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Title: 1 Jan 2019 Blackburn 2 Albion 1
Post by: Hull Baggie on December 13, 2018, 08:12:16 AM
Just to let you know that if you are driving to Blackburn on New Years Day that parking in the council run car parks is free on bank holidays.

I've put a link below. Please note that Fielden St Multi Storey won't be open on New years Day but all the others will.

https://www.blackburn.gov.uk/Pages/Parking-in-Blackburn-town-centre.aspx
Title: Re: Blackburn Rovers New Years Day parking
Post by: Sted1990 on December 13, 2018, 09:48:13 PM
Fantastic, thanks
Title: 1 Jan 2019 Blackburn 2 Albion 1
Post by: OldburyWBA on December 15, 2018, 06:55:10 PM
Blackburn Rovers v West Bromwich Albion

Tuesday 1st January 2019 15.00m

Please use this board for all your After Match Debate. Away fans are reminded to abide by the site rules.
Title: In Game Chat
Post by: OldburyWBA on December 15, 2018, 06:56:07 PM
Blackburn Rovers v West Bromwich Albion

Tuesday 1st January 2019 15.00pm

Please use this board for all your In Game Chat. Opposition fans are reminded to abide by the site rules.

Please keep this board Albion related, there are boards elsewhere in General Sports to discuss other games
Title: Pre Match Chat
Post by: OldburyWBA on December 15, 2018, 06:56:28 PM
Blackburn Rovers v West Bromwich Albion

Tuesday 1st January 2019 15.00pm

Please use this board for all your Pre Match Chat. Opposition fans are reminded to abide by the site rules.
Title: Ticket Info & Requests
Post by: OldburyWBA on December 15, 2018, 07:01:02 PM
Blackburn Rovers v West Bromwich Albion

Tuesday 1st January 2019 15.00pm

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Title: Match Officials
Post by: Hull Baggie on December 17, 2018, 09:14:05 AM
Referee: Oliver Langford
Assistant Referee: Philip Dermott
Assistant Referee: Billy Smallwood
Fourth Official: Peter Bankes
Title: Re: Ticket Info & Requests
Post by: WBASPE77 on December 18, 2018, 06:53:39 PM
Just under 900 sold so far.
Title: Re: Ticket Info & Requests
Post by: Sted1990 on December 19, 2018, 10:05:34 AM
Got my tickets but couldn’t tell if we’re being sold upper or lower tier?
Title: Re: Ticket Info & Requests
Post by: WBASPE77 on December 20, 2018, 08:36:02 PM
Got my tickets but couldn’t tell if we’re being sold upper or lower tier?

Lower tier.
Title: Re: Ticket Info & Requests
Post by: Sted1990 on December 21, 2018, 12:55:00 PM
Lower tier.

Thanks
Title: Re: Ticket Info & Requests
Post by: Hull Baggie on December 28, 2018, 01:42:06 PM
Tickets will be available on the day but will go up from £27 to £30.

https://www.wba.co.uk/news/2018/december/important-ticket-info-for-blackburn-clash/
Title: Re: Ticket Info & Requests
Post by: WBASPE77 on December 28, 2018, 02:36:00 PM
Sold just under 1,500 so far.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: beechyboy90 on December 29, 2018, 06:01:44 PM
I would have taken a point here pre Sheffield Wednesday game but I think this has become a must win. Can't afford to not win 2 in a row the promotion race is so tightly contested and we still have a defecit to claw back- god knows what the team will be
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: mulliganstired on December 29, 2018, 06:17:47 PM
they'll be shellshocked by their last 2 games, we should go for it from the off
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: WBArgo on December 29, 2018, 06:22:50 PM
Get attacking Mowbray it looks like he's having another defensive wobbler. Hopefully we have a few more first teamers for this one!
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: Dan87uk on December 29, 2018, 07:49:06 PM
We definitely need to start on the front foot, but our starting lineup is going to look a bit odd with injuries/suspensions!
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on December 29, 2018, 08:22:06 PM
We definitely need to start on the front foot, but our starting lineup is going to look a bit odd with injuries/suspensions!
Today has shown up who NOT to play from the outset.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: Atomic on December 29, 2018, 08:26:56 PM
I really hope Hegazi and Gayle are back for this. Phillips and Barry must return to centre midfield as well, no if's / but's.

Adarabioyo needs to be left out now. He's the typical example of a kid who needs taking out of the team for a while as his errors are becoming more regular and costly, his confidence is bound to be affected. I'm sure he'll play at Blackburn though but we desperately need to bring a right back into the club.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: MarkW on December 29, 2018, 08:42:54 PM
I really hope Hegazi and Gayle are back for this. Phillips and Barry must return to centre midfield as well, no if's / but's.

Adarabioyo needs to be left out now. He's the typical example of a kid who needs taking out of the team for a while as his errors are becoming more regular and costly, his confidence is bound to be affected. I'm sure he'll play at Blackburn though but we desperately need to bring a right back into the club.

Really odd thing to notic but if you look at Tosin when he's playing, he clutches at his base layer sleeves. A typical nervous response, like biting your shirt (I think Butland used to do this).

Agree he needs to be left out but what is the other option? Dawson to right back? Mears in?
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on December 29, 2018, 08:45:45 PM
Blackburn have lost 3 on the bounce.
Will they still be down hearted or will they want and desire too change things?
An awkward match to predict, so we must prove that we are the team who are at their best and going up.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: BoingFlyer on December 29, 2018, 08:52:15 PM
Smallwood was sent off for them as well today. Played every game as holding midfielder.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: Atomic on December 29, 2018, 08:52:57 PM
Really odd thing to notic but if you look at Tosin when he's playing, he clutches at his base layer sleeves. A typical nervous response, like biting your shirt (I think Butland used to do this).

Agree he needs to be left out but what is the other option? Dawson to right back? Mears in?


Neither are very appealing options. If I had to choose I'd rather Mears at right back than Dawson being moved and Bartley coming in.

Hopefully we can get through the Blackburn game and sign a right back before we play Norwich.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: zippyandbungle on December 29, 2018, 10:11:36 PM

Neither are very appealing options. If I had to choose I'd rather Mears at right back than Dawson being moved and Bartley coming in.

Hopefully we can get through the Blackburn game and sign a right back before we play Norwich.
But then would you throw a newbie straight in?
I quite like James from Wigan , we won't prize tavernier away now
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: baggy74 on December 29, 2018, 10:24:25 PM
Is this game available  on Sky Red Button  ?
Title: Team
Post by: Atomic on December 30, 2018, 08:51:36 AM
Anybody want to guess at this? lol. Hard to know who will be available and who won't at this stage isn't it? I'd be hopeful of J Rod's red being overturned so I'll presume he's available. Hopefully Hegazi and Gayle will back as well.

OK I'm going with:


                                          Johnstone

Adarabioyo            Dawson                      Hegazi                   Gibbs

                    Phillips            Livermore                 Barry

Gayle                                 Rodriguez                                   Barnes


Subs: Myhill, Mears, Brunt, Morrison, Harper, Robson-Kanu, Burke.


That team looks way better doesn't it?

Could be a million miles away with this team selection though.
Title: Re: Team
Post by: baggiebof on December 30, 2018, 09:05:09 AM
I would be surprised to see Gayle, even a minor hamstring issue will take 7-10 days, best case scenario will see him back for Norwich in my view. Rodriguez is the key, if it isn't overturned we are looking at a front 3 out of the following players: Barnes, Robson-Kanu, Sako, Burke and I guess Leko and Edwards. If that were the case, I think I would have Burke wide left, Robson-Kanu wide right and Barnes down the middle. As an aside, I do worry about Gibbs making it through this game unscathed.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: BAGGIE5 on December 30, 2018, 09:07:50 AM
Is this game available  on Sky Red Button  ?

I was thinking the same thing? Its not a traditional 3pm Saturday kick off. Fingers crossed it’s available.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: Sted1990 on December 30, 2018, 11:40:13 AM
I was thinking the same thing? Its not a traditional 3pm Saturday kick off. Fingers crossed it’s available.

At the moment it isn’t but Sky have said it can change
Title: Re: Team
Post by: TheJacko2000 on December 30, 2018, 12:01:49 PM
It will be:


Johnstone


Adarabioyo
Dawson
Bartley
Gibbs


Phillips
Livermore
Barry


Sako
HRK
Barnes


Unless Rodriguez gets his ban overturned where we would have him through the middle and Kanu wide right.
Title: Re: Team
Post by: zippyandbungle on December 30, 2018, 12:12:11 PM
                    Johnstone

Tosin.      Dawson.     Hegazi.     Gibbs

                      Livermore
 Phillips.     Morrison.    Barry.     Barnes

                 Sako.       HRK

Even with 10 men they seemed to cope with us in midfield so put numbers in

Would definitely have Edwards and Townsend on the bench with a view to resting Gibbs and Phillips if/when we go 2-0 up
Title: Re: Ticket Info & Requests
Post by: AlbionBest on December 30, 2018, 12:13:59 PM
me and few others will decide on the morning of the match - see how we feel !!
Title: Re: Team
Post by: TheJacko2000 on December 30, 2018, 12:16:52 PM
                    Johnstone

Tosin.      Dawson.     Hegazi.     Gibbs

                      Livermore
 Phillips.     Morrison.    Barry.     Barnes

                 Sako.       HRK

Even with 10 men they seemed to cope with us in midfield so put numbers in

Would definitely have Edwards and Townsend on the bench with a view to resting Gibbs and Phillips if/when we go 2-0 up


Firstly there won't be a change of shape, secondly while I appreciate the ingenuity, sneaking a 12th player out onto the pitch won't be easy.
Title: Re: Team
Post by: FallOutBoy on December 30, 2018, 06:36:11 PM
Johnstone

