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Title: 3 Nov 2018 Hull City 1 Albion 0
Post by: OldburyWBA on October 23, 2018, 12:15:15 AM
Hull City v West Bromwich Albion

Saturday 3rd November 2018 15.00pm

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Title: In Game Chat
Post by: OldburyWBA on October 23, 2018, 12:16:44 AM
Hull City v West Bromwich Albion

Saturday 3rd November 2018 15.00pm

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Title: Pre Match Chat
Post by: OldburyWBA on October 23, 2018, 12:17:16 AM
Hull City v West Bromwich Albion

Saturday 3rd November 2018 15.00pm

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Title: Ticket Info & Requests
Post by: OldburyWBA on October 23, 2018, 12:22:51 AM
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Title: Re: Ticket Info & Requests
Post by: leeiswba on October 24, 2018, 03:48:50 PM
Absolute joke there are no concession tickets for this
Title: Team
Post by: Atomic on October 28, 2018, 01:35:05 AM
I know this won't happen but:


                                         Johnstone

Mears                   Dawson                         Hegazi                        Gibbs

                   Livermore         Barry                           Field

        Phillips                         Sako                                       Barnes


Subs: Myhill, Adarabioyo, Townsend, Morrison, Rodriguez, Gayle, Edwards.



PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE.

No Brunt, no Robson - Kanu, no Bartley - oh he's suspended - YAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!
Title: Re: Team
Post by: beechyboy90 on October 28, 2018, 01:34:45 AM
I know this won't happen but:


                                         Johnstone

Mears                   Dawson                         Hegazi                        Gibbs

                   Livermore         Barry                           Field

        Phillips                         Sako                                       Barnes


Subs: Myhill, Adarabioyo, Townsend, Morrison, Rodriguez, Gayle, Edwards.



PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE.

No Brunt, no Robson - Kanu, no Bartley - oh he's suspended - YAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!

Would rather Dawson at rb and hope Hegazi fit to play centre back.
Love to see the 433 but am resigned to seeing us play 3412. However with Bartley suspended and Hegazi & Barry injured we may be forced to go to a back 4 unless he throws field in there like we have done in the cup games
Title: Re: Team
Post by: Atomic on October 28, 2018, 01:37:00 AM
Would rather Dawson at rb and hope Hegazi fit to play centre back.
Love to see the 433 but am resigned to seeing us play 3412. However with Bartley suspended and Hegazi & Barry injured we may be forced to go to a back 4 unless he throws field in there like we have done in the cup games


Hegazi will be fit. From what I've heard he was close yesterday.
Title: Re: Team
Post by: MICKYMEL on October 28, 2018, 09:04:56 AM
               Johnstone

Dawson. Tosin.  Hegazi.    Gibbs


       Mozza.      Livermore
Phillips                             Sako

              Barnes
                     Gayle
Title: Re: Team
Post by: Dexy on October 28, 2018, 09:55:00 AM
               Johnstone

Dawson. Tosin.  Hegazi.    Gibbs


       Mozza.      Livermore
Phillips                             Sako

              Barnes
                     Gayle
Would love that .
Title: Re: Ticket Info & Requests
Post by: Dan87uk on October 28, 2018, 12:51:13 PM
I have 1 spare ticket for sale if anyone is interested - face value of course.

PM me if interested.
Title: Re: Team
Post by: Mister AT on October 29, 2018, 09:17:41 AM
Dependant on how the injuries shape up, this is what I would like to see:

Johnstone

Dawson
Hegazi
Tosin
Gibbs

Livermore
Morrison

Rodriguez
Barnes
Brunt/Sako

Gayle


What I expect to see:

Johnstone

Dawson
Hegazi
Tosin

Phillips
Brunt
Livermore
Barnes
Gibbs/Townsend

Rodriguez
Gayle/HRK/Sako
Title: Re: Team
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on October 29, 2018, 09:43:12 AM
I wouldn't even put Robson-Kanu on the bench.
Otherwise, it gives Darren a chance to shoehorn him in.
Title: Re: Team
Post by: Hull Baggie on October 29, 2018, 11:04:43 AM
Dependant on how the injuries shape up, this is what I would like to see:

Johnstone

Dawson
Hegazi
Tosin
Gibbs

Livermore
Morrison

Rodriguez
Barnes
Brunt/Sako

Gayle


What I expect to see:

Johnstone

Dawson
Hegazi
Tosin

Phillips
Brunt
Livermore
Barnes
Gibbs/Townsend

Rodriguez
Gayle/HRK/Sako

think you might well be right. I'd definitely go to a 4-2-3-1 formation.

Subs I'd have: Myhill,mears, Brunt, Barry/Hoolahan, Field,  Burke, Edwards
Title: Re: Ticket Info & Requests
Post by: Hull Baggie on October 29, 2018, 11:17:41 AM
Blocks N6 & N7 have sold out, 2 seats left in N5 and 93 left in E1. E2 & E3 still to go on sale.
Title: Re: Team
Post by: baggiebof on October 29, 2018, 12:19:19 PM
I think if everyone was fit, this would be my starting lineup and bench currently. I think the 3421 will suit us more in terms of making us harder to play through and also give us more outlets on the ball. I've advocated Barry on the left hand side of the back three for a while now so would like to see that to help us play out from the back.

Johnstone

Dawson
Hegazi
Barry

Phillips
Livermore
Field
Gibbs

Morrison
Barnes

Gayle

Myhill, Adarabioyo, Mears, Brunt, Sako, Hoolahan, Rodriguez
Title: Re: Team
Post by: TheJacko2000 on October 29, 2018, 07:16:03 PM
Johnstone


Adarabioyo
Dawson
Hegazi


Phillips
Livermore
Morrison
Brunt


Hoolahan
Sako


Gayle
Title: Re: Team
Post by: timdon on October 29, 2018, 07:33:16 PM
Johnstone


Adarabioyo
Dawson
Hegazi


Phillips
Livermore
Morrison
Brunt


Sako


Gayle
Nah, I've never liked this only playing with 10 men system.
Title: Re: Team
Post by: TheJacko2000 on October 29, 2018, 07:50:47 PM
Nah, I've never liked this only playing with 10 men system.


Oops edited. Knew I should have stuck to my graphic...
Title: Re: Team
Post by: hardtobeat on October 29, 2018, 09:27:22 PM
Johnstone


Adarabioyo
Dawson
Hegazi


Phillips
Livermore
Morrison
Brunt


Hoolahan
Sako


Gayle

Brunt hasnt the legs to p!ay wing back
Title: Match Officials
Post by: Hull Baggie on October 30, 2018, 08:01:35 AM
Referee: Keith Stroud
Assistant Referee: Nick Greenhalgh
Assistant Referee: James Mainwaring
Fourth Official: Jeremy Simpson
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: Hull Baggie on October 30, 2018, 10:06:10 AM
Looking forward to a lie in, a good breakfast and a nice stroll to the ground! Be nice to leave the car at home for once!

We really need to a good solid performance (and a win) to set us up for the Leeds game.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: Adamstv on October 30, 2018, 07:25:21 PM
Looking forward to a lie in, a good breakfast and a nice stroll to the ground! Be nice to leave the car at home for once!

We really need to a good solid performance (and a win) to set us up for the Leeds game.

Any pubs that you can recommend? We arrive around 11.00am by train.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: beechyboy90 on October 30, 2018, 11:12:57 PM
Looking forward to a lie in, a good breakfast and a nice stroll to the ground! Be nice to leave the car at home for once!

We really need to a good solid performance (and a win) to set us up for the Leeds game.

Due to some of the fixtures coming up at home; Leeds Brentford villa etc we really need to beat hull and Ipswich. Our abysmal away form puts extra pressure on us at home, this and the fact we were already creaking didn't help us v derby or Blackburn.

Manager hopefully has learned something from the past week be it with his starting tactics/formation or if he is going to persist with the current approach that he needs to fix his current "best 11" and add some va va voom to his subs.

Keeping the faith as ever come on you baggies
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: Hull Baggie on October 31, 2018, 08:23:46 AM
Any pubs that you can recommend? We arrive around 11.00am by train.

I don't live at that end of town, I live about 3 miles away in East Hull. However, there is a 'spoons called the Humber Pilot about 5 mins walk from the train station, the stadium is about a 30 minute walk from there too. There are plenty of other pubs in the town centre though, not sure what they'll be like if you're wearing colours though.

