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Title: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
Post by: wimbledon baggie on March 18, 2019, 03:28:41 PM
Saw him at Brighton and was not that impressed but yesterdays goal was all about speed and good feet.

Well done Shan for playing him.
Title: Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
Post by: richjonawba on March 18, 2019, 04:09:35 PM
Was played totally out of position in centre midfield at Brighton in fairness. Another Moore/Jones master stroke
Title: Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
Post by: Hayward1984 on March 18, 2019, 04:12:19 PM
Great goal for Exeter in the play off final last season too.
Title: Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
Post by: AlbionFan on March 18, 2019, 04:55:03 PM
If his performance on Saturday was indicative of his talent, he should have been more regularly involved on the pitch
Title: Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
Post by: divinewind on March 18, 2019, 05:07:16 PM
People call him a youngster but he is 20 or 21. Hope, Bennett, Statham, Hartford, Robertson etc were thrown in at 16 or 17 against the likes of Man United.
I hope he is a talent, but sometimes we get players who only spark every 6 or 7 games.

Fingers crossed for the lad.
Title: Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
Post by: WBAinDEVON on March 18, 2019, 05:52:35 PM
wasnt some saying the same about Harper a few weeks back
Title: Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
Post by: Wigmore on March 18, 2019, 06:24:45 PM
People call him a youngster but he is 20 or 21. Hope, Bennett, Statham, Hartford, Robertson etc were thrown in at 16 or 17 against the likes of Man United.
I hope he is a talent, but sometimes we get players who only spark every 6 or 7 games.
Fingers crossed for the lad.
Just turned 21 in February.
I think the days of throwing 16 year olds into the Premier League are long gone, unless the player is truly exceptional (e.g. Rooney).
Young players need careful handling, as Scotty Darton would no doubt testify.
As you will remember Statham played a stormer and scored on his debut and was rested for the next seven games.
Let's hope he is half as good as another kid from Dudley called Edwards.

Title: Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
Post by: Adder on March 18, 2019, 09:56:11 PM
I've only seen the clips of Saturday's game and saw him when he came on against Reading. Certainly seems to have something about him. I liked the way he simply slotted the ball to Hegazi in space after doing a couple of twists and turns on the left...showed some awareness and game sense. It proved a good selection by Shan who must know him well and a kick up the backside for Murphy also.
Hopefully the thread gets renamed to something more standard soonish.
Title: Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
Post by: Dexy on March 18, 2019, 10:25:57 PM
Saw him at Brighton and was not that impressed but yesterdays goal was all about speed and good feet.

Well done Shan for playing him.
Had to play out of position at CM that day , he did well I thought.
Title: Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on March 19, 2019, 01:21:23 PM
I thought he was excellent on Saturday.  Had a ten minute spell after his goal where he looked on top of the world.

I was surprised to see him involved but it paid off. I hope we see more of him.
Title: Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
Post by: kris_boing on March 19, 2019, 01:28:37 PM
wasnt some saying the same about Harper a few weeks back

..and Leko two seasons ago.
Title: Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
Post by: Atomic on March 19, 2019, 01:33:21 PM
..and Leko two seasons ago.


Leko is nowhere near as good as Edwards.
Title: Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
Post by: Mister AT on March 19, 2019, 02:22:15 PM
He seems to have the pace and tricky like Leko, but where he differs is he seems to have more of an end product.

How many times have we seen Leko come on, drift past a player to go back and try to go past him again.

Since pre season when he seemed to figure heavily, I thought we would see A LOT more of Kyle this season, very surprised hes been limited to 1/2 appearances in all honesty. If Saturdays performance is anything to go by then we may have missed a trick in not featuring him more often.

I would prefer to see him playing right wing than a loanee anyway.
Title: Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
Post by: SmethDan on March 19, 2019, 02:30:25 PM
He seems to have the pace and tricky like Leko, but where he differs is he seems to have more of an end product.

How many times have we seen Leko come on, drift past a player to go back and try to go past him again.

Since pre season when he seemed to figure heavily, I thought we would see A LOT more of Kyle this season, very surprised hes been limited to 1/2 appearances in all honesty. If Saturdays performance is anything to go by then WE may have missed a trick in not featuring him more often.

I would prefer to see him playing right wing than a loanee anyway.

In fairness I don't think it was us who missed the trick. It was the person or people who insisted on shoehorning players into a system as opposed to playing to the strengths of the resources at their disposal.
Title: Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
Post by: mig on March 19, 2019, 09:23:20 PM
Let's not forget Edwards has a couple of years on Leko so we shouldn't write off the latter yet. I actually think Leko is the more gifted of the two and if he improves his decision-making (which you'd expect to come with experience) then we could well have some player on our hands.

I'd love to see them both become fixtures here.
Title: Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on March 19, 2019, 09:41:57 PM
Let's not forget Edwards has a couple of years on Leko so we shouldn't write off the latter yet. I actually think Leko is the more gifted of the two and if he improves his decision-making (which you'd expect to come with experience) then we could well have some player on our hands.

I'd love to see them both become fixtures here.

Edwards benefits from playing first team football on his loan spells - to be honest, it shows

Leko needs to learn his trade just like Edwards previously.

At that point then we should make a decision on his future here
Title: Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
Post by: GREGMT on April 06, 2019, 08:16:55 PM
Not introduced at all.  It just doesn’t make any sense with the continued absence of Phillips. 

People are saying for Harper it’s contract related.  So what is the reason for Edwards?a

Title: Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
Post by: TheJacko2000 on April 06, 2019, 08:19:05 PM
Not introduced at all.  It just doesn’t make any sense with the continued absence of Phillips. 

