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Title: Anything Stoke
Post by: Red Stripe on February 17, 2011, 11:15:14 PM
Just making myself at home, hope you don't mind!!  :D

Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: OldburyWBA on February 17, 2011, 11:17:11 PM
 No doubt there'll be a few posts in here soon  :D
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: hardtobeat on February 17, 2011, 11:21:39 PM
maybe tonight maybe tomorrow maybe afternoon maybe evening................remind you of anything!!? >:(
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Red Stripe on February 17, 2011, 11:26:12 PM
Your new manager certainly spices it all up a bit, he's not too popular round Stoke..

Good!  It was all getting far too civil!  ;)
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: hardtobeat on February 17, 2011, 11:30:44 PM
Didn't think anybody was very popular in Stoke  :D
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Red Stripe on February 17, 2011, 11:38:33 PM
Didn't think anybody was very popular in Stoke  :D

I can't really argue with that!  ;D
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Dan on February 18, 2011, 01:04:12 AM
Stoke fans really are the most easily upset fans i've ever come across. I don't think i've ever seen the first page of that oatcake without somebody moaning about some comment someone made, when 95% of the time there was nothing in it.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: wbastrollers on February 18, 2011, 01:32:50 AM
Your new manager certainly spices it all up a bit, he's not too popular round Stoke..

Good!  It was all getting far too civil!  ;)

What has a charming man like RH done to upset you over sensative stokies?
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: swabey on February 19, 2011, 05:38:15 PM
What has a charming man like RH done to upset you over sensative stokies?

Every time he's come to the Brit he's been sent back home with his arse smacked, then comes out with the usual tripe about us being big bullies and not played the right way etc etc.

You'll hear the same excuses next Monday night  ;) ;D
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Dudleylad on February 19, 2011, 05:49:15 PM
At the end of the day Roy is right and many other managers say the same. However it works for you so you have to play to your strengths but its not exactly football for the purists
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: wbastrollers on February 20, 2011, 12:01:53 AM
Every time he's come to the Brit he's been sent back home with his arse smacked, then comes out with the usual tripe about us being big bullies and not played the right way etc etc.

You'll hear the same excuses next Monday night  ;) ;D

Well, you could well be right, however, the law of averages is on our side  ;)
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: baggiejules on February 20, 2011, 07:39:50 AM
Well, you could well be right, however, the law of averages is on our side  ;)

Isn't that what we say everytime??  ;D
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: wbastrollers on February 20, 2011, 08:55:18 AM
Isn't that what we say everytime??  ;D

Well, Yes - none the less true!
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: fortressbritannia on February 20, 2011, 07:14:09 PM
Well, you could well be right, however, the law of averages is on our side  ;)

Law of averages pfffffffft  ;)

We'll see on Monday
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Baggies on February 20, 2011, 07:53:22 PM
Shouldnt you save the winding up until after the game? Wouldnt want too much egg on face after all if the usual 3 points dont go your way.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Dexy on February 20, 2011, 08:21:55 PM
Stoke need to think long term,give us a result so they can have the usual 4/6 points next season
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on February 20, 2011, 08:37:13 PM
Stoke need to think long term,give us a result so they can have the usual 4/6 points next season

Fantastic thinking that, Dexy..

Three points please.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: hardtobeat on February 21, 2011, 02:24:41 PM
Stoke need to think long term,give us a result so they can have the usual 4/6 points next season
Ahh that explains why we only drew yesterday! ;)
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: albionproud70 on February 21, 2011, 04:48:06 PM
To any Stokie on here have a feeling the bubble is going to burst monday..
We are due a win and your mob aint in the best of form...
You may have beat Brighton And Hove  Albion...
But the real Albion owe you.... ;)
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBAinDEVON on February 24, 2011, 08:05:23 AM
The Oatcake,Should make for some comical reading between now and Monday.Go get your copy now :D
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: dangerman on February 24, 2011, 08:45:28 AM
A win on Monday and that will change everything for both clubs. Stoke are struggling at the moment and I don't see that changing.

Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBAinDEVON on February 25, 2011, 05:34:02 PM
I see they have a thread titled on the Oatcake     West Brom long ball, Surely not :D
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: OldburyWBA on February 26, 2011, 06:05:07 PM
I see we're getting a mention on the Oatcake from someone saying he's banned.

Just to point out capital potter:

IF YOU WERE BANNED IT WOULD SAY YOU WERE BANNED AND TELL YOU THE REASON WHY,
BUT AS IT SAYS AN ERROR MESSAGE ITS MORE TO DO WITH THE PROBLEMS SOME MEMBERS ARE HAVING SINCE WE CHANGED HOSTING COMPANY.

TRY CONTACTING US BEFORE SLATING US !!!  :-*
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: swabey on February 26, 2011, 06:11:28 PM
I see we're getting a mention on the Oatcake from someone saying he's banned.

Just to point out capital potter:

IF YOU WERE BANNED IT WOULD SAY YOU WERE BANNED AND TELL YOU THE REASON WHY,
BUT AS IT SAYS AN ERROR MESSAGE ITS MORE TO DO WITH THE PROBLEMS SOME MEMBERS ARE HAVING SINCE WE CHANGED HOSTING COMPANY.

TRY CONTACTING US BEFORE SLATING US !!!  :-*

I was going to point it out to him but if he can't work it out he's probably not the brightest lightbulb in the packet anyway  :D
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Dan on February 28, 2011, 10:46:36 PM
I know the Stoke fans turned against him long ago, but i'm amazed how bad Kenwyne Jones has been for them, but for the briefest of runs at the start of the season he's been absolutely awful. Particularly strange given you'd think his style would be absolutely spot on for them.

Pretty much all Pulis big money signings have been awful actually.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Baggies on February 28, 2011, 10:48:55 PM
One of the reasons Stoke fans are giving for turning against him. They can see they have spent a lot of money yet still play the worst brand of football in the top 2 divisions.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBArgo on March 01, 2011, 08:54:13 AM
Never knew they where a mere 5 points ahead of us, always viewed them as a different class. It would be typical of their season though now to win the next 2 games and get to the magic 40. At the same time I think it's so tight that anyone up to them can still go down. If they where to instead, lose their next 2 games then they'd be in the brown stuff.

Alot of other fans have said how rubbish Stoke's football is this season, but personally I think they'll finish about 14th and be happy with it. It's an odd transition up there, from hoofball to a bit of more class.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: B_H_Baggie on March 01, 2011, 01:31:41 PM
One of the reasons Stoke fans are giving for turning against him. They can see they have spent a lot of money yet still play the worst brand of football in the top 2 divisions.

I have stuck up for Stoke in the past, I'm all for playing to a teams strengths and they haven't seemed that bad in other games I've seen them play this season but it was awful to watch last night especially in the first half. They just didn't seem to bother mixing it up much, they almost always put their foot through it to lump it to the big men.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: jonny on March 01, 2011, 01:40:11 PM
Not many clayheads posting on here post match  :P
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBAinDEVON on March 01, 2011, 02:02:43 PM
The money these guys spend and they seem have got worse.I read somewhere on Oatcake somone say since the departure of Reid they seem to have gone backwards.They aint safe by any means
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Tipton Baggie on March 01, 2011, 04:49:29 PM
HOOOOOOOF
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: AlbionBest on March 01, 2011, 04:53:56 PM
Not many clayheads posting on here post match  :P

True, I seem to remember quite a few on here when they win!

I think they are in meltdown on the Oatcake site with all the anti-Pullis and final realisation that they don't play any football !!!!!!



Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: hardtobeat on March 01, 2011, 04:55:54 PM
i would only pay to watch that if i thought it was going to produce a genuine title/european place challenge.To have to put up with it in order to finish somewhere between 15th & 10th would be a total non starter.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: leeiswba on March 01, 2011, 05:15:58 PM
I still keep the same opinion that I would rather play like them and finish 12th than play like abit better football and constantly yoyo  :-X
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Culver on March 02, 2011, 08:30:23 AM
I think there might be change in the stroke , but very soon we will see the good result . might be today, tomorrow but not yesterday . Thanks
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBASPE77 on March 05, 2011, 03:38:27 PM
Losing 2-0 at West Ham, they have been very poor in the first thirty five minutes.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: jonny on March 05, 2011, 06:39:45 PM
Sliding down into the relegation fight now aren't they?

Hoofball novelty is wearing off!
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBASPE77 on March 05, 2011, 11:31:59 PM
I still think that they will stay up, but they wont finish as high as what they have in previous seasons.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: tuamigos on March 06, 2011, 09:02:01 AM
Listening to some of their fans it appears that the love affair with Pulis is over.
Replacement manager for next season by the looks.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: AlbionBest on March 06, 2011, 12:24:26 PM
They have been found out at last as teams pick sides to deal with thier strengths - Pullis has tried to expand their game but seems to have reverted to type over the past few months with the Carew signing sending an even bigger signal that he won't change things.

Nice to see them sweating but I think they will dig enough points out to stay up.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Dan on March 06, 2011, 02:40:14 PM
Pretty sure they'll stay up, they'll win a couple through sheer chance and probably got a couple of draws.

Although apparently they haven't scored from open play in 9 games, which must surely be a record.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: wappingbaggie on March 07, 2011, 04:00:42 AM
Obviously very tight down at the bottom with 9+ clubs in the mix...experience shows a team that looked safe at Xmas gets dragged in - is it Stoke this year?- that would be great.

If we had wone the recent match with them we'd be 1 point clear of them at the moment

Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Aixelsyd on March 07, 2011, 05:01:59 AM
I think Stoke have done aswell as they can with the way they play and other teams are better at counting it now.

TP tried to change the wat they play but has reverted to type so I'd be more surprised if they DON'T get dragged right into the relegation scrap.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Mister AT on March 07, 2011, 08:07:52 AM
Would love for them to go down this year, would absolutely love it.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBAinDEVON on March 08, 2011, 11:01:36 AM
If this lot were to get relegated with the Villa and the Wolves i would have the best summer ever.I could cope without football for a few months
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: BearwoodBaggie on March 08, 2011, 12:09:12 PM
They are struggling big time and a lot of people keep saying they will get out of it they have the experience etc... Pulis seems to have lost the backing of the fans and most importantly, he isnt getting performances out of his players.

They have played some winnable games recently, us, Blues, West Ham, and they have failed to win any of them but more worryingly they played really poorly. No heart, passion or desire, all the things you associate with Stoke. And if they don't have those qualities, what do they have? Their quality of football alone won't be enough to save them.

I'd be very concerned if I was a Stoke fan. They're on a downward spiral.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Nocky on March 14, 2011, 05:25:26 PM
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBAinDEVON on March 16, 2011, 04:15:40 PM
Did anyone hear our Frank Skinner on Talksport today.Tipped Stoke to go down :D.
They started a bitter Frank Skinner thread on the oatcake
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBAinDEVON on March 21, 2011, 01:59:09 PM
I know they had a good win on Saturday but looking at their remaining fixtures i dont think this lot are out of it yet
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBASPE77 on March 21, 2011, 03:16:29 PM
Chelsea and Spurs are Stoke's next two games, I carnt see them getting anything from those two matchs.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Red Stripe on March 21, 2011, 06:13:17 PM
I know they had a good win on Saturday but looking at their remaining fixtures i dont think this lot are out of it yet

I think that we've probably got enough points already, but yep another win would be nice.

So yes we're in it but we're in a pretty strong position.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Aixelsyd on March 21, 2011, 07:26:59 PM
I think that we've probably got enough points already, but yep another win would be nice.

So yes we're in it but we're in a pretty strong position.

I must agree with you there (sadly  ;))

It would need a complete squad melt down for Stoke NOT to stay clear....

We actually need Stoke to strongly for the remainder of the Season as four of their games are against the Dingles, Seals, Blackpool & Wigwam.......
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: fortressbritannia on April 10, 2011, 07:45:00 PM
I hope we can count on your support for Sunday's Semi-Final  ;) ;) ;D
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Political Cake on April 10, 2011, 08:46:00 PM
Wouldn't mind you beating Bolton, I actually would quite like to see how you lot would do in the Europa League. I'm sure a fair few european teams will relish the chance to come to the Britannia... at night... in the rain... ;D
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Jack Russell on April 10, 2011, 08:47:11 PM
I hope we can count on your support for Sunday's Semi-Final  ;) ;) ;D


Promise to beat the Wolves and i might
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: RowleyBaggie2 on April 10, 2011, 08:56:05 PM
Stoke are perfect for channel five, x rated.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: silver surfer on April 10, 2011, 09:08:07 PM
I hope we can count on your support for Sunday's Semi-Final  ;) ;) ;D
No, your strips horrible.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: swabey on April 11, 2011, 07:29:10 PM
No, your strips horrible.

I agree. Roll on next season when we get our stripes back.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Welease_Woger on April 11, 2011, 07:46:23 PM
As Albion overtake Stoke in the Premiership, I've got to say that our beautiful passing game bodes well for our future. Certainly is eye-candy compared to Stoke's "delap-i-dated" brand of hoofball.

It was all just a matter of time, really...
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Tipton Baggie on April 11, 2011, 09:15:47 PM
I hope we can count on your support for Sunday's Semi-Final  ;) ;) ;D
I'd rather tie my balls to the engine of a plane whilst sitting on a skateboard than cheer you on
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: fortressbritannia on April 11, 2011, 11:21:35 PM
As Albion overtake Stoke in the Premiership, I've got to say that our beautiful passing game bodes well for our future. Certainly is eye-candy compared to Stoke's "delap-i-dated" brand of hoofball.

It was all just a matter of time, really...

Still a long way to go  ;)
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Rich99 on April 12, 2011, 12:03:44 AM
I bet those Stoke fans look at us thinking 'if only we could play football like that'.

To be fair, Robert Huth, is an OK center back and his surname certainly fits the club well. :D

Hooooooof...
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Rich99 on April 12, 2011, 12:09:12 AM
I hope we can count on your support for Sunday's Semi-Final  ;) ;) ;D

I'll be backing either team big time should they get through and face Manchester United in the final.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: swabey on April 12, 2011, 02:56:58 PM
I bet those Stoke fans look at us thinking 'if only we could play football like that'.

To be fair, Robert Huth, is an OK center back and his surname certainly fits the club well. :D

Hooooooof...

Yeah , all those goals against west ham, the Geordies and the two belters on Saturday, just like watching paint dry.  :-*
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: phbaggies on April 12, 2011, 03:12:41 PM
Yeah , all those goals against west ham, the Geordies and the two belters on Saturday, just like watching paint dry.  :-*
Oh please, you're not going to come on this forum and try and convince us that Stoke play good entertaining football now are ya??  ::)
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: fortressbritannia on April 12, 2011, 03:26:35 PM
Oh please, you're not going to come on this forum and try and convince us that Stoke play good entertaining football now are ya??  ::)

MOTD doesn't tell the full story
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Dan on April 12, 2011, 03:37:34 PM
Your fans were absolutely slating the fact that your football hasn't changed at all after we played you a few games back.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: fortressbritannia on April 12, 2011, 03:55:42 PM
Your fans were absolutely slating the fact that your football hasn't changed at all after we played you a few games back.

True we were going through a shocking run of form and it has a lot to do with the fact that Etherington wasn't fully fit and Carew had come into the team and hadn't gelled with Jones. However Etherington is back fully fit and TP is now playing 2 wingers again and Jones and Walters have really hit it off together.

There seemed to have been a change of mentality after the FA cup win against West Ham that we do have good players (don't deny it we do have some good players ;) ) at the club and we can do things and we are capable of upsetting the big clubs.

Plus the weather is a lot nicer which for some strange reason make Jones play better
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Baggies on April 12, 2011, 06:00:49 PM
Cant say I will be wishing you on. Id like Bolton to win it I think as they play better football. what I saw from Stoke against ourselves was shocking.

Some of your goals recently have been very good with Etherington and Walters but it is similar to what your type of side do. If it isnt long ball - it's all about pace down the channels - one of the reasons English players have fell behind the rest of the world technically in recent years.

If you win though congratulations - it would be a strike for the "small teams" as we so often get called nowadays. Shame you have to play the semi final at Wembley and not Villa Park or Old Trafford - it wrecks the magic of the cup just because the FA want to pay off their debt on the stadium.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: GrGr on April 13, 2011, 01:10:08 AM
Yeah, the diving Jones and generally boring hoofball doesn't really lend itself to much enthusiasm. You are League One on Anabolic Steroids, lots of muscle, low brows and misspelled tattoos.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WSBaggie on April 13, 2011, 02:43:26 AM
Come on Bolton!
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: The Black Pearl on April 13, 2011, 06:36:43 AM
Stoke have managed 3 years in the Premiership, yes the football is a bit agricultural most of the time, but they have played more football this year. Pullis has done a good job with them, they have their critics, but they have had a winning style.
I think that they have been rumbled in recent weeks, certainly by us at the Brittania, good luck in the semi, rather Stoke win than the badge kisser.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: phbaggies on April 13, 2011, 08:37:17 AM
Looks like they are still going to be 'a footballing team' next season too;

Stoke boss Tony Pulis is planning a bid for tough-tackling Galatasaray defender Servet Cetin, whose Ayibogan nickname translates as "a man who could choke a bear".
Full story: Daily Mirror

 :o
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: fortressbritannia on April 15, 2011, 11:51:18 AM
Yeah, the diving Jones and generally boring hoofball doesn't really lend itself to much enthusiasm. You are League One on Anabolic Steroids, lots of muscle, low brows and misspelled tattoos.

But we're still a premership team and will be next season  :P
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: leeiswba on April 15, 2011, 02:00:09 PM
If Stoke played on the ground they would probably be relegated this season, they play to their strengths as does every other team in the division they have had 3 good seasons in the Premierleague and now look forward to a semi final of the FA Cup. Maybe if we played to our strengths in previous seasons (e.g Mowbray) we could have enjoyed their success.

Slate them all you want but they are doing now what we aim to be doing in 2 years!
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: silver surfer on April 15, 2011, 07:30:46 PM
Bolton going for their 8th FA cup final appearence.
 
Stoke their first.

Got a feeling you might nick this one.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: wbako on April 15, 2011, 08:26:28 PM
But we're still a premership team and will be next season  :P

...yes, and your style of play will still be an alternative form of torture, enjoy!
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: fortressbritannia on April 16, 2011, 07:20:44 PM
Fixture list never lies May 14th Stoke v Man City  ;)
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBASPE77 on April 17, 2011, 12:34:21 AM
Should be a good game this one this afternoon, I really think it will be a close affair.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: swabey on April 17, 2011, 06:52:41 AM
Just about to set off. Wish us luck fellas.  ;) :-*
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Lloydy on April 17, 2011, 12:39:06 PM
Is there any way that St*ke and Bolton can both lose?

Choosing between Staffordshire and Paul Robinson participating in the FA Cup Final is like choosing between Michael Jackson and Joseph Fritzl to come and babysit for you.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: RedHead_Baggie on April 17, 2011, 01:04:56 PM
I'm just glad it's on ESPN so I don't have the displeasure of having to watch it.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBASPE77 on April 17, 2011, 01:10:56 PM
I personally think that we will see a fair few goals in this game today, both teams are simlair in that they play some decent football and they can play direct football too.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Political Cake on April 17, 2011, 04:35:29 PM
Absolutely destroying Bolton, 3-0 before half an hour.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Baggies on April 17, 2011, 05:24:47 PM
The only bright side to this result is that we will finally get to see if Stoke's style of football and Rory Delap's throws do cause European teams problems in next seasons Europa League.

Ive got to admit to being jealous that next season Birmingham Fans and Stoke fans will get to witness something I have wished to see for years yet dont think I will ever which is a European tour. Trying to look for the positives and one of them is to see the intriguing battle between Stoke (Delap) and sides from Italy and Spain.

I reckon, despite what some snobbish journalists said this year when Andy Gray asked the question about barca and Stoke, that actually they might cause some problems.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBASPE77 on April 17, 2011, 05:29:18 PM
Some Bolton fans left the ground after the third goal went in
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBAinDEVON on April 17, 2011, 05:36:41 PM
Some Bolton fans left the ground after the third goal went in


Will be a nightmare journey home to be fair :D
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBASPE77 on April 17, 2011, 05:37:44 PM
It would be, they could still make the Europa League.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: kris_boing on April 17, 2011, 06:26:31 PM
If Man City qualify for the Champions League which is looking probable, Stoke will qualify for Europa League football regardless if they beat city in the final.

If anybody had said that Blues and Stoke would qualify for Europe at the start of the season I'd have said get yourself checked out.

Just goes to show that average size clubs like us can achieve great things even in these football times.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBASPE77 on April 17, 2011, 07:18:05 PM
Yes it can and who knows another club which know one would expect to get into Europe, might get there next season.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: saml30 on April 17, 2011, 07:43:50 PM
shows what can be done when the so called 'smaller teams' take the cup competitions seriously, i don't like them and never will but good luck to them
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Tipton Baggie on April 17, 2011, 08:45:07 PM
Should of been played at Twickenham
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBASPE77 on April 17, 2011, 09:24:57 PM
Just thinking if we had taken the Ipswich game more seriously or the Reading game,  we could have been in that situation.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Aixelsyd on April 17, 2011, 09:40:15 PM
Personally I just think it's brilliant for them  ;D

Well Done and Good Luck.......




I know they are a Team we love to hate but still they are a "small-ish" club in a postition we would just love to be in




Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: OldburyWBA on April 17, 2011, 09:41:17 PM
As much as I hate Stoke, I genuinely hope they go and win it now.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: kris_boing on April 17, 2011, 10:56:51 PM
No sorry - cant ever want them or their brand of 'football' to succeed.

Hope Man City batter them.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBASPE77 on April 17, 2011, 11:00:36 PM
Huths goal today was a cracker, as was Etheringtons
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Dan on April 17, 2011, 11:20:13 PM
Huths goal today was a cracker, as was Etheringtons

Huth's was a poor goal really, he didn't connect with the ball properly, it was just awful goalkeeping really. Should have been a routine save.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: OldburyWBA on April 17, 2011, 11:20:57 PM
No sorry - cant ever want them or their brand of 'football' to succeed.

Hope Man City batter them.

The only reason I want them to win is to stop the moneybags side buying the cup.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: east-stand-nick on April 17, 2011, 11:36:41 PM
I'd prefer them to be in the final than a plastic club like Chelsea though.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: wbako on April 18, 2011, 12:48:11 AM
I'll root for whichever team plays football....

...so yes, Man City.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: KingKoren on April 18, 2011, 12:56:21 AM
Man City will crush them. Too much quality for Stoke. They won't be hurt by their long balls, as they haves lots of big players.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: GrGr on April 18, 2011, 02:08:11 AM
I'll root for whichever team plays football....

...so yes, Man City.

Yep, football all the way.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Rich99 on April 18, 2011, 02:11:58 AM
The only reason I want them to win is to stop the moneybags side buying the cup.

Enough about Stoke and their rich owner.  ;D

Come on, it's not like Stoke haven't had a helping hand over recent years, to jump them above clubs like us.  How on earth have they been able to pay wages we could only dream of?!

They've both been given helping hands and Man City are certainly not a club whose fans haven't hurt over the years, yet always have stuck with them through thick and thin.  City fans have taken the Michael out of themselves for god knows how long.

Man City for me, because:

A: I'm a bit bitter :-[, I don't wish to see a club like Stoke picking up the FA Cup, it detracts from our own heritage

B: Stoke play terrible football in my opinion, football that I really do not wish to see rewarded

C: I'd like to see City win something, think their fans deserve it and in a way get one over United.

PS I have no huge dislike of Stoke in general, I think they are a good honest club, with some fans who get right behind them, however I'd just rather City win this one for various reasons.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: OldburyWBA on April 18, 2011, 02:52:23 AM
I know Stoke have spent a few quid, most clubs have but I feel the same about City now as I did about Chelsea a few years ago. All down to personal choice I guess.

To be perfectly honest the more I think about it the less I care and don't really give a monkeys who wins it  :D
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBAinDEVON on April 18, 2011, 08:41:35 AM
Well Done Stoke.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: swabey on April 18, 2011, 09:25:13 AM
Man City will crush them. Too much quality for Stoke. They won't be hurt by their long balls, as they haves lots of big players.

We knocked them out of the FA Cup last year, and have beaten them in the league. We may be big underdogs but we are more than capable of doing them.

Love from a very proud stokey this morning.  ;D
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Lloydy on April 18, 2011, 09:34:19 AM
Well done to St*ke but I hope they get destroyed in the Final. Can't stand the bitters, they are now the symbol of everything that is wrong with modern day football, but I'd still rather see them win it than see that big eared monghole Delap lift the trophy.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Jack Russell on April 18, 2011, 09:46:59 AM
Well done Stoke.Its a one off game the final.Obviously Man City have better players but for me Stoke will give them a good game
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Albion79 on April 18, 2011, 09:54:09 AM
Well done to Stoke, i hope they win in the final.

I quite like Man City, think there fans are quality but i dont like the idea of people just buying the best of everything like the clubs a toy, thats not the Man City fans fault and i expect they will win anyway.

I dont understand the hatred for Stoke, they played a style which kept them in the league, we tried to be Arsenal and finished bottom. Since then they may not be the most attractive side in the league but i think they get unfair criticism, they play to their strengths and can knock it about a bit too.

Yes they have Delay with his throw but most teams now have somebody who can launch it into the box, just not as good as Delap at doing it, Reid does it for us.

Stoke have some good players - 2 good keepers, Huth and Shawcross are good centre halfs, 2 good wingers and players like Walters look a handful too.

As i say i hope they win, whether people think they are horrible to watch or not they are a similar sized club to us, they went up the same time as us, stayed up, have gradually built each season and spent a bit more and now put themselves in with a chance of winning one of the major trophies available, good luck to them.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: B_H_Baggie on April 18, 2011, 10:07:04 AM
Fair play to them, I didn't see the game and I haven't seen the highlights but it is a fantastic result. As for the final I don't particularly like either side so I'm not bothered who wins.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: tommcneill on April 18, 2011, 10:09:08 AM
As much as I hate Stoke, I genuinely hope they go and win it now.

Yeah im of the same opinion fella.

nice too see a club get their first cup final..

 
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: B_H_Baggie on April 18, 2011, 10:14:15 AM
Just the rush to try and get one of the tickets for the final for fans now, around 25,000 tickets each is it for the final in a 90,000 capacity stadium  ::)
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: phbaggies on April 18, 2011, 10:43:13 AM
Couldn't care less who wins the final....as long as its not Stoke!!  ;D
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: leeiswba on April 18, 2011, 11:05:35 AM
Well done to Stoke, i hope they win in the final.

I quite like Man City, think there fans are quality but i dont like the idea of people just buying the best of everything like the clubs a toy, thats not the Man City fans fault and i expect they will win anyway.

I dont understand the hatred for Stoke, they played a style which kept them in the league, we tried to be Arsenal and finished bottom. Since then they may not be the most attractive side in the league but i think they get unfair criticism, they play to their strengths and can knock it about a bit too.

Yes they have Delay with his throw but most teams now have somebody who can launch it into the box, just not as good as Delap at doing it, Reid does it for us.

Stoke have some good players - 2 good keepers, Huth and Shawcross are good centre halfs, 2 good wingers and players like Walters look a handful too.

As i say i hope they win, whether people think they are horrible to watch or not they are a similar sized club to us, they went up the same time as us, stayed up, have gradually built each season and spent a bit more and now put themselves in with a chance of winning one of the major trophies available, good luck to them.

Feel exactly the same mate, if someone asked me 2 years ago which I would prefer out of passing it aroud our box for 50 minutes then conceding two goals and getting relgated playing "good" football or play to your strengths and somtimes be unattractive but stay up build on that and now be in a FA cup final I know what I would pick. Seems to be quite a few jelous people on here.

Well done to them and like it or not they are a team that we have to look upto and  hopefully follow what they have achieved in the last couple of years!
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: fortressbritannia on April 18, 2011, 11:54:05 AM
I'll root for whichever team plays football....

...so yes, Man City.

I know all the first goal came from a free kick, the next three came from a throw-in and the last one shouldn't have been allowed as those naughty boys from stoke literally assaulted the goal keeper  ::)
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: baggieboyjop on April 18, 2011, 12:19:34 PM
Fait play, don't like it but fair play
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: wbako on April 18, 2011, 12:43:28 PM
I know all the first goal came from a free kick, the next three came from a throw-in and the last one shouldn't have been allowed as those naughty boys from stoke literally assaulted the goal keeper  ::)

I know, I couldn't believe it either...you actually played football; break out the champagne! My visit to the Brit this season not only left me traumatised, it also filled me with sympathy for all you poor stokies. When a centre back is your top league scorer you know it's desperate.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: KingKoren on April 18, 2011, 03:42:12 PM
FA confirm: Stoke only qualify for EL if Man City finish 1-4.

They play each other in the league in the penultimate game of the season. Surely Stoke will just let them win, unless they have secured 4th by then.

Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: phbaggies on April 19, 2011, 01:33:01 PM
FA confirm: Stoke only qualify for EL if Man City finish 1-4.

They play each other in the league in the penultimate game of the season. Surely Stoke will just let them win, unless they have secured 4th by then.
Shouldnt be put in that situation its not fair on teams like Spurs, Harry is asking for it to be played BEFORE the final and quite right too!
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Dan on April 19, 2011, 02:01:15 PM
Even if it is played before Stoke would still throw it, its not like they have anything else to play for.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: phbaggies on April 19, 2011, 02:37:35 PM
Even if it is played before Stoke would still throw it, its not like they have anything else to play for.
Lets imagine now Stoke get smacked 5 nil in the league match everybody at Stoke whether they threw it or not would be accused of all sorts, wouldnt blame them in the slightest but its wrong on all counts.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: fortressbritannia on April 19, 2011, 08:13:54 PM
Why change it ? Why would Stoke be unprofessional about it ?

Tony Pulis is a winner, a gentleman and a top professional Stoke play Wigan on the last day shall we move that incase Stoke throw that game to get Wolves relegated. Its the media making a storm out of nothing.

Moiving the game would make it look like Stoke and Man City were going to throw it
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Rich99 on April 19, 2011, 10:37:51 PM
I'm not sure if they should, or will move it, but whether intentionally or not, it will have an impact on the result.

If you genuinely don't think that it won't make any difference, lump your money on Stoke because the odds on them winning will be huge.  I forget which game it was, it was a fair few years ago, but both teams needed a draw to benefit.  The odds on a draw were something ridiculous like 1/10, which is ludicrous for a football game: guess what? the game turned out a draw.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: B_H_Baggie on April 22, 2011, 11:13:09 PM
Just read on Twitter the Villa reporter Matt Kendrick say that John Carew is eligible to play against them tomorrow as Villa canceled his contract and didn't actually loan him out  ???
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: boing_boing68 on April 23, 2011, 12:09:17 AM
but even if they play the game before then they will still have as much reason to throw the game surely?
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Kicking Pigeons on April 23, 2011, 02:40:26 AM
but even if they play the game before then they will still have as much reason to throw the game surely?
Not necessarily. Remember that they're still only on 38 points (albeit with a game in hand) and therefore still threatened by relegation. Come the penultimate game of the season they'll probably be safe and have the temptation to throw the game. However play the game earlier and the temptation to throw the game will be gone because they'll still need the points to help ensure their place in the league.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: B_H_Baggie on April 23, 2011, 08:08:13 AM
Stoke say John Carew is eligible to play today as Villa canceled his contract and he isn't technically on loan, Villa deny that and insist he is ineligible. Could get interesting if Carew is named in the squad.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Kicking Pigeons on April 23, 2011, 03:34:37 PM
Stoke say John Carew is eligible to play today as Villa canceled his contract and he isn't technically on loan, Villa deny that and insist he is ineligible. Could get interesting if Carew is named in the squad.
Doesn't seem to be the case, no Carew in the Stoke team today.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: RowleyBaggie2 on April 23, 2011, 06:21:37 PM
We seem to have had a lucky escape with carew, hasbeen.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Baggies on April 23, 2011, 06:46:05 PM
I think our draw with Spurs today nailed on Stoke's European place next season.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Jack Russell on April 24, 2011, 08:10:59 PM
Come on Stoke make sure you beat your Staffordshire rivals on Tuesday
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: fortressbritannia on April 24, 2011, 08:45:51 PM
I think our draw with Spurs today nailed on Stoke's European place next season.

Thanks for that  ;D
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBAinDEVON on April 26, 2011, 01:52:31 PM
I read many of them would be happy with a point tonight.I hope their players are not of the same mindset
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: GrGr on April 26, 2011, 01:57:40 PM
I read many of them would be happy with a point tonight.I hope their players are not of the same mindset

If Stoke blows this one and lose/give a point to the dingles then they might just as well blow the rest of the season too and get relegated!
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: kris_boing on April 26, 2011, 02:14:43 PM
Really want Stoke to win tonight - the only time I'll ever want them to win.

Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBArgo on April 26, 2011, 02:19:23 PM
I think Stoke will win. Sure, the dogheads will be up for it and every neutral will use the "Stoke have 1 eye on the cup" excuse but lets face it. Stoke away is a mountainous task.
I just can't see the Wolves defence holding off from waves of attacks, and I think the Stoke back four will easily handle the likes of Fletcher.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: phbaggies on April 26, 2011, 02:29:28 PM
Really want Stoke to win tonight - the only time I'll ever want them to win.
I second that, it will have a big hand in us sending them down in a couple of weeks :)
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Lloydy on April 26, 2011, 03:23:43 PM
I feel dirty for saying this, but come on you Potters!

WHY WHY WHYYYY DELILAH!
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: caliban on April 27, 2011, 11:37:45 AM
Thanks for the support in this instance baggie dudes! :o

We gave them dogs a battering but you'll have to finish them off, if you can? :-\

It would be nice if they stopped up in the prem though, for next season! 8)

Well done for staying up yourselves, didn't expect that at Xmas, must've been the Roy factor.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: baggieboyjop on April 27, 2011, 01:19:06 PM
No, thank you for beating them. It made my evening a whole lot better
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBASPE77 on April 27, 2011, 10:01:52 PM
Another great win for Stoke last night, they are having a great season.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Red Stripe on May 10, 2011, 09:52:13 PM
And now Europe will be facing some of Rory's rockets, look out for us on Channel 5 in some little coner of Siberia!  ;)
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Rich99 on May 10, 2011, 09:53:32 PM
And now Europe will be facing some of Rory's rockets, look out for us on Channel 5 in some little coner of Siberia!  ;)

Your style of football should have been exiled to Siberia a long time ago. :P
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Dan on May 10, 2011, 10:08:53 PM
I can't see Stoke faring well in Europe in fairness, or Birmingham for that matter. The demands on the squad will be just too much, I think at some stage the league or the cup will have to be set as the target, because Blues and Stoke just don't have the strength in depth to deal with it, much like Everton haven't in previous years.

Fulham were pretty lucky that the teams at the bottom were so woeful that by the time the group stages ended the league was pretty much sorted so they could afford to play reserve teams in the league, which they did.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: tommcneill on May 10, 2011, 10:15:46 PM
fair play to them i say....their style works for them nowt wrong with that
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Rich99 on May 10, 2011, 11:37:34 PM
I'd rather Blackpool stopped up with their style of football, than them to be honest, that's not just a dig at Stoke...
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBASPE77 on May 11, 2011, 07:53:36 AM
I can't see Stoke faring well in Europe in fairness, or Birmingham for that matter. The demands on the squad will be just too much, I think at some stage the league or the cup will have to be set as the target, because Blues and Stoke just don't have the strength in depth to deal with it, much like Everton haven't in previous years.

Fulham were pretty lucky that the teams at the bottom were so woeful that by the time the group stages ended the league was pretty much sorted so they could afford to play reserve teams in the league, which they did.
I agree mate it will be great for both sets of supporters and it will bring in so more money, but them two clubs playing in Europe could work in out favour.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Baggies on May 11, 2011, 06:35:29 PM
I can't see Stoke faring well in Europe in fairness, or Birmingham for that matter. The demands on the squad will be just too much, I think at some stage the league or the cup will have to be set as the target, because Blues and Stoke just don't have the strength in depth to deal with it, much like Everton haven't in previous years.

Fulham were pretty lucky that the teams at the bottom were so woeful that by the time the group stages ended the league was pretty much sorted so they could afford to play reserve teams in the league, which they did.

They might struggle with the extra games but I see no reason why they will struggle.

Blues will need to sing some players because they have been lucky this season and their strike force is very average but Stoke on the other hand have a very good side now even if their football at times can be Cavemanesque.

Rory Delap vs Europe will make Thursday night football worth watching - especially with Andy Gray's last comments before his sacking about Barca and Stoke.

I think Stoke have the potential to go very far in the tournament unfortunately.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: wba1993dave on May 11, 2011, 07:35:06 PM
I think Stoke will do fine in the Europa League, like others have said i think Birmingham will struggle beacuse they dont have depth in there team, could be the downfall for them next season unless they spend big which i cant see, if Foster,Gardner,Roger Johnson get injured which now is more likely with the extra games you cant see who is good enough to come in and replace them, while if stoke get a injury to begovic they can bring in Sorensen or if Walters has a knock they can bring in Carew, thats why i would worry if we ever got in europe i dont think are squard could handle both ,not saying i dont want WBA in europe but its just a thought to think about
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: silver surfer on May 11, 2011, 07:47:04 PM
Stoke to win the competition hands down.
Delap will KO so many continental puffy defenders with his throw to the near post.

And once again English hooligans will rule Europe .......Naughty forty.......passports ready!
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on May 11, 2011, 08:40:47 PM
I'd love to see Stoke in Europe on a Thursday night. The Brittannia packed out on a cold Thursday evening for those european clubs will be a mammoth tasks. Then throw those Rory Delap throws into the occassion which I'm sure they've never came across. Stoke for all the hatred which goes to them are an efficient outfit and many clubs from Europe would struggle to deal with their 'competitive' style.

I'd love to see them progress in Europe. Tony Pulis deserves knighthood down there, done an absolute remarkable job. To even think I said that they wouldn't last past Christmas in their first season. Credit to them for proving me wrong.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Hong Kong Phooey on May 11, 2011, 09:22:32 PM
Stoke for all the hatred which goes to them are an efficient outfit and many clubs from Europe would struggle to deal with their 'competitive' style.

They've gone about it the right way since promotion.

Comfortably survived year after year, steadily improved and invested in the squad without the arrogance of thinking they've actually cracked it - they will still be looking to avoid relegation next season first and foremost.