Avoid the Tigers Lair on Anlaby Road unless you want to mix with racists or dickhead pretend "lads", I think it's strictly home fans only anyway.
 If you aren't wearing colours, then you can always get a taxi to Princes Avenue which has a number of bars/bistros but be prepared to pay about £4 a pint. Next to the ground is Walton St Working men's club which has good cheap beer and is away fan friendly (I think).

Also in the city centre is a pub called The Rugby Tavern which is a Samuel Smith pub, it's cheap (about £2 a pint!), the beer is excellent and it's a proper pub (no jukebox and loads of old blokes playing dominoes!). It's behind the BBC building in Queens Gardens (just ask a local).



Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: Adamstv on October 31, 2018, 07:09:12 PM
I don't live at that end of town, I live about 3 miles away in East Hull. However, there is a 'spoons called the Humber Pilot about 5 mins walk from the train station, the stadium is about a 30 minute walk from there too. There are plenty of other pubs in the town centre though, not sure what they'll be like if you're wearing colours though.

Avoid the Tigers Lair on Anlaby Road unless you want to mix with racists or dickhead pretend "lads", I think it's strictly home fans only anyway.
 If you aren't wearing colours, then you can always get a taxi to Princes Avenue which has a number of bars/bistros but be prepared to pay about £4 a pint. Next to the ground is Walton St Working men's club which has good cheap beer and is away fan friendly (I think).

Also in the city centre is a pub called The Rugby Tavern which is a Samuel Smith pub, it's cheap (about £2 a pint!), the beer is excellent and it's a proper pub (no jukebox and loads of old blokes playing dominoes!). It's behind the BBC building in Queens Gardens (just ask a local).

Thanks Hullbaggie. Plenty of drink for thought👍
Title: Re: Team
Post by: paulosull on November 01, 2018, 01:14:35 AM
Nah, I've never liked this only playing with 10 men system.
when HRK is on the pitch we usually play with ten men.
Title: Re: Ticket Info & Requests
Post by: Dan87uk on November 01, 2018, 08:44:13 AM
I have 1 spare ticket for sale if anyone is interested - face value of course.

PM me if interested.

Any takers? It's in Block N6. ;D

Would rather the ticket not go to waste if possible :)
Title: Re: Team
Post by: Hull Baggie on November 01, 2018, 09:20:34 AM
If we have the same players missing through injury as last week coupled with Bartley's suspension
I'd go with:

                                                               Johnstone

                                     Dawson                Barry                    Adabarioyo 


                         Phillips                  Livermore              Morrison              Townsend

                                                                   Barnes

                                                      Rodriguez            Sako
   

 Subs: Myhill, Mears, Brunt, Hoolahan, Field, Edwards, Burke.     
Title: Re: Ticket Info & Requests
Post by: Hull Baggie on November 01, 2018, 09:26:53 AM
Weirdly N6 is showing as having 5 seats remaining when it was sold out on Monday...must be returns!

NE has 12 tickets left, E1 has 21 tickets and E2 is now on sale with 128 remaining.

I had a look on the Hull City website and they haven't sold too many with most parts of the ground having plenty of tickets for sale.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: Hull Baggie on November 01, 2018, 09:29:37 AM
Thanks Hullbaggie. Plenty of drink for thought👍

No worries, I forgot to say that Princes Avenue is about a 20 min walk from the ground too, it's where a lot of home supporters drink and is very popular on a Saturday evening for drinking/dining if you or anyone else is staying over.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: leeiswba on November 01, 2018, 10:12:16 AM
No worries, I forgot to say that Princes Avenue is about a 20 min walk from the ground too, it's where a lot of home supporters drink and is very popular on a Saturday evening for drinking/dining if you or anyone else is staying over.

Whats the parking like around there mate?
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: Hull Baggie on November 01, 2018, 12:00:52 PM
Whats the parking like around there mate?

As far as I'm aware Princes Avenue has limited free parking bays, also you can park on the road but again space is limited. A lot of the streets off it are either double yellow or very heavily used by residents.

I'm not sure if you can park on SpringBank West or even Chanterlands Avenue. If you can, it should be free but there might be a time limit.
A lot of the streets off Anlaby Road are resident only parking, but St Georges road might have space or The Boulevard, both can be reached by either Anlaby Rd or Hessle Rd and are about 10/15 min walk to the ground.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: Albionic on November 01, 2018, 12:29:13 PM
Last time I went the 1970's / 80's pub right by the ground (Brickmakers??) was great before the game (quality staff / average beer), but got pretty larrey after the game.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: Hull Baggie on November 02, 2018, 09:37:55 AM
Last time I went the 1970's / 80's pub right by the ground (Brickmakers??) was great before the game (quality staff / average beer), but got pretty larrey after the game.

Brickmakers Arms is still open , I'd totally forgot about that one!

 Not sure what it's like for away fans though.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: Dexy on November 02, 2018, 09:47:32 AM
Can't think of the name but the pub near the park next to the ground is one to avoid , right on the road near some traffic lights.
Had a sign out saying away fans welcome then it got pretty nasty in there a few years back if i recall right.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: Hull Baggie on November 02, 2018, 09:54:29 AM
Can't think of the name but the pub near the park next to the ground is one to avoid , right on the road near some traffic lights.
Had a sign out saying away fans welcome then it got pretty nasty in there a few years back if i recall right.

I think you mean the George or St George (something like that)..it's now closed!
 It did indeed have a sign welcoming away fans but was always best avoided by away fans.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: SmethDan on November 02, 2018, 11:13:52 AM
I think you mean the George or St George (something like that)..it's now closed!
 It did indeed have a sign welcoming away fans but was always best avoided by away fans.

Visited the George a couple of times over the years with no problems whatsoever.

It was closed the last time I went there in 2016.

Have they knocked it down yet?

We ended up in the New Walton Club.

It was OK in there.
Title: Re: Ticket Info & Requests
Post by: SmethDan on November 02, 2018, 11:17:41 AM
Weirdly N6 is showing as having 5 seats remaining when it was sold out on Monday...must be returns!

NE has 12 tickets left, E1 has 21 tickets and E2 is now on sale with 128 remaining.

I had a look on the Hull City website and they haven't sold too many with most parts of the ground having plenty of tickets for sale.

The servers are often all over the place on away allocations and availability.

I've pretty much stopped paying attention to the site once my tickets are ordered now.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: Hull Baggie on November 02, 2018, 12:06:34 PM
Visited the George a couple of times over the years with no problems whatsoever.

It was closed the last time I went there in 2016.

Have they knocked it down yet?

We ended up in the New Walton Club.

It was OK in there.

As far as I'm aware the George is still standing.
The New Walton club would be where I'd go if I wasn't a local resident, never been in personally but hear that the beer is good and cheap!
Title: Re: Team
Post by: Hull Baggie on November 02, 2018, 12:09:22 PM
Both Hegazi and Gibbs fit for tomorrow; assessing Gayle and Barry.

https://www.wba.co.uk/news/2018/november/baggies-handed-double-boost/
Title: Re: Team
Post by: baggiebof on November 02, 2018, 12:54:53 PM

Johnstone

Dawson
Hegazi
Barry

Phillips
Livermore
Field
Gibbs

Morrison
Barnes

Gayle

Myhill, Adarabioyo, Mears, Brunt, Sako, Hoolahan, Rodriguez

In light of the team news (looks like Gayle and Barry are out), I'd go:

Johnstone

Dawson
Hegazi
Adarabioyo

Phillips
Livermore
Field
Gibbs

Morrison
Barnes

Rodriguez

Myhill, Mears, Brunt, Sako, Hoolahan, Burke, Robson-Kanu

Its important that Rodriguez threatens in behind to make more space for the number 10s to operate in.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: Hull Baggie on November 02, 2018, 02:49:19 PM
Travel updates for those driving:
https://www.wba.co.uk/news/2018/november/important-traffic-information---hull-city/
Title: Re: Team
Post by: Fritzl Palace on November 02, 2018, 03:52:50 PM
I can take no more 3 at the back. Time to end the experiment and play to our strengths...

(https://i.imgur.com/4YeUX3F.jpg)
Title: Re: Team
Post by: Dexy on November 02, 2018, 04:16:48 PM
I can take no more 3 at the back. Time to end the experiment and play to our strengths...

(https://i.imgur.com/4YeUX3F.jpg)
System wise I fully agree , no issue trying something else but the 3 gets worse not better
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: Dexy on November 02, 2018, 04:18:35 PM
Visited the George a couple of times over the years with no problems whatsoever.

It was closed the last time I went there in 2016.

Have they knocked it down yet?

