Portsmouth relegated then, feel sorry for Appleton - add the 10 points they were deducted and they would be safe.
Do we have to use the offical sponsor name in the name thread? It really is only the championship after all we all know what that is.
Am glad Southampton are coming up becuase i think West Ham are the only team that could beat Birmingham in the Play-offs.
Agree with the posts above, preferably not Birmingham or West ham. Im hoping for a Blackpool return but can't see it happening.
Anybody else watching?
Some potential new signings on display, or even a manager from one of the teams who don't make it up.
West Ham 1-0 up atm.
Grrrrrrrr 0-2. >:(
Yeah but Cardiff have been pretty shocking. Two soft, soft goals even if the second was well struck.
Grrrrrrrr 0-2. >:(
On the bright side it perhaps will just be more painful for West Ham if they lose the final. :D
Blues won't be too disappointed with that scoreline. They will fancy their chances at home.i think theyll face west ham in the final :( 2-0 to blackpool couldve been a different story
1-0 isn't too bad, would love blues to win the playoffsI suppose you'll love any chance of us keeping Foster going out the window as well thenwould you?
I can't see how Foster staying with us depends on if blues go up or not, if he wants to sign for us he will signagain, boils down to money i suspect and the payments they receive if they go up meaning they can keep hold of him. also, i think it is the clause that if they come up they have the right to keep foster or something.
Half of my family are blues, the real rivals are villa and wolves.Agreed, I genuinely have a dislike for most Villa fans, arrogant, deluded and pompous. Blues fans are on the whole a decent bunch - where singing 'Come on you baggies' before the Villa match on sunday as well at ST Andrews.
I think it's a lot to do with us and blues have always been the same type of ambition and level and most bluenoses are good, friendly bantered fans instead of dingles or seals
I dont mind blues but i 100% want them to stay down.
Its the only chance weve got of getting foster and more importantly hughton! It was in fosters deal that if blues dont go up we get first pick with him, also hughton wouldnt leave blues to come to us if we were both in the prem!
wouldnt want to be in the championship next year so many big sides:
west ham/blues/cardiff only 1 can go up
Derby notts forrest lecister
ipswich
wolves
sheffield wednesday maybe followed by shef united through playoffs
Wouldn't want to be in the Championship FULL STOP.
It's a long, hard slog from start to finish and as we all well know, you are just as likely to be turned over by the sides at the bottom as those at the top!
I hope the noses lose on penalties tonight and then hopefully Blackpool beat West Ham in the final. The slag and the porn dwarf really grate on me.For the first time in my life, I find myself 100% in agreement with a Villa fan. Oh, the shame of it :D
Sweet. I can hear Ben's pen signing that permanent contract now ;)
No one celebrated that goal. Well, gradually Blackpool did untill it went in on the replay when they all cheered then :D :D Comical.
No one celebrated that goal. Well, gradually Blackpool did untill it went in on the replay when they all cheered then :D :D Comical.
Come On Blackpool!
Gutted the spammers at up horrible football club, horrible owners, horrible fans and now we have to sit through another season of London media love in no matter how rubbish they play. The only positive I think is for big sam had a tough break at Blackburn and is managing in a league he should be in.
Gutted the spammers at up horrible football club, horrible owners, horrible fans and now we have to sit through another season of London media love in no matter how rubbish they play. The only positive I think is for big sam had a tough break at Blackburn and is managing in a league he should be in.
Wow, 18 of the 24 teams in the Championship next season have played in the Premier League.
It looks as if Premier League two is forming itself.
Is that counting Sheffield United or not? Because their play-off against Huddersfield is on Saturday.
There will also be 4 in League 1 (not counting the Blades) and 2 in League 2 (counting AFC Wimbledon) - one for the stats fans.
Nottingham Forrest are going to be taken over by a rich arab. Forrest have a good history but you would think they would go and buy a club in the Premier League like a Everton or even us. I think they need to know that spending big in the championship does not get you into the Premier League, ask leicester city.
The last person on earth I would want owning my club is a rich arab. We dont need that were doing ok as it is. Much rather see us grow slowly and witin our means.
Colin with a possible career in acting perhaps? The unveiling of Leeds new shirt.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAcc_3eEMtU&feature=player_embedded
Steve Cotterill sacked by Forest
Forest's new owners sack the manager who kept the team up in difficult circumstances last year which is par for the course for big money no clue owners http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18812339 next step rebranding :)
Steve Cotterill sacked by Forest
Forest fans are expecting so much, they are already boring me and its only been a day, they thing there going to be like Man City in years to come,They're a bit like Villa, still living off the success they had decades ago thinking they're still one of the best clubs in the country when now they're mediocre at best. Quite an arrogant bunch, I remember them being very loosely linked with Shorey the season before last (when Shorey was still a good player for us) and one of them coming out with "if we want Shorey, we'll get him".
Forest fans are expecting so much, they are already boring me and its only been a day, they thing there going to be like Man City in years to come,
No surprise really. A difficult job in difficult circumstances but he should have done a bit better with what he had there. The new owners are minted so they will want a big name to front up the club. Looks like Forest are heading back to the big time which to be fair is where they probably belong.Hows that work then. Up until the late 70's, no-one had heard of them. NO ONE belongs in the top flight you have to earn the right !!
Hows that work then. Up until the late 70's, no-one had heard of them. NO ONE belongs in the top flight you have to earn the right !!
Forest are now going to appoint and I quote an "iconic" manager. Glen Hoddle is being heavily linked with the job I rest my case.
When did Mick McCarthy become iconic? In talks over the Forest job.
Wolves have got a hold of the ball and actually played some nice stuff, but there looks to be no conviction up front. Leeds look dangerous every time they go forward.
I think that's more to do with how awful wolves are rather than Leeds being great IMO.
well it is barnsley! no disrespect lol, but they never strike me as that sort of club that are going to push the boat out or do anything exciting, just a stable, local family based south yorkshire club.
No its at St Andrews lol , a lot of blues were giving it big on how big they are over us in the summer, in the championship we always got decent crowds. Blues have a ground half empty.i know it is, im just saying barnsley are that sort of club, stable but not overly exciting.
i know it is, im just saying barnsley are that sort of club, stable but not overly exciting.
Oh my mistake, its happening to a lot of clubs when they get relegated. If you dont get promotion within 3 years you stagnate in the Championship and your best players get picked off without a fight. With Peace in charge were in safe hands and if the worse happens we have a plan.yeah exactly: milwall, hull, burnley etc are all in that boat.
Can't say I'm surprised. Seemed to have the hallmarks of a very good manager but after the superb run they went on they've never really recovered. Went on a slide season before last and that seems to have continued.
I would also say the clock is ticking for Dave Jones. Lost 7 of the lost 8, or 8 of the last 9, something silly like that. They've got some tough games coming up too with them facing Leeds United in a few weeks. Lost 1-0 at home to Hull at the weekend.
Whose bright idea was it to play Sheff Weds - Leeds on a Friday night....cant see it making a difference if it was sat 3pm or friday night?
cant see it making a difference if it was sat 3pm or friday night?
cant see it making a difference if it was sat 3pm or friday night?
they arent massive rivals though in all honesty, sheffield utd,manchester united and barnsley are probably bigger owing to geographical location?
But it's Leeds though, they have a reputation.i think though in this instance we cant generalize, it was just one idiotic fan who took it too far. mind you having said that warnock stated some of the chanting was awful.
they arent massive rivals though in all honesty, sheffield utd,manchester united and barnsley are probably bigger owing to geographical location?
i think though in this instance we cant generalize, it was just one idiotic fan who took it too far. mind you having said that warnock stated some of the chanting was awful.
Only one assaulted a player but more than one ran on the pitch when they scored. Also there was a few hundred at least chanting throughout the game. What the knobs fail to realise is that Dave Jones was cleared in court so if identified he can sue each and every one of them for slander I would imagine. Yet some still believe in freedom of speech !!
One idiotic fan who at 20 has already been banned from football grounds 3 times and was in court last week apparantely for breaching his latest ban which no doubt he breached again last night.
The high fives he got from others in the crowd after he cowardly ran back into hide says a lot about the fans.
It begs the question of what use is a football banning order? If the moron has already had two and he is still acquiring tickets and gaining admission? Wouldnt it be better to give him a suspended 5 year jail term if he is caught within half a mile of any football ground on match day.
I've never understood how a banning order works. The only way to police it is to ID everyone who buys a ticket. You can easily just buy a ticket on the gate and get in.I think anyone who as a banning order as to report to a local police station on the day of the game. A banning order can be as little as 1 or 2 months so this idot may have not been on a banning order.
It seems they only get caught when they cause trouble, like this prat. So it just defeats the object of a banning order surely?
I think anyone who as a banning order as to report to a local police station on the day of the game. A banning order can be as little as 1 or 2 months so this idot may have not been on a banning order.
Think its a poor move by Bolton, I know we appointed RDM when we went down but we wernt in 100 million debt. Bolton need to get back to the Premier League as soon as possible otherwise they will do a Sheffield United and slip into the third tier.They need someone with experiance, is Freedman any better than Coyle ? ??? backwards move for them I Think.
Paul Jewell has left his job as manager of Ipswich Town with the club bottom of the Championship.
Jewell, 48, has parted by mutual consent after Tuesday's loss to Derby - their 11th straight game without a win.
Former Wigan and Derby boss Jewell becomes the third manager to leave Portman Road during Marcus Evans's five-year period as Town owner.
"I could not have had any more support than I have from Marcus and [chief executive] Simon Clegg," he said.
"We all know that football is a results business, though, and I've never hidden from the fact that our results have not been good enough.
"It's been a privilege to be manager of such a fantastic football club and I want to thank the staff and the supporters for the backing."
Jewell's assistant, Chris Hutchings, has been placed in caretaker charge and will prepare the side for Saturday's visit of Sheffield Wednesday.
"Since he first walked through the door here, no-one has worked harder to bring success to this club than Paul Jewell," said Evans, who is also Town's chairman.
"Unfortunately his outstanding commitment has not been rewarded by results on the pitch and, having spoken with Paul at length, we feel it's best for him and the club if we go our separate ways.
"I'm bitterly disappointed - as is Paul - that it has not worked out as we had hoped when he became our manager 21 months ago and I would like to put on record my thanks for his services to the club and wish him every success in the future."
Jewell, who has won just one league game this season, succeeded Roy Keane in the job in January 2011.
He steered Ipswich away from relegation during that campaign, but followed that up with another season of struggle which eventually ended with a 15th-place finish.
Jewell was unable to bring in the players he wanted this summer and has instead relied heavily on the loan market, signing eight individuals on temporary deals.
But, with the club floundering at the wrong end of the table, it was looking increasingly unlikely that Jewell would be able to provide Evans with the promotion push he desperately wants and, with his contract set to expire at the end of the season, the pair have parted ways.
But his latest stint follows ill-fated periods at Derby County and Sheffield Wednesday.
Historically Evans has made his appointments swiftly and former West Ham and Charlton boss Alan Curbishley has been linked with the Portman Road job.
"The search for a new manager of this club is well under way and I am confident that we will find the right man to get the best out of the players, both individually and collectively, and lead the team to future success," said Clegg.
"The immediate focus is to ensure we secure three points on Saturday and in this regards I have asked Chris Hutchings to take over as caretaker manager."
Ipswich will hold a news conference at 15:00 BST, but an announcement on a new manager is not expected.
Crystal Palace have made an approach for Ian Holloway
Oliie signs for Palace.
Not everyones choice on here but he was my choice when Hodgson left.Strange move for him though, more like a sideways slighty back step.Maybe he fancies the bright lights not Blackpool lights
Wolves losing at Burnley :)
Mix in meltdown tonight.
just had a look on the Mix, there are in meltdown. Some wanting Solbakken out already :)
Ive completely missed something here. When did Holloway leave, and why, ill probably just google it but feel free to tell me anyway!
Ive completely missed something here. When did Holloway leave, and why, ill probably just google it but feel free to tell me anyway!
turns out some of them hate Appy because he played for preston many many years ago. ::)
not like one of ours (a certain born again Christian) left for our rivals and still played us, yet we still think he's a legend. Bloody seasiders have the brains of Tangerines.
EDIt: And they've already started taking the Mickey out of him, real confidence boost that is. >:(
Have you been in hibernation?! ;D
Mowbray's Middlesbrough doing well at the moment!
Mowbray is a good manager.
Chris Wood does it again. 85th minute goal to put Millwall up 1-0 against Leeds.Did Wood play in Europe for Blues, he could be doing the same for us next season if we get there and decide to use the sqaud ? 8)
Did Wood play in Europe for Blues, he could be doing the same for us next season if we get there and decide to use the sqaud ? 8)
2-0 Ebanks-Blake penalty
Pen given for a shirt-pull which looked outside the area when it started
1-2 Baptiste
Goodman is embarrassing to be honest.
As for the songs, nope its all anti-Albion :D
Fantastic miss by he likes cakes though.
If Blackpool weren't so sloppy and wasteful going forwards they would have won this with ease. Ince is incredibly greedy.
Dingle Don of course was convinced it was inside though. The man who continually described Wolves as "unlucky" throughout the demolition derby last season.
Dingle Don of course was convinced it was inside though.;D love it
If anything Wolves were lucky in that game.
We absolutely battered them in the first half and an inspirational Hennesssy and their one break made it 1-1 at half-time. The second half of course gave a much fairer reflection of the game.
1st Cardiff - 47pts
2nd Hull - 44pts
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3rd Crystal Palace - 43pts
4th Middlesbrough - 41pts
5th Leicester - 37pts
6th Watford - 37pts
22nd Barnsley - 21pts
23rd Bristol City - 19pts
24th Peterborough - 19pts
Crazy, just won 4 2 and they sack the manager, few points of the playoffs, footballs gone mad!!May have just fallen out with the o' driscoll, we don't know and probably will never find out
Henning Berg sacked after 10 games at Blackburn
Henning Berg sacked after 10 games at Blackburn
Another example of what is wrong with modern day football. Sean O'Driscoll who is in the process of getting Forest into the play offs with a good chance of promotion is sacked and the replacement is rumoured to be Roy Keane! I like O'Driscoll and he'll certainly get a job elsewhere.
Alex McLeish is the heavy favourite at the moment.
Replace the expansive football of O'Driscoll for the caveman football of McLeish.
What an appointment that would be. Two polar opposites.
Alex McLeish is the heavy favourite at the moment.
Keith Hill of Barnsley is the latest manager to be sacked.
They lost 3-1 at home to Blackburn.
Keith Hill of Barnsley is the latest manager to be sacked.3rd consecutive home loss, after losing to brum and sheffield wednesday at home as well. poor poor results
They lost 3-1 at home to Blackburn.
You have to ask what Blackburn Rovers has ever done as club to deserve this? Shebby Singh interview
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p013636y
I have seldom heard anything so utterly clueless
Chris Wood scores for Leicester after 6 minutes of his debut.
Blackburn have made an approach to Blackpool for Michael Appleton.
The Venkys must have a thing for baldies...
As Liam says, it's time for Appy to settle down and prove he has what it takes to do a stellar job as manager.
Mad as this move may seem at first, I recall an interview with Gamst-Pedersen after the sacking of Henning Berg. G-P was saying how the players wanted a tough, old school manager like Allardyce, someone who could breathe a bit of fire if/when needed. Maybe they should get Megson...
From a Radio Journalist for BBC Radio Sheffield:not looking good for the tykes. i take back what i said the other day, think they are destined for league one. little finances, all their players are off. theyve barely had a thing to shout about in the league this year either.
Paul Walker ?@Walkerpw
Got a feeling Barnsley may appoint from within now, maybe RonnienBranson and a Darren Moore/Hignett type combo. #Barnsleyfc
Stupid move by Appy. He will be sacked by Easter. Thank god he never became our manager. A lot of Blackpool fans are not even bothered.That's because he's a Preston player, some never gave him a chance in the first place (especially when they nicknamed him Voldemort) so Their apathy doesn't surprise me either. Also include to that a HUUUUUGE squad of players that weren't doing any training at the end of Holloway's tenure and I can see why it's taking time to switch it around.
I said we should never have sold Chris Wood Huge mistake, nice one Albion
Derek McInnes been sacked.
Talk of him being our manager at some point.
Derek McInnes been sacked.
Talk of him being our manager at some point.
Alex McLeish left Forest already !!
Alex McLeish left Forest already !!
He's on his way to the Villa! :DCan but hope m´lord ,can but hope! ;D ;D
Kevin Phillips just keeps going doesn't he! Scored the equaliser in tonight's match for Palace against Watford and you have to wonder, now at 39 years old and still scoring for fun wherever he goes, how long he could possibly play on until before retiring. It's well documented how he looks after his body and fitness, so who knows? All I know is that everytime I see him score I feel a pang of regret at having not seen him play for the Albion in the top flight. In my mind he's a footballing legend.
I agree regarding the top flight comment. I still believe our squad arguably weakened upon promotion that season under Mowbray as we lost Gera (Fulham), Clement (Injury/retirement) and Phillips (Birmingham) over the break, and even though we bought in the likes of Valero, Meite and Carson, those three original players were key to our success and the spine of the squad.
What made it worse was that Phillips went and scored lots for the Blues that season, then upon promotion (2 seasons after we released him) he scored a few crucial goals for the Blues which helped them no end. One time I remember he came on with 10 minutes left vs the Wolves and got 2, meaning Blues won 2-1...which made me question why he was allowed to go.
It's great to see him still being clinical. I reckon he's got at least another 2/3 years in the game, if he's still got the appetite and willingness to drop a few divisions too when the time is right.
Wolves 24% possesion at home to Leeds! :o
Wolves 1 Leeds 0 OG
That Sky reporter at the dingles game knows her stuff ::)
Noticed that the bottom three all won so Wolves have got away with it with that late equaliser. Out of the bottom three on goal difference.
Ipswich lost to Blackburn. Huddersfield drew with Cardiff and Sheffield Wednesday came from 2-0 down to draw with Derby 2-2.
Two points separate those four sides from 22nd place which is currently held by Barnsley.
Pressure on Tony Mowbray. Boro have lost 5 on the spin.
Cardiff 2-0.pfft, probably will get a draw now.
Correction, 2-1.
So who do people think will come up this season?
Cardiff look nailed on plus I think Hull City. Watford through the play off.
For selfish reasons I'd like Hull to come up as it'd be nice to be able to walk home from an away game!
Dawson scores again for Bolton! :o
For purely selfish reasons we ideally would see Peterborough stay up given our loan connection via David Oldfield , nothing better than sending our youngsters there as they have a small squad and limited facilities so the lads see the other side of things and get game time.
Agree Dexy although I wouldnt mind them staying up because they play much better football than the Dingles!Selling Boyd (although he wanted to go) maybe the last nail in the coffin , they don't defend well enough at times...a bit like us under Mowbray in all honesty Ruby.
yes I think that must be totally down to finance to be honest Dexy. Seen Boyd play a few times live. A little surprised he hasnt found his way into the PL. Mind you Id be a tad worried if Barry Fry was our Finance Director......................... ???His contract was up during the summer , Posh would sooner have let it run out but the player himself was desperate to go by all accounts.In fairness he had given them great service over 6 years much like Greening with us.
Come on Watford. Really hope they can get a win tonight.
Never be sure about anything in football but I could honestly see them on the end of a Baggies style drubbing against Watford. It seems clear that they dont have the quality to deal with teams that zip the ball about.
get in. no way was that a free kick though
Peterborough 1-0 up at Leeds! puts Wolves in the bottom three :D
barnsley beating brighton 1-0 :D
If you're truly devoted to the cause, you can listen to the game here (http://www.justin.tv/potty_usa3). I'm a Barnsley fan until the end of the season. ;)
i wouldnt say thats devotion more sad ;D only kidding Quakes :D
Penalty to Brighton. :(
SAVED! ;D
sounds like a great game!
Penalty to Brighton. :(
SAVED! ;D
Was it Luke Steele that saved the penalty?
Nice to see Albion players of present and old are doing their bit to continue the Staffordshire demise.
Barnsley 2 - 1 BrightonNICE!!!!
Full Time :)
Dingles into the bottom 2, looks like its a plan coming together! ;DAnd Saturday they face the bottom club at the custard bowl, could be bottom by 5 o'clock.
And Saturday they face the bottom club at the custard bowl, could be bottom by 5 o'clock.
Saunders will be in ladbrokes again :D
And Sako's just done his hamstring. Perfect timing!
Serves him right to be honest, he has now got a bad reputation and probably won't get a job in the Championship for a while. If I was him I would look round in League 2 for a job and try and gain a good reputation. What has he done as manager so far?. He needs to prove he is a good manager.
I get the feeling he is highly rated in football. Blackpool and Blackburn are prestigious jobs for a manager of his age and experience.
So far in his short career Appleton has unfortunately only distinguished himself with a remarkable series of picking the wrong clubs to work for...
I have limited sympathy for Appleton whatever his reasons for quitting Blackpool he surely knew what the Venkys were like and is now been at three clubs in the space of 12 months which does not look that impressive on what is a realtively short CV.
The person who I feel sorry for is Darren Moore who Appy no doubt persauded to take up the post of 1st team coach.
he should have stayed at Blackpool for a few seasons
Kevin Davies of Bolton told he can go 5 days before he qualifies for his testimonial.Discusting.Pretty Loyal to them
absolutly disgraceful! could of left when they went down but stayed! i wonder what Bolton fans have made of that :o
Not too happy listening to Talksport on way home tonight !
A major PR disaster for a club already struggling to retain it's fanbase.
You might remember this name from the past Aruna Dindane.Just signed for Palace
Kevin Davies of Bolton told he can go 5 days before he qualifies for his testimonial.Discusting.Pretty Loyal to them
In fairness he's been offered a testimonial if he wants it.
Davies is being linked strongly with a move to Sheffield Wednesday.
Looks like Ebanks-Blake may be out for a while with an ankle injury. Terrible, terrible shame.
So many chances not taken by Blues in this game.
Five points separates 10th from 22nd.
Jamie O'Hara sent off, gets better and better :D
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/22171365
another joke in the football circus, gives the relegated teams an unfair advantage and again bridges the gap between the lower Championship league teams and below, and the premier league. itll eventually come to the point where the teams in the league are 'locked in' i fear, takes away the value of the league >:(
dingles 1-0 >:(
Teams already get generous parachute payments. Certainly hasn't helped Wolves, Blackpool, Birmingham, Blackburn etc. etc.well theyve only made it more generous and imo it separates those 3 that go down from the rest of the league. it also rewards teams for failure which is absolutely not a good thing. what does it say for teams like qpr as well? who throw money here and there and everywhere, it keeps them going when they should learn from their overspending.
The Championship has been poor this season, Cardiff and Hull look like their coming up but they will have to spend a fortune to give their teams a fighting chance of staying up.
2 relegation places taken up right there.hopefully, never take anything for granted with the albion!
Charlton 1-0 up :D
Our equaliser - I didn't really care.
Charlton winner - I went mental :D
if wolves lose or draw against Burnley next week. I think its safe to say they're down :D
1-0 Burnley :D
2-0 :D
Barnsley winning 2-0 :D
Burnley down to 10 men :(
Kicking off at molineux!!!
Love it.
What's going on?
Pitch invasion, smashing dougout, apparently were trying to take the goals down too!
how fitting it is that a team with 'Albion' in it wearing blue and white send Wolves down. I am so so happy!!!
just hope they're boing boinging to rub it in ;D
Apparantely booing O'Hara & Johnson when they touch the ball
Kenny Jackett resigned at Millwall
Kenny Jackett resigned at Millwall
Good to see cheats don't win
Given the money Leicester have spent in trying to achieve promotion I very much expect Nigel Pearson to be sacked at some point over the next few days.
So twice in two weeks that's happened amazing, interesting to see what happens to Leicester been there or there about for a couple of seasons now. Really want Brighton to go through tomorrow night.
I feel sorry for those which weren't able to see that two minutes. It wasn't a penalty, it was a clear diving from Knockaert so it was justice that the penalty was saved but from there after is quite hard to put into words. I thought Brentford vs Doncaster was something special but this is just as good if not better.Yep, definitely. Until the penalty I wanted Leicester to win (due to their tenuously close regional link and Wood/Dyer) but afterwards I was disgusted by their cheating, so when Watford went and scored I really celebrated their goal.
I want Holloway back in the Premier League, where a manager of his quality deserves to be. Come on Eagles.
Blackburn set to appoint Gary Bowyer on a full time basis apparently.
Poor manager who is still living off his 3 month purple patch with Blackpool.
I'm not sure about that. He did a superb job at Blackpool. They played some fantastic attacking football in the Premier League and got relegated on the last day despite having a squad much inferior to other teams. He then got them to a play off final and lost out to West Ham despite outplaying them on the day. Holloway's a future England manager in my opinion.
You had me until that last line ;D+1 :))
Super Kev to get the winner :)
Congratulations to Crystal Palace. Great to see Super Kev score the penalty and Holloway tactically outclassed Zola.In what way? Both teams were as poor as each other for a large stretch of the game. The only real positives I saw in that CP side were Zaha, and Delaney, one of which isn't their player any more. Watford never turned up, simple as. An on form Watford this season could've destroyed the championship, but they've been way to inconsistent.
In what way? Both teams were as poor as each other for a large stretch of the game. The only real positives I saw in that CP side were Zaha, and Delaney, one of which isn't their player any more. Watford never turned up, simple as. An on form Watford this season could've destroyed the championship, but they've been way to inconsistent.
Still nice for SKP and Palace (although it is ANOTHER London club in the PL), be interesting to see how Holloway does this time round, if he falls into the same pitfalls as before or the ones QPR fell into last year with the money they'll receive... 'cause THAT team is not good enough for the PL over a whole season.
Palace didn't let Watford turn up, they stifled their attack and therefore Watford resorted to hoofing the ball which is unlike them this season. Holloway had a game plan and outwitted Zola. Glad to see such a great character in the Premier League again.You lost me there...
Poor manager who is still living off his 3 month purple patch with Blackpool.Taken two clubs into the premiership unlike our manager who inherited a decent team and hasn't really kicked on.
Taken two clubs into the premiership unlike our manager who inherited a decent team and hasn't really kicked on.Hasn't kicked on 8th in the league and record number of points gained. Any of the promoted teams would give everything for a season like that!
Taken two clubs into the premiership unlike our manager who inherited a decent team and hasn't really kicked on.
Taken two clubs into the premiership unlike our manager who inherited a decent team and hasn't really kicked on.
Taken two clubs into the premiership unlike our manager who inherited a decent team and hasn't really kicked on.
Taken two clubs into the premiership unlike our manager who inherited a decent team and hasn't really kicked on.YOU WHAT!!!!!! Talk sense mate.
Taken two clubs into the premiership unlike our manager who inherited a decent team and hasn't really kicked on.I'll repeat what everyone else has said, what do you want when you say "kicked on"? If he's inherited a team surely that team would have done as good if not worse than under their creator's (Hodgson's) management, yet have done better with a different style of play that Hodgson hated using.
You can't really fault Holloway for failing to keep Blackpool in the PL. It was a miracle he got them there in the first place and he almost kept them there against the odds.
I dont see Middlesbrough doing much this season dont think they have brought in many players this season been very quiet and there form in the second half of last season was relegation form. Anyone think Ipswich under Mick McCarthy could do something this season? Ipswich have brought in some decent players Chopra will score goals and they had quite a decent end to last season.
I can't call this one, just doing my betting forms for the 4 English Leagues, this is the one I can't really decide.
Wigan, QPR, Watford and Bolton are all the main contenders.
Might have a little look on here tomorrow before I go to the bookies just to see what everybody is thinking.
I went for Wigan to win the league at 12s. They've strengthened well and kept many of their core players - Maloney, McMannaman and the two Mc's in midfield. What I didn't realise when I placed my bet was that they were also competing in Europe this season!
The only downside I see to Wigan is Owen Coyle.
Im not sure how many Holt & MAF will get for them this season.... they are very short up front.
Leon Barnett scores 2 for Wigan on his debut. MAF so good he can't even make the starting XI.
Fortune came off the bench to set one of the goals up, he'll do well at Wigan, probably won't start to many as they played with Holt up top on his own today
I didn't know Wigan had brought Leon Barnett in looks a much better player now. I think Grant Holt will be a great signing for them and they do look a very strong outfit. Bolton have such a tough start to the season, Reading, Notts Forest, QPR, Blackburn, Leeds and Brighton are there next six matches.
Come on the glovers
Went to see Yeovil vs Blues yesterday-
great atmosphere, fantastic green and white barmy army, it felt much more like the real football, a bit like being at The Hawthorns in the 1970s !
Yeovil were really unlucky, played the ball around well, hit the post and the bar. Blues were physical, dirty and unsporting team, still the boring Birmingham that were in the Prem!
The ref should have red-carded at least one if not two of their players but he bottled it and was very poor.
Got a feeling Yeovil as a small club will suffer with big ref decisions going against them. I can remember when we were in the Championship we would get the ref's decisions against teams like Scunthorpe and Plymouth Argyle, then we got promoted to the Prem and it was like playing against 12 players!
Scott Carson saved a penalty today :o
I've tried that technique Carson uses and I've managed to save one or two :D
Coyle can have no complaints to McMannaman challenge. There seems a nasty under core to him.
He was the worst Albion keeper ever in my opinion
Birmingham really struggling at the moment, feel for them as they are hovering perilously over the relegation zone
Worrying times fro Birmingham, lost 4-0 at Leeds today. They did have plenty of chances in the second half though. They have lost eight of their first twelve games this season.
Did anyone see Harry Reddnapp getting hit on the side of the face by someone throwing a ball at him Yesterday?
Did anyone see Harry Reddnapp getting hit on the side of the face by someone throwing a ball at him Yesterday?
I saw the clip here:
Did anyone see Harry Reddnapp getting hit on the side of the face by someone throwing a ball at him Yesterday?
The way Stuart Pearce's odds dropped last night it wouldn't surprise me if he is the man they appoint.
Whats going on there Liam? always considered them one of the biggest clubs outside the Prem, why can't they get back? when teams like Norwich & Southampton have, strange one :-\
They are in a mess if we're being honest. Although being one of the biggest clubs outside the Premier League, their operating costs are higher than others and due to Hillsborough lacking in areas the club cannot make enough money from their ground. In addition to these costs, Milan Mandaric is openly looking to sell the club and has therefore over the last eight months or so given Dave Jones peanuts to work with. Their recruitment throughout the summer has been shoddy to say the least and game by game their performances have become worse.
They have recently took another loan against the ground just to cover the recent loan additions of Matty Fryatt and Connor Wickham. Both their loans and Roger Johnson's loan are due to finish soon. The club are relatively short of money and therefore have one of the lowest wage bills in the division which is unbelievable given the size and stature of the club. They have recently been forced to drop Chris Kirkland and rumour has it because they cannot afford to pay his fee bonus if he makes a certain amount of appearances - it can be for no other reason given his superb form over the last 16 months.
Norwich and Southampton both have greater foundations to build with - Norwich have a greater infrastructure in place whereas Southampton were boosted largely by the money of Marcus Liebher whereas Wednesday are still feeling the effects of 20 years of financial mismanagement.
Cheers mate, it does seem a very complex state of affairs, as you say maybe a lot more to it then meets the eye.
Its a shame. Wednesday are probably my favourite team outside the prem. Had a soft spot for them all the way back since the mid 90's because i liked the premier league sticker collection shiny of the badge! i was 8/9 years old!
Uwe Rosler new Wigan manager
Good win for Leicester at Leeds today.Will be nice to see another midlands premier league side should they do it!
lovely goal by Nugent after a Phillips faked it for him.
7 clear now
on a sidenote Kaspar Schmeicel is becoming a fine keeper
Will be nice to see another midlands premier league side should they do it!
I think Warnock would have been a good stop-gap manager for us instead of Mel. He certainly knows how to motivate players.
What has Mel done or shown to suggest he can turn our fortunes around? If we lose to Cardiff then the people calling for Mel's head will multiply. Warnock would kick a few backsides and replace those players who get in week in week out despite playing poorly.
Thats the most hilarious thing i have read in ages :D
Its got two championship games listed on sky sports 1 & 2 at 12.15 but they havent announced the games as of yet anywayI stand corrected then ;D
Have nothing against Blues so hope they can get out of it. The club is in such a state right now, relegation could start a domino effect.
Felt a bit gutted for them last night. Won 2 games at home all season; a donkey of a manager. Diabolical.Didn't someone on here say he would be a good appointment for us before Pepe. :o
Reading v burnley and forest v birghton is the two games on. Disapointed i wanted to watch the blues
2-0 bolton, and its goodnight vienna. Edit: 2-1, 10 mins to go. come on!
Really pleased for Blues.Isn't it Ibe (not said as eye-be as the commentator kept calling him ) from Liverpool? Macheda's from United.
Was willing them to score.
That Abe on loan from Man Utd looks a great player!
Chuffed for Blues, thought they were dead and buried at 2-0, thoroughly deserved a point apparently. Relegation could have been disastrous for them.Yes they did, the Bolton goal was completely against the run of play - and previously Zigic had a goal disallowed wrongly. They then got countered on and the keeper made a howler but inbetween and after they had some really good chances and played decently.
Isn't it Ibe (not said as eye-be as the commentator kept calling him ) from Liverpool? Macheda's from United.
Leicester have 80 million to spend next season
The likely winner of Derby v QPR is a really tough one to predict.
From an Albion supporter perspective I'd prefer Derby.
Another Midland team in the Prem, a decent awayday and not too expensive or too far to travel.
Obviously any club in London is a decent day out as well, but I'm not too bothered for having media darling Harry Redknapp back in the same league as us.
My best mates a Derby fan. Most of me hopes they come up for him, but theres that little bit of me that always hates them for beating us in the play-off final. Most horrible game I've ever been to. S**t weather, s**t ground, s**t view, s**t result, s**t performance................OVERALL...........S**T, >:(
My best mates a Derby fan. Most of me hopes they come up for him, but theres that little bit of me that always hates them for beating us in the play-off final. Most horrible game I've ever been to. S**t weather, s**t ground, s**t view, s**t result, s**t performance................OVERALL...........S**T, >:(
Derby robbed like they robbed us. Go get mclaren peaceWe lost because we weren't good enough, Derby lost because of luck.
George Thorne was excellent today. I will certainly be happy to see him in our squad next season. I dont know how I feel on this one, never liked Harry Rednapp but I felt totally awful seven years ago in the rain when Derby beat us.
We lost because we weren't good enough, Derby lost because of luck.
We lost because we weren't good enough, Derby lost because of luck.
I'm not sure you can say they lost because of "luck", they couldn't score, and then made a terrible mistake in defence. Nothing unlucky about that.
horrible horrible result :(
QPR are another london side with an irresponsible and inappropriate owner plus a tap up merchant lying manager....
What is not to hate about them being promoted....
If you want to know why the soul of football is dying.... Read QPR
Sheffield Wednesday are the next club to have been bought by some billionaire. They have been brought by Azerbaijani businessman Hafiz Mammadov. He also owns the French club Lens and has recently got them promoted from the French second division to the Ligue 1. He's apparently paid in the region of £40million to purchase the club from Milan Mandaric.
Should we go get Mandaric now then
No - Mandaric does not have the funds to run a Premier League club - or if he does he certainly isn't willing to throw them around. After he had turned around SWFC into a championship club, his transfer policy became reliant on loans and freebies (usually players recovering from injuries). He's been looking to sell for a while and has finally achieved that aim.
I believe he's going to stay on as chairman - he just won't fund the club. Once he is finished with SWFC he will finish with football altogether as his wife is not very well and he has commitments elsewhere.
I don't think they guy has the capability to run a Premier League club let alone fund one.
Why? He's had largely successful tenures at the football clubs he has owned and has always sold them onto owners who could take the club further than he could.
I think the PL is a different ball game now compared to when Pompey were in it. At Leicester and Sheffield Wednesday the clubs hardly prospered under him either.
Should we go get Mandaric now then
He has lost 2/3rds of his wealth (Commercial property collapse).
Leeds are losing 1-0 already.
Not even managed ten minutes into Dave Hockaday's reign. :D
Watch Leeds for an insight into our season imo.Not sure I follow the link between Leeds and ourselves. Cellino sounds about as dodgy and volatile a chairman as you can get - bit like having Di Canio as chairman of your club....but worse.
Not sure I follow the link between Leeds and ourselves. Cellino sounds about as dodgy and volatile a chairman as you can get - bit like having Di Canio as chairman of your club....but worse.
Norwich aint very good are they. Anyone think the Wolves would beat us at the moment
Norwich aint very good are they. Anyone think the Wolves would beat us at the momentThere wouldn't be much in it.
Watch Leeds for an insight into our season imo.
For a club with such a colourful owner they're not doing too bad to be honest.
Won their Yorkshire Derby with Huddersfield today. Two points outside the play-offs
Really pleased that the Blues managed a win, I bet Mick was happy to get one over his old club. Derby away next for Wolves.
Derby v Wolves, the game where I want both teams to lose heavily! :D :-\I want to derby to win ;)
I want to derby to win ;)
I want to derby to win ;)x 3 ( my mate is a Derby fan .......... and he agrees they robbed us in the play-off )
Wolves 0 Forest 2 something to cheer us up
Blues winning 1-0 at Rotherham, Bournemouth winning again.
Thought we could have a thread to keep an eye on how Steve Clarke is doing at Reading.
Lost 1-0 to Watford at the weekend, heard they played well and was unlucky to lose.
Just seen that Cardiff have asked the Football league if they can change back to Blue in time for tomorrows game against Fulham. Good to see
How are Reading going under Clarke?
Just seen that Cardiff have asked the Football league if they can change back to Blue in time for tomorrows game against Fulham. Good to see
"I also wish to incorporate elements representative of my culture and beliefs, which I hope are respected"
This could be interesting. The bluebird will be prominent but it will be flying over Budda and a ladyboy. ;D
Reading are so dull- soulless ground, boring badge, fans don't make any noise. Hope they don't come back up too soon, so many more deserving teams in the champo on fans alone. Leeds, blues etc.
How did this go under the radar ;D :o
http://www.wiganlatics.co.uk/news/article/ridgewell-wigan-loan-portland-timbers-mls-2185771.aspx
Also, look at that shocking beard
bluenoses beat dingles on pens in play off final,Now that would be a day to remember. :D
I freakin love it !!!
bluenoses beat dingles on pens in play off final,
I freakin love it !!!
Ipswich v Derby is a tasty one today.was like watching paint dry mate, ;D :P
Up steps Paul Robinson to take the final penalty, if he scores Blues will be promoted to the Premier League.
He shoots and scores he runs towards the Wolves fans removing his shirt and underneath is a vest with the words 'Boing Boing' written on.
;D
Surprised many are so fond of Small Heath. Checking their forums recently, they seem to have developed a bit of hostility for "little old Albion".
Next Saturday will be a lot tastier than people seem to realise.Jacko for once you are correct ;D
Next Saturday will be a lot tastier than people seem to realise.
Quite a few of us have being saying exactly that throughout this thread.
Post match comments could prove to be interesting.
Jammy wolves 2 goals in the last 10 >:( you just know they are coming back up to try and get 1 up on us...
Steve Clarke's Reading win 2-0 against Sheff Wed.I'd take him back over what we currently have.
I'd take him back over what we currently have.
Should never have been sacked.I think his only failing was trying to bring his own players in like Anelka, and asking for extra funds for Anichebe. If he hadn't had a poor transfer market (which was also partly McDonough's fault), he wouldn't have been sacked.
He got sacked after a shocking what 10/11 months in charge and to be honest was probably lucky to last that long. Lets see how he does over the next 12 months or so.
Steve Clarke's Reading win 2-0 against Sheff Wed.
I wouldn't say shocking 10/11 months when we were 9th in the league after the Chelsea game with possible more points if the referee hadn't fell for the Ramires dive. Poor Summer recruitment didn't help things and he certainly would have delivered more points than Pepe Mel.
We won 4 matches in 2013.
Just checked and we won 8 matches in 2013. After Clarke was sacked we won 1 in 12 games and have sacked two head coaches since.
Dougie Frredman appointed new Nottingham Forest manager
Special Agent Kusack doing ok so far. Concedes on 20 seconds :)
wolves win 4-1 and only 4 points off the playoffs
Thought I'd try and find out how Dorrans got on yesterday so went to the Norwich board. Goodness me, what a mess, it doesn't get said enough, kudos to our admins.
mate who is a canary STH reckons Dorrans is ok (grudgingly) but gets played wide left. Keeps saying he doesn't look like a winger !!
if they get promoted, he doubts they will keep him !
Thats because he is not a winger he is an attacking midfielder
poor lad cant catch a break, goes somewhere where if played in the right position will tear apart that division and instead gets played wide left where he is useless.
Have I just seen Richard Chaplow score for Ipswich?
8 points currently separate the top eight teams... :o
Five of them set to fail after plugging away all season long...horrible, cruel division to get out of and one of THE main reasons I wouldn't want us to go back down there...depite the "excitement" it brings at this time of year!
George Thorne went off injured tonight, 29 minutes in - I wonder if his career is over already?
It's a shame...I know he left and said some bad words but he seems an alright lad and just wanted to play football, must be gutting to get so many injuries. Still, we did well to get the money we did in hindsight, we played Jeremy!
Wigan have sacked Malky Makay after 138 days
i want brentford and bournemouth to come up, the 2 clubs with least resources, I suspect next season could be a long hard slog.
i want brentford and bournemouth to come up, the 2 clubs with least resources, I suspect next season could be a long hard slog.Bournemouth do have some money behind them these days though....they made multiple bids for Gray from the Blues in the Jan window. They will probably be in a better position to strengthen than Burnley were.
Unless Malkey has done something to blot his copybook again it seems bizarre timing....no chance for anyone new to save them. The new Chairman has basically decided his grand father made a mistake 128 days ago.
The FA as usual have taken a hell of a time to rule on the racism text front....maybe they are now getting rid before any publicity storms hit on that front.
Bournemouth do have some money behind them these days though....they made multiple bids for Gray from the Blues in the Jan window. They will probably be in a better position to strengthen than Burnley were.yes, but less resources than Norwich, Boro, Derby I would think
Dorrans just hit the bar from a pen for Norwich at Leeds, still 0-0
Steve Clarke playing no strikers. ::)
Millwall beating Wigan tonight has given them a squeak of staying up, they are only 4 points behind Rotherham, both with 4 games to play. Millwall are away at Wolves last day of the season! Imagine that one if Millwall need a win to stay up! :o Even worse if the dingles need the points for the playoffs too.
I predict a riot.
Wolves 0-1 Ipswich 20mins
HT Wolves 1-0 Ipswich
Possession 58% - 42%
Dingles losing mate.
Rotherham deducted 3 points, thats good because Milwall will be trying harder to beat the inbreds
Watford have been promoted to the Premier League
Well done Watford, but does that mean Deeney might no longer be available if he was a target for us I wonder?
Delighted to see Bournemouth basically promoted.
They play some lovely football and I love a good rags to riches story
I didn't realise they have a russian investor, I imagine he isn't an Abramovic but is he worth enough to put MAJOR investment in?
I don't think they have spent massive amounts in fees
They spent £3million + on Callum Wilson but that was largely because they sold Lewis Grabban for similar.
They spent another £3million before on the lad called Rantie.
Not massive amounts really
I didn't realise they have a russian investor, I imagine he isn't an Abramovic but is he worth enough to put MAJOR investment in?
The investor was the guy who pretty much kept the club in business in league 2 isnt he? Not sure how much money he has but they havent spent loads 'yet'.
They put a decent bid in for Gray from blues through January though, I think theyll spend some money to strengthen.
To be fair, I'd love to see Millwall go down.
To be fair, I'd love to see Millwall go down.
Agree. Brentford deserve to be where they are and I'd far rather see them next season than the odious Derby fans (their arrogance before the game at Wembley for the play off final in 2007 put them up there alongside Wolves and Villa in my opinion). Unfortunately I can't see Reading winning which would seal the last spot for the Rams
Milwall get 1 back...
PIG mistake.
Congratulations to Bournemouth! Poor Watford must be sick.There's apparently a pitch invasion out there so I doubt they mind all that much.
When George Thorne made his move to Derby, I predicted before the season started they wouldnt make the top 6, they blew their chance last year as they were the surprise package.Thorne became their playmaker last season - think they've missed him big time with the style they want to play ... missed one or two others as well.
However when they were blitzing everyone in sight (i saw the game v Wolves when they won 5 or 6) i thought i had got it wrong!
To go from top of the league to out the playoffs in about 6 weeks or 2 months takes some doing! Hope Brentford win the play offs (providing they make it!)
Thorne became their playmaker last season - think they've missed him big time with the style they want to play ... missed one or two others as well.
Congratulations to Bournemouth! Poor Watford must be sick.
Their fans are a bunch of cap-ends.
Their keeper went up for a corner in stoppage time, Wednesday broke and with the goal open, all the Watford fans started storming the pitch forcing the referee to blow for full time. That denied Wednesday the victory.
Their fans are a bunch of cap-ends.
Their keeper went up for a corner in stoppage time, Wednesday broke and with the goal open, all the Watford fans started storming the pitch forcing the referee to blow for full time. That denied Wednesday the victory.
Glad Bournemouth won the league. They're excellent to watch.I can see Brentford beating Boro. So the craziest situation could actually happen where Brentford get to the premier league and Warburton is leaving regardless of what happens.
Derby are bottle-jobs. Nothing left to be said there. Delighted they cocked it up. Hope Brentford are the side which wins the play-offs.
And if that happened. Old Arry would turn up at Brentford.Aren't Bournemouth only just recovering from his last involvement at the club?
If not, I can see him turning up at Bournemouth in some capacity.
I reckon 'arry has been found out. :D
MK Dons promoted to the Championship. Don't like this club and cannot wish them well.
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Did I just see Dean Laurence Kiely on the Norwich City bench?
He's been their keeper coach for a little while now.
Middlesbrough win 3-0 on the night against Brentford and 5-1 on aggregate
Hopefully Ipswich can join them and then win at Wembley, as Norwich and Boro will probably be more competitive in the PL, and we all know about Mad Mick's record there :P
Wolves goalkeeper Aaron McCarey fails drugs test.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/32770690 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/32770690)
2-0 Norwich :'( Cracking goal Redmond
Getting out of the Championship will be a nightmare next season, so many strong sides!It's just a crazy league...from the three that went down, only Norwich returned and Fulham nearly got relegated. After signing McCormack (who actually did quite well for them) they surprisingly struggled.
I think Bristol City may surprise a few for the forthcoming season. Could really be any of about ten clubs that could go up. If Burnley lose Ings I think it will be tough for them to come straight back up. I reckon Hull might be the favorites to go straight back up out of three.Could be right about Bristol City - they have ambitious owners these days...not billionaires but seem prepared to invest.
The Championship is always so hard to predict and is in truth far more exciting than the prem. I fear the Dingles will be in with a decent shout next season
Watford 5 managers in a year and promotion,madness.
I think Warburton's a pretty switched on bloke and he's also a positive personality who is likely to well liked by his players. Will be interesting to watch his progress and see where he ends up...Fulham ? Sheff Utd ? Cardiff ?
Paul Clement Derbys new manager
Paul Clement Derbys new manager
Leeds will be worth a punt for promo next season IMO.
Hull will do a cardiff and achieve naff all.
Leeds will be top half. I don't think Rosler is particularly all that and any hope of consistency at that football club goes out the window with their owner. Several of their better players are also courting interest from top Premier League clubs so whether they remain at Elland Road remains to be seen. My prediction is that Rosler will be gone by Christmas.
BBC football page has well and truly spit its dummy out of the pram after losing the rights to show highlights. Not even a mention of the Championship, league 1 or league 2 on their home page. It was like looking for a needle in a haystack trying to find the Brighton v Forest score!
showing the highlights at midnight doesnt work in their favour. the new time of 9pm on channel 5 is much more ideal
anyone else watching this football league highlights show on Channel 5?
One of the worst things I have ever watched! It is literally amateur hour.
Even the BBC show was much better and that is saying something!
dingles 2-0 up at home to QPR, Afobe and McDonald
Sheff Wed 0-0 at home to Reading
His value has soared he has just scored against Wolves!
2 goals against W#lves tonight, playing for a move to us :)
I we get £23m for Saido i would in vest it all in Phillips and Austin after tonight!Two for Phillips and one for Austin. I assume we will have some senior scouts at the game.
Matty Phillips looks more and more enticing with every passing week of this transfer window. He has had a hand in all three goals for QPR tonight.