FA Cup Final, possible top 10 League finish and European qualification after 3 seasons in the Premier League - YES PLEASE!
 
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Dan on May 11, 2011, 10:00:54 PM
I'd love to see Stoke in Europe on a Thursday night. The Brittannia packed out on a cold Thursday evening for those european clubs will be a mammoth tasks. Then throw those Rory Delap throws into the occassion which I'm sure they've never came across. Stoke for all the hatred which goes to them are an efficient outfit and many clubs from Europe would struggle to deal with their 'competitive' style.

I'd love to see them progress in Europe. Tony Pulis deserves knighthood down there, done an absolute remarkable job. To even think I said that they wouldn't last past Christmas in their first season. Credit to them for proving me wrong.

This is something of a myth though perpetuated by the likes of Sky. For starters in Europe the refs are a lot harsher, so automatically its a lot harder to play their style. You only have to look at Crouch to see how he gets punished often for merely jumping. Secondly, these players aren't alien to the nature of physical football, by the same logic England would be amazing at international football, but clearly thats not the case, Bolton as well didn't do great (and struggled in the league massively for it).

Stoke are a decent team but they are hardly anywhere near as effective as made out. There's a reason they finish the lower half of the league. Even with better players they're not suddenly going to become an all conquering unit. Certainly not without taking an eye off the league. Which is a dangerous game to play.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on May 11, 2011, 10:25:27 PM
This is something of a myth though perpetuated by the likes of Sky. For starters in Europe the refs are a lot harsher, so automatically its a lot harder to play their style. You only have to look at Crouch to see how he gets punished often for merely jumping. Secondly, these players aren't alien to the nature of physical football, by the same logic England would be amazing at international football, but clearly thats not the case, Bolton as well didn't do great (and struggled in the league massively for it).

Stoke are a decent team but they are hardly anywhere near as effective as made out. There's a reason they finish the lower half of the league. Even with better players they're not suddenly going to become an all conquering unit. Certainly not without taking an eye off the league. Which is a dangerous game to play.

I did think about mentioning the strictness of officials in my post however I decided to leave that out. That would be a problem but I don't see it being too much of a problem with regards to the long throw ins. I'm sure Tony Pulis will be aware of the strictness and yet will tell his side to not be too rash yet be competitive. As you say, most players aren't alien to physciallness but most teams which enter europe go about playing an expansive type of football whereas Stoke are a combative unit who gradually over the course of their continued survivals have added some more expansive players. They'd be something different and a pleasure to watch, an English club actually representing England rather than playing a second string team as we've saw on occassions with Liverpool.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBAinDEVON on May 12, 2011, 10:03:03 AM
Well done and good luck to Stoke
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: swabey on May 12, 2011, 11:55:32 AM
Thanks for all the kind comments but first we have to go to Wembley with possibly 4 of our best players missing and try to beat money no object citeh.

Hopefully our best chance is we will want it more than them, can't see their players (apart from Tevez) busting a gut for 90 minutes. At the moment Stoke will run through brick walls to help each other out, so it's possible.

Win or lose it's good times being a Stokey.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBASPE77 on May 12, 2011, 01:17:24 PM
It certainly is, Im hoping for a good close game. There hasnt been a good FA Cup final since the 2006 between Liverpool and West Ham.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Mister AT on May 12, 2011, 03:41:31 PM
Think ManCity will have too much for Stoke.

Be good to see them in Europe. Shows a good cup run is worthwhile for clubs our size.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Rich99 on May 13, 2011, 12:54:14 AM
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Rich99 on May 13, 2011, 01:57:05 AM
I do have to give great credit to Stoke getting to the final though, enjoy your day, Stokies!!
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Dan on May 13, 2011, 03:16:55 AM
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Rich99 on May 14, 2011, 03:16:18 AM
Anyway, credit to Stoke, it must be a great feeling for them going to Wembley today.

So much for the 'league or the cup' philosophy, Stoke have got stronger as their cup run has continued.

Annoyingly as well I don't think they are that amazingly better than us this year, fair play to them.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: BearwoodBaggie on May 14, 2011, 08:42:11 AM
Would like to wish Sterk luck for today. Hope they win the thing. Don't like them but you do have to respect them. And plus, it would be a victory for a "proper" football club over the money circus that is Citeh
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBASPE77 on May 16, 2011, 05:35:46 PM
Stoke are at Man City tomorrow night.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Mulumbu99 on July 15, 2011, 12:47:22 PM
been drawn against hadjuk split in the europa league, the hardest team possible to get at this stage
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBASPE77 on July 15, 2011, 04:00:38 PM
They have the home tie in the second match, will be tough but if they can get an away goal, there have a good chance.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBAinDEVON on August 22, 2011, 04:19:42 PM
I thought it was time to re resurrect this thread :D
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBAinDEVON on August 22, 2011, 04:21:20 PM
So most of us are deluded thinking we are bigger than them
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Jack Russell on September 01, 2011, 11:16:45 AM
Mr Crouch should fit in nicely
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBASPE77 on September 01, 2011, 11:19:46 AM
Crouch will be a good signing for them, but Im not so sure about Jerome though.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Mister AT on September 01, 2011, 01:33:14 PM
Has a good last few days.

Got a good squad up there now.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on September 01, 2011, 02:12:44 PM
Crouch, Jerome and Wilson Palacios. Not bad for a team which doesn't play football.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: KingKoren on September 01, 2011, 02:17:56 PM
They will most certainly be taking 6 points off us this season. Some very good signings.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Jack Russell on September 01, 2011, 02:30:26 PM
They will most certainly be taking 6 points off us this season. Some very good signings.

and what an opportunity we had to make that only 3 last Sunday
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Baggies on September 06, 2011, 07:31:36 PM
http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Stoke-chairman-Peter-Coates-warns-fans-20m-spending-spree-was-a-one-off-article794332.html

What happens when the money runs out. I think clubs like Stoke, Wigan and possibly Bolton have got these questions to ask in the not too near future. Coates has sounded a slight warning here that he wont be doing this again and although im sure he will still add to their coffers, the bloke is 73 now. Gartside at Bolton is 70 and Whelan at Wigan is 74. Eventually, they are going to have to sell up and it will be interesting to see how the three cope after that.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: fortressbritannia on September 08, 2011, 02:23:05 PM
http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Stoke-chairman-Peter-Coates-warns-fans-20m-spending-spree-was-a-one-off-article794332.html

What happens when the money runs out. I think clubs like Stoke, Wigan and possibly Bolton have got these questions to ask in the not too near future. Coates has sounded a slight warning here that he wont be doing this again and although im sure he will still add to their coffers, the bloke is 73 now. Gartside at Bolton is 70 and Whelan at Wigan is 74. Eventually, they are going to have to sell up and it will be interesting to see how the three cope after that.

Its a fair point to make in all fairness however we are currently pumping a lot of time and effort into our academy set up at the moment to help bring younger players throught the youth system, currently we have Andy Wilkinson, Ryan Shotton and Ben Marshall who all have/will play some part in this season and many to come. When the day comes when Peter Coates passes the club will be passed down to his two children Denis and John (who agains are all life long Stoke fans) it was Denise that persuaded her Dad to come back to the club 
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBASPE77 on September 08, 2011, 03:21:52 PM
It will be intresting to see how much Stoke spend in the next year or too.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WSBaggie on September 08, 2011, 05:52:42 PM
It will be intresting to see how much Stoke spend in the next year or too.

Not much according to Coates, but the foundations are laid so they should be alright.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBASPE77 on September 08, 2011, 09:44:52 PM
Stoke still have the likes of Fuller and Sidibe, I expect them to get sold in the January window.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBArgo on September 09, 2011, 02:02:04 AM
By the time the money is dry for Stoke, Bolton and Wigan, there will be three clubs with a similar spending mentality ready to replace them. That's the way it goes. Don't think for one second this will advantage us in the long run.
There's an abundance of top flight clubs from yester-year who fell short with finances and are now out of the top league - but it's not too long ago that Stoke, Bolton and Wigan where in other divisions either.

Basically, everytime a club gets relegated and loses its wealth, you can guarentee there will be someone financing a club somewhere else which will eventually hit the big time.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Baggies on September 09, 2011, 05:08:11 PM
I agree wbargo, but for the teams involved, they have reason to be worried.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Baggies on September 09, 2011, 05:11:00 PM
Its a fair point to make in all fairness however we are currently pumping a lot of time and effort into our academy set up at the moment to help bring younger players throught the youth system, currently we have Andy Wilkinson, Ryan Shotton and Ben Marshall who all have/will play some part in this season and many to come. When the day comes when Peter Coates passes the club will be passed down to his two children Denis and John (who agains are all life long Stoke fans) it was Denise that persuaded her Dad to come back to the club

Once he passes the club down to his children it will be interesting to see if they are prepared to put so much of their split wealth into the club. I'm not that convinced they will but you never know.

The academy and infrastructure should mean you will be safe financially but you have to produce one of the top academies around to survive on that. We have an academy that has had money pumped in for the last 8 or so years and we are still struggling to survive at this level. Your finances without Coates wouldnt be much different to ours and the only reason you are an established premier league club now is because Coates money is pushing you ahead of similar clubs your size. without the money, you rejoin the likes of us.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: fortressbritannia on September 10, 2011, 12:13:03 PM
Stoke still have the likes of Fuller and Sidibe, I expect them to get sold in the January window.

Fuller won't go Pulis loves the guy anyway its written into his contract that he must have a blinder against WBA.  ;D
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: j2burnz on September 10, 2011, 12:22:37 PM
its a joke really, when he came to England he had a trial with us , played one game, scored 2 then was promptly sent packing by Lord Gary Megson after being advised he was not what we were looking for, I was ballboy at the trial game, he was immense
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Baggies on September 10, 2011, 01:19:21 PM
Megson isnt the type of bloke to work with characters than need a lighter handling. If he feels they have a problem attitude, he does not sign them. it's what holds him back in the end because sometimes you have to deal with players who arent perfect.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBASPE77 on September 10, 2011, 03:08:33 PM
Fuller at times can be a great player, but he sometimes can be lazy and he has been in a bit of trouble.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: BobTaylor on September 10, 2011, 07:17:21 PM
Pulis might have one eye on the united job if this carries on.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBASPE77 on September 10, 2011, 07:18:39 PM
I carnt see the United faithful liking to his style of football myself.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: baggieboyjop on September 11, 2011, 08:43:30 PM
Pulis might have one eye on the united job if this carries on.

As much as he has done great things for stoke, i really could never see this happening
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Dexy on September 13, 2011, 01:03:53 PM
its a joke really, when he came to England he had a trial with us , played one game, scored 2 then was promptly sent packing by Lord Gary Megson after being advised he was not what we were looking for, I was ballboy at the trial game, he was immense
At the time we had Roberts at the club and they are very much from the same mould.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Mike on September 13, 2011, 01:12:27 PM
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Pulis might have one eye on the united job if this carries on.
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 :D :D :D
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: wbatesy on September 13, 2011, 01:37:09 PM
its a joke really, when he came to England he had a trial with us , played one game, scored 2 then was promptly sent packing by Lord Gary Megson after being advised he was not what we were looking for, I was ballboy at the trial game, he was immense

I was at that game, too. Can't be many of us that saw him score for the Albion!
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: BB74 on September 14, 2011, 03:10:06 PM
Woodgate has been left out of Stoke's Europa League squad and has expressed his disappointment. I bet that was one of their selling points when trying to get Woodgate to sign for them!
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBASPE77 on September 14, 2011, 03:17:10 PM
I thought that too, it will be intresting to see how Stoke cope with those long trips in Europe.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: OldburyWBA on September 14, 2011, 05:54:26 PM
Woodgate has been left out of Stoke's Europa League squad and has expressed his disappointment. I bet that was one of their selling points when trying to get Woodgate to sign for them!

He has stated he understands why the club have done it, last thing he and Stoke will want is more injury problems.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: fortressbritannia on September 14, 2011, 08:34:18 PM
Woodgate has been left out of Stoke's Europa League squad and has expressed his disappointment. I bet that was one of their selling points when trying to get Woodgate to sign for them!

Lets face it Woodgate's not stupid the likelyhood of him playing 2 games a week is about as likely as WBA beating Stoke  ;) he would have known that he wouldn't be playing in Europe
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: B_H_Baggie on September 14, 2011, 08:35:36 PM
Must be fears over his injury record to leave him out of the squad, I think they have a couple of long haul trips in their group so that probably wouldn't do him much good especially with a league game so soon after so it isn't too much of a surprise.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Aixelsyd on September 15, 2011, 03:22:51 AM
Pulis might have one eye on the united job if this carries on.

Hereford?
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: beechyboy90 on September 15, 2011, 09:31:32 AM
Pulis might have one eye on the united job if this carries on.

no one will get that job until fergy dies
England job! he motivates players thats what those pre madonnas need a man motivator! so either him or colin Wa**er at QPR
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBASPE77 on September 15, 2011, 11:26:36 AM
From Kiev to Sunderland in the space of a few days, its going to be a lot of traveling for Stoke.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: crazedwbafan18 on September 15, 2011, 11:33:41 AM
cant see them taking too many to kiev or sunderland really, but i do believe that they stand a good chance of coming away with 3 points in both games, especially at the SOL where things are going awol with a lack of striking power, relying on Bendtner.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: beechyboy90 on September 15, 2011, 11:36:34 AM
cant see them taking too many to kiev or sunderland really, but i do believe that they stand a good chance of coming away with 3 points in both games, especially at the SOL where things are going awol with a lack of striking power, relying on Bendtner.

good time for us to play sunderland
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: B_H_Baggie on September 23, 2011, 10:02:13 AM
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: B_H_Baggie on September 23, 2011, 10:05:52 AM
The story above is an interesting take on Stoke and their financial muscle now. If you look at all of the clubs that can shell out that bit more as they know they can get investment to make up for it if it all goes tits up. Shows you can't really do much in this league without that kind of financial backing without spending beyond your means and risking real financial trouble should it go wrong.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Baggies on September 24, 2011, 07:08:03 PM
Todays lesson, that continual moaning about decisions will eventually pay off. Pulis was one of the biggest moaners going about refs for the last 3 years.

This year, they seem to get every decision, whatever the opposition. 2 penalties not given today, both on replay look like they should. Add that to the rest of the season and the luck they have got.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBASPE77 on September 24, 2011, 07:30:12 PM
Great point for Stoke today.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Wbamitch on September 24, 2011, 07:32:42 PM
Another great result for them. Can't stand the way they play, sort of like us at the moment, but it works for them.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBASPE77 on September 24, 2011, 07:34:18 PM
It certainly does, I expect them to go on a bit of a bad run soon though as most clubs do.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Kicking Pigeons on September 24, 2011, 07:42:02 PM
(http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/55568000/jpg/_55568425_55568424.jpg)

Heil Crouch.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBASPE77 on September 24, 2011, 07:46:17 PM
He could prove to be a great signing for them.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: jonny on September 24, 2011, 09:13:51 PM
He could prove to be a great signing for them.

Fits into their disgusting brand of 'football'
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBASPE77 on September 24, 2011, 09:52:33 PM
It does, the perfect signing for them.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: fortressbritannia on September 24, 2011, 09:58:52 PM
Fits into their disgusting brand of 'football'

Winning  :D :D :D
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: AlbionBest on September 24, 2011, 10:04:05 PM
What cannot be denied is a quite amazing run of key and vital decisions that seemed to have gone their way in almost every game so far..........fair play but they seem to be riding their luck and, surely, it will run out soon ?
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBASPE77 on September 24, 2011, 10:18:21 PM
They will get a dodgy decsion against them, they will let in a sloppy goal, Im sure of it. But they have had a great start to the season.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: fortressbritannia on September 25, 2011, 02:35:31 PM
What cannot be denied is a quite amazing run of key and vital decisions that seemed to have gone their way in almost every game so far..........fair play but they seem to be riding their luck and, surely, it will run out soon ?

We had more than our fair share of awful decisions this time last year, Karma
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Baggies on September 25, 2011, 07:39:45 PM
We had more than our fair share of awful decisions this time last year, Karma

I think it's a Stoke mentality to believe everybody is against you. I dont really think there is much karma in football, we have never had a run of things go our way despite the bad decisions we have suffered in our premier league history (our first season being the most obvious where by the end even Sky were running montages).

You have been getting very lucky - I think more good luck than bad luck over the course of the last season and now this one.

Your record this season does deserve credit though. Pulis has found a way to make you very difficult to beat despite having played Man Utd, Chelsea, D.Kiev and Liverpool. Even with your squad being a mini version of Chelsea/Man City (certainly more money thrown around than the more publicised QPR) you still deserve applause for your results.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: swabey on September 29, 2011, 04:07:08 PM
Should be a good night against the Turks, I believe over a thousand have turned up. Sun beer and football, it doesn't get much better. :)
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Lloydy on September 29, 2011, 06:08:32 PM
Good luck to Stoke tonight, I hate Stoke more than a lot of things, but not the Turks. Turkey can **** off.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on September 29, 2011, 06:45:06 PM
I'm hoping for a Stoke victory tonight aswell, will be interesting too see Rory Delap chucking the ball at them Turks, if not him then Ryan Shotton.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBASPE77 on September 29, 2011, 06:55:27 PM
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WSBaggie on September 29, 2011, 08:04:19 PM
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: wbako on September 29, 2011, 08:31:30 PM
Stoke are utterly abhorrent to watch.

I've been reading reports that they have been playing more attractive football this season.....yeeeeh, ok.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on September 29, 2011, 08:52:13 PM
I don't think they've done too bad in honesty, struggling down that left with Huth at left back.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: wbako on September 29, 2011, 08:55:44 PM
I don't think they've done too bad in honesty, struggling down that left with Huth at left back.

Hmmm, if you say so.

They are trying to foul/cheat their way into the match, because at the moment they are being completely outplayed in open play.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on September 29, 2011, 09:07:21 PM
Hmmm, if you say so.

They are trying to foul/cheat their way into the match, because at the moment they are being completely outplayed in open play.

I think you're allowing your hatred for Stoke to get in the way myself. I don't see where they've cheated at all, bar a touch of pushing and shoving from corner kicks from both sides. Admittedly, in open play you expect to Besiktas to outclass them.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Quakes Fan on September 29, 2011, 09:08:48 PM
They need Zigic in there with Crouch.  ;D
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: wbako on September 29, 2011, 09:53:25 PM
I think you're allowing your hatred for Stoke to get in the way myself. I don't see where they've cheated at all, bar a touch of pushing and shoving from corner kicks from both sides. Admittedly, in open play you expect to Besiktas to outclass them.

You were saying?

Top cheating Crouchy!
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on September 29, 2011, 10:39:11 PM
You were saying?

Top cheating Crouchy!

He had his arm rounds pulling him to the ground. Even Lou Macari said it was a penalty! They know the rules, you can't man handle players nowadays, Crouch used it to his advantage.

Well done Stoke anyway.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: wbako on September 29, 2011, 10:55:24 PM
He had his arm rounds pulling him to the ground. Even Lou Macari said it was a penalty! They know the rules, you can't man handle players nowadays, Crouch used it to his advantage.

Well done Stoke anyway.

...'even Lou Macari said it was a penalty', come on, are you being serious? he is the most blindly biased pundit in the country. It was a dive. Someone touching you on your waist does not cause your legs to give way.

Look, I can't be arsed to argue. You think Stoke play good football; I think they cheat and used detestable tactics. Lets leave it there.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBASPE77 on September 30, 2011, 07:57:03 AM
Well done Stoke great win last night.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: swabey on September 30, 2011, 09:59:33 AM
...'even Lou Macari said it was a penalty', come on, are you being serious? he is the most blindly biased pundit in the country. It was a dive. Someone touching you on your waist does not cause your legs to give way.

Look, I can't be arsed to argue. You think Stoke play good football; I think they cheat and used detestable tactics. Lets leave it there.

Thanks for your comments. A little task for you, try to find a report that says it was not a penalty. :-*

A great result against a very good side. Their number 7 Quaresma was fantastic.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: RowleyBaggie2 on September 30, 2011, 10:17:02 AM
Some of our lot starting to sound a little bitter.

Personally it's good to see a different team firstly getting to a cup final and secondly doing well in Europe - i'd even have liked them to win the FA cup purely to stop greed prevailing.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: wbako on September 30, 2011, 10:24:43 AM
Thanks for your comments. A little task for you, try to find a report that says it was not a penalty. :-*

A great result against a very good side. Their number 7 Quaresma was fantastic.

If you think that it was a penalty then fair enough. Same goes for the Walters "dive" against Liverpool. I'm just saying that if I did that for my sunday league team I'd get laughed off the park and probably a smack around the chops for my troubles. It's cheating, albeit clever cheating.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: swabey on September 30, 2011, 10:30:07 AM
I was quite choked up last night as they walked out. I honestly never thought i'd be watching my team in an FA cup final and playing in Europe in my lifetime.

If only we could stop being so crap away from home we'd storm this league. ;D

I'm not daft enough to think this will never end, but in football you have to enjoy the good times while they last.

A 4-0 drubbing in Swansea on Sunday will bring me back down to earth no doubt..
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: wbako on September 30, 2011, 10:31:04 AM
Some of our lot starting to sound a little bitter.

Personally it's good to see a different team firstly getting to a cup final and secondly doing well in Europe - i'd even have liked them to win the FA cup purely to stop greed prevailing.

Contrary to popular belief I am happy seeing Stoke in the UEFA cup. I'm sick of seeing the same old clubs representing England season after season. I also have quite a few Stokie mates and they are good lads and deserve the chance to follow their team around Europe.

That said, I will continue to critisize and mock their style of play whenever I like. If that makes me bitter then so be it.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: leeiswba on September 30, 2011, 01:46:07 PM
You werent moaning about Odemwingie against Everton in cup, because from where I was it looked like a dive.

I cant see how anyone of us can really slag Stoke off, they are role models for teams like us whether you like it or not, doing consitantly well in the league and also doing well in Europe, the whole cheating and diving there way to success gets abit boring after a bit.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: BobTaylor on September 30, 2011, 02:04:33 PM
 He did for Longs blatant dive against fulham, i am the same and have to agree with wbako stoke go out with the intention to cheat and hurt people, i have no respect for them.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBArgo on September 30, 2011, 02:30:21 PM
I was quite choked up last night as they walked out. I honestly never thought i'd be watching my team in an FA cup final and playing in Europe in my lifetime.

If only we could stop being so crap away from home we'd storm this league. ;D

I'm not daft enough to think this will never end, but in football you have to enjoy the good times while they last.

A 4-0 drubbing in Swansea on Sunday will bring me back down to earth no doubt..

You have a point. From what I've seen, away from home Stoke look like their stereotype: Dull, boring, hoofball and battle hard for a point. At home they're actually good to watch, pass it around better and attack much more. I guess it's a lesson of 'home advantage' and explains why Stoke fans say their football isn't ugly whilst others say the opposite (Because Stoke fans see their home games which are ok on the eye, whilst the others see their away performances which are boring)
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: wbako on September 30, 2011, 04:06:50 PM
You werent moaning about Odemwingie against Everton in cup, because from where I was it looked like a dive.

I cant see how anyone of us can really slag Stoke off, they are role models for teams like us whether you like it or not, doing consitantly well in the league and also doing well in Europe, the whole cheating and diving there way to success gets abit boring after a bit.

If you'd have followed my posting history carefully you'll know I am one of the biggest critics of any kind of cheating, be it by an Albion player or otherwise. As for the Odemwingie incident, I only saw it the once, but it looked like a pen to me. The keeper caught him and took his legs away.

I can slag Stoke off because I feel that their constant bending of the rules amounts to cheating. Plus their style of play - which is solely geared towards gaining free-kicks, throw-ins and corners - is not how I was brought up to play football, and likewise is not the kind of football I enjoy watching. This is a game of opinions, therefore they are open to criticism like any other team. It doesn't mean you have to agree with me and vice versa. I wouldn't really call Stoke our role models, either, for the simple reason that they spend far more money than we do.


This will be my last post in this thread by the way.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: leeiswba on September 30, 2011, 04:28:38 PM
If you'd have followed my posting history carefully you'll know I am one of the biggest critics of any kind of cheating, be it by an Albion player or otherwise. As for the Odemwingie incident, I only saw it the once, but it looked like a pen to me. The keeper caught him and took his legs away.

I can slag Stoke off because I feel that their constant bending of the rules amounts to cheating. Plus their style of play - which is solely geared towards gaining free-kicks, throw-ins and corners - is not how I was brought up to play football, and likewise is not the kind of football I enjoy watching. This is a game of opinions, therefore they are open to criticism like any other team. It doesn't mean you have to agree with me and vice versa. I wouldn't really call Stoke our role models, either, for the simple reason that they spend far more money than we do.


This will be my last post in this thread by the way.


No need for it to be mate, didnt mean to come across as if I was having a go and you make a good point about them having more money than us. But they are a similar size club to us or maybe we are a little bigger than them, I just think that we need to look at them and like the fact that it isnt impossible for us to get to cup finals and european  football.

And I dont agree with diving and what not but unfortunately its part of the game now but I dont think Stoke do it more than anyone else
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBASPE77 on October 01, 2011, 09:37:39 PM
It should be intresting to see how they get on against Swansea tomorrow.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: The Black Pearl on October 02, 2011, 08:38:55 PM
It should be intresting to see how they get on against Swansea tomorrow.

They lost 2-0, perhaps we underestimated Swansea as much as the players did.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on October 02, 2011, 09:33:05 PM
They lost 2-0, perhaps we underestimated Swansea as much as the players did.


Could say that but aren't Stoke awful away from home? Amazing how they're awful away yet come to our place and pick up three points. Infact, I'm going to credit Swansea and Brendan Rodgers, I hope their style and phillosphies work during the season, as long as it isn't at our exspense. This their 4th clean sheet? I know they've kept a few now.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBASPE77 on October 02, 2011, 09:35:13 PM

Could say that but aren't Stoke awful away from home? Amazing how they're awful away yet come to our place and pick up three points. Infact, I'm going to credit Swansea and Brendan Rodgers, I hope their style and phillosphies work during the season, as long as it isn't at our exspense. This their 4th clean sheet? I know they've kept a few now.
It is there fourth, yet to concede at home. Stoke were lucky to have 11 men on the pitch today.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on October 02, 2011, 10:28:19 PM
It is there fourth, yet to concede at home. Stoke were lucky to have 11 men on the pitch today.

Quite unbeliveable is that statistic from Swansea. It's taken us 45 Premier League games to get to 4 clean sheets, it's taken Swansea 7. I wouldn't say any of their personnel is much better than ours either. Just shows how poor we've been defensively.

Apologies for going off on a tangent, a thread about Stoke and I'm rabbling on about Swansea's clean sheets!
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: swabey on October 03, 2011, 11:24:41 AM
As I have already mentioned we are shocking away from home. TP still goes out with the mentality that a point will be good and very occasionally we may nick all three. 1,800 there yesterday and after this and the Sunderland performance many were saying they can't justify it anymore.

Fantastic at home, bloody awful away. :(
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Lloydy on October 03, 2011, 11:34:51 AM
TP still goes out with the mentality that a point will be good and very occasionally we may nick all three.

Sounds familiar. :(
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WSBaggie on November 07, 2011, 02:23:19 AM
They were rubbish today some fans even calling for Pulis head (the usual every couple or so months)
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Political Cake on November 07, 2011, 04:11:23 PM
Sounds familiar. :(

Nicely enough, it often equals survival. :P
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Dudleylad on November 07, 2011, 04:14:02 PM
Exactly Political Cake, its the way clubs of ours and Stokes status can stay in this league on a regular basis.

However Stokes form is also a sign of how Europa League football can be a major hinderance
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Jack Russell on November 07, 2011, 04:16:39 PM
Tony and Roy are best of buddies i hear.Tactical meeting of theirs must be very exciting
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBASPE77 on November 07, 2011, 07:48:06 PM
Some Stoke fans are blaming the Europa League for losing five nil Yesterday. Bit I carnt see that if Stoke hadnt played on Thursday that they would have lost five nil Yesterday.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Red Stripe on November 15, 2011, 02:21:29 AM
Nowt to do with Europe, we were just rubbish (as we have been for a few games now).  We've got a run of home matches now so I expect our form to pick up again.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBASPE77 on November 15, 2011, 08:02:10 AM
QPR at home for Stoke at the weekend should be a tough game but I think you will beat them.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WSBaggie on November 20, 2011, 02:40:46 PM
Pulis is quite a hated man at the moment  :)
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBASPE77 on November 21, 2011, 08:03:11 AM
He is when was the last time they lost two at home. They have Blackburn next week.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: wba1993dave on November 21, 2011, 08:35:39 AM
There be fine but i doubt they will finish top 6 like some pundits predicted.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: tuamigos on November 21, 2011, 11:19:03 AM
Tony and Roy are best of buddies i hear.Tactical meeting of theirs must be very exciting

Be like a conversation between the chuckle brothers!
To me, to you, to me.......................
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBAinDEVON on November 21, 2011, 11:28:28 AM
All the money they have spent, no supprise the natives are restless, oh well at least they have another 3 points to look forward to before the season ends
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: AlbionBest on January 16, 2012, 11:02:18 PM
This thread needs to be to the fore during this week's build up !

HOOOFFFFFFF !!!    ;D
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Rich99 on January 16, 2012, 11:05:41 PM
The last I heard they were thinking about bringing in a 6ft 5 + lump to play up top alongside Crouch.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBASPE77 on January 17, 2012, 09:24:05 AM
I hope we dont have to deal with many long throws in on Saturday.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: swabey on January 17, 2012, 12:13:25 PM
We're playing some really nice stuff at home recently. Crouch is quality. I think you'll find it tough to end the jinx this weekend.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBASPE77 on January 17, 2012, 05:18:55 PM
We're playing some really nice stuff at home recently. Crouch is quality. I think you'll find it tough to end the jinx this weekend.
It will be tough mate, but we are long over due a win so hopefully for once we will beat you.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBAinDEVON on January 20, 2012, 04:32:10 PM
Do i recall they didnt sell out at the Hawthorns earlier this season.Just a bit of banter about us not selling out for the game tomorrow at their place on the Oatcake
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: the rainbow turn east on January 20, 2012, 04:42:42 PM
Do i recall they didnt sell out at the Hawthorns earlier this season.Just a bit of banter about us not selling out for the game tomorrow at their place on the Oatcake

I dont blame the die hard Albion fans for not travelling up to the Britannia Stadium because its an
absolute dump .
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: smosher34 on January 20, 2012, 05:44:59 PM
dont agree with that mate its a nice ground just whats in it  :P  good ground with loads of parking .
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: The Black Pearl on January 22, 2012, 07:23:58 AM
All a bit quiet from the Stokies is'nt it. ;D
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBAinDEVON on January 31, 2012, 02:15:08 PM
All a bit quiet from the Stokies is'nt it. ;D


Dont speak to soon :D
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBASPE77 on February 07, 2012, 09:04:47 AM
They have lost three on the spin now, not looking so good for Stoke now. They dont score many goals either.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBASPE77 on February 11, 2012, 11:56:54 PM
A lot of Stoke fans moaning tonight on the oatcake.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: AlbionLegend on February 12, 2012, 08:43:27 AM
I still think they will be fine.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBASPE77 on February 12, 2012, 09:12:29 AM
I do aswell, but you would have thought they were five points a drift at the bottom of the table.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Rich99 on March 22, 2012, 12:11:03 AM
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: crazedwbafan18 on March 24, 2012, 02:14:35 AM
oh for goodness sake thats crazy. still love the fact we did these 2-1, even 2 months on. that game really makes me smile thinking about it, good times :D
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Quakes Fan on July 29, 2012, 09:25:46 PM
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: costa blanca baggie on July 29, 2012, 10:15:11 PM
Classic banner. ;D
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Quakes Fan on July 29, 2012, 10:24:20 PM
Classic banner. ;D

 :) I liked it too. Those are some seriously belligerent fans in Orlando City. They have that ownership and player connexion with Stoke, and a loan or two from Stoke could make a huge difference to them in the future.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Standaman on July 30, 2012, 12:11:46 AM
How to win friends and influence people the clayhead way :)
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: TheJacko2000 on July 30, 2012, 12:37:59 AM
How to win friends and influence people the clayhead way :)

Seems both clubs and staff are more upset with the referee than with each other?
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: rubyruby on July 30, 2012, 03:16:05 PM
I was going to find an internet stream then I realised the Womens 10 metre Pistol was on........ ::)
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Quakes Fan on August 02, 2012, 08:28:14 AM
Stoke's pre-season tour of the US has been a sorry affair. They were dominated by Columbus Crew, lucky to lose by only 2-1. They eked out a 1-0 win against third-division club Orlando City amidst scuffles and cheap shots.

Then last night they faced Sporting Kansas City's reserves and accomplished little more than boring everyone until the 84th minute, when they received a gift of a feathery soft penalty to take a 1-0 lead. But in added time, Asmir Begovic set things right (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJkE12Wb6kE#t=2h9m58s).

I had a right chuckle over that.  ;D
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: KingKoren on August 06, 2012, 07:33:16 PM
Stoke have become so unoriginal and stale (not The Wolves manager) and I can see them struggling this season. Kightly is just the typical winger Pulis likes - no doubt Pulis will ad a few 6ft giants to compliment the squad. They seem to have been in a steady decline; I think the fans are losing patience with Pulis and the brand of football being served up as well - they may be a good outside bet for relegation.

I've seen they are bringing in a giant American player as well.  ::)
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Quakes Fan on August 06, 2012, 08:05:24 PM
To be fair to Cameron, he's known for being good on the ball, and MLS does have larger centre-halves. 6' 5" Bryan Gaul (http://www.mlssoccer.com/matchcenter/2012-08-05-sea-v-la/highlights?videoID=195576) would be perfect for them.  ::)
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Webby on August 07, 2012, 12:53:16 PM
Tempted to put money on them going down this year. Think this is the year they are going to struggle.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: rubyruby on August 07, 2012, 02:33:12 PM
Tempted to put money on them going down this year. Think this is the year they are going to struggle.

I know what you mean exactly but sadly I cant see it happening. Pulis is arguably the most ruthless PL manager. He is so focussed on results at the expense of any sort of entertainment that it wont happen. They are just so strong physically. I have a number of Clayheads at work and when you talk to them they are totally fed up with Pulis and his approach. They want to see some football for their cash but he has a lot of power at that club
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Webby on August 07, 2012, 02:47:46 PM
Dunno we finally broke our hoodoo just think that they've been well and truely worked out now... Hope so anyway, would anyone actually miss them?

Yes results are everything but Pulis said they had a 3 season plan in the Prem to change their style.... 4th year here now and they still play EXACTLY the same way... Boring, physical hoofball.

Yes they have the odd game or 2 where they may do a few nice passing moves but they've still only had 1 or 2 games(?) in 3 seasons where they have had 50% or more possession...
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: rubyruby on August 07, 2012, 07:33:11 PM
Dunno we finally broke our hoodoo just think that they've been well and truely worked out now... Hope so anyway, would anyone actually miss them?

Yes results are everything but Pulis said they had a 3 season plan in the Prem to change their style.... 4th year here now and they still play EXACTLY the same way... Boring, physical hoofball.

Yes they have the odd game or 2 where they may do a few nice passing moves but they've still only had 1 or 2 games(?) in 3 seasons where they have had 50% or more possession...

Think theres more than a few Stoke fans who wouldnt miss Pulis. Nothing Id like more than to see that lot dumped in the Championship
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBArgo on August 07, 2012, 07:39:14 PM
Stoke won't go down, their squad is too good and Pulis is a good manager, results wise.

People are forgetting that last year they played an extra 10+ games in the Europa league, with a fairly strong side put out. This harmed them greatly in the league and it wasn't until they went out that results picked up a bit - because it negatively affected their season, which it's known to do. Immediately, they don't have that 'distraction' this season, which will make their season that bit easier.

As for their style, I think they are very 'unique' to put it kindly. I think if you watch their home games, they're much more exciting. They aren't that bad at home - as they have to attack more. They have to gamble a bit, which means more attractive football. Away however, I think they certainly back up their stereotype as they defend for bitter life, play the counter and use their physicality as much as possible.

I do also think they've 'changed' over the years, to a slightly more attractive style. Originally it was quite insane. Many goals came for Fulop's throws which were eventually 'found out' about. However, since then they've added the likes of Pennant and Etherington down the years; which have given them new width. You can't deny that the likes of Huth and a developed Shawcross aren't better than Sonko and Cort either, so improvements have been made. Because of this, they will be fine.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBAinDEVON on August 08, 2012, 08:59:44 AM
They will have Owen on board pretty soon.Cant see them going down
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: LoxleyBaggie on August 09, 2012, 05:13:53 PM
Kightly now set to master the art of winning throw-ins.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: KingKoren on August 26, 2012, 12:56:04 PM
That tall American player starts for Stoke against Arsenal.

Quakes assured me he's good on the ball and not just in there for his height. I will judge his worth on this one performance today.  :P
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Quakes Fan on August 26, 2012, 01:13:06 PM
Forget that. Judge him the first time he touches the ball.  ;) Actually, just save yourself the trouble and write him off now for having come from MLS.  ;D

He's good on the ball for MLS. Not as good as Tim Ream (6' 1", Bolton), but better than most MLS defenders and definitely not a stiff like Bryan Gaul (6' 5", LA Galaxy).
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: KingKoren on August 26, 2012, 01:21:37 PM
I think you are backtracking Quakes. I'm expecting big things.

He is playing in midfield today.  I think Stoke are going to go direct.  ;D
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Quakes Fan on August 26, 2012, 01:25:04 PM
You can't possibly think I meant he was good on the ball by Premier League standards.  ???

Wait, midfield? This should be interesting.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: KingKoren on August 26, 2012, 01:27:54 PM
You can't possibly think I meant he was good on the ball by Premier League standards.  ???

Better than Messi you said  :P

This is Stoke he'll probably be better on the ball than most of them.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Quakes Fan on August 26, 2012, 01:31:03 PM
lol only Stoke would look at a 6' 3" MLS centre-half and think, "Midfielder. We already have bigger centre-halves."
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Quakes Fan on August 26, 2012, 01:34:35 PM
Good start for Cameron.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: KingKoren on August 26, 2012, 01:36:39 PM
Good start for Cameron.

You were right he is amazing.