We ended up in the New Walton Club.

It was OK in there.
From memory it was after the match , may have been that freezing day under Irvine.
Match wise I can only see a struggle if its 3 at the back again.
Title: Re: Team
Post by: zippyandbungle on November 02, 2018, 06:26:07 PM
                        Myhill
Dawson.   Tosin.      Hegazi.    Gibbs

             Livermore.  Morrison
  Phillips.      Barnes.      Sako/Townsend

                     Rodriguez


Deffo require Edwards on the bench and if Gayle is fit he starts for rodriguez
Title: Re: Team
Post by: frazzle on November 02, 2018, 06:58:15 PM
                        Myhill
Dawson.   Tosin.      Hegazi.    Gibbs

             Livermore.  Morrison
  Phillips.      Barnes.      Sako/Townsend

                     Rodriguez


Deffo require Edwards on the bench and if Gayle is fit he starts for rodriguez

Like that but wish we had a right back.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: mank baggie on November 02, 2018, 07:30:19 PM
1-1 bore draw me thinks
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on November 02, 2018, 08:17:52 PM
1-1 bore draw me thinks
Nah..
We will be under the cosh losing 2  or 3-0 And Darren will shoehorn HRK in to replace a proper forward, to watch out the rest of the match.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: crazedwbafan18 on November 03, 2018, 01:18:19 AM
Nah..
We will be under the cosh losing 2  or 3-0 And Darren will shoehorn HRK in to replace a proper forward, to watch out the rest of the match.
Honestly... God help us if we can only get 1 point from 12. 2-1 win to us, gayle and Morrison to score
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: Fritzl Palace on November 03, 2018, 08:31:16 AM
We have to beat these. They are truly awful
Title: Re: Ticket Info & Requests
Post by: Dan87uk on November 03, 2018, 09:03:08 AM
Last chance on my spare ticket :)

Taking it to the Hawthorns with me for when I grab the coach just in case...
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: Dan87uk on November 03, 2018, 01:50:43 PM
In "The Boot Room" not far from the stadium, seems a 50/50 split og home and away fans.

Managed to sell my spare ticket in here too!

Think its going to be a topsy turvey game. BTTS, WBA win! 
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: royhan on November 03, 2018, 02:06:48 PM
Gayle and Bartley are not in today’s squas
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: east-stand-nick on November 03, 2018, 02:08:53 PM
Gayle and Bartley are not in today’s squas

Bartley is suspended isn't he?
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: frazzle on November 03, 2018, 02:11:51 PM
Disappointing to see brunt start again. It should be Morrison next to Livermore in my view. Brunt is part of the reason the back 3 has been shakey.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: VANDERLEI on November 03, 2018, 02:12:55 PM
Bartley is suspended isn't he?

Yes. Praise the lord!
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: royhan on November 03, 2018, 02:15:53 PM
Yes, Bartley is suspended. The starting line up is: (no particular order)
Johnstone, Morrison, Hegazi, Phillips, Adararaioyo, Brunt, Townsend, Barnes, Phillips, Rodriguez, Dawson.


Subs: Myhill, Robson-Kanu, Mears, Sako, Burke, Hoolahan, Field
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: caravanc58 on November 03, 2018, 02:16:37 PM
Rodriguez as the lone striker, could be a 3421 line up.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: tuamigos on November 03, 2018, 02:20:08 PM
Gayle and Bartley are not in today’s squas

Considerably more concerned about one than the other
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: caravanc58 on November 03, 2018, 02:21:32 PM
Yes, Bartley is suspended. The starting line up is: (no particular order)
Johnstone, Morrison, Hegazi, Phillips, Adararaioyo, Brunt, Townsend, Barnes, Phillips, Rodriguez, Dawson.


Subs: Myhill, Robson-Kanu, Mears, Sako, Burke, Hoolahan, Field
take one Phillips away and replace with Livermore.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: barnestormer on November 03, 2018, 02:22:31 PM
Moore's a joke manager with that line up against a side struggling like hull.is it 6 across the back?
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: frazzle on November 03, 2018, 02:27:20 PM
Moore's a joke manager with that line up against a side struggling like hull.is it 6 across the back?

Where on earth do you get that from? Have you seen our formation in any other games this season? Your comment is a joke.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: TheJacko2000 on November 03, 2018, 02:34:11 PM
The extra body in midfield is long overdue. Well done Darren.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on November 03, 2018, 02:35:08 PM
Moore's a joke manager with that line up against a side struggling like hull.is it 6 across the back?

Since when have we ever played 6 at the back under Moore?

It is quite clearly 3 at the back, with an extra body in midfield
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: barnestormer on November 03, 2018, 02:42:53 PM
Even 5 in midfield is a joke.Moore is s hit scared of losing and playing for a draw
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: Hunnington Baggie on November 03, 2018, 02:52:54 PM
Even 5 in midfield is a joke.Moore is s hit scared of losing and playing for a draw
id love to know what the correct answer is, from the players available and our performances away from home so far the extra man could be really useful.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: paulosull on November 03, 2018, 02:54:53 PM
Brunt in the middle says it all for me, Moore clueless
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: Fritzl Palace on November 03, 2018, 02:56:53 PM
Pleased with the extra man in midfield, but it is a shame that it has taken an injury to Gayle to force Moore into doing it...

Still not happy with three at the back but pleased Bartley is suspended.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: frazzle on November 03, 2018, 02:57:32 PM
Even 5 in midfield is a joke.Moore is s hit scared of losing and playing for a draw

So firstly you are moaning about 6 at the back when the only person in the country who thinks we are playing 6 is you. Then you moan about 5 in midfield when you still don't know how we are lining up.

I think it's clear that you just want to have a moan. Maybe wait until we see how they start the game, then have a good moan about it then as I suspect it doesn't matter what he does, you'll enjoy having a good moan.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: alex1 on November 03, 2018, 02:58:26 PM
Gayle and Gibbs big absences... We will miss them both.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on November 03, 2018, 03:10:52 PM
They should have scored...Free player hit the underside of the bar.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: koren on November 03, 2018, 03:12:14 PM
Hull have two close chances already.
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Post by: geoff on November 03, 2018, 03:13:52 PM
thanks for the updates lads is the game on the radio other than the black country dab
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: BaggieBoy04 on November 03, 2018, 03:14:26 PM
Is it on WM and can I listen to it online if it is my TV broke
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: boinging_along on November 03, 2018, 03:14:30 PM
3 good chances.  We've had the ball a fair bit but made no progress then when we concede possession we are giving away chances.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: geoff on November 03, 2018, 03:15:09 PM
cheers mukka
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: boinging_along on November 03, 2018, 03:16:05 PM
Brunt gave the ball away cheaply, turned down an easy ball on his left foot to come inside, then gave Livermore a waaaay too short pass.
We ended up with a good counterattack, poor effort from J-Rod.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Pie on November 03, 2018, 03:21:11 PM
Listening on radio, sounds like the same old story so far.

Opposition had a few good chances already.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: baggie82 on November 03, 2018, 03:22:29 PM
Defending comical as usual
Brunt giving the ball away and looking clueless
Unable to string a few passes together
J-Rod looks like he's asleep
Hull keeper untroubled
Good news - Hull are also awful
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: boinging_along on November 03, 2018, 03:22:32 PM
Morrison just missed a good chance, time and space on the ball just outside the box but high and wide.  Good work from Hegazi and J-Rod in the build up.
Title: Re: Pre Match Chat
Post by: wodenson46 on November 03, 2018, 03:23:57 PM
Pleased with the extra man in midfield, but it is a shame that it has taken an injury to Gayle to force Moore into doing it...

