I think we may go for Poyet.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: tuamigos on April 30, 2012, 07:25:03 AM
Hughton or Solskjaer for me
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: WBASPE77 on April 30, 2012, 07:29:23 AM
Tough one, if Blues dont go up then I would love Chris Hughton here.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Sessegod on April 30, 2012, 08:27:37 AM
Has JP and Ashworth been expecting this and have somebody lined up already to take the helm?
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: WBAinDEVON on April 30, 2012, 08:38:46 AM
Martinez the current bookie favourite
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: AlbionBest on April 30, 2012, 08:41:07 AM
Martinez the current bookie favourite

Any links to bookies ?
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: WBAinDEVON on April 30, 2012, 08:45:38 AM
Any links to bookies ?


To be fair it was what i heard on TalkSport this morning, a rep of BetFred i think it was
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: BoingFlyer on April 30, 2012, 08:48:16 AM

I would think we already have a short list of names, we have been expecting this approach for a few months now. it will be intresting to see who is on the list in the next few days.

I can't see us resolving any player contracts until the manager is signed either.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: The Joust on April 30, 2012, 08:50:43 AM
In all honesty I fear for us...
We fell lucky with Hodgson imo. He's managed all over the world, managed international teams, won league titles, speaks 7 languages, knows everyone worth knowing in the game and the most important thing is, he can manage clubs with no money and average players and make those teams perform above their level like us, Fulham etc. Top bloke and manager. We'd need a manager like bloody Mourinho, Fergie, Guardiolla to replace Hodgson to continue the way we are as they are people that could make our players perform anywhere near the level as Hodgson can. I fear with any of the other managers being mentioned, we will slide back into the 'yo-yo' team we were once known as... Obviously I don't expect us to go out and appoint the out of work Pep Guardiolla, however the pool of managers being batted about falls quite a bit away from Roy Hodgson's accolades and experience. imo.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: WBAinDEVON on April 30, 2012, 09:05:19 AM
What about Glenn Hoddle?
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: ben_westbrom on April 30, 2012, 09:08:30 AM
Another thing to think about is that Wolves and potentially Villa could be looking for a new manager over the summer.  I know Wolves are in the Championship now, so may not be a worry but whether we like it or not Villa will almost certainly be a more attractive proposition for another manager.  So let's hope we move fast.

I'd like to see Hughton brought in, done well wherever he's been and highly spoke about can see us having to pay quite a bit of compensation to Blues though which may be a stumbling block.  Lets just hope they don't get promoted!
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: 17GD on April 30, 2012, 09:08:59 AM
What about Glenn Hoddle?

I would actually hate that lol. I just don't rate him.

Optimistically I went for Martinez, but I don't think he'll come as he gets on so well with the Wigan chairman, so why would he jepordize that for a potential head ache job?

Realistically, if Blues don't go up in the play offs, we could land Hughton.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Dorrans17 on April 30, 2012, 09:10:07 AM
Paolo Di Canio <3
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: B_H_Baggie on April 30, 2012, 09:14:45 AM
I honestly haven't got a clue who I would want, no one stands out for me. Have to hope those at the club that make the decision have a much clearer idea.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: brummyroader on April 30, 2012, 09:19:01 AM
Slaven Bilic, Croatia manager

Hadjuk Split

21 November 2001
 
4 May 2002
 
P17 W11 D4 L2
 
Win % 64.70
 


Croatia U21
 
18 August 2004
 
1 August 2006
 
P18 W10 D2 L6
 
Win % 55.55
 

Croatia
 
1 August 2006
 
Present
 
P59 W40 D13 L6
 
Win % 67.80

Stats don't lie, only thing is would he come if given the opportunity?
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Cantello on April 30, 2012, 09:19:09 AM
One thing with Peace/Ashworth; the chances are it will be no-one we've thought of.  Who saw RDM coming?  And Roy?  Not me...
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Tom_WBA_93 on April 30, 2012, 09:19:53 AM
Solskjaer all day long for me.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: The Joust on April 30, 2012, 09:22:26 AM
Solskjaer all day long for me.

Based on what...?
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: WBAinDEVON on April 30, 2012, 09:23:05 AM
Based on what...?


Thats what i thought
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Mister AT on April 30, 2012, 09:27:05 AM
Without doubt the biggest appointment in the clubs history for a long time..

If Roy gets the job, the next manager will really shape our future, the right choice could see us push on and secure ourselves as a mid table force, the wrong decision and were back to square 1.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Tom_WBA_93 on April 30, 2012, 09:28:42 AM
Well, why not? He's won the league in Norway with his team Molde (first league title in history), and seems to be doing quite well as a manager. Given the choices available on the poll, I don't really think we need a washed-up manager, which most the options are.

I'd take Hughton though, but I'd prefer Solskjaer.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: gingernumpty on April 30, 2012, 09:31:14 AM
The premiership is no place for beginners!  It becomes obvious when you go through a tough run.  An experienced and sometimes steady hand makes the difference when this happens and it does to most teams during a season. 

Hughton seems one of the more likely shouts based on last time round and Blues current financial issues.  I wouldn't mind Lambert but he's in a job and would he come anyway?
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: wba1968-Tim on April 30, 2012, 09:32:41 AM
Any links to bookies ?

Here you go.

http://www.oddschecker.com/football/football-specials/west-brom-specials/next-permanent-manager

Personally I think Lambert is the outstanding candidate.
Hughton has done well at Blouse/Newcastle.
Brendon Rogers also fits the criteria IMO
Martin Jol is another who would fit the bill and has affiliation with the club, might cost a bit though.
Then there is the madman from Blackpool who would make an entertaining appointment!!!!!
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: BB74 on April 30, 2012, 09:33:18 AM
Well, why not? He's won the league in Norway with his team Molde (first league title in history), and seems to be doing quite well as a manager. Given the choices available on the poll, I don't really think we need a washed-up manager, which most the options are.

I'd take Hughton though, but I'd prefer Solskjaer.

Molde are in the Champions League this season, surely that would be a stumbling block.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: AidantheBaggies on April 30, 2012, 09:46:15 AM
Malky Mackay for me. Great young manager who has the desire to succeed.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Floydy on April 30, 2012, 09:47:36 AM
I really worry that it will be Appleton
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: smethwickw on April 30, 2012, 09:57:05 AM
In all honesty I fear for us...
We fell lucky with Hodgson imo. He's managed all over the world, managed international teams, won league titles, speaks 7 languages, knows everyone worth knowing in the game and the most important thing is, he can manage clubs with no money and average players and make those teams perform above their level like us, Fulham etc. Top bloke and manager. We'd need a manager like bloody Mourinho, Fergie, Guardiolla to replace Hodgson to continue the way we are as they are people that could make our players perform anywhere near the level as Hodgson can. I fear with any of the other managers being mentioned, we will slide back into the 'yo-yo' team we were once known as... Obviously I don't expect us to go out and appoint the out of work Pep Guardiolla, however the pool of managers being batted about falls quite a bit away from Roy Hodgson's accolades and experience. imo.

A perfect fit for England then.  ;D
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: RowleyBaggie2 on April 30, 2012, 10:03:11 AM
The amount of votes for Holloway scare the life out of me.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: WBAinDEVON on April 30, 2012, 10:05:27 AM
Ian Holloways barmey army :D
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: graka on April 30, 2012, 10:08:48 AM
from what was going to be quite a busy summer anyway with decisions to be made on foster,olsen,reid,scharner,andrews,fortune,tchoyi and cox and then replacements signed for any of those we now need a new head coach before that can happen. so hopefully a swift appointment so its more evolution than revolution
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Savvas78 on April 30, 2012, 10:10:27 AM
Out of this list: Laudrup, Brendan Rogers, or Paul Lambert would be my preferred candidates.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: DudleyBaggieFan on April 30, 2012, 10:13:21 AM
Hughton

Push the boat out JP and go get pep!!!

Seriously, Hughton, always rated him.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: DudleyBaggieFan on April 30, 2012, 10:16:57 AM
Sky bet has Martyn jol at 25/1
And ranieri at 33/1

Dean Kiely is at 12/1
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: DudleyBaggieFan on April 30, 2012, 10:17:43 AM
Stuart Pearce anyone?
16/1
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: WBAinDEVON on April 30, 2012, 10:18:32 AM
Might Hughton still be smarting?
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: WBARoberts on April 30, 2012, 10:22:26 AM
Holloway for me.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: billvis on April 30, 2012, 10:23:46 AM
I would be surprised if it isn't any of those in the list, just remember the RDM appointment.

Got a feeling in my bones about Benitez though.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: B_H_Baggie on April 30, 2012, 10:26:01 AM
Holloway for me.

I would hate to have that publicity seeking tosser at our club.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: billvis on April 30, 2012, 10:27:22 AM
I would hate to have that publicity seeking tosser at our club.

Second that, he's a grade A prat!
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: AidantheBaggies on April 30, 2012, 10:27:49 AM
Would Chris Hughton leave Blues and go to there local rivals??
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Savvas78 on April 30, 2012, 10:28:29 AM
Might Hughton still be smarting?

That's a really good point, I never thought about that. That sudden u-turn might mean Hughton's out of the running.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: B_H_Baggie on April 30, 2012, 10:28:33 AM
Got a feeling in my bones about Benitez though.

Why would he lower himself to a club like ours? I laughed at the ridiculousness of this suggestion from a number of Dingles a couple of months back.

I don't mean to disrespect our own club but Benitez will see himself as too good for us given his CV.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: JBullyWBA on April 30, 2012, 10:29:29 AM
I would be surprised if it isn't any of those in the list, just remember the RDM appointment.

Got a feeling in my bones about Benitez though.

Is that feeling accompanied by a total lack of common sense? If Benitez denied Villa, i doubt very seriously that he'd come here. I reckon he was after the Spurs job if Harry got the England job. Sadly, i simply cannot see him at Albion.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: WBARoberts on April 30, 2012, 10:30:31 AM
Brum will end up winning play offs, so in that case no hughton.
Some on the list are out of the question completely, Rogers, Lambert would not come here. Not enough of a step for them.

As long as we don't get an inexperienced newbie I'm fine with any appointment.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: B_H_Baggie on April 30, 2012, 10:30:46 AM
Might Hughton still be smarting?

He knows how football works, we managed to get someone more qualified than him at the time but a move to us would be seen as a forward step for him given the issues financially at Blues. I wouldn't be surprised to see other clubs in for him in the summer though given the job he's done there.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: BB74 on April 30, 2012, 10:30:50 AM
Why would he lower himself to a club like ours? I laughed at the ridiculousness of this suggestion from a number of Dingles a couple of months back.

I don't mean to disrespect our own club but Benitez will see himself as too good for us given his CV.

Totally agree, he could have the pick of 90% of Premier League and La Liga clubs.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: lewisant on April 30, 2012, 10:32:11 AM
I would be surprised if it isn't any of those in the list, just remember the RDM appointment.

Got a feeling in my bones about Benitez though.

haha i dont think so wasnt he inter manager?! i pray we dont get holloway the hard work of the last two years will be washed away and itll be back to the mowbray days of playing great attractive football and going down.

Is RDM coming back unrealistic?
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: JBullyWBA on April 30, 2012, 10:32:39 AM
Would Chris Hughton leave Blues and go to there local rivals??

Albion-Birmingham isn't that intense a rivalry, I think they only genuine backlash would be the fact that we're robbing all of their players/staff. Which of course, I think is hilarious. Maybe nab Foster and Curtis Davies while we're there just to rub it in a little more. Our summer pretty much relies entirely upon whether they get promoted or not now. 'MON BLACKPOOL!
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: B_H_Baggie on April 30, 2012, 10:33:56 AM
Brum will end up winning play offs, so in that case no hughton.
Some on the list are out of the question completely, Rogers, Lambert would not come here. Not enough of a step for them.

As long as we don't get an inexperienced newbie I'm fine with any appointment.

I'm not trying to disrespect Birmingham at all but even if they win the playoffs we will probably be seen as a better option given their financial problems. As long as there are no hard feelings after last time and we want him I would be very surprised if we didn't get him regardless of what league Blues are in.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Mister AT on April 30, 2012, 10:34:25 AM
I think if we took Hughton, would make the deal for Foster that little bit more difficult as they wouldnt want to lose both to us.

Ranieri isnt a bad shout though...
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: RowleyBaggie2 on April 30, 2012, 10:36:47 AM
Might Hughton still be smarting?

Publically stated that JP dealt with the situation very well and they remain on good terms.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: JBullyWBA on April 30, 2012, 10:38:40 AM
I think if we took Hughton, would make the deal for Foster that little bit more difficult as they wouldnt want to lose both to us.

Would they have much of a choice considering their current financial problems? I think if they stay down there is a chance they might go into administration and end up hurtling down the leagues.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Albion79 on April 30, 2012, 10:44:56 AM
I think the Hughton one is interesting, its probably a bit disrespectful to Blues to assume he would jump to come to us, from what i have seen of him he seems a decent and loyal bloke and Blues gave him a chance which he took and i think he may well show some loyalty.

However if this whole financial thing is as bad as appears with Blues and they dont go up, cant sign players, etc he may also think that he has done all he can.

As much as i would like a Martinez, Rodgers, Lambert, Adkins for their style i also think that although we are appealing to some managers i think those managers may well look at us as a bit of a sideways move. We are probably around where we are going to finish each season so they may look and think can we actually make them that much better, where as the clubs they are at now there reputations are golden and they can afford to probably get relegated and know they would have another year in the job.

Thats not putting us down, i think we are an attractive propostion to many managers, good league position, well run, good academy, no debt, history, facilities, fanbase, etc but i also wonder how many managers who are proven or are on a high at the moment would be prepared to come in under our setup, not knocking our setup, the club is more important than any one person but not sure all managers would fancy the setup.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: richjonawba on April 30, 2012, 10:48:53 AM
great, now england will be even more exciting to watch than they already were   ???
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: smosher34 on April 30, 2012, 10:59:25 AM
ALAN IRVINE and DEREK MCINNES are at the hawthorns this morning ! interviews already .
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: The Joust on April 30, 2012, 10:59:52 AM
ALAN IRVINE and DEREK MCINNES are at the hawthorns this morning ! interviews already .

Where you had that from?
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Standaman on April 30, 2012, 11:00:39 AM
I think the Hughton one is interesting, its probably a bit disrespectful to Blues to assume he would jump to come to us, from what i have seen of him he seems a decent and loyal bloke and Blues gave him a chance which he took and i think he may well show some loyalty.

However if this whole financial thing is as bad as appears with Blues and they dont go up, cant sign players, etc he may also think that he has done all he can.

As much as i would like a Martinez, Rodgers, Lambert, Adkins for their style i also think that although we are appealing to some managers i think those managers may well look at us as a bit of a sideways move. We are probably around where we are going to finish each season so they may look and think can we actually make them that much better, where as the clubs they are at now there reputations are golden and they can afford to probably get relegated and know they would have another year in the job.

Thats not putting us down, i think we are an attractive propostion to many managers, good league position, well run, good academy, no debt, history, facilities, fanbase, etc but i also wonder how many managers who are proven or are on a high at the moment would be prepared to come in under our setup, not knocking our setup, the club is more important than any one person but not sure all managers would fancy the setup.

Agree for us to be attractive to a manager we have to offer them an opportunity they haven't already got. So those currently at a club in the mid to lower table premier league mix probably won't come for a bit more money which it is all it would boil down to.

There are 3 obvious candidates in the Championship Hughton, MacKay and Poyet. Unfortunately Birmingham and Cardiff are in the play - offs so one or the other might be in the Premier League with their current clubs, although as you say things look a bit dicey at Blues regardless of which Division they are in so Hughton could be tempted just by the stability we would offer.

Other than those names we might look overseas Micheal Laudrup has been mentioned elsewhere in this thread it is not beyond Ashworth and Peace to make a completely left field appointment another coup like Hodgson could be on the cards. However whoever we appoint will work with the system the club has or they will not be hired it really is that simple.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: WBAinDEVON on April 30, 2012, 11:04:43 AM
Now there is a name we forgot to mention Alan Irvine
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on April 30, 2012, 11:06:33 AM
Now there is a name we forgot to mention Alan Irvine

Luckily the majority of us forgot.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on April 30, 2012, 11:09:06 AM
ALAN IRVINE and DEREK MCINNES are at the hawthorns this morning ! interviews already .

I very much doubt that considering Hodgson is still our boss.

Could you please not post rumours like that, please, unless you can back it up.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Wbahunty on April 30, 2012, 11:13:28 AM
Looks like were going to be taking a step backwards Anyone like Irvine or McIness are simply not good enough for WBA anymore. Yes if we were still in the YOYO fase but were not! Were looking to get 4 years in the premier league and push the club forward! If we get one of these managers people are naming i can only see us back on that peice of string we was on 3-4 seasons ago!

Benitez is the only manger who would be a step forward in this situation!

Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: AidantheBaggies on April 30, 2012, 11:14:33 AM
ALAN IRVINE and DEREK MCINNES are at the hawthorns this morning ! interviews already .

Load of rubbish!!!
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: BB74 on April 30, 2012, 11:15:21 AM
Looks like were going to be taking a step backwards Anyone like Irvine or McIness are simply not good enough for WBA anymore. Yes if we were still in the YOYO fase but were not! Were looking to get 4 years in the premier league and push the club forward! If we get one of these managers people are naming i can only see us back on that peice of string we was on 3-4 seasons ago!

Benitez is the only manger who would be a step forward in this situation!

What makes you think Benitez would come to us when he could practically cherry pick the club he manages? 
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: OldburyWBA on April 30, 2012, 11:15:37 AM
Benitez won't come as he wants European football.

As for Irvine behave, he must have took a wrong turning, dingleland is down the road.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: BobTaylor on April 30, 2012, 11:16:53 AM
Holloway for me play some nice football and get the entertainment back down the hawthorns.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Dudleylad on April 30, 2012, 11:18:00 AM
Nice football hasnt got us to this point, you can play nice football but you need to be effective at getting the result in this league. Holloway just doesnt do that at this level.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: wba1993dave on April 30, 2012, 11:19:02 AM
Malky Makaay - got Cardiff to a league cup final and got Cardiff to 6th place. Not bad after losing 11 players last summer. Him or Hughton for me. Or maybe holloway.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: tremtastic on April 30, 2012, 11:19:38 AM
Holloway or Martinez for me.

I want to see us playing football again.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: AlbionBest on April 30, 2012, 11:21:37 AM
Some worrying names quite high up in that list:..

http://www.oddschecker.com/football/football-specials/west-brom-specials/next-permanent-manager
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Wbahunty on April 30, 2012, 11:25:37 AM
If we dont get sombody of Benitez is qaulity, or someone who is as good as Roy then i wont be renewing my season ticket because i dont wanna get on that yoyo string again!
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: WBAinDEVON on April 30, 2012, 11:26:42 AM
Holloway or Martinez for me.

I want to see us playing football again.


Either of them would do for me for that very reason
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: leeiswba on April 30, 2012, 11:28:39 AM
If we dont get sombody of Benitez is qaulity, or someone who is as good as Roy then i wont be renewing my season ticket because i dont wanna get on that yoyo string again!

Cracking support that mate, remember where we have come from over the last 20 years!
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: OldburyWBA on April 30, 2012, 11:29:18 AM
If we dont get sombody of Benitez is qaulity, or someone who is as good as Roy then i wont be renewing my season ticket because i dont wanna get on that yoyo string again!

How do you know if whoever comes in won't be as good as Roy ? all managerial appointments are risky and can go either way.

I hope we're not going to turn into villa and act like arseholes if its someone unpopular.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Jack Russell on April 30, 2012, 11:34:02 AM
I would like to see Holloway too
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Wbahunty on April 30, 2012, 11:34:22 AM
Cracking support that mate, remember where we have come from!

10 years ive had my season ticket this year, Roy has given us the best season we have ever had and the half a term he did before he was fantastic!

Were not back where we have come from before, i never thought Roy would be a manager and I slated so many people on here who belived he would! He was too big for us, and to be fair he still is!

WBA to England Job is a massive jump.

If we want to move on then we have to bring in a manager who will take us to that next step, 8th in the league, a cup final, Europe??? I just do not see how getting anyone in who is no where near as good as Hodgson would be benifical to the club.

If the club are not willing to make that step and invest in a top qaulity manager, well nethier am I!

Simple!
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: OldburyWBA on April 30, 2012, 11:38:10 AM
10 years ive had my season ticket this year, Roy has given us the best season we have ever had and the half a term he did before he was fantastic!

Were not back where we have come from before, i never thought Roy would be a manager and I slated so many people on here who belived he would! He was too big for us, and to be fair he still is!

WBA to England Job is a massive jump.

If we want to move on then we have to bring in a manager who will take us to that next step, 8th in the league, a cup final, Europe??? I just do not see how getting anyone in who is no where near as good as Hodgson would be benifical to the club.

If the club are not willing to make that step and invest in a top qaulity manager, well nethier am I!

Simple!

How about wait and see what happens and whoever it is back the bloke.

This year will be my 35th and i've seen some absolute dogshite up here but would an unpopular manager appointment stop me ? not a chance.

Two names Bobby Gould and Ron Saunders.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Albion79 on April 30, 2012, 11:40:07 AM
For me, i think we now an established premiership club, everything off the field appears to be good, i would like a young manager who may be here for the long term, i dont want somebody like a Bruce, Hoddle, Curbishley, who just do the rounds.

I wouldnt mind a Karl Robinson, MK Dons i have seen a few times and they are great to watch and succesful, they play great football and he himself is well connected within football and well respected, he may be unproven but some club will no doubt take a chance on him and i wouldnt mind it being us.

Perhaps a Poyet, Soljskaer, somebody who has the hunger, wants to play good football and improve, if we are going to be around midtable it would be good if we can play entertaining football to go with it!

I think the likes of Benitez, Ranieri, etc are a step to far, they have nothing to prove, they probably couldnt take us to Champs League which is what they would want without massive funds which we havent got and they would also want massive salaries, i think we struck gold with Roy as he has come off a difficult time with Liverpool, his reputation had sank and he knew the England job was coming up when Capello went, so we needed him and he needed us, i am not sure a Benitez or Ranieri need us to be honest.

Forgot to add, maybe Chris Powell?
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Wbahunty on April 30, 2012, 11:42:25 AM
How about wait and see what happens and whoever it is back the bloke.

This year will be my 35th and i've seen some absolute dogshite up here but would an unpopular manager appointment stop me ? not a chance.

Two names Bobby Gould and Ron Saunders.

Money is tight, with Roy i belive that we would be safe once more next year and have a good season simlar to this one!

If we dont bring in anyone good, then to be honest I dont wanna risk my money going up most saturdays moaning and coming back disapointed, feeling let down and like ive wasted my money!

If i could afford a season ticket without even having to save then id be up every season but if we get Steve Bruce or Irvine McInnies im not taking that risk!

Good enough reason for ya? I have trust in Roy Hodgson.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: OldburyWBA on April 30, 2012, 11:45:04 AM
Moneys tight for almost everyone.

How do you know anyone is good ? Big names do not guarantee anything.

Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Savvas78 on April 30, 2012, 11:47:24 AM
Interesting to see that Paolo Di Canio isn't on the poll list considering the other names that have made it on there! He's had great success with Swindon this season.

Personally I wouldn't want him anywhere near our club, but it would be interesting to see some of your opinions on him.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Dudleylad on April 30, 2012, 11:47:53 AM
No in all honesty I dont think its a good enough reason in my view.

Just look at Everton when they appointed Moyes he wasnt the fans choice but look what hes done.

The main criteria is that the manager will work in our coaching/player procurement set up if they arent prepared to do that I dont care how good they are they can do one.


Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Wbahunty on April 30, 2012, 11:49:31 AM
Moneys tight for almost everyone.

How do you know anyone is good ? Big names do not guarantee anything.

Too True, but i never expected us to get Roy Hodgson, and belived we would get in a less experianced manager like Hughton...I was proven wrong and had the mick took out of me on here because I fort Hodgson was to big for us.

Which he has turned out to be!

Look what a BIG name did for us...id have more faith in a better more acomplished and experianced manager!

We will see, and i wouldnt get on anyones back if we got someone who I didnt want.

To be honest i just dont wanna be let down...
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Webby on April 30, 2012, 11:56:33 AM
I've ticked Hughton and Martinez either would be fine although will support anyone the club decides to appoint
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: nick_wba on April 30, 2012, 11:56:41 AM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/chrisbevan/2012/04/ranieri_relishes_return_to_eng.html

This interview is from the 2nd April, Ranieri states that he would relish a return to England, believes it is the only place for him to go now. He states "It is my life to be a coach," he explained. "And of course I would like to come back as soon as possible, but now it is important to take the right job. I would like the right project, a good project."

There are many ways you can perceive what he means by a 'right' and 'good' project. For all I know I could be taking it out of context and all it means is that he wants to go to a top 6 club and splash the cash. However, I think we have a strong case in showing that we really are growing as a club and the 'project' that the Albion are currently working on would appeal to the majority of ambitious managers.

I personally wouldn't class Ranieri as 'too big' for the Albion, you don't buy a ticket you don't win the raffle. I think we are a very attractive prospect and Ranieri could be swayed into buying in to what the club wants to achieve.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: DaveWBA on April 30, 2012, 11:57:28 AM
Too True, but i never expected us to get Roy Hodgson, and belived we would get in a less experianced manager like Hughton...I was proven wrong and had the mick took out of me on here because I fort Hodgson was to big for us.

Which he has turned out to be!

Look what a BIG name did for us...id have more faith in a better more acomplished and experianced manager!

We will see, and i wouldnt get on anyones back if we got someone who I didnt want.

To be honest i just dont wanna be let down...

No one wants to be let down, the only reason we got Hodgson in my opinion was due to his poor showing at Liverpool. No one else was willing to take the gamble on him.

That said, Hodgson was not the sole reason behind our success of the last season and a half, look at the squad we now have. We have good depth and this is definately the best team in many of our lifetimes, as has been stated we went through some right sh*te to get where we are now and I can't see Ashworth or JP throwing that away by appointing the wrong manager.

The work Hodgson has done has set us up as a mid-table club which is a decent prospect for many managers looking to get into the PL and with the players currently in our side any manager worth his salt should be able to comfortably keep us up.

Have a bit of faith.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: LegendOfAstle on April 30, 2012, 12:00:24 PM
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: tuamigos on April 30, 2012, 12:03:34 PM
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Wbahunty on April 30, 2012, 12:04:34 PM
No one wants to be let down, the only reason we got Hodgson in my opinion was due to his poor showing at Liverpool. No one else was willing to take the gamble on him.

That said, Hodgson was not the sole reason behind our success of the last season and a half, look at the squad we now have. We have good depth and this is definately the best team in many of our lifetimes, as has been stated we went through some right sh*te to get where we are now and I can't see Ashworth or JP throwing that away by appointing the wrong manager.

The work Hodgson has done has set us up as a mid-table club which is a decent prospect for many managers looking to get into the PL and with the players currently in our side any manager worth his salt should be able to comfortably keep us up.

Have a bit of faith.

This was what started it all, we are no longer looking to a manager to comfortably keep us up, we looking for a manager who can take us to the next step, 9th 8th 7th, cup final, european football!

If we do get these names that people are mentioning like Phill Brown and Paul Jewell then to be quiet frank you can understand why I am slightly concered about getting back on that Yoyo String!
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: BB74 on April 30, 2012, 12:06:15 PM
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: hunsletbaggie on April 30, 2012, 12:08:04 PM

Either of them would do for me for that very reason
Either one of Holloway or Martinez would see a return to yo yo-ness
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: LegendOfAstle on April 30, 2012, 12:14:03 PM
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Jimbo Baggy on April 30, 2012, 12:16:24 PM
Why is the majority of the vote for Chris Hughton,decent championship manager but dont think hes much as a Premiership one.Personally dont think its an improvement on Roy if we go along with him.

I would love the club to branch out,maybe try a European coach who's familiar working with the set up we have.Not to many names about who I would like,would love Roberto Martinez or Rafa Benitez but some how dont think we could afford them.

My vote was for Michael Laudrup,did well with Getafe and Mallorca in Spain.Good player and plays good attractive football.Plus surely would be able to entice some good young European players.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: ian on April 30, 2012, 12:17:00 PM
How about wait and see what happens and whoever it is back the bloke.

This year will be my 35th and i've seen some absolute dogshite up here but would an unpopular manager appointment stop me ? not a chance.

Two names Bobby Gould and Ron Saunders.
And one of those won the league and european cup
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: tuamigos on April 30, 2012, 12:19:58 PM
And one of those won the league and european cup

He didn't win the European Cup
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: RowleyBaggie2 on April 30, 2012, 12:21:39 PM
10 years ive had my season ticket this year, Roy has given us the best season we have ever had and the half a term he did before he was fantastic!

Were not back where we have come from before, i never thought Roy would be a manager and I slated so many people on here who belived he would! He was too big for us, and to be fair he still is!

WBA to England Job is a massive jump.

If we want to move on then we have to bring in a manager who will take us to that next step, 8th in the league, a cup final, Europe??? I just do not see how getting anyone in who is no where near as good as Hodgson would be benifical to the club.

If the club are not willing to make that step and invest in a top qaulity manager, well nethier am I!

Simple!

10 years? In that case you've been spoilt.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Wbahunty on April 30, 2012, 12:23:19 PM
10 years? In that case you've been spoilt.

Indeed, but hence im only 22...that has been my lifetime!
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: jonny on April 30, 2012, 12:28:01 PM
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Jack Russell on April 30, 2012, 12:30:47 PM
Nearly spat my drink out then.

Surely these should be in the definitely not thread?


Wolves fan possibly :D
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Sloanranger on April 30, 2012, 12:35:43 PM
How about Paulo Di Canio? he must be worth a shout.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: RowleyBaggie2 on April 30, 2012, 12:36:53 PM
Indeed, but hence im only 22...that has been my lifetime!

But you have still been spoilt, hence why older fans will laugh at your stance.

I'd go for the following five in order of preference.....

1. Chris Hughton.
2. Ole Gunnar Solskjaer
3. Steve McClaren
4. Gus Poyet
5. Malky Mackay

All would fit into our system and have good club records.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: LegendOfAstle on April 30, 2012, 12:39:24 PM
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: tommi on April 30, 2012, 12:46:12 PM
Well Hodgson has been our first manager with PL experience and we have broken almost all our records in the league.

If the board have ANY sense they will realise this and stick to managers of the same ilk.

We have had the Robsons, Mowbrays, and RDM's who have all been (at the time) decent prospects as managers, much like Clark, Robinson, Di Caneo etc...

Simply cannot beat experience.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: FallOutBoy on April 30, 2012, 12:49:55 PM
Well Hodgson has been our first manager with PL experience and we have broken almost all our records in the league.
If the board have ANY sense they will realise this and stick to managers of the same ilk.

We have had the Robsons, Mowbrays, and RDM's who have all been (at the time) decent prospects as managers, much like Clark, Robinson, Di Caneo etc...

Simply cannot beat experience.

Robson had quite a few years in charge of Middlesbrough in the top flight, yet it didn't matter when at ours.

I really don't know who I want to replace Roy. Its a bit of a difficult act to follow, while getting it wrong would have dire consequences for the club.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: jonny on April 30, 2012, 12:54:16 PM
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: tommi on April 30, 2012, 12:55:57 PM
How about Paulo Di Canio? he must be worth a shout.

Why on earth would we want him.

Constantly in the media for the wrong reasons, arguing with players, NO top flight experience.

He has done less than RDM had done when he was appointed.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Greenock Baggie on April 30, 2012, 12:56:39 PM
You could have reservations about all of the names on that list tbh. They all give me worries of one kind or another. Either too set in their ways, not playing the type of football most of us want to see, no experience, too much experience, etc etc etc.

We'll just have to wait and see what happens, either way, none of us has any sway over what happens and who we appoint so we just have to get behing whoever it is that comes in and see where it takes us.

Its a crying shame that just as we seem on the up, something happens to dash our hopes just like in 1979 for those who remember that far back. On the cusp of a real great team and then it all broke up and we know what happened after....... :'( :'(
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: up_the_baggies on April 30, 2012, 12:58:16 PM
It's important to note that any manager who is to come in, is going to have to be able to work within the structure of the club. This will rule out a lot of candidates - those who won't work under a strict budget will not come, simply put.


Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Savvas78 on April 30, 2012, 12:58:37 PM
Well Hodgson has been our first manager with PL experience and we have broken almost all our records in the league.

If the board have ANY sense they will realise this and stick to managers of the same ilk.

We have had the Robsons, Mowbrays, and RDM's who have all been (at the time) decent prospects as managers, much like Clark, Robinson, Di Caneo etc...

Simply cannot beat experience.

I agree to an extent, but that then leaves only a handful of feasible candidates. Them being the dinosaurs: Curbishley, Allardyce, Bruce et al.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: RowleyBaggie2 on April 30, 2012, 12:59:51 PM
How about Paulo Di Canio? he must be worth a shout.

We don't do racism at this club.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: WestBromJim on April 30, 2012, 01:02:02 PM
I agree with Greenock pros and cons with everybody, but whoever comes in we have to back, I can see some jumped up cockerknee, just dying to have a pop at Roy before a ball has been kicked. Lets not act like jumped up Cocks.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: LegendOfAstle on April 30, 2012, 01:04:07 PM
Look what Jewell did at Derby......

You could say that about alot of managers. Look what mcclaren did at forest and england, look what Keane did at ipswich. Doesnt make them bad managers.

You could even say before roys appointment - look what roy did at liverpool,inter, finland. Some people are not Right for certain jobs. Jewell could be perfect for us.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Richie on April 30, 2012, 01:07:04 PM
My five in order would be

1. Chris Hughton
2. Roberto Martinez
3. Alan Curbishley
4. Sam Alladyce
5. Steve McLaren

That's why I dont work for any boards lol
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: the rainbow turn east on April 30, 2012, 01:08:49 PM
Start voting for Michael Laudrup!!!!
Plays exciting football and has experience of working with a techincal director.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: brummyroader on April 30, 2012, 01:15:21 PM
Slaven Bilic of Croatia, no one has mentioned him think he would be great.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: smosher34 on April 30, 2012, 01:17:25 PM
Where you had that from?
went to get a ticket today for my young one and thay where both there on the car park walking into the hawthorns clear as day
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: westbrom87 on April 30, 2012, 01:17:58 PM
I think Di Canio and Peace would get on like a house on fire.

Wait...hang on........I think Di Canio would end up setting Peace's house on fire.



I loved Solskjaer as a player, so with a bit of heart ruling head type tought, I'd probably go for him as first choice.

Curbishley seems to be getting a lot of mentions on the NOT board, but I think that just like Hodgson is a safe bet for England, Curbishley would be a safe bet for us.  Plus he sadi no to the Dingles........TWICE.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: smosher34 on April 30, 2012, 01:19:17 PM
I very much doubt that considering Hodgson is still our boss.

Could you please not post rumours like that, please, unless you can back it up.
i saw the pair of them with my own eyes today just before 10 so i can back it up an wouldnt post on here if didnt see them !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! not a rumour its a fact !!!!!! thay are at the hawthorns this morning
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: BB74 on April 30, 2012, 01:19:37 PM
went to get a ticket today for my young one and thay where both there on the car park walking into the hawthorns clear as day

Why does that mean they have been interviewed then? Doubt they would go together and its strange as all the interviewing and player recruitment is done from the training ground offices.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: westbrom87 on April 30, 2012, 01:20:06 PM
who are?
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: smosher34 on April 30, 2012, 01:20:43 PM
Load of rubbish!!!
load of rubbish is it so why are thay up there today then !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: westbrom87 on April 30, 2012, 01:21:07 PM
Whoever you are talking about, there are a load of tv vans in the east stand so it would be plastered over sky sports news now.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: nick_wba on April 30, 2012, 01:21:57 PM
Awful banter from smosher34
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: smosher34 on April 30, 2012, 01:24:02 PM
Why does that mean they have been interviewed then? Doubt they would go together and its strange as all the interviewing and player recruitment is done from the training ground offices.
so why are thay up there then ? well thay are there this morning so make your own minds up
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: smosher34 on April 30, 2012, 01:25:27 PM
its not banter its a fact ! believe what you like backed it up and ask anyone who works there they will agree with what i have said .
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: FallOutBoy on April 30, 2012, 01:27:15 PM
My top five choices:

1: Roberto Martinez
2: Brendan Rodgers
3: Slaven Bilic
4: Roberto Di Matteo (unfinished business)
5: Paul Lambert
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: smosher34 on April 30, 2012, 01:27:18 PM
Whoever you are talking about, there are a load of tv vans in the east stand so it would be plastered over sky sports news now.
perhaps i should get a job on sky sports then ay  :P derek was in a big gold merc on his own and irvine had 2 others with him didnt no who thay was
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Mister AT on April 30, 2012, 01:30:53 PM
Doubt we'd start interviewing when techincally we still have a manager.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: WG Richardson on April 30, 2012, 01:31:27 PM
Haven't read all the posts but Paulo Di Canio would be a brave but very amusing choice!!

I'm joking really but we really don't want anyone like Bruce and Brown or in my opinion Mcinnes or Appleton...
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: tuamigos on April 30, 2012, 01:32:40 PM
Doubt we'd start interviewing when techincally we still have a manager.

and Roy hasn't taken the England job yet
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: smosher34 on April 30, 2012, 01:32:54 PM
well they are there so make your own minds up !
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: the rainbow turn east on April 30, 2012, 01:33:06 PM
My 5 would be:

Slaven Bilic
Michael Laudrup
Chris Hughton
Derek McInnes
Uwe Rosler
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Jack Russell on April 30, 2012, 01:34:10 PM
well thay are there so make your own minds up !


I was told Terry Vennables is at the training ground :o
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: BB74 on April 30, 2012, 01:38:34 PM
My mates brothers neighbours cousin has just seen Ray Graydon at the club shop picking up some half price home shirts. While he was there he popped in for an interview and apparently he is in pole position.


Don't doubt my mates brothers neighbours cousin he saw it with his own eyes!!!  ;D
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: VANDERLEI on April 30, 2012, 01:48:35 PM
I'll be over the moon if we get Curbishley. Fantastic manager who has always got teams to over achieve and also encourages more attractive football than Hodgson. We need to replace Roy with somebody who has been there and done it before. Nobody else available who I can think of is more suited to this criteria than Curbishley.

My second choice would be Brendan Rodgers. Done fantastic with Swansea and plays attractive football.

A close third choice for me would be Paul Lambert. Again, has done wonders with an average squad and small budget.

We need to avoid the likes of McInnes, Poyet, Appleton, Di Cannio. They'll have their chance eventually but we need stability and experience, that's why Curbishley is the man.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: CL3MO on April 30, 2012, 02:04:09 PM
I thought people were laughing when Steve McLaren was heavily linked with the Villa job, no thanks.

Still Hughton or Martinez for me if he does leave Wigan.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: VANDERLEI on April 30, 2012, 02:11:32 PM
Martinez has taken a side with a higher combined salary than ours to the brink of relegation each season he's been in charge. Why on earth would we want that?
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Moggas barmy army on April 30, 2012, 02:14:19 PM
In all honesty were talking about experience at this level and I think realistically the only man that ticks those boxes and is available is Bruce. I think it's pretty likely we could see him in the hot seat. It wouldnt be a popular appointment but it wouldnt be a disaster. I think he had some torrid luck at both Blues and Sunderland with injuries and he didnt do a bad job with Wigan. Personally wouldnt be my choice but he's a much better candidate than half the names been banded about
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Jack Russell on April 30, 2012, 02:17:07 PM
If Bruce got it  >:(
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Signor_Maresca on April 30, 2012, 02:19:37 PM
I'll be over the moon if we get Curbishley. Fantastic manager who has always got teams to over achieve and also encourages more attractive football than Hodgson. We need to replace Roy with somebody who has been there and done it before.
 

I disagree, Curbishley's brand of football is every bit as functional, and some may say stifling, as Hodgson's style if not more so.

I also doubt he would be interested in working in our structure, he would view it as a constraint to his management style.  I would be seriously disappointed of we were to go for him.

I have complete faith in the club getting it right, the last few appointments have been spot on.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Critical Baggie on April 30, 2012, 02:25:36 PM
i saw the pair of them with my own eyes today just before 10 so i can back it up an wouldnt post on here if didnt see them !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! not a rumour its a fact !!!!!! thay are at the hawthorns this morning

They don't even interview at the Hawthorns mate! The club is run from the training ground these days.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Moggas barmy army on April 30, 2012, 02:26:11 PM
If Bruce got it  >:(

I'd rather Bruce over Kiley, Appleton, Mowbray and half the other names been banded about by the bookies
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: mulliganstired on April 30, 2012, 02:28:40 PM
Not Bruce.  No. Nononono.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: VANDERLEI on April 30, 2012, 02:30:30 PM
I disagree, Curbishley's brand of football is every bit as functional, and some may say stifling, as Hodgson's style if not more so.

I also doubt he would be interested in working in our structure, he would view it as a constraint to his management style.  I would be seriously disappointed of we were to go for him.

I have complete faith in the club getting it right, the last few appointments have been spot on.

He won't have a choice in what structure he works in as all clubs are going the same way especially with the financial fair play restrictions being introduced. I would have agreed with your point a few years ago but those days are gone now.

I wasn't saying Curbishley's brand of football was on par with Brazil or a Mowbray team, but he does employ a slightly more attacking brand than Hodgson in my opinion, not that I have a problem with Hodgson style, at the end of the day we can play like Stoke every week and be bored to tears, as long as we win, that's all I care about. We can start thinking about expansive attractive football when we can sign the players to do so and still survive year after year.

Answer me this mate (not having a go, everyone has got different ideas on who's the best man for the job):

What part of Curbishleys managerial record suggests to you that he couldn't come to the Hawthorns and carry on consolidating our Prem status?
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: OldburyWBA on April 30, 2012, 02:32:07 PM
They don't even interview at the Hawthorns mate! The club is run from the training ground these days.

and I would imagine that any interviews would take place even away from there, possibly at our offices in London or a local hotel.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: WBArgo on April 30, 2012, 02:34:44 PM
Any news/latest on who's the favourite. Personally I'd like Hughton or Martinez, but can't see either happening. Worrying times!
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: VANDERLEI on April 30, 2012, 02:36:29 PM
As for people suggesting Steve Bruce, he may be a bit of a potato headed twonk but he's a good manager with lots of experience. Wouldn't be my first choice but I wouldn't be too disappointed either. Rather him than some others mentioned with no prem experience whatsoever.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: wba1993dave on April 30, 2012, 02:37:36 PM
Theres a guy on Twitter called Fourth Official he has just said Curblishey is a top target for us. He is normally right most of the times. Curblishey would be a decent appointment but would he fit in with the current structure.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: VANDERLEI on April 30, 2012, 02:39:47 PM
Theres a guy on Twitter called Fourth Official he has just said Curblishey is a top target for us. He is normally right most of the times. Curblishey would be a decent appointment but would he fit in with the current structure.

It would make sense. Like for like replacement, no compensation payable, lots of experience succeeding on a shoe string budget. I prefer Curbishley to Hodgson anyway.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: JDWest_Brom on April 30, 2012, 02:42:22 PM
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: VANDERLEI on April 30, 2012, 02:45:44 PM
Hughton wouldn't be a bad shout, not my personal preference but another manager I wouldn't get a impending sense of doom about.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: JDWest_Brom on April 30, 2012, 02:54:56 PM
Hughton's odds have gone out to 7/2 and Curbishley's have shortened to 3/1 so he is the new favourite.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Signor_Maresca on April 30, 2012, 02:55:43 PM

Answer me this mate (not having a go, everyone has got different ideas on who's the best man for the job):

What part of Curbishleys managerial record suggests to you that he couldn't come to the Hawthorns and carry on consolidating our Prem status?

Absolutley nothing. He did a remarkable job at Charlton and was unfortunate at West Ham, I'm in agreement in that he would take off from where Hodgson left. However, as you have stated you are solely focused on results, whereas as I want a decent brand of football, not at the expense off results and I'm not a Barca/Mowbray (style over result type)'purist' but I believe in balance and playing decent football. In that respect I believe Hughton to be an ideal candidate.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: reiss on April 30, 2012, 02:58:55 PM
Hughton's odds have gone out to 7/2 and Curbishley's have shortened to 3/1 so he is the new favourite.


were can you find the odds mate
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Boinggg on April 30, 2012, 03:00:03 PM
odds:

http://www.betting-directory.com/football/next-west-brom-manager-odds.php
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: VANDERLEI on April 30, 2012, 03:02:20 PM
Absolutley nothing. He did a remarkable job at Charlton and was unfortunate at West Ham, I'm in agreement in that he would take off from where Hodgson left. However, as you have stated you are solely focused on results, whereas as I want a decent brand of football, not at the expense off results and I'm not a Barca/Mowbray style over result type 'purist' but I believe in balance and playing decent football. In that respect I believe Hughton to be an ideal candidate.

Hughton is a good shout and does play a decent brand of football. Don't get me wrong, I want to be entertained as much as anybody but I'm happy to wait a few years for us to get financially stronger by staying in this league while others around us struggle. There are a few managers out there that will do a good job if they come, for me Curbishley is the lowest risk and like for like replacement. I do get where your coming from though and as you say, Hughton is proving to be a good manager. 
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Boinggg on April 30, 2012, 03:03:28 PM
been directly onto bet365 website and odds changed considerably since this morning. curbs now into 3/1 from 11/1
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: WBArgo on April 30, 2012, 03:04:07 PM
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Kicking Pigeons on April 30, 2012, 03:09:54 PM
Appointing Curbishley would be as exciting as a night out in Bearwood.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Nocky on April 30, 2012, 03:10:23 PM
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: TROCAL on April 30, 2012, 03:12:34 PM
Why Curbishley???? He aint worked for 3 years!!!! ???
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: JDWest_Brom on April 30, 2012, 03:15:40 PM
Because he'll be cheap!

That will be our main criteria as always.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: JDWest_Brom on April 30, 2012, 03:19:31 PM
Theres a guy on Twitter called Fourth Official he has just said Curblishey is a top target for us. He is normally right most of the times. Curblishey would be a decent appointment but would he fit in with the current structure.

Just had a look and they didn't say Curbishley is 'a' top target. They said Curbishley is 'the' top target.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: The Joust on April 30, 2012, 03:20:59 PM
Why Curbishley???? He aint worked for 3 years!!!! ???

Does that mean he's forgotton everything he's learned in his years of management...?
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Dudleylad on April 30, 2012, 03:23:35 PM
I just cant see Curbishley allowing someone else to identify transfer targets.

You also have to seriously doubt his passion for the game now.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: GrGr on April 30, 2012, 03:35:07 PM
We don't do racism at this club.

Exactly don't want that fascist a-hole (DiCanio) anywhere near our club...
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: DevonBaggie on April 30, 2012, 03:36:31 PM
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Tom_WBA_93 on April 30, 2012, 03:37:50 PM
Neil Lennon anyone?  ;)
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: up_the_baggies on April 30, 2012, 03:40:25 PM
Phil Brown and Steve Bruce  :o

Is it happy hour down the pubs already?
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: tuamigos on April 30, 2012, 03:42:00 PM
Neil Lennon anyone?  ;)

No, he's got more issues than Delia Smiths got recipes!
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: VANDERLEI on April 30, 2012, 03:42:19 PM
I just cant see Curbishley allowing someone else to identify transfer targets.

You also have to seriously doubt his passion for the game now.

I don't buy into that. Curbishley will have input into signings just the same way that Roy had and regarding his passion for the game, he has never really put a foot wrong in his managerial career so far, I've got no reason to think he'll start now. I don't think he would put himself in for a job if he wasn't looking to do a good job. Otherwise, he'd have just took the Wolves job, surely?
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: GrGr on April 30, 2012, 03:45:13 PM
Curbishley to me is just another one of the dinosaurs. We've seen what he can do and that isn't particularily impressive. He belongs to days gone by and should stay there. Just like O'Neill at Villa Curbishley left Charlton when the ship began to leak, and his work at West Ham wasn't impressive imo. There is a reason he hasn't got a new job for years.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: AidantheBaggies on April 30, 2012, 03:48:41 PM
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: GrGr on April 30, 2012, 03:49:48 PM
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: VANDERLEI on April 30, 2012, 03:50:20 PM
Curbishley to me is just another one of the dinosaurs. We've seen what he can do and that isn't particularily impressive. He belongs to days gone by and should stay there. Just like O'Neill at Villa Curbishley left Charlton when the ship began to leak, and his work at West Ham wasn't impressive imo. There is a reason he hasn't got a new job for years.

With that logic, Hodgson (much more of a "dinosaur") was a bad appointment and should have never been employed. Complete nonsense, our current dinosaur has delivered our two best premier league finishes in history.

Curbishley left Charlton in good shape, after he left they get relegated 2 out of the next 3 seasons. If you weren't impressed with the miracle he worked at West Ham keeping them up, then nothing will impress you.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: GrGr on April 30, 2012, 03:54:05 PM
With that logic, Hodgson (much more of a "dinosaur") was a bad appointment and should have never been employed. Complete nonsense, our current dinosaur has delivered our two best premier league finishes in history.

Curbishley left Charlton in good shape, after he left they get relegated 2 out of the next 3 seasons. If you weren't impressed with the miracle he worked at West Ham keeping them up, then nothing will impress you.

Hodgson was Manager of the Year recently. Curbishley wasn't. Curbishley is a dinosaur because he isn't that impressive. Hodgson is a dinosaur because he plays negative football that hasn't changed for ages and ages and ages but he has managed to find a niche and thrive there. Curbishley has been out of work for ages, and that is for a reason.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Sealandair on April 30, 2012, 03:55:05 PM
Seems he has a bit of talent yes. Wouldn't surprise me if we have him on the shortlist.

Nor me, cheapo option
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on April 30, 2012, 03:56:27 PM
Neil Lennon anyone?  ;)

It's took him nearly two years to win the SPL with argubably the better team out the old firm. Rangers have been in decline for a while and have still won four on the trot up until this season. They were also aided by HMRC this year due to Rangers having the ten point deduction which effectively won it for them.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: OldburyWBA on April 30, 2012, 03:57:26 PM
Hodgson was Manager of the Year recently. Curbishley wasn't. Curbishley is a dinosaur because he isn't that impressive. Hodgson is a dinosaur because he plays negative football that hasn't changed for ages and ages and ages but he has managed to find a niche and thrive there. Curbishley has been out of work for ages, and that is for a reason.

To be fair I think much of the reason for him being out of work was the  case with West Ham.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: reiss on April 30, 2012, 04:00:29 PM
my mate said paul lambert, but there is no way thats going to happen
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: BB74 on April 30, 2012, 04:01:04 PM
To be fair I think much of the reason for him being out of work was the  case with West Ham.

