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Title: Play offs
Post by: 17GD on March 26, 2019, 01:25:35 PM
Barring a full scale disaster, we should make the play offs. I can't see the 7 point gap between us and second shrinking that much and we're 10 points clear of 7th.

So with all this in mind, who do you think will finish in positions 3-6, and ideally, who would you like to play and who in general would you like to avoid?

I'd like to avoid Leeds and Boro. I think Leeds would turn us over with ease and Boro would no doubt manage two 1-0 scraped victories. I'm also convinced that Villa would prove to be a tough test now they have JG back, but with it being a derby it would just depend on the day.

I'd feel most confident playing against Sheff Utd, Preston or Derby. I think we've learned a lot since playing Sheff Utd, so I think we could match them if not slightly better them.

3 Sheffield Utd
4 WBA
5 Derby
6 Middlesbrough
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: Atomic on March 26, 2019, 01:27:17 PM
I wouldn't be scared of any of them if we approached it properly.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: seteefeet on March 26, 2019, 02:21:55 PM
I wouldn't be scared of any of them if we approached it properly.
If we really do have the best squad in the division then we should walk the play offs whoever we play. I don't think we do, but I guess this is where we find out as, with no new manager on the horizon, we really need the players to step up and take some responsibility, personally I don't think they have the mettle and we risk going out with a whimper. I hope I'm wrong but nothing at the club is giving me confidence at present.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: tuamigos on March 26, 2019, 02:32:07 PM
Its going to be a bit of a lottery.
We are capable of being awful and wonderful in equal measures in a hares breath.
I'd fancy us against Boro in the semi's then SOTV in the final.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: BigFrank20 on March 26, 2019, 02:33:38 PM
Any one know the probable dates for this lot?
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: kc56wba on March 26, 2019, 02:38:17 PM
Its going to be a bit of a lottery.
We are capable of being awful and wonderful in equal measures in a hares breath.
I'd fancy us against Boro in the semi's then SOTV in the final.


Us and the scum from Witton in the final is something that puts the fear of god into me.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: 17GD on March 26, 2019, 03:02:40 PM
Any one know the probable dates for this lot?

Play off final is Monday 27th May. I would assume the play off semis are a week or so after the conclusion of the season, which finishes on Sunday 5th May with 12.30 kick offs.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: mikehy on March 26, 2019, 03:42:27 PM
3RD Leeds
4TH West Brom
5TH Vile
6TH Derby

An horrific semi final defeat and Leeds v Vile final  :-[
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: costa blanca baggie on March 26, 2019, 05:54:21 PM

Us and the scum from Witton in the final is something that puts the fear of god into me.
Same for me. Losing to anyone but them wouldn’t feel so bad. I still haven’t got over that nightmare week not so long ago.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: hunsletbaggie on March 26, 2019, 07:29:30 PM
Same for me. Losing to anyone but them wouldn’t feel so bad. I still haven’t got over that nightmare week not so long ago.
Your lucky I'm still having nightmares from that weds night in April 1981.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: costa blanca baggie on March 26, 2019, 07:37:02 PM
Your lucky I'm still having nightmares from that weds night in April 1981.
Thanks. I was there and had managed to erase it with steady amounts of alcohol. ☺️
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: AlbionFan on March 26, 2019, 08:37:32 PM
It’s almost a “fait accompli”, where ever we finish we will, at some stage of the play offs, be against the Vile. And I have concerns!
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: silver surfer on March 26, 2019, 08:49:07 PM
3. Leeds
4. Albion
5. Bristol
6. Boro

Villa fall away

https://www.worldfootball.net/table_calculator/eng-championship/
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: BigFrank20 on March 27, 2019, 04:34:15 AM
Play off final is Monday 27th May. I would assume the play off semis are a week or so after the conclusion of the season, which finishes on Sunday 5th May with 12.30 kick offs.
Cheers mate, I'm away with my work May 14th to 23rd and going to be booking me final ticket on line from the US by the looks of it and with a bit of luck might even make both legs of the semi or more likely at least one leg
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: wbarenno on March 27, 2019, 11:40:06 AM
3. Leeds
4. Albion
5. Bristol
6. Boro

Villa fall away

https://www.worldfootball.net/table_calculator/eng-championship/

Heart over head that is mate I’d say villa are the in form team to win it at the minute not drop out of it
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: FallOutBoy on March 27, 2019, 12:52:00 PM
3. Leeds
4. Albion
5. Bristol
6. Boro

Villa fall away

https://www.worldfootball.net/table_calculator/eng-championship/

I had Villa 7th too, losing their last two games and dropping points against Bristol and Wednesday. Here's hoping.

I had us playing Boro in the play-offs though - 9 points behind Leeds in 3rd, 9 ahead of Boro in 5th.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: Atomic on March 27, 2019, 01:22:28 PM
I predict that Boro and Derby will miss out.

Sheff United 3rd
Albion 4th
Villa 5th
Bristol City 6th.


Us against them fkrs over two legs in the semis.

Not sure my heart will take it.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: ronnie_allen on March 28, 2019, 12:39:04 PM
Well I got a lot of my mid-season predictions hopelessly wrong. So here goes another.

3rd Leeds
4th West Brom'
5th Preston North End
6th Derby County

We aren't in contention for automatic but could overtake Leeds for 3rd spot on last day. Instead send a second string out to Derby who perform well but lose out late on to see them sneak ahead of Villa into 6th.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: Albionic on March 28, 2019, 01:30:57 PM
Blimey, my blue and white striped blinkers glasses have surpassed themselves,    :o  8)

Sadly have Vile sneaking in on goal difference  >:(

1   Norwich City                     46   26   13   7   92:58   34   91
2   West Bromwich Albion       46   25   10   11   88:56   32   85
3   Leeds United                  46   24   12   10   75:48   27   84
4   Sheffield United                  46   24   11   11   75:43   32   83
5   Bristol City                  46   21   13   12   61:45   16   76
6   Aston Villa                          46   18   18   10   86:63   23   72
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: EastYorksAlbion on March 28, 2019, 02:26:20 PM
Imagine if on final day, our place is already cemented and can’t change, but Derby need a win to pip Vile for the final playoff spot ......
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: wbarenno on March 28, 2019, 03:04:44 PM
Imagine if on final day, our place is already cemented and can’t change, but Derby need a win to pip Vile for the final playoff spot ......

11 changes it is then.   ;D also stick the Kitman up front  ;D
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: seteefeet on March 28, 2019, 04:11:40 PM
Blimey, my blue and white striped blinkers glasses have surpassed themselves,    :o  8)

Sadly have Vile sneaking in on goal difference  >:(

1   Norwich City                     46   26   13   7   92:58   34   91
2   West Bromwich Albion       46   25   10   11   88:56   32   85
3   Leeds United                  46   24   12   10   75:48   27   84
4   Sheffield United                  46   24   11   11   75:43   32   83
5   Bristol City                  46   21   13   12   61:45   16   76
6   Aston Villa                          46   18   18   10   86:63   23   72
Typical glass half full, have us losing 2 games!  ::) ;)
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: Sted1990 on March 28, 2019, 04:12:59 PM
11 changes it is then.   ;D also stick the Kitman up front  ;D

Sadly new rules we can only make 5 changes but that would be enough to lose I imagine.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: 17GD on March 28, 2019, 05:52:07 PM
Imagine if on final day, our place is already cemented and can’t change, but Derby need a win to pip Vile for the final playoff spot ......

Pro athletes view things differently to fans. They have mates in other teams so they're not likely to be swayed in the same way we are.

And I'd be very upset if we basically gave Derby a win just to get one over on the Villa. I always want us to win.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: Black Country Pride on March 28, 2019, 05:58:04 PM
11 changes it is then.   ;D also stick the Kitman up front  ;D

Alongside Boiler Man  ;)
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: ex coseley kid on March 28, 2019, 06:30:12 PM
Blimey, my blue and white striped blinkers glasses have surpassed themselves,    :o  8)

Sadly have Vile sneaking in on goal difference  >:(

1   Norwich City                     46   26   13   7   92:58   34   91
2   West Bromwich Albion       46   25   10   11   88:56   32   85
3   Leeds United                  46   24   12   10   75:48   27   84
4   Sheffield United                  46   24   11   11   75:43   32   83
5   Bristol City                  46   21   13   12   61:45   16   76
6   Aston Villa                          46   18   18   10   86:63   23   72

If nothing else you've made me smile. Definitely cheered me up.

What size straitjacket do you need?
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: garry on March 28, 2019, 06:31:09 PM
Reminds me of the Great Escape, when Portsmouth supporters celebrated their defeat, as it meant Southampton had been relegated.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: AlbionFan on March 29, 2019, 12:00:31 PM
Blimey, my blue and white striped blinkers glasses have surpassed themselves,    :o  8)

Sadly have Vile sneaking in on goal difference  >:(

1   Norwich City                     46   26   13   7   92:58   34   91
2   West Bromwich Albion       46   25   10   11   88:56   32   85
3   Leeds United                  46   24   12   10   75:48   27   84
4   Sheffield United                  46   24   11   11   75:43   32   83
5   Bristol City                  46   21   13   12   61:45   16   76
6   Aston Villa                          46   18   18   10   86:63   23   72

I do really admire your optimism, it has raised spirits and hope. To test it, I’ll take another large “swig” out of the half full glass and, we’ll look at that, lo and behold, it’s still have full, thank you!  :D
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: Webby on March 29, 2019, 09:05:40 PM
This squad will not make the playoffs I'll take bets off people
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: TheJacko2000 on March 29, 2019, 09:11:01 PM
This squad will not make the playoffs I'll take bets off people


This could be a very expensive dozen words.


We're absolute shoe ins for top 6.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: Standaman on March 29, 2019, 11:38:02 PM
It might only need another win at this point to get 6th I wouldn't bet against that.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: costa blanca baggie on March 30, 2019, 01:09:05 AM
This squad will not make the playoffs I'll take bets off people
But you wouldn’t really, would you?
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: AlbionFan on March 30, 2019, 10:40:25 AM
This squad will not make the playoffs I'll take bets off people

And what odds would you be offering?
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: SmethDan on March 30, 2019, 02:09:01 PM

This could be a very expensive dozen words.


We're absolute shoe ins for top 6.

If I've read Webby's post correctly he's stated the squad won't make the play offs.

Top two perhaps?
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: baggiemart on March 30, 2019, 02:46:10 PM
I think Leeds will miss out on automatic. So 2 defs for the play offs are Leeds and us finishing 3rd and 4th don't know which way around.

The next 2 places are a lottery its so close.  i have a feeling Villa will miss out. They have some tough fixtures , Norwich at home last match. Leeds away last away match and they have also got to go to Sheff wed which brings into account the Steve Bruce factor.

The other 2 I think will be  Boro and Derby who have an easy run in.

So could be us against Derby again in the play Offs ..................  Deja Vu ???
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: hunsletbaggie on March 30, 2019, 07:40:09 PM
All my mates have been texting me saying Leeds are nailed on top two now.
Apparently all the players were celebrating like they had won promotion at the end of the game today.
I hope they do go straight up because I couldn't stand losing to them again in the play offs sooner take playing the vile and Sheff Utd over the Leeds scumballs
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: TheJacko2000 on March 30, 2019, 07:52:17 PM
At the end of the day they were only playing Millwall. Still see them tailing off badly as Bielsa sides do. If we finish above Sheffield United then we won't be in the play offs imo.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: KN22 on March 30, 2019, 08:04:20 PM
This squad will not make the playoffs I'll take bets off people

How do we place bets please??
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: morecambewba on April 07, 2019, 12:00:11 PM
presuming we end up in playoffs. anyone know when games will be.cant see any exact dates yet.. if we finish 3rd or 4th will we be home or away in first leg?
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: BAGGIE5 on April 07, 2019, 12:02:29 PM
3rd or 4th is at home 2nd leg. Usually the Saturday after the season ends.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: TheJacko2000 on April 07, 2019, 12:05:19 PM
presuming we end up in playoffs. anyone know when games will be.cant see any exact dates yet.. if we finish 3rd or 4th will we be home or away in first leg?


SF dates to be confirmed as per EFL and FA websites. We would be away in the 1st leg if we finish top 4.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: morecambewba on April 07, 2019, 12:14:37 PM
thanks to both for quick replies
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: baggie82 on April 07, 2019, 02:58:54 PM
I don't fancy us, players are weak and unconvincing. The whole club is a mess. Wouldn't surprise me if Villa turned us over.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: elkiellis on April 07, 2019, 07:37:39 PM
we are definitely going to make them,but I really cant see us getting past the semis
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: AlbionBest on April 07, 2019, 07:39:12 PM
We'll make them but we are just a rudderless shambles at the moment so no expectation to get through the semis at the moment.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: tuamigos on April 08, 2019, 09:15:57 AM
I don't fancy us, players are weak and unconvincing. The whole club is a mess. Wouldn't surprise me if Villa turned us over.
They are certainly the form team at the moment.
I would put money on them for promotion rather than us at the minute
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: WBAinDEVON on April 08, 2019, 09:24:54 AM
its going to be painful
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: baggiemart on April 08, 2019, 09:30:18 AM
I think we still need 2 more wins.

76 pts should be enough for the play offs.

but if we lose to Bristol and Villa and derby win

Bristol will be 5pts behind with a game in hand.

villa will be 4pts behind.

derby will be 7pts behind with a game in hand and we have to play them last match.

so it looks like squeaky bum time !!!!
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: tuamigos on April 08, 2019, 11:57:28 AM
Pro athletes view things differently to fans. They have mates in other teams so they're not likely to be swayed in the same way we are.

And I'd be very upset if we basically gave Derby a win just to get one over on the Villa. I always want us to win.

Oh and me  ;)
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: wbarenno on April 08, 2019, 12:30:05 PM
We will beat hull and Rotherham to home to guarantee our play off spot
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: Mikkyk on April 08, 2019, 12:31:57 PM
I've done the calculator/predictor thing and got:

3rd Leeds
4th Us
5th Bristol City
6th Villa

Also got Vile on goal difference like a previous poster.

Tomorrow's game will be a very good marker of where we stand - unfortunately I can't seeing it being good.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: seteefeet on April 08, 2019, 01:37:35 PM
3rd Sheff Utd
4th Villa
5th Us
6th Bristol City

Sheff Utd or Villa to go up.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: baggiemart on April 08, 2019, 01:57:56 PM
3rd Leeds
4th Us
5th Derby
6th Villa
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: Windmill Baggy on April 08, 2019, 04:53:48 PM

2nd Sheff Utd
3rd Leeds
4th Albion
5th Villa
6th Bristol

I think it's likely there will be no change come the end of the season from the current positions.

I do think both Villa and Bristol will narrow the gap and that there will be no more than 2-3 points between them and Albion, at most.

I would actually prefer to finish 6th and play Leeds in the semi-final as after missing out on automatic the pressure could get to them and our more experienced players could rise to the occasion. Would hope to avoid Villa, but playing them looks inevitable at the minute.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: mulliganstired on April 08, 2019, 08:08:19 PM
1 Norwich
2 Sheff U
3 Leeds - they are losing too often to get top 2
4 Us
5 Villa
6 Derby

Which means we will play Villa in the semis.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: wba_1996 on April 09, 2019, 10:47:59 PM
The play offs are a lottery, and we haven't even bought a ticket. We'll be the only team to ever enter the play offs with a 0% chance of winning them. 
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: stubba on April 09, 2019, 10:52:52 PM
I honestly don’t want to be in the playoffs we will only embarrass ourselves big time, & I could not face playing the seals!!! #worstnightmare
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: Dan on April 09, 2019, 10:57:35 PM
The way we've played after Christmas against any team doing well would make the play offs extremely unlikely. Certainly Leeds or Villa would absolutely batter us right now, and judging from tonight we couldn't handle Bristol City either. That's if we even make the play offs -'Boro are just off 6 losses in a row and the way we're playing I wouldn't be certain that wouldn't happen here either.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: RedHead_Baggie on April 09, 2019, 11:04:30 PM
I honestly don’t want to be in the playoffs we will only embarrass ourselves big time, & I could not face playing the seals!!! #worstnightmare

I don’t want to be in the playoffs either, just prolongs the season for an additional 3 weeks!
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: paulosull on April 09, 2019, 11:04:55 PM
Lose to Preston Saturday and our hope of making play offs under serious pressure, majority of these players aren't good enough and can't wait to get rid of these over paid knobs. Please let Dawson be first one out of door followed by Livermore.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: crazedwbafan18 on April 09, 2019, 11:38:01 PM
The play offs are a lottery, and we haven't even bought a ticket. We'll be the only team to ever enter the play offs with a 0% chance of winning them.
Oh come on. I know we haven’t played well recently but it’s still just 2 defeats! Boro have come out of a 6 match streak losing every single game. We have every chance and fans need to believe this. I don’t get this catastrophic mindset given we have still had some good wins in our last couple of months?
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: overseas baggie on April 09, 2019, 11:42:54 PM
Lose to Preston Saturday and our hope of making play offs under serious pressure, majority of these players aren't good enough and can't wait to get rid of these over paid knobs. Please let Dawson be first one out of door followed by Livermore.

Not really...with our hugely superior goal difference we need an absolute maximum of 78 points, assuming that Derby win all 6 of their remaining games, 76 if Boro win all of their games and 74 if Wednesday win all of theirs.

If we don’t make the playoffs from here then we really won’t deserve the opportunity.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: overseas baggie on April 09, 2019, 11:44:33 PM
Villa play Bristol City at the weekend. Lose that and the 6th playoff spot really is wide open between Villa, Boro, Derby and Wednesday
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: tuamigos on April 10, 2019, 06:33:21 AM
Not really...with our hugely superior goal difference we need an absolute maximum of 78 points, assuming that Derby win all 6 of their remaining games, 76 if Boro win all of their games and 74 if Wednesday win all of theirs.

If we don’t make the playoffs from here then we really won’t deserve the opportunity.

78 Points?
That's 2 wins and 2 draws from our last five games?
So we can only afford 1 loss, 2 at the most if we get 3 wins.
Not looking good is it?
I can see us wanting something from the last game of the season at Derby.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: wbarenno on April 10, 2019, 07:28:18 AM
We’re 9 points above 7th after losing the last two. We might not even need another win to guarantee a play off spot. We will limp into the playoffs and get beat convincingly. Let’s just hope it isn’t villa we play
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: skyclad99 on April 10, 2019, 07:33:33 AM
We’re 9 points above 7th after losing the last two. We might not even need another win to guarantee a play off spot. We will limp into the playoffs and get beat convincingly. Let’s just hope it isn’t villa we play

You know its going to happen....