Adarbiyio
Dawson
Hegazi
Gibbs

Phillips
Livermore
Barry

Sako
Rodriguez (subject to red card being overturned)
Barnes

If we have to go for three games with Robson-Kanu as our centre-forward, I fear for us.
Title: Re: Team
Post by: zippyandbungle on December 30, 2018, 07:06:43 PM

Firstly there won't be a change of shape, secondly while I appreciate the ingenuity, sneaking a 12th player out onto the pitch won't be easy.
Bloody spoilsport
1 from the forward 2
I'm worried that teams are working us out to easy (Barnes/ midfield)
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: wbarenno on December 30, 2018, 09:46:10 PM
Forest Leeds is on at 3pm. So they could be on the red button. The Boxing Day games being on the red button weren’t announced until Christmas Eve was they.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: wbarenno on December 31, 2018, 10:29:36 AM
  When you click on the forest Leeds game on the sky q planner it says multi events. Villa v qpr , Brentford v Norwich , derby v boro and Sheffield Wednesday blues are listed but that’s it. Hopefully more get added to the planner
Title: Re: Team
Post by: mulliganstired on December 31, 2018, 12:10:57 PM
Bloody spoilsport
1 from the forward 2
I'm worried that teams are working us out to easy (Barnes/ midfield)
I think so too, they will double up on Barnes and flood the midfield.  We need to be ready in advance not wait till half time/60 mins
Title: Re: Team
Post by: Nocky on December 31, 2018, 03:16:04 PM
                                  Johnstone

Tosin                   Dawson            Bartley          Gibbs

                                        Barry
                           Livermore       Morrison

Phillips                             J-Rod                     Barnes

The above given that Sako was pretty awful against Sheff Wed. Phillips has done really well in the middle but feel like his pace on the break could be useful.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: BAGGIE5 on December 31, 2018, 05:18:36 PM
  When you click on the forest Leeds game on the sky q planner it says multi events. Villa v qpr , Brentford v Norwich , derby v boro and Sheffield Wednesday blues are listed but that’s it. Hopefully more get added to the planner

Thats true.. very strange. I assume it will be available on ifollow. But i dont to pay £10 for it when it might be on Sky. Very strange for the banner to being showing  just a few games. Fingers crossed anyway.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: Albion79 on December 31, 2018, 05:43:35 PM
I dont know how true it is but i was told for bank holiday games clubs can decline their games being shown on sky at 3pm in the uk.

Most seem to just do it but as of yesterday blackburn apparently hadnt gave permission for it be shown, whether they want more fans through the door with it being bank holiday instead of them watching sky i dont know.

I dont know what fee you get for being a red button game but with us being an attraction, being bank holiday, etc maybe they fancy their chances of earning more that way.

Like i say i have no idea if its true or not.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: tommcneill on December 31, 2018, 07:21:12 PM
Looking forward to this one now..

Travelling up with my brother so will be a good sing song had I reckon
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: BAGGIE5 on December 31, 2018, 07:21:56 PM
Probably right with that theory. But im sure if its not a 3pm Saturday game it will be available on ifollow?
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: gazberg on December 31, 2018, 07:27:29 PM
That's normally correct regarding ifollow.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: TheJacko2000 on December 31, 2018, 07:52:19 PM
Relatively local one for me this. Not been to Ewood for a few years now, looking forward to it.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: KYA on December 31, 2018, 08:08:01 PM
J Rod red card rescinded.
https://www.wba.co.uk/news/2018/december/rodriguez-red-card-rescinded/
Title: Re: Team
Post by: FallOutBoy on December 31, 2018, 08:15:23 PM
The above given that Sako was pretty awful against Sheff Wed. Phillips has done really well in the middle but feel like his pace on the break could be useful.

I don't think Sako was awful against Wednesday, just rusty - he definitely had a couple of moments of quality. If we just drop him every time then he's never going to get any better.
Title: Re: Team
Post by: beechyboy90 on December 31, 2018, 10:45:50 PM
I don't think Sako was awful against Wednesday, just rusty - he definitely had a couple of moments of quality. If we just drop him every time then he's never going to get any better.

Correct he needs a run. But as do the likes of Burke leko Edwards etc
Only negative thing I can say about the manager is that he doesn't fully utilise his squad.

If we can get sako up to scratch it could give us the extra 10% that gets us promoted
Title: Re: Team
Post by: Hull Baggie on December 31, 2018, 11:21:58 PM
Revised selection now that Rodriguez is available.

                                                  Johnstone
                   Mears              Dawson            Hegazi           Gibbs
     
                                 Phillips       Livermore           Barry

                                HRK            Rodriguez               Barnes


Subs: Myhill, Adabarioyo, Bartely, Brunt, Harper, Edwards, Sako.

                                       
Title: Re: Team
Post by: caravanc58 on January 01, 2019, 01:02:56 AM
get Barry back in the midfield. big no for a  brunt and Morrison partnership in the cm roles.
                   johnstone

  mears    Dawson   hegazi   Gibbs

       Livermore      Barry

                  Morrison
   Phillips                       barnes
                 Rodriguez

I've omitted Tosin on form and presume Gayle will be missing.

Title: Re: Team
Post by: mulliganstired on January 01, 2019, 10:20:04 AM
I don't think Sako was awful against Wednesday, just rusty - he definitely had a couple of moments of quality. If we just drop him every time then he's never going to get any better.
That's what I thought from the limited highlights I saw.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: superkev on January 01, 2019, 11:58:33 AM
Just seen this is not on sky red button and I am outside dab Black Country coverage so I look at I follow which asks you to sign up but says this match is not available to view
Is this correct on I follow and has anyone any other ideas how to watch it.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: yorkshire baggie on January 01, 2019, 12:05:30 PM
I recieved an email saying it was live on ifollow. Tried to sign in and says the match pass is unavailable...??
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: Standaman on January 01, 2019, 12:21:55 PM
I think because it is a 3 pm kick off the home club is not obliged to give permission for it to broadcast.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: Adder on January 01, 2019, 12:42:47 PM
Only 4 games are on the red button today it seems. Strange that all games seemed to be on boxing day but not today. I guess clubs were more confident of their gate receipts on boxing day.
Title: Re: Match Officials
Post by: alex1 on January 01, 2019, 02:05:00 PM
Listed as coming from the West Midlands. Not a good omen, given that he won't have any affinity with us.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: royhan on January 01, 2019, 02:06:03 PM
Morrison and Barry both start, as does Bartley. Robson Kanu leads the attack.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: Atomic on January 01, 2019, 02:07:50 PM
We line up as follows;


                                        Johnstone

Adarabioyo              Dawson                  Bartley                     Gibbs

                     Phillips         Barry                     Morrison

Robson-Kanu                    Rodriguez                                      Barnes
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: seteefeet on January 01, 2019, 02:11:25 PM
We haven't won on new years day since 1972 apparently. Blackburn haven't lost since 1977.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: Atomic on January 01, 2019, 02:12:08 PM
We haven't won on new years day since 1972 apparently. Blackburn haven't lost since 1977.


Thanks for that.

 :(
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: baggies37 on January 01, 2019, 02:18:43 PM
Cant believe at the moment that this game isnt available on iFollow nor Sky Red Button.

As not on iFollow would have thought sky would pick it up or vice versa.

Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: paulosull on January 01, 2019, 02:28:44 PM
Nice to see Phillips and Barry back in hope this is the last we see of Bartley in a starting line up.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: seteefeet on January 01, 2019, 02:45:07 PM

Thanks for that.

 :(
Sorry  :)
Let's hope we can buck the trend. Fancy Forest to do Leeds so could be a big chance.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: AlbionFan on January 01, 2019, 02:59:15 PM
Line Up:

Johnstone, Adarabioyo, Dawson, Bartley, Gibbs, Barry (c), Morrison, Phillips, Barnes, Robson-Kanu, Rodriguez

Subs: Myhill, Mears, Brunt, Harper, Livermore, Hoolahan, Sako
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on January 01, 2019, 03:00:54 PM
Could be up against it without Hagazi.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: Fritzl Palace on January 01, 2019, 03:02:18 PM
Always worry when I see the name Bartley...
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: Oldbury24 on January 01, 2019, 03:03:07 PM
Could be up against it without Hagazi.

Bartley does not inspire confidence in those around him but neither did he look such a liability in a back four as he did in a three. 
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on January 01, 2019, 03:04:01 PM
We're off ! COYB
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Pie on January 01, 2019, 03:05:19 PM
COYB!!!! LETS GO!
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: mank baggie on January 01, 2019, 03:06:03 PM
Come on Albion beat this lot today 
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on January 01, 2019, 03:06:59 PM
For those who want a text service....
https://www.wba.co.uk/fixtures-results/fixtures/first-team/2018192/january/blackburn-rovers-vs-west-bromwich-albion-on-01-jan-19/
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Fritzl Palace on January 01, 2019, 03:14:38 PM
Poor, slow start off us as ever.

Blackburn should be ahead
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Windmill Baggy on January 01, 2019, 03:16:00 PM
Poor, slow start off us as ever.

Blackburn should be ahead

Home side take the game to the away team early on shocker.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on January 01, 2019, 03:18:08 PM
How do you get access to Albion Radio? I have just registered on the clubs website and paid the subscription fee - but it now says I have to pay for Ifollow?

Is this really the process?!
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Fritzl Palace on January 01, 2019, 03:19:46 PM
Home side take the game to the away team early on shocker.

Poor side in an awful run of form dominating a far superior side...
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Oldbury24 on January 01, 2019, 03:25:12 PM
Poor side in an awful run of form dominating a far superior side...