That was concluded in November 2009 I believe, I might be wrong though.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: VANDERLEI on April 30, 2012, 04:01:24 PM
Hodgson was Manager of the Year recently. Curbishley wasn't. Curbishley is a dinosaur because he isn't that impressive. Hodgson is a dinosaur because he plays negative football that hasn't changed for ages and ages and ages but he has managed to find a niche and thrive there. Curbishley has been out of work for ages, and that is for a reason.

Yeah, there were legal reasons preventing him taking another job. Saying Curbishley isn't impressive is simply unrealistic. His record speaks for itself. If you choose to overlook the facts in favour of specualtion and conjecture then that's up to you. Fact is though, Curbishley kept a team of similar stature to ourselves in the Premier League, almost getting a spot in the Champions League one year when they finished 7th.

You don't stay at a club for over 700 games without being a damn good manager. Not many last that long in this generation of football. That should tell you everything about his ability to manage a Premier League team.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: OldburyWBA on April 30, 2012, 04:02:11 PM
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Jack Russell on April 30, 2012, 04:03:03 PM
my mate said paul lambert, but there is no way thats going to happen


He wont leave Norwich for little ole Albion
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Tom_WBA_93 on April 30, 2012, 04:03:15 PM
It's took him nearly two years to win the SPL with argubably the better team out the old firm. Rangers have been in decline for a while and have still won four on the trot up until this season. They were also aided by HMRC this year due to Rangers having the ten point deduction which effectively won it for them.

If I remember right, Celtic were already ahead of Rangers before this deduction, after Rangers blew a 15 point lead? Celtic went on to win like 15 games in a row I think.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: GrGr on April 30, 2012, 04:05:48 PM
Nor me, cheapo option

I don't care if our new manager is cheap, as long as he is good.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: BB74 on April 30, 2012, 04:06:26 PM
Yeah, there were legal reasons preventing him taking another job. Saying Curbishley isn't impressive is simply unrealistic. His record speaks for itself. If you choose to overlook the facts in favour of specualtion and conjecture then that's up to you. Fact is though, Curbishley kept a team of similar stature to ourselves in the Premier League, almost getting a spot in the Champions League one year when they finished 7th.

You don't stay at a club for over 700 games without being a damn good manager. Not many last that long in this generation of football. That should tell you everything about his ability to manage a Premier League team.

Dario Gradi  ;D
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: VANDERLEI on April 30, 2012, 04:06:30 PM
A 3 year break from football can be a positive thing as much as a negative thing, so I wouldn't buy into the significance that a hiatus like that would have on Curbishley's ability to do the job. This wouldn't be like Dalglish coming back after years, the Premier League has actually got easier if anything during the 3 years he was absent.


Dario Gradi  ;D

The exception proves the rule. I meant Premier League team anyway  :D
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Jack Russell on April 30, 2012, 04:07:25 PM
Brian Horton just left Macclesfield.His mate Phil Brown needs a job too
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: GrGr on April 30, 2012, 04:09:47 PM
Yeah, there were legal reasons preventing him taking another job. Saying Curbishley isn't impressive is simply unrealistic. His record speaks for itself. If you choose to overlook the facts in favour of specualtion and conjecture then that's up to you. Fact is though, Curbishley kept a team of similar stature to ourselves in the Premier League, almost getting a spot in the Champions League one year when they finished 7th.

You don't stay at a club for over 700 games without being a damn good manager. Not many last that long in this generation of football. That should tell you everything about his ability to manage a Premier League team.

Yes he was impressive with Charlton for a very long time, but then towards the end I think he burnt out. To me he belongs to the ex-managers now.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on April 30, 2012, 04:10:14 PM
If I remember right, Celtic were already ahead of Rangers before this deduction, after Rangers blew a 15 point lead? Celtic went on to win like 15 games in a row I think.

They did, but that's expected to be honest as they have without doubt the best side in Scotland. What about the opening three months of the season where Celtic flopped, as they have done throughout the majority of Lennon's reign. As far as I'm aware, they have also lost three finals under his stewardship. The second Rangers went into admin was when Lennon & Celtic won the league. Certainly not a great achievement, beating a side who were in turmoil from top to bottom.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: VANDERLEI on April 30, 2012, 04:15:52 PM
Yes he was impressive with Charlton for a very long time, but then towards the end I think he burnt out. To me he belongs to the ex-managers now.

Based on the fact his last stint as manager of West Ham consisted of winning 7 games out of 9 to keep them up when they looked doomed, then taking them to a top 10 finish the following season. Then winning 2 out of the opening 3 games of the next season before getting wrongfully dismissed (proven in court).

Please explain, what part of this is unimpressive and suggests he was finished towards the end of his marathon stint at Charlton?
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: DaveWBA on April 30, 2012, 04:18:06 PM
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Greenock Baggie on April 30, 2012, 04:18:47 PM
Based on the fact his last stint as manager of West Ham consisted of winning 7 games out of 9 to keep them up when they looked doomed, then taking them to a top 10 finish the following season. Then winning 2 out of the opening 3 games of the next season before getting wrongfully dismissed (proven in court).

Please explain, what part of this is unimpressive and suggests he was finished towards the end of his marathon stint at Charlton?
You cant argue with that record can you Vanderlei, I would be just a wee bit concerned about his time away from football cited as one of King Kennys downfalls and we all know what most WBA fans think of him !
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: VANDERLEI on April 30, 2012, 04:21:36 PM
You cant argue with that record can you Vanderlei, I would be just a wee bit concerned about his time away from football cited as one of King Kennys downfalls and we all know what most WBA fans think of him !

Yeah, of course it could be an issue, but on the other hand, the break could have revitalised him and be positive. I doubt he would take a job if his heart wasn't in it. It's not like he needs the money.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Greenock Baggie on April 30, 2012, 04:24:49 PM
Yeah, of course it could be an issue, but on the other hand, the break could have revitalised him and be positive. I doubt he would take a job if his heart wasn't in it. It's not like he needs the money.
Thats true, but the only example we have to go by is Dogleish and he has negative comments due to the way he still thinks he can deal with the press like he did 3 years ago.

We can but hope that Curbs would be different but we have no proof, only Dogleish to go by.

Either way, as I said earlier, we'll just have to wait and see !
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Hull Baggie on April 30, 2012, 04:27:40 PM
Slaven Bilic would be a good shout I think although he lacks Premiership managment experience ..not sure he'd leave Croatia.

 I wouldn't mind Martin Jol but again not sure he'd entertain coming here to manage.

I'd like us to go for a manager with Premiership experience. Someone who can keep up the good work Roy has already done but make us more attractive to watch.

Definitlely wouldn't want Phil Brown, Ian Holloway or Neil McInnes. McInnes is too inexperienced and Brown and Holloway are jokes and would take us backwards.

At the end of the day I'd rather have Roy!
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Greenock Baggie on April 30, 2012, 04:31:52 PM
Neil McInnes is a comedian, surely you mean Derek McInnes..................Oh wait, I see where youre coming from  :D ;D
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: GrGr on April 30, 2012, 04:45:26 PM
Based on the fact his last stint as manager of West Ham consisted of winning 7 games out of 9 to keep them up when they looked doomed, then taking them to a top 10 finish the following season. Then winning 2 out of the opening 3 games of the next season before getting wrongfully dismissed (proven in court).

Please explain, what part of this is unimpressive and suggests he was finished towards the end of his marathon stint at Charlton?

Curbishley had a win percentage of 40 % with West Ham and less than that with Charlton. At least he is better than Bruce. Also the reason resigned from his job at West Ham was that he didn't have the control over transfers he wanted. He then sued West Ham.

"On 3 November 2009, Curbishley won his case for constructive dismissal against West Ham United. After the ruling, he said: "I am obviously delighted with this result. I very much enjoyed my time at West Ham and never wanted to leave, but on joining the club I insisted that my contract contained a clause confirming that I would have final say on the selection of players to be transferred to and from the club."[22]

Doesn't seem like a man comfortable working in our system.

Im no expert on West Ham and what went wrong there, I am simply going by my gut feel and Curbishley has never really made an impression on me as an interesting manager. I could be wrong of course, has happened before. 
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: kris_boing on April 30, 2012, 04:50:32 PM
Curbishley 11/10 on SkyBet.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: smosher34 on April 30, 2012, 04:51:38 PM
They don't even interview at the Hawthorns mate! The club is run from the training ground these days.
so you tell me what thay where doing up there today then ! seeing as you know
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Greenock Baggie on April 30, 2012, 04:52:12 PM
Wrong there mate, Hodgson has final say on who we signed. He just doesnt have to come up with the list of who we choose from, thats what Ashworth does, but Roy always has the say-so of who we sign. We never signed anyone without his final OK while he was here.

No manager would do that, but its Ashworth who compiles the list of available players, then the manager says who he wants off that list.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: VANDERLEI on April 30, 2012, 04:53:22 PM
Curbishley had a win percentage of 40 % with West Ham and less than that with Charlton. At least he is better than Bruce. Also the reason resigned from his job at West Ham was that he didn't have the control over transfers he wanted. He then sued West Ham.

"On 3 November 2009, Curbishley won his case for constructive dismissal against West Ham United. After the ruling, he said: "I am obviously delighted with this result. I very much enjoyed my time at West Ham and never wanted to leave, but on joining the club I insisted that my contract contained a clause confirming that I would have final say on the selection of players to be transferred to and from the club."[22]

Doesn't seem like a man comfortable working in our system.

Im no expert on West Ham and what went wrong there, I am simply going by my gut feel and Curbishley has never really made an impression on me as an interesting manager. I could be wrong of course, has happened before.

You talk about 40% win percentage as a negative. Roy has 38.46% win percentage with us and he is our most successful manager in recent history. Again, I'm not really sure what you are expecting to get from a manager.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: jim68 on April 30, 2012, 04:55:51 PM
Not Bruce.  No. Nononono.
certainly not for me /how many times has he upped sticks and walked leaving clubs in the lurch  >:(
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: geoff on April 30, 2012, 04:56:13 PM
Chris Hughton can work on the budget that JP likes to work with as for spotting good solid talent on which to get the best out of for that we would have to wait & see
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: GrGr on April 30, 2012, 05:00:41 PM
It wasn't a negative it was just a fact. Curbishley may be a safe pair of hands, but I am just scared witless we will end up with another Hodgson type.

I did not enjoy many games this season, and, unlike many here, I do not think you have to be bored out of your mind to ensure safety. We were well safe last year, in a tougher league, playing entertaining football. so that logic is clearly inaccurate.

I'd like to get someone intelligent in who can bring some forward thinking into the game and play good, positive creative football. And that includes being solid defensively.  ::) We now, for the first time in decades, have a PL worthy squad, and it would take a seriously incompetent manager to drop us down again imo, especially if we strengthen this summer.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: divinewind on April 30, 2012, 05:04:52 PM
Hughton fits the bill for me and he will be fed up with the transfer embargo at Blues. So him.

Curbishley i fell always likes London and we would always be looking over our shoulders when a job became available there.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: leeiswba on April 30, 2012, 05:05:11 PM
so you tell me what thay where doing up there today then ! seeing as you know

It could be for anything, but I can tell you as a fact that the an interview would/will not take place at the Hawthorns.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: up_the_baggies on April 30, 2012, 05:08:15 PM
so you tell me what thay where doing up there today then ! seeing as you know

They were at an LMA managers meeting at the hawthorns.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: GrGr on April 30, 2012, 05:08:31 PM
Wrong there mate, Hodgson has final say on who we signed. He just doesnt have to come up with the list of who we choose from, thats what Ashworth does, but Roy always has the say-so of who we sign. We never signed anyone without his final OK while he was here.

No manager would do that, but its Ashworth who compiles the list of available players, then the manager says who he wants off that list.

It was the same with RdM I believe, it makes sense to include the Head Coach in such decisions.

But believe it was a different situation with Roy. We just promised Roy whatever he wanted so he would sign for us. Not sure we will be that open with just anyone.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Lloydy on April 30, 2012, 05:09:18 PM
It has to be Chris Hughton for me, with the mess at Blues I think he's nailed on to be our new manager unless they go up.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: smosher34 on April 30, 2012, 05:10:12 PM
They were at an LMA managers meeting at the hawthorns.
yes i know just asked CL so all them who said back it up go on twitter and you will see thay where there today ! thank you
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: TheColossus on April 30, 2012, 05:12:29 PM
I voted for Brendan Rodgers.  But I think a foreign manager from France, or Spain might be hired
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: up_the_baggies on April 30, 2012, 05:12:34 PM
yes i know just asked CL so all them who said back it up go on twitter and you will see thay where there today ! thank you

To be fair, you were right in saying they were there ;D

Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: OldburyWBA on April 30, 2012, 05:13:40 PM
yes i know just asked CL so all them who said back it up go on twitter and you will see thay where there today ! thank you

But not for the interviews as you originally said
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: leeiswba on April 30, 2012, 05:16:08 PM
yes i know just asked CL so all them who said back it up go on twitter and you will see thay where there today ! thank you

You said they were there for an interview though  :-\ lol
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Jack Russell on April 30, 2012, 05:16:23 PM
Anyone who thinks we can get Bredon Rogers or Paul Lambert or even Martinez for that matter needs to think why they would leave their current clubs for ours, also JP aint going to pay compo is he.Its most likely going to be someon out of work like Bruce etc
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: smosher34 on April 30, 2012, 05:19:00 PM
ok thay not there for interveiws ! should have put a question mark then  ;) still there !
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Jack Russell on April 30, 2012, 05:20:37 PM
ok thay not there for interveiws ! should have put a question mark then  ;) still there !


Irvine could be sounded out though whilst there, the cheap option
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Moggas barmy army on April 30, 2012, 05:25:08 PM
How did Curbishley leave his former clubs. It's just since he left Charlton they went into financial oblivion and the same as West Ham. Just wondering whether he had anything to do with that might be something to consider. Mind with JP in charge i doubt that will be a problem
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: GrGr on April 30, 2012, 05:33:34 PM
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Post by: Moggas barmy army on April 30, 2012, 05:42:27 PM
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: WBASPE77 on April 30, 2012, 05:44:49 PM
Lee Clark anyone?
Hughton is the man I would love here, my seocnd option would be Holloway.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: JBullyWBA on April 30, 2012, 05:44:56 PM
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: GrGr on April 30, 2012, 05:46:39 PM
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Baggies on April 30, 2012, 05:54:49 PM
I dont want Curbishley really, for the same reasons as Gr Gr. There are quite a few options available to us like Hughton (hopefully), Poyet, Mackay, Powell and foreign coaches. Curbs isnt a bad coach and I think Villa should look at him but he is old fashioned and I want to continue with the head coach model.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: RedHead_Baggie on April 30, 2012, 05:56:02 PM
If its outside of the M25 Curbishley won't want to know.

I think our best bet would be to wait and see how the championship playoffs pan out then approach either Hughton or Mackay either of whom would fit into our current setup.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: boot2006 on April 30, 2012, 06:42:16 PM
Martinez for me.  I'd drive him there myself if he was interested in us.  Best manager in the premier league after Fergusson, Wenger and Hodgson.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Standaman on April 30, 2012, 06:45:17 PM
There has to be better options out there than Curbishley old school gaffer really not what we want a lot of the mess at West Ham and Charlton stems from some of his profligate spending. Would not be allowed to do that here but that in itself would be an issue. I think he also turned us down flat when we were in the Championship when we hired RDM not sure how that would play with Peace.

To my mind the most obvious candidates are

Hughton MacKay and Poyet. Nothing will happen while the former are still involved in the play-offs. Poyet has 2 years to run on his contract and BHA will not be a pushover when it comes to negotiations.

Of the current pool of unemployed managers most strike fear into my heart but Lee Clarke could be worth talking to.

I doubt any of the current premier league managers would want the role badly enough to leave clubs where they are well thought of which rules out Martinez, Lambert, and Rodgers. There  might be a parting of the ways between Coyle and Bolton but probably only if they get relegated not sure we would want a manager whose most recent experience was leading a club to relegation.

Other than that the only alternative would be an overseas coach like Micheal Laudrup who has been mentioned elsewhere on this thread. 
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Sealandair on April 30, 2012, 06:50:00 PM
this wont take long
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: richjonawba on April 30, 2012, 06:52:41 PM
this wont take long
I think thats the point. Hes a young upcoming manager, trying to make a name for himself, yet still has some premier league experience. Also the fact he has done well in both his managerial positions so far suggests he'd be a decent shout.

We arent going to get someone who has "done" anything, im guessing by that you mean won stuff, because we arent a big enough club.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Mat15(MH) on April 30, 2012, 06:53:03 PM
this wont take long

I really appreciate your optimism.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: phbaggies on April 30, 2012, 06:53:25 PM
Dick advocaat leaving his post as Russia manager after euros, fits the cheap and experienced bracket?
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: GrGr on April 30, 2012, 06:53:55 PM
Who is 'he'?  ???
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: phbaggies on April 30, 2012, 06:59:00 PM
Who is 'he'?  ???
You really don't know? Google him :)
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: GrGr on April 30, 2012, 07:04:37 PM
You really don't know? Google him :)

Damn! it's an old fart I knew it!  :P
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Floydy on April 30, 2012, 07:05:38 PM
Didn't Megson recently turn down the Dingles  :D  ;)

He'd suit Hodgson's squad.  :D
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: GrGr on April 30, 2012, 07:07:32 PM
Didn't Megson recently turn down the Dingles  :D  ;)

He'd suit Hodgson's squad.  :D

I think Megson has his eyes on the Villa job after McLeish :)
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: smethwickw on April 30, 2012, 07:09:20 PM
Martinez for me.  I'd drive him there myself if he was interested in us.  Best manager in the premier league after Fergusson, Wenger and Hodgson.

If you only take the last 2 months of each season into account.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: boot2006 on April 30, 2012, 07:10:51 PM
Martinez has agreement with Dave Whelan that he can leave Wigan at the end of the season, should he wish to do so.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on April 30, 2012, 07:11:00 PM
Imagine if Megson was appointed. God help GrGr!  :P
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Baggies on April 30, 2012, 07:11:29 PM
Id question Advocaat's hunger to take on a full time job outside of Holland now. Seems to have been at international clubs for quite a while now.

Would he really want to take on the challenge of a mid table club as well when most of the clubs he has managed in the last 15 years have had a shout at getting champions league football in their own league (PSV, Rangers, AZ, Zenit, B Monchengladbach).
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: AlbionBest on April 30, 2012, 07:11:33 PM
If its outside of the M25 Curbishley won't want to know.

I think our best bet would be to wait and see how the championship playoffs pan out then approach either Hughton or Mackay either of whom would fit into our current setup.

But that could mean approaching a LOSING manager ?
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: GrGr on April 30, 2012, 07:13:43 PM
Imagine if Megson was appointed. God help GrGr!  :P

Haha! :) I do appreciate Megson for what he did for us, even the way he did it. Who doesn't love over achievers? :) I just think he had control freak issues (like the 'scouting') and other issues, and the PL was/is a step too far for him.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Laurie Cunningham on April 30, 2012, 07:18:35 PM
Slaven Bilic ?  ;) would be a good foreign bet , technically  better that all the above , well respected amongst his peers  :)
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Dorrans17 on April 30, 2012, 07:33:29 PM
Please, Paolo Di Canio..
One thing which would be amazing to see, would be his charisma. Plays top football and passionate.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Pseudo_Intel on April 30, 2012, 07:34:42 PM
For me Martinez is the dream here. I think it's slightly unrealistic to think he'd actually consider a move to WBA. He is a top tactician and coach and would suit our continental set up very well.

But, as I've said, the idea that he'd come here is kind of ridiculous; he'll be wanted at a much bigger club than ourselves. Spurs seems like a more realistic bet, but considering the situation they currently find themselves in (with Harry now looking to hold onto his job there) it seems he'd have to be looking elsewhere.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Baggies on April 30, 2012, 07:35:27 PM
Di Canio is too much of a live wire. I wouldnt want him in charge, not with his style being too abrasive.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: rubyruby on April 30, 2012, 07:36:11 PM
If we are looking for continuity and experience is Rafael Benitez the outstanding candidate for the job? He is the closest replacement for Roy currently available for employment I would think. Outstanding experience   and record of achievement. His footballing beliefs all centre around strong defence and zonal marking in exactly the same way that Roy preaches. Is he the man to replace Roy and continue the good work that has been done with the squad. Would he come to WBA is another question but he has stated his desire to remain in the PL and how many of the top 6 jobs are going to be available any time soon. Plus he must be itching to get back in having been out for a couple of seasons? Cant see too many downsides with him.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Pseudo_Intel on April 30, 2012, 07:36:53 PM
If we are looking for continuity and experience is Rafael Benitez the outstanding candidate for the job?

Heard Guardiola is free too.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: GrGr on April 30, 2012, 07:44:24 PM
Heard Guardiola is free too.

Yeah, as soon as he got whiff of the fact the FA was going after Hodgson he went and resigned!
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: rubyruby on April 30, 2012, 07:45:08 PM
Heard Guardiola is free too.

Would we really have thought that we would attract a coach of Roys experience in the first place?
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: GrGr on April 30, 2012, 07:45:49 PM
Would we really have thought that we would attract a coach of Roys experience in the first place?

Roy used us to get back into the England frame.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Pseudo_Intel on April 30, 2012, 07:47:19 PM
Would we really have thought that we would attract a coach of Roys experience in the first place?

Ok, sorry in all seriousness - I can see where you're coming from entirely. I didn't expect to recruit a coach of Hodgson's standard last year.

I just think that, with the money available here at the Albion, surely Benitez wouldn't fancy the prospect of managing a team such as ourselves? It seems unrealistic to me.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Pseudo_Intel on April 30, 2012, 07:48:21 PM
Roy used us to get back into the England frame.

Don't think it's quite like that mate surely?
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: wbarenno on April 30, 2012, 07:55:57 PM
Anybody that thinks benitez would even consider albion is living in cloud cuckoo land. We wouldnt be able to afford him and we aint in his league.

Also managers like rogers lambert and martinez aint going to come to albion why would they its sidewards.also we wouldnt pay the compo for them!

Managers in the lower leagues or out of work are the managers for us.

Hughton if blues stay down would be perfect. If blues come up he aint going to come to us.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: JBullyWBA on April 30, 2012, 07:59:54 PM
Don't think it's quite like that mate surely?

Not quite like that but probably something to do with the fact that he was still smarting from the Liverpool debacle.  Wanting to get back in the saddle and all that. I still think Ashworth sold it to him and he wanted to come here, but i'm sure bigger and better things are always on the mind of a manager of his calibre reaching retirement. Can't say I blame him.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Baggies on April 30, 2012, 08:08:12 PM
Roy used us to get back into the England frame.

Thats a bit unfair GrGr. We have agreed with each other on Hodgson a lot in the past but I think Roy actually came here to rebuild his reputation. We used him to stay up. That's football.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: rubyruby on April 30, 2012, 08:10:13 PM
Ok, sorry in all seriousness - I can see where you're coming from entirely. I didn't expect to recruit a coach of Hodgson's standard last year.

I just think that, with the money available here at the Albion, surely Benitez wouldn't fancy the prospect of managing a team such as ourselves? It seems unrealistic to me.

Well i cant really disagree with that at all intel.....but stranger things have happened. He has been out for a while now and I dont see anything bigger opening up for him bar the Villa.....but are they more attractive than us anymore? He wouldnt even have to move from his Liverpool home and a couple of years with us as a stepping stone a la Roy? wouldnt hurt us would it? Likely wont happen but Im pretty sure he would be a decent fit football wise for where we are now.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: GrGr on April 30, 2012, 08:11:20 PM
Thats a bit unfair GrGr. We have agreed with each other on Hodgson a lot in the past but I think Roy actually came here to rebuild his reputation. We used him to stay up. That's football.

Yeah that's what i mean, I didn't mean it in a negative way. He knew the England job would be free, he had to do something to get back in the saddle, we needed a good experienced manager and everybody was happy.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: WestBromJim on April 30, 2012, 08:26:38 PM
Maradona? :o
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: silver surfer on April 30, 2012, 08:34:10 PM
The amount of votes for Holloway scare the life out of me.
Im hoping that the 5 soles who have voted for Sven are safely back in the warmth of their secure mental institution.
And may that be a lesson to the head warden.....the medication isnt working.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: palfsattic on April 30, 2012, 08:36:24 PM
Chris Hughton for me!
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: bps on April 30, 2012, 08:54:36 PM
has anyone thought of glenn hoddle i know he was a dingle but superb coach and plays good football
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: jonny on April 30, 2012, 08:56:29 PM
Clear favourite by the looks of it!
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: VANDERLEI on April 30, 2012, 08:57:58 PM
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Post by: Mooncat on April 30, 2012, 09:00:18 PM
Also got to wonder if, regardless of what happens in the playoffs, would Blues prefer the compo we'd probably have to pay. Still lacking money and facing possible sanctions if they do get promoted
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: GrGr on April 30, 2012, 09:02:37 PM
Martinez or Hughton, or a similar young hungry manager for me. Martinez has done a wonder job at Wigan but not sure how much of a step up it would be for him to join us, then again, he has nothing to gain staying on as Wigan manager, if he can improve us considerably he will be ready for a top top job.

Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: T.Westwood on April 30, 2012, 09:06:30 PM
has anyone thought of glenn hoddle i know he was a dingle but superb coach and plays good football

 glenn hoddles a good shout
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Baggies on April 30, 2012, 09:10:13 PM
Martinez is improbable, not least due to his relationship with Dave Whelan,  but would love his fantasy football. Gus Poyet also quite exciting.

Hughton feels safer though.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: silver surfer on April 30, 2012, 09:10:52 PM
http://http://www.oddschecker.com/football/football-specials/west-brom-specials/next-permanent-manager

Pep Guardiola is only 100/1 with stan james have they heard a whisper?

Mick MCarthey is as low as 12/1,  astonishing for someone who has been away from the professional game for so many years...

Curbs is the short price favourite.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: GrGr on April 30, 2012, 09:13:53 PM
Martinez is improbable, not least due to his relationship with Dave Whelan,  but would love his fantasy football. Gus Poyet also quite exciting.

Hughton feels safer though.

Yep, those three caught my eye from the list above. Poyet also feels as if he has a good future as manager.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: up_the_baggies on April 30, 2012, 09:15:44 PM
Martinez is improbable, not least due to his relationship with Dave Whelan,  but would love his fantasy football. Gus Poyet also quite exciting.

Hughton feels safer though.

I'm preparing myself for a long wait till the end of the play-offs till we decide on our manager if Hughton is our top choice.

I'm guessing Downing will take charge of the next two games? Will Roy start straight away?
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: reiss on April 30, 2012, 09:39:37 PM
not hoddle, after why he left the england job, about the comments he said about the disabled. check his wickipedia page .


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glenn_Hoddle
would not welcome someone like that into my club
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: baggieheart on April 30, 2012, 09:44:39 PM
Sadly there isn't a realistic candidate who is better than Roy.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: smethwickw on April 30, 2012, 10:18:37 PM
Martinez or Hughton, or a similar young hungry manager for me. Martinez has done a wonder job at Wigan but not sure how much of a step up it would be for him to join us, then again, he has nothing to gain staying on as Wigan manager, if he can improve us considerably he will be ready for a top top job.

I've always liked the way his teams play but I wouldn't say he's done a wonder job there. He's done no better than Bruce did. Wigan only start playing at the end of every season. That aside are we really that much of a step up from Wigan?
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: AlbionBest on April 30, 2012, 10:19:54 PM
Wigan have been shocking for 2/3rds of the season so he's hardly done a great job.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: GrGr on April 30, 2012, 10:34:55 PM
But he has made a limited team play the best it can when it matters the most two years in a row. How many Wigan players would get into our team? Moses over Thomas but that's about it isn't it?
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: BB74 on April 30, 2012, 10:44:08 PM
But he has made a limited team play the best it can when it matters the most two years in a row. How many Wigan players would get into our team? Moses over Thomas but that's about it isn't it?

The thing that worries me about Martinez is that he doesn't get Wigan playing until March. I really don't see the appeal and why he gets so much praise. The Wigan payroll is bigger than ours and on paper he has taken them backwards. Can someone summarise and bullet point why he is so highly thought of because I don't understand why- I'm not the only one either.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: zippyandbungle on April 30, 2012, 10:47:53 PM
Roberto di mateo
Chris hughton
Michael laudrup
Glenn hoddle
Lee Clark

But something tells me Nigel clough??
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: GrGr on April 30, 2012, 10:55:24 PM
The thing that worries me about Martinez is that he doesn't get Wigan playing until March. I really don't see the appeal and why he gets so much praise. The Wigan payroll is bigger than ours and on paper he has taken them backwards. Can someone summarise and bullet point why he is so highly thought of because I don't understand why- I'm not the only one either.

Then again form in March onwards is crucial. We weren't that impressive either until we added Ridgewell and Andrews (and Burton) which pushed us over the bar into mid-table. Wigan may have a higher payroll (who the hell are they paying that much?) but they have also been selling their best players season after season and not replacing like for like, meaning they have had to find a new core each season.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: leeiswba on April 30, 2012, 11:04:59 PM
Anybody suggesting Glenn Hoddle is either a wolves fan on the wind up or forgot about all his managerial positions post 2000  :o
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: HampshireBaggie on April 30, 2012, 11:19:20 PM
Having been thinking about it pretty much all day i have settled for Martinez or Laudrup.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: DownInAlbion on April 30, 2012, 11:28:23 PM
But something tells me Nigel clough??

PLEASE PLEASE NO!! only a manage because of that surname!
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: NathWBA on May 01, 2012, 01:06:25 AM
I like Nigel Adkins but I doubt he will leave Southampton
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Standaman on May 01, 2012, 01:09:55 AM
I think there is some absolute bilge in this morning papers I fear we are about to be linked with every out of work manager any manager who has had any past link with the Albion or any manager who could possibly find their way to the Hawthorns with the assistance of a road map, most which will be pretty much inaccurate.

If you cast your mind back to the last appointment the club got on with the appointment with the minimum of fuss and there was a lot of speculation in the media but nothing concrete from the club until we were ready to make the appointment I would not expect much news for the next few weeks particularly if Hughton is on our radar. To approach Birmingham whilst they are still the play-offs would not get negotiations of to a good start and we really do not need to antagonise them particularly as we will want to do a deal on Foster regardless of who our new Head Coach is.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: boinginoz on May 01, 2012, 02:22:25 AM
Peace has given the green light for the FA to approach Roy Hodgson to fill the empty seat of the England Job. What happens if (or rather when) Hodgson goes? Who comes in? ??? ??? ??? Be realistic!

I would like to see Albion poach Chris Hughton. We are the bigger club compared to Brum and Chris could keep us up next season.... 8)
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Aixelsyd on May 01, 2012, 03:46:13 AM
I would like to see Albion poach Chris Hughton. We are the bigger club compared to Brum and Chris could keep us up next season.... 8)


We need someone to take us forward not just do the same again.....

and frankly I'm not convinced Hughton is all that people on here keep going on about....
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: gerry m on May 01, 2012, 05:08:45 AM
we need an experienced manager! someone who has managed at premier league or similar in europe! going for a young up and coming manager could be a mistake.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: RowleyBaggie2 on May 01, 2012, 06:37:27 AM
Curbishley is many things but cheap isn't one of them.

As for being out of touch, that all depends what he's been doing since leaving west ham and sorting the resulting court case.

Anyone appointed will be signing up to our structure - its not exactly a secret is it?
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: chrisgwba on May 01, 2012, 07:57:24 AM
think we should go for the swansea manager.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Hull Baggie on May 01, 2012, 07:58:34 AM
Neil McInnes is a comedian, surely you mean Derek McInnes..................Oh wait, I see where youre coming from  :D ;D

ooops! yes Derek of course!!! must be the shock of Hodgson going!   Mind you it's Neil Innes that's a comedian!......
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: WBAinDEVON on May 01, 2012, 08:01:14 AM
think we should go for the swansea manager.


and why would he leave Swansea for us
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: WBASPE77 on May 01, 2012, 08:54:21 AM
I really dont see, Lambert, Adkins or Rodgers going, although i would be happy if we got any one of those.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Mister AT on May 01, 2012, 09:08:22 AM
What odds do we actually have of signing Laudrup?

My money would be bet on us signing a coach whos already based in the UK.

We havent had a manager come in from a foreign country in a long while to be honest.

Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: WBAinDEVON on May 01, 2012, 11:06:40 AM
Holloway i see is favourite, only joking :D. I know hes not alot of peoples choice but he would be mine. What a personality to have in the dressing room.Mr motivation and for me great to listen too.Also plays the game most of us would like to see on home soil.

I also see most Wolves fans wouldn't mind him either. Whats confusing is most of ours don't but most of theirs would welcome him.Why are we any different to them ;D
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: tuamigos on May 01, 2012, 11:10:07 AM
Holloway i see is favourite, only joking :D. I know hes not alot of peoples choice but he would be mine. What a personality to have in the dressing room.Mr motivation and for me great to listen too.Also plays the game most of us would like to see on home soil.

I also see most Wolves fans wouldn't mind him either. Whats confusing is most of ours don't but most of theirs would welcome him.Why are we any different to them ;D

I think you'll find that we are more refined.............aye we?
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: east-stand-nick on May 01, 2012, 11:12:26 AM
I trust the board. They've generally done well with managerial appointments in the past decade.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: DudleyBaggieFan on May 01, 2012, 11:26:32 AM
Twitter rumours saying curbishly will be named. Hope not, never rated the guy.

Has to be Hughton for me.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: WBAinDEVON on May 01, 2012, 11:27:28 AM
Twitter rumours saying curbishly will be named. Hope not, never rated the guy.

Has to be Hughton for me.


NoNo Noooooooo to Curbishley
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: dangerman on May 01, 2012, 11:30:14 AM

NoNo Noooooooo to Curbishley

Would wind up the dingles though! lol
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Mister AT on May 01, 2012, 11:38:01 AM
Ive also heard a few whispers that Curbs is a early front runner for the job.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: AidantheBaggies on May 01, 2012, 11:43:59 AM
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: HampshireBaggie on May 01, 2012, 11:45:34 AM
The more i read about him the more i want Laudrup. He's not even an outsider on the odds. Is he unrealistic?
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: BB74 on May 01, 2012, 11:51:31 AM
The more i read about him the more i want Laudrup. He's not even an outsider on the odds. Is he unrealistic?

Sky have him in at 11/1 that is probably based on message board talk though more than anything.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Standaman on May 01, 2012, 11:53:30 AM
Curbishley now 4/5 on favourite with Skybet must be some money going on him. But seriously doubt we would appoint him nor should we. There is no particular rush so very much doubt the club will have been in touch with anyone
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: timdon on May 01, 2012, 11:55:33 AM

NoNo Noooooooo to Curbishley
Couldnt have put it better myself.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: BB74 on May 01, 2012, 11:57:17 AM
We always seem to pull off an unexpected appointment under Peace/Ashworth.

The days after Megson was sacked who thought we would have ended up with Robson.

The days after Robson was sacked who thought we would have ended up with Mowbray.

The days after Mowbray was sacked who thought we would have ended up with Di Matteo.

The days after Di Matteo was sacked who thought we would have ended up with Hodgson.

The early favourites hardly ever pick up the vacant jobs, so I would take the Curbishley link with a pinch of salt.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: LegendOfAstle on May 01, 2012, 11:57:43 AM
Regarding Laudrup.

Yes. Completely unrealistic. Hes a top European coach and Im sad to say out of our league.

The Papers and radio saying its likely to be Hughton. If that is true then i wont be going to many games next season. Nice guy, great coach and a very good number 2 but not prem standard by any means. We need a strong manager, whos been there and done it. I would be inclined to go for someone like Neil warnock or Gordon strachan, or a couple of names people havnt mentioned yet - Kevin keegan, glen hoddle?

Still, My first choice would be jewell at the moment.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: dangerman on May 01, 2012, 11:59:08 AM
Curbishley now 4/5 on favourite with Skybet must be some money going on him. But seriously doubt we would appoint him nor should we. There is no particular rush so very much doubt the club will have been in touch with anyone

I'm not so sure. We've known for a while that Hodgson may leave and I am sure some ground work may have been done with some people.

Obviously the ones in jobs probably haven't been in contact but those like Curbishley and Bruce would have been contacted as a matter of course I would have thought. Unofficially, the club won't have done anything however due to the way Hodgson looks to be leaving I am sure that he would be agreeable for us to start looking for his replacement seeing we've been agreeable to him going for an interview.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: j2k2006 on May 01, 2012, 12:00:38 PM
i know i may get slated but how about AVB... surly has a point to prove as he was slated as a manager but as a coach aswe;; in england.. would he not be tempted to take a club on in england and prove all his doubters wrong about how good a coach he is.. i know it is an unrealistic possibility as he would cost a fortune in wages but he may be tempted to give a big two fingers up to everyone in england who slated him to show them how good he is and that he doesnt need million pounds of transfer kitty and prove how good a manager and coach he is

Time for the onslaught
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: timdon on May 01, 2012, 12:02:16 PM
I would be inclined to go for someone like Neil warnock or Gordon strachan, or a couple of names people havnt mentioned yet - Kevin keegan, glen hoddle?

Still, My first choice would be jewell at the moment.
omg Warnock, Strachan, Keegan, Hoddle. All four would be in my must not list.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: kris_boing on May 01, 2012, 12:03:36 PM
Ashworth has already stated that managers have been watched and that they have been ready for Hodgsons inevitable departure.
 
We'll have managers in mind and if it is Hughton then he will no doubt want to wait until Blues' season has ended in either 2 or 3 games.
 
Hughton is the outstanding candidate IMO so we'll just have to be patient.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: dangerman on May 01, 2012, 12:05:22 PM
omg Warnock, Strachan, Keegan, Hoddle. All four would be in my must not list.

He's got to be a dingle on the wind up surely? lol
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: BB74 on May 01, 2012, 12:10:11 PM
He's got to be a dingle on the wind up surely? lol

Definitely, I clocked it after two posts and got the usual response 'I have been a baggie longer than you' or something to that effect.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Wbahunty on May 01, 2012, 12:11:12 PM
No to Curbs! Im still hoping we get Stuart Pearce!
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: PortsmouthBaggie on May 01, 2012, 12:12:33 PM
i know i may get slated but how about AVB... surly has a point to prove as he was slated as a manager but as a coach aswe;; in england.. would he not be tempted to take a club on in england and prove all his doubters wrong about how good a coach he is.. i know it is an unrealistic possibility as he would cost a fortune in wages but he may be tempted to give a big two fingers up to everyone in england who slated him to show them how good he is and that he doesnt need million pounds of transfer kitty and prove how good a manager and coach he is

Time for the onslaught

I'd love AVB. A lot of people have only seen what he has done at Chelsea but the season before at Porto he had that side playing some unbelievable football, undefeated in the league, won the cup and Europa league. Top coach that would thrive in the head coach role. He may feel he is to big time but the ideal guy for me.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: phbaggies on May 01, 2012, 12:13:10 PM
We have got a good 2/3 months to make the right choice, absolutely no rush at all as all the players will be on holiday until July anyway and Dan Ashworth will be doing the scouting already for next season.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: LegendOfAstle on May 01, 2012, 12:13:54 PM
Im sure if you went on the southampton forums before the atkins employment they would of said "your on the windup" if the physios name was mentioned.

Im a realist unlike many with some of the names they have put foward. Benitez, martinez, laudrup. Look at our previous managers, mowbray, megson, hodgson, di Matteo, robson - all did little or nothing before coming to us and now all of a sudden we can go for top managers? Live in the real World guys (I wish we didnt have to but we do).
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Wbahunty on May 01, 2012, 12:15:37 PM
I'd love AVB. A lot of people have only seen what he has done at Chelsea but the season before at Porto he had that side playing some unbelievable football, undefeated in the league, won the cup and Europa league. Top coach that would thrive in the head coach role. He may feel he is to big time but the ideal guy for me.

Would like to see AVB manage albion, a name i had not even considerd but its not too far off the same standard as Roy Hogdson!

Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: albion59 on May 01, 2012, 12:16:21 PM
Regarding Laudrup.

Yes. Completely unrealistic. Hes a top European coach and Im sad to say out of our league.

The Papers and radio saying its likely to be Hughton. If that is true then i wont be going to many games next season. Nice guy, great coach and a very good number 2 but not prem standard by any means. We need a strong manager, whos been there and done it. I would be inclined to go for someone like Neil warnock or Gordon strachan, or a couple of names people havnt mentioned yet - Kevin keegan, glen hoddle?

Still, My first choice would be jewell at the moment.
are you for real!?
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Hong Kong Phooey on May 01, 2012, 12:17:31 PM
Chris Hughton was very close to getting the job last time.

Nothing in the last 18 months would suggest that he will not be near the top of this list this time as well.

I would be very happy with him indeed - not a big name or a big ego - just a down to earth coach who worked wonders with the trouble hit Geordies and Bluenoses.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: kris_boing on May 01, 2012, 12:18:11 PM
Would love to hear LegendofAstles explanation for some of those names mentioned.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: westbrom4ever on May 01, 2012, 12:20:53 PM
Would like to see AVB manage albion, a name i had not even considerd but its not too far off the same standard as Roy Hogdson!

WUM?

AVB is in a completely different league to Roy..
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: GrGr on May 01, 2012, 12:21:02 PM
Regarding Laudrup.

Yes. Completely unrealistic. Hes a top European coach and Im sad to say out of our league.

The Papers and radio saying its likely to be Hughton. If that is true then i wont be going to many games next season. Nice guy, great coach and a very good number 2 but not prem standard by any means. We need a strong manager, whos been there and done it. I would be inclined to go for someone like Neil warnock or Gordon strachan, or a couple of names people havnt mentioned yet - Kevin keegan, glen hoddle?

Still, My first choice would be jewell at the moment.

How do you know he isn't prem standard? He did ok with Newcastle after taking them up. Hughton as we all know has done a stellar job at two clubs in very difficult circumstances proving that his abilities are not a fluke. Who knows what he could do in more settled circumstances at a PL club like ours.

I'd far rather have someone young, intelligent and hungry with fresh ideas and energy, over necromancing some old worn out has been that thinks he has the recipy based on past experience from two decades ago.

Lambert, Rodgers etc show the way to go.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Critical Baggie on May 01, 2012, 12:24:16 PM
Would like to see AVB manage albion, a name i had not even considerd but its not too far off the same standard as Roy Hogdson!

Same. AVB would be great to get in on the long term. Could see him building something worthwhile over time.

I just think he is a bit out of our league and if ever approached he'd snub it, he's too ambitious to manage a club like us.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: hunsletbaggie on May 01, 2012, 12:25:26 PM
WUM?

AVB is in a completely different league to Roy..
Yeah he's in the Blue Square Premier
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Wbahunty on May 01, 2012, 12:26:09 PM
WUM?

AVB is in a completely different league to Roy..

Disagree, Hodgson took Fulham to the Europa League final and failed at liverpool.

AVB took Porto proberbly the same standard as Fulham and won the Final, went to chelsea and failed!

Hes less experianced, but hes a young manager!

I dont see to much differnce!
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: westbrom4ever on May 01, 2012, 12:31:04 PM
Disagree, Hodgson took Fulham to the Europa League final and failed at liverpool.

AVB took Porto proberbly the same standard as Fulham and won the Final, went to chelsea and failed!

Hes less experianced, but hes a young manager!

I dont see to much differnce!

Porto same standard as Fulham? wow.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: phbaggies on May 01, 2012, 12:34:42 PM
Porto same standard as Fulham? wow.
History wise no, but I agree with WBAhunty put Porto in the prem and they would be no better than mid table IMO the same as Fulham, but thats a different argument for another topic.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: LegendOfAstle on May 01, 2012, 12:43:26 PM
Ok. The names I mentioned.

Gordon Strachan - Overall managerial record with a 44% win ratio(hodgson Overall record win % is 43% fyi) - 3 spl titles and 3 cups with celtic. FA cup runner up with southampton. Good manager, deserves another crack.

Glen hoddle - Got england playing the best football for years and we havnt played better since (14 years). Win % record of 60% with england - will roy better that? Doubt it.

Kevin keegan - manager of the most entertaining Team the prem has ever seen. Failed at england yes but an Overall managerial record of 50%win ratio.

Paul jewell - Been there done it with wigan. A win ratio of 43.6% with wigan (I am noting wigan because thats the only time hes managed for long in the prem) would be easy to get and with a bigger budget than wigan we can be consistent in the prem.

Neil Warnock - Little to be said about the man other than he deserves a crack with a established prem club, not a team he has got promoted and dumped harshly early on. Cheap again and could get the best out of what we have.

These are all realistic and cheap options with potential to do well.




Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Savvas78 on May 01, 2012, 12:44:52 PM
AVB did well at Porto to put it mildly.... But any manager with a forward pairing of Hulk and Falcao is going to tear defences apart!

Villas Boas fell victim to the old guard players over inflated egos at Chelsea and was undermined to the point where his position became untenable. Of course he would be a fantastic coach for the albion and would fit in perfectly with the structure we have in place, but realistically have we got a chance??
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: FallOutBoy on May 01, 2012, 12:45:33 PM
Ok. The names I mentioned.

Gordon Strachan - Overall managerial record with a 44% win ratio(hodgson Overall record win % is 43% fyi) - 3 spl titles and 3 cups with celtic. FA cup runner up with southampton. Good manager, deserves another crack.

Glen hoddle - Got england playing the best football for years and we havnt played better since (14 years). Win % record of 60% with england - will roy better that? Doubt it.

Kevin keegan - manager of the most entertaining Team the prem has ever seen. Failed at england yes but an Overall managerial record of 50%win ratio.

Paul jewell - Been there done it with wigan. A win ratio of 43.6% with wigan (I am noting wigan because thats the only time hes managed for long in the prem) would be easy to get and with a bigger budget than wigan we can be consistent in the prem.

Neil Warnock - Little to be said about the man other than he deserves a crack with a established prem club, not a team he has got promoted and dumped harshly early on. Cheap again and could get the best out of what we have.

These are all realistic and cheap options with potential to do well.

Are you a Wolves / Villa fan signed up to take the pee?

Stan, is that you?
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: AlbionBest on May 01, 2012, 12:48:16 PM
Interestingly, over 500 votes now.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: PortsmouthBaggie on May 01, 2012, 12:53:14 PM
AVB did well at Porto to put it mildly.... But any manager with a forward pairing of Hulk and Falcao is going to tear defences apart!

Villas Boas fell victim to the old guard players over inflated egos at Chelsea and was undermined to the point where his position became untenable. Of course he would be a fantastic coach for the albion and would fit in perfectly with the structure we have in place, but realistically have we got a chance??

I don't see any harm in trying our luck.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: VANDERLEI on May 01, 2012, 12:54:48 PM
Ok. The names I mentioned.

Gordon Strachan - Overall managerial record with a 44% win ratio(hodgson Overall record win % is 43% fyi) - 3 spl titles and 3 cups with celtic. FA cup runner up with southampton. Good manager, deserves another crack.

Glen hoddle - Got england playing the best football for years and we havnt played better since (14 years). Win % record of 60% with england - will roy better that? Doubt it.

Kevin keegan - manager of the most entertaining Team the prem has ever seen. Failed at england yes but an Overall managerial record of 50%win ratio.

Paul jewell - Been there done it with wigan. A win ratio of 43.6% with wigan (I am noting wigan because thats the only time hes managed for long in the prem) would be easy to get and with a bigger budget than wigan we can be consistent in the prem.

Neil Warnock - Little to be said about the man other than he deserves a crack with a established prem club, not a team he has got promoted and dumped harshly early on. Cheap again and could get the best out of what we have.

These are all realistic and cheap options with potential to do well.


You missed a few off that list......

Mick McCarthy
Mark McGee
Steve Bull


You're welcome.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: LegendOfAstle on May 01, 2012, 01:00:11 PM
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: FallOutBoy on May 01, 2012, 01:03:56 PM
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: OldburyWBA on May 01, 2012, 01:04:49 PM
Paul Jewell ? doesn't he have one of the worst records as a Prem boss while at Derby ?
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: AidantheBaggies on May 01, 2012, 01:10:41 PM
I'd rather have Mr Bean or the Teletubbies in charge than have Paul Jewell.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: KingKoren on May 01, 2012, 01:11:15 PM
Curbs odds have been slashed on skybet - I hope it's not him.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: LegendOfAstle on May 01, 2012, 01:11:33 PM
I am just saying these are the kind of people we should be going for and more likely than most of the names said.

Another possibility - Billy Davies? Did cracking job at forest and is out of work? Thoughts?
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: OldburyWBA on May 01, 2012, 01:12:09 PM
I am just saying these are the kind of people we should be going for and more likely than most of the names said.

Another possibility - Billy Davies? Did cracking job at forest and is out of work? Thoughts?

Being heavily linked to take over at Hull fortunately
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Reddiebaggie on May 01, 2012, 01:14:36 PM
I think we should try to entice TC away from the dingles, he has already given us more pleasure than any other manager so far.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Rich99 on May 01, 2012, 01:15:58 PM
After Roy's success I get the felling the club may well go for a more of an experienced steady hand rather than one in the RDM or Mowbray type mould.  I get the feeling it might be Curbishley.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Nocky on May 01, 2012, 01:16:44 PM
Martinez or Hughton, or a similar young hungry manager for me. Martinez has done a wonder job at Wigan but not sure how much of a step up it would be for him to join us, then again, he has nothing to gain staying on as Wigan manager, if he can improve us considerably he will be ready for a top top job.

How exactly has Martinez done a 'wonder' job at Wigan? Since taking over they have finished 16th, 16th and are currently 16th this season. They finished 5 points behind us last season and they are 9 points behind us this season with what I would imagine is a comparable transfer and wage budget.

They survived by the skin of the teeth last season and have hit a good run at the right time this season, before which they looked odds on to go down. They have only won 4 games at home all season and until their drubbing of Newcastle they had the lowest home goals tally in all of the 4 divisions. Martinez has just about achieved what is expected of him at Wigan, nothing more, nothing less.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: baggie_liam on May 01, 2012, 01:17:37 PM
i voted for Martinez, think he fits the Head Coah role perfectly. But i can see it being Chris Hughton if Blues dont come back up, he's only on a rolling contract, they have debts still, surely would prefer to be in the PL managing again.
Nobody else realistic excites me.  i think we should forget even talking about names like Benitez and AVB.. never in a million years would they come to us. (although can all but dream)
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: AlbionBest on May 01, 2012, 01:18:28 PM
Chris HAoughton has been asked about the Albion position on Sky just but was obviously and understandably very evasive.

