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Off Topic => General Football & Sports => Topic started by: JDWest_Brom on June 18, 2014, 09:37:28 AM
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According to Martin Swain at the E&S we're about to sign Lescott.
http://www.expressandstar.com/sport/west-bromwich-albion-fc/2014/06/18/west-brom-set-to-hijack-move-for-joleon-lescott/
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Steve Madeley â€@smadeley_star 5m
EXCLUSIVE by @MSwain_star. Albion in pole position to sign Joleon Lescott. Medical pencilled in for tomorrow. #wba
Would be a superb signing!
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Interesting signing, considering how much depth we have at CB and the fact our squad is wafer thin. Great player though.
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Top signing if it comes off!
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According to Martin Swain at the E&S we're about to sign Lescott. Can't link as I'm in my phone.
Get right of town!!!???!!!!
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Open mouthed right now.
Good timing for the weekend protest... ;)
Another six of this sort please.
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I think he would be a fantastic signing. Though hopefully we bring in some players for key positions such as full back.
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I think he's a dingle and I hate him and football and I blame Peace.
Sorry thought I'd add some negativity to an otherwise positive bit of news ;)
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Brilliant signing if it comes off, although it does raise a few doubts over the future of Jonas Olsson as a left footed centre half. Also pushes Craig Dawson down te pecking order again potentially but otherwise a very good, solid signing if it comes off.
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"And Lescott’s preference for a transfer to Albion has been influenced by Irvine’s surprise arrival having been impressed by his coaching during his three-year stint at Everton"
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Good signing, interesting signing but another slow 30+ CB so have a bit of mixed emotions. Fantastic signing in terms of getting one over the wo1ve5 though
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I know I'm going to get shot down for this, but at 31 years of age, he's not the kind of player we need to add to an already aging centre of defence. Good defender of course, but over the last couple of seasons he's been dreadful on the rare occasion he's played. It's this policy of signing aging players that got us in this mess in the first place. Unfortunately, it doesn't look like anything's going to change
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Steve Madeley â€@smadeley_star 2m
Lescott deal not completed yet but Albion are favourites. He has worked with (and likes) Irvine, Downing and Kelly before. #wba
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I know I'm going to get shot down for this, but at 31 years of age, he's not the kind of player we need to add to an already aging centre of defence. Good defender of course, but over the last couple of seasons he's been dreadful on the rare occasion he's played. It's this policy of signing aging players that got us in this mess in the first place. Unfortunately, it doesn't look like anything's going to change
Oh God. There's going to be a negative side to everything - we would complain that Messi isn't tall enough for a target man role.
Can we just agree that if Alan Irvine is the absolute apocalyptical nightmare it's being described, that anything slightly positive is now the equivalent of being told you're the illegitimate love child of Richard Branson and he's going to 'make it up to you for all the years he's let you down'.
I can crush any argument anyone has about Lescott with this simple mathamaitcal equation:
Lescott > Lugano.
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Isn't he rather injury prone? He has played just 107 games in the last five years according to Wikipedia. :(
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Part of the article:
"Lescott was worried about a possible negative response from Albion supporters because of his Molineux background but both the player and club hope the eight years that have elapsed since he left Wolves will soften any resistance."
I find it interesting that they would mention this, personally I have no issue with it.
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Steve Madeley â€@smadeley_star 2m
Lescott deal not completed yet but Albion are favourites. He has worked with (and likes) Irvine, Downing and Kelly before. #wba
Haha! This is fantastic. Absolutely fantastic. Pesky Irvine driving players away!
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Isn't he rather injury prone? He has played just 107 games in the last five years according to Wikipedia. :(
Don't forget he was at City behind some quality players not getting games.
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Wow what a signing this could be!!
Lescott is a terrific centre half. If we get him id be impressed
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Would be delighted with this signing.
Adds a new level of quality, he still has years ahead of him injury permitting, he has played the very highest level in recent seasons and i could be wrong but isnt he quite quick.
I would assume that would mean either McAuley is going to be slowly wound down or Olsson sold on, no issue with either, i think we have conceded bags of goals and although i rate both of them highly a shake up would be good as i think things can go stale.
Another couple of signings of Lescotts level, added to 5 or 6 younger hungry players and will be very happy.
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Isn't he rather injury prone? He has played just 107 games in the last five years according to Wikipedia. :(
Or City have just had better center backs?
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Oh God. There's going to be a negative side to everything - we would complain that Messi isn't tall enough for a target man role.
Can we just agree that if Alan Irvine is the absolute apocalyptical nightmare it's being described, that anything slightly positive is now the equivalent of being told you're the illegitimate love child of Richard Branson and he's going to 'make it up to you for all the years he's let you down'.
I can crush any argument anyone has about Lescott with this simple mathamaitcal equation:
Lescott > Lugano.
I'm not the kind of supporter to find the negative in everything, and I agree that just about anyone would be an improvement on Lugano. Just think our policy on signing players has shifted far too far towards old players on low fees and high wages, meaning we have to replace them within one or two seasons anyway and you're back to square one. In addition, you're never going to make a profit on a 31 year old, so you're relying on good performances just to make it worthwhile. When you sign a younger player, even if the signing is unsuccessful you're likely to recoup some of the original transfer fee. Would've thought peace would be aware of this being a businessman.
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Superb signing if it comes off. Vast experience and a quality centre back
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Haha! This is fantastic. Absolutely fantastic. Pesky Irvine driving players away!
Laughing! Looks like JP may have something up his sleeve don't you think?
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I'm not the kind of supporter to find the negative in everything, and I agree that just about anyone would be an improvement on Lugano. Just think our policy on signing players has shifted far too far towards old players on low fees and high wages, meaning we have to replace them within one or two seasons anyway and you're back to square one. In addition, you're never going to make a profit on a 31 year old, so you're relying on good performances just to make it worthwhile. When you sign a younger player, even if the signing is unsuccessful you're likely to recoup some of the original transfer fee. Would've thought peace would be aware of this being a businessman.
Apologies it was a tongue in cheek at the recent events that we can't ever have 'good' news.
I agree but in light of the demand for Premier League experience we have to go for older players with low fees and higher wages. I'd rather we get a man of Lescotts experience than an expensive potentially good player. Good and young means we won't compete for their signature sadly.
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I dont think there can be any negativity over a signing such as Lescott.. He will improve us vastly and still has many years left in him
Fingers crossed
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As I've mentioned elsewhere - classless of WBA to leak this on morning of Irvine presser. Trying to deflect away from disastrous appt.
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Laughing! Looks like JP may have something up his sleeve don't you think?
Quick find some tenuous links to anyone good that Irvine might have met once in a corridor! Lukaku last season?!
Actually didn't Lescott leave in 2009, when the hell would he have met Irvine?
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Really solid signing if it were to come off. Yes perhaps not at his absolute peak but then we'd have no chance if he was. I think he'd be the pick of our centre backs.
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Quick find some tenuous links to anyone good that Irvine might have met once in a corridor! Lukaku last season?!
Actually didn't Lescott leave in 2009, when the hell would he have met Irvine?
I must be honest, I don't really care whether he met him or not, the fact that we're apparently in the driving seat for him has made me laugh.
He is a genuine quality player to me, with an excellent pedigree and a few years in him yet.
Brilliant if it happens.
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Actually didn't Lescott leave in 2009, when the hell would he have met Irvine?
Lescott has never actually worked with Irvine. Good to see the Express & Star have done their homework!
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Not sure if I think it would be good or bad!
Im leaning towards bad...is he injury prone! Have another player on high wages not playing!
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I have no doubt this is a PR stunt from the club, and he'll run out alongside Curtis Davies at the KC next year.
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Lescott has never actually worked with Irvine. Good to see the Express & Star have done their homework!
It's the Express and Star, I'm not sure why they'd add that positive lie and not go for the title 'Sandwell Town set to be snubbed by die hard Wolves super
Legend.'
And for those claiming this is a bad signing pray tell who you would buy instead.
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It's the Express and Star, I'm not sure why they'd add that positive lie and not go for the title 'Sandwell Town set to be snubbed by die hard Wolves super
Legend.'
And for those claiming this is a bad signing pray tell who you would buy instead.
I think Lescott may have worked with Irvine around 2006/07 at Everton, forgot Irvine was there previous to his managerial role at Preston.
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I think Lescott may have worked with Irvine around 2006/07 at Everton, forgot Irvine was there previous to his managerial role at Preston.
You are correct or maybe the E&S are just making it up ::)
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The Wolves are hurting about this so I hope he goes on and signs.
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I'm guessing we're trying to assemble the ugliest backline in the PL :P
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Can't help but think of Peace and Burton as Mr. Burns and Smithers right now:
Mr. Burns (sorry, Peace) lifting blinds to window.....
"Mmmmm it's getting ugly out there. Quick Smithers, throw them a tasty morsel!!! That should keep them at bay...."
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I think Lescott may have worked with Irvine around 2006/07 at Everton, forgot Irvine was there previous to his managerial role at Preston.
He must have been so bad at Everton they brought him back - to abuse him?
Seems the 'Alan Irvine' connection has legs. And my god if we hijack a deal that'll be a first.
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Outrage predicted for about 2 days time when he has signed for Hull
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If we signed Lescott I will be literally over the moon. He's better than any defender we have at the moment by a country mile. Anyone finding a negative with the prospect of a signing of this calibre of player can seriously do one.
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Lescott is a player I’ve admired from afar for a long time. I remember a game at the Hawthorns against Everton when he was absolutely superb, one of the best displays by a centre half I have seen, and I have always made a conscious effort to keep my eye out on his performances since. Would be a great addition, I follow a couple Manchester City bloggers on twitter and for much of last season they were calling for him to get more starts, he really is highly regarded by the City faithful. Hope it comes off.
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Literally?
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Wasn't Irvine at Everton from 2002 until he went to Preston in 2007? Meaning he worked with Lescott 2006-2007?
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Quality signing but the big question is who does he replace? And surely this means the end for Dawson!
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Quality signing but the big question is who does he replace? And surely this means the end for Dawson!
I would say he is a replacement for Lugano.
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Quality signing but the big question is who does he replace? And surely this means the end for Dawson!
Maybe Arry' will throw us a few million for Olsson
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Would be a really great start to the transfer window if we pulled this off. We desperately need some quality in the back 4, this guy was bought for over £20 million for City.
Wonder if this would mean Olsson leaving? Both of them are left sided centre backs. He can also play LB but i'd hope us signing him doesn't mean we will only be in the market for one LB.
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We will never meet his wage demands
Don't get excited
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If we signed Lescott I will be literally over the moon. He's better than any defender we have at the moment by a country mile. Anyone finding a negative with the prospect of a signing of this calibre of player can seriously do one.
Agreed
Took me forever to put this on kept getting warnings about new posts, lol!!!
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We will never meet his wage demands
Don't get excited
He's in for a medical tomorrow apparently, not 100% how it works but doesn't the medical usually come after you've agreed terms?
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If this is the kind of free transfer we are able to pick up this summer then ill be buzzing, signing players like Lescott will attract other players here aswell.
If he signs its a statement of intent by the board in regard to the playing staff
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Could easily get into most mid prem league teams, great signing if it comes off.
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I think he will be a great signing. A player who I think would get in to most Premiership teams outside the top four bar one or two, lots of experience and I think it would also help attract other players to come too. Lets hope we get it sorted.
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The fan inside me says a great signing if it comes off.
The realist inside me says 'is this another deflector (oh well we tried to sign Sherwood/Lescott and couldn't agree terms)
Hope its the fan that is pleased and not the realist proved correct.
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diversion tactics or not if we sign Lescott its a top top signing.
I cant believe people would rather wallow in self-pity in regard to Irvines appointment than be uplifted by signing a top Premier League defender
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The fan inside me says a great signing if it comes off.
The realist inside me says 'is this another deflector (oh well we tried to sign Sherwood/Lescott and couldn't agree terms)
Hope its the fan that is pleased and not the realist proved correct.
We have become so cynical as a fan base and for good reason nothing appears straight forward anymore.
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The fan inside me says a great signing if it comes off.
The realist inside me says 'is this another deflector (oh well we tried to sign Sherwood/Lescott and couldn't agree terms)
Hope its the fan that is pleased and not the realist proved correct.
I do question whether the club would have this sort of information released if there was much doubt in the deal.
Especially after the reactions from fans over the last couple of days.
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He's in for a medical tomorrow apparently, not 100% how it works but doesn't the medical usually come after you've agreed terms?
Not with us it doesn't !!!!
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Looks more probable, as he has high regard for Alan Irvine.
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diversion tactics or not if we sign Lescott its a top top signing.
I cant believe people would rather wallow in self-pity in regard to Irvines appointment than be uplifted by signing a top Premier League defender
I promise I will be very up lifted.......
when he's signed
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I promise I will be very up lifted.......
when he's signed
WHEN he's sgined, I will be over the moon and will take back some of what I've said this past week... WHEN a few more sign of a decent calibre I will happily eat humble pie. Let's see what happens.
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Looks more probable, as he has high regard for Alan Irvine.
Only if he takes a 50% wage cut
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Lescott is not going to agree to a medical if he's not agreed or at least been made aware of terms - there'd be no point in him being poked and probed by a team he's got no interest in signing for and so although it may not be completely done deal wise (the idea of a medical is to check that there's no hidden risks with a deal before it's concrete) it's safe to say it's at advance stages and terms are less likely to be an issue.
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Is he on that high a salary though? Didn't he sign before the new regime went in, not sure, perhaps someone can advise.
Let's hope it's not another 'smoke screen' like the sheer wood fiasco was.
Now we have a coach all matters will now be focused on signings, and there will be some heart breaks and wild rumours about I've no doubt.
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So, can we all just put the pills back in the cabinet....... for the time being at least ;D
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Irvine wouldn't attract good players though ;)
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Maybe I'm jumping the gun a little but with the entire furore surrounding the club at the moment I don’t think they would have leaked this information if they weren’t extremely confident of the deal being completed. Can you imagine if it didn’t happen, the amount of pelters the club would get on top of everything else, it would be off the scale.
Incidentally I did see a few rumours on twitter yesterday that Lescott had decided to turn down Hull and West Ham but passed it off as hot air.
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waste of time signing Lescott, i'm unsure as to why people are getting excited about a player who passed his peak 5 years ago and at his peak he was only average.
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We will never meet his wage demands
Don't get excited
In fairness we have let so many players go there must be room for very good wages for one or two key players.
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waste of time signing Lescott, i'm unsure as to why people are getting excited about a player who passed his peak 5 years ago and at his peak he was only average.
So average that Man City paid £22million for him.
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waste of time signing Lescott, i'm unsure as to why people are getting excited about a player who passed his peak 5 years ago and at his peak he was only average.
£20 million international who has played over 160 games for one of the finest clubs in this country over the last 5 years. Do me a favour.
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waste of time signing Lescott, i'm unsure as to why people are getting excited about a player who passed his peak 5 years ago and at his peak he was only average.
I disagree entirely he is clearly so much better than what we currently have and good for another few years yet, this isn't a Lugano who was clearly passed his best well before we signed him. Signing players of his ilk could also help us to convince other players to join us or remain at the club if they want out although in fairness I did think the same about Anelka and it didn't quite happen that way.
With all that said I won't believe it until I see that picture of him holding the famous pinstripes aloft, ffs!
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I doubt his wage demands were all that ridiculous if Hull were the previous front runners, I'm sure he'll be one of our best paid players, if not the best, but that shouldn't be too much of a problem given Anelka went, whilst Lugano was surely also on a big wage.
Not to mention he may well want to live local again, he is from Birmingham after all.
We can only hope it happens anyway, the statement of intent we've been needing signing wise. He may be older but to be fair he never had much pace in the first place.
waste of time signing Lescott, i'm unsure as to why people are getting excited about a player who passed his peak 5 years ago and at his peak he was only average.
His best season was 11/12. He was also excellent for England in Euro 2012, so 2 years ago.
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Man City overspending that's all, he's been no where near his best for years. You were all this excited with Anelka and look how that turned out.
He will be injured for most of the season, whilst he improves on Lugano he's not better than Dawson, Ollson and Mcauley so it will have little reflection on the line up.
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I'd have to agree he's a good player but why are we signing a first choice centre half. Olsson or McAuley on there way or being dropped.
Surely other areas of the squad are more important right now.
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Chris Lepkowski â€@chrislepkowski 6m
AI: Negotiations are going well. Hopefully we're able to meet Joleon's demands. That's the calibre of player we would like to bring in #wba
the bit about demands would be the worry ;) ;)
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If we sign him he must be in line as captain material as well I would have thought.
At least if he's used to AI's methods he can impart a bit of knowledge as well
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I can't believe any right-minded individual would suggest that a player who played in Premier League matches and Champions League matches for the Champions of England last season, and is currently valued at £6million is not a good signing for WBA
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Man City overspending that's all, he's been no where near his best for years. You were all this excited with Anelka and look how that turned out.
He will be injured for most of the season, whilst he improves on Lugano he's not better than Dawson, Ollson and Mcauley so it will have little reflection on the line up.
Not better than Dawson? Are you for real?
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Very odd for Irvine to confirm there's a interest. For me he must be very confident of signing him and the deal must be in very advanced stages for Irvine to feel confident enough to talk about it.
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I'd have to agree he's a good player but why are we signing a first choice centre half. Olsson or McAuley on there way or being dropped.
Surely other areas of the squad are more important right now.
We only have 3 first team CB's so we obviously need another one. I agree there's more important positions we need to strengthen but you can't pass on an opportunity like Lescott on a free. He's a level above anything we've got at the moment.
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We only have 3 first team CB's so we obviously need another one. I agree there's more important positions we need to strengthen but you can't pass on an opportunity like Lescott on a free. He's a level above anything we've got at the moment.
Who would be your first choice pairing then???
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I'd be very suprised if salary and other such items haven't been at least 90% ironed out.
As others have said, neither side would want to go through a medical and THEN negoiate contracts
He's earned a huge amount at Man City and maybe money isn't the be all and end all at this point of his career, maybe he just wants to play?
Also, with Rosenberg, Lugano, Anelka and Odemwingie off the books, to name but a few, I dare say we have several £100k a week to spend on the right people. We're geared towards paying good wages these days, not big fees, which is an approach i agree with.
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Who would be your first choice pairing then???
Lescott/McAuley
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Man City overspending that's all, he's been no where near his best for years. You were all this excited with Anelka and look how that turned out.
He will be injured for most of the season, whilst he improves on Lugano he's not better than Dawson, Ollson and Mcauley so it will have little reflection on the line up.
Ill have some of whatever you are smoking
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As things stand he will be first choice left back if we get him.
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Hope this comes off. Given any misgivings about the appointment of Irvine among other potential signings about whether we are really a club with a top flight future, this could help settle those down and put us back on a number of player's radar as still a good move.
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Maybe sessgod is a dingle . A player who has played for England and Man City on a regular basis is not better than who we have .
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All about opinions, he's certainly entitled to his whether we agree or not.
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Who would be your first choice pairing then???
Olsson and Lescott would be the better 2. Both left footed and I do rate GMac, but i'd go with those two as my starters..... Ben in goal... not a bad central 3. Now just need the missing 4 or 5 to go around them.
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If somehow this comes off you have to go with Lescott and GMAC for me.
Olsson is never far off a lapse of concentration and Gmac is a leader.
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His wages are supposed to be 90,000 a week but he is prepared to halve them to stay in premier league . Can see us off 50k a week .
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Man City overspending that's all, he's been no where near his best for years. You were all this excited with Anelka and look how that turned out.
He will be injured for most of the season, whilst he improves on Lugano he's not better than Dawson, Ollson and Mcauley so it will have little reflection on the line up.
Lescott is in a different class to anything we have currently. If Olsson was as good as people make out he'd have got a move to a big club some time ago.
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I'd have to agree he's a good player but why are we signing a first choice centre half. Olsson or McAuley on there way or being dropped.
Surely other areas of the squad are more important right now.
You should always be looking to improve the starting 11 and not just the squad. Olsson and McAuley are both on the decline IMO. We could get 3 very good years out of Lescott.
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Until any deal has a signature attached to it my advise would be stay calm it could be a smoke screen or it could go through but more often than not like most thing to do with us its a smoke screen.
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Until any deal has a signature attached to it my advise would be stay charm it could be a smoke screen or it could go through but more often than not like most thing to do with us its a smoke screen.
A smoke screen suggests that it's not real and that it's there to drum up excitement - firstly I can't think of any outright lie we've ever told to drum up excitement, there's usually some truth in the media speculation about our business, and do you really think the club are going to make something up considering the current opinion towards the club. If we make this up and there's no truth in it and it doesn't come off, they're committing suicide.
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Maybe sessgod is a dingle . A player who has played for England and Man City on a regular basis is not better than who we have .
I am not a dingle and it's my opinion I'm sorry it doesn't meet with your requirements... I didn't think we all had to agree on everything and make it a happy shiny place to leave messages.
You have said it yourself - he did play for England, he did play for Man City, he doesn't now because he isn't good enough, he's also better than what Man United have but I don't see them breaking down walls to try and get his signature.
I think it's an Anelka, Sinclair, Lugano move by the club to make us all happy after the Alan Irvine appointment and in reality it aint that great of a signing.
You see a name of a once decent player who had a good few seasons and you get excited, I'm not, I'm being realistic.
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Irvine on the subject of Lescott: "Negotiations are going well. Hopefully we're able to meet Joleon's demands."
That to me says he probably wont be coming and Alan Irvine will know why we go through so many managers.
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Irvine on the subject of Lescott: "Negotiations are going well. Hopefully we're able to meet Joleon's demands."
That to me says he probably wont be coming and Alan Irvine will know why we go through so many managers.
I can't take your opinion seriously whilst you disrespect a bloke who is yet to take a training session for us :-[
Let's see if he comes or not, of course it is just speculation at the moment but we will all find out in the coming days how serious we are about this.
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Lescott is better than anything we have had for a long while and would walk into most Premier League teams. I doubt it will happen for one of two reasons, one being his wage demands above what we can physically afford and I would never slate the club for that and the other reason being other clubs who do have the money to throw around will offer him a better deal.
I don't care if he is an ex dingle, he is a quality defender and if not for being happy to sit on the City bench would been in the side at the World Cup for us.
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Lescott is better than anything we have had for a long while and would walk into most Premier League teams. I doubt it will happen for one of two reasons, one being his wage demands above what we can physically afford and I would never slate the club for that and the other reason being other clubs who do have the money to throw around will offer him a better deal.
I don't care if he is an ex dingle, he is a quality defender and if not for being happy to sit on the City bench would been in the side at the World Cup for us.
The Wolves connection should have zero bearing he is a quality player and I'd judging by peoples reaction on here it doesn't bother them one bit.
The money thing is true, if Stoke or Hull ring his agent and say right we are offering him 20k a week extra come sign for us and he does then who is it who gets vilified? The club for not spending stupid money.
He is good but you can't have him earning well over our other earners because that just sets an unhealthy precedent in the squad and will only cause problems further down the line.
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I can't take your opinion seriously whilst you disrespect a bloke who is yet to take a training session for us :-[
Let's see if he comes or not, of course it is just speculation at the moment but we will all find out in the coming days how serious we are about this.
Was it the the F in his middle name? If that's the case you won't be taking many peoples opinions on here seriously.
Merely pointing out that when JP doesn't meet the demands of lescott he will find out what it's like to work under JP and not get what he wants.
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The Wolves connection should have zero bearing he is a quality player and I'd judging by peoples reaction on here it doesn't bother them one bit.
The money thing is true, if Stoke or Hull ring his agent and say right we are offering him 20k a week extra come sign for us and he does then who is it who gets vilified? The club for not spending stupid money.
He is good but you can't have him earning well over our other earners because that just sets an unhealthy precedent in the squad and will only cause problems further down the line.
If anything I like it that he has Wolves connections. The Wolves fans would be gutted if Lescott signs for us and we should embrace that!
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If anything I like it that he has Wolves connections. The Wolves fans would be gutted if Lescott signs for us and we should embrace that!
Yes couldn't agree more there, since we don't get the opportunity to smash them twice a season anymore these little things are enjoyable.
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Was it the the F in his middle name? If that's the case you won't be taking many peoples opinions on here seriously.
Merely pointing out that when JP doesn't meet the demands of lescott he will find out what it's like to work under JP and not get what he wants.
Isn't it time to get over that F thing? It's a bit juvenile don't you think?
For what it's worth, I like JL and think he could do a good job for us,
As a previous poster said, if Jonas was as good as he thinks he us, he wouldn't still be with us would he..
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I dont care who he has played for previously if he is going to improve the squad which he will easily do.
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Not a 50k / week player IMO, prone to regular mistakes at key times.
He is better than what we have currently, but 50k/wk , not for me.
Anyway if it came off can Dawson play RB / LB?
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"Negotiations are going well. Hopefully we're able to meet Joleon's demands."
That word worries me with the Albion when it comes to contracts... :o
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for us to announce our interest means one of two things for me 1. its either very very close to being completed or 2. It's the West Ham approach of announcing it knowing full well it won't come off but shows 'ambition' with the fans.
Hope it does come off, but just seems very unlike us
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Not a 50k / week player IMO, prone to regular mistakes at key times.
He is better than what we have currently, but 50k/wk , not for me.
Like it or not £50k a week is easily the going rate for a player of Lescott's calibre, infact there's far worse players earning considerably more money than that.
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Like it or not £50k a week is easily the going rate for a player of Lescott's calibre, infact there's far worse players earning considerably more money than that.
Spot on, we should be paying £50k a week if we want these kind of players. When you take into consideration our players are probably on £25-30k wage structures, with some more towards the £40-45k, it's going to cost more to get better. Eventually we have to start doing that.
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Not a 50k / week player IMO, prone to regular mistakes at key times.
He is better than what we have currently, but 50k/wk , not for me.
Anyway if it came off can Dawson play RB / LB?
Dawson can't play right back to save his life - Arsenal away was painful.
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Not a 50k / week player IMO, prone to regular mistakes at key times.
He is better than what we have currently, but 50k/wk , not for me.
Anyway if it came off can Dawson play RB / LB?
Did you see him play right back last season? If you did you wouldn't put out a statement like that
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Spurs and Westham after him apparently.
If its a straight cash offer we'll be third in that queue
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Did you see him play right back last season? If you did you wouldn't put out a statement like that
Can !!, I said can he?
It was ironic, Jesus christ !
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Spurs and Westham after him apparently.
If its a straight cash offer we'll be third in that queue
He's a free agent, so only cash needed is a signing on fee.
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maybe we could persuade one of his best pals Micah Richards down here too, cracking right back if he stays fit.
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I know I'm going to get shot down for this, but at 31 years of age, he's not the kind of player we need to add to an already aging centre of defence. Good defender of course, but over the last couple of seasons he's been dreadful on the rare occasion he's played. It's this policy of signing aging players that got us in this mess in the first place. Unfortunately, it doesn't look like anything's going to change
Too old? McCauley? Needs match time and would be a great signing.
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Too old? McCauley? Needs match time and would be a great signing.
Just because McCauley worked out doesn't mean all old cb's will work out for us. I have a feeling Lescott will be another expensive flop for us. We should look at up and coming players. We need a much younger, fresher squad.
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Just because McCauley worked out doesn't mean all old cb's will work out for us. I have a feeling Lescott will be another expensive flop for us. We should look at up and coming players. We need a much younger, fresher squad.
I would agree in general, but the problem with the older players like Lugano and Anelka is they genuinely were past it.
Lescott has neither relied on pace and isn't as old. He'd be as big a coup as a signing as we've had in many years.