We will inevitably hear from our friend McSkittle, who will make so many postings he will likely be asked to be a moderator!
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: JamesBcfc on April 10, 2019, 07:59:16 AM
You guys will definitely make the playoffs.

Starting to believe we might somehow make it too.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: gerry m on April 10, 2019, 01:51:08 PM
Starting to think that our players already believe that they will reach the Play offs and have gone into 'Beach football' mode.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: Mister AT on April 11, 2019, 09:18:28 AM
Starting to think that our players already believe that they will reach the Play offs and have gone into 'Beach football' mode.

I said exactly the same to a friend. Once the realistic chance of catching the top two had gone, I think something in the players minds had turned off as we looked so comfortable to finish 4th.

It's also the reason I don't think we are rushing Phillips back and possibly Barry too. The club seem to think we are guaranteed a play off spot, and maybe are just saving Matty and Gareth until the last couple of games of the season to get them back up and running for the playoffs.

The danger of course is, on current form and the form of the clubs below, we could end up fighting for a position in the playoffs.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: SmethDan on April 11, 2019, 09:34:17 AM
Starting to think that our players already believe that they will reach the Play offs and have gone into 'Beach football' mode.

Such a pitiful waste if so, had we won the last two we'd only be three points off the autos and our GD would at the very least closer to that of Leeds.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: Hull Baggie on April 11, 2019, 09:56:36 AM
Playing the way we are I do think we'll manage to stay in the play off places but it'll be in 6th place.

I'm going for:

3rd Sheff Utd
4th Villa
5th Bristol City
6th WBA

Should we somehow get solid at the back and start creating things then I think it'll be

3rd Sheff Utd
4th WBA
5th Villa
6th Bristol City
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: darbolina on April 11, 2019, 10:20:44 AM
Villa all day in the play offs now. Form team.......by far. We'll be embarrassed by them if we play them, bit like us vs Wolves in 2006 (oh happy day).....
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: 17GD on April 11, 2019, 10:30:14 AM
It's geared up for us to have Villa. We had a laugh beating them in the league but I think they'll have the last laugh in the play offs.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: baggiejohn on April 11, 2019, 10:57:48 AM
Villa all day in the play offs now. Form team.......by far. We'll be embarrassed by them if we play them, bit like us vs Wolves in 2006 (oh happy day).....

That ended well didn't it?
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: geoff on April 11, 2019, 12:32:09 PM
Playing the way we are I do think we'll manage to stay in the play off places but it'll be in 6th place.

I'm going for:

3rd Sheff Utd
4th Villa
5th Bristol City
6th WBA

Should we somehow get solid at the back and start creating things then I think it'll be

3rd Sheff Utd
4th WBA
5th Villa
6th Bristol City

If we have enough points for the play offs theirs not a team in them that will not fancy betting us based on our currant form.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: KN22 on April 11, 2019, 12:37:47 PM
Villa all day in the play offs now. Form team.......by far. We'll be embarrassed by them if we play them, bit like us vs Wolves in 2006 (oh happy day).....

I agree with all that you say... except the happy day you refer to was in 2007  ;)
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: cornishbaggie on April 12, 2019, 05:11:36 PM
It's geared up for us to have Villa. We had a laugh beating them in the league but I think they'll have the last laugh in the play offs.

That's the spirit!!  :D
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: Standaman on April 13, 2019, 10:08:19 AM
This weekend could be decisive. The Villa v Bristol game is huge. It is almost a play-off decider if there is a winner it is very difficult to see that team not making the top 6.

 Behind them Boro play Hull who have a slim chance of making top 6 themselves but probably have to beat Boro to make it happen but Boro have to win to close the gap on 6th.

Sheffield United have Millwall at home and will hoping that their rivals Wednesday can get something at Leeds. Wednesday themselves have a slim chance of making the play-offs but can't afford to drop points.

Interesting times

 
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: WBAinDEVON on April 13, 2019, 03:56:05 PM
what's the starting 11 for the first leg hopefully with an inspirational coach on board
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: wba_1996 on April 13, 2019, 05:10:07 PM
Looking pretty nailed on that it's Villa in the play offs Semi. I don't think we have a chance over 2 legs, dithering over appointing a manager has cost us, while Villa acted to get the bloke we should have appointed in the summer. Mind you, had we made a proper appointment back then we wouldn't have been in the play offs.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: TheJacko2000 on April 13, 2019, 05:13:40 PM
Looking pretty nailed on that it's Villa in the play offs Semi. I don't think we have a chance over 2 legs, dithering over appointing a manager has cost us, while Villa acted to get the bloke we should have appointed in the summer. Mind you, had we made a proper appointment back then we wouldn't have been in the play offs.


Villa have taken 1 point off us this season. Fancy us over two legs.


Still waiting to see the messianic Dean Smith achieve anything without Jack Grealish (or against us, with him.)
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: WBAinDEVON on April 13, 2019, 05:15:05 PM
stay were we are first leg away
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: WBAinDEVON on April 13, 2019, 05:17:48 PM
whoever we play I will be in Benidorm for the two legs, anyone else there :) back for the final and I shall get a ticket, we don't have 40000 supporters do we
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: AlbionFan on April 13, 2019, 05:20:49 PM
Looking pretty nailed on that it's Villa in the play offs Semi. I don't think we have a chance over 2 legs, dithering over appointing a manager has cost us, while Villa acted to get the bloke we should have appointed in the summer. Mind you, had we made a proper appointment back then we wouldn't have been in the play offs.

I admit to clutching at straws here, but I think that could work in our favour. vile fans will consider that they only have to turn up and that sometimes rubs off on the players. Complacency is a commodity I hope that the vile have in abundance.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: GREGMT on April 13, 2019, 05:23:11 PM
Can we close down the 6 point gap on Sheff Utd and take 3rd place?  To do that we need to win all games and them to stumble like today.  Millwall at home is one of the easiest you could have.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: wba_1996 on April 13, 2019, 05:27:46 PM

Villa have taken 1 point off us this season. Fancy us over two legs.


Still waiting to see the messianic Dean Smith achieve anything without Jack Grealish (or against us, with him.)

We played them under Bruce and again when Dean Smith hadn't had much time to get his ideas across. They've just beat Bristol City without Grealish.

Doesn't matter who we appoint now, not enough time to get anything other that the very basics sorted for the play offs. All on Jenkins' head.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: silver surfer on April 13, 2019, 05:31:39 PM
I admit to clutching at straws here, but I think that could work in our favour. vile fans will consider that they only have to turn up and that sometimes rubs off on the players. Complacency is a commodity I hope that the vile have in abundance.
complacency? You mean arrogance as per usual? Most the ones I know are trying to work out who they’re going to be playing at Wembley.
I still think they’ll be sweating over 6th place come the last game of the season.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: TheJacko2000 on April 13, 2019, 05:58:34 PM
We played them under Bruce and again when Dean Smith hadn't had much time to get his ideas across. They've just beat Bristol City without Grealish.

Doesn't matter who we appoint now, not enough time to get anything other that the very basics sorted for the play offs. All on Jenkins' head.


Bruce had been gone 2 months when we drew with them at home and 4 and a half months when we beat them away.


Smith just isn't very good.


Overall: played 30 won 15 drawn 9 lost 6 points 54
With Grealish: played 16 won 12 drawn 2 lost 2 points 38
Without Grealish: played 14 won 3 drawn 7 lost 4 points 16


I can only assume most people don't realise how stark the difference is.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: Nice1Cyrille on April 13, 2019, 06:08:00 PM
I could be wrong but haven't Villa won 8 games in a row and their next 2 games are Bolton and Millwall.
I think Villa are the team to watch out for just by current form alone.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: baggie82 on April 13, 2019, 06:18:28 PM
Villa have taken 1 point off us this season. Fancy us over two legs.

Port Vale did the double over us in 1992/93 only for us to beat them 3-0 at Wembley.

Leeds look too good for us so I hope they get second. Villa, Sheff Utd and the rest we can deal with. Not that it's going to be easy.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: Baggies on April 13, 2019, 06:31:56 PM
Alex Neil has 2 promotions via the playoffs. I’d suggest that is probably the key driver behind us appointing him.

Either way, I think we go into the play offs as third or even in some circumstances fourth favourites. Whoever misses out from Sheffield Utd/Leeds Utd will be rightly the favourites, and then you have to fancy Villa now that Smith has got them ticking. They have players in Abraham/Grealish who are prem players playing in the championship, and who will be in the England side come September. I would even be wary of a side who makes a late dash for the playoffs like Derby, as if they power through at the end they could be the form side going into the knock outs.

We have a dangerous front 2 - the best in the league (I remember being scoffed at when I suggested we should look to get two strikers who could be capable of getting 20 goals a season - never happens apparently). Behind them though, we are very unstable. Praying that Johansson is now settling in and hope that Phillips can find form and stay fit in these last few games.

I won’t go in with much hope though.

Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: mulliganstired on April 13, 2019, 06:48:00 PM
Looking pretty nailed on that it's Villa in the play offs Semi. I don't think we have a chance over 2 legs, dithering over appointing a manager has cost us, while Villa acted to get the bloke we should have appointed in the summer. Mind you, had we made a proper appointment back then we wouldn't have been in the play offs.
I'd rather have them over two legs than at Wemberlee, I'd hate to lose to them there.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: wba_1996 on April 13, 2019, 06:51:12 PM
I'd say we're distant 4th favourites because we're by far the least settled team in contention. Villa comfortable favourites, then I think it will be close between Sheff Utd and whichever of Bristol City/Derby/Boro get 6th. If we finalise whatever the plan is for the next manager asap, keep everyone fit and get back to basics defensively we may have a punchers' chance. It's going to have to be a sit back and counter attack job though:

Johnstone
Dawson - Bartley - Hegazi
Holgate - Phillips - Johansen - Brunt - Gibbs
Gayle - Rodriguez
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: GREGMT on April 13, 2019, 07:00:58 PM
Lets just win the last 4 matches and see where it takes us.

I can't believe people saying we are 4th favourites.  The 6th place team whoever it is are poor.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: BalisPen on April 13, 2019, 07:09:32 PM
I'd rather have them over two legs than at Wemberlee, I'd hate to lose to them there.

Agreed, definitely don't want to lose to them at Wembley. Best to play them over 2 legs and if we lose we can hope for the other finalist does what we could not.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: elkiellis on April 13, 2019, 08:16:53 PM
We are definitely in them,depends on what players we have available,if we get Villa at anypoint just manmark Grealish, I know they won today without him but they wont get promoted without him they aren't that good,our defence just worries me against any team let alone the top 6.
I think we will end up fourth and play Bristol city in Semis and Shan last week lulled them into a false sense of security.
 
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: GREGMT on April 13, 2019, 09:12:56 PM
There's a tremendous chance that Sheff Utd will collapse in their final 4 matches.  Billy Sharp went off with an injured hamstring today.  Their players must be very, very tired by now having slogged away for 8 months. Wilder said their reserves won't be trusted any longer after a 0-1 loss to Barnet in the FA Cup in January.  It looks like they are limping badly towards the finishing line.  It's imperative we hammer Hull, Reading and Rotherham in the next 3 to really turn up the heat.  A 3rd place finish would be a good outcome for us.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: gazberg on April 13, 2019, 11:02:04 PM
Wilder said their reserves won't be trusted any longer after a 0-1 loss to Barnet in the FA Cup in January.

Yep can confirm i lost £500 quid on an acca on this game. Their backups are utter garbage and may they rot in hell.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: baggiemart on April 14, 2019, 11:32:02 AM
Vile have won 8 games on the trot , Bolton will probably be 9 . Then the rot could set in.

They could just lose momentum as the play offs begin. Millwall will be tough but they could win that one as well. Then they play Leeds away and Norwich at home , then the play offs.

There is no way they will extend their run to 14 games . After the Millwall game they will have some draws and losses.

For me its no a cert that we will play the vile in the semi final of the playoffs.

We won't catch 3rd place and 6th place won't catch us so we will finish 4th or 5th and with the viles form they will finish 4th or 5th . So bring it on !!
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: baggiejohn on April 14, 2019, 11:45:56 AM
Vile have won 8 games on the trot , Bolton will probably be 9 . Then the rot could set in.

They could just lose momentum as the play offs begin. Millwall will be tough but they could win that one as well. Then they play Leeds away and Norwich at home , then the play offs.

There is no way they will extend their run to 14 games . After the Millwall game they will have some draws and losses.

For me its no a cert that we will play the vile in the semi final of the playoffs.

We won't catch 3rd place and 6th place won't catch us so we will finish 4th or 5th and with the viles form they will finish 4th or 5th . So bring it on !!

Leeds might give Villa a game, I think Norwich will be on the beach by their game.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: WBAinDEVON on April 15, 2019, 03:53:58 PM
Sat 11 ,Tuesday 14 & wed 15 championship playoff dates
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: Albionic on April 15, 2019, 04:20:34 PM
I've got a horrible feeling derby are going to get into play offs  Derby / US  / vile / SUFC  - going to be horrible!
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: AlbionFan on April 15, 2019, 04:33:37 PM
Here are the key dates to look out for as the season winds down:
Sunday 5 May - Final day of the Championship season 12:30KO

Saturday 11 May - Championship semi A first leg 12:30KO / Championship semi B first leg 17:15KO

Tuesday 14 May - Championship semi A second leg 19:45KO

Wednesday 15 May - Championship semi B second leg 19:45KO

Monday 27 May - Championship play-off final 15:00KO
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: east-stand-nick on April 16, 2019, 09:26:55 AM
Here are the key dates to look out for as the season winds down:
Sunday 5 May - Final day of the Championship season 12:30KO

Saturday 11 May - Championship semi A first leg 12:30KO / Championship semi B first leg 17:15KO

Tuesday 14 May - Championship semi A second leg 19:45KO

Wednesday 15 May - Championship semi B second leg 19:45KO

Monday 27 May - Championship play-off final 15:00KO

Cheers for that. At least I'm off work for the second leg which should be the home one.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: Atomic on April 16, 2019, 09:43:48 AM
I'm presuming we will be in Semi final "B" if we finish forth. Is that correct?
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: mulliganstired on April 16, 2019, 09:47:45 AM
I've got a horrible feeling derby are going to get into play offs  Derby / US  / vile / SUFC  - going to be horrible!
You've said horrible twice, can I say it again, it's horrible, I am not looking forward to this.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: AlbionFan on April 16, 2019, 10:03:51 AM
I'm presuming we will be in Semi final "B" if we finish forth. Is that correct?

That would appear to be logical, but I haven’t  been unable to determine that for certain
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: tommcneill on April 16, 2019, 10:06:40 AM
Im on a stag do for the first leg!!

Ill be getting smashed watching that in Newquay
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: BigFrank20 on April 16, 2019, 11:09:42 AM
Im on a stag do for the first leg!!

Ill be getting smashed watching that in Newquay
I can trump that! I'll be in Memphis for the esecond leg then on my way to Albuquerque but will be back in time for the final if I can book a ticket on line from there
COYB
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: wbarenno on April 16, 2019, 11:16:33 AM
If we get villa I wouldn’t be surprised if we were semi final A. Can’t see the police allowing villa Albion at 5.30pm Especially after the cup game a few years ago
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: Powelly on April 16, 2019, 11:25:32 AM
I'm presuming we will be in Semi final "B" if we finish forth. Is that correct?

They will announce A and B games once the season has ended.

I presume this is to avoid having a derby like Albion Villa being a 5:15 kick off.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: dannywba93 on April 16, 2019, 05:12:40 PM
Does anyone know if the home leg of the play offs will be included in the season ticket or will all season ticket holders have to purchase a ticket at a cost??
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: OldburyWBA on April 16, 2019, 05:21:05 PM
Does anyone know if the home leg of the play offs will be included in the season ticket or will all season ticket holders have to purchase a ticket at a cost??
You will have to pay, season ticket is only for standard league games
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: The Joust on April 16, 2019, 07:11:48 PM
You will have to pay, season ticket is only for standard league games

Are you sure about that? I though it was classed as a ‘home league game’ and was added to your season ticket ..?
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: leeiswba on April 16, 2019, 07:13:35 PM
Are you sure about that? I though it was classed as a ‘home league game’ and was added to your season ticket ..?

No you will definitely have to pay for a ticket for the home leg.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: OldburyWBA on April 16, 2019, 07:14:29 PM
Are you sure about that? I though it was classed as a ‘home league game’ and was added to your season ticket ..?

League games are the 23 home games only (or 19 in Prem), play off is an extra game
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: TheJacko2000 on April 16, 2019, 07:23:18 PM
It will be ticketed like an away game I would think.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: Adder on April 16, 2019, 09:57:19 PM
They will announce A and B games once the season has ended.

I presume this is to avoid having a derby like Albion Villa being a 5:15 kick off.
Depends who wins out on the choice, Sky or the Police. Sky will view us against Villa to be the bigger of the games and 5:15 is when the bigger TV audience is to be had.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: Wigmore on April 16, 2019, 10:34:01 PM
Depends who wins out on the choice, Sky or the Police. Sky will view us against Villa to be the bigger of the games and 5:15 is when the bigger TV audience is to be had.
Glad to see someone who is confident enough for us to make the PO's.  :D
Are you on the right board? I thought we had to see the worst scenario possible for all things connected with WBAFC and post accordingly. ;)
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: SmethDan on April 17, 2019, 01:26:50 AM
Does anyone know if the home leg of the play offs will be included in the season ticket or will all season ticket holders have to purchase a ticket at a cost??

Supporter:

'Hello  Mr Jenkins, will the home fixture in our play off tie be free for entry to HSTHs?

Mark Jenkins:

"🤣🤗🤣🤗🤣🤗🤣 #rollingaroundonmyarseandlaughingmycockoff" ............ 😉 .
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: 17GD on April 17, 2019, 07:36:28 PM
Not entirely sure, but would imagine this type of game would bring the points system into play with regards tickets.

Also, a bit useless but perhaps worth knowing (unless it's changed) that goals scored in the play offs do not count towards players goal scoring tally from the league.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: ronnie_allen on April 18, 2019, 09:29:21 AM
Depends who wins out on the choice, Sky or the Police. Sky will view us against Villa to be the bigger of the games and 5:15 is when the bigger TV audience is to be had.