Text commentary suggesting we are well on top now.....Phillips, Barnes and Tosin with efforts.  Is that not worth a mention?
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Dan87uk on January 01, 2019, 03:27:56 PM
We're on DAB BBC WM Black Country - not sure of any other way to follow besides the text service.

Leeds and Norwich both losing 1-0 currently.

Slow/Sluggish start from us so far, Dack seems to be picking up the ball too regularly for my liking, but we've settled a little in the last few of mins
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Fritzl Palace on January 01, 2019, 03:30:11 PM
Text commentary suggesting we are well on top now.....Phillips, Barnes and Tosin with efforts.  Is that not worth a mention?

I'll trust my own eyes thanks.

I do not doubt we will win this game unless Dack provides some magic as they are a poor side. I just want to see us play better as we should with the players we have, we should be controlling most games
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: AlbionFan on January 01, 2019, 03:30:58 PM
Sounds like Adarabioyo started well, might be the prospect of competition looming

Adarabioyo skins the Rovers left-back before firing a dangerous low cross into the six-yard box where it narrowly evades Rodriguez for an Albion opener. Good stuff from the on-loan right-back.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Oldbury24 on January 01, 2019, 03:31:45 PM
Are they sure ?  :D Adarabioyo skins the Rovers left-back before firing a dangerous low cross into the six-yard box where it narrowly evades Rodriguez for an Albion opener. Good stuff from the on-loan right-back.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Pie on January 01, 2019, 03:32:59 PM
Norwich losing.

Come on Albion this could be another big chance to make up points.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: geoff on January 01, 2019, 03:45:55 PM
Leeds down to 10 men Phillips sent off
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Aztech on January 01, 2019, 03:46:26 PM
Leeds down to ten men
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Oldbury24 on January 01, 2019, 03:46:42 PM
Rumours from Leicester that Barnes will be recalled, let's see him sign off with a goal or two today pls not been at his best last few games but going to be a big miss.  I worry about our goal threat without Gayle....
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on January 01, 2019, 03:47:50 PM
Sheff Utd (modified) are creeping up behind us.
Same points at the moment.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: tlms-p23 on January 01, 2019, 03:48:35 PM
Come on Albion. Big chance to make up ground the way other results are looking.  Leeds losing 1-0 and down to 10 and Norwich losing - and we have them next. COYB!!
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Political Cake on January 01, 2019, 03:49:04 PM
Half Time

Blackburn Rovers  0 - 0  West Bromwich Albion
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: geoff on January 01, 2019, 03:50:31 PM
Rumours from Leicester that Barnes will be recalled, let's see him sign off with a goal or two today pls not been at his best last few games but going to be a big miss.  I worry about our goal threat without Gayle....

Can see this recall being true but I hope not we aparantly haven't any money for any new signings has it stands  :'(
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Oldbury24 on January 01, 2019, 03:51:12 PM
Sheff Utd (modified) are creeping up behind us.
Same points at the moment.

Utd....and they will be there or there abouts in the shake up.  Good manager being given time.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: gazberg on January 01, 2019, 03:51:52 PM
Pretty much a nothing game. Very little to talk about, very slow sluggish standard NYD game. Dacks a very tidy player, the more i see him the more i like him. I think he would be great in a good footballing side.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Dexy on January 01, 2019, 03:52:39 PM
Rough first 10 mins but ok after , Barry pulling the strings along with Phillips.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: paulosull on January 01, 2019, 03:54:19 PM
If. Livermore hasn't got a knock he should be starting to give us some control in midfield.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Oldbury24 on January 01, 2019, 03:56:32 PM
Darren Moore is rotating as the midfield trio have to put a real shift in.  Thought it cost us points the other night but we may see benefits come end of Jan?
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: seteefeet on January 01, 2019, 03:57:08 PM
From the way it's been reported it seems reminiscent of Hull and Wigan away with not much happening. Hope we can up the tempo and get a goal before they do. Could be first goal wins it.
Where are the rumours 're Barnes?
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: gingernumpty on January 01, 2019, 03:57:50 PM
Missing a finish or hitting the back post more from corners first half.  Armstrong and dack creating most of Blackburn threat.  There to be won.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Oldbury24 on January 01, 2019, 03:58:43 PM
From the way it's been reported it seems reminiscent of Hull and Wigan away with not much happening. Hope we can up the tempo and get a goal before they do. Could be first goal wins it.
Where are the rumours 're Barnes?

Leicester Journo....
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Oldbury24 on January 01, 2019, 04:00:36 PM
Missing a finish or hitting the back post more from corners first half.  Armstrong and dack creating most of Blackburn threat.  There to be won.

Gayle is the difference? Jrod often "nearly getting onto it"
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: alex1 on January 01, 2019, 04:04:59 PM
Phillips looks our most dangerous player. Got some dangerous crosses in. but nobody on the end. Tosin had mixed game, got dangerous cross in, but Blackburn winger can get past him.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: geoff on January 01, 2019, 04:06:53 PM
Has other games are standing a 1-0 win would be nice
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: seteefeet on January 01, 2019, 04:10:50 PM
Gayle is the difference? Jrod often "nearly getting onto it"
Agree. Rodriguez doesn't have that striker's instinct.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Political Cake on January 01, 2019, 04:11:56 PM
Blackburn Rovers  1 - 0  West Bromwich Albion

Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: alex1 on January 01, 2019, 04:13:35 PM
Absolute joke defending. Straight from the corner past our entire defence.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Fritzl Palace on January 01, 2019, 04:13:51 PM
Straight from a corner.

We have come out slow again. What does Darren say to them before games and during half time? Sends them to sleep with his cliches.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: seteefeet on January 01, 2019, 04:13:58 PM
Terrible goal to concede, awful defending, where's Johnstone?
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: caravanc58 on January 01, 2019, 04:14:13 PM
walk defending again.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: WBAinDEVON on January 01, 2019, 04:14:36 PM
utterly shocking awful football
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on January 01, 2019, 04:15:13 PM
It's a freakish goal for the hosts with Mulgrew's whipped corner finding its way inside the back post from the left hand side. Johnstone and a host of other players end up in the back of the Albion net but the referee awards the goal.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: frazzle on January 01, 2019, 04:15:53 PM
Straight from a corner.

We have come out slow again. What does Darren say to them before games and during half time? Sends them to sleep with his cliches.

Your predictability sends me to sleep.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Political Cake on January 01, 2019, 04:16:12 PM
Blackburn Rovers  2 - 0  West Bromwich Albion

Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on January 01, 2019, 04:16:22 PM
Dropped down to 4th.
Come on lads, we can do it !
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: The Black Pearl on January 01, 2019, 04:17:46 PM
Defenders and keeper need to be much stronger, probably a foul though as well.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Pie on January 01, 2019, 04:18:04 PM
Eurghhhhhhh for god sake
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: gazberg on January 01, 2019, 04:18:07 PM
Great counter attack ffs, went from our corner into our net in 10 seconds. Lovely finish by Dack.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Andio on January 01, 2019, 04:18:15 PM
Why the hell are we committing so many men on a corner at this stage?!?

Shocking.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Fritzl Palace on January 01, 2019, 04:18:18 PM
This is just awful.

Moan all you want, Frazzle, I'm right. We're going to completely waste the perfect opportunity to win this league with Darren in charge
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Oldbury24 on January 01, 2019, 04:18:21 PM
No surprise, we looked very vulnerable on corners vs Wednesday.  Shouldn't be as we have decent height in the side.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: OldburyWBA on January 01, 2019, 04:18:27 PM
Shocking defending, made Bartley look a sunday league player
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: graka on January 01, 2019, 04:18:34 PM
Your predictability sends me to sleep.
Still doesn't hide the fact moore signed 2 awful players in Johnstone and Bartley.
Would you trust him to buy the right players to get us up?
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: alex1 on January 01, 2019, 04:18:38 PM
Very well taken goal from Dack. Looks class player.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: caravanc58 on January 01, 2019, 04:18:42 PM
all over the place. we've been poor all match.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: seteefeet on January 01, 2019, 04:18:48 PM
From the way it's been reported it seems reminiscent of Hull and Wigan away with not much happening. Hope we can up the tempo and get a goal before they do. Could be first goal wins it.
Where are the rumours 're Barnes?
Groundhog day.
Good day for Sheff Utd
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: mank baggie on January 01, 2019, 04:18:51 PM
Oh well
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Foster#1 on January 01, 2019, 04:20:00 PM
This is just awful.

Moan all you want, Frazzle, I'm right. We're going to completely waste the perfect opportunity to win this league with Darren in charge

Didn't you want want dean smith ?
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: gazberg on January 01, 2019, 04:20:06 PM
I can see Blackburn getting a 3rd  >:(
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on January 01, 2019, 04:20:14 PM
Both goals coming from over 20 yards away.
Where and what is Johnstone doing?
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: The Black Pearl on January 01, 2019, 04:20:51 PM
Shocking defending, made Bartley look a sunday league player

No change there then, awful player, no idea what we were doing signing him.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: baggies_24 on January 01, 2019, 04:21:02 PM
Tosin’s made their winger look like Ronaldo today
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Political Cake on January 01, 2019, 04:21:09 PM
Penalty to Albion
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Oldbury24 on January 01, 2019, 04:21:18 PM
Shocking defending, made Bartley look a sunday league player

Wanted to give him benefit of doubt playing in a back four but definite weak link that leaves us vulnerable. 
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: 17GD on January 01, 2019, 04:21:27 PM
Shocking defending, made Bartley look a sunday league player

Bartley is a sunday league player. He's arguably the worst central defender we've had. Up there with Meite easily.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: mig on January 01, 2019, 04:21:42 PM
The decision to rest key players vs Wednesday (who had won two on the bounce and should never have been taken lightly) is starting to look pretty silly now.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: geoff on January 01, 2019, 04:21:50 PM
Same old Albion when we play top teams we play well but against lower opposition we play crap. Same old same old
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Political Cake on January 01, 2019, 04:21:55 PM
Blackburn Rovers  2 - 1  West Bromwich Albion

Rodriguez (pen)
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: wba_1996 on January 01, 2019, 04:22:00 PM
Why do we never play well? And why are we so reliant on Gayle to the point that if he's out we might as well not bother turning up.