Showing signs of being a decent footballer. Pulis always finds these tiki taka players.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Standaman on August 26, 2012, 02:58:49 PM
Quakes in Cameron's case it is not a question of prejudging a player on the basis of where he has come from it is a case of prejuding a player because of where he has gone to.  ;D
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: KingKoren on August 26, 2012, 03:42:03 PM
Cameron did pretty well. Some Stokies seem to agree

http://oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=Potters&action=display&thread=197806

Terrible game though. Giroud nearly scored a wonder goal at the end. That's about it.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: richjonawba on August 26, 2012, 03:54:43 PM
Cameron did pretty well. Some Stokies seem to agree

http://oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=Potters&action=display&thread=197806

Terrible game though. Giroud nearly scored a wonder goal at the end. That's about it.

it was awful, Stoke really shouldn't ever be on TV
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Quakes Fan on August 26, 2012, 07:37:12 PM
Quakes in Cameron's case it is not a question of prejudging a player on the basis of where he has come from it is a case of prejuding a player because of where he has gone to.  ;D

 ;D

KK and I were just having a laugh. The Sherjill MacDonald move has turned him into the UK's number one MLS fan.  :P


Cameron did pretty well. Some Stokies seem to agree

http://oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=Potters&action=display&thread=197806 (http://oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=Potters&action=display&thread=197806)

Terrible game though. Giroud nearly scored a wonder goal at the end. That's about it.

I thought he had quite a good first half, but I fell asleep at about half time -- literally, right there in my chair -- so I missed the second half. Stoke football, the cure for insomnia.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: rubyruby on August 26, 2012, 07:40:14 PM
Stoke City Football Club. there should be a full investigation by the West Midlands Serious Fraud Squad...................... ???
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: KingKoren on August 26, 2012, 07:46:26 PM
;D

KK and I were just having a laugh. The Sherjill MacDonald move has turned him into the UK's number one MLS fan.  :P


I thought he had quite a good first half, but I fell asleep at about half time -- literally, right there in my chair -- so I missed the second half. Stoke football, the cure for insomnia.

Sherjill Macdonald will do that to you. Would rather watch him than Messi.

I crowbarred my eyes open to watch it and he continued in the same vein. He needs to work on his long throw though.  ;D
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Quakes Fan on August 26, 2012, 07:58:49 PM
Sherjill Macdonald will do that to you. Would rather watch him than Messi.

I crowbarred my eyes open to watch it and he continued in the same vein. He needs to work on his long throw though.  ;D

Pulis must have soiled himself the first time he saw it.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: KingKoren on August 26, 2012, 08:25:57 PM
Pulis must have soiled himself the first time he saw it.

Pulis doesn't need to watch him play, or even know anything about him, after he sees that long throw he's going to sign that contract.

The long throw is one of the most revolutionary and exhilarating tactics in football. Very few have the gift. Messi doesn't, Ronaldo doesn't - only properly gifted players... Like Shotton and Delap etc

Tony Pulis, football's pioneer.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBAinDEVON on August 31, 2012, 10:09:39 AM
Frittering money as per.I hear Owen and Carlie Adam will sign for them today.Last resort for owen
No doubt Sky will be at the britainnia today covering their new array of starrs with excited Clayheads in the backround
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Standaman on August 31, 2012, 10:34:27 AM
Adam was not getting a kick at Liverpool still won't at Stoke but at least he will get to run round the pitch while the ball sails over his head :D
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: KingKoren on August 31, 2012, 10:41:07 AM
Adam was not getting a kick at Liverpool still won't at Stoke but at least he will get to run round the pitch while the ball sails over his head :D

He might get to take the set-pieces - the only time he'll touch the ball mind.  ;D
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: GrGr on August 31, 2012, 10:47:59 AM
Adam will still fit right in, he'll get to kick the crap out of opposing players to his hearts content.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: socalbaggie on August 31, 2012, 07:46:20 PM
Adam was not getting a kick at Liverpool still won't at Stoke but at least he will get to run round the pitch while the ball sails over his head :D
Yes at either club he won't be able to get a foot on the ball only difference will be at least at Stoke he will be on the pitch watching the ball rather than at Liverpool watching it from the bench.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: KingKoren on August 31, 2012, 11:27:05 PM
N'Zonzi signs. Only 6ft 4.

P*** off Pulis this is just boring now. Really hope they go down with the Vile.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: RowleyBaggie2 on September 01, 2012, 09:56:33 AM
They seem really hacked off with Tony Penis.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: baggiejules on September 01, 2012, 10:32:50 AM
http://oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=Potters&action=display&thread=198233

They aren't too happy about Popov over on the Oatcake!!

 ;D
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: tegga on October 08, 2012, 07:55:49 PM
Was i seeing correct, Stokes away shirts are like Barcelona's home shirt, the're having a laugh ain't they!
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Hunnington Baggie on October 08, 2012, 08:18:42 PM
Nah, it's a proper blue and a proper red, not the claret colour Barca use.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Sessegod on November 09, 2012, 08:13:08 AM
Stoke Fans - bit of respect from the majority, the odd muppet

http://oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=Potters&action=display&thread=202076
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Chipperfan on November 09, 2012, 09:38:59 AM
Thanks for that mate, interesting to see how they see us. A sort of grudging acknowledgement that we have overtaken them by most of the posters.

I'm a bit baffled by the remark that most Stoke fans wouldn't want to see their team play like us. Can't really fathom that.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBAinDEVON on November 09, 2012, 11:07:50 AM
Some very complementary about us of late.We can only dream of what they have spent.Just goes to show what having a good behind the scene team can achieve
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Hunnington Baggie on November 09, 2012, 12:41:28 PM
Thanks for that mate, interesting to see how they see us. A sort of grudging acknowledgement that we have overtaken them by most of the posters.

I'm a bit baffled by the remark that most Stoke fans wouldn't want to see their team play like us. Can't really fathom that.
i believe that was sarcasm, there isnt a sarcasm smiley though.  ::)?
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Sessegod on November 09, 2012, 02:46:16 PM
no problem, came across it when scanning through the other message boards.

I fear for Stoke to be honest, fortunately for them there are 3 teams that are a lot worse than them in the league.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: rubyruby on November 09, 2012, 07:10:07 PM
I work with one or two Stokies and if they are a barometer then there is a definite undercurrent of discontent with the Pulis regime. The style of football, the fact he spends huge amounts on players then doesnt use them.......at all.... a la Palacios and Pennant who he recently off loaded. And where is Micheal Owen? I think the old school way of doing things like Pulis does is gradually becoming redundant in the modern game but will he keep them up...........I will say yes.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBArgo on November 10, 2012, 12:45:42 AM
I work with one or two Stokies and if they are a barometer then there is a definite undercurrent of discontent with the Pulis regime. The style of football, the fact he spends huge amounts on players then doesnt use them.......at all.... a la Palacios and Pennant who he recently off loaded. And where is Micheal Owen? I think the old school way of doing things like Pulis does is gradually becoming redundant in the modern game but will he keep them up...........I will say yes.
I thought it was well known that a portion of Stoke fans disliked Pulis?
It's a really tough one because if honest, he has worked wonders. He got them from a side scrapping it out between the Championship/League 1 to a steady Premiership club. As much we praise Gary Megson, Pulis went one better, arguably two - in keeping his side in the top flight instantly, and for that he deserves credit. Not to mention, the Europa league run.

However, could you imagine years of watching Megson-esque football? I'm no purist but it would eventually get quite dull and off-putting, which coupled with poor results could create discontent.

Undoubtedly he'll keep them up, and I don't even think their football is that bad at times, but there comes a time when his repetitive nature becomes testing.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Dan on November 10, 2012, 01:12:41 AM
I thought it was well known that a portion of Stoke fans disliked Pulis?
It's a really tough one because if honest, he has worked wonders. He got them from a side scrapping it out between the Championship/League 1 to a steady Premiership club. As much we praise Gary Megson, Pulis went one better, arguably two - in keeping his side in the top flight instantly, and for that he deserves credit. Not to mention, the Europa league run.

However, could you imagine years of watching Megson-esque football? I'm no purist but it would eventually get quite dull and off-putting, which coupled with poor results could create discontent.

Undoubtedly he'll keep them up, and I don't even think their football is that bad at times, but there comes a time when his repetitive nature becomes testing.

He has the highest net spend since taking over of any club aside from City or Chelsea. They should be pushing the top 8 every season given the money he's given. He did well to get promoted and then keep them up but there's nothing impressive about the job he's done since. Anyone can fluke an FA cup run.

He's just a blackhole of money, far too much of a dinosaur. You only have to see how every single transfer window he leaves his deals till the last day then rushes through a bunch of players who generally end up being huge wastes of money. Even the ones that do work out, things like Crouch who cost 12m and is no doubt on huge wages - they'll get little to no return on that transfer, how many clubs in the league could afford that kind of deal?

Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Ska-dForLife-WBA on November 10, 2012, 02:45:08 AM
From an outsider's perspective, Sturk are a club caught in a tricky dilemma over their current position and long-term goals.  I'd say their chances of getting relegated under Pulis are slim to none.  However, I'd say their chances of breaking into the top half of the table or winning a trophy under Pulis are also now slim to none.  The run of form in 2011 that almost gave them both didn't sustain itself in the long term, and they had nothing to show for it in the end (although a nice little European adventure probably took the edge off for a little while).  So, do you sack the man who transformed your club's fortunes, in an all or nothing gamble?  Do you keep the prizes you've got, or trade it all in for what's behind the curtain?

Where Albion have got a clear-cut plan that seems to take multiple eventualities and scenarios into account over a number of years, in the boardrooms at the Brit I think things may have been done a bit more on the fly.  It seems that the extent of their planning was to get to the Premier League and then stay there; no ideas about what to aim for five years down the line.  So the fans get a bit restless, and wonder what they're paying their money for.  And if they rattle the sabre enough, a change is going to come.

If or when we see that day, I'll be watching with interest, because footballing history rarely reflects well on clubs who sacrifice guaranteed stability to go chasing a dream.  At least not without a ton of money behind them.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Sessegod on November 10, 2012, 09:57:00 AM
He has the highest net spend since taking over of any club aside from City or Chelsea. They should be pushing the top 8 every season given the money he's given. He did well to get promoted and then keep them up but there's nothing impressive about the job he's done since. Anyone can fluke an FA cup run.

He's just a blackhole of money, far too much of a dinosaur. You only have to see how every single transfer window he leaves his deals till the last day then rushes through a bunch of players who generally end up being huge wastes of money. Even the ones that do work out, things like Crouch who cost 12m and is no doubt on huge wages - they'll get little to no return on that transfer, how many clubs in the league could afford that kind of deal?

another club that spends without having a structure or identity, they think players will win games and not a team.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Standaman on November 10, 2012, 01:39:21 PM
At one point the fans did not much care about the the rather turgid football that Pullis served up because a bit like ourselves after a number of years in the wilderness they were just happy to be in the premier league and the hoofball was a means to an end. However five years on the fans are growing a little restless because not only have they spent quite a bit of money but other teams of similar stature have stayed in the division without resorting to the route one stuff that Stoke have become associated with.

The dilema is changing the manager and one assumes the style of play runs the risk of losing their Premier League status because their current squad is geared up to play the Pulis way, unless the Stoke board is prepapred to fund a major revamp they need to be very careful about how quickly they try to turn Stoke into the Barcelona of the Potteries.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Aixelsyd on November 14, 2012, 04:20:52 AM
So Pulis should keep buying in "route one" style footballers...


to keep making it more and more expensive for the Board to sack him and rebuild under a different Manager.



Sounds like a smart move in Job security  :D

Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: rubyruby on November 14, 2012, 07:20:52 AM
So Pulis should keep buying in "route one" style footballers...
to keep making it more and more expensive for the Board to sack him and rebuild under a different Manager.
Sounds like a smart move in Job security  :D

You say that tongue in cheek Aixel but actually there is likely more than a smidge of truth in what your saying. Pulis has always been a bit of an empire builder. You get the feeling he gets a bit of a buzz out of the power his position carries. As other posters have said though he does bring stability. Me I couldnt pitch up and watch that sort stuff very week, id lose interest.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBAinDEVON on November 27, 2012, 08:44:31 AM
Time to Stoke the fire
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBAinDEVON on November 27, 2012, 01:13:11 PM
This is one game i want us to win.We need to stop them singing that dreadfull Tom Jones tune :)
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: rubyruby on November 27, 2012, 04:15:22 PM
This is one game i want us to win.We need to stop them singing that dreadfull Tom Jones tune :)

I dont mind that one so much WBA its the "We always beat West Brom" 2 minutes from time that I would like shoved back up their proverbial...........
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Jack Russell on November 28, 2012, 11:48:32 AM
Be prepared for the Hoooooffffff
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBAinDEVON on November 29, 2012, 08:46:49 AM
Beating these will more than make up for last night
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: dangerman on November 29, 2012, 09:00:47 AM
Beating these will more than make up for last night

They're playing awful at the minute and still picking up the results.

I think it'll be a difficult game.

Hooooff!  ;D
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Jack Russell on November 29, 2012, 11:00:49 AM
Bring on the Delilahs
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: The Black Pearl on November 29, 2012, 08:15:14 PM
All Crouchy wants for Christmas is his two front teeth! ;D
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBAinDEVON on November 30, 2012, 08:40:59 AM
All Crouchy wants for Christmas is his two front teeth! ;D


and a razor
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBAinDEVON on January 30, 2013, 09:33:06 AM
Is everyone ready for the Stoke show tomorrow.How many times have they spent millions on virtually the last day of every transfer window and still finish below us :D
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Jack Russell on January 31, 2013, 07:04:11 PM
Dont they look intelligent behind the Sky fella
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBAinDEVON on January 31, 2013, 11:43:38 PM
What a bunch of numptys nearly midnight freezing cold and waiting for more deals
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: rubyruby on February 01, 2013, 09:30:59 PM
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: B_H_Baggie on February 01, 2013, 10:08:22 PM
Butland said it himself any deal needed to be right for him and he seems to value first team football more than anything so the loan back to Blues makes total sense to both him and the two clubs. He gets chance to develop a little further playing for Blue while knowing his long term future is secured at Stoke, it seems to be a good deal for everyone involved.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Baggies on February 01, 2013, 10:57:55 PM
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: rubyruby on February 01, 2013, 11:43:54 PM
That's the best bit ruby, Chelsea did but he turned them down. He wants to play at a club where he will not just be a back up. Credit to him, an intelligent footballer with his head screwed on.

Thanks baggies i didnt catch that. Good for him. Seems unusual in this day and age when players seem quite content to sit in the reserves and just pick up their fat wage. Think Lukaku should also get a bit of credit for coming to us to improve himself.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Quakes Fan on February 02, 2013, 08:45:20 PM
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Hunnington Baggie on February 03, 2013, 10:15:54 PM
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBASPE77 on February 04, 2013, 08:28:35 AM
Form of late has been poor from Stoke. Could they turn into the new Charlton.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBAinDEVON on February 12, 2013, 03:51:34 PM
Are we the new Stoke? we are being accused on the Oatcake of a typical Stoke team away from home.Mr Pulis would have been creaming himself watching it :D
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: BrummieBaggie68 on February 12, 2013, 04:08:22 PM
Are we the new Stoke? we are being accused on the Oatcake of a typical Stoke team away from home.Mr Pulis would have been creaming himself watching it :D

Has crossed my mind, I must say. Big difference though is that we don't do it every game. And we'll play less hoofball generally now the 'proper' midfield is finally back.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Hunnington Baggie on February 12, 2013, 04:10:28 PM
Are we the new Stoke? we are being accused on the Oatcake of a typical Stoke team away from home.Mr Pulis would have been creaming himself watching it :D
Difference was we were forced to play that way to get the draw or win, Stoke Choose to play like that week in week out, home and away no matter who the opposition are.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: GrGr on February 12, 2013, 04:19:04 PM
Are we the new Stoke? we are being accused on the Oatcake of a typical Stoke team away from home.Mr Pulis would have been creaming himself watching it :D

We can sell PO to them and then they can be the new WBA  ;D
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Quakes Fan on February 12, 2013, 09:13:57 PM
This is the first time they've ever seen another team play conservatively? It happens every day of the week, somewhere in the world.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Greenock Baggie on February 13, 2013, 07:37:07 PM
What with the Woves watch thread called Dingle watch and the Villa watch thread called Seals watch..................why isnt this called POT watch
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: DevonBaggie on February 23, 2013, 06:37:29 PM
http://oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=Potters&action=display&thread=208915

Makes me laugh really that Pulis was the one which got them promotion to the Premier League and also annoyingly we never win against a Pulis team and they are all shouting for him to be out by the end of the season! IMO when Pulis goes thats when they'll start to struggle, then they'll be begging for him back after that!

5 consecutive Midtable finishes and a whole year in Europe to boot, Ungrateful t****
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: wbasoprano on February 23, 2013, 06:43:59 PM
What with the Woves watch thread called Dingle watch and the Villa watch thread called Seals watch..................why isnt this called POT watch

Surely clay watch?
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Quakes Fan on February 23, 2013, 06:44:58 PM
I guess they think they should be trampling Fulham at Craven Cottage.   ::)
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: DevonBaggie on February 23, 2013, 06:49:26 PM
I guess they think they should be trampling Fulham at Craven Cottage.   ::)

Its not that, its just they are 10th in the league FFS playing Dinosaur tactics, you'd think they would be used to it by now. ;D
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Quakes Fan on February 23, 2013, 06:54:47 PM
Its not that, its just they are 10th in the league FFS playing Dinosaur tactics, you'd think they would be used to it by now. ;D

Well they did start a centre-half at CAM today. I'd call that extreme even by Pulis standards.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: wbako on February 23, 2013, 07:41:02 PM
I'm going to break my self-imposed exile from this thread just to say they should be inflicted with Pulis for eternity.

Sh*t fans, even sh*tter team.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: AlbionBest on February 23, 2013, 10:23:03 PM
I'm going to break my self-imposed exile from this thread just to say they should be inflicted with Pulis for eternity.

Sh*t fans, even sh*tter team.

Too right.......they really do deserve each other !

I see that they got away with two acts of thuggery from NZonzi and Huth today again -hopefully retro bans that will include our game at the Brit ?
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: crazedwbafan18 on February 24, 2013, 08:22:32 PM
i really hope so AlbionBest, little gives me more satisfaction than winning at the britannia after all the misery they inflict upon us at the hawthorns.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: BigFrank20 on February 24, 2013, 10:55:13 PM
My ticket for this one arrived in the post on Friday, looking forward to yet another win at the shitehole that is stoke!
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: crazedwbafan18 on February 24, 2013, 11:20:06 PM
My ticket for this one arrived in the post on Friday, looking forward to yet another win at the shitehole that is stoke!
dunno don't wanna jynx it, just hope we get our comeuppance after all the S***e we've taken from them. lets make sure last jan wasnt a 'one-off'
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Quakes Fan on February 25, 2013, 12:21:58 AM
I went over to the Oatcake looking for opinions about Brek Shea, but as DevonBaggie observed, it's thread after thread of Pulis hate.

Here's someone reasonable who appears to know something, and it's not good news for Stoke's Yanks:
Quote
Pulis has hung him [Geoff Cameron] out to dry in just the same way he did with Marc Wilson.

He's obviously brought Cameron in as a defensive midfielder and, like Wilson, just doesn't fancy him there (on the limited showing he had there) so in Pulis' mind, let's stick him out of position and see if he sinks or swims.

Marc Wilson made a decent fist of being put on the wrong side of a back four in a position he's never played in his life before and Cameron has had mixed performances.

By the end of the season I predict Cameron will be out of the side for good which will be a crying shame on so many levels.  He is good enough if he is given a run in his natural position.

By the sounds of it Beswicks have spent an age building up contacts in the USA and as it is, Klinsmann doesn't want his stars at Stoke City.  Pulis' antics at shifting them around all over the shop will do nothing to persuade him to change his mind.

We aren't here to satisfy Klinsmann but the US is an untapped market and if we can get a foothold there it will be a chance to put forward Stoke City as THE club to put the young US lads into with a view to improving them and moving them on at the right time, as a means to helping out the US National side by coaching their young lads in one of the most competitive leagues in he world.

Pulis and his antics will put paid to that though, mark my words.  After he's packed Edu off to Turkey, convinced Cameron he should take up another sport and turned Shea into a very poor left wing back we'll be seen as the second coming of the anti-christ in the US as well as the UK.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: rubyruby on February 25, 2013, 09:41:58 PM
Considering all the money Pulis has spent on the team the return has been average to say the least. I find it hard to understand why the Coates cant see that. Yes he has kept them in the division but how far have they really progressed football wise? No wonder the fans are pi##d off. They are almost stuck with him by default. Who could come in and pick up where he has left off.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: popmonkey on February 27, 2013, 09:21:00 AM
The FA have charged Huth with violent conduct during the Fulham game, this should rule him out of our game.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: rubyruby on February 27, 2013, 09:25:22 AM
The two challenges by Nzonzi and Huth were disgraceful. Stoke fans must be the largest flock of sheep in the midlands, turning up every week to watch Sgt Mjr Pulis and his scruffy football and tactics without question. Me...id want my money back and him out............ASAP
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBAinDEVON on February 27, 2013, 09:32:35 AM
To be fair most of them are fed up with the football they witness
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: rubyruby on February 27, 2013, 09:38:52 AM
To be fair most of them are fed up with the football they witness

If they were really that fed up with it Devon they would do something about it?.......Fans always do
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBAinDEVON on February 27, 2013, 09:42:57 AM
If they were really that fed up with it Devon they would do something about it?.......Fans always do



They are pretty much established now and i quite often hear he cant take us any further talk.
Some of them saying obviously be carefull what they wish for etc
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: rubyruby on February 27, 2013, 09:50:23 AM


They are pretty much established now and i quite often hear he cant take us any further talk.
Some of them saying obviously be carefull what they wish for etc

I take your point Devon. Colleague of mine who supports them refuses to go and watch that rubbish anymore. Its a sad indictment that entertainment takes second stage to finance. After all isnt that why we all go to watch football. Compare with the Baggies at the weekend. Either side of the first 15 last 15 I thought some of the one/two touch passing was just wonderful. I thought I was watchin the Arsenal for a second.............. ;D
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBASPE77 on March 03, 2013, 04:22:57 PM
There was a small banner with Pulis out at Yesterdays game. The attendance was 22,690. Some fans have lost intrest no pace in the side, not many tactics either.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBAinDEVON on March 03, 2013, 07:17:34 PM
i would love to beat these in a few weeks
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBASPE77 on March 04, 2013, 08:17:15 AM
i would love to beat these in a few weeks

I would love to beat them aswell. Huth will bemissing for this game which is a big plus for us.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBAinDEVON on March 04, 2013, 10:57:14 AM
Its time for a manager change here but i suppose be careful what you wish for.The money they spend over us is incredible and we still finish above them most seasons
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBASPE77 on March 04, 2013, 02:36:13 PM
Its time for a change here but i suppose be careful what you wish for.The money they spend over us is incredible and we still finish above them most seasons

They should never have bought Owen. I don't why they got rid of Pennant, as he offers them a lot of width. Kightly hasn't been that good for them this season
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Jack Russell on March 04, 2013, 03:28:42 PM
I suspect we will get our own back again in a few weeks
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: wba1993dave on March 04, 2013, 04:09:00 PM
To be fair Pulis has done a good job there, they were a mid-table team in the CHampionship before he came in. He got them promoted and also got them into Europe and a Fa Cup Final. We all hate the way Stoke play but it has worked and has kepted them up for a good 5 seasons. But now it seems that the Stoke fans are getting bored to death with Pulis. So I suppose they want someone who would take them up a level or to get them playing fast flowing football. I don't like Pulis but I thinks its unfair for the "Pulis out banners". Without him they would be stuck in the Championship. I think Pulis will resign in the summer and I can see Benitez getting the job.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: rubyruby on March 04, 2013, 05:16:11 PM
To be fair Pulis has done a good job there, they were a mid-table team in the CHampionship before he came in. He got them promoted and also got them into Europe and a Fa Cup Final. We all hate the way Stoke play but it has worked and has kepted them up for a good 5 seasons. But now it seems that the Stoke fans are getting bored to death with Pulis. So I suppose they want someone who would take them up a level or to get them playing fast flowing football. I don't like Pulis but I thinks its unfair for the "Pulis out banners". Without him they would be stuck in the Championship. I think Pulis will resign in the summer and I can see Benitez getting the job.

Would that take them forward tactically or style of play wise though. Its debatable?
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Baggie-Mania on March 05, 2013, 03:40:48 PM
I must admit i generally pop around other teams messageboards and one i really do enjoy are the Oatcake the Stoke fans are quite the aggressive bunch but also very entertaining....take this for an example  :D
http://oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=Potters&action=display&thread=209401
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBAinDEVON on March 05, 2013, 03:51:37 PM
I must admit i generally pop around other teams messageboards and one i really do enjoy are the Oatcake the Stoke fans are quite the aggressive bunch but also very entertaining....take this for an example  :D
http://oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=Potters&action=display&thread=209401


Hello my Danish friend hope your well.You are right about the Oatcake its fantastic reading.They get away with murder on there :D
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Baggie-Mania on March 05, 2013, 05:39:07 PM
Its like a forbidden travel into the dark recesses of the mind ! And hi to you mate :)
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: fortressbritannia on March 07, 2013, 11:47:14 AM
There was a small banner with Pulis out at Yesterdays game. The attendance was 22,690. Some fans have lost intrest no pace in the side, not many tactics either.

The attendance was 26,690 its a widely reported mistake
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: the rainbow turn east on March 07, 2013, 11:52:40 AM
This is what I think of Stoke City:
Horrible Fans,
Horrible Ground,
Horrible Manager,
and Horrible Football.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBAinDEVON on March 07, 2013, 11:58:36 AM
This is what I think of Stoke City:
Horrible Fans,
Horrible Ground,
Horrible Manager,
and Horrible Football.


totally disagree
Good fans very passionate
Good club founder memeber
similar in size to us
Its time to change Pulis if they are to move to another level, mind you be careful what you wish for.Charlton remember
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: rubyruby on March 07, 2013, 08:20:29 PM
This is what I think of Stoke City:
Horrible Fans,
Horrible Ground,
Horrible Manager,
and Horrible Football.

Im inclined to agree with you on this one rainbow although i think there are a lot of good loyal Stoke fans who do know their football. Problem is theyve allowed him to take them so far down a certain road its not that easy to find a way back despite all the posturing about how were playing "more football" than we used to.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Jack Russell on March 10, 2013, 11:52:06 AM
Oatcake should be interesting read this week
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBAinDEVON on March 10, 2013, 04:57:37 PM
Me heads spinning, so many Pulis out threads on the Oatcake,maybe we could help get him the sack
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on March 10, 2013, 07:02:13 PM
Does anybody have an account on Oatcake?

If so, could you please PM me.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: BigFrank20 on March 10, 2013, 07:14:17 PM
the oatcake thread about their game against us is worth a read
 http://oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=Potters&action=display&thread=209972
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: leeiswba on March 10, 2013, 07:25:49 PM
Would be funny how Pulis pretty much got one over us all his Stoke reign yet we could beat them and get him the sack.... Having the last laugh since 1878 :P
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: crazedwbafan18 on March 10, 2013, 08:53:16 PM
the oatcake thread about their game against us is worth a read
 http://oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=Potters&action=display&thread=209972
a few of the cocky 'we always beat west brom' folk on there. one things for sure there will be nailbiting in the home end come saturday and its up to us to heap even more pressure against pulis. a manager in the mire, suffering the same result as mick mcarthy would be nice, with the same scoreline ;)
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBAinDEVON on March 11, 2013, 07:46:05 AM
Does anybody have an account on Oatcake?

If so, could you please PM me.


I have about 50 posts on there Liam
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Baggies on March 11, 2013, 10:42:49 AM
I am really surprised they all want him out and that they think they might g down. This year, 34 or 35 points might be enough and I expect Stoke to reach 39-40. Still think they will beat us next week.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: smosher34 on March 11, 2013, 07:12:26 PM
last 2 games up there we have drawn 1 and won 1 so fancy us to beat them again 3-1 this time  ;D
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: gerry m on March 11, 2013, 07:41:07 PM
the oatcake thread about their game against us is worth a read
 http://oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=Potters&action=display&thread=209972


they certainly dont like Pulis ;D
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: hardtobeat on March 11, 2013, 07:51:49 PM
Whats he done or said thats causing them so much angst? seems the Pulis love in is well and truly over ;D ;D
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: The Black Pearl on March 11, 2013, 08:31:13 PM
Whats he done or said thats causing them so much angst? seems the Pulis love in is well and truly over ;D ;D

I think they have only won one in five, be great to beat them there. :-\
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: swabey on March 11, 2013, 08:46:14 PM
The problem is that most of us have tolerated him and his brand of football and what it has achieved.

He promised us all a 3 year plan which meant doing anything possible to get established in this league. He has now spent the best part of 100m and if anything the football is now uglier than it was for the first couple of years.

At best it was tolerated when we won but fans are now getting sick of hoofing it into the corners looking for set pieces. Our away record is pathetic as Pulis sets out for a 0-0 every game which is worse than watching paint dry.

I think you'll win quite easily as the team have no confidence, no skill and no idea what the manager is trying to get them to do.

All we are asking for is a better style of football. Personally I don't card if we are 4th or 14th. I just want to see football being played.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: GrGr on March 11, 2013, 09:06:46 PM
The problem is that most of us have tolerated him and his brand of football and what it has achieved.

He promised us all a 3 year plan which meant doing anything possible to get established in this league. He has now spent the best part of 100m and if anything the football is now uglier than it was for the first couple of years.

At best it was tolerated when we won but fans are now getting sick of hoofing it into the corners looking for set pieces. Our away record is pathetic as Pulis sets out for a 0-0 every game which is worse than watching paint dry.

I think you'll win quite easily as the team have no confidence, no skill and no idea what the manager is trying to get them to do.

All we are asking for is a better style of football. Personally I don't card if we are 4th or 14th. I just want to see football being played.

Wow. So Stoke fans are finally getting fed up with Pulis-ball? I thought the plan was to transition over time to football after the 'necessary evil' of Pulis-ball? Of course it was always clear Pulis was not the man to do so, his idea of football always was, and will remain, league one on steroids.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: AlbionBest on March 11, 2013, 09:11:42 PM
What's happened to Stoke's much hyped support ?  Not many fancied the Toon by the looks of it !

https://twitter.com/Away_Fans/status/310768519329484800/photo/1

Oatcake in MolyMix style meltdown as well...................

 :D
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: wbako on March 11, 2013, 09:59:01 PM
The problem is that most of us have tolerated him and his brand of football and what it has achieved.

He promised us all a 3 year plan which meant doing anything possible to get established in this league. He has now spent the best part of 100m and if anything the football is now uglier than it was for the first couple of years.

At best it was tolerated when we won but fans are now getting sick of hoofing it into the corners looking for set pieces. Our away record is pathetic as Pulis sets out for a 0-0 every game which is worse than watching paint dry.

I think you'll win quite easily as the team have no confidence, no skill and no idea what the manager is trying to get them to do.

All we are asking for is a better style of football. Personally I don't card if we are 4th or 14th. I just want to see football being played.

I remember being mocked by Stoke fans in this very thread for saying I'd rather get relegated than have to sit through Pulis' anti-football for 90 minutes every match and now lo and behold....

A gameplan which relies on set-pieces, time-wasting, fouling and generally everything ugly about the beautiful game is not one that particularly appeals to me.

As i've said earlier, the clayheads should be inflicted with Pulis for eternity, failing this, at least the next decade.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: baggie-boy-ethan on March 11, 2013, 11:45:27 PM
When they spend the sort of money that they have on players like N'Zonzi and Crouch,with their big wages too, I dont see how even Martinez or Rodgers could change Stoke into a footballing team  withought further serious investment. You just dont see Wilson and Wilkinson putting their foot on the ball or going on a run down the wings regardless of whos in charge

Trouble is that the investment that the board have made has landed them in a catch 22 situation. Do they gamble and spend another fortune on carpet football players and a new manager, or play it safe with Pulis and just survive every year. I think the whole style is getting stale, I know Stoke fans who dread even going on a Saturday at the minute but it takes a brave rich chairman to change it all any time soon
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Jack Russell on March 13, 2013, 03:54:58 PM
4 points from the last 2 games there for us.They certainly know how to waste money
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: dangerman on March 13, 2013, 04:12:03 PM
4 points from the last 2 games there.They certainly know how to waste money

They're pretty much guarenteed 3 points saturday!  :o
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: fortressbritannia on March 13, 2013, 05:21:17 PM
TP has wasted a hell of a lot if money since the cup final on supposedly better players that can't do what we want them to do. Pulisball works but he's not picking the right team for it.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Dexy on March 13, 2013, 09:54:32 PM
TP has wasted a hell of a lot if money since the cup final on supposedly better players that can't do what we want them to do. Pulisball works but he's not picking the right team for it.
Out of interest do you think getting in the Europa League changed Pulis's view on the sort of players he wanted?
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: fortressbritannia on March 14, 2013, 05:50:08 PM
Out of interest do you think getting in the Europa League changed Pulis's view on the sort of players he wanted?

In short no.

TP like pretty much most managers has a system (4-4-1-1) and they need to suit that system players like Crouch and Adam don't. If you want to play for Stoke you need a couple of key attributes good attitude, work hard, good defensively that will never change he'll look for better players but if you don't have those attributes you won't get far with us.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBAinDEVON on March 15, 2013, 05:20:08 PM
Its not going to be pretty
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: wbako on March 17, 2013, 05:56:39 PM
Just been browsing the Oatcake and saw this post in a thread about our HOOOOOOOOOF shout...

Quote
I DID get upset by it, only because the TRUTH hurts.

Anyone who thinks that the West Brom fans aren't right are simply deluding themselves. Simple truth is that our one and only tactic under this manager is to HOOF it, albeit sometimes in a constructive way, towards Peter Crouch or AN Other.

In actual fact our midfield works in reverse to most others. WE play through our midfield so that we can get the ball BACK to Shawcross or Huth when he's playing or Wilson, so any of them can lauch it as near to Crouch's head as possible.
I omit Andy Wilkinson from this because he doesn't even have the talent to do this properly. Nice lad who wears his heart on his sleeve though!!

Like I say, the TRUTH hurts.

I didn't realise a clayhead could actually be rational - fairplay to "y_oh_y_delilah".
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBASPE77 on April 07, 2013, 12:00:58 PM
They are in big trouble now, Man Utd at home next week. Lack of goals in the side too.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBAinDEVON on April 07, 2013, 12:02:19 PM
I am quite happy for them to go down instead of the Vile
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBASPE77 on April 07, 2013, 12:05:05 PM
In an ideal world I would love both Stoke and Villa to go down but I cant see it happening. Stoke are losing fortress Britannia, as they have picked up just one point from the last three home games.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: digger on April 29, 2013, 07:41:08 PM
stoke look safe, its got to be villa to go
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBASPE77 on April 29, 2013, 09:03:25 PM
Still think Pulis has taken them as far as he can though.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: zippyandbungle on April 30, 2013, 01:59:54 PM
Still think Pulis has taken them as far as he can though.
Yep , and on 5 live he sounded like the manager that was leaving but didnt want to say he was?
How much is it going to cost mr coates to change that squad of donkeys ?
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBASPE77 on April 30, 2013, 02:46:03 PM
They have spent a heck of a lot on players already think how much players like Crouch is on.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on May 21, 2013, 02:06:17 PM
Some journalists tweeting that Tony Pulis is set to leave after a meeting with chairman Peter Coates today.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: phbaggies on May 21, 2013, 03:10:28 PM
Been confirmed apparantly, big summer for Stoke now need a new squad if they are going to keep it on the ground, doubt it though as thats not the Stoke way!!

Latest Odds:

Sir Clive Woodward 3/1
Martin Johnson 9/1
Lawrence Dallaglio 12/1
Warren Gatland 25/1
Jonny Wilkinson 50/1

(Shamelessly nicked off BBC Sporf) :)
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Mat15(MH) on May 21, 2013, 03:17:40 PM
Some of their fans on Twitter want Rafa Benitez... ;D
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: howard62baby on May 21, 2013, 03:18:16 PM
Pulis leaving stoke, what's the bet old tax dodger turns up there ?
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Chipperfan on May 21, 2013, 03:20:14 PM
Pulis leaving stoke, what's the bet old tax dodger turns up there ?

Long drive every day from Sandbanks. Speaking of Pulis though, Ladbrokes are offering 1,000/1 on him succeeding Jose at Real Madrid.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: BigFrank20 on May 21, 2013, 03:20:32 PM
OOOOOOOOOO the oatcake should be fun for a few days!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: dangerman on May 21, 2013, 03:23:28 PM
Off to the bookies to have a tenna on them for relegation next season. :D

Whoever comes in will have a massive task on their hands to sort this lot out.

Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: zippyandbungle on May 21, 2013, 03:28:55 PM
Well after kenwyne s hissy fit how about Terry (pig) Butcher ;D
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Jack Russell on May 21, 2013, 03:31:09 PM
OOOOOOOOOO the oatcake should be fun for a few days!!!!!!!!


meltdown over there
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: zippyandbungle on May 21, 2013, 03:32:23 PM
There's only one Dean Saunders :D
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Jack Russell on May 21, 2013, 03:38:23 PM
RDM
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: zippyandbungle on May 21, 2013, 03:47:22 PM
If I was to have a serious guess  .... Allardyce...he doesn't appear to like the porn barons (mutual) and the style of football and Staffordshire would suit?
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Jack Russell on May 21, 2013, 04:30:42 PM
bad news for us.They got money and with a forward thinking manager they will be a threat with the Vile next season
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBASPE77 on May 21, 2013, 04:37:35 PM
bad news for us.They got money and with a forward thinking manager they will be a threat with the Vile next season

I wont be too worried look how much they have spent on Crouch, he hasn't had that good of a season. How much do we spend on players and look how well they do.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on May 21, 2013, 04:38:00 PM
Even if they do decide to play a more attractive brand of football, they still have some very good footballers to pull that off. Granted it will need one or two additions to get rid of Pulis' grafters but I don't think it's as big as job as some may predict. The problem will be if you're going to change the ethos is proving to be more successful than Pulis who over the time at Stoke, did a very good job playing efficient football which wasn't always attractive on the eye.