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Just because McCauley worked out doesn't mean all old cb's will work out for us. I have a feeling Lescott will be another expensive flop for us. We should look at up and coming players. We need a much younger, fresher squad.
I'm in the sceptical camp as well. And I think this (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/eng_prem/8199120.stm) was worse than anything Pete did.
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The press have mentioned he is scheduled for a medical tomorrow. That surely means terms have been agreed hopefully we can get this tied up.
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The press have mentioned he is scheduled for a medical tomorrow. That surely means terms have been agreed hopefully we can get this tied up.
Lets hope and pray. He would be a big step up in class. I can't see where the sceptics are coming from with this potential signing???
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Lets hope and pray. He would be a big step up in class. I can't see where the sceptics are coming from with this potential signing???
Some people just won't be ever happy no matter who we sign. You just can't satisfy everyone.
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I had massive reservations about this when I heard it so I asked the question and fair play to the club this is happening and I mean definitely happening, apart from a top 6 club coming in at the last minute he is a West Brom player and that is from the horses mouth.
For all those doubting his quality, are you kidding? A £100k a week player last year and Premiership winner with massive experience including England caps. What more do you want/expect. I'm amazed at some fans. I would welcome any suggestions as to who we could realistically get that is better?
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I had massive reservations about this when I heard it so I asked the question and fair play to the club this is happening and I mean definitely happening, apart from a top 6 club coming in at the last minute he is a West Brom player and that is from the horses mouth.
For all those doubting his quality, are you kidding? A £100k a week player last year and Premiership winner with massive experience including England caps. What more do you want/expect. I'm amazed at some fans. I would welcome any suggestions as to who we could realistically get that is better?
great news 79 cheers
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If this comes off it will be a big big improvement on anything we currently have and is a signal of intent from a player aquisition point of view.
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He has quite firm roots in Quinton so that may be a reason behind his decision. Very pleased with this signing if it comes off. One of the better English defenders around and still only 31. He will do for a club like us aiming for mid table. Hopefully we can complete the deal.
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Fair play to the guy I hope I see him drinking in Quintons members club soon :P
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I had massive reservations about this when I heard it so I asked the question and fair play to the club this is happening and I mean definitely happening, apart from a top 6 club coming in at the last minute he is a West Brom player and that is from the horses mouth.
For all those doubting his quality, are you kidding? A £100k a week player last year and Premiership winner with massive experience including England caps. What more do you want/expect. I'm amazed at some fans. I would welcome any suggestions as to who we could realistically get that is better?
Cheers b79! Always wait to see your posts I. These topics, happy to hear it! Anyone being negative about this are unbelievable!
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Man City overspending that's all, he's been no where near his best for years. You were all this excited with Anelka and look how that turned out.
He will be injured for most of the season, whilst he improves on Lugano he's not better than Dawson, Ollson and Mcauley so it will have little reflection on the line up.
are you on the wind up or what
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Lescott is an interesting potential signing. Given that he is left footed if he threatens any of the existing Centre Back's place in the team is Olsson (possible deal with QPR?). With regard to wages we certainly would have got to £50k for Kalou and Anelka's package although heavily performance related was certainly in that region. If other better paying Premier league teams are in for him it will be tough for us to land him and how much more could go for is debatable in his case.
I would hope that there are younger players recruited during the window but Lescott is a far better prospect than an already shot Lugano and critically 3 years younger.
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Joleon lescott the Albion man!!! :P
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Kinda looking forward to him and Dawson as a pairing
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For all those doubting his quality, are you kidding? A £100k a week player last year and Premiership winner with massive experience including England caps. What more do you want/expect. I'm amazed at some fans. I would welcome any suggestions as to who we could realistically get that is better?
I understand that most club decisions make most fans either delirious or enraged, but I happen to be a fairly calm individual. I was one of the very few not incensed (nor thrilled) by Irvine's appointment. I did not say Lescott is terrible, awful, a huge disaster, and let's paint the bedsheets and march on The Hawthorns.
Yes, he has been a fine player in the past, better than we can realistically expect to have.
I say merely that I am sceptical, that 32-year-old (which he will be when the season starts) outfield players do not improve and often decline. They are injured more frequently. Expensive, 'big-name' signings are not how we reached eighth place -- not that we couldn't have, only that our track record signing lesser-known (and typically younger) outfield players has been better.
Hopefully he'll be just as good as he has been in the past.
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Would be a great statement of intent by the club if we could get him.
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Would be a great statement of intent by the club if we could get him.
We said the same about Anelka!
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I had massive reservations about this when I heard it so I asked the question and fair play to the club this is happening and I mean definitely happening, apart from a top 6 club coming in at the last minute he is a West Brom player and that is from the horses mouth.
For all those doubting his quality, are you kidding? A £100k a week player last year and Premiership winner with massive experience including England caps. What more do you want/expect. I'm amazed at some fans. I would welcome any suggestions as to who we could realistically get that is better?
I always keep a keen eye out for your posts thanks for this fantastic news.
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Would be a top signing. The ex dingle revolution continues.
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I always keep a keen eye out for your posts thanks for this fantastic news.
I certainly don't doubt Baggie79 BUT I will only believe is an Albion player when I see holding the scarf aloft at the training complex !
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79 do you believe we could have official confirmation from the club in the next 48 hours considering he is apparently scheduled for a medical tomorrow.
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79 do you believe we could have official confirmation from the club in the next 48 hours considering he is apparently scheduled for a medical tomorrow.
It will be 48/72 hrs or never I would imagine.
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Micah Richards and Lescott are v v good friends... Richards also Birmingham born.
If Hull are interested in Richards then surely if we sign Lescott we might have a go?
I know its highly unlikely but.. you never know.
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He has quite firm roots in Quinton so that may be a reason behind his decision. Very pleased with this signing if it comes off. One of the better English defenders around and still only 31. He will do for a club like us aiming for mid table. Hopefully we can complete the deal.
he certainly does and went to the same school as I did and his accident which his scar is from happened right outside our house as he and from school which is 2 doors away
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Micah Richards and Lescott are v v good friends... Richards also Birmingham born.
If Hull are interested in Richards then surely if we sign Lescott we might have a go?
I know its highly unlikely but.. you never know.
How olds richards now?he is still young isnt he?
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How olds richards now?he is still young isnt he?
Micah Lincoln Richards (born 24 June 1988) That will make him 26...is an English professional footballer who plays for Manchester City. A powerful right back, on making his full England debut in November 2006, he was the youngest defender ever to be called up to the England squad. Richards has won 13 caps for England and played in the Great Britain squad for the 2012 Olympic football tournament.
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I would be delighted if we got Lescott. He should be in this England squad imo. Great experience and at 31you could say he is in his prime. Very shocked by some on here saying he's not good enough. He is still good enough to hold his own in most Prem teams.
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I would be delighted if we got Lescott. He should be in this England squad imo. Great experience and at 31you could say he is in his prime. Very shocked by some on here saying he's not good enough. He is still good enough to hold his own in most Prem teams.
Agree with this.
Would be a terrific signing and a good start to the road of recovery.
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Micah Richards and Lescott are v v good friends... Richards also Birmingham born.
If Hull are interested in Richards then surely if we sign Lescott we might have a go?
I know its highly unlikely but.. you never know.
If we got Micah Richards it would kill all the bad feeling I have towards Peace.
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A smoke screen suggests that it's not real and that it's there to drum up excitement - firstly I can't think of any outright lie we've ever told to drum up excitement, there's usually some truth in the media speculation about our business, and do you really think the club are going to make something up considering the current opinion towards the club. If we make this up and there's no truth in it and it doesn't come off, they're committing suicide.
Like A smoke screen to bring in Sherwood knowing he would not come to us without his own back-room staff kinda smoke screen.
Only Lescott's could stumble on wages, but i hope i'm wrong ;)
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For someone of Baggie79s calibre on here to say he is ours unless a top 6 club comes in for him and the club to be so open about him today I would suggest it's nearly as good as done with a medical tomorrow. Let's have faith. I also agree on the Richards point I watch alot of city tv on YouTube and lescott is very close with Richards...but surely the both of them would be to good to be true.
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No doubting his quality but have concerns about his fitness. He only managed 10 games for City last season but not sure how much this is down to injuries or others being selected ahead of him.
We have a record of signing injury prone players of course - Gera (second time round), Reid, Sinclair, Anichebe all come to mind.
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Could Richards come on loan,?
Delighted with the proposition of Lescott
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Could Richards come on loan,?
Delighted with the proposition of Lescott
I'd be nervous of Richards. Poor injury record the last few seasons.
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Let's hope we hear some positive news today regarding this. I'm not sure Micah Richards is the answer at RB as some are suggesting, he gets injured a lot. We'd probably need another RB of similar quality if we had him, which = £££££
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A few people seem not to want Lescott because of his Wolves connections well in the spirit of keeping it local i would like to add that imo he would be a good signing and is a helluva lot better than Senderos!!!!!! :D :D
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I'm struggling to believe people wouldn't take Micah Richards!? I'd have him here in a shot! Not that I believe it would happen anyway
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I'm struggling to believe people wouldn't take Micah Richards!? I'd have him here in a shot! Not that I believe it would happen anyway
I'm not saying i wouldn't take, i am saying he probably isn't the solution down to injuries, therefore we'd probably need another right back of similar quality or that can at least justify a starting place in the premier league
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Without getting too far off topic but there are key differences between Lescott and Richards which makes the former possible and the latter unlikely and possibly less desirable. Firstly Lescott is out of contract and therefore whatever he was on at City is irrelevant and no fee is involved whereas Richards still has a year left and could sit on the contract at City therefore will probably want something closer to the money he is earning at City plus City will want a fee which obviously makes him a lot more expensive. Lescott has played more frequently and has not been injury prone whereas Richards has barely played for two seasons and been plagued with injuries.
In short I think we can be fairly confident in what we are getting with Lescott whereas Richards costs more and is a little bit more of a risk. If we were getting the Richards of three years ago great like the Scot Sinclair of his pre City days but I don't think we could be sure of that we weren't buying a very expensive stiff.
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Good signing, that.
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Anyone else slightly concerned that he will end up playing at left back if he signs? I'm very happy with this signing as long as he plays in his best position.
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I said that yesterday, if he signs he would be first choice left back as things stand.
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I really don't think he'd come to us to play left back. I'm expecting a specialist left back to come in like Cresswell and more than likely a loan as cover.
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Would being captain perhaps be part of the offer?
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It worries me that Craig Dawson might get fed up, he did very well at right back, when asked.
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It worries me that Craig Dawson might get fed up, he did very well at right back, when asked.
I'm sorry but he really didn't do very well at right back; Arsenal away being the worst performance.
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Just had to post a medley of the best bits from over at Molinspew Mix.
Enjoy ;D
I adore him and this would hurt.
I hope his knees fall off!
I hope he's not gone there.
He'll give a good account........................in his declining years!
Gutted if he goes there, always been a fan especially when he was at our club
Been there, done that! Would put us back years!
I am not gutted but disappointed in him. If he had any respect for Wolves he would not join them.
He's dead to me now... Dead!
Gutted if he ends up with those lot.
I certainly wouldn't applaud him if he came back here after signing for them.
This would be an astonishing signing for them. Gutted if it happens.
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It worries me that Craig Dawson might get fed up, he did very well at right back, when asked.
I'm hoping our first choice pairing will be Dawson and Lescott next season. McAuley is well past his best for me and Olsson is heading that way as well. Dawson can also learn a hell of a lot playing with a centre half of Lescott's calibre.
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Lescott would be a quality signing.
Dawson was pants at right back but that's because he's not a right back TBF, to say he was good though....
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Would being captain perhaps be part of the offer?
Lets hope so. We are desperately crying out for a true leader in the side. Brunt hides when the going gets tough.
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Lets hope so. We are desperately crying out for a true leader in the side. Brunt hides when the going gets tough.
that's unfair, Brunt was our best player when we were having our hardest period last season
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that's unfair, Brunt was our best player when we were having our hardest period last season
The best of an awful bunch at the time. Did you see him at Man City and Sunderland. He hid for 90mins in both games.
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Lets hope so. We are desperately crying out for a true leader in the side. Brunt hides when the going gets tough.
Can't say I agree with that, Chris Brunt is one of very few players we have that never hides on the pitch and always wants the ball.
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I never got Brunt as captain, always assumed there must be something he was doing off the pitch/in the dressing room, because on the pitch all he did was windmill his arms and look petulant.
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Can't say I agree with that, Chris Brunt is one of very few players we have that never hides on the pitch and always wants the ball.
I was coming from a leadership point of view rather than footballing. I agree he is always willing and looking to take control. However for me he doesn't seem to rally the troops well enough. His constant moaning and petulance is annoying too. McInnes was the best captain we've had for a long time.
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Really hope we sign Lescott as he is a classy player in defence.
If nothing else it gives up hope to have a great last away day at Arsenal next year when we could all dress up as Star Trek actors, after all Joleon is a Klingon ;D
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Really hope we sign Lescott as he is a classy player in defence.
If nothing else it gives up hope to have a great last away day at Arsenal next year when we could all dress up as Star Trek actors, after all Joleon is a Klingon ;D
Or if we finish well Kilts for Irvine
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John Percy, a very reliable midlands based football writer for the Telegraph, has tweeted today that Lescott will have his medical tonight with the club hopeful of confirming a deal in the next 24 hours.
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John Percy, a very reliable midlands based football writer for the Telegraph, has tweeted today that Lescott will have his medical tonight with the club hopeful of confirming a deal in the next 24 hours.
I've not followed that guy and I hope he's correct
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Just announce on the snails at sky sports, lescott currently having a medical as we speak!!!
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If JL signs it will be interesting to see who he plays with. He has to be straight in the team.
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CL has tweeted that there is no guarantee that the transfer will be completed today because medicals can drag out. If not, it should be completed tomorrow, he says.
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New coach, new start, it's got to be a new defence for me. Lescott and Dawson, get rid of Olsson, keep McAuley as back up and get in Martin Kelly to cover centre back and right back. I'd even go as far as make Lescott captain.
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CL has tweeted that there is no guarantee that the transfer will be completed today because medicals can drag out. If not, it should be completed tomorrow, he says.
Tomorrow it is then...
The clubs motto... Why so something today when it can be done tomorrow...
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This is a massive signal of intent for me. Lescott is a classy player (forget the fact that he's a dingle), and is only 31. He's good for at least a 3 year deal.
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This would be good news, the club wouldnt announce that on an England match day anyway.
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Tomorrow it is then...
The clubs motto... Why so something today when it can be done tomorrow...
Lescott will probably turn us down and we'll end up with Sean St ledger. ;D
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Tomorrow it is then...
The clubs motto... Why so something today when it can be done tomorrow...
It's all agreed already but club want to announce tomorrow so as not to bury good news in the media build up towards tonight's England game. This a small chance that there might be a small line of conformation later but no big announcement expected today.
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Bit of a contrast to the Irvine announcement!
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It's all agreed already but club want to announce tomorrow so as not to bury good news in the media build up towards tonight's England game. This a small chance that there might be a small line of conformation later but no big announcement expected today.
Serious? Yet they chose to announce the head coach appointment in exactly the opposite way! Unbelievable.
Great news though, cheers for the update. 8)
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What's the betting he'll fail his medical due to his knee reconstruction even though he passed medicals at both Everton and Man City?
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If he dosent sign tomorrow its going to fall through isnt it??
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If he dosent sign tomorrow its going to fall through isnt it??
Its a done deal, why you stressing bro?
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Its a done deal, why you stressing bro?
Because he's an Albion fan and we have all learned to expect the worst at all times.
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This is a fantastic signing. We must now follow this up with some more top signings if we are to progress.
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Its a done deal, why you stressing bro?
Been down this path to many times in the last few seasons to say it's done until he's signed & we can all see the pic of him & a scarf in his hands.
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Its a done deal, why you stressing bro?
Stress is my middle name when it comes to albion signing players :-) could be massive for us but if it falls through its going to be chaos again.
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I don't know how these signings work? But would a medical be the last part of it with terms agreed before?
There was a post earlier that said he had only started 10 games.
That I believe is because City's manager preferred and Argintinian in his position?
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Lescott will probably turn us down and we'll end up with Sean St ledger. ;D
Or a dobbin that ran in the St Leger Stakes five years ago. And broke a leg.
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I don't know how these signings work? But would a medical be the last part of it with terms agreed before?
There was a post earlier that said he had only started 10 games.
That I believe is because City's manager preferred and Argintinian in his position?
Yes because pellegrini despite being a good manager isn't very clever when it comes to picking his defense.
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This will be an unbelievable signing if it happens - he will by a million miles improve our back four.
Good statement of intent from the club at a time when the supporters needed a very big pick me up.
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Yes because pellegrini despite being a good manager isn't very clever when it comes to picking his defense.
Thought so! Fingers crossed!!!
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Brilliant signing and with a full pre season too would be ready to roll. Who's next?
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This will be an unbelievable signing if it happens - he will by a million miles improve our back four.
Good statement of intent from the club at a time when the supporters needed a very big pick me up.
Exactly right, there can be no negativity with regards to this signing. He is just a completely different level to what we have already.
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Brilliant signing and with a full pre season too would be ready to roll. Who's next?
has he definitely signed then?
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Exactly right, there can be no negativity with regards to this signing. He is just a completely different level to what we have already.
Club urgently needed to dispel the 'cheap' tag they have earned themselves.
Signing Lescott goes a long way to help removing that tag although I'm sure they know there's more business required.
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Stress is my middle name when it comes to albion signing players :-) could be massive for us but if it falls through its going to be chaos again.
Hahaha, I know how you feel. I think this one is in the bag though (hopefully not famous last words).
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It hasn't really been mentioned but he chips in with a few goals too, was always in my fantasy teams especially in his Everton days! I like the prospect of him and GMac attacking a set piece
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Due to City's busy schedule he still made 24 apps in various cups/Europe etc so it's not like he's been twiddling his thumbs for the past season.
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Until there's a picture of him in the stands with an Albion top on or scarf I wont believe a word of it, especially if its a rumour perpetuated by WBA fc. I mean look at the last rumour they "helped" circulate and look what we ended up with. If the same happens here, we could end up with Quarry Bank Celtics centre half FFS !!
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Until there's a picture of him in the stands with an Albion top on or scarf I wont believe a word of it, especially if its a rumour perpetuated by WBA fc. I mean look at the last rumour they "helped" circulate and look what we ended up with. If the same happens here, we could end up with Quarry Bank Celtics centre half FFS !!
The broad stripe or the pin stripe top?
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Just seen on sky sports news Lesscott having medical at west Brom.
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I'm praying on this going through as some light relief from the recent rubbish. However just two days ago it was reported he'd agreed personal terms with Hull for a 2 year deal + 1 more in favour. So let's keep fingers crossed and hope we grab him now.
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What time can we expect J-Lo news then? If Baggie79 says the club want to maximise publicity then I would expect that to be around 11am - 1pm perhaps?
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The deal is done
https://twitter.com/WBAFCofficial/status/479919872580009984/photo/1
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Over the moon with that, huge signing
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BqkElJBCEAAR7oU.jpg)
Dingles will LOVE this picture!! ;D
Great signing, get in.
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Ive been highly critical of WBA, The Board and The Manager but this is a massive coup!
Two good signings so far! Now to add and build the squad up again!
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Amazing signing. Really addresses our defensive issues. I'm absolutely over the moon, and we have to say well done JP, Burton, Irvine for making this happen. Credit where credit is due. Hopefully this is the start of many similar great transfers.
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Great signing. Will bring great experience and a higher level of quality to our back 4.
Right next one please.
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BqkElJBCEAAR7oU.jpg)
Dingles will LOVE this picture!! ;D
Great signing, get in.
Photoshopped, it's a smokescreen lie spread by the club to appease fans.
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This is a fantastic signing, one which will really strengthen the back line considerably. Well done to the club and welcome to Joleon.
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Now get him back in the England squad after last night!
On a WBA front, great, BUT, lets keep improving the squad, light in lots of positions but certainly a great signing for us!
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Excellent signing. Still think if he would have played more for Manchester City last year we would have probably been watching him last night against Uruguay. Welcome to WBA Joleon!
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Lescott is a Baggie, Lescott is a Baggie, la la la la, oi! la, la, la, la, oi!
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Mightily impressed by this signing, Clearly Irvine had an influence here from time at Everton and also Anichebe probably gave good reviews, Great signing and might ease some pressure off the new manager.
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Incredible signing. For anyone remotely critical of this, I can't think of a single player we could realistically have signed who is of a better quality than this.
Great move by the club after the last week. Good to us looking to do our business early. Whilst I didn't particularly mind the club keeping things close to their chest until officially announced it good to see the names being linked at the moment.
Player linked, and within 2 days he's signed. Not often that happens!
Well done Albion
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Ecstatic!
Superb signing
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Excellent signing.
So we don't have to worry about GKs, CDs or CMs any more. That just leaves FBs, Wingers and Strikers.
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Welcome to the Albion Joleon
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We will never meet his wage demands
Don't get excited
I too will eat my hat
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Signed up. Seen him in an Albion top, fantastic news to start the weekend!
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We will never meet his wage demands
Don't get excited
I too will eat my hat
Guys it's a done deal, better add some seasoning to that hat of yours!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2663534/Joleon-Lescott-joins-West-Bromwich-Albion-free-transfer-Manchester-City-Alan-Irvines-signing.html?ico=sport%5Eheadlines
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Photoshopped, it's a smokescreen lie spread by the club to appease fans.
Well its worked ;)
Good bit of business well done Albion.
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Excellent signing.
Keep em coming
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There's only 2 J.Lo's
There's only 2 J.Lo's
And we got the ugly one :-(
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I don't like being a pessimist, but i can't help fearing they've just made this signing to shut us up and they'll go back to the same old ways now :-\
mmmm, obviously hasn't worked in your case has it?
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Top signing, improvement on our current centre backs and has plenty of experience at this level, can’t ask for much more.
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Excellent signing.
This has restored a little bit more of my faith. Long way to go but its a positive start.
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Have to admit this is a great signing but needs to be one of many such signings and not a one -off. Has he signed permanent or just on loan ??
Fair play to Irvine if it was his influence that got Lescott here.
Oh and Peace is still a **** :D
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All I can say is wow ;
well done albion brill signing, how we managed this I do not know
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Have to admit this is a great signing but needs to be one of many such signings and not a one -off. Has he signed permanent or just on loan ??
Fair play to Irvine if it was his influence that got Lescott here.
Oh and Peace is still a **** :D
Ha ha! Yeah, keep 'em coming JP. We need more wise investments like this where you can clearly understand the logic behind it.
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Awesome signing. if he stays healthy, instantly becomes our best CB by a country mile.
We're also linked with Rodwell. Hope this is a sign we're setting our sights high this year and going for top quality players.
Whilst we're setting our sights so high, let's try for Lukaku and Mitroglou up front. Ashley Cole at LB and Micah Richards at RB. That would set us up nicely for next season.
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Have to admit this is a great signing but needs to be one of many such signings and not a one -off. Has he signed permanent or just on loan ??
Fair play to Irvine if it was his influence that got Lescott here.
Oh and Peace is still a **** :D
Two year deal with another year at the Club's option.
Great signing - probably the best England qualified centre back at this time.
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Awesome signing. If you want a laugh, head over to MolMix :D
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Awesome signing. if he stays healthy, instantly becomes our best CB by a country mile.
We're also linked with Rodwell. Hope this is a sign we're setting our sights high this year and going for top quality players.
Whilst we're setting our sights so high, let's try for Lukaku and Mitroglou up front. Ashley Cole at LB and Micah Richards at RB. That would set us up nicely for next season.
in your dreams :)
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I don't like being a pessimist, but i can't help fearing they've just made this signing to shut us up and they'll go back to the same old ways now :-\
Yeah Albion stop going for free transfers like this and go for your usual same old £15m signings.
As brilliant a signing as this is, this is still a free transfer, with a deal structured in the clubs favour, with us spending within our means. Pure stroke of brilliance considering. Congratulations to the club!
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Excellent signing and I am totally gobsmacked that we did it, expected the usual line of problems at the end and to see someone else come in and take him.
I hope we play him as a centre half and not a left back as he is much much better than anything we have at this club and should still be involved with the England squad
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Excellent signing but I'm very surprised he would want to come to us as he is known to have been a visitor to the dingles dressing room before the 5-1 mauling at the Custard Bowl.
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I hope all our future signings go through has quickly has this one has.
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Having been ultimately disappointed with last seasons 'fantastic' marquee signings (messrs Anelka and Sinclair (ok a loan), if you don't mind I'd rather remain a little less excited. Our Joleon played 10 PL games last season, and was kept out of the team for most of the season by the much maligned 'whatisname' De Michelis. Solid and dependable (if a little slow) is my take on it!
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Having been ultimately disappointed with last seasons 'fantastic' marquee signings (messrs Anelka and Sinclair (ok a loan), if you don't mind I'd rather remain a little less excited. Our Joleon played 10 PL games last season, and was kept out of the team for most of the season by the much maligned 'whatisname' De Michelis. Solid and dependable (if a little slow) is my take on it!
I agree with you on this.
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This is a good signing which has been completed very quickly by the club, without the usual faffing about, so well done to them for that. Before people start raving about it being down to Irvine's influence, it may well be that it's more to do with him wanting to be based in the West Midlands again. It can at least be said that Irvine being our head coach hasn't put him off though! :D
I'd rather we didn't have 3 our of our 4 centre-backs being the wrong side of 30 though. If Irvine is minded to play 3 centre-backs quite often (given that he's suggested we might play with 3 sometimes), we would really need 5 centre-backs in the squad. Remember that the emergency centre-back stand-ins Reid and Ridgwell have gone, in addition to Lugano, so the 4 specialist centre-backs we have now really are it and, therefore, none of them should be regarded as potential cover as full-backs.
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So you're suggesting that we regularly sign players of this calibre and quality?
No, but the transfer fits into our usual transfer policy does it not? You suggested we are doing things differently, and quality aside it's not like we've changed our policy towards free transfers and higher wages. The fact a player of Lescott's undoubted quality fits into that policy is great, but to suggest we've done something crazy to appease people is wrong - hard work and the right circumstances have made this happen, not Albion going balls to the wall on a transfer and spending shed loads to shut people up.
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A signing of top, top quality. Lescott is an absolutely superb centre back who if he'd moved last season would likely have been starting for England at this world cup.
A coup like this for a club like us is a huge deal, so well done to all involved.
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We have broken our wage structure to get him which also shows we are serious about next season.
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Just been looking into Lescotts stats and realised that he will be 32 on 16th August - the opening day of the season. Lets hope he has a good birthday!
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Super signing.. Lukaku would obviously know Irvine too.. It couldn't happen though ... Could it?!
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We have broken our wage structure to get him which also shows we are serious about next season.
I thought we may have - especially to get ahead of some other clubs.
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Great signing! Welcome to the Albion Joleon :D
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Welcome Joleon and well done to the club and to Alan Irvine for attracting him. Here's hoping for more great signings
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Awesome signing. if he stays healthy, instantly becomes our best CB by a country mile.
We're also linked with Rodwell. Hope this is a sign we're setting our sights high this year and going for top quality players.
Whilst we're setting our sights so high, let's try for Lukaku and Mitroglou up front. Ashley Cole at LB and Micah Richards at RB. That would set us up nicely for next season.
I know (or hope) you were being tongue in cheek but Mitroglou..really...don't even joke about it. Couldn't hit a cow's ar*e with a banjo.
The Lescott signing is very good news.....and it's really pi**ed the Hull City fans off a treat!
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Makes me laugh "Who will Alan Irvine attract?!" then Lescott signs haha
Lescott>Lugano
Gardner>Reid
Still a long way to go but it's a good start.