If it was Leeds United in the other semi-final, particularly against "Frank Lampard's" Derby County I could see that game being the bigger draw for Sky.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: alex1 on April 19, 2019, 05:55:22 PM
If we finish 4th it looks like it will be v Villa, but if we finished 3rd it could be v Pulis.
Don't know which would be the more difficult. Obvioulsy it would be a different type of game against those 2 teams.   
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: GREGMT on April 19, 2019, 06:15:15 PM
Villa would be the hardest assignment all day long.  Boro have been trash lately and their fans want Pulis gone
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: tuamigos on April 19, 2019, 06:17:35 PM
If we finish 4th it looks like it will be v Villa, but if we finished 3rd it could be v Pulis.
Don't know which would be the more difficult. Obvioulsy it would be a different type of game against those 2 teams.

At the risk of sounding obvious if we hope to get promoted we have to beat what's in front of us
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: hunsletbaggie on April 19, 2019, 06:52:52 PM
 looks like its going to be the Vile.
Does anyone know if the allocation for tickets for away fans will be the same as in the league games? 
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: alex1 on April 19, 2019, 07:07:38 PM
At the risk of sounding obvious if we hope to get promoted we have to beat what's in front of us

The point I was making is that if it is us v Villa, its like 2 footballing teams with goals in them going at one another. If its us v Boro, its one footballing team v anti-football team playing for a 1-0. I'm not sure which game I'd fancy us more for.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on April 19, 2019, 07:15:31 PM
Villa would be the hardest assignment all day long.  Boro have been trash lately and their fans want Pulis gone
I know how they feel.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: Baggy nerd on April 19, 2019, 07:28:41 PM
Pulis always beats his former teams as he did again today, so they are the ones to avoid.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: Albionic on April 19, 2019, 07:51:39 PM
Villa would be the hardest assignment all day long.  Boro have been trash lately and their fans want Pulis gone
Problem is that a rubbish performance from a Pulis side doesn’t mean a defeat for them
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: liverbaggie on April 19, 2019, 08:21:41 PM
What's the odds of the 2nd & 3rd place teams losing their last 3 matches and us winning our last 3?
If so,were up!
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: Tatnam baggie on April 19, 2019, 09:07:59 PM
What's the odds of the 2nd & 3rd place teams losing their last 3 matches and us winning our last 3?
If so,were up!
unlikely as both Leeds & Sheffield United have to play Ipswich and there Sh*t
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: mulliganstired on April 19, 2019, 09:34:47 PM
unlikely as both Leeds & Sheffield United have to play Ipswich and there Sh*t
but they might lose their other two...
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: zippyandbungle on April 19, 2019, 09:50:46 PM
So annoying, we had chances vs Sheff weds, Sheffield Utd, boro etc etc to have absolutely walked promotion.

Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: Albertbaggie on April 19, 2019, 10:15:53 PM
So annoying, we had chances vs Sheff weds, Sheffield Utd, boro etc etc to have absolutely walked promotion.
But we could also have lost both Sheff Wed games, rather than draw, got a point with a handball v Villa, the forest penalty (deserved to lose both Forest games in fact), the last winner at QPR etc etc
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: baggie96 on April 20, 2019, 08:28:49 AM
It’s going to be Villa, I’d be trying so get the best xi sorted which I think is;

                   Johnstone
          Dawson Bartley Hegazi
Holgate                              Gibbs
                    Brunt
         Phillips           Johansen
                Jrod Gayle

The problem area is the midfield, against Grealish and McGinn we could be in massive trouble but going forwards we will hurt them.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: Atomic on April 20, 2019, 09:59:56 AM
It’s going to be Villa, I’d be trying so get the best xi sorted which I think is;

                   Johnstone
          Dawson Bartley Hegazi
Holgate                              Gibbs
                    Brunt
         Phillips           Johansen
                Jrod Gayle

The problem area is the midfield, against Grealish and McGinn we could be in massive trouble but going forwards we will hurt them.


We need one of them, preferably both to get injured. Abraham is injured so that's one down hopefully.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: BigFrank20 on April 20, 2019, 10:13:09 AM
looks like its going to be the Vile.
Does anyone know if the allocation for tickets for away fans will be the same as in the league games?
A reminder that they cut our allocation at seal park to 2100 when we gave them 2800 and they robbed us for £29.00 when we only charged them £20.00 so maybe payback time?
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: cads_ap_albion on April 20, 2019, 10:17:24 AM
A reminder that they cut our allocation at seal park to 2100 when we gave them 2800 and they robbed us for £29.00 when we only charged them £20.00 so maybe payback time?

We would have to charge our fans the same price. I.e. if we charge them £50 at wba, our fans buying tickets would have to pay the same to attend the home game.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: KH Baggies on April 20, 2019, 12:32:46 PM
We should always pay more for the privilege of attending such a great ground!!!!
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: paulosull on April 20, 2019, 12:48:06 PM
Need to cut their allocation for Hawthorns encounter and make sure no seal gets his hands on home tickets.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: wbawill on April 20, 2019, 12:57:55 PM
Need to cut their allocation for Hawthorns encounter and make sure no seal gets his hands on home tickets.

Pretty sure under league rules we have to offer them 10% of the capacity. The same applied to them, but the police got involved and limited how many we were allowed to have. I can't see them changing their mind about that when the game has even more at stake. They should consider limiting the number of seals allowed at the hawthorns as well to make it fair!
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: cads_ap_albion on April 20, 2019, 05:19:14 PM
It's all about practicalities and physical divisions of the stand.

If giving them less than  10% means that the stand doesn't work in terms of divisions and safety, it won't happen sadly.

Having said that 10% of 41k is 4100 and we had 2000?

So clearly, rules are there to be broken, if you push them. If we can justify safety then give them 1350. That's an equivalent percentage to what we got at Villa.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: hunsletbaggie on April 20, 2019, 07:56:33 PM
It's all about practicalities and physical divisions of the stand.

If giving them less than  10% means that the stand doesn't work in terms of divisions and safety, it won't happen sadly.

Having said that 10% of 41k is 4100 and we had 2000?

So clearly, rules are there to be broken, if you push them. If we can justify safety then give them 1350. That's an equivalent percentage to what we got at Villa.
The 10% rule only comes into play if the clubs capacity is less than 20 thousand.
Grounds over 20,000 all you are guaranteed is a minimum of 2,000 but clubs can obviously give more if they want to.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: cads_ap_albion on April 20, 2019, 09:12:07 PM
The 10% rule only comes into play if the clubs capacity is less than 20 thousand.
Grounds over 20,000 all you are guaranteed is a minimum of 2,000 but clubs can obviously give more if they want to.

Thanks for that.

In which case, let's give villa the minimum.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: skyclad99 on April 22, 2019, 07:17:35 AM
Unless there is an epic fail over the next couple of games then it will be the vile. No doubt they are in very good form at the moment and we should not be complacent with our success against them so far this season. It will be a good semi and I don't fear them at all. However I would rather meet them in the semis as opposed to troop all the way to London and get done there......

and we all know a derby is a great leveller :)
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: BigFrank20 on April 22, 2019, 07:51:13 AM
Unless there is an epic fail over the next couple of games then it will be the vile. No doubt they are in very good form at the moment and we should not be complacent with our success against them so far this season. It will be a good semi and I don't fear them at all. However I would rather meet them in the semis as opposed to troop all the way to London and get done there......
and we all know a derby is a great leveller :)
I'm with you on this Mr Clad but a final at Wembley against the seals would have been one hell of a grand day out, just imagine the trains there and back let alone inside the stadium and the pubs around and about!
COYB
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: iwastherein68 on April 22, 2019, 10:31:45 AM
Premature talk of play-offs . We can still finish second. All this talk of losing to the Villa is really pi@@ing me off.
By the way Jacko, if you really think Sam Field will never play for us again, lets see the colour of your money :P
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: ex coseley kid on April 22, 2019, 10:58:25 AM
Premature talk of play-offs . We can still finish second. All this talk of losing to the Villa is really pi@@ing me off.
By the way Jacko, if you really think Sam Field will never play for us again, lets see the colour of your money :P

No disrespect but that would take a minor miracle. The Blades and Leeds would have to throw the towel in right now.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: OldburyWBA on April 22, 2019, 11:41:59 AM
Lads, this thread is to discuss the possible playoffs etc as in who we are likely to face at some stage but seems its turned into just a random thread now.

There are plenty of other topics to discuss individual players or clubs so this topic will be locked if this continues.

Please use the Championship thread in the General Sports forum to discuss teams except the vile who have their own thread.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: east-stand-nick on April 22, 2019, 05:01:15 PM
Pretty much certain to be Villa now, just have to make sure we finish 4th.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: WBAinDEVON on April 22, 2019, 05:04:02 PM
we need to be playing footballers who are most likely going to start the first playoff game for some momentum. tall order getting past the villa they are on fire. for me its an ordinary season to say the least
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: ex coseley kid on April 22, 2019, 05:35:50 PM
To be honest I think Derby could yet be the dark horse.

Us against the Vile, Leeds v Derby. Albion v Derby revenge for 2007??
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: 17GD on April 22, 2019, 05:49:52 PM
To be honest I think Derby could yet be the dark horse.

Us against the Vile, Leeds v Derby. Albion v Derby revenge for 2007??

I was thinking this. Would be lovely to beat Villa and then get revenge for 2007. But Villa are hitting form at the right time.

Out of Leeds, Derby, Boro and Bristol City I think I'd rather face Derby in the final. Not sure why as they beat us earlier in the season. Just think Boro would beat us again.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: gazberg on April 22, 2019, 05:52:07 PM
I think Villa will lose next week at Leeds. Leeds need it so much more.  I think Villa might rest a few players from now too. WHat impact that has on their confidence who knows.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: jonny on April 22, 2019, 06:07:37 PM
Villa to lose to Leeds, we’ll beat Rotherham to secure 4th, play 2nd string v Derby then release the big hitters
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: wbawill on April 22, 2019, 06:56:48 PM
Now we're guaranteed to be in the play offs, anyone have an inkling when the tickets for the away leg will go on sale?
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: tuamigos on April 22, 2019, 07:08:43 PM
I would love to beat the scum from aston in the semi's then Derby at Wembley. We owe them
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: frazzle on April 22, 2019, 07:14:45 PM
To be honest I can’t see us getting through the play offs. Most teams around us have a settled identity and each has played well against us at points this season. Whereas we don’t know what we are or where we are going. Phillips returning to midfield plus fit wing backs and the strikers playing as a two gives me hope but I think getting through in two legs could be beyond us.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: wbarenno on April 22, 2019, 07:21:58 PM
Villa to lose to Leeds, we’ll beat Rotherham to secure 4th, play 2nd string v Derby then release the big hitters

If Sheffield United beat Ipswich Saturday which you would expect them to then Leeds going up automatic is more or less impossible. Wouldn’t be surprised if villa get a result at Leeds now  >:(
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: jamesh_91 on April 22, 2019, 07:29:39 PM
Fully expect Villa to beat Leeds and we will relegate Rotheram. That leaves us two points behind them on the final day with both teams probably resting players. They've got Ipswich and we've got Derby so it's a long shot but we still have a chance without having to go gung ho and risk injuries.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: iwastherein68 on April 22, 2019, 08:00:21 PM
If Villa supporters come on here, they will be pi$$ing themselves. For goodness sake we can beat them over two legs, they ain't
Aston Barcelona. Some folk on here have got a serious inferiority complex. We have a great opportunity to take them down a peg or two, and then beat Leeds in the Final. What's not to like about that? The way folk are talking, we may as well not buy a ticket for  Villa Park, save the money.
I'll be there bring it on!
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: paulosull on April 22, 2019, 08:25:28 PM
Fully expect Villa to beat Leeds and we will relegate Rotheram. That leaves us two points behind them on the final day with both teams probably resting players. They've got Ipswich and we've got Derby so it's a long shot but we still have a chance without having to go gung ho and risk injuries.
don't you mean two points a head of them? 3 points today and three points on Saturday would have cemented fourth spot and the way Leeds are playing we could have knicked third place. Experienced coach I believe would of got more out of these players than Jimmy.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: hillsm on April 22, 2019, 08:50:15 PM
I can see us beating Rotherham but will be relying partially on Norwich on the last day to get something against Villa for us to finish fourth as I can also see Derby turning us over as they will need the points to clinch sixth spot. Looks like Norwich will have to win that last match to have a chance at the title as Sheffield Utd are certainties to beat Ipswich this coming Saturday.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: jamesh_91 on April 22, 2019, 09:23:25 PM
don't you mean two points a head of them? 3 points today and three points on Saturday would have cemented fourth spot and the way Leeds are playing we could have knicked third place. Experienced coach I believe would of got more out of these players than Jimmy.

Sorry by them I mean Leeds not Villa.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: Albertbaggie on April 23, 2019, 12:01:38 AM
I think Villa will lose next week at Leeds. Leeds need it so much more.  I think Villa might rest a few players from now too. WHat impact that has on their confidence who knows.
Leeds have blown it big style. No chance of automatic now, given Sheff U have Ipswich to play.
Law of averages say Villa will lose soon though surely.
If I was them, I'd want to get a defeat out of the way before play-offs.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: BoingFlyer on April 23, 2019, 08:01:32 AM
Leeds have blown it big style. No chance of automatic now, given Sheff U have Ipswich to play.
Law of averages say Villa will lose soon though surely.
If I was them, I'd want to get a defeat out of the way before play-offs.

Villa's late run of form has more to do with the opposition they have been playing. Leeds won't roll over for them and will be desperate to find some form if they do have to go in the the play off lottery. Frank Lampards Derby County are the one to watch, hitting form at just the right time.

Win the next one and play a second string against Derby!
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: skyclad99 on April 23, 2019, 08:12:18 AM
Villa's late run of form has more to do with the opposition they have been playing. Leeds won't roll over for them and will be desperate to find some form if they do have to go in the the play off lottery. Frank Lampards Derby County are the one to watch, hitting form at just the right time.

Win the next one and play a second string against Derby!

Do you think? I thought they were bang average yesterday against QPR. Gifted a penalty in the 94th minute......

I think everybody wants 'Frank Lampards Derby' to do well because of that very reason, but they are nothing special [my opinion of course].
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: mulliganstired on April 23, 2019, 08:23:14 AM
To be honest I can’t see us getting through the play offs. Most teams around us have a settled identity and each has played well against us at points this season. Whereas we don’t know what we are or where we are going. Phillips returning to midfield plus fit wing backs and the strikers playing as a two gives me hope but I think getting through in two legs could be beyond us.
I think you are right that a fit and firing Phillips could well be the difference for us.  I'd give him half a game against Rotherham and then wrap him in cotton wool till the playoffs.

Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: darbolina on April 23, 2019, 09:16:49 AM
Anything can happen in the play offs but the most settled teams and those in form usually go up. We're neither of these - we're inconsistent. However, we have the sort of firepower which should frighten any team we face. We don't need to play well to get JRod or Gayle on the score sheet. That's our strength. Therefore, we should aim for clean sheets, keeping it tight and using the strength we have up front. We cannot outplay the likes of villa as they beat us at their game.

Villa do look clear favourites at the moment based on a settled team, momentum and form.



Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: crazedwbafan18 on April 23, 2019, 09:20:25 AM
Anything can happen in the play offs but the most settled teams and those in form usually go up. We're neither of these - we're inconsistent. However, we have the sort of firepower which should frighten any team we face. We don't need to play well to get JRod or Gayle on the score sheet. That's our strength. Therefore, we should aim for clean sheets, keeping it tight and using the strength we have up front. We cannot outplay the likes of villa as they beat us at their game.

Villa do look clear favourites at the moment based on a settled team, momentum and form.
Yep, I'm far more worried about our defensive frailties. A clean sheet against Rotherham would be the minimum i'd be looking for now, and build from there. Not a chance we'd keep a clean sheet against Villa really. As it stands, i could see a 3-1 win at villa park and then a 1-1 at the hawthorns. That'd be my prediction, hope I'm wrong!
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: Droitwich Baggie on April 23, 2019, 10:05:57 AM
If Leeds lose the next 2 and we win our next 2, we go above them and they may have to play the vile lot in the first games of the play offs.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: AlbionBest on April 23, 2019, 10:53:57 AM
Do you think? I thought they were bang average yesterday against QPR. Gifted a penalty in the 94th minute......

I think everybody wants 'Frank Lampards Derby' to do well because of that very reason, but they are nothing special [my opinion of course].

Agree. I don't think they have hit any kind of form and were very lucky yesterday against a poor QPR injury stricken side.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: AlbionBest on April 23, 2019, 10:56:34 AM
Anyone know when they are likely to start announcing the away ticket criteria ?
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: popmonkey on April 23, 2019, 11:02:23 AM
I think it will depend on the opponents (allocation etc) but I'd take a look at the Derby sales criteria as a guide, I cant see it being much different to that one.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: AlbionBest on April 23, 2019, 11:11:46 AM
I think it will depend on the opponents (allocation etc) but I'd take a look at the Derby sales criteria as a guide, I cant see it being much different to that one.

That would make sense but you never know with the Albion !
Plus how many tickets actually get put on sale vs how many do the club keep back for their staff/hangers on allocation ?
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: KN22 on April 23, 2019, 12:48:25 PM
If Leeds lose the next 2 and we win our next 2, we go above them and they may have to play the vile lot in the first games of the play offs.

That means Leeds have to lose to Ipswich and we beat Derby. Just don't see it myself.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: ronnie_allen on April 23, 2019, 02:42:20 PM
That means Leeds have to lose to Ipswich and we beat Derby. Just don't see it myself.

If Leeds draw one game we could also go above them. Once we beat Derby and Rotherham. Very much not see this happening. Think Sky would be delighted to have a Leeds vs Frank Lampard's 'Derby County' play-off.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: tommcneill on April 23, 2019, 04:41:47 PM
If Leeds draw one game we could also go above them. Once we beat Derby and Rotherham. Very much not see this happening. Think Sky would be delighted to have a Leeds vs Frank Lampard's 'Derby County' play-off.
Think they want a Villa v Derby PO Final..Terry and Lampard

As long as we’re in it I don’t care who else makes it...we’re more than capable of beating all of them
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: lewisant on April 24, 2019, 09:23:44 AM
Who would you all rather have over two legs? For me it'd be Derby or Villa. I think Leeds would edge us over 2 legs, it'd be mega close with Villa and i think have enough quality to go past Derby over 2 legs.

Alternatively - in a one game play off final who do you fear the most? Despite saying Villa over two legs i'd say right now on current form you'd have to fear Villa in one game.