Still not happy with three at the back but pleased Bartley is suspended.
Extra man in midfield would be useful, but Livermore Brunt and Morrison together don't make more than one. Need passing and vision in the middleto take and use the ball as well as the ability to get forward in support, and able to run back at speed to tackle or cover. You cannot have this with the old men we use.
Fully agree about Bartley
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: wodenson46 on November 03, 2018, 03:35:53 PM
Weak ineffective midfield who do not appear to be able to pass water or make space to take the ball. Scared or couldn't care less defenders. Two of whom once looked ok in the prem and a striker who has never been confident he can score (probably with good reason). How are we expecting anything from this lot? about the only thing they are good at is giving the opposition the ball and tryimg to make them look good. It becomes more apparent every match that these players cannot or will not play the way the management team weant them to. The solution must be to play some of the others at any age who might just be able to do a better job. Please Mr Moore give em a go and save me from having to watch this dross from experienced players
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: maccbaggie on November 03, 2018, 03:37:38 PM
3 at the back doesn't work for us.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: boinging_along on November 03, 2018, 03:37:47 PM
Brunt injured, Field coming on.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: baggie82 on November 03, 2018, 03:38:05 PM
Weak ineffective midfield who do not appear to be able to pass water or make space to take the ball. Scared or couldn't care less defenders. Two of whom once looked ok in the prem and a striker who has never been confident he can score (probably with good reason). How are we expecting anything from this lot? about the only thing they are good at is giving the opposition the ball and tryimg to make them look good. It becomes more apparent every match that these players cannot or will not play the way the management team weant them to. The solution must be to play some of the others at any age who might just be able to do a better job. Please Mr Moore give em a go and save me from having to watch this dross from experienced players

Well said. All of our hopes are on Gayle to score enough to get us into the top six. Good news. Brunt off injured hamstring. Sam Field coming on.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: frazzle on November 03, 2018, 03:38:45 PM
Probably not the right thing to say but Brunt being injured probably strengthens the team. Come on Sam.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: boinging_along on November 03, 2018, 03:39:03 PM
Weak ineffective midfield who do not appear to be able to pass water or make space to take the ball. Scared or couldn't care less defenders. Two of whom once looked ok in the prem and a striker who has never been confident he can score (probably with good reason). How are we expecting anything from this lot? about the only thing they are good at is giving the opposition the ball and tryimg to make them look good. It becomes more apparent every match that these players cannot or will not play the way the management team weant them to. The solution must be to play some of the others at any age who might just be able to do a better job. Please Mr Moore give em a go and save me from having to watch this dross from experienced players

I think you're being harsh on Livermore.  He's dropping in and looking for the ball but Brunt is nowhere to be seen most of the time so ends up surrounded by Hull players.  What is he supposed to do there?  All he can do is lay it back to the defence and look for the ball again.  He's covered a lot of ground in midfield so far trying to get things moving.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: paulosull on November 03, 2018, 03:40:42 PM
Moore s hand being forced with Field replacing the injured and invective Brunt
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: wodenson46 on November 03, 2018, 03:41:21 PM

Not sure 15 at the back would help this lot. What skills they may have had have long since been lost, and can't be covered by effort.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Throstletown on November 03, 2018, 03:43:20 PM
goal Hull
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: gavinrussell on November 03, 2018, 03:43:53 PM
1-0..been coming...
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: baggie82 on November 03, 2018, 03:43:56 PM
1-0 down, shocking defending as usual. Can't deal with pretty much any attacks in and around our box and awful when we have possession. Wheels are falling off without Gayle to paper over the cracks.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Pie on November 03, 2018, 03:44:05 PM
Sounds like more shocking defending
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: koren on November 03, 2018, 03:44:35 PM
Corner again and we concede again.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on November 03, 2018, 03:45:19 PM
Keystone Kops?
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: crazedwbafan18 on November 03, 2018, 03:45:27 PM
Whats happened? We were so competitive a few weeks ago and we're falling to pieces.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: wodenson46 on November 03, 2018, 03:46:00 PM
I think you're being harsh on Livermore.  He's dropping in and looking for the ball but Brunt is nowhere to be seen most of the time so ends up surrounded by Hull players.  What is he supposed to do there?  All he can do is lay it back to the defence and look for the ball again.  He's covered a lot of ground in midfield so far trying to get things moving.

Yes agreed! Both him and Hegazi have made a few mistakes but are carrying the can for those around them
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on November 03, 2018, 03:47:29 PM
We're out of the top 6 and Birmingham are in.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: boinging_along on November 03, 2018, 03:47:36 PM
Undone by the short corner again.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: baggie82 on November 03, 2018, 03:48:13 PM
Keystone Kops?

Worse that that I'm afraid.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: wba_1996 on November 03, 2018, 03:48:29 PM
At what point do we accept that the Moore experiment is a complete disaster? Quite obvious that Gayle was masking his complete lack of managerial ability, tactically he is one of the worst I’ve ever seen.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: boinging_along on November 03, 2018, 03:48:33 PM
Whats happened? We were so competitive a few weeks ago and we're falling to pieces.

We are as shaky as we have been all season, except if Gayle and Barnes aren't on fire then we don't score.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Mikkyk on November 03, 2018, 03:48:55 PM
We're out of the top 6 and Birmingham are in.

Well there's an example of a manager making the most of what is at his disposal, compared to us on the other hand...
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: baggiecarl on November 03, 2018, 03:49:48 PM
Keystone Kops?
yes keystone cops and borrowed time for someone
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Fritzl Palace on November 03, 2018, 03:50:50 PM
There is, yet again, nothing in this performance to be positive about. Make no mistake, Hull are an awful side
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: KYA on November 03, 2018, 03:51:23 PM
The team are in a dip worrying times lack of investment in the summer is now showing itself.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: crazedwbafan18 on November 03, 2018, 03:52:38 PM
This is deeply worrying, i really hope we can get a good result before long. Last week was a poor result, derby and wigan before that, terrible too. Things need to change.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: east-stand-nick on November 03, 2018, 03:52:46 PM
Whats happened? We were so competitive a few weeks ago and we're falling to pieces.

Competitive yes, organised and coherent? No, and it has been the case all season.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: alwaysbilly on November 03, 2018, 03:52:53 PM
At what point do we accept that the Moore experiment is a complete disaster? Quite obvious that Gayle was masking his complete lack of managerial ability, tactically he is one of the worst I’ve ever seen.
Jeknins wont change anything, as long as we get to 51 pts to stay in the league Moore will stay and the mid table championship club target will be on track and the full circle will be complete.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: VANDERLEI on November 03, 2018, 03:53:06 PM
If Moore insists on making defenders who can't pass the ball, pass the ball he deserves sacking. Suicidal tactics.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: boinging_along on November 03, 2018, 03:53:32 PM
I'm sure someone will be along in a bit to tell me that it's all ok as we're top half still so we are doing ok.

The problem is, we just don't seem to be improving.  Opposing teams are finding it easy to play against us.  They can either push on and force us into a mistake, or they drop back and stick 5 men across midfield that we can't play our way through.

I've no idea where Morrison is playing, it doesn't feel like he's been in our half all match.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: koren on November 03, 2018, 03:53:52 PM
Give away the ball cheaply at the back many times and concede from a corner again.
Also we fail to create chances on the front.
J-Rod works hard but surely he need some one to help him.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: baggie82 on November 03, 2018, 03:53:57 PM
J-Rod first meaningful sprint of the half was into the tunnel for half-time.

Formation dire, players clueless. No attacking threat and no defence.

Moore is clueless but the players are also largely useless. Gayle's goals made all the difference.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: baggies_24 on November 03, 2018, 03:54:02 PM
Well we all know he’l bring on Hal Robson Kanu around 60 minutes, completely outplayed again.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: east-stand-nick on November 03, 2018, 03:54:23 PM
I'm sure someone will be along in a bit to tell me that it's all ok as we're top half still so we are doing ok.


Then it'll be "We're not in the relegation zone, we're doing okay".
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Mikkyk on November 03, 2018, 03:54:26 PM
If Moore insists on making defenders who can't pass the ball, pass the ball he deserves sacking. Suicidal tactics.

Agree, we'll be in the bottom half before long if we carry on like this. And I feel that bottom half after a third of the season give the board no option but to get rid.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: BaggieBoy04 on November 03, 2018, 03:54:40 PM
FFS Guess the only reason Darren did well was from last season carried it over built up a few attacking players who could hide the defensive mess. Like when Liverpool nearly won the title Suarez Sturridge but a bunch of clueless clowns at the back but during that Suarez covered for Sturridge who when Suarez left got injuried and then they lost momentum Gayle got us out of trouble big time. But now without Albion are exposed 1-0 look awful only bright side Sam Field is on and 45 minutes still to turn it around.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: VANDERLEI on November 03, 2018, 03:55:08 PM
Sakho needs bringing on asap.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on November 03, 2018, 03:55:14 PM
Jenkins and Moore are becoming clones of Pulis....Won't and can't see what is happening and so therefore wont change.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: paulosull on November 03, 2018, 03:55:53 PM
The team are in a dip worrying times lack of investment in the summer is now showing itself.
haven't played well all season, Moore had to change it at the back and use different personal in midfield, Barnes and Gayle have been papering over the cracks
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: east-stand-nick on November 03, 2018, 03:57:16 PM
Sakho needs bringing on asap.

