[johnny Cash]

Why is he so special?

He is a premier league footballer, and as such is in a more privileged position than most. That is exactly what makes him so special.

With his privileged position comes the ability to make decisions that others cannot. How Watford address it, is for Watford and Deeney, as it would be for the employer or any key worker who decided not to go to work (many of whom would if they were in a position to).

 

[Atomic]

He is a premier league footballer, and as such is in a more privileged position than most. That is exactly what makes him so special.

With his privileged position comes the ability to make decisions that others cannot. How Watford address it, is for Watford and Deeney, as it would be for the employer or any key worker who decided not to go to work (many of whom would if they were in a position to).

He's an employee just like anyone else. None of them are any better than anyone else.

[boinging_along]

He's an employee just like anyone else. None of them are any better than anyone else.

So why are you treating him like he SHOULD be treated differently?  Or are you saying that EVERYONE should go back to work right now?

[Atomic]

So why are you treating him like he SHOULD be treated differently?  Or are you saying that EVERYONE should go back to work right now?

What are you talking about?

It's not difficult .....

[TheJacko2000]

So why are you treating him like he SHOULD be treated differently?  Or are you saying that EVERYONE should go back to work right now?

He can't work from home, so yes he should be back at work.

[boinging_along]

What are you talking about?

It's not difficult .....

You've just said that he should be treated the same as every other employee right?  But you're also insisting he should go back to work even though he feels it's not safe?  So is that your advice for everyone?  Or are you treating Deeney differently to, say, a brickie who isn't going to work because his child is in the at risk group?

[boinging_along]

He can't work from home, so yes he should be back at work.

Not the government advice.

[TheJacko2000]

Not the government advice.

Well it is, so let's leave it there.

[boinging_along]

The advice is if it is safe to do so.  Deeney doesn't think it is safe - and he has a point.  I don't see how anyone could support forcing someone back to work who is seriously worried about the health of their child.

Oh, and also this...

"There were six positive tests for coronavirus across three Premier League clubs on Sunday and Monday, as the top flight prepares to resume in June."

[TheJacko2000]

The advice is if it is safe to do so.  Deeney doesn't think it is safe - and he has a point.  I don't see how anyone could support forcing someone back to work who is seriously worried about the health of their child.

Oh, and also this...

"There were six positive tests for coronavirus across three Premier League clubs on Sunday and Monday, as the top flight prepares to resume in June."

He's returning to one of the safest work environments in the world.


The guidance does not say he shouldn't go to work, it says he should report Watford FC to the local authority or the HSE if he has any concerns about safety in the workplace.

[MarkW]

We've already got one Albion-related Covid thread, and another one on top of that. We don't need a third.

Pack it in

[AlbionFan]

Was it the fact that we had a chairman who managed to sell the club for four times its real value? or was that more recent?

No, not quite, this was achieved on the field of play. But I'm guessing you know that already 

[liverbaggie]

Hey atomic,I think you need to really calm down mate,if you are on the  front line, you seem to be going completely over the top about Seeley.
Its his personal choice not to work as is your decision is too work.
Perhaps,with respect you should question your own character?

[gerry m]

Hey atomic,I think you need to really calm down mate,if you are on the  front line, you seem to be going completely over the top about Seeley.
Its his personal choice not to work as is your decision is too work.
Perhaps,with respect you should question your own character?

Just come on this this thread. Sorry mate who is Seeley?

[wbarenno]

He's returning to one of the safest work environments in the world.


The guidance does not say he shouldn't go to work, it says he should report Watford FC to the local authority or the HSE if he has any concerns about safety in the workplace.

This one million percent , footballers are being protected more then any other industry I know of. This virus could be with us for years and years does that mean football ceases to exist? Or any other industry for that matter.

It’s at the point now we’re if your healthy and of a certain age , you’ve got to suck it up , adapt and get on with life otherwise life is just going to pass you by.

Adapt is the key word , we’ve all got to do it now the best we can !

[liverbaggie]

I meant Seeley mate.
Footballers might be but what about their families?

[LiamTheBaggie]

Just come on this this thread. Sorry mate who is Seeley?

He was referring to Troy Deeney

[LiamTheBaggie]

This one million percent , footballers are being protected more then any other industry I know of. This virus could be with us for years and years does that mean football ceases to exist? Or any other industry for that matter.

It’s at the point now we’re if your healthy and of a certain age , you’ve got to suck it up , adapt and get on with life otherwise life is just going to pass you by.

Adapt is the key word , we’ve all got to do it now the best we can !

Bang on mate.

I look forward to you adapting by offering to buy me a pint the first weekend the pubs open 

I would have more weight to the Deeney argument had there been a considerable number more affected by Covid. 6 sounds pretty okay to be honest.

If players do not wish to play then that’s fine - someone else can play instead.

My overall feeling though is that the season should have been voided weeks ago.

[boinging_along]

This one million percent , footballers are being protected more then any other industry I know of. This virus could be with us for years and years does that mean football ceases to exist? Or any other industry for that matter.

It’s at the point now we’re if your healthy and of a certain age , you’ve got to suck it up , adapt and get on with life otherwise life is just going to pass you by.

Adapt is the key word , we’ve all got to do it now the best we can !

It's not about a footballer catching it, it's about who they pass it onto.  How would you feel if you got ill at work, doing a job that didn't need doing, then came home and passed it onto someone vulnerable?

[BB74]

It's not about a footballer catching it, it's about who they pass it onto.  How would you feel if you got ill at work, doing a job that didn't need doing, then came home and passed it onto someone vulnerable?

Should footballers be put on furlough then? I think so.

[TheJacko2000]

It's not about a footballer catching it, it's about who they pass it onto.  How would you feel if you got ill at work, doing a job that didn't need doing, then came home and passed it onto someone vulnerable?

The same as millions of others up and down the country. Critical workers are now not the only people expected at work.

[boinging_along]

Should footballers be put on furlough then? I think so.

Possibly, its supposed to be used as an alternative to laying staff off.  You'd also be unable to get your players to follow a club regimented fitness routine.  it's entirely down to the club.

[boinging_along]

The same as millions of others up and down the country. Critical workers are now not the only people expected at work.

And, just like millions of people up and down the country, they can talk to their employers about the risks of them going back and how it would effect their family.

I am literally arguing they should be treated the same as other employees up and down the country.  We shouldn't force anyone to work if it puts themselves or their loved ones at risk.  It's even worse when we are asking them to do something as unimportant as football

[TheJacko2000]

And, just like millions of people up and down the country, they can talk to their employers about the risks of them going back and how it would effect their family.

I am literally arguing they should be treated the same as other employees up and down the country.  We shouldn't force anyone to work if it puts themselves or their loved ones at risk.

It's not up to the individual to decide if this is the case. If it was the hospitals would be full of bodies but empty of staff.

[boinging_along]

So if someone lives with someone in a high risk category you tjink they should be forced back into work?