Good result for blues but another draw for derby :D.
Reading beat Ipswich 5-1! :o
They are now in the play offs, Steve Clarke doing a very good job.
He is our most successful manager in terms of league position for three decades and if a few very dodgy refereeing decisions didn't go against him he wouldn't have been sacked when he was in my opinion.
Very poor quality i thought tonight, Poor touches, Weak crosses sloppy in possession.
As much as it pleases me as I dislike Derby I can't see them being anymore than late play off positions at best.
Rotherham without a manager after they part company with Steve Evans. I hear Alan Irvine is one of the favourites for the job, he would be a very good appointment for them.
Relegated by Christmas if he takes the job there.
Birmingham City doing rather well, up to second, I imagine some of the bigger squads will come to the fore latter in the season, but Blues have a good play off chance.
Birmingham City doing rather well, up to second, I imagine some of the bigger squads will come to the fore latter in the season, but Blues have a good play off chance.
Could you imagine the noise from the seal sanctuary if Villa go down and Blues got promoted. I'm sure we can loan them a few players in January.
Could you imagine the noise from the seal sanctuary if Villa go down and Blues got promoted. I'm sure we can loan them a few players in January.
I'd prefer Blues to stay down if the Vile were relegated.Well done for deliberately forgetting something else that they would remind us of. ;)
Then they could bang on about how much they are looking forward to the re enactment of their 'real' derby game.
I would then look forward to Blues doing the double over them in the League before knocking them out of the League Cup.
I suppose they'd then tell Blue's that the only games which matter are those contested in the Premier League with their oldest Midland adversaries 'Olbyon'. Then when we batter the Vile in the FA Cup Final, I would eagerly await their renewed claims that we don't matter to them anyway, and they'd be happier with promotion the following season.
And so on, and on and on........SOTV.
Tossers.
I'd prefer Blues to stay down if the Vile were relegated.
Then they could bang on about how much they are looking forward to the re enactment of their 'real' derby game.
Well done for deliberately forgetting something else that they would remind us of. ;)
Wo1ve5 are losing at home.
OK..I asked about Afobe, earlier..Will TP use him?That depends on how good a full back he is! :-\
Its now 2-0 Brentford
Happened to be listening on BBC WM and the crowd started booing after the goal :D
It is funny to watch......they may struggle to ever get back into the Premier League
Whatever happens, I hope the club will NOT be selling or loaning them any of our players from whatever level.
Can't remember his name, but there was this forward that went to them from us the once.
Or maybe it's just my mind playing tricks with me, could even be total bullpap.
Looks like Steve Clarke is on his way to Fulham. :o
Did he get the sack from Reading?No sack.....I assume he sees it as a club with more money and more chance of getting out of the division.
No surprise to hear the Reading fans were happy for him to go.
No surprise to hear the Reading fans were happy for him to go.
both richer than us, that Fulham owner is richer than their previous Al Fayed. Mega
I do miss this league :) but the epl is the place to be £££Yup.
Brian Mcdermott going back to Reading replacing Clarke.
NEVER go back! 8)
Bolton close to going into admin which will lead to a 12 point deduction which would result in more or less relegation.
Sad to see. Good luck to them.
14k at St Andrews. Less than half full! Not the best day for a game I'll admit but that attendance is terrible.All because of TV!!! Never mind the fans!
About time Brighton came up.
Who does everyone hope gets promoted this year ?
Paul Clement sacked by Derby
Neil Redfern sacked by Rotherham
busy day
Pretty ruthless by the Derby board, not allowed to have a slump these days in most places.
I know Derby are desperate to get promoted but it wasn't Clement's fault that they've messed up the last couple of years.
It's entirely his fault this season surely.It still seems a bit harsh but I don't know the full goings on. They did look very static in the game against Burnley recently. There's no time to take stock of a slump and adjust things these days.
It still seems a bit harsh but I don't know the full goings on. They did look very static in the game against Burnley recently. There's no time to take stock of a slump and adjust things these days.
It seems the change from the elite of La Liga to the Championship slog was too much for a new manager.
Pretty ruthless by the Derby board, not allowed to have a slump these days in most places.
I know Derby are desperate to get promoted but it wasn't Clement's fault that they've messed up the last couple of years.
A good point for Blackburn yesterday drawing 1-1 away to Boro.
These converted assistants hardly ever seem to work do they?
Paisley?
Paisley?
Odemwonga now plying his trade with Bristol City
Whats with the Middlesborough manager walking out on the team
Training ground row apparently, Boro have spent a lot to get promoted, a bit of a gamble.
Making way for Steve McClaren.
Possibility if Tone were to leave us in the summer anybody
I think there's more to it than just a bust up.
I heard a comment with regard to the Jordan Rhodes signing on Talk Sport either Saturday or yesterday.
Apparently he was a Steve Gibson signing and the boss was not too pleased as he just didn't want him.
Wonder if this could be true.
If so there may have been other unwanted signings, with rumblings and disquiet between players and boss only bubbling to the sufrace now.
Whats with the Middlesborough manager walking out on the team
gone back to Boro and lennon leaves bolton
It would be nice to see Sheffield Wednesday back in the Premier League.
It would be nice to see Sheffield Wednesday back in the Premier League.
Would be nice to see us sign a few of their players too - Lees, Bannan, Lee and Forestieri are superb footballers all of whom would improve our squad.
That aside, I'll be routing for Wednesday to come up alongside Burnley and Middlesbrough.
Its going to be a big league next season massive clubs european cup winners the lot
Is that Barry Bannan who couldn't cut it in the Prem with Palace and Villa? Unless he's become a better footballer in the last couple of years I can't honestly see him improving our squad.
Is that Barry Bannan who couldn't cut it in the Prem with Palace and Villa? Unless he's become a better footballer in the last couple of years I can't honestly see him improving our squad.
Very tidy footballer and much better in possession than anything we've got. He's been an absolute steal for Wednesday this year - doesn't get enough goals and probably doesn't carry a big enough presence for a Pulis side unfortunately.
Think Hull will urine the Play-offs. What a title race though. Unbelievable this year and all the better for mid table Dingles.
I fancy Brighton to beat Hull in the final.
Brighton will narrowly beat Wednesday and likewise with Hull against Derby.
Personally, would rather Wednesday or Derby come up as the away-day is far better in my opinion.
Shock, horror :D
Cause you a few issues then, which end do you go in ? who do you shout for ? what shirt do you wear ? at least an half an half scarf would be welcomed by someone :o
Burnley promoted. Again.
Boro V Brighton should be a nervy affair. Boro only need a point Brighton have to win.
Automatically one of the favourites to go down next season
Who, us or them?
Watched most of the fizzy pop league this season teams coming up, nothing to worry us folks ;)
Like Bournemouth, Watford and Norwich you mean?
Like Bournemouth, Watford and Norwich you mean?
Haven't seen it mentioned elsewhere but just spotted that George Thorne suffered a double leg break against Ipswich.It's in the Ex-Players thread.
How unlucky is that lad ?
if brighton fail to get up I would definitely enquire about knockaert, that's about 5 times I've watched him this season and he always causes problems for the opposition full backs. he's better than what we've got and wouldn't cost a fortune.
Not seen much of him, I remember him being pretty hit and miss for Leicester. Lets face it most Championship wingers are probably better than what we have.he's ripping sheff wed a new one tonight in the play offs. watched him against Cardiff and he was superb maybe just a bit too attack minded for pulis.
I was hoping for a trip to the seaside but at least we are the only Albion still in the greedy premier
It's looking good for me though! Either a short trip across the city or a train ride to Sheffield!
I said to my mates before the final day, that whoever finishes third in the championship (Brighton / Burnley / Middlesbrough) wouldn't make it through the play-offs. I felt they would be too deflated to raise their game again.
Would prefer to see Wednesday beat Hull / Derby now.
I really hope Hull go up - gives me the chance to go back to visit people and catch Albion in the process!
I said to my mates before the final day, that whoever finishes third in the championship (Brighton / Burnley / Middlesbrough) wouldn't make it through the play-offs. I felt they would be too deflated to raise their game again.Felt a tad sorry for Brighton over the 2 legs - they certainly drew the short straw in the first game losing 4 players injured & playing with 10 for a good portion of the second half - if they'd have got a 2nd yesterday when they were going at it hammer & tongs I think they'd have won! However, well played to Wednesday who rode the storm before Brighton burnt themselves out!
Would prefer to see Wednesday beat Hull / Derby now.
Just read that Hull failed to sell all of their tickets for the playoff final so Sheffield Wednesday were given some more, I know Hull have been to Wembley a few times in recent years but surely you should be selling out a game of this magnitude relatively easily.
Hull are a small club. Big place but not much footballing tradition.
True, rugby league has always been bigger up here.
There was a fair bit of anger at the way they failed to get automatic promotion having been in a strong position for 3/4 of the season. I think a lot of their fans thought they'd get beat so didn't bother going.
They'll have their extra 5000 Premier league fans next season though...they always do.
Just read that Hull failed to sell all of their tickets for the playoff final so Sheffield Wednesday were given some more, I know Hull have been to Wembley a few times in recent years but surely you should be selling out a game of this magnitude relatively easily.
There is actually an organised protest movement against the Alam family who own the club, which involves turning their backs on the club and not lining their pockets. Once they are gone, the fans will return.From what I gather though, Allam has done quite a lot for Hull who were in big debt before he took over in 2010 and has since steadied them financially?
It probably hurts to take a stand against your own club, especially when you miss out on big days like that, but sometimes it's what you have to do, rather than prop up a regime or management you don't agree with.
From what I gather though, Allam has done quite a lot for Hull who were in big debt before he took over in 2010 and has since steadied them financially?
The goings on at Leeds, shocking really. Steve Evans sacked now and he didnt do to bad.47% win rate with Leeds
Garry Monk replacing him...
mods & rockers can you change this thread title please :)
Is there a highlights show anymore?
Its on channel 5 now mate
Dean Saunders and Ian Holloway...Sky Sports really splashing out on the top pundits this year ;D
Izzy Brown, remember him ::), apparently off to Rotherham for the season
Nice to see it's working out so well for him ;D
Moved for the money and the ability to say he plays for Chelsea....
worst move he could have made in my honest, he would be a regular first team player for us by now I reckon
Still a bit early to write him off. He is still 6 months younger than Beranhino was when he made his Debut for us.
any scores yet
if he stays free from injury Murray will hit 25 goals this season for Brighton.
Agreed a very good player in that division. Bednar-esque except he can head a ball.nearly as good as saido. :'(
The Huddersfield equaliser...Took it well, got to buy a ticket to win the lottery, got to expect the error :D ;D :D ;D
https://vine.co/v/5hE2XtvxXnO
They really are the gift that keeps on giving.
Villa 2-1 Gestede ::)Nightmare...I'm at work sat next to a Vile fan!! >:(
this football is so bad, we should have no trouble next season ;)
Newcastle looking good for a return to the PL..early days I know but they are head and shoulders above the rest.
Newcastle looking good for a return to the PL..early days I know but they are head and shoulders above the rest.
Replicating what they done a few years back. Kept the squad together and an excellent Manager.
They'll walk the league, wouldn't be surprised if they went past the 100 point mark againTrouble is they've got two of the biggest clubs in Europe to play next: Wo1ve5 at home then The Vile away ::) ::) ::)
One nil Toon ;D- OG.
Well looks like Nigel Pearson has been up to his tricks again. The Derby statement says suspended due to his "behaviour" and he is not expected to continue as managerHmm, think he will have shot his bolt with this one. Anything else on top of the James McArthur episode and he's certainly damaged goods. There'll be a few vacancies going by the time the Telegraph has finished....then it's sacking season November, December.
1-0 villa :-[
Gary Gardner, ain't he a blues fan ?
1-1 I missed it, went to the toilet :D
David Davis, that will go down well with one of my mates who supports Villa. Davis goes out with his niece :D
1-0 villa :-[
Gary Gardner, ain't he a blues fan ?
Watching them against Derby on Sky and I don't think its a exaggeration to say Derby really should be 5 or 6 up instead of just the 2 like they are, been great to watch them struggle badly. Took one of their Portuguese players off after about half an hour :D
B & H Albion v VileOh no!!
Agbonlahor's first start of the season.
Also Pocognoli on the bench.
Oh no!!
0-1
I see Shelvey has been charged with racism. Isn't that also a criminal offence? I never understand charges like this with football, if I said something racist in my job I'd get the sack!
some brilliant passing and forward play from leeds who look to attack constantly even though they are leading 1.0. fantastic attitude.
its pepe mel football. ;)
Leeds were better than Villa by miles the equaliser was so un-deserved. They've bought some real cart horses have Villa. Gestede, Jedinak, Elphick, McCormack to name a few. They won't go up with that team.fingers crossed.
I've been impressed with some of the lesser lights such as Huddersfield, Sheffield Wed, Fulham. Add in Brighton, Newcastle, Leeds, Derby and it's easy to see them failing to make the cut.
fingers crossed.
Well done Cardiff & what on earth has happened to the Blues?
Well done Cardiff & what on earth has happened to the Blues?
... getting all they deserve for getting rid of Rowett.This big time!
Blues have cocked up big timeyep self inflicted, stupid decision made by people who haven't been there longer than 5 minutes.
Its what happens when you get owners more interested in fame that football
They are getting all they deserve though
leeds v Derby tonight, should be a good game. Come on Leedsafter watching Leeds at villa they played some good stuff, if its as entertaining as that match it could be a cracker.
Vile and the wilfs, two sides that will still be plying their trade in the championship again next season:D
Bree playing for Barnsley against Leeds live on sky, want to see if Houriane is all he's cracked up to be.
Getting better.And the vile fans were crowing about how good Lansbury is,knows where the goal is though lol
Vile losing 2-0 ;D
A great chance for Alan, hope he takes it. Norwich are in good hands now. Give him the job and he'll get them into the play offs next year.
A great chance for Alan, hope he takes it. Norwich are in good hands now. Give him the job and he'll get them into the play offs next year.
A great chance for Alan, hope he takes it. Norwich are in good hands now. Give him the job and he'll get them into the play offs next year.
with the sacking of McClaren I wonder if Rowett will get offered the job?
Good to see Alan having a positive effect at Norwich, they beat Barnsley 2-0 at the weekend and only five points off the play offs.
looks like after a few years of play off failure Brighton are coming up.
another new and fun away day for us
looked at their team sheet for last match.....No Poco even on bench. But had forgotten PIG was still keeper there - thats a LONG career!! has he been there since he left Man U?
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I thought he played for Blues???
Always thought PIG was overrated by our fans. Carson was better for example.
Poco has been injured for Brighton last couple of games. Fit again now. Has played well when I've seen him.
Wow Norwich 6-1 up at half time against Reading. :o
Well done Alan, not so bad after all.
Blues have a relegation 6 pointer against Burton on Monday lose that and they really are in trouble.
Just watched the Dingles lose at home.. poor is an understatement. ..
Another Albion in the Prem!Zola has resigned
While we're on Albion, that Burton result will have spooked the Bluenoses. Can Zola survive? Teribble form since they discarded Rowett.
Brighton pretty much promoted now
Are they actually mathematically promoted?. Huddersfield currently winning 0-1.
Derby have now equalised Butterfield.
Are they actually mathematically promoted?. Huddersfield currently winning 0-1.
Was hoping Brighton wouldn't get promoted, as when national media refer to "Albion" , it probably won't mean us.saying Brighton is quicker and more specific though, much like how we tend to be referred to as West Brom in equal measure to Albion. the media will be trained on this.
saying Brighton is quicker and more specific though, much like how we tend to be referred to as West Brom in equal measure to Albion. the media will be trained on this.
Norwich winning against the champions, if they have any sense they will make Irvine permanent manager.
Norwich winning against the champions, if they have any sense they will make Irvine permanent manager.Doesn't want the job , don't forget they also lost 3-1 at home to Fulham playing against 10 men for 45 mins too!
Norwich beating Brighton 2-0. 5 attempts none on target :o. According to the Beeb website Brighton's goalie Stockdale has scored 2 own goals ???
I'm hoping it's either Sheff Wed or Huddersfield that come through the play offs as they are both on a direct train line from Hull! Leeds would be okay too for the same reason but they have to get into the top 6 first. I hope it's neither Reading nor Fulham.Thinking of SELF, SELF, SELF again. Doh ! :P
Ideally Sheffield Wednesday or Leeds for me. The league would be a better place for having them there. Not Reading though, they are such a pointless team.
Thinking of SELF, SELF, SELF again. Doh ! :P
Monk set to be sacked by Leeds for failing to win promotion.hmm almost inevitable I guess....he's unbelievably lasted a season under Cellino which takes some doing.
I've just bought a new 50 inch T V to watch the Championship playoffs.
Nice telly, but no Leeds. :P
Have Brighton blown winning the Championship title?. Now only a point ahead of Newcastle with a game to go.
Really? just better than 50 percent win rate at a relegated PL club? He's done the bare minimum required at a club like Norwich imo.
Come on Jacko they were poor under Alex Neill. They had some great wins including beating Brighton and thrashing Reading 7-1.You're wasting your breath. Alan Irvine was never as bad as some like to believe (and I'm not suggesting he was brilliant either) and was partly the victim of previous appointments and decisions. The Pepe Mel treatment, the Astle business, the transfer policy and other stuff (not discounting the results) were party to his non acceptance and "failure" at the Hawthorns. Interestingly, it led to the appointment of Tony Pulis, who Jacko appears to love :-*, an appointment that even the minority would probably not have accepted had it followed Pepe Mel.
You're wasting your breath. Alan Irvine was never as bad as some like to believe (and I'm not suggesting he was brilliant either) and was partly the victim of previous appointments and decisions. The Pepe Mel treatment, the Astle business, the transfer policy and other stuff (not discounting the results) were party to his non acceptance and "failure" at the Hawthorns. Interestingly, it led to the appointment of Tony Pulis, who Jacko appears to love :-*, an appointment that even the minority would probably not have accepted had it followed Pepe Mel.
(His win % ratio at Norwich is better than Potato Head's just down the road from us who have the "biggest side outside the Premiership" ;D)
SOTV
Come on Jacko they were poor under Alex Neill. They had some great wins including beating Brighton and thrashing Reading 7-1.
Reading v Huddersfield in the play off final then. Really hope Huddersfield get through.Agree it's been a long time since I went up there.
Something I noticed of the top 6 teams in the Championship only one is managed by a British/Irish coach. Even the Championship seems to cottoned on to the idea that if you want to get ahead get anything but a British coach from the Tim Sherwood school of tactical excellence.
Villa - Bruce
Blues - Redknapp
Albion - Pulis
Wolves - Lambert
If only the West Midlands was so quick on the uptake!
Villa - GardeTwo of those were in losing positions after failed British managers (Mel-Clarke & Garde-Sherwood). I fail to see them as the same as Zola and Zenga.
Blues - Zola
Albion - Mel
Wolves - Zenga
;)
Two of those were in losing positions after failed British managers (Mel-Clarke & Garde-Sherwood). I fail to see them as the same as Zola and Zenga.
Who in turn had replaced two British managers doing decent enough jobs on limited resources.exactly, hence why Mel and Garde arent the same as them. They were both signed by naive owners as shiny foreign names rather than having a reputable record. While Mel and Garde were unfortunate firefighters. There are some good managers managers out there who I think can do a job for any of the midland teams. someone like, say, Stefano Pioli. Who is currently available and is very Pulis like, would walk the championship and be a decent Prem manager I reckon as long as he's supported. Or Peter Hyballa, who is effectively Klopp's and Pochettino's managerial love child.
exactly, hence why Mel and Garde arent the same as them. They were both signed by naive owners as shiny foreign names rather than having a reputable record. While Mel and Garde were unfortunate firefighters. There are some good managers managers out there who I think can do a job for any of the midland teams. someone like, say, Stefano Pioli. Who is currently available and is very Pulis like, would walk the championship and be a decent Prem manager I reckon as long as he's supported. Or Peter Hyballa, who is effectively Klopp's and Pochettino's managerial love child.
Interesting.what can I Say? I have an eye for managers. :D
Pioli's reportedly being lined up for the Watford job, as is Leonid Slutsky.
http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/stefano-pioli-and-leonid-slutsky-on-watford-shortlist-after-walter-mazzarri-is-sacked-a3542401.html (http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/stefano-pioli-and-leonid-slutsky-on-watford-shortlist-after-walter-mazzarri-is-sacked-a3542401.html)
what can I Say? I have an eye for managers. :D
Absolutely, that or you read the article when it came out yesterday :P ;) ;) .genuinely didn't know he was linked to Watford.
Play off final today. Who's going to win?
Play off final today. Who's going to win?
How far into the coverage of this game, does anyone think, before it's announced that this game is worth a squillion pounds to the winner? I give it 5 minutes. :D
Nice to see a new team in the Premier League!
Izzy Brown is back in the Premier League
Izzy Brown is back in the Premier LeagueHe's back at Chelsea for now of course. He didn't look Chelsea quality today...agreeing with Black Pearl he looks a bit laid back and not especially quick.
Well that was a dull game. Two pretty poor teams. Gone to extra time with about 3 shots on target the entire game
Robertson and maguire look to be leaving Hull City...but for who?
http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11714/10914310/hull-city-receive-bids-for-harry-maguire-and-andrew-robertson
Would take Maguire, not sure Robertson is good enough defensively.
I see Norwich lost to Sunderland 3-1. Should have given Alan Irvine the job full time, he did a cracking job with them at the end of last season. Proved a lot of the doubters wrong. Beating Reading 7-1 was a fantastic win. Irvine would have got them at least in the play off places if kept on.Not really. If the results he had with them during this "cracking job" were replicated over a whole season, they wouldn't have made it into the play offs. You are a broken record
Not really. If the results he had with them during this "cracking job" were replicated over a whole season, they wouldn't have made it into the play offs. You are a broken record
Harry Redknap sounds very down this morning on the radio. does he have issues up there
They're signing the excellent Jota from Brentford - he shouldn't sound down.
Has 'Arry gave an interview out his car window yet?
Derby beating Hull 3-0. Seb Larsson misses a penalty for Hull.It's 5-0 now
like the look of Ola Aina the Hull RB. on loan atm from Chelsea.
like the look of Ola Aina the Hull RB. on loan atm from Chelsea.
Sheffield United 4 Fulham 5, sounds a great game tonight between 2 teams with managers I wish we could be a bit more adventurous and forward thinking about and possibly take a chance on. Hat-tricks from both Leon Clarke for Sheff Utd and Ryan Sessegnon for Fulham.
Strange statistic from the game is that there was only 12 shots on target in the match, 6 from either side, leading to 9 goals. Talk about clinical finishing or possibly s***e goalkeeping!
Both sides were deeply unimpressive. Interesting to see empty seats in the Wolves end, tut tut.but but,we are wolves ay we?the best team in England after man citeh ;D
Middlesbrough apparently in talks with Pulis after sacking Monk due to concerns over style of play... ;D
Wolves Villa and Derby to go up?
Derby always seem to choke in the play-offs (a part from when they beat us of course :'( )
I think Wolves and Villa will get the automatic spots, after that I don't know. It's annoying to think if we stayed up we could have 2 derby games next season, instead it looks like we won't have any.
They probably won’t go up so we’ll be playing them twice next year :P
Forgot we'd already been relegated.
that dingle leads starting to shrink, is the bottle job about to repeat itself.
Interesting to see Callum McMannaman's celebration today.
Scored a 96th minute equaliser against Boro and ran up to the Boro dugout with his hand cupped to his ear whilst shouting abuse at Pulis!
Brilliant response from TP in the after match interviews to be fair.
he's ripped McManaman there to be fair ;DNot as much as pulis ripped us by paying nearly £5M for him and letting him go for jack
Pulis said: "He was disappointed when he was at West Brom I never picked him.Bitterness all round then. Pathetic from both parties.
"He went to Sheffield Wednesday and they didn't pick him and he is here and they don't pick him! I understand the boy is very frustrated."
For those who missed it. Brutal.
He's bringing them up. Looking at the table they may even get 2nd.Should Sheff utd win their game in hand Boro will be 3 points out of the play off places..,.,...... Exactly the same as they were when Gary Monk was sacked !!!
So
If it's the play off final
Villa vs TP
Who?
ROM Toss reporting Cotterill is toast at bluesYeah it's been on BBC also. They played well against Cardiff in his first game but have reverted to type since.
Yeah it's been on BBC also. They played well against Cardiff in his first game but have reverted to type since.Garry monk odds on for blues and seemingly tapped up whilst cotterill was still boss.for my money if so I think we have missed one of our tricks with monk
Garry monk odds on for blues and seemingly tapped up whilst cotterill was still boss.for my money if so I think we have missed one of our tricks with monk
Perennial failure who plays nice football ie sideways and backwards,
So
If it's the play off final
Villa vs TP
Who?
Blues have confirmed the appointment of Garry Monk
It would be disappointing not to go up automatically.Oh I do hope so
Oh I do hope so
Cardiff
Fulham
Wolves
Derby
You lot
Boro
Pullis beat wolves
Weimann puts you lot out 👍
We stop up, and blues stay up on goal difference
Cardiff now only 3 points back. Villa 7. Fulham 8.
Middlesbrough now clear in 6th.
:o
If the wolves lose tomorrow I’ll be hoping the villa do them Saturday 100%!
Never ever do i want the seals to win even at the expense of the dingles. the dingles will finish top 8 in the premier league next season
Not a hope in hell... I will have £5 with you on that one.
They might not win the Championship the way Cardiff and Fulham are playing......
deal
This league is so poor. The players need loads of touches to even get it under. Very huff and puff. Still nil nil. No chances for either side.wolves have had 12 chances according to sky and scored twice. as much as I dislike them they're a decent team
wolves have had 12 chances according to sky and scored twice. as much as I dislike them they're a decent team
Finished 0-3As ever, in our hands really. We know we are capable of getting auto next season if we keep a reasonable squad and get players like sam field and leko where they can be. But, we need to prove it in the remaining fixtures we are a competitive team, because i really fear for us if we dont even get another point this season.
Standard is awful. Much more positive about next year now.
Finished 0-3
Standard is awful. Much more positive about next year now.
I said exactly the same thing watching the match. Leeds are 13th, absolutely middle of the road in that division.
Any decent manager should have us in the top two as a minimum.
Which what squad? It certainly isn’t going to be the team we have now. There will be a mass exodus.
Fingers crossed eh?
Amen, this bunch of charlatons coudnt handle the Champonship. The more out the better.
Which what squad? It certainly isn’t going to be the team we have now. There will be a mass exodus.
If we kept the full squad we'd get over a hundred points.
If we kept the full squad we'd get over a hundred points.
Don't please. You sound like one of them from aston
Vile had no idea what they were getting into. I do. We've been 2nd tier or below for the majority of my time supporting us. Had a watch last night and not a great deal has changed since last time we were down there. This current Wolves team certainly isn't as good as Newcastle or we were last time round.
The team we have now is mid table Championship like JP said.
We have an ageing squad, no attacking midfield, no creativity, no quality out wide, and 3 strikers who if they tried to shoot themselves in the head would miss 9 times out of 10
This made me loff. Its true though. And when you say 'current squad' Jacko do you include Greg and Sturridge in that?
I wish I had Jacko's optimism.
There is nobody within this football club who will prepare us adequately for next season
The squad is also heavily lopsided and requires major surgery.
If anything, we will do what Villa did - a year to rebuild before mounting a challenge.
Or there is Sunderland...
Next time there's a Championship game on TV give it a watch will cheer you up no end, that said, I know you follow Wednesday so you must already know how bad it is!! :D
I wish I had Jacko's optimism.I agree - you just can't judge the standard of the championship on the odd game now and then. It's a slog and all teams will look rubbish at some stage. If we do well next year, there will need to be a lot of ugly wins involved (when other people will be thinking the standard is rubbish). Think we are being a bit naïve if we are confidently thinking we are going to be in a position for automatic next year. There'll need to be an inspired managerial appointment and inspired recruitment for that to happen.
There is nobody within this football club who will prepare us adequately for next season
The squad is also heavily lopsided and requires major surgery.
If anything, we will do what Villa did - a year to rebuild before mounting a challenge.
Or there is Sunderland...
3-1 Villa.Whys it bottle job on? Villa winning is the worst outcome, it means its even less likely we will play them both next year.
Bottle Job: ON.
Whys it bottle job on? Villa winning is the worst outcome, it means its even less likely we will play them both next year.
Whys it bottle job on? Villa winning is the worst outcome, it means its even less likely we will play them both next year.
Yeah but that wont happen, they arent going to drop points to the likes of reading at home, theyve been way too strong this year.
Wolves won't go up if they drop to 3rd which would be SUPERB. I'm not remotely bothered about Villa.
Yeah but that wont happen, they arent going to drop points to the likes of reading at home, theyve been way too strong this year.
Next time there's a Championship game on TV give it a watch will cheer you up no end, that said, I know you follow Wednesday so you must already know how bad it is!! :D
Finished 2 all, absolutely dreadful Fulham defending for both QPR goals.Sounds like our level.
McCarthy leaving Ipswich at the end of the season.....they wouldn't do that to us ...would they ?????..😐he’s been leaving for ages, I’m sure paper talk had him linked when Pardew was appointed.
Dingles beat Boro with 9 men...looks like they are going up..😐
I'd forgotten Terry was even still playing. Has he really been that good?No he's just a big name and a London media darling.
No he's just a big name and a London media darling.team of the season, yet was injured for a big portion of it !
The wonder manager that is Tony Pulis in charge of one of the leagues most expensively assembled squads has managed to surrender 6th place to a Milwall side assembled on a shoestring.with tough fixtures to come as well, 3 teams directly above or below yet to play. Milwall Derby and Bristol City.
with tough fixtures to come as well, 3 teams directly above or below yet to play. Milwall Derby and Bristol City.
Strange how Jacko has suddenly gone quiet on the issue...
On 26th December they appointed him, they were 7th on 38 points. The Villa were a place behind them on the same points, Fulham were four places and three points behind them...Millwall were 16th on 27 points.
Cut to today's date, Fulham are 2nd and 15 points ahead of them, the Villa are 4th and 10 points ahead of them and Millwall are 6th, two points clear of them.
What a manager eh, Jacko. What a manager.
Been watching the Champions League.
So what you're saying is he's taken on someone else's squad. Taken them up into 6th. Relinquished that position tonight so taking them back to the same position they were in when he arrived but the season doesn't finish in April does it? Funny how you've not commented on Boro for weeks. A bit Legend-esque how quickly you've jumped on this ;)
the season finished in February when he was our manager.😝
Been watching the Champions League.
So what you're saying is he's taken on someone else's squad. Taken them up into 6th. Relinquished that position tonight so taking them back to the same position they were in when he arrived but the season doesn't finish in April does it? Funny how you've not commented on Boro for weeks. A bit Legend-esque how quickly you've jumped on this ;)
Fulham Bottled it drew so Wolves will go up if They Win Tonight
Operation lose 5 on the bounce begins tonight.
Come on Derby.
Fulham won...Thought they drew but I was tired yesterday And Was Falling in and out of Sleep
They've only lost 6 all season, come on.
Plus, if Wolves do bottle it - Villa go up. Which is worse, miles worse.
It's definitely not worse. I'm not bothered about Vile and more importantly they aren't bothered about us.
Also,
Fulham and Cardiff top 2. ;D
They've only lost 6 all season, come on.Agree I don't care about the dingle's it's the vile I hate and detest it's an age thing I think, we older ones hate villa and with the younger ones its wolves! And the vile really do hate us!!
Plus, if Wolves do bottle it - Villa go up. Which is worse, miles worse.
It 100% definitely is worse & as for the rest of the post, you have quite clearly never lived in Erdington or surrounding area's, they despise us, not something you'd experience too much in your Merseyside bubble :-*
In 14/15 season villa played 19 home league games and there were only 6 of them that had a lower attendance than the one against us. I just don’t see where it comes from that Villa massively care about us.
Generalisation but....
Anecdotal evidence from very small sample areas such as Erdington by the sounds of it. I went to all 3 games including the cup match and didn't have any concern wandering round before during or after. Can't say the same about trips to Molineux (bit of anecdotal evidence of my own)
I live in Rowley Regis and it’s still Albion/Wolves and Villa fans hate Blues. When Albion Wolves play the whole place is buzzing.
Only got to look at the attendances to see what game matters more to Villa. Notmally a sell out against Blues and about 34k and 10,000 empty seats against us except for the quarter final but that would have sold out whoever they played.
Anecdotal evidence from very small sample areas such as Erdington by the sounds of it. I went to all 3 games including the cup match and didn't have any concern wandering round before during or after. Can't say the same about trips to Molineux (bit of anecdotal evidence of my own)
Anecdotal evidence from very small sample areas such as Erdington by the sounds of it. I went to all 3 games including the cup match and didn't have any concern wandering round before during or after. Can't say the same about trips to Molineux (bit of anecdotal evidence of my own)
Go on then, I'll bite ;D .Whereabouts in wednesbury were you from as I have Seen Wolves Fans in Wednesbury I Say I hate both Equally Wolves because they claim the Black Country there's when it isn't say they've got bigger History than us and see us as Small. I hate Villa because there local to Albion knocked us out of The FA Cup and Generally just hate them.
Anecdotal evidence from somebody who lives somewhere up near where they speak with spit gurgling around the throat as loosely alluded to by your good self ;) . Ask many Albion supporters from Smethwick, Oldbury, Handsworth, Great Barr, Hamstead and Northfield too. The list goes on, even though many Albion in Northfield are also concerned with the Blues. These are not small sample areas individually and especially not when combined.
I concede the atmosphere can be poor at ours when we host the Vile, but equally from my perspective I don't think it's too hot for the Dings either. Sadly that's more to do with large sections of the Hawthorns having resembled a morgue for years. However, I do know what both fixtures occasionally lack in volume, they make up for in tension for whomever is more inclined one way or the other.
By the way I've been to a Vile/Blues derby at the seal pen. I can assure you the general atmosphere be it in terms of volume AND tension was shockingly poor. But then Stern Johns hilarious late equaliser aside, the fixture means next to nothing to me. As for you having not noticed anything untoward following the 'double' games though you must walk around in some kind of a bubble, especially before/during/after the Cup game.
I have every respect for those who can't stand those of an orange six fingered persuasion over the pink and blue pyjama clan. They can undoubtedly be a pain and far more so for those who live cheek by jowl with the inbred dads for cousins. But I'd prefer it if you didn't belittle the rivalry as felt by others, particularly when you clearly have no understanding of it from our perspective.
And for the record there really are a great many Vilers listed in the areas above who really do care. They just know their dismissive, arrogant denial narks many. I'm with Oldbury on this one though as I loathe them enough for the both of us. But ask yourself why many Vilers take such a stance. For many the answer is obvious, indoctrination from a young age as experienced by yourself with a Wednesbury raised dad. Cheek by jowl also plays a huge part again as mentioned before.
But the Vile are also play ground bullies regarding Blues, a local team who've only beaten Villa on 33 occasions since 1887. They've beaten us more times than they have Small Heath Alliance, but then we've played each other sixty one times more often. Swings, roundabouts, whys and wherefores. But as always, each to their own.
And always, always SOTV 8) .
Go on then, I'll bite ;D .
Anecdotal evidence from somebody who lives somewhere up near where they speak with spit gurgling around the throat as loosely alluded to by your good self ;) . Ask many Albion supporters from Smethwick, Oldbury, Handsworth, Great Barr, Hamstead and Northfield too. The list goes on, even though many Albion in Northfield are also concerned with the Blues. These are not small sample areas individually and especially not when combined.
I concede the atmosphere can be poor at ours when we host the Vile, but equally from my perspective I don't think it's too hot for the Dings either. Sadly that's more to do with large sections of the Hawthorns having resembled a morgue for years. However, I do know what both fixtures occasionally lack in volume, they make up for in tension for whomever is more inclined one way or the other.
By the way I've been to a Vile/Blues derby at the seal pen. I can assure you the general atmosphere be it in terms of volume AND tension was shockingly poor. But then Stern Johns hilarious late equaliser aside, the fixture means next to nothing to me. As for you having not noticed anything untoward following the 'double' games though you must walk around in some kind of a bubble, especially before/during/after the Cup game.
I have every respect for those who can't stand those of an orange six fingered persuasion over the pink and blue pyjama clan. They can undoubtedly be a pain and far more so for those who live cheek by jowl with the inbred dads for cousins. But I'd prefer it if you didn't belittle the rivalry as felt by others, particularly when you clearly have no understanding of it from our perspective.
And for the record there really are a great many Vilers listed in the areas above who really do care. They just know their dismissive, arrogant denial narks many. I'm with Oldbury on this one though as I loathe them enough for the both of us. But ask yourself why many Vilers take such a stance. For many the answer is obvious, indoctrination from a young age as experienced by yourself with a Wednesbury raised dad. Cheek by jowl also plays a huge part again as mentioned before.
But the Vile are also play ground bullies regarding Blues, a local team who've only beaten Villa on 33 occasions since 1887. They've beaten us more times than they have Small Heath Alliance, but then we've played each other sixty one times more often. Swings, roundabouts, whys and wherefores. But as always, each to their own.
And always, always SOTV 8) .
Not sure if mentioned elsewhere but think sunday could be a bad day for Albion!
If Wolves beat Blues they are up, then a few hours later we play Man United, if results go against us saturday and we lose to United we get relegated officially i think! All of these things are very very feasible!
There will be some celebrations on sunday in Wolvo! To be fair we have got to take the p**s taking and banter coming our way, give or take the odd year we have been superior to them for the last 15 years, even the ten years prior to that when they were money bags and we were peasants we were still on a level with them so now its our turn to take the flak!
I thought they may bottle it but fair play to them, they have beat two top 6 rivals the last couple of games, gone up playing some good football (Neves goal last night was amazing) and i think if they go up trying to play football, be positive and enjoy themselves and are realistic with their intial aims (ie - not top 4 first season) and accept they probably are going to make the numbers up they should enjoy it.
This time next season, they could be pushing on in the premier league and we could be nowhere near, or we may be swapping places again and normal service is resumed.........
I can't be the only one thinking "who cares" about the Dingles?
Absolutely. They're a decent side, and about as important to us as Walsall.
That's not a bite mate. That's Jaws taking out the hull of a boat ;D
Nice post Dan!
Anybody else feel that if Fulham seal (no pun intended!) 2nd place then the Vilers will probably get through via the playoffs? Need Cardiff to get 2nd place and hope Fulham win the playoffs!My thoughts exactly.
As Dan fairly said to me: But I'd prefer it if you didn't belittle the rivalry as felt by others, particularly when you clearly have no understanding of it from our perspective.
As Dan fairly said to me: But I'd prefer it if you didn't belittle the rivalry as felt by others, particularly when you clearly have no understanding of it from our perspective.
I grew up in Cannock, Dingle stronghold and even got spat at once or twice at school for wearing an Albion coat. I dislike the Dingles but the pants wetting in here about them going up is a bit embarrassing. Yeah it's rubbish but honestly, I can't say I care too much.
I grew up in Cannock, Dingle stronghold and even got spat at once or twice at school for wearing an Albion coat. I dislike the Dingles but the pants wetting in here about them going up is a bit embarrassing. Yeah it's rubbish but honestly, I can't say I care too much.I often had to go to Cannock to get a coach to the game during the 70’s/80’s. The dogheads were never a problem, but I had more than enough problems with vilers. Only when I and pals were outnumbered mind. They were a different animal when the numbers were fairer. Add that to other unprovoked problems with them home and away, it’s no surprise I have a dislike for them. Even the friendlier ones turn obnoxious after a pint. And they’re all ugly. And stupid. And stink.
I often had to go to Cannock to get a coach to the game during the 70’s/80’s. The dogheads were never a problem, but I had more than enough problems with vilers. Only when I and pals were outnumbered mind. They were a different animal when the numbers were fairer. Add that to other unprovoked problems with them home and away, it’s no surprise I have a dislike for them. Even the friendlier ones turn obnoxious after a pint. And they’re all ugly. And stupid. And stink.
As I stated earlier, playground bullies.SOTV 8)
Fuggin' w@nkers.
Oh, and SOTV 8) .
Sunderland relegated to league 1 , big stadium, in debt.
Rodwell on 70k a week
They have the likes of O'Shea, Kone, cattermole, oviedo, Mcgeady on decent money too
So Colin is back in the Premier League ::)Ay, can't abear the bloke but it sure is impressive!
1-0 Derby...
I know it's only 'half time' but Fulham don't appear to have read the script.I know what you mean. Maybe Cardiff would’ve been better. Looks like we’ll have to rely on you know who.
They're supposed to batter the Vile in the Play Off Final.
This is not a good start to the weekend :-X .
I know what you mean. Maybe Cardiff would’ve been better. Looks like we’ll have to rely on you know who.
I think Pulis will defeat Villa over 2 legs, and I think he's the best poised to get promotion. He usually had the better of Bruce over the years so it wouldn't surprise me.
I still think Fulham can beat Derby too, if not for poor finishing they could have easily drew 1-1 or won 1-2 for instance.
I found that iFollow provide live streaming for Championship game.
Anyone know can we watch Albion's games by iFollow?
I thought he could have beaten them at least once over two games back in March 2015.This is my concern.
He failed miserably.
I want Villa to win the play-off semi-final - I don't want Pulis to ever have any success again as a manager, so that his nauseating anti-football can be permanently consigned to the dustbin of history as soon as possible.
I also don't want too many local derbies in the Championship, as I would see them potentially getting in the way of a promotion push, so I'm ambivalent about whether or not Villa ultimately get promoted.
I despise the Vile far more than Tony Pulis and wish them the very worst of times at all times.
Come on TP, get your white trainers on and dazzle the fuggers with your innovative and riveting set piece routines.
SOTV 8) .
I hope Pulis goes up. As a Welsh manager, and as a Welshman myself I will always want managers to do well who are Welsh. That and the fact it'll condemn Villa to another season in The Championship and put further strain on them and it's more reason to hope Boro turn them over.I hate villa more than i hate wolves but i still hope they turn boro over, because i hate Pulis more than both of them!!
Pulis' brand of football may well be from the draconian as has been said on here but more often than not it yields results. Whilst he's not a manager like Klopp or Wagner and is far from 'likeable' one thing he can certainly be classed as is honest.
We should embrace derbies, as surely they're the experiences we want as fans?
I thought he could have beaten them at least once over two games back in March 2015.
He failed miserably.
I hope Pulis goes up. As a Welsh manager, and as a Welshman myself I will always want managers to do well who are Welsh. That and the fact it'll condemn Villa to another season in The Championship and put further strain on them and it's more reason to hope Boro turn them over.
Pulis' brand of football may well be from the draconian as has been said on here but more often than not it yields results. Whilst he's not a manager like Klopp or Wagner and is far from 'likeable' one thing he can certainly be classed as is honest.
We should embrace derbies, as surely they're the experiences we want as fans?
Completely different circumstances though.
Whilst he's not a manager like Klopp or Wagner and is far from 'likeable' one thing he can certainly be classed as is honest.I don't think that's how the judge described him! :)
Boro have been garbage first halfSounds similar to when he was with us....
let’s hope they improve dramatically after half timeNope - I hope they get worse still!
Sounds similar to when he was with us....
Nope - I hope they get worse still!
I dislike Pulis. I hate Vile.I despise Pulis, I hate Wolves and I dislike Villa, but this is all getting rather yah boo sucks! ;D
If anyone needs a reminder as to why we were right to sack Pulis, this is it. Dire
1-0 down so he subs a striker for a striker. The bloke is ridiculous
I despise Pulis, I hate Wolves and I dislike Villa, but this is all getting rather yah boo sucks! ;D
This has been an awful watch
Exactly what we witnessed under Pulis the dinosaur
Yep, despite everything this season I am still so glad we got shot of him. Jacko’s boy makes for some awful fare
Pulis teams don’t have any idea what to do when they are given possession of the ball.
62% 16 shots 2 on target no goals. Did we ever get that possession under Pulis in the Prem?
No we didn’t, Pulis teams are not set up to have greater possession than the opponent.
Once Vile scored they looked comfortable sitting deep in the knowledge Boro would never put them under any real threat.
Nothing other to say about the above than this really :-X ;) ........Beats me the only one thing I want for the vile and low life supporters and that's to suffer every day of every week the only exception if the team they are playing need to lose to do us a favour.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJY8jJkDoMY
I find this an interesting position, without any shadow of a doubt if you changed the words welsh to English there would be some comments about racism
I find this an interesting position, without any shadow of a doubt if you changed the words welsh to English there would be some comments about racism
Hope Boro fail to make it for the good of football in this country. You can win the odd game playing Pulisbal, but the more successful he gets, the more other managers may be tempted to play his kind of tactics. That has to be a bad thing.
Bit of a shame if it means Villa being promoted, mainly as we'll miss out on another couple of local derbies, with the extra buzz about the place and the extra revenue they bring in.
But if Boro don't go up we'll already have two guaranteed defeats before a ball has been kicked. Maybe 4 if the Stoke curse has been reimposed post-Pulis...
Come on Boro ffs
Boro have not got a clue in possession
From BBC Sport:
"So we're in to the final 15 minutes of normal time and Middlesbrough are still yet to have a shot on target. In fact, they've only had two in the entire tie.
They must start putting on some serious pressure soon, surely?"
That sounds familiar. ;D
Boro eliminated? Lies! Jacko said they were winning the playoff.
Boro eliminated? Lies! Jacko said they were winning the playoff.
Another vintage performance served up by Pulis...
He needs to be banned from the game for crimes against football. Any Boro fan who thinks it will get any better than that are as deluded as Jacko.
I haven't verified it but I've seen it said that, when asked by the media about needing to score twice tonight, Pulis replied that that they only needed one and then it would be penalties. I'm delighted that his bottomless pit of negativity proved to be unsuccessful in the play-offs.
:-*
Sadly means we will start next season with minus 6 points...
Completely different circumstances though.
Sadly I disagree. Bruce has been in many play offs before in his career and will have too much know how for Fulham.
Another job for "one of the boys" :-X
http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11711/11377659/steve-mcclaren-appointed-qpr-manager-on-two-year-deal (http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11711/11377659/steve-mcclaren-appointed-qpr-manager-on-two-year-deal)
"Steve McClaren has been confirmed as the new manager of QPR on a two-year contract.
The former England boss replaces Ian Holloway at Loftus Road after he was sacked by the Championship side last week.
McClaren's appointment sees him return to work in English football for the first time since he was sacked by Derby in March last year.
He has previously worked for the west London club, having been on the coaching staff under Harry Redknapp in 2013 before leaving that autumn for his first spell at Pride Park.
McClaren has most recently been working for Israeli team Maccabi Tel Aviv in a consultancy role but left them just after Christmas.
He will now be tasked with getting QPR back into the Premier League for the first time since their relegation in the summer of 2015. They finished 16th in the second tier last term.
More to follow…"
I can't say I've ever dipped into the QPR message boards before, but I imagine that it's probably not one of the happiest places to be right now!
Gary Rowett confirmed as Stoke manager on three year deal
strange one this, a bit more money maybe. Darby are bigger than stoke.Set up is better, maybe a fell out with the owner
Log long way to go yet
Tom Cairney and Jack Grealish are really good footballers . Can't we sign them?
I have no tv or radio coverage. Relying on text commentary. Reminds of the teletext days. I can’t believe how wound up I’m getting.
Hope those post gave you a flavour of the gameThanks. I’ve just peeled myself off the ceiling. I wonder how many vile fans are watching the CL final? It must bring back such happy memories. If any of them can remember that far back. SOTV. :P
Big gamble going there, as Derby are looking to cut costs to avoid punishments under FFP.
I have been worried about how we're going to do, but it might be quite a tight division with so many teams trying to cut back. Might be a low points total for promotion / play offs, like when we won the Championship and Stoke came second.
It is a gamble in one way but I bet Frank gets first dibs on loan players from Chelsea and West Ham.Perfect timing to keep his old mate Terry in employment!
Derby are like us they have an ageing squad that needs freshening up.
I think he'll do ok there
Perfect timing to keep his old mate Terry in employment!
I think it’s really good news, any fresh blood in the management pool is good news.
Leeds have sacked Paul Heckingbottom after what 3 months
“Paul Heckingbottom: Leeds United sack head coach after less than four monthsâ€
Another one bites the dust, Darren is close to being the longest serving manager in the Championship now :D
Source: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/44332089
Ex Albion player Graham Potter is the new Swansea City manager after the club this afternoon confirmed his appointment on a three-year deal.