It'll be HRK and we all know it.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: barnestormer on November 03, 2018, 03:57:32 PM
Blues currently above us in the table just confirms how good they are and how bad we are
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: VANDERLEI on November 03, 2018, 03:58:17 PM
It'll be HRK and we all know it.

Sadly, you are correct.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: alex1 on November 03, 2018, 04:00:01 PM
We are not getting on the ball midfield and setting up chances. Nobody getting hold of it. Happy with a simple pass sideways. Barnes has gone off the boil.  Hull deserve to be in front. Moore has got to do something. We have to take the game to Hull, not just stroll around in midfield.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Fritzl Palace on November 03, 2018, 04:00:33 PM
Blues currently above us in the table just confirms how good a manager Monk is in comparison to Moore

Fixed it for you.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: wodenson46 on November 03, 2018, 04:01:08 PM
If Moore insists on making defenders who can't pass the ball, pass the ball he deserves sacking. Suicidal tactics.

Plus an inexperienced goalkeeper who needs GPS to find the penalty spot, and does not command his area by neither talking to his defenders nor taking crosses.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: baggiebof on November 03, 2018, 04:01:38 PM
I feel like Frazier Campbell's record against us is exceptional, he always seems to score against us and nobody else!
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: frazzle on November 03, 2018, 04:01:49 PM
Sadly, you are correct.

Has he put Kanu on?
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: wodenson46 on November 03, 2018, 04:03:23 PM
We are not getting on the ball midfield and setting up chances. Nobody getting hold of it. Happy with a simple pass sideways. Barnes has gone off the boil.  Hull deserve to be in front. Moore has got to do something. We have to take the game to Hull, not just stroll around in midfield.

Yep HRK for Barnes will do that won't it?
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: KYA on November 03, 2018, 04:03:36 PM
Time to give the likes of Burke a chance the team needs a shake-up and I have to agree 3 at the back isn't working teams at the bottom have a better defensive record than we have teams know they will score against us.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: frazzle on November 03, 2018, 04:03:47 PM
Not great. Goal from a corner so not necessarily a fault of playing 3 at the back though certainly an issue around organisation. Hoping Field has a good second half and it feels to me like this could be a game for Burke as we need to try something different and it looks like there is space behind Hull.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: barnestormer on November 03, 2018, 04:03:50 PM
Fixed it for you.
Thanks its no secret I wanted monk before he went blues
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: beechyboy90 on November 03, 2018, 04:04:13 PM
haven't played well all season, Moore had to change it at the back and use different personal in midfield, Barnes and Gayle have been papering over the cracks

Again away from home Albion have been a total none entity. This system absolutely stinks the big chance was instead of 2 up top it was 2 just off striker- were still being overrun. Phillips has looked a shadow of himself since his injury comeback- Barnes has become Abit jack grealish- all hype without delivering he really is off form.

Rodriguez has been poor all season in a 2 man strike line up. On his own he's had no chance. He's not quick to run channels and isn't strong enough to hold the ball up. Baffling to play him alone.

Our central midfielders all season have been so poor they come take the ball and pass it back to centre halves and hide and relies on the back 3 trying to pick passes which inevitably leads to us giving away possession.

I love Chris brunt and still think he's decent to have round the squad or play left side but cm he is awful. Him being injured whilst a shame will stop them.playing him cm.

Poor line up and tactics again. Hull are rubbish this game is there for the taking. We have lacked pace all game. I would take Morrison or Rodriguez off for Sako or Burke at this point. But would suggest both need to come on at some point to give us to impoteus as day we have been so bad
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Fritzl Palace on November 03, 2018, 04:05:16 PM
Hopefully something changes second half and we come out with the win which is the only acceptable result against a side this poor
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: alex1 on November 03, 2018, 04:05:24 PM
Yep HRK for Barnes will do that won't it?
I hope that was an attempt at irony..
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: frazzle on November 03, 2018, 04:05:45 PM
No changes.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: baggie82 on November 03, 2018, 04:06:48 PM
Not great. Goal from a corner so not necessarily a fault of playing 3 at the back though certainly an issue around organisation.

A half decent team would have put at least three past us in that half. Hull had four good chances to score including the goal, loads of massive open gaps all over the pitch when we lost the ball, formation completely rank.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: seteefeet on November 03, 2018, 04:07:13 PM
Getting impossible to defend him when he keeps making the same mistake week after week. 2-0 looks far more likely than 1-1. No striker on the bench:
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: wodenson46 on November 03, 2018, 04:09:07 PM
I hope that was an attempt at irony..

Not at all  -  just being sarcastic
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: frazzle on November 03, 2018, 04:10:41 PM
Getting impossible to defend him when he keeps making the same mistake week after week. 2-0 looks far more likely than 1-1. No striker on the bench:

Apart from Sako who played striker for Palace last season and Burke who we are trying to convert to striker and is scoring regularly for under 23s. Hopefully one will be on soon.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: koren on November 03, 2018, 04:18:44 PM
Hegazi not better than Bartley.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Mikkyk on November 03, 2018, 04:21:26 PM
Hegazi not better than Bartley.

That is a very bold claim, which most people including myself wouldn't agree with
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: boinging_along on November 03, 2018, 04:23:08 PM
Hegazi is better than Bartley, neither are up to this system though.

We are gradually looking better as Hull drop deeper though.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: graka on November 03, 2018, 04:25:33 PM
He needs to sack Jones. The 3 at the back is his baby.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: baggie82 on November 03, 2018, 04:25:57 PM
Hegazi is better than Bartley, neither are up to this system though.

We are gradually looking better as Hull drop deeper though.

Hegazi has been embarrassing this half, just ran the ball straight out of play. Terrible player, as is Bartley.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: boinging_along on November 03, 2018, 04:28:23 PM
Sako and Burke on for Phillips and Morrison
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: baggie82 on November 03, 2018, 04:28:30 PM
Sakho and Burke on.

Phillips and Morrison off.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: graka on November 03, 2018, 04:29:12 PM
Hegazi has been embarrassing this half, just ran the ball straight out of play. Terrible player, as is Bartley.

There isn't a decent centre half at the club.
Bartley is a clown
Hegazi is awful
GMAC and Evans made Dawson look better than he is.
Adebayo might be comfortable on the ball but can't defend.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: slate on November 03, 2018, 04:30:15 PM
20 minutes to go and Moore STILL HASN'T MADE ANY CHANGES to either system or personnel. He just carries on banging his head against a wall and expecting something to miraculously change.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: slate on November 03, 2018, 04:31:02 PM
ABOUT DAMN TIME.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: boinging_along on November 03, 2018, 04:31:41 PM
:D
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: boinging_along on November 03, 2018, 04:32:42 PM
Free kick into the wall from Sako and he puts the follow up wide.

We've still not tested the keeper.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: slate on November 03, 2018, 04:32:49 PM
:D

He must have heard my all-caps rant. 😂😂
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: iwastherein68 on November 03, 2018, 04:33:37 PM
He needs to sack Jones. The 3 at the back is his baby.
Needs to sack himself for dereliction of duty
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: boinging_along on November 03, 2018, 04:40:57 PM
So little of our play makes me go "that's decent, nicely done".  Nobody ever thinks more than one pass ahead so we play balls into players who have zero options availble to them.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: paulosull on November 03, 2018, 04:42:14 PM
Stop Barnes and Gayle, stops Albion.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: baggie82 on November 03, 2018, 04:44:09 PM
We keep playing the ball backwards and then falling over. We've still not even managed a single shot on target against a rubbish team.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: boinging_along on November 03, 2018, 04:44:21 PM
J-Rod is pointless.  The only thing he's done all game is chase their keeper when another Dawson\Heagazi ball over the top runs through to the keeper.  I could do that.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Bilston Dan on November 03, 2018, 04:45:16 PM
Absolutely no penetration at all. We just don't look like scoring. Seems now teams have figured out how to play us, we're easily neutralised.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: beechyboy90 on November 03, 2018, 04:45:32 PM
Even with changes we dont look any better- no balance to team. Sako and Burke ahvent done much since coming on.

