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Title: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: Mister AT on August 01, 2018, 02:10:57 PM
https://www.wba.co.uk/news/2018/august/albion-confirm-jones-appointment/

ALBION are today delighted to confirm the appointment of Graeme Jones as new Assistant Head Coach.

Graeme joins fresh from his successful role alongside Roberto Martinez in helping guide Belgium to a third-place finish at this summer’s World Cup.

The reunion with Head Coach Darren Moore comes after the pair struck up a lifelong friendship during one season together earlier in their playing careers at Doncaster Rovers.

But it is a partnership Darren has been eager to resume in the belief that he has found the perfect blend for a new era at The Hawthorns.

Darren says: “Graeme and I have never been out of contact since those first days together at Doncaster and I cannot tell you how delighted I am to have him alongside me.

“He has all the right qualities as a man and all the right qualities as a coach. His attention to detail, his career record, and his qualities as a human being are exactly why I was determined he join me.

“He is an attack-minded coach and while I know what I want from our forward play, I believe Graeme can deliver that with precision.”

Graeme was at the Palm Training Ground today busily helping Darren make plans for the season’s opener against Bolton at The Hawthorns.

Darren insisted Graeme take a family holiday after the intensity of his World Cup campaign with Nacer Chadli’s Belgium to ensure he was fresh for the Championship challenge looming.

Now the pair will achieve their mutual dream of working together as they step into the home dug-out for the first time on Saturday.

Graeme says: “From a football perspective we need to get Albion back to where we should be, where we were.”

You can see Graeme’s first interview on his new appointment here at WBATV tomorrow.
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: DaveWBA on August 01, 2018, 02:14:31 PM
Announced now as Darren Moore insisted he took a break with his family.

It's almost as if the club DO know what they're doing and all the pant wetting is completely unfounded.
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: Hull Baggie on August 01, 2018, 02:14:54 PM
Welcome Graeme. I hope it's a successful apointment. Took a while but seems that Moore finally got his man.
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: Mister AT on August 01, 2018, 02:20:54 PM
Announced now as Darren Moore insisted he took a break with his family.

It's almost as if the club DO know what they're doing and all the pant wetting is completely unfounded.

I did notice the bit where Darren Moore was adamant he had his break, shows that Darren Moore isn't in a 'major' rush to get his man in and was quite calm about the whole situation.

Welcome Graeme.
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: don1thedon on August 01, 2018, 02:22:39 PM
Excellent news, Welcome Graeme. Boing, boing!
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: DaveWBA on August 01, 2018, 02:23:19 PM
I did notice the bit where Darren Moore was adamant he had his break, shows that Darren Moore isn't in a 'major' rush to get his man in and was quite calm about the whole situation.

Welcome Graeme.

Wait till everyone finds out the away kit wasn't a last minute job. Heads will explode.
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: AidantheBaggies on August 01, 2018, 02:24:23 PM
Great appointment.....i think we can all agree!
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: koren on August 01, 2018, 02:29:22 PM
Welcome Graeme, a long-awaited appointment. :)

Hope he could help Big Dave to build a balanced team.
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: Hunnington Baggie on August 01, 2018, 02:32:11 PM
Bring Henry with him as striking coach!!  :D :D
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: gerry m on August 01, 2018, 02:32:42 PM
Welcome to the Albion Graeme.
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: Foster#1 on August 01, 2018, 02:36:07 PM
Heard he's already convinced the Chelsea pair to
Turn down Madrid and will both pay off the Chelsea contracts and fancy a season in the champ
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: barnestormer on August 01, 2018, 02:37:05 PM
If he can get us playing on the front foot ala Belgium he'll do for me
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: skyclad99 on August 01, 2018, 02:50:43 PM
The good thing about this is that they are close and want to work together, and that can only be good for the club.

Welcome Graeme........really looking forward to the new season now!
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: SmethDan on August 01, 2018, 02:55:47 PM
Welcome to our new assistant head coach.

Just a pity Belgium had such a decent run in the World Cup.

Could have done with him in earlier, still, it's a long season ahead.
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: WBAinDEVON on August 01, 2018, 02:57:54 PM
Welcome to the Albion GJ
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: don1thedon on August 01, 2018, 02:59:18 PM
Excellent intro article on the main site:
https://www.wba.co.uk/news/2018/august/darren-moore-on-graeme-jones/
Great insight from DM about Graeme & why it was so important for him to bring him aboard, gives some insight into DMs philosophy on footie & his expectations of the players.

DARREN Moore has explained why he was determined to realise his dream of working alongside Graeme Jones, the new Assistant Head Coach whose appointment was today confirmed.

The pair have been close friends and footballing soul mates ever since they spent one season together during their playing days at Doncaster Rovers.

They have never been out of contact since, with Darren revealing that his pal was a constant sounding board during his six-game season finale as interim Head Coach.

By then, the new man was locked into Belgium’s World Cup campaign. Graeme has worked alongside Roberto Martinez through his posts at Wigan, Everton and finally with the team which finished third in Russia this summer.

But now they are together at last, delayed only by the Albion gaffer’s insistence that Graeme take a family holiday after the World Cup to ‘recharge his batteries’ in readiness for the Championship challenge ahead.

Summing up why he had waited to ensure Graeme be assistant Darren said: “His attention to detail, his work ethic, his professionalism, his achievements and performance at the highest level . . . beyond all that, his qualities as a human being are what I want to bring into this building in every appointment.

“His philosophies within the game, how it should be played . . . he is an attack-minded coach who knows what I want from forward play and I believe he can deliver it with precision.

“We’ve been friends ever since that season together and never been out of touch, no matter where we’ve been in the game. We’ve always spoken football and that connection has been there from day one.

"I’ve been out watching him in training with Roberto and we have always had this exchange of views. His outlook on the game from both a defensive and attacking point of view is something that works for me.

“His football knowledge and ability are only part of it. His qualities as a man are just as important. He is a wonderful person who can only benefit West Bromwich Albion going forward.

“I don’t like to say too much about this but I’m changing the culture around here and the first thing we have to do is recruit people with respect and humility for everyone, absolutely everyone, who we come into contact with. Everyone who steps into this place must show these characteristics.

“Ever since this opportunity was available, I know the Club has appealed to him and he is excited by what we want to do here. Graeme can impact the Club in many, many ways which can only be good for West Bromwich Albion.”
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: SmethDan on August 01, 2018, 03:23:31 PM
“I don’t like to say too much about this but I’m changing the culture around here and the first thing we have to do is recruit people with respect and humility for everyone, absolutely everyone, who we come into contact with. Everyone who steps into this place must show these characteristics".