People are saying for Harper it’s contract related.  So what is the reason for Edwards?a


Can only assume he was rested after a mediocre performance and Shan thought he was protecting him in some way by not sending him on into today's crisis.
Title: Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
Post by: Adder on April 06, 2019, 08:34:19 PM
I think you have to have one player in the team capable of going past a couple of defenders especially when you are looking to win every game. At the moment Edwards looks the best bet...and seems to link up tidily as well when there's nothing on. Very one dimensional team selection.
Title: Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
Post by: OldburyWBA on April 06, 2019, 08:50:53 PM

Can only assume he was rested after a mediocre performance and Shan thought he was protecting him in some way by not sending him on into today's crisis.

More likely HRK is fit and so back to the experienced players regardless

As for the mediocre performance, against Blues he was the only one first half who seemed to care, chased everything whilst others stood and watched
Title: Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
Post by: TheJacko2000 on April 06, 2019, 08:52:36 PM
More likely HRK is fit and so back to the experienced players regardless


Many would say Kanu earned his start after his previous performance. I'm not one of them by the way.
Title: Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
Post by: Atomic on April 06, 2019, 08:55:01 PM

Many would say Kanu earned his start after his previous performance. I'm not one of them by the way.


It's horses for courses. Kanu has his part to play but he's not the type of player we should be relying on on a consistent basis.
Title: Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
Post by: AlbionBest on April 07, 2019, 07:38:15 PM

Many would say Kanu earned his start after his previous performance. I'm not one of them by the way.

Trouble is, he's usually woeful  when he starts but yesterday he was worse than that even. Couldn't even do the basics correctly.
Much better when he comes on from the bench for some strange really ?
Title: Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
Post by: SmethDan on June 27, 2019, 01:50:41 PM
Big season for the lad and out of contract next June. I really hope we've made him a realistic offer and play him more often as I don't want another Rekeem Harper/Tyler Roberts scenario.
Title: Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
Post by: MarkW on June 27, 2019, 05:00:28 PM
Can we keep this about Edwards, please. We have a thread for discussing the U23s
Title: Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
Post by: Adder on June 27, 2019, 05:34:59 PM
Big season for the lad and out of contract next June. I really hope we've made him a realistic offer and play him more often as I don't want another Rekeem Harper/Tyler Roberts scenario.
Yes to playing him more often, he looks pretty decent. I hope Bilic takes the selection attitude of if in doubt have faith in the youngster and play him/them.
Title: Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
Post by: elkiellis on July 21, 2019, 09:33:24 PM
i have a feeling he is going to have a great season,our best player in the first half v villareal didn't seem to push forward as much 2nd half without gibbs behind him,and overall our best player v Scunthorpe yesterday,he is like lighting and as good control with ball at his feet
Title: Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
Post by: cads_ap_albion on July 22, 2019, 07:54:41 PM
If he doesn't play much, he will be gone.

He was pretty fed up with not getting more time last season.
Title: Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
Post by: Mister AT on July 22, 2019, 07:56:24 PM
i have a feeling he is going to have a great season,our best player in the first half v villareal didn't seem to push forward as much 2nd half without gibbs behind him,and overall our best player v Scunthorpe yesterday,he is like lighting and as good control with ball at his feet

Has become our best academy product at the moment, I would put him ahead of Leko and Field.

Happy to see him involved more this year 100%
Title: Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
Post by: lewisant on July 22, 2019, 08:08:37 PM
It was weird how he disappeared a bit almost directly after a few good performances and a goal.
Title: Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
Post by: mulliganstired on July 22, 2019, 09:33:50 PM
It was weird how he disappeared a bit almost directly after a few good performances and a goal.
Cowardice from the manager(s) at the time, always going back to the steady old boys.
Title: Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
Post by: BalisPen on July 22, 2019, 11:11:55 PM
He's like a modern day Lloyd Dyer, who is unplayable intermittently.
Title: Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
Post by: Dexy on July 22, 2019, 11:29:50 PM
He's like a modern day Lloyd Dyer, who is unplayable intermittently.
Much more about him than Dyer with respect , always stood out when I've seen him playing for U23's .
Desperate for a run of games here or elsewhere , personally think he's ready for us now.
Title: Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
Post by: boingboing1989 on July 23, 2019, 12:52:02 AM
He's like a modern day Lloyd Dyer, who is unplayable intermittently.
Leko is more of a Lloyd Dyer than Edwards, Edwards seems to have a lot more to his game thab just beating a man. Really needs game time with us this season and didn't look out of place at all in any of the games he played including when he was thrown in as right wing back.

Certainly needs to be coming off the bench as an impact player.
Title: Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
Post by: beechyboy90 on July 23, 2019, 01:09:44 AM
Him and Burke need to be given a chance this season. Leko on the other hand needs a full season in league 1 to resurrect his career
Title: Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
Post by: Mister AT on July 23, 2019, 08:42:18 AM
Him and Burke need to be given a chance this season. Leko on the other hand needs a full season in league 1 to resurrect his career

Spot on about Leko, the kids development has stalled massively, he needs a season of football now to see if he can actually cut it or not.

Edwards for me is ready to be around the first team now, getting game time. Hasn't looked out of place in any of the games he has featured in, and looks a threat in pre season again.

Burke looked sharp the weekend also - still have doubts about what his best position is.
Title: Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
Post by: BalisPen on July 23, 2019, 12:03:53 PM
Leko is more of a Lloyd Dyer than Edwards, Edwards seems to have a lot more to his game thab just beating a man. Really needs game time with us this season and didn't look out of place at all in any of the games he played including when he was thrown in as right wing back.

Certainly needs to be coming off the bench as an impact player.

I think my opinion of Dyer has been misunderstood.