But it's the play-offs and anything can happen. Just need one good or bad game from yourselves or the opposition and that may be the difference.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: Mister AT on April 24, 2019, 09:40:56 AM
Who would you all rather have over two legs? For me it'd be Derby or Villa. I think Leeds would edge us over 2 legs, it'd be mega close with Villa and i think have enough quality to go past Derby over 2 legs.

Alternatively - in a one game play off final who do you fear the most? Despite saying Villa over two legs i'd say right now on current form you'd have to fear Villa in one game.

But it's the play-offs and anything can happen. Just need one good or bad game from yourselves or the opposition and that may be the difference.

Think you've hit the nail on the head there. A lot of the games tend to be quite tight and its the odd bit of class that determines the game. That's what worries me the most. We don't always look the most solid defensively and I think that will be our downfall.

Over two legs I would fancy us against whoever finishes 6th - Derby or Bristol City. If Boro finishes 6th I think that would be a tough test for us but I would fancy us to do them over 2 legs.

Not too sure on Leeds and Villa. I actually think it would benefit us more if our 2nd game was away from home. We seem better when teams open up abit rather than sit back.

On form you would obviously say Villa will be favourites to win the play offs.

I think Matt Phillips could be a key player for us in the play offs - with him returning from injury now and getting some minutes in - he could really make the difference in a tight game. Plus keeping Gayle fit will always give us that chance of nicking a goal.

Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: SmethDan on April 24, 2019, 10:32:51 AM
........in a one game play off final who do you fear the most?.......

None of them, always respect an opponent's capabilities but never fear them.

Fear cripples, respect focuses the mind.

naughty word 'em all and COYB  8) .
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: seteefeet on April 24, 2019, 10:50:10 AM
If we win one, draw one against the Villa, as we did in normal time, we are in the final.
Doesn't matter who we get then as it's a one off pooh or bust scenario.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: kc56wba on April 24, 2019, 11:29:45 AM
Now those who know me know that my Son supports the vile scum from Witton  (his mother always said she would get her own back on me when we got divorced)  well he phoned me this morning and said they are on a run to the Prem and noting will stop them.  He even said they would surpass what the Wolves were doing this season and be in the Champions League in 2020/2021 season.

I have got to take him down a peg or two otherwise I will have the heartbreak of a vile scum on the phone and all I would be able to do is loff my head off.

SOTV

Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: skyclad99 on April 24, 2019, 12:12:11 PM
Now those who know me know that my Son supports the vile scum from Witton  (his mother always said she would get her own back on me when we got divorced)  well he phoned me this morning and said they are on a run to the Prem and noting will stop them.  He even said they would surpass what the Wolves were doing this season and be in the Champions League in 2020/2021 season.

I have got to take him down a peg or two otherwise I will have the heartbreak of a vile scum on the phone and all I would be able to do is loff my head off.

SOTV

Block his number Kev and consider moving.......

Personally I am amazed you are still talking to him, I would have disowned mine for bringing shame on the family a long time ago!
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: baggies_24 on April 24, 2019, 01:14:04 PM
Think you've hit the nail on the head there. A lot of the games tend to be quite tight and its the odd bit of class that determines the game. That's what worries me the most. We don't always look the most solid defensively and I think that will be our downfall.

Over two legs I would fancy us against whoever finishes 6th - Derby or Bristol City. If Boro finishes 6th I think that would be a tough test for us but I would fancy us to do them over 2 legs.

Not too sure on Leeds and Villa. I actually think it would benefit us more if our 2nd game was away from home. We seem better when teams open up abit rather than sit back.

On form you would obviously say Villa will be favourites to win the play offs.

I think Matt Phillips could be a key player for us in the play offs - with him returning from injury now and getting some minutes in - he could really make the difference in a tight game. Plus keeping Gayle fit will always give us that chance of nicking a goal.



This is why I fancy us in the playoffs really how many games this season have we played well in? I can only think of a handful of times I think the reading game was a prime example of this the performance was pretty dire yet we still came away hitting the bar, post & had 2 cleared off the line.

I think Leeds will fall away in the playoffs to be that close to going up and blowing it will be tough for them especially now the weathers warming up they won’t be able to sustain the high press all game. Villa’s the one that worries me McGinn & Grealish are probably the best midfielders in the league and will walk all over Brunt & Livermore. I’d start Harper the next 2 games and tell him if he runs his gonads off he’s in the starting lineup if he can prove he’l put the effort in. He does at times seem a little lazy and let’s players go by him when he should be picking them up but a midfield of Livermore / Brunt, Harper & Johansson if far more mobile defensively and will also cause teams problems going the other way.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: elkiellis on April 24, 2019, 09:13:14 PM
Semi finals its us v Vile you can do all the permutations you like but that is easily the highest probability,if I were Shan I would complete sacrifice a midfielder to just stop Grealish probably Field ,tell him just to follow him round everywhere and not to worry about anthing else,if we can stop Grealish we can win he has been given the freedom of the park against most teams in the vile,s winning run
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: Albionic on April 24, 2019, 09:38:55 PM
Just give the horrible vile 5h1t a good whack off the ball, job done !
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: costa blanca baggie on April 25, 2019, 12:00:33 AM
Semi finals its us v Vile you can do all the permutations you like but that is easily the highest probability,if I were Shan I would complete sacrifice a midfielder to just stop Grealish probably Field ,tell him just to follow him round everywhere and not to worry about anthing else,if we can stop Grealish we can win he has been given the freedom of the park against most teams in the vile,s winning run
That’s what I was surmising at when I asked about Fields performance on Monday. If Shan is worried about us not having young legs in midfield, this would seem his best option at sticking a spanner in the vile works. If that is the case, then he has to play in the next two games. It’s a risk. It’s going to be a high pressure situation for a lad that hasn’t had much game time. However, he may be our best option.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: Andio on April 25, 2019, 12:46:25 AM
Just give the horrible vile 5h1t a good whack off the ball, job done !

Step forward Craig Dawson, worked on Monday against Reading.

Done it a few times this season as well.

Not that I condone it, but in this case I will allow myself an exception  ;D
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: alex1 on April 25, 2019, 11:44:59 AM
Step forward Craig Dawson, worked on Monday against Reading.

Done it a few times this season as well.

Not that I condone it, but in this case I will allow myself an exception  ;D

What if they had a similar plan for Matt Phillips? or Gayle?
Bit of a slippery slope that.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: OldburyWBA on April 25, 2019, 11:46:53 AM
What if they had a similar plan for Matt Phillips? or Gayle?
Bit of a slippery slope that.

Alan Hutton has a made a career of it
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: Albionic on April 25, 2019, 11:47:39 AM
What if they had a similar plan for Matt Phillips? or Gayle?
Bit of a slippery slope that.

you have a point to be fair, tell Hutton to "do" someone, if he gets sent off, you lose nothing football wise !
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: BigFrank20 on April 25, 2019, 12:20:13 PM
Alan Hutton has a made a career of it
Just thinking about him doing this brings tears to my eyes and makes me cross my legs! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZHgAnJAhnY
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: tuamigos on April 25, 2019, 01:26:01 PM
you have a point to be fair, tell Hutton to "do" someone, if he gets sent off, you lose nothing football wise !

Put Calamity Kyle on for the last 5 minutes of the first leg and tell him to wipe McGinn and Squeamish out in one go. Take one (or two) for the team so to speak  :o
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: seteefeet on April 25, 2019, 02:15:52 PM
Put Calamity Kyle on for the last 5 minutes of the first leg and tell him to wipe McGinn and Squeamish out in one go. Take one (or two) for the team so to speak  :o
What's he going to do, point em to death?
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: paulosull on April 25, 2019, 05:09:37 PM
What's he going to do, point em to death?
exactly what I was thinking.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: Albertbaggie on April 25, 2019, 10:46:58 PM
Big part of the Villa game is overcoming the psychological hurdle.
Everyone is frightened of them at the minute because of the run they are on.
But they have actually been quite average in games recently - their confidence has got them through and their fans believe 100 per cent they are going up.
We need to make sure we give them things to worry about.

Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: Albionic on April 26, 2019, 09:20:45 AM
I have thought for a few seasons we have suffered from a lack of bottle, HOWEVER, i think this has turned around a bit this season and when we have had big games we have done ok (vile *2 / Leeds at home).

Dwight seems like a bloke who is "driven" and maybe this is rubbing off on others, The kids really don't have that much baggage, I really hope we have lost the "soft" Albion trait, if we have we will be ok through the playoffs, if not a quick exit will ensue.

It is as much about attitude (and luck) as skill / ability in these games IMO.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: baggiemart on April 26, 2019, 10:19:04 AM
It does look like its Villa in the play offs and it has looked that way for a few weeks now, but I still get the feeling that we will end up playing Derby 3 times in 10 days. Which will mean us finishing 3rd which means we win our last 2 games and Derby finishing 6th.

It will also mean Villa beating Leeds and Leeds drawing with Ipswich last match.

Derby then need to beat Bristol City tomorrow then beat Swansea mid week.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: hunsletbaggie on April 27, 2019, 08:51:11 AM
It does look like its Villa in the play offs and it has looked that way for a few weeks now, but I still get the feeling that we will end up playing Derby 3 times in 10 days. Which will mean us finishing 3rd which means we win our last 2 games and Derby finishing 6th.

It will also mean Villa beating Leeds and Leeds drawing with Ipswich last match.

Derby then need to beat Bristol City tomorrow then beat Swansea mid week.
We could also end up  playing Derby if they win their last 3 games and the Vile lose to Leeds and Norwich.
But I am afraid it's not happening were playing the Vile
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: tuamigos on April 27, 2019, 10:03:53 AM
I'd like Derby to be going into next weeks game needing to win to get into the playoffs, and for us to play for the draw. Just to inflict a little agony on those baaaaaastards
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: boinging_along on April 27, 2019, 10:29:12 AM
Reading about Villa's financies this morning.  They are desperate to go up this season.  Knocking them out in the play offs would be really damaging...
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: AlbionFan on April 27, 2019, 12:12:35 PM
Reading about Villa's financies this morning.  They are desperate to go up this season.  Knocking them out in the play offs would be really damaging...

In my life time and that of my dad’s, the vile have always had “the luck of the Irish” as the saying goes, mainly because a lot of their fanbase in those early days were navies etc from across the Irish Sea.

I see no end to that luck I’m afraid
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: baggiejohn on April 27, 2019, 12:44:51 PM
Reading about Villa's financies this morning.  They are desperate to go up this season.  Knocking them out in the play offs would be really damaging...

If they don't get promoted this season, they'll be on the final tranche of parachute payments next campaign, (circa £15 million I believe).
As I understand it, they would be allowed a cumulative loss of around £30 million over a three period under FFP rules. Not sure how much their cumulative loss is so far, but allegedly they threw big bucks at the promotion attempt last season, so I'd expect them to be fairly close to the threshold.
Given that, you'd expect a fire sale of players if they fail, as you say, it would be damaging.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: royhan on April 27, 2019, 01:11:13 PM
If they don't get promoted this season, they'll be on the final tranche of parachute payments next campaign, (circa £15 million I believe).
As I understand it, they would be allowed a cumulative loss of around £30 million over a three period under FFP rules. Not sure how much their cumulative loss is so far, but allegedly they threw big bucks at the promotion attempt last season, so I'd expect them to be fairly close to the threshold.
Given that, you'd expect a fire sale of players if they fail, as you say, it would be damaging.

We should forget about Villa’s financial problems and worry about our own. I can’t see us beating Villa unless we improve dramatically. If we don’t then I can see us offloading our big earners and we’ll start next season with a bunch of old timers and some new recruits.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: wba_1996 on April 27, 2019, 05:00:44 PM
Going to be painful couple of games. The way we invite teams on to us and then defend terribly it could be over after the first leg.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: royhan on April 27, 2019, 05:09:05 PM
We could still gain automatic promotion, couldn’t we!!!
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: TheJacko2000 on April 27, 2019, 05:28:37 PM
I think individual ability might see us through this time. It didn't under Mogga when he ran into ultra negative Derby, so as long as we avoid Boro I think we've got a great chance.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: TheJacko2000 on April 27, 2019, 05:38:41 PM
We could still gain automatic promotion, couldn’t we!!!


No? Not unless Bolton go out of business, and even then, very unlikely.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: BoingFlyer on April 27, 2019, 06:03:23 PM
Very happy with today result. I have always thought  home advantage second leg  against the villa will be the decider between the two teams.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: royhan on April 27, 2019, 06:05:54 PM

No? Not unless Bolton go out of business, and even then, very unlikely.


My slim hopes will end if Sheffield United keep their half time lead against Ipswich.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: albion59 on April 27, 2019, 06:17:49 PM
Very happy with today result. I have always thought  home advantage second leg  against the villa will be the decider between the two teams.
If we play like we did in the first half today they will be out of sight come the second leg!
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: wbawill on April 27, 2019, 06:30:42 PM

My slim hopes will end if Sheffield United keep their half time lead against Ipswich.

No, automatic was made mathematically impossible last weekend, at the same time as it was mathematically certain we can't drop out of the play off positions. The max we can get to is 83 points, Sheffield United are already on 85 (soon to be 88)
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: letmereadposts on April 27, 2019, 07:02:41 PM
We need to believe.

As it stands we have scored more goals, have more points and are unbeaten with Villa.

Aside from Leeds away, this team tends to match the quality it meets in games. Rotherham/ Reading not great teams and neither were we when playing them. Conversely we beat Villa away (without Harvey Barnes who now seems like a distant memory) and showed what we do to a out of sorts Leeds team.

Am I happy at the thought of playing Villa in the Play Offs? Not a chance! However, we have just as good a chance as any other team to win the play offs - the players will believe but the fans also need to.

Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: Standaman on April 27, 2019, 07:29:44 PM
The league may as well gather the 4 teams together and flip a coin for it. There is nothing to separate the 4 teams (there seldom is ) and the games themselves are totally one off and whatever pundits might think the regular season results have very little or no bearing on the outcomes.

I am neutral about our prospects on the one hand I fear we could blow our chances with one very poor 20 minute spell but we have goals in the team which means we are never dead provided there is only a goal in it.

Bring it on nothing to lose everything to gain.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: elkiellis on April 27, 2019, 09:37:48 PM
V Vile,i think we shoulder consider 442 or 451,aftertoday I am not convinced by 352 is the wingback system working,i would rather sacrifice bartley and have an extra midfielder in V vile or I think we will be overrun at seal park barring injury I would go 451 Johnstone,Holgate,Gibbs,Hegazi,Dawson,harper,livermore,johansen,phillips,brunt,gayle.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: crazedwbafan18 on April 28, 2019, 08:01:38 AM
Im excited now! I'm still hoping theres a good allocation for the villa game where most fans can make it. Obviously yes we need to up our game but i think we are saving a lot of energy for the play offs.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: KN22 on April 28, 2019, 09:00:16 AM
Anyone know how long Livermore is out for? I can hear the groans now but having watched a very laboured midfield display yesterday he must be at least an option for play offs if fit. I saw him outside ground after the game having photos taken with youngsters. Was wearing a protective boot on right leg.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: baggieboyfred on April 28, 2019, 11:08:44 AM
Again another hit and miss performance we only really got going after they scored, biggest worry for me is that the majority of the team that finished the game yesterday is the likely starting X1 for play offs and we will certainly have to perform better than that against whoever we play in the play offs , I for one am not expecting anything so even getting to Wembley will be a bonus, but if the right albion turn up for those final 3 games then we have every chance if not prepare for another championship season but probably with most of the better players gone
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: baggiemart on April 28, 2019, 11:46:37 AM
It's so important we get the home leg second especially against the Vile.

If we have to go there in the 2nd leg they could make an atmosphere at vile park which we might not be able to handle, a bit like Leeds did to us.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: baggiemart on April 28, 2019, 12:20:59 PM
Should I be backing Leeds or Vile today (or neither)?

On the one hand, a Vile win gives us a chance of 3rd going into the final day, but obviously puts the pressure on us to get a win at Derby to keep the home/away leg seed in our favour.

A Leeds win would knock the Viles confidence but also rule out any chance of coming 3rd, and basically confirm our place against the form team in the division in the semis.

Could a draw be the best result for us?

A  draw is the best result with lots of injuries !!!
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: paulosull on April 28, 2019, 12:56:03 PM
What is the situation with all our player's out on loan at other clubs come end of season, can we use them in play offs? Thinking of Rondon especially.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: wbarenno on April 28, 2019, 01:21:45 PM
What is the situation with all our player's out on loan at other clubs come end of season, can we use them in play offs? Thinking of Rondon especially.

There was a story in the express and star a few weeks back saying Rondon wouldn’t be able to play in the play offs
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: tlms-p23 on April 28, 2019, 02:07:15 PM
Think we've just seen the standard of the play offs this season. Some quality and a real intensity to the Leeds vs Villa game. From our point of view it's very possible we'll have to beat both teams to go up.

Having seen how the games have gone under Shan and knowing that Leeds and Villa play much more expansive styles, I don't think we'll be involved with such fast paced, high tempo games as the one this afternoon.

That result also confirms that we will finish at least 4th and will definitely play our 2nd leg at home in midweek. We can sneak into 3rd if we beat Derby and Ipswich beat Leeds. Looking like it's Villa....
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: 232kev on April 28, 2019, 02:41:02 PM
I think we should give villa only 2000 tickets to as that is what they will give us
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: kc56wba on April 28, 2019, 02:52:02 PM
I think we should give villa only 2000 tickets to as that is what they will give us

Lots of rumour's going on about ticket allocation if we play the vile scum.  Villa want all the Smethwick, so we ask for the North Stand, villa say no. Stalemate. Other rumour Vile will only give us 2100 but we will give them the full away allocation ( which I believe is a load of bull ). the best one was no away fans at either game.  ;D
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: wbawill on April 28, 2019, 03:02:12 PM
Lots of rumour's going on about ticket allocation if we play the vile scum.  Villa want all the Smethwick, so we ask for the North Stand, villa say no. Stalemate. Other rumour Vile will only give us 2100 but we will give them the full away allocation ( which I believe is a load of bull ). the best one was no away fans at either game.  ;D

It would be a completely ridiculous and unbelievably bad decision by Jenkins and the club to give Villa the entire Smethwick. For that reason, I fully expect it to happen.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: The Joust on April 28, 2019, 03:04:43 PM
It would be a completely ridiculous and unbelievably bad decision by Jenkins and the club to give Villa the entire Smethwick. For that reason, I fully expect it to happen.