Does anyone know if he actually got an interview with the Albion before we got Roy in ?
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Standaman on May 01, 2012, 01:21:29 PM
I am just saying these are the kind of people we should be going for and more likely than most of the names said.

Another possibility - Billy Davies? Did cracking job at forest and is out of work? Thoughts?

Okay for someone who is not on the wind up you are certainly mentioning managers Warnock & Davies in particular that would get a negative response from most Baggies fans even if they were gods of coaching and they are not.

I think you might find yourself in a very small minority in welcoming either Davies or Warnock to the Hawthorns you are of course entitled to your opinion but do not be surprised if you get slated on here.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: KingKoren on May 01, 2012, 01:22:17 PM
Chris HAoughton has been asked about the Albion position on Sky just but was obviously and understandably very evasive.

Does anyone know if he actually got an interview with the Albion before we got Roy in ?

He certainly said he did. He also didn't hold any grudges about not getting it and he was treated very well during the process.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: smethwickw on May 01, 2012, 01:23:19 PM
After Roy's success I get the felling the club may well go for a more of an experienced steady hand rather than one in the RDM or Mowbray type mould.  I get the feeling it might be Curbishley.

I totally agree. The other types haven't really worked for us. We need someone with experience and a decent reputation who can attract a better calibre of player too. I wouldn't be disappointed if Curbishley was appointed. There are no real stand out candidates for me though.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Nocky on May 01, 2012, 01:23:40 PM
I see some of those who have been critical of Hodgson's football stating that they are in favour of Hughton being appointed.

I like Hughton and would be happy with his appointment but there have been complaints about his style of football from both Newcastle and Birmingham fans. He's certainly not a long ball merchant but he by no means gets his teams playing free flowing football. From what I have seen and heard of him he is very much a 442 man with an emphasis on organisation.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: kris_boing on May 01, 2012, 01:25:53 PM
Chris HAoughton has been asked about the Albion position on Sky just but was obviously and understandably very evasive.

Does anyone know if he actually got an interview with the Albion before we got Roy in ?

Quote
Crucially, he is no stranger to Albion's board.
Hughton, who is on a one-year rolling contract, was close to getting the job  before Roy Hodgson arrived in February 2011, particularly impressing chairman  Jeremy Peace during the interviewing process
This bit was pulled from this article http://www.birminghammail.net/birmingham-sport/west-bromwich-albion-fc/west-bromwich-albion-fc-news/2012/05/01/west-brom-roy-hodgson-to-be-appointed-england-boss-today-chris-hughton-early-favourite-to-replace-him-97319-30874482/ (http://www.birminghammail.net/birmingham-sport/west-bromwich-albion-fc/west-bromwich-albion-fc-news/2012/05/01/west-brom-roy-hodgson-to-be-appointed-england-boss-today-chris-hughton-early-favourite-to-replace-him-97319-30874482/)
 
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: smethwickw on May 01, 2012, 01:26:03 PM
I see some of those who have been critical of Hodgson's football stating that they are in favour of Hughton being appointed.

I like Hughton and would be happy with his appointment but there have been complaints about his style of football from both Newcastle and Birmingham fans. He's certainly not a long ball merchant but he by no means gets his teams playing free flowing football. From what I have seen and heard of him he is very much a 442 man with an emphasis on organisation.

A seamless transition then.  ;D
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: WBAinDEVON on May 01, 2012, 01:26:13 PM
Curbs odds have been slashed on skybet - I hope it's not him.

You are seriously depressing me now
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: KingKoren on May 01, 2012, 01:27:27 PM
Does anyone think it will benefit us having Hodgson, a significant name in football, leaving on good terms and speaking highly about us?.Surely that will make us a more attractive proposition for potential managers if Roy highly recommends us.  Not many managers leave on good terms.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Standaman on May 01, 2012, 01:27:34 PM
Certainly was interviewed at the time and it was between him and Hodgson. There was some doubt as to whether or not Roy would accept the post and Hughton would have almost certainly been appointed had he not.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Standaman on May 01, 2012, 01:35:55 PM
On the subject of Laudrup being beyond our reach he has managed Getafe in Spain who are La Liga's Wigan and Mallorca who are a mid-table team albeit one that seems to be locked into a perpetual state of financial crisis. That is not Barcalona or Real Madrid so not out of our reach. Not sure of the wisdom of importing a coach with no experince of English football but not out of our reach
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: BoingFlyer on May 01, 2012, 01:44:56 PM
Does anyone think it will benefit us having Hodgson, a significant name in football, leaving on good terms and speaking highly about us?.Surely that will make us a more attractive proposition for potential managers if Roy highly recommends us.  Not many managers leave on good terms.

I agree it would make a very good impression, also the fact that our other previous manager is now a Champions league finalist. We could become viewed as a club who is set up that could help managers get to the very top of European football.

Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Savvas78 on May 01, 2012, 01:45:24 PM
On the subject of Laudrup being beyond our reach he has managed Getafe in Spain who are La Liga's Wigan and Mallorca who are a mid-table team albeit one that seems to be locked into a perpetual state of financial crisis. That is not Barcalona or Real Madrid so not out of our reach. Not sure of the wisdom of importing a coach with no experince of English football but not out of our reach

Thanks for the background info mate. I don't really know anything about Michael Laudrup's managerial credentials, but what I do know is that he was a world class player back in the day.... Or was that Brian??!!  ???
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: HampshireBaggie on May 01, 2012, 01:56:15 PM
Regarding Laudrup.

Yes. Completely unrealistic. Hes a top European coach and Im sad to say out of our league.

The Papers and radio saying its likely to be Hughton. If that is true then i wont be going to many games next season. Nice guy, great coach and a very good number 2 but not prem standard by any means. We need a strong manager, whos been there and done it. I would be inclined to go for someone like Neil warnock or Gordon strachan, or a couple of names people havnt mentioned yet - Kevin keegan, glen hoddle?

Still, My first choice would be jewell at the moment.

Dingle all day long.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: HampshireBaggie on May 01, 2012, 01:58:52 PM
Laudrup is hardly a top european coach. Player yes but not coach. He did well at Getafe and Mallorca. Similar sized clubs to us.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: VANDERLEI on May 01, 2012, 02:06:12 PM
You are seriously depressing me now

How is a proven track record of premier league success something to be depressed about? I can't understand the mentality of Albion fans dismissing the likes of Curbishley who's record is absolutely superb in modern day Premier League football over a decade plus.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: j2k2006 on May 01, 2012, 02:09:24 PM
i just hope the mr peace sees that we have gone forward under hodgson and this is actually a really important decision ie could make our club or potentially take us 2 steps backwards.  If i was mr peace i would realise this hence why i mentioned AVB i just think that mr peace needs to look at his past appointments cheap options that just couldnt take us to the next level SIR Roy took us to that next level and this is what we need someone to carry on his good work and keep taking us forward.  This will not happen with a cheap option and so he needs to invest in a decent manager
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: lewisant on May 01, 2012, 02:11:37 PM
I'd be happy with curbs
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: VANDERLEI on May 01, 2012, 02:16:27 PM
i just hope the mr peace sees that we have gone forward under hodgson and this is actually a really important decision ie could make our club or potentially take us 2 steps backwards.  If i was mr peace i would realise this hence why i mentioned AVB i just think that mr peace needs to look at his past appointments cheap options that just couldnt take us to the next level SIR Roy took us to that next level and this is what we need someone to carry on his good work and keep taking us forward.  This will not happen with a cheap option and so he needs to invest in a decent manager

You are right mate, we do need to invest well in a manager but AVB? He has already failed in the Prem with one of the best football teams in the world a job even a tactically naive ex-manager of ours is making look easy. While you are right in the sentiment of not penny pinching and bringing in the right man for the job, that man needs to have a good track record (same as Roy had) at keeping teams in the premier league. AVB hasn't proved anything in english football apart from the fact that he failed miserably to capture the respect of the Chelsea dressing room.

I haven't been a massive fan of the way Hodgson has managed many times this year, it took him over half a season to realise that we are better as a 451(433) than a 442, but at the end of the day, our league position is better than I imagined so who am I to question a man of such experience who has consistently produced results? We need someone to bring in stability and a calm head, not a new face trying to make a name. Experience is the key for us at this stage of our evolution into a Premier League regular.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: CL3MO on May 01, 2012, 02:19:04 PM
How is a proven track record of premier league success something to be depressed about? I can't understand the mentality of Albion fans dismissing the likes of Curbishley who's record is absolutely superb in modern day Premier League football over a decade plus.

Curbishley clearly has a massive ego problem. He refuses to even look at a Championship job when people approach him and if he really had love for the game he would have sought out a job a lot sooner than the three years out of works suggests.

He also wanted full control of transfers at West Ham and obviously had this power at Charlton, therefore how does he match the criteria of a head coach?

Again, no thanks. Hughton or Martinez for me.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: KingKoren on May 01, 2012, 02:20:45 PM
You are right mate, we do need to invest well in a manager but AVB? He has already failed in the Prem with one of the best football teams in the world a job even a tactically naive ex-manager of ours is making look easy. While you are right in the sentiment of not penny pinching and bringing in the right man for the job, that man needs to have a good track record (same as Roy had) at keeping teams in the premier league. AVB hasn't proved anything in english football apart from the fact that he failed miserably to capture the respect of the Chelsea dressing room.

I haven't been a massive fan of the way Hodgson has managed many times this year, it took him over half a season to realise that we are better as a 451(433) than a 442, but at the end of the day, our league position is better than I imagined so who am I to question a man of such experience who has consistently produced results? We need someone to bring in stability and a calm head, not a new face trying to make a name. Experience is the key for us at this stage of our evolution into a Premier League regular.

Roy failed at Liverpool didn't he?

I think he AVB is way out of our league but he did not got the respect he should of had from the Chelsea players - sound familiar?
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: addy on May 01, 2012, 02:21:13 PM
Hughton / Martinez for me.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: GrGr on May 01, 2012, 02:21:16 PM
i just hope the mr peace sees that we have gone forward under hodgson and this is actually a really important decision ie could make our club or potentially take us 2 steps backwards.  If i was mr peace i would realise this hence why i mentioned AVB i just think that mr peace needs to look at his past appointments cheap options that just couldnt take us to the next level SIR Roy took us to that next level and this is what we need someone to carry on his good work and keep taking us forward.  This will not happen with a cheap option and so he needs to invest in a decent manager

Sir Roy surfed on the wave built by his predecessors and the club. Roy didn't drop the ball and continued to build us and make us stronger, but it isn't all his work. Ever since we got rid of Robson we have improved on a yearly basis (yes, even when we have been yoyoing, which was part of the growing process). I pray we don't get a Robson throwback/untalented manager as our next appointment, but a modern dynamic coach that can keep helping us grow on and off the pitch.

That is why I am less than lukewarm about managers like Curbishley. I think English football needs to develop and modernize and I want WBA to be at the center of that, with the youth setup as part of that. Curbishley to me has a distinct whiff of the past.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: WBAinDEVON on May 01, 2012, 02:22:46 PM
How is a proven track record of premier league success something to be depressed about? I can't understand the mentality of Albion fans dismissing the likes of Curbishley who's record is absolutely superb in modern day Premier League football over a decade plus.


Just my humble thats all
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Wbahunty on May 01, 2012, 02:23:03 PM
I think AVB is the man we have to go and get! Simply because he is not a step backwards!

Curbs would be IMO and so would Hughton and Hollaway never really dont anything apart from get a team to the premier league and stay there!

We are better than that now and need to start looking at getting top half next season not just Staying up!

AVB FOR ME!
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: MulumbuPower! on May 01, 2012, 02:23:52 PM
Curbishley would definitely provide stability and, providing Blues don't get promotion, Hughton would be a good shout. However I've voted for Solskjaer. Just keep remembering how highly rated he was by Ferguson while in charge of the United Reserves. He's got the results and won the League in Norway. Provided we retain most of our backroom staff and integrate well with Solskjaer's people I think he's got the ability and the desire to build something great. Hodgson's provided a very stable platform.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: up_the_baggies on May 01, 2012, 02:24:57 PM
CL has said Ian Hollow is very unlikely.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Dan on May 01, 2012, 02:25:12 PM
It makes me laugh how people over rate Martinez so much, Bruce did a far better job at Wigan with the same budget. Not saying we should get Bruce at all, but swap the surnames around and he'd be rated a lot more seemingly. Amongst other things, Martinez is absolutely shocking in the transfer market.

I can't see Curbishley coming to us either, he strikes me as a manager who likes full control. Wasn't one of the reasons he left West Ham about him not having full control over player transfers? I seriously doubt he'd work with a director of football.

As it is I doubt we're in much rush. Unlike past appointments there's no real rush this time, I imagine if we do want Hughton we'll happily wait and see what happens in the play offs.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: DudleyBaggieFan on May 01, 2012, 02:26:16 PM
Like the above post, most managers on the above list are a step backwards IMO, Other than the likes of Hughton, Laudrup and AVB. We need to push the boat out and offer higher managerial wages for a higher quality manager. Although il be very happy with Hughton.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: VANDERLEI on May 01, 2012, 02:31:04 PM

Just my humble thats all

I know mate, I'm not having a go. It's just when I look at Curbishley's record, it's pretty flawless and just don't understand why anybody wouldn't want him here.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: BlackCountryVilla on May 01, 2012, 02:47:59 PM
McLeish, you know it makes sense. We love him down the Villa and would be sad to see him go but if the biggest and bestest team in the Midlands ever came calling who are we to stand in his way?
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: HampshireBaggie on May 01, 2012, 02:48:39 PM
McLeish, you know it makes sense. We love him down the Villa and would be sad to see him go but if the biggest and bestest team in the Midlands ever came calling who are we to stand in his way?

Your manager is not good enough for us.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Dudleylad on May 01, 2012, 02:51:26 PM
His job is yet to be fulfilled at Vile Park
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: DudleyBaggieFan on May 01, 2012, 02:52:39 PM
Your manager is not good enough for us.

I think you mean were too good for him!
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Sealandair on May 01, 2012, 02:53:25 PM
seriously, why doesnt the Boy Wonder Ashworth have a try seeing as he can do no wrong? anybody can sit watching videos all day and deciding which players are better than others.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Dudleylad on May 01, 2012, 02:54:24 PM
seriously, why doesnt the Boy Wonder Ashworth have a try seeing as he can do no wrong? anybody can sit watching videos all day and deciding which players are better than others.

So your saying Ashworths position isnt needed at this club?
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Mister AT on May 01, 2012, 02:56:17 PM
Think some people need to remember the people at Newcastle going crazy when Pardew was appointed, now hes like a god up there with the season theyve had.

Lets not just dismiss the more experienced people like Curbs etc.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Sealandair on May 01, 2012, 02:57:48 PM
So your saying Ashworths position isnt needed at this club?

All he does is watch videos and compile lists, like some sort of secretary. Anybody with an ounce of football knowledge could do his job. His role is seriously over-stated.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Dudleylad on May 01, 2012, 03:01:01 PM
What a load of rubbish.

Hes set up a successful acadamey, negiotates player contracts aswell as scouring the world for playing talent.

I would suggest your knowledge of football to be not even an ounce to suggest Ashworths sporting director role is over stated especially as it seems many of the big clubs are now looking at him.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: WBArgo on May 01, 2012, 03:01:06 PM
All he does is watch videos and compile lists, like some sort of secretary. Anybody with an ounce of football knowledge could do his job. His role is seriously over-stated.
LOL - Ashworth is a genius to be honest. His scouting is second to-none and has been top-notch down the years. Don't forget other un-seen gems who we failed to get down to money such as Tiote and Dembele. His job is much harder than it sounds...see Comolli at Liverpool - a top club.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: JDWest_Brom on May 01, 2012, 03:01:27 PM
It seems to be a three horse racing according to Transfer Central on Twitter between Alan Curbshley, Steve Bruce and Chris Hughton.

Fourth Official on Twitter say Chris Hughton won't be going to WBA.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: HampshireBaggie on May 01, 2012, 03:02:34 PM
I think you mean were too good for him!

Same thing isn't it?
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: up_the_baggies on May 01, 2012, 03:05:18 PM
are you a robot? you seriously cant be human, your posts are 99% uneeded and pathetic IMO, just my opinion though, your name says it all 'sealandair' may you be a villa van?

He's the .com wind up merchant.

Entitled to his own opinion of course, but most of his posts IMO are just looking for a reaction.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: DudleyBaggieFan on May 01, 2012, 03:06:27 PM
He's the .com wind up merchant.

Entitled to his own opinion of course, but most of his posts IMO are just looking for a reaction.

glad i wasnt the only one thinking this then. everyone is entitled to their own opinion, so therefore, in my opinion, his opinion is wrong! :)
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: MulumbuPower! on May 01, 2012, 03:12:22 PM
Hodgson's just been confirmed as England Manager by the FA according to BBC News.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: wbarenno on May 01, 2012, 03:13:30 PM
I hope to god the rumours about appleton arent true!

Also somebody mentioned avb :-) got your head in the clouds mate, porto - chelsea - west brom dosent really add up does it.

Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: WBAGinge on May 01, 2012, 03:22:29 PM
I hope to god the rumours about appleton arent true!

Also somebody mentioned avb :-) got your head in the clouds mate, porto - chelsea - west brom dosent really add up does it.


Roy Hodgson - Inter Milan - Liverpool - West Brom: I think that happened ;)
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Standaman on May 01, 2012, 03:24:18 PM
It seems to be a three horse racing according to Transfer Central on Twitter between Alan Curbshley, Steve Bruce and Chris Hughton.

Fourth Official on Twitter say Chris Hughton won't be going to WBA.

They are clueless the lot of them. Kept a log of which players we were linked with last summer by these sites and trust me it was bilge for the most part no reason to expect any different with regard to the appointment of a new Head Coach.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: wbarenno on May 01, 2012, 03:29:28 PM

Roy Hodgson - Inter Milan - Liverpool - West Brom: I think that happened ;)

To be fair youve got me there :D

Still no chance of avb coming to us though!
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: WBAGinge on May 01, 2012, 03:32:29 PM
To be fair youve got me there :D

Still no chance of avb coming to us though!


Your probably right, i wouldn't be holding my breath for it.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Signor_Maresca on May 01, 2012, 03:32:43 PM
Fourth Official on Twitter say Chris Hughton won't be going to WBA.

Take what he says with a pinch of salt, he bleats on about the ones he got right but he gets so much wrong it's untrue (he often deletes the ones that don't come off).
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Greenock Baggie on May 01, 2012, 03:36:46 PM
Just wait until its announced by the club, no point speculating as ( almost ) no - one knows who our next manager will be. Specualting only causes arguements on here as one mans Mourinho is another mans Warnock.

I'm just going to sit tight and wait. Nothing will be announced until after Hodgson leaves in 2 weeks time anyway and 2 weeks of speculation will have some on here in an early grave with a heart-attack :o ;D
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: up_the_baggies on May 01, 2012, 03:39:01 PM
I hate waiting to see an appointment at the best of times, we'll have to be waiting till Blues fate is sealed for sure..
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: albiontilidie on May 01, 2012, 03:40:29 PM
Give us a good betting opportunity :D
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: dangerman on May 01, 2012, 03:41:18 PM
I hate waiting to see an appointment at the best of times, we'll have to be waiting till Blues fate is sealed for sure..

We have to wait until the end of the season anyway with Hodgson not leaving until then. By which time Blues could be out of the play offs. Hopefully!  ;)
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: up_the_baggies on May 01, 2012, 03:42:12 PM
We have to wait until the end of the season anyway with Hodgson not leaving until then. By which time Blues could be out of the play offs. Hopefully!  ;)

Very true, come on Blackpool!

I wonder how the players will play for the next two games, see Roy off well with good performances, or slack?
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: AlbionBest on May 01, 2012, 03:50:47 PM
Very true, come on Blackpool!

I wonder how the players will play for the next two games, see Roy off well with good performances, or slack?

A couple need to play their way onto Engerland contention !   ;)
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: reynirver on May 01, 2012, 04:51:57 PM
We can't replace Hodgson with a manager on his level, because they are all unrealistic targets, we just got lucky when we got Hodgson.. Who ever comes in will be considerd as a "step back" but it certainly doesn't mean that he isn't capable of doing a good job.

I have no idea who our man is, I have no problem with inexperienced man, I think we are still the club that managers gains premier league experience from and develop to be either Mowbray og Matteo..  ;D

But its Albion so no one knows what will happen..  ;D
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: leeiswba on May 01, 2012, 04:52:50 PM
AVB is way way out of our league, Im suprised people are being serious considering him, majorly unrealistic.

He was probably on over 100k a week at Chelsea what would we be offering our manager? 25k-30k absolute no chance, he will be managing in the Champions League again next season probably.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Dexy on May 01, 2012, 04:53:31 PM
AVB is way way out of our league, Im suprised people are being serious considering him, majorly unrealistic.

He was probably on over 100k a week at Chelsea what would we be offering our manager? 25k-30k absolute no chance, he will be managing in the Champions League again next season probably.
Managers are unlikely to get that sort of money a week mate.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: leeiswba on May 01, 2012, 04:56:26 PM
Managers are unlikely to get that sort of money a week mate.

I still think he would have to take at least a 60% wage cut from what he was getting at Chelsea to what he would get here. Just think he is way out of our league
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Tipton Baggie on May 01, 2012, 04:57:02 PM
I'm sure DA and JP would of had there list together well before we knew anything, thats what we're good at.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: DevonBaggie on May 01, 2012, 05:01:42 PM
Claudio Ranieri? probably won't happen but has stated he wants a job in the premier league  ::)
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Critical Baggie on May 01, 2012, 05:10:53 PM
I still think he would have to take at least a 60% wage cut from what he was getting at Chelsea to what he would get here. Just think he is way out of our league

Never mind his wage, I could never see him working within the budget limitations we provide to buy players. Would be great to have him but there's jut too many things to put him off.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: LegendOfAstle on May 01, 2012, 05:16:03 PM
I just see on the betting odds list, Lee Clark and Dave Jones. Wouldn't be bad options either but not enough experience for me.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: leeiswba on May 01, 2012, 05:17:43 PM
Never mind his wage, I could never see him working within the budget limitations we provide to buy players. Would be great to have him but there's jut too many things to put him off.

Exactly, he would want everything this club wouldnt offer. Not a chance will he even be considered
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: alex1 on May 01, 2012, 05:22:09 PM
Most of the names at the start of the thread would move us back into rlegation strugglers again.

My top 3 , though all with strings attached.
1. Bredan Rogers - has excellent footballing style, but just signed a new contract at Swansea 
2. Chris Hughton- dependant on Blues
3. Roberto di Matteo - dependant on whetehr Chelsea appoint new manager
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Bilston Dan on May 01, 2012, 05:26:22 PM
Most of the names at the start of the thread would move us back into rlegation strugglers again.

My top 3 , though all with strings attached.
1. Bredan Rogers - has excellent footballing style, but just signed a new contract at Swansea 
2. Chris Hughton- dependant on Blues
3. Roberto di Matteo - dependant on whetehr Chelsea appoint new manager

I'd personally welcome back Robbie back to be honest, but it'll be a crime if he doesn't get the Chelsea job, but I can see Abramovich doing that though, just to splash his cash. Brendan Rodgers is a superb manager to be honest.

I'd be happy if we were to lure someone like Rodgers or Paul Lambert. I guess we need someone who's proven they can work on a small budget, which to be honest Paul Lambert has done amazing with Norwich to be honest. I think Malky Mackay would be a decent shout from Cardiff as well. Maybe we want someone more experienced at Prem level.

Curbishley? It seems as if it's a split opinion over him.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Hong Kong Phooey on May 01, 2012, 05:38:57 PM
Birmingham manager Chris Hughton has played down reports naming him as the leading candidate to succeed Roy Hodgson at West Brom.

Hodgson, 64, was confirmed as the new England manager on Tuesday.

However, Hughton insisted he was solely focused on trying to lead Birmingham back to the Premier League via the Championship play-offs.

"Anything else is completely out of my control and, at the moment, doesn't interest me," the 53-year-old said.

"I can only deal with anything that is fact and what is fact is that we've got a massively important game in a few days against a very, very good Blackpool team."


Interesting comment - Come on BLACKPOOL!
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Tipton Baggie on May 01, 2012, 05:42:28 PM
Birmingham manager Chris Hughton has played down reports naming him as the leading candidate to succeed Roy Hodgson at West Brom.

Hodgson, 64, was confirmed as the new England manager on Tuesday.

However, Hughton insisted he was solely focused on trying to lead Birmingham back to the Premier League via the Championship play-offs.

"Anything else is completely out of my control and, at the moment, doesn't interest me," the 53-year-old said.

"I can only deal with anything that is fact and what is fact is that we've got a massively important game in a few days against a very, very good Blackpool team."


Interesting comment - Come on BLACKPOOL!
Hes going to say that with the play-offs coming up
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Sealandair on May 01, 2012, 05:51:22 PM
He's the .com wind up merchant.

Entitled to his own opinion of course, but most of his posts IMO are just looking for a reaction.

Baggies4eva if your such an expert on the Albion you would know why 'sealandair' is relevant to the club.

I am not a wind up merchant, i deal only in Facts ,.

WHO told you this board Roy would be our manager a week before his appointment ?

WHO told you this board he would be gone before the end of this season to take the England job ?

WHO told this board RDM was for the high jump on the saturday night before he got the bullet?

WHO told you all Shane Long was signing ?

Sealandair Thats who.

You lot keephanging on to 'lepko's' every word.. he would saw his right arm off to have my inside knowledge/access to the club.

that is all
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Tom_WBA_93 on May 01, 2012, 05:54:08 PM
Baggies4eva if your such an expert on the Albion you would know why 'sealandair' is relevant to the club.

I am not a wind up merchant, i deal only in Facts ,.

WHO told you this board Roy would be our manager a week before his appointment ?

WHO told you this board he would be gone before the end of this season to take the England job ?

WHO told this board RDM was for the high jump on the saturday night before he got the bullet?

WHO told you all Shane Long was signing ?

Sealandair Thats who.

You lot keephanging on to 'lepko's' every word.. he would saw his right arm off to have my inside knowledge/access to the club.

that is all

Well here's someone full of themself..
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Hong Kong Phooey on May 01, 2012, 05:56:37 PM
Hes going to say that with the play-offs coming up

True, but they usually roll out the old "I am manager of X and that is all I am focusing on"

What he actually said sounds as though he could be tempted by the Pride of the West Midlands  :-\
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: AlbionBest on May 01, 2012, 06:01:41 PM
True, but they usually roll out the old "I am manager of X and that is all I am focusing on"

What he actually said sounds as though he could be tempted by the Pride of the West Midlands  :-\

Why wouldn't he be compared to the uncertainty and chaos at St Andrews - even if they do get up their financial woes will drawf an increased Prem income.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: kie the baggie on May 01, 2012, 06:05:56 PM
 what would people think of stuart pearce?
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: WorcsWBA on May 01, 2012, 06:08:23 PM
I'm not confident about it, but let's hope that there's no wrangle regarding the backroom staff as far as the next would-be incumbent is concerned. The head coach needs to choose his assistants - there shouldn't be sentiment about such things in football, it's what happens pretty much everywhere else when there's a managerial change.

If we lost out on the best person for the job because we wanted to dictate who his assistants were to him, I for one would be very unhappy about it.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: wba1993dave on May 01, 2012, 06:09:48 PM
what would people think of stuart pearce?

If some fans hated the style of Football that roy put out , then pearce's is 50 times worse. Once season when he was Man City boss they only scored 10 goals at home all season long :o 
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: garry on May 01, 2012, 06:11:48 PM
I don't know who it will be, but I know who it won't be.
It won't be any manager currently in a job, because there is no way on earth that JP will pay compensation.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: A5HB on May 01, 2012, 06:14:26 PM
I don't know who it will be, but I know who it won't be.
It won't be any manager currently in a job, because there is no way on earth that JP will pay compensation.
Paid compensation for Di Matteo and Mowbray.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: kie the baggie on May 01, 2012, 06:39:45 PM
If some fans hated the style of Football that roy put out , then pearce's is 50 times worse. Once season when he was Man City boss they only scored 10 goals at home all season long :o

wohhh didnt realise that. just saw his name on the odds at 15-1 i think it was. i would love hughton to be our next manager. but cant beleive curbishley is favorite for the job. imo i think our appointment all depends on whether blues come up or not.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Moggas barmy army on May 01, 2012, 06:40:30 PM
Isnt he out of contract at the end of the season (Hughton) if they dont go up we could really raid blues. Come on Blackpool
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: kris_boing on May 01, 2012, 06:42:17 PM
Isnt he out of contract at the end of the season (Hughton) if they dont go up we could really raid blues. Come on Blackpool

He's on a one year rolling contract which means hes contracted for another year from today, tomorrow, next week etc,.

We'll need to pay off that year.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: RowleyBaggie2 on May 01, 2012, 06:43:22 PM
I think Steve McClaren would be a perfect fit for us.

A very good coach, did a great job with Boro and was awesome at Twente. He knows our type of set up and will be desperate to rebuild his career in England.

England wise he was subject to the same hatchet job from the press that got the mouth breathers on his back that Hodgson will get for not being flash harry.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: kie the baggie on May 01, 2012, 06:50:11 PM
I think Steve McClaren would be a perfect fit for us.

A very good coach, did a great job with Boro and was awesome at Twente. He knows our type of set up and will be desperate to rebuild his career in England.

England wise he was subject to the same hatchet job from the press that got the mouth breathers on his back that Hodgson will get for not being flash harry.

Im not too sure about MClaren he was awful at Forest with the same squad that pushed for promotion he would of proberbly got them relegated. But to be fair to the bloke he did do a cracking job at boro if i remember rightly, and at the time they were a mid table premier league club. also got to the europa league final. i would love us to have a major cup run next year. Could Mclaren be the man??
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Sealandair on May 01, 2012, 06:50:46 PM
I think Steve McClaren would be a perfect fit for us.

A very good coach, did a great job with Boro and was awesome at Twente. He knows our type of set up and will be desperate to rebuild his career in England.

England wise he was subject to the same hatchet job from the press that got the mouth breathers on his back that Hodgson will get for not being flash harry.

And run off from Nottingham Forest because they wouldnt let him sign some kid from Belgium so I doubt him and teflon Dan will be compatible?
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: RowleyBaggie2 on May 01, 2012, 06:52:51 PM
I don't think it was quite that simple.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Moggas barmy army on May 01, 2012, 06:53:36 PM

He's on a one year rolling contract which means hes contracted for another year from today, tomorrow, next week etc,.

We'll need to pay off that year.

Small compensation then. If Blues don't go up it has to be Hughton. The wolly i wouldn't want did a shocking job with forest.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: telford baggie on May 01, 2012, 06:58:03 PM
steve mclaren, derek mcinnes,micheal appelton,steve bruce all a very big NO.people like martinez and rodgers wouldnt come to us but we do need a coach with experience as hodgson proved otherwise our future will be a yoyo again ray wilkins maybe? jp has a massive decision ahead of him which im dreading tbh but hopefully he will come good again time will tell
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: VANDERLEI on May 01, 2012, 06:58:21 PM
Wouldn't want McClaren. I think he is damaged goods as far as managing in this country is concerned. He's a good manager but since his England disaster, will always be looked at as a joke by the media and majority of the public. Not to mention I think he may have seriously cracked up with his adopted dutch accent!!
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: WBAGinge on May 01, 2012, 07:01:18 PM
Small compensation then. If Blues don't go up it has to be Hughton. The wolly i wouldn't want did a shocking job with forest.


Shocking job with Forest, yet Hodgson wasn't setting the world alight with Liverpool before we got him, look at what he's done with us and for himself!
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: timdon on May 01, 2012, 07:10:14 PM
steve mclaren, derek mcinnes,micheal appelton,steve bruce all a very big NO.
I dont think he will get the job, but I dont understand people writing off McInnes. He established St Johnstone in the Scottish Prem when they were very poor before he came (bit of a yoyo club) and then worked a near miracle with Bristol City, who were nailed on for relegation before he came. He looks pretty decent to me. I dont suppose he will be in the frame though because he will be perceived as too inexperienced, though he has had a good few years of relative success
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: JBullyWBA on May 01, 2012, 07:34:36 PM

Shocking job with Forest, yet Hodgson wasn't setting the world alight with Liverpool before we got him, look at what he's done with us and for himself!

There's quite a difference between Forest and Liverpool. Mclaren seems like he's too much of a gamble.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: boinging_along on May 01, 2012, 07:43:45 PM
I'd take Martinez, Hughton, Poyet, Ole, someone like that rather than Bruce, Curbishley etc.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: kris_boing on May 01, 2012, 07:53:36 PM
I think Steve McClaren would be a perfect fit for us.

A very good coach, did a great job with Boro and was awesome at Twente. He knows our type of set up and will be desperate to rebuild his career in England.

England wise he was subject to the same hatchet job from the press that got the mouth breathers on his back that Hodgson will get for not being flash harry.

Agreed.  He would be on my list of candidates too.  We need a 'Head Coach' and he is meant to be an outstanding coach.
 
I would be happy if McLaren got the job plus I would look forward to hearing his Black Country accent.   ;D
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: baggieben87 on May 01, 2012, 08:01:56 PM
I think 2 of the most likely (and most worrying) have been missed off the list in Appleton and McInnes. Furthermore I think half of that list is completely unrealistic.

In fact I think it is more likely to be a manager from the Championship, lower leagues or Scotland.

The next managerial appointment could make or break our club. For me we have to look for Premier league experience, but I feel it will be another Mowbray/RDM calibre appointment.

Do you think we might go for Gus Poyet, we went for Di Mateo and was successfull for the Championship Campaign we had. I hope its a longterm decision as well, shame about Roy though!
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: alexjennings_uk on May 01, 2012, 08:02:15 PM
Pep Guardiola 100/1 with Stan James anyone going to open their wallets
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: rubyruby on May 01, 2012, 08:04:43 PM
I think Steve McClaren would be a perfect fit for us.

A very good coach, did a great job with Boro and was awesome at Twente. He knows our type of set up and will be desperate to rebuild his career in England.

England wise he was subject to the same hatchet job from the press that got the mouth breathers on his back that Hodgson will get for not being flash harry.

The immediate knee jerk reaction is no. But that might be an inspired suggestion. If one puts all the rubbish on one side you could see how he might bring to the table the sort experience that we need. If I wrote my own list he wouldnt be first choice but i certainly woudnt rule him out.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Wbamitch on May 01, 2012, 08:13:47 PM
Have also agreed with the majority of votes regarding the top 2. Also my number one choice would be the leading manager in Chris Hughton.

I felt he was very harshly sacked at Newcastle and if i recall they was not doing so bad. Excluding him i did struggle to see one that i would feel confident about keeping us up at least.

My second choice was obviously Roberto Martinez who has experience in the premier league and although sometimes at a squeeze and maybe a bit fortunately he has been keeping Wigan up for a few years. He's renown for a free flowing style of football but as we know that is not always the key to stay in this league. As of late he does seemed to have resolved the defensive issues and Wigan look quite solid and i feel we have a better defence than them. I do see it very unlikely in us taking him from Wigan which is why i have voted him 2nd.

It seems the Birmingham Play off story will play a big part in our huge summer coming up. Potentially our first choice manager should they fail in that challenge and Hughton seeks premiership football, also the matter concerning Ben Foster's future.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: overseas baggie on May 01, 2012, 08:18:43 PM
McLaren is interesting. Clearly a good coach but was wrong for the England job. Forest ? Seems financial promises were broken.  Villa decided against him after fan backlash but he would have done a far better job than McLeish.

A far better option than Curbishley who has been out of management too long.

I'd include McLaren in my shortlist with Hughton and Martinez.

Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Hunnington Baggie on May 01, 2012, 08:22:11 PM
sorry, but not after Forest. I don't want the wally anywhere near here. he has only done well in the Dutch league (somehow) so they can keep him
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: segagod on May 01, 2012, 09:07:50 PM
Ian holloway for me. If not him then hughton or martinez.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: BB74 on May 01, 2012, 09:09:56 PM
I'd include McLaren in my shortlist with Hughton and Martinez.

In fairness he didn't do a bad job at Middlesbrough.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Sessegod on May 01, 2012, 09:10:32 PM
As long as the decision isnt too late for the manager to get the whole of pre season in.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: BB74 on May 01, 2012, 09:12:07 PM
Baggies4eva if your such an expert on the Albion you would know why 'sealandair' is relevant to the club.

I am not a wind up merchant, i deal only in Facts ,.

WHO told you this board Roy would be our manager a week before his appointment ?

WHO told you this board he would be gone before the end of this season to take the England job ?

WHO told this board RDM was for the high jump on the saturday night before he got the bullet?

WHO told you all Shane Long was signing ?

Sealandair Thats who.

You lot keephanging on to 'lepko's' every word.. he would saw his right arm off to have my inside knowledge/access to the club.

that is all

Sounds like a wrestlers speech that does!

Can you smell what Sealandair is cooking!
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: FallOutBoy on May 01, 2012, 09:25:21 PM
The only new, interesting name I've heard on the thread is Ray Wilkins, although I bet Sky are paying him more money than we would.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Baggie79 on May 01, 2012, 09:29:47 PM
Pep Guardiola 100/1 with Stan James anyone going to open their wallets

No  ;D
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Baggie79 on May 01, 2012, 09:44:59 PM
Ozzie would be fantastic, it would never never happen but as KK said "I would love it"
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: WorcsWBA on May 01, 2012, 10:13:52 PM
The only new, interesting name I've heard on the thread is Ray Wilkins, although I bet Sky are paying him more money than we would.

These days, I can't beyond Uncle Fester when I look at him, which would be a problem for me!  ;D
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: GrGr on May 01, 2012, 10:28:46 PM
There seems to be a generation shift atm when you look at the British coaches. On one hand you have the Hodgsons, Curbishleys, Moyes, Fergies, Bruces, Redknapps, Dalglieshs, McLeishs, Hughes, O'Neills etc. The interesting young up and coming ones are from overseas (RdM, Poyet, Martinez), or have experience from abroad like Lambert. Then we have Rodgers, Mackay, Adkins, Powell. But there doesn't seem to be much in between. Guess the old farts have been recycled for too long. I'd like to see someone with a modern take on football.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: letmereadposts on May 01, 2012, 10:33:50 PM
The only option which appeals to me is Martinez. I think he has enough PL experience, has kept a team up, plays attacking football and also fits the bill as a young up and coming manager. I think he could help us consolidate whilst simultaneously not bore us with rubbish football.

Whether he would join us is another thing, however. He turned down Villa because he recognised serious problems in a backwards club. It shows he's astute. I think if he is willing to listen to what we have to offer, Peace and Ashworth are capable of the big sell.

Other than Martinez no one else seems a realistic and promising appointment.

We can say what we like about Hodgson, but he's left some damn big shoes to fill here..
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: RowleyBaggie2 on May 01, 2012, 10:39:36 PM
I don't fancy Martinez, I've got used to having a good defence.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: letmereadposts on May 01, 2012, 10:44:30 PM
I don't fancy Martinez, I've got used to having a good defence.

It could work in our favour the way Roy inherited an attacking minded team. He shored up our defence and we killed off a lot of teams in good fashion at the back end of last season.

Obviously this is of little point from a long-term perspective, managers eventually make their own mark on a team.

I just feel their is more to come from the guy and our club would suit him well.

Martinez is my man.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: GrGr on May 01, 2012, 10:54:11 PM
I don't fancy Martinez, I've got used to having a good defence.

Lately Foster has been most of our defence  ;)
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: LegendOfAstle on May 01, 2012, 10:57:13 PM
Lately Foster has been most of our defence  ;)

yes your right, i nearly have a heart attack every time Olsson gets near the ball.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: wappingbaggie on May 02, 2012, 12:03:16 AM
i havnt read the whole thread so sorry if discussed already...why is Mcinnes not on voting list?
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: overseas baggie on May 02, 2012, 12:13:30 AM
I see Curbishley is around evens with most of the bookies tonight, with Hughton second favourite at around 7/1.

That rather suggests that Curbishley is well advanced and that JP and DA have been well prepared for this.  Evens is incredibly short odds - it would be most unlike the bookies to get it wrong to that extent.

 
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: tuamigos on May 02, 2012, 06:34:12 AM
I'd be surprised if Curbishley comes here, more likely to end up at veela I would have thought.
Its a difficult one to predict because the guy that comes in is walking into something unique really.
Managers only usually change hands at clubs after a bad set of results or to dig a team out of the mire, but the next manager is walking into a mid table team looking on the up, I think yet again we have to trust DA and JP on this one, it might be a household name that we get or it might be a rabbit out of the hat job.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Hunnington Baggie on May 02, 2012, 07:07:35 AM
Sounds like a wrestlers speech that does!

Can you smell what Sealandair is cooking!
He's the Ultimate Keyboard Warrior. He even has the ridiculous tangents of the ultimate warrior. probably does them while staring at a wall too  :D
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Semaj Riatsila on May 02, 2012, 07:12:39 AM
Baggies4eva if your such an expert on the Albion you would know why 'sealandair' is relevant to the club.

I am not a wind up merchant, i deal only in Facts ,.

WHO told you this board Roy would be our manager a week before his appointment ?

WHO told you this board he would be gone before the end of this season to take the England job ?

WHO told this board RDM was for the high jump on the saturday night before he got the bullet?

WHO told you all Shane Long was signing ?

Sealandair Thats who.

You lot keephanging on to 'lepko's' every word.. he would saw his right arm off to have my inside knowledge/access to the club.

that is all

If he is so in the know can he let me know for sure whom the next manager will be as I want to put a monkey down whilst the odds are good :)
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Albion79 on May 02, 2012, 10:25:57 AM
Just a thought on Curbishley and it could be adding 2 and 2 and getting 5 and it may of been mentioned elsewhere.

JP and Ashworth appear to have a shortlists they work off so we are prepared for when managers, coaches, players, tealadies, etc leave. Didnt Capello leave England just before or around the same time as Mad Mick at the Dingles?

I would imagine at the time Capello left that Albion would of had some incline that Royston would be going to England or a very strong candidate, i wonder if any contact was put to Curbishley around then about sounding him out about the Albion job.

The reason i say that is Curbishley was by all accounts offered the Wolves job 3 times and turned it down, thats a lot of times to be offered one job and keep rejecting and although some may hate to admit it the Wolves is an attractive job, they still at that stage had a decent chance of staying up, they have the ground, fanbase, etc so its not like turning down Stourbridge Town.

I just wondered if he turned down the Dingles knowing full well that the Albion job was coming up in the summer? I have no ITK information but just wondered as he does seem to be high up the next manager on a lot of bookies list.

Then again JP and Ashworth probably have Guardiola at the Moat House for a Cuppa as we speak!
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Greenock Baggie on May 02, 2012, 10:32:33 AM
Just a thought on Curbishley and it could be adding 2 and 2 and getting 5 and it may of been mentioned elsewhere.

JP and Ashworth appear to have a shortlists they work off so we are prepared for when managers, coaches, players, tealadies, etc leave. Didnt Capello leave England just before or around the same time as Mad Mick at the Dingles?

I would imagine at the time Capello left that Albion would of had some incline that Royston would be going to England or a very strong candidate, i wonder if any contact was put to Curbishley around then about sounding him out about the Albion job.

The reason i say that is Curbishley was by all accounts offered the Wolves job 3 times and turned it down, thats a lot of times to be offered one job and keep rejecting and although some may hate to admit it the Wolves is an attractive job, they still at that stage had a decent chance of staying up, they have the ground, fanbase, etc so its not like turning down Stourbridge Town.

I just wondered if he turned down the Dingles knowing full well that the Albion job was coming up in the summer? I have no ITK information but just wondered as he does seem to be high up the next manager on a lot of bookies list.

Then again JP and Ashworth probably have Guardiola at the Moat House for a Cuppa as we speak!
More than likely they have him in The Vine for a Tikka and a Naan  :D
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Ogwani on May 02, 2012, 10:33:44 AM
McLaren is interesting. Clearly a good coach but was wrong for the England job. Forest ? Seems financial promises were broken.  Villa decided against him after fan backlash but he would have done a far better job than McLeish.

A far better option than Curbishley who has been out of management too long.

I'd include McLaren in my shortlist with Hughton and Martinez.

I would not want McClaren purely because with Nottingham Forest's squad they should no way of been near the relegation zone. He did something seriously wrong there.

Isn't Appleton one of the front-runners (:'()?  Where is he on the poll? Seen as this is a "who will be" rather than "who do you want" I voted Hughton and Curbishley, I think they are the two most likely. I would not mind a few of the managers on the list, like Martinez, but think they would not come, realistically.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Standaman on May 02, 2012, 10:45:11 AM
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Ogwani on May 02, 2012, 10:47:09 AM
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: dway on May 02, 2012, 10:57:33 AM
why isnt Derek Mcinnes on the list?
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: BB74 on May 02, 2012, 11:04:19 AM
why isnt Derek Mcinnes on the list?

Why isn't Osavaldo Ardilles on the list?  ???
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: WBAinDEVON on May 02, 2012, 11:08:59 AM
We all have differing views as to who we want to be our new manager

Its a definate no no from me with McLaren and Bruce
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: mank baggie on May 02, 2012, 11:37:35 AM
Why isn't Osavaldo Ardilles on the list?  ???
spurs is his first love mate
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: WBAinDEVON on May 02, 2012, 11:39:36 AM
I wonder if Mick is applying?
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: dangerman on May 02, 2012, 11:57:16 AM
I wonder if Mick is applying?

I'd take him on. he could do the interviews on Albion player/world thingy.

He'd be more entertaining than the guy who is on there at the minute.  :o
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: mulliganstired on May 02, 2012, 12:04:44 PM
Here's a thought; when we were relegated under Robson, or even Mowbray, if you'd had a crystal ball and were told just a few years later we'd be humming and ha-ing about whether Alan Curbishley was really the sort of manager we wanted, I think you'd have been quite impressed!!
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: wbarenno on May 02, 2012, 12:09:58 PM
Curbishley was odds on for the dingles so i wouldnt really read too much into the betting!
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: smethwickw on May 02, 2012, 12:21:15 PM
The more I think about it the more I am swaying towards Curbishley. We have tried inexperience and it got us nowhere. Roy was the first man with the experience and know how to come in and turn things around. I think Curbs would be a very similar appointment. His record is decent at Prem level. I wouldn't be too disappointed with Hughton but is he really any better than RDM? Similar experience and achievements really.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: A5HB on May 02, 2012, 12:32:29 PM
Just heard Sven on talksport talking about the England job and he said he would like to get back into work. Not saying I would want him, my first choice is Hughton, but would certainly be an interesting option. He had a good record with England and didn't do that bad at City and only left because of problems with the owners. Also said he's good friend with Hodgson so would be able to find out a lot about the club and would work with a Sporting Director.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Peter11 on May 02, 2012, 12:36:48 PM
I have been keeping an eye on the odds over the last few days, and out of nowhere Jose Camacho (ex real madrid, spain, benfica and current china boss) has shot into 3rd favorite, but the only site offering odds on him is bodog, our kit sponsor - do they have inside info?
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: saml30 on May 02, 2012, 12:40:25 PM
one risky but an exciting appointment would be Lee Clark, went so many games unbeaten and was very unfortunate to get the sack, lack of prem experience would worry me though


would love martinez but if he didnt go to villa why would he come to us, only way i can see this happening is with wigan going down

remember the 'head coach' role is something that will put a lot of the experienced managers off
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: JDWest_Brom on May 02, 2012, 12:41:43 PM
Camacho has been there or thereabouts from the start with only Bodog offering odds like you say. But his odds have shortened from 10/1 down to 4/1. He was 5th or 6th favourite on Bodog up to 3rd now.
 
Curbishley's odds have drifted out a bit today from even money out to 3/1. Chris Hughton's odds have shortend from about 6/1 down to 4/1.

So it looks like overnight money has gone on Hughton and Camacho (but just on Bodog)..
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: WBAinDEVON on May 02, 2012, 12:54:24 PM
I have changed my mind. I would like to see Glenn Hoddle and Ray Wilkins at the Albion and by god would i be excited with that combination
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: LegendOfAstle on May 02, 2012, 12:56:30 PM
I have changed my mind. I would like to see Glenn Hoddle and Ray Wilkins at the Albion

Oh no you cant say that!! you troll!!!   :P

Good to see someone else talking sense.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: kris_boing on May 02, 2012, 01:00:22 PM
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: westbrom4ever on May 02, 2012, 01:01:23 PM
McCarthy's odds have dropped to 20/1.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Dan on May 02, 2012, 01:02:08 PM
Glenn Hoddle? Not only has he been out of professional management for a good few years now, he was shocking for wolves and left them near ruin (a positive but not one we should employ him for) and wasn't much good for Spurs before that either.

There's serious questions, and has always been, about his man management skills.

Oh no you cant say that!! you troll!!!  :p

Good to see someone else talking sense.

You've recommended Hoddle, Jones (notably two ex-wolves managers) Jewell (manager of the worst premier league side ever), Keegan, Warnock (who no albion fan would seriously recommend), Billy Davies (also manager of worst premier league side ever, and unpopular with most albion fans), phil brown, and Strachan.

If you'd just recommended one or two questionable managers then fair enough, but its like a who's who of bad managers.

Clearly a Wolves fans on the wind up. As shown kind of by the fact you registered when it became clear Hodgson was leaving.

Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: LegendOfAstle on May 02, 2012, 01:09:13 PM
Well Dan. I bet you any money the people i have mentioned are much more likely than some of the names said on this thread. Alot of managers are not popular choices but they are still the RIGHT choices.

What do you think the newcastle fans would of thought at the possibility of pardew managing them before he was appointed? They would of laughed in the faces of people suggesting it, and yes called them WUM or something. Now look at him, hes done a fantastic job and is loved by the fans, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesnt but whoever it is we should get behind the manager.

And don't insult me please by even thinking i am a wolves fan - that's more laughable than any of the names you dont like who i said.

One person who hasn't yet been thought of and who is in a similar mold to Roy is George Graham. He's got tons of experience and would set the team up similar to Roy. Thoughts?

Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: FallOutBoy on May 02, 2012, 01:12:54 PM
And don't insult me please by even thinking i am a wolves fan - that's more laughable than any of the names you dont like who i said.

One person who hasn't yet been thought of and who is in a similar mold to Roy is George Graham. He's got tons of experience and would set the team up similar to Roy. Thoughts?

Even my mate who is a Wolves fan reckons you're a Wolf on a wind-up.