He had a very long, good career and on his day he was unplayable.

That's the impression I get of Edward, who I have seen play at u23 level too, where he was usually overshadowed by Rayhon Tulloch when I watched them play.

In relation to Leko, you cannot compare him to Dyer, as he cannot even lace his boots yet, as he has done absolutely nothing in the game.

He needs to go down to league one or two play games. The impression I get with Leko is that he thought he had made it when he signed his last, long contract.
Title: Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
Post by: TheBrom on July 23, 2019, 11:09:38 PM
Matt Wilson posted a picture on Twitter of Bilic spending some time on the pitch (presumably after the game?) talking with Edwards. Hopefully he'll be in the picture a bit more this year; at least seems to be getting attention from the head coach.

https://twitter.com/mattwilson_star/status/1153766415209512964
Title: Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
Post by: Wbamitch on August 09, 2019, 05:49:51 PM
Looked our biggest threat the majority of pre season and was a top 2 or 3 performer last week - great to see him get the goal to cap off his performance.

I hope Edwards is still given a good chance this season, of course there will be rotation and time will tell how consistent he can be but with the influx of players in his position it is a little worry of mine that he may take a backseat to the players with bigger reputations.

Good sign that him and Ferguson were put straight in last week in what was a potentially very dificult opener.
Title: Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
Post by: The Joust on August 10, 2019, 06:46:49 PM
Class again today. Maybe should have been subbed, legs seemed to go a bit but ran his socks off, the lad
Title: Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
Post by: alex1 on August 10, 2019, 06:49:25 PM
Another strong performance today. Looks very powerful on the ball, running at defenders, but also showing trickery to put defenders off balance.
Title: Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
Post by: elkiellis on August 10, 2019, 07:54:49 PM
some fantastic skill in the first half today,does tend to start his runs to deep if we can feed him the ball further up the pitch on the shoulder of the last defender he will be devasting
Title: Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
Post by: Wbamitch on August 10, 2019, 08:36:32 PM
some fantastic skill in the first half today,does tend to start his runs to deep if we can feed him the ball further up the pitch on the shoulder of the last defender he will be devasting

Good point regarding the runs, obviously very difficult defence to break through today but he certainly looked to be the key, particularly first half. A couple of fantastic balls into the box that hopefully an in form Austin can get on the end of, pleased to see he looks comfortable going either way, will continue to pose a lot of problems.
Title: Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
Post by: iwastherein68 on August 10, 2019, 08:43:21 PM
Good lad, here's to a long and successful career at the club.Will have to get used to the idea that there will undoubtedly be some rotation of players this season and he will have to scrap for his place.
Title: Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
Post by: liverbaggie on August 10, 2019, 10:20:02 PM
Dare I say he reminds me of a young Clive Clark.
So he'd better prepare himself for some dirty tackles coming his way.
He's a great talent and so is young Fergie,
Title: Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
Post by: Nice1Cyrille on August 11, 2019, 07:03:54 PM
Looks more confident every game. More game time and decent coaching will make this young man a success at the Hawthorns.
You can see how much he is enjoying first team duties compared to the stop/start of  last season.
Title: Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
Post by: Jeremy Roland Peace on August 12, 2019, 08:25:46 AM
i thought he didn't look that great on Saturday, maybe that could have been how the team were playing.

there is definitely a player in there for us in the future unlike Leko but i think he needs to be used sporadically this season to help his development.

the new loan players i can envisage taking his spot in the team.
Title: Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
Post by: Mister AT on August 12, 2019, 08:47:19 AM
He's starting to look like the player I thought Leko was going to become.

He is looking more comfortable with first team football and doesn't look out of place. Gives us a real threat from the wing.

Title: Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
Post by: hardtobeat on August 12, 2019, 08:52:34 AM
i thought he didn't look that great on Saturday, maybe that could have been how the team were playing.

there is definitely a player in there for us in the future unlike Leko but i think he needs to be used sporadically this season to help his development.

the new loan players i can envisage taking his spot in the team.
Agree with this .Keep him fresh almost naive so as every time he plays he is ready to bomb on. No reason why this can't be done now as we have plenty of cover in those positions.
Title: Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
Post by: FallOutBoy on August 12, 2019, 12:49:44 PM
There were a couple of times when he was caught out by his inexperience, but he was very good for the most part. Loved the passing triangles with Gibbs and Krovinovic.
Title: Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
Post by: elkiellis on August 12, 2019, 08:46:31 PM
i thought he didn't look that great on Saturday, maybe that could have been how the team were playing.

there is definitely a player in there for us in the future unlike Leko but i think he needs to be used sporadically this season to help his development.

the new loan players i can envisage taking his spot in the team.
I had him down as the best player on the pitch in the first half,some incredible ball skills
Title: Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
Post by: Marcus on August 12, 2019, 09:49:09 PM
I hope we've started contract discussions, seeing as he has less than a year left
Title: Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
Post by: beechyboy90 on August 17, 2019, 07:20:59 PM
Has had a good start to the season. Although wasn't as good today.

My worry is with Phillips periera diangana and willock that eventually he might not keep getting game time. We do have a lot of options on the flanks. If he is going to drop down the ranks we should take advantage of loan market again and get him out. Window closes in a few weeks.
Title: Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
Post by: TheJacko2000 on August 17, 2019, 09:00:29 PM
Has had a good start to the season. Although wasn't as good today.

My worry is with Phillips periera diangana and willock that eventually he might not keep getting game time. We do have a lot of options on the flanks. If he is going to drop down the ranks we should take advantage of loan market again and get him out. Window closes in a few weeks.