Potter, 43, had been the leading candidate to replace Carlos Carvalhal from day one, and he will be tasked with attempting to rebuild Swansea's fortunes following their relegation from the Premier League.
Last week Swansea had confirmed they had reached a compensation agreement with Swedish club Ostersunds over the services of Potter, as well as nailing down personal terms.
He brings assistant Billy Reid and recruitment analyst Kyle Macaulay with him.
Nottingham Forest have agreed a club record fee in the region of £13m for Benfica midfielder Joao Carvalho, Sky Sports News understands. :o
It also includes a loan deal for fellow Benfica player Diogo Goncalves. Carvalho only played 8 times last season, so it's not as if they are buying a 1st team regular. He is an U21 though.
I wonder if with the success Wolves have had that a lot of Championship clubs will be looking to Portugal for players?
It also includes a loan deal for fellow Benfica player Diogo Goncalves. Carvalho only played 8 times last season, so it's not as if they are buying a 1st team regular. He is an U21 though.
I wonder if with the success Wolves have had that a lot of Championship clubs will be looking to Portugal for players?
Frank Lampard's Derby now have Harry Wilson from Liverpool and exciting England prospect Mason Mount from Chelsea.Maybe a case of 'It’s who you know'. Still a gamble though.
2 young but exciting pkayers there. Mason Mount would have been perfect for us.
Maybe a case of 'It’s who you know'. Still a gamble though.
Yeah I don't blame the club at all for not getting Mount, that is clearly down to Lampard (that is probably the reason Derby brought him in, they were cutting their budget so knew loans would be their best option).
No way did Derby appoint a manager based on his ability to attract loan players.
Just bumped into a Forest fam. my they have spent a few quid. expect them to be up there. i would take a point now
Leeds look set to sign Bamford for £7m plus 3m add ons according to some sources. Some serious money being thrown about this year by a number of clubsWhich would presumably mean they won't be signing Vydra also.
Another one of the premier league's more exciting loan prospects is dropping down to the championship.
Welsh International Ben Woodburn is odds on to go to Villa. Turns 19 in a couple of months time so is a decent age. Could be a great signing.
The championship are set to have some real exciting kids this season.
With the championship season now upon us, I thought I would clog the thread up a bit with a few stats......
What those stats tell me is that stats tell us nothing (in this scenario)
so folks whats the betting, whos the favourites for promotion
so folks whats the betting, whos the favourites for promotion
probably been touched on in this thread already. did i hear correct Quest are now showing championship highlights
How do you get Quest TV?
Quest can be accessed on Freeview, Freesat, Sky, Virgin Media and BT TV. These are the relevant channels:
Sky: Channel 144; Channel 244 (+1)
Virgin Media Ireland: Channel 154
Virgin Media: Channel 172; Channel 173 (+1)
Virgin TV Anywhere: Watch live (UK only)
Freeview: Channel 37; Channel 83 (+1)
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Freesat: Channel 167; Channel 168 (+1)
http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11688/11454561/sky-bet-championship-table-prediction-where-will-the-24-clubs-finish-this-season
http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11688/11454561/sky-bet-championship-table-prediction-where-will-the-24-clubs-finish-this-season
i dont agree with that table at all, i dont think they know what they are talking about. Brentford 3rd lol. Pulis to go up thats a laugh
I have to agree Glyn what a load of garbage i'll have money on that not being the top six.
i dont agree with that table at all, i dont think they know what they are talking about. Brentford 3rd lol. Pulis to go up thats a laugh
probably been touched on in this thread already. did i hear correct Quest are now showing championship highlights
yes they've been advertising it for a few weeks now. Colin Murray hosting it. They are also doing Carabao cup highlights.
https://www.efl.com/news/2018/may/quest-becomes-new-home-of-efl-highlights/
I have read somewhere Ian Holloway is one of the pundits.......thats enough for me not to tune in!
I have read somewhere Ian Holloway is one of the pundits.......thats enough for me not to tune in!
Every time I watched the Championship last season the play was dire. Expecting more of the same tonight. Reading vs Derby.
1 nil Reading...
So much for Frank and Mason. Thoroughly deserved.
Derby pinch it in last 5 seconds totally against the run of play. Dreadful from Reading. We're going to p1ss this division.
Derby won't be in the mix neither of these teams will.
Forest and stoke are the ones to watch
http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11688/11454561/sky-bet-championship-table-prediction-where-will-the-24-clubs-finish-this-season
Derby pinch it in last 5 seconds totally against the run of play. Dreadful from Reading. We're going to p1ss this division.After a one game observation? You should apply as a pundit on talksh@te. 😉
After a one game observation? You should apply as a pundit on talksh@te. 😉
After a one game observation? You should apply as a pundit on talksh@te. 😉
What aspect of our performances last season make you think we'll "p1ss this division" this season?
Once it was clear we weren't getting rid of Pards I watched virtually every game last season. Mid Feb onwards. They were all woeful including the D1ngle5.
What aspect of our performances last season make you think we'll "p1ss this division" this season?
It’s a new season though. Last season means nothing now. There will be different approaches to games by all clubs. Maybe especially against the relegated clubs. I’m looking forward to seeing how we perform tomorrow. I haven’t for a long time. It has been too predictable for way too long. COYB. 👍🏼
Once it was clear we weren't getting rid of Pards I watched virtually every game last season. Mid Feb onwards. They were all woeful including the D1ngle5.
After today’s game between Leeds v Stoke, we are out of the bottom 3 ;DThanks for that crumb of comfort
Thanks for that crumb of comfort
Another thing about the championship is that in the main its blood & thunder football - I don't get that we'll be able to play that way (or combat it) at least initially.
We're going to be up against 10/11 behind the ball at home & up against it away - are we adaptable enough?
2 dreadful Hull mistakes gifting Vile 3 points tonight. Yet another abysmal match.
do we have to fear the seals
yan dhanda gone to swansea from Liverpool, wasnt he with us before liverpool
yan dhanda gone to swansea from Liverpool, wasnt he with us before liverpool
Have i heard correct,So if Sky are showing a championship game live any other championship games being played at the same time you can watch via the red button, thats coolmidweek only I believe.
Sick of everyone fantasizing over leeds, the wheels will come off!!!
Have i heard correct,So if Sky are showing a championship game live any other championship games being played at the same time you can watch via the red button, thats coolYes, that is right - just midweek as said above. I've had a look tonight. To be picky, the downsides are that apart from the 'main' Sky selected game, it's not HD, you can't record it and there seem to be less cameras - but even so far better than not being able to see your team at all.
Nice to see McLean, Berahino and Fletcher doing well
Stoke two down at home to Wigan ;Dmake that three
Villa now 1-1
Villa level with virtually the last effort of the gameJacksey gets .
Now I don't want to jump the gun this but things are not looking too bright at Stoke. They have backed Rowett but seriously a 4-4-2 with Allen and Fletcher as central midfield?They are NOT happy with McClean whatsoever ;D
Hate to say it but with Bolaise in the team, Villa will be far more attacking and get more wins as a result. Couple that with Bruce's solid defense and it doesn't look good for the other teams.
Mulumbu linked with Swansea! Think they are a few years out with that one but, if they can get him back to anything like his best, they'll have a bargain. Probably still got more energy than our current two.Quite interesting the Potter strategy of picking up "out of favour" players and getting them firing again, has come up with mulumbu. Maybe there is more left in Yousseff than we think?
Quite interesting the Potter strategy of picking up "out of favour" players and getting them firing again, has come up with mulumbu. Maybe there is more left in Yousseff than we think?
Don't know about that he hardly pulled up trees at Norwich and Kilmarnock. We definitely had the best of him.
Don't know about that he hardly pulled up trees at Norwich and Kilmarnock. We definitely had the best of him.
Agree nothing of note happened with Mulumbu at Norwich but he was exceptional for Kilmarnock.
I know it's all about levels but he did very, very well north of the border.
Wasn't he crocked for a long period at Norwich ?
Wasn't he crocked for a long period at Norwich ?
Would still prefer him to Brunt in the midfield without seeing what he is like currently.
I'd prefer him to Livermore.
Stats
Possession 67%-33%
Shots 2-4
On Target 0-1
Corners 3-2
Fouls 4-7
Possession ring any bells?
See a few comments saying Villa are weaker than last year. Hard to argue that now with Tammy Abraham on board. One of the best English strikers around, wanted by premier league clubs. Only reason Villa have him is due to the prem loan window closing to early for Chelsea to make the call.
Bolasie, Grealish, Chester, Kodija, Adomah, McGinn, Tuanzebe all good players at this level.
I put them up there with Leeds, Boro, Stoke as one of the top teams in the division.
Bruce might be their biggest problem.
FT 0-0
Home62%Away38%
Shots
Home9Away9
Shots on Target
Home2Away3
Corners
Home6Away5
Fouls
Home11Away15
Not a bad difference in comparison to QPR"s punishment !Birmingham are not a Larndon team.
Hang on? Rival Championship clubs pointed this out? Why would they need to do that? Surely the EPL were already aware.
Bolton Wanderers reportedely going into administration.
12 points deduction and a two year transfer embargo if they go.
Another club with a wonderful history hitting the buffers
how on gods earth did we loose to these at home
Patrick Bamford of Leeds ruled out for four months with a knee injury.Being horrible maybe but that's really good news for us. Following years of not really fulfilling his potential he was starting to look quite decent.Us or them? Us every time if you want to be a winner.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/45486014
Bristol City have the best away kit I've ever seen :o
Stoke have missed a pen chance to make it 3-3
Starting to see cracks in the sides around us.Very much this, as for the run coming up I see wigan as a tough test
Stoke look a complete mess, Brentford showed their frailties, Leeds' injury problems catching up. Dinosaur Bruce making a potent Villa attack completely useless by playing half the defence out of position. Boro were 0-0 at home to a poor Swansea side and dinosaur Pulis takes off Assombalonga, Downing and Saville for Hugill, a defensive midfielder and a left back to hold on for a point.
Derby are the team that worry me most atm, Lampard got them playing some good stuff and Mason Mount is every bit as good as Barnes.
Stoke in bottom half. Heard it here first.
This is the better side of football....We are challenging for the top, rather than looking over our shoulders at the drop (from the prem.).
Which would you prefer if you can't have everything?
What we have now. Stuff the Premier League it's boring.
Keep em coming lads ;)
You still sure about Wolves going straight back down though? ;D
Leeds held be Wednesday, looks like they're hitting the rails earlier than usual and Villa and Brizzle draw. We could go top today. We are against the team bottom of the league...
ark at Norwich all of a sudden only 3 points behind us :o
how you liking pulisball boro fans, obviously 50/50 at the minute. ring any bells folks
ark at Norwich all of a sudden only 3 points behind us :o
Yeah I noticed them in 5th aswell
Crept in they have
Bannan suspended for Wednesday night, he has been key for them this season
Very good player at this level, put him in our midfield with Livermore and nobody would get near us in the league.Ridiculous claim.
Ridiculous claim.
Boro and sheff utd held tonight, which is good for us. Just hope we can capitalise tomorrow against Derby. A win would take us top.
Villa lost and Blues won, taking them above AV.
You know the Championship is the most gloriously bonkers league. It is the football equivalent of the wacky races tonight QPR are just a point off the play-off places. When we played them they were the worst team I had seem at the Hawthorns in a long while and they lost their opening 4 games. There is no team running at 2 points plus a game which is the rough benchmark for promotion.
QPR are on a roll. They are up to seventh now after beating Villa 1-0. It was their third clean sheet in a row.
Derby all over Boro I fancy them for automatic promotion Lampard looks like he has the makings of a good manager.
Dean Smith destroys Lampard who has only just destroyed our cretin of a manager
We will regret not going for Smith. He’s a proven successful manager
What position in the league is Smith's team and which position is Dave's team in?
Which team has scored 37 goals so far?
I rest my case.
What position in the league is Smith's team and which position is Dave's team in?
Which team has scored 37 goals so far?
I rest my case.
Wouldn't rest it yet to be honest
In his current job Smith has had 5 games, won 3 drawn 2, scored 7, conceded 3 with a squad he's just took over.
Our last 5 we've won 1 drawn 1 lost 3, scored 6, conceded 8 with a squad he's been in charge of longer and had a transfer window
Long way to go yet but shows stats can be produced to suit any purpose.
Dean Smith destroys Lampard who has only just destroyed our manager
This was well timed just hours before DM outclassed Bielsa... ;D
Man with better players wins football match ;D
Not great results today, we need to keep our momentum up. 3 points off auto again
Said it before in my opinion this is one of the toughest leagues in the world. Any one of 7+ teams can win this league.
Cant believe that POS Hutton scored!
Xmas / New Year period will be massive and sort the men from the boys.
Personally I think Sheff Utd will fade they did so last season also. Also I don't see Leeds threatening the top as I don't think they're good enough. I'm very interested to see if Norwich can maintain their form. They have a German Manager who won't be complacent and driving them on in every game.
I think the Top 2 will come from this list:
WBA
Aston Villa
Middlesbrough
Norwich
Derby County
Nott'm Forest
I'd like
1st us
2nd Forrest
Playoffs to have the first semi boro vs villa....TP wins 1-0 on aggregate (Rudd gestede) and TP reveals a "owed you that" blue n White stripped t shirt
Final is between boro and Qpr
Qpr win 3-0 all from headers at corners with some loose defending, mclaren reveals a red tshirt with the words "owed you that"
Draws nowadays are not good enough. We’ve got to keep winning because there are so many teams in the mix.
The old adage of win at home draw away still holds true 2pts per game will see you promoted I wouldn't be unhappy with a point at Swansea .
Starting to shape up now. Can see it being between 4/5 teams for the top 2 places, although I do have a feeling Boro will go up as champions.
If we can pick up a decent return of points from our next 3 that will put us right in the thick of it for the Christmas period.
absolutely mental game Villa v Forest. Kind of wish I had watched that than spend all evening pressing refresh button on WBA stream to see about 7 mins of actual play ::)
Yacob got a yellow, but by all accounts he did his job well.That’s exactly what the Yak does gets booked but does the job!!
Villa look good heading into next Friday... Could be a tasty game!
Villa look good heading into next Friday... Could be a tasty game!
The vile lot don't like attacking sides.
Pulis's lot lot just sat back and vile went rampant....They couldn't believe it wasn't their birthday.
We have to threaten them from the off.
Villa have also conceded several from set pieces haven't they ? Not that we want to rely on those too much.
Don't forget we've beaten Norwich and Leeds already.
Plenty of time for us to catchup.
They lose and draw and we win and its neck and neck again.
Be positive eh?
I fail to see why so many are so keen to get back to losing far, far more than we win and to be enmeshed in perennial battles against relegation unless it is because it gives them far more scope to find fault and moan?
If we get promoted with the current, aged, squad it aint going to be pretty and there is little to no prospect of the club spending big to reinforce the squad so I intend to enjoy to the full every moment of the current season in the moment and let the future worry about itself
Very good piece on Norwich and sheds light on what they're building and what us/the rest of the Championship are up against. 7 points feels like a lot after reading this!
https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11709/11578660/norwich-top-of-the-table-stuart-webber-explains-how-it-happened
Very good piece on Norwich and sheds light on what they're building and what us/the rest of the Championship are up against. 7 points feels like a lot after reading this!
https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11709/11578660/norwich-top-of-the-table-stuart-webber-explains-how-it-happened
It's a massive shame that our club refuses to think outside the box and has a policy of targeting British based players. It started under Pulis, got us relegated, and yet we still seem insistent on it.
Norwich and Leeds both have foreign managers and have plenty of foreign players doing well, Wolves and Fulham p*ssed the league last season with foreign managers and large contingents of foreign players. Norwich had to cut costs last summer and ended up vastly improving their squad due to good scouting.
Yet we're sitting here hoping we can get an ageing Andy King in on loan because those at the club don't seem to have a clue about anything outside of English football. I long for the days of signing an Odemwingie, Mulumbu, Yacob or Olsson.
me too, but for every one of them is a Blanco, El Ghannasay, Davidson and Krychowiak.
I don't think it's correct to add Krychowiak into this list. He was a Polish international at PSG, one of the richest clubs in the world at the time and still are, when we signed him. The others you mentioned will have had low impact in terms of any transfer fee or wages I presume and I think that's the point, you can get better value for money elsewhere. Would I focus all my recruitment on other markets, no probably not but we should be utilising it far more in spite of the Balnco's and Davidson's.
Krychowiak has just played in all 6 groups games in the Champions League and 15 of the 17 league games for his side who are 5th in the Russian Premier so he must be doing something right, maybe he wasn't the issue and we were.
me too, but for every one of them is a Blanco, El Ghannasay, Davidson and Krychowiak.
I agree we should be casting our net further and maybe we will in the summer, as you say it's the scouting that important
Not a happy Christmas to Pulis, one down already and boro fans not happy,oh deary me.
Vile losing at home to Stoke...🤣
One each 8) .
Still think Villa Stoke and Swansea will be around the top six come the end of the season, its up to us to make good signings soon and keep it going to the season end.
Pullis sacked :D
Not for me... Villa will be, but end up 7th to 10th.
Stoke under the attritional Rowett 12th-18th.
Swansea 10th and below.
Think it's us and one other for automatic promotion the top six completed by Leeds, Derby, Middlesbrough Forest and either Norwich or Sheffield United.
Extemely low quality game at Pride Park ends goalless and we're on our own in 3rd.best result we could have asked for
Extemely low quality game at Pride Park ends goalless and we're on our own in 3rd.
best result we could have asked for
Leeds are away at Villa and Norwich at blackburn so could both well drop points. So good opportunity for us to regain ground with a good result
A Villa draw, Blackburn win and a Baggies win would probably be the best outcome for us this weekend.
Villa will win the league I think, particularly given they'll probably spend a load in January now.
Conversely I think Leeds will increasingly drop points, their bench is made up of teenagers and only 6 on it, Bielsa is famous for his high-intensity tactics, it all suggests they'll struggle to keep up as the season goes on. It'll be interesting to see how they handle this run of games over Christmas.
2-2...all Leeds..
Villa will win the league I think, particularly given they'll probably spend a load in January now.Blimey, its bad enough their own giving it large.
Conversely I think Leeds will increasingly drop points, their bench is made up of teenagers and only 6 on it, Bielsa is famous for his high-intensity tactics, it all suggests they'll struggle to keep up as the season goes on. It'll be interesting to see how they handle this run of games over Christmas.
Blimey, its bad enough their own giving it large.
2 nil. Should be enough to win the game.
And how is this a good result for us?! Makes it even harder to catch the top 2 now. At best i wanted a draw for leeds, now we are 6 points behind them and 5 behind norwich because of their jammy winners. Argh >:(
Where is McSkittle when you need him???
Absolutely hilarious..... made my day that has!!!
SOTV
And how is this a good result for us?! Makes it even harder to catch the top 2 now. At best i wanted a draw for leeds, now we are 6 points behind them and 5 behind norwich because of their jammy winners. Argh >:(We have 23 games to peg back 6pts relax and enjoy Christmas more than the claret and blue braggarts will be doing :D.
So what? I know we have half a season ahead of us but whos to say we wont slip up ourselves. Isnt automatic promotion what we want no?
There are 23 games remaining. Not 3, not 5, not 10 but 23
So what? I know we have half a season ahead of us but whos to say we wont slip up ourselves. Isnt automatic promotion what we want no?
Chill, stop worrying. ;)Haha ive just got my negative head on but ultimately i dont want us to lose sight of the top 2. Overall, halfway through the season we are a good position! As others say, it is nice to see them lot bottle it!
Why on earth was I reading earlier people wanting the Vile to win?Well said fritzl I think that's the first time I have agreed with you ;). apart from I would want the dingles to win!.
There is plenty of time for us to catch Leeds, and we will, but it's the Vile...we should never be wanting them to win. The only dilemma arises when they play the Dingles.
Closing the gap on Leeds would have been nice but equally having the Villa drop further behind us isn't a terrible outcome. On top of that we get bonus laughs at Villa's expense because of the manner of the defeat. What is there not to like?
Ultimately automatic promotion will only achieved if we get the points needed which is 2 points a game across 46 games if 2 teams have stellar seasons and do better than that well good luck to them.
What I don't want is for us to end up in the Play-Offs, because that's just a lottery, and depends on who turns up on the day. Anyone else see an Albion v Villa Play-Off Final looming on the horizon?
Usually, I don't want those scumbags to win a thrown in.
But, given Leeds lead over us I, God forgive me, I wanted them to draw.
I felt dirty and had to take a long bath and was gutted when they were winning 2-nil.
At the end I was elated. Sod the sotv forever.
Hopefully, Leeds will burn out as many of biesla's teams have previously and/or Norwich collapse.
I hope you used bicarbonate of soda and a brillo pad you filthy beast ;D ;) .
SOTV 8) .
What I don't want is for us to end up in the Play-Offs, because that's just a lottery, and depends on who turns up on the day. Anyone else see an Albion v Villa Play-Off Final looming on the horizon?
Another goal for Norwich in the 8th minute of injury time...interesting.How much injury time has been added for Norwich this season? I'm sure with us and our 4-3 win at Carrow Road there was over 6 minutes added too.
Must have different clocks at Carrow Road than the Hawthorns ;)
How much injury time has been added for Norwich this season? I'm sure with us and our 4-3 win at Carrow Road there was over 6 minutes added too.
With Leeds I can understand, it doesn't happen weekly and Mowbray is known to crumble, but Norwich seems very common. Still, we have gained on them.
Incredible the amount of late goals going Norwich and Leeds' way the past month. I'd say it isn't sustainable but it looks like it is.
Becoming very much a three horse race - Norwich are really taking the pee with their late goals. Seems to be every week they score in the last minuteAlso we let Kamar go, for what ever reason.
Also we let Kamar go, for what ever reason.
Difference we've seen is that we've got quality to not rely on that, they're running on something that could easily run out over the course of the season to come... we only need one of them to do that!
Also we let Kamar go, for what ever reason.
Roofe left when Appleton took him to Oxford on a 50% sell on clause.
He then perforened well there and they sold him to Leeds, netting us £1.5m.
We were in the prem at the time, where he hasn't played to date.
What is sad is none of our current youth players look like they are good enough.
We must have rated Roofe as I don't think we put the 50% sell on clause in every deal, but he wasn't going to get game time unfortunately.
The Norwich game on 12th will be a great one to win.
Be great to have Gayle back for it.
Aitor Karanka faces Nottingham Forest sack after falling short of end-of-year target of Championship top six
Talk of him taking over at Milwall
Just seen the goals. All individual errors.
First one, Darikwa deflects it past the keeper. Second, weak tackle and poor keeping. Third, swing and a miss on the initial clearance and then defenders standing and watching.
If the players do the basics, they win that.
Not sure who Forest could bring in who would do better with that squad
Aitor Karanka faces Nottingham Forest sack after falling short of end-of-year target of Championship top six
Talk of him taking over at Milwall
Villa will be in the top six absolute certainty. If they're not I will run round the pitch at The Hawthorns naked with just a Villa shirt on. Trust me you won't want to see that. ;DI think you'll find we really do
Villa will be in the top six absolute certainty. If they're not I will run round the pitch at The Hawthorns naked with just a Villa shirt on. Trust me you won't want to see that. ;DOnly if get supplied with rotten veg to cover that vile strip ;).
Villa will be in the top six absolute certainty. If they're not I will run round the pitch at The Hawthorns naked with just a Villa shirt on. Trust me you won't want to see that. ;D
Villa will be in the top six absolute certainty. If they're not I will run round the pitch at The Hawthorns naked with just a Villa shirt on. Trust me you won't want to see that. ;D
There are no certainties to go up.
How people can state as fact that Leeds will blah blah blah.
What I do know is I expect us to be in top six with a better than average chance of top two.
Especially with our improving defence.
If I were to go out on a limb:
1. Albion
2. Leeds
3. Norwich
4. Middlesbrough
5. Sheffield United
6. Derby
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9. Blues
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12. Villa
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16. Stoke
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21. Rotherham
22. Bolton
23. Reading
24. Ipswich
I am genuinely surprised at the level of optimism surrounding Stoke and Villa's prospects. A top 2 finish looks beyond them. Stoke are 11th and Villa are 9th 14 and 12 points adrift. On paper both might be capable of putting a run together that would propel them up the league but for that run to result in automatic promotion one of the top 2 have to blow up and none of the teams 9 or 7 teams ahead of them match that run.
Since Smith took over at Villa they have improved but they aren't running at 2 points a game which will be the absoulte minimum they need to even get close to the top 2. Stoke have improved from being terrible to okay and even 2 points a game for the rest of the season does not get them top 2.
Both might spend big in January but one thing that has chartacterised their decline is a willingness to spend money and an ability to spend it badly. Might change in this window might not until a player is in situ and dovetails with what they currently have I honestly will reserve judgement. Smith's appointment might be a game changer in this respect but I would reserve judgement on Rowett.
I wouldn't rule out either of them making the play-offs I would be surprised if both did and shocked if either made the top 2.
My optimism for Stoke (spits and self flaggelates) is simply based upon the BET365 cash, I accept that they have an amazing ability to spend badly but the Whelans must get lucky at some point if only due to a statistical anomaly.
They will surely spend massively in Jan and something / someone will work for them, or is project Stoke City over ??
If not then they may have to put their Coates on........
Fancy a little wager that my prediction of Stoke 2nd is closer than yours of Stoke 16th ???
I'll happily have a bet with you Stoke's final points total is closer to the team in 16th than the team in 2nd...
My optimism for Stoke (spits and self flaggelates) is simply based upon the BET365 cash, I accept that they have an amazing ability to spend badly but the Whelans must get lucky at some point if only due to a statistical anomaly.
They will surely spend massively in Jan and something / someone will work for them, or is project Stoke City over ??
This is a club that spent £6m on JAMES MCCLEAN I have got great faith in dumb luck but that's a pretty deep hole to recover from.
Sheff Utd signed Kieran dowell on loan from Everton on loan
Good signing , exactly the type of attacking midfielder we need
Sheff Utd signed Kieran dowell on loan from Everton on loan
Good signing , exactly the type of attacking midfielder we need
9 mins added time played and still playing. Anybody know why so much added time?
9 mins added time played and still playing. Anybody know why so much added time?Floodlights failure
9 mins added time played and still playing. Anybody know why so much added time?
Can see Sheff utd, with the addition of Dowell (who had a good time in the league last year), will be the real danger in the secons half of the season.
We will need to make a couple of signings to keep pace with the top sides in the league.
Rumours flying around that Wolves have had a 18million pound bid accepted for Tammy Abraham.
Rumours flying around that Wolves have had a 18million pound bid accepted for Tammy Abraham.
I know it's The Metro but they have reported that Chelsea have accepted an £18M bid from Wolves, this is the first report I can find with a definite accept, rather than just Wolves being interested or getting ready to bid.
https://metro.co.uk/2019/01/02/chelsea-accept-18m-bid-wolves-striker-tammy-abraham-8302357/
Rowett facing the sack with Allardyce or Moyes lined up to replace, according to BBC Gossip :o
Clubs just don't learn do they? If that was us I think I'd be close to done with football. These dinosaurs fail over and over and just keep getting jobs. Even Bruce has already got a job lined up after failing miserably at Villa and leaving them in a mess.
Clubs just don't learn do they? If that was us I think I'd be close to done with football. These dinosaurs fail over and over and just keep getting jobs. Even Bruce has already got a job lined up after failing miserably at Villa and leaving them in a mess.
Clubs just don't learn do they? If that was us I think I'd be close to done with football. These dinosaurs fail over and over and just keep getting jobs. Even Bruce has already got a job lined up after failing miserably at Villa and leaving them in a mess.
Not sure Bruce left them in a mess - he inherited a mess when they was hovering above the relegation zone. Then took them to a play off final.
Things never worked out this season for him but he was not helped with the shenanigans of the summer. He's a smooth operator at this level and his record shows that.
Most Wednesday fans are delighted with his appointment which would suggest their is some life in the old dinosaur yet.
Stoke have Sacked Rowett
The young lad Clarke at leeds is some player....sets up another 2-0 Leeds..
The young lad Clarke at leeds is some player....sets up another 2-0 Leeds..
Credit the Leeds manager for giving this youngster his opportunity. If only Moore had the same confidence in our talented youngsters.Think this is his first start but he has come on as a sub in the last few games playing around 30 mins each time...you can see how is confidence has grown...mind you how we lost to this Derby team is beyond me..they are awful..
Think this is his first start but he has come on as a sub in the last few games playing around 30 mins each time...you can see how is confidence has grown...mind you how we lost to this Derby team is beyond me..they are awful..
Derby had the perfect storm against us everything they touched went in. That back pass from Rodriguez still gives me nightmares. However we needed derby to turn up today. We're 9 points behind Leeds as it stands. We really need to win tomorrow just to reduce it to 6!
Stoke and Middlesbrough away and Norwich at home are 3/4 Leeds next games we need to keep winning and we might be able to get within a couple of points as that's a hard run
Frustrated we are still 3 pts behind Sheff Utd and Norwich. How many of their players would get in our team? Hardly any I'd guess.
What I do know is that their managers know exactly what they're doing in terms of game plan and personnel.
They seem to be very clear on starting 11 and possible substitutions within a game. In fact Wilder said the personnel that lost to Barnet last week will not feature again this season.
You have to give credit to Farke, he come over here seen what the championship needs and then used his knowledge of players to find a team of mainly unheard of players and has made them contenders.
For the first time in a long time I saw a team where I had hardly heard of any of the players.
It is great having a British squad but it is very expensive to maintain.
Farke has found the likes of pukki and Zimmerman and they probably earn about the same or even less than the likes of Field.
All continental managers use their knowledge and contacts in Europe, which is bound to be greater than of players here. In so doing, they get a head start on British managers who usually don't have first hand knowledge of players outside the domestic leagues. They can also steal some players for much lower transfer fees. Koeman did that alot. Foreign players are a risk because some don't settle here, but some will feel more comfortable if they have a fellow countryman managing their club.
Farke managed at regional league level in Germany before stepping up to Borussia Dortmund Reserves.
Martin O’Neil and Roy Keane to return to Forest and Manager and Assistant respectively. Football is a romantic game sometimes!
Was wondering whether to start a new thread but will pop it in here as its 'Championship' related.
Now we have played every team at least once, what one opposition player has stood out for you, a player you've thought - he would look good in our 11?
Was wondering whether to start a new thread but will pop it in here as its 'Championship' related.
Now we have played every team at least once, what one opposition player has stood out for you, a player you've thought - he would look good in our 11?
Teemu Pukki, him and Gayle would be awesome.
It'll all end in tears.
Bielsa has called a press conference for 5pm at Leeds.
Wonder what its about, Leeds fans on twitter are fearing the worst.
One Leeds fan however has claimed the conference is at a place where they usually do medicals so could be a signing.
They are signing a goalkeeperThe latest hot rumour is that he’s going to resign. 😃
They are signing a goalkeeper
If you have twitter search for Phil Hey (Leeds Journalist) - have a read of the comments on there. Even if it is just him announcing a keeper, it's a good read to see how scared some of the Leeds fans are of losing him.Apparently has resigned like this before
If you have twitter search for Phil Hey (Leeds Journalist) - have a read of the comments on there. Even if it is just him announcing a keeper, it's a good read to see how scared some of the Leeds fans are of losing him.
He’s fantastic and a breath of fresh air - we’ll done to him for his honestylooks like his ploy worked on you then.
His side have been a joy to watch this season and it’s not hard to see why with the level of analysis they produce
Must not have been able to get onto our training pitch...
Must not have been able to get onto our training pitch...Think he did but we were probably still trying to work with the three at the back and if you remember Leeds was the first game where we tried the new formation and obviously it f**ked him over.
He’s fantastic and a breath of fresh air - we’ll done to him for his honesty
His side have been a joy to watch this season and it’s not hard to see why with the level of analysis they produce
The fact that they are the only side sending people to watch other teams training sessionsNot picking a fight here but how do you know this to be true? All it realy means is no one else has been caught at it yet and didn't one of the prem teams put in adjustable height fencing around their training ground to stop just this sort of thing going on?
It isn't intelligent, it is cheating.
The fact that they are the only side sending people to watch other teams training sessions means it is not a level playing field and they have an unfair advantage over every other side in the league, which completely goes against the concept of a fair competition. They should certainly be punished in some way.
I'm not sure you can have a watertight security system that stops other teams spying on your training sessions. I wouldn't be surprised if some of the very affluent teams don't have paid agents inside their main rivals' coaching set up. Punishing the team that does it openly would seem unfair.
BTW watched Derby yesterday and I was impressed with their movement and slick passing. They are fortunate in that Lampard has used his contacts at Chelsea to bring in some talented youngsters such as Tomori, Wilson, Mount... wonder if Jones can use his contacts in Belgium :D
taking an advantage over your competition isn't a crime and as such should not be punished, I would call it professional initiative.it depends on where their grounds end as they could get them on trespassing and MAY breach privacy laws. I’m not a lawyer but I’m sure you can implicate Bielsa and/or Leeds in some fashion.
Good luck to them.
EFL press release from Jan' 15th relating to 'Bielsagate':
"The EFL has today written to Leeds United requesting their observations in regard to an incident that took place in the vicinity of Derby County’s training ground on Thursday 10 January, 2019.
It follows a complaint from Derby County who allege that an individual, acting under the instruction of Leeds United, sought to observe a private training session the day before the two Clubs were due to meet in the Sky Bet Championship.
The EFL has now determined that it is appropriate to consider this matter in the context of a number of EFL Regulations whilst also noting that the alleged actions appear to contravene the Club Charter that all EFL Clubs agreed to in summer 2018.
The decision to progress this matter to a formal investigation comes as a result of the Club’s manager, Marcelo Bielsa, admitting to instructing an individual to undertake the acts being complained of in a television interview broadcast on Sky Sports on Friday 11 January 2019.
The Football Association has also confirmed they are considering the same matter in line with its own rules and the EFL will work with its FA counterparts to ensure that any potential action taken does not prejudice those investigations being undertaken.
Relevant Regulations:
At this stage the EFL considers that the following Regulations are relevant to this particular issue:
(a) Regulation 3.4 provides that:
“In all matters and transactions relating to The League each Club shall behave towards each other Club and The League with the utmost good faith…â€
(b) Regulation 21. The EFL also considers it may be appropriate to take action against individuals, including the Manager, on the basis that Regulation 21 provides as follows:
“… all Officials and Players shall by virtue of their fulfilment of those roles be deemed to have given to The League:
21.2.1 an undertaking to The League not to bring The League or any Club, into disrepute;
21.2.2 an undertaking not to do anything or omit to do anything which will cause a Club to be in breach of the Laws of the Game, the Football Association Rules, these Regulations or the Articles of Association…â€
https://www.efl.com/news/2019/january/efl-statement-leeds-united-and-derby-county/
Suppose any actions (or otherwise) depend on how much value is attached to terms such as 'good faith', 'disrepute' and 'these Regulations or Articles of Association'.
What a time to be alive ;D .
Hey liam,you mean after he was caught out.
Well he's been open and honest that someone has watched a training session of teams in this division.I love the fact his ploy was to distract people with his presentation when those reporters already know that this data was available and most if not all managers do this nowadays. Albion have a department specifically to collect data and video not only of opposition teams, but where our players weaknesses are and how to improve.
I have no issue with that whatsoever - I find it to be rather intelligent to be honest and if anything highlights the lack of security issues with member clubs.
Bielsa produced 300 hours of footage which assessed every player and pattern of play related to Derby County.
To suggest that Leeds are where they are because they have been involved in spygate, is for the birds.
I still repeat - he has been a breath of fresh air to this division and has took the quality of football to another level.
I love the fact his ploy was to distract people with his presentation when those reporters already know that this data was available and most if not all managers do this nowadays. Albion have a department specifically to collect data and video not only of opposition teams, but where our players weaknesses are and how to improve.
Well he's been open and honest that someone has watched a training session of teams in this division.
I have no issue with that whatsoever - I find it to be rather intelligent to be honest and if anything highlights the lack of security issues with member clubs.
Bielsa produced 300 hours of footage which assessed every player and pattern of play related to Derby County.
To suggest that Leeds are where they are because they have been involved in spygate, is for the birds.
I still repeat - he has been a breath of fresh air to this division and has took the quality of football to another level.
All so subjective, will boil down to how much the big 6 fear a resurgent leeds and their fanbase.
I'm not sure you can have a watertight security system that stops other teams spying on your training sessions. I wouldn't be surprised if some of the very affluent teams don't have paid agents inside their main rivals' coaching set up. Punishing the team that does it openly would seem unfair.
BTW watched Derby yesterday and I was impressed with their movement and slick passing. They are fortunate in that Lampard has used his contacts at Chelsea to bring in some talented youngsters such as Tomori, Wilson, Mount... wonder if Jones can use his contacts in Belgium :D
Norwich 1-0 up
Not good start for us
As I type 1-1 cracking game this
Autos just look a bit too difficult right now. Sad as it is to say.
Why? Win our game in hand at Bolton and the gap is back to 3 points. Norwich have games against Sheffield Utd and Leeds coming up. There's still a long way to go.
I have watched Sheff Utd several times this season and have not been impressed with them once....How on earth are they so high?
I have watched Sheff Utd several times this season and have not been impressed with them once....How on earth are they so high?
Because the league is dross. The likes of Birmingham, QPR and Hull have a good chance at making the play offs with awful squads. All the teams with the best squads started the season with the weakest managers and it's left everybody bunched up with everything still to play for.
We've only played well about 4 times this season and still have a good chance at automatic promotion.
The league isn't dross at all it's (about) the eighth best league in Europe. It's far from dross.
Villa will be in the top six absolute certainty. If they're not I will run round the pitch at The Hawthorns naked with just a Villa shirt on. Trust me you won't want to see that. ;D
Care to say which games they were?
The league isn't dross at all it's (about) the eighth best league in Europe. It's far from dross.
Also while Deano up the road ships goals for fun. Brentford are unbeaten in 7... maybe it IS the set-up throughout the club?
Thoughts ;D
They're going to be lucky to finish top half.
I don't think you're in much of a position for mocking other people's predictions... are Wolves in the relegation dogfight yet? :-X
Really glad we aren't one of the clubs to have written to the FA. While the FA should investigate it, I don't quite know what clubs writing a letter are expecting.
leeds norwich and sheff utd all drawing 5 minutes to go
You had to say it 😢
Leeds look destined to be the runaway winners now. Top coach who has rediscovered his mojo and a team that just can’t be held down.
The real race is for 2nd spot, with us, Norwich, Sheffield Utd and Boro all looking like we could take the last remaining place. It’s why replacing Barnes and Sako is key.
Its always been the best programme.
How old is the Albion news?
I used to get into games as a kid( always loved night matches) they used to open the gates before the end of a match and I would sneak in and with eyes wide open saw a bit of a game then look for programmes that people had dropped in the halfords under the old wooden flipup seats.
That would be around 1964 ish,
Swansea City striker Wilfried Bony has joined Qatari club Al-Arabi on loan until the end of the season.
His contract with the Welsh club will expire this summer after his spell with the Doha-based club has finished.
They are shipping a few out, obviously as a result of financial pressures. How lucky we are with flex down wages
Derby signed Andy King on loan from Leicester for rest of the season
Swansea have played a blinder for us today. Strung Leeds along all day, rinsed Villa by offering Fer then, sending the woeful Carroll instead.
If you include the players that HAVE left Swansea today, including to us, I'm worried as to what's happening over there :-X :-X
If you include the players that HAVE left Swansea today, including to us, I'm worried as to what's happening over there :-X :-Xthat's Yank owners for you, ay got a clue how to run a football club. sure Bony left today aswel.
Its always been the best programme.
How old is the Albion news?
I used to get into games as a kid( always loved night matches) they used to open the gates before the end of a match and I would sneak in and with eyes wide open saw a bit of a game then look for programmes that people had dropped in the halfords under the old wooden flipup seats.
That would be around 1964 ish,
If you include the players that HAVE left Swansea today, including to us, I'm worried as to what's happening over there :-X :-X
Not sure exactly where to post this as there is no thread, as yet, in the Match Day forum, so apologies in advance to mods, please move/delete as necessary
Matt Wilson Twitter Account
#wba's home game with Blues has been moved to 8pm, Friday March 29
Personally, l always liked Steve Bruce as a player, a person and a manager. He is a genuine sort of bloke from a working class background and gives 100% to whatever he does. And for him never to have won a full international cap is, well, criminal.A nice chap, met him a couple of times in the past in pubs around Knowle - always had time for a quick word
Take a look at the short clip in the link below, he's human and has regrets, like most of us I suspect. His honesty I found sincere and touching, we should all take note in my view.
Source: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/av/football/47096901
Personally, l always liked Steve Bruce as a player, a person and a manager. He is a genuine sort of bloke from a working class background and gives 100% to whatever he does. And for him never to have won a full international cap is, well, criminal.
Take a look at the short clip in the link below, he's human and has regrets, like most of us I suspect. His honesty I found sincere and touching, we should all take note in my view.
Source: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/av/football/47096901
Wigan another the strugglers scrambling to stay in the division have bought a slew of Championship journeymen and 35 year old Jonas Olsson.
Overall very few big fees spent most deals were loans and nobody had what might be regarded as a tranfomational window.
The Leeds spymaster has done a poor job today...3 -0 Norwich..
Despite the glum after our result today, there is a long way to go and a lot of football to be played. It ain’t over to the Fat Lady sings as the saying goes :)
Keep your eye on Brentford as well.
I still fancy us to win the league, got a feeling Leeds could really start to fade, maybe even missing out on top 6.
What the hell is going in at Swansea. Relegated, having seeingly not gone crazy in the prem, hardly spent in the summer, yet sold lots of players off, and now, with Potter working miracles and getting them to within touching distance of the play offs, they have tried to sell off even more players.
Swansea fans are relieved they have kept James and Fer, and not as fussed about losing Bony, Carroll and Montero (albeit the latter has caused more annoyance than the first 2), but how have they got in a situation where even parachute payments mean they have to cut costs further? I can only imagine their wage bill and how they structured deals in the prem has come back to bite them.
Villa signing Carroll is a weird one. Smith likes that sort of player, but they already have McGinn, Hourihane, Grealish. Swansea fans are making jokes about the deal as it is a loan that could be made permanent in the summer based on performance. "See you back in the summer then Tom" is a common tweet. Sounds like he is living off his Spurs youth rep.
Sheff Utd and Boro have probably had the more interesting windows. Dowell looks a really good player, and Wilder might squeeze something out of Hogan. Boro with Van La Para and John Obi Mikkel also have proven experience, but i'm not 100% they will massively improve them.
Keep your eye on Brentford as well.😂😂😂😂
I still fancy us to win the league, got a feeling Leeds could really start to fade, maybe even missing out on top 6.
We'd need a run of 5-6 wins, something we've never really threatened to do this season. We just don't win enough games, we turn wins into draws/defeats far too often because of poor game management.
We haven't looked top two all season, too inconsistent, too leggy in midfield. We have some good players but but we also have some players who we should've replaced a couple of years ago. Theres just something missing.....?That's where I am too mate.
We should finish in the play offs which is a decent achievement but I don't think this group are mentally strong enough for the bigger games to get up via the play offs.
We haven't looked top two all season, too inconsistent, too leggy in midfield. We have some good players but but we also have some players who we should've replaced a couple of years ago. Theres just something missing.....?
We should finish in the play offs which is a decent achievement but I don't think this group are mentally strong enough for the bigger games to get up via the play offs.
Of the current top 10 we have only lost to Derby, Boro and Hull, we've beaten Norwich, Sheff Utd, Leeds and Bristol city and drew with Villa and Blues, to me that suggests we are up for the bigger games.
Also only Boro and Norwich have lost less games games than us.
I think I read somewhere, not sure where, that his teams do tend to tail off towards the business end of a season owing to player fatigueparaphrasing, but I remember one quote basically saying “he’d be the greatest manager in the world if seasons were only 18 games.â€
Interesting to note that Pontuss Jansson has spoke today and said that Bielsa methods are making the squad too tired.
He said they were fine until Xmas but since then they just get made to train more if they show signs of tiredness.
You could insert the above to most of Bielsas club career, he has done the same pretty much every club job he has had, they start well then fade which is why as much as he is a good technical coach and his teams are entertaining, maybe his man management costs him as his teams very rarely win something.
Despite managing over 200 games in europe he has never actually won a trophy, i personally hope this is the start of Leeds decline, i would rather pretty much anyone (other than Villa) got promoted ahead of them.
No glory to either. 0-0
Only 1 point
Agreed.
I'm hoping for a really dull and bring game to urine off supporters of both clubs.
If a couple of players pull up with muscle strains and the like then all the better.
Villa are f*****g sh*t.
Controversial goal, apparently the ball was kicked out of the GKs hands.
Villa 0-2 sheff utd
Sharp
Controversial goal, apparently the ball was kicked out of the GKs hands.
I think I read somewhere, not sure where, that his teams do tend to tail off towards the business end of a season owing to player fatigue
Terrible decision, Sharp was initially offside and then clearly kicked the ball out of the keepers hands.
Bar the first 15 minutes Villa had probably been the better team, I can see them coming back into it.
Terrible decision, Sharp was initially offside and then clearly kicked the ball out of the keepers hands.
Bar the first 15 minutes Villa had probably been the better team, I can see them coming back into it.
We need a run like we had when we overtook the dingles in our promotion season
Haha dont think so now
Unfortunately that terrible ref decision could well do us out of automatic come May, not good news for us at all.
Agreed.
I'm hoping for a really dull and boring game to urine off supporters of both clubs.
If a couple of players pull up with muscle strains and the like then all the better.
Dunno what to make of it. Great Sheff Utd have been pegged back but i hate the idea of them building any sort of momentum ahead of next week...
How do they fkin do it? That'd never happen to us we'd be robbed somehow. The luckiest team I've ever known.
could do with boro beating leeds, tomorrow.. and us beating stoke. then it would look far better the table
Caller on WM left after 75 mins and is tearing them to pieces. This is why you stay to the end.
You pay your money, why leave early? In 25 years going to the Albion, I've never once walked out early. I remember us being hammered 5-2 by Swindon, 5-1 by Grimsby, 6-0 by Liverpool. Never walk out on your team.
Caller on WM left after 75 mins and is tearing them to pieces. This is why you stay to the end.
You pay your money, why leave early? In 25 years going to the Albion, I've never once walked out early. I remember us being hammered 5-2 by Swindon, 5-1 by Grimsby, 6-0 by Liverpool. Never walk out on your team.
Caller on WM left after 75 mins and is tearing them to pieces. This is why you stay to the end.
You pay your money, why leave early? In 25 years going to the Albion, I've never once walked out early. I remember us being hammered 5-2 by Swindon, 5-1 by Grimsby, 6-0 by Liverpool. Never walk out on your team.
Ipswich win the Old Farm derby would be a great weekend if that lot happened. :D
any Albion fan wishing the seals well should have his nuts shoved up his own rear end. couldn't care less how they effect our season .Chuckled out loud to that one!
Boro Leeds drawing at half time.6 wins on the bounce? This is Albion you know
If the match is a draw puts automatic back in to our hands since we have Sheffield United and Leeds to play.
6 wins on the bounce and we will be in pole position ;D
Boro winning 1-0If we win our game, we would only be 4 points off Leeds
If we win our game, we would only be 4 points off Leeds
Young Jack Clarke rushed to hospital, sounds like it could be serious but hopefully it’s not and he can make a full recovery and get back on the pitch.
Monk is doing a superb job there with that squad
Ipswich put up no fight in the derby. Norwich flying at the minute
And we are slowly drifting away. :(
Another win for Bristol City tonight, 5 on the bounce so far. Incredible form.
9 on the bounce if you count their 2 fa cup games. They’ve not lost since 24th November either. 15 unbeaten, 11 of those wins.
We'd need a run of 5-6 wins, something we've never really threatened to do this season. We just don't win enough games, we turn wins into draws/defeats far too often because of poor game management.
Have we even won 3 in a row this season? I think we might have done it once, way before Christmas.
After this month we have a much easier run in than the others and hopefully a full fit squad. If we are still 4 points off 2nd I still think we will be 2nd by the end of March.
Leeds have to play us, Bristol, Reading, Millwall and Shef Utd that month to our, Ipswich, Brentford, Swansea, Blues. If the points dif is the same and we beat Leeds I can see us picking up another 2 points over them to pull level in March. Norwich look to have the best run in and I think are shaping up to win the league unless they hit a bad run of form.
If Swansea can get a goal I'd be happy enough if all the games ended as they are.