Might be funny to watch the likes of Shotton, Huth, Shawcross and Wilkinson playing from the back  ;D
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: phbaggies on May 21, 2013, 04:38:23 PM
bad news for us.They got money and with a forward thinking manager they will be a threat with the Vile next season
For every Mourinho there is a Dean Saunders too, remember that! Threat from Villa, why? Take Benteke out of that squad and its championship material, one person alone kept them up
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBASPE77 on May 21, 2013, 04:41:27 PM
Without Bentekes goals they would have gone down. Villa are another club who have spend big money, Sidwell, Davies etc and they didn't really improve them. Sunderland are another club who have the done the same and haven't progressed.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Standaman on May 21, 2013, 06:38:20 PM
This could be a very tough season for Stoke whoever they bring in will be expected to at least to try to get them playing football. Although the Pulis way is pretty deeply ingrained and getting the likes of Huth and Shawcross playing football will be like teaching elephants to dance.

I suppose one solution would be to go for Pulis light step forward agent McCarthy and his trusty side kick Terry "clipboard" Connor you've done it once you can do it again.    ;D
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBAinDEVON on May 21, 2013, 07:07:23 PM
Any players of theirs worth going for? what about hooof
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: digger on May 21, 2013, 10:23:30 PM
stoke with the money and a new manager more chance of us going down
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: wbako on May 21, 2013, 10:24:45 PM
Hmm leaving just in time for the Lion's tour...coincidence? I think not!
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: B_H_Baggie on May 21, 2013, 10:40:02 PM
Can't argue with the job he's done to actually keep them in the Premier League despite the horrific looking brand of football played, however he's spent a hell of a lot of money on big name players and not always wisely. Their fans would have expected their style of play to change for the better after so many years in the league and so much money spent on the squad but it just hasn't happened.

Will be interesting to see who they have as a new boss and what changes they are going to make as their current squad isn't really good enough to suddenly start playing a slick passing game.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBASPE77 on May 21, 2013, 10:56:28 PM
10 million on Crouch and massive wages
8 million on Palacios
8 millon on Jones

For a club of Stokes size that's a lot of money and you could say that none of those three have been regularly consistent.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: tuamigos on May 22, 2013, 06:18:59 AM
I hear there looking at appointing Sir Clive Woodward and Martin Johnson as their management team  ::)
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: wbastrollers on May 22, 2013, 08:20:27 AM
It is interesting to note that Pulis was the 3rd highest NET spender in the premier league (Villa are 4th).
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBAinDEVON on May 22, 2013, 08:34:40 AM
If only we had there spending power.They will be a threat with the right man in charge
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Floydy on May 22, 2013, 08:38:52 AM
I'm not so sure; they have a lot of players that play a certain way. If a manager comes in and tries to play football it go horribly and hilariously wrong
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBArgo on May 22, 2013, 12:04:04 PM
I may be wrong, but over the past 3 seasons or so he's spent the highest out of the top 3 or something (Man Utd, Man City, Chelsea) so his sacking is justified in my view.

It reminds me a bit of when O'Neill left Villa. At the time he was highly regarded but they'd spent huge money in comparison, which has happened up at Stoke.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: RowleyBaggie2 on May 22, 2013, 02:44:55 PM
Mrs Pulis is distraught......

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/253286_654442347905039_1306413571_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: FallOutBoy on May 22, 2013, 10:22:11 PM
Saw a report on Sky earlier, and the Stoke fans were writing off names like Phil Neville and Mark Hughes, they all wanted Benitez. Think you're in for a rude awakening guys.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Jack Russell on May 23, 2013, 08:40:27 AM
Becarefull what you wish for as they say
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: liam-zuiverloon on May 23, 2013, 06:05:17 PM
Every manager will know they've got their work cut out if they're going to attempt to teach those pigs how to play football. Will be an interesting transition if thats they way they are actually intending to go. They don't score many, when they do it's regularly from set pieces and such. The mentality is so defence and physical. Excited to see them struggle.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Chipperfan on May 23, 2013, 06:23:51 PM
Strong stuff! I'd be happy for them to dip out of the Prem, after a long humiliating season of struggle, but I doubt they will. Unless though, they have succession planned for this transition they could find themselves in a hole.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Legend on May 23, 2013, 06:45:37 PM
The Premier League needs Stoke City.


to be relegated.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Mat15(MH) on May 23, 2013, 10:56:36 PM
Arguably their best player, N'Zonzi, hands in written transfer request.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Legend on May 23, 2013, 11:00:00 PM
Arguably their best player, N'Zonzi, hands in written transfer request.

Good player, I'd have him at Albion.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBASPE77 on May 24, 2013, 10:12:46 AM
Mark Hughes seems the favourite to be the new Stoke manager. Did a good job at Blackburn but falied massivley at QPR. 
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBAinDEVON on May 24, 2013, 10:15:11 AM
Mark Hughes seems the favourite to be the new Stoke manager. Did a good job at Blackburn but falied massivley at QPR.


I dont think that lot want him though.I dont like Mark Hughes so makes Stoke even more vile for me
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: RowleyBaggie2 on May 29, 2013, 08:54:04 AM
Nice big "HUGHES OUT" banner on the side of a waggon parked on the M6 bridge at junction 16 yesterday.

Northbound too, just in case Hughes drives up.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: jonny on May 29, 2013, 09:06:45 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/22710396

Brilliant!!
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: socalbaggie on May 29, 2013, 09:37:20 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/22710396

Brilliant!!
Looks like he wasted 50 on making that sign if Sparky is going to be appointed any day!!
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WincantonBaggie on May 29, 2013, 09:41:16 PM
Hopefully I will see Yeovil Town vs Stoke City in the 2014-2015 Championship season!
Crystal Palace and Hull City in theory should struggle, although difficult to predict, hopeful we will be fine next season
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBAinDEVON on May 30, 2013, 08:53:19 AM
Welcome Sparky :D
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: MHB WBA on May 30, 2013, 09:13:13 AM
Welcome Sparky :D
Stoke, villa and cardiff ihope
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: AlbionLegend on May 30, 2013, 01:36:38 PM
I think he will do alright for them, he's not exactly going to get them playing good football but it should be a little less boring and hoof-like to that of Pulis...
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WSBaggie on July 19, 2013, 12:13:50 PM
Stoke are offering free away travel to every game this season for fans.

http://www.stokecityfc.com/news/article/club-announce-free-away-travel-930449.aspx

Some gesture, it makes you wonder how much it will cost them and whether it really is just a drop in the ocean compared to TV revenue, ticket sales etc.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: phbaggies on July 19, 2013, 12:59:49 PM
Stoke are offering free away travel to every game this season for fans.

http://www.stokecityfc.com/news/article/club-announce-free-away-travel-930449.aspx

Some gesture, it makes you wonder how much it will cost them and whether it really is just a drop in the ocean compared to TV revenue, ticket sales etc.
Thats a great gesture to be fair, should guarantee great away support and could be the difference between staying up and relegated.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: gerry m on July 19, 2013, 07:23:44 PM
Stoke are offering free away travel to every game this season for fans.

http://www.stokecityfc.com/news/article/club-announce-free-away-travel-930449.aspx

Some gesture, it makes you wonder how much it will cost them and whether it really is just a drop in the ocean compared to TV revenue, ticket sales etc.

by the sound of it the increased money from TV will pay for it.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Aixelsyd on July 19, 2013, 11:45:20 PM
but isn't it compulsory?


The coaches pull up in the center of town and press people into Red & White shirts, force them into herds and onto the buses  :'(

and then not release them again for hours after busing them around the country.


a cruel type of punishment... the UN should ban it  :(
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBASPE77 on July 22, 2013, 05:33:34 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/23404965

Cameron Jerome criticises Tony Pulis regime. Having heard a lot of Stoke fans on phone ins last season there did seem to be a recurring theme that he did have his favorites the likes of Walters and Glenn Whelan been the main too.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBAinDEVON on August 06, 2013, 11:09:33 AM
Potentially losing out on transfer targets to bloody West Brom now... How our transfer stock has fallen in terms of available funds...

Read more: http://oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/212549/official-summer-transfer-thread?page=177#ixzz2bBMNwCXU


Laugh out loud
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Aixelsyd on August 06, 2013, 11:22:48 AM
Potentially losing out on transfer targets to bloody West Brom now... How our transfer stock has fallen in terms of available funds...

Read more: http://oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/212549/official-summer-transfer-thread?page=177#ixzz2bBMNwCXU


Laugh out loud

very big laugh out loud  ;D

Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: AlbionBest on April 13, 2014, 12:22:33 PM
SO, with yesterday's result, the dreaded last day doomsday scenario is still on the cards against this lot !!


 :(
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Jack Russell on April 13, 2014, 12:51:31 PM
Hate this lot.The perfect fit for Odemwonga.God help him if he plays.I aint met anyone yet who wouldn't like to throttle him
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: swabey on April 13, 2014, 03:33:24 PM
Potentially losing out on transfer targets to bloody West Brom now... How our transfer stock has fallen in terms of available funds...

Read more: http://oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/212549/official-summer-transfer-thread?page=177#ixzz2bBMNwCXU


Laugh out loud

Have you stopped laughing out loud yet?  ;D
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: lewisant on April 13, 2014, 03:37:35 PM
Have you stopped laughing out loud yet?  ;D

Believe me all us West Brom fans are laughing out loud this season, at our own club unfortunately
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: swabey on April 13, 2014, 03:42:00 PM
True. I heard today on goals on Sunday you have thrown away 15 points so far from winning positions. Not good. Last thing you want is to be playing your bogey team last game needing something to keep you up. Don't think it will come to that but it will be close.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBASPE77 on April 13, 2014, 03:46:10 PM
Stoke have been excellent over the last couple of months. I thought Mark Hughes would struggle but he has really got you playing well. I just hope and pray that it doesn't come down to the final day of the season.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: AlbionBest on April 19, 2014, 09:15:00 AM
Hate this lot.The perfect fit for Odemwonga.God help him if he plays.I aint met anyone yet who wouldn't like to throttle him

Would get very messy on and off the pitch that final day if our worse nightmares panned out !!
Make last season's fractious Yanited end of season game seem like a Teddy Bear's picnic !
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Tesco21 on May 03, 2014, 06:05:06 PM
So with their demolition of Fulham today (Cheers btw!) Stoke have confirmed their position as top Midlands club, for what is the first time. Crazy to compare the two clubs last season and this season. What a difference a Loan makes ay?
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: addy on May 03, 2014, 06:08:29 PM
So with their demolition of Fulham today (Cheers btw!) Stoke have confirmed their position as top Midlands club, for what is the first time. Crazy to compare the two clubs last season and this season. What a difference a Loan makes ay?

Agree that Assaidi loan has done wonders :D.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Tesco21 on May 03, 2014, 09:10:35 PM
He has scored some important goals for us yes. A crying shame he wasnt fit for the whole season. But anyway, I really popped on to say congrats on surviving, and looking forward to next week! Should be a cracking game of football! (first time in a while on our part I admit :p)
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBArgo on May 03, 2014, 09:35:08 PM
He has scored some important goals for us yes. A crying shame he wasnt fit for the whole season. But anyway, I really popped on to say congrats on surviving, and looking forward to next week! Should be a cracking game of football! (first time in a while on our part I admit :p)
Stoke looked quality today. I've seen them a few times this year and they haven't been that good but it's a total turn around from the Pulis days.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: VVVAlbion on May 04, 2014, 10:26:51 AM
So with their demolition of Fulham today (Cheers btw!) Stoke have confirmed their position as top Midlands club, for what is the first time. Crazy to compare the two clubs last season and this season. What a difference a Loan makes ay?
Congratulations on being top club in Staffordshire. Putting Wolves and Port Vale in their place.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Dexy on May 04, 2014, 10:30:35 AM
Congratulations on being top club in Staffordshire. Putting Wolves and Port Vale in their place.
He won't be replying mate , banished to the internet pit where opposing fans go if they can't behave on here. :)
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Jack Russell on May 05, 2014, 01:35:47 PM
I read they will be singing pride of the Midlands next week
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: OldburyWBA on May 05, 2014, 01:48:55 PM
I read they will be singing pride of the Midlands next week

Has anyone pointed out to them they ain't in the Midlands ?

Pride of Staffordshire maybe but then then with only Port Vale, Crewe and the dingles to join them it ain't hard is it.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Legend on May 05, 2014, 02:39:02 PM
We should have been in for Erik Pieters last summer instead of going for Popov on loan again even though it was obvious he wasn't good enough.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: fortressbritannia on May 05, 2014, 03:43:13 PM
We should have been in for Erik Pieters last summer instead of going for Popov on loan again even though it was obvious he wasn't good enough.

Ah Popov that's a bullet we well and truly dodged. Pretty glad we got Pieters instead.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WSBaggie on May 05, 2014, 04:41:32 PM
Ah Popov that's a bullet we well and truly dodged. Pretty glad we got Pieters instead.

I bet you are glad
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Jack Russell on May 06, 2014, 09:02:03 AM
Are you going to applaud Odemwonga for the 30 goals he scored for us, he reckons he still has some support for this.I cant see it.He said he will get a mixed reception laugh out loud
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Chipperfan on May 06, 2014, 10:25:22 AM
Are you going to applaud Odemwonga for the 30 goals he scored for us, he reckons he still has some support for this.I cant see it.He said he will get a mixed reception laugh out loud

For my part he will be treated to the indifference I normally reserve for nonentity players from opposition clubs.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Hull Baggie on May 06, 2014, 10:50:22 AM
Has anyone pointed out to them they ain't in the Midlands ?

Pride of Staffordshire maybe but then then with only Port Vale, Crewe and the dingles to join them it ain't hard is it.

so is Staffordshire not in the midlands then? Before the formation of the West Midlands as a county wasn't West Bromwich also in Staffordshire?
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Jack Russell on May 06, 2014, 10:54:39 AM
so is Staffordshire not in the midlands then? Before the formation of the West Midlands as a county wasn't West Bromwich also in Staffordshire?


Correct.My address was West Bromwich South Staffs
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: OldburyWBA on May 06, 2014, 10:56:23 AM
How far we going back for the boundary changes ? In Staffordshire in these modern days.

Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Hull Baggie on May 06, 2014, 11:03:39 AM
How far we going back for the boundary changes ? In Staffordshire in these modern days.

Boundary changes were 1974 if memory serves. "Staffordshire in these modern days" wouldn't include Wolverhampton though would it? or Crewe as that's Cheshire! Stoke, Port vale and Burton Albion are Staffordshire teams.

I am aware that the wolves/Staffordshire thing is a dig at them for our supposed Brummie allegiences.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Greenock Baggie on May 06, 2014, 10:02:59 PM

Correct.My address was West Bromwich South Staffs
Yep, the police station in Tipton has the Staffordshire knot legend above the main entrance door.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: zippyandbungle on May 06, 2014, 10:50:31 PM
Are you going to applaud Odemwonga for the 30 goals he scored for us, he reckons he still has some support for this.I cant see it.He said he will get a mixed reception laugh out loud
I'll clap him, absolute modern day legend , really happy that each has their own opinions but please respect mine..
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Chipperfan on May 07, 2014, 12:09:38 PM
I'll clap him, absolute modern day legend , really happy that each has their own opinions but please respect mine..

Totally respect your opinion Zippy, but legend? No, not modern day or otherwise. A legend died just a week or so back, Clive Clark. He scored as many goals in one season, back when footballs were lumps of lead and it was a full back's duty to maim the opposition winger, as PO managed in his time here.

Clive Clark was a legend, PO was a footnote.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Jack Russell on May 07, 2014, 12:23:43 PM
Steven Reid might be a legend on Sunday nudge nudge wink wink say no more
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: OldburyWBA on May 07, 2014, 12:26:45 PM
Odemwingie could have become a legend but ruined it at the end and has made it worse by carrying on after all the whinging he did here even when he was a fans favourite.

Term Legend is banded about way to easy these days though
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Greenock Baggie on May 08, 2014, 12:38:56 AM
Come and get your free 3 points Stoke, we wont even turn up as we have already left for Benidorm !!
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Jack Russell on May 09, 2014, 10:55:43 AM
Delilah in me lug holes all game :(
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Aixelsyd on September 05, 2014, 01:37:46 AM
Peter Odemwingie was not included in Stoke's 25-man Premier League squad.

Knee injury and no chance of him playing before January.


Premier League - Odemwingie faces long-term absence
Stoke forward Peter Odemwingie is facing a lengthy spell on the sidelines with a knee injury, manager Mark Hughes has revealed.

Odemwingie was carried off on a stretcher during the Potters' Barclays Premier League victory at champions Manchester City last Saturday.

Hughes initially expressed hope the problem was not serious but now it has emerged the 33-year-old Nigeria international will need an operation.

As yet no timescale has been put on his recovery but the club have not included Odemwingie in their 25-man Premier League squad, meaning he cannot be registered to play until January at the earliest.

Hughes told the club's website, www.stokecityfc.com: "He's going to have some kind of procedure but the medical staff are waiting for the knee to settle down.

"He's going to have to wait a couple of weeks before it's actually done but once the operation is done we know he will work extremely hard to get back.

"It's a significant injury and unfortunately it's a long-term one, but Peter has a great attitude to work and life in general - he's always got a smile on his face - and he's going to need those qualities. It will be a long road back but we wish him well."

Odemwingie only entered the action as a half-time substitute at the Etihad Stadium and almost set up a second goal for match-winner Mame Biram Diouf.

But he was injured in the process and was himself substituted after 65 minutes.

Odemwingie appeared to have settled well at Stoke following his move to the Britannia Stadium last January.

His three-year spell at West Brom ended in acrimony a year ago and a subsequent switch to Cardiff failed to reignite his career.

https://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/news/premier-league-odemwingie-faces-long-term-absence-131109923--sow.html (https://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/news/premier-league-odemwingie-faces-long-term-absence-131109923--sow.html)
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: tuamigos on September 05, 2014, 06:22:17 AM
an injury like that at his age is probably a carear finisher.
Looking on the bright side he can spend all his rehab on Twatter
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Mister AT on September 05, 2014, 08:01:43 AM
Couldnt have happened to a nice idiot.

In all seriousness though, cant really see him recovering from this.
33 years old and with such an injury its VERY RARE that a player finds any form after this at that age.

Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: east-stand-nick on September 05, 2014, 10:17:54 AM
Oh what a shame...
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: tommcneill on September 05, 2014, 10:59:42 AM
My heart bleeds for him
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: SmethDan on September 05, 2014, 12:31:37 PM
While news of his injury did not adversely affect my day, I would not wish serious injury on any player.
Not even on him, despite the acrymonious nature of his departure.
Thanks for the goals Peter.
Just do not score any against us if you do make a come back.
 ;).
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBAinDEVON on September 05, 2014, 12:46:29 PM
Hes finished, will never be the same again apart from driving around car parks that is
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: east-stand-nick on September 05, 2014, 03:13:01 PM
He's done bugger all since he left us, but no doubt the hero-worshippers will still claim we should have kept him.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Quakes Fan on September 05, 2014, 03:21:29 PM
I'll accept some minor (IMHO) off-the-pitch shenanigans for a hat trick at Molineux.

Sorry to hear about your knee, Pete. Hope you recover.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: B_H_Baggie on September 05, 2014, 03:54:30 PM
Wouldn't wish serious injury on any player especially one that will probably be the end of him at his age.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: BobTaylor on September 05, 2014, 04:14:10 PM
Another example of some of our fans being to nice sometimes for a bloke who slagged our club off to the hills.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: B_H_Baggie on September 05, 2014, 04:20:45 PM
Another example of some of our fans being to nice sometimes for a bloke who slagged our club off to the hills.

I prefer to look forward rather than back when it comes to Albion mate. What good does it do anyone to really say something along the lines of it serving him right or I have no sympathy? This is just football there are so many more important things in life to worry about than someone as insignificant as Peter Odemwingie.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: BobTaylor on September 05, 2014, 04:49:17 PM
I prefer to look forward rather than back when it comes to Albion mate. What good does it do anyone to really say something along the lines of it serving him right or I have no sympathy? This is just football there are so many more important things in life to worry about than someone as insignificant as Peter Odemwingie.
Thats true to be fair I can't bring myself to be bigger than that :/.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: east-stand-nick on September 06, 2014, 09:11:37 AM
I'll accept some minor (IMHO) off-the-pitch shenanigans for a hat trick at Molineux.

Sorry to hear about your knee, Pete. Hope you recover.

Minor? What would you class as major?
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: PsalmXXIII on September 06, 2014, 09:30:58 AM
Another example of some of our fans being to nice sometimes for a bloke who slagged our club off to the hills.

And in hindsight you've got to wonder just how much about the 'players mafia' he was right about. At the time I was angry at what he said, but last season showed he may have had a point. And as much as I think he's a pratt after all the driving down to QPR etc, we never contested his story that we made him contractual assurances that weren't kept.

That was never black or white.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on September 06, 2014, 09:41:13 AM
Minor? What would you class as major?

This.

Peter made a complete and utter arse of himself. He might have been stitched up by driving on to their car park but his disrespect towards the fans, previous managers, the board, his current manager (at the time) and fellow team mates was what soured his reputation in my view.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Dudleylad on September 06, 2014, 10:22:22 AM
I firmly believe he was suited to us and we were suited to him and his agent started filling his head with clap trap, there was no coincidence when hes been at a club for a length of time he starts to play up.

As for the injury I dont think any pleasure should be taken but sometimes a rue smile is a natural reaction.

With regards to the players Mafia he did perhaps have a point but when you acted like he did on deadline day players will shut up shop.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Quakes Fan on September 06, 2014, 10:27:35 AM
Minor? What would you class as major?

Killing your partner, then driving to the training ground to commit suicide in front of the head coach and GM. (http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8697360/kansas-city-chiefs-jovan-belcher-kills-girlfriend-commits-suicide-police-say) Since you asked.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: east-stand-nick on September 06, 2014, 01:58:02 PM
Killing your partner, then driving to the training ground to commit suicide in front of the head coach and GM. (http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8697360/kansas-city-chiefs-jovan-belcher-kills-girlfriend-commits-suicide-police-say) Since you asked.

That's an extreme example. So basically, unless a player killed someone, you have to remember them fondly?

I don't wish any player injury. But what goes around, comes around etc.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: TheJacko2000 on September 06, 2014, 02:24:13 PM
Like Odemwingie.  Never had a problem with anything he did. The goals allowed him some leeway imo. Wish him a speedy recovery.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Legend on September 06, 2014, 04:16:10 PM
I really liked him on the pitch and he provided some great moments however he acted unprofessional and should have dealt with the whole situation better than to start yapping away on twitter. I don't really dislike him though because when I think of Pete I remember the 15 goals in the first season and the hat trick against Wolves. It's a shame how it ended with him and the fans as he could have been an Albion legend but it was his own fault really.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Quakes Fan on September 06, 2014, 05:30:11 PM
That's an extreme example. So basically, unless a player killed someone, you have to remember them fondly?

I asserted no such thing. You asked for an example and I provided it.

And it happened to my club, the club I grew up supporting, at about the same time as Pete's trip to Loftus Road. I didn't exactly have to hunt for it. So if there is any subtext, it is this: We have many more professional athletes in the US, and they've done many more unsavoury things. Pete needs to try harder if he wants to upset me.


I don't wish any player injury. But what goes around, comes around etc.

Pete didn't injure anyone. Hurt feelings aren't the equal of a torn ACL or a ruptured quad tendon, speaking from personal experience.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: crazedwbafan18 on September 26, 2014, 03:21:44 PM
As a side point, anyone see 'Marvellous' last night? The story of Neil Baldwin, a lifelong potters fan who became kitman for the club under Lou Macari, quite a heartwarming story even if you aren't a Stoke fan.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Chipperfan on September 26, 2014, 10:10:45 PM
As a side point, anyone see 'Marvellous' last night? The story of Neil Baldwin, a lifelong potters fan who became kitman for the club under Lou Macari, quite a heartwarming story even if you aren't a Stoke fan.

Just watched it on iPlayer. Brilliant story, really really enjoyed it.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: BigFrank20 on March 17, 2015, 06:43:17 PM
There is a hilarious thread on the oatcake about the game on Saturday.
http://oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/241938/woman-who-moaned-farting-away?page=1  :o
Viewer discretion is advised  :D
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Albionic on March 17, 2015, 06:59:43 PM
Thanks for that, pure comic gold
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: BigFrank20 on March 17, 2015, 07:09:04 PM
Who amongst us can put hand on heart and say "I've never done that at a match!"
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Barrington on March 17, 2015, 09:08:40 PM
Bloody funny that is  :)
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WoysWunderful on April 26, 2015, 03:46:19 PM
Went to the stoke sunderland game yesterday, not out of choice but through work (my service user has a season ticket) and if you think the football were playing under pulis is dire....nothing on what i saw yesterday. Ball hardly on the floor, poor passing, kicking crap out o each other. As a neutral there was a complete lack of entertainment. Diffence between us and them is they went 1 down and the stadium errupted,really got behind the team, constant singing and encouragement.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Foster#1 on April 26, 2015, 03:50:28 PM
No relegation threat this season for these lot and another solid season.

Will be happy if we can do what Stoke have done this season.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: stokelad84 on May 15, 2015, 09:52:04 AM
No relegation threat this season for these lot and another solid season.

Will be happy if we can do what Stoke have done this season.

Indeed, the challenge will come next season when Hughes finally dismantles the Pulis spine. Up to yet he's kept the solid shape Pulis left and concentrated on improving the final third. Which has been a good mix.

Begovic, Huth and Whelan all certain to leave. With a big question mark over Jon Walters too. Adam's recent goalscoring form has probably saved him from the chop in the August window. But I can't see him starting next season. Those 5 plus Shawcross (who won't be leaving) are the last real remnants of the of the Pulis way. I expect more 2-2s draws and 3-2 losses next season!
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: ChrisRedditch on May 21, 2015, 08:03:03 PM
It's about time that we started to refer to the clayheads as "Nellos"
And that's as a warm tribute. "Marvellous" was the TV event of the year :)
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: BobTaylor on July 10, 2015, 09:45:19 AM
Lost nzonzi and begovic in goal two big players to lose.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: AlbionBest on July 10, 2015, 06:38:18 PM
Two quality players out and poor incomings with Given and Glen Johnson seemingly due to sign.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: swabey on July 27, 2015, 10:47:02 AM
Two quality players out and poor incomings with Given and Glen Johnson seemingly due to sign.

Those two are great squad players who will provide cover. We all knew Begivic and Nzonzi were going. Butland has been excellent the times he has covered and we don't have any worries about that area.

Nzonzi was our standout player last season and it will be difficult replacing him, however Van Ginkel could be that player.

In addition to our new striker Joselu, who has looked good in pre season, Afellay who is apparently having a medical today, and don't forget Bojan  ;D plus the marquee signing he is trying to persuade to play on a wet Wednesday in Stoke I think we'll have another very good season.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: BaggieBirdRus on July 27, 2015, 10:48:33 AM
Stoke could challenge for Europe this year. They are assembling a very good team
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: swabey on July 27, 2015, 11:07:01 AM
I hope so although the only area I have had concerns with since Hughes arrived has been the defence. I'm never as confident about clearing our lines as I was under Pulis.

Can't have everything I suppose.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: BobTaylor on July 27, 2015, 12:01:22 PM
A lot of these barca rejects there buying will need time to adjust to the prem if they can adapt then they will have a very exciting team.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: PepeMel on January 05, 2016, 08:13:14 PM
Over rated this season  are stokelona I think
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: AlbionBest on January 05, 2016, 08:16:44 PM
Look very poor again so far tonight and where's the crowd gone ? Can only hear the Scousers.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: The Black Pearl on January 05, 2016, 08:40:35 PM
Look very poor again so far tonight and where's the crowd gone ? Can only hear the Scousers.

0-1 down, not looking very good again.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Hong Kong Phooey on January 05, 2016, 08:46:59 PM
0-1 down, not looking very good again.

Good - horrible club, horrible ground, horrible supporters, whingeing manager
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: The Black Pearl on January 05, 2016, 08:50:07 PM
Mark Hughes wearing a suit and tie in the pouring rain, Klopp in rain jacket, which one is the idiot.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: crazedwbafan18 on January 05, 2016, 08:57:06 PM
Good - horrible club, horrible ground, horrible supporters, whingeing manager
This, getting so far ahead of themselves its untrue.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Hong Kong Phooey on January 05, 2016, 09:00:00 PM
Mark Hughes wearing a suit and tie in the pouring rain, Klopp in rain jacket, which one is the idiot.

Would it be the mardy Taff as opposed to the efficient German?
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: The Black Pearl on January 05, 2016, 09:17:20 PM
Would it be the mardy Taff as opposed to the efficient German?

Got it in one, Stoke playing better second half.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: The Black Pearl on January 05, 2016, 10:05:53 PM
The Holy Trinity has gone, the agnostics of Crouch and Walter return to long ball heaven!
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: AlbionBest on January 05, 2016, 10:14:49 PM
The Holy Trinity has gone, the agnostics of Crouch and Walter return to long ball heaven!

I'd like to think we played a major part in destroying that ridiculous myth !    ;D
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: TheJacko2000 on January 05, 2016, 10:16:23 PM
It's dawning on a few of them they're still just an average mid table Premier League side...
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Black Country Pride on January 05, 2016, 10:16:38 PM
Despite the years of crap results against them and the fact that they have some deluded fans I was hoping they'd stuff Liverpool. Better second half but a damp squib overall. Also how S***e was the atmosphere considering it was a semi-final? Still in it at 0-1 though...
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: AlbionBest on January 05, 2016, 10:20:12 PM
Despite the years of crap results against them and the fact that they have some deluded fans I was hoping they'd stuff Liverpool. Better second half but a damp squib overall. Also how S***e was the atmosphere considering it was a semi-final? Still in it at 0-1 though...

the atmosphere

Another great Stoke myth as anyone who has been up there over the past 4/5 seasons will testify to.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: FallOutBoy on January 05, 2016, 10:21:43 PM
You know, I'm starting to wonder if Stoke are hitting a nerve with some people.

For most of the last few years, it's been that we play the football and they win the games. Now the roles have been reversed, and we're beating them the way they used to do to us - but it's like we've had to stoop to their level to do it, while being jealous that they have some decent footballers in Shaquiri, Bojan, and Arnautovic. And the bitchiness and seeming joy people are taking in their misfortune is actually people trying to convince themselves that the way we do things now is better. They have kicked on while we seem to be treading water.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: TheJacko2000 on January 05, 2016, 10:34:15 PM
You know, I'm starting to wonder if Stoke are hitting a nerve with some people.

For most of the last few years, it's been that we play the football and they win the games. Now the roles have been reversed, and we're beating them the way they used to do to us - but it's like we've had to stoop to their level to do it, while being jealous that they have some decent footballers in Shaquiri, Bojan, and Arnautovic. And the bitchiness and seeming joy people are taking in their misfortune is actually people trying to convince themselves that the way we do things now is better. They have kicked on while we seem to be treading water.

Go and have a gander on the Oatcake, if you mean by kicking on they could now challenge for the Champions League then you'll fit right in. Out fought and outplayed on Saturday, out thought and outplayed tonight. They're 3 points ahead of us having scored one more goal. Yet they were predicting 3/4 nil wins against both ourselves and Liverpool.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Legend on January 05, 2016, 10:36:06 PM
You know, I'm starting to wonder if Stoke are hitting a nerve with some people.

For most of the last few years, it's been that we play the football and they win the games. Now the roles have been reversed, and we're beating them the way they used to do to us - but it's like we've had to stoop to their level to do it, while being jealous that they have some decent footballers in Shaquiri, Bojan, and Arnautovic. And the bitchiness and seeming joy people are taking in their misfortune is actually people trying to convince themselves that the way we do things now is better. They have kicked on while we seem to be treading water.

How have they kicked on, they are in a similar position to us.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: leeiswba on January 05, 2016, 10:37:56 PM
They have got on my nerves the last week or so but even I wanted them to win tonight, except for the wolves I don't think there is a set of fans I despise more than the victims.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: B_H_Baggie on January 05, 2016, 10:50:01 PM
They haven't really kicked on significantly, they have managed to just break into the top 10 the last couple of seasons but prior to that they were always around the 13th position mark. They have added some decent flair players over the last couple of years but the spine of the side was already there to be built on.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: FallOutBoy on January 05, 2016, 10:52:46 PM
How have they kicked on, they are in a similar position to us.

Not quite. They no longer have any real relegation worries - they are looking at higher goals. We, meanwhile, only have a mission to stay in the division, despite finishing 11th, 10th, and 8th in successive seasons a while ago.

They also look to improve the squad consistently, while our own has stagnated.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: FallOutBoy on January 05, 2016, 10:53:39 PM
They have added some decent flair players over the last couple of years but the spine of the side was already there to be built on.

And that's how they've kicked on. Just being solid wasn't enough any more - they wanted some flair and creativity.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: B_H_Baggie on January 05, 2016, 10:57:04 PM
And that's how they've kicked on. Just being solid wasn't enough any more - they wanted some flair and creativity.

They weren't just solid before though, they always had decent enough wingers and weren't too bad up front they have just had the benefit of finishing well most seasons making them a more attractive proposition than they once were its natural evolution of a squad if anything.

If we had been finishing comfortable mid table for a few years with the financial backing they have I would have expected us to be able to compete to sign the kind of players they have the last couple of years. Unfortunately we don't have that financial backing and we have flirted massively with relegation the last couple of seasons after mismanagement from the top of the club that we are only just starting to get sorted out.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Legend on January 05, 2016, 11:02:56 PM
Not quite. They no longer have any real relegation worries - they are looking at higher goals. We, meanwhile, only have a mission to stay in the division, despite finishing 11th, 10th, and 8th in successive seasons a while ago.

They also look to improve the squad consistently, while our own has stagnated.

If we had just finished 8th the season before I'd agree with you but we were a team on the decline, finishing 17th and being in 16th when Pulis came in. Seeing us bring in players like Fletcher, Evans and Rondon under TP is improvement for me.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: crazedwbafan18 on January 05, 2016, 11:38:10 PM
You know, I'm starting to wonder if Stoke are hitting a nerve with some people.

For most of the last few years, it's been that we play the football and they win the games. Now the roles have been reversed, and we're beating them the way they used to do to us - but it's like we've had to stoop to their level to do it, while being jealous that they have some decent footballers in Shaquiri, Bojan, and Arnautovic. And the bitchiness and seeming joy people are taking in their misfortune is actually people trying to convince themselves that the way we do things now is better. They have kicked on while we seem to be treading water.
In fairness, their squad probably is better than ours, but in the long run, i cant see Bojan or Shaqiri sticking around. For me though, its the sheer bitterness since we beat them on saturday that has done it. Crying out for a replay because of the Yacob incident. They just hate losing to us, and when you look at our overall record against them since we came back up, you can see why, they've only beaten us once at the Britannia, whereas we've beaten them at theirs twice, and drawn three times. For a team 'that always beats west brom', it's a funny stat to have.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: BigFrank20 on January 06, 2016, 04:00:31 PM
Strange change in tune  and attitude in Staffordshire now the boot is on the other elbow!

http://oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/252474/shawcross-snidy-elbow
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: B_H_Baggie on January 06, 2016, 08:08:15 PM
Strange change in tune  and attitude in Staffordshire now the boot is on the other elbow!

http://oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/252474/shawcross-snidy-elbow

I expect it would have been rescinded on appeal as there is a clear precedent for this kind of thing after last Saturday. As for Shawcross, he's a decent enough defender but never a footballer that lad.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBAinDEVON on January 08, 2016, 09:49:08 AM
over inflated.over rated, nowt special.Mark Hughes period comes to an end next season. hes similar to Steve Bruce, a bit of a surge then goes flat after a few seasons
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Chipperfan on January 08, 2016, 09:52:53 PM
Heard on Radio Stoke this evening (travelling south on the M6, back to God's country from Manchester) that Arnautovic is looking for £100k per week. Like one Stokie on the radio phone in said, he's asking that for producing one game in four.

There's your problem, with modern football, right there.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Standaman on January 09, 2016, 12:08:16 PM
Arnautovic is a very good player on his day a bit like Sess the key part of that statement is the qualifying "on his day"  but how frequently is his day? A £100k a week would imply quite frequently. The question for Stoke and by extension ourselves because we are a similar sized club is should you pay it and if you don't will somebody else?

Firstly mid-table premier league clubs are edging slowly towards the £100,000 a week footballer if reports were true about the £70,000 a week we were prepared to pay Ba then a £100,000 isn't that far fetched. The TV deal will propel the top earners at teams like Stoke close to that figure, Aranutovic knows this and is just laying down a marker.

Secondly will other clubs pay Aranutovic what he wants? The clubs that habitually pay £100,000 a week even to players who are not among their best and brightest are few and far between and none that aren't champions league regulars outside England.

I think Stoke could and should call his agent's bluff on this because there is simply nobody else who will stump up that sort of money particularly with a big fee involved. All that said football has a habit of astounding me when it comes to these matters. :o
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Legend on January 26, 2016, 10:32:35 PM
Stoke were the better team and deserved to go through. Never mind though.  :P
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: TheJacko2000 on January 26, 2016, 10:42:48 PM
Stoke were the better team and deserved to go through. Never mind though.  :P

Not sure how you figure that out, their only shot on target was an offside goal?
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: caravanc58 on January 26, 2016, 10:55:45 PM
bless, the London bin dippers can have a day out.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: crazedwbafan18 on January 27, 2016, 08:14:53 AM
Urgh their pride in their team despite losing makes me jealous. If that were us at anfield we would bottle it I'm sure.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Hull Baggie on January 27, 2016, 10:03:31 AM
Urgh their pride in their team despite losing makes me jealous. If that were us at anfield we would bottle it I'm sure.

Why we were very unlucky not to win there ourselves.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Legend on January 27, 2016, 11:59:33 AM
Not sure how you figure that out, their only shot on target was an offside goal?

We'll agree to disagree on this one.  :)
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: TheJacko2000 on February 01, 2016, 11:34:54 PM
Nearly £19 million on a guy who was in and out of the Porto team. Good luck with that.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBAinDEVON on February 03, 2016, 10:09:28 AM
Mark Hughes is overrated
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: TheJacko2000 on February 03, 2016, 02:40:43 PM
Season over? Out of both cups and hammered by "the crap" in a week.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: stokelad84 on February 03, 2016, 03:18:43 PM
Season over? Out of both cups and hammered by "the crap" in a week.