Won’t happen. Didn’t happen vs Wolves last time.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: letmereadposts on April 28, 2019, 03:59:57 PM
Does anyone know which midweek/ 2nd leg date we're likely to play?
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: tlms-p23 on April 28, 2019, 04:24:53 PM
Does anyone know which midweek/ 2nd leg date we're likely to play?

EFL haven't said if 3rd vs 6th is first or 4th vs 5th. But the dates for the diary are;

First leg - Saturday 11th May, 12.30 OR 17.30
Second leg - Tuesday 14th OR Wednesday 15th May, 19.45 (This is definitely our home leg as 3rd and 4th play home legs second)

Play off final - Monday 27th May, Time TBA
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: BoingFlyer on April 28, 2019, 04:39:02 PM
Does the Hawthorns have VAR installed? I think it can be used in the play off semi's.

Also from the efl site:

4.3 The Visiting Club shall have the right to claim 2,000 tickets for use by its supporters (or such number as represents 10% of all tickets reserved or otherwise sold in advance, if less than 2,000). The following conditions shall apply:
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: letmereadposts on April 28, 2019, 04:57:19 PM
EFL haven't said if 3rd vs 6th is first or 4th vs 5th. But the dates for the diary are;

First leg - Saturday 11th May, 12.30 OR 17.30
Second leg - Tuesday 14th OR Wednesday 15th May, 19.45 (This is definitely our home leg as 3rd and 4th play home legs second)

Play off final - Monday 27th May, Time TBA

Thanks. I saw the same, however by now would have hoped/ expected EFL would clarify which set of teams would have each midweek game (assuming Sky have final say though?).

Guess they'll confirm and publish after final game of season.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: east-stand-nick on April 29, 2019, 08:27:36 AM
Does the Hawthorns have VAR installed? I think it can be used in the play off semi's.


Is there any "installation" about it other than TV cameras?
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: wbawill on April 29, 2019, 09:05:18 AM
Thanks. I saw the same, however by now would have hoped/ expected EFL would clarify which set of teams would have each midweek game (assuming Sky have final say though?).

Guess they'll confirm and publish after final game of season.

Sky probably pick, but they can be overruled by the police. I'd imagine that if it's Albion v Villa, the police would want that to be the early kick off, which would put the home leg on the Tuesday.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: WBAinDEVON on April 29, 2019, 09:15:27 AM
Sky probably pick, but they can be overruled by the police. I'd imagine that if it's Albion v Villa, the police would want that to be the early kick off, which would put the home leg on the Tuesday.


Hope so flying back Home from Benidorm on the 15th, means missing.
It would appear there will be a few Baggies over in Benidorm during these 2 games after i posted on FB.see you there if going over
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: tuamigos on April 29, 2019, 09:44:05 AM
I see Jack Squeemish was at his awful best yesterday.
I got up to get a drink and accidently bumped into the TV and Sqeemish fell over!
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: NJS on April 29, 2019, 09:45:33 AM
I didn't go to the Rotherham match but from the comments here, it doesn't seem that we are at all ready to go up to the Prem on number of levels.  So we would go up, collect the money, squander it on aging pros who have become cynical and don't really care for the club just building their own retirement fund. In doing so we p*ss off our younger players who go elsewhere.  We would probably get relegated straight-away but I suppose Lai could benefit either in increased management fees or selling the club to an even bigger mug.

So I'm sanguine about not going up:  another year in the EFL might allow us to re-structure to a different business model and find a manager who can develop our nursery players and is experienced enough to identify some useful (but hungry) imports.

Rightly or wrongly, we lost a lot of goodwill by sacking Big Dave.  Some commentators are downright antagonistic (cf Rod Liddle Sunday Times).  Another year in the EFL might allow us to recover a decent reputation too.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: kc56wba on April 29, 2019, 10:04:03 AM
Sky probably pick, but they can be overruled by the police. I'd imagine that if it's Albion v Villa, the police would want that to be the early kick off, which would put the home leg on the Tuesday.

I asked the police if they could over rule  the TV companies when we played the vile scum in the FA cup game 5.30 ko. a few years ago The reply was as long the TV companies pay the extra police bill then they will give the go-ahead.

Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: ex coseley kid on April 29, 2019, 10:24:49 AM
I didn't go to the Rotherham match but from the comments here, it doesn't seem that we are at all ready to go up to the Prem on number of levels.  So we would go up, collect the money, squander it on aging pros who have become cynical and don't really care for the club just building their own retirement fund. In doing so we p*ss off our younger players who go elsewhere.  We would probably get relegated straight-away but I suppose Lai could benefit either in increased management fees or selling the club to an even bigger mug.

So I'm sanguine about not going up:  another year in the EFL might allow us to re-structure to a different business model and find a manager who can develop our nursery players and is experienced enough to identify some useful (but hungry) imports.

Rightly or wrongly, we lost a lot of goodwill by sacking Big Dave.  Some commentators are downright antagonistic (cf Rod Liddle Sunday Times).  Another year in the EFL might allow us to recover a decent reputation too.

Good post, well said all round.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: SmethDan on April 29, 2019, 10:49:15 AM
Does the Hawthorns have VAR installed? I think it can be used in the play off semi's.......

It was widely reported that VAR will not be in use for the Play Off Final. With that in mind and despite the money that's at stake I very much doubt VAR would be in use for the semis, especially given that it hasn't been employed for any other Championship fixture this season.

Ed: just read that goal line technology WILL be in use at Wembley, however, full VAR (contentious decisions) will NOT. Again, I very much doubt it would be in use for the semis.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: BigFrank20 on April 29, 2019, 12:09:01 PM
Just waiting for the inevitable furore about the ticket allocations for the two games against the seals you can't help but suspect the club will make a pigs ear of it!
If the posted dates are accurate I'll only be able to make the seal park game and the final   
COYB
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: seteefeet on April 29, 2019, 12:45:01 PM
I'm not a fan of the Prem and don't particularly look forward to getting pummelled every week, but, I don't want to lose to Villa and i don't want to lose at Wembley, so promotion it has to be!
Rest as many as possible against Derby, whilst, in the meantime, setting out a game plan for the next 2 games. Decide formation and personnel and do everything it takes to get them fired up.
Under no circumstances should the players be allowed near social media, if only to keep them away from our own fans negativity but also to just focus their minds on the job in hand.
For all the shenanigans we have gone through this season, we are still within touching distance of promotion and we should all take a minute to appreciate that.

If we can go up, beating Villa on the way, this year will go down in history boys  ;)
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: Albionic on April 29, 2019, 12:48:38 PM
I'm not a fan of the Prem and don't particularly look forward to getting pummelled every week, but, I don't want to lose to Villa and i don't want to lose at Wembley, so promotion it has to be!
Rest as many as possible against Derby, whilst, in the meantime, setting out a game plan for the next 2 games. Decide formation and personnel and do everything it takes to get them fired up.
Under no circumstances should the players be allowed near social media, if only to keep them away from our own fans negativity but also to just focus their minds on the job in hand.
For all the shenanigans we have gone through this season, we are still within touching distance of promotion and we should all take a minute to appreciate that.

If we can go up, beating Villa on the way, this year will go down in history boys  ;)


It would surpass overhauling the dogheads for me. Pushing them another step towards obscurity would be lovely !
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: OldburyWBA on April 29, 2019, 12:48:44 PM
I think a victory over the vile and then a play off final win over Derby would be the perfect end to the season and remove the hurt from a few years ago, we can worry about next season in August.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: BigFrank20 on April 29, 2019, 01:14:56 PM
https://www.wba.co.uk/news/2019/april/prepare-for-the-play-offs---early-ticket-details/

The opposition and dates for our semi-final are still to be confirmed and we urge supporters to keep an eye on wba.co.uk for up-to-date information.

However, we are able to offer some early information to try to ensure as smooth a ticketing process as possible in preparation for such anticipated high-demand fixtures.

Firstly, we encourage supporters to check contact data on their ticketing account is up to date and that they have their password to hand. If you have any queries about your online account you can contact the Ticket Office on 0121 227 2227 during opening hours or email tickets@wbafc.co.uk. Passwords can be reset at wbatickets.co.uk - just click “Sign In” in the top right corner and then “Forgot Password” on the pop up screen.

As there is such a short amount of time between games to sell and post tickets we are aware that supporters are likely to have a number of queries with which they may need help.

There will be no sales by telephone over this period. Sales will be conducted online or, from Day Two, by visiting the Ticket Office.

But we are setting up a new support account on Twitter, @WBA_Support, to help deal with operational queries.  And you can also email tickets@wbafc.co.uk with any queries.

Please note we cannot share personal details such as passwords on Twitter but we will be able to point fans in the right direction to resolve their question.

Tickets for the home leg of the Play-Offs will be available with the priority outlined in the grid below. Prices will remain at the current matchday ticket levels (again, see below) and the first three days of sales will be exclusively for current season-ticket holders or fans who have taken advantage of our Early Bird offer and bought 2019/20 season tickets.

Day One will be for the purchase of one ticket only. On Days Two and Three, 2018/19 and 2019/20 season-ticket holders will have the opportunity to purchase a second ticket, subject to availability.

Season-ticket holders’ seats will be reserved until 5pm on Wednesday, May 8 (Day Three). At 9am on Thursday, May 9 all unsold tickets will made available for sale.

All 2018/19 season-ticket holders are guaranteed at least their existing seat if they purchase within the first three days of sale, while new season-ticket holders for 2019/20 are advised to purchase on Day One of sales to ensure they secure a ticket for the match.

Please note there will be no telephone sales for this match with the exception of disabled supporters who will be informed by email of a dedicated telephone number. Only tickets from this category will be processed on this telephone number. All other ticket purchases must be made online at wbatickets.co.uk or in-person at the Ticket Office.

Season-ticket holders who would like to move their seat to sit by their additional ticket can select two seats together currently not held by season-ticket holders within the first three days of the sales window. Their existing seat will then be made available to purchase. Please note that seat moves can only be processed in the Ticket Office and cannot be done online or by telephone.

Season-ticket holders who want to purchase multiple season ticket seats in the same transaction are advised to ensure all relevant accounts are added to their Friends and Family list. To check your Friends and Family list log in to your account at wbatickets.co.uk, click on "Personal Details" and then "Friends & Family".

In the interests of everyone’s safety and security, we will continue to operate a zero-tolerance policy for anyone identified selling-on tickets to a third party. Tickets for the home areas should be occupied by home fans.

As stated, tickets for the home semi-final are at this year’s matchday prices. Please see below for the price table.

Ticket details for the away leg of the Play-Off semi-finals will be confirmed as soon as possible after Sunday’s final round of scheduled Sky Bet Championship fixtures.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: crazedwbafan18 on April 29, 2019, 01:22:27 PM
Not a chance on the away fixture as im only a member, however, i do hope to get a few for the home leg!
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: tuamigos on April 29, 2019, 01:24:19 PM
I think a victory over the vile and then a play off final win over Derby would be the perfect end to the season and remove the hurt from a few years ago, we can worry about next season in August.

I've just had something warm run down the inside of my leg  :o
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: BoingFlyer on April 29, 2019, 01:35:52 PM
Balls, all my tickets have been as a registered person not a member this season. Sky TV for me then!
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: baggiebof on April 29, 2019, 02:23:55 PM
Balls, all my tickets have been as a registered person not a member this season. Sky TV for me then!

How did you find this out? I am fearing that this is the same for me.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: wbarenno on April 29, 2019, 02:27:25 PM
So am I right in thinking season ticket holders are allowed to buy two tickets but on separate days. Their own seat and another one on day two
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: TheJacko2000 on April 29, 2019, 02:31:22 PM
Will definitely get one for the home leg. The away game may be slightly trickier. (Anyone who went to Bolton away should automatically go to the front of the queue, forget loyalty points  ;D )
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: BoingFlyer on April 29, 2019, 02:45:11 PM
How did you find this out? I am fearing that this is the same for me.


Log in (https://www.wbatickets.co.uk).
Click your name in the top right to see the link to personal details.
The account details page has a link to history, below the loyalty points total.
Click that and you can see a list of different transaction types, one of which is membership. Pick it and you can see your membership history.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: SmethDan on April 29, 2019, 02:57:32 PM
Only speed read the club announcement regarding home allocation of tickets. Given the club's reported desire to go greener I'd have thought it'd be easier/better all around for HSTHs to add the play off game to our existing Stile Cards rather than print PDF tickets off at home. Here's hoping Kev's online rumour of the Vile having the whole of the Smeth' is just that, a rumour. Tempted to get vexed in advance just in case....... (get me Jenkins on line one).......
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: SmethDan on April 29, 2019, 03:19:09 PM
Only speed read the club announcement regarding home allocation of tickets. Given the club's reported desire to go greener I'd have thought it'd be easier/better all around for HSTHs to add the play off game to our existing Stile Cards rather than print PDF tickets off at home. Here's hoping Kev's online rumour of the Vile having the whole of the Smeth' is just that, a rumour. Tempted to get vexed in advance just in case....... (get me Jenkins on line one).......

Mate just text to say there is an option to add this fixture to existing Stile Cards, no need for Jenkins on line one  ;D .
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: baggiebof on April 29, 2019, 04:19:39 PM

Log in (https://www.wbatickets.co.uk).
Click your name in the top right to see the link to personal details.
The account details page has a link to history, below the loyalty points total.
Click that and you can see a list of different transaction types, one of which is membership. Pick it and you can see your membership history.

Great, thanks for this.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: kc56wba on April 29, 2019, 05:54:25 PM
Only speed read the club announcement regarding home allocation of tickets. Given the club's reported desire to go greener I'd have thought it'd be easier/better all around for HSTHs to add the play off game to our existing Stile Cards rather than print PDF tickets off at home. Here's hoping Kev's online rumour of the Vile having the whole of the Smeth' is just that, a rumour. Tempted to get vexed in advance just in case....... (get me Jenkins on line one).......

Aye Dan dont worry about it, cor see it happening.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: WBArgo on April 29, 2019, 06:47:06 PM
I've been out of the loop on here for a while but when do the play-off home tickets go on sale and when are the play-off semi dates?
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: ex coseley kid on April 29, 2019, 06:55:25 PM
I've just had something warm run down the inside of my leg  :o

Phil got me all excited by his statement. It was almost sexual!!!  :D

Mind I've said the same... get past the Vile Scum and do one on Derby, you can only dream of such things. If we can do that, well maybe we CAN turn things around next season.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: jamesh_91 on April 29, 2019, 07:30:09 PM
I've been out of the loop on here for a while but when do the play-off home tickets go on sale and when are the play-off semi dates?

Refer to previous page...
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: leeiswba on April 29, 2019, 07:48:42 PM
Hopefully they just do the away leg like they have for derby - making sure the people who have been to the most away games this season get the tickets nothing to do with people who renew. Anything else would be a disgrace.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: zippyandbungle on April 29, 2019, 10:18:12 PM
I think a victory over the vile and then a play off final win over Derby would be the perfect end to the season and remove the hurt from a few years ago, we can worry about next season in August.
Corrrrreect sir
Get in the water fust, then worry abart swimming
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: kirk on April 29, 2019, 11:16:24 PM
Wtf so if all hsth can buy 2 tickets then there will be nothing left for the members. Does this club actually want any fans?
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: leeiswba on April 30, 2019, 06:12:15 AM
Wtf so if all hsth can buy 2 tickets then there will be nothing left for the members. Does this club actually want any fans?

I think that is unfair as well, I could buy an extra ticket and give it to someone who hasn’t been to a game all season where as a member who has been to around 15 games would miss out.

You can just tell the people who make these decisions about tickets just have never been match attending fans.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: TheJacko2000 on April 30, 2019, 06:16:17 AM
Season ticket holders can always buy a 2nd ticket, not sure why this would be any different.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: kirk on April 30, 2019, 06:38:48 AM
Season ticket holders can always buy a 2nd ticket, not sure why this would be any different.

Not before fully paid up members had the chance to purchase a ticket. Eg this season Brighton away.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: TheJacko2000 on April 30, 2019, 06:44:49 AM
Not before fully paid up members had the chance to purchase a ticket. Eg this season Brighton away.


It's not an away game. Season ticket holders can always buy extra home tickets.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: baggiejohn on April 30, 2019, 08:37:48 AM
I think that is unfair as well, I could buy an extra ticket and give it to someone who hasn’t been to a game all season where as a member who has been to around 15 games would miss out.

You can just tell the people who make these decisions about tickets just have never been match attending fans.

You could, in theory, but as Jacko says, STH's have always been able to buy additional tickets.
When you consider, we've hardly ever had a full stadium this season, it's unlikely that members will not get a ticket.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: tuamigos on April 30, 2019, 09:07:23 AM
You could, in theory, but as Jacko says, STH's have always been able to buy additional tickets.
When you consider, we've hardly ever had a full stadium this season, it's unlikely that members will not get a ticket.

The problem is now that all the fair weather fans will be out in force
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: iwastherein68 on April 30, 2019, 09:09:31 AM
This will be televised and some local "supporters" will stay at home or go to the pub. If we get to Wembley we will not sell out, we didn't against Derby.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: kc56wba on April 30, 2019, 09:14:32 AM
You could, in theory, but as Jacko says, STH's have always been able to buy additional tickets.
When you consider, we've hardly ever had a full stadium this season, it's unlikely that members will not get a ticket.

Now matter what the club do concerning tickets some people wont be happy.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: kirk on April 30, 2019, 10:17:46 AM
You could, in theory, but as Jacko says, STH's have always been able to buy additional tickets.
When you consider, we've hardly ever had a full stadium this season, it's unlikely that members will not get a ticket.

I guarantee members will not get a ticket .... only 12,000 season ticket holders need to buy 2 and I know that’s what they are doing taking their partners etc. When you moan the stadium is not full remember why as I won’t be going next season, I go and watch the moors instead
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: kirk on April 30, 2019, 10:20:29 AM
Now matter what the club do concerning tickets some people wont be happy.

Oh come on it’s simple season ticket holders get first dips, then members and then register supporters on the database. It’s not difficult. A season ticket holder could now buy 2 tickets and take a villa fan along because he’s a mate.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: TheJacko2000 on April 30, 2019, 10:33:14 AM
Oh come on it’s simple season ticket holders get first dips, then members and then register supporters on the database. It’s not difficult. A season ticket holder could now buy 2 tickets and take a villa fan along because he’s a mate.


What if the season ticket holder has taken his kid to 15 or 16 home games? It's simple really, if you want a ticket for games like this either get a season ticket or find somebody who has got one and will get you a ticket.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: kc56wba on April 30, 2019, 10:38:53 AM
Oh come on it’s simple season ticket holders get first dips, then members and then register supporters on the database. It’s not difficult. A season ticket holder could now buy 2 tickets and take a villa fan along because he’s a mate.