It would be ironic if right, because with Moxey's football knowledge, some of the people you suggest are more likely to be managing the Dingles than us next season.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: BB74 on May 02, 2012, 01:14:38 PM
Well Dan. I bet you any money the people i have mentioned are much more likely than some of the names said on this thread. Alot of managers are not popular choices but they are still the RIGHT choices.

What do you think the newcastle fans would of thought at the possibility of pardew managing them before he was appointed? They would of laughed in the faces of people suggesting it, and yes called them WUM or something. Now look at him, hes done a fantastic job and is loved by the fans, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesnt but whoever it is we should get behind the manager.

And don't insult me please by even thinking i am a wolves fan - that's more laughable than any of the names you dont like who i said.

One person who hasn't yet been thought of and who is in a similar mold to Roy is George Graham. He's got tons of experience and would set the team up similar to Roy. Thoughts?

LOL George Graham and the picture of Roy as an owl - That is the icing on the cake! Definetly a wind up merchant  ;D Carry on though, you are amusing.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: dangerman on May 02, 2012, 01:14:55 PM
Avram Grant?  :o
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Signor_Maresca on May 02, 2012, 01:19:16 PM
one risky but an exciting appointment would be Lee Clark, went so many games unbeaten and was very unfortunate to get the sack, lack of prem experience would worry me

I can't see it, from what I've heard he is very much from the Gary Megson school of management. Can't see him working within our structure nor our players being happy with some of his 'ways'.  His record is good but things that happened behind closed doors have tarnished his reputation within some quarters of the game and is probably the reason why no club has really shown a serious interest in him as yet.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Dan on May 02, 2012, 01:19:53 PM
There is a difference between naming a few bizarre candidates, and having every single one you've named been extremely bizarre, and often extremely unpopular with Albion fans. That and other posts like having a heart attack when Olsson gets near the ball, that'd be Olsson who is clearly one of our best players.

The George Graham suggestion surely just confirms the wind up. A 67 year old who's last job was 11 years ago. I'm just waiting for you to recommend Terry Connor.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: WBAinDEVON on May 02, 2012, 01:21:12 PM
Lee Clark would be too much of a risk. Wolves can have him

We need experienced not rookies
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: LegendOfAstle on May 02, 2012, 01:26:28 PM
wbaindevon, i noticed your signature, you was born on oak road, i live near by, maybe we should hook up some time before a match.

Dan, they may be unpopular on paper, but in reality they could work and well within our range. As i said before, you think pardew was popular with newcastle fans before his appointment? Or even haughton before him? Or Moyes when he was at preston before his appointment at everton? Or Atkins as southampton?

These are just some examples of people who was extremely unpopular choices before managing there teams and doing a great job, and just because i am new on here and think out of the box, i am a WUM or even worse a wolves fan? lol please...

"u" counts as text speak. Please use the correct term which is "you"
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: ComebackStrodds on May 02, 2012, 01:27:20 PM
Lets give Alan Buckley another chance? He's still alive, I think.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: WBAinDEVON on May 02, 2012, 01:29:09 PM
wbaindevon, i noticed your signature, you live near oak road, i live near by, maybe we should hook up some time before a match.

Dan, they may be unpopular on paper, but in reality they could work and well within our range. As i said before, u think pardew was popular with newcastle fans before his appointment? Or even haughton before him? Or Moyes when he was at preston before his appointment at everton? Or Atkins as southampton?

These are just some examples of people who was extremely unpopular choices before managing there teams and doing a great job, and just because i am new on here and think out of the box, i am a WUM or even worse a wolves fan? lol please...


I was born and bred in Oak Road.I live in a better climate now, its called Exmouth 8)
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: OldburyWBA on May 02, 2012, 01:57:49 PM
Can we cut the petty squabbling out then, you're supposed to be grown men. How about acting like it instead of having another topic descend into a school pay-ground.

There are a few posters we are keeping an eye on so if anyone is on the wind-up it would be an idea to stop
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: BB74 on May 02, 2012, 02:04:59 PM
Can we cut the petty squabbling out then, you're supposed to be grown men. How about acting like it instead of having another topic descend into a school pay-ground.

There are a few posters we are keeping an eye on so if anyone is on the wind-up it would be an idea to stop

Ark at the MI6 here  ;D It's amusing to an certain extent but some people struggle with the banter.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: KingKoren on May 02, 2012, 02:06:37 PM
I'm not sure whether this has already been mentioned but apparently one of the reasons Hodgson was preferred to Hughton was because Hughton wanted to bring in his own back room staff whereas Roy was content to work with our existing set-up. I'm not certain this story has any foundation to it; although I do remember it being mentioned at the time, but if was true, would that affect our next appointment? Surely if this was the case wouldn't Hughton still want to bring his own staff in this time around? (assuming he is in contention.) As a club will we allow the next manager to replace our current coaches? Is it a sticking point?
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: dangerman on May 02, 2012, 02:07:54 PM
I'm not sure whether this has already been mentioned but apparently one of the reasons Hodgson was preferred to Hughton was because Hughton wanted to bring in his own back room staff whereas Roy was content to work with our existing set-up. I'm not certain this story has any foundation to it; although I do remember it being mentioned at the time, but if was true, would that affect our next appointment? Surely if this was the case wouldn't Hughton still want to bring his own staff in this time around? (assuming he is in contention.) As a club will we allow the next manager to replace our current coaches? Is it a sticking point?

I remember that. But at that time we had appleton.

I don't think that would apply know, but I could be wrong?
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: OldburyWBA on May 02, 2012, 02:07:58 PM
Ark at the MI6 here  ;D It's amusing to an certain extent but some people struggle with the banter.

 :D I'd do well there mate, always suss out the dodgy ones, there's some on here we know are banned, they think we don't know but we do.

Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: tuamigos on May 02, 2012, 02:08:46 PM
Is a young up and coming manager what we need? Its took an old head to steady the ship after the whipper snappers have had a go.
I think we should be looking at a more established manager at this level.
Half of me says give it to a Chris Houton type and half says give it to a Curbishley type, whichever way we go its got the tongues wagging aye it?  :P
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Dexy on May 02, 2012, 02:09:45 PM
Early days but these would be my top three so far

1.Hughton-Worked wonders at Blues with everybodys cast offs (with great respect) and has built a solid side.
Not only that he built a decent Newcastle side with some difficult characters in it.Down side is im not sure he alone could attract bigger name players.

2.Curbishley-Great success at Charlton but more to the point is from the Roy style of play so we wouldn't have to change things 100%.Down side is he has been gone a long time from the game.

3.Laudrup-Young exciting coach who likes to play with style,could attract bigger names.I'm not sure if we would gamble on a newbie to the Premier with so much at stake.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: KingKoren on May 02, 2012, 02:25:52 PM
I remember that. But at that time we had appleton.

I don't think that would apply know, but I could be wrong?

That's true he was valued highly by the club. I'm not sure the club would have any ambitions to replace our other coaches though.

Just to highlight an example; I believe Curbishley wanted to bring in his own staff in at Wolves, however Wolves wanted to keep their current staff (I have no idea why  ;D) this prevented him getting the job there.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: WBAinDEVON on May 02, 2012, 02:32:16 PM
Alan Cleverley just been interviewed on TalkSport and he said he would like to see Chris Hughton.That should annoy the Blues fans listening :)
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: addy on May 02, 2012, 02:39:50 PM
Is a young up and coming manager what we need? Its took an old head to steady the ship after the whipper snappers have had a go.
I think we should be looking at a more established manager at this level.
Half of me says give it to a Chris Houton type and half says give it to a Curbishley type, whichever way we go its got the tongues wagging aye it?  :P

Hughton is around the same age as Curbishley, I hope we go for Hughton personally, worked under 10 different managers at spurs as assistant for ten years, thats some experience alone. Did a decent job at Newcastle, the fans hated the fact he was sacked and even protested.  Had a interview with us and Peace admired him highly, but was just a bad time with us wanting to keep backroom staff and Roy being available. Gone to Birmingham and now doing a decent job with them.

I cant see it being anyone other than Chris, the only problem might be if Birmingham get promoted, he may not want to move. Though I still think its a possibility, he may actually find it refreshing coming to a club that has no off the field problems.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: phbaggies on May 02, 2012, 02:46:27 PM
All you AVB lovers are going to be disappointed, looks like he is going to be Roma's new gaffer next season! ......Peace's fault for acting too slow and letting someone get in there before us  ;)
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: nick_wba on May 02, 2012, 02:47:58 PM
I do think it's odd how there has been no mention on any message boards regarding Jose Camacho yet our spons Bodog put him on very short odds of 4-1. In my opinion he has made it onto DA and JP's shortlist.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: BB74 on May 02, 2012, 02:51:52 PM
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: LegendOfAstle on May 02, 2012, 02:54:41 PM
Did a decent job at Newcastle, the fans hated the fact he was sacked and even protested. 

The same fans i guess who protested at him being appointed in the first place.

Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: smethwickw on May 02, 2012, 03:35:26 PM
Early days but these would be my top three so far

2.Curbishley-Great success at Charlton but more to the point is from the Roy style of play so we wouldn't have to change things 100%.Down side is he has been gone a long time from the game.


September 2008 when he left West Ham. Have things changed that much since?
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: saml30 on May 02, 2012, 05:17:57 PM
I can't see it, from what I've heard he is very much from the Gary Megson school of management. Can't see him working within our structure nor our players being happy with some of his 'ways'.  His record is good but things that happened behind closed doors have tarnished his reputation within some quarters of the game and is probably the reason why no club has really shown a serious interest in him as yet.


thanks, had no idea of anything like that i just watched and admired how well Huddersfield were doing and that unbeaten streak is impressive which ever way you look at it but if he is 'that way' i cant see it going down well with people like pete and yes i agree wouldn't fit in with the set-up we have
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Albion79 on May 02, 2012, 05:31:07 PM
I think everyone we get linked with is going to have pro and cons, Mourinho or Guardiola arent going to join us so whoever comes will have some drawback. (turns out Guardiola werent in the Moat House or The Vine today with JP and Ashworth!)

Regarding Lee Clark, i am pretty sure the Huddersfield fans were glad he got sacked wasnt they? I think they had that massive unbeaten run but a big chunk of that was draws and by all accounts from when he first started he had them playing good stuff to when he left they were boring, i remember reading they said he started to get obsessed about the unbeaten run and did everything to set them up to stop them losing.

Saying that he deserves another chance, if it was with us he would have my full support, although his voice (not his accent) really grates me!
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: kevan49 on May 02, 2012, 06:58:14 PM
Apart from CH who continues to do a great job wherever he is, I'd like to see us give some serious thought to Paul Lambert. In the short time that he's been a manager he's done incredibly well. He, like CH is used to making the best out of limited resources and I am a great admirer of the way in which he deals with players and the media.

There's no doubt that we need someone with a strong personality who ensures that sides are well organised and who can give positive leadership even though they're working in limited circumstances; either of these would fit the bill for me.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: WBA 59 on May 02, 2012, 07:07:27 PM
How about our old player Martin Jol. I believe he could do a good job for us
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: BB74 on May 02, 2012, 07:09:04 PM
How about our old player Martin Jol. I believe he could do a good job for us

If he was unattached then possibly but Fulham to us would be a sidewards if not backwards step IMO.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: HampshireBaggie on May 02, 2012, 07:13:43 PM
How about our old player Martin Jol. I believe he could do a good job for us

He's only just joined Fulham.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: LegendOfAstle on May 02, 2012, 07:20:06 PM
Just having a look at the latest betting odds. Zola at 20/1? not a bad shout, didn't do alot wrong at west ham and there fans didn't want him to go, plus the football was good.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: clintsmoker on May 02, 2012, 08:23:28 PM
would love to see CH. would welcome lambert. Cant see why martinez would come to us when surely his name is being passed around bigger clubs. Curbishley? Please, we just got lucky and got rid of one boring manager.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Baggie79 on May 02, 2012, 08:49:14 PM
No way Curbishley could ever work within our structure or with JP, a complete non starter for me!!
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: WBASPE77 on May 02, 2012, 08:52:26 PM
I wouldnt want Curbs been out of managment for half a decade now.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: zippyandbungle on May 02, 2012, 09:04:13 PM
Controversial

Dan Ashworth ?
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: weareblueweare white on May 02, 2012, 09:08:20 PM
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: GrGr on May 02, 2012, 09:08:41 PM
Controversial

Dan Ashworth ?

No way we are going to rock our setup like that. DA is perfect where he is. Let's get a new progressive coach to go with our progressive club.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: BB74 on May 02, 2012, 09:19:27 PM
Controversial

Dan Ashworth ?

I'm sure if Dan wanted to be a coach then he would have gone down that route.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: tommcneill on May 02, 2012, 09:26:57 PM
Di Matteo..i tell thee!

Hughton,is the standout appointment for me..his attention to detail is second to none

the idea I'm warming too is Laudrup..
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: the_mighty_boosh on May 02, 2012, 10:06:58 PM
Hughton! does any body remember his toon side that got beat at out place, because all they did was lump it up to carrol, reminded me of Mowbray, no plan B, id love to see Brendon Rogers up the Albion he can get a team playing, but i cant see him leaving swansea for love nor money, Hughton!! no thanks!!

im realy f*****g worried, we've grown steadly since megson and i fear tough times are ahead because how do you better Roy hodgson
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: smethwickw on May 02, 2012, 10:16:20 PM
I wouldnt want Curbs been out of managment for half a decade now.

3 and a half years actually. I'm not sure that matters anyway. How has the game changed since then?
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: the_mighty_boosh on May 02, 2012, 10:39:41 PM
3 and a half years actually. I'm not sure that matters anyway. How has the game changed since then?

yeah Albion are tenth, would love to keep it that way
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: ComebackStrodds on May 02, 2012, 11:11:18 PM
No one has mentioned Mike Phelan. He'd get a hero's welcome from his playing days with us  ;D. He'd want his old mate Steve Lillwall as his no 2
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: bagstaff on May 03, 2012, 12:44:22 AM
in terms of chir hughton

Like previous messages i seem to remember the issue with wanting to bring in his backroom staff when we already had appleton.

But then compare and contrast hughton's record both at newcastle and birmingham with or without colin calderwood.

If it is hughton, it has to be Hughton plus one please!!!
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: bigbadjohn on May 03, 2012, 01:24:12 AM
Would nobody be interested in having Tony Mowbray back , we had Carson in goal when he was at the Albion ? Mowbray with foster might work wonders ;)
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Kicking Pigeons on May 03, 2012, 03:02:43 AM
Would nobody be interested in having Tony Mowbray back , we had Carson in goal when he was at the Albion ? Mowbray with foster might work wonders ;)
Definitely. If it wasn't for Carson Mowbray would right now be regarded as the greatest manager to have ever lived.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: up_the_baggies on May 03, 2012, 05:31:14 AM
Definitely. If it wasn't for Carson Mowbray would right now be regarded as the greatest manager to have ever lived.

Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit  ;D
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: mank baggie on May 03, 2012, 08:41:21 AM
Would nobody be interested in having Tony Mowbray back , we had Carson in goal when he was at the Albion ? Mowbray with foster might work wonders ;)
traitor thats what he is mate
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: wbastrollers on May 03, 2012, 09:06:23 AM
Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit  ;D

I was worried there for a minute. ;D
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: hardtobeat on May 03, 2012, 09:27:25 AM
Quick glance at oddschecker,seems Hughton :D is now favourite with many bookies.Would also seem there has been support for Martinez :-\and Bruce >:(!!
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: WBAinDEVON on May 03, 2012, 09:29:19 AM
Lets be realistic here we wont get Hughton
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: BB74 on May 03, 2012, 09:32:15 AM
Lets be realistic here we wont get Hughton

If Blues don't go up then there is every chance we will get Hughton if we want him.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: RowleyBaggie2 on May 03, 2012, 09:52:16 AM
Alan Cleverley just been interviewed on TalkSport and he said he would like to see Chris Hughton.That should annoy the Blues fans listening :)

Has he had bluetooth fitted on his horse then?
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: HampshireBaggie on May 03, 2012, 10:01:55 AM
Another question that hasn't been mentioned, is WHEN do you think we'll appoint?
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: AidantheBaggies on May 03, 2012, 10:02:13 AM
Has he had bluetooth fitted on his horse then?

Does anybody know why he always wears that hat??

I agree with WBAinDevon, i really cannot see Hughton coming to us.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: LegendOfAstle on May 03, 2012, 10:16:00 AM
Another question that hasn't been mentioned, is WHEN do you think we'll appoint?

As soon as it is convenient. If its Haughton then obviously it wont be until birmingham finish there playoffs. Only a couple weeks to go of the season so no harm in waiting a bit longer.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: AidantheBaggies on May 03, 2012, 10:22:22 AM
Its really getting on my nerves now:

Its Hughton

Not:

Haughton or Hughton
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: kris_boing on May 03, 2012, 10:23:48 AM
How about Delio Rossi?   ;D
 
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11854/7725327/Rossi-axed-for-Ljajic-attack (http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11854/7725327/Rossi-axed-for-Ljajic-attack)
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: hardtobeat on May 03, 2012, 10:24:02 AM
Would have thought all 4 of the managers involved with the play offs will be under consideration,so that would make any decision the middle of next week at the earliest if it is to be any one of them.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: JtheMull on May 03, 2012, 10:26:40 AM
We need someone with Premier League experience. Rafa Benitez? ;)
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: zippyandbungle on May 03, 2012, 10:29:27 AM
Another question that hasn't been mentioned, is WHEN do you think we'll appoint?

A soon as the cheque from the f.a. Is cashed :D
Seriously there will always have been a succession plan and evn now they will be looking at the next one , it won't be Bruce ,curbishley, or MacLeish (sorry vile fans) but it will be some one who has been considered and monitored for some time.
Solskear, poyet,mcinnes all maybe if it was next year but I think they will want a touch more experience which should put Hughton! Rdm,laudrap and maybe a couple of the continent in the box set, also whoever comes in has to work in our continental system which definitely rules out the three dinosaurs..
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Floydy on May 03, 2012, 10:29:40 AM
Would have thought all 4 of the managers involved with the play offs will be under consideration,so that would make any decision the middle of next week at the earliest if it is to be any one of them.

I wouldn't have through Allardyce or Holloway are. Neither are our kind of Manager for very differing reasons.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Sessegod on May 03, 2012, 10:46:30 AM
Hughton! does any body remember his toon side that got beat at out place, because all they did was lump it up to carrol, reminded me of Mowbray, no plan B, id love to see Brendon Rogers up the Albion he can get a team playing, but i cant see him leaving swansea for love nor money, Hughton!! no thanks!!

im realy f*****g worried, we've grown steadly since megson and i fear tough times are ahead because how do you better Roy hodgson

I totally agree, i have major concerns, how do you top having the England manager....
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: GrGr on May 03, 2012, 11:42:30 AM
I have confidence the board will find a good manager for us. Thing is I know my biases and prejudices cloud my judgement while the board has a good track record, has learnt from past mistakes, and most importantly get to grill the candidates.

For example I wondered what Newcastle was up to when they sacked Hughton and installed Pardew. Turns out they had a plan, Pardew had spent his time out of the game wisely, basically analyzing and copying a lot of Mourinho's Chelsea methods, and then they cleared out the overpaid players and brought in genuine talent from the continent. 
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: LegendOfAstle on May 03, 2012, 12:14:34 PM
Turns out they had a plan

Mike Ashley having a plan? Lets not go over board here, he got lucky with pardew who was an extremely unpopular choice amongst fans. All i can say is, whoever is the next manager, like it or not we support him 100% - even if it is Iain Dowie (obviously not - just saying).
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: hunsletbaggie on May 03, 2012, 12:19:46 PM
I'd be happy with a cheeky bid to speak to Martin Jol Fulham fans were a bit unhappy with him when he first came.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: mulliganstired on May 03, 2012, 12:28:22 PM
I'd love to see Jol here, he was very positive about the club when we beat them 2-0 when he was Spurs manager, but I can't see him leaving Fulham after a year.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: GrGr on May 03, 2012, 12:31:30 PM
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Albion79 on May 03, 2012, 12:46:12 PM
I agree, think Mike Ashley has done a great job at Newcastle including the decision to go with Pardew when everyone thought Hughton was doing a great job (which he was) Pardew has took them up another level with some good signings, they are entertaining, and i personally have started to like Newcastle again, i think they went through a phase of feeling football owed them something and the world loved them (ie - like West Ham) but now they are back to normal and likeable again! The geordies are a good lot!

As for Ashley he got loads of stick, the cockney mafia, etc and no doubt he has made mistakes but he has also turned them round from been a resting home for mercenaries - Viduka, Owen, etc to name a couple that lost money hand over foot to being well organised and a club on the up, fair play to him. Even though he changed the name of the ground every football fan still knows its St James so although it will of brought them in a few quid it dont really affect their identity.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Roolee on May 03, 2012, 01:01:06 PM
I'd love it if RDM came back.  He hasn't stopped learning since he left us and is getting better and better.  Bring him back!

Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: garry on May 03, 2012, 01:11:34 PM
I'm finding too many objections to most of the main candidates.
I think we should be looking at Michael Laudrup.
He might not have Premiership experience, but he now has enough management experience.
I think his football style would suit us and he's our 'type' of manager. I'm sure he would accept a chance to manager a top-flight premiership team such as ours. ;)
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Handsworth Wood Villa on May 03, 2012, 01:36:29 PM
I'm happy for you to take McLeish off our hands  :D
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: overseas baggie on May 03, 2012, 01:39:13 PM
Something is happening in the betting market.

Yesterday, Curbishley was on average around evens to 6/4, while Hughton was more like 4/1.  Today, Curbishley is out at around 3/1 on average, while Hughton has dropped to around 7/4 on average.   An across-the-board shift like that means that there has been a wave of new money on Hughton, which is usually linked to somebody influential being "in the know".

Bear in mind that Blues haven't yet played their first leg semi-final play-off, so there is no influence from that.

Something is bubbling....
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on May 03, 2012, 01:39:22 PM
We need someone with Premier League experience. Rafa Benitez? ;)

Is that a serious suggestion?  :)
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: overseas baggie on May 03, 2012, 01:40:23 PM
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: westbrom87 on May 03, 2012, 02:41:41 PM
Where has this Jose Camacho come from? Bodog offering 4/1.  he;s China manager apparantly.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Sessegod on May 03, 2012, 05:00:07 PM
I'd love it if RDM came back.  He hasn't stopped learning since he left us and is getting better and better.  Bring him back!

I really don't get the RDM thing - any assistant manager who stepped into AVB's place would have gone on this run and won some games. It's very different running a team of seasoned internationals than running the Albion.

The only thing that RDM learned at Chelsea is when all the top multimillionaires throw their little dollies out of the pram, is to pick it up, put it back and give their little arms a rub and make sure they are ok. Then pick the team they want every week.

So RDM has learned one thing - and he was just in the right place at the right time.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: dont ask me to choose luv on May 03, 2012, 05:04:23 PM
I'm happy for you to take McLeish off our hands  :D

You ungrateful bugger, after what we did for you last week so you could keep him.  ;)
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: hardtobeat on May 03, 2012, 05:24:57 PM
Where has this Jose Camacho come from? Bodog offering 4/1.  he;s China manager apparantly.
AM now living in Spain and he has been mentioned over here as somebody that as somebody that may be in the job.Was a Spanish international as aplayer and without using wiki or google feel he may have coached Sociedad or Osasuna or somebody like that.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: clintsmoker on May 03, 2012, 05:48:20 PM
Hughton! does any body remember his toon side that got beat at out place, because all they did was lump it up to carrol, reminded me of Mowbray, no plan B,

Hughton obviosly played to Carrol's strengths. A good manager manages with what he has got.  Roy spent most of his time trying to get Albion players to play in a style that didn't suit them. In my book that is poor management. Bet Liverpool fans wish Dalglish would play to Carrol's strengths after wasting 50 mil on him.
If I remember rightly Newcastle beat us to the title that year too and certainly didn't do it as the long ball specialists.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: wbastrollers on May 03, 2012, 06:32:45 PM
Hughton obviosly played to Carrol's strengths. A good manager manages with what he has got.  Roy spent most of his time trying to get Albion players to play in a style that didn't suit them. In my book that is poor management. Bet Liverpool fans wish Dalglish would play to Carrol's strengths after wasting 50 mil on him.
If I remember rightly Newcastle beat us to the title that year too and certainly didn't do it as the long ball specialists.

I sometimes wonder how we got to 10th with such a poor manager!?
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: ian on May 03, 2012, 06:41:12 PM
I sometimes wonder how we got to 10th with such a poor manager!?
I often wonder that but then  i know the answer
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: WakeyBaggie on May 03, 2012, 10:06:38 PM
Have faith in JP and Dan Ashworth. So far when the job has been available they have not let us down. I favour Hughton or Curbishley. Both are realistic as Blues even if they come up have a transfer embargo so will probably go straight back down again so Hughtin may decide to leave anyway. Curbishley is experienced but my fear is that he has been out of the game for too long. Martinez would also do for me but I think we are unlikely to get him.  However as I say have faith in the men making the decisions. Also a big thanks to Roy for all he has done in stabilising us in the Prem
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Baggy nerd on May 03, 2012, 11:04:47 PM
Martinez will not leave Wigan for WBA. I don't understand why so many people want him anyway. Can't see Rogers or Lambert moving. Hughton or Poyet may be more realistic and I wouldn't mind either of them.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: rajesh-wba on May 04, 2012, 12:05:49 AM
Martinez will not leave Wigan for WBA. I don't understand why so many people want him anyway. Can't see Rogers or Lambert moving. Hughton or Poyet may be more realistic and I wouldn't mind either of them.

Poyet's buy-out clause is pretty big by all accounts. I agree that Martinez won't see joining West Brom as a massive step up from Wigan. It's going to be tough, whoever joins. In an ideal world, Roy Hodgson would have solidified us for another couple of seasons, in the Premier League before departing. I can't really see past Hughton, but then I do have slight reservations with him, unless we spring a surprise and look abroad for a Coach who fits our set-up.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Sessegod on May 04, 2012, 08:34:58 AM
looks like Capello then, he wants a job in the Prem.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: WBAinDEVON on May 04, 2012, 08:54:46 AM
Martinez will not leave Wigan for WBA. I don't understand why so many people want him anyway. Can't see Rogers or Lambert moving. Hughton or Poyet may be more realistic and I wouldn't mind either of them.


Agree with all you say
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: garry on May 04, 2012, 09:08:37 AM
Have faith in JP and Dan Ashworth. So far when the job has been available they have not let us down.
I agree totally.
We just have to have faith.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: jamesh_91 on May 04, 2012, 09:24:02 AM
looks like Capello then, he wants a job in the Prem.

Would be a great appointment but he has said he wants to manage a team who will be playing Champions League football so he has got his eye on the Chelsea job.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Adder on May 04, 2012, 10:02:27 AM
Any comments from Blues fans about style of football played under Hughton ? Are we talking Barcelona, Stoke or hopefully somewhere in between ?
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: JDWest_Brom on May 04, 2012, 10:09:00 AM
Some money has gone on Solskjaer overnight with a few bookies. He's down to 10/1 with Sky Bet.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Nocky on May 04, 2012, 11:37:07 AM
Any comments from Blues fans about style of football played under Hughton ? Are we talking Barcelona, Stoke or hopefully somewhere in between ?

I've made the point before about Hughton's football. He's very similar to Roy IMO based on what I have seen off his teams and from the comments of Newcastle and Birmingham fans. Like Roy he appears to favour an organised 442 and whilst he's by no means a 'long ball' manager he certainly doesn't get his teams playing free flowing football ala Brendan Rodgers or Roberto Martinez. It's why I am surprised to see some of those who slated RH's style of football clamouring for a manger who is, IMO, of a very similar mould.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Nocky on May 04, 2012, 11:44:34 AM
Some money has gone on Solskjaer overnight with a few bookies. He's down to 10/1 with Sky Bet.

Solskjaer would be an extremely exciting appointment, as would Michael Laudrup. However, just because they are exciting it doesn't necessarily mean that they would be the right appointments. Both would represent a 'risk' given their lack of experience of managing in this country and at this level but both appear to have a lot of potential. The likes of Hughton and Curbishley may not inspire the masses but both have proved that they can cut it at this level and may be the safer option.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: BB74 on May 04, 2012, 11:47:54 AM
The only time I have ever been excited by an appointment was Tony Mowbray. Roy Hodgson was seen as a safe pair of hands but not exciting.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: gingernumpty on May 04, 2012, 12:10:07 PM
Now this might seem a real stretch but I bet against hodgson turning up.  Looking at some other clubs, their finances and the challanges they continue to face, my number 1 choice is obviously not listed.  Could we push the boat out and try "David Moyes!".  Que lots of no chance comments but I don't think we would miss Roy as much if it happened.  Pehaps its a pipe dream.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: PortsmouthBaggie on May 04, 2012, 12:12:56 PM
Now this might seem a real stretch but I bet against hodgson turning up.  Looking at some other clubs, their finances and the challanges they continue to face, my number 1 choice is obviously not listed.  Could we push the boat out and try "David Moyes!".  Que lots of no chance comments but I don't think we would miss Roy as much if it happened.  Pehaps its a pipe dream.

I don't think we would be an unattractive option for him if he wasn't at a very good club already. He will go on to possibly manage Man Utd next.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: phbaggies on May 04, 2012, 12:35:10 PM
David Moyes, Capello and AVB? How our expectations have changed eh?  Im looking forward to the transfer rumour threads on here when the window opens because if we think we are going to attract this calibre of manager then god knows what kind of players people think we should be attracting!! ;D
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: bigbadjohn on May 04, 2012, 01:46:23 PM
We could try and get Mourinho because he might be able to bring Ronaldo with him aswell :D
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: LegendOfAstle on May 04, 2012, 01:47:57 PM
West Bromwich Albions attempt to sign Chris Hughton may be thwarted if Hughton gains promotion to the premier league with Birmingham. With Portsmouth having a "Hands Off" approach and Poyet stating he'll only leave Brighton for a big club, The Baggies will turn to Gary Megson to re-take the reigns. Solid Source


ummmm i hope thats not true.....
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: tuamigos on May 04, 2012, 01:52:47 PM
West Bromwich Albions attempt to sign Chris Hughton may be thwarted if Hughton gains promotion to the premier league with Birmingham. With Portsmouth having a "Hands Off" approach and Poyet stating he'll only leave Brighton for a big club, The Baggies will turn to Gary Megson to re-take the reigns. Solid Source


ummmm i hope thats not true.....


 :D  more chance of platting fog   :D
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Mossi28 on May 04, 2012, 01:52:56 PM
West Bromwich Albions attempt to sign Chris Hughton may be thwarted if Hughton gains promotion to the premier league with Birmingham. With Portsmouth having a "Hands Off" approach and Poyet stating he'll only leave Brighton for a big club, The Baggies will turn to Gary Megson to re-take the reigns. Solid Source


ummmm i hope thats not true.....

Highly doubt Megson will work under Peace again after the last time.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Floydy on May 04, 2012, 01:53:04 PM
West Bromwich Albions attempt to sign Chris Hughton may be thwarted if Hughton gains promotion to the premier league with Birmingham. With Portsmouth having a "Hands Off" approach and Poyet stating he'll only leave Brighton for a big club, The Baggies will turn to Gary Megson to re-take the reigns. Solid Source


ummmm i hope thats not true.....

Ha Ha Ha - That will never happen. SGM is a God, but no way would Peace re-appoint him.

I still feel we will appoint Hughton and regardless I think both Poyet & Appleton would jump at the chance to manage a steady club in the Premier league.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: addy on May 04, 2012, 02:04:53 PM
Bolton boss Gary Megson reveals hatred for West Brom chairman Jeremy Peace

Megson fumed: "You will never hear me mention his name. I never have and I never will. I don't want to sully myself. I will never get over how I think he treated me and my family. I don't want to mention anything more about the bloke." - 2008

I think its safe to say that 'Solid Source' is prolly sitting in someones toilet bowl.

Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: bigbadjohn on May 04, 2012, 02:05:41 PM
Spot on Floydy!!
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Adder on May 04, 2012, 02:14:25 PM
Back to Hughton's style of football, is he cagey ?
goals scored by Championship top 5

Reading 69
Southampton 85
West Ham 71
Birmingham 78
Blackpool 79

Stats can be misleading and it is the Championship but given that he took over a side that weren't free scoring under McLeish, the goal return is pretty good.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: jonny on May 04, 2012, 02:41:00 PM
Word is ranieri. Probably bull but thoughts?
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: ronnie_allen on May 04, 2012, 02:43:56 PM
Word is ranieri. Probably bull but thoughts?

Anyone but Steve Bull mate  :D ;)
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: kris_boing on May 04, 2012, 02:56:56 PM
Word is ranieri. Probably bull but thoughts?

Interesting because his odds have been slashed in the last few moments on oddschecker.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: jonny on May 04, 2012, 03:06:40 PM

Interesting because his odds have been slashed in the last few moments on oddschecker.

Just checked myself, looks like might have some substance!
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: hardtobeat on May 04, 2012, 03:08:36 PM

Interesting because his odds have been slashed in the last few moments on oddschecker.
6/4 with corals :o :o now i know bookies aren't usually generous but bloody hell thats squeezing it til the pips squeak!!
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: jonny on May 04, 2012, 03:09:10 PM
6/4 with corals :o :o now i know bookies aren't usually generous but bloody hell thats squeezing it til the pips squeak!!

I know, my mate works there and he is shocked!
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: nick_wba on May 04, 2012, 03:10:13 PM
I posted a BBC article on an earlier page about how Ranieri wanted a good project in the Premier League, something he can work on and build. I think we have just that and DA and JP could easily sell the club to him. He is desperate to get a job back in the prem and lets be honest, none of the top 6 clubs are going to hire him any time soon. I think there is a chance this could happen.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: leeiswba on May 04, 2012, 03:10:33 PM
Would be amazing, cant see it myself though
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: howi1068 on May 04, 2012, 03:16:19 PM
Ranieri would be brilliant at the Hawthorns. Would be my first choice, however seems unlikely. I saw that Jose Camacho was at 6/1 with Bodog.... inside knowledge?? I wouldn't want him as he has failed in most jobs he has been in. China haven't qualified for the world cup, he took Osasuna down and he was awful at Real Madrid.

Still think it'll be Hughton though.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Ogwani on May 04, 2012, 03:17:44 PM
Apparently Delio Rossi hit Ljajic for poking fun at his disabled kid. Seems like a vindicated assault to me. We want somebody with this authority, sign him up!

I cannot see Ranieri coming.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: HampshireBaggie on May 04, 2012, 03:18:31 PM
ranieri is too good to be true!!
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: nick_wba on May 04, 2012, 03:21:43 PM
Why wouldn't Ranieri come? He's a good manager, not a world class manager. To get to that next step we need a good manager (like Ranieri) there isn't much of a difference between him and Hodgson in my opinion.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: kris_boing on May 04, 2012, 03:24:47 PM
Seem to remember him struggling with the English language but cant remember if it improved and he was without a translator when he left Chelsea.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: BB74 on May 04, 2012, 03:39:47 PM
Seem to remember him struggling with the English language but cant remember if it improved and he was without a translator when he left Chelsea.

I think he still continues with lessons and the last English interview I saw of him he done quite well without a translator. It's safe to say his English is better than Capello but he's no Mancini or Di Matteo.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: WBAinDEVON on May 04, 2012, 03:41:24 PM
I think he still continues with lessons and the last English interview I saw of him he done quite well without a translator. It's safe to say his English is better than Capello but he's no Mancini or Di Matteo.


I still cant understand Mancini myself :D
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: elminius on May 04, 2012, 03:58:58 PM
He did a pre match interview outside the Man City ground before the manure match, his english seemed much better
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: kris_boing on May 04, 2012, 04:03:21 PM
If not he can always bring in 'Butch' Wilkins with him.  ;D
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Albion79 on May 04, 2012, 04:12:04 PM
I like Ranieri, for some reason he always makes me laugh (not that we should appoint him for that reason!) and he seems a genuine passionate bloke who loves football.

However, i wouldnt say he wont become our manager, but i would be surprised (but pleased) if he did. I dont think its necessarily the fact we arent a top 6 club or not in europe, i think managers do sometimes look past that, its the fact we wont offer massive funds for him or whoever the manager is and they would get paid very well but probably not what they were used to. I am sure i read Roy came to us on a lot lower than his Liverpool salary as he had his payoff from there, that could work with a 'bigger name' manager.

I think clubs of similar ilk to us Fulham, Sunderland, Stoke all probably about equals playing wise can offer managers big fat chequebooks to get cracking with, Fulham, and Sunderland managers went there because they are big spenders or have the potential to be and the same would apply to QPR (if they stay up) West Ham (if they come up) Reading could too if they got rid of there manager and Stoke spend big (but well) under Pulis.

Its not a criticism of the way we are run, its not a lack of ambition either i just cannot see a big name coming to us, i think Roy did with one eye on England and its fair to say it paid off!
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Baggie Man on May 04, 2012, 04:20:20 PM
I thhink the obvious stand out choice is Chris Hughton, he in my opinion has the potential to be better than Hodgson, he would be cheaper and he has experience at working with little amounts of money. If Birmingham stay down he would be tempted as he wouldnt have to leave the area. Even if Birmingham come up he would be tempted as inevitably he's fighting a losing battle there.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: smethwickw on May 04, 2012, 04:32:21 PM
I must admit I can't get too excited about the prospect of Hughton coming here. He did well at Newcastle but who wouldn't have got their squad promoted. Mid table after about a dozen games in the Prem, again pretty respectable but we started the season off like a train too under RDM. He was extremely unfortunate to be sacked but the board must have had some concerns at the time. Again a decent job at Blues under the circumstances but they do still have a decent squad. I worry about his lack of top flight managerial experience. I know people have to start somewhere and the likes of Rodgers and Lambert have done well this season. Is he really any better than RDM? There isn't really a stand out candidate for me TBH.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: wba1993dave on May 04, 2012, 05:06:03 PM
Go get the tinker man JP :P :P
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on May 04, 2012, 05:14:25 PM
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11095/7731030/

West Brom assistant Keith Downing does not want to succeed Roy Hodgson as manager but refused to rule out the possibility of following him to England.
 
The former Birmingham and Wolves midfielder joined the Baggies as youth team coach in July 2009 and has worked alongside Hodgson as No2 since his arrival in January 2011.
 
With Hodgson preparing to leave the club at the end of the season in order to take charge of England, speculation has already begun regarding possible replacements at the Hawthorns.
 
Downing, who had a short spell in charge of Cheltenham in 2007-08, was quick to dismiss any chance of him applying for the manager's job.
 
However, he was less certain as to whether he would follow Hodgson through the West Brom exit doors and down to Wembley.
 
"I will not put myself forward for the Albion job. It is for someone who has a bit more experience at this moment in time," said the 46-year-old.
 
Questions

"Will I be going to England? There are a lot of questions to be answered. We will prepare for the end of the season and then see what happens."
 
West Brom travel to Bolton on Sunday before wrapping up their campaign with a home match against Arsenal seven days later.
 
With the club currently sat in 10th place the prospect of a top-half finish should be enough motivation for the players in their final two games but Downing believes they will be even more desperate to end on high in order to pay tribute to their departing manager.
 
"The players are disappointed Roy is leaving because it was going so well," added the 46-year-old.
 
"But they are professional people, will want to finish the season off in the right manner for Roy and make sure we attain the targets we set. He would demand that anyway.
 
"We want to get more points than last year, to keep our recent unbeaten run going, and we also know the magnitude of Sunday's game away to Bolton.
 
Integrity

"They need to win the game and we have to honour the integrity of the league and finish it off in the right way.
 
"The fans will also want to give Roy a good send-off. There are 4,500 going to Bolton and most I believe will be dressing up in England shirts.
 
"There is a warmth about supporters towards Roy. They appreciate what work he has done."
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: boing_boing68 on May 04, 2012, 05:15:27 PM
betfred where i work are doing 10/11 on Ranieri
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: ben_westbrom on May 04, 2012, 05:22:43 PM
Quote
Chris Lepkowski ? @chrislepkowski
#wba yet to start procedure of shortlisting. Still in process considering names, taking calls from agents pitching clients, etc. So any 'favourites' at the moment are no more than speculative, certainly at this stage, in any case

I know it probably just reiterates what we already knew but hopefully they should have a shortlist ready in the coming weeks.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: bartleygreen baggie on May 04, 2012, 05:34:10 PM
I think some of you are overhyping Ranieri he's been sacked by almost every club he's been at! I don't think he's won as much as you would think.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: overseas baggie on May 04, 2012, 05:40:24 PM
I think some of you are overhyping Ranieri he's been sacked by almost every club he's been at! I don't think he's won as much as you would think.

Just about every manager has been sacked eventually  by almost every club they've been at, with a few exceptions. Every manager/coach has a natural shelf life with a group of players.   Ferguson and Moyes are two big exceptions.

I'd still prefer Hughton, as I'd feel more confident knowing exactly what we had, but Ranieri isnt a bad shout at all.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: boing_boing68 on May 04, 2012, 05:46:10 PM
I think some of you are overhyping Ranieri he's been sacked by almost every club he's been at! I don't think he's won as much as you would think.

someone who Chelsea, Valencia, Roma etc have decided is good enough to manage them can't be too bad really
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Standaman on May 04, 2012, 06:56:47 PM
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: TheJacko2000 on May 04, 2012, 07:25:31 PM
Ranieri has won Serie B, the Coppa Italia and the Supercoppa Italiana (All Fiorentina); The Copa del Ray and The European Super Cup with Valencia. 2x 6th a 4th and 2nd place finishes with Chelsea. Kept Parma up against the odds, similar to Roy with us. Took newly promoted Juventus to a 3rd place Serie A finish. Then got jobs at Roma where he reached the Coppa Italia final and was challenging Mourinho's Inter for the title, he was so bad there they decided to give him the job at Inter  ???

How anyone can tell West Bromwich Albion fans not to be excited by the possibility of a manager of this quality I will never know!!!
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Floydy on May 04, 2012, 07:33:31 PM
I can't believe that Ranieri will be our next manager but have all my fingers and toes crossed.

Can't really believe that some bookies have him evens or odds on  ???

Here's to hoping
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: VANDERLEI on May 04, 2012, 08:06:15 PM
Organised Italian manager with a very good track record? You'd be mad not to want that. Anyone who does is living in cloud cuckooland. Doubt Ranieri will be our next manager though.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Dan on May 04, 2012, 08:09:36 PM
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: MulumbuPower! on May 04, 2012, 09:25:48 PM
Not going to happen, but I'm going to spend the whole night thinking about this now and hoping.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: smethwickw on May 04, 2012, 09:47:35 PM
Ranieri top of list on oddschecker. I see Bet Victor have Guardiola at 150-1. :o
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: BB74 on May 04, 2012, 09:51:32 PM
Curbishley Wednesday, Hughton yesterday and Ranieri today. Who's going top of the list tomorrow?
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: geoff on May 04, 2012, 10:03:20 PM
Curbishley Wednesday, Hughton yesterday and Ranieri today. Who's going top of the list tomorrow?

Perhaps some one special one, one chosen to be the best ever surrpose we will have to wait & see ::)
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: sconesy on May 04, 2012, 10:35:30 PM
Regarding Ranieri...........my mate was sitting on a train from London this afternoon. Ranieri was sitting opposite with his agent, on their way to Brum. Having recognised the man in question, my friend who is a Vile fan asked him....."are you interested in the Wolves job"? Ranieri replied "not sure if I would manage in the championship" and his agent laughed!!!! Read into it what you will but I guarantee he was on that train!!! He took 33/1 there and then.

The man is in the mids. Fact
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: boing_boing68 on May 04, 2012, 10:38:43 PM
Right can we ban any mention of ranieri until he is either confirmed or it's someone else, this is getting way too excited now  ;D
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: crazedwbafan18 on May 04, 2012, 11:04:08 PM
lets not get carried away now, as mouthwatering as the prospect is, will he suit our newly adopted defensive style? does he want to come to a club outside of the top 6, potentially with mediocre wages(in the footballing world)? its a lot of ifs and maybes, but hopefully he has some baggie inside him interested in managing our beloved club. im not getting ahead of myself though, still an outsider.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Signor_Maresca on May 04, 2012, 11:36:59 PM
Ranieri is in the country as ESPN have him as one of the pundits on their FA Cup coverage tomorrow.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: KingKoren on May 05, 2012, 12:59:48 AM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/article-2139801/John-Terry-stirs-Bruce-Bucks-Gary-Cahill-gaffe--Charles-Sale.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

Albion bound? Claudio Ranieri was overheard on a train talking about West Bromwich

Meanwhile, Claudio Ranieri was overheard discussing the strengths and weaknesses of the West Brom squad on a train to Birmingham yesterday. It suggests the former Chelsea boss was heading to The Hawthorns for an interview.

Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: boinging_along on May 05, 2012, 01:21:36 AM
I think some of you are overhyping Ranieri he's been sacked by almost every club he's been at! I don't think he's won as much as you would think.

Most managers have been sacked by pretty much every club they've ever worked at.

I would be over the moon if we had someone like Ranieri!  ;D
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: OldburyWBA on May 05, 2012, 01:40:05 AM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/article-2139801/John-Terry-stirs-Bruce-Bucks-Gary-Cahill-gaffe--Charles-Sale.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

Albion bound? Claudio Ranieri was overheard on a train talking about West Bromwich

Meanwhile, Claudio Ranieri was overheard discussing the strengths and weaknesses of the West Brom squad on a train to Birmingham yesterday. It suggests the former Chelsea boss was heading to The Hawthorns for an interview.

Noticed that story was published at 23.57 on their website, just over an hour after the post from sconesy on this site.

Not that i'm saying that the Daily Mail picked it up off here obviously as that would be a silly thing to suggest  ;)
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: KingKoren on May 05, 2012, 01:41:53 AM
Noticed that story was published at 23.57 on their website, just over an hour after the post from sconesy on this site.

Not that i'm saying that the Daily Mail picked it up off here obviously as that would be a silly thing to suggest  ;)

All top journalists get their stories from this website  ;D
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: up_the_baggies on May 05, 2012, 01:46:29 AM
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/05/04/article-2139801-12EC32DC000005DC-492_468x286.jpg)

Anyone else thinks he looks a bit like that gay bloke off Gimme Gimme Gimme?
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Kicking Pigeons on May 05, 2012, 01:49:18 AM
Anyone else thinks he looks a bit like that gay bloke off Gimme Gimme Gimme?
Looks like a cross between the Gimme Gimme Gimme bloke and Father Ted.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: dont ask me to choose luv on May 05, 2012, 10:12:20 AM
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/05/04/article-2139801-12EC32DC000005DC-492_468x286.jpg)

Anyone else thinks he looks a bit like that gay bloke off Gimme Gimme Gimme?

You should try to get a job at The Scum, not even interviewed & we're mocking him  :D
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: wbarenno on May 05, 2012, 10:19:27 AM
can you imagine if we got ranieri in :o :o cant see it happening but just imagine :P :P
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: smethwickw on May 05, 2012, 10:29:41 AM
What on earth makes people think we could attract an ex Inter Milan manager?   :P
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: hardtobeat on May 05, 2012, 10:59:38 AM
Just a thought but why would he be heading up for an interview.Isn't this the type of thing we rented the London office for?
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: silver surfer on May 05, 2012, 11:01:49 AM
Who would have thought Inter Milan would be a feeder club to WBA for managers?

It would really put us in the media spotlight if he we landed him, if its true that he is even interested in the job that in itself is an endorsemnet of our standing at present.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Standaman on May 05, 2012, 11:02:01 AM
Just a thought but why would he be heading up for an interview.Isn't this the type of thing we rented the London office for?

Good point really not setting much store by the current flurry of rumours.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Albion79 on May 05, 2012, 11:08:55 AM
I think its all rumour at the moment and it would appear publicly anyway its been said that we wont do anything for a couple of weeks, that said this is JP and he has sprung a surprise before!

Ranieri would definitely generate massive excitement and interest, i would love it if he came here, realistically i still cant help but think it just wont happen but....

He has said he wants to come back to England - Man Utd, Arsenal, Liverpool, Tottenham, Newcastle all wont be changing managers, Man City its unlikely but even if they do i couldnt see it being Ranieri, same for Chelsea, they sacked him once before.

That moves down the table to Sunderland (O Neill), Everton (Moyes), Fulham (Jol), Stoke (Pulis), Norwich (Lambert), Swansea (Rodgers) all those would appear pretty secure jobs so nothing doing there, the two clubs who are going to be looking for managers seem to be us and the Villa, and in present circumstances is there much difference between the two clubs? They are no longer the big spenders they were and would appear they are cutting back unless Randy decides at another push, so on the above is Ranieri so unrealisitic? I had thought so but weighing up the above it may not be the case, same with some other managers.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: east-stand-nick on May 05, 2012, 12:59:29 PM
I think people are getting far too excited. It's just rumour fuelling rumour.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: ian on May 05, 2012, 01:37:11 PM
Just been listening to raneiri on espn i think he is here for an interview reading between the lines he would not be a disaster of an appointment in my opinion even if he is a tinkerman
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Standaman on May 05, 2012, 01:39:38 PM
Just seen a tweet that says Ranieri all but confirms his interest in the Albion job on ESPN has anyone seen the relevant interview? Does he know that he will have no money to spend? Does he know that we aren't a London based club? Am I dreaming?
 
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: sooty2 on May 05, 2012, 01:41:26 PM
just seen the same interview looks like there might be something in this clubs stock is starting to rise ????
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Londonbaggymike on May 05, 2012, 01:55:19 PM
just seen the same interview looks like there might be something in this clubs stock is starting to rise ????

Been on the ESPN website but can't find any mention of the interview. Anyone got a link to it?
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Pseudo_Intel on May 05, 2012, 02:01:26 PM
Just seen a tweet that says Ranieri all but confirms his interest in the Albion job on ESPN has anyone seen the relevant interview? Does he know that he will have no money to spend? Does he know that we aren't a London based club? Am I dreaming?

Lol what is going on haha
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: wba1993dave on May 05, 2012, 02:03:40 PM
Apprantley the Espn presenter asked would he be intrested in the wba job, ranieri said if its a good project why not. :P lol
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Dudleylad on May 05, 2012, 02:07:09 PM
I think it shows just as sooty has just mentioned how our stock has risen in the last few years.

If it is to be The Tinkerman I would be estatic
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: VANDERLEI on May 05, 2012, 02:11:32 PM
I just watched the comment from Ranieri. The way he responded seemed to indicate to me that he is going to be our next manager. He certainly made no effort to distance himself from the question and actually stated that 2:1 was a good price and that Kelly Dalglish should have a bet on it. Whether it was said in jest is another matter but it didn't seem that way. I am fairly convinced he'll be our next manager after the betting patterns have panned out in addition to his apparent enthusiasm about the job.