Big ouch goes out to Pardew and Carver et.al  ;D .
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: miggybaggy on August 01, 2018, 03:28:04 PM
Excellent intro article on the main site:
https://www.wba.co.uk/news/2018/august/darren-moore-on-graeme-jones/
Great insight from DM about Graeme & why it was so important for him to bring him aboard, gives some insight into DMs philosophy on footie & his expectations of the players.

DARREN Moore has explained why he was determined to realise his dream of working alongside Graeme Jones, the new Assistant Head Coach whose appointment was today confirmed.

The pair have been close friends and footballing soul mates ever since they spent one season together during their playing days at Doncaster Rovers.

They have never been out of contact since, with Darren revealing that his pal was a constant sounding board during his six-game season finale as interim Head Coach.

By then, the new man was locked into Belgium’s World Cup campaign. Graeme has worked alongside Roberto Martinez through his posts at Wigan, Everton and finally with the team which finished third in Russia this summer.

But now they are together at last, delayed only by the Albion gaffer’s insistence that Graeme take a family holiday after the World Cup to ‘recharge his batteries’ in readiness for the Championship challenge ahead.

Summing up why he had waited to ensure Graeme be assistant Darren said: “His attention to detail, his work ethic, his professionalism, his achievements and performance at the highest level . . . beyond all that, his qualities as a human being are what I want to bring into this building in every appointment.

“His philosophies within the game, how it should be played . . . he is an attack-minded coach who knows what I want from forward play and I believe he can deliver it with precision.

“We’ve been friends ever since that season together and never been out of touch, no matter where we’ve been in the game. We’ve always spoken football and that connection has been there from day one.

"I’ve been out watching him in training with Roberto and we have always had this exchange of views. His outlook on the game from both a defensive and attacking point of view is something that works for me.

“His football knowledge and ability are only part of it. His qualities as a man are just as important. He is a wonderful person who can only benefit West Bromwich Albion going forward.

“I don’t like to say too much about this but I’m changing the culture around here and the first thing we have to do is recruit people with respect and humility for everyone, absolutely everyone, who we come into contact with. Everyone who steps into this place must show these characteristics.

“Ever since this opportunity was available, I know the Club has appealed to him and he is excited by what we want to do here. Graeme can impact the Club in many, many ways which can only be good for West Bromwich Albion.”


Loving this already!
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: tuamigos on August 01, 2018, 03:41:18 PM
Bring Henry with him as striking coach!!  :D :D

Bring Henry with him as a striker!
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: CL3MO on August 01, 2018, 03:44:53 PM
“I don’t like to say too much about this but I’m changing the culture around here and the first thing we have to do is recruit people with respect and humility for everyone, absolutely everyone, who we come into contact with. Everyone who steps into this place must show these characteristics".

Big ouch goes out to Pardew and Carver et.al  ;D .

I thought that quote was very interesting. However worrying Moore's experience as manager may be, his views on the personalities and people that he wants to bring into the club are fantastic and exactly how it should be.
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: skyclad99 on August 01, 2018, 03:45:49 PM
Henry is in talks to take over the Egyptian national squad apparently - but nice thought!!

He could still play and put our lot to shame.....
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: telford baggie on August 01, 2018, 04:20:17 PM
I thought that quote was very interesting. However worrying Moore's experience as manager may be, his views on the personalities and people that he wants to bring into the club are fantastic and exactly how it should be.
respect for taxi drivers aswell? oh no they still play for us so not always about pardew etc but easy to jump on pardew and pulis
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: Cantello on August 01, 2018, 04:39:46 PM
I thought that quote was very interesting. However worrying Moore's experience as manager may be, his views on the personalities and people that he wants to bring into the club are fantastic and exactly how it should be.

Couldn’t agree more. And he’s had the balls to bring in an assistant with arguably better experience than himself.  That shows great character.  Proud to be a Baggie again.
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: TheBrom on August 01, 2018, 04:57:22 PM
That's a great story and quotes from Big Dave. Really does seem to be a bit of a feel good factor back at the club.
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: divinewind on August 01, 2018, 04:57:35 PM
Good solid appointment, can't believe some people  were panicking.
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: Albionic on August 01, 2018, 05:00:24 PM
love the cultural references, humility is a rare thing in footy nowadays.
I cannot see any downside to this appointment.  Welcome Mr Jones.
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: smethwickw on August 01, 2018, 05:21:53 PM
Excellent appointment for me. Hopefully this means we are going to see some attacking football this year.
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: letmereadposts on August 01, 2018, 05:25:05 PM
Very sound appointment, and worth the wait. Moves like this from the club are much welcomed and very reassuring.

Really hope Jones and Big Dave make it happen this year, but if we're competing and moving in the right direction then eventual promotion would be all the moore sweeter.
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: WorcsWBA on August 01, 2018, 05:49:44 PM
I'm pleased that this position has finally been sorted out and it looks to be an excellent appointment. I look forward to seeing how Darren and Graeme work together.
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: WorcsWBA on August 01, 2018, 05:51:43 PM
“I don’t like to say too much about this but I’m changing the culture around here and the first thing we have to do is recruit people with respect and humility for everyone, absolutely everyone, who we come into contact with. Everyone who steps into this place must show these characteristics".

Big ouch goes out to Pardew and Carver et.al  ;D .
I'm wondering how well Jenkins fits into Darren's vision of the club to be honest....
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: AlbionFan on August 01, 2018, 05:57:46 PM
Welcome to West Bromwich Albion Graeme
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: Adder on August 01, 2018, 06:05:06 PM
I'm wondering how well Jenkins fits into Darren's vision of the club to be honest....
I can understand your concern but signs are that he is giving DM some license to run the playing and coaching staff side himself - no doubt within certain boundaries.

Pleasing appointment this.
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: ex coseley kid on August 01, 2018, 07:04:08 PM
I'm delighted with this.

On balance most of the pre-season news has been pretty good.

I'm holding out hope...
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: jamesh_91 on August 01, 2018, 07:19:11 PM
“I don’t like to say too much about this but I’m changing the culture around here and the first thing we have to do is recruit people with respect and humility for everyone, absolutely everyone, who we come into contact with. Everyone who steps into this place must show these characteristics. 