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Makes me laugh "Who will Alan Irvine attract?!" then Lescott signs haha
Lescott>Lugano
Gardner>Reid
Still a long way to go but it's a good start.
Great improvements on last year. Welcome Joleon and congrats to all involved to attract his quality must have needed some work.
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I'm very surprised he would want to come to us as he is known to have been a visitor to the dingles dressing room before the 5-1 mauling at the Custard Bowl.
Not sure how true that rumour can be, Man City had a game the same day which Lescott started.
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Top signing, this is a player who has been there and done it in recent times so it should raise the bar a bit standard wise for the rest of the squad, maybe get a few out their comfort zones!
It seems the Wolves and Villa fans have taken the news well too! Wolves regarded Lescott as one of them as he came through their academy, i almost want us to sign Robbie Keane on loan now just to rub the salt in!
Villa fans seem put out that they have ended up signing Senderos and apparently couldnt match what we were offering Lescott, who is a villa fan!
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Very good signing I must say.
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Makes me laugh "Who will Alan Irvine attract?!" then Lescott signs haha
Lescott>Lugano
Gardner>Reid
Still a long way to go but it's a good start.
Yes maybe the players can carry the coach especially if the players last four times as long as a coach. If a cheaper short term coach allows the signing of two more good players I can see the logic!
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Welcome Joleon, COYB!
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Welcome Joleon, top signing.
More of the same please Albion.
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Bless em, the dingles are devastated by this.
Could only imagine it feels like seeing Enzo Maresca in a Wolves shirt and to be fair to them that would 'sting' a little aswell ;D
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Not sure how true that rumour can be, Man City had a game the same day which Lescott started.
Lmfao! It shows you what some people know hey!
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in your dreams :)
Yes please let's not get over excited.
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Ok, so we have signed some old farts.
Now for the more telling and difficult part of signing some genuine up and coming young talent please.
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Ok, so we have signed some old farts.
Now for the more telling and difficult part of signing some genuine up and coming young talent please.
What's the point? If they are that good then they will get snapped up within a season. I'd rather sign players for here and now.
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Quote from Baggie79 - "We have broken our wage structure to get him which also shows we are serious about next season."
Alright it's not a game of oneupmanship - I still suggested a player on a free with higher wages was our norm and this is what this is, regardless of if he's the highest paid player. You carry on thinking that this is a signing to appease fans I'll see it as a good acquisition which was done because the opportunity was right and it strengthens the squad.
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forget whether he's highest paid player etc etc, for me the bigger picture here is that Lescott will have no doubt had other offers which in the past meant we would have probably missed out on him. Its a good signing, makes us stronger and showed everyone that the club still are going to compete - everyone wins, no too sure what people have to complain about on this one?!
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What's the point? If they are that good then they will get snapped up within a season. I'd rather sign players for here and now.
Because if we can sell with a profit we can get better players in. At least that way we can make a go for it, play some nice fun football and enjoy the ride and to have some fun along the way.
But you are correct, this club is just aiming for threading water and survival never mind good football or entertainment.
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Ok, so we have signed some old farts.
Now for the more telling and difficult part of signing some genuine up and coming young talent please.
If your not happy with lescott your never going to be happy mate. 31 old? For a center half he is at his peak.
He would have done a much better job then jagielka last night
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Can't for the life of me understand the negativity about this one. Not even a wolves connection should dampen this transfer, that was years ago. Move on.
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Can't for the life of me understand the negativity about this one. Not even a wolves connection should dampen this transfer, that was years ago. Move on.
The overwhelming majority on here have reacted positively to this.
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Yes agreed Nick, but there is as always still some negativity about this.
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When I first read of our interest, I thought it was just to let fans know that we're showing an interest in quality players, but deep down thought he'd probably be joining a Newcastle or an Everton.
Well done Albion & welcome Joleon ... Fantastic signing!
Now, what was that Dolly Parton song again? :D
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iey7HLliLw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iey7HLliLw)
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Welcome Joleon. Was told it was a done deal by Matt Murray at an event yesterday. He intimated a loan for Jack Rodwell could be next.
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Yes agreed Nick, but there is as always still some negativity about this.
There is nothing in the world that would please everyone. We could sign Messi, Ronaldo and Robben and somebody would moan.
This Lescott signing is is absolute quality and providing he stays fit I can't see anything negative about the signing. 31 years old, he has a good three or four years left at the top level.
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There is nothing in the world that would please everyone. We could sign Messi, Ronaldo and Robben and somebody would moan.
This Lescott signing is is absolute quality and providing he stays fit I can't see anything negative about the signing. 31 years old, he has a good three or four years left at the top level.
-Messi can't play the big target man role, he's never going to win headers when we boot it upfield.
- Ronaldo is too quick. He needs to slow it down and learn to think before shooting.
- Robben is suspect coming back to defend. Not good enough.
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Not sure how true that rumour can be, Man City had a game the same day which Lescott started.
It is true man city were away at villa park that day and he called in the dressing room to gee the scum balls up on his way to villa park which was the later game.
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Excellent signing, one I genuinely thought would be beyond us financially so very pleasantly surprised. With Gardner and now Lescott in it has been a solid start to our transfer business, need to continue to build on this now.
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great signing. ive no problem with frees when are proven quality players. if you look at the deal overall it makes financial sense to pay a bit more in wages rather than a fee then wages. how about Ashley cole,micah Richards on the same deals and save any cash we have for a striker and two wide players. but tom ince is a free aswel.
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I think its an excellent signing I was pleasantly surprised that we have managed to bring him in a very good piece of transfer business. A very experienced Premiership defender still has two or three good years left in him too. Good work Albion.
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Wow, was'nt expecting he would sign, but hey, what a feel good factor signing this is, if Irvine can pull of a signature signing like Lescot, then the future could be very bright for our club. This for me is a statement signing for the rest of the premiership. Jolean Lescot has spoken very highly of Alan Irvine on our website today. Maybe us fans have badly missjuged Alan. Maybe just Maybe Jeremy peace has pulled off a miracle in appointing Rob Kelly and Alan Irvine. So come on lads, lets get behind our club.
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great signing to end a week being a west brom fan , who cares played for wolves in past !!! nice to get him in before pre season hope that's 1st of a few not on dead line day . didn't see this one coming off ;)
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Wow, was'nt expecting he would sign, but hey, what a feel good factor signing this is, if Irvine can pull of a signature signing like Lescot, then the future could be very bright for our club. This for me is a statement signing for the rest of the premiership. Jolean Lescot has spoken very highly of Alan Irvine on our website today. Maybe us fans have badly missjuged Alan. Maybe just Maybe Jeremy peace has pulled off a miracle in appointing Rob Kelly and Alan Irvine. So come on lads, lets get behind our club.
Not crossed your mind that perhaps J-Lo was asked to big up Irvine due to the negative reaction over his appoinment?
Fell for that one hook, line and sinker haven't you?
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It is true man city were away at villa park that day and he called in the dressing room to gee the scum balls up on his way to villa park which was the later game.
Well that is good news. When we play them again send Joleon it to bless them! 8)
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great signing to end a week being a west brom fan , who cares played for wolves in past !!! nice to get him in before pre season hope that's 1st of a few not on dead line day . didn't see this one coming off ;)
For me the fact he used to play for Wolves is a huge bonus as you know it's killing all of them seeing him in blue and white
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great signing. ive no problem with frees when are proven quality players. if you look at the deal overall it makes financial sense to pay a bit more in wages rather than a fee then wages. how about Ashley cole,micah Richards on the same deals and save any cash we have for a striker and two wide players. but tom ince is a free aswel.
That'd bust the wage structure as well methinks. I'd have thought he might still have the legs to play abroad if he fancied. Certainly has the ability.
Thought Tom I. has gone to Inter?
Like the thought of Rodwell. Would welcome Richardson back too.
If they look to get in seasoned Premier League players who might not exactly be spring chickens but who know the game, plus bring some kids through, plus the odd inspired 'Dan Ashworth' quality players from abroad, then we'll be talking.
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Not crossed your mind that perhaps J-Lo was asked to big up Irvine due to the negative reaction over his appoinment?
Fell for that one hook, line and sinker haven't you?
There is no convincing some people.
He's signed for goodness sake - the best England qualified CB around right now and, irrespective of his WM roots, with his Bosman status and options available to him do you think he would have come here if he didn't get on with Alan Irvine ?
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For me the fact he used to play for Wolves is a huge bonus as you know it's killing all of them seeing him in blue and white
think they own us one after the ex Albion players that moved there. Bull, Thompson, Robertson, Regis, Goodman, Dennison all went to W####s having played for us and some of them dragged them back from the old 4th division. It's been 8 years since Lescott left them so they can hardly have any complaints.
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hope the scum are choking on it!
We should publically offer Bully a job as car park attendant too.
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hope the scum are choking on it!
We should publically offer Bully a job as car park attendant too.
someone might run the tw#t over :D.
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hope the scum are choking on it!
We should publically offer Bully a job as car park attendant too.
It's understandable to be a bit miffed about a former hero signing for a rival, but the real reason for all the comments on Molineux mix is sour grapes because we fish in a completely different pond to them
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It is true man city were away at villa park that day and he called in the dressing room to gee the scum balls up on his way to villa park which was the later game.
not much of a motivator is he?
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Joleon....fantastic signing........no we need at least 5 more like this..
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There is no convincing some people.
He's signed for goodness sake - the best England qualified CB around right now and, irrespective of his WM roots, with his Bosman status and options available to him do you think he would have come here if he didn't get on with Alan Irvine ?
I think his point is that whenever a signing joins the club, they always paise the current head coach. It does not mean anything.
I would howver say that all of the talk about "who will Irvine attract" is missing the point as players do not really care who the manager is when they sign. That wasn't my problem with his appointment at all. Players actually do seem to like Irvine, my issue is with his past record.
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the best England qualified CB around right now
A bold statement indeed sir.
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Not meaning to put a dampner on this however...
I am not convinced by this signing yet, bit of another sick note signing it seems to me.
When he has played 10 consequetive games I might get a bit enthusiatis.
Remember lots of fans were getting acrried away with the Anelka, Anch and sees signings last year, nothing any good came out of those.
So lets wait and see, lets see where we are by November, and JL has got quite a few games in the bag and not spent most of the time on the sick bed.
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Not meaning to put a dampner on this however...
I am not convinced by this signing yet, bit of another sick note signing it seems to me.
When he has played 10 consequetive games I might get a bit enthusiatis.
Remember lots of fans were getting acrried away with the Anelka, Anch and sees signings last year, nothing any good came out of those.
So lets wait and see, lets see where we are by November, and JL has got quite a few games in the bag and not spent most of the time on the sick bed.
Anelka was 34 years old and way past his sell by date this is a completely different signing. Lescott is a firm fans favourite at city and with good reason. You must remember the only reason they've released him is because of the world class players such as Kompany ahead of him. He is a top top player and I can't believe some are so unpleasant towards this signing.
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Brilliant signing and well done to all involved.
Experience, leadership, quality and a winner - qualities we've been lacking.
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Brilliant signing and well done to all involved.
Experience, leadership, quality and a winner - qualities we've been lacking.
Bit of an over reaction, anyway time will tell, hope he will do it for us, however I am very concerned about his fitness and will he play that many games, or are people clutching at straws and hoping he will do it for us. :-\
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Bit of an over reaction, anyway time will tell, hope he will do it for us, however I am very concerned about his fitness and will he play that many games, or are people clutching at straws and hoping he will do it for us. :-\
How in anyway shape or form is my post an over-reaction?
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How in anyway shape or form is my post an over-reaction?
IMO by calling him a 'brilliant' signing, leadership quality (is he), perhaps I was too over the top, but I think time will tell how brilliant he is, wasn't that good for England, but then who has been, just think he is ok at best.
Had too many poor players down our club I suppose, that some might describe this as brilliant signing, however lots of people were also saying that last year when we signed the likes of Anelka, the Ant, Sess etc.,
He's ok, but not brilliant, that's all, IMO. you have yours and I'm sorry if I offended you, didn't mean to.
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Him and Jonas will scare the hell out of most strikers next season. And I'm not talking about their footballing abilities. :P
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Video here of our Joleon talking to the Albion media.
Interestingly, he highlights the coaching staff - Irvine and Downing in particular as reasons why he joined the football club. Also states he's turned to Downing previously whenever he's needed advice. I know the coaching staff have come in for some criticism lately but it's good to see that they have been able to draw in a top quality centre half and I'm sure for that we're grateful.
Here is the video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=2iey7HLliLw&app=desktop
I was actually dreading the season but after seeing us sign Joleon Lescott I'm really looking forward too it.
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Video here of our Joleon talking to the Albion media.
Interestingly, he highlights the coaching staff - Irvine and Downing in particular as reasons why he joined the football club. Also states he's turned to Downing previously whenever he's needed advice. I know the coaching staff have come in for some criticism lately but it's good to see that they have been able to draw in a top quality centre half and I'm sure for that we're grateful.
Here is the video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=2iey7HLliLw&app=desktop
I was actually dreading the season but after seeing us sign Joleon Lescott I'm really looking forward too it.
I will be too as long as we sign about another 6 equally as good but if he's the only one, well that's another kettle of fish !!
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Interestingly, he highlights the coaching staff - Irvine and Downing in particular as reasons why he joined the football club. Also states he's turned to Downing previously whenever he's needed advice. I know the coaching staff have come in for some criticism lately but it's good to see that they have been able to draw in a top quality centre half and I'm sure for that we're grateful.
Very convenient for him to say that in the current circumstances, isn't it really?
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Very convenient for him to say that in the current circumstances, isn't it really?
Indeed. Our media officer obviously went to the Joseph Goebbels school of PR. You can't beat a good old bit of propaganda.
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He played 24 games last season, not really a sick note by any means.
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Not meaning to put a dampner on this however...
I am not convinced by this signing yet, bit of another sick note signing it seems to me.
When he has played 10 consequetive games I might get a bit enthusiatis.
Remember lots of fans were getting acrried away with the Anelka, Anch and sees signings last year, nothing any good came out of those.
So lets wait and see, lets see where we are by November, and JL has got quite a few games in the bag and not spent most of the time on the sick bed.
Who would you have preferred then? Lescott wanted to move from City because of not being picked, and has obviously took a pay cut to get some game time.
Remember Paul McGrath going to Villa from Man U, he was famously injury prone but with the right training he was an immense player for them.
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We could have signed Ronaldo and Messi and some would still moan that the club are just doing it to cover up the Irvine appointment.
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he might come off, he might not....but for me it signals we're serious about improving the squad.
and i think his signing will attract other good players.
if we can keep him fit he will definitely improve our defence no end
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I sometimes wonder just what some fans expect - we have just signed a centre back who was playing for England in the Euros two years ago, and we moved quickly to beat other clubs to get the deal done.
Yet people still moan about it.
Lescott had his injury problems in the past but last season played 20 odd times for Man City, and would have played more but they have to be seen to play the new foreign signings, as many millions have been spent on them, therefore they must be better than anyone already at the club,
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I am a little confused about this injury prone tag - over the last 8 premiership seasons he has only missed 84 games - no doubt some of those have been due to suspension and there have been seasons when he has not been an automatic pick in city's first team - not just last season. I'm guessing on average he has probably only missed six or so games a season due to injury.
If he plays three quarters of our games, i wouldn't call him injury prone, and think that would be a big improvement on what we have.
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Decent signing, but for a minute I was led to believe we'd signed John Terry? Must have been the bloke saying we've signed the best English qualified centre back...
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I was very surprised to find that he did indeed play 24 times for Man City last season! Got to be a good signing. If he's a sign of things to come the perhaps better players+Alan Irvine=better football/league position...
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Have to welcome a quality center half with bags of top flight experience and two winners medals in last three seasons but peace had better back this signing up with players of similar quality that's all I want
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Heard that as a childhood Vile fan he was interested in Vile and they wanted him but they weren't anywhere near what Albion were offering in wages. Oh the times they are a changin'
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Heard that as a childhood Vile fan he was interested in Vile and they wanted him but they weren't anywhere near what Albion were offering in wages. Oh the times they are a changin'
SOTV happy days!!!
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Heard that as a childhood Vile fan he was interested in Vile and they wanted him but they weren't anywhere near what Albion were offering in wages. Oh the times they are a changin'
They signed Phillip Senderos.
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Sorry guys, just don't think this is as good a signing as some fans make out, like last season , people goy carried away when we signed anelka, I just have my doubts.
Now we are also after terry hibbert, noooooooo
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Sorry guys, just don't think this is as good a signing as some fans make out, like last season , people goy carried away when we signed anelka, I just have my doubts.
Now we are also after terry hibbert, noooooooo
If I remember rightly, there was a lot of caution surrounding the signing of Anelka. I was certainly 50-50.
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If I remember rightly, there was a lot of caution surrounding the signing of Anelka. I was certainly 50-50.
I could of course be wrong?.....but doubt if those two Pros will turn out like the French idiot? He already had the form these two are footballers. Who do not seem to have the same or anywhere near rubbish as history.
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I do think there are differences between the Lescott and Anelka singing. Anelka is three years older he came here mainly for one last pay day and his last chance to play in the Premiership. Lescott is only 31 if he can merge a partnership with either Olsson or Mcauley then I can think he can be a rock for us at the back.
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Heard that as a childhood Vile fan he was interested in Vile and they wanted him but they weren't anywhere near what Albion were offering in wages. Oh the times they are a changin'
Until they get brought out and that club wakes out of its coma.
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Sorry guys, just don't think this is as good a signing as some fans make out, like last season , people goy carried away when we signed anelka, I just have my doubts.
Now we are also after terry hibbert, noooooooo
Alright WUM back in the cage. Also if you're going to moan about us being after a player with no proof, at least get his name right.
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Alright WUM back in the cage. Also if you're going to moan about us being after a player with no proof, at least get his name right.
Excuse me no need to get angry and abusive just because I am being cautious and have a different view.
After the past couple of seasons of turmoil, I am still pessimistic about Peace's approach, and am not totally convinced Joleon is the answer
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Until they get brought out and that club wakes out of its coma.
I agree Liam, because even though they have been rubbish for the last 3 or 4 years, they are still seen as a better bet when it comes to investing your money if your a multi millionaire investor compared to WBA. We have this little league mentality that we have always had, whereas Vile are even now seen as a sleeping giant............something we will never be seen as. :( even our own chairman has set limitations on us by referring to us a mid table championship....unforgiveable.
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Good signing. Anybody who disagrees needs to reassess their expectations.
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Excuse me no need to get angry and abusive just because I am being cautious and have a different view.
After the past couple of seasons of turmoil, I am still pessimistic about Peace's approach, and am not totally convinced Joleon is the answer
yes, think Psalm was referring to you calling him Terry Hibbert (didn't he die a few years ago, ex Newcastle?), as opposed to Tony Hibbert, who signed for Everton the same day as Rooney if I remember right.
Do think, in these times of 1 up front & crowded midfields, that AI could well play 3 at the back a few times in the coming season.
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Good signing. Anybody who disagrees needs to reassess their expectations.
Excellent signing.
Interesting though that the club have offered the year extension based on appearences. I assume that means that JL has to make a pre determined number of appearences before that option is activated. I suppose the club are covering theuir rear ends just in case there is an underlying injury problem.
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AI hinted at possibly playing three at the back. The team could actually be getting the complete change around it's needed for some time.
Perhaps a 3-5-2, or a 3-4-2-1. So instead of having 2 full backs, he could be going with Brunt/Richardson (if he signs) on the left and a right full back/winger, which would make the team more attacking.
Whatever happens, it better for the team to have competition for each place.
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I agree Liam, because even though they have been rubbish for the last 3 or 4 years, they are still seen as a better bet when it comes to investing your money if your a multi millionaire investor compared to WBA. We have this little league mentality that we have always had, whereas Vile are even now seen as a sleeping giant............something we will never be seen as. :( even our own chairman has set limitations on us by referring to us a mid table championship....unforgiveable.
It's Peace that has this minor club viewpoint and runs the club that way and, unfortunately over the years it has rubbed off on the fans.
I see no reason why we can't sign the Man C, Chelsea, Man U cast offs that the likes of Everton, Tottenham, Liverpool etc typically line up to buy.
Lescott is that kind of signing. An ambitious signing that signals our intent.
I see we're now linked to Rodwell and Moses too. These players we're linked with are heads and shoulders above what we have.These are similar signings to Lescott imo that demonstrates our intention to put out a good team this year.
Not sure what has convinced Peace to aim for these kind of players but I'm pretty happy about it. I would imagine it's due to Burton and, if so, I'm pleased if that is the case.
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Very pleased with this signing and a total improvement on all the signings from last season. I believe his lack of games last season were mainly down to him not being first choice. Can,t compare him to Anelka lesscot has always given 100 per cent in every game he as played where as Anelka sometime couldn't,t be bothered and looking back on his time with the Albion he only came here to pick up his wages which could have. Been used to better use
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Mirror stirring here...and poorly timed given we've just made big signing! Truly pathetic article
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/joleon-lescott-unsettled-west-brom-3881958
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Darren Lewis ....one of the worst about from one of the worst papers about , love the way the Brown signing has been thrust on the end of the article! ::)
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They claim we have signed only one player since lescott under the picture of Irvine. Pocognoli,Baird,Ideye. Can't they count at the mirror?
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They claim we have signed only one player since lescott under the picture of Irvine. Pocognoli,Baird,Ideye. Can't they count at the mirror?
Not even any quotes. They seem to have some kind of agenda against us. Joke of a paper
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Indeed. Not like we needed confirmation that the article was nothing more then rubbish CL has denied it to an Albion fan that asked the question.
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As piece of barrel scrapping silly season "reporting" this takes some beating. Total and utter nonsense and if CL has come off the fence and rubbishes it must be bad because the B'ham Mail is owned by the same Group and he is very coy about criticising the boys at the Mirror
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I'm looking at this article in a positive light. We've made assurances to Lescott about the type of player coming in, i know we may not get them all but at least it shows we're looking at the right types.
If this article came out with a day left in the transfer window id be worried, not now with 6 weeks left.
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really is a bit of garbage filler.....
zero credibility
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A total crock! Love the last bit- oh and by the way they've just spent £10m+ on an international striker -more than "main" target Rivière went for!
You've gotta laugh!
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Mirror stirring here...and poorly timed given we've just made big signing! Truly pathetic article
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/joleon-lescott-unsettled-west-brom-3881958
You have to smile though, they say we made a big signing and then in the next sentence say "it's big but it's not that big" just so they can justify the story.
Problem with this time of year is the papers have nothing to fill the sports pages up with so they resort to gossip.
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Mirror stirring here...and poorly timed given we've just made big signing! Truly pathetic article
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/joleon-lescott-unsettled-west-brom-3881958
What a load of rubbish! and so well timed to coincide with us breaking our previous highest record expenditure on one player in the transfer market?! and with the transfer window still open for several weeks.
It is clear that some of our targets have gone elsewhere, but that's virtually inevitable for every club competing for new players, you're never going to get every player on your hit list (unless you're the likes of those clubs competing in the Champions League etc, etc,).
It's like some of the reports recently slanted to indicate that AI was having a moan about missing out on some players. He was never criticising the Albion recruitment team, he was simply pointing out how problematic player recruitment can be, and not having a dig at the Albion.
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Bit concerning but I'm not taking the Mirrors word as gospel. Lescott could easily pour cold water on this via his twitter but he hasn't done so...
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If Lescott comes out and says something then i take it back but if i was the Mirror editor i probably wouldnt be too amused with Darren Lewis as he clearly isnt quite as on the pulse as he likes to think as he released this story and a few hours beforehand we had just spent £10m on a player so he looks a bit of d**k!
As the story doesnt have one comment or quote from Lescott i cant help think this is completely madeup to fill some spaces, i doubt Lescott was expecting us to be bringing Ronaldo to the Hawthorns when he signed, i am sure he knew the type of players we would want!
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If Lescott comes out and says something then i take it back but if i was the Mirror editor i probably wouldnt be too amused with Darren Lewis as he clearly isnt quite as on the pulse as he likes to think as he released this story and a few hours beforehand we had just spent £10m on a player so he looks a bit of d**k!
As the story doesnt have one comment or quote from Lescott i cant help think this is completely madeup to fill some spaces, i doubt Lescott was expecting us to be bringing Ronaldo to the Hawthorns when he signed, i am sure he knew the type of players we would want!
What time is it in America? I hopeJL is safely tucked up in bed and not tweeting about the bog roll that is the mirror. ..yet.
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'Albion are understood to have completed a club record £10million move for Dynamo Kiev striker Brown Ideye.
But his capture is in stark contrast to the £12million signing of World Cup star Enner Valencia by West Ham, another club that courted Lescott before he chose the Baggies' WTF is this guy Lewis on.
Only signed one player since Lescott arrived! go back to school and learn to count Lewis >:(
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The Valencia bit at the bottom is truly awful. He went to the World Cup so automatically he is better apparently.
By the same token you could argue Valencia has only ever played in the Ecuadorian and Mexican leagues
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Ii would take some notice in the story if we were a week away from the transfer window closing but there is a lot of time left to add to the squad. It is a poorly written piece to be fair.
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Lewis just looking to fill some column inches...only knows where we are through reading other papers...just a hack who plys his trade on talksport too...enough said...
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Lescott could be frustrated, most fans have been? Maybe he doesn't think we've done enough to sign Micah Richards (who I think he's pals with)? He wouldn't be able to give direct quotes due to gagging stuff in his contract.
Either way I hope signing Bobby has reassured all that we are serious about building a capable team. Its certainly helped reassure me.
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Lescott could be frustrated, most fans have been? Maybe he doesn't think we've done enough to sign Micah Richards (who I think he's pals with)? He wouldn't be able to give direct quotes due to gagging stuff in his contract.
Either way I hope signing Bobby has reassured all that we are serious about building a capable team. Its certainly helped reassure me.
It is 6 weeks to go before the window closes he is a player and should know how football operates. We certainly would not have made any promises about bringing in specific players because frankly we couldn't. It is as likely that he has made some throw away comment about the squad being a bit light that has been passed on second hand to Lewis who spun the rest. The Ideye deal was an inconvenient fact that should have spiked the story but instead Lewis tries to make an unfavourable comparison to Valencia which only succeeded in making him and his story look even more silly.
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Graeme Brown who works at Birmingham Post & Mail is suggesting on a Twitter that the story is true.
Would it be a major surprise if so? After all Anelka pretty much set the standard for this type of thing.
I hope there's nothing in it, but these are footballers we're talking about.
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This thread aside, Darren Lewis is one of the poorest (& I use the word lightly) sports journo's I've ever heard, either on Sky or Talksport, factually he is rarely correct but yet he gives off an air of "I'm the oracle of all things football', where in fact he's a complete buffoon.
I think Standaman summed it up perfect in the previous post.
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Graeme Brown who works at Birmingham Post & Mail is suggesting on a Twitter that the story is true.
Would it be a major surprise if so? After all Anelka pretty much set the standard for this type of thing.
I hope there's nothing in it, but these are footballers we're talking about.
Is lescott only feeling what weve been feeling since he signed though?? I mean up until yesterday it was getting desperate. Surely its only natural to think "what the hells going on" when weve all felt the same??
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This thread aside, Darren Lewis is one of the poorest (& I use the word lightly) sports journo's I've ever heard, either on Sky or Talksport, factually he is rarely correct but yet he gives off an air of "I'm the oracle of all things football', where in fact he's a complete buffoon.
I think Standaman summed it up perfect in the previous post.