Be criminal if we lose here today.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: beechyboy90 on November 03, 2018, 04:46:12 PM
We still haven't had a chance in this game only 20 to go
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: alwaysbilly on November 03, 2018, 04:47:23 PM
Stop Barnes and Gayle, stops Albion.
Correct abd found out - worrying times ahead - can see a battering next week again

Been coming for so long though - I said to my old man after reading game we are an accident waiting to happen
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: east-stand-nick on November 03, 2018, 04:47:43 PM
1 shot on target against one of the worst teams in the league is a disgrace.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: CL3MO on November 03, 2018, 04:47:49 PM
We've created absolutely nothing against another very poor Championship team...
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: boinging_along on November 03, 2018, 04:51:45 PM
3 short corners in this game alone have caught us out.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Bilston Dan on November 03, 2018, 04:52:19 PM
This is probably one of the worst games of the season so far. We just look cack. Hull are cack as well...there's something wrong here.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Blowee on November 03, 2018, 04:54:25 PM
Confidence completely gone. Commentary for the last few games keeps repeating this is the worst they've played so I can only conclude that we at getting worse each week. Big Dave has a huge challenge.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: boinging_along on November 03, 2018, 04:56:16 PM
We look like a League Two team, it's getting embarassing now.  We have mishit so many passes it's unreal.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: paulosull on November 03, 2018, 04:56:33 PM
Big Dave is turning into Alan Irvine
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on November 03, 2018, 04:58:13 PM
Yacob has played well for Forest.
Title: Re: In Game Chat
Post by: Aztech on November 03, 2018, 04:58:40 PM
Big Dave is turning into Alan Irvine

Unfortunately Alan Irvine is a better coach than Darren Moore
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: Pie on November 03, 2018, 04:59:08 PM
We all saw it coming
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on November 03, 2018, 04:59:20 PM
Not sayin' nuttin'.
 >:(
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: crazedwbafan18 on November 03, 2018, 04:59:25 PM
Getting pig sick of this season already. Some completely unacceptable results and today is another clear example of how far we are from going back up.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: gavinrussell on November 03, 2018, 05:00:17 PM
I'm sure that he will reiterate in his after match conference that we will "learn from that game"..!!!
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: boinging_along on November 03, 2018, 05:01:12 PM
We are getting worse and worse. 
3 at the back doesn't work.
If a midfielder is going to drop for the ball there needs to be other players to pass to.
So many stupid mistakes.
Lack of thought when passing the ball, what's the point in Hegazi constantly chipping it to Phillips on the touch line at head height.
Didn't look threatening at all.
Keeper made one save and that was a tame header which was practically the last touch of the match.
Outplayed, outfought and outthought, by Hull, a team that had 1 clean sheet all season and that was against the bottom club.
We need a LOT of work in January.  We can't rely on Barnes and Gayle every match to pull something out of the bag.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: iwastherein68 on November 03, 2018, 05:01:23 PM
We all saw it coming
Some didn't and probably still do not - deluded
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: smosher34 on November 03, 2018, 05:01:31 PM
Leeds next
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: baggie82 on November 03, 2018, 05:01:37 PM
Complete shambles. Muppet management team. Be quite happy to sack them all and sell half the squad if anyone will take them.

Without Gayle we are clueless.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: baggies_24 on November 03, 2018, 05:01:43 PM
That was as bad as anything that was served up under Pulis. I’m afraid to say Moore is completely out of his depth, no imagination every pass is sideways or backwards. Playing a system the players can’t play, they have to to take some responsibilty Hegazi was useless, Dawson useless, Livermore couldn’t trap a bag of sand not good enough, Rodriguez not good enough, Morrison awful. We’l get spanked by Leeds next week Bielsa will completely outthink Moore and do him tactically.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: barnestormer on November 03, 2018, 05:01:48 PM
Getting pig sick of this season already. Some completely unacceptable results and today is another clear example of how far we are from going back up.
Weed be an even bigger embarrassment in the prem
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: wbawill on November 03, 2018, 05:02:00 PM
Wheels officially off the wagon. Big changes needed in terms of tactics and personnel. Toughest test of Big Dave's managerial career by far but he definitely deserves plenty of time to turn it around. Going up this season was always going to be a big ask.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: Bilston Dan on November 03, 2018, 05:02:38 PM
*Cue generic Ron Manager-esque soundbites from the press conference*

This is quite worrying to be honest. Same old cack week in and week out. No imagination, very little penetration. No goals coming in now.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: graka on November 03, 2018, 05:03:22 PM
Erm we played a very good team erm we will pick the bones out of it and erm play the same formation which isn't working and erm lose again.
Sack Jones and put big Dave looking after the u23s
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: Pie on November 03, 2018, 05:04:12 PM
Marcelo Bielsa will have a field day with his pressing game against us
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: frazzle on November 03, 2018, 05:05:15 PM
Not a good result or performance.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: koren on November 03, 2018, 05:05:43 PM
Whole game we did nothing in open-play and fail to create any chances.
Good too see Moore brings on Bukre but apart from the player selection, he has to change the team system too in order to end recent poor form.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: cewba on November 03, 2018, 05:06:46 PM
shocking and with very little sign of it changing  ???
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: paulosull on November 03, 2018, 05:09:48 PM
Needs to be put out of his misery as he's proven that he's not good enough and only for Barnes and Gayle we'd be near the bottom.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: we8seals on November 03, 2018, 05:10:25 PM
That should shut the happy clippers up. That was disgraceful. Never looked like scoring. Surely we wont be hearing the bad day at office line - or they areca good team we should not expect to beat. Two points from 12 and barely laid a glove on any of the four teams. Mostly outplayed and certainly outcos he’d.
Very depressing with some “tougher” games to come
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: alex1 on November 03, 2018, 05:13:52 PM
Very poor performance. Not good enough to break down a basic defence. Players would rather play a safe sideways or backwards pass in single tempo than ask questions of Hull's defence. Only one shot on target, soft header from Hegazi.
Rely too much on Gayle. Missing Gibbs invention left side as well.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: maccbaggie on November 03, 2018, 05:15:27 PM
We all saw it coming
Not all, some.

Look forward to the Moore defenders coming on tonight. Our performances finally getting what they've deserved, 3 losses on the bounce. No chance we're getting promoted under DM sadly.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: beechyboy90 on November 03, 2018, 05:16:52 PM
Needed to change formation today he had 2 behind striker instead of 2 strikers. We were still overrun- we had a 15 minute spell after half time when Morrison dropped in as extra man when we were on top then the manager changed it again.

Rodriguez isn't a lone striker he ain't quick so can't run channels he isn't strong enough to hold the ball up. Barnes and Phillips totally off form. Centre midfielders don't do anything with ball except come take the 5 yard pass from centre defence then give them the ball back-we are relying on defenders to pick passes which is why we give the ball away so much.

Then come the changes; bringing Burke and Sako on at same time further mucked up our shape we lost any fluidity and the game got further away from us. Playing Tosin at rb in the last 20 was baffling he was a calimity why not put Dawson there.

We went from being overrun and too heavy to ahving it right for like 10 minutes to being even more overrun and top heavy 424 it looked like. Never seen subs have such little impact. Looks as if the players have well an truly lost belief in that system

Hull we're a poor side and that's the type of game we have to be winning if we want any chance of going up.

If the manager isn't going to change the formation we will have to change the manager.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: maccbaggie on November 03, 2018, 05:17:46 PM
Looking forward to the meaningless string of clichés that Moore bestows upon us tonight reflecting his tactical expertise, intelligence and insight.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: tommcneill on November 03, 2018, 05:18:36 PM
Haven’t seen the way we played just the result...but it’s a poor one

Changes needed, we need to get back to winning ways and quickly

Persisting with Brunt in the middle is a travesty...and one that could end DM’s career here before it’s really started
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: Beefy on November 03, 2018, 05:19:20 PM
Hull the better team correct let that sink in  Thumb up
Hull's only home win this season, Ipswich who are Bottom !!!
Bomber on WM, Their goalkeeper has had nothing to do, defensive shambles, worst Albion performance he has seen in a long time etc etc etc...
Now tell me if this was not Darren Moore the manager would be sacked tonight?
Utter rubbish, no tactical nouse, no idea, a bloke who was a great defender but not a great passer by the way, is trying to get to do exactly that and is turning us into a laughing stock  Angry
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: frazzle on November 03, 2018, 05:21:43 PM
Not all, some.

Look forward to the Moore defenders coming on tonight. Our performances finally getting what they've deserved, 3 losses on the bounce. No chance we're getting promoted under DM sadly.

Really pathetic. Sorry but to take such pleasure from a defeat. Pathetic.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: baggie38 on November 03, 2018, 05:22:31 PM
Changed needed. We can't continue to drop points at this rate if we want play offs let alone automatic promotion. We will get smashed next week by Leeds pressing game. Big Daves stubbornness is going to cost him his job at this rate.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: TheJacko2000 on November 03, 2018, 05:25:58 PM
A blip became a crisis today. We were very poor, the 3 man defence constantly switching positions in-game is untenable. The kids everyone is hailing were dreadful Field, Burke and Barnes. We lost all control we had first with Brunts injury and even moreso when inexplicably we took Morrison off.