This is an interest quote from Moore on the club's website and probably refers to the dressing room attitude at times last season.
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: ranvir wba90 on August 01, 2018, 07:21:51 PM
Very shrewd appointment in my opinion.
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: MICKYMEL on August 01, 2018, 10:38:42 PM
-Get along together great
-clearly felt need to wait for the right number 2
-attacking coach to complement defensive one
-speaking in a ‘WE must get back to where WE belong ‘ manner

Big thumbs up from me
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: caravanc58 on August 01, 2018, 10:53:36 PM
Jones had got a great position coaching one of the best teams in the world so it's great he's given that up to join us and team up with DM. this could be the best signing we do this summer.
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: liverbaggie on August 01, 2018, 10:59:52 PM
What a great appointment Graham is,he has an excellent pedigree and a friend of Dave as well couldn't be a better fit.
I don't think our coaches will stand for any funny business or slacking they will demand respect and this new crop of youngsters we've got will give them that respect and listen to their experience good times ahead I think.
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: Bigrob80 on August 01, 2018, 11:01:57 PM
Great appointment!
Seems Darren had it under control for a while from the press coverage and made him have a break!
Welcome Graeme!
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: chipperclark on August 01, 2018, 11:51:24 PM
 ;D Maybe Nacer will want to stay...now we have the Belgium assistant coach on board ??

Just have to get Lukaku and Hazard in (with Graemes'contact) and we will have a half decent team. ;) ;)
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: Atomic on August 01, 2018, 11:58:59 PM
;D Maybe Nacer will want to stay...now we have the Belgium assistant coach on board ??

Just have to get Lukaku and Hazard in (with Graemes'contact) and we will have a half decent team. ;) ;)


Ha ha. Get Hazard in and the league is won by Christmas.  ;D

As part of the deal I'll make him best quality faggots and peas whenever he wants it.  ;D

Any chance of De Bruyne as well?
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: albionden on August 02, 2018, 12:03:42 AM
“I don’t like to say too much about this but I’m changing the culture around here and the first thing we have to do is recruit people with respect and humility for everyone, absolutely everyone, who we come into contact with. Everyone who steps into this place must show these characteristics.

This is an interest quote from Moore on the club's website and probably refers to the dressing room attitude at times last season.

No chance of the "fat one" returning then..... ;D
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: Standaman on August 02, 2018, 02:02:27 AM
This is a major coup for Darren that he was able to recruit someone as experienced as Graeme Jones as his assistant. Particularly given Jones' long standing relationship with Roberto Martinez and his recent success with Belgium.

While long term friends it says much about Darren that a Coach as highly regarded was persuaded to come to the Hawthorns as his assistant given that he is virtually guaranteed employment for the next 4 years and you could argue has a longer and more impressive CV than Darren has.

Plainly this was Darren's number one choice and in every regard is an ideal appointment. 
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: The Joust on August 02, 2018, 08:40:26 AM
A bloke I know has ties with Everton behind the scenes and told me that towards the end of Martinez' time there the players called a meeting with him and Jones but he didn't attend so Jones went on his own and the players were asking why they don't do any training on defending set pieces, to which Jones replied "don't worry about set pieces just worry about passing the ball"

(don't shoot the messenger)
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: charlebaggie on August 02, 2018, 09:27:07 AM
Jones had got a great position coaching one of the best teams in the world so it's great he's given that up to join us and team up with DM. this could be the best signing we do this summer.
      Great appointment Jenkins. I thought I'd mention his name.
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: Hull Baggie on August 02, 2018, 09:29:42 AM
A bloke I know has ties with Everton behind the scenes and told me that towards the end of Martinez' time there the players called a meeting with him and Jones but he didn't attend so Jones went on his own and the players were asking why they don't do any training on defending set pieces, to which Jones replied "don't worry about set pieces just worry about passing the ball"

(don't shoot the messenger)

I'm sure I read somewhere that Jones is being brought in to compliment Moore's defensive coaching with his more attacking approach.
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: Mister AT on August 02, 2018, 09:35:02 AM
I'm sure I read somewhere that Jones is being brought in to compliment Moore's defensive coaching with his more attacking approach.

You're right, DM said it:

“His philosophies within the game, how it should be played . . . he is an attack-minded coach who knows what I want from forward play and I believe he can deliver it with precision.

"I’ve been out watching him in training with Roberto and we have always had this exchange of views. His outlook on the game from both a defensive and attacking point of view is something that works for me.
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: mini gaardsoe on August 02, 2018, 11:01:50 AM
Better late than never, but he will definitely be on with Jim White today on Talksport.
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: barnestormer on August 02, 2018, 11:17:39 AM
Better late than never, but he will definitely be on with Jim White today on Talksport.
Any idea when?
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: SmethDan on August 02, 2018, 11:35:20 AM
Any idea when?

No idea, but I sincerely hope WBAinDevon isn't still holding his breath from the last time GJ was supposed to be on Talksport  ;D .
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: mini gaardsoe on August 02, 2018, 12:02:47 PM
Any idea when?

In the next hour
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: liverbaggie on August 02, 2018, 12:04:03 PM
Do you know what,forget talk carp graham,get on with training our players get them ready for Saturday
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: bradleysrocket on August 02, 2018, 12:21:53 PM
Do you know what,forget talk carp graham,get on with training our players get them ready for Saturday
Maybe they’ve already trained or are on a day off.
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: mini gaardsoe on August 02, 2018, 12:38:43 PM
Didn't say much, just that hes excited to get back in to day to day coaching after spending a lot of time scouting around Europe for Belgium (will we benefit from that?) and that our business isn't done yet as we've still got a bit to do.
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: Albionic on August 02, 2018, 12:42:38 PM
Didn't say much, just that hes excited to get back in to day to day coaching after spending a lot of time scouting around Europe for Belgium (will we benefit from that?) and that our business isn't done yet as we've still got a bit to do.

"Belgian fringe players around europe" just hit top of google searches emanating from black country
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: AlbionFan on August 02, 2018, 12:49:00 PM
Didn't say much, just that hes excited to get back in to day to day coaching after spending a lot of time scouting around Europe for Belgium (will we benefit from that?) and that our business isn't done yet as we've still got a bit to do.

I feel we will as he would have noticed the quality of other nationalities playing with or against his targets, that’s what scouts do
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: AlbionFan on August 02, 2018, 05:19:01 PM
'He's worth giving everything I've got'

An interview with our new Assistant Head Coach

Source: https://www.wba.co.uk/news/2018/august/hes-worth-giving-everything-ive-got/
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: don1thedon on August 02, 2018, 08:33:18 PM
Underlines what we've already seen from Darren to date, really looking forward to him shaping our future - "The Redeemer"
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: Cantello on August 02, 2018, 11:04:11 PM
Underlines what we've already seen from Darren to date, really looking forward to him shaping our future - "The Redeemer"

The Redeemer; I like that and very apt.  Can’t tell you how much I’m looking forward to the season this year.  We’re getting our club back.
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: Atomic on August 02, 2018, 11:07:50 PM
The Redeemer; I like that and very apt.  Can’t tell you how much I’m looking forward to the season this year.  We’re getting our club back.

Me too I just cannot wait for Saturday. For once PLEASE Albion don't fk things up.