He either has to step up his game or spend time on the substitutes bench.
Title: Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
Post by: jamesh_91 on August 17, 2019, 09:13:06 PM
Kyle just needs to work on his end product once he has committed his man. He has great ability to dribble and carry the ball at pace.
Title: Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
Post by: alex1 on August 18, 2019, 12:44:51 AM
Think he's had an excellent start to the season. I had him down as man of the Match of the Match v Forest. He has an excellent burst of pace combined with power on the ball. Just needs to improve his crossing.
Title: Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
Post by: richjonawba on August 18, 2019, 06:36:07 AM
I thought he was the better out of the two wingers first half. Phillips was poor all game, not looking to run at defenders at all, whereas Edwards was trying to get past defenders and put balls across. Thought he was unlucky to go off rather than Phillips. Certainly turned out to be the right sub though.
Title: Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
Post by: bradleysrocket on August 18, 2019, 10:17:49 AM
He appears to be one of those players who has to do everything at speed. I think at the crucial times he could do with just slowing down a touch and really giving himself some time with his crosses. Excellent and getting to that point but always looks rushed in his delivery.
Title: Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
Post by: beechyboy90 on January 25, 2020, 10:24:39 PM
Did good today and needs tying down he might not make the Jump to top level straight away but if we go up another season on loan at a championship club good see his development further
Title: Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
Post by: mulliganstired on January 25, 2020, 10:46:32 PM
He appears to be one of those players who has to do everything at speed. I think at the crucial times he could do with just slowing down a touch and really giving himself some time with his crosses. Excellent and getting to that point but always looks rushed in his delivery.
But doing things at speed is exactly what we needed against Stoke, for example, I don't understand why he didn't come on then, he might be a bit headless but at least he tries to get past his man and will put the defence on the back foot, he has that yard of pace.
Title: Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
Post by: Adder on January 25, 2020, 11:02:05 PM
But doing things at speed is exactly what we needed against Stoke, for example, I don't understand why he didn't come on then, he might be a bit headless but at least he tries to get past his man and will put the defence on the back foot, he has that yard of pace.
Yes, watching Barnes for Leicester the last couple of weeks that's what he's doing. Even if it doesn't come off all the time, I think we need one player who is quick and direct.
Title: Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
Post by: Atomic on January 25, 2020, 11:09:33 PM
Yes, watching Barnes for Leicester the last couple of weeks that's what he's doing. Even if it doesn't come off all the time, I think we need one player who is quick and direct.

Sorry. Much as I love one of our own but Edwards is at the very least two levels below Barnes.
Title: Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
Post by: baggiesboots on January 26, 2020, 02:08:40 AM
Sorry. Much as I love one of our own but Edwards is at the very least two levels below Barnes.
So are you saying he's as close to Barnes as we have right now?  Barnes was never, or ever going to be our player and if we didn't give him that experience to develope in this league he wouldn't be as good now. How amazing if we actually gave some regular first team time to one of our own young players and they turned out to be good.
Title: Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
Post by: Adder on January 26, 2020, 09:27:18 AM
Sorry. Much as I love one of our own but Edwards is at the very least two levels below Barnes.
Yes but it's the general point of pace and directness and using the resources we currently have at our disposal.
Title: Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
Post by: zippyandbungle on January 26, 2020, 09:49:01 AM
Yes but it's the general point of pace and directness and using the resources we currently have at our disposal.
Edwards can be every bit as good....like all players, they need to play, have the backing of the manager and crucially for wingers not worry about the times when it “doesn’t come off”
Edwards won us Preston away...not just the pen, every time he got the ball he went at them...he’s better than people think, reminds me of a dog on a leash, we need to free him off
Title: Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
Post by: Atomic on January 26, 2020, 10:41:04 AM
Edwards can be every bit as good....like all players, they need to play, have the backing of the manager and crucially for wingers not worry about the times when it “doesn’t come off”
Edwards won us Preston away...not just the pen, every time he got the ball he went at them...he’s better than people think, reminds me of a dog on a leash, we need to free him off

Edwards doesn't have the technique that Barnes has. You cant coach that into someone. That's not to say Edwards cant be a good player, he can but Barnes is just better quality. 
Title: Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
Post by: baggiebof on January 26, 2020, 11:17:09 AM
I'd be annoyed if I was Edwards, really he should be starting most games whilst Diangana has been out but he hasn't. I agree that he is inconsistent but he can do it at this level and he wont find that consistency unless he gets game time.
Title: Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
Post by: johnny Cash on January 26, 2020, 11:58:43 AM
Edwards doesn't have the technique that Barnes has. You cant coach that into someone. That's not to say Edwards cant be a good player, he can but Barnes is just better quality.

Agreed. Barnes is now starting to have more and more impact at a club flying high on the premiership and that’s a level Edwards will never reach.  Should we get promoted, Edwards can’t be a player we are relying too heavily on.
Title: Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
Post by: frazzle on January 26, 2020, 12:16:05 PM
Edwards doesn't have the technique that Barnes has. You cant coach that into someone. That's not to say Edwards cant be a good player, he can but Barnes is just better quality.

Of course you can coach technique. What a daft thing to say. If it was pace then fair enough, but technique can be improved through coaching and practice.
Title: Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
Post by: lewisant on January 26, 2020, 12:24:56 PM
I think Kyle Edwards and Harvey Barnes are very different players and comparing them, for me, is a bit silly. Edwards is more of a Sterling (i'm not comparing them on quality!!) style winger, gets to the back line, runs at people with tricks and step overs, pushes the defence back, holds on to the ball, often for too long which used to be one of Sterling's problems, cuts back onto his right. Barnes is far more direct, two-footed and his a wicked shot on him from range.
Title: Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
Post by: Windmill Baggy on January 26, 2020, 12:27:05 PM
He was excellent yesterday, one of the biggest positives from yesterday for me, and there were quite a few of those! He should be starting against Cardiff now really.
Title: Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
Post by: jimmyj on January 27, 2020, 01:15:24 PM
Athletic article from today regarding Edwards

Kyle Edwards is on course to become the next academy product to commit his future to West Bromwich Albion as he aims to live up to the “Messi” tag he was given at the age of 10.