It looks like it. 1 offside goal in the last 490 minutes played. No shots on target against an under pressure Man United.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Hong Kong Phooey on February 03, 2016, 08:55:11 PM
We're not the only ones struggling to hit the target then?

It can happen to the likes of Stokelona  :o  no wonder they were interested in Berahino  :-*

Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Lloydy on February 03, 2016, 09:11:00 PM
We're not the only ones struggling to hit the target then?

It can happen to the likes of Stokelona  :o  no wonder they were interested in Berahino  :-*

If only we were interested in him! ???
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Hong Kong Phooey on February 03, 2016, 09:22:35 PM
If only we were interested in him! ???

He started it...the best thing he can do is to play his way to a "big" club...if he does the business then who knows, maybe Spurs might come back in for him...he can do better than Newcastle and Stoke!
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBAinDEVON on February 08, 2016, 11:35:36 AM
Mark Hughes bubble always bursts, look at his club record. they could go down yet
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: TheJacko2000 on February 08, 2016, 11:50:43 AM
The last 2 weeks has well and truly burst this prematurely burgeoning bubble, they were talking about winning the League Cup and finishing top 6 on the Oatcake while playing Barcelona football a month ago, now they're grimly looking over their shoulders at Newcastle and Sunderland, out of both cups unable to buy either a point or a goal.

What massive strides Stoke have made since Pulis left...
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Dan on February 08, 2016, 11:59:35 AM
The last 2 weeks has well and truly burst this prematurely burgeoning bubble, they were talking about winning the League Cup and finishing top 6 on the Oatcake while playing Barcelona football a month ago, now they're grimly looking over their shoulders at Newcastle and Sunderland, out of both cups unable to buy either a point or a goal.

What massive strides Stoke have made since Pulis left...

They got higher points totals in the last two seasons and higher finishing positions than they ever got under Pulis.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: zippyandbungle on February 09, 2016, 07:13:14 PM
The last 2 weeks has well and truly burst this prematurely burgeoning bubble, they were talking about winning the League Cup and finishing top 6 on the Oatcake while playing Barcelona football a month ago, now they're grimly looking over their shoulders at Newcastle and Sunderland, out of both cups unable to buy either a point or a goal.

What massive strides Stoke have made since Pulis left...
Bojan shaquiri and arnautavic play some pretty good football.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: B_H_Baggie on February 10, 2016, 10:35:20 AM
Bojan shaquiri and arnautavic play some pretty good football.

From what I have seen of them they do but you would have thought attacking talent like that and so called good football would have resulted in more than 24 goals being scored at this stage of the season. Yet we have been a lot more defensive minded this season and we have scored just one goal less than they have, for their squad and all the plaudits they have got this season I think they have massively under performed.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBAinDEVON on April 23, 2016, 02:24:23 PM
Mark Hughes, as per like with all other teams he has managed they hit a brick wall
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: elmo_in_swansea on April 23, 2016, 02:26:38 PM
Shipping goals for fun at the moment - definitely on the beach - 4 in each of the last 3 games! Still 10mins left v Citeh!
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: B_H_Baggie on April 23, 2016, 02:29:15 PM
Albion are on the beach but Stoke are floating around the sea on their lilos.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBAinDEVON on August 31, 2016, 04:33:46 PM
our main local this season, Oatcake always a fascinating read
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: AlbionBest on September 10, 2016, 05:49:49 PM
The Oatcake cake seem about as happy as us !!! 

http://oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/board/2/stoke-city-fc

Maybe a manger swap ?   :o :o
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: TheJacko2000 on September 10, 2016, 09:21:22 PM
The Oatcake cake seem about as happy as us !!! 

http://oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/board/2/stoke-city-fc

Maybe a manger swap ?   :o :o

But Stoke are the next level to us?  ::)
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on September 10, 2016, 09:24:43 PM
Swap managers..
Mark Hughes would get Berahino, who he wanted.
Pulis would get deja vue.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: FallOutBoy on September 12, 2016, 01:15:13 PM
Swap managers..
Mark Hughes would get Berahino, who he wanted.
Pulis would get deja vue.

That wouldn't go down well. Pulis doesn't like foreign players.

 :P
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: skyclad99 on September 12, 2016, 01:23:47 PM
The Oatcake cake seem about as happy as us !!! 

http://oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/board/2/stoke-city-fc

Maybe a manger swap ?   :o :o

Wouldn't it be ironic if we ditch TP and he gets the call to save Stoke....again!

Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Lloydy on September 12, 2016, 01:43:17 PM
Stoke have always been slow starters under Hughes. They will be fine.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Mikkyk on September 12, 2016, 04:37:40 PM
Really do think Hughes has lost his head this time and think it will only be a matter of time before he's sacked.

Too much money always goes to his head.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Aixelsyd on September 23, 2016, 12:34:01 AM
So were we really interested in Bony?

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/stoke-loanee-wilfried-bony-causing-8894202

Stoke loanee Wilfried Bony causing dressing-room unrest with lack of effort for Premier League's bottom club

22:30, 22 SEP 2016 UPDATED 23:28, 22 SEP 2016 BY DAVID ANDERSON
Boss Mark Hughes and his players unhappy with attitude of striker who arrived from Man City as the Potters' £120,000 a week top earner but is yet to score a goal.

Wilfried Bony’s attitude is being questioned by his Stoke team-mates - just three weeks after arriving at the club.

Boss Mark Hughes hoped striker Bony would be the proven Premier League goal-getter his Potters have lacked when he landed him on loan from Manchester City on Deadline Day last month.

But it is understood he and his staff are already unhappy with the 27-year-old for failing to show the appetite and work-rate they expect of their players.

Bony is Stoke’s highest-paid player because they have taken on most of his £120,000-a-week man City salary, and team-mates believe he is not providing the Midlands club with value for money.

The Ivory Coast international is yet to score in his three appearances and looks a shadow of the player who terrorised Premier League defences with 25 goals in a season and a half with Swansea before his move to Man City in January last year.

There were also question marks about Bony when he was at the Blues, and Swansea were put off re-signing him in the summer because of a perceived poor attitude.

Hughes’ foreign invasion of recent signings has caused discord in the dressing room, with record-buy Giannelli Imbula also unpopular.

The French midfielder has not integrated with the squad since an £18.3million move from Porto in January, keeping himself apart.

This has caused resentment at a time when the team needs to be united to halt an early-season losing run.

Stoke are bottom with just one point from five games - conceding four goals in three of them - are also out of the EFL Cup after last-gasp defeat by promoted Hull on Wednesday.

They have been on the slide since the start of April, winning just one of 12 league matches.

Despite chairman Peter Coates’ public backing for Hughes, it is understood the Welshman's position is under growing threat.

He knows he needs to beat West Brom - led by his Potters predecessor Tony Pulis - when they visit the Bet365 Stadium on Saturday.

Skipper Ryan Shawcross revealed Hughes has given them the hairdryer treatment made famous by their former Man United boss Alex Ferguson, because he is so angry with their displays and claims they are desperate to put things right.

“The manager has let it be known to us in on uncertain terms that we have let him, the supporters and, most importantly, ourselves down,” said defender Shawcross.

“It’s a worry and we know that our failures have to be rectified immediately, but it’s imperative we stick to our principles and keep putting the work in on the training ground to help us come through this tricky period.”
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: BigFrank20 on November 20, 2016, 04:46:20 PM
Oh the delightful irony of the clayheads complaining bitterly about time wasting and injury faking

http://oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/262805/time-wasting-cheating-all

 
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBArgo on November 20, 2016, 10:57:53 PM
Oh the delightful irony of the clayheads complaining bitterly about time wasting and injury faking

http://oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/262805/time-wasting-cheating-all

I get your point and all fans will be biased but with regards to Eddie Howe I absoultely agree with them 100% and I can't stand him to be honest.
I think the media love him because he's with 'under-dogs' Bournemouth (who are quite heavily bankrolled may I add) and that he's young and English...and of course a fairly decent manager who plays good football.

But with regards to dirty tricks, he is the worst manager of the lot for me and it's quite obvious that he gets his players diving and time-wasting. I know Pulis likes to time-waste but at least he doesn't cheat with diving, whereas it seems Howe actively encourages it. Nothing really gets said as it sounds like a conspiracy but if you watch Bournemouth again you'll notice they're always at it so I can see how it winds the Stoke fans up.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: SmethDan on November 20, 2016, 11:59:49 PM
Nothing really gets said as it sounds like a conspiracy but if you watch Bournemouth again you'll notice they're always at it so I can see how it winds the Stoke fans up.

Wound the fk out of me at our place last season  >:( .
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Standaman on November 21, 2016, 06:37:07 AM
Any fan of a team that has been managed by Tony Pulis and has been happy with that arrangement has lost the right to complain about time wasting forever
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: SmethDan on November 21, 2016, 08:24:32 AM
Speaking for myself I was more vexed by the diving and general ref' conning prevalent as a feature of much of their performance against us at the Hawthorns last year. From memory while both of our red cards were deserved, I was dismayed to see a team described in the press as some kind of south coast Barca' resort to such levels of gamesmanship.

They are (in my opinion) a team capable of decent ball retention, an ability which would be greater enhanced were they to work on staying upright. As for their constant arm waving and 'working' of the ref' I am not a fan, be it from Bournemouth, Barca' or the Albion.

I don't care who our boss is, was or will be at some point in the future, I am not a fan of Bouremouth's antics. If by some strange twist of fate Howe were to become our boss I still wouldn't be a fan of that side of the game. As such I haven't lost the 'right to complain' and will continue to do so if I wish ☺ .
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBAinDEVON on January 06, 2017, 10:42:22 AM
not long now our game with this lot, i wonder will Berahino be in their squad come the 4th of Feb

For me Hughes is very much like Bruce. Shine for a while then starts misfiring 2 years later
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBAinDEVON on January 13, 2017, 03:38:36 PM
winning this game against the potters on feb 4th will make up for the derby loss, even more sweet if fattys in their team
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBAinDEVON on January 17, 2017, 02:41:10 PM
whos going to take care of him on his debut for them :)
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: wba13 on January 17, 2017, 04:42:31 PM
With an a**e the size of his they will be lucky to get it off the bench
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBAinDEVON on January 23, 2017, 05:19:40 PM
http://oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/264898/wba-view


there you go folks if theres nowt on telly
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBAinDEVON on February 01, 2017, 08:43:30 AM
as far as i am concerned anything him should now go in here, is he in their sqaud for their game tonight
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: wba13 on February 01, 2017, 07:16:58 PM
He meaning Beras**t only on the bench
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: VVVAlbion on February 01, 2017, 07:45:52 PM
It took 12 days to get Berahino fit enough to get on the Stoke bench. Perhaps we should have targeted  their fitness coaches in the transfer window or perhaps he wasn't as unfit as we were led to believe.  ;)
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Baggies on February 01, 2017, 07:48:54 PM
It took 12 days to get Berahino fit enough to get on the Stoke bench. Perhaps we should have targeted  their fitness coaches in the transfer window or perhaps he wasn't as unfit as we were led to believe.  ;)

He was never as unfit as the claimed. His attitude was clearly terrible (backed up by a prick of an agent as seen on sky sports news today) and his form had tailed off badly, but the whole fitness excuse was nonsense in the end. Maybe at the start, but not by the end. The club were silly to keep going in about that.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: wba13 on February 01, 2017, 08:36:19 PM
Agreed baggies most of us new he was fit but other factors were keeping him out of the side and as you said on the agent trying to make out he did no wrong utter cobblers
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Aixelsyd on February 01, 2017, 08:56:13 PM
Agreed baggies most of us new he was fit but other factors were keeping him out of the side and as you said on the agent trying to make out he did no wrong utter cobblers

Yes it is cobblers.... but you really can't blame his Parasite for "talking up" his client.

Once it all unravels at Stoke (give it six months) you may hear a bit more of the truth.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: silver surfer on February 01, 2017, 09:31:14 PM
http://oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/264898/wba-view


there you go folks if theres nowt on telly
seem like a nice bunch.
I didn't realise what a big club they were.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on February 01, 2017, 09:36:50 PM
Berahino on the pitch for Stoke.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: SmethDan on February 01, 2017, 09:46:53 PM
seem like a nice bunch.
I didn't realise what a big club they were.

Bunch of............

http://i63.tinypic.com/x43wqw.png[/img]](http://i63.tinypic.com/x43wqw.png) (http://[IMG) ..........s more like  ;) .
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBAinDEVON on February 01, 2017, 11:34:23 PM
Berahino on the pitch for Stoke.



Had one cleared off the line after he lobbed the keeper
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: LoxleyBaggie on February 02, 2017, 10:47:14 AM
seem like a nice bunch.
I didn't realise what a big club they were.

I am impressed by how secret they have managed to keep it, to the extent of preventing their name even appearing on trophies.  Scarcely anyone outside Stoke is aware of this, although apparently they are fond of repeating it ad infinitum down Burslem way.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBAinDEVON on February 02, 2017, 06:02:12 PM
http://oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/265243/west-bromwich-albion-stoke-city

thought i would tickle your fancies
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBAinDEVON on February 02, 2017, 06:27:52 PM
if he were to act the big one i can see someone running on and nutting him
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: wba13 on February 02, 2017, 10:41:16 PM
Hope there happy they have bought a crack head :P :P 


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Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: tommcneill on February 03, 2017, 11:16:55 AM
Why they dont like us I dont know its not like they are a local rival.

They are nothing to us, they just want to latch onto some kind of rivalry and ramp it up to be something it isnt. Port Vale, Leek Town and Macclesfield are your rivals.

We have our local rivals thanks.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBAinDEVON on February 03, 2017, 11:26:24 AM
they best not be in the fanzone, worse than the dingles
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Jordie1471 on February 03, 2017, 11:29:27 AM
Feel a bit sorry for them really.

Like the forgotten youngest grandchild desperately trying to get attention and noticed but getting ignored relentlessly.



Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: BoingFlyer on February 03, 2017, 11:36:56 AM
Small town mentality when they only have one decent club. Same as Leeds and Leicester fans.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Albionic on February 03, 2017, 11:58:52 AM
Small town mentality when they only have one decent club. Same as Leeds and Leicester fans.

small town mentality - leeds????  The 3rd biggest City in the country (not manchester !!!)
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBAinDEVON on February 04, 2017, 06:05:21 PM
Mark Hughes quite possibly the biggest bellend of a coach going, overrated over reactions.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: AlbionBest on February 04, 2017, 07:50:06 PM
how quiet were they today!!!
Lol
Looks like the apathy and silence of the Brit as now affected their usually excellent away support.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Hong Kong Phooey on February 04, 2017, 09:34:31 PM
Stoke = bunch of *****
Berahino = ****
They never beat West Brom  :o
End of story... ???

Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: tommcneill on February 04, 2017, 10:18:53 PM
Oh dear even quite a few of the posters on the oatcake are worried theyve bought a turkey now

They think he should goto a fitness camp...

I honestly think he will drop down the leagues over the next few years
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: timdon on February 04, 2017, 10:31:26 PM
Oh dear even quite a few of the posters on the oatcake are worried theyve bought a turkey now

They think he should goto a fitness camp...

I honestly think he will drop down the leagues over the next few years
Thought he had just been to two fitness camps, but completely agree with you. Stoke fans already beginning to suspect he may not be all they had hoped. I think this may be our best ever sale, and weve had a few crackers
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: dan7heman on February 04, 2017, 11:07:04 PM
Oatcake is the best other team forum to read. Today especially.. love it
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: east-stand-nick on February 05, 2017, 12:32:09 AM
Oh dear even quite a few of the posters on the oatcake are worried theyve bought a turkey now

They think he should goto a fitness camp...

I honestly think he will drop down the leagues over the next few years

Either that or he'll end up behind bars at some point.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: CL3MO on February 05, 2017, 12:54:07 PM
From a quick glance at the Oatcake, I've got to say, other than their hatred towards TP, they're coming across as quite gracious losers. A lot of them have praised 'bargain buy' Nyom, in how he nullified their biggest threat, Arnoutavic (sp?).

The few posters who have criticised our style of football and how we played, have been shot down by the majority who have said we played some great stuff, more so in the first half.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Dexy on February 05, 2017, 01:56:57 PM
From a quick glance at the Oatcake, I've got to say, other than their hatred towards TP, they're coming across as quite gracious losers. A lot of them have praised 'bargain buy' Nyom, in how he nullified their biggest threat, Arnoutavic (sp?).

The few posters who have criticised our style of football and how we played, have been shot down by the majority who have said we played some great stuff, more so in the first half.
From a team that spent 60 mins aiming balls to Crouch....... ;D
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: liverbaggie on February 05, 2017, 02:37:05 PM
Hey guys,what a tit their manager Hughes is,he seemed more upset at tone not shaking his hand than the fact that his team had been beaten.
Also when would a time been more appropriate for sb drug ban to have been leaked,when it suited him?
I think he knows he has been given the wba managers curse,he will be history at end of season,hes not good enough for this league.
This stoke team are full of misfits,respect to crouch though.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: B_H_Baggie on February 05, 2017, 02:59:34 PM
Hey guys,what a tit their manager Hughes is,he seemed more upset at tone not shaking his hand than the fact that his team had been beaten.
Also when would a time been more appropriate for sb drug ban to have been leaked,when it suited him?
I think he knows he has been given the wba managers curse,he will be history at end of season,hes not good enough for this league.
This stoke team are full of misfits,respect to crouch though.

He does everything he can to deflect the attention away from himself after a loss, never his fault.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: tommcneill on February 05, 2017, 03:36:56 PM
Some on the oatcake saying that Hughes didnt shake Pulis's hand last year at his 1000th game....but complain Pulis has a lack of class

Hughes is a terrible manager, they should concentrate their worries on that

They also think they are a better team than us, West Ham and Watford....

No you're not Stoke youve gotta stop believing that twonk in charge of you
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: SmethDan on February 05, 2017, 05:13:30 PM
A lot of them are very disillusioned with Mr Hughes.

Very interesting to read some of their comments regarding Stoke supporters fighting their own at the Hawthorns yesterday.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: wba13 on February 05, 2017, 10:48:16 PM
Shawcroft now sticking his ore in saying it was someone at the Albion who leaked the Beras**t story bloody hell there bad loser`s wish they would go and get a life
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: tuamigos on February 06, 2017, 06:34:41 AM
Shawcroft now sticking his ore in saying it was someone at the Albion who leaked the Beras**t story bloody hell there bad loser`s wish they would go and get a life

No $hit Ryan.
After all the club and manager have been through over the last 2 years with that little git, I bet they couldn't wait to show him for what he is.
Glad the club did what they did.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Standaman on February 06, 2017, 06:45:38 AM
Be under no doubt that Albion leaked the Berahino drugs ban or rather confirmed it to journalists who had the story nearly four weeks ago but to their credit hadn't run it without confirmation from one of the parties involved.

I am guessing had Berahino just gone to Stoke and kept quite on his time at the Hawthorns rather than taking potshots at the Albion management then the club would have stayed silent on the drugs ban.

I can see why Hughes is incandescent with rage. If he stuck his neck out to get Berahino in and reports of a 5 year £70k week contract are accurate a lot of his credibility with the Stoke board is on the line here. Right now this looks very bad for him particularly on the basis of the 30 minutes that I saw from the player on Saturday which were pretty awful.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: swad35 on February 06, 2017, 07:10:14 AM
Be under no doubt that Albion leaked the Berahino drugs ban or rather confirmed it to journalists who had the story nearly four weeks ago but to their credit hadn't run it without confirmation from one of the parties involved.

I am guessing had Berahino just gone to Stoke and kept quite on his time at the Hawthorns rather than taking potshots at the Albion management then the club would have stayed silent on the drugs ban.

I can see why Hughes is incandescent with rage. If he stuck his neck out to get Berahino in and reports of a 5 year £70k week contract are accurate a lot of his credibility with the Stoke board is on the line here. Right now this looks very bad for him particularly on the basis of the 30 minutes that I saw from the player on Saturday which were pretty awful.

Exactly this. I think Hughes is more upset that his sanctioned transfer will be questioned then that his second half sub was upset by the abuse. Remember before they signed him how vocal Hughes was about the transfer. Hughes probably only intended to bring him on at the end, he is clearly not match fit. It was said on here earlier good business by Albion, 15 million for a social media fan, out of form, overweight and soon to be end of contract player is impressive.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: SmethDan on February 06, 2017, 07:42:24 AM
Anything which upsets Mark Hughes is fine by me, consumate bellend.

As for Saido I used to stick up for him.

Think TP summed that one up quite well though.

Not our problem any more.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBAinDEVON on February 06, 2017, 08:24:44 AM
it should have been made public straight away about the little druggie
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: The Black Pearl on February 06, 2017, 09:16:04 AM
Probably one of his 'friends' leaked it for money, like the photos of the laughing gas.

It was leaked 4 weeks ago so I can not see it was a leak by the club, it would have not been good for our chances of selling.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Hull Baggie on February 06, 2017, 09:23:07 AM
I think it's quite telling that Stoke seem more annoyed that the truth has been leaked rather than the fact that their new £12+M striker has been using recreational drugs.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: wba13 on February 06, 2017, 10:29:22 AM
Yes wbadevan I think it should have been made public straight away but what you expect from the FA As for Clayheads tin pot club with tinpot players
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: popmonkey on February 06, 2017, 11:58:01 AM
If I was a newspaper editor and this story landed on my desk, I'd want to use it when it would get the most attention, and what better time than when the player is heading back to his old club.

Stoke need to drop the matter now and move on, otherwise it'll hang over them for much longer than it needs to.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: TheBrom on February 06, 2017, 07:00:12 PM
From a team that spent 60 mins aiming balls to Crouch....... ;D

Ironically that was when they were most dangerous. Then decided they didn't fancy anything out of the game by bringing the clown on
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: wba13 on February 06, 2017, 11:11:05 PM
Now its Charlie F**king Adam putting his 10 penth worth in Just think if them dumb clayheads handn`t have bought the fat bar steward they would have had now`t to talk about Whoever leaked it good on them ;) ;)
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: OllieTheBaggie on February 07, 2017, 01:22:15 AM
it should have been made public straight away about the little druggie

Nope definitely not imo, could have slashed his value into fractions of what we got for him, would have been a poor business decision to leak that info. What the club did was genius, offload him at a high price to a club we're about to play with dirt on him and see if he keeps quiet. Saido chose not to be quiet and fired shots at Albion trying to make them look like the enemy for not playing him, and Albion exposed him and showed everyone exactly why he wasn't playing, i don't think the club could have played it any better imo.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: gerry m on February 07, 2017, 05:22:20 AM
Nope definitely not imo, could have slashed his value into fractions of what we got for him, would have been a poor business decision to leak that info. What the club did was genius, offload him at a high price to a club we're about to play with dirt on him and see if he keeps quiet. Saido chose not to be quiet and fired shots at Albion trying to make them look like the enemy for not playing him, and Albion exposed him and showed everyone exactly why he wasn't playing, i don't think the club could have played it any better imo.

Spot on for me that!.Still cannot believe he was  claiming he was fit to play knowing full well his ban meant he could not. Spoilt little brat!.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Chipperfan on February 07, 2017, 05:41:36 AM
Spot on for me that!.Still cannot believe he was  claiming he was fit to play knowing full well his ban meant he could not. Spoilt little brat!.

It just demonstrates what a good many on here have said. He's not only arrogant, conceited and up himself. He's thick as well.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: tuamigos on February 07, 2017, 06:31:21 AM
We can't say it very often but the PR dept at West Brom did a first rate job.
The timing of the 'leak' was genius and I bet with all the crap that was coming from Stoke after the bought 'the twerp' they were laughing there socks off knowing what they were about to unleash.
Well done West Brom
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: skyclad99 on February 07, 2017, 06:59:54 AM
I am just enjoying all of the 'in fighting' on Oatcake - most amusing.

If 'fatboy' had banged one in then it would have been a different story - they just need to suck it up and move on

New meaning to the phrase 'Saido has scored' though.... :)
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: The Black Pearl on February 07, 2017, 08:47:32 AM
I think everyone needs to remember the papers had this story 4 weeks ago, this was not 'controlled' by the Albion, it probably did not come from any official source as that would have been against FA protocol, my guess is someone connected to the club, maybe in the academy or elsewhere in the structure tipped off a journalist, it is also highly probable someone connected with Berahino's social life did it. He is the sort who would have lots of hangers on.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: tommcneill on February 07, 2017, 09:24:27 AM
Ive just watched Charlie Adam's interview on 5Live....its quite simple instead of firing shots and accusing us why dont they produce some proof of who did it?? Put up or shut up!

Like has been said before the Daily Mail had this story 4 weeks ago and didnt print it because it would have maximum effect before the game against us....

Its quite simple we have sold Stoke a lemon, they are now deflecting the issue away from him but onto us the club that protected him when he was here even though he was spouting off to all and sundry that he was fit to play when he infact wasnt able to

Saido is a prize bell.....he should have kept his gob shut, he is the reason for the entire episode no one else is too blame but him. He has left us and trouble has followed him instantly to his new club...deal with it Stoke weve had to for the last 2 years
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: tommcneill on February 07, 2017, 09:31:21 AM
Just had another read of the oatcake.....are they that stupid that they dont realise that we didnt leak this before the game! The papers did, theyve had the story for 4 weeks......
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: hardtobeat on February 07, 2017, 10:33:56 AM
 its surely obvious even to the Oatcake crew who is responsible for the leaks and that is (Drum Roll please) Saido, No Ban = No Story and the Baggies all lived happily ever after(or til the next transfer window)and 12mil better off!! ........THE End
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Jordie1471 on February 07, 2017, 10:40:31 AM
As the old saying goes

'If you want to be a premiership footballer and don't want people to know you have been banned 8 weeks for failing a drug test, don't fail a drug test'


Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: LoxleyBaggie on February 07, 2017, 11:57:53 AM
Just had another read of the oatcake.....are they that stupid that they dont realise that we didnt leak this before the game! The papers did, theyve had the story for 4 weeks......

Curiously though they couldn't run the story because West Brom wouldn't confirm it. The article doesn't quote any one from West Brom confirming it but it does say that when they asked Mark Hughes if he knew about a drug ban he said he did.  So maybe there is no supergrass (no joke intended), just an unwitting accomplish.  Just a thought.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: tuamigos on February 07, 2017, 12:04:18 PM
Curiously though they couldn't run the story because West Brom wouldn't confirm it. The article doesn't quote any one from West Brom confirming it but it does say that when they asked Mark Hughes if he knew about a drug ban he said he did.  So maybe there is no supergrass (no joke intended), just an unwitting accomplish.  Just a thought.

Nahh I prefer to think that we leaked it. Just to wind those clay heads up
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: SmethDan on February 07, 2017, 12:56:10 PM
The whole response from Stoke is pretty pathetic now. They knew about the drugs and the rest of his baggage. They would surely have known that it was going to come out at some point. The timing of which was of no real relevance.

They knew that Berahino was going to get dogs abuse if he turned up at the Hawthorns. He turned up at the Hawthorns and got dogs abuse. Hughes chose to throw him on when he is nowhere near match fit. Cue more dogs abuse. I really think Hughes should be looking at his own selection and tactics before casting aspersions as to any subterfuge by the Albion. He threw his new signing under a bus. Quite apt as TP had previously stated we had saved Saido from similar.

I also think the Stoke players should be looking to themselves regarding their abject first half performance, man up and stop trying to deflect from their own deficiencies on the day. Shut your mouth, wipe your chin and get on with things. Bunch of fkn cry babies.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: tuamigos on February 07, 2017, 01:10:45 PM
I would imagine that Stoke decided to kick towards the Brummy in the second half to give the fat kid a little more impetus to score in-front of the fans abusing him
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: baggie53 on February 07, 2017, 01:16:20 PM
I would imagine that Stoke decided to kick towards the Brummy in the second half to give the fat kid a little more impetus to score in-front of the fans abusing him

If memory serves Stoke kicked off 1st half, meaning we chose ends, I would imagine so that the low sun was in their keeper' eyes instead of Foster's in the 1st half
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: tuamigos on February 07, 2017, 01:21:55 PM
If memory serves Stoke kicked off 1st half, meaning we chose ends, I would imagine so that the low sun was in their keeper' eyes instead of Foster's in the 1st half

Thinking about it you could be right!
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: skyclad99 on February 07, 2017, 01:28:28 PM
If memory serves Stoke kicked off 1st half, meaning we chose ends, I would imagine so that the low sun was in their keeper' eyes instead of Foster's in the 1st half

Well done 53, that makes sense. And there was me thinking that this was a deliberate act by Stoke to mess with our Fen shui....... :)
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: tuamigos on February 07, 2017, 01:33:27 PM
Well done 53, that makes sense. And there was me thinking that this was a deliberate act by Stoke to mess with our Fen shui....... :)

Is that the owners son?
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: TheBrom on February 07, 2017, 01:39:33 PM
Well done 53, that makes sense. And there was me thinking that this was a deliberate act by Stoke to mess with our Fen shui....... :)

Yeah it was definitely the sun, I said similar before kickoff and saw Foster using his hands to block the sun - was right over the goal at the brummie end.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: skyclad99 on February 07, 2017, 01:44:20 PM
Is that the owners son?

Steady chap!!!

 :D
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WoysWunderful on February 07, 2017, 03:31:28 PM
that afroman song stoke fans were singing about saido thats doing the rounds on social media is quality ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBAinDEVON on February 07, 2017, 05:41:10 PM
Charlie Adam pointing the finger now
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: SmethDan on February 07, 2017, 06:25:27 PM
that afroman song stoke fans were singing about saido thats doing the rounds on social media is quality ;D ;D ;D

Barely heard a peep out of them chap, certainly didn't hear them sing anything about Saido.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: TheBrom on February 07, 2017, 10:11:43 PM
Barely heard a peep out of them chap, certainly didn't hear them sing anything about Saido.

Think they were too busy fighting with each other
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WoysWunderful on February 07, 2017, 11:22:48 PM
Barely heard a peep out of them chap, certainly didn't hear them sing anything about Saido.

yeah I thought they were quieter than usual, no complaints as I hate deliah more than any other song

but I did say social media  ;)
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Jordie1471 on February 08, 2017, 11:21:04 AM
Just had a look on this oatcake thing i've heard people mention to have a laugh at the Berahino thread.

Quickly saw a paragraph that made me chuckle

'In all seriousness though, if you're a West Brom fan and you honestly believe that West Brom fans don't see Stoke City as a rival, not geographically but in footballing terms and with plenty of animosity flowing BOTH ways, then you've been on the old showbiz sherbet yourself'


If there are any Stoke fans lurking, sorry to disappoint you but I think I speak on behalf of all of us when I say we care about/hate you as much as we do the likes Charlton or Wrexham.

Only feel sympathy for how desperate you are for us to hate you like you hate us.

We just don't though. Sorry about that.

Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: TheBrom on February 08, 2017, 01:36:44 PM
Just had a look on this oatcake thing i've heard people mention to have a laugh at the Berahino thread.

Quickly saw a paragraph that made me chuckle

'In all seriousness though, if you're a West Brom fan and you honestly believe that West Brom fans don't see Stoke City as a rival, not geographically but in footballing terms and with plenty of animosity flowing BOTH ways, then you've been on the old showbiz sherbet yourself'


If there are any Stoke fans lurking, sorry to disappoint you but I think I speak on behalf of all of us when I say we care about/hate you as much as we do the likes Charlton or Wrexham.

Only feel sympathy for how desperate you are for us to hate you like you hate us.

We just don't though. Sorry about that.

I hate them more, but nothing to do with them being a rival. More like they're just a bunch of.....

Years of we always beat West brom was a big factor, nothing to do with where they're based at all
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: wba13 on February 10, 2017, 11:15:20 PM
The fire been started again Hughes states that Pulis sent Shawcross a voicemail calling him a loser. Whats wrong with HUGHES he ain`t alf a bad loser. TP also not happy with Hughes and Beras**t over saying they couldn`t understand why he wasn`t playing when they new full well he was suspended
               Bloody clayheads should crawl back under the rock they crawled out from.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on February 10, 2017, 11:18:13 PM
Are they worth worrying about?
Nah !
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: barnestormer on February 10, 2017, 11:32:50 PM
The fire been started again Hughes states that Pulis sent Shawcross a voicemail calling him a loser. Whats wrong with HUGHES he ain`t alf a bad loser. TP also not happy with Hughes and Beras**t over saying they couldn`t understand why he wasn`t playing when they new full well he was suspended
               Bloody clayheads should crawl back under the rock they crawled out from.
hughes and stoke deserve one another,hes as delusional as their club and supporters.history?dont make me laugh
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Standaman on February 11, 2017, 11:03:46 AM
In many ways are our closest rivals they are the club that most like us, in terms of resources. They also struggle with being unfashionable not enjoying the pull of London that give similar teams sized from the South e.g. Crystal Palace and Watford a leg up in the transfer market.

At the moment they don't have a meaningful local rivalry with Vale being even further away than even the Dingles and Vile from top flight football.

This has the potential being a new "derby" but it truth neither set of fans have much appetite for it. The current managers on the other hand seem well up for it, maybe the next time we play them a row of stewards might be needed between the two technical  areas :D 
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: KYA on February 11, 2017, 11:22:58 AM
Stoke are a nobody team and apart from a couple of years in the 70's have always been an uncompromising side ready to dish it out , they pretty much reflect the nature of the people from those parts.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: TheBrom on February 11, 2017, 12:00:35 PM
Stoke are a nobody team and apart from a couple of years in the 70's have always been an uncompromising side ready to dish it out , they pretty much reflect the nature of the people from those parts.

Totally agree. Rough area, rough fans, rough ground, rough team
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: wba13 on February 11, 2017, 10:37:50 PM
I think the real reason BIG GOB HUGHES is blaming everyone but  his Family for the fallout is he`s realised wev`e sold them a dud in Beras**t never got a kick today  ;) ;)
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: tommcneill on February 14, 2017, 04:07:32 PM
Ive just popped onto the oatcake again....have you seen the thread on the Shawcross voicemail  ;D

27 pages of people calling Pulis a c**t basically.

Lots of tears in Stoke, seems that irony is lost on them lot when they say Pulis cant get over his tenure at Stoke...27 pages says they havent either

Moaning about leaking a story and they leak this story to try and make Pulis look bad....

I dont think there is much intelligence up there duck

And as for Smethwick favela's have any of them been into Hanley etc....place is a right craphole its hardly Stoke-on-Sea is it
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: tommcneill on February 14, 2017, 04:09:26 PM
In many ways are our closest rivals they are the club that most like us, in terms of resources. They also struggle with being unfashionable not enjoying the pull of London that give similar teams sized from the South e.g. Crystal Palace and Watford a leg up in the transfer market.

At the moment they don't have a meaningful local rivalry with Vale being even further away than even the Dingles and Vile from top flight football.

This has the potential being a new "derby" but it truth neither set of fans have much appetite for it. The current managers on the other hand seem well up for it, maybe the next time we play them a row of stewards might be needed between the two technical  areas :D

Its as much a derby as Wrexham is or will ever be

They want a rivalry.......and are drumming up as much hatred as they can to get one! Problem is I couldnt care 2 bob about them...nothing club
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: baggie53 on February 14, 2017, 06:50:05 PM
Its as much a derby as Wrexham is or will ever be

They want a rivalry.......and are drumming up as much hatred as they can to get one! Problem is I couldnt care 2 bob about them...nothing club

I agree it will never be a derby against Stoke

It does beg the question though, if they are so unimportant, why do they have their own thread on here?
No other team except for our pals in Witton and Dingletown do.....................
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: SmethDan on February 14, 2017, 07:21:02 PM
Just making myself at home, hope you don't mind!!  :D

It was started by a Stokie in 2011...........
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: lewisant on February 14, 2017, 11:39:51 PM
Just had a look on this oatcake thing i've heard people mention to have a laugh at the Berahino thread.

Quickly saw a paragraph that made me chuckle

'In all seriousness though, if you're a West Brom fan and you honestly believe that West Brom fans don't see Stoke City as a rival, not geographically but in footballing terms and with plenty of animosity flowing BOTH ways, then you've been on the old showbiz sherbet yourself'


If there are any Stoke fans lurking, sorry to disappoint you but I think I speak on behalf of all of us when I say we care about/hate you as much as we do the likes Charlton or Wrexham.

Only feel sympathy for how desperate you are for us to hate you like you hate us.

We just don't though. Sorry about that.

Speak for yourself. I can't stand Stoke and I do see it as a rivalry and I have friends and family that do too. Only time I've seen real violence and hooliganism was between us and Stoke. I do kinda hate them though because they used to always beat us and it sucked!
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: swad35 on February 15, 2017, 02:48:29 AM
Rivals for some fans and not others.....fair enough. For me a nothing club and bar the Pulis connection and now fatty, which adds a bit of sauce to the games I couldn't really give a toss about them. I hate other clubs more and consider dogheads and vile our rivals. I have a soft spot for blues mainly because they hate vile.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: TheBrom on February 15, 2017, 06:11:34 AM
Don't they always beat West brom anyway?
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Jack Thrust on February 15, 2017, 10:33:29 AM
For my part I've never been that bothered about Stoke, if anything I liked having them in the prem as they're a well run club, no flashy moneybags owner just getting on with things. Much preferred them to the likes of West Ham, QPR and Palace. Obviously being our bogey team they were irritating because they really did used to always beat us!

Can't help but feel a combination of Hughes' whinging and refusing to take any responsibility for when things go wrong plus last seasons' "Stokelona" nonsense has pushed their delusion and arrogance levels to approaching that of Villa fans. Thank god they've never won a European cup!