I must say, I do think the comment about Albion being in stark contrast to West Ham is ridiculous, even if the Lescott story has some basis in fact.
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Is lescott only feeling what weve been feeling since he signed though?? I mean up until yesterday it was getting desperate. Surely its only natural to think "what the hells going on" when weve all felt the same??
Actually no he is a player this is a fan's forum he should understand the workings of football better. Equally with six weeks to run in the window the word "desperate" is hardly an accurate description of the club's situation.
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Is lescott only feeling what weve been feeling since he signed though?? I mean up until yesterday it was getting desperate. Surely its only natural to think "what the hells going on" when weve all felt the same??
When Lescott arrived we had already released about 11 players so he knew what he was walking into.
I think there may be an element of truth in it but not to the extent the Mirror have tried to make it.
If he is unsettled it doesn't change anything really.
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CL denied it last night I would rather pay attention to him then this Lewis guy whoever he is.
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Graeme Brown who works at Birmingham Post & Mail is suggesting on a Twitter that the story is true.
Would it be a major surprise if so? After all Anelka pretty much set the standard for this type of thing.
I hope there's nothing in it, but these are footballers we're talking about.
He's a business editor, why would he know if its true or not? More likely he's a friend of Darren Lewis so defends the story. I'd take more weight in Lepkowski denying the story.
It's particularly funny the story has been heavily edited last night with the bit about "stark contrast to Enner Valencia" added in, just because we signed Ideye which completely undermined the entire story so he's had to add that bit in. It's just terrible journalism. I doubt he'd even heard of Enner Valencia prior to the world cup, and a couple of goals against Honduras and he's suddenly an amazing striker who Ideye is inferior too? This despite the fact he moved for £2.5m in January.
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Lescott has just welcomed Ideye on Twitter and basically said he himself has been made to feel very welcome, so draw a line under this unhappiness story.
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He's a business editor, why would he know if its true or not? More likely he's a friend of Darren Lewis so defends the story. I'd take more weight in Lepkowski denying the story.
It's particularly funny the story has been heavily edited last night with the bit about "stark contrast to Enner Valencia" added in, just because we signed Ideye which completely undermined the entire story so he's had to add that bit in. It's just terrible journalism. I doubt he'd even heard of Enner Valencia prior to the world cup, and a couple of goals against Honduras and he's suddenly an amazing striker who Ideye is inferior too? This despite the fact he moved for £2.5m in January.
I can concur with that Dan
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Joleon Lescott â€@JoleonLescott · 1h
It's great to have @OfficialIdeye on board. I’m sure the lads will make him feel as welcome as they made me.
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Joleon Lescott â€@JoleonLescott · 1h
It's great to have @OfficialIdeye on board. I’m sure the lads will make him feel as welcome as they made me.
There we have it and nicely worded by Joleon, lets put these lazy lies to bed.
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Thanks to Joleon for putting this issue too bed
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Nice way of putting the rumors to bed. Not addressing them directly but showing how well he has been welcomed by his new team mates while welcoming a new exciting team mate at the same time.
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Darren Lewis ....one of the worst about from one of the worst papers about , love the way the Brown signing has been thrust on the end of the article! ::)
I totally agree the Mirror lag behind most of the Nationals and Darren Lewis comes across as one of the weakest in the area. I think he realises that too and seems to have a massive chip on his shoulder. When Harry Harris was there they were far better at getting scoops - I can't remember the last one they got right. The likes of Sun, Mail and Sky seem to be miles ahead. Sky even ahead of our local journalists more recently. Whenever Lewis is on Talk Sport I switch over.
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He's a business editor, why would he know if its true or not? More likely he's a friend of Darren Lewis so defends the story. I'd take more weight in Lepkowski denying the story.
Not 100% certain, but isn't Graeme Brown Bomber's son? Might know what he's talking about...
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Not 100% certain, but isn't Graeme Brown Bomber's son? Might know what he's talking about...
I think your right...but he is a Vile fan!!
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I think your right...but he is a Vile fan!!
If that is the case then fine player though he undoubtedly was, Bomber needs to have a word with himself.
:D.
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Yeah Bomber's son is a Villa fan.
From the way it was explained, he was one of those son's who wanted to wind up his dad so picked a different club to support and it stuck.
It does happen, my parents friends are Wolves fans and one of their sons is also Wolves. But the other is an Albion fan and did it to be different when he was younger to wind up his dad. He is now nearly 40 and is a massive albion fan.
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Not sure but thought the Bomber's lad was Paul Brown and works at the Villa
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Paul Brown is Bomber's son, not Graeme Brown.
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The story was just dragged up again on Talksport. Their slant is that Alan Irvine has "missed out" on several signings and that Hull are back in the mix.
All cobblers I imagine, but these folks do love to stir the pot.
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Even if he was unsettled he would now cost a huge fee to prise him away..
Cant see any of it being true myself
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Even if he was unsettled he would now cost a huge fee to prise him away.
I had that exact same thought. It's a can't lose situation now for Albion.
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The story was just dragged up again on Talksport. Their slant is that Alan Irvine has "missed out" on several signings and that Hull are back in the mix.
All cobblers I imagine, but these folks do love to stir the pot.
And what big name signings have Hull made, or did talksport skip over that bit of the argument?
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And what big name signings have Hull made, or did talksport skip over that bit of the argument?
Skipped it of course, never let the truth stand in the way and all that.
They also of course forgot to mention that now he's contracted to us a transfer fee would be involved.
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Skipped it of course, never let the truth stand in the way and all that.
They also of course forgot to mention that now he's contracted to us a transfer fee would be involved.
They mentioned something about Bruce being the kind of guy that puts his arm around blokes. Not really sure what that has to do with anything.
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And what big name signings have Hull made, or did talksport skip over that bit of the argument?
In fairness they signed someone who turned down Inter Milan. Judging by his tweet of welcoming Ideye Brown to the club, it's not the biggest demonstration of unhappiness by Lescott.
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Lescott doesn't know where the "unsettled" story came from
http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/west-brom-joleon-lescott-rejects-7510907
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http://www.expressandstar.com/sport/2014/07/26/lescott-dismisses-stories-of-unrest-at-west-bromwich-albion/ (http://www.expressandstar.com/sport/2014/07/26/lescott-dismisses-stories-of-unrest-at-west-bromwich-albion/)
If the Express and Dingle can't find a negative angle it must have been complete rubbish, maybe the Daily Mirror would like to issue an apology.
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Hopefully this will put the story to bed. The original story was full of holes like the club making promises about signings it is something we would n't do. At best it was a second or third hand piece of gossip spun into an article which on a slow news day the Mirror managed to print as it's lead sports story. A shoddy piece of journalism and a good example why people distrust the media
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Lescott doesn't know where the "unsettled" story came from
http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/west-brom-joleon-lescott-rejects-7510907
Rumours are done with then. Happy days.
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Injured in todays friendly, might miss opening of season.
Chris Lepkowski @chrislepkowski · 28s
Big blow for Lescott and Albion. Assuming it's his calf again, it makes him a doubt for season-opener in 2 weeks #wba
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Why do we keep on buying old crocks? We should have learned our lesson after Anelka and Kanu, but clearly haven't.
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Why do we keep on buying old crocks? We should have learned our lesson after Anelka and Kanu, but clearly haven't.
some of us did mention this when he signed and we got accused of being negative etc etc etc
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He will be back and fit before we know it.
Some players do get little niggles in pre-season.
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some of us did mention this when he signed and we got accused of being negative etc etc etc
Indeed.
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Why do we keep on buying old crocks? We should have learned our lesson after Anelka and Kanu, but clearly haven't.
He is 31..hardly an old crock!
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And as for that Pocognoli, we should never of signed him, he's far to ..........erm...............Belgian, we should know that Belgians get injured all the time ???
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Chris Lepkowski @chrislepkowski · 13m
Lescott expected to return to training next week #wba. Morrison back in training but still needs more time
Phew.. I was honestly starting to think it would be longer, hopefully he can stay fit!
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He is 31..hardly an old crock!
He'll be 32 on Saturday. Same age as Lugano at this time last season.
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He is 31..hardly an old crock!
No he's just a crock
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Know he was keeping fit whilst in Portugal in the summer so hopefully just one of those things. Don't think he has been a major 'sicknote' through his career but has had his fair share of knocks. Hope he will be back before end of August
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Ready to start Saturday i hear.No disrespect to Brunt but he should be club captain
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Ready to start Saturday i hear.No disrespect to Brunt but he should be club captain
Difficult to get messages across to the other players from a treatment table.
Hope I'm wrong but I can see him being a regular visitor to the Physio
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Difficult to get messages across to the other players from a treatment table.
Hope I'm wrong but I can see him being a regular visitor to the Physio
Brunt is just has injury prone
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Ready to start Saturday i hear.No disrespect to Brunt but he should be club captain
It's hard to bring a player in and give him captaincy straight away. Could disrupt the dressing room heavily, especially as he's going to be probably our top paid player.
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Ready to start Saturday i hear.No disrespect to Brunt but he should be club captain
We saw the problem the Dingles had when they handed an outsider in Roger Johnson the armband as soon as they signed him.
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It's hard to bring a player in and give him captaincy straight away. Could disrupt the dressing room heavily, especially as he's going to be probably our top paid player.
What disrupt Downings group.Its whats needed imo, a bloody good shake up
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It wouldn't disrupt any group Downing supposedly has, Lescott cited working with/knowing him and Kelly at Wolves as one of the main reasons he came here didn't he?
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Ready to start Saturday i hear.No disrespect to Brunt but he should be club captain
Agreed let's not be scared of hurting people's feelings that are on 30k a week plus and are grown men ffs, if Blanco is fit enough then brunt drops to the bench for me.
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Good to hear he is ready too start, looking forward to seeing him in our defence, I think we will lose some of the fear in the team and dare I say it negativety should he start.
I think confidence will hit a high having him in.
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Ready to start Saturday i hear.No disrespect to Brunt but he should be club captain
2 dingle coaches and a dingle captain?? Will it ever end. :'(
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Spys in camp!!! ;D
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camp spies ???
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Ready to start Saturday i hear.No disrespect to Brunt but he should be club captain
Is that something you're hearing from inside the club or something you've read? Irvine's comments made it appear that he was hesitant to start him, yawn.
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Would be a little surprised if they throw him straight in on Saturday, he's been injured for a while now and one behind closed doors game may not be enough to convince them he's ready especially as the tempo will be so different. I wouldn't like to rush him back unless they are 100% confident he will last the 90 minutes.
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he wont play ;)
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Not seen the game but was that the most impressive and influential debut by an Albion player in recent times?
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Not seen the game but was that the most impressive and influential debut by an Albion player in recent times?
He was extremely assured. Constantly talking to Dawson. Foster seemed much calmer. He is just a class better than we have had previously (albeit based on one game).
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One of the best debuts I have seen by an Albion player. I think Lescott will be a great influence for Dawson we just looked so much more solid with him in the team Yesterday. He could be our signing of the summer.
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SOLID performance.
Didnt put a foot wrong, won everything he needed too and showed alot of strength when going up for a battle.
Really impressive debut, could see that he was constantly talking to Dawson which seemed to settle Dawson down who also had a solid game.
Could have capped his performance off with a goal aswell.
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Bye Bye Olsson maybe
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A big maybe.What happens if Lescott is injured ?.
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After the performance of Lescott and Dawson I believe Olsson and McAuley will find it hard to get thir places back but this is a long season and they will still be players that are used regularly.
Top debut for Lescott though, class above
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So calm in defence and hopefully bring Dawsons potential out too. All the defence yesterday played well
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Superb from Lescott today, with Ollsons massive drop in form and not being on the bench I wonder if he has been carrying an injury?
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What ever we are paying him it's not enough. The difference in quality was night and day yesterday.
His positioning is fantastic.
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Superb debut from Lescott & heres to many more. :D
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Just looked a class or more above any other defender on the pitch (and I thought Poco and Dawson played had very good games)
If he plays 25 to 30 games for us this season we will stay up, and if he does that and the forward players gel we wont be far off top 10
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Absolutely immense today. Organised the defence superbly and is clearly helping Dawson with his positional play.
Could be one of our best ever signings based the impact he has made in his first two games in a Baggies shirt.
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Another solid performance. The guy oozes class and you can see hes played at the top level.
Bringing the best out of the whole back line and providing we can keep him fit I think hell be the signing of the summer.
Well played son.
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Was much better in the first half than the second half where he seemed to go through a period of "believing his own press" where he gae the ball away quite cheaply and in a couple of dangerous situations but then "got his head back on" and settled down again. Overall another solid performance and does seem to have bought Dawson out of his shell. Thought Dawson was MOTM yesterday
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Was much better in the first half than the second half where he seemed to go through a period of "believing his own press" where he gae the ball away quite cheaply and in a couple of dangerous situations but then "got his head back on" and settled down again. Overall another solid performance and does seem to have bought Dawson out of his shell. Thought Dawson was MOTM yesterday
Both were immense. Watching it live you could see the positional play was fantastic. Burnley were v poor but if they can put in a shift like that against Man U we might win that as well!!
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I think that it is amazing what difference JL makes to our defence! He is immense.
Really impressed with him!
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Was much better in the first half than the second half where he seemed to go through a period of "believing his own press" where he gae the ball away quite cheaply and in a couple of dangerous situations but then "got his head back on" and settled down again. Overall another solid performance and does seem to have bought Dawson out of his shell. Thought Dawson was MOTM yesterday
I wonder if that was fatigue setting in. I thought Lescott limped a bit towards the end which wasn't good to see.
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Does anyone think he may get an England call up again?
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I think Lescott is unfortunate that England are in the process of rebuilding for future tournaments. He is clearly better than Smalling and Jones etc but will he be around and fit in two or four years time?
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Does anyone think he may get an England call up again?
I think he's head and shoulders above Smalling and Jones as said but I hope he doesn't get called up as that will give him rest between games for us
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Does anyone think he may get an England call up again?
Hope not.
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He should have certainly gone to Brazil IMO. However we now need to be bringing the next generation through so for me he shouldn't get a call up.
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He should have certainly gone to Brazil IMO. However we now need to be bringing the next generation through so for me he shouldn't get a call up.
Never understood the 'blood the youngsters' line.
Why can't we pick a best squad on a match by match basis depending on the fitness of players. We should be picking the best players each time and not discriminating against great players just because they supposedly won't make Euro 2016.
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We should have 3 footballers in the next England squad
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Never understood the 'blood the youngsters' line.
Why can't we pick a best squad on a match by match basis depending on the fitness of players. We should be picking the best players each time and not discriminating against great players just because they supposedly won't make Euro 2016.
Personally I think we should be picking the youngsters now so by the time Euro 2016 comes around they have had plenty of game time, experience and got to know each others play. It gives us 2 years to try and build a decent side. Out of interest would you still pick Lampard and Gerrard had they not retired? Had they not I suspect RH may well have done. For me I'm glad they have gone. Clear the decks and start again.
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We should have 3 footballers in the next England squad
4 if you include James Morrison.................... well Garth Crooks said ???
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We should have 3 footballers in the next England squad
Foster, Berahino and Lescott/Dawson?
That would be some going from the Baggies.
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calm down, we have had a couple of great results and all of a sudden we have 3 of the best 20 players in England!!???
Whilst the lads have done well, we need to see consistency and top performances against the big boys before we get carried away.
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calm down, we have had a couple of great results and all of a sudden we have 3 of the best 20 players in England!!???
Whilst the lads have done well, we need to see consistency and top performances against the big boys before we get carried away.
Amazing isn't it, we were certs to go down 9 days ago.
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Foster, Berahino and Lescott/Dawson?
That would be some going from the Baggies.
Yes Foster Berahino and Lescott but the first 2 min
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Have I just heard correct.Has he said his team mates are not good enough.?
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No, he's saying that all the players, himself included, aren't performing good enough and need to improve. He's basically saying that the players need to take some of the blame and not just Irvine, which is understandable and fair dincum.
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Speaking as you would expect from a captain
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Proper captains speak. I think he has been superb ever since he got over his early season niggle that made me wonder if we would ever see him properly and now look at him. For me he must surely be the first name on the team sheet. He has come in and the gulf in class between him and team mates is evident.
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Proper captains speak. I think he has been superb ever since he got over his early season niggle that made me wonder if we would ever see him properly and now look at him. For me he must surely be the first name on the team sheet. He has come in and the gulf in class between him and team mates is evident.
McAuley was the better of the 2 centre halves today (yesterday)
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McAuley was the better of the 2 centre halves today (yesterday)
I think McAuley and Lescott could be such a solid partnership.
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I wonder what Joleon made of the Dingle Downing please leave our club chants ???
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I wonder what Joleon made of the Dingle Downing please leave our club chants ???
Seeing as he's a Villa fan, he probably couldn't care less.
On the way off the pitch he was one of the only ones who clapped the fans to be fair to him.
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well thats a relief. We will need him to keep performing all season.
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Irvines the only reason he came here, be intresting to see what happens with him when irvines sacked
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Irvines the only reason he came here, be intresting to see what happens with him when irvines sacked
You don't really believe that do you? I reckon Lescott was asked to praise AI as a favour to his new employers as his appointment had just gone down like a cup of cold sick.
I doubt the fact that Lescott is our highest earner, is from the area and has family in the area has anything to do with him signing for us.
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Irvine did play a big part believe me however it wasnt the be all and end all part of him signing.
He will carry on hes a seasoned professional.
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Seeing as he's a Villa fan, he probably couldn't care less.
On the way off the pitch he was one of the only ones who clapped the fans to be fair to him.
He stated when he joined that he still had an affinity for Wolves which he's fully entitled to have....so maybe he wouldn't be that delighted with the Downing Dingle chants.
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I'm not bothered how he feels, he's been no better than the rest last 3 games. Needs to pull his socks up and earn his money.
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I'm not bothered how he feels, he's been no better than the rest last 3 games. Needs to pull his socks up and earn his money.
Don't often agree with you but you are bang on there fella. He brought a calmness to our back 4 at first but lately his defending has been as bad as Olssons.
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I think of late his form has dipped, for one of the Man City goals he was practically walking as the players passed around him. From what they said in the papers you'd expect him to be busting a gut but i certainly didn't see that on the pitch.
I'm sure he'll get back to his best, which when he broke into the team was the best we've had for years at CB.
He's a pro and he'll deal with Irvine moving on. Happened to me in a job, started somewhere because a good friend became manager, she got the sack and i carried on and made good friends with the new manager, it's life!
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Lescott seeking showdown talks with Pulis about playing out of position. Should he play where told ? Obviously not happy has he thinks he was playing well in the centre
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Where did you see this ? Any truth in it ?
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Saw it too, in the mail (mirror, correction) if I remember correctly. Pretty extensive quotes from JL so I would assume theres some truth to it. I would hope so as well.
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Where did you see this ? Any truth in it ?
. In tomorrow's Daily Mirror
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Lescott seeking showdown talks with Pulis about playing out of position. Should he play where told ? Obviously not happy has he thinks he was playing well in the centre
Don't blame him, Pulis has got this WRONG.
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Source : http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/west-broms-joleon-lescott-seeks-5087565
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Think this could push through a new left back with Poc going out on loan
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Once again the Mirror blowing something up all out of proportion..at no point does it read showdown talks..absolute rubbish..
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Can't see anything wrong with what Lescott has said, he agreed about keeping a winning team and didn't want to say anything before the game, good pro being honest.
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Once again the Mirror blowing something up all out of proportion..at no point does it read showdown talks..absolute rubbish..
. Showdown / crisis what ever , but it's not rubbish just needs addressing
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I don't think the actuality is quite as dramatic as the headline but I also clear that Lescott is not happy out at left back. I wished he had not spoken to the papers at all but I have a certain amount of sympathy with him. It will be interesting to see how this plays out obviously if we get another full back tomorrow it solves the problem but I don't think Lescott will be easily dragooned into towing the Pulis line.
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I would imagine that Pulis had a chat with JL before playing him at left back
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it does show poco as no future under tp with baird then lescott being picked infront of him. i expect gamboa to follow him out the door aswel. im baffled!!
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As many have said, I think its more a case of trying to prove a point.
TP knows Lescott would probably 'do an ok job' but he would show vunerabilites playing left back, anyone could see that if the oppostion have pacey wide wingers, you would look to attack Lescott all day long because he doesnt have the legs anymore.
His position is centre back.
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He is never a LB, by far the best Centre Half we have and he gets played at LB....Im not only baffled with the decision to play him there I am seriously worried
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As many have said, I think its more a case of trying to prove a point.
TP knows Lescott would probably 'do an ok job' but he would show vunerabilites playing left back, anyone could see that if the oppostion have pacey wide wingers, you would look to attack Lescott all day long because he doesnt have the legs anymore.
His position is centre back.
He has history of this though, he often played 4 Centre Halves in his time at Stoke so I don't think this is point proving, but a preferred tactic. Hope I'm wrong because it is baffling.
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Now that this is in the press, I can see TP being intransigent and making a point by continuing to play Joleon at full back, clearly not best for the team, but we should be under no illusions about either TP's penchant for center halves at full back or his ego being as big as the brummie road end.
Will end in tears IMO.
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Now that this is in the press, I can see TP being intransigent and making a point by continuing to play Joleon at full back, clearly not best for the team, but we should be under no illusions about either TP's penchant for center halves at full back or his ego being as big as the brummie road end.
Will end in tears IMO.
Where is it in the press mate?
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He is never a LB, by far the best Centre Half we have and he gets played at LB....Im not only baffled with the decision to play him there I am seriously worried
Completely agree with the sentiment, the only thing I can think of is that GMac and Lesscott are slow he want's Dawson's pace to cover them. But the total lack of attacking threat from both fall backs now is a major concern.
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Completely agree with the sentiment, the only thing I can think of is that GMac and Lesscott are slow he want's Dawson's pace to cover them. But the total lack of attacking threat from both fall backs now is a major concern.
The defensive side of the game worries me as well
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The defensive side of the game worries me as well
We defended brilliant at everton and against hull without playing lescott at left back, so why change it for blues and spurs. Baird in all fairness had played at left back and did a good job.
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We defended brilliant at everton and against hull without playing lescott at left back, so why change it for blues and spurs. Baird in all fairness had played at left back and did a good job.
I was refering to us playing Lescott at LB when he should be in the middle and playing Norman at right back who, apart from the odd competent performance, looks a liability most of the time
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I was refering to us playing Lescott at LB when he should be in the middle and playing Norman at right back who, apart from the odd competent performance, looks a liability most of the time
I know what you were referring to mate, I was just pointing out that previous to the blues game we looked ok defensively, so why did he change it.
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Where is it in the press mate?
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/west-broms-joleon-lescott-seeks-5087565
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Villa want Lescott
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3181068/Aston-Villa-set-sights-luring-Joleon-Lescott-away-rivals-West-Brom-clubs-talks-1million-deal.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490
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Beat me to it by 20 seconds.
;).
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Villa want Lescott
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3181068/Aston-Villa-set-sights-luring-Joleon-Lescott-away-rivals-West-Brom-clubs-talks-1million-deal.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490
If we intend tp play him at left back its probably best that we sell him because he wont be happy there
At centre half he should be a regular
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no way should we be selling lescott 1st name on the team sheet at cb
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Are the daily mail ever right about anything though? :-*
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Even at 33, £1m not a chance I'd sell for that! I wouldn't sell anyway. I think our back four will be the same as last year, just with Chester instead of GMac
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Are the daily mail ever right about anything though? :-*
They are not too bad.
The article suggests we are after another left CB?? Seems a bit strange.
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Any offer for Lescott should be rejected unless they pay £5m or above.
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Villa have slapped in a £1m bid according to the Brum Mail.
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No sense in us entertaining any offers for him. He is 33 now so the money will never be huge and he is far too important a player for us to let go.
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Could swap him for Clarke.
Then you will have Chester, Dawson and Clarke in their mid 20s replacing Lescott, Olsson and McAuley who are the wrong side of 30?
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we should send that offer back to them along with a book of jokes to go with the one they sent us.
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Not a chance of this happening I would have thought. We might be looking at another CB/LB but Lescott is still going to be 1st choice certainly for next year. Villa had their chance to sign him last year but the "BIG CLUB" could not afford his wages.
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Tit for tat offer. £2m for Clarke......OK, £1m for Lescott
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Absolutely no way should we entertain any bids for him.
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Can understand if JL is frustrated playing at left back under Pulis, still think he should be 1st name on the team sheet
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I keep seeing all this rubbish about left back, it's happened about twice.
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Villa fan....
His pal Richards at Villa...
Don't be surprised people
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I keep seeing all this rubbish about left back, it's happened about twice.
Pulis took charge of 22 games last year and Lescott played left back in at least 7 of them. It isn't a huge amount in total, but it's easily enough to really put a player off if they really don't feel comfortable playing there.
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Out of necessity rather than want i'd imagine.
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He is a Villa fan so its possible, but I doubt if its more than putting connections together to fill the back pages.
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I keep seeing all this rubbish about left back, it's happened about twice.
More than twice.....
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Out of necessity rather than want i'd imagine.
You'd think so but Pulis saying to Sky before the United game that Lescott had played 'the majority of his career' at left back tells its own story. Pulis loves centre backs at full backs. They naturally want to tuck in and play really narrow which is exactly the shape he wants without the ball.
If Lescott doesn't play there I suspect he'll try to find another left footed centre back to play there.
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Ha Ha Ha Ha - That will never happen
£1m ;D ;D
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Out of necessity rather than want i'd imagine.
He should look to bring in someone who can play there regularly instead of using 'square pegs' or totally freezing out Poco. I suspect Brunt will play there this season but what if he gets injured or is required in midfield?
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Lescott is 33 on big wages and struggled towards the back end of last season. A deal is very possible here but we will try and get Clark involved as part of the deal. If that does happen then I see us as the winners.
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Recon he'll got for 3 mil and we'll end up with Clark.
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I think Lescott is a major part of the reason why we kept so many clean sheets last season. If anyone is to leave it should either have been McAuley or Olsson IMO.
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He should look to bring in someone who can play there regularly instead of using 'square pegs' or totally freezing out Poco. I suspect Brunt will play there this season but what if he gets injured or is required in midfield?
Then he'll use McClean, if preseason is evidence enough, then he'll use Lescott.
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I can see Jolean going. While there were times he oozed class, there were others where he made basic errors. His lack of pace is a problem too.
If the price is right, he's a disposable asset.
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Lescott is 33 on big wages and struggled towards the back end of last season. A deal is very possible here but we will try and get Clark involved as part of the deal. If that does happen then I see us as the winners.
Seriously? JL is key to our side, 1st name on the team sheet for me. Would I see Clarke in a similar vein? No.
I'm gutted & shocked that you have posted the above as you have a great knowledge of the thought processes going on at the club!
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Should not entertain the thought of selling him. Should be staying until the end of his career.
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Then he'll use McClean, if preseason is evidence enough, then he'll use Lescott.
I agree however they are still very much square pegs for me. Who do you reckon will get the RB spot in the event of an injury to Dawson? Gardner, Chester?
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I can see Jolean going. While there were times he oozed class, there were others where he made basic errors. His lack of pace is a problem too.
If the price is right, he's a disposable asset.
Yes he made the odd error, defenders do, but he was a rock last season.
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I agree however they are still very much square pegs for me. Who do you reckon will get the RB spot in the event of an injury to Dawson? Gardner, Chester?
Chester, with O'Neil being a patch if required like Baird was
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We will end up with 6 centre backs and no full backs four will be starters and two will provide cover. Or Brunt will stay at left back and he will have 3 Centre Backs to cover the first choice back 4. In that context i.e. you can never have too many Centre Halves Lescott is not for sale.