Results going perfectly for us again and we've turned out this sh*te again.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Fritzl Palace on January 01, 2019, 04:22:36 PM
Come on now Albion, salvage something from this woeful performance
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on January 01, 2019, 04:22:52 PM
The way back?
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: paulosull on January 01, 2019, 04:23:07 PM
Get in COYB.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Fritzl Palace on January 01, 2019, 04:23:38 PM
Bartley is a sunday league player. He's arguably the worst central defender we've had. Up there with Meite easily.

With Holgate coming in there is no excuse for Bartley ever featuring for us again. Wouldn't even give him the cup game.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: mank baggie on January 01, 2019, 04:24:14 PM
Ok back in it coyb
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on January 01, 2019, 04:24:43 PM
Any one fancy 2-3?
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: gazberg on January 01, 2019, 04:24:48 PM
Yep, we seem to have sprung to life a bit now.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: gazberg on January 01, 2019, 04:25:17 PM
Dack off, brilliant for us.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: caravanc58 on January 01, 2019, 04:25:30 PM
Gibbs should've equalised there.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Fritzl Palace on January 01, 2019, 04:30:09 PM
Leeds winning, we cannot afford to lose this.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: caravanc58 on January 01, 2019, 04:30:17 PM
keep feeding Barnes and we will get something from this.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: gazberg on January 01, 2019, 04:33:30 PM
Bartley is a donkey.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on January 01, 2019, 04:34:39 PM
Darren should have replaced Bartley and not Tosin.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Dan87uk on January 01, 2019, 04:35:40 PM
Notts F 2-2 Leeds now.

If we keep feeding it in to Barnes we'll keep the chances coming. Still worried about the sucker punch on the break from Blackburn though...
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: geoff on January 01, 2019, 04:36:56 PM
For rest winning 3 2
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: graka on January 01, 2019, 04:37:17 PM
Crying out for some pace off the bench like Burke, Edwards or leko.
Instead we have the usual suspects who he never brings on.
Clueless
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: 17GD on January 01, 2019, 04:37:23 PM
Notts F 2-2 Leeds now.

If we keep feeding it in to Barnes we'll keep the chances coming. Still worried about the sucker punch on the break from Blackburn though...

We need to get our use out of him maybe for the last time because he's going back to Leicester.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Oldbury24 on January 01, 2019, 04:39:25 PM
Sounds like we've lost the impetus....Hoolihan not an impact player from what I've seen of him.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on January 01, 2019, 04:40:56 PM
When Brunt takes a free kick...Has he ever heard of the term "Hard and Low"?
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: geoff on January 01, 2019, 04:41:05 PM
Forrest 4 _ 2
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Fritzl Palace on January 01, 2019, 04:41:23 PM
Sounds like we've lost the impetus....Hoolihan not an impact player from what I've seen of him.

Not quite sure what we're trying to do to be honest. Shape is gone.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: paulosull on January 01, 2019, 04:41:40 PM
Moore what are you doing  ???
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: cads_ap_albion on January 01, 2019, 04:41:59 PM
We need to get our use out of him maybe for the last time because he's going back to Leicester.

The quote said we will see.

Presume Hoolahan also had contract extension then?
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: seteefeet on January 01, 2019, 04:43:14 PM
Sounds like we've lost the impetus....Hoolihan not an impact player from what I've seen of him.
Bizarre sub. I'd be disappointed with that change it we were winning but to take off the only striker, and replace with a subbuteo player when 2-1 down is very strange.
Who's up front Kanu?
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: caravanc58 on January 01, 2019, 04:44:07 PM
Crying out for some pace off the bench like Burke, Edwards or leko.
Instead we have the usual suspects who he never brings on.
Clueless
he's brought pace on. Brunt and Hoolahan 😯
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Dan87uk on January 01, 2019, 04:44:26 PM
For those who missed it, subs were...

Livermore on for Tosin (61')
Brunt on for Morrison (61')
Hoolahan on for J-Rod (78')
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on January 01, 2019, 04:45:48 PM
For those who missed it, subs were...

Livermore on for Tosin (61')
Brunt on for Morrison (61')
Hoolahan on for J-Rod (78')
I must have miscounted...Have deleted my post.
Cheers for the heads up.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Political Cake on January 01, 2019, 04:45:55 PM
Livermore sent off
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: caravanc58 on January 01, 2019, 04:46:26 PM
Bartley is a donkey.

seconded.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: paulosull on January 01, 2019, 04:46:43 PM
Livermore off
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Oldbury24 on January 01, 2019, 04:47:10 PM
Livermore sent off

What is going on??
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Atomic on January 01, 2019, 04:48:22 PM
Just what we needed. Well done Jake.  >:( Idiot.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Fritzl Palace on January 01, 2019, 04:48:53 PM
We're all over the place. No organisation, no tactics, no clue...

In the week we should have gone top of the table, we remain 5 points behind and I'm told that everything is great and I should be happy...
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: MarkW on January 01, 2019, 04:49:13 PM
What was the red for?
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on January 01, 2019, 04:50:13 PM
What was the red for?
Quote from WBA site..
Livermore is dismissed following a clash with Travis. We'll need a replay of that one.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: frazzle on January 01, 2019, 04:50:20 PM
We're all over the place. No organisation, no tactics, no clue...

In the week we should have gone top of the table, we remain 5 points behind and I'm told that everything is great and I should be happy...

Well you weren’t happy when we were winning so you will hardly be happy now. Although I suspect you might actually quite enjoy this.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: BigFrank20 on January 01, 2019, 04:50:33 PM
What was the red for?
A suplex
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: gavinrussell on January 01, 2019, 04:50:47 PM
Norwich level...
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: graka on January 01, 2019, 04:51:02 PM
We don't deserve to go up. We must be the only club unwilling to give our own youngsters a chance.
Look at that bench. Bring has been pretty woeful all season. Then you have mears hoolihan and sackho who have done what exactly?
Moore was the cheap option which our club are famous for.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: cads_ap_albion on January 01, 2019, 04:51:25 PM
What was the red for?

Told he threw a punch.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: iwastherein68 on January 01, 2019, 04:52:07 PM
Well you weren’t happy when we were winning so you will hardly be happy now. Although I suspect you might actually quite enjoy this.
What a crass comment
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Fritzl Palace on January 01, 2019, 04:52:47 PM
Well you weren’t happy when we were winning so you will hardly be happy now. Although I suspect you might actually quite enjoy this.

Because we were making up the ground we had lost earlier in the season thanks to Darren and his 5 at the back and Brunt in midfield.

You might be happy with mediocrity, but sadly I am not. Behind Sheffield United now, look at their squad compared to ours. Our season thus far can be described as nothing but failure, to be 5 points off the top of the table with our side is an awful effort. Thankfully not as awful as Stoke, but then I would never have wanted Rowett as manager so that's irrelevant.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: frazzle on January 01, 2019, 04:53:28 PM
What a crass comment

A fair enough response to the constant unrelenting bashing of Moore.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: wbarenno on January 01, 2019, 04:54:09 PM
Because we were making up the ground we had lost earlier in the season thanks to Darren and his 5 at the back and Brunt in midfield.

You might be happy with mediocrity, but sadly I am not. Behind Sheffield United now, look at their squad compared to ours. Our season thus far can be described as nothing but failure, to be 5 points off the top of the table with our side is an awful effort. Thankfully not as awful as Stoke, but then I would never have wanted Rowett as manager so that's irrelevant.

Calm down mate it’s the first game we’ve lost in 9 and could go in the top 2 if we win our next game
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on January 01, 2019, 04:54:15 PM
Yes. Too many old men with tired legs on the pitch, no wonder they have to foul.
We collect yellow cards like conffetti
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Fritzl Palace on January 01, 2019, 04:54:44 PM
Calm down mate it’s the first game we’ve lost in 9 and could go in the top 2 if we win our next game

If. If. If. If. If.

We'd have been in the top two if we'd won either of our last two against two poor sides...
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: The Black Pearl on January 01, 2019, 04:55:19 PM
We don't deserve to go up. We must be the only club unwilling to give our own youngsters a chance.
Look at that bench. Bring has been pretty woeful all season. Then you have mears hoolihan and sackho who have done what exactly?
Moore was the cheap option which our club are famous for.

I have to agree with this, youngsters being given no chance is an absolute disgrace a totally short sighted, especially when the bench contains players who offer nothing.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Political Cake on January 01, 2019, 04:55:52 PM
Full Time

Blackburn Rovers  2 - 1  West Bromwich Albion
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: tuamigos on January 01, 2019, 04:57:47 PM
Sits avidly waiting for the meltdown  :(

Not as bad as it could have been, Leeds lost and Norwich only drew.
Only downer is Sheff Utd winning
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: Jimmy on January 01, 2019, 04:58:46 PM
Damn that is disappointing.

Didnt get to watch the first half but sounds like we didnt turn up?

Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: Fritzl Palace on January 01, 2019, 04:58:57 PM
No point reiterating my earlier points. 1 point out of 6 from those two game just is not good enough. I'd await Darren's analysis of it, but we all know there will be no analysis from him, there never is.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: frazzle on January 01, 2019, 04:59:16 PM
I guess the run couldn’t go on forever. Potentially losing Barnes is more important that losing this game I think and is the bigger worry for me.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: wbarenno on January 01, 2019, 04:59:28 PM
There shouldn’t be any meltdown, we’ve had a fantastic run, it was going to come to an end eventually. We haven’t lost any ground on the top 2. Norwich game is now a big one
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: frazzle on January 01, 2019, 04:59:51 PM
No point reiterating my earlier points. 1 point out of 6 from those two game just is not good enough. I'd await Darren's analysis of it, but we all know there will be no analysis from him, there never is.

Which means you can continue with the vendetta. All good.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: seteefeet on January 01, 2019, 05:00:53 PM
End of a great run but, have to admit, those subs appeared absolutely shocking. The only area that Moore does not seem to be able to manage.
Oh well, not the end of the world.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: Dexy on January 01, 2019, 05:01:17 PM
Damn that is disappointing.

Didnt get to watch the first half but sounds like we didnt turn up?
Bad defending for both goals , the forwards looked flat all game even Barnes. To me it shows when we miss a few players or can't give them a break we just have nothing of quality to come in .
No complaints from me , we have done well enough lately and most suspected we'd slip when the games caught up .
On to the next one , decent break and regroup.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: Fritzl Palace on January 01, 2019, 05:01:58 PM
Which means you can continue with the vendetta. All good.

You need to stop being so cynical, it is unhealthy for you, and very tedious for all concerned.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: Dan87uk on January 01, 2019, 05:02:18 PM
No point reiterating my earlier points. 1 point out of 6 from those two game just is not good enough. I'd await Darren's analysis of it, but we all know there will be no analysis from him, there never is.

He'll "go back and pick the bones out of it"  ;D
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: albion59 on January 01, 2019, 05:02:55 PM
No point reiterating my earlier points. 1 point out of 6 from those two game just is not good enough. I'd await Darren's analysis of it, but we all know there will be no analysis from him, there never is.
Just lay off Darren Moore mate you are getting embarrassing now. You don't like him and didn't want him we all get it  and that's your right but bloody hell.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: paulosull on January 01, 2019, 05:03:11 PM
Gave the old age pensioners a run bless and don't forget the Sunday league centre halve. Moore again costing us points with his team selection and BAFFIING use of bench.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: Fritzl Palace on January 01, 2019, 05:04:32 PM
Just lay off Darren Moore mate you are getting embarrassing now. You don't like him and didn't want him we all get it  and that's your right but bloody he'll.

I was told the same with my views on Pulis, then strangely enough months down the line everyone was saying the same...

I call things as I see them. Will never apologise for giving my honest opinion on an internet forum.

As an aside, I really do like Darren, club legend who has given me some of my happiest memories as an Albion fan, just not as our manager/head coach.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: Andio on January 01, 2019, 05:05:25 PM
Without Gayle we are stuffed, not usually an advocate of the one man team saying but without Gayle we look very average.

Add to that Barnes going out of form (teams have worked him/us out) and it's not looking very rosy in our garden all of a sudden.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: wba_1996 on January 01, 2019, 05:05:42 PM
We've got our work cut out getting promoted under Moore, thankfully other results have been going our way so we've still got a chance.

I've been saying it all season, Moore is way out of his depth and we've been a poor team who rely on quality from Gayle and Barnes to get him out of jail. One's injured and the other might be getting recalled this month, extremely concerning.

Fail to beat Norwich next league game and its looking like playoffs.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: koren on January 01, 2019, 05:05:52 PM
Top 2 both drop points today, we missed a good chance.
Soft goals conceded and a stupid red card made the game became very difficult.
Shift Philips to right back is a wise move but then the midfield was so slow...Barry, Brunt, Livermore and Hoolahan.
Sako should be the the last sub to bring on.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: maximus on January 01, 2019, 05:06:13 PM
Those 3 subs says it all, Not to mention Barry/Morrison in their 30's, Livermores alright but we could find better. Either way it proves were pretty awful when Gayle/Barnes don't bail us out again. Money needs to be spent in that midfield but we wont, We'll stick with the pensioners again.

Last 2 results have shown this league will go down too the wire for the top 2 positions.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: CL3MO on January 01, 2019, 05:06:17 PM
Terrible result that. What an opportunity we have had these last two games - facing a poor Sheff Wed and woefully out-of-form Blackburn - to cement our place in the top two or even go top.

I've also got to echo what many others on here are saying about our youngsters. It's games like this, where we have a bench full of old, leggy footballers, where I sit back and wish we would have had a plan with Field, Harper, Edwards, etc. in pre-season.

Things that need to change asap:

Bartley. I honestly don't think he's had a good game (anything above a 6 out of 10) since he has been at this club.
Tosin. No team with him at RB is going to go up. Simple as that.

Holgate won't have to work hard to get into this back line.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: tuamigos on January 01, 2019, 05:06:33 PM
Gave the old age pensioners a run bless and don't forget the Sunday league centre halve. Moore again costing us points with his team selection and BAFFIING use of bench.

Just a matter of time before Boiler Man makes an appearance Id say
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: gavinrussell on January 01, 2019, 05:07:08 PM
Gave the old age pensioners a run bless and don't forget the Sunday league centre halve. Moore again costing us points with his team selection and BAFFIING use of bench.
Must admit I really couldn't see what the subs were meant to achieve..any shape we had went straight out of the window..even the players looked baffled...
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: alex1 on January 01, 2019, 05:07:19 PM
In the end, could have gone either way. We were the better side after the 2-1. Phillips and Barnes worked hard to set up chances, but we just didn't get the breaks. Missing Gayle. Blackburn bogstandard mid table outfit. Livermore red looked justified. 
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: graka on January 01, 2019, 05:07:54 PM
I still stand by my initial thoughts Darren Moore having that good run whilst in the premier League was the worst thing that could have happened he is woefully out of his depth.
I do sympathise with him because he hasn't been backed financially but in a way that's a good thing because his permanent signings have been shocking.
Also his unwillingness to use any of our younger players at least from the bench yet still picks hoolihan, mears and sakho who have done nothing.
Continually playing a centre half who isn't good at enough at right back and brunt in central midfield
He is not the man to get us promoted or to take us forward
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: tommcneill on January 01, 2019, 05:08:48 PM
Poor today...really poor

Flat performance.

No intensity at all.

Subs were baffling to say the least

Not a happy Away day
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: WBArgo on January 01, 2019, 05:10:11 PM
I know it's not the biggest issue ever, but why does Johnstone NEVER go forward for last minute corners when we're losing by a single goal?

It's happened throughout the season, at worst you lose 3-1, at best he makes it 2-2.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: alex1 on January 01, 2019, 05:13:18 PM
Top 2 both drop points today, we missed a good chance.
Soft goals conceded and a stupid red card made the game became very difficult.
Shift Philips to right back is a wise move but then the midfield was so slow...Barry, Brunt, Livermore and Hoolahan.
Sako should be the the last sub to bring on.
Completly disagree although Tosin was getting skinned by Blackburn winger.
Phillips was our most dangerous player, getting past his full back every time. Set up 5 or 6 very decent chances which our strikers couldn't convert.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: Fritzl Palace on January 01, 2019, 05:13:53 PM
I know it's not the biggest issue ever, but why does Johnstone NEVER go forward for last minute corners when we're losing by a single goal?

It's happened throughout the season, at worst you lose 3-1, at best he makes it 2-2.

He was stood on the halfway line in the last minute against Sheff Wed and was looking to the bench for the OK to head up for the corner and it never came.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: Dexy on January 01, 2019, 05:14:06 PM
Gave the old age pensioners a run bless and don't forget the Sunday league centre halve. Moore again costing us points with his team selection and BAFFIING use of bench.
Who really is there on the bench to call on ? , Sako you could say but hasn't looked like it at all so far . The kids ? , Burke looks like he hasn't go a footballers brain , Leko hasn't proved anything anywhere , Harper maybe ? .
A lot of our problem goes back to the Summer and lack of money given to Moore hence the thin , old squad.
You blame Bartley for Today but he was Ok IMO , Gibbs was at fault for the 2nd and had a poor game overall by his standards.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: paulosull on January 01, 2019, 05:14:16 PM
Must admit I really couldn't see what the subs were meant to achieve..any shape we had went straight out of the window..even the players looked baffled...
well he has to get contract extensions for his mates, that's Wes here for rest of season with one year contract extensions for Morrison and Brunt. Myhill will get a run out next week to get another year.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: Oldbury24 on January 01, 2019, 05:15:27 PM
A dissapointing week!  But no need for meltdown its just time to reassess and go again.   

Take away a couple of key players in Gayle and Hegazi and we are struggling again in both boxes.   The idea behind the player rotation in midfield is a good one as there are old legs in there but it has undoubtedly back fired.   Barry, Livermore and Phillips have good balance, but any other combination does not.  Big match coming up.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: Brombo97 on January 01, 2019, 05:18:30 PM
Very disappointing. The bench and then the subs used were just incomprehensible.  At this stage of the season we ought to be utilising some of the youthful energy available to us, they're surely better than the underperforming over 30 fringe players. Not giving any of them a chance when we were 4-0 up against Rotherham for example was unforgivable.
We are desperately short of of quality in midfield, continually suspect in defence and have a manager who seems to lack awareness. I don't think there's much chance of automatic promotion as things stand. 
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: wodenson46 on January 01, 2019, 05:19:02 PM
Poor defending, both the usual suspects poor again today. Poor team selection as well, Unfortunately at present there seems no option but to select Bartley when a defender is out and when him and Johnston are in the same team our defence looks very poor. Do not wish to be over critical of DM but using only old men from the bench gives a poor message for our youngsters, particularly Harper. They may not be ready or may not be good enough but how are we to find out? A player like Sako can be a game changer but not if he only gets a game here or there, and again are given very little opportunity. What was the point of Hoolahan or Brunt as subs when we are chasing a game? Ok not the end of the world but feels a frustrating loss when even without Gale and Hegazi we should be getting something from these teams. Just heard that Lsop Franksy on wm gloating that we have lost ground on the leaders? Wishful thinking hyperbole
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: Dexy on January 01, 2019, 05:19:17 PM
A dissapointing week!  But no need for meltdown its just time to reassess and go again.   