The winger, fresh from an impressive display in the FA Cup win away to Premier League West Ham United on Saturday, is increasingly likely to follow 20-year-old Dara O’Shea in extending his time at The Hawthorns.

The Athletic understands talks between Edwards and the club have progressed well in recent weeks and have now reached an advanced stage.

The 21-year-old Dudley-born player is likely to agree a hefty increase in wages from around £1,000 per week — a figure agreed two years ago when he was newly-graduated from the academy — to more than £10,000 per week as a regular member of the first-team squad.

Irish defender O’Shea celebrated his new three-and-a-half-year deal with another eye-catching performance at right-back as Slaven Bilic’s Championship leaders beat his previous English club 1-0 to reach the last 16 and Edwards, his former Albion under-23s team-mate, is hopeful of agreeing terms in the coming weeks.

The pair, both promoted to regular first-team squad status by new head coach Bilic this season, attended the same footballing “finishing school” with season-long loans at Exeter City — Edwards in 2017-18 and O’Shea a year later.

But while the Irishman had to wait until he was 16 to make the move from Dublin to West Bromwich, Edwards has already spent 14 years at The Hawthorns.

He was spotted by academy scouts at the age of seven while playing for Kewford Eagles — a major youth football club based in Wall Heath, on the edge of the West Midlands near the borders with Staffordshire and Worcestershire. He attracted interest from Wolverhampton Wanderers, Aston Villa and Birmingham City but, with his entire family Albion fans, he signed for them and has remained ever since.

When contract talks stalled earlier this season, it appeared Edwards might be forced to consider moving on but discussions are now back on track and likely to reach a positive conclusion. A deal would give him a further chance to deliver on the promise that was identified when he first caught the eye of coaches in his early days in West Brom’s academy.

“I remember Kyle when he was proper, proper small — he was an unbelievable player even then,” says Albion midfielder Romaine Sawyers, who was seven years ahead of Edwards as academy kids. “He’s grown a lot. I never expected him to get to this height!

“When he was about 10, he would just go and take the ball off the goalkeeper, beat everybody and score.

“Mark Harrison, our old academy manager, told my age group, ‘We’ve got this kid who is 10 years old and this is Messi.’

“No word of a lie; I could see the comparison back then. If Kyle’s got videos, I’d urge him to show anybody. He was unbelievable and to see him now in the first team warms my heart.”

Having made three Championship starts last season and three more as a substitute, Edwards caught Bilic’s eye in pre-season. Selected to start the opening game away to Nottingham Forest, he scored Albion’s first goal of the season. He has since started seven more matches and appeared 14 times from the substitutes’ bench.

Edwards has shared duties in wide positions with Matt Phillips, Grady Diangana and Matheus Pereira and, despite the other wingers-cum-forwards attracting more headlines, has fared better in some statistical disciplines.

His shots-on-target tally of 0.89 per 90 minutes is the best of the quartet, with the others all managing 0.75 or less.

Edwards also leads the way when it comes to successful dribbles, with a total of 3.56 per 90 minutes compared to Diangana’s 3.21, Pereira’s 1.82 and Phillips’ 0.97.

In expected goals, Edwards’ tally is the second-best of the quartet but his most eye-catching contributions have come from the bench.

Saturday brought an impressive display from the start ahead of two leagues games over the next week that suspended Pereira and the injured Diangana will both miss, meaning the young winger is likely to be called upon.

“Kyle is getting chances and has from the first game of the season,” says Bilic. “Kyle scored against Forest and started against Luton and Millwall [in August]. He is involved in nearly every game. He’s got quality and I love him. He only has to become more consistent.

“He should get a chance now but he’s getting chances anyway and a lot of the time, he makes a big, strong impact and changes the game, and that’s what we need from him.”

“I thought played really well [on Saturday],” said Conor Townsend, whose fine early goal at the London Stadium decided the tie. “Going forward, everyone knows what he can do but, in the last 10 minutes, his performance helping out defensively was really good as well.

“He has been in an out and shown glimpses of what he can do but we all know what a good player he is, and he’s trying to show that more consistently.

“He’s probably going to have a big role to play in the next couple of games with Matheus [Pereira] suspended, whether it be off the bench or starting, so this will be a confidence boost for him going forward.”

Another of Albion’s highly-rated academy graduates, Rayhaan Tulloch, made his fourth appearance for the club on Saturday but is currently less likely than Edwards to still be at The Hawthorns next season.

The 19-year-old, a product of the same youth team — Phoenix United — that produced Saido Berahino, Nathan Ferguson and Jerome Sinclair, is set to be out of contract in the summer but has yet to agree an extension.

The Athletic understands colleagues currently expect Tulloch to leave as a free agent.

Albion would receive a fee for him, probably one decided by a tribunal, if he joins another English club but could receive only a standard compensation amount if he moves to Scotland or mainland Europe.

(Photo: Arfa Griffiths/West Ham United FC via Getty Images)
Title: Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
Post by: gazberg on January 27, 2020, 01:46:07 PM
Thanks for the article. Good news. Didn't realise he and family were Albion fans.
Title: Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
Post by: AlbionFan on January 27, 2020, 01:48:10 PM
jimmyj, thank you for posting the article, interesting read
Title: Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on January 27, 2020, 01:52:22 PM
Thanks for the article. Good news. Didn't realise he and family were Albion fans.