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Lescott is 33 on big wages and struggled towards the back end of last season. A deal is very possible here but we will try and get Clark involved as part of the deal. If that does happen then I see us as the winners.
I have seen Clark play - its a big NO from me.
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We will end up with 6 centre backs and no full backs four will be starters and two will provide cover. Or Brunt will stay at left back and he will have 3 Centre Backs to cover the first choice back 4. In that context i.e. you can never have too many Centre Halves Lescott is not for sale.
Yes you can if there name is Lugano !
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Yes you can if there name is Lugano !
Lugano a centre half ??? I thought he was a statue in stripes !
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Can't see Lescott moving, nor Clarke either to be honest.
Lescott will be 34 next season, he's settled with us as a club and will possibly even retire after next season, so I can't see why he'd opt for Villa. Besides, I can't see us selling him for anything less than £5 million, purely because he'll be of massive importance to us next year, in the same way Clarke will be for us.
I think more than anything it's saber rattling from the Villa in response to our derisory offer of £2 million for Clarke, both bids are no where near the mark and it's ultimately just pointless mind games.
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I think this WILL happen 😎
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NO way should we sell Lescott despite his age - he will instrumental again next season like the last one..........he brings a touch of class to the backline that's been missing for years PLUS, like Fletcher. HE'S A WINNER ! Never underestimate having proven winners in you side.
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Nathan Baker has just signed a new 4 year deal with Villa. He was supposed to be joining Burnley. It makes me wonder if Villa have tied him down to a new deal then they may expecting Clark to leave. A swap between lescott and Clark is definitely a viable option.
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Nathan Baker has just signed a new 4 year deal with Villa. He was supposed to be joining Burnley. It makes me wonder if Villa have tied him down to a new deal then they may expecting Clark to leave. A swap between lescott and Clark is definitely a viable option.
no way Clark is a damn right awful player, I have played against him, we need to keep lescott he is our key defender it will weaken us and strengthen them nauses down the road
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Lescott is a steadying style of player in our back 4.
Can't see him leaving.
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Is Lescott Injured? Not in tonight's squad at all...
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To me its just Sherwood launching one back for the Clark bids from Pulis , I like the way the article says in talks then the next sentence says Pulis has rejected it and has no intention of selling!
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I'd swap lescott for clark, we need youth they need experience. Makes sense.
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Lescott is injured tonight gentlemen you can rest easy :P
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I'd swap lescott for clark, we need youth they need experience. Makes sense.
please tell me you are joking?
lescott for clark????? ???
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Lescott will do another season or 2. We should build a youthful defence around him. His experience is vital. With Dawson here and adding Chester it's a good start.
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Lescott will do another season or 2. We should build a youthful defence around him. His experience is vital. With Dawson here and adding Chester it's a good start.
My problem with that is TP using him at Left Back. Joleon has stated he doesn't like it and I have to agree that it seems a weirdly poor choice of personnel placement.
If we get a first choice LB, or Brunt is just used as first choice LB and it's JL and Chester in the centre, then that's great. Get JL to sign a new 2 year contract, hold him for both and we're all very happy.
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not In team tonight or on bench??????????
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Lescott 'carrying a knock' according Chris Lepkowski.
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not In team tonight or on bench??????????
Apparently his injured
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Lescott carrying a 'knock' according Chris Lepkowski.
The timing of this 'knock' makes it very suspicious. Hope it's the truth that he is just being'nursed' and we are not protecting him in the hopes of striking a deal with the Vilers.
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I'd swap lescott for clark, we need youth they need experience. Makes sense.
You're kidding, right?
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wish I had fiver for every time I heard that one one of the most popular excuse :P
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The timing of this 'knock' makes it very suspicious. Hope it's the truth that he is just being'nursed' and we are not protecting him in the hopes of striking a deal with the Vilers.
I agree, guess its a wait and see.
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I'm sure we'll see some outgoings to balance the books.
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I'm sure we'll see some outgoings to balance the books.
There has already been some outgoings earlier in window its bodies that we actually need
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Surely he would rather stay with a big side ;D
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If he even hints he wants to go, just let him. We can replace him.
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Apologies for only reading the first page but I saw people saying get Clark as maybe part of an exchange?? The bloke isn't fit to lace lescotts boots. There is no way we should be letting our best defender go to them lot and especially not in anyway a swap with Clarke
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Tell the Vilers to EFF OFF..................Simple >:(
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Tell the Vilers to EFF OFF..................Simple >:(
100% even if he wanted to go there I wouldn't let him, you can't strengthen one of our main rivals (premier league rival) with our BEST defender end of
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Tell the Vilers to EFF OFF..................Simple >:(
dim tim trying to unsettle me thinks
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Should not be sold at any price.
Not only is he a great defender and very consistent performer, his experience in guiding those around him is invaluable. It was evident on occasions last year earlier on in the season where he was constantly guiding Dawson and Gardner through matches. That did tail off when the more experienced Yacob and McAuley came into the side. He will still be prove invaluable to the likes of Chester and Dawson however, and Chris Brunt if we continue operating with him at left back.
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Should not be sold at any price.
Not only is he a great defender and very consistent performer, his experience in guiding those around him is invaluable. It was evident on occasions last year earlier on in the season where he was constantly guiding Dawson and Gardner through matches. That did tail off when the more experienced Yacob and McAuley came into the side. He will still be prove invaluable to the likes of Chester and Dawson however, and Chris Brunt if we continue operating with him at left back.
That is a great post. We need him as our defense is re-built.
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Villa fan mate of mine has just had a call saying Lescott having medical today!
He doesn't claim to be ITK, but not usually a wind up merchant.
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Villa fan mate of mine has just had a call saying Lescott having medical today!
He doesn't claim to be ITK, but not usually a wind up merchant.
A frank admission and a truly terrible burden to bear alone.
Have you considered counselling?
Try the link below.
:) ;).
http://www.nhs.uk/Conditions/Counselling/Pages/Introduction.aspx (http://www.nhs.uk/Conditions/Counselling/Pages/Introduction.aspx)
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I know this is from the dubious HITC web site but they were suggestin earlier we were offering Lescot a new contract
Source: http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2015/08/05/report-joleon-lescott-to-sign-new-contract-to-stay-at-west-brom/?
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A frank admission and a truly terrible burden to bear alone.
Have you considered counselling?
Try the link below.
:) ;).
http://www.nhs.uk/Conditions/Counselling/Pages/Introduction.aspx (http://www.nhs.uk/Conditions/Counselling/Pages/Introduction.aspx)
Sorry, by mate, I obviously meant 'smug, we won the European Cup in 1982, but can't accept we are no longer a big club, bloke I'm forced to work with'
And he's one of the good ones to be fair. :D
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Sorry, by mate, I obviously meant 'smug, we won the European Cup in 1982, but can't accept we are no longer a big club, bloke I'm forced to work with'
And he's one of the good ones to be fair. :D
Fair play, I refer to them as associates or 'some bloke down the pub'.
Oh, and other terms with may be considered slightly offensive in their industrial/zoological nature of course.
;D.
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He has 1 year left plus a years option I think
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He has 1 year left plus a years option I think
You are right it is a performance related option for the further year so probably dependent on how many appearances he makes.
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Couple of reports saying Villa are about to come back in for him.
2m now the fee doing the rounds
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Mirror reporting he is ready to sign the contract extension with us.
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Good bloke for us, but if he goes...So what?
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We have a match on Monday . Lescott one of our main players . Absolute no brainier
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cant understand any of the posts claiming their not fussed if he stays. Lescott is class, one of the best defenders in the club and with so much experience to help the younger players around him.
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This story has no legs any fee the Villa are prepared to pay is inconsequential compared to the hole Lescott would leave in our defence. It is just not going to happen.
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Keep seeing contradictory things on twitter and here. Some reports saying he's about to sign a new contract, some saying Villa are preparing a second bid (there was a first?!). I think we should be signing him up to an additional year without doubt!
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Keep seeing contradictory things on twitter and here. Some reports saying he's about to sign a new contract, some saying Villa are preparing a second bid (there was a first?!). I think we should be signing him up to an additional year without doubt!
What is contradictory about that? They both could be true & have nothing to do with each other
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This story has no legs any fee the Villa are prepared to pay is inconsequential compared to the hole Lescott would leave in our defence. It is just not going to happen.
Neither has Lescott.
I remember he made Bobby Zamora look like Usain Bolt.
That said I think we should hold onto him unless an adequate (younger and faster) replacement is available
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What is contradictory about that? They both could be true & have nothing to do with each other
I think I just used the wrong word. I should've said 'conflicting.' Although I see what you mean. Both things could be true and happen.
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I would be happy to let Lescott go if we could sign Van Dijek from Celtic, who apparently is itching to move to the Premiership. I have not seen him play but by all accounts he is an outstanding centre back. Lescott did a good job for us last season but he is nearing his sell by date.
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Neither has Lescott.
I remember he made Bobby Zamora look like Usain Bolt.
That said I think we should hold onto him unless an adequate (younger and faster) replacement is available
Isn't a perfect defender, but last season it was our defence (not just the back four and keeper mind) that kept us safe relatively comfortably. We had I think about the 3rd highest number of clean-sheets and only gained around 5 points from matches where we didn't keep a clean-sheet.
Personally, would like us to maintain the solid base we have for now and look to strengthen it with likes of chester and co... before moving a pivotal player like Lescott on.
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Isn't a perfect defender, but last season it was our defence (not just the back four and keeper mind) that kept us safe relatively comfortably. We had I think about the 3rd highest number of clean-sheets and only gained around 5 points from matches where we didn't keep a clean-sheet.
Personally, would like us to maintain the solid base we have for now and look to strengthen it with likes of chester and co... before moving a pivotal player like Lescott on.
I think we were 2nd only to Chelsea if I remember correctly.
But I agree, the fact some people are happy to move on our best defender is crazy.
He was head and shoulder above other players at times last year, fantastic signing.
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Some people feel that a lack of pace exposes a defender. This is true to degree and genuinely quick player will on occasion get round a slow defender.
However, for a centre back, recognising where a threat is and being in the right position to snuff it out is far more important than just pace. Lescott has never been that quick, so like Sheringham or Scholes has always relied on positional sense and reading of the game.
Overall his organisation of his own position and that of the whole back four contributed far more to our season than the couple of times he was caught out cost.
He is getting to the end of his career and from the recruitment that is going on, the cub look like they know this and are "succession planning", but allowing him to leave now would be utterly foolhardy.
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Some people feel that a lack of pace exposes a defender. This is true to degree and genuinely quick player will on occasion get round a slow defender.
However, for a centre back, recognising where a threat is and being in the right position to snuff it out is far more important than just pace. Lescott has never been that quick, so like Sheringham or Scholes has always relied on positional sense and reading of the game.
Overall his organisation of his own position and that of the whole back four contributed far more to our season than the couple of times he was caught out cost.
He is getting to the end of his career and from the recruitment that is going on, the cub look like they know this and are "succession planning", but allowing him to leave now would be utterly foolhardy.
Great Post .. Spot On
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I would be happy to let Lescott go if we could sign Van Dijek from Celtic, who apparently is itching to move to the Premiership. I have not seen him play but by all accounts he is an outstanding centre back. Lescott did a good job for us last season but he is nearing his sell by date.
From the bits that I have seen he is a very good player, all be it in the Scottish Prem'. Big lad, very composed on the ball with good ditribution. Likes to bring it out from the back and run at the opposition, something which may not sit too well with TP.
Good centre half, but personally think he may actually be better suited to central midfield as his style of play reminds me of Patrick Viera. He has expressed a desire to leave Celtic, but I think he will be looking for a move to a team higher up in the food chain than Albion, be it in England or on the continent.
Ed: as for Joleon I would be looking to extend his contract.
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Some people feel that a lack of pace exposes a defender. This is true to degree and genuinely quick player will on occasion get round a slow defender.
However, for a centre back, recognising where a threat is and being in the right position to snuff it out is far more important than just pace. Lescott has never been that quick, so like Sheringham or Scholes has always relied on positional sense and reading of the game.
Overall his organisation of his own position and that of the whole back four contributed far more to our season than the couple of times he was caught out cost.
He is getting to the end of his career and from the recruitment that is going on, the cub look like they know this and are "succession planning", but allowing him to leave now would be utterly foolhardy.
It would only be fool hardy if we don't have a suitable replacement, and if TP keeps moving him to left back that will only expose his shortcomings even more.
Great player in his day but sadly his carear is in its twilight
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Oh, I agree he needs to be played in the centre. He obviously doesn't like and isn't used to being Left-back.
I think the Pulis knows that though and I don't think we'll see him being played there this season (I hope not anyway). It's obvious that Pulis has no love for genuine wide defenders, his belief is in a compact back four and heading away the cross rather than stopping people getting down the sides. However, I think that we'll see a lot more of Brunt used in that role, where he was pretty good last year.
If we're not going to use him in the right place then despite what Lescott adds from an experience point of view, I would take £2 million, just not from the Vile.
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If we're not going to use him in the right place then despite what Lescott adds from an experience point of view, I would take £2 million, just not from the Vile.
Spot on! Lescott playing at CB is a definate keeper but it TP insists on using him at LB then sell sell sell
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Got it on good authority Lescott is 100% leaving to join Villa.
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Going downhill to Witton Wanderers.
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Anywhere but there please joleon!!
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Think this story has legs to it to be honest, Lescott is a high earner, and with Rondon potential coming on a high wage, can see someone leaving to balance the books. Would also allow us to get a younger defender in.
Please note however, I hope he stays. If he doesn't play Monday I would assume he's off.
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Got it on good authority Lescott is 100% leaving to join Villa.
Hope you're wrong mate! Lescott sured us up last year massively. Would be a huge blow.
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I hope he stays too, maybe a coaching role added into the situation.
The same guy told me Gnabry would sign by friday and he has. OldburyWBA knows i got good sources at the club but i have to wait to let news out.
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I hope he stays too, maybe a coaching role added into the situation.
The same guy told me Gnabry would sign by friday and he has. OldburyWBA knows i got good sources at the club but i have to wait to let news out.
If, and it's a big if, the Rondon and Phillips rumours are true then I will be waiting for a sting in the tail. As a West Brom fan this is programmed into me!
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Lets remember that we have Pulis as manager. If he thinks our defence is ok without Lescott in it, I trust him to either have a replacement or him to trust one of our players step in already.
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Lets remember that we have Pulis as manager. If he thinks our defence is ok without Lescott in it, I trust him to either have a replacement or him to trust one of our players step in already.
Me too, but we would defiantly need to replace him.
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Wonder if he sees Chester as his replacement? Keeping Dawson at right back and having Chester replace lescott?
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Wonder if he sees Chester as his replacement? Keeping Dawson at right back and having Chester replace lescott?
At first I thought this an odd suggestion but could it be that Pulis bought Chester then had a look to make sure he was ready, and now is willing to sell Lescott as he sees Chester as a straight replacement ?
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I wouldn't have thought that we are desperate for the amount of funds that would be come available from the sale of Lescott.
The only reason I could see him going would be to free up a big wage with a view to be bringing in another big earner
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I really hope this isn't true
Adds real quality and experience at the back
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Signed a new contract.
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Signed a new contract.
That would be great news
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Signed a new contract.
Really? Today gets better 8)
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who is really ITK. He's off, he's signed a new contract ?? Does anyone know what's happening, I really don't think so, only those who handle our transfers / contracts
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who is really ITK. He's off, he's signed a new contract ?? Does anyone know what's happening, I really don't think so, only those who handle our transfers / contracts
Baggie79 is very reliable, if he says he signed new deal I'd be inclined to believe him
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Baggie79 is very reliable, if he says he signed new deal I'd be inclined to believe him
hear hear.
Thanks Baggie79 that's great news.
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If we were offered 2m plus okore i'd take it.
Think okore has potential if he can stay injury free.
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If we were offered 2m plus okore i'd take it.
Think okore has potential if he can stay injury free.
No chance of them offering that. Anyway I believe baggie79 if he says he has signed a new contract then he has signed a new contract.
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TP was very evasive this afternoon, we will see but as reported this week Albion may excercise the option of taking the extra year on his contract
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Baggie79 would have some serious egg on his face if he was wrong with Lescott and Rondon. He keeps info short sharp and to the point. We'll see in the next 48 hours probably, but i think he will be proved correct, just can't get too excited until its official
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Will be very interesting to see how things develop but nothing more than what's in the press really. Read the story and have a calculated guess
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I'm sure the lescott extra year was reported on sky sports newd oe talksport the other day and rondon was discussed on radio wum tonight.
I don't what insider info people claim to know on here but it is usually rubbush spread to get kudos, like the new owners getting the stewards to sign no employment contracts.
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Good post Baggieblood I have yet to see anything that has been a real revelation
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http://www.skysports.com/share/9940394
West Brom rejected an approach from Aston Villa for Joleon Lescott last week but Pulis did not rule out the central defender – who has one year left on his contract – leaving the club.
"The situation is Joleon has trained with us today and hopefully he will train with us tomorrow and the next day and be involved in the Man City game," Pulis said.
When asked if Lescott would leave, Pulis replied: "Never say never to anything in football – I have told you that before – but as far as I am concerned, he has trained well today and we are looking forward to him being in the team and in the squad.
"He has missed the last couple of games for us but we are hoping he will be fit enough to be in the squad on Monday."
Just seen this, to me that doesnt seem positive.
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The amount of bull i've heard regards the mighty Albion is shocking.
There was some guy a year or 2 ago who was adamant that mcdonalds were going to to the shrine's matchday catering and he'd seen them taking mcdonalds signs etc into the ground.
Why bull, i just don't see the point of it.
But, us fans try to find a snippet od hope from wherever it comes and give the rubbish credence.
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I'm sure the lescott extra year was reported on sky sports newd oe talksport the other day and rondon was discussed on radio wum tonight.
I don't what insider info people claim to know on here but it is usually rubbush spread to get kudos, like the new owners getting the stewards to sign no employment contracts.
As you are a fairly new member then I understand how you feel regarding insider info but there are some on here who have been very much on the ball with info and I know a couple personally and so can vouch for them and that their info comes from very reliable sources. I also know that things change very quickly and so info they give can be subject to change at any time. This doesn't mean they have no idea what they are talking about, it means things change.
At least two players I am aware of have been sat in the offices and a single phone call or contract clause/ change has blown the deal and the player has gone, not much anyone can do about that.
There will no doubt be some that see something somewhere else and post it thinking its gospel and its not but don't write all off.
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Signed a new contract.
Are you sure baggie79? Pulis quotes don't seem to positive.
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People attributing quotes to Pulis as being evidence he's on his way, obviously don't listen to Pulis much.
Every time he is asked about a player leaving, he always says that they are at the club and he hopes they will remain so but he has no control over these things and things change in football. It's funny that is considered as proof that Lescott is going but not proof that Berahino is going. Pulis said exactly the same about him.
I think Lescott has a slight injury and that's why there's a question mark over his involvement on Monday and why there's a "hopefully" in Pulis' answer.
Nothing to see here, move along.
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Are you sure baggie79? Pulis quotes don't seem to positive.
just took it that he was injured and missed a few training sessions from his quote, didn't see anything negative in it to be honest.
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Perhaps Tone was just winding the journo's up
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Feed the press little glimmers of a story to keep them busy while quietly going about our other deals unnoticed me thinks
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Anyone heard anything on this?
To me this is a major concern, I think JL is pivotal to our season and should only be allowed to leave if another TOP class C-H is signed.
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Anyone heard anything on this?
To me this is a major concern, I think JL is pivotal to our season and should only be allowed to leave if another TOP class C-H is signed.
Baggie79 said he'd signed a new contract the other day
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Baggie79 said he'd signed a new contract the other day
erm, no confirmation anywhere, I thought club would highlight this as they did with Gmac, and TP comments (I didn't hear them, so 2nd hand) Its all a bit concerning.
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may wait until after tonight's game mate to announce it and TP plays the media like a fiddle to be fair
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may wait until after tonight's game mate to announce it and TP plays the media like a fiddle to be fair
I hope so !
3 points, Rondon and JL all in one night - Carlsberg anyone?
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Have to wonder if the Lescott to Villa rumours will start again next week?
He was miles away from Kompany before the corner was taken. The commentator in the 2nd half said it was Dawson who was pushing the defensive line up the pitch. You would expect that to be Lescott with him being the experienced man at the back.
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Have to wonder if the Lescott to Villa rumours will start again next week?
He was miles away from Kompany before the corner was taken. The commentator in the 2nd half said it was Dawson who was pushing the defensive line up the pitch. You would expect that to be Lescott with him being the experienced man at the back.
Looking for a last pay off!?
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I thought Lescott was good overall, he tried to get to Kompany, but was it actually his job, not sure it was.
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Someone ITK on here said he had signed a new contract. Saw him after the match with his hand over his mouth chatting away to one of the city players who was doing the same. Will be glad when 1st sept comes and see what we have. Lots more to come and go
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I thought Lescott was good overall, he tried to get to Kompany, but was it actually his job, not sure it was.
Kompany was definitely his man but he lost him because Kompany drifted into the area that Mozza was defending by the near post.
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Kompany was definitely his man but he lost him because Kompany drifted into the area that Mozza was defending by the near post.
Errr no, actually Kompany attacked the near post with Lescott flailing in his slipstream, he momentarily lost his man and had no chance of getting to the ball first.
That and a perfectly executed ball, then a deflected header off his own shoulder, saw the ball fly into the opposite corner.
In no way could anyone defending the near-post be culpable, Kompany was in full flow and gained a foot with his leap alone.
Lescott at fault.
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Baggie79 are you sure he has signed a new deal? Would of thought we would of heard about it by now.
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Someone ITK on here said he had signed a new contract. Saw him after the match with his hand over his mouth chatting away to one of the city players who was doing the same. Will be glad when 1st sept comes and see what we have. Lots more to come and go
Yeah, that was Nasri. Looked really odd TBH, you can have that chat in the tunnel if you don't want the camera to see what you're saying.
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Errr no, actually Kompany attacked the near post with Lescott flailing in his slipstream, he momentarily lost his man and had no chance of getting to the ball first.
That and a perfectly executed ball, then a deflected header off his own shoulder, saw the ball fly into the opposite corner.
In no way could anyone defending the near-post be culpable, Kompany was in full flow and gained a foot with his leap alone.
Lescott at fault.
I said Lescott was at fault, go back and read my post again.
I never said Mozza was at fault :-\
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I said Lescott was at fault, go back and read my post again.
I never said Mozza was at fault :-\
Mozza was at fault for first. He allowed toure to get wrong side twice.
Edit: sorry, meant the second.
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Mozza was at fault for first. He allowed toure to get wrong side twice.
Having watched the goals online this morning, Mozza did not cover himself in glory for either of the first two goals.
Didn't close space down for the first and he really should have got a challenge in for the second.
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Having watched the goals online this morning, Mozza did not cover himself in glory for either of the first two goals.
Didn't close space down for the first and he really should have got a challenge in for the second.
Said it at the game, if Yacob had been on the pitch those first two goals might not have come about.
They came from areas normally occupied by Claudio
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Mozza was at fault for first. He allowed toure to get wrong side twice.
Edit: sorry, meant the second.
That is true, we were talking about Kompany's header though, which was Lescott's fault.
Said it at the game, if Yacob had been on the pitch those first two goals might not have come about.
They came from areas normally occupied by Claudio
Yep, also called it at the time as well.
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Kompany goal, yes Lescott was marking him initially but to get through the crowd all the way to the front post from being goal side of him I would say is impossible.
Kompany had the desire to get there our nearest player had less, Citeh are full of champions and showed how there skill and most of all desire to win brings results.
Lescott in my opinion can not be blamed and the reason why I think he might go is he knows that desire and sees none around him most of the time.
Lescott is a winner, we need 7 or 8 more with that desire, give that extra and stop being survivors.
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He didn't get through a crowd, it was Lescott's man pure and simple.
he ran past players yes but they were marking their own men.
Lescott at fault for that goal all day long
Class centre half though and happy to have him here
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He aint mine so its not my fault.
How many time does he cover the left back and intercepts or clears out the danger, as many times as he can.
So Kompany loses him steels that yard someone else should then step up, if he out jumped Lescott his fault but with that run in a crowded area its the teams fault.
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sorry to keep asking the same question,
has anyone seen confirmation that JL has signed a new contract?
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There's nothing on the Official Site, so take that how you will
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Not saying he has actually signed one but didn't Morrison actually sign a new deal a couple of months before it was announced
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Not saying he has actually signed one but didn't Morrison actually sign a new deal a couple of months before it was announced
Ah! i wasn't aware of that, lets hope its all done, dusted and filed away !
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I believe they have just taken up the option on him early, I don't think it will even be announced until towards the end of the season.
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Also just a personal opinion but I think if we are offered £2m+ I think he will be allowed to leave, especially with the wages he is on and his advanced age.
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At times he saved us last season.
He didn't do anything when we lost to his favourite team...The vile.
Take that as you will.
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Also just a personal opinion but I think if we are offered £2m+ I think he will be allowed to leave, especially with the wages he is on and his advanced age.
I support that theory too, provided we have a replacement either signed or lined up.
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At times he saved us last season.
He didn't do anything when we lost to his favourite team...The vile.
Take that as you will.
and he played really well when we beat his favourite team 1-0.
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I support that theory too, provided we have a replacement either signed or lined up.
I can see him going along with one or two more that might shock us. Just hope Pulis signs the right players.
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Stoke also interested apparently
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/tottenham-hotspur/11805891/West-Brom-manager-Tony-Pulis-faces-anxious-fortnight-as-Spurs-prepare-bid-for-Saido-Berahino.html
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Stoke also interested apparently
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/tottenham-hotspur/11805891/West-Brom-manager-Tony-Pulis-faces-anxious-fortnight-as-Spurs-prepare-bid-for-Saido-Berahino.html
Entertaining draw!!?? ::)
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I dont think Pulis and Lescott get on. I think playing him at LB has killed it for Joleon. In his twilight years I think he thought he would see out his career in the position that he is outstanding in.
I personally would hate to see him go
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It will cost us a substantial amount of money to replace Lescott with someone of equal or slightly better ability. Other than full back positions I see no need for any changes at CH. Central midfield is our biggest problem area IMO.
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Lescott set to sign new West Brom deal
http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2015/08/17/lescott-set-to-sign-new-west-brom-deal/
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I dont think Pulis and Lescott get on. I think playing him at LB has killed it for Joleon. In his twilight years I think he thought he would see out his career in the position that he is outstanding in.
I personally would hate to see him go
An alternative view could be that there is shared respect and trust between the two.
Pulis respects Lescott's ability take on both CB and LB positions and Lescott trusts Pulis judgement.
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An alternative view could be that there is shared respect and trust between the two.
Pulis respects Lescott's ability take on both CB and LB positions and Lescott trusts Pulis judgement.
Except that Lescott always looks uncomfortable and ineffective at left-back, so doesn't really have much ability in that position. He in no way should be regarded as a backup left-back.
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I would imagine that Lescott is not fully fit at the moment as he was injured prior to the start of the season. Could this be the reason for his omission on Saturday? Having played on the Monday maybe Pulis thought 2 games in a short space of time was too much.
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Steve Madeley tweeted on Saturday that Pulis isn't all that convinced by Lescott.
That's the England international, Premier League winning Joleon Lescott, right?
If that is the case, then I think that says more about Pulis than it does about Lescott.
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I would imagine that Lescott is not fully fit at the moment as he was injured prior to the start of the season. Could this be the reason for his omission on Saturday? Having played on the Monday maybe Pulis thought 2 games in a short space of time was too much.