Take away a couple of key players in Gayle and Hegazi and we are struggling again in both boxes.   The idea behind the player rotation in midfield is a good one as there are old legs in there but it has undoubtedly back fired.   Barry, Livermore and Phillips have good balance, but any other combination does not.  Big match coming up.
Very well put , we have no right to win every week .
Weeks like this happen in this league , its how you respond.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: miggybaggy on January 01, 2019, 05:30:02 PM
Results like todays highlight just how significant the January window will be....we'll see the level of intent from the board. For me, we need someone like Dack in the middle and another striker......but not on loans. The current over-reliance on Barnes and Gayle is a huge problem in the long term.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: iwastherein68 on January 01, 2019, 05:30:38 PM
I still stand by my initial thoughts Darren Moore having that good run whilst in the premier League was the worst thing that could have happened he is woefully out of his depth.
I do sympathise with him because he hasn't been backed financially but in a way that's a good thing because his permanent signings have been shocking.
Also his unwillingness to use any of our younger players at least from the bench yet still picks hoolihan, mears and sakho who have done nothing.
Continually playing a centre half who isn't good at enough at right back and brunt in central midfield
He is not the man to get us promoted or to take us forward
Very well summed up .
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: NathWBA on January 01, 2019, 05:33:07 PM
Livermore’s red card seems ridiculous, he hasn’t struck the player or kicked him it’s just sheer petulance, you see it week in week out with pushing, I can see why they may class it as violent conduct but it’s not malicious at all.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: paulosull on January 01, 2019, 05:35:55 PM
Results like todays highlight just how significant the January window will be....we'll see the level of intent from the board. For me, we need someone like Dack in the middle and another striker......but not on loans. The current over-reliance on Barnes and Gayle is a huge problem in the long term.
we won't sign any one permanent in this window unless it's a freebie so if your going down your local post office you might see our recruitment team trying to sign a few pensioners
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: TheJacko2000 on January 01, 2019, 05:37:10 PM
I know it's not the biggest issue ever, but why does Johnstone NEVER go forward for last minute corners when we're losing by a single goal?

It's happened throughout the season, at worst you lose 3-1, at best he makes it 2-2.


No point he just let's corners go...  ;D
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: paulosull on January 01, 2019, 05:38:04 PM
Livermore’s red card seems ridiculous, he has struck the player or kicked him it’s just sheer petulance, you see it week in week out with pushing, I can see why they may class it as violent conduct but it’s not malicious at all.
3 match ban for him the idiot needs to be fined three weeks wages
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: TheJacko2000 on January 01, 2019, 05:41:14 PM
In the car on the short drive home, we were bang average today and the key moments were an embarrassing mistake by our (poor) goalkeeper and then their best player coming up against our worst player, mugging him off and slotting. Livermore is a disgrace as well as a creative vacuum and yet if Gibbs and then Dawson score easy chances we win the game.


Onwards to Norwich!!
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: alex1 on January 01, 2019, 05:45:03 PM
3 match ban for him the idiot needs to be fined three weeks wages
I think its 4 matches because its his second red.
Whatever provocation, no excuse. Will leave us short for defensive midfield.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: NathWBA on January 01, 2019, 05:47:53 PM
3 match ban for him the idiot needs to be fined three weeks wages
he’s given the ref a decision to make but the Blackburn player holding his face is embarrassing, players like this need to be banned themselves, I think a yellow would have been fair, how can a petulant shove to the floor now be a red card, it happens regularly.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: Oldbury24 on January 01, 2019, 05:49:02 PM
I still stand by my initial thoughts Darren Moore having that good run whilst in the premier League was the worst thing that could have happened he is woefully out of his depth.
I do sympathise with him because he hasn't been backed financially but in a way that's a good thing because his permanent signings have been shocking.
Also his unwillingness to use any of our younger players at least from the bench yet still picks hoolihan, mears and sakho who have done nothing.
Continually playing a centre half who isn't good at enough at right back and brunt in central midfield
He is not the man to get us promoted or to take us forward

I was at a New Years shin dig last night with a number of Albion fans and every one bar none was loving having Darren Moore as manager.  He has made mistakes but undoubtedly has real potential as a coach and shown real man management skills to get performances out of players like Dawson and Gibbs I just did not expect.   This is a ageing, slow and uncreative squad sprinkled with talented loanees now playing decent football most of the time. I see no reason to think we would do any better under any other coach available and fully expect us to be in the mix at the end of the season.

I would agree that there is frustration in not using younger players from the bench, particularly Harper for me.  However in my experience apart from the odd once in a generation player few kids have real impact in the top two divisions.   The success of Roofs points against this but he had to earn his chance to play at a bigger club.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: paulosull on January 01, 2019, 05:49:22 PM
I think its 4 matches because its his second red.
Whatever provocation, no excuse. Will leave us short for defensive midfield.
well fine him 4 weeks wages
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: alex1 on January 01, 2019, 05:51:58 PM
he’s given the ref a decision to make but the Blackburn player holding his face is embarrassing, players like this need to be banned themselves, I think a yellow would have been fair, how can a petulant shove to the floor now be a red card, it happens regularly.
Shortly afterwards, a Blackburn forward tried it on again, falling to the ground clutching his face after a nothing challenge from Johnstone.  For which he was rightly booked.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: koren on January 01, 2019, 06:01:07 PM
I was at a New Years shin dig last night with a number of Albion fans and every one bar none was loving having Darren Moore as manager.  He has made mistakes but undoubtedly has real potential as a coach and shown real man management skills to get performances out of players like Dawson and Gibbs I just did not expect.   This is a ageing, slow and uncreative squad sprinkled with talented loanees now playing decent football most of the time. I see no reason to think we would do any better under any other coach available and fully expect us to be in the mix at the end of the season.
We have some young and creative players, but all of them are in the reserve squad.
Especially Field, he should be on the bench at least.
He may contribute more than Brunt at the central midfield.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: BoingFlyer on January 01, 2019, 06:03:17 PM
I was at a New Years shin dig last night with a number of Albion fans and every one bar none was loving having Darren Moore as manager.  He has made mistakes but undoubtedly has real potential as a coach and shown real man management skills to get performances out of players like Dawson and Gibbs I just did not expect.   This is a ageing, slow and uncreative squad sprinkled with talented loanees now playing decent football most of the time. I see no reason to think we would do any better under any other coach available and fully expect us to be in the mix at the end of the season.

I would agree that there is frustration in not using younger players from the bench, particularly Harper for me.  However in my experience apart from the odd once in a generation player few kids have real impact in the top two divisions.   The success of Roofs points against this but he had to earn his chance to play at a bigger club.

Roofe had been loaned out multiple times and failed to impress until he went to Oxford where he earnt himself a permanent move. Nothing suggested prior to that he was anything other than a top league two player. Really pleased that he has developed into a great player but he would never have done that if he had stayed in our reserves.

In terms of the other youngsters I have yet to see any of them to take there (limited) chances to force thereway into the team. Moore will see them in training every week, training with the first team, and I trust his judgement of them. They are regulars on the bench which is closer than many of them have been to the first team before.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: richjonawba on January 01, 2019, 06:04:43 PM
he’s given the ref a decision to make but the Blackburn player holding his face is embarrassing, players like this need to be banned themselves, I think a yellow would have been fair, how can a petulant shove to the floor now be a red card, it happens regularly.

Definitely more than a petulant shove to the floor, definitely a red, definitely stupid in my opinion

https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/competitions/championship/11596268/blackburn-2-1-west-brom
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: Oldbury24 on January 01, 2019, 06:10:10 PM
We have some young and creative players, but all of them are in the reserve squad.
Especially Field, he should be on the bench at least.
He may contribute more than Brunt at the central midfield.

I would love to see SF make it here and he seems to have real qualities.  However he has now been overlooked by Pullis, Pardew and Moore.  When he was given a chance he had a poor game and although that does seem somewhat unfair to just be thrown in and show what you can do.... thats how football works.

I would like to see Harper and was excited by Edwards cameo earlier in the season. 
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: KN22 on January 01, 2019, 06:16:44 PM
I find the negativity on here really disappointing. We have lost  one game in 10. I keep reading that we should be doing so much better with this squad of players. Why should we? In my view we have just 2 players who are a clas above, neither of whom are employed by ourselves. Why is the bench a poor option? Due to under investment by the club. Why not use the youngsters? Because based on what we have seen they are not good enough.
We are well ensconced in the play off places after 26 games, maybe we should recalibrate expectation levels. Just my opinion.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: wbarenno on January 01, 2019, 06:23:55 PM
I find the negativity on here really disappointing. We have lost  one game in 10. I keep reading that we should be doing so much better with this squad of players. Why should we? In my view we have just 2 players who are a clas above, neither of whom are employed by ourselves. Why is the bench a poor option? Due to under investment by the club. Why not use the youngsters? Because based on what we have seen they are not good enough.
We are well ensconced in the play off places after 26 games, maybe we should recalibrate expectation levels. Just my opinion.