His dad is often at the games - saw him in the away end a few times

They're a very nice family by all accounts.
Title: Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
Post by: tommcneill on January 27, 2020, 01:54:49 PM
Edwards will get better with game time and experience.

He has all the attributes to be a good winger, we should get him signed up ASAP

He is still very young remember and a few more years playing at a high level will see his decision making improve.
Title: Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
Post by: NathWBA on January 27, 2020, 02:04:24 PM
Good deal, at circa 10k a week it’s a no brainer, weren’t the rumours that Ferguson had been offered double that?
Title: Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
Post by: beechyboy90 on January 27, 2020, 08:21:23 PM
I hope we tie him down. He might still need another season in championship before he can step up but he has come on leaps and bounds. He works tirelessly for the team in both directions similar to leko it's just consistency and the final ball or goal that is needed.

He has a very good ability to get a shot off in tight places. He is a player that needs to be given the ball and told to beat his fullback. As the old timers shout "get chalk on ye boots son"
Title: Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
Post by: TheJacko2000 on February 11, 2020, 08:30:51 PM
Meanwhile on Twitter Kyle's mum has lost the plot on Masi's tweet. 😂
Title: Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on February 11, 2020, 09:47:24 PM
Meanwhile on Twitter Kyle's mum has lost the plot on Masi's tweet. 😂

Care to share?
Title: Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
Post by: TheJacko2000 on February 11, 2020, 09:54:39 PM
Care to share?


Have to be honest I've assumed it's his ma...


https://twitter.com/JosephMasi_Star/status/1227237160996286464 (https://twitter.com/JosephMasi_Star/status/1227237160996286464)


That's the tweet, a few replies seem to have been deleted though.
Title: Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
Post by: lewisant on February 11, 2020, 09:59:28 PM
I wonder what the true story is here...
Title: Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on February 11, 2020, 10:10:24 PM

Have to be honest I've assumed it's his ma...


https://twitter.com/JosephMasi_Star/status/1227237160996286464 (https://twitter.com/JosephMasi_Star/status/1227237160996286464)


That's the tweet, a few replies seem to have been deleted though.

Yeah, that’s his Mom

Interesting..
Title: Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
Post by: Albionic on February 11, 2020, 10:12:06 PM
Yeah, that’s his Mom

Interesting..

Erm, think either Masi is kite flying or young Kyle isn’t keeping mom in the loop!
Either is not a good look !
Title: Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
Post by: Fritzl Palace on February 11, 2020, 10:13:43 PM
Can’t say as I’m fussed either way, he’ll never be any better than Championship level and currently he’s nowhere near good enough to be in our side
Title: Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on February 11, 2020, 10:30:08 PM
Can’t say as I’m fussed either way, he’ll never be any better than Championship level and currently he’s nowhere near good enough to be in our side

I have to agree - not too concerned whether he signs a new deal or not.
Title: Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
Post by: Atomic on February 11, 2020, 10:51:54 PM
Can’t say as I’m fussed either way, he’ll never be any better than Championship level and currently he’s nowhere near good enough to be in our side


I am because him signing a new deal means we can get a fee for selling him. Same with Tulloch. Neither are good enough for what we need but they are young and therefore assets we can sell.
Title: Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
Post by: alex1 on February 11, 2020, 11:05:17 PM
Can’t say as I’m fussed either way, he’ll never be any better than Championship level and currently he’s nowhere near good enough to be in our side
Much too early to be writing him off. He's got the main ingredients of a good turn of pace and a decent shot and he's young enough to improve with some good coaching. Must be a bit frustrating seeing Grosicki and Robinson in his position, but I hope he gets his chances.
Always good to see a local lad coming through the system and making it here. 
Title: Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
Post by: SmethDan on February 12, 2020, 02:30:04 AM
I like Kyle Edwards. Good player already and I think he's got it within him to develop into a really good player. Needs more game time to aid consistency. I hope he decides to sign up with us. Same with Rayhan. Good lads with ability and potential.
Title: Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
Post by: beechyboy90 on February 12, 2020, 02:40:56 AM
I like Kyle Edwards. Good player already and I think he's got it within him to develop into a really good player. Needs more game time to aid consistency. I hope he decides to sign up with us. Same with Rayhan. Good lads with ability and potential.

Edwards seems to be a late developer. Shame we didn't get him out on loan in league one until the end of the season following grosicki and Robinson coming in.

Next year if he signs a new deal we need to get him out playing 40 games next season be it league one or championship and see if he can keep up his current trajectory
Title: Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
Post by: SmethDan on February 12, 2020, 02:55:34 AM
Edwards seems to be a late developer. Shame we didn't get him out on loan in league one until the end of the season following grosicki and Robinson coming in.

Next year if he signs a new deal we need to get him out playing 40 games next season be it league one or championship and see if he can keep up his current trajectory

Knee injury really hampered Kyle's development. Clearly enjoys his second chance in the game, here's hoping he makes the most of his potential with us. There's a very good player in there.
Title: Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
Post by: TiptonThrostle on February 12, 2020, 08:35:35 AM
Edwards seems to be a late developer. Shame we didn't get him out on loan in league one until the end of the season following grosicki and Robinson coming in.

Next year if he signs a new deal we need to get him out playing 40 games next season be it league one or championship and see if he can keep up his current trajectory

league one ?

he is a championship player now by a country mile.
Title: Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
Post by: FallOutBoy on February 12, 2020, 08:45:08 AM
In my opinion he isn't strong enough, or effective enough, to make a Premier League footballer. A bit like Sawyers, he's often too laid back when the team don't have possession. His positioning is good, but he never seems to make the most of his opportunities.