More likely to be that he allowed Kompany to waltz into the area on Monday night and deliver the dagger.
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To me, the legs are going and this season could be one too far for him. He's certainly lost pace and if Villa are prepared to offer some readies then I'd bite their hand off.
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To me, the legs are going and this season could be one too far for him. He's certainly lost pace and if Villa are prepared to offer some readies then I'd bite their hand off.
Olsson and McAuley are older and slower, do you want them pensioned off too?
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Olsson and McAuley are older and slower, do you want them pensioned off too?
Isn't that the fact of it? Our experienced central defenders are all too bloody slow unless we defend very deep. We can't contain the middle of the park because we have no sodding pace there either.
Basically, like Pulis or not, we have to sit back and invite teams on to us because we aren't fast enough to press any further up the pitch.
Ollie is two years past his sell by and Albion need to be ruthless and get shot. Joleon is also an increasing liability, and as daft as it might seem if someone, anyone, including Villa will pay money for him then he needs to move on too.
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I do really like Lescott but I'd also argue he's somewhat over-rated by our fans. Obviously I would be saddened to see him go as he will be very important for us, but he also makes mistakes and isn't as perfect as some make out.
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I do really like Lescott but I'd also argue he's somewhat over-rated by our fans. Obviously I would be saddened to see him go as he will be very important for us, but he also makes mistakes and isn't as perfect as some make out.
JL is not perfect but the best we have had for many years.
Paradoxically, If TP is trying to bring in pace at the back and thus enabling us to set up with the midfield actually playing in midfield then it makes sense to clear out Olsson, McCauley and lescott and as JL is the only one we would get decent cash for.............
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Olsson and McAuley are older and slower, do you want them pensioned off too?
McAuley should have been released IMO to make way for younger blood.
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I do really like Lescott but I'd also argue he's somewhat over-rated by our fans. Obviously I would be saddened to see him go as he will be very important for us, but he also makes mistakes and isn't as perfect as some make out.
I agree with this, JL was good in his day but that day is sadly over.
I'd also argue that Fletcher also falls into that camp. Best part of his game is organising, other than that he's too slow on the ball and couldn't pass wind.
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I agree with this, JL was good in his day but that day is sadly over.
I'd also argue that Fletcher also falls into that camp. Best part of his game is organising, other than that he's too slow on the ball and couldn't pass wind.
The big thing about Lescott and Fletcher is they are known Winners and that category is badly missing in our in squad.
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The big thing about Lescott and Fletcher is they are known Winners and that category is badly missing in our in squad.
All well and good but if they are not up to the jobs that they're on the pitch to do I am not sure how their former glories help us. Of the two Lescott is the lesser concern because his ability to read the game to some extent compensates for his lack of mobility.
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I don't think Lescott is that bad really. I think he has been a good signing and provides the necessary leadership and experience you would expect from someone of his standard. In addition, he is a very good footballer too. If there is a centre back I'd rather see leave the club then it would be Jonas Olsson to be honest. Joleon Lescott played a huge part in a back four that kept 15 clean sheets last season - that suggests to me we should be turning our worries elsewhere.
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Player of the season by a distance last year (as voted). Why on earth would we want to get rid? Baffling.
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Player of the season by a distance last year (as voted). Why on earth would we want to get rid? Baffling.
Because Tone doesn't like him. His high level of performance is irrelevant.
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Definately leaving. Big mistake ???
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Player of the season by a distance last year (as voted). Why on earth would we want to get rid? Baffling.
Agreed.
Unbelieveable.
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Thought twice about posting this as some people that claim to know things are often slaughtered but I will write it anyway. He does want to go and let WBA know that once Villa bid. You don't have to believe me and that's fine but I can assure you it's true. WBA said no initially but not sure where it is now with contract extension being discussed.
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Thought twice about posting this as some people that claim to know things are often slaughtered but I will write it anyway. He does want to go and let WBA know that once Villa bid. You don't have to believe me and that's fine but I can assure you it's true. WBA said no initially but not sure where it is now with contract extension being discussed.
Sounds about right mate
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The way of thinking with lescott from the clubs point of view is that he is 33 years old and isn't getting any younger. He is on a massive earner for someone of his age with a club such as us and we could still get a small fee for him. I personally would much rather of released G Mac in the summer and kept Lescott. As Steve Madely said over the weekend Pulis isn't so sure regarding Lescott. I trust Pulis judgement on this one myself even though I do find it odd and have a preference as to who I would get rid of but Lescott clearly seems the more likely of all the defenders to leave at this stage.
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The way of thinking with lescott from the clubs point of view is that he is 33 years old and isn't getting any younger. He is on a massive earner for someone of his age with a club such as us and we could still get a small fee for him. I personally would much rather of released G Mac in the summer and kept Lescott. As Steve Madely said over the weekend Pulis isn't so sure regarding Lescott. I trust Pulis judgement on this one myself even though I do find it odd and have a preference as to who I would get rid of but Lescott clearly seems the more likely of all the defenders to leave at this stage.
Maybe Pulis has noticed that Lescott has lost even more pace on top of the pace he lacked last year
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Maybe Pulis has noticed that Lescott has lost even more pace on top of the pace he lacked last year
Very very likely mate I'd say that's a given.
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Player of the season by a distance last year (as voted). Why on earth would we want to get rid? Baffling.
Was an outrageous choice though: Berahino was our best player by miles. I won't cry over Lescott, has been a good player in his day and was decent for a few matches last season. But he wasn't streets ahead of the other centre backs especially after Pulis came in.
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Was an outrageous choice though: Berahino was our best player by miles. I won't cry over Lescott, has been a good player in his day and was decent for a few matches last season. But he wasn't streets ahead of the other centre backs especially after Pulis came in.
I totally agree with this. Lescott isnt the amazing defender people make him out to be. Hasn't been bad for us but hasn't been a massive upgrade like you say since Pulis came in the defensive shape ofthe side improved anyway. Given his wages and his age I can see the club moving him on.
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if we can get a fee for him I would sell, he's well past his best and will have one season at most left at this level .
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I can see why people might jump to the conclusion that Lescott is on the way out, benched last weekend, unsettled by the Villa bid not happy at the prospect of being pushed out to left back and Fazio arriving.
However Fazio is right footed really cannot cover left back and if pace is part of the issue with Lescott Fazio doesn't have much either. If Lescott goes we are getting in another Centre Back to replace him.
I am intrigued by this situation and until the window closes and Pulis puts out a team I honestly don't have a clue where this is heading.
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honestly don't have a clue where this is heading.
Totally agree. No idea of the plan and I just hope we have one with a quality midfielder built in.
Full backs and pace we have needed for years. Joleon is neither but i am lost. ...
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Strangely enough fazio isn't being signed to directly replace lescott. I've been told in good faith that should lescott leave the club will look for another center back in order to fill the void potentially left by lescotts departure this is aswell as fazio signing.
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Strangely enough fazio isn't being signed to directly replace lescott. I've been told in good faith that should lescott leave the club will look for another center back in order to fill the void potentially left by lescotts departure this is aswell as fazio signing.
Once again I am totally incredulous at the clubs thought processes.
Player of the season, arch rivals, Leader on the pitch, yes wages are high but wouldn't a replacement demand high wages?
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Once again I am totally incredulous at the clubs thought processes.
Player of the season, arch rivals, Leader on the pitch, yes wages are high but wouldn't a replacement demand high wages?
Not as much as what lescott is on mate and even so fazio or other potential defenders we are after aren't as old either. The back line needs freshening up someone has to give and Pulis is a admirer of both Macaulay and Jonas so it's likely that lescott will go I should imagine.
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Player of the season and best centre back at the club.
Pulis probably doesn't like the way he plays it out from the back rather than 'smacking it into the mixer'
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Not as much as what lescott is on mate and even so fazio or other potential defenders we are after aren't as old either. The back line needs freshening up someone has to give and Pulis is a admirer of both Macaulay and Jonas so it's likely that lescott will go I should imagine.
I get the freshening up thing,(its hard to argue) I'm shocked that TP doesn't rate JL though. TBH I suspect TP doesn't like that JL publicly objected to being played at LB. I acknowledge that is pure conjecture on my part, but there is a definite pattern of one step out of place and your surplus to requirements (Mulumbu / Poc / Gamboa / sess, JL now?)
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Not as much as what lescott is on mate and even so fazio or other potential defenders we are after aren't as old either. The back line needs freshening up someone has to give and Pulis is a admirer of both Macaulay and Jonas so it's likely that lescott will go I should imagine.
I'm just shocked that anybody at Prem level is and admirers of Jonas these days, at least as a footballer. He has been poor at this level for a couple of tears now and his distribution, the aimles diagonal thump, is increasingly poor.
He's been a great servant, but his time has been and gone. That's football.
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I should point out the fazio deal is completely seperate to any deal involving lescott. If we were to lose lescott then we would sign another center back. Lescott isn't going anywhere yet.
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Maybe Lescott is the one pushing to leave. One more big payout for him before he retires. Some players want to be transferred regularly for the money they and their agents get. Maybe he is thinking of the money.
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I should point out the fazio deal is completely seperate to any deal involving lescott. If we were to lose lescott then we would sign another center back. Lescott isn't going anywhere yet.
That's surprising. Do you know if we plan to move on any of the other centre backs then? We have far too many
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That's surprising. Do you know if we plan to move on any of the other centre backs then? We have far too many
If some of the centre-backs are going to play as full-backs (because no full-backs are signed before the window closes) then we arguably don't have too many.
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Maybe its a cunning plan to corner the market 8) 8)
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Player of the season and best centre back at the club.
Pulis probably doesn't like the way he plays it out from the back rather than 'smacking it into the mixer'
:o
He's as uncomfortable in possession as any of them, that's why he's such a poor left back.
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Great player last season for us but I dont mind if he goes hes 33 .... £2-3million and Ill be happy to see him go, if he stays ... then great also ... Im not really too interested in this one tbh .
Either way again .... I think its win win.
Cash in on the old legs.
Or Keep a valuable squad player.
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Alan Nixon @reluctantnicko
Aston Villa trying to sign Joleon Lescott from West Brom. Full details in The Sun online shortly.
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Alan Nixon @reluctantnicko
Aston Villa trying to sign Joleon Lescott from West Brom. Full details in The Sun online shortly.
It certainly won't break my heart to see Lescott leave us, even if it is to those b******s! He was 'OK' last year I thought, no great shakes. I think he saved us and cost us in equal measure.
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I think many people have short memories. Lescott was head and shoulders above any of our other defenders last season. Best CB we've had in a long time. Will be very disappointed to see him leave, and gutted if it's to the Vile.
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I think many people have short memories. Lescott was head and shoulders above any of our other defenders last season. Best CB we've had in a long time. Will be very disappointed to see him leave, and gutted if it's to the Vile.
I personally think Dawson was the pick of our back four last season. Yes, Lescott is experienced and reads the game well but is too slow to be 100% effective, especially when the opposition tends to have 60% + possession against us! We need younger, quicker fresh legs to deal with such intense pressure and workload on our back four.
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If Lescott goes our left back options will be Brunt and McLean! :o
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It certainly won't break my heart to see Lescott leave us, even if it is to those b******s! He was 'OK' last year I thought, no great shakes. I think he saved us and cost us in equal measure.
i agree with this
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According to TP, Lescott has "spoken with Richard [Garlick]", while remaining a consummate professional. I think he'll leave before the window closes.
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I'm really not liking where this is going...
Lescott was our best defender last year and his experience was invaluable during tough times. Selling our best defender to our local rivals would be a real kick in the teeth. You can just see the club taking into account his huge wages, and the fact he is 33 therefore commanding a transfer fee of around 2 million would be a good recoup. I just don't see it and it would be a crying shame if he left.
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I find it strange the vile want a 33year old for £2-3m plus wages, no matter how good !
I s'pose the benteke cash is burning a hole in dim's pocket
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If Lescott goes our left back options will be Brunt and McLean! :o
Brunt is a better left back than Lescott IMO, not sure about McLean
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Just a rumour from a another site that Lescott is down at the Vile training ground at the moment. How true don't know.
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He's 33 so I would squeeze 2 million out of the vile .
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On the flip side if it has been spotted in training or where ever he is on the decline already or rapidly, selling him to our rivals could be genius
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I've said before that I would keep him if it was to be to play in the centre, not if he's put out to the left.
However, it might be that something has been seen, and for some players when age kicks in it does it quickly. Look at Gary Neville, really good year, next season misses a couple of games, played agianst us and got absolutely skinned giving away a dead certain nailed on penalty (albeit the ref didn't give it at Old Trafford!), recognises his legs have gone and his brain is no longer quick enough to make up for it and retires.
Could be that the coaching staff have seen something similar from Lescott in which case £2 Million from the Vile would be excellent!
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I'd be disappointed to see him leave but he is 33 now and clearly isn't Pulis' first choice. With Fazio joining he's going to fall even lower down the pecking order and he is one of the highest earners at the club.
As someone has already mentioned though, this will leave us very short at LB. Despite Lescott being awful playing there theres no way we can go through the season with Brunt and McClean as first choice left backs
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I personally think Dawson was the pick of our back four last season. Yes, Lescott is experienced and reads the game well but is too slow to be 100% effective, especially when the opposition tends to have 60% + possession against us! We need younger, quicker fresh legs to deal with such intense pressure and workload on our back four.
This is how I see it too. Lescott should be using his experience to organise the players around him so he's not exposed. Just like John Terry does week in and week out.
Shawcoss is the same, he looks awesome when he has protection from his mates. But when he played for England he was exposed and conceded 3 goals in 12 minutes.
The commentator at the Man City game said it was Dawson who was pushing the line up the pitch and telling them when to drop off. If that is true then it shows Lescott is not using his experience wisely. The time may be right to replace him.
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I've said before that I would keep him if it was to be to play in the centre, not if he's put out to the left.
However, it might be that something has been seen, and for some players when age kicks in it does it quickly. Look at Gary Neville, really good year, next season misses a couple of games, played agianst us and got absolutely skinned giving away a dead certain nailed on penalty (albeit the ref didn't give it at Old Trafford!), recognises his legs have gone and his brain is no longer quick enough to make up for it and retires.
Could be that the coaching staff have seen something similar from Lescott in which case £2 Million from the Vile would be excellent!
I'm certain it was at The Shrine mate.
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Vastly experienced but he's simply too slow now
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I'm really not liking where this is going...
Lescott was our best defender last year and his experience was invaluable during tough times. Selling our best defender to our local rivals would be a real kick in the teeth. You can just see the club taking into account his huge wages, and the fact he is 33 therefore commanding a transfer fee of around 2 million would be a good recoup. I just don't see it and it would be a crying shame if he left.
I'm with you on this.
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I'm with you on this.
me three, £2m buys you nothing nowadays. I would rather have him even if not 1st choice than let him help the Vile out.
Vastly experienced who would help out Chester and Dawson as they are integrated into the team more and more.
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Best defender we've had a few years. My player of the year last season. Will be devasted if goes. Back to the drab of McCauley and Olsson then. *rolls eyes*
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Vastly experienced but he's simply too slow now
Which is why we should be building a younger, quicker defence around him. Instead we give a 35 year old McAuley another year.
From Lescott's perspective a move to Villa will be fantastic. Supported them as a kid, he doesn't have to move house, one last pay day and he gets to play alongside his mate Richards. I would also say he is perhaps not overly keen on the Pulis way of playing and certainly doesn't like being utilised as a LB. As shame if he does go as he will strengthen a rival IMO.
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Vastly experienced but he's simply too slow now
Yeah let's stick with speed demons that are Olsson, McCauley and Dawson
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He's the best CB we have, even with his flaws.
Dawson will NEVER be good enough to play CB at premier league level.
Mac is even older and not better then him.
JO has never been as good as Lescott.
Chester is simply not as good, relegation with Hull last season helps prove my point. Hull were awful at times and he hardly stood out.
Quite simply 2 million is small time for a premier league club so why sell to our biggest premier league rivals.
I think there must be a clash of some sort between Lescott and Pulis, something is not right in the situation.
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He's the best CB we have, even with his flaws.
Dawson will NEVER be good enough to play CB at premier league level.
Mac is even older and not better then him.
JO has never been as good as Lescott.
Chester is simply not as good, relegation with Hull last season helps prove my point. Hull were awful at times and he hardly stood out.
Quite simply 2 million is small time for a premier league club so why sell to our biggest premier league rivals.
I think there must be a clash of some sort between Lescott and Pulis, something is not right in the situation.
Probably on him being used at lb over and over again
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Our best defender and current player of the season, I for one will be really sad to see him go, don’t understand why we are letting this happen. As for the he’s ‘too slow now’ comments, you have seen the other defenders we have on our books? Olsson, GMac, Dawson and Fazio (potentially) – probably all as slow as Lescott and some of them SLOWER!
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I still can't believe we are sitting here and discussing the fact that Lescott might be going. Granted, he isn't the quickest centre half but does anybody genuinely feel that we need pace at centre half, if TP is manager? We defend compact and deep - so why is it so necessary?
Was it 10 clean sheets in 18 games or something after TP came in? I would play a very large part of that down to Joleon Lescott. If he is managed carefully, he has at least 2 good years left in him. Also, good pros are essential to any club and he is one of them.
Have a read of this article from Gary Neville. He talks about John Terry and I feel a lot of what he is saying can relate to our situation with JL.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/chelsea/11816579/Chelsea-must-do-everything-to-keep-John-Terry-dont-lose-his-experience-like-Liverpool-did-Steven-Gerrard.html
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Fee agreed according to nixon
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Can anyone give me a good reason for selling Lescott because I can't think of one.
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Can anyone give me a good reason for selling Lescott because I can't think of one.
Maybe TP doesnt rate him and somebody is prepared to offer decent money for him. I cant imagine we'd be selling him if TP wanted to use him.
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Can anyone give me a good reason for selling Lescott because I can't think of one.
Maybe the player has hinted he wants to go
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Maybe the player has hinted he wants to go
Indeed, he will be a hard player to motivate these days. He's already made his millions and has enough winners medals in his trophy cabinet to look back on when he's an old man.
Playing for Villa with his best mate while he still has a year left in his legs may be the most appealing option for him.
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I'd imagine Lescott has hinted he wants to go to his boyhood club, but I still dont understand the comments from many close to the club saying hat Pulis has "never been sure" on Lescott. How can you not be sure on a player with the much experience and quality. His levels of performance have always been as good as, if not better than what we have before.
I feel the negative comments against Olsson and Macauley are a bit cruel as neither player ha really done anything wrong and they kept a clean sheet at the weekend but I don't think ill ever really understand why we are selling, unless it is due to having an old back line.
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I'd imagine Lescott has hinted he wants to go to his boyhood club, but I still dont understand the comments from many close to the club saying hat Pulis has "never been sure" on Lescott. How can you not be sure on a player with the much experience and quality. His levels of performance have always been as good as, if not better than what we have before.
I feel the negative comments against Olsson and Macauley are a bit cruel as neither player ha really done anything wrong and they kept a clean sheet at the weekend but I don't think ill ever really understand why we are selling, unless it is due to having an old back line.
He publicly stated he didn't want to play left back, the writing was on the wall from that moment. Pulis demands total commitment to the cause.
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I'd imagine Lescott has hinted he wants to go to his boyhood club, but I still dont understand the comments from many close to the club saying hat Pulis has "never been sure" on Lescott. How can you not be sure on a player with the much experience and quality. His levels of performance have always been as good as, if not better than what we have before.
I feel the negative comments against Olsson and Macauley are a bit cruel as neither player ha really done anything wrong and they kept a clean sheet at the weekend but I don't think ill ever really understand why we are selling, unless it is due to having an old back line.
I suspect there has been a falling out at some point. That is unless he has been 'tapped up' by the Vile and you could see the attraction in a move for him. I agree with your point re Olsson and McAuley to a degree although I don't think people are being too negative. Olsson has been a great servant but so obviously in decline. McAuley again has been great but for me should have been moved on for someone younger. Our defence is pretty decent but we could be looking at a complete overhaul next season. If better CH's are available now then it makes sense to do business and freshen things up. My concern is it may come at the expense of strengthening other more pressing areas.
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I heard from a decent source Lescott had a meeting with garlick and pulis last week in which he asked if the club would let him make a move to another premier league club no names were mentioned to me.
I am a big pulis fan but I will be gutted to see lescott go in such a crucial season for West Bromwich albion
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I heard from a decent source Lescott had a meeting with garlick and pulis last week in which he asked if the club would let him make a move to another premier league club no names were mentioned to me.
I am a big pulis fan but I will be gutted to see lescott go in such a crucial season for West Bromwich albion
Me too, his experience and positional sense makes those around him look better than they probably are. If he goes we definitely need a strong, experienced replacement who can command the back 4.
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lescott is not that slow,he got decent pace
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if lescott is sold and a good replacement isn't signed I don't think the players we currently have playing in defence will keep us in the premier next year.
brunt, a midfielder playing lb
olson , past his best and no pace
gmac , as above
dawson , schooled as a ch but looks better at rb
chester, dropped after 1 game.
forget poco and gamboa I think they are history.
as a defence that list just doesn't give me any confidence at all.
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I think we will end up with Evans on loan tbf
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if lescott is sold and a good replacement isn't signed I don't think the players we currently have playing in defence will keep us in the premier next year.
brunt, a midfielder playing lb
olson , past his best and no pace
gmac , as above
dawson , schooled as a ch but looks better at rb
chester, dropped after 1 game.
forget poco and gamboa I think they are history.
as a defence that list just doesn't give me any confidence at all.
Oh dear, that list looks bad.
Im very concerned.
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Fee agreed according to nixon
Load of utter rubbish just as you would expect from a journalist who works for that rag.
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I think we will end up with Evans on loan tbf
spurs,everton and stokeare showing interest, we have no chance
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spurs,everton and stokeare showing interest, we have no chance
Yes we do we have just as much chance as them as things stand. May I remind people it's paper talk those clubs may not be after him. We certainly are though.
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Selling a key cog in our 16 clean sheets last year would be daft. I know the defence
Is aging but selling the younger and most experienced of our 3 veterans to our relegation rivals for peanuts would be daft
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Think some on here are under rating Lescott and perhaps down playing just how good he was for us last year. Yes of course he isnt an absolutely perfect CB but he wouldnt be playing for us if he was and in my opinion he was our best defender (and 2nd best player) by an absolute mile last season.
Pace could be an issue but considering we defend so deep our centre mids play where most centre backs would I dont see how this affects anything. If Pulis wants to change this and get the team higher up then again fair enough, but when you see Olsson and McAuley starting that doesnt really play out, and Fazio is apprently on the slow side so I'm not buying that argument.
The only reason I can see if Lescott has demanded out, which if so speaks more about Pulis to me.
As a side note if Lescott goes I would argue that after £25m spent and only a couple of million recouped our starting 11 is probably weaker than the one we started last season with
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If anyone offers 3m for lescott i'd take it.
What our team is crying out imo is tricky creative mf, i like mozza but he's too hit and miss.
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The only reason I can see if Lescott has demanded out, which if so speaks more about Pulis to me.
It would take a big leap to try and blame it all on the head coach. Are you sure playing for the club he supports AND playing with his best mate have no bearing on him wanting to move? He's in his 17th season as a professional and has only spent 1 full season of those at West Brom. So it's not like he has a deep rooted fondness for the club no matter who was in charge.
There could be many reasons that added up over his first year at the club. If Burton and Co promised him quality signings he would be a bit miffed when he saw Gamboa, Blanco and Samaras walk through the door. I'll bet you any money they wouldn't have mentioned being in a tough relegation battle when they were selling the club to him.
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Are you sure playing him in a position he clearly isnt suited for any more, dropping him after 1 game and apparently never really trusting him doesnt have anything to do with it also?
Are signings like Rondon, Lambert & Fletcher because wont wont sign any better/more established names. And of course relegation would have been mentioned as he would have had either a release clause or flex down in his contract.
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If anyone offers 3m for lescott i'd take it.
What our team is crying out imo is tricky creative mf, i like mozza but he's too hit and miss.
Couldnt agree more.
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If he walks around thinking he's undroppable that's a bad sign straight away. He was poor against Man City (like several others) but he also left it to Dawson to lead the line up and down the pitch. As the experienced pro at the back, he should have been the guy running the line. Pulis isn't daft. He's down at pitch level and he can see/hear who is and who is not doing their job.
Same thing with John Terry against Man City. He's been an ever present under Mourinho, but as soon as Jose was unimpressed with his efforts he hooked him off at half time. If Terry doesn't play on Sunday would you expect him to look for another club?
How many games has he play at left back? 3 or 4 while Pulis was trying to find his best formula? If he's not willing to give a new head coach time to find the best formula that show's a bad attitude also. If Pulis got the sack tomorrow and a new guy came in they wouldn't be able to rely on Lescott would they...
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I imagine what may have happened is that when Lescott originally signed, he assumed he'd be the first name on the sheet, replacing the 'inferior' McAuley and Olsson.
However, as last season proved, McAuley and Olsson both featured at times, possibly more so than you'd expect. Then there's Chester thrown into the mix, for £8 million you'd expect a lot of game time at the back with him as well.
My point is, Lescott originally came to us to play regular football, which was fair enough. In his view, he should be playing weekly and I assume he doesn't want to be rotated which it looks like, so that is why he may be off.
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There is no way Pulis is "rotating" the back four. Once he has settled on a line up that's it barring injury or major loss of form. It will be very interesting to see who lines up against Chelsea if there is no place for Lescott I would begin to wonder about his future.
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I think its a decent guess that he has let it known he would be interested in making a move. I also think we would be fairly open to it as we would get a fee for him and his wages off the bill to maybe give us a little extra to get a younger player in.
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If he is worried about a "relegation battle".Then Villa is a good move..........look at last season! :D
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What I'm hearing is that Lescott is going to be moving to Villa, I haven't spoke to him personally in years since the days of hanging around Quinton, but know lots of people who know him personally, including his wife Debbie and her sister Rachael. Nothing set in stone yet, but he is expecting to leave. I would imagine, we will bring in another CB before green lighting the move.
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It would take a big leap to try and blame it all on the head coach. Are you sure playing for the club he supports AND playing with his best mate have no bearing on him wanting to move? He's in his 17th season as a professional and has only spent 1 full season of those at West Brom. So it's not like he has a deep rooted fondness for the club no matter who was in charge.
There could be many reasons that added up over his first year at the club. If Burton and Co promised him quality signings he would be a bit miffed when he saw Gamboa, Blanco and Samaras walk through the door. I'll bet you any money they wouldn't have mentioned being in a tough relegation battle when they were selling the club to him.
he rejected villa to sign for us
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Not surprised if Lescott has become unsettled with the pursuit of central defenders under the current regime. I too think he should be one of the established pair in the middle. I'm sorry, but he was wasted at left back. Somehow, I cannot visualise Lescott accelerating around the outside of opposing backs and getting crosses in from high up the pitch. Yet, that is exactly what we need from our full backs, which doesn't seem to be registering at management level.
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He publicly stated he didn't want to play left back, the writing was on the wall from that moment. Pulis demands total commitment to the cause.
I don't blame him.
It was utter stupidity of Pulis to continuously play him at left back when there are other alternatives within the squad far suited to that position.
He is our best defender, a class act, and I'll be disappointed to see him go.
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Sell him... Get £3m off the seals and on to the next.
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@sportbbcwm: #avfc TS after the match said its 'unlikely' that they'll do anymore business.
So unless this is completed then he's staying with us.
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Sell him... Get £3m off the seals and on to the next.
Th next who? We cant even secure a deal for Fazio who will cost more in fees than Lescott and if reports are true at least the same in wages (and he isnt as good) Evans looks to have other options and would cost £7m/£8m more than we would get for Lescott. Who do you subgest the 'next one' should be if its that simple?