100% agree mate, clubs just being drained from the stench of pulis and we’re one win away from the top 2.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: Bilston Dan on January 01, 2019, 06:27:10 PM
A very poor showing today. Hopefully we can put this behind us and move on. We were very slow in midfield and had no pace going forward. I thought it would be a tough game going into it. I haven't seen the red card yet, so I'll have to comment on that at another point.

The thing is we're still in a pretty good position, it's a shame we couldn't pick up 3 points today which would have gotten us within less distance of Norwich and Leeds. I think our quality will show through, it's just a blip. If we play like that again though, teams will fancy themselves against us all day.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: OldburyWBA on January 01, 2019, 06:30:23 PM
Definitely more than a petulant shove to the floor, definitely a red, definitely stupid in my opinion

https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/competitions/championship/11596268/blackburn-2-1-west-brom

The rolling around holding his face is embarrassing and he deserves a red for that but no way will Livermore escape a ban for throwing him down
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: BoingFlyer on January 01, 2019, 06:33:30 PM
The rolling around holding his face is embarrassing and he deserves a red for that but no way will Livermore escape a ban for throwing him down

Its an odd one, it looked more of a Judo throw where the other player smashed him with his shoulder/face and he has used the momentum  to roll him to the floor. You're right it won't get over turned.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: halifax_baggie on January 01, 2019, 06:40:00 PM
You need to stop being so cynical, it is unhealthy for you, and very tedious for all concerned.

Did you go today, if so perhaps your comments carry some weight, if not  just stop your propaganda and give positive support your team


Maybe you are a troll anyway 8)
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: halifax_baggie on January 01, 2019, 06:54:37 PM
Its an odd one, it looked more of a Judo throw where the other player smashed him with his shoulder/face and he has used the momentum  to roll him to the floor. You're right it won't get over turned.

That's how I saw it, but the ref was being conned all throughout the game by Blackburn players throwing themselves to the floor, particularly the booking for our right back(as poor as he was)when the winger went on the outside to beat him for pace, didn't and fell over gaining a foul and booking.

The standard of refereeing in this division is appallingly bad ;D
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: frazzle on January 01, 2019, 06:56:32 PM
You need to stop being so cynical, it is unhealthy for you, and very tedious for all concerned.

I’m not being cynical.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: Fritzl Palace on January 01, 2019, 07:02:35 PM
Did you go today, if so perhaps your comments carry some weight, if not  just stop your propaganda and give positive support your team


Maybe you are a troll anyway 8)

How very grown up of you... go to every game or you cannot possibly offer a valid opinion.

Watched the entire game, saw it all, you do actually get a better view watching it through a TV camera in fairness  ;)

Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on January 01, 2019, 07:05:18 PM
That's how I saw it, but the ref was being conned all throughout the game by Blackburn players throwing themselves to the floor, particularly the booking for our right back(as poor as he was)when the winger went on the outside to beat him for pace, didn't and fell over gaining a foul and booking.

The standard of refereeing in this division is appallingly bad ;D
So many of you have said this.
I have watched a few streams and I can only agree witrh the posters.
Football is a contact sport. Shouldering a player off the ball should be considered a fair tackle, but these refs are "delicate", perhaps they should all wear pink and frilly knickers.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: GREGMT on January 01, 2019, 07:10:21 PM
I find the negativity on here really disappointing. We have lost  one game in 10. I keep reading that we should be doing so much better with this squad of players. Why should we? In my view we have just 2 players who are a clas above, neither of whom are employed by ourselves. Why is the bench a poor option? Due to under investment by the club. Why not use the youngsters? Because based on what we have seen they are not good enough.
We are well ensconced in the play off places after 26 games, maybe we should recalibrate expectation levels. Just my opinion.

We've beat all of the Top 3 deservedly so.  What makes you think play offs is acceptable?

I wouldn't swap our squad with anyone else.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: KN22 on January 01, 2019, 07:32:18 PM
We've beat all of the Top 3 deservedly so.  What makes you think play offs is acceptable?

I wouldn't swap our squad with anyone else.

My view is that play offs would be an achievement and I am entitled to that view. It is based upon the fact that we have an ageing squad and are still getting used to life after Pulis. I love the club and have done for 50 years now. It’s all about opinions and I would love a top 2 finish. Let’s hope I am wrong in expecting less than that.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: Windmill Baggy on January 01, 2019, 07:35:25 PM
So many of you have said this.
I have watched a few streams and I can only agree witrh the posters.
Football is a contact sport. Shouldering a player off the ball should be considered a fair tackle, but these refs are "delicate", perhaps they should all wear pink and frilly knickers.

If you think the refs in this division are bad, then you want to see them at work in League 2!  :o
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: GREGMT on January 01, 2019, 07:38:07 PM
My view is that play offs would be an achievement and I am entitled to that view. It is based upon the fact that we have an ageing squad and are still getting used to life after Pulis. I love the club and have done for 50 years now. It’s all about opinions and I would love a top 2 finish. Let’s hope I am wrong in expecting less than that.

You are certainly entitled to that opinion.

However the financial gulf between the teams relegated from the Premier and the standard Championship teams is huge.

As things stand all 3 above us are at a financial disadvantage.  So for me my standard is for us to win the division.  We should not feel inferior to anyone this season.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: iwastherein68 on January 01, 2019, 07:41:55 PM
You are certainly entitled to that opinion.

However the financial gulf between the teams relegated from the Premier and the standard Championship teams is huge.

As things stand all 3 above us are at a financial disadvantage.  So for me my standard is for us to win the division.  We should not feel inferior to anyone this season.
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Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: BoingFlyer on January 01, 2019, 07:42:18 PM
You are certainly entitled to that opinion.

However the financial gulf between the teams relegated from the Premier and the standard Championship teams is huge.

As things stand all 3 above us are at a financial disadvantage.  So for me my standard is for us to win the division.  We should not feel inferior to anyone this season.

Ask Stoke or Swansea (or Hull, Sunderland, Boro) fans how the transition from prem to championship and winning the league on the bounce is going. Having financial clout counts for nothing when rebuilding and refocusing a team. Something which Darren has done superbly.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: johnny Cash on January 01, 2019, 07:49:06 PM
Ask Stoke or Swansea (or Hull, Sunderland, Boro) fans how the transition from prem to championship and winning the league on the bounce is going. Having financial clout counts for nothing when rebuilding and refocusing a team. Something which Darren has done superbly.

Of course financial clout counts for something
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: ex coseley kid on January 01, 2019, 07:54:32 PM
I find the negativity on here really disappointing. We have lost  one game in 10. I keep reading that we should be doing so much better with this squad of players. Why should we? In my view we have just 2 players who are a clas above, neither of whom are employed by ourselves. Why is the bench a poor option? Due to under investment by the club. Why not use the youngsters? Because based on what we have seen they are not good enough.
We are well ensconced in the play off places after 26 games, maybe we should recalibrate expectation levels. Just my opinion.

Snap. Well said. And sometimes I think I'd rather be 'thereabouts' in this league than that pointless one where unless you're top six forget it. Bloody money ruins everything.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: NathWBA on January 01, 2019, 08:01:24 PM
Definitely more than a petulant shove to the floor, definitely a red, definitely stupid in my opinion

https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/competitions/championship/11596268/blackburn-2-1-west-brom
it’s hardly anything more than a pull back you see every week, a red card is harsh in my opinion.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: hardtobeat on January 01, 2019, 08:10:35 PM
No beating about the bush , today we were beaten by a team that passed the ball better than us and moved off the ball better a lesson that needs to be absorbed and learnt from quickly or else there will be precious few points gleaned away from home in the next few weeks
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: halifax_baggie on January 01, 2019, 08:12:01 PM
How very grown up of you... go to every game or you cannot possibly offer a valid opinion.

Watched the entire game, saw it all, you do actually get a better view watching it through a TV camera in fairness  ;)

I guarantee I was closer to the action than you and see things that the cameras who tend to follow the ball do not.

It seems you don't accept critiscm as shown by your reply, did you get that from kindergarten when you left last year. Thanks for leaving the mature comments to the grown ups ;D
 ;D
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: GREGMT on January 01, 2019, 08:45:57 PM
Ask Stoke or Swansea (or Hull, Sunderland, Boro) fans how the transition from prem to championship and winning the league on the bounce is going. Having financial clout counts for nothing when rebuilding and refocusing a team. Something which Darren has done superbly.

Forgot other teams.  We resisted bids for JRod, Dawson amongst others in the Summer.  Credit to Jenkins for that.  He has put Moore in a healthy state for promotion. 

The other clubs probably had a fire sale on relegation.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: Fritzl Palace on January 01, 2019, 08:56:57 PM
I guarantee I was closer to the action than you and see things that the cameras who tend to follow the ball do not.

It seems you don't accept critiscm as shown by your reply, did you get that from kindergarten when you left last year. Thanks for leaving the mature comments to the grown ups ;D
 ;D

#cringe.

No issue with criticism, just not sure what the criticism is supposed to be. Having a different opinion to some? Having the audacity to voice my opinion? I have no issue with people disagreeing with my opinion, all I expect with any opinion is that people articulate it. Your two posts in my direction have articulated precisely nothing.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: OldburyWBA on January 01, 2019, 09:00:44 PM
How about the pair of you cut the childish stuff out and start commenting like the grown ups you are supposed to be ?
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: wbako on January 01, 2019, 09:07:59 PM
Shambolic defending cost us today. Why Bartley felt the need to give an entirely avoidable corner away before his non-attempt at getting close to Dack before his goal is beyond me; Hegazi is 100x the defender this impostor is. Honourable mentions to Johnstone and Gibbs for contributing to both goals by the way.