Can't remember the last time I looked forward to a season like this.
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: TAFKATMNo1Fan on August 03, 2018, 07:50:38 AM
"Hopefully we can introduce a different brand of football, obviously still paying attention to defending well but playing expansive football" Oh for the Ossie Ardiles days!  ;D
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: WorcsWBA on August 03, 2018, 09:59:40 AM
"Hopefully we can introduce a different brand of football, obviously still paying attention to defending well but playing expansive football"
I'm very pleased to see Graeme say this, as Darren had been vague about it previously, saying that we would play expansive/attacking football "when needed". I now feel more confident that we won't be Pulis-like in our approach and I'll be delighted if that's the case.
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: liverbaggie on August 19, 2018, 11:47:59 PM
Been a steadying addition for Dave,this attacking policy is no coincidence is it?
Just thinking have we appointed a club doctor yet?
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: Hunnington Baggie on August 20, 2018, 12:18:53 AM
Been a steadying addition for Dave,this attacking policy is no coincidence is it?
Just thinking have we appointed a club doctor yet?
according to the club directory, it’s someone called Julian Widdowson. From a quick google, he’s attached to a bunch of hospitals and has worked with many other sports and athletes over several decades up to Olympic level.
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: liverbaggie on August 20, 2018, 07:48:12 AM
Thanks wb,for that info'.
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: timdon on August 20, 2018, 09:05:10 AM
Could he be our own Peter Taylor, the perfect foil for Darren Moore's Brian Clough>
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: barnestormer on August 22, 2018, 08:28:12 AM
 https://www.wba.co.uk/news/2018/august/jones-on-albions-culture-change/
Hallelujah and amen graeme
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: Mister AT on August 22, 2018, 09:06:00 AM
loved this:

“Culturally, I know what's gone on here for the last four or five years. In order to move forward we can't play that way any more. We're West Bromwich Albion, one of the best, if not the biggest side in the Championship.

“We need to move forward, we need a different style, different shape, in order to win football matches, because you only get promoted winning football matches.

“I ask them to be patient, because it's a new culture that's arriving at the club, and try to support that.

“Did Wolves get 100 points last year? 99. You have to score goals and win football matches. Draws are sometimes good results in the Premier League, in the Championship they're not.”


Perfect attitude and with Big Dave that will certainly rub off on the lads.
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: WBAinDEVON on August 22, 2018, 09:11:52 AM
what a blessing and a breath of fresh air. god i hope he helps turn Mr Negative over on Friday
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: Atomic on August 22, 2018, 09:13:53 AM
Bloody hell someone at the Albion actually talking the club up? Well it's been a long time coming, Paul Thompson I think was the last one.

A refreshing and hugely overdue attitude and that sort of attitude gets into peoples subconscious.

We'll be building a decent stand to replace the Halfords next ..................  :)
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: KYA on August 22, 2018, 09:34:37 AM
Love his attitude and his connection with Big Dave we may actually have stumbled on the right management team and one that will play how we the fans want them to play, for the first time in a long time i am looking forward to the season and hopefully many more.
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: geoff on August 22, 2018, 10:00:40 AM
If a person believes in what he is saying & his actions back them up it WILL rub off on people around him, backed up by bringing in players fitting the philosophy i only see a bright future him & the club.
Thanks Darren it took a long time to get Graeme in but it was worth it.
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: Wigmore on August 22, 2018, 10:59:09 AM
Thanks Darren it took a long time to get Graeme in but it was worth it.
To be fair to DM, it appears he had sorted the deal some time ago. Moore had urged GJ to take a holiday before the formalities were sorted out.
Having seen the way this guy conducts himself and communicates his views, it may calm the those who talk about Darren Moore being out of his depth and inarticulate.
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: SmethDan on August 22, 2018, 11:03:22 AM
To be fair to DM, it appears he had sorted the deal some time ago. Moore had urged GJ to take a holiday before the formalities were sorted out.
Having seen the way this guy conducts himself and communicates his views, it may calm the pant wetters who talk about Darren Moore being out of his depth and inarticulate.

I really wouldn't bank on it  ;) .
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: Adder on August 22, 2018, 11:21:39 AM
You form your views based on evidence to hand. Some unease about Moore getting the job was reasonable - if Moore and Jones had been unveiled as a double act at the start there would have been more positivity as it would have hinted at the change of playing style that most wanted.

Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: tuamigos on August 22, 2018, 11:26:03 AM
The players seem to be buying into what Smith and Moore are trying to do.
We shouldn't expect too much too soon
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: Wigmore on August 22, 2018, 12:22:59 PM
The players seem to be buying into what Smith and Moore are trying to do.
We shouldn't expect too much too soon
Smith? Is he the secret power behind the throne? :o
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: HampshireBaggie on August 22, 2018, 12:38:18 PM
I thought Darren Moore waa only going to serve up tripe?
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: KN22 on August 22, 2018, 12:49:51 PM
Am I missing something here? Who is Smith? ;D
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: Hull Baggie on August 22, 2018, 12:51:27 PM
Am I missing something here? Who is Smith? ;D

Darren Moore's alias as in Alias Smith & Jones.
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: seteefeet on August 22, 2018, 02:27:56 PM
Am I missing something here? Who is Smith? ;D
Denis
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: dont ask me to choose luv on January 10, 2019, 07:13:40 AM
https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/west-brom-luton-next-manager-15653957

This got any legs  :-\
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: BigFrank20 on January 10, 2019, 08:07:54 AM
https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/west-brom-luton-next-manager-15653957

This got any legs  :-\
I doubt it, considering his pedigree why would he jump ship to a league one outfit from a contender for the prem?
Paper talk because there is still little to no Baggies transfer activity to go at probably
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: sammyg on January 10, 2019, 08:20:18 AM
I doubt it, considering his pedigree why would he jump ship to a league one outfit from a contender for the prem?
Paper talk because there is still little to no Baggies transfer activity to go at probably

I suppose the prospect of being the main man as manager as oppose to assistant here. Luton are 2nd in League One also.
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: Atomic on January 10, 2019, 08:34:53 AM
I think he'd be a terrific choice for Luton, would suit them down to the ground. I certainly think Luton would be daft not to have him top of their list.