I think it shows just as sooty has just mentioned how our stock has risen in the last few years.

If it is to be The Tinkerman I would be estatic

Me too mate. Any Albion fan that isn't excited about Ranieri becoming our manager is completely off their head and living in another reality.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: JBullyWBA on May 05, 2012, 02:28:02 PM

Me too mate. Any Albion fan that isn't excited about Ranieri becoming our manager is completely off their head and living in another reality.

Despite the fact that he tends to spend a lot of money wherever he goes, i can't help but be excited.
He has a win % of at the very least 41% since he had the Chelsea job in 2000. His best being 57% at Roma.
I think he'll have seen how Roy and Di Matteo have gone on to get bigger jobs after leaving us and I reckon he'll still be smarting from Inter and likes the prospect of the Premier League. Peace on the other hand will be a massive hurdle for him, whether he can live with our wages/transfer funds only he can know.
While I'd love Ranieri and there is a chance, my money would still (and has) go for Hughton to be our next manager, especially as Blackpool did us a favour last night.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Moggas barmy army on May 05, 2012, 02:30:01 PM
I'd be over the moon with the tinkerman. Would be a wonderfull appointment and really shows the stock of the club. Who the hell thought we could have attracted people like Hodgeson and Ranieri to the club 10 years ago
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: HampshireBaggie on May 05, 2012, 02:34:58 PM
The pessimist in me has come up with potential issues with Ranieri

- Will we pay his wages?
- Will he be willing to work under such tight budget restrictions?
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Dan on May 05, 2012, 02:38:40 PM
The pessimist in me has come up with potential issues with Ranieri

- Will we pay his wages?
- Will he be willing to work under such tight budget restrictions?

Someone mentioned he was on 1.3m at Inter on one of the other pages, which I expect Hodgson must have been  close too.

Still, given his career history I find it hard to believe he'd be overly interested in the Albion job. Parma are the only club he's been at in well over a decade who aren't absolutely massive.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Londonbaggymike on May 05, 2012, 02:39:10 PM
The pessimist in me has come up with potential issues with Ranieri

- Will we pay his wages?
- Will he be willing to work under such tight budget restrictions?

And can he do it on a tight budget?
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: HampshireBaggie on May 05, 2012, 02:49:05 PM
And can he do it on a tight budget?

I don't doubt that. I have any issues with his ability, he is a first class manager. Just his willingness once he sits down with Peace.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: HampshireBaggie on May 05, 2012, 02:49:56 PM
I think it is really important the board move quickly to get a new manager in place. I'm sure there will be 1 or 2 more premier league jobs up for grabs in a few weeks.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Londonbaggymike on May 05, 2012, 02:52:53 PM
I think it is really important the board move quickly to get a new manager in place. I'm sure there will be 1 or 2 more premier league jobs up for grabs in a few weeks.

At bigger clubs too (hate to say it) but a team like Villa are ahead of us in the pecking order even though below us in the league. (Feel dirty now!)
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: VANDERLEI on May 05, 2012, 03:04:15 PM
At bigger clubs too (hate to say it) but a team like Villa are ahead of us in the pecking order even though below us in the league. (Feel dirty now!)

Disagree with that completely mate. A few years ago this was the case but their chairman is reluctant to spend now while we are going from strength to strength. I wouldn't be too surprised if we splash a decent amount of cash this year with a top manager being priority. Hodgson has proved that it can be money very well spent and the comments from the club about a contigency plan seem to suggest we now realise the importance of having a manager that knows what he is doing at the helm. I can see Ranieri coming in and being given a sizeable transfer kitty, not a massive one, but enough to add quality to our already attractive squad.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: wba1993dave on May 05, 2012, 03:06:54 PM
Just shows you how far we have come, from the days of Aidy Boothroyd, Mike Newell being linked with the job we now how the likes of Ranieri being linked ;D. If we could get Ranieri then i will be a very happy baggie.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: sooty2 on May 05, 2012, 03:11:45 PM
heard something a hour ago tony mowbray just looked on odds checker maybe something in it heard 2nd hand from championship manager
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Post by: JBullyWBA on May 05, 2012, 03:12:04 PM
At bigger clubs too (hate to say it) but a team like Villa are ahead of us in the pecking order even though below us in the league. (Feel dirty now!)

He managed Parma who were in a relegation battle and have been a yo-yo club for years after he was sacked at Valencia. If he does come to us, it'll be to rebuild his reputation after his time at Inter. He'll have noticed how Roy recovered from his time at Liverpool with us and might just do the same. Maybe DA and JP could sell the prospect to him, Lerner seems reluctant to do anything that will cost him money these days.
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Post by: VANDERLEI on May 05, 2012, 03:16:06 PM
Latest Odds on Next manager......

(http://i47.tinypic.com/10ckun5.jpg)
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Post by: up_the_baggies on May 05, 2012, 03:34:22 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLR5esEK90Q&feature=youtube_gdata

Was there more to it than that?
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Post by: Baggies on May 05, 2012, 03:37:31 PM
Id have thought that Raniri and Villa would be a more likely fit next season. Id be happy if we could get him though. Lots of big clubs seem to think he is good else they wouldnt  keep appointing him.

There are some doubts, like his ability to work on a budget, and whether we are just looking at his past jobs list and getting excited (in the last ten years, he hasnt done much with any of the teams he has been at, certainly not winning much anyway). He has lots of experience though and getting him would be a big coup, especially when you consider his last few clubs have included Juve, Inter, Roma and Valencia.
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Post by: Baggies on May 05, 2012, 03:39:50 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLR5esEK90Q&feature=youtube_gdata

Was there more to it than that?

You cant take anything from that interview. Not sure if there was more than that but it seems he wasnt giving anything away. Could just be Ranieri being respectful as ever. He isnt the sort of bloke to say "Me to West Brom? Your having a laugh arent you".
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Post by: Pseudo_Intel on May 05, 2012, 03:48:31 PM
Id have thought that Raniri and Villa would be a more likely fit next season. Id be happy if we could get him though. Lots of big clubs seem to think he is good else they wouldnt  keep appointing him.

There are some doubts, like his ability to work on a budget, and whether we are just looking at his past jobs list and getting excited (in the last ten years, he hasnt done much with any of the teams he has been at, certainly not winning much anyway). He has lots of experience though and getting him would be a big coup, especially when you consider his last few clubs have included Juve, Inter, Roma and Valencia.

Seem to recall he had an incredible run with Roma during his time there recently.
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Post by: Baggies on May 05, 2012, 03:51:36 PM
Something like 18-20 unbeaten yes. Thats the bit that gets you excited with the link.
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Post by: VANDERLEI on May 05, 2012, 03:53:49 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLR5esEK90Q&feature=youtube_gdata

Was there more to it than that?

Yeah mate, there was more to it. After the bookie talked about the odds, Kelly Dalglish asked him if 2:1 was a good price and worth a bet, he said, "yes it's a good price" with a cheeky grin on his face!
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Baggies on May 05, 2012, 03:55:11 PM
Local media seem to believe his agent has been in the touch with the club to express an interest so there may be some truth in it.
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Post by: LiamTheBaggie on May 05, 2012, 04:03:56 PM
Claudio Ranieri at the Albion? Never in my wildest dreams would I have expected something like that. I thought Roy Hodgson was massive coup for us but certainly Ranieri would be even bigger, in my opinion.

I do have some doubts, but I'd be willing to look into him. He obviously has something about him if these big clubs continue to appoint him. Would appointing Ranieri put our name about across Europe? You'd certainly like to think so. Especially considering Roy Hodgson is about to take charge of England and our ex head coach is in the champions league final.
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Post by: LiamTheBaggie on May 05, 2012, 04:05:47 PM
Local media seem to believe his agent has been in the touch with the club to express an interest so there may be some truth in it.

Do you have a link/tweet to that Baggies?
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Post by: Londonbaggymike on May 05, 2012, 04:16:26 PM
Do you have a link/tweet to that Baggies?

Check Chris Lepkowski's time-line. He mentioned it earlier today. Can't remember when as all I've done today is sit on the sofa and tweet. (@MikeReed30)

In fact it's his most recent tweet.
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Post by: LiamTheBaggie on May 05, 2012, 04:26:58 PM
Check Chris Lepkowski's time-line. He mentioned it earlier today. Can't remember when as all I've done today is sit on the sofa and tweet. (@MikeReed30)

In fact it's his most recent tweet.

Cheers for that.

I would follow you but I'm not on the twitter stage just yet. I will do eventually.

I'm delighted that Ranieri's agent has "pitched" for it though.
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Post by: kris_boing on May 05, 2012, 04:32:17 PM
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: HampshireBaggie on May 05, 2012, 04:37:32 PM
I remember his sacking at Chelsea came across harsh. Wasn't it Abramovich's first season bank rolling the club?

Whether they were Ranieri signing or not i wouldn't expect a team who bought the likes of Geremi, Wright-Phillips and Duff to win the title.
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Post by: HampshireBaggie on May 05, 2012, 04:38:38 PM
to be far he looks like he spends about 2 season at each club. How long have Mowbray, RDM, Hodgson spent here? Nature of the game now.
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Post by: charliewestbrom on May 05, 2012, 04:41:38 PM
The tinkerman?

You must be joking.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: OldburyWBA on May 05, 2012, 04:47:42 PM
I remember his sacking at Chelsea came across harsh. Wasn't it Abramovich's first season bank rolling the club?

Whether they were Ranieri signing or not i wouldn't expect a team who bought the likes of Geremi, Wright-Phillips and Duff to win the title.

He was at Chelsea before Abrahamovic came in, got them to 6th in his first season and I think maybe FA Cup final not sure. Signed Lampard for them and first season Abrahmovic took over he got them to 2nd behind Arsenal in their unbeaten season and also to semis of the Champions League.

Be a major coup if it does happen even if it is only short term until a bigger job comes up.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Dan on May 05, 2012, 04:51:19 PM
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Dudleylad on May 05, 2012, 05:15:41 PM
Im not too worried about his record of not staying too long at clubs just look at the current premier league managers and there average time at each club they have managed.

Arsenal - Arsene Wenger (Avg time in each job 7 years)
Aston Villa - Alex McLeish (Avg time in each job 3 years)
Blackburn - Steve Kean (2 years)
Bolton - Owen Coyle ( 2 years 4 months)
Chelsea - RDM (1 year 4 months)
Everton - Moyes (7 years)
Fulham - Jol (3 years)
Liverpool Dalgliesh (2 years 7 months)
Man City Mancini (3 years)
Man United- Fergie (9 years 6 months)
Newcastle - Pardew (2 years 5 months)
Norwich - Lambert (1 year 4 months)
QPR - Hughes (2 years 4 months)
Stoke - Pulis (3 years 4 months)
Sunderland - MON (3 years 8 months)
Swansea - Rodgers (1 year 4 months)
Tottenham - Arry (4 years 10 months)
West Brom - Royston (1 year 11 months)
Wigan - Martinez (2 years 6 months)
Wolves - Mad Mick (5 years)

Now if you look at some of our supposed targets

Ranieri (2 years)
Hughton (1 year 6 months)

Both fit into that bracket that most of the managers at Premier League level. I dont worry about time at clubs to be honest but more of the calibre and success they have had in jobs.

As others have said Claudio has managed most his career in a country where its common to change managers like the wind and he still averages 2 years at each club thats a very good record indeed

Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Reddiebaggie on May 05, 2012, 09:46:26 PM
Article in the Mail
     Claudio Ranieri on the train to Birmingham discusing the strengths and weaknesses of the Albion squad, probably a load of rowlocks but it's out there.
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Post by: BB74 on May 05, 2012, 10:15:28 PM
Article in the Mail
     Claudio Ranieri on the train to Birmingham discusing the strengths and weaknesses of the Albion squad, probably a load of rowlocks but it's out there.

REALLY??  :o

Well I never  ;D

Where have you been for the last 36 hours?  ;)

Anyway, I think it would be a real coup but can't help but thinking Ranieri is flirting with us the way Hargreaves did last summer.
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Post by: Greenock Baggie on May 05, 2012, 10:18:19 PM
REALLY??  :o

Well I never  ;D

Where have you been for the last 36 hours?  ;)

Anyway, I think it would be a real coup but can't help but thinking Ranieri is flirting with us the way Hargreaves did last summer.
Another one who doesnt read at least the last 3 pages of a thread before posting, tut tut ::)
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Post by: westbrom4ever on May 05, 2012, 10:19:16 PM
Ranieri is an awful manager, I'd rather Steve Bruce than him.
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Post by: Greenock Baggie on May 05, 2012, 10:20:35 PM
Ranieri is an awful manager, I'd rather Steve Bruce than him.
Wheres that big key.............................windup surely !
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Post by: Reddiebaggie on May 05, 2012, 10:22:55 PM
REALLY??  :o

Well I never  ;D

Where have you been for the last 36 hours?  ;)

Anyway, I think it would be a real coup but can't help but thinking Ranieri is flirting with us the way Hargreaves did last summer.
Sorry I have just got back from Denmark, I read the article on the plane and thought I was being quite original. Alway the last one at the party.
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Post by: Greenock Baggie on May 05, 2012, 10:29:00 PM
Sorry I have just got back from Denmark, I read the article on the plane and thought I was being quite original. Alway the last one at the party.
Isnt that the way Millichip found out Atkinson was going to United pmsl, what goes around............ :P
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: rajesh-wba on May 05, 2012, 10:30:25 PM
Ranieri is an awful manager, I'd rather Steve Bruce than him.

Ranieri has only managed Atletico Madrid, Valencia, Juventus, AS Roma, Inter and Chelsea, whereas Steve Bruce has managed giants like Wigan Athletic, Huddersfield, Crystal Palace and Birmingham. I see where you are coming from!
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: LegendOfAstle on May 05, 2012, 10:33:19 PM
Ranieri has done nothing in his career to merit managing us. He has been an in between man for his entire life. He has won nothing his entire life and with no experience at a club like ours i fear the worst.

We NEED experience in the prem more than anything.
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Post by: LegendOfAstle on May 05, 2012, 10:34:47 PM
Ranieri has only managed Atletico Madrid, Valencia, Juventus, AS Roma, Inter and Chelsea, whereas Steve Bruce has managed giants like Wigan Athletic, Huddersfield, Crystal Palace and Birmingham. I see where you are coming from!

He has managed them yes. But what has he done at them? tell me that please?
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Post by: westbrom4ever on May 05, 2012, 10:37:30 PM
Ranieri has only managed Atletico Madrid, Valencia, Juventus, AS Roma, Inter and Chelsea, whereas Steve Bruce has managed giants like Wigan Athletic, Huddersfield, Crystal Palace and Birmingham. I see where you are coming from!

Disagree raj, there is a reason he has managed so many clubs and it's not because he is a good manager.
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Post by: LegendOfAstle on May 05, 2012, 10:40:03 PM
Well that's the point isn't it raj, if Ranieri was so good why would he of managed so many clubs? Atletico Madrid, Valencia, Juventus, AS Roma, Inter and Chelsea - all top clubs yet all sacked him, why ? what makes you think he would be good for us?
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Post by: GrGr on May 05, 2012, 10:48:38 PM
Disagree raj, there is a reason he has managed so many clubs and it's not because he is a good manager.

Your logic doesn't add up. Look at Roy's record. Between 2004 and 2006 he was the manager of mighty Viking Stavanger.
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Post by: rajesh-wba on May 05, 2012, 10:50:44 PM
Ranieri has done nothing in his career to merit managing us. He has been an in between man for his entire life. He has won nothing his entire life and with no experience at a club like ours i fear the worst.

We NEED experience in the prem more than anything.


I'm not for one minute heralding, Ranieri as a world-class Coach/Manager. If he was, would he be linked with West Bromwich Albion? He has had four years experience managing in the Premier League. Many of the  core players he signed went on to win the title under Mourinho.

To be fair, he was brought in as a "firefighter" at Parma. There he was successful in keeping them in Serie A, before departing to Juventus.
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Post by: rajesh-wba on May 05, 2012, 10:55:22 PM
He has managed them yes. But what has he done at them? tell me that please?

Could I play devils advoate here for a minute Astle? I don't generally like comparing Coaches/Managers, as circumstances dictate different situations at certain clubs. But as a whole career, Ranieri's win percentage is generally very good. What has he done? What could he have done? If you mean winning trophies, than realistically how many teams can win a League Title? Also does Hodgson's titles which he won in Sweden and Denmark, (compartively 'weaker' leagues than Spain, Italy and England), mean he is a more successful coach?
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Post by: GrGr on May 05, 2012, 10:56:14 PM
Those core players Raineri introduced into the Chelsea first team include Frank Lampard, John Terry and Peter Cech.

Looking at his career Raineri actually seems to do well with lesser clubs like us.
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Post by: rajesh-wba on May 05, 2012, 10:57:37 PM
Disagree raj, there is a reason he has managed so many clubs and it's not because he is a good manager.

Fair enough. Your entitled to your reasoning. You do realise Hodgson has coached over 20 teams in his 36 year career? Just because Coaches move around, it doesn't neccesarily mean they are poor, in my opinion. You also have to take into account that both Spain and Italy, are pretty volatile places for Coaches.
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Post by: LegendOfAstle on May 05, 2012, 10:57:57 PM
Your logic doesn't add up. Look at Roy's record. Between 2004 and 2006 he was the manager of mighty Viking Stavanger.

Your spot on there. But what that doesn't also guarantee is that he would do what roy did here. I would much rather someone whose been there and done it before in the premiership, rather than a failed manager in the top leagues of europe.
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Post by: LegendOfAstle on May 05, 2012, 10:58:51 PM
My last post would also answer raj's.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: LegendOfAstle on May 05, 2012, 11:01:17 PM
Those core players Raineri introduced into the Chelsea first team include Frank Lampard, John Terry and Peter Cech.

Looking at his career Raineri actually seems to do well with lesser clubs like us.

Where in his career has he managed a "lesser club like ours" as you said? apart from Cagliari in 1988?
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Post by: rajesh-wba on May 05, 2012, 11:03:06 PM
Well that's the point isn't it raj, if Ranieri was so good why would he of managed so many clubs? Atletico Madrid, Valencia, Juventus, AS Roma, Inter and Chelsea - all top clubs yet all sacked him, why ? what makes you think he would be good for us?

I couldn't give you an in depth answer into the reasonings as to why he was sacked at each individual club. But in simple terms, he may failed to achieve the target that was set. Like I've stated before Italy and Spain, are pretty volatile countires, where managerial changes occur very frequently.

What makes me think he would be good for us? I think he has the desire to come back to England and do well. Judging from his recent interviews, he has a burning desire to coach/manage in England. I think what would also benefit him, is working alongside Dan Ashworth. I'm not saying he would be a definite success. Who knows? But I think it's incredibly harsh to tar his managerial record. Many could disect Roy Hodgson's and say he won his trophies in 'weak' leagues.
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Post by: rajesh-wba on May 05, 2012, 11:04:34 PM
Where in his career has he managed a "lesser club like ours" as you said? apart from Cagliari in 1988?

Parma were struggling 2007. Simialr situation to when Roy arrived here. They survived, and Ranieri moved to Juventus.
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Post by: LegendOfAstle on May 05, 2012, 11:08:40 PM
Raj, the difference between roy and ranieri is that roy has been there and done it before (mostly the example best noted with fulham) with lesser clubs and got the best out of them - and improved them.

I'm not saying Ranieri wouldn't do well here, all i am saying is that i would rather a "been there and done that" manager than someone who clearly hasn't.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: pattayabaggie on May 05, 2012, 11:09:10 PM
To be fair to Jeremy Peace he always seems to find the right man at the right time for us so i fully support whoever he decides to bring in would much rather it be Hughton though COYB!!!
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Post by: rajesh-wba on May 05, 2012, 11:12:52 PM
Raj, the difference between roy and ranieri is that roy has been there and done it before (mostly the example best noted with fulham) with lesser clubs and got the best out of them - and improved them.

I'm not saying Ranieri wouldn't do well here, all i am saying is that i would rather a "been there and done that" manager than someone who clearly hasn't.

Fair enough Astle. I do actually see where your coming from and note your reservations. My main point was I think it's harsh to label him as a poor manager because he has managed a number of clubs. His longest spell was Chelsea for four years. Hodgson's longest spell was also around that figure I believe (Halmstads or Malmo).
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Post by: boinging_along on May 06, 2012, 12:00:34 AM
Disagree raj, there is a reason he has managed so many clubs and it's not because he is a good manager.

He's managed around the same number of clubs as Roy.  Do you consider Roy not a good manager?

Just to add, things like "he's managed lots of clubs" and "he's only managed teams better than Albion" aren't good reasons to overlook a manager.  You could argue that Bruce has been there and done it with average teams in the Prem, no way would I want Bruce.  You don't get a CV like Ranieri without being a very good manager.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: east-stand-nick on May 06, 2012, 03:03:11 AM
Ranieri has done nothing in his career to merit managing us. He has been an in between man for his entire life. He has won nothing his entire life and with no experience at a club like ours i fear the worst.

We NEED experience in the prem more than anything.

You recommended Paul Jewell. Make your mind up.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: WBArgo on May 06, 2012, 04:05:05 AM
Ranieri did very well with Chelsea if I recall, especially in their final season before Abromavich came along.

At the time, Chelsea were in a financial mess, and rumours were they'd be the next Leeds. With a non-existent budget and aging players such as Hasselbaink and Zola, he managed to push them into 4th, which helped the attraction of Abromavich.
Yes - he hasn't won a cup, but he did a lot for Chelsea in that year.
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Post by: Rich99 on May 06, 2012, 08:49:56 AM
Ranieri did very well with Chelsea if I recall, especially in their final season before Abromavich came along.

At the time, Chelsea were in a financial mess, and rumours were they'd be the next Leeds. With a non-existent budget and aging players such as Hasselbaink and Zola, he managed to push them into 4th, which helped the attraction of Abromavich.
Yes - he hasn't won a cup, but he did a lot for Chelsea in that year.

Yes, if I remember rightly he was very popular when he left and the majority of Chelsea fans didn't wish to see him go.  He had them playing some decent football too.

Speaking about his playing style though,  he has got stick at times at Inter by some for playing a defensive game.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: baggiejules on May 06, 2012, 09:47:58 AM
Can't believe some people aren't excited by the prospect of being managed by a manager with the calibre of Ranieri. He laid down the foundations for where Chelsea are today, almost won Serie A with Roma not long ago and has consistently got his sides into Europe.

Yes he did a poor job with Inter but that will just go to show that he has something to prove much like Hodgson when he came after the Liverpool saga. Quite honestly I still can't quite believe that this could be an actual possibility and if Peace & Ashworth pull it off it will be a major coup!
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Post by: wbarenno on May 06, 2012, 09:52:07 AM
Can't believe some people aren't excited by the prospect of being managed by a manager with the calibre of Ranieri. He laid down the foundations for where Chelsea are today, almost won Serie A with Roma not long ago and has consistently got his sides into Europe.

Yes he did a poor job with Inter but that will just go to show that he has something to prove much like Hodgson when he came after the Liverpool saga. Quite honestly I still can't quite believe that this could be an actual possibility and if Peace & Ashworth pull it off it will be a major coup!

This this this!

Anyone who questions any kind of talk of ranieri must be mad.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: tipton baggie 80 on May 06, 2012, 12:28:18 PM
Views on respective managerial considerations from our 'friends' in staffordshire...

http://www.molineuxmix.co.uk/vb/showthread.php?t=72005

 ;D
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Post by: NethertonBaggie on May 06, 2012, 12:40:57 PM
Awwwww bless there little cotton socks, there finaly starting to realise that there little club isnt as important as we are!
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: LegendOfAstle on May 06, 2012, 01:07:21 PM
The main thing i would be worried about with Ranieri is the fact he wont be around for long. Like roy, he moves from club to club for various reasons.

Do we want another roy who will stay for 1 season and do well (potentially)? or Do we want to find a long term manager who can sustain our current position?

My worry is, that although this might work for another season or 2 going down this route, in the end it will catch up on us.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: westbrom4ever on May 06, 2012, 01:10:32 PM
If we were to employ Ranieri, I would hope it's a 12 month contract.

That way if he fails which I think he will, we wouldn't be left in a situation where we have to make a massive pay off which we can't afford.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: 17GD on May 06, 2012, 02:30:00 PM
I made a post earlier on this topic and it's disappeared?

I read on the 02 football page that Hughton may become the new Albion boss even if Blues go up. Hope there's some truth in this.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: addy on May 06, 2012, 02:54:30 PM
I made a post earlier on this topic and it's disappeared?

I read on the 02 football page that Hughton may become the new Albion boss even if Blues go up. Hope there's some truth in this.

I hope so, he would still be my ideal choice.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Baggies on May 06, 2012, 03:05:28 PM
Raj, the difference between roy and ranieri is that roy has been there and done it before (mostly the example best noted with fulham) with lesser clubs and got the best out of them - and improved them.

I'm not saying Ranieri wouldn't do well here, all i am saying is that i would rather a "been there and done that" manager than someone who clearly hasn't.

The "been there, done it" attribute is oing to be very hard to find. If that is the main skill set we are looking for in a manager, then Ranieri will probably get the job. Most of the managers we will be looking at WILL be inexperienced because there arent many experienced coaches out there who will come to WBA - not successful ones anyway. I think people have got a bit carried away with who we could get really.

Ranieri's career has actually taken in some smaller clubs. Parma is one example but apart from that his early career included taking a side from Serie C to Serie A.

I dont mind people saying they dont want Ranieri, and instead wanting someone like Hughton. I understand why they many want that. But we need to stop expecting experience because there arent many available.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: jonny on May 06, 2012, 04:55:12 PM
Ideal scenario. Roy given microphone at full time to say a few words and then introduces ranieri as new manager.....
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Wbahunty on May 06, 2012, 05:57:45 PM
Ranieri would be brilliant!
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: smosher34 on May 06, 2012, 06:27:49 PM
dont want him !!!!!!!!!!!! tinker of somewhere else
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: OldburyWBA on May 06, 2012, 06:39:24 PM
Struggling here to understand why someone would want a Championship standard manager in Paul Jewell who with Derby has one of the lowest points totals in Prem history over an experienced European coach who got Chelsea to 6th and the FA Cup Final before Abrahamovic came along (yes they had more money to spend than us but still)
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Dudleylad on May 06, 2012, 06:44:08 PM
Paul Jewell - The man who still thinks Ellington is Premier League standard
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Standaman on May 06, 2012, 07:11:11 PM
Another way of looking at Ranieri or any other candidate is why are they joining us? In Hodgson's case it was  obvious he wanted to get back into football with the view to getting the England job (mission accomplished) which is why his contract expired this summer.

So aside from the obvious that he is between jobs at the minute what is Ranieri's motivation? I doubt whether it is purely financial having been a top coach for over a decade I would hope he has been able to hang on to some money for his old age.

Apart from the fact that he likes living and working in England why would he take on the role? He is unlikely to win much he will be working with players a couple of notches down in quality to those he worked with at Inter. He is not of an age where he realistically harbour ambitions to use us as a stepping stone to one of the bigger jobs in English football.   

If I could figure out a why then I might believe Ranieri will be turning up at the Hawthorns, but in the meantime I will remain sceptical. 
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: BB74 on May 06, 2012, 07:16:50 PM
We are 2000/1 to get relegated next season (Paddy Power & Stan James) so if you think we are going to end up with a poor manager who will relegate us then get your quids on now!
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: GrGr on May 06, 2012, 07:18:53 PM
Why did Bobby Robson take the job at Newcastle?

Ranieri did extremely well when he was in the Premier League with Chelsea, overall Ranieri's record in the PL is far superior to Hodgson's, and Ranieri has 199 PL games to Hodgson's 276 (before joining us Roy had about the same PL experience as Ranieri). Why wouldn't Ranieri want to do a job he loves in the most entertaining league in the world? By the looks of it Ranieri does his best job when he can build teams and that is what he would be doing with us.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: OldburyWBA on May 06, 2012, 07:23:51 PM
Reality is that we are a club where a big name manager will see it as a possible step up to a bigger job and get their career back on track. In the Premier League we could realistically be the highest placed finisher looking for a manager so options for managers to get in the Prem will be limited unless they want a guaranteed relegation battle with the likes of villa.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Adder on May 06, 2012, 07:27:46 PM
We are 2000/1 to get relegated next season (Paddy Power & Stan James) so if you think we are going to end up with a poor manager who will relegate us then get your quids on now!
Have only checked Stan James but I think that's 2000/1 to win the league ..... ? I had my tenner ready 2000/1 to be relegated would be an interesting insurance bet.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Avonbaggie on May 06, 2012, 07:30:06 PM
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Standaman on May 06, 2012, 07:42:01 PM
Why did Bobby Robson take the job at Newcastle?

Ranieri did extremely well when he was in the Premier League with Chelsea, overall Ranieri's record in the PL is far superior to Hodgson's, and Ranieri has 199 PL games to Hodgson's 276 (before joining us Roy had about the same PL experience as Ranieri). Why wouldn't Ranieri want to do a job he loves in the most entertaining league in the world? By the looks of it Ranieri does his best job when he can build teams and that is what he would be doing with us.

Newcastle were his home town club and at the time still harboured ambitions to be one of the top teams in Europe. When I last heard Ranieri speak I didn't pick up on his Black Country accent and unfortunately we are at best a mid-table premier league team being 10th is not a platform from which we will spring to dominate European football.

Ranieri does not need a route back into English football his next job is an end in itself and as such I find it difficult to believe he will be our next manager, I would be delighted if he turns up at B71 but in the words of  the grumpy old gits prophet "I don't believe it"
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Post by: BB74 on May 06, 2012, 07:49:07 PM
Have only checked Stan James but I think that's 2000/1 to win the league ..... ? I had my tenner ready 2000/1 to be relegated would be an interesting insurance bet.

Correct it is to win the league! How stoopid of me  :P
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Post by: BB74 on May 06, 2012, 07:52:31 PM
Reality is that we are a club where a big name manager will see it as a possible step up to a bigger job and get their career back on track. In the Premier League we could realistically be the highest placed finisher looking for a manager so options for managers to get in the Prem will be limited unless they want a guaranteed relegation battle with the likes of villa.

We should use that as a selling point as I'm sure we tell players that prove yourself here and earn your big move.

Mowbray went onto Celtic - RDM now a potential double winning Manager at Chelsea - Hodgson just got the biggest job in international football.
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Post by: GrGr on May 06, 2012, 07:56:45 PM
Correct it is to win the league! How stoopid of me  :P

Funny, so the bookies reckon every 2000th year or so we sign Jesus to perform some miracles for us from midfield!
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Post by: LiamTheBaggie on May 07, 2012, 12:42:44 PM
http://www.espn.co.uk/football/sport/story/149452.html?CMP=OTC-RSS

Claudio Ranieri has suggested he could be open to taking the West Brom job following Roy Hodgson's appointment as England manager.
 
Ranieri, who had a spell at Chelsea between 2000 and 2004, is on the hunt for a new role having being sacked by Inter Milan in March.
 
Inter had won just one of ten league matches before his sacking, and were eighth in Serie A at the time when he left the club.
 
But despite his forgettable tenure at the San Siro, Ranieri can still point to an impressive CV, and would give consideration to adding the Baggies to the list of clubs he has managed.
 
Asked if he would like to come back to manage in England, and whether he would be receptive to an approach from West Brom, Ranieri told ESPN: "Why not? Never say never. I will listen to everything. If there is a good project, why not."
 
Hodgson will remain in charge of West Brom until the end of the Premier League season, before turning his attention to England's Euro 2012 campaign


There's the link of the ESPN website for those which were looking for it.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: wba1993dave on May 07, 2012, 12:59:27 PM
I see this going 2 ways....

1, We will play it safe and go for Hughton- I would be happy with Hughton because he did a great job at the toon and the blues considering the mess both clubs were in. He has experiance in the Premier League.And he gives youth a chance, for example Carrol at Newcastle and Redmond at the Blues.

Or

2, We go for Ranieri who no doubt is a very good manager and would get other clubs thinking that we mean buisness. But my only concern with Ranieri is will he be able to work with our current structure and with a limited budget.

I think personally,we will go for Hughton.
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Post by: wilma_carstart on May 07, 2012, 02:43:54 PM
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Post by: Dan on May 07, 2012, 02:50:13 PM
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Post by: JBullyWBA on May 07, 2012, 02:51:12 PM
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Post by: Roy of the Baggies on May 07, 2012, 02:52:52 PM
I'd like a young, ambitous manager proven in the lower leagues but new to the Prem
People like (but not necessarily including) Brendan Rogers and Paul Lambert have showed they have more desire to succeed than the likes of Hughes, Bruce, McLeish, and co....

Failing that, Roberto Martinez of Wigan would be a perfect fit for us don't you think?
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Post by: wilma_carstart on May 07, 2012, 03:06:37 PM
He didn't reject us, we went for Hodgson instead. There was an interview a few months later where he was pretty complimentary of us.

I imagine his contract is somewhat different to that of Mcleish's, so probably less compensation. The guy is in his 50's, he'll do what's best for his career, not what's best for Blues. As would any other manager. New owners doesn't necessarily mean better.

Check your facts matey, Hughton rejected albion as Peace would not allow him to bring Calderwood and Trollope with him.

where as Hodgson accepted he would work with someone elses's backroom staff. 
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Post by: jimi324 on May 07, 2012, 03:24:52 PM
where's Claudio Ranieri on this list?
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Hunnington Baggie on May 07, 2012, 03:30:02 PM
Check your facts matey, Hughton rejected albion as Peace would not allow him to bring Calderwood and Trollope with him.

where as Hodgson accepted he would work with someone elses's backroom staff. 
I believe Hughton did want to bring in his own staff. however, he did not reject, it just extended conversations and it was easier to get Hodgson. from what i've seen that is what happened. 
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Post by: OldburyWBA on May 07, 2012, 03:36:51 PM
where's Claudio Ranieri on this list?

Topic was started before Ranieri's name was mentioned.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: OldburyWBA on May 07, 2012, 03:37:44 PM
Blokes name is Hughton not Hughton. Its been mentioned enough this week  :D
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Post by: KingKoren on May 07, 2012, 03:41:58 PM
Blokes name is Hughton not Hughton. Its been mentioned enough this week  :D

Some people can't spell Hodgson so I'm hardly surprised people are spelling Hughton wrong.

Olsson is another one people frequently get wrong. Take some pride in your posts people - check your spelling. :D



 
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Post by: Hunnington Baggie on May 07, 2012, 03:43:39 PM
sorry, i hate dispraxia. ruins your grammar and spelling. takes ages to type a comment
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Baggies on May 07, 2012, 03:57:06 PM
Check your facts matey, Hughton rejected albion as Peace would not allow him to bring Calderwood and Trollope with him.

where as Hodgson accepted he would work with someone elses's backroom staff.

I understand you might be worried at the prospect of losing your manager but there is no point coming on here and being aggressive. Id also be careful not to bury your head in the sand.

Hughton was turned down by Albion. Yes, one of the problems was his backroom staff, which at the time meant buying Calderwood out of his Hibs contract (something Blues didnt need to do If I remember correctly). Hughton approached Albion though so he didnt just say "no, id rather manage a championship team, selling all of their best players, rather than a premier league team with no debt". A more experienced Hodgson was always going to get the job anyway.

As for what the future holds, neither you nor us know. If Blues get promotion then you will almost certainly keep your manager. There will be little point in him mocing. If you do stay down though I think you need to realise there is a possibility, if approached, Hughton could end up coming to the Albion

Yes, you might be getting new owners, but it isnt certain. Yes, Yeung could be found not guilty and he could come back to Birmingham and buy you Messi, Ronaldo and Rooney, but with the new financial fair play rules, maybe "sugar daddy" spending might not be as easy as before.

The uncertainty at Blues - and your future is uncertain - may be a big factor in what he decides to do. You are just as likely to be in financial difficulty next season as you are of being one of the financial power houses. If you really believe Hughton isnt keeping Albion open as an option this summer, then you really are naive.

We might not go for Hughton though. We will have to wait and see. Just be careful not to fall into the trap of some Albion fans did when Celtic came in for Mowbray. Some were surprised that a manager at a championship club where he was popular would leave to go to another club. They were naive - just like you appear to be.
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Post by: jonny on May 07, 2012, 06:25:23 PM
Also I like the comment about Ben Foster "coming home".

It's common knowledge he wants to stay, even if blues are promoted.
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Post by: Pseudo_Intel on May 07, 2012, 09:03:39 PM
http://www.clicklancashire.com/sport/wigan-athletic-fc/1212307-west-bromwich-albion-chase-wigan-athletic-boss-martinez.html?

Paper rubbish in my opinion.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: timdon on May 07, 2012, 09:10:44 PM
Most probably, but would love it to be true
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Post by: brummyroader on May 07, 2012, 09:13:26 PM
Heard on TalkSport that Ranieri is 4/7 with some bookies.
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Post by: JBullyWBA on May 07, 2012, 09:16:26 PM
It is sourced from the Mirror lads, about as trustworthy as a wolverhampton tramp.
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Post by: Quakes Fan on May 07, 2012, 09:17:13 PM
Heard on TalkSport that Ranieri is 4/7 with some bookies.

1/2 on Sky Bet.
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Post by: Bomberblueand white on May 07, 2012, 10:25:43 PM
Right they've stayed up, let's do everything we can to get Martinez in.
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Post by: jonny on May 07, 2012, 10:30:44 PM
Right they've stayed up, let's do everything we can to get Martinez in.

Definately.

I reckon he will be on Ashworths list.
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Post by: Bomberblueand white on May 07, 2012, 10:33:35 PM
Seems a perfect match and if anyone can give the big sell it will be Peace and Ashworth.
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Post by: Pseudo_Intel on May 07, 2012, 11:05:27 PM
Most probably, but would love it to be true

Likewise.

This managerial chase is getting exciting but the process is still very mysterious.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: timdon on May 07, 2012, 11:08:25 PM
My very strong opinion is that Chris Hughton will NOT be our next manager.
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Post by: wba1993dave on May 07, 2012, 11:11:56 PM
Martinez would be cracking appointment but they would want compensation. Wigan have been in the Premier League 8 seasons or so  but i think we would be a step up for him due to the fact were a bigger club and he could look at the last 2 managers here who have gone on to become a England Manager and a manager who beat Barcelona ;D Hopefully we may hear something in 2 weeks time.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: wba1993dave on May 07, 2012, 11:23:43 PM
CL - in other #wba news Tuesday's Birmingham Mail has details of albion's meeting with Claudio Ranieri. Might even already be on website  :P
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Post by: KingKoren on May 07, 2012, 11:30:39 PM
Chris Lepkowski ?
Re Ranieri talks, all quite informal and part of ongoing process. Done on a 'would wba suit him' and 'would he suit #wba' basis. No more
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Post by: spencer Baggie on May 07, 2012, 11:32:28 PM
I voted Martinez. Love the brand of football and philosophy.

I do however think Hughton would work well within our budget and would be able to motivate players.

If Blues lose tomorrow night I can see Hughton being appointed within the week.

Ranieri would be a 'big' name but I don't see him fitting with the Albion way. (budget, player/fans mentality).
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Post by: Wbahunty on May 07, 2012, 11:33:35 PM
No to Martinez!!! Massive step backwards, I just dont get why on earth we want to take a manager who has managed Swansea and Wigan, and then another manager who has managed newcastle in championship and birmingham in championship...The championship and relegation battles are no where we are.

Lets go out and get somebody who has won somthing, has lots of contacts, lots of experiance....oh someone like Roy Hodgson! Its really is starting to anoy me that people would really want Hughton and Martinez....Why??? what have they ever done to a club who is our position! Well nethier have managed one!


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Post by: wbastrollers on May 07, 2012, 11:35:24 PM
Martinez would be cracking appointment but they would want compensation. Wigan have been in the Premier League 8 seasons or so  but i think we would be a step up for him due to the fact were a bigger club and he could look at the last 2 managers here who have gone on to become a England Manager and a manager who beat Barcelona ;D Hopefully we may hear something in 2 weeks time.

Martinez has shown that he has qualities that are unique in the premier league..............loyalty, he trusts Dave Whelan, therefore, he most definately would not come to the Albion, why would he, would anyone trust JP.   
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: GrGr on May 07, 2012, 11:35:53 PM
Less than ten years ago Roy was managing Viking Stavanger, then he moved on to mighty Finland. If the new manager is talented then it doesn't matter where he comes from. Besides, Roy's mission was to keep us in the Premier League, and who is better for that job than Martinez who has proven he can do the job, plus has plenty of experience from the Premier League itself.

Just who do you see as a better, viable candidate?
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Rich99 on May 07, 2012, 11:37:48 PM
Martinez turned down the Villa job last year to stay at Wigan.  If Wigan stay up I think it fair to say he's not coming here.
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Post by: Wbahunty on May 07, 2012, 11:42:40 PM
Less than ten years ago Roy was managing Viking Stavanger, then he moved on to mighty Finland. If the new manager is talented then it doesn't matter where he comes from. Besides, Roy's mission was to keep us in the Premier League, and who is better for that job than Martinez who has proven he can do the job, plus has plenty of experience from the Premier League itself.

Just who do you see as a better, viable candidate?

I have not once felt worried being in the premier league under Roy...he has the security around him that calms player and fans who have confidence in him! The is a lot of benifits to getting an manager who has contacts as all baggies fans know. We would never have done the great escape if Robson had no links with Man United and got Richardson and being that bigger name who could actract Kanu who to be quiet frank was one the best players ive ever seen in a Albion shirt.

Martinez has links to Swansea where he is hated and Wigan....Brilliant!

There are so many reason why I dont want him, and if your looking for an answer to your question....AVB Benitez and Ranieri....and id like to point out i never though Roy was a Viable option a season and a half ago because i thought he was too big for us!
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Post by: boinging_along on May 07, 2012, 11:46:48 PM
Didn't Megson sign Kanu?
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Post by: KingKoren on May 07, 2012, 11:48:13 PM
Martinez's reputation is sky high at the moment. I don't think is a viable option for us at all.

We could do with a talented coach who is desperate to enhance or recover their damaged reputation by working here. Consequently it may increase the odds of it being a shorter term job, but I don't think that is particularly poignant.

Hughton and Ranieri are the stand out candidates for me currently. (obviously we don't know all the candidates.)
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Post by: Wbahunty on May 07, 2012, 11:50:57 PM
Didn't Megson sign Kanu?

Proberbly...im shatterd and was trying to think of weather to mention Campbell or Kanu lol

Off to bed, but no manager who is a backwards step for me!
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Standaman on May 08, 2012, 12:12:10 AM
Ranieri story from the Birmingham Mail

http://www.birminghammail.net/birmingham-sport/west-bromwich-albion-fc/west-bromwich-albion-fc-news/2012/05/07/west-brom-albion-hold-talks-with-ex-chelsea-boss-claudio-ranieri-97319-30920663/

Initial discussions nothing concrete and given that he is unemployed one of the easier managers to talk to so we would be mad not to. I still think this is unlikely.

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Post by: wba1993dave on May 08, 2012, 12:16:28 AM
It also said in that article the club want a manger in place by the end of May, so expect it to hot up as soon as Roy leaves.Still think were play it safe and go for Hughton. Nothing wrong with getting Hughton mind :)
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Post by: TheJacko2000 on May 08, 2012, 12:20:52 AM
It also said in that article the club want a manger in place by the end of May, so expect it to hot up as soon as Roy leaves.Still think were play it safe and go for Hughton. Nothing wrong with getting Hughton mind :)

I'm still concerned about how we outplayed Hughton's Newcastle side in all three games of their Championship season... Not sure he'll bring the football people will demand. To a certain extent we put up with direct football because we know Roy has been there and done it. Not sure Hughton would receive the same forbearance.
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Post by: KingKoren on May 08, 2012, 12:25:22 AM
Ranieri story from the Birmingham Mail

http://www.birminghammail.net/birmingham-sport/west-bromwich-albion-fc/west-bromwich-albion-fc-news/2012/05/07/west-brom-albion-hold-talks-with-ex-chelsea-boss-claudio-ranieri-97319-30920663/

Initial discussions nothing concrete and given that he is unemployed one of the easier managers to talk to so we would be mad not to. I still think this is unlikely.


True we could just be doing due diligence.

"Baggies officials arranged a meeting after his name had been put forward to them by agents acting on his behalf."

Surely this highlights he is enthusiastic to meet us and discuss a potential deal though. He actively is approaching us to explore the possibility of a role here. We aren't an affluent club and I don't see what would seriously attract him here or make him pursue us. I suppose the main concern is he maybe using us to broadcast his availability to the rest of the football world - perhaps a cynical perspective - when you consider he did hold discussions, his agent could of merely linked him to us in the press.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Standaman on May 08, 2012, 12:36:35 AM
I'm still concerned about how we outplayed Hughton's Newcastle side in all three games of their Championship season... Not sure he'll bring the football people will demand. To a certain extent we put up with direct football because we know Roy has been there and done it. Not sure Hughton would receive the same forbearance.

To be honest I am not sure if that is Hughton's preferred style or rather he was adopting the style because it was best suited to the players he had i.e. Carroll Nolan and Amiobi (didn't he lose Ben Arfa after a few games with a broken leg ?).

Although I would prefer to see free flowing football I still think the club is at a point in it's development where solid organisation and graft will keep us in the Division a pragmatic approach is required.
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Post by: GrGr on May 08, 2012, 12:38:57 AM
You can have solid organization and graft with good football, they complement each other. The top teams work bloody hard at the defensive side of the game.
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Post by: TheJacko2000 on May 08, 2012, 12:40:31 AM
To be honest I am not sure if that is Hughton's preferred style or rather he was adopting the style because it was best suited to the players he had i.e. Carroll Nolan and Amiobi (didn't he lose Ben Arfa after a few games with a broken leg ?).

Although I would prefer to see free flowing football I still think the club is at a point in it's development where solid organisation and graft will keep us in the Division a pragmatic approach is required.

GrGr got in before me, the two aren't mutually exclusive, we can still play the same way we do now, but without our centre halves constantly lumping it forwards (or giving it away)
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Standaman on May 08, 2012, 12:41:31 AM
True we could just be doing due diligence.

"Baggies officials arranged a meeting after his name had been put forward to them by agents acting on his behalf."

Surely this highlights he is enthusiastic to meet us and discuss a potential deal though. He actively is approaching us to explore the possibility of a role here. We aren't an affluent club and I don't see what would seriously attract him here or make him pursue us. I suppose the main concern is he maybe using us to broadcast his availability to the rest of the football world - perhaps a cynical perspective - when you consider he did hold discussions, his agent could of merely linked him to us in the press.

It is not a secret, it seems an awful lot of effort for some unnecessary publicity. I think he is genuinely interested in a return to England but I think he would prefer a club with a bit higher profile than ourselves. 
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Post by: KingKoren on May 08, 2012, 12:50:19 AM
It is not a secret, it seems an awful lot of effort for some unnecessary publicity. I think he is genuinely interested in a return to England but I think he would prefer a club with a bit higher profile than ourselves. 

I certainly believe he would want to be at a higher profile club than ourselves eventually. I have no problem with that, it emphasises his impressive reputation and reveals his ambition hasn't diminished. It's about how he would want to achieve that objective; he could either accomplish that goal by taking the job and being successful (I.e Roy)or just waiting around for a bigger club to come for him (might not happen.) We could facilitate his eventual departure with a short-term contract, like Roy's, or include clauses so if a bigger club came in both parties could benefit.

I am getting ahead of myself I know, but I don't think we should necessarily rule it out. It would be interesting to know how the discussions went.
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Post by: TheJacko2000 on May 08, 2012, 12:58:59 AM
I certainly believe he would want to be at a higher profile club than ourselves eventually. I have no problem with that, it emphasises his impressive reputation and reveals his ambition hasn't diminished. It's about how he would want to achieve that objective; he could either accomplish that goal by taking the job and being successful (I.e Roy)or just waiting around for a bigger club to come for him (might not happen.) We could facilitate his eventual departure with a short-term contract, like Roy's, or include clauses so if a bigger club came in both parties could benefit.

I am getting ahead of myself I know, but I don't think we should necessarily rule it out. It would be interesting to know how the discussions went.

Have we not offered one year rolling contracts to our last two managers? No brainer for me get Claudio on a similar deal.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: KingKoren on May 08, 2012, 01:07:26 AM
Have we not offered one year rolling contracts to our last two managers? No brainer for me get Claudio on a similar deal.

Yes apart from Roy who had an 18 month deal. I believe Roy had a substantial financial bonus for keeping us up in the Premiership (1.5million allegedly). I don't see why we can't offer a significant reward based contract to lure a high class coach in and ensure they are/Claudio is ;D determined to succeed.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: graka on May 08, 2012, 01:34:59 AM
i think the ball will start rolling once blues future is decided. nothing wrong with ranieri throwing his name forward, wouldnt hurt to speak to him see how he sees his future. hughton is the safer bet and most would be happy i reckon
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Standaman on May 08, 2012, 01:38:04 AM
GrGr got in before me, the two aren't mutually exclusive, we can still play the same way we do now, but without our centre halves constantly lumping it forwards (or giving it away)

No argument from me however I have witnessed the extreme defensive naivety of the Mowbray era and some of Wigan's performances and I do not want to lose our new found defensive stability. One of the reasons that Swansea have been successful is because the free flowing football is underpinned by a well drilled defense they work extremely hard when they are out of possession. Unfortunately Rodgers will not be our next coach.

Hodgson spent his time here sorting us out defensively something neither DiMatteo or Mowbray ever quite achieved and I think the quality of the football suffered at times but it was what needed to be done. I want a coach who is pragmatic ideally one that has a plan b and if parking the bus is what is needed is not ashamed to do it.

Personally I think Poyet might be a good shout as he probably strikes a balance between the two approaches. Aside from a couple of monumental stuffing's Brighton have allied a passing game with a fairly sound defense.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: 17GD on May 08, 2012, 09:08:04 AM
http://www.expressandstar.com/sport/west-bromwich-albion-fc/2012/05/08/west-brom-hold-talks-with-claudio-ranieri/

Just came across another Ranieri story from 8am this morning. Quite interesting.

I'd be happy with Ranieri, Martinez or Hughton. In fact, I'd be very happy with Ranieri as his international contacts would be great news for WBA.

Gaining a Head Coach like Ranieri would be another big-name appointment and would no doubt raise our profile further. I was intruiged by the way Ranieri's agent contacted WBA, and not the other way around. Excellent news.  :)
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: kris_boing on May 08, 2012, 10:04:04 AM
I'm not convinced we'll get Ranieri.  Think he'll command a higher wage than we can afford and probably want a  bigger transfer kitty also.
 