That is what is happening.

Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: east-stand-nick on April 30, 2019, 10:45:46 AM
Whatever system they use, people will whinge.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: Powelly on April 30, 2019, 10:46:34 AM
That is what is happening.

No it's not. Season ticket holders can buy their seats on Monday, then Tuesday and Wednesday buy 1 more for a friend or family member.

Members cannot get one until Thursday by then all that will be left is the season ticket holders seats that are reserved until Thursday that have not been purchased.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: kirk on April 30, 2019, 11:14:58 AM

What if the season ticket holder has taken his kid to 15 or 16 home games? It's simple really, if you want a ticket for games like this either get a season ticket or find somebody who has got one and will get you a ticket.

Or what about the fan who paid to be a member and attended 15-16 home games and away games and now cannot get a ticket due to unregistered people now attending
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: kirk on April 30, 2019, 11:18:01 AM
Whatever system they use, people will whinge.

No every registered season ticket holder and member can get a ticket but not now. You fans will soon whinge when we have poor attendance against a Barnsley, millwall or Brentford.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: Wigmore on April 30, 2019, 11:25:17 AM
Or what about the fan who paid to be a member and attended 15-16 home games and away games and now cannot get a ticket due to unregistered people now attending
Surely anybody who has shown this level of support would be far better off buying a ST. If they had spent £300 on random tickets a ST must a real alternative. A close friend who lives in Majorca, and who gets back for 10-12 games a season, still has a ST to avoid this scenario developing.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: kirk on April 30, 2019, 11:33:32 AM
Surely anybody who has shown this level of support would be far better off buying a ST. If they had spent £300 on random tickets a ST must a real alternative. A close friend who lives in Majorca, and who gets back for 10-12 games a season, still has a ST to avoid this scenario developing.

ST guarantees you first dips on seat and priority on finals etc and that’s only right but why have a membership scheme when unregistered fans will get priority of extra seats.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: baggiejohn on April 30, 2019, 11:44:32 AM
Oh come on it’s simple season ticket holders get first dips, then members and then register supporters on the database. It’s not difficult. A season ticket holder could now buy 2 tickets and take a villa fan along because he’s a mate.

I think you need to read the statement.

I'm a HSTH, seats either side of me are also HSTH's, so if I bought a second ticket, I would have to request a move to sit by my mate.
I can't guarantee members will get a ticket, but I would be surprised if they didn't.

Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: east-stand-nick on April 30, 2019, 11:52:48 AM
I'd wager that most members know a STH anyway.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: kirk on April 30, 2019, 11:59:11 AM
I'd wager that most members know a STH anyway.

I wager most will take partners and 1 game a season telly fans
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: kirk on April 30, 2019, 11:59:56 AM
I think you need to read the statement.

I'm a HSTH, seats either side of me are also HSTH's, so if I bought a second ticket, I would have to request a move to sit by my mate.
I can't guarantee members will get a ticket, but I would be surprised if they didn't.

I would be stunned if there are any left to sell.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: east-stand-nick on April 30, 2019, 12:00:54 PM
I would be stunned if there are any left to sell.

This comment is not going to age well.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: baggiejohn on April 30, 2019, 12:16:38 PM
I would be stunned if there are any left to sell.

I can see your point Kirk, & I agree, it would have been better if members had been allowed to buy a ticket before STH's were allowed to buy a second.

This paragraph is taken from the statement:

Quote
In the interests of everyone’s safety and security, we will continue to operate a zero-tolerance policy for anyone identified selling-on tickets to a third party. Tickets for the home areas should be occupied by home fans.

From that, I would assume that there will be some mechanism to interrogate a STH who has no previous track record of buying extra tickets, to help prevent sales to opposition fans.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: SmethDan on April 30, 2019, 12:34:03 PM
I would be stunned if there are any left to sell.

Kirk I can understand and appreciate where you're coming from with this and fully acknowledge that you perceive the allocations as potentially unfair. Yet thus far that's what they are - potentially unfair. You and other members may and probably will get tickets though. If all else fails I'm sure there's a HSTH somewhere on this board who'd be willing to get you one.

Now I'm not going to tell you how to think or feel as that would be rude and presumptuous, but it may be better to take a step back and see how things pan out sales wise before becoming entrenched in a mind set which sees you walking away from the Albion on anger based principle. Besides, if you end up following the Moors on a more consistent basis you'll most likely be surrounded by equally disenchanted/disaffected Blue Noses  ;) .
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: kirk on April 30, 2019, 12:35:15 PM
I can see your point Kirk, & I agree, it would have been better if members had been allowed to buy a ticket before STH's were allowed to buy a second.

This paragraph is taken from the statement:

From that, I would assume that there will be some mechanism to interrogate a STH who has no previous track record of buying extra tickets, to help prevent sales to opposition fans.

Nope any st holder can buy an extra ticket no questions asked. I do wonder why the clubs treats their fans with such contempt ( including the new season ticket renewal scheme)
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: kirk on April 30, 2019, 12:40:51 PM
Kirk I can understand and appreciate where you're coming from with this and fully acknowledge that you perceive the allocations as potentially unfair. Yet thus far that's what they are - potentially unfair. You and other members may and probably will get tickets though. If all else fails I'm sure there's a HSTH somewhere on this board who'd be willing to get you one.

Now I'm not going to tell you how to think or feel as that would be rude and presumptuous, but it may be better to take a step back and see how things pan out sales wise before becoming entrenched in a mind set which sees you walking away from the Albion on anger based principle. Besides, if you end up following the Moors on a more consistent basis you'll most likely be surrounded by equally disenchanted/disaffected Blue Noses  ;) .

Hey the moors lot are a good bunch. I been wanting to go and watch them but if I have a spare Saturday I always still went to the Albion.
I had been a season ticket holder since the dark days of 7000 playing millwall and continued right up until Irvine was appointed when I decided not to renew. Since then always been a member and have attended plenty of home and away games. You may be right but I doubt it. First the new season ticket scheme treating st holders like this and now members .... it’s like the club really do not want any fans.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: KN22 on April 30, 2019, 12:49:21 PM
I sympathise with you Kirk, genuinely. I am a HSTH of many years standing but only expect to be able to buy my own ticket, no extras. By the way, I think some folk need to stop and do the maths. It is my understanding that we have at least 16000 STH. How then can they all buy 2 tickets? Not possible. Take this to the next level though and it does mean that members chances are slim.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: kirk on April 30, 2019, 12:56:35 PM
I sympathise with you Kirk, genuinely. I am a HSTH of many years standing but only expect to be able to buy my own ticket, no extras. By the way, I think some folk need to stop and do the maths. It is my understanding that we have at least 16000 STH. How then can they all buy 2 tickets? Not possible. Take this to the next level though and it does mean that members chances are slim.

Exactly. If this was a fa cup final would the club allow 2 tickets for 16,000 st holders with a poss allocation of 25,000
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: jamesh_91 on April 30, 2019, 01:32:51 PM
I don't see the problem and don't care. I go up on my own. Will only buy 1 ticket. I'll get to watch the game. Everybody else can do what they want.

I've been to 10 away games this year and won't get a ticket to the away leg because most of those were on someone else's number when I didn't have sufficient points e.g. Blues and Villa. I fully accept I don't deserve to be one of the first 2000 people to get a ticket at Villa Park.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: LiamTheBaggie on April 30, 2019, 01:34:11 PM
What is the position on Season Ticket Holders buying additional tickets?

My Mrs has a membership with her brother and father, and they attend most games through their membership - I think they have accumulated in excess of 500 points and that is through games they have attended. Looks as though they will miss out.

I should be able to rally enough of my troops to ensure I can get the three of them a ticket, but it is disappointing to see that those who may not have attended games with any sort of regularity this season may potentially jump the queue.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: hardtobeat on April 30, 2019, 01:35:34 PM
That is what is happening.
No it isn't HST are getting 2 dibs before members
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: Atomic on April 30, 2019, 01:45:38 PM
I gotta be honest here and I know I will upset people but still. If you want tickets for big matches BUY A SEASON TICKET and attend every game.

I can't be done with excuses, I have work issues but I still find a way to get to games, one way or the other.

Get a season ticket and back the team week in, week out or do not moan when you can't get tickets when you want them.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: BigFrank20 on April 30, 2019, 01:46:16 PM
Just waiting for the inevitable furore about the ticket allocations for the two games against the seals you can't help but suspect the club will make a pigs ear of it!
If the posted dates are accurate as a STH I'll only be able to make the seal park game and the final   
COYB
Thought I would just bump this up to the front of the thread
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: WBAinDEVON on April 30, 2019, 02:04:36 PM
if we get to wembley everyman and his dog should be able to  get a ticket
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: Atomic on April 30, 2019, 02:20:55 PM
if we get to wembley everyman and his dog should be able to  get a ticket

The extra 10,000 - 15,000 "fans" will come crawling out of the woodwork.

Where are they the rest of the season?

They are on our database along with 15,000 more.

This is why we need a new West Stand we need to attract these "fans" back.

They are out there.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: kirk on April 30, 2019, 02:29:05 PM
I gotta be honest here and I know I will upset people but still. If you want tickets for big matches BUY A SEASON TICKET and attend every game.

I can't be done with excuses, I have work issues but I still find a way to get to games, one way or the other.

Get a season ticket and back the team week in, week out or do not moan when you can't get tickets when you want them.

Typical I’m alright response. Don’t moan when the ground is empty when we play the likes of Barnsley. The club has now destroyed its own membership scheme
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: BlackCountryVilla on April 30, 2019, 02:32:40 PM
Only speed read the club announcement regarding home allocation of tickets. Given the club's reported desire to go greener I'd have thought it'd be easier/better all around for HSTHs to add the play off game to our existing Stile Cards rather than print PDF tickets off at home. Here's hoping Kev's online rumour of the Vile having the whole of the Smeth' is just that, a rumour. Tempted to get vexed in advance just in case....... (get me Jenkins on line one).......
No chance will that happen. There's no way either club or the police would want 6k of you at VP or 5k of us at yours, especially if it's the 5:30 game on the Saturday. You only have to offer 2000 tickets in the play offs, that's what us and Boro gave each other last season. I can see us and you agreeing the same and limiting the amount of away fans at each game.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: Atomic on April 30, 2019, 02:33:02 PM
Typical I’m alright response. Don’t moan when the ground is empty when we play the likes of Barnsley. The club has now destroyed its own membership scheme

No. It's easy to blame the club and everyone / everything else.

We all know the score at the start of the season. Don't moan if things don't fall your way. You're not an innocent victim, you had the choice the same as everyone else to buy a season ticket. Didn't bother? Don't moan!


(Not you personally,generally)
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: TheJacko2000 on April 30, 2019, 02:36:45 PM
No chance will that happen. There's no way either club or the police would want 6k of you at VP or 5k of us at yours, especially if it's the 5:30 game on the Saturday. You only have to offer 2000 tickets in the play offs, that's what us and Boro gave each other last season. I can see us and you agreeing the same and limiting the amount of away fans at each game.


I think there are issues partitioning off the concourse, so you'll likely get offered the full 'normal' away allocation.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: east-stand-nick on April 30, 2019, 02:44:42 PM
The extra 10,000 - 15,000 "fans" will come crawling out of the woodwork.

Where are they the rest of the season?

They are on our database along with 15,000 more.

This is why we need a new West Stand we need to attract these "fans" back.

They are out there.

I'm living 100 miles away doing shift work, with most weekends at work during the season. Sorry I can't be a super fan.

A new stand won't make a blind bit of difference to my circumstances.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: EastYorksAlbion on April 30, 2019, 02:51:24 PM
I'm living 100 miles away doing shift work, with most weekends at work during the season. Sorry I can't be a super fan.

A new stand won't make a blind bit of difference to my circumstances.

Me too, though even if we get to final I won’t be attempting to get a ticket, I will be working that weekend.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: east-stand-nick on April 30, 2019, 02:53:39 PM
Me too, though even if we get to final I won’t be attempting to get a ticket, I will be working that weekend.

If we ended up finishing 5th I wouldn't have been able to attend due to working nights, I dropped lucky that our home leg is midweek.

Although I'll be on a plane over the Atlantic for the final because I'm an idiot  :-[
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: kirk on April 30, 2019, 02:55:34 PM
No. It's easy to blame the club and everyone / everything else.

We all know the score at the start of the season. Don't moan if things don't fall your way. You're not an innocent victim, you had the choice the same as everyone else to buy a season ticket. Didn't bother? Don't moan!


(Not you personally,generally)

Start the season no where was it stated season ticket holders will get 2 tickets for a play off semi final however it is stated membership gives you priority on non members for tickets. Most of these additional tickets will be to non members.

The club has just destroyed its membership scheme and in the process will result in lower attendances next season
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: TheJacko2000 on April 30, 2019, 03:06:11 PM
Start the season no where was it stated season ticket holders will get 2 tickets for a play off semi final however it is stated membership gives you priority on non members for tickets. Most of these additional tickets will be to non members.

The club has just destroyed its membership scheme and in the process will result in lower attendances next season


It hasn't and it won't; this play-off semi final is selling tickets the same way as every other home game this season where season ticket holders need their seats reserving (ie. cup matches).
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: Nickwba1 on April 30, 2019, 03:09:35 PM
Exactly with you on that Kirk. The whole point of loyalty points was to eradicate issues for games in high demand. To suddenly drop this stance and enable people with no booking record to get tickets through friends is shameful.

Yes, I've not been to many games this season so would hope that people that have been more often get the chance above myself, however to put on general sales effectively is unfair. I live in London and dont have the same connections to STH as many of those locally have to make use of this +1  benefit.

This club once again fails the supporters (and fully agree it's a joke what they did to STH's about renewals).
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: TheJacko2000 on April 30, 2019, 03:17:27 PM
Exactly with you on that Kirk. The whole point of loyalty points was to eradicate issues for games in high demand. To suddenly drop this stance and enable people with no booking record to get tickets through friends is shameful.

Yes, I've not been to many games this season so would hope that people that have been more often get the chance above myself, however to put on general sales effectively is unfair. I live in London and dont have the same connections to STH as many of those locally have to make use of this +1  benefit.

This club once again fails the supporters (and fully agree it's a joke what they did to STH's about renewals).


To my knowledge loyalty points have never been used for home games?
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: kirk on April 30, 2019, 03:35:28 PM

It hasn't and it won't; this play-off semi final is selling tickets the same way as every other home game this season where season ticket holders need their seats reserving (ie. cup matches).

And you can. No one is questioning STH having tickets it’s the extra ticket to non members that is the issue
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: kirk on April 30, 2019, 03:37:01 PM

To my knowledge loyalty points have never been used for home games?

And that is because sth had their seats and then members were able to purchase a ticket followed by people on their database. The club has just ripped up something that works.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: TheJacko2000 on April 30, 2019, 04:03:14 PM
And that is because sth had their seats and then members were able to purchase a ticket followed by people on their database. The club has just ripped up something that works.


Not true, my dad got me a ticket to the D1ngle5 play-off semi back in 2007, I wasn't a member and at the time wasn't a season ticket holder. He could have also got me tickets for all the cup games this season if demand hadn't meant I could get one on my membership.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: SmethDan on April 30, 2019, 04:26:30 PM

Not true, my dad got me a ticket to the D1ngle5 play-off semi back in 2007, I wasn't a member and at the time wasn't a season ticket holder. He could have also got me tickets for all the cup games this season if demand hadn't meant I could get one on my membership.

Home or away tie?
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: TheJacko2000 on April 30, 2019, 04:33:08 PM
Home or away tie?


Home mate, which is what we're talking about. I was playing cricket during the 3-2.  :o
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: kc56wba on April 30, 2019, 04:50:49 PM
Easy option to make sure you get a ticket for the home leg, buy a season ticket for next year, the deadline as been extended to 8pm tonight. The ticket office as been inundated all day.

Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: baggiejohn on April 30, 2019, 04:56:56 PM
El-gahzi red card recinded

No action on Houlihane

2 game ban for Bamford

John Percy 10 mins ago.

Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: kc56wba on April 30, 2019, 05:13:05 PM
El-gahzi red card recinded

No action on Houlihane

2 game ban for Bamford

John Percy 10 mins ago.

Baggie John  the yellow card Bamford got must have been for another offence then cause I thought you couldn't be punished twice for the same offence and I thought he got the yellow card for his part in the faracas.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: TheJacko2000 on April 30, 2019, 05:17:10 PM
Baggie John  the yellow card Bamford got must have been for another offence then cause I thought you couldn't be punished twice for the same offence and I thought he got the yellow card for his part in the faracas.


Different offence, he was booked for the handbags, he's been done with deceiving an official (simulation causing the red card). As an aside Hourihane escaping punishment beggars belief.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: kc56wba on April 30, 2019, 05:22:59 PM

Different offence, he was booked for the handbags, he's been done with deceiving an official (simulation causing the red card). As an aside Hourihane escaping punishment beggars belief.

Thanks Jacko.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: skyclad99 on April 30, 2019, 05:23:25 PM
Baggie John  the yellow card Bamford got must have been for another offence then cause I thought you couldn't be punished twice for the same offence and I thought he got the yellow card for his part in the faracas.


He was quite lippy to the ref Kev so I would guess dissent......
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: kc56wba on April 30, 2019, 05:24:01 PM

He was quite lippy to the ref Kev so I would guess dissent......

Cheers Kev
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: kirk on April 30, 2019, 05:32:42 PM
Easy option to make sure you get a ticket for the home leg, buy a season ticket for next year, the deadline as been extended to 8pm tonight. The ticket office as been inundated all day.

Easy option after 30 years I go and watch the moors since now not being a season ticket holder means I am only allowed to go and watch us play Rotherham.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: kc56wba on April 30, 2019, 05:44:29 PM
Easy option after 30 years I go and watch the moors since now not being a season ticket holder means I am only allowed to go and watch us play Rotherham.

Kirk have you ever missed out on any other tickets for important games?
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: BoingFlyer on April 30, 2019, 05:50:47 PM
The extra 10,000 - 15,000 "fans" will come crawling out of the woodwork.

Where are they the rest of the season?

They are on our database along with 15,000 more.

This is why we need a new West Stand we need to attract these "fans" back.

They are out there.

Who do you think make up the other 7,000 none season ticket holders each game?
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: kirk on April 30, 2019, 06:24:18 PM
Kirk have you ever missed out on any other tickets for important games?