At the moment it seems to me we are likely to have a defence this season that cost a hell of a lot more than last years one but isnt nearly as good.
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Th next who? We cant even secure a deal for Fazio who will cost more in fees than Lescott and if reports are true at least the same in wages (and he isnt as good) Evans looks to have other options and would cost £7m/£8m more than we would get for Lescott. Who do you subgest the 'next one' should be if its that simple?
At the moment it seems to me we are likely to have a defence this season that cost a hell of a lot more than last years one but isnt nearly as good.
£3mil for a player his age is great business. Fazio was superb for Seville and they played a deep counter attack style. We need to reduce the age of the defence and although I like lescott at CB, Pulis dont want to play him there.
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Maybe swap lescott for hutton, he's got the nasty streak pulis likes.
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If he is worried about a "relegation battle".Then Villa is a good move..........look at last season! :D
as it stands they are less likely to be involved in one this season than we are. how threadbare our squad is is scary !!
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Maybe swap lescott for hutton, he's got the nasty streak pulis likes.
Lescott is much better than Hutton.
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Lescott is much better than Hutton.
I believe the comment was firmly tongue in cheek. I hope.
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as it stands they are less likely to be involved in one this season than we are. how threadbare our squad is is scary !!
threadbare and very unbalanced a massive 10days of window left
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I believe the comment was firmly tongue in cheek. I hope.
I'm pretty sure he was being serious.
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offers in for Lescott from Villa and Stoke, Lescott prefers Villa naturally
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I wouldnt sell him at all
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offers in for Lescott from Villa and Stoke, Lescott prefers Villa naturally
How do you know? Source?
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Noticable that Lescott didn't warm up at half time.
I was sure that Olsson would come off and Lescott would be on after the break.
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He warmed up just before the break.
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Club have told him he can leave when we get new defender in, breaking news on Sky Sports. The West Brom show on there at the moment.
Sky Sports News HQ â€@SkySportsNewsHQ 40s40 seconds ago
BREAKING: Sky Sources: West Brom will allow Joleon Lescott to leave club when they sign another defender. #SSNHQ
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With all the speculation in recent weeks and the fact he's not been playing its hardly a surprise.
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I'm going to be absolutely gutted to lose a defender of his quality. I just don't get this at all. Do we really think we can bring in somebody better?
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If any other team lost there too two performers from the season before you would say they would be struggling
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I'm going to be absolutely gutted to lose a defender of his quality. I just don't get this at all. Do we really think we can bring in somebody better?
100% agree. I can't see why we would sell our best defender, and player of the season, yet keep Olsson? It's not like we need the couple million we'll get for him.
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I'm going to be absolutely gutted to lose a defender of his quality. I just don't get this at all. Do we really think we can bring in somebody better?
As much as I can understand the club being willing to cash in while they have the chance on a 33-year-old who happens to be one of our highest earners I can't help but think there is a little more to it behind the scenes.
We do need to look at the future and our current central defenders are no spring chickens.
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100% agree. I can't see why we would sell our best defender, and player of the season, yet keep Olsson? It's not like we need the couple million we'll get for him.
He obviously wants to leave. Why keep someone here against their will, that is certainly not Pulis' style.
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You have to ask will Jonny Evans and Fazio be a stronger pairing that McAuley and Lescott? As much as I like Lescott and would like him to stay if we are to improve on him then you can't argue. The same goes for Berahino. If his money can bring in 2/3 good players then it has to be done.
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I think this is as much about the player wanting to leave as us wanting to replace him. If I remember rightly we have an option for another year on his contract but only if he plays a certain number of games, if he is not Pulis' first choice he might struggle get the number of games required. It might be better for him to get fixed up on a two year contract now than rather than take his chances next summer.
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I actually rate Lescott still has our best defender - certainly our cleverest and most influencial - the guy's a winner.
To let him go for peanuts and most likely strengthen our relegation opponents just doesn't make sense whilst we keep Olsson and MacAuley !
Rumours of Johnny Evens and the dire Fazio (at Prem so far that is) fill me with dread, especially as the cash is needed elsewhere in the team.
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I actually rate Lescott still has our best defender - certainly our cleverest and most influencial - the guy's a winner.
To let him go for peanuts and most likely strengthen our relegation opponents just doesn't make sense whilst we keep Olsson and MacAuley !
Rumours of Johnny Evens and the dire Fazio (at Prem so far that is) fill me with dread, especially as the cash is needed elsewhere in the team.
We have to do something about our cb situation. We cannot go another full season with our three main cb's all either past their best or very rapidly declining to no longer prem level. Already this summer we have seen how difficult it is to get a starter cb in, imagine the nightmare of having to replace three cb's with prem level players in one single transfer window.
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I actually rate Lescott still has our best defender - certainly our cleverest and most influencial - the guy's a winner.
To let him go for peanuts and most likely strengthen our relegation opponents just doesn't make sense whilst we keep Olsson and MacAuley !
Rumours of Johnny Evens and the dire Fazio (at Prem so far that is) fill me with dread, especially as the cash is needed elsewhere in the team.
I agree with you on that, he can see the danger before it happens and reads the game really well. He's always talking to others around him and is leader material. Its just a pity about his pace.....
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I agree with you on that, he can see the danger before it happens and reads the game really well. He's always talking to others around him and is leader material. Its just a pity about his pace.....
But he still probably has more pace than Olsson or GMac !
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But he still probably has more pace than Olsson or GMac !
Indeed he has! ;D
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Anything which weakens us and strengthens the Vile is a NO from me.
I believe this would weaken our squad while strengthening the Vile should he move there.
As for Evans coming in as a replacement, I cannot in all honesty say this move would fill me with confidence.
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Need a CB who can cover Brunt at LB too... or a CB and a LB.
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I wouldn't be adverse to Jonny Evans joining the club - I just think he will be an expensive acquisition when funds should really be addressed elsewhere.
If Lescott wants to go then fvck him - hopefully we get a sizeable fee and an adequate replacement. I don't think our replacement will be better than him to be perfectly honest.
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I wouldn't be adverse to Jonny Evans joining the club - I just think he will be an expensive acquisition when funds should really be addressed elsewhere.
If Lescott wants to go then fvck him - hopefully we get a sizeable fee and an adequate replacement. I don't think our replacement will be better than him to be perfectly honest.
I have quite liked Lescott since he has been with us, but, he has made a fair few mistakes, getting a fee for a 33 year old is rarely bad business, not sure selling to the Vile is a good idea though.
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I have quite liked Lescott since he has been with us, but, he has made a fair few mistakes, getting a fee for a 33 year old is rarely bad business, not sure selling to the Vile is a good idea though.
He would weaken us and strengthen the Vile so on that basis alone I would allow him to leave but not to Villa under any circumstance.
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We should forget about Lescott going to Villa, the truth is he is getting older and the mistakes he has made have cost us, selling an aging, central defender is not going to weaken us. However our replacement has to be someone in who is more mobile, younger with the ability to pass the ball to one of our own team this will only strengthen us.
The added bones of a transfer fee. reducing the wage bill will help, as will watching deluded Villa fans seeing Lescott being caught out for pace by Rondon will make it all worthwhile ;)
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If Lescott had scored from 2 yards at Seal Park then Villa might be in the Championship now. I don't mind if he leaves, but we need a replacement as I can't cope with Olsson all season.
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If Stoke are interested he can have his medical on saturday during the game and sign on the dottef line and save himself a bus fare.
I think hughes signed for city too.
Re selling to vile, "I wouldn'r sell that lot a cold".
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Personally not bothered where he goes, he had a purple patch last season but got caught out too often for my liking.
Anybody that makes Bobby Zamora look like Usain Bolt shouldn't be playing in the back 4 IMO.
The club are obviously not that fussed anyway, according to WM just he's been told he can go once they have another defender in place.
Probably replace him with a younger, cheaper version.
Win Win
Also reported in today's press that he has a contractual dispute with the club and has turned to the PFA to resolve.
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Personally not bothered where he goes, he had a purple patch last season but got caught out too often for my liking.
Anybody that makes Bobby Zamora look like Usain Bolt shouldn't be playing in the back 4 IMO.
The club are obviously not that fussed anyway, according to WM just he's been told he can go once they have another defender in place.
Probably replace him with a younger, cheaper version.
Win Win
Agree with this entirely. That QPR game was the last straw for me in many ways, Lescott's dreadful lack of pace amongst them.
And of course, for whatever reason, the rumblings seem to be that is heart isn't with Albion. In which case, get rid.
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There are a few mixed messages here. One minute he has no pace and is a liability, but if we sell him to the vile then he would strengthen their defence and weaken ours.
Personally I like the guy but if he is unsettled then perhaps he should go, and if the vile are stupid enough to pay money then lets take it off them. Secret agent Lescott may ultimately help them achieve something that they have dodged for the past three years.........
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i think he would do a good job in the fizzy, swap him for Afobe :)
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Agreed WBA, we would also want cash in the deal I assume??? ;D
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Agreed WBA, we would also want cash in the deal I assume??? ;D
i would also be willing to give them 3 million to help their coffers
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He's a Dingle anyway, the minute he leaves he'll be declaring his love for Wolves again.
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Also reported in today's press that he has a contractual dispute with the club and has turned to the PFA to resolve.
Bring me the head of Football Administration...
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Personally not bothered where he goes, he had a purple patch last season but got caught out too often for my liking.
Anybody that makes Bobby Zamora look like Usain Bolt shouldn't be playing in the back 4 IMO.
The club are obviously not that fussed anyway, according to WM just he's been told he can go once they have another defender in place.
Probably replace him with a younger, cheaper version.
Win Win
Also reported in today's press that he has a contractual dispute with the club and has turned to the PFA to resolve.
Love the comment, made me laugh it was so true!
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Contract dispute? Loss of earnings? Give me a break from these utter to$$ers, if he hasn't got 10 million squirreled away that's his own fault, how much does anyone need? What happened to all that "new challenge, playing football is the great thing" from last summer? Take 3 mill off Villa, he's past his best now anyway.
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Personally not bothered where he goes, he had a purple patch last season but got caught out too often for my liking.
Anybody that makes Bobby Zamora look like Usain Bolt shouldn't be playing in the back 4 IMO.
The club are obviously not that fussed anyway, according to WM just he's been told he can go once they have another defender in place.
Probably replace him with a younger, cheaper version.
Win Win
Also reported in today's press that he has a contractual dispute with the club and has turned to the PFA to resolve.
I guess we can always bring in the speed merchants that are Evans and Fazio! ;D
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I don't get this whole 'fast CB' thing. There aren't many fast centre backs around. Chris Smalling is one, but he's a full back turned CB. Maybe Zouma and Mangala. Micah Richards, but again, full back turned CB.
Normally the full backs are the pacey ones, but obviously Pulis prefers height over speed in that sense. Also if we're going to have such a deep defensive line, speed isn't such a big problem.
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Must say I’m absolutely bemused by the venom being spat at Lescott, people keep talking about these ‘reports’ of him wanting to leave, well I haven’t seen a shred of evidence to back up these claims. Where has Lescott said he wants out? By all accounts he desperately wanted to move to us last summer, took a substantial wage cut in the process and in the words of Tony Pulis has been nothing less than a model pro since he walked through the door.
Could it not be that we are just managing/juggling players in order to meet budgetary requirements, could the £50k-£60k a week Lescott is earning be used to recruit a younger model, one who might not be on such a hefty salary but may last 4-5 years longer? Add to the fact we could get a couple of million of quid for a 33 year old - suddenly it doesn’t seem that awful a proposition Mulumbu was moved on not because he wasn’t a useful squad member but because the £40k a week we were paying him could be utilised better than having him sit on the bench. Or maybe Lescott has told Pulis he wants to be used purely as a central defender and not a left back and Pulis has simply thought he needs someone of a more versatile mindset?
I find it laughable those writing him off and saying he’s useless, he’s our best defender by a mile, he won our player of the season just a few months ago and as for those ‘too slow’ remarks, well if you haven’t noticed our other options are McAuley, Olsson and Dawson, hardly Usain Bolt's themselves.
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I don't get this whole 'fast CB' thing. There aren't many fast centre backs around. Chris Smalling is one, but he's a full back turned CB. Maybe Zouma and Mangala. Micah Richards, but again, full back turned CB.
I think that when Curtis Davies played for us he used to make quite a few mistake, but it was his speed of recovery that made him stand out (and look a lot better).
If I look back at the Leicester and QPR games towards the end of last season the pace of our defence was really exposed (Zamora, Vardy, Schlup, Phillips, etc) and I think that at the moment anyone running at our defence will create opportunities by getting through on goal or picking up free kicks.
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I think that when Curtis Davies played for us he used to make quite a few mistake, but it was his speed of recovery that made him stand out (and look a lot better).
If I look back at the Leicester and QPR games towards the end of last season the pace of our defence was really exposed (Zamora, Vardy, Schlup, Phillips, etc) and I think that at the moment anyone running at our defence will create opportunities by getting through on goal or picking up free kicks.
I'm not saying our defenders aren't slow, they are. What I'm trying to say is that there aren't many options about for us to pick up a Premier League quality CB who is fast.
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He warmed up once on Sunday, wearing trainers, hardly looked like someone who was desperate to get on the pitch.
If he wants to go to his beloved Villa then be my guest, I'll drive him there.
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Lescott can go for me also. Sometimes great, sometimes woeful. Largely decent but with his age and wage and his desire to be elsewhere just sell him and use the money elsewhere.
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Lescott can go for me also. Sometimes great, sometimes woeful. Largely decent but with his age and wage and his desire to be elsewhere just sell him and use the money elsewhere.
Yup, spend money on someone who'll give his all for the club. If Lescott wants out he can go.
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I'm in favour of him going.
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For me I think him 'wanting out' is as much to do with Pulis playing him out of position and the style of football he is imposing on the side. OK so he may have been 'tapped up' by the Villa but if he was happy here there wouldn't be a problem. He was after all one of our best players last season. Our clean sheet total speaks volumes. He will cost a lot of money to replace. I'll bet Evans or Fazio will command similar wages plus transfer fees and signing on fees. You could argue that they are no better than Lescott either.
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For me I think him 'wanting out' is as much to do with Pulis playing him out of position and the style of football he is imposing on the side. OK so he may have been 'tapped up' by the Villa but if he was happy here there wouldn't be a problem. He was after all one of our best players last season. Our clean sheet total speaks volumes. He will cost a lot of money to replace. I'll bet Evans or Fazio will command similar wages plus transfer fees and signing on fees. You could argue that they are no better than Lescott either.
Why waste yet another opportunity to have a go at TP. Oh..you havnt !!!
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I think that when Curtis Davies played for us he used to make quite a few mistake, but it was his speed of recovery that made him stand out (and look a lot better).
If I look back at the Leicester and QPR games towards the end of last season the pace of our defence was really exposed (Zamora, Vardy, Schlup, Phillips, etc) and I think that at the moment anyone running at our defence will create opportunities by getting through on goal or picking up free kicks.
Curtis,now there is a ready made replacement??
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For me I think him 'wanting out' is as much to do with Pulis playing him out of position and the style of football he is imposing on the side. OK so he may have been 'tapped up' by the Villa but if he was happy here there wouldn't be a problem. He was after all one of our best players last season. Our clean sheet total speaks volumes. He will cost a lot of money to replace. I'll bet Evans or Fazio will command similar wages plus transfer fees and signing on fees. You could argue that they are no better than Lescott either.
On the other hand players like Evans and Fazio have a future. Lescott is hobbling along on his last legs now. He will need replacing next summer anyway. If we get a solid replacement it makes all the sense in the world to move Lescott on now.
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Why waste yet another opportunity to have a go at TP. Oh..you havnt !!!
For what it's worth I actually like TP. I just find his brand of football awful to watch. I'm sure there are many players who wouldn't want to play for him either.
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not in squad tonight
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So you found us awful to watch on Sunday ? What kind of football do you want us to play ?
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So you found us awful to watch on Sunday ? What kind of football do you want us to play ?
Sunday was decent but will it continue to be like that? We played well on the odd occasion under him last season but it was mainly dross negative stuff.
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When he had the squad he wants I suspect there will be a lot more excitement. If we bring in 4/5 quality players then it will improve us and add consistency
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When he had the squad he wants I suspect there will be a lot more excitement. If we bring in 4/5 quality players then it will improve us and add consistency
I would hope so. I just can't see us bringing the 4/5 quality players in that are required. If that doesn't happen he'll obviously have to go with what he has which will mean grinding results out above all else.
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So you found us awful to watch on Sunday ? What kind of football do you want us to play ?
our football wasn't great we was just hoofing it up to rondon, just made to look better with macca
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When he had the squad he wants I suspect there will be a lot more excitement. If we bring in 4/5 quality players then it will improve us and add consistency
I like how people cling to this idea - it's wishful thinking at best. Just look at how Stoke used to play, that's a Tony Pulis side.
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I like how people cling to this idea - it's wishful thinking at best. Just look at how Stoke used to play, that's a Tony Pulis side.
I agree. It's also wishful thinking to hope that we can sign 4/5 players in 6 days.
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I agree. It's also wishful thinking to hope that we can sign 4/5 players in 6 days.
If Berahino stays thats a definate no anyway
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Personally I'd be really disappointed if Lescott went to Villa. If he wanted to play for them why didn't he sign for them last year, as they were allegedly in for him as well? Our best defender last season, yes he has lost pace but he reads the game so well. Saying that, he is coming to the end of his career and Evans represents the future, if we can get him.
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Personally I'd be really disappointed if Lescott went to Villa. If he wanted to play for them why didn't he sign for them last year, as they were allegedly in for him as well? Our best defender last season, yes he has lost pace but he reads the game so well. Saying that, he is coming to the end of his career and Evans represents the future, if we can get him.
He chose us because he knew he was coming to the end of his career, and wanted to play for a decent club before ending up at the club that he misguidedly chose to support as a kid. ;D
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Sky Sports News say: £2m fee from Villa accepted but West Brom won't confirm the deal until a replacement comes in. :)
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Good luck to him, on his day he was class and got us through some dark times last season, seemed a nice bloke too.
I think Villa will have a good player for this season and he will most likely be a regular. The main issue is that by the end of the season I expect his form to drop off a bit with age, and next season you would assume he'd be looking at retirement.
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Sky Sports News say: £2m fee from Villa accepted but West Brom won't confirm the deal until a replacement comes in. :)
So his replacement looks like it will be Evans. Who is our back up left back to Brunt then?
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If Baird had still been here we could have had a complete Northern Ireland back 4
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So his replacement looks like it will be Evans. Who is our back up left back to Brunt then?
Might find out today but I expect it'll be Chester.
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Might find out today but I expect it'll be Chester.
Chester struggled at left back against port vale. Hate to see him hung out against PL quality players!
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As a person I will wish him all the best should he move in, however from a footballing perspective I hope he has a nightmare and contributes to Villa getting relegated.
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Sky Sports News say: £2m fee from Villa accepted but West Brom won't confirm the deal until a replacement comes in. :)
Complete and utter nonsense.
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Looked more like Joleon Legsaregone in his one appearance so far :D
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Looked more like Joleon Legsaregone in his one appearance so far :D
Joleon Legs-shot
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I like how people cling to this idea - it's wishful thinking at best. Just look at how Stoke used to play, that's a Tony Pulis side.
FallOutBoy id love to see you meet Mr.Pulis and have it out with him, every post I read from you, your more negative than Doctor Evil >:(
#Angry
#FallOutBoyForManager
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Playing left-back for us today by the look of it, seems that move can't be quite as close as some media outlets were making out.
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Playing left-back for us today by the look of it, seems that move can't be quite as close as some media outlets were making out.
It does suggest that the Evans deal isn't done and dusted.
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It does suggest that the Evans deal isn't done and dusted.
And also suggests that if Brunt is injured then we have no one else to cover at left back.
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It does suggest that the Evans deal isn't done and dusted.
Not sure anyone ever suggested it was. Just confirms he will play anyone but the one specialist left-back we have in that position.
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I suspect Lescott is only playing because both Brunt and Chester are injured. I think Chester would have probably played there but with him being out it was Lescott or Poco so no surprise we have been forced into playing him.
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And also suggests that if Brunt is injured then we have no one else to cover at left back.
Appalling after we have had months to fix this issue.
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Very risky. Lescott clearly did not enjoy left back or seem interested when played there previously. This coupled with his desire to move could potentially give us a harsh lesson.
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Was one of our better players today and did the simple things. I really hope we don't sell him now, he's still got a good season left in him. I would be quite disapointed if it was to the Vile of all teams too.
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Tom Ross and Radio WM say it will be done on Monday.
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Was one of our better players today and did the simple things. I really hope we don't sell him now, he's still got a good season left in him. I would be quite disapointed if it was to the Vile of all teams too.
I utterly disagree with you. Horrible passing and looked totally disinterested.
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Looked terrible today.. but then again all but 2 of them did.
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He did his job today, professional, especially with his head halfway out of the door.
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Looked as if he just wanted to get 90 mins out of the way and go. Decent player for a season
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done deal with villa i am hearing. at least he played eh saido
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Good point Devon. Nothing wrong with Lescotts attitude always a good professional
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Poor performance but remained professional. Fair play and thanks for the prior season.
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Vile defence is terrible so why sell him to them for 1m + add ons.
They are desperate so it should be 2m + add ons at least.
A million is nothing these days.
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Vile defence is terrible so why sell him to them for 1m + add ons.
They are desperate so it should be 2m + add ons at least.
A million is nothing these days.
I think that's what it is from what I have seen / heard.
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He looked chuffed enough when we scored yesterday. A happy lad. I wonder if Saido was pleased?
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Did he wave goodbye?
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He looked chuffed enough when we scored yesterday. A happy lad. I wonder if Saido was pleased?
I noticed that myself, seems happy enough to be here
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He looked chuffed enough when we scored yesterday. A happy lad. I wonder if Saido was pleased?
Agreed , one of the 1st players there to celebrate the goal with Rondon. He didn't look like a player who was about to leave the club !
thoroughly professional , unlike some who don't even celebrate when THEY score themselves
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Really hope we don't sell him - particularly not to the shower down the road
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Medical with Villa today :-[
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Really hope we don't sell him - particularly not to the shower down the road
Will be on very good money and he isn't who TP wants in the middle. The second Evans signed, Joleon was on the move. The transfer fee we get in for him is good business.
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Just read on a WBA facebook page that apparently he's failed a medical with Villa, no source or ITK though so could just be speculation. Thought i should throw it out there ;D
Like you I know nothing but I did read it was a spoof Twitter account
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Just read on a WBA facebook page that apparently he's failed a medical with Villa, no source or ITK though so could just be speculation. Thought i should throw it out there ;D
Source is a fake sky sports account
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Lots of talk the Pulis never really rated him, which I find strange because he always looked quite solid to me. Still, we have brought in 2 centre backs in their twenties and I have to admit we did have quite an old back line last season.
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Lots of talk the Pulis never really rated him, which I find strange because he always looked quite solid to me. Still, we have brought in 2 centre backs in their twenties and I have to admit we did have quite an old back line last season.
Never rated the best defender we have had for donkeys years? Says more about Pulis than Lescott IMO.
I have no problem with us signing Chester and Evans but Lescott should be kept in favour of Olsson any day.
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Don't think its a case of not rating him, I think its an excellent business decision to get around £2m for one of our top earners who would more than likely leave on a free in the Summer and have to be replaced then anyhow. Player obviously seems keen to leave to join his best mate at his boyhood heroes, personally i'm not sure he ever really wanted to come here but they couldn't afford his wages at the time down the road.
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Never rated the best defender we have had for donkeys years? Says more about Pulis than Lescott IMO.
I have no problem with us signing Chester and Evans but Lescott should be kept in favour of Olsson any day.
You are probably right but the fact Is that no one seems to want olsson.... Which says it all really
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We got a good year out of him and I'm not entirely sure how much longer we could get out of him at this level. He's a top earner and 33-year-old, if we have got a couple of million for him and his wages off the bill then I don't see it as a bad move for the club or Joleon.
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Reckon he has another 2 years left in him at this level. Pulis maybe sees something different
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IMO
he is and can be quite good
he wants to go (so how many would keep someone who doesnt want to be here?)
yes he may have been professional about it , but thats probably due to being a grown up and certain other things that shape how we behave?
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his knees , rumours or not , those knees have had a lot of punishment , when players go , they go quick , sell now for 2m and we really have done a really good bit of Biz , although i wouldnt be that surprised if the news about the medical is true..
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Sky claiming he's failed his medical at seal park :o
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Sky claiming he's failed his medical at seal park :o
If that's the case, we'll be well stocked in numbers defence-wise ;)
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Sky claiming he's failed his medical at seal park :o
That as been all over facebook and it looks like a false twitter account.
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Sky claiming he's failed his medical at seal park :o
You sure you haven't fallen for the fake Sky twitter account that posted that earlier today?
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Sky claiming he's failed his medical at seal park :o
. Been nothing on Sky about him failing
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Sky claiming he's failed his medical at seal park :o
Nothing on TV
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Sky claiming he's failed his medical at seal park :o
If the reports that he has failed though are true, it will be interesting to see if it's just the Vile trying to force the reported £2 mill price tag down.
Let's face it, the world and it's dog know's he has dodgie knees.
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If the reports that he has failed though are true, it will be interesting to see if it's just the Vile trying to force the reported £2 mill price tag down.
Let's face it, the world and it's dog know's he has dodgie knees.
If that was the case then I'd tell them where to go. The whole point of selling Lescott is to cash out on his final year...if the offer is too small then it's pointless selling him.
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If that was the case then I'd tell them where to go. The whole point of selling Lescott is to cash out on his final year...if the offer is too small then it's pointless selling him.
Very much agreed.
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Rumour spread from a fake Sky twatter account, it will go through, I'm sure. 8)
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If that was the case then I'd tell them where to go. The whole point of selling Lescott is to cash out on his final year...if the offer is too small then it's pointless selling him.
its not just the fee , wages are a massive part over the next 2 years .
we would prob take 1m at a push
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its not just the fee , wages are a massive part over the next 2 years .
we would prob take 1m at a push
Thought he only had one year remaining.
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Thought he only had one year remaining.
i believe we have an option , and in all probability as aback up we would probably exercise it
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i believe we have an option , and in all probability as aback up we would probably exercise it
Now that rings a bell.
Haven't got a link, but I read somewhere that part of the reason he wanted out was because we aren't planning to exercise said option.
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Now that rings a bell.
Haven't got a link, but I read somewhere that part of the reason he wanted out was because we aren't planning to exercise said option.
Thought I read it was a performance related trigger, could be mistaken though.
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Haven't got a link, but I read somewhere that part of the reason he wanted out was because we aren't planning to exercise said option.
Baggie79 posted here that we'd taken up the option. Later it appeared that we hadn't and then, soon after, a story surfaces about him going to the PFA because we reneged in taking up the option.
All of the above could be true!
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http://www.skysports.com/transfer-centre/
Aston Villa have agreed a fee with West Brom for central defender Joleon Lescott, according to Sky sources.
Lescott will undergo a medical with Aston Villa on Tuesday and, all going well, will then complete his transfer for a fee of £1m which could rise to £2m.
I do not like this bit of transfer news one little bit.
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This bit of business could come back to haunt us in a couple of weeks
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The key thing is, Lescott wants to go, so there is no point keeping someone who wants out, simple as.
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The key thing is, Lescott wants to go, so there is no point keeping someone who wants out, simple as.