Also not convinced hes right for us.  The positives are that he's a name that will attract players and he has worked at the top level of European football but can he work on a budget and get the best out of a mid-table quality of player?
 
Just cant see it.
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Post by: AidantheBaggies on May 08, 2012, 10:16:52 AM
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Post by: Hull Baggie on May 08, 2012, 10:30:43 AM
Ranieri would be massive for us, hugely experienced and must have great contacts. Of the other targets I'm just not sure about Hughton, but then I wasn't sure about Roy either!

I wouldn't want Martinez, Bruce, Curbbishly, or Poyet. Just don't think they would be a good fit for us.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: westbrom4ever on May 08, 2012, 10:31:59 AM
Fair play to Ranieri's agents, they seem to keep finding him work.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: WBAinDEVON on May 08, 2012, 10:40:34 AM
To be honest i would prefer us to play safe and go for British
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: phbaggies on May 08, 2012, 10:52:10 AM
To be honest i would prefer us to play safe and go for British
Why? I'd prefer us to go with best option regardless of nationality
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: boing_boing68 on May 08, 2012, 10:57:01 AM
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: phbaggies on May 08, 2012, 11:05:04 AM
Has he really done that good a job though, he won the second division of England with Newcastle who are a premiership team anyway and is in the playoffs with the blues which given there players is where they should be
He was very well respected as a coach at Tottenham, and under the circumstances and expectation at Newcastle in his first season as manager that was a big acheivement to be fair, and if you look at the circumstances (financially) at Blues and the fact they have had a lot of games this season and a European campaign too he has done a decent job to get them in the play offs. I think they have only lost 1 game at home all season so credit where due he has been a manager for 2 full seasons and produced the goods under difficult circumstances so cant knock him at all and I wouldnt be dissapointed if we had him in charge next season. That being said I would like us to push the boat out and get Ranieri out of all the names being banded about but still early days yet.....
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: boing_boing68 on May 08, 2012, 11:12:53 AM
I totally understand what you are saying but i still think a team with "krul/harper, Steven Taylor, colocinni, Barton, routledge and Andy Carroll" or a team of "myhill, davies, Carr, Redmond, zigic, king" should be getting promoted. I still don't think he has achieved anything amazing. We will have to agree to disagree  ;D

I'd still rather have Ranieri for experience and to take us to the next level
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: HampshireBaggie on May 08, 2012, 12:16:16 PM
Ranieri over Hughton without a doubt. Its Ranieri FFS! A continental manager!
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: dangerman on May 08, 2012, 12:18:39 PM
Ranieri over Hughton without a doubt. Its Ranieri FFS! A continental manager!

But unproven at doing well at clubs with limited funds. Unlike Hughton.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: smethwickw on May 08, 2012, 12:19:23 PM
I don't get the hype over Hughton either myself. He's done a good job at Championship level but will he take us to the next level? Is he any better than RDM?
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: AidantheBaggies on May 08, 2012, 12:24:37 PM
RDM has just won tha FA Cup final and also lead Chelsea to Munich. Enough said.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: OldburyWBA on May 08, 2012, 12:47:58 PM
RDM has just won tha FA Cup final and also lead Chelsea to Munich. Enough said.

and yet left us sinking like a stone with no apparent idea how to stop it. Also brought in Reuben Reid as his signing.

Chelsea have a fantastic world class squad of players and in Eddie Newton an excellent coach not to mention a scouting system a club like ours can only dream off.
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Post by: AidantheBaggies on May 08, 2012, 01:02:54 PM
and yet left us sinking like a stone with no apparent idea how to stop it. Also brought in Reuben Reid as his signing.

Chelsea have a fantastic world class squad of players and in Eddie Newton an excellent coach not to mention a scouting system a club like ours can only dream off.

Agree but AVB wasnt doing very well with that world class sqaud
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Post by: OldburyWBA on May 08, 2012, 01:10:49 PM
Agree but AVB wasnt doing very well with that world class sqaud

AVB seemed to have been given a job to do by the owner but not much backing in doing it. RDM is well known to the players and they have had a 'pep' talk from the owner since AVBs' sacking.
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Post by: The Joust on May 08, 2012, 01:47:12 PM
Can't understand people not happy with Ranieri... Shocking.
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Post by: Jack Russell on May 08, 2012, 01:57:28 PM
The Tinkerman is a very risky road to go down
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Post by: Dudleylad on May 08, 2012, 02:02:16 PM
The Tinkerman is a very risky road to go down

Why? Im interested too see the difference in views between Hodgson and Ranieri from fans
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Post by: HampshireBaggie on May 08, 2012, 02:15:05 PM
Does anyone here really think that Ranieri would get us relegated?
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Post by: phbaggies on May 08, 2012, 02:19:38 PM
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Post by: AidantheBaggies on May 08, 2012, 02:23:05 PM
God if Raneri is a risk, who do you think a safe option is??
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Post by: gerry m on May 08, 2012, 02:27:34 PM
to me Ranieri is just the type of manager we should be looking for.
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Post by: rubyruby on May 08, 2012, 03:13:28 PM
Im not saying there arent other worthy candidates for consideration but Claudio Ranieri must be given the respect his CV deserves just like Roys was. One question I would pose is How important is past experience in the make up of a modern PL manager? If we look at the current crop Man U - Ferguson Arsenal - Wenger Everton - Moyes Stoke - Pulis Spurs - Redknapp Sunderland - Oneill Fulham - Jol Wigan - Martinez. All well established teams with established managers. Im thinking that more than ever experience is a major advantage in this cut throat environment 
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Post by: smethwickw on May 08, 2012, 03:24:37 PM
Im not saying there arent other worthy candidates for consideration but Claudio Ranieri must be given the respect his CV deserves just like Roys was. One question I would pose is How important is past experience in the make up of a modern PL manager? If we look at the current crop Man U - Ferguson Arsenal - Wenger Everton - Moyes Stoke - Pulis Spurs - Redknapp Sunderland - Oneill Fulham - Jol Wigan - Martinez. All well established teams with established managers. Im thinking that more than ever experience is a major advantage in this cut throat environment

I agree totally. We have been down the 'unproven' manager route before and it hasn't worked. Yes people could point at Rodgers and Lambert but lets see how they fair next season. Look at the current bottom 3. Connor/Kean/Coyle - fairly inexperienced. Could we risk an appointment like one of those? Ranieri would be an amazing coup. Curbishley is another that should be considered too IMO.
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Post by: rubyruby on May 08, 2012, 03:39:15 PM
But unproven at doing well at clubs with limited funds. Unlike Hughton.

I see your point Dangerman but Im not sure this is as big a factor as its often made out to be. For me its all about the coaches ability to work with the players on the training field. Ranieri may be just as good as Hughton in this respect. Its just that he has possibly had more work opportunities at wealthier clubs come his way. Often that is not all to do with football but partly to do with personal ambition.
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Post by: hardtobeat on May 08, 2012, 03:58:11 PM
Does anyone here really think that Ranieri would get us relegated?
players get you relegated more so than managers!Also he has worked in the premier league before so knows a bit about it and wouldnt be going in blind.
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Post by: Albion79 on May 08, 2012, 03:59:37 PM
I think the next appointment is huge, i had stated before if we are going to be looking at Mid Table then i would like us to be exciting to watch and that get somebody in for the long haul who will help the gradual building, put there own stamp on things - ie Karl Robinson, Poyet, Appleton, Mcinnes, etc but the risk is it goes t**s up and we drop down, another option  maybe not be as exciting but reliable manager such as Hughton or Curbishley which would probably be the safe steady appointment.

My only concern with the above is the 'name and reputation' thing, our present manager carries a lot of respect in football and i think some of our players really brought into what he did  - Foster, GMac, Ridgewell, Gera, Olsson, Fortune, Morrison and i think Long was gushing about him when he signed too and Roy seems to command that respect and of some of those players mentioned (Foster, Olsson) have indicated their decision on their future had a lot to do with Roys plans. I know other players maybe havent flourished as much, Mulumbu, Odemwingie, Brunt and thats the same with all managers some benefit others dont but i think we are at the stage where we now respected as a premiership team and to attract better players a bigger name may help us so on that basis a Ranieri would have an advantage over Hughton. Just one way of looking at things i suppose.
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Post by: Dan on May 08, 2012, 04:16:33 PM
I have to say i'm amazed that there's anyone who doesn't want Ranieri! I guess it shows how much of an influence the media has when people say they'd prefer Martinez. That's Martinez who's done significantly worse than Steve Bruce for Wigan, but gets made out to be a genius.

You don't manage the clubs Ranieri has without being a VERY good manager. It makes me laugh seeing people bring up that he hasn't won that much - a problem maybe if it was Chelsea or Man U looking to appoint a manager, for us I don't think a lack of top division titles is really a problem.
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Post by: rubyruby on May 08, 2012, 04:18:07 PM
I think the next appointment is huge, i had stated before if we are going to be looking at Mid Table then i would like us to be exciting to watch and that get somebody in for the long haul who will help the gradual building, put there own stamp on things - ie Karl Robinson, Poyet, Appleton, Mcinnes, etc but the risk is it goes t**s up and we drop down, another option  maybe not be as exciting but reliable manager such as Hughton or Curbishley which would probably be the safe steady appointment.

My only concern with the above is the 'name and reputation' thing, our present manager carries a lot of respect in football and i think some of our players really brought into what he did  - Foster, GMac, Ridgewell, Gera, Olsson, Fortune, Morrison and i think Long was gushing about him when he signed too and Roy seems to command that respect and of some of those players mentioned (Foster, Olsson) have indicated their decision on their future had a lot to do with Roys plans. I know other players maybe havent flourished as much, Mulumbu, Odemwingie, Brunt and thats the same with all managers some benefit others dont but i think we are at the stage where we now respected as a premiership team and to attract better players a bigger name may help us so on that basis a Ranieri would have an advantage over Hughton. Just one way of looking at things i suppose.

Think thats the risk right there. The PL is a pressure cooker. There seems little opportunity for relatively inexperienced managers to cut their teeth and build. I think this has to be done in lower divisions these days. My view would be that the club should try to appoint the most experienced and suitable manager it possibly can even if it has to stretch the wages for him a little. Its when things arnt going so well that this experience can be so vital in stopping the rot and steadying the ship
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Post by: Albion79 on May 08, 2012, 05:09:28 PM
I think now it would appear we seem to be seriously interested in Ranieri and Vise Versa, for me he would be the obvious choice, if he has the hunger to come to us whether its point to prove or not we should get him. Its possibly a win win for us, if Ranieri has his eyes on bigger clubs over here he would need to do a good job for us first!

If we could get say him in with a young upcoming manager from lower down and then blood them so they take over in a couple of years thats the ideal scenario, keep the continuity when it comes to promoting the youth, football style, etc but i am not sure many up and coming young managers (ie - Karl Robinson, Appleton, Mcinnes) would want to step down from being the main man to be number 2 with us, although we are on the up we are not really a Man United, Chelsea, etc!

For a safe option i think Hughton fits the bill, but not sure its as cut and dried as made out, he seems a loyal bloke and he probably has job security at Blues for a couple of years, similar to the above although we are on the up its not like jumping from Blues to one of the big 4!
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Post by: silver surfer on May 08, 2012, 05:27:19 PM
I"m sort of hoping that Blues get through to the final at least, the reason is that if they dont and we interveiw Hughton again in the next week or 2 and dont give him the job AGAIN, then perhaps he would never consider a 3rd interveiw somewhere down the line.

I would prefer Ranieri for his experience etc etc, but wouldnt mind Hughton.
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Post by: The Joust on May 08, 2012, 05:30:03 PM
I think now it would appear we seem to be seriously interested in Ranieri and Vise Versa, for me he would be the obvious choice, if he has the hunger to come to us whether its point to prove or not we should get him. Its possibly a win win for us, if Ranieri has his eyes on bigger clubs over here he would need to do a good job for us first!

If we could get say him in with a young upcoming manager from lower down and then blood them so they take over in a couple of years thats the ideal scenario, keep the continuity when it comes to promoting the youth, football style, etc but i am not sure many up and coming young managers (ie - Karl Robinson, Appleton, Mcinnes) would want to step down from being the main man to be number 2 with us, although we are on the up we are not really a Man United, Chelsea, etc!

For a safe option i think Hughton fits the bill, but not sure its as cut and dried as made out, he seems a loyal bloke and he probably has job security at Blues for a couple of years, similar to the above although we are on the up its not like jumping from Blues to one of the big 4!

Not so sure about that. It seems to me that he is out of work, we are looking for a manager, 2+2 = 4. Easy option in other words. Over the moon that he IS an option, but I would suggest there is nothing more in it than that he is out of work so is the easiest 'candidate' to start with.
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Post by: Sealandair on May 08, 2012, 05:34:09 PM
The Tinkerman is a very risky road to go down

unlike unproven kids like Appleton and McInnes who lets face it would not even have been mentioned if it wasnt for them playing for us in the past.

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Post by: zippyandbungle on May 08, 2012, 08:01:51 PM
Won't be hughton, we would be absolutely daft to upset blues when we are going to try and sign their prize asset (foster).
Additionally when we first looked at him we were still not premier established , we are now and need different things (experience) so ranieri fits the bill .
On top of all this is odds go from 33/1 to 4/11 within 3 days (poor bookie anyone?) and the club don't usually announce anything unless it's happening .
Make up your own minds but when I put the bet on I got good odds ;)
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Post by: tuamigos on May 08, 2012, 08:25:03 PM
Even experienced managers get clubs relegated.
Hodgson was a match made in heaven for us, we suited him and visa versa.
Whatever manger we get next is a punt to some extent as we're not sure if we're both suited.
I would say that Ranieri is possibly less risky than some of the names mentioned
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Post by: Baggie79 on May 08, 2012, 08:52:14 PM
You can get Martinez at 40/1 :o
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Post by: KingKoren on May 08, 2012, 09:06:32 PM
You can get Martinez at 40/1 :o

He is a completely unrealistic target that's why.
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Post by: Baggies on May 08, 2012, 09:29:42 PM
You can get Martinez at 40/1 :o

Think it's worth a bet?  ;)
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Post by: the rainbow turn east on May 08, 2012, 09:41:44 PM
Ranieri,Appleton, and McInnes need adding to the list.
I wouldnt mind seeing Michael Laudrup take the Albion job with Ranieri a close 2nd.
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Post by: Baggie79 on May 08, 2012, 09:58:02 PM
Initial shortlist of four is being suggested heavily. I would imagine Ranieri and Hughton are in there but as to any further than that nobody will stick there neck out to say at the moment. I would imagine due to the love Peace has for him and how close he was to getting the job before RDM did that Mcinnes would be up there at some level whether deserved or not.
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Post by: alex1 on May 08, 2012, 10:04:19 PM
I would not be unhappy with Ranieri. He's a very likeable bloke, but his English needs to be good enough to get his points across. i.e. alot better than Capello. The other thing is, does he know enough about players over here? You can bet if he's looking to fill a position, he will know alot more players from Serie A and the only problem with that is that there will be upheaval maybe for a couple of years whilst a new team beds in.
A safer  bet would be Hughton. Players seem to want to play for him. Football management is partly about technical and tactical knowledge, and partly about communicating with the players in the right way.  I think Hughton has got that.

If Brendan Rogers had not just signed a long contract at Swansea he could have been a serious candidate. Big thing about him is he plays the game the right way, which is important for me as an Albion fan.

Finally, knowing Chelsea as we do and their erratic owner, wouldn't be surprised to see RDM ousted soon (regardless of Champions Final result). Given his extra experience in the interim, would't be too unhappy about him getting another chance at the Hawthorns. 
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Post by: wbarenno on May 08, 2012, 10:05:46 PM
Id be over the moon with either ranieri or hughton. Any of the others i wouldnt  want or we aint going to get like martinez
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Post by: Critical Baggie on May 08, 2012, 10:09:03 PM
As much as Ranieri would be a massive coup for the club and show we really are a club going forward I just cant see it being the right match.

He's a manager used to having big budgets and big names at his disposal, often taking charge of clubs on a completely different level to Albion.

I just think a few fans need to take a step back and not get too carried away; its far too easy to get complacent and struggle like so many others have in the past. At the moment we just need somebody who can consolidate.
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Post by: wbarenno on May 08, 2012, 10:10:57 PM
Finally, knowing Chelsea as we do and their erratic owner, wouldn't be surprised to see RDM ousted soon (regardless of Champions Final result). Given his extra experience in the interim, would't be too unhappy about him getting another chance at the Hawthorns.

I wouldnt mind di matteo back either but di matteo dosent seem to me to be a bloke who would go back to a job that he was sacked from less then 2 years ago. The guy seems to arrogant to do that so i really cannot see it happening!
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Post by: TheJacko2000 on May 08, 2012, 10:26:14 PM
Wouldn't touch RDM with a s***** stick, he's gone in at Chelsea, reversed all the changes AVB made and got extremely lucky twice against Barca. Anyone could have changed their fortunes. He had no idea how to reverse the spiral we were in when he got the bullet. Of our previous managers the only one I'd consider would be Mowbray, and that would be close to a last resort.
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Post by: Baggy nerd on May 08, 2012, 10:43:30 PM
I have mixed feelings about Ranieri. He has usually had big budgets and not won much. Could he work with a smaller budget? I think he would either do really well or have a complete disaster. Hughton would probably be better if we are looking to consolidate.
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Post by: Adder on May 08, 2012, 10:49:39 PM
I would feel safer with Hughton but I'm sure whoever is appointed will be clear that they buy into the West Brom project (as Roy called it).
If JP and Dan are convined that Ranieri wants to build something at a club then he would be a real contender.
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Post by: tommcneill on May 08, 2012, 11:55:43 PM
Am I just being pessimistic thinking that pethaps Ranieri is getting himself in the shop windows using us as coverage for another bigger job?
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Post by: Vassassin on May 09, 2012, 12:26:55 AM
What are the odds on SAF? He could end up trophyless this season!
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Post by: Baggie Artist on May 09, 2012, 01:01:25 AM
I think Mackay could be a dark horse for the job, he got Cardiff to the play offs and was also a penalty shootout away from winning the League Cup. He has brought a lot of youngsters through for both Cardiff and Watford and has also done it playing decent football. If we're considering Poyet, Hughton etc., I'm sure we'd be looking at Mackay as well.
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Post by: boinging_along on May 09, 2012, 09:55:54 AM
unlike unproven kids like Appleton and McInnes who lets face it would not even have been mentioned if it wasnt for them playing for us in the past.

Yup.  I fail to see what either have done in their managerial careers so far that would have anyone confident that we'd hold our own in the Premiership.  We shouldn't offer them a job because they used to play for us, that's no guarantee they're a premier league quality manager.

Even Hughton is a bit iffy but at least has done a decent job at Brum.  RDM had a similar record as Hughton when Newcastle sacked him.  I don't think it's a gimme that Hughton is definitely the quality we need - Megson and Mowbray both took us out of the championship in a better way than Hughton might.  Don't get me wrong, I'd take Hughton ahead of the rest but if someone like Ranieri comes knocking you pay attention.

I just can't believe people are using the fact Ranieri has had a host of jobs as evidence for not signing him.  Neither did Roy.  You don't manage the teams Ranieri has without knowing what you're doing.

I see it similar to signing Roy, but I view Ranieri as an even better manager.
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Post by: boinging_along on May 09, 2012, 10:01:18 AM
Wouldn't touch RDM with a s***** stick, he's gone in at Chelsea, reversed all the changes AVB made and got extremely lucky twice against Barca. Anyone could have changed their fortunes. He had no idea how to reverse the spiral we were in when he got the bullet. Of our previous managers the only one I'd consider would be Mowbray, and that would be close to a last resort.

You don't get extremely lucky against Barca twice.  You're understating just what he's done there to turn things around.  When he got the sack from us it was just as we were getting our players back from injury and suspension, as well as having an easier run of 3 games.  At some points in Dec\Jan we were without pretty much all our back four.  Keep in mind when he got the sack he had the same number of points as Roy did this season.  That's including Roy having Foster instead of Carson, MaCauley, Ridgewell, Jones, Gera, Long, etc.  I'd be happy with RDM back.  Would prefer not to go back to an old manager (Ranieri then Hughton for me), but I'd take him ahead of Mad Mick, Bruce, Curbishley, Warnock, etc.

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Post by: kris_boing on May 09, 2012, 10:02:02 AM
Noticed Mowbray has gone down to 6-1 at William Hill and 8-1 at Ladbrokes.
 
I think hes got unfinished business at The Hawthorns.
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Post by: smethwickw on May 09, 2012, 10:15:44 AM
Am I just being pessimistic thinking that pethaps Ranieri is getting himself in the shop windows using us as coverage for another bigger job?

Wouldn't that apply to any manager with ambitions? We are always going to be a stepping stone for players / managers etc. If they leave us in a better state then they have done a good job.
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Post by: AidantheBaggies on May 09, 2012, 10:17:15 AM
Noticed Mowbray has gone down to 6-1 at William Hill and 8-1 at Ladbrokes.
 
I think hes got unfinished business at The Hawthorns.

God, i hope not. We dont want to go backwards after 2 great years in the prem. Mr Mowbray is in the past now, thanks but a big NO thanks.
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Post by: boinging_along on May 09, 2012, 10:18:48 AM
God, i hope not. We dont want to go backwards after 2 great years in the prem. Mr Mowbray is in the past now, thanks but a big NO thanks.

I wouldn't have minded so much but his "players need to be loyal" speech and then buggering off put me off.  And then his spell at Celtic was pretty poor considering he only has one team to beat a season.
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Post by: smethwickw on May 09, 2012, 10:23:04 AM
I never liked him. He should have got us promoted first season with the squad we had. OK so we won the league ( and so we should have with a very good squad) playing some great stuff but with the lowest points total for years. He's done nothing since. I thought RDM's achievements were far better.
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Post by: kris_boing on May 09, 2012, 10:51:55 AM
I wouldn't have minded so much but his "players need to be loyal" speech and then buggering off put me off.  And then his spell at Celtic was pretty poor considering he only has one team to beat a season.

The relationship with Celtic goes beyond football though.  He was always going to go there with his history.
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Post by: dan7heman on May 09, 2012, 10:54:56 AM
Ranieri would be a fantastic marquee signing by the club and would send out the right message about the clubs intentions for the future.

Fingers crossed.... Hughton was my preferred choice but Ranieri would even eclipse that.
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Post by: mank baggie on May 09, 2012, 10:56:16 AM

The relationship with Celtic goes beyond football though.  He was always going to go there with his history.
well let the judas go back there
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Post by: Dexy on May 09, 2012, 11:15:14 AM
Noticed Mowbray has gone down to 6-1 at William Hill and 8-1 at Ladbrokes.
 
I think hes got unfinished business at The Hawthorns.
As far as i remember TM and JP parted on poor terms.Not quite Megson levels but its a non starter imo.
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Post by: Albion79 on May 09, 2012, 12:12:44 PM
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Post by: tuamigos on May 09, 2012, 01:05:55 PM
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Post by: Albion79 on May 09, 2012, 01:13:26 PM
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Post by: zippyandbungle on May 09, 2012, 01:15:39 PM
In truth they spent nothing with the money coming in from the diver, Downing and Barrie
And they have to cut costs again this year , hardly appealing is it ??

On the subject of the shortlist of 4
Mine would be
Ranieri ...proven, good draw
benitez...proven , good draw
rdm...as learned and improved
Martinez proven (ish) needs a bigger club.

I dont think mcinnes will be on it regardless of his relationship with JP, Jp is a businessman and a pretty bloody good one as well..
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Post by: zippyandbungle on May 09, 2012, 01:17:34 PM
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Post by: Albion79 on May 09, 2012, 01:18:32 PM
For the record i am not saying Villa are a bigger attraction than us at the moment, at the present time we would be more appealing but they have an owner who has proved he will spend big and he can do so again if he wants (according to the local journalists he is planning to spend big again this summer which makes think Mcleish definitely wont be there) where as we dont and with certain managers that will turn their head.
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Post by: Jack Russell on May 09, 2012, 01:18:49 PM
there is no way we can compete with the Vile, they are simply massive over us.Always have been always will be.Anyone that says different is deluded
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Post by: Albion79 on May 09, 2012, 01:24:10 PM
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Post by: westbrom87 on May 09, 2012, 01:56:04 PM
Thing is, are we talking in our example about 20mill that covers just transfer fees, or wages as well.

If its just transfer fees, we'd improve our squad massively.  If its wages as well, Jp would probably only allow a couple of players from that amount, because of the usual offsetting the wages for the duration of their contract.  Thats why our budget tends to be quite small.
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Post by: Dan on May 09, 2012, 02:11:00 PM
Noticed Mowbray has gone down to 6-1 at William Hill and 8-1 at Ladbrokes.
 
I think hes got unfinished business at The Hawthorns.

Wasn't it reported that he wasn't happy here when he left anyway?

For what its worth, anyone who wants him should think again. The Mowbray of Middlesbrough plays direct football. Only he's not particularly successful at that either.
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Post by: wappingbaggie on May 09, 2012, 04:40:03 PM
Paolo Di Canio?
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Post by: CL3MO on May 09, 2012, 04:45:05 PM
Wasn't it reported that he wasn't happy here when he left anyway?

For what its worth, anyone who wants him should think again. The Mowbray of Middlesbrough plays direct football. Only he's not particularly successful at that either.

I'd be surprised if they did.

All he spoke about when he was at us was 'philosophy, philosophy, philosophy'.
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Post by: Hull Baggie on May 09, 2012, 05:48:05 PM
Paolo Di Canio?

Horrid little Fascist..wouldn't want him anywhere near Albion
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Post by: Roy of the Baggies on May 09, 2012, 06:16:04 PM
surely it has to be Martinez........his style will fit in perfectly with out current players (plus an addition or two up front)
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Post by: AlbionLegend on May 09, 2012, 06:24:55 PM
What is the fascination with Martinez? Every season Wigan are down at the bottom and then pull off a few wins to scrape to safety at the end.
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Post by: Baggies on May 09, 2012, 06:35:59 PM
And they have to cut costs again this year , hardly appealing is it ??

On the subject of the shortlist of 4
Mine would be
Ranieri ...proven, good draw
benitez...proven , good draw
rdm...as learned and improved
Martinez proven (ish) needs a bigger club.

I dont think mcinnes will be on it regardless of his relationship with JP, Jp is a businessman and a pretty bloody good one as well..

The problem is Zippy it is a bit of a fantasy list. Raneri and Martinez aren't out of the realms of possibility but, certainly in Martinez's case, the assertion that he will move to a "bigger club" and then come to us is maybe a bit of over statement of our size. Why would Martinez jump at the idea of leaving a side who battle against Relegation and will go down in the next 2 or 3 years to join a club who battle against relegation and, although are better off, are still only aiming for 10th place. He might come, but I think he will wait for an offer from an Everton, Fulham or Sunderland - a club who might make Europe.

If you put RDM and Benitez in, you may as well put Guardiola and Wenger in as well because they are all just as likely. Benitez knows if he waits he will end up at a title challenger somewhere and if RDM doesn't get the Chelsea job now, he will simply take one of the job offers from another top club who will now jump at having him.

Martinez and Raneri are outside shots at our job, but I still believe Hughton or somebody similar will be in charge next season.
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Post by: rubyruby on May 09, 2012, 06:37:27 PM
there is no way we can compete with the Vile, they are simply massive over us.Always have been always will be.Anyone that says different is deluded

Think you ll find we are doing OK this season? Bigger club yes but if your a baggies fan would you really care that much? Next few years might be interesting because at the moment I dont see Villa making much more progress than us.
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Post by: Standaman on May 09, 2012, 06:46:59 PM
Given a straight choice between ourselves and Villa I am afraid that Ranieri will choose them. While they are an awful mess right now from a coach's point of view it is not a bad time to take them over. The fans expectations have been dampened down whoever takes over will be hailed as hero just for not being McLeish. The squad isn't terrible providing that nobody thinks they are going to be qualifying for the champions league and Lerner will spend some money just to avoid the financial disaster that is relegation.

Whereas we at the Albion we are pretty much in a situation that is difficult to improve upon and there is less potential to work with.
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Post by: zippyandbungle on May 09, 2012, 06:51:38 PM
Martinez would see us as a step up (see table) and we have a system of progression in place and a very well structured club.

Are villa a bigger club, yes, god knows we have all heard about the history, however they are tightening their belts , people point out that they have spent big before so have Portsmouth and Leeds , they will not be spending big this year and will be trimming down bent out Karl Henry in .

Can't wait for next season
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Baggies on May 09, 2012, 06:52:53 PM
Think you ll find we are doing OK this season? Bigger club yes but if your a baggies fan would you really care that much? Next few years might be interesting because at the moment I dont see Villa making much more progress than us.

It all depends what Villa's plans are for next season and how this season has helped their finances.

They have had to scale back over the last 2 years financially, although the Darren Bent signing may have set them back a little.

Their player sales and transfer savings may these last few years may have put them on more of a solid foot and maybe this summer they will start to spend again, albeit it in a more sensible way. If that is the case, with a bigger wage bill, an increasing transfer fund and a solid base in the academy, Villa will be a better proposition than we are to managers.

If however they still need to make savings, then any manager will look at the 2 teams, one with a top 10 team (2 years on the trot in the central mid table positions suggests a strong team), with insignificant debt and a strong structure, and another with a team that only just survived relegation and in a mess, and they may decide we are stronger.

None of us can be sure of Villa's financial situation at the moment or summer plans. A lot will depend on that.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: rubyruby on May 09, 2012, 07:06:39 PM
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Baggies on May 09, 2012, 07:21:01 PM
Could you post the link up ruby ruby?

Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Baggies on May 09, 2012, 07:31:18 PM
Im not sure I agree with the article that much. The basic premise - that Hodgson will be hard to replace - is true.

The tone though suggested the author was looking down his nose at us. For instance, we were not the premier leagues whipping boys under Mowbray. We only finished 2 or 3 points from safety that season and out played most teams we played with the downfall of having a poor defence and having just lost 2 of our key attacking players in that summer.

I also dont agree that we  "simply will not have their pick of the kind of managers that [we] need". Yes Spurs would have had a better choice but already we have been approached by people like Ranieri as well as other foreign coaches according to the local media and I actually feel there are some good choices out there who could be worth hiring.

If you do your research, and we will have done, there will be young managers out there who are good enough. All that is required is the forward thinking of clubs in Germany and Holland. If we can find a younger manager with an open mind, then we should be able to replace Hodgson, even if the new manager does not guarantee a 10/11 place finish like Hodgson seems to.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: rubyruby on May 09, 2012, 07:41:05 PM
Could you post the link up ruby ruby?

Im not sure how you do that baggies? but the article is off a site called footballrascal.com
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: devonbaggiecjaj on May 09, 2012, 07:43:45 PM
there is no way we can compete with the Vile, they are simply massive over us.Always have been always will be.Anyone that says different is deluded
you enjoy taking the p@@ ;D
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: leeiswba on May 09, 2012, 07:59:14 PM
you enjoy taking the p@@ ;D

i agree with him to a certain extent to be fair to him. Most forieners would choose Villa over us even at this moment in time
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: popbaggie28 on May 09, 2012, 08:08:40 PM
When hodgson left Fulham i expected them to struggle but he seems to have laid some solid foundations there,Heres to hoping he has done the same with us!
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: jonny on May 09, 2012, 08:21:54 PM
When hodgson left Fulham i expected them to struggle but he seems to have laid some solid foundations there,Heres to hoping he has done the same with us!

But they have appointed well in Martin Jol.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: popbaggie28 on May 09, 2012, 08:26:21 PM
But they have appointed well in Martin Jol.
Yes they have but i still feel Hodgson laid the foundations.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: smethwickw on May 09, 2012, 08:27:00 PM
But they have appointed well in Martin Jol.

They did well with Mark Hughes too. Both reasonably high profile managers with Prem experience. Who currently available would you put into this bracket?
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: jonny on May 09, 2012, 08:34:41 PM
Yes they have but i still feel Hodgson laid the foundations.

I do agree, but they appointed well to ensure their progress continued.

We are at a crossroads now, as Fulham kind of were when Roy left them.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Mike on May 09, 2012, 08:47:41 PM
I was very keen on Hughton last week, but certainly have my reservations about him now. 
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Jack Russell on May 09, 2012, 08:57:45 PM
I said Holloway all along.His football and personality will do for me
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Mike on May 09, 2012, 09:00:08 PM
I said Holloway all along.His football and personality will do for me

I don't like him or his personality, but he's a top class manager.  Totally outclassed and out-thought Hughton over the two legs.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: east-stand-nick on May 09, 2012, 09:24:25 PM
I fail to see why a player would currently choose Villa over us? Currently we are better than them. We are moving forwards. Villa financially are in a bit of a mess. They have an inept manager. I suppose they would be willing to offer irresponsible wages though which is the key.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Mike on May 09, 2012, 09:26:25 PM
I fail to see why a player would currently choose Villa over us? Currently we are better than them. We are moving forwards. Villa financially are in a bit of a mess. They have an inept manager. I suppose they would be willing to offer irresponsible wages though which is the key.

Long term -villa are a much better prospect. 
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Jack Russell on May 09, 2012, 09:29:10 PM
We can never compete with Villa on salaries or fans
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: rubyruby on May 09, 2012, 09:57:10 PM
I said Holloway all along.His football and personality will do for me

Then get relegated because he hasnt a clue about defending
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Dexy on May 09, 2012, 09:59:18 PM
I said Holloway all along.His football and personality will do for me
5 up top/ bare at the back?......no thanks we need to keep along the lines of Roy in terms of shape and defending first in order to keep the club progressing.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: royhan on May 09, 2012, 10:00:54 PM
With Blues resigned to another year in the Championship it should now be much easier for us to attract Chris Hughton - if that is the Director's wish. Our first raid on St Andrews, however, must be for Ben Foster. It must be done immediately, though, as other clubs such as Spurs are bound to be interested.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Rich99 on May 09, 2012, 10:01:41 PM
Chris Hughton is not for me I'm afraid. 

I don't wish to see the likes of Zidic stuck up front at the Albion in a negative defensive line up.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: rubyruby on May 09, 2012, 10:06:13 PM
We can never compete with Villa on salaries or fans

probably correct but I only want players to come to WBA because they feel its the "right" club for them not because we won an auction with Aston Villa. As for fan base I couldnt careless what happens down the road. I just want to see our ground full.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: baggieheart on May 09, 2012, 10:10:11 PM
Chris Hughton is not for me I'm afraid. 

I don't wish to see the likes of Zidic stuck up front at the Albion in a negative defensive line up.

A good manager plays to a teams strengths and doesn't just pick a we play this way style.

Any sensible manager who takes over us would look to carry on as much as possible the current setup
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: addy on May 09, 2012, 10:16:42 PM
A good manager plays to a teams strengths and doesn't just pick a we play this way style.

Any sensible manager who takes over us would look to carry on as much as possible the current setup

Exactly and its not like Hughton could have gone out and bought another striker, Birmingham have not got a pot to **** in at the moment. I think all the signings Chris had to make were free?
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Rich99 on May 09, 2012, 10:17:32 PM
I think it fair to say now that there was very clearly a decent base of players at Newcastle while Hughton was there.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Rich99 on May 09, 2012, 10:20:19 PM
I don't think it just pure coincidence that both Pardew and Hughton have gained great credibility with a similar bunch of players.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: chipperclark on May 10, 2012, 07:43:09 AM
 ;D Chris Hughton now available...think he is a shoe-in now!!!
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Jack Russell on May 10, 2012, 07:45:07 AM
Yes it looks like you CH lovers could well get your wish.Out thought out played last night by my preferred choice
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: hardtobeat on May 10, 2012, 08:20:53 AM
What you saw was all he'd got. Very little of substance on the bench,to me he's made the best of an average lot,no money,transfer embargo in place = no room to manoeuvre. Their results in Europe were pretty good.For me he is still my second choice behind Poyet,i am not counting Ranieri because i have a feeling we are just being used there to gain a more high profile appointment.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: AidantheBaggies on May 10, 2012, 09:01:59 AM
Raneri for me, i wouldnt be happy with Hughton as ive never been a big fan of him. Sadly i think he will get the job, hopefully if he does he wins me over.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: sing on our own on May 10, 2012, 09:10:42 AM
I would prefer Holloway,people seem to miss that behind his silly accent and all his comedy there is a dam good manager,Hughton is a good manager and a great guy but not for me im afraid,if he comes it wouldnt dissapoint me but wouldnt inspire me much either
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Baggy nerd on May 10, 2012, 09:48:49 AM
I would prefer Holloway,people seem to miss that behind his silly accent and all his comedy there is a dam good manager,Hughton is a good manager and a great guy but not for me im afraid,if he comes it wouldnt dissapoint me but wouldnt inspire me much either

I agree that Holloway has done a good job at Blackpool but they just can't defend and we don't want to go back to the days of a shambolic defence. Hughton has done a great job at Birmingham and Newcastle in difficult situations and seems to know how to set up a team to be competitive in all matches. Hughton or Poyet for me.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: kris_boing on May 10, 2012, 10:01:49 AM
Holloways got a good thing going at Blackpool.  He likes to play the 'small club' card where they have 'no right to win games in the Premier League' etc,.  He gets the best out of players by driving home than mentality.

While I admire that I doubt it would work with us being a club who is now 'technically' an established Premier League club with expectations greater than 'punching above Championship level'.  A couple of years ago maybe, but not now.
 
Could he adapt? - possibly and I do like the football his teams play but defensively they are poor and I fear for the good work that Roy has put into team shape etc, over the last 15 months.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: BB74 on May 10, 2012, 10:06:02 AM
Holloways got a good thing going at Blackpool.  He likes to play the 'small club' card where they have 'no right to win games in the Premier League' etc,.  He gets the best out of players by driving home than mentality.

While I admire that I doubt it would work with us being a club who is now 'technically' an established Premier League club with expectations greater than 'punching above Championship level'.  A couple of years ago maybe, but not now.
 
Could he adapt? - possibly and I do like the football his teams play but defensively they are poor and I fear for the good work that Roy has put into team shape etc, over the last 15 months.

I agree, Ian Holloway and Blackpool go together well, I doubt he would emulate the same elsewhere.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: WBAinDEVON on May 10, 2012, 10:09:39 AM
Holloway is my choice but not Jeremys i suspect and most of you lot.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: JDWest_Brom on May 10, 2012, 10:11:25 AM
I think the shortlist is coming together. I feel it will be Ranieri, Hughton, Poyet plus one other from Martinez, Mackay, Rodgers or Zola. 

I don't think Curbishley, McInnes, Appleton or Holloway will be on the shortlist.

Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: kc56wba on May 10, 2012, 10:29:25 AM
I have been a Albion fan for over 40 years and have seen plenty of rubbish managers, Smith, Howe, Buckley, Gould, to name a few of them. Now that Roy is going to manage England ( which I am gutted about ) The next appointment for a manager/coach is the most important one for years, this is our third year in the Prem and we need someone who will not only keep us there but may be able to take us forward. I have seen all the names linked to coming here and I think the clear favorite is Chris Hughton and hopefully he will be the next manager, but one note of caution, our chairman must back him and for gods sake sign Ben Foster. :)
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: spencer Baggie on May 10, 2012, 10:40:53 AM
Holloway's teams can't defend. It would be like the Mowbray era all over again.

We proved that when we scored 2 goals against them with 9 men.

Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: dubliner on May 10, 2012, 11:02:00 AM
I agree, Ian Holloway and Blackpool go together well, I doubt he would emulate the same elsewhere.

Exactly, Blackpool are a mess - have a look at the murky goings on under the Oystons http://www.sportingintelligence.com/2012/03/05/blackpool-chairman-oyston-blame-me-for-11m-payment-to-my-dad-050301/

Holloway is the perfect manager for a club run like that. He is probably the very last man that Jeremy Peace would want. Hughton on the other hand seems like a perfect match for JP.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Dexy on May 10, 2012, 11:06:58 AM
Holloways got a good thing going at Blackpool.  He likes to play the 'small club' card where they have 'no right to win games in the Premier League' etc,.  He gets the best out of players by driving home than mentality.

While I admire that I doubt it would work with us being a club who is now 'technically' an established Premier League club with expectations greater than 'punching above Championship level'.  A couple of years ago maybe, but not now.
 
Could he adapt? - possibly and I do like the football his teams play but defensively they are poor and I fear for the good work that Roy has put into team shape etc, over the last 15 months.
Nail on the head,best post on here regarding Holloway.Without wanting to sound cocky imo we are beyond the underdog philosophy.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: WBAinDEVON on May 10, 2012, 11:09:59 AM
Aint it strange the Dingles want him and most of us dont, Holloway that is
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Dexy on May 10, 2012, 11:17:48 AM
Aint it strange the Dingles want him and most of us dont, Holloway that is
After the season they have had i reckon they would be happy with anybody!,actually Holloway is what they need regarding getting the best out of players at that level.Our aims should and i hope will be higher than Holloway,we need somebody to follow on from Roy not near enough change everything.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: LegendOfAstle on May 10, 2012, 11:32:26 AM
I fail to see why a player would currently choose Villa over us? Currently we are better than them. We are moving forwards. Villa financially are in a bit of a mess. They have an inept manager. I suppose they would be willing to offer irresponsible wages though which is the key.

One great season doesnt make us a bigger club or a more attractive team to play for than villa, just like one swallow doesnt make a summer. Wages, fan base, stadium, history, they have it all on us so thats 4 reasons for a start. Saying that, hopefully the vile keep the same manager for next season and go down, then we will be a more attractive prospect for any player.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: up_the_baggies on May 10, 2012, 11:36:52 AM
Couldn't see Holloway at Albion for two reasons:

1) Doesn't fit what we 'need' in a manager right now.
2) JP and Holloway?  :o

Hughton has done a fantastic job at Blues. When they went down, some were mentioning a successive relegation from the Championship this year. Instead he's had the squad gutted, and on their 62nd game of the season, has played in the play-off's.

Can he make the step up to task for us if picked? We can only wait and see if he were to get the job, but he's put up a pretty damn good showing at Blues.

Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: wba1993dave on May 10, 2012, 11:39:28 AM
I was keen on Holloway a few weeks ago but now am not so sure. He went to a decent sized club Leicester City but he got them relegated. He does play attacking football but his teams are rubbish at defending and it would be a shame if he messed up Roys good work just to score a few more goals. So i rather we go for Hughton because he is a safe option. If Hughton became our manager i am pretty sure he will carry on Roys good work, ok he might not be a big name but players respect him, and he gives youth a chance. For example Carrol at Newcastle and Redmond and Mutch from the blues.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: BobTaylor on May 10, 2012, 12:03:11 PM
More than likely going to be Hughton i would imagine not that i am disappointed.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: jonny on May 10, 2012, 03:02:18 PM
On the plus side, IF it is Hughton I imagine he would be keen on making the Foster deal permanent rather than someone like Ranieri?
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: baggie steve on May 10, 2012, 03:14:51 PM
I think that Hughton would be the most likely to continue Hodgson's great work.
He knows the premier and championship players inside out, compared to Ranieri ,
plus what Peace will like about him , he can work wonders on a budget !!
After his years at Newcastle and Blues he would enjoy working for a club that doesn't have to sell all the time.

Give him a go J.P.  ;)
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: leeiswba on May 10, 2012, 03:20:46 PM
My choice is Ranieri 100%. Wont have many chances to get a manager of this stature and quality, great opportunity for the club in my opinion
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: tommcneill on May 10, 2012, 03:23:23 PM
I was very keen on Hughton last week, but certainly have my reservations about him now.

What 1 game has changed your entire view on him...

Football has become a fickle sport...

Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: smethwickw on May 10, 2012, 03:40:27 PM
My choice is Ranieri 100%. Wont have many chances to get a manager of this stature and quality, great opportunity for the club in my opinion

I agree totally.

I see someone like Hughton as a Championship manager with potential and nothing more. Roy's boots will be very hard to fill but we need to bring someone in with good experience.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: davestat on May 10, 2012, 03:51:00 PM
Does anyone know what Ranieri actually thinks? All I have seen is that he has been approached; nothing about his response.  I fear it may not have been positive!
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: BB74 on May 10, 2012, 03:54:36 PM
Does anyone know what Ranieri actually thinks? All I have seen is that he has been approached; nothing about his response.  I fear it may not have been positive!

Managerial version of Owen Hargreaves, don't hold your breath.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: rubyruby on May 10, 2012, 03:55:10 PM
Yes it looks like you CH lovers could well get your wish.Out thought out played last night by my preferred choice

2-2................just about held on more like. yet again ably demonstrated that his teams have not got a clue how to defend
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: jonny on May 10, 2012, 03:55:44 PM
Managerial version of Owen Hargreaves, don't hold your breath.

My thoughts as well.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on May 10, 2012, 04:01:00 PM
Yes it looks like you CH lovers could well get your wish.Out thought out played last night by my preferred choice

If thats how we're playing it. Your preferred choice finished behind Birmingham City & Chris Hughton in the league, and also lost at St Andrews 3-0. Is one game really a reflection reflection? As has been pointed out, it came to the stage where Blackpool were holding on and almost fluffed their 3-0 advantage.

Since the appointment of Roy we have came along way. We've finally got ourselves a strong defensive base and we should build upon that. Eratic managers like Holloway will come along and destroy that meaning we'll probably face the problems we encounted under Tony Mowbray and Roberto Di Matteo. A manager who can follow, or at least be similar to Roy Hodgson's phillopshy would be the right choice in my opinion. An appointment like Holloway would ruin Hodgson's hard work over the last 18 months.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: leeiswba on May 10, 2012, 04:14:06 PM
Managerial version of Owen Hargreaves, don't hold your breath.

Stay till March then, win the Carling Cup and go  :-*
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Webby on May 10, 2012, 04:27:59 PM
Slaven Bilic you heard it here first ;)
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Hull Baggie on May 10, 2012, 04:30:58 PM
I've read a few comments on here saying that Ranieri may be using us to advertise his availability for a "better" job....does anyone really think that Ranieri needs to use a club like ours to attract a bigger club...surely he is well known enough to not need to do that?

Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: BB74 on May 10, 2012, 04:32:12 PM
I've read a few comments on here saying that Ranieri may be using us to advertise his availability for a "better" job....does anyone really think that Ranieri needs to use a club like ours to attract a bigger club...surely he is well known enough to not need to do that?

Could say the same for Hargreaves.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Hull Baggie on May 10, 2012, 04:41:02 PM
Could say the same for Hargreaves.

Not really the same thing 1 was a player who hadn't played for the best part of 3 years and had a lot to prove the other has managed Inter & Juventus in that time. Also I might be wrong but didn't we approach Hargreaves rather than him contacting us? from what I've read Ranieri's agent contacted us so just maybe there is genuine interest?
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Standaman on May 10, 2012, 04:42:04 PM
In all of this you have to remember who is making the appointment. JP will not want a flamboyant shoot from the hip media whore like Holloway. Solid and dependable media friendly to a point but not rent a quote and above all else willing to work within the structure and financial constraints that exist at the club. This rules out most of the old guard Ranieri being the exception because he has spent most of his career in Italy and Spain where most clubs have a director of football.

I am not sure Hughton is a shoo in unless the situation at Birmingham is set to become even more dire I feel he might stick with them, he certainly did not strike me as a man with one eye on the exit in his media interviews last night.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: popbaggie28 on May 10, 2012, 05:16:43 PM
Slaven Bilic you heard it here first ;)
are you itk?
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: hardtobeat on May 10, 2012, 05:21:08 PM
The odds on Poyet in particular :D and Hughton have shortened today whilst Rainieris have drifted.As with Curbishley earlier i would have thought if it were to be the Tinkerman things would have progressed by now as he is available immediately.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Baggie79 on May 10, 2012, 05:36:56 PM
Not to be a party pooper but is it not obvious that nobody will be announced until after the last game.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Albion79 on May 10, 2012, 05:40:30 PM
The thing with Hughton which i have said from the off, is that he seems a decent loyal bloke, he got crapped on a Newcastle and after getting a chance at Blues he may feel loyalty to them. Also he has a great reputation there and probably has employment for at least 2 years guarenteed as they have had to start again, if he had a bad year with us he would be gone. According to that Peter Pan bloke in his programme notes last night he said things arent great but not as bad as being portrayed and they have investors ready, it may be a spin but if it is true then that may affect Hughtons thinking, its his squad he has built pretty much from scratch.

Another thing, we are better than Blues at the moment but i have said before its not like leaving Blues to go Man City, although we are an attractive propoistion we have also probably reached our limit or very close too it league wise so it will be tough for whoever comes in to exceed Roystons achievements.

From JP's point of view, i imagine it would cost a few quid to buy Hughton too, the Blues will try and milk it for him which i dont blame them, that may affect JP's thinking.

Saying all the above, wouldnt surprise me he takes over!
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: baggie steve on May 10, 2012, 07:17:09 PM
Not to be a party pooper but is it not obvious that nobody will be announced until after the last game.

Maybe even longer than that, but I'm sure lots of work has already been done to nail the right man ?

Interesting that Poyet has shot up the odds league ? 7/2 with skybet.

And Webby , what gives you the thought about Bilic ? Just a notion or something you've heard ?
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Seagull on May 10, 2012, 07:39:10 PM
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: lewisant on May 10, 2012, 07:41:09 PM
are you itk?

i think he probably just read the Bilic story where he has said this Euro champs will be the 'end of his Croatia story'. Maybe putting 2+2 together
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: wba1993dave on May 10, 2012, 08:03:09 PM
Gus Poyet would be a good appointment and does have experiance in the Prem, ok only as a assistant at Spurs but so did Chris Hughton. Personally i would be ok with him but only if he could bring in a good number 2 like Ray Wilkins. I think he will be on the shortlist.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Hunnington Baggie on May 10, 2012, 08:13:29 PM
to be fair seagull, saying you won't take an offer and doing are very different. Look at Mcliesh. new three year deal, jumped ship 3 months later. Mobray too.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Baggies on May 10, 2012, 08:24:41 PM
Poyet's odds have came in because his name was mentioned in the morning papers. Local media does not seem to think that Poyet is even a starter.

I think Hughton is still the most likely. Martinez would be a nice surprise but I doubt we could get both him and Whelan to agree to it and Raneri, having already had talks, may be in with a chance.

Apart from him, I expect to see the likes of Chris Powell, Derek McCinnis and maybe a shock name from the SPL like Stuart McCall or Peter Houston mentioned, as well as a few foreign coaches, which I would see as a positive.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Albion07 on May 10, 2012, 08:29:18 PM
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Baggies on May 10, 2012, 08:30:00 PM
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Baggies on May 10, 2012, 08:34:17 PM
A lot of your fans saying we'd be a sideways step, now I've got a lot of respect for Brighton and they have a great deal of potential but to say that we're a sideways step is ridiculous.