Would he go though? Well being a number one would be an attractive proposition but every man and his dog seem to be loving life at the Albion and he and Big Dave have an extremely strong bond. You never know in football but I'd be surprised if he left.
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: seteefeet on January 10, 2019, 08:49:36 AM
Think they are very wise to consider him, and being his own boss must surely appeal.
I would have thought though that, if he was that determined to be head coach, his stock was higher after the World Cup so he would have done it then. Hope he sees us as a work in progress and decides the timing is not right.
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: baggiebof on January 10, 2019, 09:36:18 AM
Jones definitely has a desire to be a manager and stated upon arrival that “Darren’s the only person I’d be an assistant to now” in the following interview: 

https://www.expressandstar.com/sport/football/west-bromwich-albion/2018/08/22/graeme-jones-from-brazil-to-bolton-to-join-up-with-darren-moore-at-west-brom/

It's the sort of body blow you wouldn't really want to experience at any time but I would back Moore to overcome the issue if he did leave. I think he would be able to get a manager's job in the Championship however so wouldn't be surprised to see him stay if the link is true.
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: Floydy on January 10, 2019, 02:12:58 PM
Alan Nixon has commented on Twitter that Jones won't leave us for a league one job
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: SmethDan on January 10, 2019, 02:18:44 PM
Forest job could be coming up shortly.
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: iwastherein68 on January 10, 2019, 02:53:27 PM
Forest job could be coming up shortly.
Yes that's what I thought mate. I bet he would take that.
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: lewisant on January 10, 2019, 03:47:36 PM
Alan Nixon has commented on Twitter that Jones won't leave us for a league one job

The same Alan Nixon that said Giles Barnes was joining?!
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: NathWBA on January 10, 2019, 04:14:09 PM
I’d be amazed if he left us for a league 1 job, especially with his close relationship with Moore and the effort Moore went to get him in.
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: AlbionFan on January 10, 2019, 06:09:01 PM
I'd have been more worried if Stoke had made an approach. Surely he has a better CV than Nathan Jones (who has been gone too long!)
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: royhan on January 10, 2019, 06:44:09 PM
Luton have now asked Albion permission to speak to  Jones, Sky Sports Is reporting
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: Standaman on January 10, 2019, 08:30:38 PM
Ultimately if Jones wants to step up to a Head Coach role he probably hasn't too long to do so. He has had 11 years of Assistant roles he is 48 there will come a point where there will be a generation of younger coaches with Head Coach experience like for instance Nathan Jones.

Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: Baggies on January 10, 2019, 08:40:59 PM
That would be the sort of disruption we could really do without. Losing both Barnes and Jones at the same time would leave huge holes for us in key areas, half way through the season.
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: baggiejohn on January 10, 2019, 09:21:37 PM
That would be the sort of disruption we could really do without. Losing both Barnes and Jones at the same time would leave huge holes for us in key areas, half way through the season.

Indeed, News of this sort would give Norwich (for example) a distinct psychological advantage wouldn't it?...........................................................just saying.
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: seteefeet on January 11, 2019, 08:52:07 AM
That would be the sort of disruption we could really do without. Losing both Barnes and Jones at the same time would leave huge holes for us in key areas, half way through the season.
Not ideal but I think Moore is resilient and resourceful enough to cope. Him and Jones have a very close relationship so, I would imagine, if Jones is really intent on leaving, Moore will be the first to know, thus giving him time to put the feelers out for a replacement.
In the short term I would think that Shan would step up.
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: tylerm on January 11, 2019, 09:21:52 AM
If we did lose Jones then Kevin Phillips ?
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: iwastherein68 on January 11, 2019, 09:40:53 AM
If we did lose Jones then Kevin Phillips ?
In a word no.
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: Albionic on January 11, 2019, 10:35:08 AM
Very good player but on what basis would you give him the head coach job?
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: Dan87uk on January 11, 2019, 11:24:40 AM
From Sky Transfer News Updates Ticker:

"JONES DECLINES LUTON INTEREST

West Brom assistant coach Graeme Jones has politely declined Luton's interest in making him their new manager, Sky Sports News understands.

The Hatters approached the Baggies for permission to speak to Jones on Thursday but have now moved on in their search for Nathan Jones’ successor.

Sky Sports News understands Luton’s U18’s boss Inigo Idiakez is among the names being considered for the first-team job."
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: Black Country Pride on January 11, 2019, 11:25:34 AM
From Sky Transfer News Updates Ticker:

"JONES DECLINES LUTON INTEREST

West Brom assistant coach Graeme Jones has politely declined Luton's interest in making him their new manager, Sky Sports News understands.

The Hatters approached the Baggies for permission to speak to Jones on Thursday but have now moved on in their search for Nathan Jones’ successor.

Sky Sports News understands Luton’s U18’s boss Inigo Idiakez is among the names being considered for the first-team job."


Good news.
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: skyclad99 on January 11, 2019, 11:28:43 AM
From Sky Transfer News Updates Ticker:

"JONES DECLINES LUTON INTEREST

West Brom assistant coach Graeme Jones has politely declined Luton's interest in making him their new manager, Sky Sports News understands.

The Hatters approached the Baggies for permission to speak to Jones on Thursday but have now moved on in their search for Nathan Jones’ successor.

Sky Sports News understands Luton’s U18’s boss Inigo Idiakez is among the names being considered for the first-team job."


Good news - good man

I would like to think that Graeme is rather enjoying his challenge with us and can see good things ahead. He is young enough to be a manager in his own right in the future. With no disrespect to Luton, I think that bigger clubs will come calling.
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: smethwick2 on January 11, 2019, 11:48:11 AM
From Sky Transfer News Updates Ticker:

"JONES DECLINES LUTON INTEREST

West Brom assistant coach Graeme Jones has politely declined Luton's interest in making him their new manager, Sky Sports News understands.

The Hatters approached the Baggies for permission to speak to Jones on Thursday but have now moved on in their search for Nathan Jones’ successor.

Sky Sports News understands Luton’s U18’s boss Inigo Idiakez is among the names being considered for the first-team job."



Thank god for that. Don't think he would want to leave DM in a position without his right hand guy at this key point in the season. That being said if a Championship job came up I would be a little more worried
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: seteefeet on January 11, 2019, 11:58:01 AM
Great news and, coupled with the rumour that Barnes also wanted to stay, suggests we have a good set up at the minute.
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: gazberg on January 18, 2019, 07:27:03 PM
Alan Nixon just said Luton have come back and hes had talks this time but no indication yet whether he will go or not.
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: Dan87uk on January 18, 2019, 07:27:15 PM
Just twitter talk at the moment which must be taken with a pinch of salt, but rumours currently persisting on Twitter that Luton have come back in for him with his odds also dropping considerably with the bookies.

Obviously needs to be confirmed by a more reliable source/outlet, though the furore about it the last couple of hours was started initially by Alan Nixon

https://twitter.com/reluctantnicko/status/1086310847146876928 (https://twitter.com/reluctantnicko/status/1086310847146876928)
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: baggiejohn on January 18, 2019, 08:02:48 PM
Just twitter talk at the moment which must be taken with a pinch of salt, but rumours currently persisting on Twitter that Luton have come back in for him with his odds also dropping considerably with the bookies.