6 points off top with a game I'm hand against QPR next week. In the words of another member here. It makes the villa game must win. ;)
Sheffield United leading Middlesbrough
The one predictable thing about the Championship is, it is unpredictable at this stage of the campaign
I just knew you'd say that ;) .
Blackburn-MBoro 0 -1 .
Bet that was thrill a minute watching.
Potentially interesting news, Kemar Roofe's currently out with a knee ligament injury.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/47281552
didn't realise we could go top of the league this weekend.
yo predictions are about as good as glossy bog roll.😄
We can't Leeds play Bolton at home :P
yo predictions are about as good as glossy bog roll.😄
God sake 😫 both Leeds and Norwich winning, no luckThat is why we have to win, just to keep in touch.
God sake 😫 both Leeds and Norwich winning, no luck
I suppose the nightmare scenario is in the PlayOffs v Middlesboro.
Leeds losing 1-0
Also Norwich and Boro only level, while Blues and Forest Losing.
Will others incompetence haul us back into it?
Norwich winning..
Don't think anyone needs to worry about Frank Lampard's Derby... ;D
Sheff Utd were pretty awful in that game. What they are is very well organised and well managed. In terms of moving the ball and technical quality they are very limited.You clearly are not of an age to remember the last time when Leeds were a so called big club with a so called world class manager. Personally, hell would freeze over before I wished them any success. Horrible club.
They have to go to Elland Road and I hope they get stuffed. I hope Leeds get top 2 as they are a big club with a world class manager.
The sad thing is not one Blades player jumps out at you that you’d definitely want in the Albion team.
You clearly are not of an age to remember the last time when Leeds were a so called big club with a so called world class manager. Personally, hell would freeze over before I wished them any success. Horrible club.
Apparently Leeds were big in the 1970s under Don Revie. They also got to a European Semi about 2000 before the demise set in. At the end of the day they’ve attracted a very high quality manager which is paying off for them.Another sneering comment about SGM. Let me tell you mate if Jenkins had the balls to let Megson continue last season instead of recruiting Pardew we would not be in the Championship.
I just think Sheff Utd are boring to watch a functional high energy team with no stars playing to a Set system. The 2019 version of our 2002 Megson team.
No one challenged me when I stated no Sheff Utd player would dramatically improve us. I can’t get my head around why we are below them.
Another sneering comment about SGM. Let me tell you mate if Jenkins had the balls to let Megson continue last season instead of recruiting Pardew we would not be in the Championship.
Apparently Leeds were big in the 1970s under Don Revie. They also got to a European Semi about 2000 before the demise set in. At the end of the day they’ve attracted a very high quality manager which is paying off for them.Just cast your mind back to Pulis's baggies and Stoke sides, fitness / organisation / attitude and "tactics" get these right and they can mitigate a lot of the advantages which skill and ability give you.
I just think Sheff Utd are boring to watch a functional high energy team with no stars playing to a Set system. The 2019 version of our 2002 Megson team.
No one challenged me when I stated no Sheff Utd player would dramatically improve us. I can’t get my head around why we are below them.
A super computer has predicted the finishing league positions of the top six
1. Norwich City - 88 points
2. Leeds United - 86 points
3. Sheffield United - 85 points
4. West Brom - 78 points
5. Middlesbrough - 77 points
6. Bristol City - 71 points
So, we would be up against TP’s Borough in the semifinals, a tough challenge, but they are all tough options at this stage
Source: https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/super-computer-predicted-west-brom-15922000
Apparently Leeds were big in the 1970s under Don Revie. They also got to a European Semi about 2000 before the demise set in. At the end of the day they’ve attracted a very high quality manager which is paying off for them.
I just think Sheff Utd are boring to watch a functional high energy team with no stars playing to a Set system. The 2019 version of our 2002 Megson team.
No one challenged me when I stated no Sheff Utd player would dramatically improve us. I can’t get my head around why we are below them.
Bolton game against Millwall on Saturday is under threat unless Bolton can prove they are able to provide adequate safety measures by 1pm Wednesday
Another sneering comment about SGM. Let me tell you mate if Jenkins had the balls to let Megson continue last season instead of recruiting Pardew we would not be in the Championship.
Read all about it.......
'Super computer updates points in duplicate Championship League table shocker'
........ where's my octopus :o ;D ?
Apparently Leeds were big in the 1970s under Don Revie. They also got to a European Semi about 2000 before the demise set in. At the end of the day they’ve attracted a very high quality manager which is paying off for them.I'm not sure you can call them boring with overlapping centre-backs and all that. I'd say Norwood pings it around more effectively than anyone we have....and there's not any striking similarities with Pulis sides which seemed to be suggested above.
I just think Sheff Utd are boring to watch a functional high energy team with no stars playing to a Set system. The 2019 version of our 2002 Megson team.
No one challenged me when I stated no Sheff Utd player would dramatically improve us. I can’t get my head around why we are below them.
Swansea the better team at half time..0-0...Dan James looks a really good player..
1-0 Norwich..😐Expected of the in form home team. :(
Another scumbag running on the pitch attacking a player. I hate Grealish but to run on a pitch and throw a punch is an absolute disgrace.Agreed
Where were the stewards ?
Another scumbag running on the pitch attacking a player. I hate Grealish but to run on a pitch and throw a punch is an absolute disgrace.
Where were the stewards ?
Here is the clip of the Grealish attack. Could have very easilly
Been a knife plunged into his neck.
https://youtu.be/44-WGzmOP2Y (https://youtu.be/44-WGzmOP2Y)
Villa getting momentum just in time, I can see them getting into the playoffs
Former England and Manchester United defender Gary Neville called for Birmingham City to be punished over the attack.
Neville tweeted: "The club are going have to take a huge punishment for this to act as a deterrent in the future. A Points deduction or Empty stadium for 10 games!"
It's a disgrace and the people who have done this should be ashamed. And their families should be embarrassed too.
I don't think a points deduction is fair because the only problem is anyone can do it. There's nothing to stop me donning a Villa shirt, buying a ticket and legging it on their pitch knowing they'd end up being docked points.
These idiots need dealing with severely as individuals. I don't see the fairness in hitting the club with points deduction or games behind closed doors.
Yep. I expect I'll get criticised for saying this but I think fences should be erected at all grounds. If they are not one day it will be an idiot with a knife.
Would need (rightly) plenty of health and safety requirements to ensure ability to easily spill out in case of fire or crush.
Wildly out of touch. You'll never see fencing at English grounds ever again. And rightly so.
I'd venture to suggest that with the Hilsborough trial ongoing ATM you would have to have a pretty thick skin to suggest it at any point in the next few months, after which it will be superceeded by some other contoversey that the pundits and red tops want to stir up for click bait
I don't think you can say that with any certainty.
14 weeks, 10 year ban and £100 fine for that!? Hows that a deterrent, the guy who done Chris Kirkland got 6 months jail years ago.....baffling!
The guy who did Kirkland got 16 weeks I believe. I agree it should have been longer but I guess there are other social / political issues with Jail / prisons that come in to play sadly.
I would punish Blues by closing the stadium for a length of time. It may not be fair, but the hope would be that the situation is then self-policing in future due to knowing you would get shunned by your own, cost you club in refunds etc.
Close it for 3 games and I imagine thats probably half a mill in revenue to the club through refunds and loss of commercial revenue.
I think a points deduction potentially costs other fans and the club a bit too much.
Bolton haven't paid their players, more trouble ahead for them.
FT
Leeds 0-1 Sheffield Utd
Bummer, was hoping for a draw!
Not a bad result if we're still hoping for the autos...
Villa on a real roll now. Aaargh.It’s them, Wednesday, and Preston making the late charge. I’ve suddenly gained a soft spot for the last two. ;)
Villa on a real roll now. Aaargh.
It’s them, Wednesday, and Preston making the late charge. I’ve suddenly gained a soft spot for the last two. ;)
Super Dean Smith on the charge ;DHindsight is a wonderful thing after we beat the vile many of them were calling for smiths head no doubt 4 games later he is seen as a messiah modern football fans clueless.
Doesn't surprise me that he is the one currently doing very well in a job and the Champion of others, our very own Darren, is now out of work having shown too many shortcomings. I really do still wish we had gone for Smith in the summer. It may have been a disaster, we may have been ten points clear at the top of the league right now, no one can say for sure, but I am extremely confident we would be doing far better than we are right now.
Super Dean Smith on the charge ;D
Doesn't surprise me that he is the one currently doing very well in a job and the Champion of others, our very own Darren, is now out of work having shown too many shortcomings. I really do still wish we had gone for Smith in the summer. It may have been a disaster, we may have been ten points clear at the top of the league right now, no one can say for sure, but I am extremely confident we would be doing far better than we are right now.
Can't believe even with the benefit of hindsight anyone thinks this guy is good enough. Please explain his total failure to even 'get by' while Grealish was injured. 13 matches, 13 points.
I'll wait.
Would have thought you'd have loved the old Pulis method of a point a game ;)
Ultimately you were one of many who petitioned for Darren to get the job and he spent 36 games showing he wasn't up to it. Time for you to make the admission of being wrong.
We're above Villa mate, Moore hasn't worked out because of his assistant imo, but he's still done much better than Smith.
Not sure how you can parallel the two to be completely honest. I have always felt with you that you have your standpoint, as I do, but you have always provided logical arguments in support of yours, but I am starting to buy into what others say about you recently.
Moore hasn't worked out because of his assistant. Ok, who wanted him as his assistant? Darren. Who was in charge and could have quite easily either removed him or stopped using what he was telling him to do? Darren. Who had the whole summer to work with the squad and get his message across as well as bring signings in? Darren.
Whatever people opinion on a manager they are only a cog in the system even the best managers need the backing of the board/owner to progress.
The vile have thrown money at Bruce and Smith where possible to give them the best chance I don't think we can say the same for our absent owner.
Thrown money at Smith? :oThey did what they were allowed brought in some good loanee on good money they were handcuffed to a degree by FFP which prevented them from spending bid cash on players.
They signed a goalkeeper and brought in Hause and Mings on loan, with Smith losing Bolasie who would have been on wages to cover both of them. Hardly thrown money at him.
They did what they were allowed brought in some good loanee on good money they were handcuffed to a degree by FFP which prevented them from spending bid cash on players.
They already had a good squad from Bruce time.
So exactly the same as us then?
Won't happen, will be a points deduction like others have received before.
The local Boro rag has gone to town on Pulis for the first time since he has been there. Friend of mine who lives up that way reckons it is as if they were awaiting a green light from the club to do it as the same happened with Karanka who was then gone a week later.
I said it a few years ago with Pulis, other than an initial six month burst where players can see the results improving so buy into his rigid way of training and playing, he is just completely out of touch with the modern game. If we had gotten rid of him in the May when I called for it instead of waiting until November I really believe we would still be a Premier League club.
He needs to leave the game.
The club missed a trick not putting you in charge of hiring and firing Fritzl.
You said it ;)It's been a long time since anyone called me young Frizl I'll take that wherever it comes from ;).
In fairness, most of what I have said about our recruitment has been bang on. I also said that Livermore was bang average when we signed him and look how that panned out, that Rondon was a very good striker despite the slating he took on here and he is now seen as a revelation at Newcastle. Listen to my words young Padawan, I will not steer you wrong.
All I need now is for Marco Silva to win the league next season and I'm flying ;D
The local Boro rag has gone to town on Pulis for the first time since he has been there. Friend of mine who lives up that way reckons it is as if they were awaiting a green light from the club to do it as the same happened with Karanka who was then gone a week later.
I said it a few years ago with Pulis, other than an initial six month burst where players can see the results improving so buy into his rigid way of training and playing, he is just completely out of touch with the modern game. If we had gotten rid of him in the May when I called for it instead of waiting until November I really believe we would still be a Premier League club.
He needs to leave the game.
Similarly if the club had given him until the end of last season we'd still be a Premier League club, in fact there is nothing to say they would have made the correct appointment (see Pardiola) had they done it when you suggested...
The local Boro rag has gone to town on Pulis for the first time since he has been there. Friend of mine who lives up that way reckons it is as if they were awaiting a green light from the club to do it as the same happened with Karanka who was then gone a week later.
I said it a few years ago with Pulis, other than an initial six month burst where players can see the results improving so buy into his rigid way of training and playing, he is just completely out of touch with the modern game. If we had gotten rid of him in the May when I called for it instead of waiting until November I really believe we would still be a Premier League club.
He needs to leave the game.
Would be interesting to see the media reaction if Boro were to sack Pulis before the end of the season, Afterall they are 4th in the league.
Cant imagine they would get the same backlash as we have.
I do feel sorry for the Boro fans, I wouldn't wish a years worth of Pulis football on anyone (other than the Vile/Wolves of course).
Blues handed a 9 point penalty deduction
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/47667742
Hopefully, that will be a manageable deduction. I wouldn’t like to see them relegated as a consequence as I’ve always had a soft spot for the Blues
Seems to me to be a laughable penalty.
A 9 point deduction, no further embargo & no further financial penalties?
Survive the remainder of the season.
Give promotion a push next year with no penalties.
FFP is a load of rubbish to be honest.
FFP has made no difference to level the playing field, its still the richer clubs getting richer and the poorer clubs running a tight ship. Its always setup to help the rich clubs stay at the top.
FFP has made no difference to level the playing field, its still the richer clubs getting richer and the poorer clubs running a tight ship. Its always setup to help the rich clubs stay at the top.
Do us a favour tommorow please Pulis.
We need a Bristol winner.
Swings and bloody roundabouts. Leeds lead 3-2 now.Need to keep winning our games , seen what a bit of pressure has done to Leeds and Blades.
That Leeds goal was painful. Almost a perfect day.I feel totally gutted that leeds won today. For a good while it looked like they had bottled it but once again they've done what they have excelled at this season; late winners. All but resigned to the hard work that the play offs bring and only ourselves to blame. Ipswich at home, brentford at home, wednesday at home, they all come to mind. Dear lord let us dodge villa, that's all i ask haha.
I have so much resentment that we are so far behind. It should not be like this.
We are closer to automatic than before the weekend, we are still in the mix, keep the faith.I love your optimism i really do, but im accepting of the fact its the play offs now. We've been playing keep up all season. Its all about keeping the morale high into the play offs and playing the bloody best we can when the time comes.
We are closer to automatic than before the weekend, we are still in the mix, keep the faith.Slightly less pressure on us too , it's not over yet.
Yup we're technically a point better off than we were Friday afternoon. Just need to keep winning.
It’s all we can do. As the games tick down the pressure mounts on the two in pole position, we have to hope to sneak in the back door...so as to speak.
I have never snuck in the back door....so to speak. ;D :-X
Boro can probably count themselves slightly unlucky on the balance of play. That's 4 defeats on the bounce though.
Anyone know what is officially wrong with MP, nobody at the club even mentions him in injury updates.
Ankle I think they said, should be back in full training this week.Yes ankle tendon is what they said, which sounds a bit worrying really...especially as I think it's the same injury he had and then aggravated it against Ipswich.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/47773297
Steve McClaren given the boot
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/47773297He really does need to hang up his brolly now
Steve McClaren given the boot
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/47773297
Steve McClaren given the boot
Don't want to appear nasty but he is a serial failure.Not really, he won the League cup with Boro and did excellent there, then won the Dutch league with Twente; over-achieving massively on both occasions.
According to the Times online:
The English Football League has decided not to use VAR for next month's Championship play-off final, dubbed the most valuable match in football.
I would have thought that in such a big game as the play off final VAR would have been an essential requirement
According to the Times online:
The English Football League has decided not to use VAR for next month's Championship play-off final, dubbed the most valuable match in football.
I would have thought that in such a big game as the play off final VAR would have been an essential requirement
Doesn't affect the big boys so no-one cares I guess is the reason.
But...In the FA cup.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/47784414
Got to make sure Man City get there one way or another, I mean who wants to watch Brighton v Watford ?
Pulis can’t be far from the sack now.Where will he inflict himself now?
Somedays I absolutely hate football.Just knew those jammy dodgers would win it late on, absolutely knew it.
We miss a pen to equalise and sheff wed miss one to take the lead and then lose in injury time.
You can’t see past villa winning the play offs >:(
Villa 7 on the bounce they are the form team. You watch us get them and hammer us.All good runs come to an end - hopefully theirs will against us!
Smith performing as I expected when he got his feet under the table and his ideas across. Imagine how he will be when he can bring his own players in...
We missed a massive trick in the summer.
James Shan, Dean Smith, Daniel Farke and Jose Gomes are the nominees for March Manager of the month
https://www.efl.com/news/2019/april/sky-bet-championship-manager-of-the-month-nominations/
James Shan gets a special award for working bravery - working with our board and some of the older players!
Unsurprisingly, Smith takes the award.
Presumably he's handed it straight to Jack Grealish?
Why so salty, Jacko? ;D
7 on the spin! What a manager
What about the 10 before that, you know when Jack was injured?
You need to stop living in the past and embrace the managerial brilliance in the present ;)
When he gets results without Grealish I'll acknowledge he's done well. Until then every statistic suggests he's utterly clueless without him.
According to The Telegraph the owners PSG are thinking about buying an English Championship club. Mr Lai please note...
Yep nothing special about either team but consistant and have direction.
Both appointed good managers and are planning for the long term. We had a massive financial and squad ability advantage over both, but we barely have a plan for the next week.
Nothing will happen - expecting some sales at Sheff Wed in the summer - plenty out of contract who will be taken off the wagebill.
In general terms - you cannot have financial fair play and parachute payments at the same time.
It is a ridiculous, unfair concept.
Scrap both of them.
So, all the local media hoohaa, last summer, about the vile going into financial meltdown if they didn’t get promoted this season, was just a tease? As some would say, it’s the hope that kills ya.
just heard tammy abaraham out till end of season pitty it wasnt grealishThey feed off each other.
just heard tammy abaraham out till end of season pitty it wasnt grealish
Dislocated shoulder apparently, but could be back for play offs.Play off final 5weeks Monday , may just make that but can't see him making two leg games if it was a full blown dislocation
"It was always going to be difficult - we've only got two real defenders on the pitch. We're trying to put square pegs in round holes and it really caught us out today."
Guess the manager...
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/48042278So what this means is that things stay as they are and Steve Gibson's proposal for accounts to be made available to external accountants is rejected. Gibson has put the spotlight on Derby, Sheff Weds and Villa so will be interesting to see if anything happens over the next 12 months following Birmingham's deduction - let's face it Blues got off lightly. It would be better for any points deductions to kick in at the start of the following season, even if that club has changed division.
Championship: Clubs vote down EFL spending rules for greater transparency.
According to the Evening Standard, QPR have spoken to big Dave about their managerial vacancy.
So what this means is that things stay as they are and Steve Gibson's proposal for accounts to be made available to external accountants is rejected. Gibson has put the spotlight on Derby, Sheff Weds and Villa so will be interesting to see if anything happens over the next 12 months following Birmingham's deduction - let's face it Blues got off lightly. It would be better for any points deductions to kick in at the start of the following season, even if that club has changed division.
The three clubs eluded to managed to pass their P&S for the last three years hence why no punishment.It's not hypocritical to accept parachute payments. They are perfectly within the rules and if any chairman turned those down, the fans and any shareholders/backers would want them swiftly removed from office.
How they fair next year will be of interest as both Wednesday and Villa will need to make significant savings.
I do find this whole stand from Gibson to be quite laughable - he has called this meeting and even failed to attend it !
His whole stance of preaching for fair play is a bit hypocritical whilst he accepts parachute payments.
He is throwing his toys out the pram because he is regretting appointing that dinosaur.
The sooner FFP and parachute payments are binned off the better.
It's not hypocritical to accept parachute payments. They are perfectly within the rules and if any chairman turned those down, the fans and any shareholders/backers would want them swiftly removed from office.
kicking off at Elland Road - Leeds score after Villa stop playing for an injured player, El Ghazi sent off 3 game ban - Bamford not even touched so probably rescinded , then Leeds let Villa score on the restart - manic - ref lost control
Absolutely disgusting that Leeds were pretty much made to let Villa score. Leeds have no obligation whatsoever to kick the ball out of play because Villa have a man down it was not a head injury.If Villa didn't want to play to the whistle that's their tough luck.No i think it was about right, the key thing was not the injury but more the fact Leeds were deceptive in what they did. They signalled to kick it out but instead carried on playing, which is bad sportsmanship. Ultimately, in the laws of the game, they didn't do much wrong but there has to be a level of sportsmanship, which they haven't met.
The FA need to be all over this you cannot have teams letting the opponents score whatever the circumstances.
Deplorable!
No i think it was about right, the key thing was not the injury but more the fact Leeds were deceptive in what they did. They signalled to kick it out but instead carried on playing, which is bad sportsmanship. Ultimately, in the laws of the game, they didn't do much wrong but there has to be a level of sportsmanship, which they haven't met.
It's completely your opinion, but i'm sticking to mine. I commend Leeds for doing what they did, i think if Leeds hadn't signalled to kick it out, fair enough, you have to play to the whistle, but they tricked them.
Don't agree with a single word of that. You can never, ever excuse a team allowing another to score a goal. It opens up one hell of a can of worms. If letting a team score a goal isn't affecting the result of a game I don't know what is. I repeat Leeds were under no obligation to stop playing.
It's completely your opinion, but i'm sticking to mine. I commend Leeds for doing what they did, i think if Leeds hadn't signalled to kick it out, fair enough, you have to play to the whistle, but they tricked them.
Teams are "tricked" every time someone dives or claims a throw in that's not theirs.If that had been us instead of villa, i bet you would've been a bit incensed no? Effectively, this is a 50/50 split. Half would say play to the whistle (you), half would say the leeds players were deceitful (me). There is no right or wrong, its pretty subjective. I'm glad villa havent won 11 on the bounce here, its broken their stride a little, and thats the best thing to take away from this game.
You play to the whistle, end of, letting another team score is akin to match fixing, however you dress it up. That cannot ever be right.
If that had been us instead of villa, i bet you would've been a bit incensed no? Effectively, this is a 50/50 split. Half would say play to the whistle (you), half would say the leeds players were deceitful (me). There is no right or wrong, its pretty subjective. I'm glad villa havent won 11 on the bounce here, its broken their stride a little, and thats the best thing to take away from this game.
Oh come on haha, i find that hard to believe! Anyway, let's drop this, we're not going to agree haha.
No I wouldn't. It's the principal that's important and what is right, the clubs involved are completely irrelevant.
Oh come on haha, i find that hard to believe!
Bielsa did the right thing in allowing Villa to scoreCan't disagree with any of this!
Football is not a game lauded for its morality, but Villa has kicked the ball out earlier in the match for a Leeds player to receive treatment and it was right that the favour was repaid
The problem wasn’t necessarily that Leeds did not kick the ball out of play, it was more the fact that Roberts brought the game to a stand still as he’s about to kick it out, then changes his mind
The scenes after it were a farce but in terms of sportsmanship it was the right thing to do
El Ghazi should have his red card over turned and Bamford should be banned for three matches for play acting and conning the official - no different to Gayle’s dive against Forest
I don't know why anyone is bothered by this, we let Hull score two the other week.ha, that made me laugh
I’m assuming Bamford now gets a 2 game ban for his part in all of the aftermath?
Wouldn’t fancy our chances currently against any of these teams, could quite easily see Frank Lampard’s Derby or Pulis turning us over as well with the way we are playing at the moment.
If Bamford does get a 2 game ban, the red card shouldn't be recinded, El Gashi did throw an elbow at Bamford, the play acting is irrelevant to El gashi's intent.
Also Mcginn should have seen red for his double footed lunge, & also for an elbow earlier in the game.
If Bamford does get a 2 game ban, the red card shouldn't be recinded, El Gashi did throw an elbow at Bamford, the play acting is irrelevant to El gashi's intent.
Also Mcginn should have seen red for his double footed lunge, & also for an elbow earlier in the game.
Bolton vs Brentford will not be played this week apparently, must raise serious doubts about their game at Forest too. Entirely possible we miss out on automatic promotion by as little as 2 points. :o
Bolton vs Brentford will not be played this week apparently, must raise serious doubts about their game at Forest too. Entirely possible we miss out on automatic promotion by as little as 2 points. :o
Would be 5 wouldn't it?
We'd move to 74 points.
We lost the home game, we'd only move to 77.
My apologies. I thought we had 77 points now but we currently have 80.
Take off three points for our win at Bolton. 77.
Six points taken away from Sheff Utd - currently on 88 so they have 82.
We'd still be five behind. Can't see them losing on the final day either.
My apologies. I thought we had 77 points now but we currently have 80.
Take off three points for our win at Bolton. 77.
Six points taken away from Sheff Utd - currently on 88 so they have 82.
We'd still be five behind. Can't see them losing on the final day either.
Games against Nottingham Forest and Brentford are ON after PFA supply emergency loan to players.Surely this is outside interference. Are they going to do this for every club in financial difficulty in the future?
Surely this is outside interference. Are they going to do this for every club in financial difficulty in the future?
Derby drew 1-1 with Swansea. Opened it right up for 6th place between Derby, Boro and Bristol City.Might be good policy to play the kids against Derby on Sunday to make sure we don't get done by Pulis again in the unlikely event of us eliminating the Vile. Mind you the little buggers would probably win, Leeds lose and Boro' win and we would get Pulis in the first round of play-offs...
Derby drew 1-1 with Swansea. Opened it right up for 6th place between Derby, Boro and Bristol City.
Swansea are definitely ones to watch for next season. We could do worse than trying to prise Potter away in the summer.Yep
Swansea are definitely ones to watch for next season. We could do worse than trying to prise Potter away in the summer.Potter does seem to be doing well. He's backed the Swansea youth and got some pace and energy into the team. I'm afraid we have next to zero chance of landing now as there will be bigger clubs watching his progress.
I put 'as little as' because we might beat Derby and they might lose. Makes you wonder about that Reading team selection... (along with numerous other missed opportunities along the way)
Bolton takeover officially off."Laurence Bassini says he is in control at Bolton"
I'm happy for us to be the underdog for the playoffs,some villa fans think they're already promoted and we are insignificant, I don't care much for their managers attitude either.
I want us to be strong and attack and press high from the ko.
Take the fight to them if we get an early goal watch their fans attitudes then,they are a fickle bunch.
I take us to win both legs.
He's an ugly, corned beef faced, arrogant, deluded tosser.
In his mind they won at our place and didn't lose to Norwich yesterday.
Bellend!
Derby County winger Tom Lawrence will face no further action following allegations of diving against West Bromwich Albion, reports Sky Sports.
Lawrence went over in the box under a challenge from Kyle Bartley to win a penalty in Derby’s 3-1 victory over West Brom on Sunday.
Replays showed minimal contact between the Welsh attacker and Bartley and the incident was referred to The FA.
There were calls for Lawrence to receive the same two-match ban that Dwight Gayle was handed earlier this year after allegedly diving to win a penalty against Nottingham Forest at The Hawthorns.
The FA will take no further action, though, and Lawrence is available to take his place in Frank Lampard’s line-up against Leeds United in the play-offs.
Where the hell is the consistency?
There isn't any. The FA love Frank Lampard. It was a dive pure and simple.
Doesnt affect us so not bothered, hopefully he goes on to score winner v leeds
There isn't any. The FA love Frank Lampard. It was a dive pure and simple.
Always makes you wonder.
I read something on another forum that strikes me as a way around that issue.
If a technical means could be invented to obscure the identities of the game, the stadium and the players involved, then the panel wouldn't be able to bring any prejudice or bias into their decison. Of course, the identities in very high profile matches would be more difficult to keep secret.
Swansea's flying winger Daniel James is on the verge of a £15m deal to Manchester United, according to Sky SportsI didn't rate him when they played us - £15 million isn't much to Man Utd but it's quite a risk considering...
I didn't rate him when they played us - £15 million isn't much to Man Utd but it's quite a risk considering...In this day and age where pace counts £15m would be very worth a punt. He's pretty useful.
Roofe puts Leeds 1 up..say no more....No forward thinking from Albion.
say no more....No forward thinking from Albion.Just waiting for Tyler Roberts to come on and score a second!!!😐
Just waiting for Tyler Roberts to come on and score a second!!!😐
Why do so called Premier League refs get the Championship play-off games? You play 46 games at a certain level/style and then get reffed by a clown when it matters. Not sour grapes it's the same watching the Derby/Leeds game - its a different game in the poncy PL completely.
Why do so called Premier League refs get the Championship play-off games? You play 46 games at a certain level/style and then get reffed by a clown when it matters. Not sour grapes it's the same watching the Derby/Leeds game - its a different game in the poncy PL completely.
I'd fancy the Vile to beat Derby but not Leeds unfortunately
Derby win 4-2. Derby have some useful forwards, but to be fair it could have gone either way.
So its Lampard v Terry at Wembley..
Can’t see past villa going up now :(I wouldn't be so sure. I thought Derby forwards esp Wilson and Mount looked alot sharper and gutsy than Villa's.
Can’t see past villa going up now :(
A Lawrence dive after steer comes out to gather a ball would be heavenly.Brilliant. I've always seriously disliked Leeds as a club. Great to see them fail (again).
Love to see Derby take the pen whilst that scum bag steer is still rolling around like he's been shot.
At least calamity Carson isn't in goal for Derby anymore.
Lampard seems to be quite savvy. He certainly had the measure of us this year and many thought that last nights outcome was a foregone conclusion. He will do his homework on the vile muppets and hopefully beat them in the play off.
I kind of feel sorry for Smith being the forgotten man.....
;D :P
Unfortunately I think he be quite happy for Terry to take the limelight and let himself and O'Kelly concentrate on the gameplan in the background.
Former England and Chelsea captain John Terry, the current Aston Villa assistant boss, is in talks with Middlesbrough about becoming their new manager. (Talksport)
Former England and Chelsea captain John Terry, the current Aston Villa assistant boss, is in talks with Middlesbrough about becoming their new manager. (Talksport)
Exclusive: Middlesbrough to sue Derby over alleged breaches of financial rules
Should be interesting, if successful, will they then go after Vile and will we get promoted by the back door?
Source: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2019/05/24/exclusive-middlesbrough-sue-derby-alleged-breaches-offinancial/amp/?__twitter_impression=true
Don’t be silly, sky want nothing more than to see Villa in the top league.Not as much as WM do
Isn’t it galling to turn Sky Sports on and see long drawn out previews of the Villa v Derby play off. If our Board had got their act together months ago we might have been part of the previews, or more likely, in the Premier League by now.Some of us are used to it. Watching the 78 and 82 FA cup finals (82 LC final) was hard work. I won’t watch this game.
I've read about this previously, but don't understand why other clubs in the EFL didn't "support" Gibsons position at a recent EFL meeting when this was raised.
I am hoping today is going to be a good day for 'Frank Lampards Derby'...…I'll be getting my prayer mat out for Frank and co.
If not then I will console myself to enjoying the weekly maulings the vile will endure next season
I am hoping today is going to be a good day for 'Frank Lampards Derby'...…
If not then I will console myself to enjoying the weekly maulings the vile will endure next season
Anyone heard Smith’s interview ??? ???
He talk about momentum and they are confident after dominating both PO games :-X
He’s proper Villa ain’t he
I'll be getting my prayer mat out for Frank and co.Don't worry about Dean Smith it's all going to end in tears in six months time which ever way the result goes today.
Started to dislike Dean Smith more than Villa the club.
Come on The Rams!Yes come on Derby, please come on Derby, I dont know any neutrals that want viya to win
Yes come on Derby, please come on Derby, I dont know any neutrals that want viya to win
I know I might get pelters for this, but thinking long term, would it be better if villa actually get out of the way in this league? I know the general feeling is wevare going to be nowhere next season anyway, but villa will almost certainly be up there. Whether we like it or not they are a big club in this league
Why?
No Grealish or Abraham, probably lose McGinn too. They are a very very very average side without little Jack.
I'm indifferent, not bothered who wins it now we're out.
I suspect Forest fans are probably as keen for Villa to win as we are for Derby to win. Although Villa have such a capacity to annoy everyone they ever come into contact that is probably not a given.
If the next 75 minutes are like the first 15, can’t see anything other than a vile win
Silver lining, Derby will be less of a threat next year then Villa.
Silver lining, Derby will be less of a threat next year then Villa.
Marriot is exactly the type of player we should be looking to sign. A willing runner with an eye for goal. The polar opposite to Kanu.Exactly , rumour is Derby are struggling to pay Peterborough his full fee.
Tough time to be a Baggie but we'll be back there soon
I called that before we'd even sacked our first serverely out-of-his-depth 'head coach', Villa winning the play offs was a no-brainer. All you need in this league is a good manager. Dean Smith would've won the league with our budget if we'd appointed him when we had the chance and I've been saying it since he was at Brentford.
I called that before we'd even sacked our first serverely out-of-his-depth 'head coach', Villa winning the play offs was a no-brainer. All you need in this league is a good manager. Dean Smith would've won the league with our budget if we'd appointed him when we had the chance and I've been saying it since he was at Brentford.You really wanted that Villa scumbag he would have jumped ship as soon as Bruce got the sack.
So.. after the Jammy Vile scum's promotion, Our confirmed opponents for next season are:
Barnsley
Birmingham City
Blackburn Rovers
Brentford
Bristol City
Cardiff City
Charlton Athletic
Derby County
Fulham
Huddersfield Town
Hull City
Leeds United
Luton Town
Middlesbrough
Millwall
Nottingham Forest
Preston North End
Queens Park Rangers
Reading
Sheffield Wednesday
Stoke City
Swansea City
Wigan Athletic
Initial thoughts?
Derby, Fulham, Notts F, Leeds, Sheff Wed seem like the big threats out of that lot
Bristol, Boro & Stoke could also be threats depending on their summer windows.
So.. after the Jammy Vile scum's promotion, Our confirmed opponents for next season are:You'd have to class Cardiff amongst the threats. Warnock wanted assurances about club intention when he agreed to stay. They have the likes of Bobby Reid and the other Murphy who didn't feature that much in the prem but have proved themselves in the Championship. The complication may be what happens in the dispute between them and Nantes re the Emiliano Sala transfer fee.
Barnsley
Birmingham City
Blackburn Rovers
Brentford
Bristol City
Cardiff City
Charlton Athletic
Derby County
Fulham
Huddersfield Town
Hull City
Leeds United
Luton Town
Middlesbrough
Millwall
Nottingham Forest
Preston North End
Queens Park Rangers
Reading
Sheffield Wednesday
Stoke City
Swansea City
Wigan Athletic
Initial thoughts?
Derby, Fulham, Notts F, Leeds, Sheff Wed seem like the big threats out of that lot
Bristol, Boro & Stoke could also be threats depending on their summer windows.
You'd have to class Cardiff amongst the threats. Warnock wanted assurances about club intention when he agreed to stay. They have the likes of Bobby Reid and the other Murphy who didn't feature that much in the prem but have proved themselves in the Championship. The complication may be what happens in the dispute between them and Nantes re the Emiliano Sala transfer fee.
It is an absolute disgrace that they aren't paying that fee, as he wouldn't have been on that plane if he wasn't their player.You would expect them to have to pay at least the portion of the fee before any add-ons. You would think that any player, especially a major asset would be insured once officially signed and he must have been officially someone's player. They are saying he wasn't properly registered with premier league I believe - yet he was due to be training with Cardiff the following morning. It's a very horrible, tragic, unnecessary event and there remains a sorry mess between the clubs.
You would expect them to have to pay at least the portion of the fee before any add-ons. You would think that any player, especially a major asset would be insured once officially signed and he must have been officially someone's player. They are saying he wasn't properly registered with premier league I believe - yet he was due to be training with Cardiff the following morning. It's a very horrible, tragic, unnecessary event and there remains a sorry mess between the clubs.
I think the Championship is actually stronger next year.
Fulham and Cardiff have been relegated after 1 season. Clubs who do that can often be in a stronger position as they haven't fell in to the trap of having a host of premier league type players who they need to off load. They both still have the cores of the side who got them promotion last year, plus parachute payments. I'd fancy one of them to get promotion next season
Stoke also still have an interesting grouo of players and have already moved quickly to make 3 signings who are due to be announced in the next dew days. There will be financial questions hanging over them now parachute payments are reduced but I would still be looking on them as a threat next season.
As well as that, Boro are always challengers and look likely to have Jokanovic in charge next season, while Leeds will hsve another go with Bielsa.
One side i'd be less worried about is Derby. They have sold their stadium to service their debts and they have around 13 players due for loan return or out of contract next season. They can still hope that Lampard and Morris's Chelsea connections can bail them out, but with the Chelsea transfer ban this summer they might be hesitant to send players out on loan.
I would be very surprised if this ever went to court as I think that the efl rules will state how disputes are resolved and they are responsible for enforcing their own FFP rules.
In the past the rules of football creditors get paid first even at the expense of hmrc have prevailed at court. It will be in their rules and imo the court case will be deemed ultra vires.
The Leeds owner was on about this earlier this week too so I think it is sabre rattling to get the efl to look into this.
I agree with you regarding Cardiff, but I'm not so sure about Fulham. The season they were promoted they had a threadbare squad but were very fortunate with injuries. They also had a top quality and proven manager (for this level at least) in Jokanovic while this time they have the inexperienced Parker. Defensively they were average but the midfield of Cairney/McDonald/Johansen were so good in possession that they eventually wore the opposition wore teams down, often winning matches by the odd goal scored late on. If they hadn't signed Mitrovic in the January window I'm doubtful they would have made the play-offs that year and if they don't manage to hang onto him this summer (which is likely) then I think they could well finish mid-table.
Next season I think the main contenders, along with Albion (as long as they appoint the right manager), will be Cardiff, Leeds, Bristol, Preston, Sheffield Wednesday and possibly Hull.
I'm shocked if this is correct !
In the past the rules of football creditors get paid first even at the expense of hmrc have prevailed at court.
can you quote an example of this?
Fulham and Cardiff have been relegated after 1 season. Clubs who do that can often be in a stronger position as they haven't fell in to the trap of having a host of premier league type players who they need to off load.
I would agree with this and would point to Leeds as the outstanding team next season and also be wary of Bristol City who continue to grow each season.
As a result of the introduction of the Enterprise Act 2002, HMRC [then Customs and Excise and Inland Revenue] lost its preferential creditor status, so it is correct.
You can thank Gordon Brown for that one.
Surprised we haven't really been linked with Johnson to be honest.
Solid championship manager, works to a budget, builds a good young team that try to play football, was linked with us before.
I know there were rumours that he was signing a new deal there but I must admit I was expecting to see him heavily linked here.
Back to our post though, I expect Bristol City to be in or around the playoffs like they are most years.
There aren't really many stand out teams next season which in my opinion makes it a harder league. Can see it being close like it was this year with it not being decided who goes up until the last few games.
Surprised we haven't really been linked with Johnson to be honest.Johnson signed a new 4 year deal about 5/6 days ago.
Solid championship manager, works to a budget, builds a good young team that try to play football, was linked with us before.
I know there were rumours that he was signing a new deal there but I must admit I was expecting to see him heavily linked here.
As a result of the introduction of the Enterprise Act 2002, HMRC [then Customs and Excise and Inland Revenue] lost its preferential creditor status, so it is correct.
You can thank Gordon Brown for that one.
Swansea have named Steve Cooper as their new Head Coach
Compared to this appointment and Woodgate at Boro I feel that we have done rather well.
Compared to this appointment and Woodgate at Boro I feel that we have done rather well.
I conclude, from their appointments, money is in short supply and they may struggle in the transfer market in the current transfer window
Swansea have named Steve Cooper as their new Head Coach
Could be in the Vile or Dingle threads.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/48663773
Aston Villa sign defender Kortney Hause from Wolves.
Neither are Championship sides either unfortunately :D
Garry Monk gone from Blues :o
He did say he wouldn't walk outBeeb (& others) saying he was sacked.
I hope it works out
Those deriding the appointment are usually those who state new coaches never get an opportunity.
A new head coach, not from the recycled mill. Good luck to him.
Beeb (& others) saying he was sacked.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/48682048
An opportunity for Big Dave perhaps...Or maybe return for their previous manager Chris Hughton.
Yeah thats what I mean, by saying he wouldn't walk he forced them to back him or sack himYes, not how I'd read your post initially, good how the same words can mean different things eh?
An opportunity for Big Dave perhaps...
I hope not. Monk was very popular so Big Dave with his backgound and track record would get slaughtered...
Frank Lampard: Chelsea given permission to hold talks with Derby managerfired before the season is over.
fired before the season is over.
fired before the season is over.
Who by? ;)take your pick.
take your pick.
Frank Lampard: Chelsea given permission to hold talks with Derby managerHe’s about to end his managerial career
He’s about to end his managerial career
He will get a decent payoff, but ruin his Chelsea legacy
The sensible move is put Benitez in there for 2 years, then frank once the ban is over , too much too soon for me
Didn't they do that a few years ago and the fans were up in arms about the appointment? Can’t see it work for the fans this time either
Frank Lampard: Chelsea given permission to hold talks with Derby manager
Don’t really get the clamour for this, if you actually look at the facts he did no better this season than the previous manager did last season
Don’t really get the clamour for this, if you actually look at the facts he did no better this season than the previous manager did last season
Don’t really get the clamour for this, if you actually look at the facts he did no better this season than the previous manager did last seasonIf i were a Chelsea supporter, and thank god i'm not, I'd be suspicious they are sweetening them up with Lampard before sticking them with something really nasty and horrible. As the old saying goes ' a good time to bury bad news'
Yep - he actually did quite well considering, finishing 3rd and winning the Europa league. However, lots of their fans hated him due to the Liverpool connection, it was quite bratty really.
Think Jody Morris would be a big asset for Lampard at Chelsea; especially if they are restricted to transfer movements. Will know the vast array of young players that are generally out on loan and may need to be utilised more and probably has a stronger coaching basis than Lampard.
Quite interesting that they dislike Rafa for not being Jose, but he got them to third and won the Europa league.Unless they happen to be questionable billionaires
They also disliked Sarri for not being Lampard or Terry, but he got them to third and won the Europe league.
Chelsea dislike anybody who isn't one of their own.
Gayle to Stoke I heard today.
Gayle to Stoke I heard today.
They have a good chance of pushing for promotion this year. Done some solid business so far.
Blues have sold Che Adams to Southampton.
Gayle to Stoke I heard today.
Adding to Monk and Adams leaving, the club captain Morrison has now left aswell, couldn't agree a deal on a new contract.
Could see us potentially going in for him if its cheap enough.
Philip Cocu to Derby as their new manager is exciting....Bilic, Bielsa and Cocu in the same division :)Only 1 of the 3 will be there at the end of the season, and Johnson at Bristol will impress
Cocu is interesting - absolutely smashed it with PSV but struggled in Turkey. Hopefully for our sake he is a homebird and will struggle with the new climate.Cocu has a good pedigree. Tactical brains behind PSV for many years.
Huddersfield Kit - hoax or genuine?
https://www.htafc.com/news/2019/july/towns-201920-home-kit-is-revealed/ (https://www.htafc.com/news/2019/july/towns-201920-home-kit-is-revealed/)
Huddersfield Kit - hoax or genuine?
https://www.htafc.com/news/2019/july/towns-201920-home-kit-is-revealed/ (https://www.htafc.com/news/2019/july/towns-201920-home-kit-is-revealed/)
They wore it in a friendly last night. Still could be a publicity stunt though.
Rate Knockaert. While I still think Sessegnon will leave, they currently have a fearsome championship side.
On another note, Jude Bellingham, who only a few weeks ago turned 16, scored 2 goals for Blues vs Swindon the other day. I've heard on very, very, very good authority that a couple of months ago he received a very good financial offer from Arsenal, and yet unlike Louis Barry and Morgan Rodgers he has chosen to stay at Blues and sign a 2 year deal.
We maybe need to look at Blues (and maybe Villa and Wolves as well) and work out how, despite producing more England youth internationals than all 3, we still never seem to either a, keep our best kids, or b, help them transition from top youth prospects to fully fledged pros. Blues have had Redmond, Gray and Butland have all generated a good profit for our circus friends.
With the best will in the world Arsenal are not Barcelona and Manchester City.
.........On another note, Jude Bellingham, who only a few weeks ago turned 16, scored 2 goals for Blues vs Swindon the other day. I've heard on very, very, very good authority that a couple of months ago he received a very good financial offer............
It may not all be down to what we are doing wrong and what Blues are doing right. Moving to a 'big' club is a big step when you're 16. It does seem glamorous moving to Barcelona or Man City and Barry and Rogers have obviously seen it that way. Barry may take to it but also he may get home sick and find it difficult.
The pull of staying in the home environment around family and mates may be what's made Bellingham decide to stay at Blues as much as anything blues have done.
It is entirely possible that it is just that Adder, however in recent seasons, Blues have been able to convince Butland, Redmond, Gray and now Bellingham to stay at the club, whereby they have then gone on to get a big fee, where as we have had to lose Brown, Sinclair, Dhanda, Roberts, Rodgers, Barry and Smith in the same period.Rogers is the 2nd highest price out of any of those players, with Roberts being roughly the same price as Nathan Redmond (estimated at 2.5 million). Butland (3.8 ), Gray (4.5) and Redmond (2.3) make up about 2/3 of the money we got from berahino.
It could be a coincidence, or there could be a pattern. It's something for the club to consider at the very least.
Rogers is the 2nd highest price out of any of those players, with Roberts being roughly the same price as Nathan Redmond (estimated at 2.5 million). Butland (3.8 ), Gray (4.5) and Redmond (2.3) make up about 2/3 of the money we got from berahino.
We've made about as much money off of players in that time period as Blues have, I can't speak for the academy players that have been poached but I'd imagine it would be at a similar level if not more as a Cat 2 academy they have even less protection from bigger club academies.
Huddersfield Kit - hoax or genuine?
https://www.htafc.com/news/2019/july/towns-201920-home-kit-is-revealed/ (https://www.htafc.com/news/2019/july/towns-201920-home-kit-is-revealed/)
The 'super computer' has to get it right eventually..... ;D
https://talksport.com/football/efl/578009/championship-2019-20-table-super-computer-predicts-every-club-finish-predicted/
2-2 that was a direct result of p1ssing about at the back.
No, if you watch again, it was poor goalkeeping.
No, if you watch again, it was poor goalkeeping.
Should have saved it. However defender lost it creating a 3 on 3, 30 yards from goal... Don't die on this hill.
But the overplaying at the back led to the unnecessary chance - as bad as the goalkeeping was.
Saw it too many times last season not to recognise it for what it is.
Regardless, would you have been disappointed if Johnson had conceded that goal? He would have had pelters from fans and no defender would have been criticised
Luton getting hammered at the back now after a bright start, looking delicate whenever they're pressed due to their defenders p*ssing about at the back. Looks awfully familiar.
At just over 30 mins into the season, is Graeme Jones the alchemist of the quickest tactics to have ever been found out in the championship? ;D
The defender shouldn't be criticised, the keeper and THE IDIOT TELLING THEM TO DO IT UNNECESSARILY should. Oh wait.
Not related to Jones are you?
Why would you think I’m related? Is it just because I don’t go along with your view?
What I am related to is being rational, fair minded and reasonable enough not to hold a grudge against individuals who I have a negative perspective about.
A goalkeeper is the last line of defence, that was a very easy save to have made, and he didn’t.
There's nothing rational about denying something you're seeing with your own eyes but okay, each to their own.
Penalty to Boro missed. Luton are ragged at the back. They're in for a long couple of months before the axe falls.
Hmm...I've seen that bad style of defending somewhere before which Luton were trying :P
We’re Boro that much better?
Defensively with ball at feet they were far better. Lutons goals came from a cross, a worldy and poor back header in midfield.
Lutons defenders turned over the ball at least 8 times in their own final third
Regardless, would you have been disappointed if Johnson had conceded that goal? He would have had pelters from fans and no defender would have been criticised
Not disputing that the goalkeeping was absolutely dreadful - without a doubt the worst part of the goal.
What I was saying was the overplaying at the back caused the clear chance at goal; something we saw time and time again last season.
That’s how you saw it, I saw it as two teams making errors at the back that lead to goals.
How many times, number, were Boro defenders turned over in the final third?
Don't remember Middlesbrough being caught in possession at the back once.
Then they truly are the Man City of the Championship
No they were just sensible and direct when necessary.
I see Hugill is already off the mark, yet some on here who think they know everything about football were elated when he went to QPR instead. Same situation last season with free transfer David McGoldrick. Some need to wake up and smell the coffee and actually look into a player's history before turning their noses at those that are free or on loan.
You surely didn't expect him to go through the season without scoring?