Depends on what you class as important games, I will miss the away play off game which is only fair and right. Missing a home game due to the club trying to get fans to renew early. Once I gave up my season ticket it wasn’t the end of world nor will it be by watching lower league/non league as the membership scheme is now dead and why bother when the club treats you so shabby
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: BAGGIE5 on April 30, 2019, 06:27:36 PM
Ive heard villas first game will be the 12:30 kick off.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: TheJacko2000 on April 30, 2019, 06:29:39 PM
Still got a feeling we'll nick third and play Derby.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: hunsletbaggie on April 30, 2019, 07:01:40 PM
Still got a feeling we'll nick third and play Derby.
Really can't see Leeds losing to Ipswich not if they play like they did against the Vile.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: TheJacko2000 on April 30, 2019, 07:04:30 PM
Really can't see Leeds losing to Ipswich not if they play like they did against the Vile.


I think they'll fancy Villa again and make 11 changes, just a hunch, probably wide of the mark!!
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: 17GD on April 30, 2019, 07:22:18 PM
Not sure we need talk of "fans" in those speech marks. People attend when they can and when they like. I don't see the importance of how many games fans attend.

Does a fan attending all 46 games mean they're a better fan than someone who attends one game? No, because you don't know the reason. Some people have work, some can't afford it, some have illnesses... You being able to attend more matches means you're in the fortunate position of having more money and time.

With regards ticket sales, the club have deemed this route the best way to avoid fake tickets or tickets being sold on, as is the case with many concert tickets. Is it ideal? Well that depends on how far down the priority you are. I've made about 10 games this season with work and finances playing their part. That's life.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: baggiejohn on April 30, 2019, 08:01:21 PM


With regards ticket sales, the club have deemed this route the best way to avoid fake tickets or tickets being sold on, as is the case with many concert tickets. Is it ideal? Well that depends on how far down the priority you are. I've made about 10 games this season with work and finances playing their part. That's life.

The club will know, from this season's sales, the proportion of STH's who buy additional tickets.
I suspect they have taken that into account when devising the sales plan. While, in theory, it's possible that there won't be any tickets for members, I doubt that any member who has a track record of attending games will be disappointed.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: wbarenno on April 30, 2019, 08:17:24 PM
Anyone that wants a ticket will get a ticket 100%
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: kirk on April 30, 2019, 09:51:00 PM
The club will know, from this season's sales, the proportion of STH's who buy additional tickets.
I suspect they have taken that into account when devising the sales plan. While, in theory, it's possible that there won't be any tickets for members, I doubt that any member who has a track record of attending games will be disappointed.

According to the club their are only 50 members who have attended 2 home games or more .... we must all be on social media or the clubs database has massively got things wrong
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: Albionic on April 30, 2019, 09:57:08 PM
According to the club their are only 50 members who have attended 2 home games or more .... we must all be on social media or the clubs database has massively got things wrong

thought i recognised you !
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: TheJacko2000 on April 30, 2019, 09:57:44 PM
According to the club their are only 50 members who have attended 2 home games or more .... we must all be on social media or the clubs database has massively got things wrong


I'm one of the 50. Suspect they've got this wrong.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: kirk on April 30, 2019, 10:25:47 PM

I'm one of the 50. Suspect they've got this wrong.

That is what they told me and that is why they have planned ticket sales like this
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: TheJacko2000 on April 30, 2019, 10:37:43 PM
That is what they told me and that is why they have planned ticket sales like this


I would also like to back you up on an earlier point, while it's only anecdotal evidence, I know a lot of HST holders (bearing in mind I'm not local) who will be buying a 2nd ticket.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: iwastherein68 on April 30, 2019, 10:46:43 PM
Here is one ST holder who will not be buying a ticket for anyone else. My son and daughter are both ST holders also and have said the same. Your ST entitles you to ONE seat and should not give you any other preference. It was this kind of rubbish which almost denied me the Cup Final ticket I was entitled to in 1968.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: BlackCountryVilla on April 30, 2019, 11:13:50 PM
Ive heard villas first game will be the 12:30 kick off.
For the last 10+ seasons Match A 3rd v 6th has been the first kick off, apart from when the police made Norwich and Ipswich kick off at 12 on the Sunday. We will be the 5:30 on the Saturday and then the Wednesday night.

I can't see the police intervening with our kick off time if we play you. We played on a Friday night this season and there will only be 2000 away fans at each game so far easier to police than when you had 6k at the cup game in 2015.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: kirk on May 01, 2019, 07:17:22 AM

I would also like to back you up on an earlier point, while it's only anecdotal evidence, I know a lot of HST holders (bearing in mind I'm not local) who will be buying a 2nd ticket.

WBA must be reading my social media posts... they have just emailed me to correct themselves there data informs them that 50 members on average buy a ticket when they qualify to buy one.

You couldn’t make it up we must have total idiots running the club from top to bottom
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: baggiejohn on May 01, 2019, 07:52:09 AM
WBA must be reading my social media posts... they have just emailed me to correct themselves there data informs them that 50 members on average buy a ticket when they qualify to buy one.

You couldn’t make it up we must have total idiots running the club from top to bottom

Idiots or not, if only 50 members on average buy a ticket when they qualify to buy one, I'd say the sales plan for the play-offs was about right, & members who have attended two or more games will get a ticket.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: kirk on May 01, 2019, 08:41:22 AM
Idiots or not, if only 50 members on average buy a ticket when they qualify to buy one, I'd say the sales plan for the play-offs was about right, & members who have attended two or more games will get a ticket.

Are you serious saying playing Rotherham etc is the same as a final or play off semi final?
They have already told me to put a complaint into the club (but what is the point) the people on the ground know people will not get tickets
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: kc56wba on May 01, 2019, 09:41:07 AM
Are you serious saying playing Rotherham etc is the same as a final or play off semi final?
They have already told me to put a complaint into the club (but what is the point) the people on the ground know people will not get tickets

Kirk there are many season ticket holders who will not be buying a extra ticket, me being one.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: MarkW on May 01, 2019, 10:26:39 AM
I would be absolutely astonished if the club have an up to date Single Customer View of our supporters. Without giving too much away, a colleague of mine approached the club to do some work and was told there wasn't the finances due to being relegated

On a personal note, I often get duplicate emails from the club, so clearly they don't have a great grasp of their customer database.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: BoingFlyer on May 01, 2019, 11:11:02 AM
I think people are overestimating the number of season tickets holders who will buy a 2nd ticket. When I had my ST I went with other ST holders. There may be a few members who ask a ST holder to sort out a ticket for them out of fear of missing out. But all they are doing is reducing the competition for the members allocation as well as number of tickets.

From a business point of view if they are new fans been bought to an excellent game with a ST holder we may flog a few more tickets or season tickets next year. Probably not a popular opinion but it might help recruit some new fans.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: baggiejohn on May 01, 2019, 11:34:25 AM
Are you serious saying playing Rotherham etc is the same as a final or play off semi final?
They have already told me to put a complaint into the club (but what is the point) the people on the ground know people will not get tickets

Your argument is members will not get tickets.

The club have said, on average 50 members take tickets for home games, by analysing ticket sales, they will probably know if it's the same 50 members. Even if it's 50 different members that's still only around 650 who could have attended 2 home games, seriously don't see a problem.

Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: baggiejohn on May 01, 2019, 11:42:53 AM
I would be absolutely astonished if the club have an up to date Single Customer View of our supporters. Without giving too much away, a colleague of mine approached the club to do some work and was told there wasn't the finances due to being relegated

On a personal note, I often get duplicate emails from the club, so clearly they don't have a great grasp of their customer database.

I know you've said before, that the club has been approached about analysis, but it's not difficult to do a one-off interrogation of tickets sales.
Otherwise, how do they know that on average 50 members buy match tickets?

Isn't the ticketing mechanism done by a third party? I would imagine analysis is part of the package.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: tommcneill on May 01, 2019, 12:47:14 PM
I know you've said before, that the club has been approached about analysis, but it's not difficult to do a one-off interrogation of tickets sales.
Otherwise, how do they know that on average 50 members buy match tickets?

Isn't the ticketing mechanism done by a third party? I would imagine analysis is part of the package.

Unless they are using some extremely old software id say it was a very simple report that they could print off from the system
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: baggiejohn on May 01, 2019, 01:59:11 PM
Unless they are using some extremely old software id say it was a very simple report that they could print off from the system

I'd say so, most sales packages these days come with some form of analysis.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: KN22 on May 01, 2019, 10:56:05 PM
Really wanted Derby to win tonight to ensure play off berth. They now have to beat us to ensure that you know who sneaks into play offs through the back door. Never want us to lose a game but might not cry on Sunday if we do so.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: BalisPen on May 02, 2019, 12:58:09 AM
Really wanted Derby to win tonight to ensure play off berth. They now have to beat us to ensure that you know who sneaks into play offs through the back door. Never want us to lose a game but might not cry on Sunday if we do so.

That's what I was hoping for too. Don't want pulis in there, and until routledge scored all was going so well.

I don't think boro will lose to Rotherham so Derby have to win, which I cannot bring myself to hope for.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: tuamigos on May 02, 2019, 06:43:44 AM
That's what I was hoping for too. Don't want pulis in there, and until routledge scored all was going so well.

I don't think boro will lose to Rotherham so Derby have to win, which I cannot bring myself to hope for.

Hopefully we can beat Derby, Boro lose or draw and Bristol win by 2 goals that way Pulis and Derby are out.
Two birds with one stone so to speak.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: Nathan on May 02, 2019, 10:35:28 AM
Hopefully we can beat Derby, Boro lose or draw and Bristol win by 2 goals that way Pulis and Derby are out.
Two birds with one stone so to speak.

If we beat Derby and Boro don't win at Rotherham, then any win for Bristol away at Hull will be enough for them, in that scenario goal difference wont come into it. I can actually see this happening. With Derby seriously needing to go for it against us, if we turn up with intent on Sunday, i.e. with Gayle and Phillips starting, then the need for Derby to attack us will/should play into our hands on the counter attack. I think Boro will blow it by only drawing at Rotherham.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: ronnie_allen on May 02, 2019, 11:06:40 AM
If we beat Derby and Boro don't win at Rotherham, then any win for Bristol away at Hull will be enough for them, in that scenario goal difference wont come into it. I can actually see this happening. With Derby seriously needing to go for it against us, if we turn up with intent on Sunday, i.e. with Gayle and Phillips starting, then the need for Derby to attack us will/should play into our hands on the counter attack. I think Boro will blow it by only drawing at Rotherham.

Don't like the thought of this. Just imagine Richard Keogh doing a few rought them up challenges in the first few minutes and either have them hiding for the remainder of the game or at serious risk of injury. Phillips in particular. Effectively a pre-season game for us and need to manage with maximising our resources for the 11th of May.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: tuamigos on May 02, 2019, 11:13:43 AM
Don't like the thought of this. Just imagine Richard Keogh doing a few rought them up challenges in the first few minutes and either have them hiding for the remainder of the game or at serious risk of injury. Phillips in particular. Effectively a pre-season game for us and need to manage with maximising our resources for the 11th of May.

I believe Keogh went off with a groin injury on 66 minutes last night so might be missing
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: ronnie_allen on May 02, 2019, 11:16:15 AM
I believe Keogh went off with a groin injury on 66 minutes last night so might be missing

Fair enough. Still generally want to manage momentum with getting players to peak fitness (incl. avoiding risk of injury/suspension) for the play-offs.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: BalisPen on May 02, 2019, 11:52:47 AM
If it helps anyone, if we finish 4th then the game at vile is definitely 5.30pm and at ours on Wednesday.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: seteefeet on May 02, 2019, 12:06:44 PM
Fair enough. Still generally want to manage momentum with getting players to peak fitness (incl. avoiding risk of injury/suspension) for the play-offs.
Definitely need to rest our most important / vulnerable players so no Phillips, Gayle, Hegazi, Gibbs or Rodriguez for me.
Bond should have a game as well and, if he does well, keep his place for the play offs. How Johnstone has survived all season is beyond me but it's not too late to change. Bond could be the difference between success and failure.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: Nathan on May 02, 2019, 12:14:32 PM
Definitely need to rest our most important / vulnerable players so no Phillips, Gayle, Hegazi, Gibbs or Rodriguez for me.
Bond should have a game as well and, if he does well, keep his place for the play offs. How Johnstone has survived all season is beyond me but it's not too late to change. Bond could be the difference between success and failure.

There is a very fine line on this point for me. Isn't the resting of our most influential players something we have already been doing on and off for the last month? It hasn't exactly helped achieve any real momentum has it. I don't feel our chances in the playoffs have been boosted by this one bit. I take your point with regards to risk of injury but just as importantly we need our influential players to hit the ground running in the play offs, they need to be 100% match sharp and full of confidence. A morale boosting performance at Derby would be just the ticket for me, I think that overrides the risk of injury.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: Sted1990 on May 02, 2019, 12:28:48 PM
If it helps anyone, if we finish 4th then the game at vile is definitely 5.30pm and at ours on Wednesday.

Villa are saying the kick off off time at their place is TBC?
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: BalisPen on May 02, 2019, 12:41:51 PM
I rang the ticket office and they said that if we finish 4th then it is 5.30pm away and Wednesday at home.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: FallOutBoy on May 02, 2019, 12:46:55 PM
So if we beat Derby, Middlesboro could get the play-off spot. We could then finish third, and face the Pulis across two legs.

But if we lose Boro can't get the last spot, but we end up playing Villa.

A draw means we might see Boro in the play-offs, but we'll play Villa.

Talk about a nightmare scenario.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: KN22 on May 02, 2019, 12:52:59 PM
So if we beat Derby, Middlesboro could get the play-off spot. We could then finish third, and face the Pulis across two legs.

But if we lose Boro can't get the last spot, but we end up playing Villa.

A draw means we might see Boro in the play-offs, but we'll play Villa.

Talk about a nightmare scenario.

Indeed.... there are no easy scenarios are there? We have to play the hand we are dealt and get on with things. Could still be a glorious outcome and I will still be confident until it is no longer possible to be so.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: seteefeet on May 02, 2019, 02:02:28 PM
So if we beat Derby, Middlesboro could get the play-off spot. We could then finish third, and face the Pulis across two legs.

But if we lose Boro can't get the last spot, but we end up playing Villa.

A draw means we might see Boro in the play-offs, but we'll play Villa.

Talk about a nightmare scenario.
Villa are the only team we can play who we are unbeaten against.
Head to head

Villa 4-2 won 1, drawn 1
Derby 1-4 lost 1, ??
Boro 2-4 lost 2
Bristol City 6-5 won 1, lost 1

Finish 4th and take the easy route  ;)
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: BlackCountryVilla on May 02, 2019, 02:35:37 PM
Villa are the only team we can play who we are unbeaten against.
Head to head

Villa 4-2 won 1, drawn 1
Derby 1-4 lost 1, ??
Boro 2-4 lost 2
Bristol City 6-5 won 1, lost 1

Finish 4th and take the easy route  ;)
Technically we all but beat you but for a last minute handball that would have been ruled out 99 times out of 100 but let's not go there again  ;)

We're hoping Boro get the last spot. They haven't scored against us in the last six league meetings, barely registered a shot against us in last season's play offs and we seem to have the sign over them. Two 3-0 wins against them this season although we beat Derby 7-0 on aggregate.

I think Boro could bore their way through against Leeds and would be the easiest potential final opponents IF we got there.

No chance will Leeds lose at Ipswich so it will be us v you in the semis.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: seteefeet on May 02, 2019, 02:56:11 PM
Anyone considered this nightmare scenario?

Boro lose to Rotherham and Pulis gets the sack

We win the play offs and get promoted, yet are still technically managerless so, advert goes out for manager with proven Premier League track record.

Sweet Dreams  :o
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: tuamigos on May 02, 2019, 02:59:06 PM
Technically we all but beat you but for a last minute handball that would have been ruled out 99 times out of 100 but let's not go there again  ;)

We're hoping Boro get the last spot. They haven't scored against us in the last six league meetings, barely registered a shot against us in last season's play offs and we seem to have the sign over them. Two 3-0 wins against them this season although we beat Derby 7-0 on aggregate.

I think Boro could bore their way through against Leeds and would be the easiest potential final opponents IF we got there.

No chance will Leeds lose at Ipswich so it will be us v you in the semis.

The result was a draw, nothing to do with technicalities.
It was a draw.
Dress it up how you like.
It was still a draw.
Technically you haven't beat us this season.
Technically we have taken 4 points off you.
The play off games should be corkers and may the best team win so long as its us.  ;)
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: BlackCountryVilla on May 02, 2019, 03:05:38 PM
The result was a draw, nothing to do with technicalities.
It was a draw.
Dress it up how you like.
It was still a draw.
Technically you haven't beat us this season.
Technically we have taken 4 points off you.
The play off games should be corkers and may the best team win so long as its us.  ;)
  :-*

Should be two cracking semi finals I agree and two crackling atmospheres reminiscent of the cup game in 2015.
I actually think us playing at home first will suit us with 40k hopefully spurring us on to a first leg lead. I think it would have suited you lot more to get a lead at home first leg and then come to VP and be able to play on the break.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: TheJacko2000 on May 02, 2019, 03:21:07 PM
  :-*

Should be two cracking semi finals I agree and two crackling atmospheres reminiscent of the cup game in 2015.
I actually think us playing at home first will suit us with 40k hopefully spurring us on to a first leg lead. I think it would have suited you lot more to get a lead at home first leg and then come to VP and be able to play on the break.


Or we could just dominate the entire VP game much like the league game, then play out an even Stevens draw at home... Much like the League game.


I'm still not convinced Bielsa won't rest his entire 1st XI on Sunday in the hopes of playing you again with last weekends debacle fresh in the players memory. Problem being, I expect us to rest the better players also (Gayle, Phillips, Hegazi, Brunt, Gibbs etc.) meaning it's unlikely we'll get the required 3 points to leap frog them.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: crazedwbafan18 on May 02, 2019, 03:22:42 PM
Anyone considered this nightmare scenario?

Boro lose to Rotherham and Pulis gets the sack

We win the play offs and get promoted, yet are still technically managerless so, advert goes out for manager with proven Premier League track record.

Sweet Dreams  :o
i'd be amazed if he came back, annnnnd jinx
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: tylerm on May 02, 2019, 04:05:07 PM

Or we could just dominate the entire VP game much like the league game, then play out an even Stevens draw at home... Much like the League game.