Can't see it ever being a rivalry to match those with Villa and Wolves, and frankly I haven't got enough energy to hate those two clubs as much as they deserve let alone adding another one to the list!
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: wba13 on February 15, 2017, 10:46:49 AM
I think Stoke are only a hated club because of 1 man`s stupid ranting`s when Hughes leaves Stoke all the hatred will die down
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Fritzl Palace on February 15, 2017, 11:46:00 AM
I still don't hate them despite the fact they seem to be obsessed with us  :o

Said it in a previous post that they are like the chewing gum on the bottom of your shoe, an inconvenience but nothing to get overly concerned about. I just find their constant barbs at us to be quite petty really and the act of sore losers.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: wba13 on February 15, 2017, 01:09:29 PM
The clayheads think it`s there god given right to beat us and now that that has stopped happening there making out a local rivalry between us get rid of the clown Hughes and things will go back to normal until they realise if they ain`t already clown they bought from us is a complete dud ;D ;D
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: timdon on February 26, 2017, 06:07:45 PM
The clayheads think it`s there god given right to beat us and now that that has stopped happening there making out a local rivalry between us get rid of the clown Hughes and things will go back to normal until they realise if they ain`t already clown they bought from us is a complete dud ;D ;D
Re your last point, and whilst avoiding mentioning said dud by name, yes it does seem that some of the more observant Stoke fans are beginning to realise that he is a considerable distance from being the top class forward that they first believed.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: TheBrom on February 26, 2017, 08:03:41 PM
Good result for them today.. How's the new signing doing?
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: timdon on February 26, 2017, 08:38:23 PM
Good result for them today.. How's the new signing doing?
Very well, by all accounts. Three half hour run outs, and slightly less than that touches of the ball. A few comments on the Oatcake along the lines that only Stoke would pay up to £15 million for someone who hadnt scored for over a year, was just off the back of a drugs suspension, whose career was in crisis, who couldnt head a ball, whose work rate was poor, and who would be a free agent come May. Mmmm, seems only a few weeks ago that they were lording it over us with rants about how bitter we all were, and how he was going to be a superstar for them. Still, early days I suppose, their disillusionment has a long way to go yet.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: The Black Pearl on February 26, 2017, 08:47:42 PM
Starting to be questioned as to why he was signed on the Oatcake. :)
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: BoingFlyer on February 26, 2017, 09:37:21 PM
Starting to be questioned as to why he was signed on the Oatcake. :)

Just took a look they are not happy are they!
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on February 26, 2017, 09:51:45 PM
I hope he turns into a big massive dud.

Still - Saido will make enough money to live a comfortable life.

Football as ever will be rewarding petulance.

As for Stoke - they have no baring on my life but it's always good to see them lose.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: ian66 on March 08, 2017, 07:19:56 PM
Berahino gets his first start tonight.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: BB74 on March 08, 2017, 09:53:16 PM
Berahino gets his first start tonight.

And got subbed for Whelan. How did he play? I'd like a genuine neutral report if possible please putting aside any bitterness  ;D
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Topman on March 08, 2017, 09:55:30 PM
And got subbed for Whelan. How did he play? I'd like a genuine neutral report if possible please putting aside any bitterness  >:(

Better if honest. Looked a little sharper but had no real supply. Still something there I believe but it's up to him now.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: caravanc58 on March 08, 2017, 10:00:38 PM
And got subbed for Whelan. How did he play? I'd like a genuine neutral report if possible please putting aside any bitterness  >:(
The fat bugger shaved his head to get his weight down.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: wba13 on March 09, 2017, 09:19:35 AM
Seemed up for it did OK
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Aixelsyd on March 30, 2017, 10:43:19 PM
Fatboy claiming his drink was spiked........ diddums  :'(


http://www.stokesentinel.co.uk/stoke-city-star-saido-berahino-my-drink-was-spiked/story-30239819-detail/story.html

Stoke City star Saido Berahino - my drink was spiked
By Martin_Spinks  |  Posted: March 30, 2017

Saido Berahino has sensationally claimed for the first time that he failed a drug test last year because he believes his drink was spiked.

Berahino has pleaded his innocence for the first time after frequently suggesting previously that few knew the real truth.

His claims come in a BBC TV interview to be screened in full in Saturday lunchtime's edition of Football Focus and will come as Berahino is preparing for what could be his third start for Stoke at Leicester.

Berahino, who ended his miserable time at West Brom by joining Stoke for £12m in January, was banned last Autumn after a routine test discovered he had taken recreational drugs

But now he says: "To get banned for something you really haven't done is hard to take.

"I was depressed. Going from loving to hating the place that made you is hard.

"It was hard for me for about 18 months at West Brom. I just wanted to get out of the club - a fresh start - it just wasn;t working for me."



Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: liverbaggie on March 30, 2017, 11:26:45 PM
Please,no more,time to cancel this thread please.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Baggie-Dave on March 30, 2017, 11:32:58 PM
Wasn't sure where to post this as I know he's no longer our problem but he seems to be determined to moan about our club, after all we did for him:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/39450446
What a Prat!!!
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: skyclad99 on March 30, 2017, 11:35:54 PM
What a knob

Never his fault.......

Good riddance to him.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: barnestormer on March 30, 2017, 11:38:23 PM
ALWAYS someone elses fault with him,if he needs to find the culprit he only needs look in the mirror
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Baggie-Dave on March 31, 2017, 12:30:25 AM
'I hated the place that made me'

A quote from the article. Makes me wonder why he could say that. What did we do wrong? Perhaps his mum could answer that!
Yes, the Spurs thing; will always be an issue but we, as a club, did we do anything wrong over that deal?
We'll probably never know.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Uncle Peter on March 31, 2017, 01:05:51 AM
I really do hope the club put out a response which is reserved enough not to have a go back. But worded in a way which makes everyone questions his honesty and integrity.

I think it's plain for all to see that we did support him over the years. Maybe not to the level he thinks he should have been supported but we all know he's not one of life's great minds.

I feel for him, I'd love to fast forward a couple of years see how it pans out for him at Stoke, what lines he will be trotting out then.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: skyclad99 on March 31, 2017, 01:07:26 AM
I really do hope the club put out a response which is reserved enough not to have a go back. But worded in a way which makes everyone questions his honesty and integrity.

I think it's plain for all to see that we did support him over the years. Maybe not to the level he thinks he should have been supported but we all know he's not one of life's great minds.

I feel for him, I'd love to fast forward a couple of years see how it pans out for him at Stoke, what lines he will be trotting out then.

or snorting.........
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WoysWunderful on March 31, 2017, 01:09:27 AM
We still dont know what happened behind the scenes though do we?

For him to still be talking about it, imo shows that theres definatley something we dont know.

Also the actual quote is "I was depressed. Going from loving to hating the place that made you is hard"

Nothing like a bit of context
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: howard62baby on March 31, 2017, 01:22:43 AM
Not our problem any more , HIS C0MMENTS SHOULD BE CONSIGNED TO THE BIN .
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: SirTonyM on March 31, 2017, 01:57:45 AM
I can see why he is so upset. He had no previous with the club and was a poster boy for innocence, integrity and honesty up to that point ;)
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: skyclad99 on March 31, 2017, 02:10:50 AM
I am impressed so many people are still up....

The facts are simple. He was a promising lad, we took him on, he come good, we wanted him and he delivered. We loved him. Then he believed his agent and want to move, but it all went south and we were in the wrong..........

Had Tottingham paid the money he was theirs, but no...the chairman was an arsehole......

What an absolute knob......
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: chipperclark on March 31, 2017, 05:14:50 AM
 >:( I feel sorry for Side-Low or whatever his name is??? He has bagged the Club that helped him become a professional footballer at the "highest level"
He has "self-destructed" not TP,fans or Albion representatives, but himself.
So he was forced to take Helium??? Please?? and someone "spiked" his drink??? The world is against him???

The Spurs saga occured because the deal proposed by Spurs was ridiculous. Something like 5 mill down payment and 500k a year for 10 years?? I am lead to believe?
Correct me if I am wrong.

The funny thing is Stoke realise they have made a "big" mistake in signing him?....looking forward to seeing him playing for Exeter or Plymouth in the short term
(and no disrespect to these Clubs) then who knows where??

Good luck mate you are going to need it. ;) ;)
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: The Black Pearl on March 31, 2017, 05:40:57 AM
I saw this yesterday but could not be bothered to post it, as said, never his fault.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: baggies_24 on March 31, 2017, 06:18:40 AM
Was driving pished up at 110 down the M6 someone else's fault? Also someone else's fault he was caught using laughing gass too I expect. I think the club should release his failed drugs test, I bet that would paint a different picture.

Maybe Saido should focus on scoring his first goal in 21 games and not looking like an overweight league 2 striker.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Uncle Peter on March 31, 2017, 06:19:57 AM
Quote
We still dont know what happened behind the scenes though do we?

I disagree, there have been a few instances where he's done silly things, NO, drink driving conviction etc. have the club ever come out with anything other than support for him?

I know for a fact the club tried to mentor him, but his 'advisors' refused the support. There're too many hangers on with SB, too many people who're looking at him as a cash cow. These people think he should be earning megabucks, something he's not going to earn at WBA unfortunately.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: albion59 on March 31, 2017, 07:44:21 AM
Not another topic about him! Ffs
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBAinDEVON on March 31, 2017, 08:09:12 AM
keep the stoke thread but dont talk about the pot bellied toss pot
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: skyclad99 on March 31, 2017, 08:41:08 AM
A quote from the interview;

To be banned for something you really haven't done is hard to take," the 23-year-old told BBC's Football Focus.

To go on strike, not put a shift in and become overweight is hard to take for the Albion fans mate!.

I seriously hope he fails.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: kirk on March 31, 2017, 09:21:21 AM
My drink was spiked, someone spiked my air with laughing gas, my water was spiked by alcohol when I was driving and  someone fed me mad cow disease burgers which is why I am and always will be a tool
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: darbolina on March 31, 2017, 09:30:56 AM
For his own sake doesn't understand he just needs to shut up and try to play football. He's completely disrespected this club over the past few years let alone with this latest attempt to seek the limelight. He's got lots of previous form which everyone with half a brain (Saido....hmmm) is aware of - even going back to Brentford, Peterborough and Roy Hodgson's days.  He's just making himself look even more silly to anyone that has taken the time to understand his background at a few football clubs - here and on loan.

Sadly, people aren't talking about what a great deal we got for an overweight, under-motivated, under-performing player who has hardly scored a goal in two years after going on strike and they're still giving him air time to spout rubbish about how hard done by he's been.

Well done Albion (again) for getting this poisonous, immature, attention seeking ego-maniac out of our club. He's now someone else's problem thankfully.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: skyclad99 on March 31, 2017, 09:39:16 AM
For his own sake doesn't understand he just needs to shut up and try to play football. He's completely disrespected this club over the past few years let alone with this latest attempt to seek the limelight. He's got lots of previous form which everyone with half a brain (Saido....hmmm) is aware of - even going back to Brentford, Peterborough and Roy Hodgson's days.  He's just making himself look even more silly to anyone that has taken the time to understand his background at a few football clubs - here and on loan.

Sadly, people aren't talking about what a great deal we got for an overweight, under-motivated, under-performing player who has hardly scored a goal in two years after going on strike and they're still giving him air time to spout rubbish about how hard done by he's been.

Well done Albion (again) for getting this poisonous, immature, attention seeking ego-maniac out of our club. He's now someone else's problem thankfully.

You are right on that score, Stoke were well and truly mugged......
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Albionic on March 31, 2017, 09:47:02 AM
Stoke starting to be exposed to his love of the media, he's running true to form at least.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: LoxleyBaggie on March 31, 2017, 11:44:10 AM
I'd like to take this opportunity to thank Saido for reminding us all what a professional Jake Livermore is. Own up to your errors, draw a line under your past and focus on how you can come back from the experience for your own benefit, the benefit of you new club and people who may be facing similar problems.

As for Saido then he presumably has a West Midlands Police crime number to back up his story, unless it is 1) made up 2) he is protecting someone who has engaged in a criminal act. Also the PFA are usually a little vocal where they think a player has been aggrieved.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: VVVAlbion on April 01, 2017, 06:37:07 AM
It's amusing how fickle and defensive of their football club supporters are. Had we been aware of the ban when it occurred and our club immediately put out a statement or Berahino said, which amounts to much the same thing, he was "spiked", no doubt most would have defended/accepted it (as I imagine Stoke fans are now) James Maclean being a similar case in point. How many attitudes have changed since he became an Albion player?  Roman Bednar another fine example.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: tuamigos on April 01, 2017, 10:04:21 AM
Classic,
'my mom told me not to sign a new contract wiv them innit'

Twerp!!
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: TheBrom on April 01, 2017, 10:08:12 AM
I'm not sure why he'd bring it up again anyway. People were starting to forget about it and he's put it right out there again
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: costa blanca baggie on April 01, 2017, 10:19:42 AM
I'm not sure why he'd bring it up again anyway. People were starting to forget about it and he's put it right out there again
It's the only way he can make the Headlines at the moment. Maybe he believes in the saying, 'no such thing as a bad press'.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: TheBrom on April 01, 2017, 12:12:53 PM
It's the only way he can make the Headlines at the moment. Maybe he believes in the saying, 'no such thing as a bad press'.

Possibly. It's poorly advised anyway. As a lot have mentioned it's got the Stoke fans (who were torn anyway about him) talking about him for all the wrong reasons again and heaped more pressure on him to perform on the pitch
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: timdon on April 01, 2017, 05:46:23 PM
keep the stoke thread but dont talk about the pot bellied toss pot
Stop being so selfish. Some of us like talking about/reading about/laughing about the pot bellied toss pot  :D :D
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: TheBrom on April 01, 2017, 07:14:46 PM
Good result for them again today  :-\
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: tuamigos on April 03, 2017, 08:41:40 AM
El fatty didn't complete 90 minutes again either
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: smosher34 on April 03, 2017, 08:01:29 PM
That wasn't sadio ,s fault Mark Hughes substituted him  ;)
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: gerry m on April 03, 2017, 08:17:39 PM
El fatty didn't complete 90 minutes again either

Probably someone spiked his half time cuppa ;D
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Albionic on April 03, 2017, 09:10:03 PM
That wasn't sadio ,s fault Mark Hughes substituted him  ;)


Not Hughesys fault, Mommy Saido called him in for his tea !
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: elmo_in_swansea on April 04, 2017, 10:26:50 PM
Stokes new corner routine! https://twitter.com/FootballCliches/status/849352508766081024
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: BigFrank20 on April 05, 2017, 10:58:56 AM
Looks like his water was spiked this time

http://www.expressandstar.com/news/2017/04/05/saido-berahino-foundation-mystery-over-ex-west-brom-stars-charity-fund/

Problems and trouble just follow him around like a bad fart!  :o
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: skyclad99 on April 05, 2017, 11:03:35 AM
Looks like his water was spiked this time

http://www.expressandstar.com/news/2017/04/05/saido-berahino-foundation-mystery-over-ex-west-brom-stars-charity-fund/

Problems and trouble just follow him around like a bad fart!  :o

Interesting.

Of course Hughes will have known about this, just like the spiked drink and the ban........
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBAinDEVON on April 05, 2017, 11:07:28 AM
http://oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/266948/sacrificing-season-berahino

they call him fat and lazy too

Laugh out loud
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: skyclad99 on April 05, 2017, 11:11:11 AM
http://oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/266948/sacrificing-season-berahino

they call him fat and lazy too

Laugh out loud

Damn, they have twigged!

Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBAinDEVON on April 05, 2017, 11:14:01 AM
trying to play to his strengths = their bad run
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Baggy nerd on April 05, 2017, 11:33:34 AM
Maybe they will try to return him as damaged goods if they have kept the receipt. Unfortunately we only accept returns for 28 days.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: TheBrom on April 05, 2017, 11:37:20 AM
Bet he was sold as seen
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: timdon on April 05, 2017, 10:28:25 PM
Damn, they have twigged!
Five and a half year contract at 70k a week plus signing on fee and bonuses works out about £25 million plus the £15 million to us equals about £40 million invested. A few weeks in and he has already embarrassed himself with his drug ban explanation, now his trust being investigated, no goals, still as fat as ever and the fans getting restless.
All is rosy in the garden at the moment
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Jeremy Roland Peace on April 06, 2017, 08:50:44 AM
as was pointed out on the oatcake he was out of control with us on 15k a week, what's he going to be like now he's on 70k
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: skyclad99 on April 06, 2017, 09:09:49 AM
as was pointed out on the oatcake he was out of control with us on 15k a week, what's he going to be like now he's on 70k

I think we will all find out soon enough...... :)
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Standaman on April 08, 2017, 09:57:21 AM
They're not very happy on the Oatcake at the minute are they?

I had to smile when one of the more insightful posters suggested that playing Berahino as a lone striker and have Shawcross twating balls at him from 30 yards might not be the smartest tactic. Yes, been there got the tee shirt and that was when he was fit and firing even dumber now when he is out of shape and out of sorts. But then I thought Stoke had morphed into Barca on Trent so not sure what's going on up there.

The Sparky revolution seems to be running out of steam and unfortunately for Saido he seems to be the lightening rod for the fan's growing discontent. Oh well never mind.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: AlbionBest on April 09, 2017, 11:02:07 PM
Berahino scored yet ? Thought not.....
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: FallOutBoy on April 10, 2017, 12:51:06 PM
But then I thought Stoke had morphed into Barca on Trent so not sure what's going on up there.

The Sparky revolution seems to be running out of steam and unfortunately for Saido he seems to be the lightening rod for the fan's growing discontent. Oh well never mind.

They've had a fair few injuries (Shaquiri just back, Afellay missing), and the Imbula and Bony signings haven't quite worked out, so I think they've gone a bit backward this season. I think a couple of decent signings and they'll be back above us next season.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: AshD on April 10, 2017, 01:09:55 PM
They've had a fair few injuries (Shaquiri just back, Afellay missing), and the Imbula and Bony signings haven't quite worked out, so I think they've gone a bit backward this season. I think a couple of decent signings and they'll be back above us next season.

What if we make a couple of decent signings???
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: skyclad99 on April 10, 2017, 01:24:56 PM
They've had a fair few injuries (Shaquiri just back, Afellay missing), and the Imbula and Bony signings haven't quite worked out, so I think they've gone a bit backward this season. I think a couple of decent signings and they'll be back above us next season.

That's assuming they have someone in charge who is capable of making a couple of decent signings. Not sure Hughes is the right man, and even with the players mentioned I am not sure they are much of a team at the moment. Oatcake is a good example of fans fighting amongst themselves.... long may it continue.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Hunnington Baggie on April 10, 2017, 01:36:58 PM
What if we make a couple of decent signings???
11th-13th
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: FallOutBoy on April 11, 2017, 01:04:51 PM
What if we make a couple of decent signings???

We need more than a couple, otherwise we'll go backwards.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBArgo on April 12, 2017, 09:15:35 AM
That's assuming they have someone in charge who is capable of making a couple of decent signings. Not sure Hughes is the right man, and even with the players mentioned I am not sure they are much of a team at the moment. Oatcake is a good example of fans fighting amongst themselves.... long may it continue.

I think Hughes did well in the earlier years at Stoke when he mixed a few of his own signings with the solid underbelly that Pulis left. Pulis left behind a machine which needed a bit of creativity. Players like Shawcross, Whelan and Walters acted as a great spine and are still regulars today, albeit they have now aged and some of the other players have since moved on.

Hughes did well to add players like Arnautovic and Shaqiri but I don't think he is capable of buying more defensive, less flashy signings. I suppose you could argue the opposite for Pulis. But I think the Hughes era has been declining for a while as the Pulis players either age or start to drop off, the balance isn't what it was and I imagine Berahino will be the tipping point.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: TheBrom on April 15, 2017, 04:19:03 PM
Stoke fans booing the substitution of Berahino, who now hasn't scored in 26 premier league games
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: gerry m on April 15, 2017, 04:59:57 PM
Stoke fans booing the substitution of Berahino, who now hasn't scored in 26 premier league games

Substituted again!.His replacement(Crouch) scored.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: TheBrom on April 15, 2017, 06:32:01 PM
Substituted again!.His replacement(Crouch) scored.

Yeah the irony of the fans booing the change, then the replacement scoring within 10 mins or so!
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on April 26, 2017, 07:35:02 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/39510588

Saido Berahino's foundation failed to pass on funds raised at a 2015 event for WaterAid, the charity claims.
2015....A while ago, but should have been paid by now.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: SmethDan on April 26, 2017, 08:14:38 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/39510588

Saido Berahino's foundation failed to pass on funds raised at a 2015 event for WaterAid, the charity claims.
2015....A while ago, but should have been paid by now.

This was covered at the time from memory.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on April 26, 2017, 08:17:28 PM
This was covered at the time from memory.

Oops...Just saw it on the BBC web site.
sorry.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: koren on May 01, 2017, 09:57:26 AM
Pete O'Rourke‏ @SportsPeteO  25 minutes ago

Stoke striker Saido Berahino has vowed to cut short his summer holiday while admitting his weight is down to family genes.

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: fatboy_coach on May 01, 2017, 11:36:07 AM
Pete O'Rourke‏ @SportsPeteO  25 minutes ago

Stoke striker Saido Berahino has vowed to cut short his summer holiday while admitting his weight is down to family genes.

 ;D ;D ;D

I know it's the Daily Fail but it is quality! - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/article-4461038/Stoke-striker-Saido-Berahino-Im-fat-genes.html

I wonder if he'll ever say "do you know what, it's me and it's my fault"  :o
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: SmethDan on May 01, 2017, 12:08:17 PM
I'm sure mommy will be delighted to read her derrière is the root/booty of his current demise.

Classy guy or talking out of his backside?

Hmmmmmm, toughie.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: elmo_in_swansea on May 13, 2017, 10:03:55 PM
I know we've had a few ups & downs this season but just got to laugh at the Oatcake!
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBArgo on May 13, 2017, 11:41:25 PM
I know it's the Daily Fail but it is quality! - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/article-4461038/Stoke-striker-Saido-Berahino-Im-fat-genes.html

I wonder if he'll ever say "do you know what, it's me and it's my fault"  :o

Never.

Funnily enough I think Stoke would have finished above us without Berahino, he really de-railed their season. Fantastic  ;D
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: tommcneill on May 14, 2017, 09:37:52 AM
Its funny because on the oatcake they were saying he would score a shed load of goals as they create tons of chances for their strikers

It hasn't happened I think they have bought a dud

Thank you
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: ComebackStrodds on May 14, 2017, 12:26:18 PM
It's always someone else's fault with that little word removed.
He needs to stop eating his moms jerk chicken when he doesn't get picked and start taking responsibilities for his own actions.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBAinDEVON on June 12, 2017, 04:03:40 PM
shes obviously after his money
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on July 17, 2017, 06:34:12 PM
For the 5th season in a row, Stoke City have confirmed that they will provide free coach travel to every PL away game this season.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Jimmy on July 18, 2017, 03:23:44 PM
Very good of them.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBAinDEVON on July 21, 2017, 09:24:20 AM
Big ass scored I hear. Will the floodgates now open for him.Back in England squad for Russia , if they get there that is
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: kie the baggie on July 21, 2017, 10:27:35 AM
Big ass scored I hear. Back in England squad for Russia , if they get there that is
No chance
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Hull Baggie on July 21, 2017, 11:10:11 AM
Big ass scored I hear. Back in England squad for Russia , if they get there that is

a tap in from about 6 yards to open the scoring against Monaco (they eventually lost 4-2), taken him 6 months to score his first goal for them!
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Legend on July 21, 2017, 12:06:25 PM
Got a feeling Berahino is going to bang the goals in this season.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Morany on July 21, 2017, 12:15:13 PM
Got a feeling Berahino is going to bang the goals in this season.

He probably will, he's talented
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: SmethDan on July 21, 2017, 12:29:38 PM
Agreed, he's always had the talent.

Looking leaner these days too.

That said I always thought the fat jibes when he was with us were 'grossly' over exaggerated.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: tommcneill on July 21, 2017, 12:34:18 PM
If he can get back to his best we know he can score goals.....thats not even up for debate

It wasnt working here for him due to his own issues

Good luck to him but I dont regret selling him in the slightest as he had to go
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Albionic on July 21, 2017, 12:59:07 PM
If they can get him sorted out, he could do well. Unfortunately I suspect any improvement will be short lived as he clearly is easily influenced by his cronies and will be getting into "mischief" before long.

If Mark Hughes can manage the lad, he will deserve to reap the rewards.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: TheBrom on July 22, 2017, 01:55:48 AM
Still think crouch will score more than him
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Legend on August 12, 2017, 09:15:18 PM
How's Saido doing for these then?  :-X

Just checked, they ain't happy!

http://oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/270663/berahino (http://oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/270663/berahino)
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Astle1968 on August 12, 2017, 09:47:11 PM
How's Saido doing for these then?  :-X

Just checked, they ain't happy!

http://oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/270663/berahino (http://oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/270663/berahino)

Probably not the most popular view but I can't help feeling a bit sorry for him.

No doubt at all the blokes and absolute idiot and hasn't helped himself at all, but he's also been poorly advised and has gone in 2 years from potential CF for England and 15 goals PL striker to an absolute laughing stock whose overweight, had a drugs ban and looks like he will never score again.

You do wonder (and I'm sure he does) what would have happened if he did get the Spurs move and I do have some sympathy with him here. He will almost certainly never play at that level now and if anything will be doing well to be playing PL football this time next season.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: adamw1109 on August 12, 2017, 11:08:15 PM
They have took a striker who wasn't scoring for us, from us.... and an OAP midfielder who is way past what he once was, that can only get worse from us....

And people on here complain about our transfer dealings  :o

Brilliant work Mr Hughes.  ;)
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: smosher34 on August 13, 2017, 08:11:46 AM
I can see matk hughes being the 1st one to get the bulit this season .
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: skyclad99 on August 13, 2017, 08:20:24 AM
How's Saido doing for these then?  :-X

Just checked, they ain't happy!

http://oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/270663/berahino (http://oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/270663/berahino)

It took 14 PL games to work that one out - funny!

No sympathy from me at all. A good bit of business by our club methinks.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: mank baggie on August 13, 2017, 08:32:43 AM
Glad it's all gone pear shaped for fatty he was to big for little West Brom hope he's playing for stourport swifts in the not to distant future.

If we went down he'd be all over twitter taking the pi££
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: BB74 on August 13, 2017, 09:07:55 AM
I'd bet he's still waltzing round the place like billy big balls.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBAinDEVON on August 13, 2017, 11:05:38 AM
His he looking like he's stopped eating pies and oatcakes
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Norfolk Baggie on August 13, 2017, 05:49:40 PM
Saido is still a very young man, and young folks make mistakes.  Wish him all the best.  Probably the most talented player we have developed in fifteen years.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: smosher34 on August 13, 2017, 09:05:11 PM
You watch him get 1st goal against us sunday week 😦
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: PsalmXXIII on August 13, 2017, 10:03:54 PM
You watch him get 1st goal against us sunday week 😦

People said that two weeks after we sold him. Worst player on the pitch then and will be the worst again. Hegazi to murder him 30 seconds after he comes on.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: swabey on August 16, 2017, 05:34:13 PM
They have took a striker who wasn't scoring for us, from us.... and an OAP midfielder who is way past what he once was, that can only get worse from us....

And people on here complain about our transfer dealings  :o

Brilliant work Mr Hughes.  ;)

Berahino has looked totally lost pre season and v Everton. We just hope Jese and Moting will now give him the service he needs.

Fletcher however has been outstanding. MOM V Everton and excellent in all the friendlies. Maybe he needed a change of scenery and a manager giving him the ok to push forward.

Just hope his legs last the season.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBAinDEVON on August 22, 2017, 03:08:18 PM
is he their new lean mean goal scoring machine
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Adder on August 22, 2017, 06:51:16 PM
Thought Berahino did pretty well on Saturday after he came on for Shaqiri....did well on the assist and with one or two other bits of play.... Hope he's not peaking at the wrong time.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBAinDEVON on August 24, 2017, 03:48:16 PM
I have been going to W Brom for years but our last visit finished me off and not going again.

Sold out and squeezed into the ground like sardines at £30 per head. The rest of the ground far from full sitting in comfort on reduced prices less than us.

Agresive stewards.

Loads of inebriated up Stokies who could not be bothered to go to their seats(I know about not sitting) who just stood stood in the aisles and on the stairways so that MANY OTHERS could not see

The bile and skulduggery of an ex manager and his new club which created an agresive atmosphere .

W Brom used to be a club and near neighbour that I respected, but not any more. I hope you enjoy and we stuff them but I won't be there

Read more: http://oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/271134/wba-sold-out#ixzz4qgTRDSVy
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Albionic on August 24, 2017, 04:28:52 PM
thanks for that, cheered me up no end that has,
I hate Stoke the club, I hate Stoke fans, i hate Berahino, i hate mark hughes, I don't hate Fletch  i hope we stuff em and the oatcake implodes.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: ronnie_allen on August 24, 2017, 05:22:11 PM
Have a feeling that when he says "W Brom used to be a club and near neighbour that I respected, but not any more";  I have a feeling that is mainly down to us starting to get the upper hand after decades of them being our bogey side.

It's always easier to like teams you regularly beat, well except the Wolves. 
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: mank baggie on August 24, 2017, 05:30:12 PM
I have been going to W Brom for years but our last visit finished me off and not going again.

Sold out and squeezed into the ground like sardines at £30 per head. The rest of the ground far from full sitting in comfort on reduced prices less than us.

Agresive stewards.

Loads of inebriated up Stokies who could not be bothered to go to their seats(I know about not sitting) who just stood stood in the aisles and on the stairways so that MANY OTHERS could not see

The bile and skulduggery of an ex manager and his new club which created an agresive atmosphere .

W Brom used to be a club and near neighbour that I respected, but not any more. I hope you enjoy and we stuff them but I won't be there

Read more: http://oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/271134/wba-sold-out#ixzz4qgTRDSVy
What they mean to say is they're of to Manchester for the big weekend
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: TheBrom on August 24, 2017, 09:33:26 PM
Have a feeling that when he says "W Brom used to be a club and near neighbour that I respected, but not any more";  I have a feeling that is mainly down to us starting to get the upper hand after decades of them being our bogey side.

It's always easier to like teams you regularly beat, well except the Wolves.

Think that's exactly it
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: timdon on September 19, 2017, 10:45:15 PM
They are furious on the Oatcake tonight. Berahino has been written off by most of them, and Wimmer is getting a right slagging, been dreadful apparently. Might have dodged a bullet on that one, or was our interest just a ploy to get Stoke to waste more money  ;D
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: KYA on September 30, 2017, 03:51:02 PM
Bambino missed a pen  :D.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Hunnington Baggie on September 30, 2017, 04:47:43 PM
Bambino missed a pen  :D.
berahino has missed 4 penalties since he lasted scored a goal. 3 saved and 1 off target.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: liverbaggie on October 01, 2017, 01:30:35 PM
I think he won't be a premier league player for too much longer,he'll drop down the leagues slowly,he's totally wasted what talent he had,its all in his head,he's not mentally tough enough.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: barnestormer on October 01, 2017, 11:15:23 PM
I think he won't be a premier league player for too much longer,he'll drop down the leagues slowly,he's totally wasted what talent he had,its all in his head,he's not mentally tough enough.
couldn't happen to a nicer guy ;D
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: gerry m on October 02, 2017, 06:03:03 AM
I think he won't be a premier league player for too much longer,he'll drop down the leagues slowly,he's totally wasted what talent he had,its all in his head,he's not mentally tough enough.

When he was on loan at the lower league clubs he seemed to have a 'Billy big time' attitude. His main problem is he is not as good as he thinks he is.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: skyclad99 on October 02, 2017, 06:48:06 AM
When he was on loan at the lower league clubs he seemed to have a 'Billy big time' attitude. His main problem is he is not as good as he thinks he is.

He had a brief period of about 6 months when he could do no wrong. At one time he played alongside Kane in the England U21 set up. How fortunes change eh?
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Legend on October 02, 2017, 08:27:38 AM
Remember when we used to debate if Berahino was better than Kane?  ;D
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBAinDEVON on October 02, 2017, 08:56:01 AM
Remember when we used to debate if Berahino was better than Kane?  ;D


and now the debate is he better than Rondon
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Legend on October 02, 2017, 09:38:34 AM

and now the debate is he better than Rondon

No chance but is he better than Robson Kanu?  ;)
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Fritzl Palace on October 02, 2017, 09:54:29 AM
I find it absolutely hilarious what is happening to the lad. I imagine he will get one more Premier League move to a newly promoted Premier League club at the end of the season before tumbling down the leagues. For his sake, I hope he is investing well currently because the big money will cease soon enough for him. Can have no sympathy for someone with such a stinking attitude, has completely wasted all the promise that he had 4 years ago when he burst onto the scene.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: skyclad99 on October 02, 2017, 10:58:56 AM
and on that very subject...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/41456051


Very amusing - three different England managers!!  ;D
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: johnny Cash on October 02, 2017, 11:25:21 AM
and on that very subject...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/41456051

Very amusing - three different England managers!!  ;D

Remember when Berahino was a better prospect than Kane  :-X


Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: FallOutBoy on October 02, 2017, 12:49:12 PM
It's a good job nobody on here holds a grudge eh?  ;)
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: MarkW on October 02, 2017, 12:51:49 PM
They aren't very happy with Kevin Wimmer. Reckon he's a bit of a dud and Hughes has wasted too much money on him
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: skyclad99 on October 02, 2017, 01:30:59 PM
It's a good job nobody on here holds a grudge eh?  ;)

Nothing to do with a grudge FOB. When you watch a promising young talent come through the academy, break into the first team, hear his name sung from the terraces it makes you proud. Then you see the spoilt little brat believe his agent, throw his toys out the cot because he cannot have what he wants, turn into lardyboy and eventually sign for another club for big money and fail to score, you cannot help but feel smug........
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: skyclad99 on October 02, 2017, 01:34:22 PM
They aren't very happy with Kevin Wimmer. Reckon he's a bit of a dud and Hughes has wasted too much money on him

I read somewhere that Hughes said the grass was too long for him!

We really dodged one there.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: gerry m on October 02, 2017, 02:27:26 PM
The stats for Berahino dont make good reading (For him that is)

1,908 minutes,583 days, 38 shots, 30 Premier League games since he scored.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: east-stand-nick on October 02, 2017, 04:42:40 PM
£12m hahahahaha
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: wappingbaggie on November 26, 2017, 11:40:13 PM
SB finished at Stoke?

gone from occasionally used sub to never used sub to not even on Subs bench yesterday.

also saw them linked with a new striker signing.

next stop bolton - to repeat the cycle
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: barnestormer on November 26, 2017, 11:56:58 PM
SB finished at Stoke?

gone from occasionally used sub to never used sub to not even on Subs bench yesterday.

also saw them linked with a new striker signing.

next stop bolton - to repeat the cycle
we have done a few muggins in the past,curtis being in the forefront of my memory banks but Saido is well up there along side him,sadly hes made for life on that contract he signed at stoke while the rest of us will have to work a lifetime and never get near to the riches paid out to him for being over hyped and over paid.walsall here he comes in the next 2/3 years
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Albionic on November 27, 2017, 01:33:23 PM
I think he will end up abroad, possibly far east, he is tainted goods now !
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Jordie1471 on November 27, 2017, 01:56:33 PM
Can see Saido Chubbyhino being loaned out to a mid table championship club in January, like a Nottingham Forest. 

Achieve average level success and then move to them in the summer.

Finding his correct level. Just thankful that the media hyped him up after he knocked in some penalties for us enabling us to get so much $ for him.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: tommcneill on November 27, 2017, 02:07:29 PM
I find it a shame really, no sympathy for him but he was a talent and I find it saddening to see a player goto waste

I said at the time he left that after a season or 2 he will drop down the leagues

He doesn’t have the right mentality he’s a bill big boots
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBAinDEVON on November 27, 2017, 02:10:34 PM
was he the ex player who liked the sacking of pulis :D
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: BB74 on December 08, 2017, 05:27:35 AM
From the Oatcake.

 ;D

I don’t know why some fans are so obsessed with seeing Berahino on the pitch. The guy is a stain on our club. Zero work rate and zero quality when he does get the ball. Totally ineffective when he’s been on the pitch and frankly he’s taken the piss out of the club since being here.

We need to cut our losses and ship him out in January. Never want to see him on the pitch for us again.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: baggies_24 on December 08, 2017, 07:06:18 AM
I think the story of Kane & Berahino is a very good life lesson for any young footballer aspiring to make it. Both came through roughly the same time and in terms of raw talent Saido at the time was certainly as good as Kane. Just goes to show raw talent alone means diddly squat if you don't have the right attitude & drive which is why Kane is one of the best strikers in the world & Saido can't make the bench for a struggling Stoke team.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Fritzl Palace on December 08, 2017, 09:26:05 AM
I find it absolutely hilarious that he has been there for nigh on a year now and still hasn't scored for them  ;D

Best piece of business we will do in some years, that.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: caravanc58 on December 08, 2017, 05:01:44 PM
Thought it was a bit far fetched when posters were saying he'll be playing for Walsall in a few years,now I'm not so sure.such a waste really when he could have been a good player but ruined by both himself and his advisors.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Standaman on December 16, 2017, 07:15:22 PM
Had a quick look at the Oatcake tonight not happy bunnies want Hughes out and a few posters want Pulis back in a a sort of "it has come to this" way although there is very obvious and belligerent resistance from the bulk of posters to going back to TP.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Galahad on December 16, 2017, 07:25:34 PM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2017/12/14/saido-berahino-holds-talks-stoke-board-lack-first-team-opportunities/

 ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Pie on December 16, 2017, 09:48:03 PM
Bet they sack Hughes, get somebody in and end up having the 'new manager effect' vs us next weekend.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: BigFrank20 on December 30, 2017, 04:07:59 PM
Not too impressed with their elderly and 'leggy' midfielder  :P
http://oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/274832/fletcher-worst-premiership-midfielder
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: caravanc58 on December 30, 2017, 04:32:30 PM
Not too impressed with their elderly and 'leggy' midfielder  :P
http://oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/274832/fletcher-worst-premiership-midfielder
Watching this game,Saido gets a rare start but he hasn't touched the ball neither has any of his teammates to be fair.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Scooby Doo on December 30, 2017, 04:49:44 PM
Hughes has nailed his own coffin today.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: TheJacko2000 on December 30, 2017, 05:10:43 PM
Clearly sacrificed the game with Newcastle to come midweek.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Jeremy Roland Peace on January 06, 2018, 07:32:26 PM
Berahino was getting destroyed on BT Sport today by Sherwood and Saunders.