Stoke are poor, so is Hugill. Bullet dodged.
As an aside is Cyrus Christie any good, what position does he play? Expect he'll be asking to leave Fulham before the deadline after today's events.
With Maupay going to Brighton for £20 million, Brentford are spending £7 million on France under 20 wude forward Mbuemo. I don't know much about him but supposed to be highly rated according to French football twitter.
I see Hugill is already off the mark, yet some on here who think they know everything about football were elated when he went to QPR instead. Same situation last season with free transfer David McGoldrick. Some need to wake up and smell the coffee and actually look into a player's history before turning their noses at those that are free or on loan.
Derby are tonight with what would be a sensational signing - Wayne Rooney. He could make a big impact in this division.
How the hell are Derby going to be able to afford Rooney?? Unless he is dropping his demands due to player/coach role.
I would however love to see him back, still think he would score a lot of goals at Championship level.
It's also being reported that Bristol City have won the race to take Eddie Nketiah on loan from Arsenal. Really like everything i've seen of him when playing for England and Arsenal. Could light the championship up, although Leeds have also been linked I believe.
How the hell are Derby going to be able to afford Rooney?? Unless he is dropping his demands due to player/coach role.
I would however love to see him back, still think he would score a lot of goals at Championship level.
I've heard there's some fiddling with FFP and some help from the sponsors. Their sponsors are 32Red, Rooney's number is 32. Hm.
I've heard there's some fiddling with FFP and some help from the sponsors. Their sponsors are 32Red, Rooney's number is 32. Hm.Then look at the shirt sponsors of the two teams in the champ playoff final
For me, this season the top 6 will be;
WBA, Fulham, Forest, Boro, Cardiff, Leeds.
In which order i'm not sure ..
I'm really surprised Reading are 100-1. They have spent a lot of money this window and have bought in some real quality. I'd have them as dark horses for the play offs. If their loan army click they won't be anywhere near the bottom 6.
Also on Brentford, the loss of Maupay is possibly a killer, as i'm not convinced they have replaced the goals, but they have bought in Pontus Jansson who is one of the best defenders in the league, while Mbuemo is supposed to be one of the top young French talents on the market.
Both of those 2 could creep into the play off picture.
No Sam Field in the Charlton squad again
Reading missed a late penalty today which would have seen them beat early season favourites Cardiff 4-0. That 100-1 odds look a bit silly now. They possibly have some squad depth issues but with their summer signings, especially Puscas who scored 2 today, I think they will be part of the play off race.
Reading missed a late penalty today which would have seen them beat early season favourites Cardiff 4-0. That 100-1 odds look a bit silly now. They possibly have some squad depth issues but with their summer signings, especially Puscas who scored 2 today, I think they will be part of the play off race.
if the FA are making them play Tuesday, I think we must have a good chance wednesday?
Like the decent promoted Premier League teams are dangerous at home early season, relegated sides often suffer a hangover early season especially away from home. Reading have lost their other 2 matches and will likely lose on Tuesday. 100 to 1 for promotion seems about right.
if the FA are making them play Tuesday, I think we must have a good chance wednesday?
Middlesborough may need to recall Pulis to get them back up. :o
Middlesborough may need to recall Pulis to get them back up. :o
There are a few at Stoke suggesting the same.......a lot against as well but he couldnt do any worse at the moment.
There are a few at Stoke suggesting the same.......a lot against as well but he couldnt do any worse at the moment.As long as we've played Stoke at least once, before he re-joins.
Just looking at who could be our main promotion rivals this season (yep, I've got us down as being up there too ).
I think Leeds and Fulham are the main ones. But I can see Forest, Swansea, Sheff Wed., Bristol City, QPR and MBoro being up there. Give or take one or two of those.
Speaking of managerial Achilles Heels, Luton are losing again. This time at Hillsborough.Watch the goal...caught out when the keeper tried to roll it out short 😂😂
Watch the goal...caught out when the keeper tried to roll it out short 😂😂
Yes, that was not lost on me. When will Jones ever learn??
Yes, that was not lost on me. When will Jones ever learn??
Think Fulham will be top 2.
Teamwise its very strong for this division, Parker even though he's inexperienced he should be able to steer them to a top 2 finish. Mitrovic, Caveliro, Knockhaert, Cairney, Johansen, Arter are all good players for this division. Seems a similar scenario to us last year in terms of squad and manager but I don't think they have an assistance coach like Jones ;D
Luton will go down if they don't change the way they play which we know from experience, they wont.
Couple of more bad results for Stoke and I can see them getting rid of their manager.
Win tonight for us could see us go top, although I think it will be a tough game against a decent Reading team.
Prediction: Stoke manager back in charge at Luton by November.
and how about the capped one called back to Stoke to prevent relegation?If so, hope its after we've played them.
and how about the capped one called back to Stoke to prevent relegation?
Leko and Field have started for CharltonLeko with an assist. Apparently playing well.
Fulham and Leeds clearly the danger sides in this division, while Swansea also seem to have found some cutting edge in this early stage.
Hoping we can be the slightly late bloomers like Norwich last season, but will be tough to challenge top two with how good Fulham and Leeds look so far.
Leeds were like this last season though and had a colossal melt-down later on. One theory which has always followed Bielsa is that his football is too energetic for his players to keep up with throughout an entire season which I hope is true.
Fulham and Leeds clearly the danger sides in this division, while Swansea also seem to have found some cutting edge in this early stage.Still September, October, November, December, January, February,March,April and May remaining. I Hope that’s enough time for us, and others, to prove you wrong. ;D
Hoping we can be the slightly late bloomers like Norwich last season, but will be tough to challenge top two with how good Fulham and Leeds look so far.
And also, Leeds seem to have done this every season for the past 5 or 6 years!Maybe if the season ends in a couple of weeks. :P
Fulham's team is excellent and i see them winning the league.
Fulham complete the most passes last night with Leeds the us second and third. Not impressive in itself until you consider Fulham completed about the same as us and Leeds combined.
Probably a championship record I’d have thought
From the early fixtures I see maybe 3 teams who are pretty certain to be in a relegation struggle, Wigan, Barnsley and Stoke. Even then, if Stoke replace Jones in the near future, they may climb out of it with the players they've got.
At the same time, only a few clubs look definite promotion candidates, Leeds, Fulham and maybe Bristol City and Swansea.
There's seems to be a very large group of clubs in between.
For me, the top half in order:
Leeds
WBA
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Bristol
Derby
Cardiff
Fulham
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Forest
Huddersfield
Middlesbrough
Brentford
Sheffield Wed.
QPR
and how about the capped one called back to Stoke to prevent relegation?
the stoke situation is tailor made for TP - they would be mad not to give in to the temptation.
Looks like Garry Monk is set to be appointed the new manager at Sheffield Wednesday.sounds like a good move for both parties to me.
the stoke situation is tailor made for TP - they would be mad not to give in to the temptation.I reckon he's sitting watching his phone right now
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-derbyshire-49841762
What a mess. It's looking properly weird at Derby, big name manager appointed in the summer. Rooney signed but not til January and obviously just a publicity stunt with unseemly gambling connotations. underwhelming start to their season and now this? All very odd.
Derby fans now talking about relegation battle.
I think it's a possibility without Keogh, he is like their Olsson was to us - a leader and rock at the back and now he is out for the season.
Watching them a few times this year they looked poor at times and I'd probably blame that on Cocu who doesn't win enough home games. We probably played our worst performance at their place and still drew, they just lack creativity.
I think Rooney coming in will help them but even still a few years in the MLS and possible lack of interest will have softened his impact.
Rooney will have lumps kicked out of him for fun in this league, he is known hot head. I'm not convinced he is going to be that great at all.
I don’t think people will kick lumps out of him at all. One or two might try but I think most will show him respect, and as he can handle himself just fine. That’s not to say he will be a success, but I don’t think it will be he because he is bullied.
I wish we could have Rooney for half the season
Agree, any player who can handle the physicality of the Premier League at age 16 is going to be fine as a grown man in the championship - the english youth system is famous (or infamous according to some) for going for brawn over brains and Rooney is typical of that.
One thing I would say though is that I think he's fell out of love with the game. He moved to Everton to play for his boyhood club and did quite well, then 1 year on he chose USA. Then he started moaning over there and seems sick of it. I think he will be ok for them without being a world-beater, but you'd think he'd have huge wages which will be a waste - even if it is funded by a loophole.
I wish we could have Rooney for half the seasonI don't. It's only because Mrs Rooney wants him on a tight leash, he'll just use the Derby wages to pay the school fees for a few years and build another swimming pool. More fool Derby.
There are some whats app messages floating around, supposedly showing the aftermath of the Derby crash. I'm not entirely convinced they are true, but if they are the injuries look career-ending and aledged class A drug use.
I obviously can't verify if they are real.
Not sure how much longer Stoke can keep faith with Nathan Jones. They have spent a lot of money and relegation to league 1 could easily result in some financial difficulties.
Shocked by Forest. Poorly run club but now top of the league. Didn't see that coming at the start of the season.
Fantastic results for us today with Swansea drawing and Leeds losing.
Top of the league ;D
I decided to have a little bet on Reading pulling one back at 80 minutes. Best £2 spent today. ;DThe Oatcake has a West Bromwich Albion thread, with Stokies throwing envious glances in our direction.
Not overly impressed with Leeds apart from their abilty to break quick, dont give them too much respect i say. i dont think they will go up this season
I think they will go up. Fast, full of energy and not afraid to mix it. Like us however, they have a problem with goal scorers. Bamford isn't one that's for sureI agree, think they looked very good going forward and defended brilliantly. They will be top 4 for me, probably top 2.
If you fancy any other team than Leeds to win the league this season, and like a punt, you are getting fantastic value at the bookies just now. They are pricing Leeds at about even money, which is completely ridiculous and just plain wrong.
If the allegations are true that Leeds actually had written racist instructions passed around to target Leko and try and get him sent off, they should be seriously punished for it.
what allegations? where did you get this from?There are non
what allegations? where did you get this from?allegations came from a writer on a Charlton site (i think Vital Sports, not sure) and has been deleted.
Neil Harris has left Millwall... :-\
Bit of a surprise :o
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/amp/football/49923743
Only lost 3 league games and have beaten Wednesday and PNE (plus came from behind to win in the EFL cup... >:()
Just looking at who could be our main promotion rivals this season (yep, I've got us down as being up there too ).
I think Leeds and Fulham are the main ones. But I can see Forest, Swansea, Sheff Wed., Bristol City, QPR and MBoro being up there. Give or take one or two of those.
From my early season prediction for our main promotion rivals, I would still stick with 6 out of the 8 of the above (Leeds, Fulham, Forest, Swansea, Bristol City and QPR).
It's vital though that we claim one of the 2 top spots, as once you're in the Play-Offs, it's a lottery. Depends on form on the day.
Of the above, I suppose Leeds have got to be our strongest rival. Bisela is obviously a decent coach who has them very thoroughly and professionally organised. Still, our coach isn't bad either..... ;)
Millwall are in advanced talks with Gary Rowett which could see the former Birmingham City, Derby County and Stoke City boss become their new manager.
That does seem like a perfect fit. Backs to the wall manager taking over a dogged team devoid of quality.
Sounds thrilling when you say it like that !
Went to Fulham vs Luton
Enjoyed watching Graham jones lose
Mcmanaman, Stefan johansen, Martin crane and Izzy brown all on show
One of the funniest things I’ve seen in football, Luton fans giving some hand signals to a section of the Fulham fans, Fulham fan gets up.....walks across towards them .....and shouts “sit downâ€
Modern hooligans eh ?
Maybe its a class thing. Fulham fans had a reputation as being a lot of chaps working in the Stock Exchange in the City. Don't know if its still true. Certainly, if you wanted to buy a flat anywhere in the Fulham area, you'd need a healthy bank balance.
Stumbled across this last night, proper tickled me ;D .
https://twitter.com/FootballFanCast/status/1187105478372974594
Stumbled across this last night, proper tickled me ;D .
https://twitter.com/FootballFanCast/status/1187105478372974594
Yes, Swansea's 1 point from the last 3 games suggests they may be tailing off from an unexpectedly good start.
Most would probably still say it should be ourselves, Leeds and Fulham fighting it out for top two. Fulham form is a bit erratic but they have Mitrovic on 11 goals and Cairney with goals and assists and a fair bit of other talent also.
What would we give for a striker with 11 goals ? Guess that's what £20m gets you.
These last two rounds have been typical Championship some of the better teams have thrown in shocking performances. Only Brentford have picked up maximum points and only Forest have lost both games. Hence why everything is so tight at the top and nobody has been cut adrift at the bottom.
Who are the 'better' teams though? To a certain extent league position at this stage doesn't necessarily mean you are one of the better teams. A lot of people seemed to assume Swansea were going to be a main competitor throughout the season, but they always looked no better than a mid-table side to me.
The last couple of weeks I've seen people stating Forest were 'nailed on' for top 6, when they look no better than another 10 sides in the league.
The reality is that there is little difference between the majority of teams bar perhaps us, Fulham and Leeds. My guess is that the points total needed for a top 6 place this season will be on the low side.
It was about now last year Narwch really got going, I wonder if anyone unfancied will do the same this year?
Hull, Brentford, Blues???Brentford won 3 in a row.
Hull, Brentford, Blues???
No one putting in the shout for Stoke again? No?
😂
Update: Derby have terminated Richard Keogh's contract. He has the right to appeal the decision.
I’m intrigued by this.
How can they treat Keogh like this but not treat Lawrence and Bennett in the same way? If it’s gross misconduct for one it must surely be for all? Perhaps more so for the two who have been convicted of a criminal offence?
Obviously we don’t know all the facts but on the face of it have they sacked him just because he was the only one who got a serious injury?
I think the size of his salary £1.3m a year and that he is unlikely to play again this season and most of next, might be the motive.
They need the money to pay Fatty Rooney, so Keogh takes the rap as he would probably never play for them again anyway. The other 2 are still assets. Pretty low if you ask me.
I don’t know but I suspect that they are differentiating by “ putting colleagues in danger†ie Keogh was the driver/ initiator
I think he was just a passenger, maybe as the club captain they are concerned he went along with it all instead of acting a bit more responsible but will be surprised if he just lets it go.
My own take. All three players were negligent. The other two still have value to the club as they are capable of fulfilling their primary function of playing football while Keogh; with his injury is of no value. The injury being linked to a self-inflicted piece of negligence; even if it could be deemed to be lower than the two others who were drunk-driving is the reason he is sacked.
I think that’s the point though- if he has carried out a hazardous activity then so have the other two (perhaps more so as theirs would be hazardous not only to themselves but to the general public).
The overall point is whilst we can all understand the reasons why the club would want to sack him and keep the other two, how can they legally treat him differently and sack him without sacking the others? As has been said, perhaps there is something else we don’t know- and any appeal may shed some light on that!
While football is an odd and peculiar world where breach of contract is not infrequent but generally the industry settles the issue by paying up players contracts so there is no financial loss, in the absence of loss there is little or no point for players to sue for breach.
This is different Derby have breached the contract by offering Keogh reduced terms and then terminated the contract by reason of gross misconduct. In isolation they have a solid case. Firstly the incident occurred following a club sponsored evening out so it is deemed to be in the work place. Secondly Keogh's actions could be deemed to be reckless and the consequences have resulted in the contract being frustrated through his injury. Thirdly Derby could also argue that his actions damaged the reputation of the club.
I'm hearing Nathan Jones is about to be sacked before our game...
Bristol City currently a goal to the good against Barnsley.
If they win, they go top of the division.
Come on Barnsley!
How can they go top unless they win something like 7-0
How can they go top unless they win something like 7-0
They only need 6 in the last 20mis or so now ;D
:o
Yes Barnsley, thanks for the favour!
They're very tricky under their new manager, drawing with us, Bristol and beating Swansea. Thankfully results have been going for us lately but we have to help ourselves on Monday.This is what I have been saying to quite few friends. (btw, I do have a couple ::))
Preston beat Charlton and tbh showed how to close out a game with 7 minutes stoppage time. Kept a clean sheet to boot and Charlton were pretty ineffective. Not a great game but away from home, clean sheet and 3 points is a great result against a fellow challenger
Cardiff and Colin go their separate ways. Think that’s the last we’ll see of him in a dugout.
Cardiff and Colin go their separate ways. Think that’s the last we’ll see of him in a dugout.
As expected, Richard Keogh has this evening submitted a formal appeal against his dismissal by Derby for gross misconduct. Keogh has the backing of the PFA and is strongly opposing his sacking
Well who would have thought?
Leeds scored in the final minutes. >:(
GakI am thick...
I am thick...
Gak?
Leeds are the best side in the league if we can keep with them we won't be far off come May.
Leeds are the best side in the league if we can keep with them we won't be far off come May.they are not. We are by a long way. Are you on a wind up
I still feel we're the best side, and by some distance, not sure there is much between Leeds and Fulham in the race for 2nd best.
Fulham worry me the most, so much individual quality and Parker isn't doing anywhere near as bad as I was hoping. Leeds have just scraped 2 wins against dross teams, they've picked up a couple of injuries as well.This is also early in the season where Bielsa's teams tend to excel. we'll see in March if Leeds implode and drop off again.
Fulham worry me the most, so much individual quality and Parker isn't doing anywhere near as bad as I was hoping. Leeds have just scraped 2 wins against dross teams, they've picked up a couple of injuries as well.One of those so called dross sides we couldn't even put away at home!
Just realised Leeds won last night away at Reading and went top.We won. Sleep peacefully.
We need to win tonight!
So after 18 games we have amassed 39 points.Just saying wrongly...………
so we need 36 more points to get the same number of points that 6th place playoff team got last season.
we need 60 more points to get to last seasons auto promotion team { 99}
We have 28 games left to go.
Just saying....
The top 4 now has a more expected look that could continue most of the season, ourselves, Leeds, Fulham, Forest.Forest and Fulham both on a bit of a roll now, would quite like Swansea to do Fulham tomorrow
Hey. Timdon, your right mate, I was looking at the season wolves went up., its a little easier for us then.
But still 28 to go
I think injuries and suspensions will play a large role in who ends up where.
Do Fulham and Forest have the strength in depth to really compete if they get injuries and suspensions?
I do think we have the strongest squad in the league and have real competition for places (with the exception maybe being up front) and out of the current top 4 look the most able to deal with injuries and suspensions.
Loans and potential loan returnees may also play a large role.
Talking of which there's a rumour attributed to the Athletic doing the rounds.
It regards Gayle heading to Forest.
Swansea got one back.
With the spare Saturday afternoon I'm going to take the opportunity to watch the Charlton game, fancy them to win as I feel Sheffield Wednesday are a poor side.
Hissy fit leeds fans :D
quote from a leeds fanJust go on there and tell them the big clubs always get the decisions. They should remember that from their league 1 days. ;)
Tbf WBA fans know they have players who have dived to gain points this season, they have a thread about it.
Pereira did this vs Huddersfield! !! :lol:
And vs Derby Pereira dived to win a pen to save a point.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4sLEDhVvCZQ
At about the 5minute mark.
Their fans know it, many dont condone it but is what it is.
They should be 4 points down.
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Huddersfield v Leeds potential banana skin here for Leeds
Local derby and the Cowleys have got Huddersfield better at the back, a draw wouldn't surprise me.
When does the goalkeeper go before the FA? Here’s hoping for a long ban if the racism charge is upheld
Fulham lost, good stuff.Got a bit tasty at the end according to SSN
I celebrated that second Bristol goal like it was one of ours!Most people can see what talent there is in the Fulham squad, but at the same time, I think Bristol could be dark horses. Them and Notts Forest. I don't think Preston have enough in their squad to keep going.
Apart from Leeds, not a bad set of results for us today
We're streets ahead of Leeds, and everyone else.You are straying very close to what is acceptable. Please, for all our sakes, don't cross the line and predict that we will win the league.
You are straying very close to what is acceptable. Please, for all our sakes, don't cross the line and predict that we will win the league.
We will win the league by at least 8 points.
You are a very very naughty boy.
We will win the league by at least 8 points.
Only a viler would dare say that in December.
We will win the league by at least 8 points.
We will win the league by at least 8 points.
Oh good Lord, he went there
Just for fun guys,
How are our points total so far compared to wolves promotion season?
Watching the Leeds game. They're on top, but they don't dominate sides like us. Still 0-0.Refs giving them everything, should have had a yellow for that foul on Bowen.
Almost 1-1 and then Leeds race to the other end and make it 2-0
Preston players still going on about controversial penalty - get over it
Bamford for me definitely fouled Hull keeper before Alioski scored. Plus a lucky og
Who was the nobber next to Nugent who said they were unlucky not to win against us?
Huntington, I spat my beer out when he said that, so delusional ;D ;D
We will win the league by at least 8 points.
Leeds fans do seem to have been a bit obsessed by us on social media in recent weeks, but looking at the league table, you do have to wonder why.
They have just gone 11 points clear of third, with us odds on to be either 11 or 13 points clear ourselves tomorrow.
We are both p****** this league so should be laughing together really.
Leeds 2-0 now >:(
Leeds hanging on.
Cardiff just had a bloke sent off :(
Having seen the Bamford "penalty" against Cardiff it reminded me of Edwards at Preston. Wonder if Leeds fans are talking about cheating?
How the Championship is predicted to finish after West Brom win but Leeds United and Bristol City slip up
After recent predictions,of you know what that proved to be inaccurate,I'd take this with a pinch of salt, but I'd take 2nd and it is only Bristol Live
Source: https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/how-championship-predicted-finish-after-3646249 (https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/how-championship-predicted-finish-after-3646249)
Anyone with hopes that certain teams will be relegated?After watching them tonight this will probably happen, they are dire and looked poor against a weak Boro side. Not even in a position where the transfer window will help because I think of FFP.
Stoke for one from me.
After watching them tonight this will probably happen, they are dire and looked poor against a weak Boro side. Not even in a position where the transfer window will help because I think of FFP.
I read that if we take another 37 points other than Leeds no one will be able to catch us unless they get at least 50 points second half of the season. 87 points will almost certainly get us promoted.
Ah yes I remember it well.
Joy unrestrained
I still think there is huge room for improvement in our side and I also don’t think we have been as dominant in the league as our points total suggests so I’m not counting any chickens yet.Unfortunately I feel the same way.
I‘ve a horrible feeling about both the Barnsley and Leeds games.
Unfortunately I feel the same way.
We haven't won away at Barnsley in a competitive fixture since 1948 :-X .Now you tell me!
Not sure why you both feel that way. We dropped points on Saturday against a team who were well prepared and really slick and good to watch - no shame in that, just a slight reality check. Whilst we were perhaps not at our best after the initial realisation that they were useful we matched them; lucky not to be a couple down in the first half, but we finished the stronger and could have nicked it.
Personally I think Barnsley will do all they can not to play football, and I expect Leeds to be as lively as Brentford, with us edging it. I am confident of us getting something from both.
Have you forgotten Middlesborough in between your games of doom?
70 minsI went to the match tonight
Blackburn 0-0 Wigan
Bradley Dack is stretchered from the field to applause from both sets of fans. He's been a stellar player in Blackburn's line-up in recent seasons so hopefully it's not too serious.
If he was on our January shopping list, he could be off it now
Preston Schooling Leeds 1-0...
Tbf neither Clarke nor Nketiah have been massive players for them for but certainly lowers the squad quality in terms of depth. Hernandez out for a month too.
1-1, been coming. Draw is what i wanted.
Yep, that would be the best result for us I think
52 mins
Fulham 0-2 Reading
Is Michael hector from Chelsea any good? I know he's playing for Fulham from now on. Played for Sheff Wednesday on loan last year.
Fulhams leaky defence is keeping them away at the moment, just hoping he's not going to solve their problems for them.
My Wednesday pals were raving about him last season.
They wanted to sign him permanently but didn’t have the funds to do so
Booo!
He's made a permanent switch to Fulham in the summer and eligible to play from now on. Think they paid about £8m. I know he never made an appearance at Chesea so no idea on the guy.
I think it was agreed in the summer but Brentford now have another very highly rated young striker - Halil Dervisoglu.
It will be interesting to see how he gets on.
Steven Fletcher stretched off after suffering what looks like a painful knee injury. The way Sheff Wed fans are talking, he was vital to their attack. They are saying it could be season defining.
Steven Fletcher stretched off after suffering what looks like a painful knee injury. The way Sheff Wed fans are talking, he was vital to their attack. They are saying it could be season defining.
They will consider offers of £70m for Traore!Doubt if they will be doing much in the way of considering then.
Scott Sinclair signs for Preston for 2 1/2 years. 30 years of age now, but he was dynamite for Swansea when in the championship, did okay(ish) at Villa and had a good time at Celtic as well.
For a low fee, seems a really good for for Preston. Could be one of those signings that works out well. Fingers crossed with him starting his career so early, he has burnt out a bit too young.
Scott Sinclair signs for Preston for 2 1/2 years. 30 years of age now, but he was dynamite for Swansea when in the championship, did okay(ish) at Villa and had a good time at Celtic as well.
For a low fee, seems a really good for for Preston. Could be one of those signings that works out well. Fingers crossed with him starting his career so early, he has burnt out a bit too young.
Scott Sinclair signs for Preston for 2 1/2 years. 30 years of age now, but he was dynamite for Swansea when in the championship, did okay(ish) at Villa and had a good time at Celtic as well.[/b]
For a low fee, seems a really good for for Preston. Could be one of those signings that works out well. Fingers crossed with him starting his career so early, he has burnt out a bit too young.
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Mate, you would do the same if you had a hard days training and then have to go home to Helen Flanaghan……...
Just imagine going home to Helen flanaghan though :P :-* ;D
Short memory? You neglect to mention his time with us...
Didn't mentioned a s*** load of other clubs too.
Mentioned Swansea as it was the same level he is playing at now, while villa and celtic were his last 2 clubs and where he seemed to find a bit more form again.
Looks like Smith Rowe is going to Huddersfield if reports are to be believed.
Yes but of all your anecdotal evidence the vast bulk of it would (should) have come watching the useless waster in an Albion shirt.
Brentford 2 nil up...we can't afford any slips ups..First was off a free kick that shouldn’t have been given as there was a clear foul on the QPR defender prior.
che adams to leeds, Gayle to Forrest i am hearing
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Ear to the ground mate?
Like it ;)
che adams to leeds, Gayle to Forrest i am hearing
Brentford now working on a deal to bring Jonathan Okita in from the Netherlands. If we were linked I wouldn't be fussed by him going on his goal scoring record, but Brentford have a habit of signing very good strikers from the continent who are well suited to the championship.
If we had a good couple of scouts or representatives in Europe, it would save us a bucketload in transfer fees later after they have been discoverd by the English market.
It seems like Slaven and his Croat assistants are our sole representatives in Europe.
I saw this thread on twitter from 2nd teir podcast concerning Derby County
Leeds 1 nil down..QPR player handled twice in the box but goal given..
Dive by Bamford to win a pen and it's saved :D :D
A|ll these other teams failures count for nothing when we can't peform how we need to and get the results we need to. We should be looking to ourselves rather than putting our promotion hopes in the hands of other teams.Like the advert said, every little helps !!
Forest win their game in hand they are only 2 points off Leeds
I can't see them lasting tbh.Me either
All the teams below us and Leeds seem to be inconsistent. At various times Fulham, Brentford, Forest, Sheff Wed, Charlton, Preston, QPR and Bristol City have all threatened to catch us, and then they have a couple of bad results.Hope we can keep a bit of clear water between us and the lot of them, but also they all stay in the hunt for the playoffs so they all take points off each other
2 key rivals in chasing pack are playing today. Fulham are at Charlton and Notts Forest are home to Reading. You can see the gap closing more.
Could be 53,52,51,50 points in the top 4 :o gap gone :o
Stoke beat Swansea which helps us again slightly, another top 6 team dropped points.
Ream has been sent off for Fulham (straight red). I don't know how good he is, but that is a blow to their side and possible table position.3 game suspension
3 game suspension
Nitro ice out for the season and knockaert our currently with injury
That’s a big blow for them
Boateng bloke officially signed for Leeds.
3-2 now...😟
Freeman's been told he can't leave.
Gaetan Bong signs for Notts Forest from Brighton. Fairly solid centre half.......
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Looks like we're finally going to get to see him in the championship. Hull are signing him to replace Bowen/Grosicki.
James Chester Villa to Stoke for the rest of the season on loan
Rooney has Derby ticking along nicely.. 2-0 after 20 mins..
He looks fatter than everYanks do massive McDonalds.
3-0...top free kick from Rooney..
Fat, but he still has quality, especially with free kicksFabulous through ball for Bogle to score the 4th too...like you say ..overweight but stand off him like Stoke have and the result is there for all to see...
Leeds losing...
Our run of games in February are a daunting prospect
https://streamja.com/omNkWhat else do you suggest?
So is this an own goal?
What else do you suggest?
Draw in that game would be the best result
Tafazolli goal...
would it have gone in if the Keeper hadn't touched it?
Birmingham equalise at Bristol City 24 mins. The first goal Bristol have conceded in five games
Decent game.
Gary Gardner best player on the pitch so far
Glad Blues did us a big favour tonight, but alarming to remember that the side in 6th place tonight, having just lost, are still only 6 ppints behind us. We had a chance to open up a 15 point gap on third and yet now we are a few losses away from dropping outside the play off places.
Sunday's game is must win.
No game is a must win unless there's no way back from not winning.
After we beat Blues we were 12 points clear of third and 14 points clear of 7th. 8 games on we are now 4 points clear of third and 9 points clear of 7th. Because of our superior goal difference we would have to lose our next 4 and Preston win their next 4 and even then we might still not slip out of the play-offs depending on how other teams below us perform over that period.
Even only 5 points from the next 5 matches followed by beating Wigan at home at the end of the month would still keep us within a couple of points off automatic at worst.
As long as 1 of fulham/Brentford drop points then not to shabby
Winning last week was probably the worst result of the last 6 weeks.
Papers over the cracks imo, and means nothing will change in the spine of the team. Hugely reliant on the new recruits now.
Brentford vs Leeds tommorow. Think I'd like anything but a Brentford win.
Brentford vs Leeds tommorow. Think I'd like anything but a Brentford win.Think I agree, a draw probably best for us, but Brentford's momentum worries me, they just keep edging wins
Leeds are gone. We need to stay ahead of one of Brentford and Fulham.
If things stay as they are it’s a great night for us
I hope you ain't jinxed it chap
Great results.No, if Fulham beat Millwall and we lose, there's one point between us and Fulham
Worst case after tomorrow we're 3 ahead of second. Best case we're 7!
Whatever Fulham's result away at Milwall tomorrow, a win tomorrow would see us a minimum of 6 clear of third again. Great night with the perfect results all round.
Come on Milwall tomorrow for the clean sweep.
Lamouchi is an idiot. They HAVE to beat us now after resting their first team.
That may suit us.. open the game up..
That may suit us.. open the game up..
Fulham have had the standout squad from day one and I remember being p issed when they took knockheart on loan too. It's a shame the Mitrovic injury was not as bad as first thought as he is the best striker in this division.
The novice Parker seems to have got the measure of this division now and shored up his defence and is now getting the one Nils at Blackburn that promotions are built on.
I hope they lose tonight, but long term I hope we are going up with them as I think they will definitely be in the top two as they have the core of the players that went up a couple of seasons ago.
Regarding Leeds, the guy Augustin they took on loan has a bad boy image of kicking off from what I was reading about him in a magazine last year, so hopefully that will continue.
Reading will be very difficult tonight imo, as their new manager is getting a tune out of them now and on their day their forwards can be dangerous.
If we play like we did at Millwall we have a great chance though to bring all 3 points home.
Forest on Saturday will be more difficult as they rested 5 players last night and lost so will be like a wounded animal.
Hopefully, Slav doesn't rotate tonight like at Wigan as that really backfired then.
They are drawing a lot of games, and imo that shows relisence and came back in the cup against Cardiff recently too.
Appalling defending by Millwall, 1 nil Fulham.
it would show resilience IMO if they grabbed a draw from being behind but in the recent league games they've drawn they have done that twice and been pegged back twice.
On Saturday against a very weak Hull side, that had been thrashed 1-5 by Brentford the weekend before, they couldn't see the game out and conceded late on.
I agree with you that it will be a tough game but I'm not seeing a particularly resilient side that's all.
So them nearly grabbing an equalizer tonight instead of capulating when we were on top, isn't resilient?
6 points clear. Not convinced Leeds will get in the play offs now looking at the table.
ah hindsight such a wonderful thing.
I don't remember them having chances when we were on top though. They came into the game last 20 mins when we were tired and had a goal rightly ruled out for offside that's not resilience that's us being tired having played a day later than them in poor conditions against Millwall away. They had a relatively easy home game a day before, against a poor Hull side and couldn't see out a win. No not resilient.
Resilience would have been them being able to hold out for a win having taken the early lead or them coming back to take a point or all 3. They didn't so again no not resilient.
Us, on the other hand, having gained 24 points from losing positions is resilience.
We are resilient, no doubt, but so are they imo and it has nothing to do with hindsight being a wonderful thing.It was close with the scorer, but the idiot who stopped offside to adjust his sock or whatever he was doing was right in front of Johnstone so definitely interfering with play.
They came back from losing positions against forest, Blackpool and Cardiff since January 1st. Regarding the offside goal last night many are saying the scorer was actually onside.
If (a big if) results stay the same, it’s a good weekend. We are currently 7 points clear of second place and once again opening up a lead.
Of course if Brentford and Fulham turn it around, and a I expect them to, the gap could then be cut to 4 points.
Huge 45 minutes to come.
Just got a little bit better.
Fulham 0-2 Barnsley
Stoke are still really poor, thrown away a 2 goal lead at QPR to trail 3-2. Would love them to drop.Make that 4-2 ;D
Just want BC to equalise.
I've just had a quick look at news now and it seems to me that Forest fans were watching another game to me yesterday.
Overall I think they really deserved a draw,I havnt seen any stats,I don't need to,I know what I saw myself.
We virtually dominated them I think I'm right in remembering that their equalie was their first shot on target?
They know deep down as do their own players management etc that we were the boss,it could have easily been 4-0 to us.
Still a long way to go and plenty of twists and turns yet but I wouldn't swap our position or fixtures upcoming with anyone.
I really think the two teams with by far the strongest SQUADS will get over the line. Those two are us and Fulham.
Really unimpressed by Forest yesterday.
*** Keep an eye on the hectic Easter program to really sort out the likely final positions......
On paper Leeds and forest have the marginally better fixtures.
I don't know how you can even begin to judge that in this crazy league. Who would have thought Barnsley would win 3-0 at Fulham?
Anyone literally can beat anyone. It's a mad and IMO a wonderful division.
A single game yes, however in a league system this deep in, its completely logical a run of games vs lower ranked sides is ‘easier’ than a run against higher ranked sides. It is hardly a stretch is it.
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Andre Wisdom still stinking the place out.
FT 1-1. Not a disastrous result.
Rumour that Lee Johnson has parted company with Bristol City
Has there been any action taken against Brentford and Preston players for their blatant dives at the weekend? Both could be said to have deceived an official by gaining penalties.
They don’t play for West Brom, ergo nothing will be done retrospectively.Nor did Dingle Don put it in his personal report so, no, no action taken.
Willock has scored again for Huddersfield!
Willock has scored again for Huddersfield!
again? I thought that was his first goal.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/51532918
You have to factor in how awful Reading are, also. Were it not for Bartley giving them a 1 goal headstart we would have cantered that game a couple of weeks back. Well, we did canter it in the end really.Factor in he scored the winner too , lets not forget this is the usual time of the year Wigan escape.
Factor in he scored the winner too , lets not forget this is the usual time of the year Wigan escape.
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Something needs to be done and this sounds like a workable initiative
Leeds keeper given 8 match ban for racist abuse to Leko when he was on loan at Charlton..
Leeds keeper given 8 match ban for racist abuse to Leko when he was on loan at Charlton..
Leeds keeper given 8 match ban for racist abuse to Leko when he was on loan at Charlton..If he was acting under instructions as rumours had it at the time Leeds should be hammered too
Racism..
Tolerated on the football pitch... just not in the stands.
The double standards are a joke.
Punishment is tough to judge without the full facts, which I’m not sure have been released?. Remember this decision is based on the balance of probability like a civil case, not beyond reasonable doubt.
On one hand 8 weeks doesn’t seem like much, but on the other 8 weeks is harsh as is the damage to his character if he is innocent.
Remember we were close to something like this with J-Rod, and the difference could be the panel were 45/55 against a ban rather than the reverse. Fine lines.
I don't understand the ruling. If its true that he was found guilty of probable abuse rather than definite abuse where does this stop? How is probable defined and proved?
I know the FA isn't a court of legal law but to me you are either guilty or not. If guilty throw the book at him. If not leave him be.
Regardless, the FA have deemed there to be sufficient evidence to find him guilty of a racist charge.
Football keeps saying that racism isn’t tolerated but this is obviously not the case. They, as a collective unit, are quick enough to ban supporters but then display a level of hypocrisy towards the players.
How do you plan to rid the game of racism when the protagonists in the pitch continue to receive such lenient sentences
If I went out today and used a racist term in the ground, I would quite rightly be banned for life. The same should apply to those on the field too.
...but if racism is a criminal offence, which it is...
This isn't true. Racism is a qualifier for aggravation in criminal law. This means that it itself is not a criminal offence, but its proven involvement in a criminal offence may/will result in a tougher conviction/sentence for said offence.
It is one of a few things which will qualify an offence as being a 'hate crime'.
If it's not criminal it's just called a 'hate incident'.
Leeds put the pressure on us. COYB!i couldn’t care less about Leeds, it’s the others I want to watch what they do.
So, that then would prevent a footballer from being taken to court for racial abusing another player because, in itself, it's not a criminal act?
You want a player banned for life based on the FA review? They can’t even review a penalty decision competently most of the time.
Unless the evidence is released it’s a nonsense to suggest he should have the book thrown.
"Racial abuse" isn't a well posed phrase so I'll avoid it.
On a football field, your main dangers are things that are said in the heat, and physical incidents.
For physicality, our sport has disciplinary procedures and (for adult level) consent. This really stands for the idea that conduct that may result in injury to one another in sport is covered by a sport's governing body themselves, by civil methods (ie; bans, fines, etc). The 'line' between this and grievous bodily harm (section 20 of the Offences Against the Person Act 1861) is understood by precedent to be about the role within the game, malice and attempt to injure.
Criminal offences otherwise regarding racial aggravation include such stars as assault, actual/grievous bodily harm, wounding, criminal damage (ie arson etc), harassment (incl. fear of violence, usually after restraining order). If they occur involving racism then there's nothing to stop it going to a criminal court.
Otherwise, the football authority can determine reasonable action for what they'd determine unacceptable. There's nothing to stop a victim seeking compensation through courts, this is done for example in discrimination cases (Race Relations Act 1976) ie; employment, service provision etc.. or, more likely in this field, seeking an injunction which is the step towards aggravated harassment (ie; don't do it again or next time it IS criminal by contempt of court).
I'd suggest looking at R v Barnes (2004) for a decent footballing criminal case.
Games all underway now ;D
Not the worse result in the world.
A massive set of fixtures coming up at the weekend . A lot of six pointers.
I am not bothered about any results apart from ours. If we win the next four we’ll be difficult to pass.
Yes i agree. It's ours and Leeds to throw away.
If bristle win and we win tomorrow....game over.
It’s not over till it’s over mate , I thought 2002 taught us all that ;DExactly, and Cardiff were 3 points clear of Preston and +11 GD for a play off place a few years ago with 1 game left... at Preston, which they lost 6-0, statistically virtually impossible, but it happened.
Exactly, and Cardiff were 3 points clear of Preston and +11 GD for a play off place a few years ago with 1 game left... at Preston, which they lost 6-0, statistically virtually impossible, but it happened.
It’s not over till it’s over mate , I thought 2002 taught us all that ;DPanic not...we’ve got this
Exactly, and Cardiff were 3 points clear of Preston and +11 GD for a play off place a few years ago with 1 game left... at Preston, which they lost 6-0, statistically virtually impossible, but it happened.
I'd sign Rodak if we go up and they don't.
I've certainly been very impressed whenever I've watched him.
Cairney is a fantastic footballer
Thought he was poor for Rotherham against us last season, especially in the 0-4.
Thought he was poor for Rotherham against us last season, especially in the 0-4.
Just turned 23 at Xmas and Rotherham were a poor, poor side. Leagues above SJ.
Conceded the same amount of goals as part of the defence Semi Ajayi was part of. Like Ajayi looks very promising in a better team.
Rumours flying around on social media that Peter Whittingham has sadly passed away :(
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The EFL has now followed the Premier League and postponed football indefinitely until it is safe to play again
According to Sport Bild; Dortmund have apparently agreed a contract with Jude Bellingham. Meaning that Birmingham will get nothing for the jewel of their academy.
By the way,have we been paid yet from the last kid we sold?
That's a real kick in the teeth for the Blues. THought the kid was a Blues fan?Probably the higher chance and maybe assurances of playing football from the start compared to the likes of Man U will have swayed it. Not totally sure how these deals work but hopefully Blues have a decent percentage of any sell-on clause.
No and we have asked fifa to intervene.Yep. Although we probably are far back in the long queue looking for justified payments from FC Barcelona.
Yep. Although we probably are far back in the long queue looking for justified payments from FC Barcelona.my understanding is as long as he hasn’t got a professional contract with Birmingham, they are not entitled to anything bar the basic pay for academy players. He birthday is in June, Dortmund either need to ensure he doesn’t sign with Brum after that or he’s signed to them beforehand.
Charlton have announced that two players - including their best striker Lyle Taylor - are refusing to play as they are out of contract at the end of the month and do not wish to jeopardise a future move.I assume this is down to the likely very short break between this season finishing and next season starting i.e no time to recover from injuries so any moves could be jeapordised - and of course players are reckoned to be at more risk of injury due to the corona lay-off and pretty intense schedule of games when they return. Taylor is 30 now and this is a key and maybe last chance to up his earnings significantly. I'm not trying to defend him here, just thinking out loud about the reasons.
Quite a scummy move from the players in question. I understand they need to take a stock of their future but im sure they will have been more than happy to take the monies on offer by Charlton each week. Nor, would footballers who approach the end of their contract, refuse to play as we approach season end, prior to the Corona interval.
If players across the football league took that stance there would never be any football matches.
Charlton have announced that two players - including their best striker Lyle Taylor - are refusing to play as they are out of contract at the end of the month and do not wish to jeopardise a future move.
Quite a scummy move from the players in question. I understand they need to take a stock of their future but im sure they will have been more than happy to take the monies on offer by Charlton each week. Nor, would footballers who approach the end of their contract, refuse to play as we approach season end, prior to the Corona interval.
If players across the football league took that stance there would never be any football matches.
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Hull have 5 players who have not opted to sign short term extensions to their existing deals. I find it odd because the players concerned don't look like players whose future would be secure elsewhere but whatever. It is a mess but nearly half the squad was out of contract one way or another so there was always potential for the wheels to drop off. I think they are going down.
Hull have 5 players who have not opted to sign short term extensions to their existing deals. I find it odd because the players concerned don't look like players whose future would be secure elsewhere but whatever. It is a mess but nearly half the squad was out of contract one way or another so there was always potential for the wheels to drop off. I think they are going down.
8 positive tests at 6 clubs in the championship just announced.
Given this seems to be a bit of a lottery, there is a 25% chance we are one of them. Could mean we lose someone from the squad for this weekend.
Should we lose the lot if they've been training together? That's how the test and trace is supposed to work isn't it?
Should we lose the lot if they've been training together? That's how the test and trace is supposed to work isn't it?
It is mportant we get off to a good start as it is still quite possible this season wont get finished and will be decided on some form of PPG
True.
It would also be interesting to know what they would do if one squad was decimated for a given period. I suspect they'd hope that team had nothing to play for which makes it easier, but what if they do?
They won't stop the league if its an isolated club, but they still have two / three games a week to fulfill.
Nixon saying it could get called off seems he reckons there is a pre determined number of infections/ isolations required to trigger a suspension which would lead to ending
not sure we want brentford getting up a head of steam!They can do what they want if we win today we’re 9 clear of Fulham and 10 of Brentford with only 8 games to go
They can do what they want if we win today we’re 9 clear of Fulham and 10 of Brentford with only 8 games to go
Wolves managed to throw away a larger lead at that stage I guess ;DBe positive haha! As long as we avoid defeat to Brentford next week I don’t think we have anything to worry about. Fulham looked shocking
Be positive haha! As long as we avoid defeat to Brentford next week I don’t think we have anything to worry about. Fulham looked shocking
I'd love Leeds to collapse and one of the other 2 come up with us.
I'd love Leeds to collapse and one of the other 2 come up with us.
If you look at the table Cardiff have everything to play for.
A win against Leeds takes them to 7 the position and easily within striking distance of the playoffs.
1-0 to Cardiff say I.
I'd love Leeds to collapse and one of the other 2 come up with us.Well done Jacko, jinxed 'em good and proper
Well done Jacko, jinxed 'em good and proper
Well that was a turn up for the books. Top of the league and as it stands Leeds are the team that gets caught first by any pursuer. Not a bad weekend.
Albion Fulham double next week please. 🤞🏻
Don't want Leeds coming up, want them constantly looking over their shoulder.Same. Perfect outcome for me would be us going up as champions, someone (anyone) other than Leeds getting 2nd, someone (anyone) other than Leeds going up through the playoffs......... and Villa going down.
Same. Perfect outcome for me would be us going up as champions, someone (anyone) other than Leeds getting 2nd, someone (anyone) other than Leeds going up through the playoffs......... and Villa going down.Us up
If we beat Brentford there isn't a bad outcome from the Leeds game. If they draw we put 2 points between ourselves and both Fulham and Leeds if there is positive result either way we put 3 points between ourselves and the defeated side but the winner does not close the gap.
Woodgate out Warnock in..he is going for the record..oldest manager and most clubs !!!
Also means Boro will beat Leeds in a few weeks.I'll second that one mate.
I'll second that one mate.Well I would have done if they had to play Middlesborough, but they don't.
Well I would have done if they had to play Middlesborough, but they don't.
Forestieri , Fletcher and Fox haven’t extended their contracts and can’t play against us next week
Forestieri , Fletcher and Fox haven’t extended their contracts and can’t play against us next week
NOt Steven Fletcher, please no.I read something about us being interested pre lockdown...
Could do with Leeds winning here to keep Fulham at bay, pleased to see them ahead. Don't care if we win the league, just want to finish top two.
Could do with Leeds winning here to keep Fulham at bay, pleased to see them ahead. Don't care if we win the league, just want to finish top two.
Not even about winning the league, it's about playing for 2 spaces that represent success instead of 1.
Fulham should be down to 10 man, hopefully some retrospective action to come, for a blatant elbow
Fulham win today and the gap to 3rd is cut even further. That's all that matters.
Also feel confident in saying if Mitrovic played for us we'd already be promoted.
Also feel confident in saying if Mitrovic played for us we'd already be promoted.
Also feel confident in saying if Mitrovic played for us we'd already be promoted.
Also feel confident in saying if Mitrovic played for us we'd already be promoted.
I tend to agree however we had two strikers last season get 50 goals between them and we only made the play offs
Mitrovic looks like he’s given up.
He's lost his last 5 50/50s, they need a goal very quickly.
3-0 Fulham have collapsed.
I think Fulham's top two Hope's are fading fast. It's going to be between us and Brentford.
Brentford play before us next, at Reading Tuesday night. Win that and the gap is two points.
It's starting to feel like that season we overtook Wolves on the run in, only this time its us looking like the sitting duck.
Slaven better sort his head out fast.
Mitrovic has turned in to Robson Kanu second half.He's facing a 3match retro ban! Their face could be run. Forest will go above them with a win tomorrow
We are still masters of our own destiny and don't need to depend on other teams results and if we don't achieve automatic promotion, then we don't deserve it, period!
I wouldn’t disagree, however momentum is everything at this stage of the season and it looks like Brentford have it big style.I think you have to regardless now
We however can’t score to save our lives.
We must make a change up front next game, if Kanu starts you have to question the management team.
Looking at the teams currently in the play off spots and those chasing a spot, if we, by some chance, didn’t secure an automatic promotion place and Brentford leapfrogged us, what three teams would we have a the best chance against in the play offs and which teams would best be avoided?
For me, I’d prefer to Fulham, Cardiff and Preston.