Without trying to sound like a jerk, how do you know? When we scored at Stoke the other day he seemed well chuffed when celebrating the goal. Unlike Berahino who hasn't even played.
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He's a Villa fan. Imagine playing for Villa and you heard Albion were interested, fair play to him he's been a true pro.
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He was very professional the other day, but that doesn't stop him wanting to go, wouldn't you want to play for the club you supported as a kid?
Also TP said Lescott has been to see Richard Garlick and its out of his hands, hence why he was dropped for a few games straight after. I am 100% sure if Brunt was fit Saturday we might not of seen Lescott play.
Regarding him being chuffed when we scored, you just can't compare a professional like Lescott too a young kid like Berahino mate. Like i said the key is Lescott wanting to go, there's no problem with him wanting to do that in my book.
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Lescott may have another good year in him but I doubt any more than that. He's been excellent for us overall but he will be on significant wages, we're not going to extend his contract and any fee for someone of his age is a bonus. Hopefully we can use these funds to bring in younger talent. It beggars belief that Villa didn't sign him when he was available for nothing.
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Different manager for Villa then mate, also Villa were going down the route of signing mostly younger players under Lambert. Sherwood has had the same affect on his chairman, like Pulis with Peace. Both chairman are doing things differently from the past.
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Sky have been doing alot of guess work all summer regarding Lescott but this is true. By the end of the day he will be a villa player 100 percent.
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I'll be disappointed if he goes. I'd have him as our first choice CH when fit, playing him at left back was always going to be a struggle.
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Jonny Evans will be a fine player for us, one thing that Lescott lacked is Distribution, i'm pretty confident Evans will be better in this, also Evans can play at Fullback, left or right cb, he's younger and quicker.
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Pete O'Rourke â€@SportsPeteO 2 minutes ago
West Brom defender Joleon Lescott undergoing a medical at Aston Villa. #avfc #wba #DeadlineDay
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Just come up on sky he's completed his medical at vile
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2 million is a decent price for a 33 year old we signed for free. He Is without doubt one of the top 3 earners at the club and the club can now put that 2 million and his wage towards new players.
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2 million is a decent price for a 33 year old we signed for free. He Is without doubt one of the top 3 earners at the club and the club can now put that 2 million and his wage towards new players.
This is how I view it too. Good business by the Albion. IF he plays regularly at the Villa, I can see him costing them more points than he saves them over the course of this season. As I've said before on this thread, yes he saved us on a few occasions last season but errors and lack of position and pace cost us equally.
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This is how I view it too. Good business by the Albion. IF he plays regularly at the Villa, I can see him costing them more points than he saves them over the course of this season. As I've said before on this thread, yes he saved us on a few occasions last season but errors and lack of position and pace cost us equally.
Spot on.
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This is how I view it too. Good business by the Albion. IF he plays regularly at the Villa, I can see him costing them more points than he saves them over the course of this season. As I've said before on this thread, yes he saved us on a few occasions last season but errors and lack of position and pace cost us equally.
I think he'll form a good partnership with Richards. I agree he's had a few dodgy moments but who doesn't. It's no coincidence that our defensive record improved massively last season with him in the side. I'd rather he stayed for one more season and left on a free.
Will we be looking to replace him?
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I think he'll form a good partnership with Richards. I agree he's had a few dodgy moments but who doesn't. It's no coincidence that our defensive record improved massively last season with him in the side. I'd rather he stayed for one more season and left on a free.
Will we be looking to replace him?
I would imagine thats what Evans has been signed for
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This is how I view it too. Good business by the Albion. IF he plays regularly at the Villa, I can see him costing them more points than he saves them over the course of this season. As I've said before on this thread, yes he saved us on a few occasions last season but errors and lack of position and pace cost us equally.
I agree, I think he could get quite exposed at Villa. Here he had Fletcher and Yacob to protect him for the second half of the season, plus we tend to defend deeper then Villa.
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Lescott to villa for 1m according to ssn .
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Gutted over this but if he wanted to go, he wanted to go.
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SSN saying lescott signed for villia done deal
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He had one year left on his contract with us, with a 12 month extension option that appears we would not be taking up.
Vile offer him a two year deal, its a no-brainer for him.
I like Lescott, he seems like a nice lad and a good professional and he had a good season for us last season, but if you are to believe rumours, in his Wolves playing days he suffered serious non-footballing injuries to his knees. However he injured his knees, they do give him problems and will only become more of a liability as he gets older and I don't think he has two PL seasons left in him unfortunately.
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http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10265~4973021,00.html (http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10265~4973021,00.html)
Aston Villa is delighted to announce the signing of Joleon Lescott.
The 33-year-old defender has joined the club on a two year deal from West Bromwich Albion.
Villa fan Lescott becomes our eleventh signing this summer.
The England international has previously played for the Baggies, Man City, Everton and Wolves.
Lescott won the Premier League title at the Etihad Stadium in 2012 and 2014, the FA Cup in 2011 and the League Cup in 2014.
Manager Tim Sherwood is delighted to bring such an experienced player into his flourishing claret and blue ranks.
He said: "I'm delighted to bring Joleon on board.
"He's a player who has great Premier League experience and he'll be a huge help to the younger members of our squad."
Tune into AVTV HD this evening for the first exclusive interview with Joleon Lescott.
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http://www.wba.co.uk/news/article/wba-albion-lescott-villa-2662682.aspx (http://www.wba.co.uk/news/article/wba-albion-lescott-villa-2662682.aspx)
JOLEON Lescott has left Albion to join Aston Villa for an undisclosed fee.
The 33-year-old centre-half completed his move after undergoing a medical with Villa earlier today.
He departs Albion following 39 appearances in all competitions.
Lescott moved to The Hawthorns last summer on a free transfer after being released by Manchester City.
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http://www.wba.co.uk/news/article/wba-albion-lescott-villa-2662682.aspx (http://www.wba.co.uk/news/article/wba-albion-lescott-villa-2662682.aspx)
JOLEON Lescott has left Albion to join Aston Villa for an undisclosed fee.
The 33-year-old centre-half completed his move after undergoing a medical with Villa earlier today.
He departs Albion following 39 appearances in all competitions.
Lescott moved to The Hawthorns last summer on a free transfer after being released by Manchester City.
We sold him....Good business.
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Very disappointed with this as it will probably mean we will see a lot more of Olsson. Who is our LB cover now?
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Very disappointed with this as it will probably mean we will see a lot more of Olsson. Who is our LB cover now?
Pocognoli? ;)
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We sold him....Good business.
For the balance sheet it is yes.
On the playing side we have weakened our squad and improved not only a rival league team but our near neighbours.
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Pocognoli? ;)
I was thinking more Lambert! :D
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I cannot believe we have actually managed to weaken our squad today after all the talk from Pulis and Peace.
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Gutted about this, especially as he's gone to them scumbags. Easily our best defender last season, and player of the year. Yet we've kept Olsson. I don't care if he wanted to go, you do not sell him to your rivals leaving yourselves with a weaker defence. Evans and Lescott would have been a great CB pairing.
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Sorry to see him go, but i guess the die was cast and JP has cashed in, should have re-invested though :-(
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thanks for your service to the club & course Joleon. I'd like to wish you all the best with your new club but i'm sorry i carn't. ;)
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Sky reporting it was £1 million up front with another £1 million in add-ons.
Slightly disappointed to see him go but we need to be revamping our squad and this is just one position that needed looking at.
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Very disappointed with this as it will probably mean we will see a lot more of Olsson. Who is our LB cover now?
hope villa play him at left back
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I think we will have to reintegrate Pocognolli back into the team now. If Brunt is injured, the only other option would be Olsson and he is starting to look his age now (even if much of the criticism on here seems unfair). Pocognolli hasnt done much wrong so I hope he gets another chance.
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I think we will have to reintegrate Pocognolli back into the team now. If Brunt is injured, the only other option would be Olsson and he is starting to look his age now (even if much of the criticism on here seems unfair). Pocognolli hasnt done much wrong so I hope he gets another chance.
I think we're more likely to see Evans at full back..
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I think we're more likely to see Evans at full back..
Who's right-footed of course. He's previously said he doesn't really like playing on the left side of the central defence, so left-back really isn't going to be anywhere near the top of his positional wishlist.
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Who's right-footed of course. He's previously said he doesn't really like playing on the left side of the central defence, so left-back really isn't going to be anywhere need the top of his positional wishlist.
The attached you tube clips show him predominantly playing out from the left side of defence.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzWxMZSRv9g
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The attached you tube clips show him predominantly playing out from the left side of defence.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzWxMZSRv9g
No wonder Pulis signed him with the way he pings the ball forward ;D ;)
Looks very comfortable with both feet.
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No wonder Pulis signed him with the way he pings the ball forward ;D ;)
Looks very comfortable with both feet.
That's in a Man U side that actually puts players infront of the ball
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I have a feeling him and Richards could keep them up as a pair. I'm very disappointed to see last years player of the year go.
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was he our highest paid?
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The attached you tube clips show him predominantly playing out from the left side of defence.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzWxMZSRv9g
Very true but WorcsWBA is quite correct, he prefers to play on the right of the centre half pairing as per the article linked below which I originally posted to the Transfer Froum Part 2.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2136195/Jonny-Evans-feels-happier-playing-right-Manchester-Uniteds-defence.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2136195/Jonny-Evans-feels-happier-playing-right-Manchester-Uniteds-defence.html)
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I might be the only one but I don't think losing Lescott has weakened us.
It may have done with just Olsson as a replacement but Chester can play anywhere along the back line as can Evans. I'm expecting Evans to partner McAuley.
Lescott started well for us and has obvious leadership qualities but he is slow and gets caught out of position a fair bit. Hopefully Rondon can exploit that on Sept 19th.
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I might be the only one but I don't think losing Lescott has weakened us.
It may have done with just Olsson as a replacement but Chester can play anywhere along the back line as can Evans. I'm expecting Evans to partner McAuley.
Lescott started well for us and has obvious leadership qualities but he is slow and gets caught out of position a fair bit. Hopefully Rondon can exploit that on Sept 19th.
If we hoof the ball up to him all game then Lescott and Richards won't get an easier afternoon. Lescott should have been partnered with Evans with McAuley or Olsson moving on IMO.
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If we hoof the ball up to him all game then Lescott and Richards won't get an easier afternoon. Lescott should have been partnered with Evans with McAuley or Olsson moving on IMO.
thats a far too sensible post for me
Evans and Lescott would have been a great pairing and balanced with one being right footed and the other left.
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If we hoof the ball up to him all game then Lescott and Richards won't get an easier afternoon. Lescott should have been partnered with Evans with McAuley or Olsson moving on IMO.
yeah so Agbonlahor could waltz past him unchallenged and score like last season?
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Set pieces could be interesting come September 19th.
Lescott knows our drills inside out.
Time for new set piece tac tics perhaps.
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The attached you tube clips show him predominantly playing out from the left side of defence.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzWxMZSRv9g
looks like he passes the ball better than our midfield.
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yeah so Agbonlahor could waltz past him unchallenged and score like last season?
He can waltz past McAuley instead then this season. :D
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He can waltz past McAuley instead then this season. :D
But they won't score, fosters out :D
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http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/west-bromwich-albion-explain-player-10016961
For me this move was all about finances and not footballing reasons. If Pulis wanted to lower the age of the defence then surely releasing McAuley who was out of contract was a no brainer. Our best defender last season would have been a great partner for Evan IMO.
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http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/west-bromwich-albion-explain-player-10016961
For me this move was all about finances and not footballing reasons. If Pulis wanted to lower the age of the defence then surely releasing McAuley who was out of contract was a no brainer. Our best defender last season would have been a great partner for Evan IMO.
Lescott wanted to go, Evans and McAuley are partners for Northern Ireland so a relationship is already there. Saying that I would also have released McAuley in the Summer.
Not sure all of this is down to Pulis, yes he could have forced Lescott to stay but how does that help anyone ?
Lescott will have a worldy against us guaranteed but over the season I think he will struggle as Villas defence is no better than ours.
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Lescott wanted to go, Evans and McAuley are partners for Northern Ireland so a relationship is already there. Saying that I would also have released McAuley in the Summer.
Did he, I've haven't seen or heard anything to suggest he was actively looking for a transfer. From how I interrupted the situation he was keen to sign a one year extension to his contract when Villa first inquired about his availability, which we then reneged on.
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It's just business.
With Lescott, McAulay and Olsson all into their mid thirties the only one who would raise a fee was Lescott, who was also on probably on a far higher wage than the other two, so he went and this lessened the impact on the finances of the Evans fee and his wage.
Evans is much younger , much quicker and a much better user of the ball than any of the them so fair enough in my view.
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It's just business.
With Lescott, McAulay and Olsson all into their mid thirties the only one who would raise a fee was Lescott, who was also on probably on a far higher wage than the other two, so he went and this lessened the impact on the finances of the Evans fee and his wage.
Evans is much younger , much quicker and a much better user of the ball than any of the them so fair enough in my view.
Spot on. We played Saturday against Southampton and kept ANOTHER clean sheet.
Lescott shipped 3 for Villa against Leicester.
That alone tells me it was good business.
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It's just business.
With Lescott, McAulay and Olsson all into their mid thirties the only one who would raise a fee was Lescott, who was also on probably on a far higher wage than the other two, so he went and this lessened the impact on the finances of the Evans fee and his wage.
Evans is much younger , much quicker and a much better user of the ball than any of the them so fair enough in my view.
Exactly. A financial decision not a footballing one. McAuley should have been released instead if Pulis wanted younger blood. He's 3 years older than Lescott. Lescott can also cover LB. Who will play there if Brunt gets injured?
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G-Mac has looked fantastic so far this season.
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Exactly. A financial decision not a footballing one. McAuley should have been released instead if Pulis wanted younger blood. He's 3 years older than Lescott. Lescott can also cover LB. Who will play there if Brunt gets injured?
McClean I would imagine.
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Out of interest what sort of reception will people give him? I'm not expecting anyone to give a round of applause to a Villa player but I don't really think he did much wrong. My understanding is that whilst not exactly forced out we were the ones who initiated his move and it was something he was pressing until we made it clear we were happy for him to go.
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Out of interest what sort of reception will people give him? I'm not expecting anyone to give a round of applause to a Villa player but I don't really think he did much wrong. My understanding is that whilst not exactly forced out we were the ones who initiated his move and it was something he was pressing until we made it clear we were happy for him to go.
For me, one decent year for us is not enough to save an ex-Wolves, current Villa player from getting booed.
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For me, one decent year for us is not enough to save an ex-Wolves, current Villa player from getting booed.
So if he had signed for Leicester or Swansea do you think he would be getting a decent reception?
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I don't think he necessarily warrants booing, but I certainly don't think he should be given applause. Apart from the Wolves/Villa connection, he played for us for one season!!! Hardly warrants warm applause does it!?!
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So if he had signed for Leicester or Swansea do you think he would be getting a decent reception?
Probably better than the one he'll get on Saturday.
He's a Villa fan, who plays for Villa, and used to play for Wolves. Surely no one is actually going to applaud him?!
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Played well for us, gave 100% and was classy in his move by thanking the club and fans on twitter. I'll give him a clap.
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He’ll get no angst from me, always rated him. I’m not going to applaud him as I wouldn’t applaud any of that lot but booing him is petty in my opinion.
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He’ll get no angst from me, always rated him. I’m not going to applaud him as I wouldn’t applaud any of that lot but booing him is petty in my opinion.
Agree with this , always acted with class on and off the pitch too.
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He doesn't deserve booing, it would be incredibly harsh.
He did very well for us last year, always tried his best, left with dignity and was professional until the end.
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Our player of the year and integral to our league position last season, so no booing,
but cannot clap a vile player,
so strictly neutral response is the order of the day (but I ain't going, so makes no odds what i think anyway)
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He doesn't deserve booing, it would be incredibly harsh.
He did very well for us last year, always tried his best, left with dignity and was professional until the end.
Pretty well sums it up for me as well.
Typical modern day footballer though, makes no odds whether he plays for Wulfs, us or Vile, as long as the money is right ???
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Pretty well sums it up for me as well.
Typical modern day footballer though, makes no odds whether he plays for Wulfs, us or Vile, as long as the money is right ???
Well he is a Villa fan...I think he's happy to play for them.
I think he came to us because of the Irvine connection.
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Well he is a Villa fan...I think he's happy to play for them.
I think he came to us because of the Irvine connection.
The ££££ helped his decision massively, at the time I very much doubt villa could match it.
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Well he is a Villa fan...I think he's happy to play for them.
I think he came to us because of the Irvine connection.
I understand that he is a Villa fan and he came through the ranks at Wolves, but if I were in his "boots' there is no way I could play for WBA, Blues or even Walsall in between, out of principle!
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Well he is a Villa fan...I think he's happy to play for them.
I think he came to us because of the Irvine connection.
Yes Irvine was a big factor in Lescott's decision as he knew him at Everton and knew how great a coach he was.
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Well he is a Villa fan...I think he's happy to play for them.
I think he came to us because of the Irvine connection.
Yes Irvine was a big factor in Lescott's decision as he knew him at Everton.
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I think the fact Villa couldn't match our wage offer had a lot to do with it, Lets be honest like most of the others his main motivation is the pound note....ask Everton fans they view him how we view Saido or Odemwingie. Can't fault his performances last season though, well most of them.
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I understand that he is a Villa fan and he came through the ranks at Wolves, but if I were in his "boots' there is no way I could play for WBA, Blues or even Walsall in between, out of principle!
I hate the vile as much as anyone on here, but if they offered me 10k a week for a year to kick a ball around, I'd happily ignore such a throw away principle. So what if a few are upset about it. I'd be in a better financial position than them. No doubt most pro footballers feel the same way. Get it where, and when, you can.
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No doubt most pro footballers feel the same way. Get it where, and when, you can.
I think that's the defining element of being a pro.
Having said that, it would take a serious amount of cash to make me honestly try in a wolves shirt. I once didn't sleep with a girl at uni for being a wolves fan. (in all honesty i wasn't that enthusiastic about her anyway).
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I think that's the defining element of being a pro.
Having said that, it would take a serious amount of cash to make me honestly try in a wolves shirt. I once didn't sleep with a girl at uni for being a wolves fan. (in all honesty i wasn't that enthusiastic about her anyway).
Was it the moustache?
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Was it the moustache?
You know her? :-*
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Was it the moustache?
The extra fingers and toes probably didn't help... :-X
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The extra fingers and toes probably didn't help... :-X
It was her hands dragging on the floor that was the final straw :-X
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I think that's the defining element of being a pro.
Having said that, it would take a serious amount of cash to make me honestly try in a wolves shirt. I once didn't sleep with a girl at uni for being a wolves fan. (in all honesty i wasn't that enthusiastic about her anyway).
http://www.boxofficefootball.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/hgfhfg.jpg
Sure?
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He looked poor today and no doubt will do under Tim Sherwood.
I think a big factor in looking so good for us is that he played under Irvine and Pulis who are both ultra-defensive managers. At 33 he can't play anything but a deep line which is why he will continue to look poor.
It's the same with McAuley and Olsson, if you put them in certain other teams which involve more running, they'd look dire. Instead they look solid with us because of the way we setup to defend.
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His passing was terrible again.
Glad he's gone as we needed new, younger blood.
My only concern is why olly is coming on instead of chester.
I hope it's not because he rate him after seeing in training etc.
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The fact that he shone when he first came here shows how bad our defending was with Olsson in the side.
We have an improvement in that position that shows Lescott's frailties up.
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His passing was terrible again.
Glad he's gone as we needed new, younger blood.
My only concern is why olly is coming on instead of chester.
I hope it's not because he rate him after seeing in training etc.
With Gestede on and Villa getting desperate an aerial bombardment was on the way - we just needed someone to win a couple of headers. That's my take on it
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He looked poor today and no doubt will do under Tim Sherwood.
I think a big factor in looking so good for us is that he played under Irvine and Pulis who are both ultra-defensive managers. At 33 he can't play anything but a deep line which is why he will continue to look poor.
It's the same with McAuley and Olsson, if you put them in certain other teams which involve more running, they'd look dire. Instead they look solid with us because of the way we setup to defend.
I would add Evans to that list also, think he will relish playing a deeper line, certainly looked like it Saturday.
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it won't be long before teams realise putting the ball up in front of our back 4 is ineffective.
Managers soon will set out to turn us around and get behind us down the flanks, thats when Brunt and Dawson will be under greatest pressure, With adequate cover from the wide m-f players we should be ok I hope.
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He looked poor today and no doubt will do under Tim Sherwood.
I think a big factor in looking so good for us is that he played under Irvine and Pulis who are both ultra-defensive managers. At 33 he can't play anything but a deep line which is why he will continue to look poor.
It's the same with McAuley and Olsson, if you put them in certain other teams which involve more running, they'd look dire. Instead they look solid with us because of the way we setup to defend.
This just shows that Pulis knows how to play with the players he has got. You would have thought Tim Sherwood would know that playing a high line wouldn't be good for Lescott. It is either arrogance or stupidity.
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This just shows that Pulis knows how to play with the players he has got. You would have thought Tim Sherwood would know that playing a high line wouldn't be good for Lescott. It is either arrogance or stupidity.
When Tim was lined up to be our manager i wrote that he'd be a disaster as he has a quote out there of something like "I don't do tactics, the lads are proffesionals, they know what they need to do"......
Yet another example of the British management style of "get at em and look busy".
There are students of the game out there who can't get a job, while muppets like that walk into Prem jobs. It's a huge reason as to why the English game is viewed so poorly by th world. Too many people are trying to be Arry Redknapp
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players at the albion must tow the pulis line[I think this is a good thing] ie tactics and training its either his way or the highway,lescott was not happy at asked to be played at left back he was also lacking in training and was often late for sessions,as much as people still dislike berahino its still obvious that he obeys pulis orders and may have fell out with peace but not pulis,lescott fell out with pulis and left,in hindsight getting evans in has worked out better for us as lescotts legs have nearly gone
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Subbed off for Villa at half time to Blues.
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Subbed off for Villa at half time to Blues.
I think we kissed goodbye just at the right time
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I don't think he will be starting too many matches after his last two performances.
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He's got great experience and will help a few of their younger players but he was never going to look as good for them as he did for us as they don't protect their back four as well as we do.
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We knew he would struggle to play more than one game a week last season. Timmy should have known better than to put him into two local derbies within 4 days.
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Don't know if he was trying to save face but Sherwood did say that his plan was for Lescott to only play 45 minutes because he "isn't getting any younger"
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Lescott looked totally useless against Blues and as for Dim Tim as there ever been a manager so full of BS apparently it was part of his tactics to play rubbish first half against Blues!!.
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totall agree slow made a lot of mistakes good riddence to him
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How much did we get for him? Couple of million was it? This was one of those Peace specials, getting good money for players well past their best.
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How much did we get for him? Couple of million was it? This was one of those Peace specials, getting good money for players well past their best.
I know who got the best end of the deal ;D
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I watched it last night and he was really out of sorts, very slow, bad touch and seemed to be a liability! Unfortunately Villa picked up when he went off. Early signs are that we did fantastically well to replace him with Evans...............
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Lescott looked totally useless against Blues and as for Dim Tim as there ever been a manager so full of BS apparently it was part of his tactics to play rubbish first half against Blues!!.
I work with someone who has been on training courses which included Sherwood and he said that he is too 'old school' for modern football. He said there were coaches for semi professional sides who applied more skill regarding tactics than he does for a Prem team.
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Sherwood seems (from both his Villa and Spurs days) a great 'supply teacher' kind of a manager.
Comes in, plays the 'one of the gang' card and seemingly wins everyone over and results improve.
Longer term though, that starts to wear a bit thin and then he's stuck as he's been 'in the gang' and can't then hold the necessary authority over the players.
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Sherwood seems (from both his Villa and Spurs days) a great 'supply teacher' kind of a manager.
Comes in, plays the 'one of the gang' card and seemingly wins everyone over and results improve.
Longer term though, that starts to wear a bit thin and then he's stuck as he's been 'in the gang' and can't then hold the necessary authority over the players.
I was thinking this the other day, let's hope he stays long enough to send them down.
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Sherwood seems (from both his Villa and Spurs days) a great 'supply teacher' kind of a manager.
Comes in, plays the 'one of the gang' card and seemingly wins everyone over and results improve.
Longer term though, that starts to wear a bit thin and then he's stuck as he's been 'in the gang' and can't then hold the necessary authority over the players.
you are right, can only be their mate till you have to really manage them, then all your authority has gone
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http://www.villatalk.com/topic/13849-joleon-lescott/?page=25
This thread makes great reading :P
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they don't seem very happy with Lescott lol
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http://www.villatalk.com/topic/13849-joleon-lescott/?page=25
This thread makes great reading :P
We got rid of him and got Jonny Evans. Looking a good bit of business :D
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Yeah I'd be feeling quite smug about this if we hadn't been mugged by L'pool in the Lambert deal. Lescott was more than decent for us last year but the slide is quite evident now, it always happens to players at the end of their careers the trick is not to be employing them when it does.
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Yeah I'd be feeling quite smug about this if we hadn't been mugged by L'pool in the Lambert deal. Lescott was more than decent for us last year but the slide is quite evident now, it always happens to players at the end of their careers the trick is not to be employing them when it does.
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Unlike Lescott, Lambert was never quick, I've been surprised how awful he has been so far but I think he could improve and contribute. He put in a great ball for Rondon against Stoke. Clutching at straws. To think Lescott was our player of the season last year. In his defence I think Villa play a higher line and give their defenders much less protection.
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Unlike Lescott, Lambert was never quick, I've been surprised how awful he has been so far but I think he could improve and contribute. He put in a great ball for Rondon against Stoke. Clutching at straws. To think Lescott was our player of the season last year. In his defence I think Villa play a higher line and give their defenders much less protection.
Definitely, you don't just become a bad player over-night, at least with Lambert he was clearly poor for a good season before coming here. I believe Lescott would still look good with our defence, but then again we don't have a clown of a manager.
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totall agree slow made a lot of mistakes good riddence to him
Good riddance is very harsh. He was good last season. We may have let him go at the right time but I don't think we should be disresepectful of the time he had with us.
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Good riddance is very harsh. He was good last season. We may have let him go at the right time but I don't think we should be disresepectful of the time he had with us.
Too much sense.
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Why are we still talking about him?
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Why are we still talking about him?
Because he could have a very big part in the villa going down :D.
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Lescott is a good player in the right system.
A defensive system such as ours suited him. In Villa's more open style, he'll get found out.
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I think some people are being a bit kind to him. He started to struggle towards the end of last season so not a massive surprise he has struggled at Villa so far IMO. Take Leicester's 3rd goal at the end of last season for example, I know GMac cocked up but Lescott got nowhere Vardy.
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I think some people are being a bit kind to him. He started to struggle towards the end of last season so not a massive surprise he has struggled at Villa so far IMO. Take Leicester's 3rd goal at the end of last season for example, I know GMac cocked up but Lescott got nowhere Vardy.
Not many centre halves would to be honest he is rapid!
As for Lescott I appreciate him for last season, he was player of the year as voted for and deserves a bit more respect.
However, it looks like his legs have gone and this is why Pulis had no problem letting him go
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DEAL DONE: Third-tier Spanish side Racing Murcia have signed Joleon Lescott. The former Man City defender has agreed to play in their Copa del Rey tie against Levante. (Source: @racingmurciafc)
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DEAL DONE: Third-tier Spanish side Racing Murcia have signed Joleon Lescott. The former Man City defender has agreed to play in their Copa del Rey tie against Levante. (Source: @racingmurciafc)
How old is he now I swear he is a pundit on 5 live sometimes
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Ex-player playing elsewhere, moved to General Football.