Saunders even saying he’d spoken with his agent who had admitted that he was overweight because he wasn’t playing football.
Shows how much Berahino cares that he can’t even keep himself in half decent shape because he’s too busy sulking.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on January 06, 2018, 07:33:39 PM
Berahino-ho-ho?
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: gavinrussell on January 06, 2018, 08:12:38 PM
Hughes has just been sacked...
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: caravanc58 on January 06, 2018, 08:17:19 PM
Never rated Hughes as a manager, he worse than Wenger when interviewed
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Hong Kong Phooey on January 06, 2018, 08:25:51 PM
It has just got Grimmer for Sparky... :P
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Hong Kong Phooey on January 06, 2018, 08:35:01 PM
They don’t want Hughes, they didn’t want Pulis... ::)
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Smooth Lad on January 06, 2018, 08:54:13 PM
Pity they've sacked sparky.  ;D

Real problems at the back, they could be swapping places with us if they don't sorting it out.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: lewisant on January 06, 2018, 09:20:58 PM
Who's available then...
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: zippyandbungle on January 06, 2018, 10:08:17 PM
Who's available then...
Sherwood 👍
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Albionic on January 06, 2018, 10:14:32 PM
Sherwood - Forest !
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: tommcneill on January 07, 2018, 12:19:55 AM
Reading the Oatcake re: Berahino  :D

Hate to say “We told you so”

But

“We told you so”
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: ex coseley kid on January 07, 2018, 02:31:05 PM
Reading the Oatcake re: Berahino  :D

Hate to say “We told you so”

But

“We told you so”


Ah, Berahino and Odemwingie. I feel guilty now, we held them back for so long from their true potential.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Smooth Lad on January 14, 2018, 10:12:32 AM
Gutted Flores turned them down. I had 20 quid on him at 22/1 earlier in the week. Took the mrs out for a slap-up meal on the basis he'd come in to 1/6.

Ah well, Megson is about 8/1 now.  :D
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: BigFrank20 on January 14, 2018, 01:38:11 PM
Apparently the chubby one turned up yesterday morning ready for what is actually Mondays match against united!
As it said on twitter the gift that keeps on giving and giving and giving
http://www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/saido-berahino-stoke-manchester-united-1062139
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DTgGNEMWsAA5f-R.jpg:large

Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: zippyandbungle on January 14, 2018, 01:52:01 PM
#getsherwoodin
#saunderstheassistant

Come on baggies, make the magic happen..
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: barnestormer on January 14, 2018, 07:47:25 PM
Apparently the chubby one turned up yesterday morning ready for what is actually Mondays match against united!
As it said on twitter the gift that keeps on giving and giving and giving
http://www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/saido-berahino-stoke-manchester-united-1062139
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DTgGNEMWsAA5f-R.jpg:large
he don't care,the waster is loffin his nuts off at him conning Stoke for a lucrative 5 year contract
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: smosher34 on January 14, 2018, 08:32:14 PM
60k a week whos laffing now 😕
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: TheBrom on January 14, 2018, 08:45:31 PM
Martin O'Neil has rejected them as well apparently.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/42652627
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on January 14, 2018, 08:46:41 PM
They will have to get Pulis back.  :o
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: alex1 on January 14, 2018, 10:25:44 PM
Just reading the Oatcake. Serious concern about suicides in the Stoke on Trent area with rumours of Paul Lambert in talks for manager job.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: caravanc58 on January 14, 2018, 10:34:59 PM
Just reading the Oatcake. Serious concern about suicides in the Stoke on Trent area with rumours of Paul Lambert in talks for manager job.
Stoke would have been quite active i think this transfer window but without a manager in place it's damaging to them. honestly think they'll go this season .
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: zippyandbungle on January 14, 2018, 10:45:21 PM
Sherwood
Sherwood
Sherwood
Sherwood
Sherwood
Sherwood
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: mank baggie on January 15, 2018, 05:47:38 AM
I would love pulls to do a u turn and go back to stoke just to show boro they are not this massive club they think they are.

Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Mikkyk on January 15, 2018, 10:34:01 AM
This is turning similar to the dingle debacle of a few years ago.

Stoke just need Curbishley to reject them and they'll have matched it.

Megson now 2nd favourite!
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: TheJacko2000 on January 15, 2018, 11:24:59 AM
Stoke having their 'Alan Irvine' moment.


Paul Lambert to be appointed manager today.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: alex1 on January 15, 2018, 11:28:22 AM
Stoke having their 'Alan Irvine' moment.


Paul Lambert to be appointed manager today.

Even on such a sad day as today with Cyrille's passing, there will be much entertainment reading Oatcake, I imagine!
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Dan87uk on January 15, 2018, 11:36:12 AM
it's generated near enough 7 pages in 30 mins with mostly crying Stokies... I'm now VERY confident of our ability to climb up the table away from both Swansea and now Stoke
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: KYA on January 15, 2018, 11:41:15 AM
Never liked a stoke team or its fans, to see them go down after crowing how good they thought they were two seasons ago would be brilliant.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: skyclad99 on January 15, 2018, 11:43:51 AM
Even on such a sad day as today with Cyrille's passing, there will be much entertainment reading Oatcake, I imagine!

Actually they have nothing but glowing praise for our Cyrille, so I am leaving them alone today
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Mikkyk on January 15, 2018, 11:48:12 AM
it's generated near enough 7 pages in 30 mins with mostly crying Stokies... I'm now VERY confident of our ability to climb up the table away from both Swansea and now Stoke

Indeed, just one more team to have a shocker of an appointment and we might be safe.

Maybe Sparky can take Newcastle or Southampton down.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: barnestormer on January 15, 2018, 11:55:32 AM
Loffin,another failed manager on the merry go round
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: DaveWBA on January 15, 2018, 11:58:25 AM
The obsession with PL experience strikes again.

Did well to keep his head above water at the Villa for as long as did. Yet classed as an abject failure by most the Wolves fans I've spoken to about him.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WoysWunderful on January 15, 2018, 01:07:24 PM
Trying to force the coates family out of stoke  ;D ;D ;D ;D

Without them bankrolling them and they'd be be languishing in the lower divisions or worst, bust.

Never thought id say this but stoke fans = fickle as they come.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: caravanc58 on January 15, 2018, 02:10:48 PM
if there's ever been a desperate appointment this is it.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: tommcneill on January 15, 2018, 06:37:05 PM
Lambert  :o :o :o ;D ;D ;D :-X
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: tommcneill on January 15, 2018, 06:37:51 PM
I’m surprised at that appointment it’s a shocker

Desperation at its finest
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on January 15, 2018, 06:55:59 PM
Would love him to take them down  :D
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: thelawyer on January 15, 2018, 07:10:17 PM
I bet Saido scores tonight and wonder if he will have a Regis t shirt on underneath.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: buzzingbaggie on January 15, 2018, 07:10:51 PM
Berahino turns up a day early for the Utd game and run fails to make the sqaud today. Tw@t.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: beechyboy90 on January 15, 2018, 07:14:43 PM
That's an appointment that could well relegate Stoke
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: mank baggie on January 15, 2018, 07:16:59 PM
Hope they get battered proper tonight
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBArgo on January 15, 2018, 07:24:40 PM
Bizarre appointment, as said earlier - it truly is their 'Irvine moment'.

As much as I disliked Hughes, he was a genuine Premier League manager with a solid record, whereas Lambert isn't. Other than his stint at Norwich he's been a poor manager and made the Wolves team look average last season in the Championship. This is great news for us.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Aixelsyd on January 15, 2018, 08:27:24 PM
Apparently the chubby one turned up yesterday morning ready for what is actually Mondays match against united!
As it said on twitter the gift that keeps on giving and giving and giving
http://www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/saido-berahino-stoke-manchester-united-1062139
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DTgGNEMWsAA5f-R.jpg:large

I just looked..... he didn't even make the bench for this game :)
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: zippyandbungle on January 15, 2018, 08:30:37 PM
Whilst it is funny,it’s not as bad an appointment as when we put Irvine in...
I actually think he did ok with the restrictions at the villa and did get benteke,Weizmann and the whore spawn firing..
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Mikkyk on January 18, 2018, 02:36:19 PM
I just looked..... he didn't even make the bench for this game :)

You have to wonder what's happening with him again now.

He turned up a day early to a game that he wasn't even in the squad for?
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: east-stand-nick on January 18, 2018, 02:44:16 PM
You have to wonder what's happening with him again now.

He turned up a day early to a game that he wasn't even in the squad for?

He'll either be non-league or in jail in 5 years.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Atomic on January 18, 2018, 02:47:53 PM
He'll either be non-league or in jail in 5 years.


The guy is the definition of "joke".

What a waster.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: SmethDan on January 18, 2018, 03:07:35 PM
Stoke sign Stafylidis on loan, sounds like a viral infection  ;D .

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/42725722
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: zippyandbungle on January 19, 2018, 05:20:57 PM
Stoke sign Stafylidis on loan, sounds like a viral infection  ;D .

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/42725722

No goalie, they are playing "thrush back"😂😂
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: TheBrom on January 20, 2018, 08:38:13 AM
No goalie, they are playing "thrush back"😂😂

Ian Thrush?
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: BigFrank20 on May 08, 2018, 05:07:10 AM
The Oatcake is well worth a read if you need cheering up however this was the best and is off twatter https://twitter.com/twitter/statuses/993513458531520514
I dislike these lot almost as much as the seals and not quite as much as the wulfs
COYB
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: skyclad99 on May 08, 2018, 07:56:43 AM
The Oatcake is well worth a read if you need cheering up however this was the best and is off twatter https://twitter.com/twitter/statuses/993513458531520514
I dislike these lot almost as much as the seals and not quite as much as the wulfs
COYB

Very good!. I go onto Oatcake often.....I thought we were in a rough place, but they always cheer me up.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Hull Baggie on May 08, 2018, 09:27:34 AM
The Oatcake is well worth a read if you need cheering up however this was the best and is off twatter https://twitter.com/twitter/statuses/993513458531520514
I dislike these lot almost as much as the seals and not quite as much as the wulfs
COYB
oh man that is brutal.....****ing funny but Brutal!
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Albionic on May 08, 2018, 10:55:33 AM
Brilliant, absolutely brilliant !  Thanks for sharing that, made me a very happy person !

i just twigged that this is Paddy Power sticking it to Bet365 (Coates family) - even better !
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: AlbionFan on May 18, 2018, 03:07:04 PM
Paul Lambert has left Stoke City
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Fritzl Palace on May 18, 2018, 03:26:45 PM
Paul Lambert has left Stoke City

Wise move by them. I imagine they won't be so daft as to appoint someone with no Championship managerial experience to take over their rebuild process
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBAinDEVON on May 18, 2018, 04:14:05 PM
they are favourites to win it, in it
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: tommcneill on May 18, 2018, 04:18:41 PM
oh man that is brutal.....****ing funny but Brutal!
I am howling

This is absolutely class  :D :D :D
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: alex1 on May 20, 2018, 09:23:36 PM
I am howling

This is absolutely class  :D :D :D
I don't much like Stoke, but it's a first to hear toilet humour described as classy!
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: TheBrom on May 21, 2018, 06:55:43 PM
Gary Rowett has been given permission to speak to Stoke about their managerial vacancy according to BBC news just now.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: AlbionFan on May 21, 2018, 08:02:05 PM
Gary Rowett has been given permission to speak to Stoke about their managerial vacancy according to BBC news just now.

For what reason would Derby agree to this? Perhaps,  “caveat emptor”
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: DaveWBA on May 21, 2018, 09:34:51 PM
For what reason would Derby agree to this? Perhaps,  “caveat emptor”

Balancing of the books, mate. Same reason why they'd be looking to offload Vydra.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: AlbionFan on May 21, 2018, 09:55:24 PM
Balancing of the books, mate. Same reason why they'd be looking to offload Vydra.

But surely, it’s more cost effective to sell players than a good manager, my original point being, do Derby think he is up to the job?
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: AlbionFan on May 21, 2018, 09:58:29 PM
I have heard that David Moyes was under consideration for the job.

Personally, I think Stoke would be more of a threat and force under Moyes than Rowett
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: DaveWBA on May 22, 2018, 08:01:29 AM
But surely, it’s more cost effective to sell players than a good manager, my original point being, do Derby think he is up to the job?

I think one is a byproduct of the others. Flogging players from under the managers nose and he starts to get cold feet, get as much compo as you can (£1.8m apparently) and move on.

I have heard that David Moyes was under consideration for the job.

Personally, I think Stoke would be more of a threat and force under Moyes than Rowett

If we were to go down the route of yet more pragmatism then I'd sooner we went for a proven hoofer like Moyes or dare it, even Allardyce.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: AlbionFan on May 22, 2018, 09:08:52 PM
Breaking News

Stoke City appoint Gary Rowett as Manager

Source: https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/stoke-appoint-gary-rowett-new-12580120.amp?__twitter_impression=true
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: alex1 on May 22, 2018, 09:22:03 PM
Breaking News

Stoke City appoint Gary Rowett as Manager

Source: https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/stoke-appoint-gary-rowett-new-12580120.amp?__twitter_impression=true
I think Stoke have just given their promotion chances a massive boost. Still young and ambitious, but with some solid experience building teams at championship level. Would probably have got Blues up if he was allowed to.  I would have been quite happy if we had gone in for him.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: wba_1996 on May 22, 2018, 09:50:01 PM
I think Stoke have just given their promotion chances a massive boost. Still young and ambitious, but with some solid experience building teams at championship level. Would probably have got Blues up if he was allowed to.  I would have been quite happy if we had gone in for him.

Why? He plays some of the most defensive football in the league. He'll probably get them promoted but it will be mind-numbing. Not saying I think Moore will be any better btw.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: alex1 on May 22, 2018, 10:04:45 PM
Why? He plays some of the most defensive football in the league. He'll probably get them promoted but it will be mind-numbing. Not saying I think Moore will be any better btw.

Derby scored 70 goals last season, which doesn't strike me as that defensive.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: wba_1996 on May 22, 2018, 10:41:56 PM
Derby scored 70 goals last season, which doesn't strike me as that defensive.

It's a common theme amongst Derby fans, and from anyone who has watched them under Rowett, that they aren't easy on the eye. Rowett is known as a defensive manager, nothing inherently wrong with that, as I say I think he'll get Stoke up. Wouldn't want him at Albion though.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Scooby Doo on May 22, 2018, 10:51:35 PM
Gary Rowett's performance as manager of Birmingham was one of the best turnarounds of a football club in recent memory. Unfortunately for him he got pooed on from a massive height. I wish him all the best as he genuinely deserves it based on his Birmingham experience.

He'll do well at Stoke, it'll be a good match and it's bad new for us.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: FallOutBoy on May 23, 2018, 08:58:09 AM
Gary Rowett's performance as manager of Birmingham was one of the best turnarounds of a football club in recent memory. Unfortunately for him he got pooed on from a massive height. I wish him all the best as he genuinely deserves it based on his Birmingham experience.

He'll do well at Stoke, it'll be a good match and it's bad new for us.

I heard Blues sacked him because he was touting himself for other jobs while employed there. If that's true, I wouldn't be surprised if he'd approached Stoke.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: OldburyWBA on May 23, 2018, 11:13:32 AM
I heard Blues sacked him because he was touting himself for other jobs while employed there. If that's true, I wouldn't be surprised if he'd approached Stoke.

I was told by someone who was told by someone connected to the club (I know it sounds like a mate of a mate of a mate or the bloke down the pub type thing  :D :D) that he was given a new deal due to his itchiness at speaking to other clubs but even after the new deal he was still touting himself round, maybe hearsay, maybe truth in it, who knows
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: skyclad99 on May 23, 2018, 11:21:08 AM
Have to say that Derby didn't seem to put up much resistance to losing their manager which is a little surprising given their relative success this year.....
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Hull Baggie on May 23, 2018, 11:52:58 AM
Gary Rowett's performance as manager of Birmingham was one of the best turnarounds of a football club in recent memory. Unfortunately for him he got pooed on from a massive height. I wish him all the best as he genuinely deserves it based on his Birmingham experience.

He'll do well at Stoke, it'll be a good match and it's bad new for us.

Why is it bad news for us? Personally I think from what's been said by Stoke players (Shawcross and Butland in particular) they are in an even bigger mess than us with players not being up to scratch. Even if it does work out well for Stoke and they get promoted there are still 2 other promotion places for us to get.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: SmethDan on May 23, 2018, 12:41:22 PM
I was told by someone who was told by someone connected to the club (I know it sounds like a mate of a mate of a mate or the bloke down the pub type thing  :D :D) that he was given a new deal due to his itchiness at speaking to other clubs but even after the new deal he was still touting himself round, maybe hearsay, maybe truth in it, who knows

In addition to this I was also told that following his last deal he was in the boardroom for improvements to his improved deal after nearly every win, along the lines of 'well I've just been offered this here......'
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Jeremy Roland Peace on May 23, 2018, 01:31:25 PM
Have to say that Derby didn't seem to put up much resistance to losing their manager which is a little surprising given their relative success this year.....

there was a rumour few weeks back he was out if they didn't go up.

if true guess it's best to be paid for him rather than paying to get rid of him.

if what has been mentioned about him elsewhere last few years is true then i would be concerned about his loyalty if appointing him
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: crazedwbafan18 on June 06, 2018, 10:37:00 PM
Anyone slightly worried these are looking strong. Joe allen commited and looks like Afobe will join for 12 million now. Cant see them below playoffs myself.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: HampshireBaggie on June 07, 2018, 05:08:31 AM
Anyone slightly worried these are looking strong. Joe allen commited and looks like Afobe will join for 12 million now. Cant see them below playoffs myself.

Not too concerned. Joe Allen is decent but they are gambling by scrapping his 50% wage cut. Afobe again good but we have both Rondon and Rodriguez at present, who who are better.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: liverbaggie on June 16, 2018, 08:06:39 PM
Etebo of Nigeria has signed for Stoke.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on June 16, 2018, 08:38:36 PM
Etebo of Nigeria has signed for Stoke.
The BBC web site stated that he just scored and own goal aghainst Croatia, but the in play web site gives it to Mario Mandzukic.

Edit....
Quote from the BBC...
Croatia grab the opener courtesy of the unfortunate Oghenekaro Etebo, who has joined Stoke City - you can fill in the blanks.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: AlbionFan on July 13, 2018, 09:30:29 PM
“Liverpool sign Xherdan Shaqiri for £13m on five-year deal from Stoke ”

They have some spare cash, wonder who / what they’ll spend it on?

Source: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2018/07/13/liverpool-sign-xherdan-shaqiri-13m-five-year-deal-stoke/amp/?__twitter_impression=true
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on July 13, 2018, 09:57:28 PM
Do they want Barry?
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: zippyandbungle on July 14, 2018, 09:20:46 PM
Do they want Barry?
Reckon we can get 14mil of them 😂
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: wba1993dave on July 24, 2018, 01:25:54 PM
Stoke have singed Tom Ince for £10million. Looks like Stoke are trying to buy their way out of the Championship.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Albionic on July 24, 2018, 01:27:14 PM
Stoke have singed Tom Ince for £10million. Looks like Stoke are trying to buy their way out of the Championship.
Doing a villa? but with loadsadosh behind them. Problem will be FFP if they don't make it back sharpish.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Atomic on July 24, 2018, 01:27:25 PM
Stoke have singed Tom Ince for £10million. Looks like Stoke are trying to buy their way out of the Championship.


Wow. He's no better than McClean.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Albionic on July 24, 2018, 01:29:21 PM

Wow. He's no better than McClean.

Not so sure about that, Ince isn't mid / top-prem quality but he's better than McLean (IMO anyway)
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: skyclad99 on July 24, 2018, 01:36:28 PM
They seem confident about signing Chester, so we might get our £2m yet..........
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBAinDEVON on July 24, 2018, 01:49:20 PM
run away leaders
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: liverbaggie on July 24, 2018, 02:18:18 PM
We should get Chester back,would only cost us £6 mill.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: CL3MO on July 24, 2018, 02:23:53 PM
We're miles behind these in terms of preparation, management structure, planning and player recruitment.

Embarrassing considering that we had an extra month and a half to plan for this season.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: TheJacko2000 on July 24, 2018, 02:55:26 PM
We're miles behind these in terms of preparation, management structure, planning and player recruitment.

Embarrassing considering that we had an extra month and a half to plan for this season.


No idea how you come to that conclusion.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Westie on July 24, 2018, 03:41:07 PM
I am glad that we are not funded by online gambling. I detest gambling companies, all the tv advertising by online gambling outfits is horrifying, parasites on society, especially on those with the least.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: CL3MO on July 24, 2018, 03:54:45 PM

No idea how you come to that conclusion.

You can only comment on it from an outside perspective but on the face of it, I see no other argument.

Preparation - We had a month and a half (at the very least) extra in terms of preparing a promotion charge for the upcoming season. Fast forward to less than two weeks before the start of the season and let's see where both clubs are.

Stoke have a manager and management team in place (including specialised coaches - SKP as striker coach). Although some Stoke fans are not always happy about how long it takes them to negotiate transfers, they have a clear structure which supports Rowett with signing players.

We STILL have not got an assistant manager and if it is Graeme Jones as speculated, he will have missed the entirety of pre-season and had nothing to do with any incoming transfers, something that you must presume Moore is involved in. We lost two chief scouts at the end of last season and correct me if I am wrong but I don't believe they have been replaced. Then we look at our technical director. We currently have somebody on the books who, to my knowledge, is doing absolutely nothing at the club. Rumour has it he fell out with current players and it has since been confirmed that he has been pushed out to the side until the end of his contract. Are we still looking for a technical director? Who's calling the shots with transfers?

Management structure - Pretty much explained above.

Planning - Not an easy one to judge as you never truly know but especially with Richard Garlick leaving, who is setting the agenda with transfers? Just Jenkins? As fans, at the moment nobody is sure who is calling the shots at the club.

Player recruitment Yes, we're all laughing for them at signing McClean for what looks like a stupid amount of money. However, he is a proven performer at this level. When we signed him from Wigan, that season in the Championship, he scored 6/7 goals and chipped in with the same amount of assists. You hope that with a decent spell at Barnsley that Ashley Barnes could do something similar but I cannot help to be underwhelmed by signing a player on loan from Leicester, who, whatever happens, will have nothing to do with us after the next 12 months. Afobe is a cracking signing at this level. Guaranteed goals if he has the service. Tom Ince, at a pricey 10 million, is another proven performer who will provide goals and assists. Sam Johnstone is a cracking signing and the other keepers should really be back up for us.

Yet, at the moment, with Dawson's head all over the place, could you possibly tell who our centre-back partnership is going to be? Are Newcastle going to activate Rondon's release clause? Then what? 

Although this is a pessimistic way of thinking, my general point is that before the season starts there are a lot more questions being asked of us than that of Stoke. There is much uncertainty at our Club at the moment from top to bottom.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Albion79 on July 24, 2018, 04:17:48 PM
We have lost three of our arguably our three biggest disappointments from last season - Evans, Greg and Sturridge.

We have lost squad players (myhill, yacob and Gmac) who rarely featured under Big Dave.

Big Dave coached the majority of this squad for the last six weeks of the season, he has seen them previous, he has a big advantage on Rowett there who has only been working with his players since pre-season began, admittedly ideally we would of had an assistant manager by now but if it is Jones and thats who Big Dave wanted, surely its best to wait for who you want than panic and get your 2nd or 3rd choice.

We dont know what sort of manager Big Dave will be and how much of a success he will be, however the same can be said of Rowett. Rowett has a good reputation but at the time of writing has not pulled up any trees in the championship, he steadied Blues then harshly got the sack, he spent big at Derby and failed to get them up.

There is a big difference between steadying the ship and getting a team promoted, he in under big pressure at Stoke, he didnt do it at Derby, be interesting to see how he does at Stoke. Also ask most Blues fans and they will say as much as they appreciate the job he did, his football is awful, it may of improved in time but his spell at Derby would suggest that isnt the case, after Hughes and Lambert, Stoke fans may be getting more of the same.

The above could apply to us with Darren Moore, but people getting carried away about Stoke, they have signed three decent championship players - Afobe, McClean and Ince, not even top players, at least Wolves got Neves and Jota last season.

Stoke may get Chester, looked good at Villa, and i think he would get into our team, however based on our current squad, Ince maybe would get games, not sure Mcclean and Afobe would.

We may lose Rondon, they may lose Butland, its all if and buts but personally i am yet to see the great business stoke have supposedly done.

PS - I am not saying we have done great either, i would still like us to sign 1 or 2 creative players.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: CL3MO on July 24, 2018, 04:24:46 PM
We have lost three of our arguably our three biggest disappointments from last season - Evans, Greg and Sturridge.

We have lost squad players (myhill, yacob and Gmac) who rarely featured under Big Dave.

Big Dave coached the majority of this squad for the last six weeks of the season, he has seen them previous, he has a big advantage on Rowett there who has only been working with his players since pre-season began, admittedly ideally we would of had an assistant manager by now but if it is Jones and thats who Big Dave wanted, surely its best to wait for who you want than panic and get your 2nd or 3rd choice.

We dont know what sort of manager Big Dave will be and how much of a success he will be, however the same can be said of Rowett. Rowett has a good reputation but at the time of writing has not pulled up any trees in the championship, he steadied Blues then harshly got the sack, he spent big at Derby and failed to get them up.

There is a big difference between steadying the ship and getting a team promoted, he in under big pressure at Stoke, he didnt do it at Derby, be interesting to see how he does at Stoke. Also ask most Blues fans and they will say as much as they appreciate the job he did, his football is awful, it may of improved in time but his spell at Derby would suggest that isnt the case, after Hughes and Lambert, Stoke fans may be getting more of the same.

The above could apply to us with Darren Moore, but people getting carried away about Stoke, they have signed three decent championship players - Afobe, McClean and Ince, not even top players, at least Wolves got Neves and Jota last season.

Stoke may get Chester, looked good at Villa, and i think he would get into our team, however based on our current squad, Ince maybe would get games, not sure Mcclean and Afobe would.

We may lose Rondon, they may lose Butland, its all if and buts but personally i am yet to see the great business stoke have supposedly done.

PS - I am not saying we have done great either, i would still like us to sign 1 or 2 creative players.

And this is what it pretty much comes down to - 'ifs and buts'. Every fan has their own opinion on how ready we are for this long Championship season.

I've got my fingers crossed that over the next few months we would have brought in an Assistant Manager, a new Technical Director, have started the season well, strengthened the squad and got rid of players who do not want to be there.

Fingers crossed...
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: liverbaggie on July 24, 2018, 09:10:52 PM
Just a thought guys,counting the last 6 premier matches and the 4 friendlies is it only one loss?
I think it is,so Dave is doing alright,so far so good.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Baggies on July 25, 2018, 07:55:43 AM

Wow. He's no better than McClean.

It is a VERY short term signing, but at 26, he has already had 4 championship seasons where he has scored double figure goal tallys from the wing (including his last 3 at this level), and while I don't have his assist figures to hand, we know he will chip in with a fair few.

He is just about the most solid championship player you can sign. Not a world beater by any stretch, but still he is proven at this level.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: AlbionFan on August 01, 2018, 07:22:04 PM
John Percy Tweeted

“Stoke are hopeful of signing Everton defender Ashley Williams on loan before the weekend. Stoke have also made a bid of around £1m for Ipswich left-back Jonas Knudsen”

They are welcome to Williams IMO
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: skyclad99 on August 01, 2018, 07:24:36 PM
John Percy Tweeted

“Stoke are hopeful of signing Everton defender Ashley Williams on loan before the weekend. Stoke have also made a bid of around £1m for Ipswich left-back Jonas Knudsen”

They are welcome to Williams IMO

Reported on Sky that Everton want N'Daiye and Williams will be part of the deal.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: SmethDan on August 01, 2018, 07:26:44 PM
Williams looked shot to bits last season.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: TheJacko2000 on August 01, 2018, 07:35:36 PM
These lot will really struggle this year.  It's almost an exact replica of Villa's first season down here. Expensive 'Premier League' experienced players on their way down from their peak years.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: caravanc58 on August 01, 2018, 07:54:46 PM
These lot will really struggle this year.  It's almost an exact replica of Villa's first season down here. Expensive 'Premier League' experienced players on their way down from their peak years.
nonsense, Berahino  will fire them to promotion. 😂
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: BigFrank20 on August 06, 2018, 06:57:50 PM
Well the favourites for immediate promotion back seem to have had an even worse start than us!  :P
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Smooth Lad on August 12, 2018, 07:03:51 PM
They're just finding out McClean tries hard but doesn't really do anything football wise.  ;D

The oatcake shall be renamed the meltdowncake this season.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: baggie53 on August 12, 2018, 08:50:13 PM
They're just finding out McClean tries hard but doesn't really do anything football wise.  ;D

The oatcake shall be renamed the meltdowncake this season.

Just been on there and had a read - they really are not happy with McClean, but one was suggesting LB was his best position  :o :o

What a disaster that would be  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Baggies on August 12, 2018, 09:54:08 PM
Still expect them to come good but glad to see them struggling so far. They have spent a fair bit of money on players who have proven to be not quite good enough to be solid premier league players.

I'm hoping that they have bought too many of that type of player. Maybe if they all come together, their mediocrity will take over.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Albionic on August 12, 2018, 10:44:19 PM
they (the fans) have seen through McLean pretty quickly.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: TheBrom on August 13, 2018, 01:27:34 PM
they (the fans) have seen through McLean pretty quickly.

They’ve had years of us saying the same thing to help them
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: skyclad99 on August 13, 2018, 01:39:02 PM
They’ve had years of us saying the same thing to help them

as we did with Saido and Fletcher but they just don't listen.... ;D
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: BigFrank20 on August 19, 2018, 08:22:23 AM
just having my usual mooch round the Oatcake and very surprised to see a thread about how the PNE police on duty at their game used pepper spray on them in the concourse at half time. Whatever the reason using pepper spray in a confined space like that surely can't be how it should be used? http://oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/281768/pepper-spray-incident?page=1
I know Stoke still have a goodly selection of nutters but then so do we as do most if not all footie clubs but the idea of us visiting grounds we haven't been near for many years and them thinking its OK to pepper spray the ex prem upstarts is a trifle disturbing especially for the safety youngsters at games with parents. If I end up in a concourse at half time it's because I need access to a urinal not because I'm thinking of kicking a door open to go out for a fag
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on August 22, 2018, 09:23:29 PM
Ooer...Losin 3-0 at home.  ;D
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: AlbionFan on August 22, 2018, 09:28:47 PM
They’ve swapped from plan “B” to plan “C” and still no joy
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: vrabbit on August 22, 2018, 09:46:35 PM
I'm enjoying this, I won't even lie.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Pie on August 22, 2018, 09:46:53 PM
losing 3-0 at home to Wigan is a hilarious result
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Pie on August 22, 2018, 10:04:52 PM
The Oatcake is worth a read right now thats for sure

Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: dan7heman on August 22, 2018, 10:08:04 PM
The Oatcake is worth a read right now thats for sure

Was just going to say the same. . . Meltdown time.. Rowett out... McLean the worst stoke player of all time hs ha ha... Going down etc. ..
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: vrabbit on August 22, 2018, 10:56:59 PM
lmao there's a thread about Berahino being their best player today, that really is GOLD.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: timdon on August 22, 2018, 11:11:24 PM
Lost 0-3, Berahino substituted, Fletcher substituted, McClean booked. We really have taken them to the cleaners when it comes to transfers.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: timdon on August 22, 2018, 11:26:05 PM
The Oatcake is worth a read right now thats for sure
Had a quick glance as I'm bored. Best comment was that McClean makes dog sh** look like fillet steak  :D
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: wba_1996 on August 23, 2018, 12:01:34 AM
Rowett is a woeful manager, of all the young English managers coming through they've ended up with the biggest dinosaur of the generation. May as well have gone back down the Pulis/Lambert route, it really is a carbon copy: 

Heavily reliant on British-based signings (something that I worry about Moore)
Foreign players not trusted (Etebo, Bojan)
Old school 442 with central midfielders not suited to it (Fletcher-Allen)
Zero consideration of the age of the squad and players being signed

I thought they'd get promoted in spite of Rowett because their squad is easily the strongest in the league, thankfully I can't see that being the case anymore because he's frozen out all of their best foreign players and is persisting with the 'ard working British plodders.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: SmethDan on August 23, 2018, 12:32:46 AM
lmao there's a thread about Berahino being their best player today, that really is GOLD.

Didn't watch the game personally but according to co commentator radio reports and comments posted online he had a decent game.

When he was taken off the Stokies started chanting 'you don't know what you're doing' to Rowett as they thought Afobe should have come off instead.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Foster#1 on August 23, 2018, 04:07:44 AM
Rowett also admitted there had been a bust-up at half-time between goalkeeper Jack Butland, captain Ryan Shawcross and James McClean


Oh dear
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: KYA on August 23, 2018, 07:49:58 AM
Bambino, Fletcher and McClean we've certainly done a job on stoke  :D.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: skyclad99 on August 23, 2018, 08:02:53 AM
It says something when according to many Saido was the best one in their team last night. He is going to score soon........:)
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: crazedwbafan18 on August 23, 2018, 08:04:58 AM
I do worry they will get a good result just in time to play us though, once the confidence starts for them they will pick up  :(
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: The Joust on August 23, 2018, 08:19:08 AM
Odds on him bagging his first Stoke goal against us ...  ::)
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Hull Baggie on August 23, 2018, 08:45:58 AM
Stoke seem to be having the issue that I dreaded us having, in that a lot of their players seems to think they are still Premier league players and haven't been able to mentally adjust to playing in a league where everyone scraps for every point and there are very few weak teams. Being, virtually, every pundits pick for the title seems to have played into this ego trip as well. 

It's interesting reading comments on the Oatcake about Rowett. Most are unhappy with him from a tactics/team selection/recruitment angle whereas a smaller number are pointing the finger firmly at the players. Some fans are saying that they should have kept Lambert, some want Allardyce, some Pulis and even Moyes....all this while berating Rowett for being a dinosaur or a poor mans Pulis!
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Albionic on August 23, 2018, 10:45:11 AM
Stoke seem to be having the issue that I dreaded us having, in that a lot of their players seems to think they are still Premier league players and haven't been able to mentally adjust to playing in a league where everyone scraps for every point and there are very few weak teams. Being, virtually, every pundits pick for the title seems to have played into this ego trip as well. 

It's interesting reading comments on the Oatcake about Rowett. Most are unhappy with him from a tactics/team selection/recruitment angle whereas a smaller number are pointing the finger firmly at the players. Some fans are saying that they should have kept Lambert, some want Allardyce, some Pulis and even Moyes....all this while berating Rowett for being a dinosaur or a poor mans Pulis!

Wouldn't it be l;ovely to see them back where they were before the Coates cash appeared, non-entities !!
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: SmethDan on August 23, 2018, 12:01:17 PM
Stoke seem to be having the issue that I dreaded us having, in that a lot of their players seems to think they are still Premier league players and haven't been able to mentally adjust to playing in a league where everyone scraps for every point and there are very few weak teams. Being, virtually, every pundits pick for the title seems to have played into this ego trip as well. 

It's interesting reading comments on the Oatcake about Rowett. Most are unhappy with him from a tactics/team selection/recruitment angle whereas a smaller number are pointing the finger firmly at the players. Some fans are saying that they should have kept Lambert, some want Allardyce, some Pulis and even Moyes....all this while berating Rowett for being a dinosaur or a poor mans Pulis!

I'll be perfectly honest here.

I've never wholly understood the fuss surrounding Mr Rowett's managerial talents.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: liverbaggie on August 23, 2018, 12:11:00 PM
Don't worry if bera  dared to score against us we would score more,because were better than them and we will beat them,they're still in the shadow of Pulis and have a young Pulis as manager
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: skyclad99 on August 23, 2018, 12:13:28 PM
I'll be perfectly honest here.

I've never wholly understood the fuss surrounding Mr Rowett's managerial talents.

He was doing OK at Birmingham with limited resources. It is now clear that he had them punching above their weight. However, his subsequent record speaks for itself. For me it is interesting to note that Derby didn't put up much of a fight to keep him. Very very average.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Baggies on August 23, 2018, 01:15:11 PM
Rowett has surprised me, he had Burton challenging for promotion for 3 years straight, he took blues from relegation candidates to play off contenders and he kept Derby in the play offs. He had things to prove at Stoke as he needed to show he was more than just a good organiser, but so far he is failing.

Could be that his tactics are suited to keeping a team away from danger, but not good enough to pick up the required wins to get promotions. I'm hoping that is the case, as it seems Stoke haven't addressed some squad issues in the transfer window despite spending millions on players who hsve done well in the division before.

They will still be a threat and I have no doubt they will be in the play off battle, but unless something drastic changes, they will struggle to be title contenders.

Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: TheJacko2000 on August 23, 2018, 02:45:16 PM
I said it before the start of the season and reiterate it now, these are in serious trouble. If they don't beat Hull on Saturday it will become a full blown crisis. They are more likely to go down than win promotion imo.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: vrabbit on August 23, 2018, 03:45:21 PM
Didn't watch the game personally but according to co commentator radio reports and comments posted online he had a decent game.

When he was taken off the Stokies started chanting 'you don't know what you're doing' to Rowett as they thought Afobe should have come off instead.

oh I wasn't suggesting it was an inaccurate observation by them, just that things are definitely going wrong if Saido is your best performer.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: wimbledon baggie on August 23, 2018, 03:57:43 PM

I'm probably not supposed to raise a subject on another forum but if you want a good old chuckle go and see what the Stoke fans are saying about JM on the Oatcake, its priceless  ;D

7 pages of it with a few Baggies making comments stirring. Hilarious !!
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: skyclad99 on August 23, 2018, 04:00:49 PM
Already been there- to say they dont like him is an understatement.

Oatcake is a constant source of amusement these day.......completely unregulated as well. I have to say I am impressed with some of their avatars though.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: NathWBA on August 23, 2018, 04:12:09 PM
Is there a link to the thread?
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: AlbionFan on August 23, 2018, 04:17:07 PM
Is there a link to the thread?