Not fancied Nottingham Forest, Derby and Cardiff
Obviously, there could be a team that features in both options, for me it’s Cardiff
I'd rather play for 2 positions against 3 teams than 1 position against 2.I’ve been struggling all day with this. Am I thick? Surely taking a Fulham threat further away from us was a good thing. Now we have Brentford as our biggest worry. Fulham less now. ???
I wouldn’t disagree, however momentum is everything at this stage of the season and it looks like Brentford have it big style....but if we play like we did 1st half last night Harry Kane wouldn't have a prayer of scoring for us.
We however can’t score to save our lives.
We must make a change up front next game, if Kanu starts you have to question the management team.
...but if we play like we did 1st half last night Harry Kane wouldn't have a prayer of scoring for us.
I disagree, Kane is a quality premier league striker who has great ability, quality movement, can beat a man and finish from all areas.
Kanu works hard and that’s about it.
I disagree, Kane is a quality premier league striker who has great ability, quality movement, can beat a man and finish from all areas.Sometimes you have to work with what you have....I always favour Kanu...not because he’s a world beater but (IMO) he is by far the best of the 3 options (should be 5 including Tillich /Morton but at this stage unfair to throw them straight in)
Kanu works hard and that’s about it.
1-0 Sheffield Wednesday, brilliant headed goal by Conor Wickham.And just look at who we are playing next. Are they getting into a rhythm?
And just look at who we are playing next. Are they getting into a rhythm?
Silence is deafening regarding Mitrovic's elbow. If he escapes then it makes a mockery of the retro punishment process.https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2020/06/28/aleksandar-mitrovic-faces-lengthy-ban-fa-will-take-account-previous/
Did Dingle Don not make a big enough deal of it??
3 match ban confirmed.
What did mitrovic do that was different to what benrahma did ?
Not bothered about Brentford ;D come on Luton Town!!
:o Brentford are bang on form and could easily win the championship.
We on the other hand have so far looked poor especially in creating chances.
Had we beat blues it would have been a massive physiological advantage. The fact that we didn't has given Brentford a massive lift and they've smelt blood. We have to win the next 2 games to try and deflate them again.
Fancy Leeds and Brentford ahead of us, sorry to say. To have started the season with this attack was daft. Hopefully i'm wrong.
Same attackers that had 50 points at the halfway stage of the season.
Since then we've been in steady decline
To be fair that's not really down to the strikers themselves. Between the 3 of them they are on 21 goals which is pitiful for a top 2 side.
Austin has the 3rd or 4th best strike rate in the division. Not his fault he's not been picked.
Agreed but my point is that for us to run with those 3 from the off was bonkers. I am surprised we are top 2 to be fair. I thought we were going to get away with it, still hope we do.
Leeds- Luton 0-1.. :)
Happy days. Now hang on for 40 minutes!!Whereas Reading have little to play for, Luton obviously have.
Whereas Reading have little to play for, Luton obviously have.
The match stats are ridiculously in Leeds favour, but as we all know, its about putting the ball in the net.
Wigan 3 - 0 Stoke.And crucially Wigan warming up nicely for their next opponents
Think they're going to drop!!
And crucially Wigan warming up nicely for their next opponents
FT 1-1. Game on.Yeah! Great result.
My fear is that, if we do get promoted, we will still be stuck with them next year unless the club is prepared to take a hit
Wigan's win takes them 8 points clear. Beach time after tonight I fear.
Wigan placed in to administration.Don’t think deduction is that high maybe between 10 and 12 for first offence ?
Is that a 15 point deduction, which surely means relegation?
Forget Wigan beating Brentford, that’s a kick in the teeth to the players after their recent form.
Don’t think deduction is that high maybe between 10 and 12 for first offence ?
Think they may need more points to stay up if they get deduction for administration
I wonder if there's any chance of them not being able to fulfil their fixtures?
That way when they take off all the points we'd be 2 points more ahead of Brentford and 2 points closer to Leeds
Wigan placed in to administration.I think it's a 12 points deduction
Is that a 15 point deduction, which surely means relegation?
Forget Wigan beating Brentford, that’s a kick in the teeth to the players after their recent form.
I think it's a 12 points deduction
Derby ahead at Preston, Wayne Rooney on 18 mins.
The EFL official statement on Wigan
https://www.efl.com/news/2020/july/efl-statement-wigan-athletic/#.XvyAiEcA7gw.twitter
If the club is relegated (without the deduction) they will start next season with a 12 point deduction in League 1.
If the club survives this season without the points deduction will be applied and their league position will be adjusted which could of course relegate them.
I am assuming the rule is constructed in this way to stop clubs who are hopelessly adrift at the foot of the table from going into administration to get it out of the way without meaningful impact on their prospects.
Hard times ahead for Wigan but the recent run of games has quite possibly saved the club as it would have gone from bad to worse.Sad for Wigan, but I still think of them as a large amateur club. They were a kind of northern equivalent to my local club Wycombe Wanderers. They made it into the Football League about 12 years before Wycombe. I see that they've been around since 1932 so they are not one of those founding professional clubs, and some would say Wigan is basically a rugby town. I'm sure they'll survive in some form.
They’ve a fighting chance of staying in the championship even with the deduction this season. If they do drop, they are at least they've got the deduction out the way.
unless of course they throw in the towel and finish the season horribly
Are Derby in trouble for a points deduction along the way?Derby forest at weekend will be tasty
Horrible thing to say but very good news for us in the immediate short term. They play Brentford on Saturday and Fulham last day with games against direct relegation rivals Hull Barnsley and Charlton in between meaning it's still in their hands. They don't need to rely on other results.
Before the deduction threat they were absolutely safe.
Are Derby in trouble for a points deduction along the way?
Relegation seems a lot harder to call than the Prem! Barnsley, Luton, Hull, Huddersfield, Stoke, Boro and now Wigan sucked back into it if they do have a points deduction...actually even Blues as they have a poor GD.
I'd like Luton, Stoke and Hull to drop.
i was surprised how much ground Luton have made up slowly, not impossible for them to escape now !
Administrators saying this morning there is a 75% chance they WILL finish the season . Anybody seen a table with their results wiped out (hope it doesn’t occur) ?
They took 4 points off us, so it would be a massive help. Won't happen though.Don’t think it will happen either but was interested as to how it would impact on play off positions and relegation battle which has tightened up since restart. Assume if the worst happened only 2 teams would be relegated.
Unbeaten in 9 or something? Nathan Jones is like Eddie Howe it seems.The reason why I always gave the thumbs down when we were linked with Michael O'Neill. Managing Northern Ireland is probably alot easier.
For me only Stoke are REALLY struggling. Amazed O'Neil hasn't at least got them organised. Then Hull. The rest is a toss up.
Could have done without the confidence boosting last minute winner for Hull. Oh well, 2 injuries plus a days less rest than us, we should still be favourites.
Derby have 5 wins in 5 games now. The most on form team in the division since Christmas and looking likely to be the side that wins the play offs (provided Brentford aren't there).They are doing what Villa did last year, would probably be play off favourites right now - they still have to play us Leeds and Brentford so they will have a lot to say about how the table finishes either way
All on the back of signing Rooney.
Really don't want them to get promotion after the shoddy way they have done business with the stadium.
If Forest win they'll be on 70 points and ahead of Brentford until they play. Could help us if Brentford are also looking over their shoulder, or could push them even more.
Preferably a draw or a Derby win for me looking at the table. As someone else said, Brentford won't be looking over their shoulder
Bit depressing looking at everyone so desperate for Leeds and Brentford to drop points. We just need to focus on ourselves and win our games. If Brentford and Leeds win all their games (they won’t) then they will deserve it
Benrahma hat trick. 3-0. Brentford
Brentford ha e won their last 5 games by an aggregate score of 14-0.
Need somebody to score against them.
No Lawrence or Waghorn against us for Derby. Half of Hull's team have left and they also picked up a couple of injuries mid week. All this off the back of Wednesday having to resort to playing only one centre back in their 3 at the back. We need to take advantage of things going our way.Thought they only had one player?
You have a strange idea of fun. It’s more like the stress I’m have been missingWithout some stress, it’s just another game. I’d much rather be concerned about promotion than relegation. I hate being in mid table safety. Anyway, our most memorable matches have always been one off last day games. Oldham, Palace, Pompey(2), Charlton,etc. The less said about Bristol Rovers, the better. Regardless, this is what being a football fan is all about. Not really stressful yet, but by God, it’s exciting. Just a shame we have to watch it from such a distance. Enjoy!!
Lee Johnson sacked as manager of Bristol City, first post coronavirus cssualtyDon't forget Woodgate at Boro!
Pulis in the frame for the Bristol City job apparently.Good match
Isn't this the fun we were all missing?!
Lee Johnson sacked as manager of Bristol City, first post coronavirus cssualty
QPR won, they are safe now i imagine. Add them to Blackburn as another team we play with nothing to fight for (hopefully).
Albion Fans, should, by now, well the older ones, know better than to assume anything about us and any team we play :D
Brentford's next game is vs a weakened Chalrton, however they have only conceded 2 goals in the last 5 games. Unlikely, but not impossible that Bowyer could steal a draw vs this unrelentless Brentford team.
Leeds vs Stoke makr me more optimistic though. Leeds have been uncertain post Christmas and Stoke are way better than their position suggests, while coming off the back of a big win.
I am looking more at chasing Leeds down at the moment rather than fending off Brentford.
I think post the CoVID break, Brentford's youngsters havr had time to mature and they are now the best side in the division, with genuine premier league players in a few positions. They must surely drop points, but if they dropped 4 in their last 5 games it would be a shock - 2 seems the most likely.
For rhat reason, I am now focussing more on Leeds and what they might give up, starting with Stoke in Tuesday.
Interesting game about to kick off, Fulham, Forest or both (draw) about to have their slim hopes of automatic promotion dashed.
It was a good goal from Arter, good fight and finish.
They keep talking about Brenford and Fulham catching us, I don't think Leeds are out of sight yet!
As things stand, if we win tomorrow we could go up on Saturday if all the stars align.
Charlton now hit the bar. Almost 2.
Are you watching the game?
Will probably help us if Forest can grab an equaliser.
Perversely, because I still don't want Leeds going up, IF Brentford lose today, I'd love to see Forest turn that game around and win 2-1.
Perversely, because I still don't want Leeds going up, IF Brentford lose today, I'd love to see Forest turn that game around and win 2-1.Only because Fulham will be closer to us than Forest would be. But a draw would suit!
Charlton fans on twitter saying how up for ot Field looks. They will wonder why 😂😂
Watching this Fulham Forest game. Man Forest are so poor no idea how they are where they are. A few decent players but that’s it. Fulham hardly playing them off the park though. Got to fancy our chances against theseLooks a poor game
Today could quite easily be San Field's best, most important performance for us.
Looks a poor game
HT. Brentford 0-1 Charlton Athletic
Fulham could still be a threat. Knockaert is someone I've always rated.
Issue with Fulham catching Leeds as opposed to Brentford or Forest is it would mean beating us. I REALLY want Leeds to miss out again. ;D
I see you’re stalking their Twitter, I’m watching. What’s the view on there? Mine is as above, Brentford seems to look like they are feeling pressure and trying to force it. Of course could all turn around.
The Charlton Twitter has a reputation for getting a bit edgy, so far they've made only 6 or 7 tweets, tells me it's a dull game. Hopefully they can hang on.
The Charlton Twitter has a reputation for getting a bit edgy, so far they've made only 6 or 7 tweets, tells me it's a dull game. Hopefully they can hang on.
Fulham win 1-0 :(4 points off us, but we have a better goal difference, so call it 5.
Just sat eating my supper watching the BBC Championship scores page. Sad life really :(
It’s on hesgoal if you want to watch itThink I'll just stick with the BBC page, thanks. :(
1-1 Benrahma (pen)
Twitter thinks he dived, but I'll reserve judgement.
Need Charlton to come good again.
Not clear enough for a ban then?
I knew I shouldn't have refreshed my browser.
Never in doubt that Brentford would win that. I don't see how they don't win all their remaining games. Teams are terrified of them at the moment, just dominating games.
And to make things worse Fulham are back in it.
Our destiny is in our own hands. I think we will settle a few nerves tomorrow.Behave...we could win 10-0 tomorrow and half of the folk on here would be worried that we scored to many and won’t have any goals left for the last 4 matches
They didn't play remotely well today. Sign of a good team I guess. Be interesting to see the penalty incident.
70% possession, 20+ shots to 6. Probably should have scored 4.
The only thing that annoys me with Brentford is their luck with injuries/suspensions, Benrahma and Watkins never miss a match.
70% possession, 20+ shots to 6. Probably should have scored 4.
The only thing that annoys me with Brentford is their luck with injuries/suspensions, Benrahma and Watkins never miss a match.
If Benrahma dived for that pen, that would follow his theatricals against us. He went down prostrate in the 91 minute from a nothing challenge. When he finally got up, he was sprinting full speed down the left wing.
If he dived I would expect us to be lodging an appeal pretty quick to give them a 3 point deduction....
I have not seen it so can't comment.
Cardiff winning which means if it stays like this we are guaranteed playoffs ;D
Also means Blackburn will have nothing to play for when it comes to us.
2-1 Cardiff.
It means if we beat Derby tomorrow they've got nothing to play for against Brentford and Leeds. It also makes tomorrow must win for them. We really need Mogga to turn it around.
Very soft from the 1 angle I've seen it on. Looks like they meet cross at same time and he gamboles forward on contact. Would need to see it slowed down properly.
If he dived I would expect us to be lodging an appeal pretty quick to give them a 3 point deduction....There were no slo-mo highlights of dodgy decisions. Charlton were somehow deemed offside once, but there was nothing shown to prove they were.
I have not seen it so can't comment.
Helder Costa: Wolves winger completes £16m Leeds move on four-year contract
Well we couldn't really have hoped for a worse set of results could we?
Tomorrow is massive as they all are. Brentford winning 6 in a row is incredible- I really thought their run was going to end tonight. I think we’ll need to win 4/5 if we are to get an automatic spot.
They are all big, but I think there will be a lot more positivity if we win tomorrow. At the moment it’s feels to me like momentum is with Brentford and almost as if I’m waiting for us to mess up. If we win tomorrow I think there could be a momentum shift.I think it will be pressure right to the end even if we win tomorrow. We can afford one more slip but I hope we don’t have one. Win the rest of our games and we deserve to go up. Lose just one (unless it’s the last and we are already promoted) and I fear our nerve will go.
I think it will be pressure right to the end even if we win tomorrow. We can afford one more slip but I hope we don’t have one. Win the rest of our games and we deserve to go up. Lose just one (unless it’s the last and we are already promoted) and I fear our nerve will go.I was at Oldham 76. At least we’re still in the driving seat at this moment in time. Worry not. Yet!!
I think it will be pressure right to the end even if we win tomorrow. We can afford one more slip but I hope we don’t have one. Win the rest of our games and we deserve to go up. Lose just one (unless it’s the last and we are already promoted) and I fear our nerve will go.
Tomorrow is massive as they all are. Brentford winning 6 in a row is incredible- I really thought their run was going to end tonight. I think we’ll need to win 4/5 if we are to get an automatic spot.
Brentford are 100% beating Derby before we kick a ball again so the nerves will be back come Saturday at Blackburn
Could Blues be dragged right into relegation scrap? Not the most difficult run in but could be Betty Swollocks time if they come unstuck on Sunday
Preston win. Back in the race. Play Brentford next week. Would make me (and the brother in law) very happy.
Could we crowdfund Pulis to go back to Stoke for a day and get a 1-0 with a dodgy goal in the 87th minute?
Some unusual chat about the Community Shield...
https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/liverpools-potential-community-shield-opponents-18566932
If Manchester City, Chelsea or Manchester United win the FA Cup and are unable to take part in the Community Shield game because of European commitments, the FA may invite the winners of the Championship to play Liverpool for it instead...
Decent crowd in ;D
This is the kind of ugly game Stoke could draw 0-0 though. It's not nice viewing but if they can make it to half-time I'll take it.
Stoke are really awful, is this the best O’Neill can make of them? Leeds will win this by a canter.And to think there were some votes for O'Neill before our last manager appointment.
There goes the goal difference advantage.
There goes the goal difference advantage.If I'm not mistaken we're level on that. Lets hope the Stokies get a couple of consolation goals.
Wow - Stoke really are bad, aren’t they? What a dreadful side. How on earth did we drop points to them?
Since giving away a foolish penalty, they’ve folded. No heart, no organisation and no quality.
How you can spend so much money and end up with such an appalling team is mystifying.
Think they might actually struggle to stay up looking at their remaining fixtures. Need to play Brentford and Forest in their last 4 as well as Birmingham who will be looking over their shoulder themselves
Come on, we know that if we manage to get promotion with a couple of games left then it will be off to the beach - we won't get another point.
It happens every year.
No way we can win the division.
We just need to keep doing what we're doing and not worry about anybody elseAlways has been, always will be. Obvious statement by me really.
I’ve decided to stop hoping that others will do us favours by failing or succeeding. We can only rely on our own performances, hopefully :D
Should be an interesting weekend. The top 10 are all playing each other :o
Brentford manager has won the manager of the month award.
The top three in the Championships had the following results in their last four games of last seasonJust have to accept Leeds are going up really. Confidence is high; 8 goals in their last 2, and i dont really see how they mess it up now. Plus this means brentford keep winning and piling the pressure on, i'd rather brentford blew it tomorrow and we have some breathing space before playing Rovers!
Leeds Won 0, Draws 1, Lost 3 - POINTS 1
WBA Won 2, Draws 1, Lost 1 - POINTS 7
Brentford Won 4, Draws 0, Lost 0 - POINTS 12
If those results were replicated this season, the table would look like this
1. Brentford 87 Points
2. WBA 87 Points
3. Leeds 82 Points
Brentford would be Champions on Goal Difference, unless we had some big wins and they didn't. I would snatch your hand off for that table
Agreed its tight & Leeds have that extra point, but if we want/deserve promotion we should be good enough to get 8pts from 12 available. This still gives us space to draw 2 or lose 1. Brentford can't afford to drop a point and although they possibly won't, we just have to make sure it's in our hands.
Just have to accept Leeds are going up really. Confidence is high; 8 goals in their last 2, and i dont really see how they mess it up now. Plus this means brentford keep winning and piling the pressure on, i'd rather brentford blew it tomorrow and we have some breathing space before playing Rovers!
Cardiff win tonight please to put Fulham to bed once and for all.
Opposite required. Cardiff winning ends the play-off race for about 6 clubs. While we directly benefit from Blackburn being out of it, Derby would also be too far behind and they play our 2 rivals.
Opposite required. Cardiff winning ends the play-off race for about 6 clubs. While we directly benefit from Blackburn being out of it, Derby would also be too far behind and they play our 2 rivals.
Derby are only 3 points behind Cardiff and play Cardiff after Brentford. If they win their next two games they would be on equal points with Cardiff even if Cardiff win tonight.
Having watched them against us and Forest I can’t see Derby troubling anyone at the moment.
They were missing both Lawrence and Waghorn against us, so had limited options in attack. Lawrence will be back for the Brentford game, might give them a bit more attacking nous.
Having watched them against us and Forest I can’t see Derby troubling anyone at the moment.
Think i'd like a draw tonight from that game and Huddersfield to trounce Luton.
I’ve seen quite a few of you on here hating on Luton. Is there any reason?
I live 20 mins away so am in complete agreement as I hate the place and the team just wondered why others might ;D
Let's hope Brentford are on your wavelength - btw, that gives us no credit whatsoever.
Unfortunately you are very wrong!!
I’ve seen quite a few of you on here hating on Luton. Is there any reason?
I live 20 mins away so am in complete agreement as I hate the place and the team just wondered why others might ;D
Moving the Huddersfield game for tv actually means we will play our penultimate game before Brentford do for once so after that game the gap could be too big for them to close and we could be upThis is probably why it’s been chosen. Leeds not on Sunday now because they can’t clinch promotion
I’ve seen quite a few of you on here hating on Luton. Is there any reason?
I live 20 mins away so am in complete agreement as I hate the place and the team just wondered why others might ;D
I’ve seen quite a few of you on here hating on Luton. Is there any reason?I've had my car broken into 3 times in my life, and 2 of those times were in Luton.
I live 20 mins away so am in complete agreement as I hate the place and the team just wondered why others might ;D
Huddersfield are dreadful. Abject.
To think we were heavily connected with the Cowley’s, something I dreaded at the time and relieved that it never came to passAgreed.
Strangely a Fulham win gives Swansea impetus to overtake rivals Cardiff tomorrow with a win against Leeds and get into the playoff picture depending on other results
Fulham are going to be a handful. Very strong defence.......
Was important Fulham won this. Keeps Swansea, Preston and Derby interested. On the negative it means 2 points further back Blackburn aren't completely out of it.And we all know, points make prizes. Despite how other teams MAY be motivated after tonight, we’ve now got a team one point closer to us after tonight’s result. It’s certainly made me a little more nervous.
Brentford lead already
I think it will be, Derby are poor.
Brentford have a front 3 who are all premier league quality, playing in front of a highly talented midfield. They took a while to adjust due to their age but as they have now matured, they are probably the best team in the division.
They will beat Brentford, Stoke and Barnsley. This is the last chance for somebody to stop them.
We will just have to make sure we pick up the 2 wins and 2 draws we needed.
Pretty charitable reading. They're an alright side who have absolutely zero pressure on them since the restart. When they looked like cracking the automatic promotion spots a few months ago they ended up going on a 5 match winless run.
Need to win this afternoon and not offer Brentford or Fulham any more encouragement
Brentford and Leeds message boards pretty much saying that we will drop points...
Could do with Swansea doing us a favour against Leeds to keep them looking over their shoulder too. Something tells me Leeds won’t bottle it though
Yeah Leeds are up now for me. Would love to be proved wrong.
Draw against Fulham and it's down to us and Brentford. Our destiny is still in our own hands.
Sometimes, you just know. After that Stoke game it was clear Leeds were not going to give this up. They are just too determined and too good.
It's us vs Brentford....a Brentford side who looks odds on to get the 10 wins in a row.
On the positive side it should incentivize Preston who play Brentford next
How are you watching it Webby? I've got Sky/BT/Amazon and can't see it anywhere.
Let's hope the Leeds players are as complacent as their fans. They think it's done. They might start twitching if they lose that local derby ;D only reason I now want them to get the 4 points is explained below.Agree..I've read through some arrogant forums before but they are right at the summit of being up themselves..
Regards Brentford, well run club, exciting front three, decent manager and on an unbelievable run. But have a quick gander on their forum, the fans, absolute ***** one and all. Would love to see them get ****** by Forest in the play-offs.
Hull allowed a first half touchdown to Wigan. Let’s see if they can answer with a touchdown drive of their own.
Thought it was a try and a conversion up in that part of the world...
8 goals from a total of 9 shots on target. Great conversion rate.Sign them up lol
Sign them up lol
Could really do with Huddersfield scoring against the Owls!
Why so?
Why so?So they are not has desperate for the points against us!
Sadly I cannot see anything other than three wins for Brentford. They are playing well but also seem to have luck in their favour, dodgy penalty last week and a keeper howler against Derby.
Let's hope the Leeds players are as complacent as their fans. They think it's done. They might start twitching if they lose that local derby ;D only reason I now want them to get the 4 points is explained below.
That point wraps it up for me. Huddersfield and QPR are cannon fodder.
**** off Brentford.
I wish we didn't only have a 3 day gap until we go again at Huddersfield. I think it must effect how sharp they are. Luckily though, we have a largish squad, which allows to make lots of subs.
Shot straight at Preston keeper who just flapped at it. :'(
I can see Brentford getting promoted, keeping the baulk of their side and staying up. A bit like Sheff Utd have done.
I can see Brentford getting promoted, keeping the baulk of their side and staying up. A bit like Sheff Utd have done.Via the play offs ;)
Knew when turning on the score updates at 15 minutes that Brentford would be one up. They have become the masters of the early goal, it settles their nerves and stops them panicking the later the game goes on.
A draw would be great but it isn’t going to happen tonight. They probably edge ahead as favourites tonight, as they will be getting the last 2 wins they need. You never know though, can’t rule us out getting 6 points from the next two - I just don’t have much faith we are mentally strong enough to do it.
Remind me more of Norwich tbh.
But, should they be relegated, they come down with a "Treasure Trove" to sustain them and the benefits that bestows.Since the restart in particular, norwich have looked atrocious. They've barely done anything and always look like conceding. If Cantwell and Pukki go, can't see where any creativity or goals will come from?
That's why we need promotion, I know I don't have to mention that to you above all others
Got to half time still in the game but I don’t have much faith in Preston. Another early goal from Brentford to get that bit of doubt out there mind. I think there pushing us all the way, please don’t underestimate these games Albion and try to start quick.Didn't seem to realise the shot was straight at him.
Just seen the goal, weird attempt at a save from the goalkeeper.
Give and take, biased view I know, but Preston could be on level terms, or is it wishful thinking on my part?One excellent free kick over the wall brought off top save from Brentford keeper. Preston are doing their best, but the Brentford defence look very powerful and organised.
Were they hoping they were in luck when Pereira tried to cheat his way to a getting a player sent off for tickling his hair?
Or when Robson-Kanu fell over in the penalty area claiming a penalty...
Or even when Pereira took a tumble when he slipped on that banana skin in the area and tried to claim a penalty for slipping over his own feet?
No, they don't get the luck, you are right. Luck is created from good moves and skill.
They couldn't get past a stubborn Fulham defence so resorted to try and cheat their way through it instead.
I'd rather the luck we get from shots like Benrahma had, than fall over in the area and try and trick the referee into giving a penalty that was not deserved whatsoever.
This was posted on the Brentford forum.
Benrahma: Hold my beer.
Were they hoping they were in luck when Pereira tried to cheat his way to a getting a player sent off for tickling his hair?
Or when Robson-Kanu fell over in the penalty area claiming a penalty...
Or even when Pereira took a tumble when he slipped on that banana skin in the area and tried to claim a penalty for slipping over his own feet?
No, they don't get the luck, you are right. Luck is created from good moves and skill.
They couldn't get past a stubborn Fulham defence so resorted to try and cheat their way through it instead.
I'd rather the luck we get from shots like Benrahma had, than fall over in the area and try and trick the referee into giving a penalty that was not deserved whatsoever.
This was posted on the Brentford forum.
Benrahma: Hold my beer.
Referee is an absolute joke pulling Preston up on the littlest of things but letting Brentford get away with pulling people down, Preston could play until Christmas & not score here though.Refs are influenced by the media love in with Brentford. Another corruption of the (once) beautiful game.
Refs are influenced by the media love in with Brentford. Another corruption of the (once) beautiful game.
I wish we were playing Preston. Brentford look so comfortable.
Charlton winning means Huddersfield drop to 1 place above the zone. Friday will be very tough.
Charlton winning means Huddersfield drop to 1 place above the zone. Friday will be very tough.
Based on?
I’d expect them to come out fighting due to their position. They haven’t won since lockdown or scored in their last 4 games. It would be typical of us to gift them something.Huddersfield have beat Birmingham away 0-3 since lockdown...
I’d expect them to come out fighting due to their position. They haven’t won since lockdown or scored in their last 4 games. It would be typical of us to gift them something.
Lads if we're worrying about the opposition when it comes to Huddersfield and QPR we're barmy.
It's all about us we are a much better team than both of them no matter how much they "want it".
If we fail to beat them we have only ourselves to blame and we don't deserve to go up.
All I can go on is their awful players and form. If we play to even 60% of our best we'll win easily.
Lads if we're worrying about the opposition when it comes to Huddersfield and QPR we're barmy.
It's all about us we are a much better team than both of them no matter how much they "want it".
If we fail to beat them we have only ourselves to blame and we don't deserve to go up.
All I can go on is their awful players and form. If we play to even 60% of our best we'll win easily.
Birmingham late equaliser v Charlton. Come on Blues.
I may be missing something, but why exactly? :)Just want Blues to stay up. They applauded when we stayed up.
So, it boils down to this in theorem, the square on the hypotenuse of a right-angled triangle is equal in area to the sum of the squares on the other two sides.
Win two and we are promoted :D
So... A squared plus b squared equals C Squared?
What position does Pythagoras play?
Our main striker and the “Magna Graeciaâ€, metaphorically speaking and influencing us in footballing terms, of the Championship :Dr
I’m sorry but if the shoe was on the other foot and you read that you’d probably have just as animated a response. I’ve seen plenty of examples of posters on here being annoyed that Man Utd, Liverpool, Chelsea fans etc are arrogant when it comes to playing us.
The games not played on paper, teams lose to less talented side all the time, and nobody wins every game of football. We’ve no Devine right to go and beat Huddersfield and as we’ve seen (16 times this season) we are more than capable of drawing a game.
The worry isn’t even qpr or Huddersfield as such, it’s the pressure of having to win and havain’t no margin for error.
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No need to be obtuse 😁
Barnsley miss as easy a chance as you'll ever see, within 60 seconds they're one down. Own goal.
One mans obtuseness is another mans astuteness, I prefer to consider it to be the latter ;)
They make the wrong decision every time. Why they're bottom I guess.
Still managed to get two points off us and score three in the process...... :-X .
I was referencing obtuse angles, Mr Pythagorus
Maths was never my strongest subject, but there again finding something I was good at is a little obtuse :)
Leeds hang on to another 1 nil win after being completely outplayed.That's the difference we were the better side against Blackburn and Fulham and didn't win either.
Will be deserving Champions.
That's the difference we were the better side against Blackburn and Fulham and didn't win either.
I think i’m the only Albion fan happy to see Leeds back. The EPL needs the big clubs and that includes Forest and Sheff Weds tbh.Not forgetting WBA....
I think i’m the only Albion fan happy to see Leeds back. The EPL needs the big clubs and that includes Forest and Sheff Weds tbh.
Not forgetting WBA....
Leeds have grinded out a lot of 1-0 victories this season, something we don't do well.
I think i’m the only Albion fan happy to see Leeds back. The EPL needs the big clubs and that includes Forest and Sheff Weds tbh.
I think i’m the only Albion fan happy to see Leeds back. The EPL needs the big clubs and that includes Forest and Sheff Weds tbh.
I think i’m the only Albion fan happy to see Leeds back. The EPL needs the big clubs and that includes Forest and Sheff Weds tbh.
Sorry, I just don't understand this mindset. The Prem' deserves the teams who've earned the right to be there. Full stop. If/when Leeds go up they'll have earned and deserved the right to be there. Apart from the Vile of course who got there as part of some wider conspiracy ;) .
Can't help but think you're going off at a tangent.Its a sine of the times sadly !
Taking off my Blue and White specs, Brentford in the premier league is going to be fascinating. It's a shame their recruitment department will only have a limited pre season to sign players.
If ever a club deserved promotion, it's them.
As for Leeds...well Bielsa is nice I suppose. Hate them as a coub though.
Stoke will save us - not that we deserve it
They’re going to draw this aren’t they.
Goooooarrrrrrn Stoke!
They've scored out of spite to torture us.
Just wondering what's the weather like in stoke today? Its pouring down in the north west.
Rain is a leveler and mistakes will be costly
Brentford site going into meltdown..😂
Stoke have lost the most points from wining positions apparently. I can see a Bradford moment for Brentford at sometime. I’m so angry though as this was always going to be tough. There was always a decent chance this would of been a draw. They players should be fined two weeks wages
If it’s going to be Brentford who get 2nd I’d rather they win 3 or 4-1 rather draw this.
Goo on Stoke me ducks
Struggling to see the logic here. Am I missing something?
Losing out on automatic promotion on goal difference with 75 goals scored will be a bitter pill that will take years if not decades to recover from., from a fans point of view.
It's clear looking on twitter now just how much vitriol there is for us from premier league football fans. Everyone cheering Brentford on (which I get to a point), but tje reasoning seems to be less about how well run they are, and more about how much they don't want to see us in the premier league again.
******* depressing. I hope we stick it down their throats - seeing nothing similar about their darlings Fulham who are near enough the same club as us.
****** hate elitist football fans - one of the worst things about the premier league era. Really look down on working class clubs.
It's clear looking on twitter now just how much vitriol there is for us from premier league football fans. Everyone cheering Brentford on (which I get to a point), but tje reasoning seems to be less about how well run they are, and more about how much they don't want to see us in the premier league again.
******* depressing. I hope we stick it down their throats - seeing nothing similar about their darlings Fulham who are near enough the same club as us.
****** hate elitist football fans - one of the worst things about the premier league era. Really look down on working class clubs.
I fully expect a last minute equaliser unfortunately.
An aneurysm would be a kindness at this point.Bloody hell mate that made me laugh , I nearly inebriated myself
Oh and by the way, Bilic still needs to go regardless.
I bet Billic is great company right now!
Jenkins needs to pop down to the bank on Monday and get Bilic his promotion bonus ready in cash (if we do it) and print off Slav’s P45 too.You're entitled to your opinion, but don't think its widely shared.
Jenkins needs to pop down to the bank on Monday and get Bilic his promotion bonus ready in cash (if we do it) and print off Slav’s P45 too.
Maclean, Chester and Batth were all very good todayWas half expecting Ba’ath to boot one in his own net late on ! ;D ;D
Do you think the Brentford fans are saying the same about their manager after todays result? I think not.weve not just been poor in 1 game weve been poor since December. I dont think Slav is good enough. Passionate yes good not really.
I put £100 on a Brentford win to ease the pain. Happy to lose that. How much do I put on QPR Wednesday is the question? 😂😂😂
Jenkins needs to pop down to the bank on Monday and get Bilic his promotion bonus ready in cash (if we do it) and print off Slav’s P45 too.
weve not just been poor in 1 game weve been poor since December. I dont think Slav is good enough. Passionate yes good not really.
weve not just been poor in 1 game weve been poor since December. I dont think Slav is good enough. Passionate yes good not really.
With our strike force and keeper it's a miracle we're this close to promotion.
My thoughts exactly. His jobs only going to get harder IF we go up and I don’t believe he’s up to the task. Great, likeable personality but not a good enough manager.
They had a couple of close shaves near the end, but overall the Stokies matched them and were up for it. That stand in keeper for Butland wasn't bad.
Give it up. Bililc took charge with a 2 year plan to get us to the Prem. IF (BIG IF knowing us!) we go up, then we're a year ahead of schedule.
We were already a year behind schedule when the 2 year Bilic contract was negotiated.
weve not just been poor in 1 game weve been poor since December. I dont think Slav is good enough. Passionate yes good not really.
So we've been good for half a season, poor for half a season - and you're taking the poor half as evidence he's not good enough? Why not take the good half as evidence he is? If we get promoted, then he IS good enough to stay in charge. You don't sack a manager for getting you promoted too soon.Do you think his decisions since returning from the break have been any that a sane person would make? Taking off a fighter and leaving on a chicken without a head?
Do you think his decisions since returning from the break have been any that a sane person would make? Taking off a fighter and leaving on a chicken without a head?
Weve thrown away points in this past 3 weeks that are due to his ineptitude and stupid decisions. Teams dont fear us like they did in the first half of the season.
The point about the keeper and strikers are valid but why not try up and coming players breed them if not why was this not sorted in Januarys window? He seems clueless when we have a hard game, when we have to break teams down he Hope's Grady and Pereira can get us out of the proverbial. I would have tried Robinson up front, Hal is Dire, Austin lasts about 30 minutes so try something new.
How many weeks have we been in top 2 ?
I think that if we do get promoted and that’s still a big IF, as a mark of gratitude we should allow Stoke to beat us twice next season.
😉
But we'll be in different divisions, surely ;)
Unless you are attempting to rub it in a little with them :D
3-0 FulhamThey'll need a few more to close the GD on us
From a neutral perspective it would be interesting to see Brentford in the Premier League. Would prefer them to win the playoffsI'd rather anyone else at this point, their fans are a bunch of weirdos who think they're owed Premier League football so I hope they fail.
I'm not saying he's not made mistakes - I just don't think they're worth sacking him for. I see the logic in taking off Livermore for someone with a bit more passing guile - I disagreed with the decision but there is some logic there.mate I was all willing to go again with Zohore if not Robinson. He hit the woodwork the other week with a cracking shot. That doesnt make him a good player but there must have been something in the scouting.
I'm not convinced the transfer window was the managers fault - how much say does he have in what we spend and where?
I agree about trying Robinson up front, I'm as critical as anyone of our front three, I refuse to believe that Bilic is happy with the options he has - we can all see it so I'm sure he can.
Disagree about throwing in youngsters up there - we need the points, they're pressure games, that's not the time to blood youngsters in.
QPR suddenly found some form🙄 let’s hope it don’t carry on on Wednesday
Commentary when Fulham are on
1) how come in every other single name of work “Kn†is pronounced “n†not “kun�
2) when did “bobby Reid†become “bobby diplodocus Reid, postcode and date of birth†every time he touches the ball ?
You're entitled to your opinion, but don't think its widely shared.
1) Probably because that how his name is pronouncedThanks
2) Decordova added to respect his mother and her hard work.
I take we all do know that Brentford will win on Wednesday night?
I take we all do know that Brentford will win on Wednesday night?
Correct - but after Huddersfield the opportunity to hold promotion in our own hands come the final day was the best we could hope for - it’s up to us now - we will either deserve to go up automatically or have to take our chances in the lottery of the playoffs - nobody but us to blame if we fail...So you are saying...Bilic AND the players?
I take we all do know that Brentford will win on Wednesday night?
Albion and Brentford SHOULD win on Wednesday but if neither of us does and Fulham do then it’s Fulham who go up automatically on goal differenceShaddup!
Albion and Brentford SHOULD win on Wednesday but if neither of us does and Fulham do then it’s Fulham who go up automatically on goal differenceIf we both lose and fulham win they go up, but a draw would do it for us as theres a 16 goal difference swing.
Albion and Brentford SHOULD win on Wednesday but if neither of us does and Fulham do then it’s Fulham who go up automatically on goal difference
Fulham will go up automatically if they win and both Albion and Brentford lose
How many weeks have we been in the top 2?Since September.
Hoping Barnsley win today so they are still in with a chance on last game of the season against Brentford. Forest need a point to secure play-offs but are probably already there due to their superior GD.Yes, if they are already doomed, they may throw in the towel versus Brentford. Forest look to be in Play Offs whatever happens.
I am not entirely sure what anyone at Huddersfield was expecting. Now they are one ugly looking mess of a team (I know somehow we managed to lose to them) but they were that from the get go and at least the Cowley's had got a bit of discipline and shape to them. Just a very strange decision.
The Cowley Bros have kept them up playing the type of football you have derided in a recent post about Bilic.
Sounds like they've achieved their goal but the methodology was too unpalatable for the board and fans.
It's a decision some wanted us to take after comfortably reaching midtable in the PL.
Huddersfield's board don't strike me as the sort to care about the style of football, as Stan alluded to in his post. Wagner played dull football in his time there ad well.
A job for Hughton or Pearson maybe? Hughton my guess.
Leeds cruising... Derby going backwards..
Barnsley 1 Forest 0.
They'd have been relegated with any other result.
They now go to Brentford knowing a win and a defeat for Charlton (who are away to Leeds) and they will be safe. I hope we do the job ourselves but certainly will make things even more interesting.
They would need Luton to fail to win as well and they are home to Blackburn who have nothing to play for.
Wigan will go down unless they beat Fulham I believe.
They need to win yes but if Barnsley win too they both have 49 points. Wigan have a better GD.
4 teams could potentially end up on 49 points.
If Wigan win the points deduction won't happen until next season.
It will happen this season. The only way it would have been next season is if Wigan would have been in bottom 3 without any points deduction anyway.
This isn't how I understood it when announced however several news outlets agree with the version you have stated.
I think they'll beat Fulham so we'll find out then.
In the case of Wigan Athletic the 12-point sporting sanction, as a result of the Club entering administration, will apply immediately following the end of the game against Fulham but is subject to appeal.
Taken from EFL statement tonight
Can’t see any mention of Sheff Wed 12 point deduction would put them right in the doggy doo doo !
Can’t see any mention of Sheff Wed 12 point deduction would put them right in the doggy doo doo !
Derby could be heading for 21 point deduction my Derby fan mate tells me :oPut that on the Barnsley site, give them a bit more incentive!
Ridiculous how long that case has gone on for.
Case was heard 3 weeks ago and the club are still none the wiser.
The points deduction for Wigan is an utter farce. The EFL approve the takeover and then apply a penalty within 8 weeks due to admin of a takeover they approved.
Shambles.
Derby could be heading for 21 point deduction my Derby fan mate tells me :o
That's 10 more than they got in their entire last season in the prem.
Derby could be heading for 21 point deduction my Derby fan mate tells me :oFrom memory their alleged crime was similar to Sheffield’s, that of selling the freehold of the ground at a highly inflated price
It's not a farce, from what I've read online it's utterly disgraceful.
What a bottle job by Forest wow!!
The EFL’s position with Wigan has become a whole lot more difficult after tonight’s results
If they win the appeal. Barnsley will be straight down the solicitors.
The Barnsley Managers interview. Just wow ! How emotional
The Barnsley Managers interview. Just wow ! How emotional
If they win the appeal. Barnsley will be straight down the solicitors.
but how much money has Barnsley got to fight this in court..?
What a shame for that massive club Nottm Forest, don't see them giving it the big un now!
Colin Murray has just said Wigan have gained 7 more points than us in 2020 and have been relegated. Incredible stat.
Wow!
A couple of things this stat shows:
1) Our first half of the season was outstanding - just a relentless pursuit of promotion.
2) Something has gone amiss in the second half and we need serious investment if we are going to compete next season.
Point 2
I’ve heard there was a virus thingy ?
Point 2
I’ve heard there was a virus thingy ?
My 9.15am call with a Forest fan tomorrow is going to be fun. Thankful we're still working from home as the office would not be a fun place to be.
Edit:
To out it into perspective, I I cluded Forest as outsiders in my own Excel run in predictions, and now they are out of the playoffs. Crazy
Bravo.
So this virus thingy must be very selective as it appeared to affect us and not Wigan or Brentford?
Don't think Quest showed Watkins miss of a great opportunity at 1-1 yesterday for Brentford. Cross came in; on a plate about six yards out but produced a pure air-shot and missed the ball completely.
Birmingham have just announced that they are going to retire the 22 shirt with Jude Bellingham leaving.
I mean, he's a wonderful talent, but come on... ???
Birmingham have just announced that they are going to retire the 22 shirt with Jude Bellingham leaving.
I mean, he's a wonderful talent, but come on... ???
Birmingham have just announced that they are going to retire the 22 shirt with Jude Bellingham leaving.
I mean, he's a wonderful talent, but come on... ???
Who do y’all hope wins the playoffs? Any preference?
I'll say Fulham as its one of the best away grounds to visit and there's never any trouble.
Sorry I meant best advantage to us.Don't think you can say which would be the best advantage to us. Overall, I don't think we've too good a record against Welsh clubs, although we whopped Swansea last time.
Fulham clearly the best away day, and Brentford a new ground.
That said don't think away fans will be involved at all next season.
Cardiff or Swansea for me.
Anyone but Brentford
Brentford look the far higher quality team to me. Swansea have worked themselves into the game but they lack the same cutting edge Brentford have when they break at pace. That Benrahma chance at the end shows why for me he is the player who will convert his ability to the Prem easier than Pereira and Kalvin Phillips (again, personal opinion).
I do like the look of Brewster though. He strikes the ball similar to Mason Greenwood and he can leap. Looks a complete striker, should be playing premier league football next season and has an outside chance of competing with Ings, Wilson and Abraham for that final striker spot in the England side at next years Euro’s
Never a red that.
Wasn't even a foul. Couldn't happen to a nicer club.
No need to make the officials make a decision there, went tanking in when he didn't need to imo looked worse than it was probably in real time
No need to make the officials make a decision there, went tanking in when he didn't need to imo looked worse than it was probably in real time
Was Goodman spouting his don't send a player off unless you have no choice in these games for last year's play-offs.
Can the red card be rescinded? Is there time before the second leg?
Can the red card be rescinded? Is there time before the second leg?
Almost certain to be rescinded. Perfectly fair challenge.
If we played the season all over again it would be the same top 4.
Cairney missing against us, can certainly argue he's just as important to them as Mitrovic is.
I don’t think it would be. We’d struggle to make the top 6.Did we fluke all our points ?
Did we fluke all our points ?
No. However I think the second half of the season would be a better indicator of how we would do if we started again now.This is obviously a hypothetical discussion :) but I do think that some are forgetting that we did galvanise ourselves and had a run of 5 wins and a draw in February which had us opening up a small gap on Leeds let alone the rest. I just think that due to the quality of the squads involved, if all teams had a rest and came back in September it would be the same top 4.
Fulham look very good, take some stopping.
Almost certain to be rescinded. Perfectly fair challenge.
Almost certain to be rescinded. Perfectly fair challenge.
Reports coming in suggesting Brentford have agreed a 4 million pound deal with Peterborough for Ivan Toney (could rise to 9 mil with different stipulations), with personal terms already agreed as well.
Just to remind everyone, Toney was being looked at by a number of clubs, Brentford don’t yet know which division they will be in next season and they have a game tomorrow and then potentially (probably) at the weekend to get promotion.
Despite all this, they are that organised that they are tying up a deal for one of the top young strikers in the country.
This is why they are the best run club in England. This is what we should be aiming to be.
Reports coming in suggesting Brentford have agreed a 4 million pound deal with Peterborough for Ivan Toney (could rise to 9 mil with different stipulations), with personal terms already agreed as well.I'm not doubting it but 'reports coming in suggesting' is a bit vague - what's the source ?
Just to remind everyone, Toney was being looked at by a number of clubs, Brentford don’t yet know which division they will be in next season and they have a game tomorrow and then potentially (probably) at the weekend to get promotion.
Despite all this, they are that organised that they are tying up a deal for one of the top young strikers in the country.
This is why they are the best run club in England. This is what we should be aiming to be.
I'm not doubting it but 'reports coming in suggesting' is a bit vague - what's the source ?
Posh owner said multiple bids confirmed but won't be going anywhere for 4m
Almost certain to be rescinded. Perfectly fair challenge.Red rescinded, no 3 match ban for Henry.
Red rescinded, no 3 match ban for Henry.
I’m sure I heard earlier that Brentford’s new stadium only holds 17,000, surely that’s not enough to sustain an ambitious Championship club let alone a Premier League club.
This is sensational from Brentford; they are cutting Swansea apart.
The Swansea bench are louder than a fully-packed Vile Park - I for one hope Brentford shut them up.
This is sensational from Brentford; they are cutting Swansea apart.
The Swansea bench are louder than a fully-packed Vile Park - I for one hope Brentford shut them up.
They're whispering?
In fairness, they’re a bloody good side..
Which Prem club wins the race to get Brewster (if Liverpool let him go)Is he that special? Looks a bit slow, certainly not in Watkins, Benrahma's league.
Is he that special? Looks a bit slow, certainly not in Watkins, Benrahma's league.
He’s only just turned 20 years old and due to some unfortunate injuries has only played 20 league games. In the time he has scored 10 goals in the championship!Need to see more of him. Has he got genuine pace or is he just another big No.9 who holds the ball up?
At a similar age Ollie Watkins had a similar record... for Weston Supermare.
You are an extremely harsh judge it seems!
Is he that special? Looks a bit slow, certainly not in Watkins, Benrahma's league.
If Brentford go up I would expect them to be like Blackpool a few years ago, smash a game now and then but run out of steam, especially if they get injuries which they avoided this year
If Brentford go up, their recruitment model with Premier League money behind it coupd ve a game changer.
Respectfully they're nothing like Blackpool.
If Brentford go up I would expect them to be like Blackpool a few years ago, smash a game now and then but run out of steam, especially if they get injuries which they avoided this year
Don't think so.Maybe so, but everyone else has moved on since Blackpool were in the Prem, I was just thinking of a similar sized club historically who got up with a close knit group and couldn't hack the Prem. Maybe they will be Sheff Utd, as you say, we shall see!
The Brentford take on player statistics is far deeper and smarter. Its attitude to physical fitness far more comprehensive (cf sleep coaches) and alignment of recruitment to tactics more coherent than many teams I can think of.
We'll see on Tuesday evening, I guess.
Can’t see anything other than Brentford taking Fulham to bits in finalEvery time they have had a bit of pressure they have choked
Can’t see anything other than Brentford taking Fulham to bits in final
Don't think so.
The Brentford take on player statistics is far deeper and smarter. Its attitude to physical fitness far more comprehensive (cf sleep coaches) and alignment of recruitment to tactics more coherent than many teams I can think of.