Very bad day at the office for Darren. We didn't threaten at all.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: dan7heman on November 03, 2018, 05:29:28 PM
The defence is bad but the midfield is worse. . They keep changing but nothing will help till the midfield gets sorted, they are too exposed.

Claudio Yacob anyone? Or someone to do that job.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: boinging_along on November 03, 2018, 05:33:01 PM
We had no control when Brunt was on the pitch and Field actually improved things in the middle.

Wish people would stop crying out for Yacob.  We don't need another slow midfielder who can't pass in there. It's not the breaking up of play that's causing us problems it's when we have the ball that we don't have enough people around the direction of play.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: TheJacko2000 on November 03, 2018, 05:35:50 PM
We had no control when Brunt was on the pitch and Field actually improved things in the middle.

Wish people would stop crying out for Yacob.  We don't need another slow midfielder who can't pass in there. It's not the breaking up of play that's causing us problems it's when we have the ball that we don't have enough people around the direction of play.


I was at the game and can assure you he didn't.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: caravanc58 on November 03, 2018, 05:36:13 PM
we are stuck in reverse. it's madness to keep playing a system that's failing. also this group of players (again) need to show some balls and stop choosing the easy option with their passes.
must add that a scarecrow would have been more threatening than Rodriguez today who put in a performance that wouldn't have interested a non league team for his signature.
sadly I don't see this run ending anytime soon.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: Hull Baggie on November 03, 2018, 05:46:55 PM
Dreadful. Not a single player comes out of that with any credit. As bad as anything we saw under Pardew.

Hull were very poor we just made them look better.

Without Gayle we look like we won't score but then we don't create anything either. Barnes was pretty much anonymous again.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: OldburyWBA on November 03, 2018, 05:51:16 PM
That should shut the happy clippers up. That was disgraceful. Never looked like scoring. Surely we wont be hearing the bad day at office line - or they areca good team we should not expect to beat. Two points from 12 and barely laid a glove on any of the four teams. Mostly outplayed and certainly outcos he’d.
Very depressing with some “tougher” games to come

Can we cut the happy clapper comments please, same as the doom monger ones we get from the other side, not wanted.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: OldburyWBA on November 03, 2018, 05:52:38 PM
A blip became a crisis today. We were very poor, the 3 man defence constantly switching positions in-game is untenable. The kids everyone is hailing were dreadful Field, Burke and Barnes. We lost all control we had first with Brunts injury and even moreso when inexplicably we took Morrison off.


Very bad day at the office for Darren. We didn't threaten at all.

We had no control with Brunt on the pitch so to use that as an excuse is truly laughable, we should have been 3 down inside the first 10 minutes ffs.

Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: boinging_along on November 03, 2018, 05:59:19 PM

I was at the game and can assure you he didn't.

I watched it and could rewind, I can assure you he did.  There was times when Livermore looked for the ball from the back 3 got it, and Brunt was nowhere. And he played it back to the defence, then looked for it again, and still Brunt wasn't there.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: boinging_along on November 03, 2018, 06:01:44 PM
I actually thought Livermore put a good shift on today, he's just on his own in about 40 yards.

I also thought Townsend was good for the first 60 mins, then his performance fell off a cliff.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: Oldbury24 on November 03, 2018, 06:08:06 PM
I have been a massive supporter of Big D but he now needs to show that he can change things to stop the slump.  Didn't watch today but I imagine it was very much like the last ten against Blackburn, which was clueless football played by poor footballers. Without Gayle we are struggling.  Some hoped JRod would find his level but to me he looks shot....gone.  Sakho has become our obi-one.  Our transfer activity has really screwed the pooch....we needed an overhaul and instead kept our experienced but ineffectual players.  Oh dear.....there may be a tough few.weeks ahead.   Worried as really want the Moore/Jones experiment to work.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: Mickyfudge on November 03, 2018, 06:08:22 PM
Once again jacks is closing his eyes to the truth ,watched the match today was completely bored by it , I think it’s a mixture of Moore’s lack of know how and most of our squad being completely overrated .rodriguez is no better in champ against lesser teams .i think the same is true about quite a few others
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: alex1 on November 03, 2018, 06:11:46 PM
Earlier this season we were attacking and causing alot of danger from both wings. Now, Phillips hasn't gone past players since his injury, and Gibbs has been out.  And neither Tosin nor Townsend can provide anywhere near the same service. Also Barnes has gone off the boil, whether opposition have done their homework on him I don't know.  The build up at times was painfully slow, as we push it sideways and backwards. Even a basic defence like Hull have plenty of time to get back and organise.  And too many simple errors in the build up, overhit passes etc. Some of the players looked very uncomfortable passing it around. I actually think JRod did well in the circumstances. The service he got was abysmal.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: Mickyfudge on November 03, 2018, 06:25:59 PM
Everything about our play was so slow ,I was saying whilst watching it that it was crying out for some pace or for someone to run at them rather than this obsession with passing sideways .its no coincidence that we go behind in almost every away match ,we need to go at teams rather than slow things down
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: GREGMT on November 03, 2018, 06:29:08 PM
Absolute masterclass from Moore.  Set up with 2 slow central midfielders, another one Livermore is only a little quicker and play an inside forward (No10) instead of a proper centre forward.  All you have done is create a muddle with no space to effectively pass the ball. 

All those hammering the defence need to understand the lack of protection from midfield contributes to the problems.

Bringing on Sako and Burke in the 66th minute is too late.  The pattern of the game is set by then.  It was clear a limited team were going to try and scramble a goal then defend for their lives after.

When is this man actually going to stand up to senior players and drop them for a poor performance?  It was crying out for Sako to start up top with Gayle ruled out.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: baggiesboots on November 03, 2018, 06:37:05 PM
Earlier this season we were attacking and causing alot of danger from both wings. Now, Phillips hasn't gone past players since his injury, and Gibbs has been out.  And neither Tosin nor Townsend can provide anywhere near the same service. Also Barnes has gone off the boil, whether opposition have done their homework on him I don't know.  The build up at times was painfully slow, as we push it sideways and backwards. Even a basic defence like Hull have plenty of time to get back and organise.  And too many simple errors in the build up, overhit passes etc. Some of the players looked very uncomfortable passing it around. I actually think JRod did well in the circumstances. The service he got was abysmal.

There's been a real lack of pace at the club for a very long time, Phillips is a great player when 'on it' but those days are often few and far between. I think that we do have players at the club to offer us pace, but not playing in the formation DM wants to stick with unfortunately. You can't play slow counter attacking football, the way we are trying to, it's laughable.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: Mickyfudge on November 03, 2018, 06:43:02 PM
Agree about Phillips ,he has been better this season but he is never going to create loads of chances ,we need someone with pace that can stretch teams
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: wodenson46 on November 03, 2018, 07:02:45 PM
Whatever the team selection, whatever the tactics there has to be belief. This squad has none. They look and play like they are scared stiff of trying something different, of trying to change things on the pitch. This is not american football where everything is done by numbers it needs inspiration, imagination and most of all confidence. We have none. Not sure Darren is totally behind the system either, the team selection is very safety first with a majority of 'old heads' with unfortunately old legs as well.The younger players are not being given any chance to develop, make their mistakes in games, learn from them and improve. It all seems as hidebound in its own way as pulisball and is far less effective though sometimes more entertaining. when Gayle Barnes and Phillips are on song the attacking is more intuitive and less contrived. when they are not - as in recent games no one has taken on the responsibility of getting forward with the ball quickly. drawing defenders to them and releasing an equally quick thinking and athletic team mate with a simple short accurate pass. It is this safety first aspect that makes us easy to defend against and puts pressure on the weakest part of our team. For me there appears to be  too much coaching and players don't seem to be allowed to do what is most natural for them, within the team framework. We look like a bunch of individuals trying to carry out a set of instructions written in a foreign (to most of them) language. Over to you Mr Moore this is the basic problem head coaches have to solve, and it never works using just your mates.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: maccbaggie on November 03, 2018, 07:03:30 PM
Really pathetic. Sorry but to take such pleasure from a defeat. Pathetic.
You think I take pleasure from watching another predictably poor performance and criticising the manager for his repeated failure to recognise the team's problems?