Obviously needs to be confirmed by a more reliable source/outlet, though the furore about it the last couple of hours was started initially by Alan Nixon

https://twitter.com/reluctantnicko/status/1086310847146876928 (https://twitter.com/reluctantnicko/status/1086310847146876928)


Also saying we're about to sign Barnes (Giles not Harvey)
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: Baggies on January 18, 2019, 08:55:54 PM
It’s one of those “no smoke without fire” things. It was publicly said he had turned it down, so if the odds have come back in and newspapers are reporting that it might be back on, you have to think there might be something in the story.

Really need some stability at the club. Going well in the league, and while I don,t know how key Jones is, I,d rather an inexperienced manager like Moore did have the experience of Jones next to him, as they clearly work well together.
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: Albionic on January 18, 2019, 09:09:40 PM
If there is anything in this, I do feel sorry for Darren looks like a perfect storm is brewing, Hope it dissapates quickly
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: gazberg on January 22, 2019, 12:12:45 AM
"Alan Nixon
‏ @reluctantnicko
51m51 minutes ago

So. Graham Jones HAS spoken to Luton now. But won’t take it. And Giles Barnes hopes for a deal and isn’t just getting fit. Cheers."
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: Mister AT on January 22, 2019, 08:29:55 AM
Cant blame him for hearing what they have to say/offer.

Personally I cant see Jones leaving for a first team job unless it was championship level or above.
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: Albionic on January 22, 2019, 11:15:44 AM
I will take brickbats for this, but here goes anyway,

I am struggling to see where this guy has influenced our performances.

His preferred 3-5-2 had to be canned as it wasn't working,
Our kids / squad players are not progressing,
Some of the glaring issues are not being addressed (Gayle out wide, midfield structure).  I would accept that recruitment have a role to play in bringing talent in, but one of this guys jobs is developing the talent we already have, I see nothing to show that this is being achieved. 

thoughts??
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: AlbionFan on January 22, 2019, 03:40:32 PM
Graeme Jones set to stay at West Brom after turning down Luton’s second offer

Source: https://www.expressandstar.com/sport/football/west-bromwich-albion/2019/01/22/jones-turns-down-lutons-second-offer/
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: kie the baggie on January 22, 2019, 04:34:30 PM
I will take brickbats for this, but here goes anyway,

I am struggling to see where this guy has influenced our performances.

His preferred 3-5-2 had to be canned as it wasn't working,
Our kids / squad players are not progressing,
Some of the glaring issues are not being addressed (Gayle out wide, midfield structure).  I would accept that recruitment have a role to play in bringing talent in, but one of this guys jobs is developing the talent we already have, I see nothing to show that this is being achieved. 

thoughts??
From what I see jones advises Darren Moore on every tactical decision made, and directs players directly, so I would say his influence is high, especially took all tactical walkthrough sessions in Dubai
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: baggiejohn on January 22, 2019, 05:11:38 PM
I will take brickbats for this, but here goes anyway,

I am struggling to see where this guy has influenced our performances.

His preferred 3-5-2 had to be canned as it wasn't working, 

For me, that showed a degree of pragmatism, a positive characteristic IMO


Quote
Our kids / squad players are not progressing,


I believe most of our older squad players were introduced to provide low cost experienced support.
I would argue that our younger squad players are progressing, but are not yet ready for a regular place,
I would also argue that it's the job of the DoF to oversee the development of existing talent. The job of the Head Coach & his team is to prepare the squad for match days

Quote
Some of the glaring issues are not being addressed (Gayle out wide, midfield structure).  I would accept that recruitment have a role to play in bringing talent in, but one of this guys jobs is developing the talent we already have, I see nothing to show that this is being achieved. 

I generally take the view that our first team coaches are paid vast amounts of money
to make the tactical decisions they do. I might not necessarily agree with them, but it's probably because I don't understand the logic. So I don't agree that the issues are necessarily glaring.

Harvey Barnes couldn't praise our coaching staff enough, don't forget he came to us as a left sided wide player, we developed him into a No 10,

As things stand we're third in the league with top two playing each other in the next couple of weeks. We're also playing top teams in February giving us a chance to progress into the top two.
If I were paying the Coaches wages, think I'd be pretty happy at the moment
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: alex1 on January 22, 2019, 06:45:07 PM
I will take brickbats for this, but here goes anyway,

I am struggling to see where this guy has influenced our performances.

His preferred 3-5-2 had to be canned as it wasn't working,
Our kids / squad players are not progressing,
Some of the glaring issues are not being addressed (Gayle out wide, midfield structure).  I would accept that recruitment have a role to play in bringing talent in, but one of this guys jobs is developing the talent we already have, I see nothing to show that this is being achieved. 

thoughts??

I don't think we would be top scorers and have seen the attacking flair this season if it was only DM in charge.  I know most managers would profit from having creative, flair players like Gayle, Phillips and Barnes at their disposal (although I can think of one recent manager who wouldn't  :( ), but I'm sure Jones has had a key role in turning us into an attacking entertaining team. I think the Jones/DM partnership is working well.   
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: paulosull on February 13, 2019, 03:03:44 AM
What impact hasJones had on this team? As I fail to see any. Just like Henry at Monaco is this bloke beginning to be found out, seems to me that like the French man he ain't up too much with out Martines guiding hand.
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: Mikkyk on March 02, 2019, 06:56:42 PM
I've come to the conclusion that we would be better off without Jones. How would Darren fare without him? We may never know.

My thinking behind this is the following things haven't worked this season:

1. 3 at the back
2. Passing out from the back
3. Rodriguez in a withdrawn striker role  (a problem in itself but also forces Gayle out wide)
4. Gayle out wide

I can point the finger at Jones for this as they were all tactics used with Belgium  (and he apparently takes care of the offensive side of things).
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: BigFrank20 on March 02, 2019, 07:17:51 PM
Isn't he allegedly in charge of tactics when we have the ball? Ergo pretty responsible for much of what went on on the pitch last night?
Where's the shitstorm calling for his head? If for some reason Darren Moore is forced out he's probably the one who will step into the breach while we look for a replacement
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: iwastherein68 on March 02, 2019, 10:34:53 PM
Isn't he allegedly in charge of tactics when we have the ball? Ergo pretty responsible for much of what went on on the pitch last night?
Where's the shitstorm calling for his head? If for some reason Darren Moore is forced out he's probably the one who will step into the breach while we look for a replacement
Not a chance ,he would walk with DM. He should not be offered the chance anyway.He is part of the problem.
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: paulosull on March 03, 2019, 02:07:05 AM
If one goes the other should be sent packing as well not up to the task, these two just don't seem to be able to read a game all season we have had no link up play from defense to midfield to attack. Game management is none existent and only for two standout loan players we'd be in the crap
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: GREGMT on March 09, 2019, 10:02:18 PM
Apparently argued and fell out with Luke Downing over January transfers.  We signed more players than any other promotion contender. 