All fans live in their own delusional bubble. WBA a sideways step from Brighton?  :o ??? Of course it is nonsense. One is a club that has spent a large part of the last 20 years in League 1 and 2, while the other is a club who have spent most of it in the top 2 divisions. One is a mid table championship club, aiming for the play offs, the other is a mid table premier league club, currently the "best of the rest" of the clubs in England if you will (not counting Fulham who still spend like they are one of the big boys).

Our fans are just as guilty of it. Just look at when Mowbray went to Celtic. Fans were saying that was a sideways or backwards step, despite it having the potential to elevate him to one of the most sought after English managers if things had gone right (something he would never have achieved at WBA).

Fans, when it comes to their owns clubs importance, usually look at things through a very skewed lens.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: geoff on May 10, 2012, 08:35:39 PM
Slaven Bilic you heard it here first ;)

A top manager who would bring with him a vast amount of knowledge of good Croatian player of all ages but would he have enough time after the Euros to get the squad ready for the start of the season he's a unlikely signing But you never know.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: WBAinDEVON on May 11, 2012, 08:21:08 AM
I wonder if Roy might have given his thoughts to the powers who to appoint has his replacement
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Mister AT on May 11, 2012, 08:36:39 AM
Wouldnt look into the bookies odds too much, we have had 3 of 4 different favourites since we've been looking.

One thing ive learnt from JP is that he makes his signings under the radar and not many things are made too public, i.e Di Matteo and Hodgson.

Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Critical Baggie on May 11, 2012, 12:22:47 PM
Andre Villas Boas has come in out of thin air today, odds shortened to small as 20's.

http://www.oddschecker.com/football/football-specials/west-brom-specials/next-permanent-manager
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: boing_boing68 on May 11, 2012, 12:28:50 PM
Now i know we won't get AVB but i'd love that! Wherever he goes next that club will do excellent
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: VANDERLEI on May 11, 2012, 12:29:04 PM
Andre Villas Boas has come in out of thin air today, odds shortened to small as 20's.

http://www.oddschecker.com/football/football-specials/west-brom-specials/next-permanent-manager


AVB will not be managing a team in this country for a good while if at all. He's obviously a talented manager but he just doesn't seem suited to English football. Maybe when he has more experience that will change, but for me , he would be a big overpriced no no.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: boing_boing68 on May 11, 2012, 12:30:09 PM
Andre Villas Boas has come in out of thin air today, odds shortened to small as 20's.

http://www.oddschecker.com/football/football-specials/west-brom-specials/next-permanent-manager

Same price as Mick
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Critical Baggie on May 11, 2012, 12:52:28 PM

AVB will not be managing a team in this country for a good while if at all. He's obviously a talented manager but he just doesn't seem suited to English football. Maybe when he has more experience that will change, but for me , he would be a big overpriced no no.

As Ive said on here before I'd never imagine him getting the job due to the budgetary constraints at the club, but from a building a successful team over time and coaching point of view, as a mold, he is the type of 'head coach' we should be looking for.   
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: WBAinDEVON on May 11, 2012, 12:58:37 PM
As Ive said on here before I'd never imagine him getting the job due to the budgetary constraints at the club, but from a building a successful team over time and coaching point of view, as a mold, he is the type of 'head coach' we should be looking for.   


I cant see it but i wouldnt say no, point to prove and all that, also no high and mighty players to deal with
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: ashcroft19 on May 11, 2012, 01:05:00 PM
From left field, Walter Smith, discuss!
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: WBAinDEVON on May 11, 2012, 01:19:03 PM
From left field, Walter Smith, discuss!


Walter Smith, now theres a new name to ponder on
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Standaman on May 11, 2012, 01:20:11 PM
From left field, Walter Smith, discuss!

Definitely left field and probably should be left there.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: solidus on May 11, 2012, 01:44:31 PM
another from the left field - luis enrique
leaving roma end of this season..
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: KnaveofAlbion on May 11, 2012, 02:17:09 PM
How about Neil Barnes of the band Leftfield...... seeing as they're being mentioned alot?

Nope!!? Well the Tinkerman gets my vote still.

As long as it's sorted in the next two/three weeks i'll be happy.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Hunnington Baggie on May 11, 2012, 02:20:29 PM
the club has said they hope to be done by the end of the month. so yeah, couple of weeks. then again that was in the rag tabs
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on May 11, 2012, 02:40:00 PM
From left field, Walter Smith, discuss!

Some folks on this board has become fed up of Roy's negative boring football so appointing Walter Smith would be even worse, in my opinion. His last stint at Rangers, although it produced four league titles, was perceived as rather negative and when they came up against Celtic, they often struggled.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Webby on May 11, 2012, 03:58:19 PM
i think he probably just read the Bilic story where he has said this Euro champs will be the 'end of his Croatia story'. Maybe putting 2+2 together

This. Sorry if I got anyones hopes up all my news from Albion comes from here! :D
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Quakes Fan on May 11, 2012, 08:13:40 PM
Funny that Roy is slightly older than Walter Smith. Walter Smith seems so old.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: HampshireBaggie on May 11, 2012, 08:16:21 PM
I really want Michael Laudrup, really hoping the odds get shortened and the headlines start coming!
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: wbarenno on May 11, 2012, 08:39:33 PM
I reckon once roys gone at the start of next week we will see alot of things happening. Its going to be an intresting last couple of weeks in may!
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: rubyruby on May 11, 2012, 09:59:45 PM
If you take a look at Sven Goren Ericsson's career resume it really is quite outstanding even eclipsing Roys. Would he be an excellent replacement for Roy and an ideal sort of coach to continue Roys good work? A good friend of Roys he would almost certainly get a strong recommendation. 40-1 looks a generous price so Ive stuck a fiver on. Any takers? 
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: A5HB on May 11, 2012, 10:25:59 PM
If you take a look at Sven Goren Ericsson's career resume it really is quite outstanding even eclipsing Roys. Would he be an excellent replacement for Roy and an ideal sort of coach to continue Roys good work? A good friend of Roys he would almost certainly get a strong recommendation. 40-1 looks a generous price so Ive stuck a fiver on. Any takers?
I thought this the other day when I heard him on talksport, you forget how much he achieved before England. He even did pretty well with England in comparison to others and was unlucky at Man City.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: clintsmoker on May 11, 2012, 10:35:12 PM
Sven? seriously? where's the rofl copter when you need it?!
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: GrGr on May 11, 2012, 10:35:19 PM
Sven-Goran Eriksson used to be a very good manager. Unfortunately nowadays I think there is more wine in his belly than fire.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: costa blanca baggie on May 11, 2012, 10:36:26 PM
Sven??? That guys managerial morals ended in Nottinghamshire.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: clintsmoker on May 11, 2012, 10:37:08 PM
reminds me very much of Hodgson. Overated and shrowded in myth. Achiewved a lot less than you would imagine given the accompanyig hoo ha.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: kris_boing on May 11, 2012, 10:43:01 PM
Dont want the gutless wonder Sven anywhere near our club.  I swear you can, to this day, still hear the echo in my local from me screaming at the big screen when he sat on his backside with a gormless look on his face when England wilted against Brazil in the 2002 WC.
 
His years of being England manager wasted some of the best talent this country has seen since '66.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: BB74 on May 11, 2012, 10:45:10 PM
Dont want the gutless wonder Sven anywhere near our club.  I swear you can, to this day, still hear the echo in my local from me screaming at the big screen when he sat on his backside with a gormless look on his face when England wilted against Brazil in the 2002 WC.
 
His years of being England manager wasted some of the best talent this country has seen since '66.

Off topic but I can't think of anyone who would have been able to successfully utilise the golden bunch.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Loughborough Baggy on May 11, 2012, 10:46:28 PM
reminds me very much of Hodgson. Overated and shrowded in myth. Achiewved a lot less than you would imagine given the accompanyig hoo ha.

Erikson had a small fortune at Leicester and couldn't get them out of Championship mid table.  Hodgson had next to nothing with us and turned us into a mid table Premiership Team.  Hodgson delivered mate - Erikson didn't and can't.

I do agree though that Erikson shouldn't be touched with a barge pole.  Know a fair bit about his Leicester time.  He was brilliant with sponsors and the like and the PR folks loved him but he was completely impotent on the footballing front.  Not a track suit man like Hodgson - I wouldn't let him anywhere near a Conference team never mind a Premier Team. 

Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: BB74 on May 11, 2012, 10:48:57 PM
Erikson had a small fortune at Leicester and couldn't get them out of Championship mid table.  Hodgson had next to nothing with us and turned us into a mid table Premiership Team.  Hodgson delivered mate - Erikson didn't and can't.

I do agree though that Erikson shouldn't be touched with a barge pole.  Know a fair bit about his Leicester time.  He was brilliant with sponsors and the like and the PR folks loved him but he was completely impotent on the footballing front.  Not a track suit man like Hodgson - I wouldn't let him anywhere near a Conference team never mind a Premier Team.

Let's ask Ulrika or Nancy  ;)  ;D
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: kris_boing on May 11, 2012, 10:50:59 PM
Off topic but I can't think of anyone who would have been able to successfully utilise the golden bunch.

Had Venables stayed for a while longer we'd have had a better chance of doing better in WC '98 and Euro 2000 IMO.
 
When Sven was appointed, on paper, it was a great appointment but I thought the same about Capello and look what happened there.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: costa blanca baggie on May 12, 2012, 12:19:14 AM
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: tommcneill on May 12, 2012, 12:19:55 AM
Bilic would be an excellent manager for us...

Im pinning my hopes on Michael Laudrup too but the idea of Ole Gunnar Solksjaer interests me too

I have too say that personally I dont think AVB is out of our range...he would be the coup d'etat of managerial appointments for me
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Standaman on May 12, 2012, 12:33:35 AM
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Londonbaggymike on May 12, 2012, 10:22:18 AM
How many times do I have to say this?:

There is someone at the mail with a true axe to grind against the Albion. The next story will be that everyone we have spoken to has laughed at the transfer budget on offer and walked. Every year it is the same! Anyone remember the story about Roy being unhappy last July just before we got Foster on loan and Shane Long who must have been No. 1 transfer choices?

Disregard anything that rag, the daily (hate)mail, says about West Brom!
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: royhan on May 12, 2012, 10:34:50 AM
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: JBullyWBA on May 12, 2012, 11:34:28 AM

I have too say that personally I dont think AVB is out of our range...he would be the coup d'etat of managerial appointments for me

I heard he was off to Valencia or Roma. Both of which are probably more attractive than us after the Chelsea debacle.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: theboywiththe arabstrap on May 12, 2012, 12:15:09 PM
Didn't Megson sign Kanu?

kanu was about 40 when we signed him in fairness.  i know officially he was 28, but you know nigerian passports...

Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: BB74 on May 12, 2012, 12:20:31 PM
Sorry to be picky but can this thread be renamed 'next Head Coach' we aren't recruiting a Manager.

When you are a HR biff like me job titles are everything  ;)
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: paulosull on May 13, 2012, 05:53:37 PM
roys gone who now? ???
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: addy on May 13, 2012, 06:01:28 PM
roys gone who now? ???

Hughton.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: WBASPE77 on May 13, 2012, 06:07:50 PM
Hughton.
I'd agree, I really hope we get him in.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: LegendOfAstle on May 13, 2012, 06:16:04 PM
right, glad that the owl has gone, had enough of his negative football, let england have him.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: westbrom4ever on May 13, 2012, 06:17:33 PM
Hughton.

Hope not, his football is a bland as Roy's.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Quakes Fan on May 13, 2012, 06:21:33 PM
right, glad that the owl has gone, had enough of his negative football, let england have him.

The "owl"? Uncool, dude.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: WBASPE77 on May 13, 2012, 06:23:16 PM
right, glad that the owl has gone, had enough of his negative football, let england have him.
I'm amazed you have said that, we have played some very good football this season.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Dan on May 13, 2012, 06:31:27 PM
You've gone from how can we replace Hodgson to hating him. If you're going to WUM at least be consistent.

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Sad to see Roy sitting there. Sad to see our best manager ever going into a the most thankless job in the world.

Good Luck anyway Roy.

Legendofastle two weeks ago.

Clever enough to choose an Albion related name, not clever enough to keep the same story going.

Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: LegendOfAstle on May 13, 2012, 06:32:56 PM
I am apologetic to anyone not agreeing with me, i have just been waiting for this moment since roy arrived. i am glad he's gone. Onward and upward! COME ON YOU BAGGIES!!!!
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Mat15(MH) on May 13, 2012, 06:34:53 PM
I am apologetic to anyone not agreeing with me, i have just been waiting for this moment since roy arrived. i am glad his gone. Onward and upward! COME ON YOU BAGGIES!!!!

You are showing yourself up here mate, stop being a tosser.

You may not like the bloke or his style, I have no problems with that, plenty of people have had issues with his style of play but haven't resorted to personal abuse and hatred and I am sure even his most ardent critics can respect the job he has done with us.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: LegendOfAstle on May 13, 2012, 06:36:14 PM
You've gone from how can we replace Hodgson to hating him. If you're going to WUM at least be consistent.

Legendofastle two weeks ago.

Clever enough to choose an Albion related name, not clever enough to keep the same story going.

Well there you go again, reading into things that are not there. Is roy our best manager ever? probably yes. Is he the man to take us on with his negative football and his profile? NO. certainly not. That is why i am glad he is gone, he is a stepping stone for something bigger.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: kris_boing on May 13, 2012, 06:38:14 PM
right, glad that the owl has gone, had enough of his negative football, let england have him.

Bye Bye Dingle.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: OldburyWBA on May 13, 2012, 06:38:27 PM
I am apologetic to anyone not agreeing with me, i have just been waiting for this moment since roy arrived. i am glad he's gone. Onward and upward! COME ON YOU BAGGIES!!!!


You do/don't rate him, no idea to be honest as you have contradicted yourself but cut the petty comments as we don't want it on here. One thing this site does not allow is personal abuse towards players or staff, nothing to do with keeping the club sweet, its because we have that little bit of class and rise above things like that so please follow our ways or go elsewhere.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: LegendOfAstle on May 13, 2012, 06:38:45 PM
You are showing yourself up here mate, stop being a tosser.

You may not like the bloke or his style, I have no problems with that, plenty of people have had issues with his style of play but haven't resorted to personal abuse and hatred and I am sure even his most ardent critics can respect the job he has done with us.

You are right, i hate the man, and i hate his style. That's not to say i appreciate his work for us, which i do. But now he is gone i can say my opinion thanks, Whether or not you like it i will.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: OldburyWBA on May 13, 2012, 06:39:57 PM
You are right, i hate the man, and i hate his style. That's not to say i appreciate his work for us, which i do. But now he is gone i can say my opinion thanks, Whether or not you like it i will.

Not anymore on here you won't.  :-*
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Mat15(MH) on May 13, 2012, 06:40:55 PM
You are right, i hate the man, and i hate his style. That's not to say i appreciate his work for us, which i do. But now he is gone i can say my opinion thanks, Whether or not you like it i will.

There's stating your opinion then what you have been doing.

Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: kris_boing on May 13, 2012, 06:41:54 PM
Hes gone so wont be replying to posts anymore.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Mat15(MH) on May 13, 2012, 06:43:02 PM
What a shame...
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: OldburyWBA on May 13, 2012, 07:09:26 PM
From Twitter:

Football Mole ? @Football_Mole

The whisper I'm hearing tonight is that Paul Lambert will be given permission to speak to #wba about the vacant manager position
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: DaveWBA on May 13, 2012, 07:10:06 PM
Twitter rumours gathering pace about us approaching Paul Lambert. Can't see it myself, as I say, just rumours.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: kris_boing on May 13, 2012, 07:12:42 PM
More likely to go to the Villa I would have thought.
 
Would be a superb appointement though if we could get him.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: ian on May 13, 2012, 07:13:03 PM
Anyway back on track i do think that the next manager has to take us to the next level which for me is being consistently in the top ten and with an outside chance of europe that for me would be progress we have finished mid table now twice running so i do not think i am expecting to much
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Baggies on May 13, 2012, 07:14:57 PM
That football mole has hardly any followers so I wouldnt believe him personally.

The rumours are growing because Lambert, when asked if he would still be at Norwich next season, answered that "it is hard to say". Cue, people look around to see which club in the league needs a new manager and they see WBA and put 2 and 2 together.

The question you have to ask if why would Lambert leave Norwich to go to a club like ourselves? It is a sideways step. We wont spend anymore money and we have both finished mid table this year.

I think the more likely outcome may be that a club like Villa have spoken to him in the last few weeks and promised him some money to spend.

Id love him to come, but dont get your hopes up.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: jsam on May 13, 2012, 07:21:26 PM
I have to agree with Baggies that it would be a sideways move for Lambert to come here. But we are just about a more attractive club for him, and he's certainly got that knack of turning sow's ears into silk purses. I wouldn't mind him at all.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: reiss on May 13, 2012, 07:28:16 PM
apparently Tom Ross' show the goalzone reported it as well
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: ian on May 13, 2012, 07:28:38 PM
He has certainly got the best out of mediocre players there are no star names in their team he even got barnett to perform better thanhere however can he take us on another level and more important will he stay and build a dynasty
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: OldburyWBA on May 13, 2012, 07:32:07 PM
He has certainly got the best out of mediocre players there are no star names in their team he even got barnett to perform better thanhere however can he take us on another level and more important will he stay and build a dynasty

Not hard really, he's a defender so let him defend and he'll put his head on anything and everything.

I think the next couple of weeks are massive for the club in getting the right man in. Lambert has done well this season and in his career so far. Also has a good record in derby games according to wiki. Signed a new deal last Summer at Norwich.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: divinewind on May 13, 2012, 07:43:09 PM
If any managers were watching us today they would have to be impressed with the set up,the crowd and the players we have here.
We are a club with no debts,and although i am a big critic of Mr Peace i will give credit where it is due.

Now Mr Peace has to get it right,we are in a fantastic position,Roy has left us a very desirable prospect for any manager who wants a job.

It would be such a shame if all Roys good work went out of the window with a bad appointment.
I will back any manager who takes us on,but i do hope we go for one with premier league experience to carry on what has been started.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Baggies on May 13, 2012, 07:47:21 PM
Slaven Bilic has taken the job at Locomotiv Moscow - for those who wanted him to come.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: derbybaggie on May 13, 2012, 08:04:24 PM
Can someone post some more links to the lambert rumour please
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: boinging_along on May 13, 2012, 08:06:11 PM
Slaven Bilic has taken the job at Locomotiv Moscow - for those who wanted him to come.

He'd have been amazing to have.

Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: royhan on May 13, 2012, 08:45:35 PM
An early appointment is now crucial if we are to try and tie down Foster and Olsson before the vultures swoop.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: AlbionBest on May 13, 2012, 08:48:38 PM
Any likely candidate watching from the stands today ?????
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Aztech on May 13, 2012, 08:52:06 PM
Any likely candidate watching from the stands today ?????

I've been there all season mate!  ;D
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: rubyruby on May 13, 2012, 09:26:06 PM
Should we attempt something jaw droppingly spectacular and offer David Moyes 3 million a year for 5 years because he would keep this squad up as is without any new additions.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: BB74 on May 13, 2012, 09:32:24 PM
Should we attempt something jaw droppingly spectacular and offer David Moyes 3 million a year for 5 years because he would keep this squad up as is without any new additions.

Everton to us is not a sidewards step, its a backwards step!  ???
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: rubyruby on May 13, 2012, 09:45:33 PM
Everton to us is not a sidewards step, its a backwards step!  ???

Not at 15million over 5 years its not................thats my point
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: boing_boing68 on May 13, 2012, 09:49:37 PM
surely he is already on about 3million a year, no chance of getting Moyes, he will hold out for a bigger job. would be nice though
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: rubyruby on May 13, 2012, 09:58:43 PM
surely he is already on about 3million a year, no chance of getting Moyes, he will hold out for a bigger job. would be nice though

Wouldnt have thought he was on anywhere near that boing at Everton! but in any event I was just contemplating what it might take financially to lever him out of there. sure you may well be right but im asking the board have you contemplated a think big strategy. would there be an albion fan not gobsmackingly happy with Moyesy
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Baggie79 on May 13, 2012, 10:05:50 PM
Can someone post some more links to the lambert rumour please

I can guarantee 100% that nobody has been offered the job.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: boing_boing68 on May 13, 2012, 10:07:30 PM
if we are talking big then for me it's AVB
if we are talking about how I want the Ranieri/Lambert/Rodgers
if we are talking about who I think it will be then it's Hughton
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: rubyruby on May 13, 2012, 10:11:01 PM
if we are talking big then for me it's AVB
if we are talking about how I want the Ranieri/Lambert/Rodgers
if we are talking about who I think it will be then it's Hughton

AVB......his approach personality and body language worry me....seems to over complicate

the other 4......................be ok with any of them but ranieris cv must stand out
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: overseas baggie on May 13, 2012, 10:32:52 PM
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: JBullyWBA on May 13, 2012, 11:33:46 PM
There is no point at all even thinking about Moyes, Lambert, Rodgers etc. Simple side/backwards moves to The Albion.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: BB74 on May 13, 2012, 11:44:12 PM
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: OldburyWBA on May 14, 2012, 12:13:42 AM
There is no point at all even thinking about Moyes, Lambert, Rodgers etc. Simple side/backwards moves to The Albion.

I don't think Lambert or Rodgers if they came here would be taking a side/backwards step at all to be honest. We are a more established club in this division (yes only in our 3rd now straight season but before that we have had a few years up and down), we have a better quality of player (Foster on loan yes but hopefully permanent, Odemwingie, Brunt, Morrison, Dorrans (await the moans about that one), Olsson, Mulumbu etc)  whereas no disrespect to either sets of players at either club they have massively over-achieved this season and both managers have worked wonders with the squads they have, the squads do contain some excellent players who would add something to our squad but overall i'd rather have ours. Are we in a better position to attract quality players in terms of wages/ fees/ stadium/ facilities ? i'd say yes on all counts.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: rubyruby on May 14, 2012, 12:22:20 AM
I don't think Lambert or Rodgers if they came here would be taking a side/backwards step at all to be honest. We are a more established club in this division (yes only in our 3rd now straight season but before that we have had a few years up and down), we have a better quality of player (Foster on loan yes but hopefully permanent, Odemwingie, Brunt, Morrison, Dorrans (await the moans about that one), Olsson, Mulumbu etc)  whereas no disrespect to either sets of players at either club they have massively over-achieved this season and both managers have worked wonders with the squads they have, the squads do contain some excellent players who would add something to our squad but overall i'd rather have ours. Are we in a better position to attract quality players in terms of wages/ fees/ stadium/ facilities ? i'd say yes on all counts.

I absolutely agree 100% oldbury and ive got a funny feeling JP is not about to undersell us. Our stock has never been higher and we are growing a s a club again. i would not be surprised to see a big name appear in the frame for the vacancy. We have a very strong squad. Today on the counter attack we shredded arsenal at times. Outside of the three things we asked fulop to do today which unfortunately he got wrong on all counts what else did he have to do. We looked comfortable in AFCs company. A couple of seasons ago they came here beat us 3 nil and it was no more than a training game for them.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Baggy nerd on May 14, 2012, 12:32:52 AM
The Lambert rumour is picking up pace but I just can't see him taking that step. Both teams finished on the same points this season and he wouldn't come in and get loads of money to spend.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: reynirver on May 14, 2012, 12:37:28 AM
It confuses me that you are all talking about next level.. What is the next level? Qualifing for Europe? We've been mid table now for 2 years, I think we just need try to stay on our current level? I would like some answers about what you are thinking  :)
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: geoff on May 14, 2012, 08:06:31 AM
The post that has excited me the most is the one saying the Croatian manger Slaven Blic is stepping down after the Euros but who ever comes i hope he's a WO signing not a WHO.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: WBAinDEVON on May 14, 2012, 08:12:13 AM
Its going to tougher in the Premier next season, so many teams including the ones coming up with probably better spending power than us. We could do with quick steady appointment. Lambert off to the Villa i hear.I could not see him or Rodgers leaving their clubs for us to be fair.We need somone in place by the end of this month
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: hardtobeat on May 14, 2012, 08:30:48 AM
We need somebody in place by the end of this week,so much to do.Ollson and Fosters situation to be sorted,team strenghtening to be discussed,scouting at euros to be done etc :o
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Dorrans17 on May 14, 2012, 09:27:19 AM
We need somebody in place by the end of this week,so much to do.Ollson and Fosters situation to be sorted,team strenghtening to be discussed,scouting at euros to be done etc :o

That's what Ashworth is there for, sir!
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: boinging_along on May 14, 2012, 10:22:51 AM
It confuses me that you are all talking about next level.. What is the next level? Qualifing for Europe? We've been mid table now for 2 years, I think we just need try to stay on our current level? I would like some answers about what you are thinking  :)

Mid-table is our next level.  We need to get it out of our heads that we've ditched the yo-yo tag and are now a premiership team.  Two great seasons so far but we have to build on it.  Wolves had 3 seasons in the prem before going down, Bolton had 9 and they had a few years of top half finishes.  Blackburn have been around for quite a while too. 

If the worst was to happen and we sign an uninspiring manager, lose Olsson and Foster then next season could be a struggle.  We have to look at ensuring we're consistently around the middle of the table all season and be looking to get to 40 pts earlier and earlier.

Stand still and you go backwards in this league.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: WorcsWBA on May 14, 2012, 10:51:35 AM
I keep reading things saying that we're in no rush to appoint anyone and it could be next month before we make a move. I hope that's not the case, as there are things to be sorted out (Olsson, Foster, assistant coaches etc) and plans/signings for next season to be discussed/implemented with the new incumbent. There will also be other clubs who may well be after some of our managerial targets. Targets who are currently employed at other clubs will be looking to have a holiday before very long too.

All things considered, therefore, I think we need to get on with it. The season's finished and we can have a free rein to approach anyone we choose, so there's no reason to hesitate.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: graka on May 14, 2012, 11:01:25 AM
ok over to you jp. the seasons over lets get this sorted. lots of names mentioned, for me approach norwich about lambert. if not then theres hughton to fall back on. what surprises me is how many people would be happy with hughton but not holloway. both only have limited premier experience but i think holloways achievements in comparison to hughtons this season are easily on a par.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: tuamigos on May 14, 2012, 11:02:43 AM
I keep reading things saying that we're in no rush to appoint anyone and it could be next month before we make a move. I hope that's not the case, as there are things to be sorted out (Olsson, Foster, assistant coaches etc) and plans/signings for next season to be discussed/implemented with the new incumbent. There will also be other clubs who may well be after some of our managerial targets. Targets who are currently employed at other clubs will be looking to have a holiday before very long too.

All things considered, therefore, I think we need to get on with it. The season's finished and we can have a free rein to approach anyone we choose, so there's no reason to hesitate.


I think you'll find that this is the time of year that football clubs take annual leave so some of the parties involved in transfers and new contract negotiations are difficult to get sitting round a table together.
I wouldn't be surprised if its the beginning of July before its sorted.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Mister AT on May 14, 2012, 11:07:30 AM
You'll probably find the Olsson and Foster situations are already being dealt with regardless of whos in charge.

Both are highly rated by the club. Would be an asset to any manager who takes the role.

I can see Olsson being tied up to a deal and the Foster deal being 90% done before a new boss comes in and 'authorises' the deal.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: mank baggie on May 14, 2012, 12:28:33 PM
im hearing vile are getting rid of ginger minge hope hes not comeing to the albion
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: hardtobeat on May 14, 2012, 12:44:10 PM
That's what Ashworth is there for, sir!
With our limited budget the new head honcho will surely have some input if if it is just priortising his needs.,and who the new man is may well determine whether or not Ollson or others want to stay that is why imo sooner rather than later.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: WBAinDEVON on May 14, 2012, 12:45:37 PM
im hearing vile are getting rid of ginger minge hope hes not comeing to the albion


Are you trying to wind us up :D
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Dan on May 14, 2012, 12:50:09 PM

I think you'll find that this is the time of year that football clubs take annual leave so some of the parties involved in transfers and new contract negotiations are difficult to get sitting round a table together.
I wouldn't be surprised if its the beginning of July before its sorted.

I severely doubt we'd leave it till the start of pre-season to get a manager in, I imagine we'll probably be looking to get one in by the start of June.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: WBAinDEVON on May 14, 2012, 01:26:22 PM
Big Eck back to Bloues and Hughton to us?
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: kc56wba on May 14, 2012, 01:35:55 PM
Does anyone in their right mind think McLeish will come to The Hawthorns? JP would not do that to us! WOULD HE!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: VANDERLEI on May 14, 2012, 02:15:13 PM
I'd rather have McLeish than Appleton who odds have shortened. To be fair, has McLeish done such a bad job at Villa with the funds he's had and massive injury problems. They're squad is as bad as I can ever remember, and he did well at blues. Winning the League Cup was the killer for them as well as their main defensive partnership being broken up through injury. He certainly wouldn't be my first choice but think McLeish is a much better manager than the prejudiced Vile fans would have people believe.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Jack Russell on May 14, 2012, 02:24:40 PM
I would rather have Rab c Nesbitt than Alex Mcleish
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Mossi28 on May 14, 2012, 03:00:26 PM
I'd rather have McLeish than Appleton who odds have shortened. To be fair, has McLeish done such a bad job at Villa with the funds he's had and massive injury problems. They're squad is as bad as I can ever remember, and he did well at blues. Winning the League Cup was the killer for them as well as their main defensive partnership being broken up through injury. He certainly wouldn't be my first choice but think McLeish is a much better manager than the prejudiced Vile fans would have people believe.
If we get McLeish I will demand my season ticket money back! he's not even an option imo.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: tuamigos on May 14, 2012, 03:13:47 PM
not a snowflake in hells chance :o
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Savvas78 on May 14, 2012, 03:14:28 PM
Surely Jeremy Peace would have to be committed under the Mental Health Act if he appointed that soon to be ex-seal clown as our next manager?!!
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Dan on May 14, 2012, 03:15:39 PM
I'd rather have McLeish than Appleton who odds have shortened. To be fair, has McLeish done such a bad job at Villa with the funds he's had and massive injury problems. They're squad is as bad as I can ever remember, and he did well at blues. Winning the League Cup was the killer for them as well as their main defensive partnership being broken up through injury. He certainly wouldn't be my first choice but think McLeish is a much better manager than the prejudiced Vile fans would have people believe.

In 4 seasons in the premier league he's only got 40 points plus once. Considering we have a smaller (vastly smaller) budget than either Blues or Villa did, that doesn't exactly bode well if we did get him.

Appleton at least might be a decent manager - no one knows, but we do know Mcleish is far from a decent one. One lucky cup win doesn't change that. Avram Grant got Portsmouth to an FA cup final and Chelsea to a champions league final but we sure as hell wouldn't want him.

Still can't see past Hughton though. There's not much out there looking at the odds list. Not too many particularly promising managers in the lower divisions either. Chris Powell might be an interesting one given he transformed Charlton from mid-table league one to winning the division with 101 points in one season, but he's got precious little experience and would be quiet a gamble.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Baggies84 on May 14, 2012, 03:21:41 PM
I honestly think that this is the biggest decision that Jeremy has had to make since he took over at the albion. Mcrelegator leaving the vile today worrys me, not least because wherever he goes theres a strong likelyhood he would want to take peter grant (who i actually think is ilthe real problem!!!) with him.

Just to throw in a name to the hat folks, what about Lee Clark?
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: lewisant on May 14, 2012, 03:36:00 PM
Mcleish has gone. oh dear. puts us maybe behind villa in the pecking order and means that he is available.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Jack Russell on May 14, 2012, 03:40:08 PM
Why are people talking about McLeish. Not a cat in hells.Stop winding me up >:(
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: lewisant on May 14, 2012, 03:41:54 PM
Why are people talking about McLeish. Not a cat in hells.Stop winding me up >:(

well i am because villa have just sacked him. I dont think he'd even be considered but i do think it will affect who we can get
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: BB74 on May 14, 2012, 03:42:50 PM
mcleish has gone. oh dear. puts up maybe behind villa in the pecking order and means that useless ginger tw*t is available

Villa will have different candidates to us. We don't really offer the likes of Lambert and Martinez anything different. They may even be able to tempt AVB.

Yes we are looking healthy and have finished above them this season but like it or not Villa are the biggest club in the Midlands and always will be unless they get relegated and we get taken over by a sugar daddy. 
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: rubyruby on May 14, 2012, 03:43:50 PM
mcleish has gone. oh dear. puts up maybe behind villa in the pecking order and means that useless ginger tw*t is available

hey less of the useless please  :)
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: lewisant on May 14, 2012, 03:47:21 PM
hey less of the useless please  :)

haha well, he's had his uses the last two seasons i suppose!
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Jack Russell on May 14, 2012, 03:47:38 PM
Villa will have different candidates to us. We don't really offer the likes of Lambert and Martinez anything different. They may even be able to tempt AVB.

Yes we are looking healthy and have finished above them this season but like it or not Villa are the biggest club in the Midlands and always will be unless they get relegated and we get taken over by a sugar daddy.


Could not agree more, we are a million miles off the Vile and always will be.
Untill we get a very wealthy person to supply some wonga we will never be has attractive than the Vile.
The best chance of sending them down and making them suffer you could say we blew it when we played them a few weeks back
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: wba1993dave on May 14, 2012, 04:24:24 PM
I think we need to get a manager in before the end of the month, we have a lot of issues that need sorting out. Dont think we should worry about Villa they will go for Lambert who i think is still unproven in this league, same goes for Rodgers. Hopefully we will hear a bit more news. If i was JP i would get Hughton appointed by next week so he can start planning early. 8)
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on May 14, 2012, 04:29:40 PM
Why people worry about McLeish I don't know. The bloke has relegated Birmingham twice, and came very close to relegating Aston Villa. They in the end survived by a point. I'm sure Peace isn't going to risk the future of the club by appointing McLeish.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: up_the_baggies on May 14, 2012, 04:31:51 PM
Jeremy Peace and Dan Ashworth have made some very good managerial appointments recently.

Why do you think they would appoint a manager who has not only got a very bad premier league record, but was just sacked by one of our fiercest rivals?

The thing that worries me.. is that candidates for our position may reassess their future now that the Villa job is open.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Albion79 on May 14, 2012, 04:39:30 PM
This may mean nothing as it seems to of shifted daily but a mate of mine who compiles football odds for numerous bookies has texted to say their has been a big surge for Appleton today, he has gone upto 2nd favourite at a lot of places apparently.

He hasnt text about any other manager so not sure if it means anything and certainly not claiming to be ITK just passing on some info, but Appletons name hasnt really been mentioned until today has it? 
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: DaveWBA on May 14, 2012, 04:39:52 PM
Our shortlist was drawn up long before McLeish became available, calm down.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Standaman on May 14, 2012, 04:40:19 PM
McLeish going muddies the waters a bit however as other posters have pointed out Villa are a very different proposition to ourselves.

In short big club fallen on hard times is the easier sell to the next coach than smaller club overachieving. Pretty much any manager at the Villa would get a free pass from even the fickle seals for just not being McLeish and moving the club in the right direction. Whereas whoever replaces Roy faces a tough task to improve on what has gone before and will have to battle against a heightened level of expectancy based on our relative success.

Finally there is less than zero chance of McLeish turning up at the Hawthorns.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: kris_boing on May 14, 2012, 04:41:11 PM
Appleton is not ready for this job.  If he gets the job I would fear for our survival hopes.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on May 14, 2012, 04:43:27 PM
I do like Appleton and I feel for the job he's had at Portsmouth, however, there's no room for sentiment in football and as much as I'd like to see him at the Albion in the future, I'd worry if he was appointed at the moment. All I could hope for if he was appointed is that in his spell with working with Roy he learnt everything in the textbook of football management.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: smethwickw on May 14, 2012, 04:44:51 PM
I think we need to get a manager in before the end of the month, we have a lot of issues that need sorting out. Dont think we should worry about Villa they will go for Lambert who i think is still unproven in this league, same goes for Rodgers. Hopefully we will hear a bit more news. If i was JP i would get Hughton appointed by next week so he can start planning early. 8)

If you think Lambert and Rodgers are unproven then what is Hughton? Lambert would be a very good appointment for us IMO.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: up_the_baggies on May 14, 2012, 04:57:36 PM
Appleton is not ready for this job.  If he gets the job I would fear for our survival hopes.

I feel this is the same of McInness too. After having such an experienced manager, could we put our trust in an inexperienced candidate like McInness and Appleton? Who, whilst doing okay at their current clubs, haven't excelled themselves, despite the difficult circumstances at Pompey.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Standaman on May 14, 2012, 05:01:11 PM
Appleton does worry me as an appointment very inexperienced as a Head Coach. I think there might have been a view within the club that Appleton could have stepped up if Roy quit in a couple of season's time but I think now is too soon and if I had to guess they will go with someone who has a little bit more experience.

Whoever is appointed I hope the fans do not damn him before a ball is kicked we all saw what happened with McLeish at Villa, it cast a cloud over the season and the negativity impacted the players. We all have personal likes and dislikes for the Head Coach role but please no more comments like if we appoint x I will cancel my season ticket.

Whoever is Head Coach we are still Albion and I am still going to be getting behind the team and leave Seals to the bed sheet protests.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: GrGr on May 14, 2012, 05:07:03 PM
McLeish going muddies the waters a bit however as other posters have pointed out Villa are a very different proposition to ourselves.

In short big club fallen on hard times is the easier sell to the next coach than smaller club overachieving. Pretty much any manager at the Villa would get a free pass from even the fickle seals for just not being McLeish and moving the club in the right direction. Whereas whoever replaces Roy faces a tough task to improve on what has gone before and will have to battle against a heightened level of expectancy based on our relative success.

Finally there is less than zero chance of McLeish turning up at the Hawthorns.

That's not an automatic given. Big clubs in turmoil are notorious eaters of managers. If someone like Raineri, now in his 60s, wants a stable project and a stable next five years to work steadily then we'd be a worth a good look. We are not in financial turmoil and we do not need to cut our wage bill drastically and rebuild a better squad with less money.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: rubyruby on May 14, 2012, 05:22:02 PM
McLeish going muddies the waters a bit however as other posters have pointed out Villa are a very different proposition to ourselves.

In short big club fallen on hard times is the easier sell to the next coach than smaller club overachieving. Pretty much any manager at the Villa would get a free pass from even the fickle seals for just not being McLeish and moving the club in the right direction. Whereas whoever replaces Roy faces a tough task to improve on what has gone before and will have to battle against a heightened level of expectancy based on our relative success.

Finally there is less than zero chance of McLeish turning up at the Hawthorns.

Agree entirely re Mcleish and I agree with your also re the villa situation. Although I take your point Im not sure that we are a simply a smaller club overachieving. Actually I think we represent a top quality opportunity to manage an historical club with tremendous potential. I think its more to do with the person that you employ. Some coaches will be a good fit others not so good. As in the world of business top organisations dont simply advertise for someone they actively seek out the right person for the job. So yes there are coaches out there more suited to building from a blank sheet of paper with a big budget but equally there are the Roys of this world that fit into a well oiled system and extract the best from it. A case of horses for courses so to speak
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Baggies on May 14, 2012, 07:13:24 PM
I dont think Appleton is ready for the managers job here. He is only half a season into his spell at Portsmouth and although nobody can blame him for their relegation, the fact still remains that he did nothing special at Portsmouth. If he had keep them up then maybe but I think he needs to achieve something before we consider him.

Im not reading too much into the betting exchanges at the moment though. There have been too many favourites so far. I think being sensible and analytical will tell you that Raneri may be considered having been interviewed however Hughton will be the one the club are looking at the most, unless there is somebody from left field available.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: kris_boing on May 14, 2012, 07:20:49 PM
Villa being in the market for a manager now means we have to move quickly.  If we are competing with them then I think we'll come 2nd.  Despite the fact that we have finished well above them in the league they are still a bigger pull.
 
If for instance we were in for Ranieri or AVB I think they'll be more tempted with the Villa job.
 
 
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: rubyruby on May 14, 2012, 07:27:46 PM
Villa being in the market for a manager now means we have to move quickly.  If we are competing with them then I think we'll come 2nd.  Despite the fact that we have finished well above them in the league they are still a bigger pull.
 
If for instance we were in for Ranieri or AVB I think they'll be more tempted with the Villa job.

Think the very last thing we should do is compete with the Villa and get rushed into an appointment. The club should take its time and consider the possibles very carefully. If one goes to the Villa so be it. That way when we make a decision it is more likely to be a good one for both parties
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: The Black Pearl on May 14, 2012, 07:55:09 PM
Off the Small Heath Alliance;

17:23, Monday 14 May 2012

Reliable sauce (tomato) of mine has told me that Hughton's gone for an interview at West Brom today.
 
Bye bye Chris
Did not get supported though.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Londonbaggymike on May 14, 2012, 08:56:09 PM
Off the Small Heath Alliance;

17:23, Monday 14 May 2012

Reliable sauce (tomato) of mine has told me that Hughton's gone for an interview at West Brom today.
 
Bye bye Chris
Did not get supported though.

Chris Lepkowski just refuted this on twitter.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: alex1 on May 14, 2012, 10:25:46 PM
Would be disappointed with Lambert. I come from High Wycombe where he was manager at Wycombe Wanderers. His football was quite dire at times and I remember him saying words to the effect that 1-0 was a favourite score of his. Besides that, listening to a mumbler with a Glaswegian accent gets quite a strain. McLeish would be worse as the guy is defensive minded,as most Villa fans seem agreed.  Apparently even when Villa were safe last Sunday, he still sent out a team not to get beat. We need a manager with vision playing expansive attractive football. Rodgers, Martinez or RDM would be my preference. But would not be too unhappy with Chris Hughton or Ranieri.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: wbajez on May 14, 2012, 10:57:57 PM
Here's one. His team played the best football that I have seen this season. They dismantled and outplayed Manky United. He plays total football similar to Guardiola and van Haal. His name is Marcelo Bielsa and he is currently manager of Athletic Bilbao. WBA = Total football. Get him in there!
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Critical Baggie on May 14, 2012, 11:45:46 PM
AVB's odds cut again. From 20 to 16.

Find it strange his odds are lower for us than Villa (40).
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: wdbroun on May 15, 2012, 03:46:13 AM

AVB will not be managing a team in this country for a good while if at all. He's obviously a talented manager but he just doesn't seem suited to English football ...
I agree. AVB's way too cerebral and aristocratic. He was more suited to the idea of Chelsea FC than the boots-on-pitch reality. Totally the wrong fit for WBA.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: WBAinDEVON on May 15, 2012, 08:12:23 AM
AVB's odds cut again. From 20 to 16.

Find it strange his odds are lower for us than Villa (40).

Whos to say the club have not made contact and are seriously considering?
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Mister AT on May 15, 2012, 08:26:34 AM
Here's one. His team played the best football that I have seen this season. They dismantled and outplayed Manky United. He plays total football similar to Guardiola and van Haal. His name is Marcelo Bielsa and he is currently manager of Athletic Bilbao. WBA = Total football. Get him in there!

You being serious?  The guy is HIGHLY rated in the football world, and has just took Bilbao to a Euro final, IF he were to become available, there would be much bigger clubs in Europe looking at him before he chose us.


We need to stay realistic.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: WBAinDEVON on May 15, 2012, 08:47:17 AM
We need many years of consolidation, then we become long term morre attractive for a takeover.
Another Roy will do for me. Lets go get Sven, he can talk to Olsson
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: mank baggie on May 15, 2012, 08:57:37 AM
We need many years of consolidation, then we become long term morre attractive for a takeover.
Another Roy will do for me. Lets go get Sven, he can talk to Olsson
yeah, and probably play him on the left wing
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Mister AT on May 15, 2012, 09:38:22 AM
Some interesting stuff from a lad at work..

(Dont shoot the messenger)

A lad at work has just said hes heard some strong rumours that Mowbray may be in the running again. Apparantly hes due an Interview.

What would be your thoughts on this?
I for one dont think it would happen...
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: AidantheBaggies on May 15, 2012, 09:52:38 AM
Some interesting stuff from a lad at work..

(Dont shoot the messenger)

A lad at work has just said hes heard some strong rumours that Mowbray may be in the running again. Apparantly hes due an Interview.

What would be your thoughts on this?
I for one dont think it would happen...

I have heard this too!!!  :-[
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: WBAinDEVON on May 15, 2012, 10:02:05 AM
I have heard this too!!!  :-[

If it were ever to happen we would need a proper defence coach,  someone like Big Dave possibly.
Mind you some say his football aint been pretty to watch at the Boro
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: lewisant on May 15, 2012, 10:05:53 AM
I'd be worried the organisational side of our game that's been worked hard on would go out the window. I love Mowbray when he was here an was hurt the way he left us but if it happened I'd back him
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Critical Baggie on May 15, 2012, 10:10:49 AM
As like lewisant said, I too was really hurt when he jumped ship, especially after going so much on about philosophy and loyalty etc but he did give us some of the most exciting football to watch.

Though after the last year with Roy, I'll take the mid table 'boring' football as long as we stay up and sustain some stability.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Mister AT on May 15, 2012, 10:12:20 AM
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: wba1993dave on May 15, 2012, 10:15:56 AM
Tony Mowbray would take us backwards, would be a poor appointment.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: boinger1968 on May 15, 2012, 10:20:33 AM
According to today's Brum mail we are closely monitoring the situation at Norwich so Lambert is a likely candidate.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: kris_boing on May 15, 2012, 10:29:02 AM
I would hope Mowbray has learned valuable lessons since hes been away.   While he was here we played some of the best football I've seen at our club.
 
I always thought he would be a superb manager when working with better players.  I can see him returning one day but I dont think now is the right time.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: boing_boing68 on May 15, 2012, 10:32:14 AM
Oh dear, please not Mowbray the bloke is a myth, how people can say he played good football in the premiership is beyond me, good football is winning football
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: VANDERLEI on May 15, 2012, 10:44:11 AM
Mowbray would be a suicidal appointment.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: tuamigos on May 15, 2012, 10:48:22 AM
Cant see Mowbray happening, I'd imagine JP was as wounded as the rest of us when he went.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: bigbadjohn on May 15, 2012, 10:50:36 AM
Peace doesnt strike my as the type to go back and give someone another chance , so i would be shocked if Mowbray come back.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Standaman on May 15, 2012, 10:59:40 AM
Mowbray probably no.

I am not sure that Peace was entirely happy with the way he jumped ship after he had stuck with him through what was a pretty dire campaign. I just had a quick look at 'Boro's results and their problem was a lack of goals there were not too many 4-3 or 2-3 scorelines which littered his reign at the Hawthorns, he might have learnt a valuable lesson given that his philosophy cost him his "dream" job at Celtic.

I am generally not one for taking managers back for a second chance and in this case I think we have moved on quite a bit since Mowbray was here so not for me.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: wbastrollers on May 15, 2012, 11:09:47 AM
I think it is nonesense-why not have RDM back if we are going down that road.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: mank baggie on May 15, 2012, 11:12:15 AM
I hate Mowbray
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: BobTaylor on May 15, 2012, 11:16:34 AM
I think it is nonesense-why not have RDM back if we are going down that road.

Completly agree, would be undoing all the hard defensive organisation that roys done, i want hughton now.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: lewisant on May 15, 2012, 11:47:00 AM
I would just like us to push on this week and try to get something done, rumours are Kenny is gone from Liverpool and people say us, liverpool and villa will be looking down different avenues for replacements but it makes the likes of Ranieri, Martinez even slimmer than they already are to join us. Also there's the knock on affects of who they take, if Rogers, Lambert, Martinez were to go to Liverpool / Villa we'd then be competing with Wigan/Swansea/Norwich for a new coach and they will be going down similar avenues as us.

IMO we should fast track Hughton in and anybody else we want to talk to get it done soon!
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: kc56wba on May 15, 2012, 12:07:14 PM
For god's sake dont go down the road of having ex-managers back. Look what happened when Giles and Atkinson came back for the second time. It dont work
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: tuamigos on May 15, 2012, 12:09:31 PM
Dont know why everyone's panicing, the wheels are most likely in motion for whoever we are going to get.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Albion79 on May 15, 2012, 12:47:39 PM
Ranieri has apparently been in talks with a few clubs but has said that he has met with the owners of Fiorentina and offered his services and that would be his ideal job if offered it.

I think he is playing a clever game of just letting everybody know he is available, our sunday league manager has stepped down so may see if Ranieri fancies that, he wants every other job!
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Standaman on May 15, 2012, 12:57:10 PM
I think the Ranieri link was very tentative. Fiorentina is a much more likely destination or even Villa.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: tuamigos on May 15, 2012, 01:07:56 PM
Ranieri has apparently been in talks with a few clubs but has said that he has met with the owners of Fiorentina and offered his services and that would be his ideal job if offered it.

I think he is playing a clever game of just letting everybody know he is available, our sunday league manager has stepped down so may see if Ranieri fancies that, he wants every other job!

ala Owen Hargreaves
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Albion79 on May 15, 2012, 02:16:54 PM
Di Matteo was asked in his press conference about him going back to West Brom as manager, his reply -

In my life i once went back with an ex girlfriend....... it didnt work out!

Think its fair to say he wont be returning!
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Mister AT on May 15, 2012, 02:24:45 PM
I cant see Mowbray or Di Matteo coming back and personally i dont want them back.

Thats nothing against them as managers, but I feel both have moved on.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Dexy on May 15, 2012, 02:35:29 PM
I cant see Mowbray or Di Matteo coming back and personally i dont want them back.