It can be found here on westbrom.com on the link below with other teams forums

http://westbrom.com/forum/index.php?topic=3611.0
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Albionic on August 23, 2018, 04:38:18 PM
try this, i read last couple of pages, hope he hasn't unpacked !

http://oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/281745/mclean
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: BigFrank20 on August 23, 2018, 04:56:38 PM
I have to say I am impressed with some of their avatars though.
Let me guess that one of them involves a Hulk Hogan type of tee shirt ripping?  :P
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: gerry m on August 23, 2018, 06:24:55 PM
try this, i read last couple of pages, hope he hasn't unpacked !

http://oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/281745/mclean

Hope he isnt reading the oatcake ;D
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: KYA on August 23, 2018, 07:35:40 PM
No excuses the bloke is dire probably a bigger rip off than bambino  :o.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Albionic on August 24, 2018, 10:51:12 AM
Let me guess that one of them involves a Hulk Hogan type of tee shirt ripping?  :P
Seems a very pleasant young filly !
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: royhan on August 28, 2018, 09:16:35 PM
Berahino scores his first goal  for two and a half years tonight.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Scruffy Stan on August 28, 2018, 09:17:44 PM
Berahino scores his first goal  for two and a half years tonight.
Getting his eye in for the weekend.  :(
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: DutchBaggies on August 28, 2018, 09:22:23 PM
I think we all know exactly what is going to happen on Saturday. 🤨
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: dan7heman on August 28, 2018, 09:56:25 PM
Berahino scores his first goal  for two and a half years tonight.

Might yet be an own goal... Defender kicked it in.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Baggies on August 29, 2018, 07:58:34 AM
He has been playing well so far this season. Going to be hard for him to go from no goals in 2 years to 20 goal a season striker, but I said pre season that he could click as he has the ability, especially at this level.

He is one to watch at the weekend. Really hope we can keep him out.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Albionic on August 29, 2018, 08:08:24 AM
He has been playing well so far this season. Going to be hard for him to go from no goals in 2 years to 20 goal a season striker, but I said pre season that he could click as he has the ability, especially at this level.

He is one to watch at the weekend. Really hope we can keep him out.
I think Mr McLean will be up for it as well,
last league game scored
last night hit the bar which Saido followed up on,
sounds like he could be making a little impress !ion
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: timdon on August 29, 2018, 01:11:55 PM
What a terrible decision to sell Berahino and McClean, it's going to come back and bite us on the bum.........not.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: SmethDan on August 29, 2018, 01:58:10 PM
What a terrible decision to sell Berahino and McClean, it's going to come back and bite us on the bum.........not.

Hhhmm, bit early for me that one just yet  :-X .
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: swad35 on August 29, 2018, 02:37:15 PM
What a terrible decision to sell Berahino and McClean, it's going to come back and bite us on the bum.........not.

Oh great now you’ve done it!!!
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Albionic on August 29, 2018, 03:37:26 PM
What a terrible decision to sell Berahino and McClean, it's going to come back and bite us on the bum.........not.

Don't forget Fletch weighing in with a worldy from 40 yards !

Doomed, we're all doomed !
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: koren on September 01, 2018, 05:32:53 PM
It's time to read the posts on oatcake. ;D
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: BigFrank20 on September 01, 2018, 06:25:50 PM
See you there beer in hand  8)
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: ex coseley kid on September 01, 2018, 06:28:20 PM
I'm enjoying this season so far. Doens't that tell you everything you need to know.

Sod the Prem. Unless we get back up there again of course.

 :D
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Standaman on September 02, 2018, 09:36:14 AM
Few observations on Stoke.

On paper they have the strongest squad in the League by some distance. Although I suspect there are one or two players in there whose reputations and fees are not wholly justified. That said if Rowett does not get this team into the play off's he is a poor Head Coach.

I have always thought that Rowett was overrated. His reputation was largely based on getting modest teams organised and disciplined and it was greatly enhanced by the chaos that broke out at Blues after he left which made his work there look better than it was. Having one of the better teams in the Division is a different challenge and I'm not so sure he has the imagination for it.

A word about Berahino. While he has largely been the author of his own demise with his off the pitch antics I cannot believe that he has managed to find 3 coaches at Stoke who do not have the 1st clue as to how to use him. It is really very simple like Gayle get the ball to his feet in the box and he will score (although after so long I am not sure about this). Don't do that and it is like playing with 10 men. As soon as I saw him line up in a 4-4-2 as the secondary striker in a team geared up toward getting crosses into the box I knew he wasn't going to come back to haunt us.

Joe Allen might be the best  passer of the ball in the Championship but with the other 9 players stood like statues he isn't going to hurt teams as much as he should. Envious of Woods and when he came on you could see the potential of an Allen Woods axis in midfield, yet this was nullified by the complete lack of movement ahead of the ball.

Across the season they will do better because they have too much quality in the squad not to see off most of the teams in the Championship (they won't double dip or at least they shouldn't) but at the moment I wouldn't back them for a promotion challenge.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Baggies on September 02, 2018, 10:38:25 AM
It seems Rowett has too many players to pick from, although they have let a few of their big name flops go in the last couple of weeks.

I just can't write them off with all of the quality they have and what they still have to come back. Clucas, Ince and Woods all still need to be incorporated into the team, and Etebo looks a good buy, not to mention pkayers like Adam, Fletcher, Martins indi who could still do something in this division. Their strike force is not as good as it first seemed, but Bojan, Berahino, Afobe and Diouf should still be better than most.

Their 2 issues are that they have a lot of good championship players who are no better than this level (McLean, Ince, Afobe, Clucas all brought in). Put together, has their collective averageness pulled the squad down?

Rowett is also now having question markers. He did ok at Derby but their fans couldn't stand his football and now they are doing better without him. Is he an average manager who isn't flexible enough to find a formation that works at Stoke? (because with their squad on paper, most good managers would have them challenging, and good ones would walk the league).
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: barnestormer on September 02, 2018, 11:46:44 AM
It seems Rowett has too many players to pick from, although they have let a few of their big name flops go in the last couple of weeks.

I just can't write them off with all of the quality they have and what they still have to come back. Clucas, Ince and Woods all still need to be incorporated into the team, and Etebo looks a good buy, not to mention pkayers like Adam, Fletcher, Martins indi who could still do something in this division. Their strike force is not as good as it first seemed, but Bojan, Berahino, Afobe and Diouf should still be better than most.

Their 2 issues are that they have a lot of good championship players who are no better than this level (McLean, Ince, Afobe, Clucas all brought in). Put together, has their collective averageness pulled the squad down?

Rowett is also now having question markers. He did ok at Derby but their fans couldn't stand his football and now they are doing better without him. Is he an average manager who isn't flexible enough to find a formation that works at Stoke? (because with their squad on paper, most good managers would have them challenging, and good ones would walk the league).
Its no good having the cream of musicians in an orchestra if the conductor is shi te,rowett is cut from the same cloth as pulis and for me way overated
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Atomic on September 02, 2018, 11:53:44 AM
Stoke are screaming out for a couple of strikers. Berahino is about as useful as an arse without a hole and Crouch is about 104 years old. .......... and they're probably the best they have.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: HampshireBaggie on September 02, 2018, 12:14:57 PM
Stoke are screaming out for a couple of strikers. Berahino is about as useful as an arse without a hole and Crouch is about 104 years old. .......... and they're probably the best they have.

 ;D

Made me laugh this comment.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: AlbionFan on September 02, 2018, 12:35:27 PM
Stoke are screaming out for a couple of strikers. Berahino is about as useful as an arse without a hole and Crouch is about 104 years old. .......... and they're probably the best they have.

It is rather kardashianesq still, isn't it  ;D
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: alex1 on September 02, 2018, 08:12:01 PM
Oatcake is a good read today! This one made me smile.

Rowettball is like Pulisball, only with a square ball.

Read more: http://oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/282162/bromwich-albion-stoke-match-thread?page=6#ixzz5PyOvm6wq
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: tuamigos on September 03, 2018, 10:10:29 AM
Oatcake is a good read today! This one made me smile.

Rowettball is like Pulisball, only with a square ball.

Read more: http://oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/282162/bromwich-albion-stoke-match-thread?page=6#ixzz5PyOvm6wq

Really funny reading from page 16 when they missed the penalty
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Jeremy Roland Peace on September 03, 2018, 12:40:27 PM
Really funny reading from page 16 when they missed the penalty

not a happy bunch are they
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Aixelsyd on September 06, 2018, 10:40:06 AM
http://oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/282334/mcclean-broken-arm

not sure if they are happy or not...

Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: skyclad99 on September 06, 2018, 01:18:15 PM
http://oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/282334/mcclean-broken-arm

not sure if they are happy or not...

I don't think they are that bothered about James, more bothered about the fact that they have no wingers at all now.

They do make me smile - two weeks ago they were saying how awful James was, and before that absolutely slating Saido [until he may have scored a goal :)], and many of the team selections posted by fans for our game included both up front!

They are seriously worried about a double drop......
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Albionic on September 06, 2018, 01:28:18 PM
I think this is class

Peter and John Coates may as well have crap in a giant sock, swung it around their heads and splattered the fans in their own excrement as well as that pack of lies statement back in May.

Read more: http://oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/282334/mcclean-broken-arm#ixzz5QK9NjniX
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: AlbionFan on January 08, 2019, 10:19:52 AM
Stoke are looking for a new manager
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Black Country Pride on January 08, 2019, 10:50:03 AM
Stoke are looking for a new manager

Time for Pardew to make a comeback methinks  ;D
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Pie on January 09, 2019, 01:13:20 PM
They have appointed Nathan Jones from Luton.

Fair enough not appointing another merry go round manager like Moyes. I don't know much about Jones but its a big step up.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: SmethDan on January 09, 2019, 01:22:27 PM
They have appointed Nathan Jones from Luton.

Fair enough not appointing another merry go round manager like Moyes. I don't know much about Jones but its a big step up.

Not a big fan of phones apparently, or writing come to that either  ;D  ;) :

"You packed your bags as I recall
And you walked slowly down the hall
You said you had to get away to ease your mind
And all you needed was a little of time
Oh winter's passed spring and fall
You never rung me, you never called

Nathan Jones you've been gone too long
Gone too long

If a woman could die of tears
Nathan Jones, well, I wouldn't be here
The key that you're holding won't fit my door
And there's no room in my heart for you no more
Oh winter's passed spring and fall
You never rung me, you never called

Nathan Jones you've been gone too long
Gone too long
Nathan Jones

Oh winter's passed spring and fall
You never rung me, you never called
Nathan Jones you've been gone too long
Gone too long

Oh winter's passed spring and fall
You never rung me, you never called
Nathan Jones you've been gone too long
Gone too long".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSSpPkMlb98
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: FallOutBoy on January 09, 2019, 01:24:57 PM
They have appointed Nathan Jones from Luton.

Fair enough not appointing another merry go round manager like Moyes. I don't know much about Jones but its a big step up.

Seems to be a good, younger manager, the type many are going for now. Hopefully it doesn't work out for them  ;D
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: skyclad99 on January 09, 2019, 03:17:18 PM
Fair play to them for trying something new, a bit like us and Darren really...........

I seem to recall that Rowett was the 'man in demand' not so long ago, that went well didn't it?  ;D
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: liverbaggie on January 09, 2019, 04:28:38 PM
He was the future once.
What was his payoff for failure?
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: TheJacko2000 on January 12, 2019, 10:39:32 PM
New Manager Bounce... or Nah!!   :P
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: BalisPen on January 12, 2019, 11:19:02 PM
I sat in the halfords directly behind Jones against Luton and he's a small guy who jumps up and down a lot.

I can see the likes of degenerate Adam telling him to "f off little man I've played for Liverpool".

Be interesting to see how he does, but I hope he fails miserably as I hate Stoke.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: TheJacko2000 on January 12, 2019, 11:25:44 PM
I sat in the halfords directly behind Jones against Luton and he's a small guy who jumps up and down a lot.

I can see the likes of degenerate Adam telling him to "f off little man I've played for Liverpool".

Be interesting to see how he does, but I hope he fails miserably as I hate Stoke.


Their fans are genuinely worried about going down... Now where's Albionic??  ;D
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: BalisPen on January 12, 2019, 11:42:56 PM

Their fans are genuinely worried about going down... Now where's Albionic??  ;D

I love reading the Oatcake fansite it's funny as.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on January 15, 2019, 09:58:43 PM
Just lost to Shrewsbury at home.😁
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Black Country Pride on January 15, 2019, 10:03:17 PM
Just lost to Shrewsbury at home.😁

Wonderful stuff  ;D
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBASPE77 on January 15, 2019, 10:07:28 PM
Wonderful stuff  ;D

A club which is in a.mess from top to bottom. We gave them all our casts offs , spent millions on bang average players.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Black Country Pride on January 15, 2019, 10:13:11 PM
A club which is in a.mess from top to bottom. We gave them all our casts offs , spent millions on bang average players.

At least their fans are now getting to see lots of goals   :P Probably shouldn't gloat too much - we all know the script for when we have to go up there. Don't think we've beaten them away from home outside the top flight since 1931. Then again, we all know what happened that year  ;)
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: beechyboy90 on January 15, 2019, 10:17:04 PM
New manager 2 losses including at home against lower league opposition. Pressure building. They play Leeds on the weekend so we could do with them doing us a favour the clay heads
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Dan87uk on January 15, 2019, 10:36:22 PM
That result has definitely put a smile on my face this evening  ;D
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: caravanc58 on January 15, 2019, 11:50:07 PM
going for a peek on the oatcake, always good for a laugh.

told ya,1st thread I read, this is about Ince


He was total and utter dog**** tonight.

Professor Stephen Hawking would have caused them more problems...
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: skyclad99 on January 16, 2019, 07:31:19 AM
NJ is not copping the blame just yet..... give it 2 more games  ;D
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: BigFrank20 on January 16, 2019, 08:09:35 AM
Oh how I laughed  - and laughed - and laughed  :P :P :P
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Albionic on January 16, 2019, 09:26:20 AM

Their fans are genuinely worried about going down... Now where's Albionic??  ;D

I'm still here, long way to go yet, give it a couple of games and I may be admitting publically that I am wrong! meanwhile,  I will post on the Chris Brunt thread "Now where's Jacko?? and not hold my breath  :D :D
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: skyclad99 on January 16, 2019, 10:05:44 AM
Perhaps the lyrics to the Supremes song should be changed to ' Nathan Jones, you won't be there too long'....... ;D
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: hardtobeat on January 16, 2019, 10:18:25 AM
going for a peek on the oatcake, always good for a laugh.

told ya,1st thread I read, this is about Ince


He was total and utter dogshit tonight.

Professor Stephen Hawking would have caused them more problems...
They weren't too impressed with McClean either !! ;D
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Dan on February 09, 2019, 08:29:29 PM
I didn't realise just how much they'd spent this season, incomings of around 55m and outgoings of 20m - net spend of around 35m.

It's astonishing they're doing so badly, probably the most ever spent. I'm guessing all bankrolled by Coates.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: TheJacko2000 on February 09, 2019, 08:36:20 PM
I didn't realise just how much they'd spent this season, incomings of around 55m and outgoings of 20m - net spend of around 35m.

It's astonishing they're doing so badly, probably the most ever spent. I'm guessing all bankrolled by Coates.


They threw their parachute payment at Rowett. Some of the worst signings seen at this level.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: frazzle on February 09, 2019, 09:08:02 PM
I’d still take Woods.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: TheJacko2000 on February 09, 2019, 09:12:36 PM
I’d still take Woods.


Agree, would be a good understudy to Gaz Baz.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Standaman on February 10, 2019, 12:06:48 AM
Stoke have too many points already to be in real danger of relegation but that's ugly. They have mishmash of players from having and backing 4 different managers in less than 2 years. Jones at least does have a clear idea about how he wants to play and is trying to shoehorn them into a 4-4-2 diamond which frankly is probably as good as anything with such a disparate collection of "talent"

 He said post match that the performance the best he had seen from them since his arrival I haven't seen the rest but that is a pretty grim admission. 

Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: TheJacko2000 on February 10, 2019, 12:10:56 AM
Stoke have too many points already to be in real danger of relegation but that's ugly. They have mishmash of players from having and backing 4 different managers in less than 2 years. Jones at least does have a clear idea about how he wants to play and is trying to shoehorn them into a 4-4-2 diamond which frankly is probably as good as anything with such a disparate collection of "talent"

 He said post match that the performance the best he had seen from them since his arrival I haven't seen the rest but that is a pretty grim admission.


One of my predictions nobody is bringing up...
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: OldburyWBA on February 10, 2019, 11:27:47 AM

One of my predictions nobody is bringing up...

Congratulations, I guess theres many you have got wrong along with the rest of the forum who get some right and some wrong, after all there are a vast number of members on here, not all about you xx ;)
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: SmethDan on February 10, 2019, 04:22:00 PM

One of my predictions nobody is bringing up...

Throw enough darts at a board while wearing a blindfold and one or two are bound to hit it in the end  ;) .
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Dan87uk on February 16, 2019, 06:27:53 PM
and the meltdown continues...

http://oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/286261/nathan-absolute-nightmare-far?page=9 (http://oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/286261/nathan-absolute-nightmare-far?page=9)

 ;D
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: caravanc58 on February 16, 2019, 06:31:21 PM
and the meltdown continues...

http://oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/286261/nathan-absolute-nightmare-far?page=9 (http://oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/286261/nathan-absolute-nightmare-far?page=9)

 ;D
too busy laughing at the deluded seals on villa talk.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: elmo_in_swansea on July 27, 2019, 04:34:59 PM
bad looking injury to Shawcross this afternoon, saw a video nasty twist/break of his ankle
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: OldburyWBA on July 27, 2019, 04:46:40 PM
https://twitter.com/i/status/1155129679453523974 (https://twitter.com/i/status/1155129679453523974)

Yeah its a bad one
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: AlbionFan on July 27, 2019, 08:25:09 PM
That looked awful, not a big fan of Shawcross, but hope it’s not a career ending injury
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: timdon on August 17, 2019, 05:16:35 PM
Very poor start by Stoke, 2nd bottom as it stands. Would love it if these got relegated, but can't see it somehow.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: ex coseley kid on August 18, 2019, 09:31:46 AM
Very poor start by Stoke, 2nd bottom as it stands. Would love it if these got relegated, but can't see it somehow.

I think there is every chance of it.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: johnny Cash on August 18, 2019, 09:46:13 AM
I think there is every chance of it.

Odds on Pulis to go back and save them from relegation?

I can’t see them going down, but Nathan Jones could be the next managerial casualty. Stokes next league fixtures are Leeds (h)  Birmingham (a) Bristol (h) Brentford (a).

Lose the next two and he will be gone in the international break I reckon.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Baggies on August 18, 2019, 12:19:37 PM
They need to get going soon. They have signed so many players in the last 2 years and on paper have one of the strongest squads in the league, yet successive managers haven't been able to get them to click.

Fancy Leeds to beat them, and after that you wonder how long Jones will have left.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Pie on August 22, 2019, 09:50:23 AM
Another big loss for them last night. Wonder how much longer Jones will get.

Butland had a shocker of a game, 2 absolute clangers.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Standaman on August 22, 2019, 06:39:33 PM
Stoke are generally quite patient and the performances are better than the results would suggest but how long will that wash? My guess is that he will get until 2nd international break which is roughly 11 games into the season. I don't think Stoke would be happy to write off the season without at least a stab at a play-off place. 
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: skyclad99 on August 22, 2019, 07:31:55 PM
I have been on Oatcake today as I like to cheer myself up occasionally. Quite a few wanting Pulis back, and an equal amount very much against.

Desperate times call for desperate measures....
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: alex1 on August 22, 2019, 07:42:53 PM
I have been on Oatcake today as I like to cheer myself up occasionally. Quite a few wanting Pulis back, and an equal amount very much against.

Desperate times call for desperate measures....
He would probably keep them up, and for good measure come back here and beat us 1-0 with a header from a set piece.  :(
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Baggies on August 22, 2019, 11:23:59 PM
Stoke are generally quite patient and the performances are better than the results would suggest but how long will that wash? My guess is that he will get until 2nd international break which is roughly 11 games into the season. I don't think Stoke would be happy to write off the season without at least a stab at a play-off place.

I'd be shocked if they kept faith with him for that long is they are still in the relegation zone. I wouldn't be that shocked to see him sacked this weekend if they lose at home to Leeds. Chairmen get panicky very easily, especially with the money they spent last season.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: FallOutBoy on August 23, 2019, 09:02:47 AM
I have been on Oatcake today as I like to cheer myself up occasionally. Quite a few wanting Pulis back, and an equal amount very much against.

Desperate times call for desperate measures....

I don't care how desperate it got down The Albion, I still would never have him back.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: skyclad99 on August 23, 2019, 09:50:45 AM
I don't care how desperate it got down The Albion, I still would never have him back.

With you on that one, and I was all for him when he was appointed... never again, ever.

The thing is with Stoke is that he got them into the Premier League and Europe, as well as doing rather well in the FA cup. Something that they have never come close to since, so to some he is still highly thought of.........I can see it happening to be honest and you can guarantee he will sort them out and they will do a number on us.... :(
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Black Country Pride on September 24, 2019, 10:37:29 PM
Oh dear  ;D
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: lewisant on September 24, 2019, 10:57:29 PM
Have they go Pulis on the line yet?!
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Dynamo10 on September 25, 2019, 11:14:21 AM
Have they go Pulis on the line yet?!

I was wondering that myself! Do you think they're still that desperate on the Oatcake...?  ;D
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on September 25, 2019, 03:12:27 PM
I’d love Jones to stay. Laugh my balls off should they get relegated

He’ll be sacked after the weekend
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: kris_boing on September 26, 2019, 07:31:15 AM
Shame we don't play them until early November. He'll be gone by then.

But I'm just hoping 'you know who' won't turn up in his place............
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: iwastherein68 on September 28, 2019, 08:21:02 PM
The Oatcake has a West Bromwich Albion thread, with Stokies casting envious glances in our direction.......love it.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBAinDEVON on September 29, 2019, 07:56:55 PM
The Oatcake has a West Bromwich Albion thread, with Stokies casting envious glances in our direction.......love it.



http://oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/290847/west-bromwich-albion.

Cheers clayheads
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: alex1 on October 01, 2019, 10:11:09 PM
Not looking good for the Stokies. Beaten again at home. 
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: caravanc58 on October 01, 2019, 10:15:21 PM
Not looking good for the Stokies. Beaten again at home.
think tonight's game was last chance saloon for N Jones. surprised they've been this patient.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: skyclad99 on October 01, 2019, 10:18:13 PM
think tonight's game was last chance saloon for N Jones. surprised they've been this patient.

I think he will get the Spanish now.

I am sure I saw Tonys phone vibrating in his top pocket when he was on Sky.....
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: skyclad99 on October 02, 2019, 08:02:10 AM
Oatcake is quite amusing this morning.

Most have come to the conclusion that the third coming is required...……..
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Hull Baggie on October 02, 2019, 08:55:07 AM
Oatcake is quite amusing this morning.

Most have come to the conclusion that the third coming is required...……..

Indeed for those wanting to read a bit here's the topic (from page 69 onwards)

http://oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/290173/manager-speculation-bowyer-hughton-pardew?page=69
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on October 02, 2019, 11:15:21 AM
Saw his post match conference last night - looked very much like a resignation speech.

I personally hope he remains until after we've played them.

I'd wee myself silly if they appointed that clown Pardew.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: WBAinDEVON on October 02, 2019, 12:11:24 PM
I think he will get the Spanish now.

I am sure I saw Tonys phone vibrating in his top pocket when he was on Sky.....


probably why he was bigging up their owners
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: KN22 on October 02, 2019, 12:50:39 PM
Saw his post match conference last night - looked very much like a resignation speech.

I personally hope he remains until after we've played them.

I'd wee myself silly if they appointed that clown Pardew.

Yes, and I'd wee myself even more if they go for Pulis..... we can but hope.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: AlbionFan on October 02, 2019, 07:19:29 PM
I would be mightily surprised if Peter Coats appointed either Pulis or Pardew, personally
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Hull Baggie on October 03, 2019, 02:54:26 PM
I would be mightily surprised if Peter Coats appointed either Pulis or Pardew, personally

Pardew I'd be surprised at but not Pulis. Stoke are in exactly the sort of position that Pulis specialises in. I don't know what his relationship with Coates is like though and whether they could work together.

Sadly Jones seems hellbent on leaving after pretty much admitting he can't make things better.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on October 03, 2019, 03:12:38 PM
I can't see Stoke sacking their manager.
Perhaps they are broke and can't afford the payoff.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: mulliganstired on October 03, 2019, 03:14:18 PM
Maybe Pulis first, then Pardew in a while when they get fed up with him, although what sort of club would be mad enough to do that? :-X
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Jeremy Roland Peace on October 03, 2019, 06:13:48 PM
I can't see Stoke sacking their manager.
Perhaps they are broke and can't afford the payoff.

guessing they won't sack him until a replacement is sorted.
presuming the whole backroom would go as well and they don't have faith in any of that to be caretaker manager.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Floydy on October 04, 2019, 09:09:09 AM
I would be mightily surprised if Peter Coats appointed either Pulis or Pardew, personally

Peter Coates is a huge personal friend of Pulis
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: skyclad99 on October 04, 2019, 09:23:47 AM
Peter Coates is a huge personal friend of Pulis

He is indeed, as he told everyone on Sky the other night. I can see Pulis returning, even the clayheads realise that is one of the very few options available.

Jones is out of his depth. He knows it and has literally said as much. I am just amazed that he still has a job.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: zippyandbungle on October 04, 2019, 10:35:33 AM
He is indeed, as he told everyone on Sky the other night. I can see Pulis returning, even the clayheads realise that is one of the very few options available.

Jones is out of his depth. He knows it and has literally said as much. I am just amazed that he still has a job.
Wouldn’t the natural step be pullis in as DOF , Coates can then have some time to see if jones can make it...whilst having TP on 24 hr call
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: skyclad99 on October 04, 2019, 10:39:05 AM
Wouldn’t the natural step be pullis in as DOF , Coates can then have some time to see if jones can make it...whilst having TP on 24 hr call

Maybe, but from his body language the other night I don't think Jones wants to be there.

He has certainly lost the supporters and judging by their performances on the pitch, I don't think he has too many friends in the dressing room either.

Can you actually see Pulis working with anyone in that arrangement? He will want to control everything.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: zippyandbungle on October 04, 2019, 03:31:40 PM
Maybe, but from his body language the other night I don't think Jones wants to be there.

He has certainly lost the supporters and judging by their performances on the pitch, I don't think he has too many friends in the dressing room either.

Can you actually see Pulis working with anyone in that arrangement? He will want to control everything.
Yes
Ultimately he knows he will have control, but by coming in and “helping”...either they get better.....down to him
Or get worse.....nothing to do with him but think god he’s on hand to take over 😄
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: johnny Cash on October 04, 2019, 04:40:46 PM
It is very strange that they haven't sacked him yet.

I imagine it will be after the weekend so that they have the international break, but what if by some fluke he pulls off a convincing win. Are they then forced to stick until the next defeat?

If they pull the trigger anyway there will surely be some negative press about how they've handled it because going by the interview the other night, stringing him along is almost cruel.

Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: kirk on October 04, 2019, 04:56:34 PM
Story that Chris Hughton turned them down so they are probably lining up a replacement before pulling the trigger
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: AlbionFan on October 05, 2019, 12:25:46 PM
Peter Coates is a huge personal friend of Pulis

Yes agreed, but didn’t Coats sack him twice?

Some personal friend if he did.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: costa blanca baggie on October 05, 2019, 01:04:47 PM
Yes agreed, but didn’t Coats sack him twice?

Some personal friend if he did.
I’d happily work for the worst boss ever if he paid me a small fortune for not coming up to scratch.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Hull Baggie on October 07, 2019, 12:06:53 PM
Was certainly an unexpected result.
I watched his interview after the game on Quest and thought it was a little strange as he was complaining about how the media have portrayed him and the players. I think he must have forgotten the interviews he has given where he has said that he didn't think he could change things around etc, and seemed to be asking to be sacked.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: johnny Cash on October 07, 2019, 12:21:27 PM
Was certainly an unexpected result.
I watched his interview after the game on Quest and thought it was a little strange as he was complaining about how the media have portrayed him and the players. I think he must have forgotten the interviews he has given where he has said that he didn't think he could change things around etc, and seemed to be asking to be sacked.

I saw that. I did feel a little sorry for him last week, but I'm not sure I will again. There was a degree of arrogance, vanity and smugness I just didn't like.  From I've not been good enough and I've let the owners down, to look how fantastic I am and I knew it all along. 

Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: AlbionFan on October 07, 2019, 07:31:08 PM
Was certainly an unexpected result.
I watched his interview after the game on Quest and thought it was a little strange as he was complaining about how the media have portrayed him and the players. I think he must have forgotten the interviews he has given where he has said that he didn't think he could change things around etc, and seemed to be asking to be sacked.

Typical of a political stance, no doubt advised to do so by politicians (small p)
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Dan87uk on November 01, 2019, 12:09:34 PM
They've just sacked Nathan Jones...

Hopefully no replacement comes in until AFTER our game on Monday but we'll see.

Stoke fans over on the oatcake arguing amongst themselves about wanting Pulis back or not and scared to death it will be Pardew instead  ;D
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: skyclad99 on November 01, 2019, 12:15:51 PM
They've just sacked Nathan Jones...

Hopefully no replacement comes in until AFTER our game on Monday but we'll see.

Stoke fans over on the oatcake arguing amongst themselves about wanting Pulis back or not and scared to death it will be Pardew instead  ;D


Only person for the job - Toxic Tone will sort them out. Couldn't happen to a nicer club...….[except the vile of course]
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: mulliganstired on November 01, 2019, 12:32:27 PM
They've just sacked Nathan Jones...

Hopefully no replacement comes in until AFTER our game on Monday but we'll see.

Stoke fans over on the oatcake arguing amongst themselves about wanting Pulis back or not and scared to death it will be Pardew instead  ;D

Why not have both, what a Dream Team
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Dynamo10 on November 01, 2019, 12:48:25 PM
Got a feeling that Pulis will turn up back there. Just our luck if he's put in charge for Monday!
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: AlbionFan on November 01, 2019, 01:03:15 PM
I said earlier in this thread that I would be surprised if Coates went for either, Pulis or Pardew.

Big Sam and Moyes springs to mind for me that will be considered
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: KN22 on November 01, 2019, 01:06:26 PM
Lets be honest. Whether they go for Pulis or not, it shouldn't affect the outcome on Monday. Pulis and Stoke...….. a match made in heaven! ;D
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: TheJacko2000 on November 01, 2019, 01:20:51 PM
This will be a draw now. Was extremely confident with NJ in charge.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: KN22 on November 01, 2019, 02:15:54 PM
This will be a draw now. Was extremely confident with NJ in charge.

 Let’s remain confident. It’s still his team.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Windmill Baggy on November 01, 2019, 02:50:15 PM
This will be a draw now. Was extremely confident with NJ in charge.

I'm more confident about Monday than I was before the Charlton match, which I predicted would be a draw. Perhaps the sacking will actually have more of a short term negative effect on them anyway, will they change system/style of play?
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: BigFrank20 on November 01, 2019, 05:28:36 PM
will they change system/style of play?
According to the Oatcake they don't have a system or style of play  :P
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: AlbionFan on November 01, 2019, 05:39:04 PM
Chris Hughton in the frame
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Hunnington Baggie on November 01, 2019, 05:53:11 PM
Chris Hughton in the frame
id heard he doesn’t want to drop down to Champ level again, Bowyer an option.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: boinging_along on November 01, 2019, 05:56:50 PM
Pardew Pardew Pardew
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: AlbionFan on November 01, 2019, 06:00:54 PM
id heard he doesn’t want to drop down to Champ level again, Bowyer an option.

He’s not going to get a PL job anytime soon imo  8)
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: mulliganstired on November 01, 2019, 08:35:28 PM
Rudderless Stoke 1 Bilic's West Brom 0


I can see it now  >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on November 01, 2019, 08:37:27 PM
Rudderless Stoke 1 Bilic's West Brom 0


I can see it now  >:( >:( >:(
Yeah.
We love the underdogs.  :(
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Hull Baggie on November 02, 2019, 09:40:37 AM
Michael O'Neill and as a longshot Alex Neil being mentioned. O'Neill the favourite.

https://www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/stoke-city-next-manager-new-3494671
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: wbarenno on November 02, 2019, 01:50:24 PM
Alex Neil taking the job according to talksport . Strange decision for m him
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: seteefeet on November 02, 2019, 02:12:21 PM
Alex Neil taking the job according to talksport . Strange decision for m him
Preston knocked them back
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Dan87uk on November 02, 2019, 04:27:59 PM
Illegal approach potentially too so they've been reported by Preston. Amusing

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/50274819 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/50274819)

As an aside, even if they had allowd the approach he would be insane to leave Preston in their current position to go to the basket case that is Stoke
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on November 04, 2019, 10:32:14 PM
Stoke fans don't deserve Pulisball.
Surely there is someone out there who has a footballing brain.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: timdon on November 04, 2019, 10:55:02 PM
Stoke fans don't deserve Pulisball.
Surely there is someone out there who has a footballing brain.
They really do  ;D
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on November 04, 2019, 11:09:54 PM
They really do  ;D
You little ***** !  ;D
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: AlbionFan on November 11, 2019, 07:48:37 AM
Coates was never going to appoint either Pulis or Pardew.

I was surprised at Michael O’Neil though. I like him, but wasn’t convinced he was the right man for us when his name was being linked.

He got Stoke off to a flyer on Saturday, new manage bounce I suspect and time will tell if he has what it takes at club football level in EFL
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Hull Baggie on November 11, 2019, 09:37:29 AM
Coates was never going to appoint either Pulis or Pardew.

I was surprised at Michael O’Neil though. I like him, but wasn’t convinced he was the right man for us when his name was being linked.

He got Stoke off to a flyer on Saturday, new manage bounce I suspect and time will tell if he has what it takes at club football level in EFL

Like you I didn't think he was the right man for us. It'll be interesting to see how he does in this division (same as Danny Cowley).
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Norfolk Baggie on November 11, 2019, 12:27:15 PM
Usually we play teams just on the Manager bounce, luckily for us we played them just before the bounce for once!  I think Stoke will be fine now, but will not do spectacularly well.  Difficult to see how they reached this point with the squad they have.  However, no one is too good to go down.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Dynamo10 on November 11, 2019, 05:03:21 PM
It's a massive job for O'Neil, though I suspect he'll be another scapegoat up there. Far too many issues at that club...not that I'm complaining ;)
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Adder on November 11, 2019, 05:39:11 PM
It's a massive job for O'Neil, though I suspect he'll be another scapegoat up there. Far too many issues at that club...not that I'm complaining ;)
What are the issues ? On the face of it they seem to have relatively stable and wealthy ownership...their recruitment seems their main issue of course.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: zippyandbungle on November 11, 2019, 09:22:10 PM
Coates was never going to appoint either Pulis or Pardew.

I was surprised at Michael O’Neil though. I like him, but wasn’t convinced he was the right man for us when his name was being linked.

He got Stoke off to a flyer on Saturday, new manage bounce I suspect and time will tell if he has what it takes at club football level in EFL
I’m not sure he did....
To me the team showed exactly the lack of respect/application they had for Jones .
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Standaman on November 13, 2019, 06:16:15 AM
What are the issues ? On the face of it they seem to have relatively stable and wealthy ownership...their recruitment seems their main issue of course.

They are on their 4th manager in 2 years the squad is an aging and very expensive mess nobody at the club seems to have a clear idea about the playing style they wish to pursue. They are very unlikely to get into the play-offs this year and they will be going into the final year of parachute payments next season having not even come close to challenging for promotion in the previous two. That is as about as bad as a position as it is possible to be in for a recently relegated club.

To be in that position is testimony to something not being quite right behind the scenes and while the Coates family is wealthy and hugely successful in business you have to question some of their decision making purely on the grounds of the position the club finds itself. 
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Adder on November 13, 2019, 07:12:54 AM
They are on their 4th manager in 2 years the squad is an aging and very expensive mess nobody at the club seems to have a clear idea about the playing style they wish to pursue. They are very unlikely to get into the play-offs this year and they will be going into the final year of parachute payments next season having not even come close to challenging for promotion in the previous two. That is as about as bad as a position as it is possible to be in for a recently relegated club.

To be in that position is testimony to something not being quite right behind the scenes and while the Coates family is wealthy and hugely successful in business you have to question some of their decision making purely on the grounds of the position the club finds itself.
All fair comment. Of course the Coates family's decisions have to be questioned. Also big questions about the technical director and recruitment side of things. Seems Mark Cartwright was tech director from 2012 - Sept 2019 covering the Hughes, Lambert, Rowett, Jones periods so that would mean that Michael O'Neil is the first appointment made since his departure. It will be interesting to see how they go under O'Neil.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: BalisPen on November 23, 2019, 07:46:28 PM
Two wins out of two, my hopes for a Chris Coleman type of appointment at Blunderland haven't been realised.

Wouldn't surprise me if they sneak into the play offs.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Albionic on November 30, 2019, 11:30:21 PM
Sjokies are not a tolerant lot, how many days has Oneill been there? This from the pancake

The manager’s job is to motivate our best players to do their best for the club.

O’Neill won’t be able to motivate them if he is still trying in 50 year’s time.

I don’t know how the Board do it but they need to jettison him straightaway


Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: BigFrank20 on December 03, 2019, 12:37:26 PM
http://oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/292303/why-west-brom-top-bottom
Enjoy
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: caravanc58 on December 03, 2019, 12:48:29 PM
http://oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/292303/why-west-brom-top-bottom
Enjoy
So many funny comments it's hard to pick the best one out but

They recruit well and sell they're crap further up the M6.
Always a good read.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: TheJacko2000 on December 03, 2019, 12:58:27 PM
Like how they've convinced themselves Dowling is the brains here 😂
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: SmethDan on December 03, 2019, 01:01:37 PM
http://oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/292303/why-west-brom-top-bottom
Enjoy

Superb read, cheers  8) .
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: wbastrollers on December 03, 2019, 01:58:01 PM
No one mentioned - lucky!

Good read  :D
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Black Country Pride on December 03, 2019, 02:10:56 PM
Wonderful  ;D
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: Standaman on December 04, 2019, 06:50:08 AM
The James McLean signing 2 summers ago summed it up. £6m for a very limited 29 year old winger on a lucrative 4 year contract. That is not the act of a well run forward thinking football club. If you are the selling club you can pat yourself on the back.
Title: Re: Anything Stoke
Post by: SmethDan on December 04, 2019, 08:54:52 AM
I think the Berahino transfer probably summed their dealings up at least equally as well.
Title: A question from our friends up the M6.
Post by: Wigmore on December 04, 2019, 04:22:34 PM
http://oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/292303/why-west-brom-top-bottom

Some surprisingly complimentary comments amongst the angst.

e.g "superb Luke Dowling...." :o