Jones sounded like an arrogant so and so culminating with him going to Luton.  Why didn’t we fire him a month ago and got a new assistant?

Sounds like there were problems with the coaching staff.
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: paulosull on March 09, 2019, 10:50:14 PM
Not nice to see a coach sacked but if Jones was a tosser then good to see him gone.
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on March 09, 2019, 10:56:55 PM
Looking back at previous posts, it seems that a lot of us weren't too sure of his appointment.
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: frazzle on March 09, 2019, 10:57:41 PM
Sounds like...

Apparently....

No actual fact, yet it suits your view doesn’t it

It’s done. You can now start your vendetta on the next target.
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: costa blanca baggie on March 10, 2019, 02:20:16 AM
If there is anything in this, I do feel sorry for Darren looks like a perfect storm is brewing, Hope it dissapates quickly
Head for the shelter... the storm has arrived!!
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: GREGMT on March 10, 2019, 08:49:28 AM
Sounds like...

Apparently....

No actual fact, yet it suits your view doesn’t it

It’s done. You can now start your vendetta on the next target.

No vendetta, I’m yet to see a poster EVER have anything good to say about Jones.  He comes across as a big head just because he was assistant to a very talented Belgium, WC semi Finalists.  Did he do much on the training pitch?  Was probably a distinct 2nd to Martinez.  We all know the meddling and interference was huge at B71.

Just feel DM should have stood up for himself.  He could’ve stated to Jenkins that Jones had too much power and influence.
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: paulosull on March 10, 2019, 09:57:19 AM
No vendetta, I’m yet to see a poster EVER have anything good to say about Jones.  He comes across as a big head just because he was assistant to a very talented Belgium, WC semi Finalists.  Did he do much on the training pitch?  Was probably a distinct 2nd to Martinez.  We all know the meddling and interference was huge at B71.

Just feel DM should have stood up for himself.  He could’ve stated to Jenkins that Jones had too much power and influence.
I was surprised that either Moore or Jones came out and stated that one trains player's with ball and one without.
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: BB74 on March 10, 2019, 11:34:13 AM
Looking at the earlier pages in this thread there was a lot of posivity about the appointment. It’s a funny old world.
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: zippyandbungle on March 10, 2019, 12:03:35 PM
No vendetta, I’m yet to see a poster EVER have anything good to say about Jones.  He comes across as a big head just because he was assistant to a very talented Belgium, WC semi Finalists.  Did he do much on the training pitch?  Was probably a distinct 2nd to Martinez.  We all know the meddling and interference was huge at B71.

Just feel DM should have stood up for himself.  He could’ve stated to Jenkins that Jones had too much power and influence.
I've never met him, I don't know him

I do know that the appointwas at the request of Moore so that was down to him to make it work
The Luton thing was a distraction and the feeling is that the two were not joined up on tactics

We move on
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: OldburyWBA on March 10, 2019, 09:05:56 PM
According to John Percy there was friction behind the scenes with Jones and Dowling but Jones had already agreed to take over at Luton in June
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: BalisPen on March 10, 2019, 10:08:08 PM
I think we should have let him go when Luton came in for him and get some compo for him instead of now having to pay him off.

It was reported that he was in charge of training when were in possession and it was obvious that wasn't working and was actually costing us results with stupid mistakes.

I had high hopes that he would have a extensive knowledge and database of European players having been assistant to rm at Belgium.

I'm sure we'll get his version of what happened on the Jim White talksport show soon as he is on there quite often, probably arranged by his agent to increase his profile which has now got him the rumoured Luton job.
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: NathWBA on March 10, 2019, 10:48:54 PM
No vendetta, I’m yet to see a poster EVER have anything good to say about Jones.  He comes across as a big head just because he was assistant to a very talented Belgium, WC semi Finalists.  Did he do much on the training pitch?  Was probably a distinct 2nd to Martinez.  We all know the meddling and interference was huge at B71.

Just feel DM should have stood up for himself.  He could’ve stated to Jenkins that Jones had too much power and influence.
the only reason he could had too much power and inffluence is if Moore allowed him to, some fans blaming Jones over Moore is ridiculous, Moore should have been stronger as a number one and not allowed his assistant to run the show.
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: KN22 on March 10, 2019, 11:30:32 PM
the only reason he could had too much power and inffluence is if Moore allowed him to, some fans blaming Jones over Moore is ridiculous, Moore should have been stronger as a number one and not allowed his assistant to run the show.

I totally agree. If you think about any industry other than football you would not be blaming an assistant for the business failing but would pin it on the man st the top.
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: Standaman on March 11, 2019, 12:41:57 AM
I don't believe that Jones' influence was undue. It is not untypical for an assistant to focus on one or more area's of the coaching and as has been pointed out Moore after all was the man in charge.

However there was always 2 problems. Firstly Jones' CV was much deeper than Moore's which could be construed rightly or wrongly that Jones was the power behind the throne. This is an inherent problem of appointing a rookie Head Coach either you surround him with equally inexperienced coaches (at first team level) or you appoint a surrogate Head Coach whose presence undermines the actual Head Coach.

The second aspect of this which is hugely unfortunate is because Jones has the deeper CV he will find it a lot easier to get back into the game and assistants don't quite share the same burden of blame if things go wrong so this sacking is less damaging for him than it is for Darren.
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on March 11, 2019, 06:31:20 AM
No vendetta, I’m yet to see a poster EVER have anything good to say about Jones.  He comes across as a big head just because he was assistant to a very talented Belgium, WC semi Finalists.  Did he do much on the training pitch?  Was probably a distinct 2nd to Martinez.  We all know the meddling and interference was huge at B71.

Just feel DM should have stood up for himself.  He could’ve stated to Jenkins that Jones had too much power and influence.

Darren is too nice. This is/was Darren's Achilles heel.
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: BigFrank20 on March 11, 2019, 09:17:35 AM
It appears Jones had allready agreed to take the Luton job before his recent departure from the Baggies
Now the disinformation fog starts to lift
https://www.expressandstar.com/sport/football/west-bromwich-albion/2019/03/11/luton-town-lined-up-graeme-jones-before-west-brom-axe/
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: Mister AT on March 11, 2019, 09:20:01 AM
Would probably explain some of the players looking a little disinterested. It’s widely known Jones did a lot of the training work, guessing some of the players have switched off from him after knowing he was leaving at the end of the season anyway.

Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: SirTonyM on March 11, 2019, 12:36:52 PM
Never understood the Jones love in. He was Martinez no.2 and Martinez did the exact same things over and over at Wigan and Everton. Play out from back, attacking football with no focus on defensive structure...sound familiar?
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: Albionic on March 11, 2019, 12:49:49 PM
Just too much flux!

players who have passed the point when they should have left,
players on loan,
Coaches who are already planning to leave,
A fledgling head coach,
A board with one aspiration which is a very hard one to achieve.