Thats nothing against them as managers, but I feel both have moved on.
I think people forget Mowbray was leaving us at the end of that season whether it was to Celtic or not,things between him and JP weren't at all well and it was rumoured at the time JP wanted to sack TM around February if i remember but got talked out of it.Certainly Venus wanted out anyway.Total non starter for me.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: baggyjon on May 15, 2012, 03:27:51 PM
JP/DA have known Roy was leaving for some time now (and in my opinion long before it was officially announced) and we all know how they work. No knee jerk reactions ... planning, planning planning. If a replacement isn't on its way I would be most surprised. We no longer deal in iffs and butts.
Mowbray would not entertain coming back under JP, if my memory serves me well TM was unhappy and I believe couldn't get out quick enough. RDM comments says it all.
I have a hunch and it is only a hunch that Martinez will be our next manager. I understand that not too long ago he spent time in JP's company. JP was impressed with his intelligence. You never know it could equally be a rabbit out of the hat and not on our radar
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: royhan on May 15, 2012, 03:34:45 PM
JP/DA have known Roy was leaving for some time now (and in my opinion long before it was officially announced) and we all know how they work. No knee jerk reactions ... planning, planning planning. If a replacement isn't on its way I would be most surprised. We no longer deal in iffs and butts.
Mowbray would not entertain coming back under JP, if my memory serves me well TM was unhappy and I believe couldn't get out quick enough. RDM comments says it all.
I have a hunch and it is only a hunch that Martinez will be our next manager. I understand that not too long ago he spent time in JP's company. JP was impressed with his intelligence. You never know it could equally be a rabbit out of the hat and not on our radar

My money is on the 'rabbit' - someone from Europe who hasn't been touted so far.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: garry on May 15, 2012, 03:41:55 PM
My money is on the 'rabbit' - someone from Europe who hasn't been touted so far.
I agree.
If I were a gambling man I would be laying anyone in the current betting market who is less than 10/1.
I think it will not be anyone obvious.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: KnaveofAlbion on May 15, 2012, 03:42:06 PM
They are of no threat at all now, so it's fine. But Wo1ve5 appear to have nabbed a good coach from the mainland!?

I think we're unlikely to get a British manager due to how we're set up. We're especially unlikely to get an older British manager. So unless it's Hughton I would guess the appointment won't be a Brit at all.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Jack Russell on May 15, 2012, 03:55:50 PM
My few quid went on AVB
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: nick_wba on May 15, 2012, 04:30:36 PM
Would love AVB. Also agree that we will approach a coach from the mainland who can fit straight into our system.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Mister AT on May 15, 2012, 04:31:59 PM
Think AVB would want too much in terms of wages, was on a 'bomb' at Chelsea.

That said, only way we would have the slightest chance is if he thinks he has a massive point too prove to the english game.

I feel AVB will end up in Spain somewere.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Dan on May 15, 2012, 04:38:56 PM
Not even the remotest of chances of AVB, wasting your money with that one. A bad time at Chelsea maybe but there's plenty of top clubs across Europe who'd be happy to have him. His exploits at Porto won't be forgotten that quickly.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: AidantheBaggies on May 15, 2012, 05:17:50 PM
Owen Coyle anyone???

I wouldnt mind him at all.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: royhan on May 15, 2012, 05:19:02 PM
There's a rumour on twitter at present that Dalglish has left his post. I am sure we don't want this has-been!
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on May 15, 2012, 05:20:52 PM
Owen Coyle anyone???

I wouldnt mind him at all.

I personally think he's very over rated and perhaps been found out at this level. He went on a slide with Bolton which he couldn't stop last season and it has appeared to continue with them being relegated this season. From what I've seen of Bolton this season on the TV, they have well and truly been awful. Let him carry on the job ruining Bolton.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: up_the_baggies on May 15, 2012, 05:22:25 PM
There's a rumour on twitter at present that Dalglish has left his post. I am sure we don't want this has-been!

Dalglish is one of the only people who I would never support as manager at the Albion. Nasty little man.

Thank god he won't be coming though ;D
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: kris_boing on May 15, 2012, 05:23:53 PM
I love LOVE Dalglish as manager of the Albion.    ;D
Never going to happen though.   :'(
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on May 15, 2012, 05:26:11 PM
I'd rather McLeish or Neil Lennon than Dalglish!  :P
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Standaman on May 15, 2012, 05:43:01 PM
There are times when you have to be grateful that Peace is careful with money there are mistakes that he just cannot make i.e. Dalglish. I would sooner have Warnock!!
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: DaveWBA on May 15, 2012, 05:55:34 PM
Everyone keeps mentioning AVB, I don't see the attraction. Failed at Chelsea with much better players than we have, I don't think he's ready for the PL yet. Could you imagine our defence of Ridgewell, Olsson, McCauley and Reid playing his high line system? Scary to even think about it. Not to mention the wages he would want, Peace wouldn't shell out that much money on someone who has only had success with one club.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: costa blanca baggie on May 15, 2012, 06:33:02 PM
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Sealandair on May 15, 2012, 07:08:38 PM
Owen Coyle anyone???

I wouldnt mind him at all.

Took Bolton down, wears shorts on the touchline, comes across a total bell, whats not to like?
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Sealandair on May 15, 2012, 07:13:06 PM
Tony Mowbray would take us backwards, would be a poor appointment.

Would rather have an Alex McLeish and Joey Barton 'dream team' than that lying 2-faced RAT
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: rubyruby on May 15, 2012, 07:41:53 PM
I think its generally accepted by everyone that the new coach must be able to fit into our way of doing things and not the other way round. With this in mind my guess is the board will be profiling only top quality candidates who they think can pick up where Roy has left off. By that I mean being able to structure and organise the coaching and develop individuals both on and off the field with a real eye for detail. I also think the penny has dropped that If we are to remain in the PL no matter how expansive our footballing ambitions are you have to be able to defend properly or you are unlikely to survive. Bolton would be a clear example of this. Under Sam a manager with an obsession for statistics and detail Bolton never really struggled and could be gritty and defensive when required. Under Owen Coyle they have tried to expand and play a more open game and got relegated for their efforts. Swansea a very interesting team playing total football but not great defensively. My prediction is they will find it much harder as time progresses unless they defend better. Wigan a smooth easy on the eye side but unable to defend until Martinez went three at the back with the wide men dropping back in are another example.

So our next coach has to be demanding, have a real tactical brain and a particularly strong ability to organise defences? A Rafa Benitez, Sven or Ranieri type tactician would seem to make most sense.

Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Dale on May 15, 2012, 07:50:04 PM
Keep hearing different names everyday as expected! Martin Jol the latest but can't see us paying compensation to Fulham. Also why would he leave?

My money's still Hughton and I think he would be a great choice. Appleton not for me though he is too inexperienced.

We will see eh? I'm sure Mr Peace and Co know what they are doing  ;)
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: rubyruby on May 15, 2012, 07:57:51 PM
Heard today that Stale Solbakken @ Wolves was highly recommended by Roy. Wonder if he mentioned him to DA as well and the dogheads nicked in for him before we had chance ???
Pure speculation on my part but you never know.

See your angle but No in my eyes. Think WBA are looking for direct PL experience or proven experience in one of the major european leagues La Liga, Serie A, Bundersliga. Success in Denmark and a failure in Germany wouldnt add up for us at this point in time.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Quakes Fan on May 15, 2012, 08:02:25 PM
I'd rather McLeish or Neil Lennon than Dalglish!  :P

Appointing Dogleash would truly test my resolve, dead last on my list behind Kim Jong Un.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: westbrom87 on May 15, 2012, 08:06:27 PM
Wolves nick Solbakken.  Villa about to nick McCarthy.

The way things are going, there will only be good managers left for us to choose from  :D
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: FallOutBoy on May 15, 2012, 09:36:35 PM
Everyone keeps mentioning AVB, I don't see the attraction. Failed at Chelsea with much better players than we have, I don't think he's ready for the PL yet. Could you imagine our defence of Ridgewell, Olsson, McCauley and Reid playing his high line system? Scary to even think about it. Not to mention the wages he would want, Peace wouldn't shell out that much money on someone who has only had success with one club.

The failure at Chelsea was because he tried to change too much, too soon, and the established names spit their dummies.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: charlebaggie on May 15, 2012, 09:59:33 PM
 How about Carl Robinson from MK Dons wouldn't be the first manager from there. His team showed a lot of passion and desire tonight they played well
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Baggies on May 15, 2012, 10:01:25 PM
If we are going to go that far down id go for Powell. Robinson is too young and has done nothing that other Milton Keynes managers havent done already (ie, failed in the league 1 play offs).
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: charlebaggie on May 15, 2012, 10:09:44 PM
Agree his age is an issue but their last manager is now taking charge of a team in the Champions League Final
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: DaveWBA on May 15, 2012, 10:12:47 PM
The failure at Chelsea was because he tried to change too much, too soon, and the established names spit their dummies.

Well if he came here and tried to change too much too soon then I'd anticipate the same response from some of our players, rightly or wrongly. Only we don't have the wealth of talent that Chelsea do.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: TROCAL on May 15, 2012, 10:17:49 PM
Got to be Paolo di Canio!
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: filipinobaggie on May 15, 2012, 10:39:52 PM
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Baggies on May 15, 2012, 10:44:04 PM
Got to be Paolo di Canio!

More chance of Megson coming back  :D
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: KingKoren on May 15, 2012, 10:48:04 PM
http://www.birminghammail.net/birmingham-sport/west-bromwich-albion-fc/west-bromwich-albion-fc-news/2012/05/15/west-brom-baggies-monitor-paul-lambert-situation-and-bookies-fancy-michael-appleton-return-97319-30971011/

Surely Michael Appleton cannot be in the running. Very bad move if we get him.

He knows the players and the way the club operates. People at the club have been must have been very impressed with his coaching skills and credentials to take the gamble. Has worked closely with Roy, if only briefly, so it would provide some continuity. He has done well at Pompey according to most of their fans.

I still think it's too early for him but it would not be a disastrous appointment in my opinion.

Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: boing_boing68 on May 15, 2012, 10:55:50 PM
i don't want to sound negative and i'd give the bloke a chance but please not appleton.... this is a job that a decent experienced manager could have now, the only experience appleton has is that west ham game
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Critical Baggie on May 15, 2012, 11:01:20 PM
He knows the players and the way the club operates. People at the club have been must have been very impressed with his coaching skills and credentials to take the gamble. Has worked closely with Roy, if only briefly, so it would provide some continuity. He has done well at Pompey according to most of their fans.

I still think it's too early for him but it would not be a disastrous appointment in my opinion.

I hate the way this apparent quality of "knows how the club operates" gets banded about like it means anything, so does the kitman in all fairness. Sorry but now is really not the time to be taking risks, I know they got a 10 point deduction and all that but he's got a team relegated at the end of the day (with on paper was a decent squad), they were hardly stranded at the bottom either with the deduction. He's only got 6 months managerial experience aswell! Surely if were going to take a previous player on Derek Mcinnes, who has kept a club up and has more experience under his belt would be a better pick. 
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: kris_boing on May 15, 2012, 11:12:54 PM
He knows the players and the way the club operates. People at the club have been must have been very impressed with his coaching skills and credentials to take the gamble. Has worked closely with Roy, if only briefly, so it would provide some continuity. He has done well at Pompey according to most of their fans.

I still think it's too early for him but it would not be a disastrous appointment in my opinion.

He needs more experience before he takes over a Prem club.   I do think he'll be our manager one day, same goes for McInnes, but that West Ham 2nd half is too fresh in the memory.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Critical Baggie on May 15, 2012, 11:23:26 PM
AVB's odds cut again. From 20 to 16.


Down to 10 tonight now.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: lewisant on May 15, 2012, 11:55:12 PM
Down to 10 tonight now.

it would blow me away if we got him. no chance imo but we can hope
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Standaman on May 15, 2012, 11:58:57 PM
it would blow me away if we got him. no chance imo but we can hope

Really AVB? I think it unlikely but assuming that he turned up at the Hawthorns do you think we have the players to deliver his style of football?
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: lewisant on May 16, 2012, 12:24:49 AM
Really AVB? I think it unlikely but assuming that he turned up at the Hawthorns do you think we have the players to deliver his style of football?

I just remember liking Chelsea again when they got him because I read up on him and he seems an exciting prospect, maybe made the step up too soon. Do we have the quality?! Wed need some different players for sure, defenders with pace.

Anyway I don't think well get him so it's neither here or there really.

I'll say it again, get Hughton or somebody in fast because it seems there could be a managerial merry go round starting soon!
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: royhan on May 16, 2012, 04:02:16 AM
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: geoff on May 16, 2012, 08:14:04 AM
The failure at Chelsea was because he tried to change too much, too soon, and the established names spit their dummies.


Spot on FallOutBoy 100% agree
My main concern with him is could he manage a team that runs on such a low war chest that we do, i suppose he would have to take the job 1st to answer that.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: tuamigos on May 16, 2012, 08:33:32 AM
I think that a few of the managers in the frame for us will also be in the frame for Liverpool should Dogleish get the bullet, they will therefore resist us and veela in the hope that they get a call from the reds.
Long drawn out saga coming up.
Could do with J Henry giving Dogleish a vote of confidence.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: kris_boing on May 16, 2012, 08:43:03 AM
They just had Dave Whelan on TalkSport and he basically said he doesnt believe Martinez will go to West Brom or Villa but expects him to leave 'one day' to a bigger club.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Mister AT on May 16, 2012, 08:52:22 AM
God how i love all these rumours.

Different manager every day.

I believe were already half way down the line to getting the man we want, wouldnt be suprised to see someone named by end of month, possibly a name not been thrown about much.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: 17GD on May 16, 2012, 09:03:21 AM
It's getting a little tedious now, reading all the different rumours. There's not a great deal we can do to persuade anything anyway.

All I hope for is that it's a top appointment, and not an up-and-comer. Roy raised our profile, so anything short of a top manager would be moving backwards.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: B_H_Baggie on May 16, 2012, 09:10:49 AM
I'm not really fussed about whether the new boss will have a big name or be an up and comer so to speak they just need to be the right man for the job and we have to trust JP and DA to get it right, only time will tell ultimately no matter who gets it. One thing is for sure following on from someone with the profile and experience of Roy Hodgson is going to be pretty difficult.

There aren't a lot of options out there as far as I can see and there isn't one name we've been linked with that has actually stood out for me. Its going to be a very interesting few weeks coming up.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: phbaggies on May 16, 2012, 09:25:49 AM
Re Appleton knowing the club etc etc, word of warning Terry Connor was at Wolves 13/14 years and he knew the club too......
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Mister AT on May 16, 2012, 10:32:35 AM
Re Appleton knowing the club etc etc, word of warning Terry Connor was at Wolves 13/14 years and he knew the club too......

Valid point my friend.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on May 16, 2012, 10:43:50 AM
i don't want to sound negative and i'd give the bloke a chance but please not appleton.... this is a job that a decent experienced manager could have now, the only experience appleton has is that west ham game

And then the valuble experience he would of learnt off Roy Hodgson during his time with the club. Although the team had a bad second half, they had a very good first 45 minutes. The team choked just as much as Appleton, he might of made a questionable decision, but the old nightmare of set pieces came back to haunt us again. That not entirely Appletons fault.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: tuamigos on May 16, 2012, 10:52:34 AM
Appletons one for the future IMO and not what we need right now.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: boinging_along on May 16, 2012, 10:53:50 AM
If you ignore the fact Appleton has any connection with West Brom, because after all, it's completely meaningless when it comes to actual ability.  Then would anyone here, hand on heart, say "yup, he's the man for us" based purely off his managerial record?  I very very much doubt it.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: boing_boing68 on May 16, 2012, 11:23:42 AM
The only reason Appleton is mentioned is because he played for us, nobody would know him otherwise, same goes with mcinnes.

Roy Keane has come into 4/1 today. Any views?
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: charliewestbrom on May 16, 2012, 11:30:51 AM
The only reason Appleton is mentioned is because he played for us, nobody would know him otherwise, same goes with mcinnes.

Roy Keane has come into 4/1 today. Any views?

I agree to some extent, but Appleton had been working at the club in many capacities for a few years up to assistant manager, that's quite notable. Not saying it's enough for him to get the job alone but it is to his advantage.

I agree about McInnes though.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: timdon on May 16, 2012, 12:15:42 PM

Roy Keane has come into 4/1 today. Any views?
Yes, I have a view. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: tgd26 on May 16, 2012, 12:54:36 PM
Roy Keane has come into 4/1 today. Any views?

Definitely not! A complete non starter for me.

I haven't seen anything that makes me believe he is capable of delvoping the team on or off the pitch beyond where it is now.

In fact, I am sure we would see a steady decline as soon as he arrived from players wanting away to fans questioning his methods\personality.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: tuamigos on May 16, 2012, 12:56:14 PM
I wouldn't have thought Roy Keane was a serious consideration TBH
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: DudleyBaggieFan on May 16, 2012, 02:19:27 PM
Apparently we've spoken to Martin jol too. And Steve Bruce, as well as ranieri and hughton. Nothing formal yet just prelim talks.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Mister AT on May 16, 2012, 02:22:20 PM
Apparently we've spoken to Martin jol too. And Steve Bruce, as well as ranieri and hughton. Nothing formal yet just prelim talks.

That would be a huge blow to a team we aim to be following in terms of consistancy.

If we were to poach Jol from Fulham id see that as shrewd bit of business.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: up_the_baggies on May 16, 2012, 02:34:26 PM
The only reason Appleton is mentioned is because he played for us, nobody would know him otherwise, same goes with mcinnes.

Roy Keane has come into 4/1 today. Any views?

Yep... No f***** way !  :o

Would pay good money to see an interview process between Jeremy Peace and Roy Keane mind..
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: BaggieJames114 on May 16, 2012, 02:39:56 PM
Roy Keane is a non starter. Cant see Peace wanting to work with him
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: lewisant on May 16, 2012, 04:09:34 PM
Apparently we've spoken to Martin jol too. And Steve Bruce, as well as ranieri and hughton. Nothing formal yet just prelim talks.

Where'd you hear that?
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Critical Baggie on May 16, 2012, 04:40:10 PM
Dalglish sacked.

Shakes things up again.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Jack Russell on May 16, 2012, 04:52:17 PM
Roy Keane >:( no thank you. Steve Bruce >:( no thank you
Martin Jol :)yes please Roberto Martinez :)yes please
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: baggysean on May 16, 2012, 05:07:20 PM
Got a tenner on AVB at 33/1 two hours before the odds dropped to 10/1. Just a hunch!
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Jack Russell on May 16, 2012, 05:09:34 PM
Got a tenner on AVB at 33/1 two hours before the odds dropped to 10/1. Just a hunch!


He has probably already had his interview
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: jonny on May 16, 2012, 05:14:52 PM
Dalglish sacked.

Shakes things up again.

Off to villa hopefully so that's one rival and one poor cand out the way!
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Jack Russell on May 16, 2012, 05:20:18 PM
Villa and Liverpool will have the pick, Lambert & Rodgers?
Us and maybe Norwich and Swansea could well be fighting for whats left
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Baggies on May 16, 2012, 05:54:18 PM
Dalglish sacked.

Shakes things up again.

Im not sure if the managerial merry go round is great news for us.

Before the weekend, we had time to relax and do things at our own pace. With Villa and Liverpool now potentially looking at managers like Lambert and Martinez, that could in turn mean Norwich and Wigan start looking at managers like Hughton, will mean we may have to act quicker than expected.

Saw one local journalist say on his twitter that he felt Martinez would be the preferred choice for Peace. With Villa and maybe Liverpool now looking at him, our already long shot chances look even slimmer.

Hopefully Liverpool look to bigger name like AVB or Rijkaard which would stop the shake up in the league but who knows.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: GrGr on May 16, 2012, 05:56:34 PM
Ok, mulling this over here are a few thoughts.

Out of our recent managers only Hodgson has been truly comfortable at the PL level. RdM wasn't ready and made rookie mistakes. Megson and Mowbray were simply a level above where their abilities were (not to mention Venus and Peter Grant  :o)

I'd like for our new manager to have:

A. the experience of competing at the PL level, if not as manager then at least as a  player who knew the league inside out.

B. Have proven his managerial talent in some way, like having achieved promotion(s) against the odds and 'over achieved' with the resources he had to work with.

Now, obviously we are not going to get an ex-Manager of the Year like Roy, so whomever we get is likely to be less experienced than Roy. But we cannot have a new RdM either that loses the plot as badly as Roberto did mid-season.



Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Jack Russell on May 16, 2012, 05:57:27 PM
Did anyone hear Dave Whealen say on Talk Sport this morning that his manager would not be leaving for us or the Villa but he said its possible he would go to a bigger club
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Baggies on May 16, 2012, 06:01:07 PM
Did anyone hear Dave Whealen say on Talk Sport this morning that his manager would not be leaving for us or the Villa but he said its possible he would go to a bigger club

I didnt, but it is understandable why he would say it. He may feel Wigan could aim for a 10th place finish. If they can, then at they can finish about as high as ourselves and Villa can finish in our current situations. He may feel it is a sideways step.

I personally feel from a neutral perspective that the dwindling finances at Wigan mean that Villa and Albion are forward steps but by what level im not sure. I actually think if possible, Martinez should consider a move abroad where he could manage in a league that would allow him to achieve higher than 8th place, unless he gets an offer from a club like Liverpool.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: GrGr on May 16, 2012, 06:03:54 PM
Hope Liverpool go for someone like Ranieri, but wouldn't surprise me if they went for Rodgers or Martinez. Villa I think will go for Lambert.

By the look of things now after the sack of Dalglish, I think we will end up with Ollie... (but Ollie and JP doesn't sound like a harmonious mix  :P)

Is there some talented German/Dutch/Latin manager that wants a shot at the PL? :/
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Jack Russell on May 16, 2012, 06:11:10 PM
Hope Liverpool go for someone like Ranieri, but wouldn't surprise me if they went for Rodgers or Martinez. Villa I think will go for Lambert.

By the look of things now after the sack of Dalglish, I think we will end up with Ollie... (but Ollie and JP doesn't sound like a harmonious mix  :P)

Is there some talented German/Dutch/Latin manager that wants a shot at the PL? :/


Who is Ollie? the Gunnar one
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: GrGr on May 16, 2012, 06:14:12 PM

Who is Ollie? the Gunnar one

Holloway >_<
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: lewisant on May 16, 2012, 06:18:57 PM
Holloway >_<

no way! im still convinced we should get hughton, perhaps albion were too slow in acting. if its appleton ill be very displeased
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: collins101 on May 16, 2012, 06:20:00 PM
I'd personally like Michael Laudrup, good reputation in the game and hasnt done bad in his managerial career
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: GrGr on May 16, 2012, 06:20:58 PM
I don't know, if we were getting Hughton I think we would have heard something by now. Don't think we have him as first, or close to first, choice anymore.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Jack Russell on May 16, 2012, 06:22:12 PM
Holloway >_<


I agree but 90% on here dont :D

I think we should just go and get Hughton, most of us will be content with that appointment
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: lewisant on May 16, 2012, 06:25:19 PM

I agree but 90% on here dont :D

I think we should just go and get Hughton, most of us will be content with that appointment

Agreed , i think its also a case of him fitting the bill. He could become part of this club, and the building of it could be a real project and his first steady managerial job. He brings a lot of PL experience to the table albeit as an assistant.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: smethwickw on May 16, 2012, 06:40:42 PM
Agreed , i think its also a case of him fitting the bill. He could become part of this club, and the building of it could be a real project and his first steady managerial job. He brings a lot of PL experience to the table albeit as an assistant.

That's precisely why I am not overkeen personally. Yes he has potential but so did Mowbray and RDM.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Baggies on May 16, 2012, 06:52:17 PM
That's precisely why I am not overkeen personally. Yes he has potential but so did Mowbray and RDM.

We are shopping for managers who only have potential though. Yes we were linked with Ranieri but that looks like a red herring now. We could go for experience like Curbishley but he is old fashioned and then the only experienced coaches we can get are from abroad. If we look in this country, we are always taking a isk.

Hughtons coaching experience and relative success at 2 clubs as a head coach/manager are positives.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Critical Baggie on May 16, 2012, 06:59:28 PM
I think the club probably know who they are going to appoint, but according to the Birmingham Mail they like to carry out extensive interviews and gauge what others have to say. Clear to see the club are demonstrating good diligence, compared to the Wolves at least!

Looking at the odds today, seems a lot of the odds on names have drifted, but I guess that's understandable with the Liverpool and Villa sackings.

http://www.oddschecker.com/football/football-specials/west-brom-specials/next-permanent-manager

Odds mainly have been cut on Chris Hughton, Roy Keane, Lee Clark and AVB.

My bet would be Hughton.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: WorcsWBA on May 16, 2012, 08:00:37 PM
Clear to see the club are demonstrating good diligence, compared to the Wolves at least!
Aren't we supposed to have a fantastic database arising from the meticulous research we routinely do on managers on an ongoing basis, so that we're ready to move as soon the need arises? Well, the need has arisen and other clubs may well be looking at some of the people on our short-list, so it's time to stop faffing about and get on with proper interviews and appointing someone.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: wdbroun on May 16, 2012, 08:24:04 PM
AVB: It's really hard for me to imagine AVB strutting around the Hawthorns -- something just doesn't feel right there.

Is Kenny totally out of the question for WBA? It would serve him right.



Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: tuamigos on May 16, 2012, 08:26:05 PM
Aren't we supposed to have a fantastic database arising from the meticulous research we routinely do on managers on an ongoing basis, so that we're ready to move as soon the need arises? Well, the need has arisen and other clubs may well be looking at some of the people on our short-list, so it's time to stop faffing about and get on with proper interviews and appointing someone.

FFS calm down luv  ::)
We are notorious for not washing our dirty linen in public, all these processes you mention are probably in full swing as we speak.
CL said on his web chat that we are still on course to make an appointment by the end of the month, that'll do for me.
What's the saying? Marry in haste, repent in leisure!
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: DudleyBaggieFan on May 16, 2012, 08:30:09 PM
Appy is starting to get mentioned more and more now. Speeding up I think.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: WorcsWBA on May 16, 2012, 08:37:00 PM
Appy is starting to get mentioned more and more now. Speeding up I think.
Let's hope it's speeding up towards not appointing him then, as he really doesn't have the experience we need at this point in time.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: JBullyWBA on May 16, 2012, 08:42:32 PM
I fear the competition from Liverpool and Villa may kill our chances of a Premier League experienced manager.

Unless Liverpool go for Martinez, I can't see them fishing in the same pond as us but if them and Villa nick Norwich and Swansea's gaffers, we'll be under serious pressure.

I can't see us signing a 'big name'. Despite speculation, it'll all be stepping stone talk like Hargreaves and Ranieri.

I've heard Collin Tattum suggest that Blues have gotten under Hughton's skin (apparantly the bloke knows him well on a personal level) and we'll struggle to entice him.

I think we're more likely to get a foreign manager no one has heard of and for this reason I fear for the attraction of staying/ coming to Albion. I think we'll probably lose the likes of Olsson and Foster. Even Shane Long said he wants a 'big name'. A pivotal summer awaits, I just hope DA and JP's homework will pay off.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: wdbroun on May 16, 2012, 08:54:51 PM
Let's hope it's speeding up towards not appointing him then, as he really doesn't have the experience we need at this point in time.
Agree totally -- please no. It would be a huge gamble.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: wdbroun on May 16, 2012, 08:58:19 PM
I've heard Collin Tattum suggest that Blues have gotten under Hughton's skin (apparantly the bloke knows him well on a personal level) and we'll struggle to entice him.
Let's hope. How much great "dignity" can Chris Hughton have if he drops his team so easily. I understand we live in a world where money talks, but loyalty should count for something, too. Hughton needs to stay put and show that he's capable of making a commitment. I frankly wouldn't trust him as a long-term solution to the manager question if he's so willing to jump ship.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: JBullyWBA on May 16, 2012, 09:01:43 PM
Let's hope. How much great "dignity" can Chris Hughton have if he drops his team so easily. I understand we live in a world where money talks, but loyalty should count for something, too. Hughton needs to stay put and show that he's capable of making a commitment. I frankly wouldn't trust him as a long-term solution to the manager question if he's so willing to jump ship.

So who would you appoint then?
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: GrGr on May 16, 2012, 09:01:51 PM
Appy is starting to get mentioned more and more now. Speeding up I think.

Mentioned where?

Appy has to be about bottom of any 'lists' we have if he even makes them. Knowing the X and O's inside out is only half the job, then you have to be creative, highly intelligent, experienced, a strong leader and motivator, able to handle the media circus, and driven to win etc. It's a very demanding job which is why there are so few outstanding coaches about.

I've nothing against Appy but I simply think that this job is a number or two too big for him as things stand now.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: wdbroun on May 16, 2012, 09:03:02 PM
So who would you appoint then?
You're making the bold assumption that I know what I'm bloody talking about.  ;D Have no idea. Erm, Kenny Dalglish?
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: JBullyWBA on May 16, 2012, 09:11:01 PM
You're making the bold assumption that I know what I'm bloody talking about.  ;D Have no idea. Erm, Kenny Dalglish?
Haha, apologies!

 
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: BaggieBoyLee on May 16, 2012, 10:05:40 PM
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Baggie79 on May 16, 2012, 10:10:03 PM
Hughton is now odds on with all bookies.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: derbybaggie on May 16, 2012, 10:16:47 PM
Baggie79 do you expect an announcement regarding a new manager to come quickly now as regards to a lot of job opportunities becoming available elsewhere ?
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: dont ask me to choose luv on May 16, 2012, 10:23:14 PM
If anyone is looking for someone from left field how about Bernd Schuster, I posted this in March & I still think he would be a great fit for the Albion, having worked with many clubs of a similar(ish) size, (exception being Real Madrid who he won La Liga with) available, so no compo, worth a look JP/DA  ;)     

I personally think/hope Roy will stay, if he's not offered the England job.

If he did leave, a manager that I would love to see at the Albion is Bernd Schuster, he has massive experience & has had a lot of success throughout his career, he would be used to working in our system as he has done with other European clubs.

I think he would be a very exciting appointment for the fans & maybe able to take the club forward to new heights & I'm sure he is currently available after leaving Besiktas.

Only downside is he can be a bit volatile & outspoken especially with the media but you cant always go for the 'safe' option.   

Might see if the bookies will take a bet off me, for him tomorrow!  ;D
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: zippyandbungle on May 16, 2012, 10:25:31 PM
Bernd Schuster is a very very good shout, experience, world name, available with no compensation .... Very good shout.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Baggie79 on May 16, 2012, 10:29:17 PM
Baggie79 do you expect an announcement regarding a new manager to come quickly now as regards to a lot of job opportunities becoming available elsewhere ?

I have no idea but what I would suggest is that if the appointment is very quick it will be Hughton/Appleton but if it goes for a couple of weeks I think we are talking about the bigger name managers.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: nick_wba on May 16, 2012, 10:32:25 PM
Can't understand where all this talk of AVB has come from to be honest? Not saying I wouldn't want him though!
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: alex1 on May 16, 2012, 10:49:46 PM
Bernd Schuster is a very very good shout, experience, world name, available with no compensation .... Very good shout.

Talking of German mangers, I wouldn't mind Felix Magath, now at Wolfsburg. I'm sure he expressed an interest in managing in England. He has a reputation though as a disciplinarian, and often rubs players up the wrong way. Jurgen Klopp is an obvious choice now, double winning manager of Borussia Dortmund, but he wouldn't want to leave a club just qualified for the Champions League.
Of the Dutch managers, Ronald Koeman would be an excellent choice. He has just got Feyenoord into second place, their best for years. He was being considered for the Villa job last time around.
However, especially with foreign managers, you have to look at their communication skills. They have to get their points across to the players in a strong and persuasive manner. Capello couldn't do it and I don't think AVB could, at least not in English. If there's one thing the club should have learned from Roy, it is that you need to be respected by the players.  Maybe an experienced manager is therefore better if he comes across the right way with the players like Roy did.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: baggysean on May 16, 2012, 11:19:54 PM
No problem with AVB's English at all. The communication problem he had at Chelsea was the fact that the older players didn't want to listen.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Andio on May 16, 2012, 11:29:34 PM
AVB is the leading favourite with the Bookies for the Liverpool job.

However, I take great pleasure that the Bookies have him a lot more favourite for him to come to us than the Vile  ;D
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: geoff on May 16, 2012, 11:56:02 PM
Like every one else I'm getting a big buzz out of some of the names being banded about but to me it's vital that he is in place by the end of this month. VITAL
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: alex1 on May 17, 2012, 12:16:01 AM
No problem with AVB's English at all. The communication problem he had at Chelsea was the fact that the older players didn't want to listen.
Yeah he could speak English, but it was the way he spoke. But he gabbled away like an overgrown kid who'd just learned something at school. Not surprised Terry and Lampard didn't take much notice.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Dan on May 17, 2012, 12:23:45 AM
The odds would suggest we've made no real movement for managers just yet, they've not much changed really so far - bar Ranieri who continually drifts, its looking like we can pretty much rule him out. Still, its not like we're in a great rush anyway. Plenty of time to decide on the right choice.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Critical Baggie on May 17, 2012, 12:25:46 AM
Like every one else I'm getting a big buzz out of some of the names being banded about but to me it's vital that he is in place by the end of this month. VITAL

Chris Lepowski reckoned they will have someone appointed within the next week/ by the end of the month.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: wdbroun on May 17, 2012, 02:34:43 AM
Yeah he could speak English, but it was the way WHAT he spoke.
Or rather, what he didn't. Bottom line: this little aristocrat couldn't connect with the players.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Jack Russell on May 17, 2012, 07:56:26 AM
Sounds like AVB is the favourite for Liverpool current odds2/1
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: baggysean on May 17, 2012, 08:12:57 AM
AVB is, to me, in the same position as Roy when he came to us, slightly tarnished with the bigger Premier clubs. Perfect fit on a two year deal with us in order to prove doubters wrong at a club with lower expectations and rebuild reputation.
As regards him and Chelsea he was undoubtedly carrying out Abramovich's plans to cull an ageing squad but just went about it too quickly. I wouldn't lay the communication problem purely at his door, the senior pro's there knew there time was coming to an end and this with the need for results forced him out. I don't see the same rebellious characters at our place. My fingers remain crossed.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: jim68 on May 17, 2012, 08:46:03 AM
AVB is, to me, in the same position as Roy when he came to us, slightly tarnished with the bigger Premier clubs. Perfect fit on a two year deal with us in order to prove doubters wrong at a club with lower expectations and rebuild reputation.
As regards him and Chelsea he was undoubtedly carrying out Abramovich's plans to cull an ageing squad but just went about it too quickly. I wouldn't lay the communication problem purely at his door, the senior pro's there knew there time was coming to an end and this with the need for results forced him out. I don't see the same rebellious characters at our place. My fingers remain crossed.
would'nt mind avb myself or failing that benitez would'nt be a bad shout did well at liverpool before falling out with the owners plenty of experience in the top flight which is what we'll need not championship managers who have only been assistants in the premier mainly /not the same thing the more i think about it benitez fits the bill /cant see liverpool having him back and he's looking to manage in this contry again snap him up jp  8)
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Mister AT on May 17, 2012, 09:09:10 AM
Benetiz's wages would be ridiculous, he'll manage a Valancia type team soon.

Some peoples expectations on here are way too high.

To name Benetiz and AVB as the next managers are HIGHLY unrealistic.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: B_H_Baggie on May 17, 2012, 09:16:04 AM
To name Benetiz and AVB as the next managers are HIGHLY unrealistic.

I agree entirely, however us getting Hodgson last year has raised the bar for us in terms of who we believe we could potentially convince to join the club as manager. What people need to remember is that the circumstances for Hodgson were spot on and it suited everyone, I couldn't say the same about Benitez or AVB.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: baggysean on May 17, 2012, 09:16:19 AM
Don't think that AVB's next job is going to be about money, it's about rebuilding his reputation. Perfect fit with us. With regards to rebuilding confidence in a manager look no further than Roy, 'we've done it before and we can do it again'.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: B_H_Baggie on May 17, 2012, 09:20:51 AM
AVB is a young man that has had his first failure as a manager and I expect he will be looking for a different kind of challenge to managing us. His stock will still be high enough in the World game that he will still get a chance at a bigger club than ours very soon but possibly abroad. The circumstances are just different and to me make it extremely unlikely that he will have any interest in our job at all.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: baggysean on May 17, 2012, 09:24:31 AM
Noted, I just have a feeling.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: mulliganstired on May 17, 2012, 09:36:55 AM
AVB wouldn't "drop" to our level, I'm pretty sure.  He sees himself as a "Euromanager", so he'll go off to the continent to lick his wounds and rebuild his reputation.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: wba1993dave on May 17, 2012, 10:06:58 AM
I think Hughton will stay at the blues, if we're that keen on him we would of made a move by now.If we didn't get Hughton I would like us to get Gus Poyet. AVB will go to a team like Roma or Inter, and I actually think ranieri could get the Liverpool job.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: else on May 17, 2012, 10:21:04 AM
As much as I would love AVB, its just not going to happen. At first I did like the thought of Hughton, but now not so sure. I'll be happy with Gus Poyet
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: tuamigos on May 17, 2012, 10:23:58 AM
I think Hughton will stay at the blues, if we're that keen on him we would of made a move by now.If we didn't get Hughton I would like us to get Gus Poyet. AVB will go to a team like Roma or Inter, and I actually think ranieri could get the Liverpool job.

how do you know we haven't?
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Albion79 on May 17, 2012, 10:55:35 AM
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on May 17, 2012, 11:13:12 AM
I think Hughton will stay at the blues, if we're that keen on him we would of made a move by now.If we didn't get Hughton I would like us to get Gus Poyet. AVB will go to a team like Roma or Inter, and I actually think ranieri could get the Liverpool job.

We're keeping our option book open and quite rightly. I'd much rather us take our time than go flooding in and appointing anybody and then regretting it if a better manager became available. Hughton might be our main target, but the future of Paul Lambert is still uncertain and therefore, and quite rightly, we should be taking our time over the appointment and not making any rash decisions which might cost us.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: tuamigos on May 17, 2012, 11:19:47 AM
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Sessegod on May 17, 2012, 11:37:05 AM
AVB wouldn't "drop" to our level, I'm pretty sure.  He sees himself as a "Euromanager", so he'll go off to the continent to lick his wounds and rebuild his reputation.

what level - 4 places lower in the league than Chelsea?
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Standaman on May 17, 2012, 11:49:27 AM
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on May 17, 2012, 11:56:31 AM
what level - 4 places lower in the league than Chelsea?

Massive difference between us and Chelsea.

AVB can wait patiently and some foreign club will look at him, if Liverpool don't do first. Unfortunately, we're in no position to appoint AVB. A team which are in Europe, have a bigger transfer budget and could offer him a better wage are all at the front of the Que. He's a highly rated manager whose at the start of his managerial career, he'll learn a lot from his Chelsea failure and will look to correct that with a big powerhouse club.

We, in my opinion, could offer him nothing in terms of career progression apart from some mid table solidarity.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: wba1993dave on May 17, 2012, 12:03:23 PM
I would personally be sick to see keane as our manager. The guy is a complete tw#t and he would give us a bad reputation. NO TO KEANE
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on May 17, 2012, 12:05:36 PM
AVB is, to me, in the same position as Roy when he came to us, slightly tarnished with the bigger Premier clubs. Perfect fit on a two year deal with us in order to prove doubters wrong at a club with lower expectations and rebuild reputation.
As regards him and Chelsea he was undoubtedly carrying out Abramovich's plans to cull an ageing squad but just went about it too quickly. I wouldn't lay the communication problem purely at his door, the senior pro's there knew there time was coming to an end and this with the need for results forced him out. I don't see the same rebellious characters at our place. My fingers remain crossed.

I've kind of sent my reply to Godemwingie, rather than yourself so apologies.

I agree with what you say about Chelsea, he was obviously not liked by the ego's and they were probably the ones which got him sacked. However, I can't agree that AVB and Roy Hodgson are in a similar position. When Hodgson took over here, he need a quick opportunity to get back into football and resurrect his chances of managing England. Successfully he kept us up, and then lead us to two mid table finishes. He did his job for us, but also saves his England ambitions. This will be more than likely Roy's last job in football management.

However, AVB is at the start of his managerial career, granted he's had a failure at Chelsea, but he has the time on his hands to wait patiently for a much bigger club than ourselves with greater finances to come and appoint him. There are some bigger clubs in Europe (including Liverpool) which would jump at the chance of appointing AVB and therefore that weakens any hope we have. In my opinion, all we can offer AVB is a couple of years of mid table solidarity. We've perhaps reached our peak. He'd be carrying on the good work Roy had started. Had we been in a relegation fight, then we might have different circumstances on our hand, but I can't see anything would persuade AVB to come because in all likeliness, we're not getting into Europe, and we probably won't win a trophy any time soon.

If we do appoint AVB (a shock it will be), I'll happily allow you to choose my lottery numbers.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: tuamigos on May 17, 2012, 12:07:51 PM
Keane not interested

http://www.expressandstar.com/sport/west-bromwich-albion-fc/2012/05/17/roy-keane-not-keen-on-albion-job/

a blessing  ;D
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Critical Baggie on May 17, 2012, 12:09:40 PM
Although AVB is a highly unlikely appointment, I dont think he is out of our league.

Its clear from the Liverpool situation he's hardly wanted by the Liverpool fans and is already drifting in the odds. Bar tradition and being, lets be honest 'a big club', it still is a club that only finished 2 places above us with 5 more points. If this is the case and he's not wanted at Liverpool, where else is he going to be wanted in England?

I understand he can go abroad and try his trade at a top European club in some uncompetitive league but if he wanted to manage in England it's going to be hard for him to get a job at somewhere 'big', if he's not been considered by clubs like Liverpool or Villa.

The thing that makes us unattractive is the fact we don't have tens of millions to spend and are unlikely to get European future in the immediate future.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: AidantheBaggies on May 17, 2012, 12:22:41 PM
Chris Hughton will not move to WBA.

You heard it here first.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: baggieboy79 on May 17, 2012, 12:28:55 PM
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: WBAinDEVON on May 17, 2012, 12:38:02 PM
I would personally be sick to see keane as our manager. The guy is a complete tw#t and he would give us a bad reputation. NO TO KEANE


A massive ditto. No way do i want this man in charge
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: baggysean on May 17, 2012, 12:47:20 PM
Thanks LiamtheBaggie, no need for an apology. The point I made about Roy and AVB being in a similar position was regarding bigger Premier clubs. Roy certainly wasn't going to get a big club offer again and I don't believe AVB will either until he has proved himself capable in the Premier league. Moving abroad is a different matter and I agree he would be able to coach abroad with a top club with bigger and better names/players. If it comes off I will happily put your lottery numbers on with my winnings. :D
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: KnaveofAlbion on May 17, 2012, 12:52:58 PM
No Hughton eh?!

Care to add any depth to this, without gettign yourself or anyone else into trouble. Is it a case of us going elsewhere, or him not wanting the job?
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: overseas baggie on May 17, 2012, 12:53:20 PM
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Critical Baggie on May 17, 2012, 12:55:27 PM
Chris Hughton will not move to WBA.

You heard it here first.

Really? Why do you say that?
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: kris_boing on May 17, 2012, 12:57:42 PM
Any thoughts on Steve Clarke?
 
Probably going to be surplus at Liverpool now.
 
An excellent coach by all accounts.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Sessegod on May 17, 2012, 01:02:56 PM
Massive difference between us and Chelsea.

AVB can wait patiently and some foreign club will look at him, if Liverpool don't do first. Unfortunately, we're in no position to appoint AVB. A team which are in Europe, have a bigger transfer budget and could offer him a better wage are all at the front of the Que. He's a highly rated manager whose at the start of his managerial career, he'll learn a lot from his Chelsea failure and will look to correct that with a big powerhouse club.

We, in my opinion, could offer him nothing in terms of career progression apart from some mid table solidarity.

our last managers have done really poorly at career progression.... ones England manager and the other is managing a team in the champions league final and won an fa cup - i think for AVB or any manager we are a good stepping stone to improving careers.  Will a big club look at AVB after Chelsea? has he got something to prove in the premiership?

If any manager wants a challenge and to improve themselves as part of a quality organised set up that doesn't throw money at a problem then we are ideal.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: JDWest_Brom on May 17, 2012, 01:11:44 PM
Any thoughts on Steve Clarke?
 
Probably going to be surplus at Liverpool now.
 
An excellent coach by all accounts.

He resigned yesterday after Dalglish was sacked.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Boinggg on May 17, 2012, 01:13:15 PM
Neither will Martinez by the looks of it

http://www.birminghammail.net/birmingham-sport/west-bromwich-albion-fc/west-bromwich-albion-fc-news/2012/05/17/roberto-martinez-won-t-move-to-west-brom-or-aston-villa-dave-whelan-97319-30989404/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

Cant say I'm disappointed about that though!

"there are much, much bigger clubs than aston villa"

Not to stick up for the villa but i'd say "much, much" is a bit far fetched, there aren't many.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Standaman on May 17, 2012, 01:15:13 PM
Not sure about Steve Clarke, long term assistant manager or coach if he really wanted to be a number 1 somewhere he could have found a club in the lower leagues. There are some people who are not cut out to be the Head Coach - Pat Rice Brian Kidd and David Platt spring to mind. Either they know and never try or try fail and retreat to the number 2 spot at a big club.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Albion79 on May 17, 2012, 01:20:40 PM
I tell you what if i was Keanes agent he would of annoyed me now! Ruling himself out! Two weeks ago i would of been dead against him but not sure if as i have seen that many names i am just starting to convince myself, although he does have positives!

Regarding Hughton, i actually never claim to be in the know as i know nobody at Albion but i did get told by somebody who i know at Blues last night that Hughton wont be coming, he has no reason to be biased as he is an Albion fan! I dont know if we dont want him or he doesnt want it or its all a load of rubbish and he will come but he seemed quite sure that Hughton is at Blues next season.

Bring back Bobby Gould.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: zippyandbungle on May 17, 2012, 01:31:02 PM
Carlos querios
Bernd Schuster
Carlos querios
Micheal laudrap
Jean tigana
Glenn hoddle
Guy roux
Morton Olsen
Christ Coleman

Non of these in the betting , any plausible?
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: elminius on May 17, 2012, 01:38:46 PM
Carlos querios
Bernd Schuster
Carlos querios
Micheal laudrap
Jean tigana
Glenn hoddle
Guy roux
Morton Olsen
Christ Coleman


Non of these in the betting , any plausible?

I have a few opinions about Mr Coleman but I have never put him on that pedestal!
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: zippyandbungle on May 17, 2012, 01:40:36 PM
I have a few opinions about Mr Coleman but I have never put him on that pedestal!
Well if we don't sign foster he can certainly save  :D :D
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: billvis on May 17, 2012, 01:42:44 PM
Peace needs to pull his finger out!

If we don't act soon, we're going to have Mick McCarthy snatched from under our noses by the Vile.

It's not good enough!
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: royhan on May 17, 2012, 01:51:17 PM
The more I think about it the more I like the idea of Ray Wilkins - an excellent coach who has also managed at this level.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: RowleyBaggie2 on May 17, 2012, 02:08:31 PM
Peace needs to pull his finger out!

If we don't act soon, we're going to have Mick McCarthy snatched from under our noses by the Vile.

It's not good enough!

I love our fans, never more than a minute from meltdown.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: WBAinDEVON on May 17, 2012, 02:14:38 PM
Hoddle & Wilkins. Go get them jeremy
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on May 17, 2012, 02:20:39 PM
our last managers have done really poorly at career progression.... ones England manager and the other is managing a team in the champions league final and won an fa cup - i think for AVB or any manager we are a good stepping stone to improving careers.  Will a big club look at AVB after Chelsea? has he got something to prove in the premiership?

If any manager wants a challenge and to improve themselves as part of a quality organised set up that doesn't throw money at a problem then we are ideal.

Roy Hodgson had an impressive CV before he joined the club. After his failure at Liverpool he needed to get back into football to give him any chance of becoming the England boss. Fortunately, his quality prevailed and he lead us to two mid table finishes and he eventually became England boss. I do think Di Matteo has got lucky with the position he has found himself in to be quite honest. He was installed as Chelsea assistant manager before taking the regins off AVB. He's also aided by a very good coach in Newton, and the fact that the pool of players at Chelsea are far superior to ours. Had he not been given the opportunity at Chelsea, I would hazard a guess that he would be potentially still out of work.

The problem facing AVB if he joined us is what could he do? We can't get into Europe with our finances and winning a trophy appears quite far stretched. All we could hope for is a succession of midtable finishes and would that be enough for a big vulture to come and give him a chance? The way he stands, he's still an impressive coach and several clubs in Europe with bigger resources than ours would snap at the chance to take him.

We, in my opinion, got lucky with our appointment of Roy as it was the correct appointment for both parties at the time.

Also, your last point. Managers quite often fancy a challenge and where a challenge is available, its usually backed by money. We don't have a budget which would attract those higher tier of managers. We as fans think we're ideal, but the reality is those higher tier managers don't and thats because we can't offer them the budget to take us further.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on May 17, 2012, 02:24:12 PM
Peace needs to pull his finger out!

If we don't act soon, we're going to have Mick McCarthy snatched from under our noses by the Vile.

It's not good enough!

Is this serious or are you trying to wind people up?

'Good things come to those who wait'.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Greenock Baggie on May 17, 2012, 03:09:29 PM
Is this serious or are you trying to wind people up?

'Good things come to those who wait'.
I'm amazed people dont recognise sarchasm when they see it !
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on May 17, 2012, 03:11:57 PM
I'm amazed people dont recognise sarchasm when they see it !

I initally took it has a mixture of sarcasm and seriousness  :D
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: geoff on May 17, 2012, 03:52:14 PM
Is this serious or are you trying to wind people up?

'Good things come to those who wait'.

Great looking forward to getting muffin the mule for xmas. ;)
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: timdon on May 17, 2012, 03:58:11 PM
Those people who even mention AVB in the same breath as our next manager need to get real. Firstly he is taking a sabbatical, but even if he wasnt there is absolutely zilch chance of him coming to us - we are way too small. I think the same goes for Ranieri. I know we have had a couple of good seasons but that does not make us remotely attractive to that level of manager. Hopes of some people on this board are way too high imo.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: dont ask me to choose luv on May 17, 2012, 05:25:05 PM
I think some fans on here are selling us a bit short, I don't believe we are as big an attraction as some teams but I reckon the way we have been progressing over the last few years & the fantastic way the club is run will not have been lost on prospective managers/coaches.

After all our last 2 managers haven't done too bad for themselves have they? & if any supposed 'big club' managers fancied taking on a brilliant project then I think they could do a lot worse then come to the Albion.

So lets not write anyone off, its like a self fulfilling prophecy, if you think & act small time you will always be considered small time.   
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: GrGr on May 17, 2012, 05:41:53 PM
The problem is that there is a critical shortage of good managers about. It wouldn't surprise me if we have started to look overseas at this point, since the interesting British managers already have jobs and/or most likely will be head hunted by the Villas and Liverpools.
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: baggysean on May 17, 2012, 05:43:42 PM
Ok Timdon I'm one of those who
believe there's a hope in AVB coming. I also believe, in my opinion, that it is a realistic shout. I've outlined why. I certainly don't base the opinion on the past two years, I've been going since 1973 , so I've seen the reality of the club over those years. So who should we be aiming for in your opinion?
Title: Re: Next Manager
Post by: Critical Baggie on May 17, 2012, 05:44:18 PM