Maybe some of that will come with age / experience, but I think Championship will prove to be his level.
Title: Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
Post by: seteefeet on February 12, 2020, 08:52:11 AM
What's his mom said? I can't see the twitter thing.
Title: Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
Post by: AlbionFan on February 12, 2020, 08:58:28 AM
What's his mom said? I can't see the twitter thing.

Joseph Masi Twitter Account

"Albion also in talks with both Kyle Edwards and Rayhaan Tulloch as they look to secure the duo on long-term deals. Edwards deal a lot closer than Tulloch's."

Edwards mom's responses

Let’s hope it true and not just Fake News !!

There’s a lot of it going around !!

Where do these stories come from ?

How longs this story been going on ? haven't seen any thing happening have you ??
Maybe the same fake news that went around about another young player !!

Personally, I can't see a lot in it really. Not even a "storm in a teacup", but thats me






Title: Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
Post by: FallOutBoy on February 12, 2020, 09:02:39 AM
Joseph Masi Twitter Account

"Albion also in talks with both Kyle Edwards and Rayhaan Tulloch as they look to secure the duo on long-term deals. Edwards deal a lot closer than Tulloch's."

Edwards mom's responses

Let’s hope it true and not just Fake News !!

There’s a lot of it going around !!

Where do these stories come from ?

How longs this story been going on ? haven't seen any thing happening have you ??
Maybe the same fake news that went around about another young player !!

Personally, I can't see a lot in it really. Not even a "storm in a teacup", but thats me

I think she's basically saying that the club are putting these stories out there to appease the fans, but aren't actually doing anything behind the scenes.

You do look at the Barry, Ferguson, Tulloch situations at this point and wonder how much is them and how much is the club? They are the common denominator.
Title: Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
Post by: seteefeet on February 12, 2020, 09:06:20 AM
Joseph Masi Twitter Account

"Albion also in talks with both Kyle Edwards and Rayhaan Tulloch as they look to secure the duo on long-term deals. Edwards deal a lot closer than Tulloch's."

Edwards mom's responses

Let’s hope it true and not just Fake News !!

There’s a lot of it going around !!

Where do these stories come from ?

How longs this story been going on ? haven't seen any thing happening have you ??
Maybe the same fake news that went around about another young player !!

Personally, I can't see a lot in it really. Not even a "storm in a teacup", but thats me
Cheers mate.
Title: Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
Post by: alex1 on February 12, 2020, 02:43:45 PM
Joseph Masi Twitter Account

"Albion also in talks with both Kyle Edwards and Rayhaan Tulloch as they look to secure the duo on long-term deals. Edwards deal a lot closer than Tulloch's."

Edwards mom's responses

Let’s hope it true and not just Fake News !!

There’s a lot of it going around !!

Where do these stories come from ?

How longs this story been going on ? haven't seen any thing happening have you ??
Maybe the same fake news that went around about another young player !!

Personally, I can't see a lot in it really. Not even a "storm in a teacup", but thats me
As modern football agents go, Kyle Edwards' mum sounds a lot better than most!
Title: Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
Post by: Adder on March 03, 2020, 10:32:19 PM
Thought Edwards was pretty impressive tonight and again showed he can go both ways and cause problems. Should remember that direct wingers will get certain things wrong and won't be 100% consistent but it's about being involved often enough and causing danger often enough - there's definitely a player there.

I've lost track but am I right that he hasn't yet re-signed ?
Title: Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
Post by: beechyboy90 on March 03, 2020, 10:36:46 PM
Thought Edwards was pretty impressive tonight and again showed he can go both ways and cause problems. Should remember that direct wingers will get certain things wrong and won't be 100% consistent but it's about being involved often enough and causing danger often enough - there's definitely a player there.

I've lost track but am I right that he hasn't yet re-signed ?

Hasnt resigned but we have a year option which I imagine we will take. He was arguably man of the match tonight with exception of krovonovic.

He needs another full year in the championship with somebody next year but nothing to say he wont come good. He is a late developer it seems
Title: Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
Post by: zippyandbungle on March 03, 2020, 11:14:06 PM
Hasnt resigned but we have a year option which I imagine we will take. He was arguably man of the match tonight with exception of krovonovic.

He needs another full year in the championship with somebody next year but nothing to say he wont come good. He is a late developer it seems
He is already a pretty useful winger ...he doesn’t need to go on loan IMO , he just needs to play with players , look how impactful he was once Krov came on .
Title: Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
Post by: beechyboy90 on March 04, 2020, 12:00:09 AM
He is already a pretty useful winger ...he doesn’t need to go on loan IMO , he just needs to play with players , look how impactful he was once Krov came on .

He needs games... if he isn't going to play week in week out next season with us loan to championship is beneficial for us and him
Title: Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
Post by: Dexy on March 04, 2020, 07:21:47 AM
Hasnt resigned but we have a year option which I imagine we will take. He was arguably man of the match tonight with exception of krovonovic.

He needs another full year in the championship with somebody next year but nothing to say he wont come good. He is a late developer it seems
Agree with the above , lets not forget he lost a year out injured and he's been converted into a winger .
He played a lot of youth football as a forward or just off the foward , reminds me of Jason Puncheon at times.
Title: Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
Post by: geoff on March 04, 2020, 08:05:24 AM
One for the near future thats for sure, a loan spell would do him the world of good & help him progress.
He just needs to use his body position more when trying to regane the ball.
Title: Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
Post by: FallOutBoy on March 04, 2020, 08:53:45 AM
I didn't think he was very good last night. Nobody really was, but he lost the ball far too easily, and showed his shortcomings.
Title: Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
Post by: tommcneill on March 04, 2020, 08:58:14 AM
I thoight he was excellent last night personally. Whenever he got the ball he attacked his full back. He created some chances and had their full back on toast a few times.