The club needs to BUILD a squad who can learn to play in a number of ways, ie adapt to the circumstances in front of them.
The present cycle of chopping and changing and going for the immediate fix will not work and it is a bad environment for younger players to develop in.

The cocktail is poisonous and needs throwing out.

I don't care if the next coach is experienced or has a history of promotion, the job at B71 is far bigger than promotion, the whole club needs educating about delivering progress, from Mr Lai to the academy. Willl it happen? Of course not, the financial pressure will be too great.

Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: AlbionFan on March 22, 2019, 06:27:03 PM
On a flight home from Malaga and guess who just got the plane. Will try and have a word during the flight
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: KN22 on March 22, 2019, 07:20:00 PM
On a flight home from Malaga and guess who just got the plane. Will try and have a word during the flight

That could be interesting
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: AlbionFan on March 31, 2019, 04:31:17 PM
I’m sorry I haven’t posted further on the brief encounter with Graeme Jones.

We were on the same Ryanair flight from Malaga to Birmingham on Friday, 22nd March. I was sitting on the front row of seats and,  to be perfectly honest, I was so surprised and taken aback by seeing him boarding, I rather made a fool of myself, by saying "hello Graeme sorry it didn’t work out for you, can I take a photo?" I then fumbled with my iPone to the camera app and, for some reason, it wouldn’t open, he was very understanding, amicable and accommodating, but as I was holding up boarding and the cabin crew were looking daggers at me he said, "we’ll catch up when we land".

He did come past me to go to the toilet, he said hello and smiled. By the time we had landed, I had bethought myself and considered it wasn’t appropriate to “buttonhole” whilst he was on “holiday” with his wife. So, I didn’t approach him after that.

A bit of a let down I know but I didn’t want to compromise him nor did I want to intrude on his privacy.

So, sorry for any let down.
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: seteefeet on April 02, 2019, 10:18:44 AM
Is it confirmed that he is taking over Luton?
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: OldburyWBA on May 01, 2019, 03:54:49 PM
Will be appointed Luton manager on Monday according to Sky
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: Fritzl Palace on May 01, 2019, 04:24:46 PM
Will be appointed Luton manager on Monday according to Sky

We'll get to welcome him back here next season then. At least we will know that we need to press high against Luton when we play them as the goalkeeper and defenders pass it along the goal line.
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: KN22 on May 01, 2019, 11:03:28 PM
Why do Luton need a new manager after the achievements of this season?
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: costa blanca baggie on May 01, 2019, 11:46:32 PM
Why do Luton need a new manager after the achievements of this season?
It’s called planning ahead. Without or without promotion, it looks like they’d arranged for Jones to be in place for next season. Risky? For sure...but they’ve stuck to their guns. It’ll be interesting to see how it pans out.
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: paulosull on May 02, 2019, 12:36:13 AM
Darren should of put him in his place or got rid when his head couldn't fit through door, might have still been head coach.
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: BalisPen on May 02, 2019, 01:01:41 AM
I always thought he came to us with the intention of taking our manager's job if DM got the boot.

The cynical amongst us could argue that he persisted in his passing out the back philospy knowing that it would get DM the sack and in turn him the job.

The fact that he jumped at the chance to go to Luton proves he was desperate to be a manager.
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: frazzle on May 02, 2019, 07:22:13 AM
Wonder who his assistant will be? It sounds like they have always wanted to work together so maybe Moore will go in as his assistant. Watching their careers will be interesting.
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: gazberg on May 02, 2019, 11:49:04 AM
Confirmed now


https://www.lutontown.co.uk/news/2019/may/graeme-jones/

The article confirms this was agreed in Feb while he was at WBA with our boards permission. Must have been offered a tenner to begin talks.
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: skyclad99 on May 02, 2019, 12:20:29 PM
Confirmed now


https://www.lutontown.co.uk/news/2019/may/graeme-jones/

The article confirms this was agreed in Feb while he was at WBA with our boards permission. Must have been offered a tenner to begin talks.

Interesting - this sort of casts a doubt over the theory that Darren walked because the club wanted rid of Jones. Clearly Jones was already sorted when Darren was given the good news........
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: KN22 on May 02, 2019, 12:46:59 PM
Interesing - this sort of casts a doubt over the theory that Darren walked because the club wanted rid of Jones. Clearly Jones was already sorted when Darren was given the good news........

How very true... We will never find out what actually happened.
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on May 02, 2019, 01:29:00 PM
Won't last very long and will get the sacked.

In hindsight, he was the worst signing of the summer.

Had Moore opted for someone like a Shakespeare then he'd still be here now.
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: Albionic on May 02, 2019, 03:42:15 PM
It’s called planning ahead. Without or without promotion, it looks like they’d arranged for Jones to be in place for next season. Risky? For sure...but they’ve stuck to their guns. It’ll be interesting to see how it pans out.

and the incumbent caretaker manager (Mike Harford) has said he doesn't want the job !
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: Standaman on May 02, 2019, 06:39:08 PM
It was always very obvious that Jones wanted a Head Coach role. Whether it was wise for Darren to bring him in as an assistant given his ambitions is debatable. However whatever the dynamics things plainly headed south during January and February and that coincided with Luton's initial approach.

No one will ever be quite sure about what happened behind the scenes but I suspect Jones' role was more important in the overall scheme of things than maybe he should have had. It will be interesting to see how he does at Luton.
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: OldburyWBA on May 06, 2019, 07:36:17 PM
https://www.coachesvoice.com/graeme-jones-luton-town-roberto-martinez/?fbclid=IwAR0o4-AJnZbbhu7qXoRNoCaGCoXRA-DZ_TuYiyJClSNMSAs39hjdu0qbuuU

Confident in his ability
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: tuamigos on May 06, 2019, 07:43:54 PM
https://www.coachesvoice.com/graeme-jones-luton-town-roberto-martinez/?fbclid=IwAR0o4-AJnZbbhu7qXoRNoCaGCoXRA-DZ_TuYiyJClSNMSAs39hjdu0qbuuU

Confident in his ability

Talk the talk but can't walk the walk
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: AlbionFan on May 06, 2019, 08:13:02 PM
Talk the talk but can't walk the walk

As a Head Coach / Manager and his own man, that has still to be determined.
Title: Re: Graeme Jones - Assistant Head Coach
Post by: 17GD on June 18, 2019, 10:49:45 PM
If we had any other boss in charge, I'd have thought Luton would have rocked up and turned us over. But I'm feeling confident with Super Slav in charge. Can't wait. I really hope we give Jones and co a drubbing.