We'll see on Tuesday evening, I guess.
Im rooting for Brentford, id love to see them get a place in the Prem, new ground, a great footballing model and they've been the best side ive seen this season.
As someone alluded to above, Fulham look like they should be better than they are currently showing, just doesnt look right to me, whereas Brentford look slick, sharp and full of imagination.
They were charged in November and it should have applied for this season.
On a personal level, I’m happy it hasn’t, but they will be absolutely stuffed next season.
Chansiri gambled and lost.
Aitor Karanka appointed Birmingham City Head CoachHe’s been there 20 minutes, they have retired the bench 😂😂
Affinity for them? As you say on a personal level.
Some of my best mates are from Sheffield and I’ve been a regular at Hillsborough over the years (in our PL days and fixtures didn’t clash). Likewise my mates up there have came and watched us down the years.Fantastic musings...
When I had my darkest spell following the passing of my Nan, I had a number of Wednesdayites who reached out to me, purchased my train and match tickets and took me to several pubs across the town. I was introduced as a Megson lover and never brought a pint all day.
There was no need for them to reach out, but they did. One particular supporter, often derided, goes by the name of Tango. His response, from a relative stranger, was the type of support I never had from family and friends.
I’ll be forever grateful. They are like us in many ways. Honest, hard working, loyal supporters let down by a failure in ownership.
My second paragraph could be extended upon (I was dating a blade which was the connection) at the time, but it’s something I shall cherish going forwards.
They will need at least 60 points next season, it’s not happening.
Sheff Wednesday hit with 12 point deduction for next seasonI can’t read the whole article. Is this to do with selling the stadium? Is this a similar situation that Derby might get punished for? If so, have the vile missed out being punished ?
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2020/07/31/sheffield-wednesday-handed-12-point-deduction-beginning-next/
Craps going to hit the fan now as they would be on 44 pts and relegated this season if applied now.
Some of my best mates are from Sheffield and I’ve been a regular at Hillsborough over the years (in our PL days and fixtures didn’t clash). Likewise my mates up there have came and watched us down the years.
When I had my darkest spell following the passing of my Nan, I had a number of Wednesdayites who reached out to me, purchased my train and match tickets and took me to several pubs across the town. I was introduced as a Megson lover and never brought a pint all day.
There was no need for them to reach out, but they did. One particular supporter, often derided, goes by the name of Tango. His response, from a relative stranger, was the type of support I never had from family and friends.
I’ll be forever grateful. From there, iit clicked & prior to meeting the love of my life, I spent a few years with a Wednesdayite.
They are like us in many ways. Honest, hard working, loyal supporters let down by a failure in ownership.
My second paragraph could be extended upon (I was dating a blade which was the connection) at the time, but it’s something I shall cherish going forwards.
They will need at least 60 points next season, it’s not happening.
Something along those lines I believe. Dubious bookwork regarding the sustainability rules. I believe Villa and zderby were due to be looked into also but probably got away with it now.
Aren’t derby under investigation as well thoughThe rules are very clear and consistent
Paul Cook resigns as Wigan Athletic manager.He's in line for Bristol City apparently.
Ex Dingle know but did a great job there, what a mess Wigan are in!
I can’t read the whole article. Is this to do with selling the stadium? Is this a similar situation that Derby might get punished for? If so, have the vile missed out being punished ?
Random question - why are they bothering to play the Championship play-off final at Wembley?
He's in line for Bristol City apparently.
Random question - why are they bothering to play the Championship play-off final at Wembley?It has to be a neutral venue....and assume there's a contract for Wembley to stage it which has to be honoured (money comes into it even with no fans).
Fascinated to see where he ends up next. He's done an amazing job there, even if he has had a poor last couple of years. Would prefer him to get a prem job next, but a lot of top championshio sides will now be looking at him.
Hughton, Cook and Howe all available. I'd hate to be a championship manager at an underperforming club right now.
It has to be a neutral venue....and assume there's a contract for Wembley to stage it which has to be honoured (money comes into it even with no fans).Wembley has to be paid for, hence the contract for all games such as semi finals to be played there!
Or a premiership team manager that luckily avoided relegation,Howe to villa is possible, they won’t be after the other two.....but I thought villa had agreed to take Bruno ...Portuguese manager.
Howe to villa is possible, they won’t be after the other two.....but I thought villa had agreed to take Bruno ...Portuguese manager.
That would be worrying if Villa got Howe. He's a very good manager and compared to Dean Smith is a magician. On their budget he could really improve them.Name a player he has spent big on that has looked better under him?
Fulham, Brentford have become arrogant big-time.
Wigan have lost their points appeal and are relegated
It looks like I'm the only person rooting for Brentford I think they've been brilliant this season - yes, their manager is a bit of a weapon, but the way they play footballing is a joy to see. They also have a loyal predominantly working class fanbase and aren't one of these tourist clubs (like Fulham).
Wigan have lost their points appeal and are relegated
That means the Antonee Robinson release clause kicks in. I wonder who will win that race?
He's not just any weapon, he's an industrial scale weaponised weapon. Given the football they play I was thinking I wouldn't mind him as our boss were Slaven Bilic to leave at any point. And then he started to appear in the press. Again, and again, and again...... and those eyes! What the heck's going on with those eyes? They must stretch to the size of giant beach balls when he's having a....... :P .... cup of tea?
Fulham for me please, weaker of the two and I couldn’t bear the media vvankfest until mid-September over Brentford.
I'm hoping for Fulham. It would give us a chance to get Watkins. Not as bothered about Mitrovic who wouldn't fit in as well with Pereira etc.
Also, Fulham away is a nice day out by the Thames.
Fulham for me please, weaker of the two and I couldn’t bear the media vvankfest until mid-September over Brentford.that would be unbearable yes
The premiership must be terrified watching this tripeClive.... Do you mean the Premier LEAGUE? Ooer. (I am the Bitch!) Clive
Do you mean the Premier LEAGUE? Ooer.I know what I meant :P :-[ :-*
Brentford goal in stoppage time makes Scott Parker look like an absolute mug. Hopefully doesn't happen.
Can’t take another 30 mins of this, good night
The repitive background crowd noise consisting of Cmon Brentford and Cmon Fulham starting to get on my nerves.
The repitive background crowd noise consisting of Cmon Brentford and Cmon Fulham starting to get on my nerves.
Get on the blower and make a bid for Watkins
Get on the blower and make a bid for WatkinsGetting the engaged tone ;D ;D
Every time Brentford have been under the pump this season they've crumbled.Stats close, though.
Zero bottle.
I'd be on the phone first thing in the morning with bids for Pinnock and Watkins!
Media were insufferable pushing the Brentford agenda in recent weeks so i'm pleased they've not done the job tonight.
Happy for both outcomes to be honest, I think Parker is a fairly ordinary manager, that Fulham team was head & shoulders above anyone else in the league this season, had they had a decent manager in charge they would have walked the league this year. Parker seems very stubborn in how he wants to play the game push the full backs up possession based and as Norwich have shown this season it doesn’t work for the bottom teams.
I checked Brentford’s board out a few times during the run in, seemed an extremely bunch of arrogant fans coupled with Franks attitude I’m glad the’ve fallen short. Really if they keep that team together they will win the league but the’l be a que for Benrahma & Watkins for £18m half the premier league will be in for him at that price.
I’m not sure they were. Us and Leeds had stronger teams on paper. Mitrovic, Cairney and Bryan are probably the only ones that would get into our team.
They stopped Benrahma cutting in from the left. He then drifted further back looking for the ball. Good defensive performance from Fulham. How the Brentford goalie fell the raised arm trick was hilarious.Spot on. Brentford scored so many goals this season from down the left Benrahma either playing in the full back or cutting in himself. Fulham did their homework on him.
Spot on. Brentford scored so many goals this season from down the left Benrahma either playing in the full back or cutting in himself. Fulham did their homework on him.
is Scott Parker a product of Gerry Andersons?
A cross between 2 thunderbirds characters?
At the beginning of the season, I wrote on this forum that I thought Scot Parker would be too inexperienced to get Fulham promoted and I expected him to be sacked before the end of the season.
Well, how wrong was I.
I take my hat off to you Scott Parker and well done in returning Fulham to the Premier League at the first attempt.
Exclusive by John Percy: Stoke to sign John Obi Mikel as club target promotion bid
Lots of talk both before today and still now from those close to the club (like Adrian Durham) that he has said he would prefer a Prem club move and may delay agreeing to sign for Brentford until he knows if others want him. While I think he is silly (Brentford have proven time and time again that they are the ideal advertisement for strikers careers), I think at the up front fee quoted we should really be looking. If we are going to stick rigidly to the English market, there aren’t going to be too many better options out there.
Oliver Skipp has also signed for Norwich on loan from Spurs. 19 years of age and with a Spurs first team appearances already under his belt, it’s a great loan move for both parties. Could even have been worth a go in the prem, but sensible from Sours to send him to the championship. I fancy Norwich to come straight back up, one of the few clubs doing lots of business.
DEAL DONE: John Obi Mikel has signed for Stoke City on a permanent deal. The former Nigeria captain was a free agent having left Trabzonspor by mutual consent.
"Wigan Athletic owner enquired about administration before takeover"
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53807173
Fit and proper, eh?
https://newstadium.brentfordfc.com/?utm_source=organic&utm_medium=navigation&utm_campaign=nsnav&_ga=2.18195257.144851644.1597771400-1780636153.1597771400
Brentford's new stadium looks interesting. Unusual for complete redevelopment that it is integrated into an existing urban area. Capacity only 17,250 though.
What’s with all the different coloured seats :DYes. Don't know if helps the corporate identity of the club, but its certainly a fresh look.
What’s with all the different coloured seats :DIt's possibly to make it look more as though there's a crowd there even when there's not
What’s with all the different coloured seats :D
It's possibly to make it look more as though there's a crowd there even when there's notI'm sure that's correct, one of the stands at Rodney Parade Newport has multi coloured seats and that's the reason I heard.
Luke Freeman signing for Forest from Sheff Utd. They are putting together a really competitive side to go alongside those who just fell short last season.
Norwich, Brentford, Forest, Bournemouth, Watford, Swansea and Cardiff, plus Stoke and Millwall makes for a fun division next season.
Luke Freeman signing for Forest from Sheff Utd. They are putting together a really competitive side to go alongside those who just fell short last season.
Norwich, Brentford, Forest, Bournemouth, Watford, Swansea and Cardiff, plus Stoke and Millwall makes for a fun division next season.
It's quite bad I suppose, but as the years have passed I've paid less and less attention to the Championship when we're not in it.
This coming season hoping Brentford crash and burn but beyond that very little interest.
It's quite bad I suppose, but as the years have passed I've paid less and less attention to the Championship when we're not in it.to be honest, I was like that with the Premier League even when we were in it. Only looking at a couple of teams that affected us directly but not really caring about the top. Barring the Villa/Sheffield game to see what it was like I don’t think I’ve watched a top flight game since we were relegated, I just don’t care.
This coming season hoping Brentford crash and burn but beyond that very little interest.
Where are Brentford getting their money from?
Have Leeds been relegated?
Where are Brentford getting their money from?
Brentford 1 down to Blues. 🤣
How did Toney look at this level?barely did anything, only his first game against a strong defensive side but not impressed.
Is Brunt injured I noticed he wasn't in the match day 18 for Bristol City?Fitness I would imagine
Ex Albion academy striker Marcus Forss scored for Brentford yesterday. 21 years of age, could be one that got away.
Is Brunt injured I noticed he wasn't in the match day 18 for Bristol City?
I imagine he'll be involved in the cup game. Can't wait for the meltdown if he scores.
Could have been us getting strumped 4-2 by Preston in the Championship rather than losing 2-0 away to a decent team in the Prem. Disappointing, worrying? yes. But perspective needed!
That famous 2-2 draw with us wasn't enough it seems. ;D
Forest sack their Head Coach
Forest appoint Chris Hughton
Forest appoint Chris Hughton
Bit of positive news for BLM as it’s Black History Month but doubt it will get a mention.Who cares politics and sport don't mix.
Forest appoint Chris Hughton
Who cares politics and sport don't mix.
Forest appoint Chris Hughton
Another 2 for Toney today. Flying now he's off the mark for Brentford.
I saw that...think we missed one there.
Toney has 2 more tonight..
In fairness to the rest of the Premier league and championship, there was no way of knowing Toney woild be good. No way at all.......
Sarcasm meter almost missed that one. Started a vehement reply 😂I reference my posts on this subject ! Entirely predictable
We'll be interested in Toney in 2 years when he's valued at £30m.🤑😩
With regard to the Premier League. Taking a player from League One with no interim step and playing him as your lead striker, well let's just call that brave. Now you might say bring him in as back up a squad player or a rotation option. That is absolutely not what Brentford have done nor is that what the player needs. He needs to be the lead striker and play as much football as he can.
Brentford are the absolutely sweet spot for the player.
Forss has 2 for the day now. The Albion academy forwards production line is pretty incredible when you look at the last decade. Easily our most productive position.
Yeah there are certainly questions to be asked about how we have handled players development.
The likes of Sinclair, Brown, Barry and Rodgers couldn't be helped as they were taken from us by clubs who could offer mote money, but Roberts, Forss and Leko all feel a bit like ones that got away. I'd agree that Wood was just a case of a hard worker developing his game over time, but on Roofe, could we have waited just a bit longer before letting him go to Oxford? He did move on the back of a great loan spell after all.
Berahino remains the only forward who has had his best spell while with us.
I just hope that we handle this current group a bit better. Morton, Windsor, Malcolm, Tulloch et al, some talent there who could do the same as the others.
With the amount prem sides spend on players, there is no reason why a prem club wouldn't sign him and then loan him straight out. Brighton have after all just spent similar amounts on 2 Polish lads who they have sent back to Poland on loan.
It didn't take much foresight to see that Toney was a brilliant investment. Analytics followers have been calling this for 12 months and Brentford were publicly after him for some time.
Surely an Everton, Leicester etc could have seen it?
Adam Armstrong had just scored his second goal of the game this evening vs early pace setters Reading (I make that 9 goals for the season already?).
Ivan Toney only has the one tonight so far, needs to hurry up. Norwich currently 1-0 in that game vs Brentford, surely Farke has to go soon?
We should be ready to sign Armstrong if the chance arises and we can find the money.
We should be ready to sign Armstrong if the chance arises and we can find the money.
We should be ready to sign Armstrong if the chance arises and we can find the money.
I see Toney has scored again for Brentford
Scott McKenna has scored for forest. Another who it seems many looked at but couldn’t seem to make their mind up about. By all accounts he’s looked very good for forest so far and at £3m could be another steal.
He is a defender though. Once we'd got Kipre in and until the sale of Hegazi I'm not sure another defender was on our radar.
Sheffield Wednesday have sacked Gary Monk this eveningSheffield Wednesday links
Neil Moxley TweetIts sad that football bosses still feel the need to call on Pulis when in trouble. It will ultimately damage Sheff Wed. as a club and their reputation, as well as the game in general as an entertainment spectacle. As for Megson, whilst he's not quite as extreme in his negative tactics, I'm sure the pair could easily see eye to eye on quite a lot.
"If Tony Pulis does go to the Owls, I hope he takes Gary Megson with him. Megson absolutely bloody loves that club with every fibre of his being."
It would be good to see at least one of these back in management. No prizes for guessing which one
Sheffield Wednesday have sacked Gary Monk this evening
I hope they don’t pinch Paul Cook...
Monk can have no complaints with his sacking either - he has been awful.
Do you have something in mind for him?
No need for a reply ;)
Its sad that football bosses still feel the need to call on Pulis when in trouble. It will ultimately damage Sheff Wed. as a club and their reputation, as well as the game in general as an entertainment spectacle. As for Megson, whilst he's not quite as extreme in his negative tactics, I'm sure the pair could easily see eye to eye on quite a lot.Please no sniping at SGM, I would have him back in a heartbeat, and yes I'll say it again , if we had kept him on instead of giving the job to Pardew we would not have gone down.
John Percy Tweet
“ Interesting development from Thursday's EFL board meeting: many Championship clubs are keen to introduce the five substitutes rule. Will go to a vote (possibly by next week) but many in favour.â€
Premier League teams should also be allowed 5 subs
If 5 subs allowed will it mean a bigger bench with 8 or 9 on.
Gros still won't make the bench !
If 5 subs allowed will it mean a bigger bench with 8 or 9 on.
Gros still won't make the bench !
Derby have sacked Cocu.
Pulis is finished. The days of getting every last drop out of average players doesnt work in the Championship anymore. Far much money better players and managers from he was Stoke . Has a decent team with Boro and didn't amount to much
shrek will get the gig.......I wonder if Derby would take Nigel Pearson on for a second time, although I note they have the same owner in place.
Adam Armstrong had just scored his second goal of the game this evening vs early pace setters Reading (I make that 9 goals for the season already?).
Ivan Toney only has the one tonight so far, needs to hurry up. Norwich currently 1-0 in that game vs Brentford, surely Farke has to go soon?
He’s going nowhere now.
You gave him the kick up the backside he needed :D
DEAL DONE: Derby County have re-appointed Steve McClaren as the club's new technical director and advisor to the board. (Source: @dcfcofficial)
The "Brolly" is back
Telegraph Football Tweeted
Championship clubs are demanding a meeting with referees' chief Mike Riley over the poor standard of officiating this season, with complaints ranging from blatant mistakes to concerns over fitness.
I would be interested to see the stats of how many referees there are in the country now compared to say 10 or 20 years ago.
My gut would tell me there are less, and this is impacting on the standard of professional refereeing. It's all well and good berating the standard of officiating but if they have nobody else to choose from, what can they do in the short term?
If the numbers have dropped as well you can easily see why with the level of abuse referees get up and down the country at all levels - it would put me off doing it.
I went to a Cheshire Leauge match last weekend, this bloke gave the linesmen not just abuse, but verbal threats. All for a few quid. Why would anyone want to be a ref, linesmen when people can go that mad at you without any security presence
Ben Foster howler gifted Huddersfield a second goal
I saw that elmo, what the hell was he thinking?Sorry I meant first goal here https://twitter.com/htafcdreams/status/1340313912605073411?s=09
John Percy TweetedBilic will top their list.
Watford set to sack manager Vladimir Ivic after just four months in charge
John Percy Tweeted
Watford set to sack manager Vladimir Ivic after just four months in charge
Bilic will top their list.There goes any hope of us possibly seeing him return under new owners in the future. However he might to take a break or want security not ruin his reputation by getting sacked in a few months time. But for Watford fans I do hope they get Bilic a Nice Bloke, who genuinely cares about football. But for Slav's own sake I hope he doesn't with the way Watford Work he will be out in a few months
So Watford sack a man who's team were 5th in the Championship!The Way Watford are run they could Jorgen Klopp in charge 30 points at clear at the top lose a few and he is out.
So Watford sack a man who's team were 5th in the Championship!
Weren't we 4th when we sacked big Dave?
DEAL DONE: Watford have appointed Xisco Muñoz as the club's new head coach. (Source: @WatfordFC)Hasn't he managed them before?
So Watford sack a man who's team were 5th in the Championship!
No he's only been managing for 4nyesrs.mate
Yes but it's Watford at the current rate of turnover everyone will be Watford manager for a day
I know the rent money helps, but have you seen the state of some of the pitches, due to Rugby teams using themSame complaints were made after both the NFL and Challenge cup final took place at Wembley ahead of either an England Game or a Spurs Game. Lucky old Albion don't share a ground with the Blackheath Rugby team if it is the Blackheath West Midlands area and not the London one. Edit they are London based which means lucky us don't have to share a pitch with anyone unless Wednesbury need a bigger ground for a final or something
Swansea's pitch is like a ploughed field, and the pitch at Brentford's new stadium is getting there
Same complaints were made after both the NFL and Challenge cup final took place at Wembley ahead of either an England Game or a Spurs Game. Lucky old Albion don't share a ground with the Blackheath Rugby team if it is the Blackheath West Midlands area and not the London one. Edit they are London based which means lucky us don't have to share a pitch with anyone unless Wednesbury need a bigger ground for a final or something
We can't be forced to share the stadium. It would be our choice to make extra revenue.Which knowing us we would extra money for the owners.
Which knowing us we would extra money for the owners.
We wouldnt. There is no money for us to make in sharing our ground for rugby purposes given their is no immediate rugby club near us.Wednesbury only like 20 - 30 Minutes away I know they have a Rugby Club as they are down the road from me also they have allegedly the Worlds biggest Rugby Posts. Worcester to which has now been flooded I don't know about the Rugby Ground but I know Worcester has had flooding
Wednesbury only like 20 - 30 Minutes away I know they have a Rugby Club as they are down the road from me also they have allegedly the Worlds biggest Rugby Posts. Worcester to which has now been flooded I don't know about the Rugby Ground but I know Worcester has had flooding
The Hawthorns would never be ground shared for the sake of 30 rugby fans and a few whammels.I always spelt it wammels.
I always spelt it wammels.wammals mate
wammals mateI bow to your superior knowledge.I have lived outside of the Black Country for 63 years.
I bow to your superior knowledge.I have lived outside of the Black Country for 63 years.
I always spelt it wammels with an "e" as well Clive and found this reference:
"A wammel is a mongrel or mangy dog, and sometimes a word for any animal. Apparently it comes from am Old English word hwaemelec."
Did you get hwaemelec from the Carl Chinn article?
https://ibostin.wordpress.com/history-of-bostin/
Sheff Wednesday have sacked Pulis after 45 days.
Ironic really, as Rooney's appointment feels a step closer to the Rooney rule.
That's 4 of the "Golden Generation" who have landed quite plush jobs for their first managerial gig (5 if you count Phil Neville as part of the group) - all white. Meanwhile, Rio Ferdinand stays in punditry, Ashley Cole is coaching within Chelsea's academy, Ledley King is making do with assistant coaching roles and Sol Campbell bounced around the lower leagues.
I've made a lot of excuses and don't like the Rooney rule as it doesnt tackle some wider issues in English football, but Wayne Rooney getting the derby job makes it harder to argue against.
Ironic really, as Rooney's appointment feels a step closer to the Rooney rule.The bloke at Doncaster seems to be doing ok?
That's 4 of the "Golden Generation" who have landed quite plush jobs for their first managerial gig (5 if you count Phil Neville as part of the group) - all white. Meanwhile, Rio Ferdinand stays in punditry, Ashley Cole is coaching within Chelsea's academy, Ledley King is making do with assistant coaching roles and Sol Campbell bounced around the lower leagues.
I've made a lot of excuses and don't like the Rooney rule as it doesnt tackle some wider issues in English football, but Wayne Rooney getting the derby job makes it harder to argue against.
DEAL DONE: Cardiff City have announced Mick McCarthy as their new manager. (Source: @CardiffCityFC)
Terry Connor as his assistant.......
Terry Connor as his assistant.Joined at the hip those two. Really nice guys. I met them a few years back when they were at the Dings. I was walking the dog alongside the canal near the Navigation Inn (Kingswinford area), wearing my Albion shirt , and they were cycling and had stopped for a rest. Mick started up a conversation straight away by asking me about aspirations for the new season. We chatted for about 15 minutes or so.
The old band are back together
Wilshere has scored for Bournemouth. Far better player than Sawyers.
Winston Reid loaned to Brentford. Could have done a job?
Charlie Austin scored again for QPR
Bournemouth sacked the manager, currently in 6th.Paul Cook has the potential to be a good manager I wouldn't have minded him.
Think Paul Cook will take that role.
Lampard being linked too but can’t see him taking that.
Paul Cook has the potential to be a good manager I wouldn't have minded him.
I mentioned him as Bilic’s replacement before we had Sam.
I didn’t believe we would stay up this year as the squad needs too much of a overhaul as 80% aren’t good enough. Think with the right support he could build a good team.
Would have kept Wigan up last year if it wasn’t for the points deduction. Very good manager for that level.
I see Ivan Tonie as scored again!!
Got 19 goals now like Karlan Grant last season ;DI know which one i'd rather have!
I see Ivan Tonie as scored again!!
I'm still scratching my head why no premier league team thought he was worth the gamble at that price.
I'm still scratching my head why no premier league team thought he was worth the gamble at that price.
Is Foster injured for Watford ?Yes , hand injury about three weeks now
Two more for Toney today. Good job we went with the better option....... :-\Just posted about that in the transfer rumours page. We should have signed him.
Toney with a late winner sends Brentford top of the league, bloke scores for fun.
It's great news for us. We need Brentford and Norwich out of the league next season. If the play off place could be taken by Watford (or Bournemouth), even better.
Swansea will be hard to overcome next season due to their approach, plus Fulham and Sheff Utd who should be in a healthier position than us, but after that most clubs don't have any money (it remains to be seen what will happen with Derby's takeover).
What about the two teams that come down with us?You might want to read it again. 😉
You might want to read it again. 😉
Brentford are going to stop "taking the knee".Further increasing my respect for that club and how it is run, commonsense at last.
Field comes on as sub and scores to equalise within 10 mins 9f coming on then Austin puts QPR ahead against Brentford.
3 in 5 for Austin now :(
Good player at that level. Misused last season.
Good player at that level. Misused last season.
Rumours of the capped one taking over at Blues, got to feel for the noses Karanka then Pulis really is football purgatory, we think we have it bad with Lai you only have to look over there to see that it could be worse they are a complete clown show at boardroom level.
Brentford love bottling it don’t they.
Brentford are going to stop "taking the knee".
It will be interesting when 1 club does and their opposition does not. What do officials do?
I would like to think its down to the individuals feelings on the matter. (but being a cynical old bugger .....)
Rumour mill doing the rounds in Lincoln that Bristol City are keen on Appy...rumour mill also says they want experience and will probably end up on Howe.
rumour mill also says they want experience and will probably end up on Howe.
Brentford doing their level best to throw promotion away again..2-0 down to Coventry..
Brentford doing their level best to throw promotion away again..2-0 down to Coventry..
Jonathan Woodgate apppointed new Bournemouth boss till end of season.
Latest on the Champiomship/HMRC £100million pay outWhat is apparent is that some sports are getting grants and some are getting loans . Can’t help feeling that all,should be treated equally.
The Football League and the Government were on the brink of major conflict last night after the Treasury put the brakes on a season-saving £100 million-plus loan for the Championship.
Second-tier executives raged that they were being treated harsher than other sectors, after Her Majesty’s Revenue & Customs insisted on unprecedented curbs on goal bonuses, new contracts or wage rises.
A Bank of England-backed Covid loan facility – sought by the English Football League with a £15 million Premier League handout to cover interest and fees – had been due to be paid to clubs this week.
However, a host of cash-strapped clubs were placed at severe risk of being left unable to pay bills last night as it emerged the rescue package may be withheld completely due to HMRC’s demands.
With other sports handed access to a £300 million winter survival fund, clubs feel they are being discriminated against because of a history of overspending on wages in the Championship. A new stand-off between the League and Government over the clauses could be particularly disastrous when PAYE deferrals expire. An EFL spokesman last night told The Daily Telegraph: “We are extremely disappointed by the developments at this late stage of our discussions and we will continue to strongly negotiate with HM Treasury to secure a solution that meets the requirements of Championship clubs and is consistent with the parameters other industries are being asked to meet.â€
Championship clubs were informed on Thursday night that there will be a delay on the proposed loan, less than 12 hours before they were expecting the first instalment of funds.
“It’s not just been delayed, there are no guarantees of any money at all,†said one club executive.
Under the proposals of the loan, clubs would be unable to offer their players any form of improved deal.
In December, a £50 million grant was agreed for League One and League Two clubs to protect their futures during the pandemic. After protracted and often tense negotiations over the summer, the Premier League also agreed to provide £15 million to the EFL and help guarantee a loan facility.
Championship clubs are understood to have been expecting a figure in excess of £100 million from the Bank of England and the Treasury’s Covid Corporate Financing Facility (CCFF).
However, nearly three months later, Championship club chiefs were in crisis talks to avert another major dispute. It is understood that 14 of the 24 Championship clubs requested an interest-free loan, but are now facing another delay for the funds to arrive.
In a letter sent on Thursday night, and obtained by The Daily Telegraph, the EFL wrote: “We received notification from HM Treasury that it is demanding that the pay restraint attached to the CCFF is to be applied not only to the Football League Company but now also the Championship clubs involved in the loan.
“HM Treasury also added that they deem ‘Relevant Individuals’ captured by the restraint, which in most companies includes board directors and senior executives, to include players registered to the club. Nearly a month ago, we sent a note to HM Treasury outlining the reasons why players should not be included in such a restraint but this has been rejected and we are obviously extremely disappointed by this stance.â€
Gallingly for clubs, the break- down in terms came as Oliver Dowden, the Culture Secretary, announced the Women’s Super League and FA Women’s Championship would receive a combined £2.25 million grant for “essential league costs, in addition to a proportion of 250,000 free Covid-19 lateral flow testing kits being made available by the Government to elite sports, with women’s sport designated as a priorityâ€.
England Netball and the Vitality Super League netball will also receive a total of £4.2 million in grants, which has already provided the expanded league with the confidence to start its 2021 season on Feb 12. British Basketball League clubs, including Women’s British Basketball League clubs, will receive £2.5 million in grants and loans, while Basketball England will receive a £200,000 grant.
Well that puts to bed the Thierry Henry and Patrick Viera rumours then.
What is apparent is that some sports are getting grants and some are getting loans . Can’t help feeling that all,should be treated equally.they could, but most sports are unable to repay loans of that size and for others the money needed is too vast to give away in grants. if the larger loans have interest, they'll recoup a percentage of the grant money if not all of it.
Jonathan Woodgate apppointed new Bournemouth boss till end of season.
What is apparent is that some sports are getting grants and some are getting loans . Can’t help feeling that all,should be treated equally.The financial gap between the Premier League and the Championship may have just got larger.
Weird appointment. Didn’t pull up many trees at Middlesbrough
Any trees I would say, he was fairly awful. Extremely odd appointment for a side needing promotion with the squad they have
Austin scores again
Championship level at best!
Austin scores againhe likes scoring at Blues dow he.
Darren Moore appointed the new manager of Sheffield Wednesday.Must be mad , rotten that club .
That job is a poisoned chalice at the moment.
Must be mad , rotten that club .
Sorry Liam :o
Barnsley's form has dipped of late so he may have jumped before his stock falls. He may also have some news re a Wednesday takeover and transfer budget for next season at a club with a higher profile.
On the face of it he's made a questionable career move along the lines of Appleton earlier in his career. Truth is we've got no idea what's going on behind the scenes. Time will tell.
It's not a Darren Moore move for me and it has left me baffled, he appears a loyal and honourable gentleman yet moves at the first knock at the door while having a successful season.
I can only think he has an inkling that his time was up at Donny !Or maybe, just like any one of us, he was offered a fair chunk of dosh, despite results, and may land a job later. He’s on the gravy train. He’d be fool not to get on board. He deserves every pound. And no doubt the charities that will benefit. Good luck chap!!
While Chansiri is an absolute liability I think it's easy to forget Sheffield Wednesday are a huge club in comparison to Doncaster Rovers.
Doesn't matter then as he was Doncaster's manager! :P (anyway Barnsley are doing really well too).........
I was talking to my son about Darren Moore's move yesterday and said Barnsley then too. I'm officially losing the plot :-X .
Another goal for Austin. Field on bench.
I noticed Big Dave has come into two clubs who have been left in a mess after Pulis was in charge us and Now Sheffield Wednesday. Ok for us we had Pardew in to but still my point stands, i would have thought Big Dave would have not touched any mess that was left by Pulis with a 18 Foot Barge Pole after what happened here.
I noticed Big Dave has come into two clubs who have been left in a mess after Pulis was in charge us and Now Sheffield Wednesday. Ok for us we had Pardew in to but still my point stands, i would have thought Big Dave would have not touched any mess that was left by Pulis with a 18 Foot Barge Pole after what happened here.There were rumours in the papers that Pulis was being lined up by Wednesday as Darren's mentor! ???
I noticed Big Dave has come into two clubs who have been left in a mess after Pulis was in charge us and Now Sheffield Wednesday. Ok for us we had Pardew in to but still my point stands, i would have thought Big Dave would have not touched any mess that was left by Pulis with a 18 Foot Barge Pole after what happened here.
Sheff Wednesday were a mess before Pulis arrived and he only had 10 games in charge of them, you can blame Pulis for many things but not the mess at Sheff Wednesday.
Bowen or Bowyer?
Bowyer
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/56402521
Bowyer
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/56402521
Means dowling cant appoint his old mate (if the club haven't got rid of him as DOF & if we are looking for another manager come summer)Boyer would be to adventurous for us probably don't know his style but if it is quite attacking forget it even if his Dowling's mate
Edit: also he might get a tune out of leko who did well under him at charlton. Wonder how Harper gets on?
Wayne Rooney's Derby County recover from 2 nil down for a point at home to Brentford who appears to be bottling it again. Down to 4th 5 points adrift of Watford in 2nd.That's what Brentford Get for trying put us off promotion although, Brentford can't bottle the play offs twice can they can they. ;D
That's what Brentford Get for trying put us off promotion although, Brentford can't bottle the play offs twice can they can they. ;D
Don't think anyone wants to meet Barnsley tbh.Wait Barnsley are in there I thought there were in the relegation dog fight.
Wait Barnsley are in there I thought there were in the relegation dog fight.
Nope, they're playing some super-high pressing football and doing really well. Think they have taken a couple of years to sort their off the field issues out, but seems like it's paying dividends.Fair Enough give it a few years and they might be in the Premier League then I guess.
didnt barnsley have 1 season in Prem a few years back ?
didnt barnsley have 1 season in Prem a few years back ?
Does 1997 count as a few years back?
didnt barnsley have 1 season in Prem a few years back ?
Barnsley are doing great, under the circumstances, but so do we at that level. They will suffer the same fate as us if they scrape promotion, doesn't matter what style or system they use.
The only difference will be their levels of expectation will be less so they might actually enjoy the experience.
The difference being in the Championship our budget is about 3 times the size of theirs. It would be interesting to see how they approach a season in the Premier League. I am fairly sure that they will take the money and run in the hope that they can grow the club over the longer term. I doubt they would do much worse than ourselves and Sheffield United have this season but that's a pretty low bar.
On the subject of taking the money and running it will be interesting to see how Norwich get on in the Premier League for a second time under Farke. They look much more improved defensively this season compared to 2 seasons ago and that is what killed them last year.
Blues are doing a dodgy dance on the edge of an open cesspit.Watched their game yesterday mate and they were awful. Rekeem did ok , but first half in a 4-4-2 alongside Gardner, they were overun by Chalobah, Hughes, and Gosling. Managed to stay on for the full match again though and Garner was the one taken off as FIVE subs used.
Neil officially gone. Wasnt he wanted here before?
There was reported interest in him when we fired Moore and some suggestion that he used the interest to get an extended contract from PNE. Ran with a shoestring budget any talent sold from underneath him not sure what he is supposed to achieve at PNE. Ride the variance until the inevitable downturn and he managed that for 4 seasons. Fair play to him someone will get a decent head coach and he might do well at a different club.
Big Dave is 3 up on Dingle Mick...
Big Dave is 3 up on Dingle Mick...
Big Dave is sat at home whilst someone competent leads the team today ;)
And that someone competent confirmed Moore was providing the advice and guidance and did their half time team talk through zoom ;)Big Dave doing the Great Escape maybe ;D I mean I hope he can but they are to far gone now
Is Dack still at Blackburn? Last I heard he was crocked (again!) worth a punt?
Is Dack still at Blackburn? Last I heard he was crocked (again!) worth a punt?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-9438517/amp/Championship-facing-financial-armageddon-TEN-clubs-placed-transfer-embargo-month.html?__twitter_impression=true
As of last month, 10 Championship clubs were under a transfer embargo. 2 of those (Huddersfield and Stoke) appear to have been admin errors and not financial ones, but it tells you something about the division we are going down to.
We need to be sensible this summer.
Norwich 5 0 up at HT against Huddersfield.
5 more points from 6 games to promoted as it stands.
This continuity / planning ballcrap is over-rated, it really is !
Three wins and a draw for blues in the last 5 matches. With that form at this time they’ll be just fine.
Brentford continue to flop. Held at home by Blues. Calls for Frank Out on Twitter. :o
If Watford get promoted, at least Ben Foster won't have a dillema where to play next season!
If only the game were played on paper instead of that green stuff.....
I tend to agree the only thing that makes the 3 relegated absolutely nailed on for the top 3 places is the adjustment that relegation involves. It would seem that Bournemouth have handled that the least well this year but are still in the top 6 places.So in a nutshell, if we’re relegated, we, and other clubs, and bookies, and pundits, are just waiting to see what happens with squads during the summer break.
My view is that if we keep Allardyce it is very much promotion or bust and yes that means top 2 is the target with the the play-offs offering a safety net if we don't quite make it. The whole approach will be very much geared for the here and now whatever is spent will be spent on an Championship all star XI with only aim in mind. It might crater if it fails but there is only one target.
Personally I would favour a deeper reset with a longer term view and leaning more heavily on our own young players and a recruitment policy also aimed at the development end of the age range. Yet even here year one target should be play-offs minimum.
With regard the other two likely relegated teams it remains to seen exactly how they land in the Championship. Both Fulham and Sheffield United on the face of it enough quality to bounce back but there will be turnover of players and not to mention Head Coach appointments. Parker needs to go in my view and Sheffield United are without a Head Coach at the moment and their Chairman resigned so there is plainly some flux there.
We are at very much at the ante post stage of this market we pretty much know the runners but not the riders.
So in a nutshell, if we’re relegated, we, and other clubs, and bookies, and pundits, are just waiting to see what happens with squads during the summer break.
Norwich confirmed promoted. On paper next season should be a doddle. Looks a poor league. Will wait to see who's in charge 1st game though before I make any bold claimsI don't think it will be a doddle. If we do get relegated, I think its likely to go down to the wire for us, and then you are always dependant on that extra bit of luck with refereeing decisions, injuries or just good finishing in front of goal. And we will probably have to compete without Yokuslu, Maitland Niles, Pereira, Gallagher, Diagne, who we won't be able to replace with the same quality. Maybe Diangana will regain his form and maybe Robinson will get better. But don't expect the likes of Grant or Zohore to make the difference.
I don't think it will be a doddle. If we do get relegated, I think its likely to go down to the wire for us, and then you are always dependant on that extra bit of luck with refereeing decisions, injuries or just good finishing in front of goal. And we will probably have to compete without Yokuslu, Maitland Niles, Pereira, Gallagher, Diagne, who we won't be able to replace with the same quality. Maybe Diangana will regain his form and maybe Robinson will get better. But don't expect the likes of Grant or Zohore to make the difference.
If Norwich can walk it with an inferior team to the one that got relegated and Watford not far behind them this squad should do the same. Note i say should. Let's see who is in charge first.
If this Norwich team that's just gone up (congrats to them btw)doesn't invest heavily they will be straight back down for me.
Oh, 100% and however well run they are (and i’m a fan), I do have some doubts about their scattergun recruitment.
Puts ours to shame. We are now rebuilding the rebuild in less than 2 years.
Sheff Utd are in a worse place than us. No Wilder and very much a Wilder squad.
Berge only signed 18 months ago. I think he has another 3 years on the deal.
As for Sheff Utd, we will have to see in the summer where they go with the new manager and who they buy and sell, but their strike force as I said earlier today looks like a goldmine of championship goals. Combine that with 3 very good defenders as well as players like Sander Berge and on paper they are only a few creative midfielders away from being a very good side at that level.
Didn't they pay £23 million for Brewster from Liverpool and he didn't manage to score even once? (I think there were quite a few on here who suggested we go after Brewster).Well thank god for our recruitment team not being knee jerk then.
That makes perfect sense..what I said doesn't ;D
Who the hell am I thinking of unless I'm getting confused and he has a relegation clause.
John Lundstram.
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Personally I would favour a deeper reset with a longer term view and leaning more heavily on our own young players and a recruitment policy also aimed at the development end of the age range. Yet even here year one target should be play-offs minimum.
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If we don't restructure and continue to rely on wheeler-dealing in the loan and transfer market for worn out veterans who are intent on building up their pension fund and not getting injured we may go up but there's every possibility that we will be down again very quickly.
Watching Fulham
Why has tosin adebayo suddenly become just tosin
Possibly because, like you, people can't get their head around his actual surname? ;D
It feels fairly predictable that a Wayne Rooney managed team is currently in free fall towards League 1. Rooney has never shown any signs of being much of a footballing thinker and crucially had no relevant experience. He got the Derby job based on his name alone, which shows just how poorly run they are.
If Rotherham could get a win from one of their two games in hand, or even a draw, it would make things very interesting. They have a better goal difference as well. Sheff Wed also have to play Derby, they have an average Forest team up next.
Would be a big relegation if that happens.
Agreed. Can't remember derby playing lower than the second tier in my lifetime. Have they ever played at that level?
Unusually aside from the Derby Rotherham Sheffield Wednesday triangle the Championship is done and dusted with 2 games to go :o
Ivan Toney was voted EFL player of the season for the second consecutive season.
£5m bargain that we should have been all over even with the add ons Peterborough wanted.
Crossing my fingers for Swansea win too.
Derby could be a rival next season if the new owner invests, plus I think they should face the consequences of poor decisions over a number of years, including hiring Wayne Rooney as manager.
0-0 at half time, stats so far:
Swansea 65%. O shots. 1 corner. 7 fouls.
Derby 35%. 1 shot, on target. 3 corners. 11 fouls.
Match comments read like it's an extremely poor game overall. I know one team's already secured a playoff spot and the other needs not to lose but blimey.
Crossing my fingers for Swansea win too.
Derby could be a rival next season if the new owner invests, plus I think they should face the consequences of poor decisions over a number of years, including hiring Wayne Rooney as manager.
Stan gave a detailed and well explained rationale for why prem clubs didn't sign him and why Brentford were always the perfect club in the right place at the right time to take him on, but I believe Brentford would have signed him whether they had promotion or not.But when the grant signing didn’t work straight away....who’s to say Toney would have worked?....also the “because he was wanted by Brentford he has to be a hitâ€, should we try to get Romaine Sawyers from them then?
When we gambled £15m on Karlan Grant, a player Huddersfield had themselves picked up from league one 18 months before, I can't help but think we really should have just been braver and opted for the bloke lots and lots of people had been saying was a sure fire hit in Toney. After all, if Brentford wanted him, he has to be a hit as their striker scouting is second to none.
Dear me, where's the guy that predicts Stoke are the team to watch every season since they went down? ;D
But when the grant signing didn’t work straight away....who’s to say Toney would have worked?....also the “because he was wanted by Brentford he has to be a hitâ€, should we try to get Romaine Sawyers from them then?
Would hate to be a Derby fan right now.
Strong possibility of relegation to league 1 this weekend and now rumours that a second takeover attempt this season could be about to fall through.
Would hate to be a Derby fan right now......
I'd hate to be a Derby fan at any time.🤣🤣🤣🤣 Class!
I'd hate to be a Derby fan at any time.I’m taking a lot of pleasure in their current demise too.
Dear me, where's the guy that predicts Stoke are the team to watch every season since they went down? ;D
Would be great for Big Darren Moore to add to his last day achievements and send Wayne Rooney's Derby down.
Come on Big Dave!
I'd love to see Darren Moore standing in front of Wayne Rooney with his hands on his hips and his foot on the match ball following a Sheffield Wednesday win with a photo caption saying 'Roo's Laughing Now Wayne?'.
That thing when life comes at you fast ;D .
Still here and still waiting :-[
I'd love to see Darren Moore standing in front of Wayne Rooney with his hands on his hips and his foot on the match ball following a Sheffield Wednesday win with a photo caption saying 'Roo's Laughing Now Wayne?'.Or a a donkey's head photoshopped with Rooney's fizzog (A-la Graham Taylor's turnip) with the headline "Donkey's Derby" :D
That thing when life comes at you fast ;D .
Or a a donkey's head photoshopped with Rooney's fizzog (A-la Graham Taylor's turnip) with the headline "Donkey's Derby" :D
I think I've got the permeations on the Derby, Rotherham and Wednesday three way relegation shoot out.
Both Rotherham and Wednesday have to win to have any chance of staying up.
If Derby win they stay up.
If Wednesday win but Rotherham win it is Rotherham that stay up
If Derby and Wednesday draw then Rotherham stay up if they win.
Go Wednesday do it for Darren.
From an Albion perspective for next season it doesn't matter both Derby and Wednesday are such a mess on and off the pitch that a solid mid-table finish would be an achievement. Rotherham might be the bigger threat.
Not arguing, however the highlighted statement is quite salutary, BUT its this which gives me hope for next season, our poorer players will be very competitive in this league and we will surely be challenging at the top with decent coaching and team / in-game management
I think I've got the permeations on the Derby, Rotherham and Wednesday three way relegation shoot out.If either of these stay up they may just be tempted by a certain, ex-England, CM. (Fingers crossed emoji) (Toes crossed emoji) (Praying to the heavens emoji)
Both Rotherham and Wednesday have to win to have any chance of staying up.
If Derby win they stay up.
If Wednesday win but Rotherham win it is Rotherham that stay up
If Derby and Wednesday draw then Rotherham stay up if they win.
Go Wednesday do it for Darren.
From an Albion perspective for next season it doesn't matter both Derby and Wednesday are such a mess on and off the pitch that a solid mid-table finish would be an achievement. Rotherham might be the bigger threat.
Not arguing, however the highlighted statement is quite salutory, BUT its this which gives me hope for next season, our poorer players will be very competitive in this league and we will surely be challenging at the top with decent coaching and team / in-game managementI'm not anywhere near as optimistic for next season, until we see who the replacements are for the 6 or so players we will probably lose. Of the players on our books, only the defence looks reasonably solid. Diangana, Phillips and Robinson can sometimes turn it on, but other than that, we will need alot more quality and consistency in midfield and forward.
Wednesday look desperateI'll say it again later for Liam's sake .
3-2 Wednesday
Big Dave back in League one next season. Like the bloke i really do but sometimes his decisions are baffling. He was doing a decent job at Doncaster, i understand that Wednesday are a big club but what was he thinking taking on that mess???!!
Being ambitious is one thing but DM needs to learn to slow his own roll a bit for the sake of his long term managerial career.
I just don't think he's a great manager, sadly. Only he could go to a place and score 3 goals without winning. He's always involved in high scoring goals but if you're a fan of his teams, they're incredibly nervy and frustrating to watch. It's a shame, I wanted Derby to drop.
I never rated him here, he messed up that 2018-19 season big time but i thought that was lack of experience more than anything. Due to the fact i like him on a personal level i want to see him succeed but he's got to pay his dues and the learn the ropes for years down the lower leagues and he doesn't seem keen too.He gets another chance next season, chairman permitting
....Only he could go to a place and score 3 goals without winning......
Michael Appleton......Sir Alex Ferguson had a team score 5 and not win. it happens to alot of managers.
Sir Alex Ferguson had a team score 5 and not win. it happens to alot of managers.
Sir Alex Ferguson had a team score 5 and not win. it happens to alot of managers.
I never rated him here, he messed up that 2018-19 season big time but i thought that was lack of experience more than anything. Due to the fact i like him on a personal level i want to see him succeed but he's got to pay his dues and the learn the ropes for years down the lower leagues and he doesn't seem keen too.
Gutted for Big Dave. Rooney is a lucky man.might have known Rooney and penalties go together like cheese and onion
Gutted for Big Dave. Rooney is a lucky man.
I just don't think he's a great manager, sadly. Only he could go to a place and score 3 goals without winning. He's always involved in high scoring goals but if you're a fan of his teams, they're incredibly nervy and frustrating to watch. It's a shame, I wanted Derby to drop.
Big Dave's goals per game as a manager is about 2.8. So in the matches he's every managed, there's been 2.8 goals per game, on average.
By way of some context:
Sir Alex Ferguson - 2.85
Roy Hodgson - 2.6
Sam Allardyce - 2.5
Wayne Rooney - 2.1
So over the course of a 46 game season, that's about 14 goals between Big Dave and Sam Allardyce.
It's not nothing, but I don't think it's a particularly strong rod to beat DM with.
Point deduction was always going to hurt Wednesday.
Yet the super league 6 still have not recieved any punishment
Derby County could yet be relegated, saving Wycombe Wanderers after the EFL won their appeal.
Source: MailOnlineSport via Twitter.
Watching the Bournemouth vs Brentford play off semi and it's hard to pick the winner. Both having a go as you'd expect.
Hope Brentford can turn it around.