I criticise because I care, I have seen this gradual trajectory towards midtable coming since he was appointed (I wanted Smith), and because I can see that the longer he remains in charge, the worse our prospects are of ever getting back into the Premier League.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: GREGMT on November 03, 2018, 07:17:07 PM
Whatever the team selection, whatever the tactics there has to be belief. This squad has none. They look and play like they are scared stiff of trying something different, of trying to change things on the pitch. This is not american football where everything is done by numbers it needs inspiration, imagination and most of all confidence. We have none. Not sure Darren is totally behind the system either, the team selection is very safety first with a majority of 'old heads' with unfortunately old legs as well.The younger players are not being given any chance to develop, make their mistakes in games, learn from them and improve. It all seems as hidebound in its own way as pulisball and is far less effective though sometimes more entertaining. when Gayle Barnes and Phillips are on song the attacking is more intuitive and less contrived. when they are not - as in recent games no one has taken on the responsibility of getting forward with the ball quickly. drawing defenders to them and releasing an equally quick thinking and athletic team mate with a simple short accurate pass. It is this safety first aspect that makes us easy to defend against and puts pressure on the weakest part of our team. For me there appears to be  too much coaching and players don't seem to be allowed to do what is most natural for them, within the team framework. We look like a bunch of individuals trying to carry out a set of instructions written in a foreign (to most of them) language. Over to you Mr Moore this is the basic problem head coaches have to solve, and it never works using just your mates.

Good post.  I’m absolutely sure the team has been run by a clique of senior players for a fair few seasons now.  These senior players have far too much influence and ultimately there is not enough accountability for when they do play badly.  We held onto Olson for too long, possibly Fletcher and would certainly say that’s true of Brunt and Morrison now.  Whereby other clubs evolve naturally and players go past their sell-by-date, WBA seem to lack authority in this decision making. 

Surely the likes of Brunt must know deep down they are falling short?  We need a Manager who’s brave enough to make hard decisions based on what he sees.  I don’t see Moore doing it, therefore ditch any thought of promotion.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: baggies_24 on November 03, 2018, 08:08:18 PM
Whatever the team selection, whatever the tactics there has to be belief. This squad has none. They look and play like they are scared stiff of trying something different, of trying to change things on the pitch. This is not american football where everything is done by numbers it needs inspiration, imagination and most of all confidence. We have none. Not sure Darren is totally behind the system either, the team selection is very safety first with a majority of 'old heads' with unfortunately old legs as well.The younger players are not being given any chance to develop, make their mistakes in games, learn from them and improve. It all seems as hidebound in its own way as pulisball and is far less effective though sometimes more entertaining. when Gayle Barnes and Phillips are on song the attacking is more intuitive and less contrived. when they are not - as in recent games no one has taken on the responsibility of getting forward with the ball quickly. drawing defenders to them and releasing an equally quick thinking and athletic team mate with a simple short accurate pass. It is this safety first aspect that makes us easy to defend against and puts pressure on the weakest part of our team. For me there appears to be  too much coaching and players don't seem to be allowed to do what is most natural for them, within the team framework. We look like a bunch of individuals trying to carry out a set of instructions written in a foreign (to most of them) language. Over to you Mr Moore this is the basic problem head coaches have to solve, and it never works using just your mates.

Spot on no-one out there today was willing to take any responsibility and try something risky, every pass was sideways or backwards to a team mate almost as if to say you do it. We are frighteningly short of any imagination. I think our massive problems stem from the centre of midfield. I don’t think it’s much coincidence our more assured performances this season have come with Barry in midfield, Brunt never was, never will be a cm. Field was pathetic today every pass was sideways or back & if Livermore is a professional footballer with his touch & control it still gives me hope of making it professionally. We are been punished for not addressing the centre of midfield in the summer, we’d be a far better team with a woods / mcginn in the middle of the park. Games are won and lost in the middle and we are severely lacking in quality and legs and it’s biting us on the backside big time.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: Dan87uk on November 03, 2018, 09:01:13 PM
Just got home..

Still can't believe just how poor we were today, yes we've been poor in general away from home, but we've at least been creating chances - today was a totally different story and it showed just how much we missed Gayle up top; Particularly as J-Rod, Phillips and Barnes are bang out of form right now too.

Moore went straight down the tunnel at the end, didn't acknowledge the fans at all; along with most of the players too. Livermore and Dawson did starting coming over to us and clapping, but their clapping was met with very strong booing from our fans which I think confused them... they then weren't sure if to carry on clapping or leave with the rest of them who'd already scurried off. Very bizarre, never seen that before.

Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: Nice1Cyrille on November 04, 2018, 02:32:30 AM
Very poor all round today.
Need to go back to a solid back four and put some creativity in midfield.
Without Gayle I don't see where the next goal will come from.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: SmethDan on November 04, 2018, 01:58:35 PM
Yesterday's display reminded me of the bad old, sad old days under the stewardship of Brian Little. To those who weren't in attendance then yes we really were that bad. No shape, no desire, no leadership, no coherent game plan or general idea.

Other than for a brief spell early in the second half we looked absolutely clueless and largely bereft of inspiration. I honestly cannot imagine what they've been up to in training. And if the players did know what was expected of them in terms of a game plan, they clearly had no interest in adhering to it. Complete shambles of a 'performance'.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: baggybazza on November 04, 2018, 02:30:50 PM
I dont like to say i told you so but hey i told you so!!!

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Re: After Match Debate
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Have to say sentiment gets you know where in any walk of life.
In my time i have seen

Don Howe

Bryan Robson 

Darren Moore

the first 2 failed  and looks like Big Dave going to do the same.

We need an experienced Manager in this league and some fresh young talent  THIS CLUB IS SCREAMING OUT FOR A DEAN SMITH

Do something now before its to late!
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Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: Atomic on November 04, 2018, 02:35:37 PM
Yesterday's display reminded me of the bad old, sad old days under the stewardship of Brian Little. To those who weren't in attendance then yes we really were that bad. No shape, no desire, no leadership, no coherent game plan or general idea.

Other than for a brief spell early in the second half we looked absolutely clueless and largely bereft of inspiration. I honestly cannot imagine what they've been up to in training. And if the players did know what was expected of them in terms of a game plan, they clearly had no interest in adhering to it. Complete shambles of a 'performance'.


I wasn't at yesterdays game but if what you are saying is true it is very concerning.

Is it possible that the players aren't "buying in to" this way of playing anymore?
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: Fritzl Palace on November 04, 2018, 02:58:38 PM
When it became clear that we were going down last season I vowed to go to every away game this season. Then we appointed Darren Moore and I haven’t been to a single one this season and am seriously glad that I haven’t. Have watched every single one on TV/internet and we have been beyond awful in all of our away performances.

I feel just as I did under Pulis, completely disenchanted with the club I love
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: 17GD on November 04, 2018, 03:24:18 PM
Didn't see or hear most of yesterday's game because i was at a football coaching course all day, but from the final 5 mins i heard on WM, Bomber said it was the worst he'd seen in a long time. Said it was very flat with little creativity.

I've been to 5 matches this season so far, and I'm yet to see a convincing performance. In all honesty, our performances resemble DMs outward appearance: laid back, quiet and a little bit mundane. The team has no passion, no fight, no creativity.

It's ok standing at the side whistling all game, but what does that actually mean? There's no meaning to it. It's actually starting to grate on me.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on November 04, 2018, 03:37:29 PM
Time to say "Good night" to Darren
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: Throstletown on November 04, 2018, 04:22:40 PM
Devoid of pace, energy or ideas but plenty of experience of failure. Anyone who has tried to change the way we play has been met with no cooperation as it requires effort they simply dont buy into.
Title: Re: After Match Debate
Post by: Adamstv on November 04, 2018, 05:11:32 PM
Yesterday's display reminded me of the bad old, sad old days under the stewardship of Brian Little. To those who weren't in attendance then yes we really were that bad. No shape, no desire, no leadership, no coherent game plan or general idea.

Other than for a brief spell early in the second half we looked absolutely clueless and largely bereft of inspiration. I honestly cannot imagine what they've been up to in training. And if the players did know what was expected of them in terms of a game plan, they clearly had no interest in adhering to it. Complete shambles of a 'performance'.

I have to agree with that comment. I was at the game and it is probably one of the worst performances I gave had to endure for many a year. I was with some Hull pals before the game and they were worried about how many we would score. Having a beer after they couldn’t believe how bad we were. Totally bereft if ideas and the subs that did come on did not do anything to suggest they are serious 1st team contenders. I am really worried about Leeds next week