Really struggling to see how anyone could see any different to be honest. One of the better players on the pitch
Title: Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
Post by: baggiebof on March 04, 2020, 09:21:22 AM
He is obviously talented and is getting better but as others have pointed out, can be loose in possession and isn't always switched on when pressing the ball, he gets back into position but doesn't pick up on a misplaced pass as an opportunity to press.

If we don't go up, he stays as he can definitely contribute and costs will need to be cut so he is of more value. If we do go up, he would be able to contribute but in my eyes he absolutely must go on loan to the Championship and play regularly. We have Grosicki, Phillips and Pereira (soon) committed as wingers for next season. We would need another starter and then get Edwards out on loan to be ready to be a main contributor the season after. It would mean a Leko, another youth player or even a loan being fifth choice, when back from injury but necessary as short-term pain would be long term gain as Edwards would hopefully return ready to be a regular starter in the Prem.
Title: Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
Post by: Adder on March 04, 2020, 09:22:09 AM
I didn't think he was very good last night. Nobody really was, but he lost the ball far too easily, and showed his shortcomings.
Very harsh, he had a very big part in both goals (the second one, nothing was on when he got the ball) as well as a couple of threatening shots and other decent involvement. Not quite sure what you saw or what you expect from a young winger.
Title: Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
Post by: Morany on March 04, 2020, 09:25:08 AM
A decent player but don't think he'd ever make the step up, will forge a good career in the championship
Title: Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
Post by: seteefeet on March 04, 2020, 09:37:59 AM
A decent player but don't think he'd ever make the step up, will forge a good career in the championship
Agree, think his best chance would be to take the Sawyers route, drop down and learn his trade properly, then work his way back up. Same goes for Harper.
Trouble is both probably have a lifestyle now which prevents them from seeing this as an option.
Title: Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
Post by: boinging_along on March 04, 2020, 09:53:54 AM
I think he's just a bit inconsistent and loses concentation too easily.  Something that he can sort as he gets older.
Title: Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
Post by: Adder on March 04, 2020, 10:15:27 AM
I think he's just a bit inconsistent and loses concentation too easily.  Something that he can sort as he gets older.
He was good last night but I agree to an extent.
I'm not saying he's as good as Harvey Barnes but he could do with taking a leaf out of Harvey's book in that Barnes is always 'at it' looking to take people on, making runs and has very, very few games where he looks like he wants an easy ride. (even Barnes was accused of being inconsistent by some on here though).
Edwards this year has had good games where he's at it and others where he looks less at it. I think Slaven knows this and is getting through to him. If a winger can make 4 or 5 telling contributions in a game and work hard around that then that's a good return and that's what Edwards did last night. There will always be some things that don't work (as there were and still are for Harvey).
Title: Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
Post by: boinging_along on March 04, 2020, 10:21:20 AM
He was good last night but I agree to an extent.
I'm not saying he's as good as Harvey Barnes but he could do with taking a leaf out of Harvey's book in that Barnes is always 'at it' looking to take people on, making runs and has very, very few games where he looks like he wants an easy ride. (even Barnes was accused of being inconsistent by some on here though).
Edwards this year has had good games where he's at it and others where he looks less at it. I think Slaven knows this and is getting through to him. If a winger can make 4 or 5 telling contributions in a game and work hard around that then that's a good return and that's what Edwards did last night. There will always be some things that don't work (as there were and still are for Harvey).

Yeah, I just think he's inconsistent in a single game.  One minute gets the ball and really run with it, next minute will ball watch and drift right out of the game.
Title: Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
Post by: Signor_Maresca on March 04, 2020, 12:50:40 PM
Thought he had a good game last night (well second half).  Put two or three lovely crosses into the box, was willing to take responsibility on the ball and showed some great skill to set up our second.   
Title: Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
Post by: OldburyWBA on March 04, 2020, 01:26:47 PM
Anonymous first half but certainly livened up second half when Krovinovic came on, not sure he will ever be a regular starter for us but will and should always be around the squad
Title: Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
Post by: chipperclark on March 04, 2020, 11:39:33 PM
 ;D
Anonymous first half but certainly livened up second half when Krovinovic came on, not sure he will ever be a regular starter for us but will and should always be around the squad
;D Totally agree with this . I think the lad has enormous potential. He will improve over time and I think he will be a good Prem player in the next year or 2.
Title: Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
Post by: Foster#1 on May 05, 2020, 09:27:32 AM
signed  1 year deal
Title: Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
Post by: gazberg on May 05, 2020, 12:13:32 PM
Took up the option on his 1 year deal so not really a new deal as such but sensible.

In other good news Robinson and Diangana have been allowed to stay on loan till season completed.
Title: Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
Post by: KN22 on May 05, 2020, 12:38:11 PM
Took up the option on his 1 year deal so not really a new deal as such but sensible.

In other good news Robinson and Diangana have been allowed to stay on loan till season completed.

That is indeed all good news....
Title: Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
Post by: gazberg on May 05, 2020, 12:45:34 PM
Yep and as long as Periera plays one more game before June 30th he becomes locked in on a permanent as well although i expect usd to sign him regardless.
Title: Re: Kyle Edwards - a star in the making?
Post by: beechyboy90 on May 08, 2020, 01:15:55 AM
Took up the option on his 1 year deal so not really a new deal as such but sensible.

In other good news Robinson and Diangana have been allowed to stay on loan till season completed.

Well we don't know what kind of situation we could be in with contracts come july so wasn't worth the risk...