I actually thought we were the better team with Phillips and Barry our standout performers, as usual.

As for the Blackburn 'fans' - shocking. Apart from the 20 or so to our left, the rest of the stadium should hang their heads in shame.

Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: beechyboy90 on January 01, 2019, 09:17:17 PM
Today highlights how blunt we are without Gayle. It shows Hegazi is a huge player for us. Shows we really lack in midfield (Barnes and Phillips being relied on too much are jaded). Our bench is very weak and sako still can't get game time. We still have deadwood taking up funds and places. Wish the manager would give the kids a go.

We haven't lost ground on Leeds. Norwich game biggest of season and probably defines if we have a chance for automatic or if we are destined for playoffs
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: Aussie Baggie on January 01, 2019, 10:16:55 PM
Today was definitely a disappointing result and to be honest I was expecting it.

One of the few times I didn’t stay up to 2am and follow the game, just had this thought we’d be up against it.

It’s been a tough schedule and when you look back at it, to only lose one game is admirable.

But going forward we have some issues. Gayle and Hegazi injured, Livermore suspended, Barnes out of form and by all reports about to be recalled, an aging midfield and youngsters who aren’t quite up to it.

When you put all that together it’s a bit of a miracle that we’re only three points away from the automatic promotion places. Swansea and Stoke are really struggling so compared to them we’re doing ok.

Is Darren Moore the answer? I honestly don’t know the answer to that question.

A lot of people on here continually give him grief but don’t make any suggestions on who replaces him. I think he deserves to see out the season and see where we finish. If we don’t make the play offs, there’s always next season. It’s always a tough ask to bounce back to the PL.

And again to be honest, if we did get promoted, there’s a good chance we’re going to get relegated again.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: caravanc58 on January 01, 2019, 10:21:02 PM
disappointing result considering how the top 2 got on.we were very lethargic first 45 and conceded a goal that really shouldn't be seen at this level. second half we should have equalised with Gibbs missing a great chance. the subs i don't get at all, they didn't alter the game in our favour in fact I think it slowed us down.
it's a team game and several players were poor today
Bartley a shadow of the player at Leeds last season.
HRK, I ain't a pro footballer or coach but he must be so easy to defend against. he tries the same thing over and over again, just gets his back to goal and tries to spin away but he's not quick enough so coach him to do something that contributes to the team.
Johnstone, bloke scares me every time the balls played to him.
Brunt yet again ends up in CM, how many times does it have to fail to get it.
IF Barnes gets recalled and Gayle is side lined for a length of time I think we'd struggle to make the play offs.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: Windmill Baggy on January 02, 2019, 12:20:12 AM
disappointing result considering how the top 2 got on.we were very lethargic first 45 and conceded a goal that really shouldn't be seen at this level. second half we should have equalised with Gibbs missing a great chance. the subs i don't get at all, they didn't alter the game in our favour in fact I think it slowed us down.
it's a team game and several players were poor today
Bartley a shadow of the player at Leeds last season.
HRK, I ain't a pro footballer or coach but he must be so easy to defend against. he tries the same thing over and over again, just gets his back to goal and tries to spin away but he's not quick enough so coach him to do something that contributes to the team.
Johnstone, bloke scares me every time the balls played to him.
Brunt yet again ends up in CM, how many times does it have to fail to get it.
IF Barnes gets recalled and Gayle is side lined for a length of time I think we'd struggle to make the play offs.

You could pick just about any team in the league and say if they lost 2 of their best 3 or 4 players they would struggle. If Sharp at Sheffield Utd, Wilson at Derby, Pukki at Norwich, Grealish at Villa (see how their results have slipped with his injury) and Roofe at Leeds were to get injured it would be a devastating blow to their promotion hopes. All are in the same boat as us in that regard.

Philips is our best all round attacking player anyway!

Bartley, HRK and Brunt are bench players and  I'm guessing we'll be seeing even less of them after a few more signings are made this month.

Johnstone is as good as any keeper in the league.

Today was a disappointment but I half expected a Blackburn response to their recent run of form. There are no easy games in this league especially away from home and our run had to come to an end at some point. What's important now is how the team respond against Norwich.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: baggieboyfred on January 02, 2019, 04:36:31 AM
Great oppprtunity lost over last couple of games to be in the vanguard of the division Norwich have struggled to Produce a consistent run of results Leeds have been getting a way with it for the last few games finally losing 2 on the bounce and here we are unable to take advantage by dropping points ourselves we know there is no consistent team in the division so if you want auto pro then you must keep the consistency going the most worrying thing to me is that when Gayle is out Barnes struggles to be involved and all of a sudden we look mid table the club must get 2 or 3 quality players in especially midfield holgate reasonable r b  or central defender is a start but we must keep in that top 3 or 4 front runners because this will go to the wire
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: Atomic on January 02, 2019, 08:44:12 AM
Ok I've waited till this morning to post so I'm not making emotive points. I didn't see the game just the highlights on Quest so I'll comment on what I did see.

Their first goal - What the hell is Johnstone doing? I'm sorry but that corner just cannot go in. Awful goalkeeping.

Their second goal - superbly taken by Dack to be fair. Their boy Armstrong should've been stopped on the touchline though. Take the yellow card if you have to but that attack has to be stopped there. After that Bartley chases back but instead of forming a barrier or making Dack rush his shot he backs of practically onto Johnstones lap. Ridiculous defending.

Red card- stupid from Livermore and not the first time he's done that. However, it shouldn't be a red. It wasn't a punch, more of a throw. A yellow would've been justified. The Blackburn player lying on the floor holding his face looks a right tit.

Poor result and not the best of performances from what I understand but not the end of the world. We pick ourselves up and prepare for our next game.

Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: BoingFlyer on January 02, 2019, 08:56:13 AM
Ok I've waited till this morning to post so I'm not making emotive points. I didn't see the game just the highlights on Quest so I'll comment on what I did see.

Their first goal - What the hell is Johnstone doing? I'm sorry but that corner just cannot go in. Awful goalkeeping.

Their second goal - superbly taken by Dack to be fair. Their boy Armstrong should've been stopped on the touchline though. Take the yellow card if you have to but that attack has to be stopped there. After that Bartley chases back but instead of forming a barrier or making Dack rush his shot he backs of practically onto Johnstones lap. Ridiculous defending.

Red card- stupid from Livermore and not the first time he's done that. However, it shouldn't be a red. It wasn't a punch, more of a throw. A yellow would've been justified. The Blackburn player lying on the floor holding his face looks a right tit.

Poor result and not the best of performances from what I understand but not the end of the world. We pick ourselves up and prepare for our next game.

I thought he was fouled and bundled into the back of the net by two Blaclburn players.

I agree with your analysis of the 2nd goal terrible defending. He got back and gave him so much space effectively blocking the goal keepers view.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: Hull Baggie on January 02, 2019, 10:45:37 AM
Very lacklustre first half, looked like the players had been up til 3am celebrating.

Better in the 2nd half once we'd gone behind. I haven't seen any highlights yet but the 1st goal looked like a foul on Johnstone but hard to tell from the other end of the ground, 2nd goal should have been stopped we needed someone to take a booking for the team.

Substitutions didn't really add anything to the game and I would have brought Sako on once Phillips had gone to right back or put Dawson at right back and moved either Barry or Livermore into the back four. I'd have taken HRK off instead of Rodriguez.

The red card looked justified to me but as I say I haven't seen any highlights yet.

Thought the ref was shocking, as bad as he was when we played at Sheff Wed,every time one of theirs went down he gave a foul. It's as if he's trying to prove that although he's registered as being from the West Midlands he won't allow any chance of him being called biased.

We missed the chance to go second but are still well in with a chance of automatic promotion if we can get back to winning ways.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: OldburyWBA on January 02, 2019, 11:12:55 AM
I've seen trucks with trailers turn in smaller spaces than Bartley needed for the second, only thing that surprised me was that he didn't fall on his arse, would have completed the comedy sketch.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: Windmill Baggy on January 02, 2019, 02:50:16 PM
Having seen the red card incident I'm surprised so many think it was justified, as it looks very harsh to me. The Blackburn player barges Livermore after the ref has blown for a foul, Livermore then tugs the players shirt in response, with the player more or less then throwing himself to the floor and writhing around. The Blackburn player was at least as culpable for 'violent conduct' as Livermore for his initial barge. Both perhaps should have been booked.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: SmethDan on January 02, 2019, 05:24:48 PM
I've seen trucks with trailers turn in smaller spaces than Bartley needed for the second, only thing that surprised me was that he didn't fall on his arse, would have completed the comedy sketch.

Not sure about the tight spaces part but if it's a competition then I've seen milk turn quicker than he did for the second  ;D .
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: mulliganstired on January 02, 2019, 06:24:19 PM
Having seen the red card incident I'm surprised so many think it was justified, as it looks very harsh to me. The Blackburn player barges Livermore after the ref has blown for a foul, Livermore then tugs the players shirt in response, with the player more or less then throwing himself to the floor and writhing around. The Blackburn player was at least as culpable for 'violent conduct' as Livermore for his initial barge. Both perhaps should have been booked.
I hear we're not appealing it, and to be honest I don't think they'd rescind it, it looks so stupid and petulant, even if the Blackburn player made a meal of it.  The funny thing, is if it had been an on the ball tussle he might have got away with a yellow, but as it was off the ball it seems a much worse offence.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on January 03, 2019, 10:34:00 AM
Gave the old age pensioners a run bless and don't forget the Sunday league centre halve. Moore again costing us points with his team selection and BAFFIING use of bench.

What would you have done with the side then?

I see you criticise - but you never put forward your suggestion