I'm still not convinced Bielsa won't rest his entire 1st XI on Sunday in the hopes of playing you again with last weekends debacle fresh in the players memory. Problem being, I expect us to rest the better players also (Gayle, Phillips, Hegazi, Brunt, Gibbs etc.) meaning it's unlikely we'll get the required 3 points to leap frog them.

I have just read that 10 of the squad that started the previous game must be included on Sunday. These are new EFL rules. I presume that’s squad and not team but it does make a difference to team selection
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: BlackCountryVilla on May 02, 2019, 04:13:11 PM
From the Express and Star:

If #wba finish fourth they will visit #avfc at 12.30pm on Saturday, May 11, then host the return leg on Tuesday, May 14 (8pm). If they finish third, they will travel to either Derby/Boro/Bristol C at 5.15pm on the Saturday, with the home leg on Wednesday, May 15 (8pm). Clear?


WMP will definitely have been consulted with that and said they didn't want Villa v Albion as the late kick off, as Game B is always the later second kick off.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: BalisPen on May 02, 2019, 04:24:01 PM
The lady I spoke to was wrong.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: kc56wba on May 02, 2019, 04:34:18 PM
From the EFL WEB PAGE.

www.efl.com/news/2019/may/sky-bet-efl-play-off-semi-final-details/

If we play the vile scum from Witton it will be 12,30 at vile Park
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: Pie on May 02, 2019, 06:10:02 PM
Urgh going to be on a train at the time. Radio it is  :'(
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: TheJacko2000 on May 02, 2019, 06:12:48 PM
I have just read that 10 of the squad that started the previous game must be included on Sunday. These are new EFL rules. I presume that’s squad and not team but it does make a difference to team selection


Not really, take 7 out of the squad completely, bench the other 4. Pointless rule imo.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: Albionic on May 02, 2019, 06:54:54 PM
I'm being thick here,

11 players and 7 subs = the match day squad, therefore 18
10 min must be same, we can therefore change out 8

So we could start with 8 "new" players plus 3 who played in previous match

what am I missing?
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: WBAinDEVON on May 02, 2019, 07:09:47 PM
finish fourth will be ideal for me in Bendorm, get to see both games, flying back home on the wednesday
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: wbarenno on May 02, 2019, 07:26:36 PM
I'm being thick here,

11 players and 7 subs = the match day squad, therefore 18
10 min must be same, we can therefore change out 8

So we could start with 8 "new" players plus 3 who played in previous match

what am I missing?

18 players which include 2 goalkeepers , it says ten outfield players have to be the same so you have to add the 2 keepers on top of that , technically it’s 12 players.so 6 outfield players can be dropped completely
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: caravanc58 on May 02, 2019, 08:40:11 PM
finish fourth will be ideal for me in Bendorm, get to see both games, flying back home on the wednesday
show some optimism, you'll be able to see 3 games.😁
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: KN22 on May 02, 2019, 10:41:14 PM
finish fourth will be ideal for me in Bendorm, get to see both games, flying back home on the wednesday

Don’t you ever come to the games these days?
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: tuamigos on May 03, 2019, 01:06:27 PM
We're in a position where our next 3 games could be against Derby  :o
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: OldburyWBA on May 03, 2019, 06:05:15 PM
We're in a position where our next 3 games could be against Derby  :o

Think the only way we can play Derby is for us to beat them, Leeds to lose and then Boro and Bristol City to both also lose
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: BlackCountryVilla on May 03, 2019, 07:33:39 PM
Our home leg has sold out already. There will be a scramble on Sunday for the few tickets where season ticket holders haven't claimed their seat.

Heard that both teams will get 2000 away tickets.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: OldburyWBA on May 03, 2019, 08:15:56 PM
Our home leg has sold out already. There will be a scramble on Sunday for the few tickets where season ticket holders haven't claimed their seat.

Heard that both teams will get 2000 away tickets.

Yeah we've been told 2183 apparently so hopefully we give you the same and not a single one more
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: the other AJ on May 04, 2019, 04:26:40 AM
Yeah we've been told 2183 apparently so hopefully we give you the same and not a single one more

Hope so and the segregation area is increased to pick up the 5-600 empty seats. Might be advisable depending on the outcome after the second 90 minutes.
That said, this is Albion and there’s revenue to be made, so.........
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: tuamigos on May 04, 2019, 06:47:20 AM
Missed it somewhere , but are the home play off leg tickets on sale from Monday?
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: Brummie Road on May 04, 2019, 09:22:04 AM
Missed it somewhere , but are the home play off leg tickets on sale from Monday?

Yes, though no idea why Albion didn't start selling them from last weekend when we knew the 2nd leg would be at The Hawthorns.

I know the specific date and opposition are not known, but it's obviously going to be on the Tuesday or Wednesday night so not sure why they didn't at least start allowing Season Ticket holders to get their seats reserved for it rather than waiting for Monday and then the rush on Tuesday when STH's can buy an extra seat.

Just seems strange when Villa have been selling theirs already for the Saturday game.

 
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: zippyandbungle on May 04, 2019, 10:00:17 AM
Yes, though no idea why Albion didn't start selling them from last weekend when we knew the 2nd leg would be at The Hawthorns.

I know the specific date and opposition are not known, but it's obviously going to be on the Tuesday or Wednesday night so not sure why they didn't at least start allowing Season Ticket holders to get their seats reserved for it rather than waiting for Monday and then the rush on Tuesday when STH's can buy an extra seat.

Just seems strange when Villa have been selling theirs already for the Saturday game.
Villa always sell tickets in advance
You can now get their champions league final tickets for 2020-2021
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: hunsletbaggie on May 05, 2019, 08:49:24 AM
Villa always sell tickets in advance
You can now get their champions league final tickets for 2020-2021
Yes but will Grealish be playing for the Vile or Barca in the final?
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: zippyandbungle on May 05, 2019, 12:40:38 PM
Yes but will Grealish be playing for the Vile or Barca in the final?
He's clearly above both ...expect him to sign for Saturn
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: Dexy on May 05, 2019, 02:40:18 PM
Struggling to see anything positive for this , we don't know our best 11 , we have no understanding between the core of the team , same awful defending with the same awful goals going in.
Mentally weak.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: TheJacko2000 on May 05, 2019, 02:43:32 PM
Struggling to see anything positive for this , we don't know our best 11 , we have no understanding between the core of the team , same awful defending with the same awful goals going in.
Mentally weak.


I think we know our best 11.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: wba_1996 on May 05, 2019, 02:44:49 PM
I wouldn't fancy us against anyone in this league over 2 legs. I've got zero expectations going into these games, except that I'm expecting us to embarrass ourselves. We won't play well, that's a given, just get our best 11 players on the pitch and hope that their quality makes up for the fact that we haven't had a manager this season.

Johnstone
Holgate - Dawson - Hegazi - Gibbs
Phillips - Johansen - Brunt
Rodriguez - Gayle - Montero
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: Dexy on May 05, 2019, 02:46:33 PM
R
I think we know our best 11.
We do , not convinced Shan does .
4 or 5 at the back ? . All over the shop mate.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: mr multivac on May 05, 2019, 02:49:14 PM
Considering we’ve hardly got out of second gear all season
and not one players broke out into a sweat
We’ve strolled into the play offs

Need to turn up now for three games
Not as though anybody’s going to be worried by us let’s surprise them all
 And move through the gears and start performing
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: TheJacko2000 on May 05, 2019, 02:50:48 PM
We do , not convinced Shan does .
4 or 5 at the back ? . All over the shop mate.


I say that then the next poster plucks Montero out of the air and shuffles Rodriguez back out wide.


We're going to play 352.


Johnstone


Dawson
Bartley
Hegazi


Holgate
Phillips
Brunt
Johansen
Gibbs


Rodriguez
Gayle


I just pray Livermore isn't fit.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: kris_boing on May 05, 2019, 02:53:42 PM

We've got no chance.  These players haven't performed all season and there's no sign of us kicking in to gear any time soon.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: alex1 on May 05, 2019, 02:55:27 PM
Relieved Boro and Pulis are not part of it. I just fancy us more in an open game than in a typical Pulis game. Thats assuming we get past Villa.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: maximus on May 05, 2019, 02:57:07 PM
Don't have a clue what out best formation is, Personal, Players have been chopped and changed, Like it's press randomise and go from there.

How we don't have a manger is laughable, And the players are running the show it's evident.

Villa will spank us, We all know and sense it. They had numerous chances against us at home, And Grealish was't playing the 2nd game.

Jenkins needs to answer for alot. Roll on the massive clearance in the summer.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: hunsletbaggie on May 05, 2019, 03:05:55 PM
Can't see us beating the Vile you need to do what Leeds did and put someone on Grealish we just don't have anyone who can do what Kalvin Phillips did.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: kie the baggie on May 05, 2019, 03:13:37 PM
Wonder when the ticket announcement will be
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: Dexy on May 05, 2019, 03:17:04 PM

I say that then the next poster plucks Montero out of the air and shuffles Rodriguez back out wide.


We're going to play 352.


Johnstone


Dawson
Bartley
Hegazi


Holgate
Phillips
Brunt
Johansen
Gibbs


Rodriguez
Gayle


I just pray Livermore isn't fit.
The only bite we have is Livermore , that said I wouldn't be surprised to see Harper.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: maximus on May 05, 2019, 03:17:43 PM
Can't see us beating the Vile you need to do what Leeds did and put someone on Grealish we just don't have anyone who can do what Kalvin Phillips did.

I'd say Harper but the mans made his mind up and is elsewhere, Maybe Field could do the job, Definitely not Livermore though.

 
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: gazberg on May 05, 2019, 03:19:59 PM
Due to Harper's poor attitude I think I'd rather see Livermore ahead of him. Can't believe I've had to type that.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: Atomic on May 05, 2019, 03:20:14 PM
I'd say Harper but the mans made his mind up and is elsewhere, Maybe Field could do the job, Definitely not Livermore though.


Definitely not Harper he switches off too much, not disciplined enough for that role.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: Dexy on May 05, 2019, 03:23:31 PM

Definitely not Harper he switches off too much, not disciplined enough for that role.
Sam Field marked Erikson out of it away at Spurs last season , worth a look.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: gazberg on May 05, 2019, 03:24:57 PM
Just can't see the ball winner out of Brunt, Phillips and Johansen.
Brunt can't tackle and shouldn't. Phillips is big and quick so you think he would have it in him but he doesn't. Johansen is the best of the 3 at it but wouldn't describe him as such
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: kie the baggie on May 05, 2019, 03:25:25 PM
I'd say Harper but the mans made his mind up and is elsewhere, Maybe Field could do the job, Definitely not Livermore though.
Dont get the fascination with field, dont think ive really seen him do anything, bar goal at bolton. Plays too safe, lighweight, league 1 player
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: gazberg on May 05, 2019, 03:26:04 PM
Field yes I'd overlooked him. He would be ahead of Harper and Livermore for me anyways.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: Atomic on May 05, 2019, 03:44:05 PM
I'd be going 4-5-1 against Villa. Only chance we have is to stifle them. We have to have a holding player against Grealish. Field is the only one who can do that.


                                      Johnstone

Holgate          Dawson                        Hegazi            Gibbs

Phillips          Johansen     Field           Brunt              Rodriguez

                                      Gayle
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: mulliganstired on May 05, 2019, 03:44:27 PM
Villa will be licking their lips, and will reckon they can finish this as a contest at their place.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: paulosull on May 05, 2019, 03:45:02 PM
Think Appleton should take over as head coach as Shan is clearly out of his depth, Bartley as captain Jimmy really, f ing another clueless coach.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: koren on May 05, 2019, 03:50:24 PM
Field yes I'd overlooked him. He would be ahead of Harper and Livermore for me anyways.
Yes. He can tackle and his area coverage is larger than the others.
But he won't be included in the match-day squad after Livermore and Brunt return.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: tlms-p23 on May 05, 2019, 03:54:10 PM
Difficult to think we'll go up on today's showing.

One thing that irked me this afternoon, but wasn't in any way surprising, was what happens when we're under the pump and the other team has momentum and a spell of forward thrust. We concede and down tools and we're overrun. We were dogs**t once they made it 2-1.

Happened against Derby at home and today. Boro' at home. Leeds away. Bristol City away. Happened against Bristol City at home as well (though we did win 4-2). I'd argue that is has happened many more times than that against sides of lesser quality who haven't capitalised on the chances they create/are gifted.

We are a patchy side. We can score and create. We also concede spells of dominance in games and that has been a theme of the season throughout.

Obviously would LOVE to see us go up but can't help but think we'll be rubbish for 25 minutes somewhere along the line and that'll do for us. 
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: wbarenno on May 05, 2019, 03:58:09 PM
https://www.wba.co.uk/news/2019/may/play-offs-away-leg-ticket-details/

2000 tickets for the away leg and Matt Wilson has tweeted saying we will only sell 2000 tickets to villa fans

Does that mean we will move the void over and sell more tickets to home fans?

Can 2000 even be segregated? Thought it was 1800 max
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: paulosull on May 05, 2019, 04:03:36 PM
Difficult to think we'll go up on today's showing.

One thing that irked me this afternoon, but wasn't in any way surprising, was what happens when we're under the pump and the other team has momentum and a spell of forward thrust. We concede and down tools and we're overrun. We were dogs**t once they made it 2-1.

Happened against Derby at home and today. Boro' at home. Leeds away. Bristol City away. Happened against Bristol City at home as well (though we did win 4-2). I'd argue that is has happened many more times than that against sides of lesser quality who haven't capitalised on the chances they create/are gifted.

We are a patchy side. We can score and create. We also concede spells of dominance in games and that has been a theme of the season throughout.

Obviously would LOVE to see us go up but can't help but think we'll be rubbish for 25 minutes somewhere along the line and that'll do for us.
all down to having no control what so ever in midfield and its been criminal by those in charge that they haven't addressed this problem. Jenkins and Dowling should be shown the door as they are not the people to take club forward as for lying he needs to show some sort of interest in club or he might as well say goodbye to his investment.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: alex1 on May 05, 2019, 04:06:45 PM
HRK has given us a real problem. Even if he's not worthy of a starting place, we can't be going into games with ony 2 regular strikers in the squad. Over 90 minutes you've got the fatigue factor, and at Wembley it could be over 120 minutes.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: wbarenno on May 05, 2019, 04:09:06 PM
HRK has given us a real problem. Even if he's not worthy of a starting place, we can't be going into games with ony 2 regular strikers in the squad. Over 90 minutes you've got the fatigue factor, and at Wembley it could be over 120 minutes.

Is rather play a goalkeeper or a full back or a center half or a defensive midfielder etc etc then robson Kanu up front
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: TheJacko2000 on May 05, 2019, 04:11:51 PM
https://www.wba.co.uk/news/2019/may/play-offs-away-leg-ticket-details/ (https://www.wba.co.uk/news/2019/may/play-offs-away-leg-ticket-details/)

2000 tickets for the away leg and Matt Wilson has tweeted saying we will only sell 2000 tickets to villa fans

Does that mean we will move the void over and sell more tickets to home fans?

Can 2000 even be segregated? Thought it was 1800 max


If we give them 2000 the segregation area will be larger. They cannot divide the concourse in this way.


All restricting the away allocation in this way will do is reduce the capacity of the ground.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: maximus on May 05, 2019, 04:16:42 PM
Can't Burke be eligible to play in the playoffs?
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: paulosull on May 05, 2019, 04:24:55 PM

If we give them 2000 the segregation area will be larger. They cannot divide the concourse in this way.


All restricting the away allocation in this way will do is reduce the capacity of the ground.
we should reduce theirs to 1800 and increase size of home allocation.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: gazberg on May 05, 2019, 04:31:24 PM
Each club has given the other 2k so there will be around 700 empty seats at our leg.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: BigFrank20 on May 05, 2019, 04:31:54 PM
Albion will contest the first leg of their Sky Bet Championship Play-Off semi-final against Aston Villa at Villa Park on Saturday, May 11 (ko 12.30pm).
Tickets on sale from 9am Tuesday
On sale online and in person
Dedicated telephone line for disabled supporters only
Tickets will only be available for purchase online at wbatickets.co.uk or in person at The Hawthorns ticket office.
Please note there will be no telephone sales for Play-Off games. The only exception to this is for disabled supporters who should use the designated number sent by email from the Club last week. All queries should be directed by email to tickets@wbafc.co.uk. or our dedicated Twitter account @WBA_Support.
Tuesday, May 7   From 9am   Away season-ticket holders
       From 1pm   2018/19 and/or 2019/20 HSTH who have attended 10 or more away fixtures this season
Wednesday, May 8   From 9am   2019/20 HSTH who have attended 6 or more away fixtures this season
    From 1pm   2018/19 HSTH who have attended 6 or more away fixtures this season
Thursday, May 9   From 9am   2019/20 HSTH who have attended 4 or more away fixtures this season
    From 1pm   2018/19 HSTH who have attended 4 or more away fixtures this season
Prices
Adult   Â£25
Seniors (65 and over), under-21s & students   Â£10
Under-18s   Â£5
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: KN22 on May 05, 2019, 04:40:44 PM
Don't have a clue what out best formation is, Personal, Players have been chopped and changed, Like it's press randomise and go from there.

How we don't have a manger is laughable, And the players are running the show it's evident.

Villa will spank us, We all know and sense it. They had numerous chances against us at home, And Grealish was't playing the 2nd game.

Jenkins needs to answer for alot. Roll on the massive clearance in the summer.

You may know that they will spank us but I don’t. Just how good do you think Villa are? I appreciate that they will be favourites but we have a chance, I really believe that.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: maximus on May 05, 2019, 05:28:54 PM
You may know that they will spank us but I don’t. Just how good do you think Villa are? I appreciate that they will be favourites but we have a chance, I really believe that.

It's because we dont even have or know our best 11 or personal, Villa have that now, It's all momentum based and confidence, Our lot lately have bottled it, Mix that with we don't even have a manager to sort them out, Then it all points to a spanking. It's inevitable since our lot are bottle jobs lately.

For me Shan got it majorly wrong today with that set-up and scares the life out of me thinking were going to have 3 at the back again with Bartley in the centre.

Villa will be well up for it, The whole ground will be. I just don't see leaders in our team willing to cope with that.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: The Black Pearl on May 05, 2019, 06:28:27 PM
We do , not convinced Shan does .
4 or 5 at the back ? . All over the shop mate.

This in spades, the most disjointed Albion side in two decades.
Title: Re: Play offs
Post by: OldburyWBA on May 05, 2019, 06:30:46 PM
Topics open for play off in matchday threads