I think they will be a bigger threat to us than B'mouth next season and if the 3 relegated sides go straight up in the year Parry is trying to scrap parachute payments, it helps build his case for him.
Most worrying though is that I would fancy Brentford to beat Swansea or Barnsley slightly more than I would B'mouth. The idea of having to face both of them next season, plus Sheff Utd and Fulham makes it a much tougher league than we need.
I'd be surprised if Parry could impact on contractually agreed parachute payments. As such I doubt any changes would be in place to affect our next two seasons.
I'd be surprised if Parry is still in a job by the time it's up for discussion. Talk about the fox in the henhouse.
Barnsley remind me abit of the old Albion teams under Megson. 3 at the back with wing backs, direct style & press the ball getting in the oppositions face.
I'd be surprised if Parry could impact on contractually agreed parachute payments. As such I doubt any changes would be in place to affect our next two seasons.
I'd be surprised if Parry is still in a job by the time it's up for discussion. Talk about the fox in the henhouse.
That's not how I remember it ;D
I'm here for Brentford bottling it again.
That's not how I remember it ;D
3-1 Brentford. Thomas Frank moaning throughout first half about B'mth timewasting, but his team far worse when they took the lead.
Yes I saw that.I remember Brentford doing similar against us. Benrahma in agony for ages on ground, seconds later sprinting like in Olympic games.
Earlier in the week I suggested on another thread that we should be looking at Frank as a replacement. Changed my mind now, the bloke is a clown and the goal they conceded was straight off the playground.
Don't like Brentford, but can't help admiring how they play or go about their business! As well based on their income!
Only thing I admire at brentford is the scouting system, they have got it right far too often for it to be luck, Its statistically based from what I read.I think their owner is Danish so they cream off alot of up and coming talent from Denmark.
I think their owner is Danish so they cream off alot of up and coming talent from Denmark.
Football aside though their general gamesmanship does them no favours in my eyes. As for Thomas Frank....... what an odious, arrogant XXXXX.agree but they all do it these days, it's something I hate but we always almost seem too nice in the modern game by comparison!
Isn't it basically like the moneyball system?
What a goal that was from Woodrow, if Barnsley don’t get up I’d love him up the Albion next year out of contract in the summer as well I think.
Im hoping for Brentford promotion today
They will be more of a threat to us next season if they're still around
Showing highlights of Swanseas previous play off campaigns on sky no mention of the 1993 semi defeat at the hawthorns
If they survive their first season in the PL i can see them solidifying themselves as a top flight club. They are way ahead of us as a club.
Edit - Also thats the end of Swanseas parachute payments i believe.
As they say in Game of thrones though, the wheel keeps turning. Whilst the media will love Brentford's success story, it's all been seen before. It wasn't long ago Swansea did similar...Bournemouth too. Ultimately if you're not a top 6 side with big money, you will probably do well to stick around in that league for 10 seasons, if you're lucky.
I agree, I think Brentford can probably stick it out for a couple of seasons. Swansea are out of money it seems and Ayew will leave so from our point of view it's not bad. However, returning to the wheel, what's the point anyway?
I think Brentford's infrastructure gives them an advantage. Their transfer system is fantastic for the money they have. The club are all pulling in the same direction and everyone seems competent at their job so they are far ahead of us. I'm glad they have gone upThey have the ability to turn water into wine in the transfer market which is amazing and yet still get promotion. Where as we have the ability to completely **** our budget up the wall and get relegated. It will interesting to see if they can succeed with this policy next season or will they succumb to the trap that the rest of us fall into?
I'm fascinated to see how Brentford's recruitment team handle premier league millions. Could be some sensational business. Not being in the EU anymore might hurt their business model a bit but I'm sure they will get around it.
Whatever happens next season though, Brentford with parachute payments are probably assured of promotion even if they did come down. That feels like one premier league spot seen up for the next half a decade or more.
I hereby predict Ivan Toney will tear up the premier league min 15 goals (barring injuries)
I disagree - every year there's a hyped up club in which pundits praise their infrastructure and it often doesn't lead that far. We did it years back with Ashworth, whilst it wasn't Moneyball he had his own unique methods and scouting that worked. Then you had Swansea who were the in team, next was Bournemouth who were the first team to get promoted and really play attacking football, then Watford with their own transfer system, then Brighton who have a genius owner and have also built up from the bottom. You could even throw Wolves in their with their own transfers but with more money. Even Huddersfield who only stayed for two seasons were once touted as a long-term Premier League team simply due to having a German manager.
All of the clubs (bar Wolves and Brighton) have all gone up and down without really making a long-term impact other than Swansea who won an FA cup. It's strange because amongst all of this are Burnley, probably the most ugly team in the Premier League who are doing similar but don't get any attention.
My point is the media loves a success story, especially with underdogs so Brentford will get lots of attention next season. They may well stay up for 5 years or so. But if you're outside the top 6 then survival is tough. A key scout will retire or their director of football will get poached and they will get relegated.
You say you disagree that Brentford could have a top flight place sewn up for half a decade or more but then finish by saying "they may well stay up for 5 years or more". I'm wondering which bit you disagreed with?
I agree outside the top 6 (plus Everton) you are only one bad season away from relegation, but there are a number of sides in the top flight now who have had prolonged periods there and even when they go down they usually bounce straight back up again.
Of those you named, we had an 8 year spell thanks to Ashworth's foundations and have spent 10 of the last 13 years in the top division. Watford are about to embark on their 7th season in 8 in the top flight, Bournemouth had a 5 year spell, Swansea had an 8 year spell and Brighton are about to embark on their 6th.
I think Brentford will join that group, as I just don't see how they fall apart. Their success isn't built on one man who could leave them ala Dan Ashworth, instead it's their owner and the large team (including 2 technical directors) he has built around the club. Even if they fall short this year, with parachute payments giving them an advantage over the championship, added to their superior recruitment, they surely bounce straight back.
My wider feelings are that they are another club who are starting the slow squeeze on our hopes of establishing ourselves back in the top flight. Well run clubs like Brighton, Wolves, Leicester, Norwich and now Brentford are in the top flight and that's taking potential places away from us.
We really need a plan now on how we can start to match them as we have fell behind over the course of the last decade.
Aren't you pleased that we gave Toney the swerve and bought a player for 3 times the amount?Entirely predictable that Toney could step up and someone on here did predict it! Oh yeah, it was me 😊
Entirely predictable that Toney could step up and someone on here did predict it! Oh yeah, it was me 😊
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Scott Parker is set to leave #FulhamFC this week, with talks ongoing. Bournemouth are keeping a close eye on the situation #afcb. Story with
@JBurtTelegraph
A few clubs in the Championship to keep an eye on, with them getting their business dine very early.
QPR have just completed their 5th signing of the summer with former England youth prospect Andre Dozzell. They are probably the side most likely to emerge from the pack to threaten promotion.
Luton Town have just completed their 3rd signing with highly rated Motherwell youngster Allan Campbell. I think Luton are trying to go the way of Barnsley and Brentford having hired Jay Socik who was well respected amongst the online football analytics community.
Of the rest Huddersfield have so far made 5 signings, while Blackpool have 3. Promotion rivals Barnsley have 2.
Expect to see a few teams getting things done early this month now everything is starting to move.
A few clubs in the Championship to keep an eye on, with them getting their business dine very early.
QPR have just completed their 5th signing of the summer with former England youth prospect Andre Dozzell. They are probably the side most likely to emerge from the pack to threaten promotion.
Luton Town have just completed their 3rd signing with highly rated Motherwell youngster Allan Campbell. I think Luton are trying to go the way of Barnsley and Brentford having hired Jay Socik who was well respected amongst the online football analytics community.
Of the rest Huddersfield have so far made 5 signings, while Blackpool have 3. Promotion rivals Barnsley have 2.
Expect to see a few teams getting things done early this month now everything is starting to move.
Cameron Jerome and Henri Pansbury sign for Luton Town. Jerome feels an odd signing at 34.Luton have lost Collins to striker so guess Jeromes a short term replacement
Just watched our 4-1 win over Leeds in 2018 on Sky Sports Football. For my money the best performance since Moore took us down (edges the Swansea and Chelsea wins due to quality of opposition and no red card respectively). Hard to believe it was nearly 3 years ago.
Izzy Brown signs for Preston on a 1 year deal only. Oh dear. Does have a 1 year option though.
My starting position is "see, should have stayed at Albion", but then you consider the struggles he has had at his last 4 clubs and yet at 24 going on 25, he will still get a 5th chance at Championship level.
Redeem Harper is about to drop down to League 1.
You can fail down to the championship if you fail at Chelsea - you can't do that so easily at West Brom.
Just watched our 4-1 win over Leeds in 2018 on Sky Sports Football. For my money the best performance since Moore took us down (edges the Swansea and Chelsea wins due to quality of opposition and no red card respectively). Hard to believe it was nearly 3 years ago.
Just saw the EFL statement - incredible. The powers that be in the EFL really want to relegate them, you can see that. How quickly can they assess Derby's account submissions though? Especially given Derby's right to appeal.
Can they get the appeal out of the way, can Derby submit years worth of accounts, the EFL review them and then make a decision on relegating Derby all in the space of a few weeks? Seems really tight, I just don't see how they can.
Wouldn't be shocked if Derby get a big points deduction this season instead.
Craig Gardner is the new technical director at blues. There’s a rise in of ex-players looking to go in to those sort of roles now. I dont think it’s impossible an ex player could do a great job but I think it’ll be the exception rather than the rule.This is commonplace on the Continent. If the ex-players have used their time to learn some commercial or business skills, and can manage people, they are perfectly set up. They have all the benefit of their experience in the game, and where the ex-player has a lifelong affinity to the club, as Gardner has at Blues, its ideal.
This is commonplace on the Continent. If the ex-players have used their time to learn some commercial or business skills, and can manage people, they are perfectly set up. They have all the benefit of their experience in the game, and where the ex-player has a lifelong affinity to the club, as Gardner has at Blues, its ideal.
Is it though? Or are there just a couple of high profile examples? Bayern and Ajax spring to mind but they are both very unique examples.I can't do a comprehensive survey, but from my knowledge of the German and Dutch leagues, its widespread. The Werder Bremen DoF, Frank Baumann, played together with Ismael at the club. Ex-players like Frank Arnesen have made a living from it at several clubs, Fredi Bobic is DoF at Hertha Berlin, Hitzelsperger at Stuttgart, the Everton DoF, Marcel Brands, is a Dutch ex player.
All seems really boring and pointless. Not sure Bournemouth are getting anyone great to be homest.Howe to Fulham?
He was a cracking right back in the early 90's though Stan 😁
Wilder and Cooper joint favorites for the Fulham job but it just screams Frank Lampard and I scream don't it but then I remember they are in the same division as us next season and I say WTG I'm team Frankie Goes To Fulham.Looks perfect for Lampard. Won't even need to move house.
Scott Parker officially appointed new Cherries manager tonight.
Paul Parker was quality in his prime.
5 days after losing Ismael, Barnsley hire Markus Schopp. Impressive, no messing around, well run club.They do seem to like the Austrian League, but I had to look up the bloke's club, TSV Hartberg, in Wikepedia, because I'd never heard of it!
5 days after losing Ismael, Barnsley hire Markus Schopp. Impressive, no messing around, well run club.
Wilder and Cooper joint favorites for the Fulham job but it just screams Frank Lampard and I scream don't it but then I remember they are in the same division as us next season and I say WTG I'm team Frankie Goes To Fulham.I'd think more that Lampard got Derby into the play-offs and Fulham this year are likely to have a much stronger squad than Derby did, especially once the inevitable loan signings have been made.
That's interesting because everything I have read about the work permit rules for managers says Schopp should not get a work permit. He hasn't coached at anything like the level required to be waived through and remember Lage who had managed Benfica was only granted one on appeal.Even though I had to find out about his club from Wikepedia, they are in the top Austrian league, so surely he qualifies on that basis?
Yet he seems to have given up a job in Austria to join Barnsley I have to assume that both he and the club are confident he will be able to work in the UK. Don't get me wrong I think it is a good thing that clubs in the lower leagues have access to the overseas talent pool post Brexit but as far as I can make out that is not what the rules say. Clarity on this issue would be welcome.
I have clarity on managers work permit criteria courtesy of Mills & Reeve (Specialist Sports Solicitors)With Ismael now in post, the question for us is likely to turn to permits for players or coaching staff. Although people have been focussing on Barnsley players, Ismael only spent a year there, so he probably has far more knowledge and contacts with players across Europe. Hope any plans he has to bring some in are not too restricted by the new regulations.
1. Pro License or equivalent
2. A minimum of 36 months in total as Head Coach in Teir 1 -5 league (Austria is level 4) or 24 consecutive months
3. The above must have been in the last 5 years
Where Lage fell over is only had 12 months at Benfica. It does rule out assistant coaches or taking coaches from the B or youth system from Bundesliga clubs. I was under the misunderstanding that it was restricted to coaches with Teir 1 league experience.
Fulham in talks with Marco Silva
I wouldn't write off Silva too quickly. He was on an incredible career run before it all went wrong after the Watford to Everton messy move. I'd probably be more worried about his seemingly argumentative personality than his managerial ability - he seems to fall out with the hierarchy at most clubs.
He did enough at Hull to get the Watford move thanks to him taking a bottom placed, awfully run Hull side and getting them close to challenging for safety and his Watford tenure started that well that Everton tried to get him after only a few months. The fact that he tried to push for that Everton move so quickly, showing a really poor attitude and the fact it backfired both with his drop off at Watford and subsequent average job at Everton puts me off him, but I wouldn't write him off too quickly.
This is a coach who took a mid table, 2nd Division Portuguese side to 2 Europa league finishes in the top flight, a manager who won a cup at Sporting and a manager who set a European record 17 straight wins at Olympiacos.
He isn't my first choice but I think he is an improvement on the very ordinary Scott Parker
That will be one team we don't need to worry about if it goes through...
I'm sure you said similar about Dean Smith to the Villa ;D
He's still dining out on the fact that someone forgot to plug in the goal line technology.
I think the reason for Silva's long absence from the game was that he was on gardening leave from Everton and any job he was likely to get would have paid considerably less. I think he still might still have some of that contract left but he can't leave it much longer to get back into the game.
Brizzle look to be making some reasonable signings for the short term, Matty Cash and Andy King from Leicester will add a lot of experience and quality
Matty Cash from Villa??
Matty Cash from Villa??
Matty James. They're also strongly linked with HRK 😂
Just picked up that Hull, Reading and Derby are under transfer embargoes which pretty much excludes them signing players for a fee this summer.
Blues keeper Neil Etheridge is in hospital with CoVID. Only 31 as well. Hope he comes back stronger.
Percy has just tweeted that Steve Cooper is leaving Swansea by mutual agreement.
Aren't Swansea one of the clubs lauded as much better run than us?
Aren't Swansea one of the clubs lauded as much better run than us?They are more consistent in their managerial selections than us...that is they try to stick to the 'Swansea way' instigated by Martinez and Rogers. There's no getting away from the fact that over the past decade a lot of players have left there for significant fees (Joe Roden the most recent) and only a relatively small proportion has been re-invested on incoming players. It sounds as though this has had an impact on Cooper's decision. More young players seem to get a path into the 1st team at Swansea than us but that's partly out of necessity due to the lack of significant new signings.
They are more consistent in their managerial selections than us...that is they try to stick to the 'Swansea way' instigated by Martinez and Rogers. There's no getting away from the fact that over the past decade a lot of players have left there for significant fees (Joe Roden the most recent) and only a relatively small proportion has been re-invested on incoming players. It sounds as though this has had an impact on Cooper's decision. More young players seem to get a path into the 1st team at Swansea than us but that's partly out of necessity due to the lack of significant new signings.Factor in that we have never not gone up before the parachute payments have run out or finished outside the top 6, which, for me is a fantastic achievement, yet is rarely quoted.
Following in from the unfortunate Izzy Brown news, today it’s Sam Field’s turn, who has now injured his knee in training and looks likely to miss the start of the season.
Also, Swansea are in talks with John Eustace (QPR assistant manager) to take over from Steve Cooper.
Liverpool’s Harry Wilson, linked to us in the media, is on the verge of a move to Fulham
Derby & Terry, marriage made in heaven :-\
Derby would be a foolish move. I didnt realise how much of a mess they were in until I read a story yesterday.
Apparently they only have 8 recognised first team players. They had been unable to sign anyone but the EFL have granted them permission to sign 4 players. They can only be loans or currently unemployed though and i suspect probably not on big wages.
The teams that play Derby early should have an advantage. Who knows if they will be allowed (or even able) to do more before the end of the window. We play them shortly after the first international break in mid September. Shame it isnt 3 weeks earlier.
You missed out the Wayne Rooney story that just broke. Their manager caught in a hotel room, sleeping after meeting them in a nightclub. Hardly the kind of solid homelife/role model a football team needs in terms of their manager.
In further you couldn't make it up news from Derby County.
Derby midfielder Jason Knight’s going to miss up to 12 weeks after getting injured in training.
The person who tackled him?
His manager, Wayne Rooney.
It's a car crash it really is.
Oh to be a fly on the wall when they repeat their thoughts about Bristol City to Nigel Pearson...... ;D .
Russell Martin appointed as new gaffer at Swansea
Meanwhile...... Swansea's players release their wives from a number of locked cellars whilst simultaneously removing their chastity belts upon the news that John Terry is NOT the new gaffer at Swansea.Yeah, doubt there was much cause for concern under Cooper.
Have a look through some of those starting XI's and benches today... Make no mistake it will be an absolute disaster if we finish outside the playoffs this season. Covid and parachute payments have killed this league.
It's a 4-horse race for me, I'd be amazed if anyone outside the 3 relegated teams and Bournemouth finish in the automatics.
1-0 Fulham, Harry Wilson.
Phil Jagielka reportedly signing for Derby County on a free according to John Percy. They're also hoping to sign Sam Baldock (subject to EFL approval) as Kazim Richards is injured.
Phil Jagielka reportedly signing for Derby County on a free according to John Percy. They're also hoping to sign Sam Baldock (subject to EFL approval) as Kazim Richards is injured.
Both already done around lunchtime on short term deals until Jan 2022
Kazim Richards was their best attacker last season. Out for 12 weeks - that's them done I think.
Very early days I know but Fulham already two up at millwall, they clearly look the best team in the league. It feels we are playing for second at best. I can’t believe they have held onto mitrovic
Fulham should not encounter too many problems this year. Best squad in the league and adding to it.
I think the’l go up automatically but I think the’l be abit like us the season we went up under Bilic outstanding for 4 months & struggle towards the end. Silva’s teams seem to start like a house on fire then run out of steam, they are miles infront of everyone else squad wise though.
Where is Harrison Reed? Excellent midfielder and he’s not even in the team. I’d love him up here
Some of the goals in this league, makes me smile it does.
It’s a fantastic division - it really is.
Quality is a bit naff at times but it’s genuinely a league that is unpredictable where everyone beats everyone.
I think the points record could be in danger this season if Fulham don't get complacent, it's a really poor league this year. Look at their central midfield options:
Zambo Anguissa
Seri
Reed
Onomah
Cairney
That's £60-70m worth of players there.
Very premature imo. They looked extremely rattled by Millwall at the end. Nowhere near as good as the Wo1ve5, Leicester or Newcastle sides that stormed the league.
I'm not going back 16 years to Reading.
And yet we are told that fans were ridiculous for thinking we could get £25m.
I don't really understand why more clubs weren't in for Pereira. People will quote the Al Hilal offer, yet that came in only 3 weeks before he left. Where were they before? Such a strange situation. Either way, Pereira is top flight proven, Danjuma isn't. We need to learn to sell properly.
Clearly the deal Lai made for MP gets worse and worse with every passing day as we see other transfers take place.
Worse for who though? I bet Lai has done well out of it.
whos done the best business so far, ins & outs. clayheads seem to be excited
Morgan Rogers has signed for Bournemouth for the season on loan with option to buy included
Could turn out to be a absolute gem. 6 goals and 4 assists in your first 25 games pro games at 18 is a great return. Minimum expect him to be a top championship player if he stays injury free.
I just looked up Isaiah brown on wiki to see where he was now (preston)
My God hes had some injuries i have never seen a player with a 10 year career be out injured so frequently
(Mods please feel free move post to ex players if you prefer it there)
2-0 Fulham, if we win tonight us and Fulham can start pulling away ever so gradually from the rest of the rubbish in this league.
Gotta say i hope QPR v Coventry is a draw!
Still really early but SHU looks like no threat for promotion this year
QPR just scored ;D
I’m not writing Sheff Utd off just yet. Jokanovic’s sides are known to be slow starters, they have a loaded squad with potentially more money to spend and once he gets through to them they could easily go on a run and make the ground up.
There are however worrying signs. Their strength on paper looked like the forward line, but McBurnie and Brewster haven’t got going after a year or two of prem football and could easily suffer from Berahino syndrome where they never quite get back on track. They also have a nucleus of players who thrived under a different style of football under Wilder and it could be that when deployed under a more attacking, intricate passing style, they are exposed.
Sander Berge, John Egan, McBurnie and Brewster should all be top end players in this division so I’d still bank on them coming good, but I’m getting more hopeful that they will struggle.
Just watched the blues v derby it was a terrible game technically but decent enough watch. Cant see Birmingham forcing their way to playoffs derby were god awful somebody is going to hit them for 6 at some pointAnd Cu*tiis Davis was a star defender 8)
Lukaku scores against Villa, 1-0Big man on for a few today I reckon :)
Big man on for a few today I reckon :)
By the way, this is the Championship thread.
Big man on for a few today I reckon :)
By the way, this is the Championship thread.
Thought that was where the villa should be :P . and we stuffed the other lot at their place so they ay really prem am they? (Sorry couldn't resist it :) ;) :D)The Vile should be playing Sutton Coalfield Town I've nothing against Sutton Coalfield Town by the way :D
The Vile should be playing Sutton Coalfield Town I've nothing against Sutton Coalfield Town by the way :D
The Vile should be playing Sutton Coalfield Town I've nothing against Sutton Coalfield Town by the way :D
Forst opening talks with Steve Cooper after sacking Hughton according to John Percy
Quite surprised that it never worked out for Hughton to be honest. Thought he would have had them in and around the play offs
Just reading an article about it on the Athletic 'Inside Hughtons Demise'. Can copy and paste it if you are interested.
I would be interested Gazberg if you can post. Seems quite strange what's happening at Forest atm.
Cheers, an interesting read.
Think they will need a decent/well-fitted appointment this time to stop them from going down.
Why do you have to pay Compo to get Cooper ?
Percy just Tweeted
Statement imminent from Derby to announce they are appointing administrators. Situation with EFL still unresolved over possible points deduction. In short, a mess.
I'm sure it's not possible or a ridiculous thought but, is it possible for us to be awarded the point that Derby 'earned' off us?
I'm sure it's not possible or a ridiculous thought but, is it possible for us to be awarded the point that Derby 'earned' off us?
I love how their statement has a pop at the EFL - almost forgetting that they breached profit and sustainability rules, took on an unaffordable £45m wage bill and subsequently sold their home to cover it..
Berahino scores for Owls !!
Owls are League 1 Albionic. Is that his first for them do you know?Yep realised as soon as I hit send- hey ho, yes it’s his first
"John Percy
@JPercyTelegraph
#ReadingFC set for heavy deduction of up to 9 points after breaching financial rules. Like Derby, Reading are in talks with the EFL over an "agreed decision" as per regulation 85."
Tut tut.
There's more to come too. Forest certainly being looked at. Relegation this season could be entirely decided by the severity of FFP points deductions.
There's more to come too. Forest certainly being looked at. Relegation this season could be entirely decided by the severity of FFP points deductions.Shows what can happen if you really are a badly run club.
Offside for me from the replay but no VAR here. Goal stands.I agree can’t see how Lino missed that
I agree can’t see how Lino missed that
2-0 Fulham, Mitrovich again
Good finish but that was such a suicide pass in the build up. No urgency about Swansea whatsoever
Hey Baggies, I see you mention Mitrovich scoring 20+ goals for Fulham and he's their main man, what happens when he gets injured/suspended?
I much prefer our scorers to be spread around and not dependant on one man
I think we'll win the league this time
Stoke for me I real contenders this time around. After this weeks results worst case scenario is we will be third albeit the pack will have closed in a touch but they will have to play each other at some time. By end of October we will have played away to the teams currently 2nd, 3rd, and 4TH. After last night Bournemouth have played the 3 promoted teams and failed to win any of them.Are they? It was only last week they lost to Derby, they have also been battered by Fulham, which is the only team near the top they've played. They have us, Bournemouth and Sheffield Utd next, we will soon see how good they are. Our real contenders remain unchanged to me, if we finish above Fulham and Bournemouth, we are up.
Hey Baggies, I see you mention Mitrovich scoring 20+ goals for Fulham and he's their main man, what happens when he gets injured/suspended?
I much prefer our scorers to be spread around and not dependant on one man
I think we'll win the league this time
I think we could have problems with either of these. Fulham overall playing better football and strong all round, but Cov know how to put decent attacks together.
Great 3rd goal and they look good Coventry!
Lee Hendrie is very difficult to listen to on commentary though.
That Gykoreres forward for Cov looks quite useful!
I remember a poster the other day saying how good Fulham are, Mitrovich great player
What's gone wrong then?
If Mitro doesn't score Fulham do not have a plan B
We will beat them in a few weeks time, their defence is poor
I remember a poster the other day saying how good Fulham are, Mitrovich great playerCoventry came out 2nd half completly different team. Won the midfield battle and then hit Fulham with quick through passes, and forwards then delivered. However, their pen looked like a dive as no contact.
What's gone wrong then?
Their supporters have been posting threads about “the greatest Championship squad of all time.â€
If there were ever a competition to punish arrogance and hubris, it’s the Championship. They look complete and utter fools.
Mate if you listen to our Facebook expert 'fans' we don't have a plan B either :D
Their supporters have been posting threads about “the greatest Championship squad of all time.â€
If there were ever a competition to punish arrogance and hubris, it’s the Championship. They look complete and utter fools.
First openly gay ref, Neil Adcock. Carry on reffing!?!don’t see why I should care? He’s gay, whooptee do.
don’t see why I should care? He’s gay, whooptee do.Its a childish and politically incorrect joke. Read his name out loud.
Its a childish and politically incorrect joke. Read his name out loud.
Its a childish and politically incorrect joke. Read his name out loud.ah, that joke went over my head. Because James Adcock has just come out and read it as that.
Good for you neil, what a courageous man. Hes going to get pelters online unfortunatley. Im hoping the page is turning as the homophobic attitudes arent as present as they are in older generations. Maybe in 30 or so years gay players dont have to live in secrecy, and when they do come out, they wont be soundly abused like they would now . fingers crossed
I’m still quite surprised a player that knows they are in their last season or two hasn’t come out. They’d guarentee themselves a decent post football media career if they played it right.I thought a current young superstar at Man Utd, after pictures of him kissing another man were circulated around social media last season, would have come out by now
Not that it should be used for those reasons, but it could be.
Willock doing well at QPR, assist for Dykes
Bournemouth have signed Robbie Brady on a free.
Sort of Brooks replacement I guess. Will be interested to see how he does as I thought he was a free that we may consider with this system.
Why didn't this stoke turn up against us
Why didn't this stoke turn up against us
Perhaps we made them look good.
We have to "up" our game.
Nottingham Forest have the same number of wins (5) and draws (1) from the recent 6 games.
They are 12th at the moment.
Steve Cooper turning things around quickly at Forest it seems. Good manager.
Blades lost again. Us, Bournemouth and Fulham still far and away the best 3 teams in the EFL. Stoke no great shakes after the last 2 games.
Us 3 being the best teams on paper doesn't guarantee promotion of course. Need to find a quality striker in January and we should be ok though.
I didn't expect a Scott Parker managed side to do so well. I see him as an ordinary manager who has fell into favourable jobs, but this is a remarkable run for Bournemouth.
The run / turnaround was actually started by Steven Reid. Still can’t quite understand how Hughton was doing so poorly. There’s no doubt Steve Cooper has got off to a great start though, even if he has had a favourable run of fixtures. He was my 1st choice for the job here.
They’ll drop some points in their next few but I Fancy forest to get to the play offs.
Powell off early sue to injury, GK with a proper howler = defeat for Stoke
Nine behind Bournemouth now I believe. A truly awful day. Although strangely if we could catch one I’d fancy our chances more Bournemouth but I’m certainly don’t think we will. Either way with 31 games left to go it’s a bit early to wave goodbye to automatic but we are certainly now making it hard for ourselves. At this stage it’s plsyoffs at best
Luton were losing 1-0 and just scored 3 goals in 5 minutes. What a turnaround.I have a bunch of Mad Hatter cousins, they will be loving that. Swansea on a roll now.
I have a bunch of Mad Hatter cousins, they will be loving that. Swansea on a roll now.
Fulham 2-0 up now
Shaddup. lol
Bournemouth loses at home to Preston. Maybe they are due for a rough patch
Neil Warnock has parted company with Middlesbrough
Derby set to accept total deduction of 21 points and 3 more suspended - John Percy
That is them down surely?
Derby set to accept total deduction of 21 points and 3 more suspended - John Percyis that including the already docked points or in addition too?
is that including the already docked points or in addition too?
Derby are currently on a 12 pt deduction so another 9 to be added.ta, not as bad as I first thought. Derby could still probably survive that at current pace.
They will go from 6 pts currently to minus 3 if it happens.
ta, not as bad as I first thought. Derby could still probably survive that at current pace.
Derby set to accept total deduction of 21 points and 3 more suspended - John PercyAbout time that they got something approaching their just desserts. I'm not sure why they need to accept it though, it should be imposed on them.
They were there for the taking, it was clear he'd lost his fire as he aged and wanted the most games managed record. Shame we still couldn't beat them.He seemed pretty fired up on the touch line to me ! At one point his arms were going like a Windmill on speed !
Neil Warnock has parted company with Middlesbrough
Andy Carroll signs for Reading FC on short term deal.
He’ll probably score more than Hugill. :DWill be interesting to see how he performs at this level, if he can be ar53d to get on the pitch
John Percy just Tweeted
Confirmation that #dcfc have agreed a total deduction of 21 points for administration & financial breaches. Derby now on -3, 18 points adrift of safety. A big blow, but the closure needed to get a founder member of the Football League sold & rebuilding
Derby get a pen and score 3-2
Just wondering that now they are virtually down, the pressure is off the players and they can put in match winning performances
Just wondering that now they are virtually down, the pressure is off the players and they can put in match winning performances
I've seen many comments saying the quality of this division is poor compared to other years would this be down to the fact most of the teams have spent many years at this level those with parachute payments the likes of vile , Norwich, etc have got back into the premier.
With our current owner failing to spend to give us a good chance of promotion with the parachute payment we could well become another Forest just going through the motion year after year.
Before too much longer "Parachute Payments" will be a thing of the past
https://www.fairgameuk.org/
Good. Crippled the football league and rewards failure.
How can the championship ever be fair when three of the sides get resources given to them that some of the clubs could only dream of?
Good. Crippled the football league and rewards failure.
How can the championship ever be fair when three of the sides get resources given to them that some of the clubs could only dream of?
Agree with all the above but there are 7 more games till Jan window opens. JUst have to hope the gap isn't too big by then.I can see this being another very disappointing window for us as always. My prediction is no incomings and Sam Johnson to leave very late. The excuses will be the same as ever - we tried but too little happens in January and it just didn’t happen! Last season Big Sam forced them into action but even that was too late.
There is no excuse for them not to have deals lined up and ready to go on day 1 but we know that won't happen.
Interesting results. Jitters at the top, good night for QPR.
John Percy Tweeted
Slavisa Jokanovic set to leave his role as Sheffield United manager after talks this morning. Another Championship departure....
Strange one that, did really well with Fulham and from memory when we were on the manager merry go round his name was put forward by a few on here.
Sheff United haven’t got a pot to **** in and are urgent need of promotion.
They cannot afford to overhaul the squad as Jokanovic wants so it’s a case of he goes and hope someone else can get a declining bunch of average players firing again.
Many would have walked on hot coals to have him here.
Slavisa Jokanovic: We thought he'd agreed to join us then just when there was little time to consider anyone else, he turned round and asked for a huge hike in wages. He's the type of manager that needs a lot of money spending on players and on himself. Can't see him coming here really.
Looks like they’re going to give it to Paul Heckingbottom..
Fulham draws again. Maybe they and Bournemouth are starting to hit their rough patch. We are bowing a chance to make a run at them, maybe someone like QPR can rise up and challenge.Or Blackburn. Hello Tony, got some players with soft feet there? ;)
Many would have walked on hot coals to have him here.I would now ….
Or Blackburn. Hello Tony, got some players with soft feet there? ;)Do you mean, Tony, we'll take it on the chin and move on, Mowbray?
Gray scores 2 -1 QPR 89th minute.
And what a goal.
Fulham v B'mouth. Draw probably best from an Albion viewpoint.
Travers in the Bournemouth goal is class.
Makes no difference, I cannot see us bothering them this season.
Field and Austin in the QPR starting line upStokies have taken the lead 0-1.
Stokies have taken the lead 0-1.
The floodlighting at QPR is appalling
Field and Austin in the QPR starting line up
Sawyers also starting for Stoke
Crazy league....but after the despondency of some a few weeks back we are slap bang back in the race for the auto positions
I mentioned somewhere on here that I thought we have turned a corner and got through our blip and that Fulham and Bournemouth are beginning theirs, and it was so.
My forecast is that by end of this year we will be 2nd at worst.
It really is a crazy division at times.Watching the game this afternoon it was evident that there is a lack of any real quality in the Championship. Readings best effort nearly hit the corner flag when their striker was one on one from 5 yards with only Johnson to beat. Fulham are the best side in the division but nowhere near to being able to compete in the Premier League.
Bournmouth who raced to 37 points in record time after 15 unbeaten have now won just 1 in the last 7. On the other hand you’ve got forest who didn’t win in the first 8, have just smashed Swansea away and only lost once in the last 14 now.
Watching the game this afternoon it was evident that there is a lack of any real quality in the Championship. Readings best effort nearly hit the corner flag when their striker was one on one from 5 yards with only Johnson to beat. Fulham are the best side in the division but nowhere near to being able to compete in the Premier League.That's football. Just be better than the rest. We're third best at the moment in our league. For now... I'm happy with that.
That's football. Just be better than the rest. We're third best at the moment in our league. For now... I'm happy with that.Agreed - we are where we are on merit. Over the first half of the season we are third best. I agree with many that had we only have invested in a decent striker at this level we probably would be second. From what I’ve seen there is very little consistent quality in the Championship. I fear the gulf between the Championship and Premier League is becoming unassailable for all but the clubs owned by billionaires.
Do you mean, Tony, we'll take it on the chin and move on, Mowbray?That's him, the chap who delivered our only league title since 1920, an FA cup semi-final and a play-off final at Wembley where we were the better side. Yet many of our fans think that he's clueless....
That's him, the chap who delivered our only league title since 1920, an FA cup semi-final and a play-off final at Wembley where we were the better side. Yet many of our fans think that he's clueless....One of my favourite teams in recent years. Always played in a very positive and exciting way under TM.
I think some forget it is a marathon and not a sprint, with lots of twists and turns still to come
Hoping for a Sheffield win Monday
QPR are too close.
SU would like to win too, because 3 points and they are knocking on the door of the play offs.
They will be up for it.
Game is not being played due to QPR covid problems. They have not sought permission from the EFL though. Will be watching with interest after us being forced to play yesterday.Big disruption coming for certain.
If this post gets deleted, then I apologise in advance.
Boro leading Bournemouth!
You had to go and post it....... :-X .Don’t want those pans getting dirty week before Xmas !
Don’t want those pans getting dirty week before Xmas !
I don't think Blackburn can keep it going. If anything, I see Forest or even M'Boro joining the chasing pack.If Sheff U do win tonight, they will be on quite a roll too
I watched Bournemouth perform poorly at Middlesborough on Saturday, and Fulham similarly tonight. Unfortunately I can see Boro and Sheffield Utd providing just as much a challenge to us as the current top two.
Just goes to show that anything can happen in this league.
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Sounds like common sense
He would be worse than LaiThink about it.
Fulham beating Reading 3-0 but Andy Carroll has scored 2 great goals that weren't goals ;D
https://twitter.com/sammisam147/status/1481003750726717441?t=WLGuRGuQZDGoM2zdQppxMw&s=19
They both look offside which I assume was why?
Both absolutely fantastic strikes though! He’d had certainly been better on 1500 a week than hugill.
Fulham are the best team in a poor division. They will go up as Champions.
Boro signing highly rated 20 year old Arsenal striker Folarin Balogun on loan. Have to hope Wilder’s bad luck with strikers continues, as Balogun has an enviable premier league 2 record. He looks like a Premier league striker in waiting and with Boro breathing down our necks we could have done without them making this deal.I posted last week that we should be in for this kid, will be a big miss
Derby need 7m to finish the season off or get kicked out league and results cancelled according to The Sun.Looks like they may have a fire sale.
Can't see them getting a loan or new owner so best players to be sold off imagine.
Feel for the fans but not reckless management.
Looks like they may have a fire sale.
https://www.westbromnews.co.uk/2022/01/14/view-west-brom-should-swoop-with-derby-ready-to-accept-offer-for-louie-sibley/
If we need players for next season and Derby have players we want then we should absolutely get in there right now.Tom Lawrence?
How did we miss out on that Adabayo when he was at Walsall he’s all over the Bournemouth defence
How did we miss out on that Adabayo when he was at Walsall he’s all over the Bournemouth defence
Last minute Luton winner.Great result, well happy I would settle for a point today at QPR.
It’s a shame Cardiff couldn’t nick a point, but it’s the Luton result is certainly good for us.
Just noticed in the house of parliament that at 2:15 today there is an urgent question regard g the administration of Derby County FCSomething for Derby fans to boast about. There's not many clubs that get a mention in the Houses of Parliament!
John PercyWithout a doubt we need to improve our midfield if we let Sibley or some other young player pass us by we will regret it, at that price it just makes business sense.
@JPercyTelegraph
Transfer news: #MillwallFC have now made a fourth offer for #dcfc midfielder Louie Sibley, of over £450,000. All previous bids rejected by Derby's administrators Quantuma. Interesting dilemma - do Quantuma turn down assured finance or hold out?
If there is anyone we are interested in at Derby that can improve us then we need to make our move.
Without a doubt we need to improve our midfield if we let Sibley or some other young player pass us by we will regret it, at that price it just makes business sense.
Yep, at the worst you flip emThat’s ok if you’re purchasing a cheap property in Florida. We can’t even get a price on our youngsters, let alone dipping out on one of best players for years.
Is buying players, because we can get them cheaper than normally over-inflated prices, the right way to go?
Looks clear to me that Fulham are a cut above, everyone else fair game.
Well yeah, Boro were managed by Colin back then.
Wilder didn’t get the Albion job because of personal issues nothing to do with his football record
I was talking about fans and what they were saying in the summerDon’t think he was ever dismissed by fans, questioned as all candidates were no more no less
You know what I mean mate, Wilder was dismissed based on the last 6 months of his tenure at Sheff Utd. People dismissed him on that 6 months and discounted the years before.
He has done brilliantly at Boro since going there.
Silva was dismissed due to his time at Everton.
Both are now the yard stick for what we should have gone for on most social media platforms.
Don’t think he was ever dismissed by fans, questioned as all candidates were no more no less
Bournemouth lose to Hull at home
Preston have signed Archer from the Vile on loan . Been banging on about this lad now he may have a chance to put one over on us !
Horrendous tackle just in the Huddersfield vs Stoke game. How Koroma didn't get sent off for that i don't know.
Not even a yellow card.
"Rob Dorsett
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EXCL: #ssn can reveal true extent of #dcfc debts which are a staggering £60m+. Almost £30m to HMRC, £20m to MSD via loans secured on stadium, over £10m to football creditors, and several million to non-secured creditors. 1 source says he’s never seen debts so big in a champs club"
Jheez.
"Rob Dorsett
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EXCL: #ssn can reveal true extent of #dcfc debts which are a staggering £60m+. Almost £30m to HMRC, £20m to MSD via loans secured on stadium, over £10m to football creditors, and several million to non-secured creditors. 1 source says he’s never seen debts so big in a champs club"
Jheez.
Sometimes, we overlook how fortunate we are as a club
Sometimes, we overlook how fortunate we are as a club
Fulham Blackpool halted after 13 mins due to fan medical issues. Best wishes.Cripes!! The fans are dropping like flies. Why has fans health issues suddenly become so important that games have to be stopped? Why has this become a trend?
Cripes!! The fans are dropping like flies. Why has fans health issues suddenly become so important that games have to be stopped? Why has this become a trend?
Cripes!! The fans are dropping like flies. Why has fans health issues suddenly become so important that games have to be stopped? Why has this become a trend?
I remember reading from someone who said it’s due to a rule change this year that matches are being stopped for such things. Used to never happen and is now happening weekly. But people always did have medical issues at games, they just weren’t stopping play for them. Im not sure the reason tbh. Seems to cause unneeded panic and consternation amongst other fans and players.
Derby come from 2-0 down against blues to equalise in the 95th minute. Great goal.
Great fighting spirit from Derby.
You just knew this would happen :-X
Well, why am I not surprised was he feeling the pressure at the Albion like the rest of the team we need to remove the problem.
He's only gone and done it (Jordan Hugill).
It's not a trick it's Hugill scoring!!!!!
https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/12528930/hugill-scores-debut-goal-for-cardiff
You couldn’t make it up could you..... :o
Cardiff 2-0, see it out please lads.
Would be great result for us!
We can only hope every other team around us loses until Val is gone.That's about the size of it 12 teams on 50pts!
That's about the size of it 12 teams on 50pts!
I wonder if Hugill will be subbed after 60min that must be something else that irritates the players knowing the hook is coming no matter what.
Would be great result for us!
Are you joking? We can’t get a point - we can’t even score a goal - at the moment. I really wouldn’t be worrying or looking into other team’s results :-X
"Jordan Hugill
@JordanHugill
What a start! Absolutely delighted to get off to that start!! What a result and performance from everyone!! @CardiffCityFC
Not bad for someone who can ‘only play in the cold weather and on rubbish pitches’"
Any ideas if this is a Val comment or from before his time with us?
I quite like the image of the ball pinging off boots at odd angles due to croissants strapped onto the toe caps.
Shades of viz, "Valeries Lefrogs amazing croissants"
Dish it Hugill. Things are boring round here! ;DWe will soon find out if he is as bad as we think he is or Valball made him look awful, either way his and snodders remarks show they had no love for Val.
"After not playing for a long time... I don't think I could have been any lower towards the back end of the first six months (of the season).
"Things weren't working out for me and to get that goal was just more relief than anything.
"There are certain things that went on that are not for me to say. It is what it is. I just knew I had a lot of people to prove wrong this year and this second half of the season, I can't wait for it."
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/i-couldnt-been-any-lower-22931840
We will soon find out if he is as bad as we think he is or Valball made him look awful, either way his and snodders remarks show they had no love for Val.problem is even if people want to blame Valball, he had plenty of good chances to score. We led that horse to water several times, but he just wouldn’t drink!
Good for us that Forest lostUntil Val is gone I don't think it matters Forest and others will be above us soon enough.
Until Val is gone I don't think it matters Forest and others will be above us soon enough.
i dont think we loose anymore ground before we play the blades
Both Luton and Fulham play on the Tuesday; if Luton win by 4 they will go above us. If Fulham win they will also move further away on points.
Even Blades are likely to overtake us now with their games in hand. Jeez.That's the position Val left us in Bruce as got is work cut out all we can do is concentrate on ourselves and apply the old adage one game at a time.
That's the position Val left us in Bruce as got is work cut out all we can do is concentrate on ourselves and apply the old adage one game at a time.
Who would have thought we would close an 11pt gap on Wolves ;D
FTSo have we been, apparently. And other challengers. This League has just started bubbling. Boiling point doesn’t start until Easter time. Then the real egg race begins. 🐰
Swansea 1-0 Blackburn
Unlucky to lose by all accounts
Fulham and Luton winning.
Luton 7th now behind us on GD. Jeez
Mixed bag of results from our perspective at the minute.
Neither Bournemouth or QPR are winning but they aren’t really a concern of ours right now. Of those around us, both Boro and Forest are winning. Sheffield United drew but Luton are losing.
We need to find a way to win on Monday.
So...do we prefer a Blackpool pr Bournemouth win ??? just thought i'd point out that this brings Blackpool within a point of us...hapyy Saturday everybodyReally not worth worrying about at the minute until we look like we can string a few results together, bottom line we have to get above 4 teams minimum just to finish in 6th place.
Straight red for Samba of Forest. Stoke go 1 v 2 up via the penalty spot.
So...do we prefer a Blackpool pr Bournemouth win ??? just thought i'd point out that this brings Blackpool within a point of us...hapyy Saturday everybody
It's a Desmond...
Not sure whether to look up or down the tableBoth! we are delicately poised to jump up or down like a game of Snakes and Ladders the snake being the larger!
Interesting that Junior Hoilett only gets a yellow for a far worse challenge than Livermore (different ref I know) and Mike Dean also only dished out a yellow for a similar tackle in the Boro v Derby game.
Talking of Championship Refs I watched the Huddersfield v Sheffield United highlights last night. I know it's been mentioned further up the thread but Huddersfield must feel very hard done by.
Perfectly good goal disallowed, and if it's not a goal it's a definite penalty for Huddersfield if the Ref whistles early. They then had an absolutely stonewall penalty turned down later in the game.
Hugill sets up Cardiff’s second goal.
His turn around is remarkable. Genuinely awful up here but seemingly doing very well for Cardiff.
How many times have we seen players slot into place at one club and then it just not at others. Hugill seems to be that. Just didn't click here - seems to be working at Cardiff. Sods law.
How many times have we seen players slot into place at one club and then it just not at others. Hugill seems to be that. Just didn't click here - seems to be working at Cardiff. Sods law.
All down to good supply in the box, something we are severely lacking [or not if you believe that Xg nonsense].
Peterborough United can confirm that the co-owners have accepted the resignation of manager Darren Ferguson following a phone call made by Darren to Darragh MacAnthony on Sunday.
Peterborough United can confirm that the co-owners have accepted the resignation of manager Darren Ferguson following a phone call made by Darren to Darragh MacAnthony on Sunday.Opening for Val?
Results have to go our way tomorrow.
Results have to go our way tomorrow.Ones at the bottom :D
Huddersfield, Sheff U and QPR win. Bad news
Former Hull City boss Grant McCann, 41, has agreed a deal to become manager of Championship side Peterborough United.
We are 14th in the table as things stand :o
14th at the moment. Jesus wept.Nowhere near that on recent form. It’s a good job we made such a good start this season. Currently we are the worst side in the Championship bar none. We certainly didn’t expect to have to say that this season!
14th at the moment. Jesus wept.Probably as good as it gets we will need to improve quite a bit not to sink any lower.
It's the hope that gets you. If this, if that. How many times does it leave the fan deflated :-[
It's difficult to believe where we have fallen to.
I can't remember the last time we were this far down in this league, anyone know?
It's difficult to believe where we have fallen to.
I can't remember the last time we were this far down in this league, anyone know?
We will need results to go our way now to get playoffs
We will need results to go our way now to get playoffs
“ Stoke City lost £55m in year to end of March 2021 compared to £87m loss the previous season but appear to be within EFL FFP loss limit as no points deduction.â€
70 minutes gone and Barnsley are winning 1-0 against Fulham.
1-1.
If you're an idiot like me and are still looking at our play off chances then results could be going worse today. An equaliser for Swansea and a favour from Hugill for Cardiff would be nice!
If you're an idiot like me and are still looking at our play off chances then results could be going worse today. An equaliser for Swansea and a favour from Hugill for Cardiff would be nice!
If you're an idiot like me and are still looking at our play off chances then results could be going worse today. An equaliser for Swansea and a favour from Hugill for Cardiff would be nice!
How easy is it to back-date the sale transaction? I know you can carry over and carry back some expenses.
How easy is it to back-date the sale transaction? I know you can carry over and carry back some expenses.
Find it hard to believe that QPR score ! ;DPeterboro double over QPR, and knocked them out of F.A cup !
For anyone still daring to dream, 6 results have gone our way this weekend, 3 haven’t.
I'll always dare to dream, it's all pointless otherwise. Season starts tomorrow :DYup, win and we're 5 points off 6th with 5/7 games at home to come
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Have seen a few bits and pieces where he’s been getting stick off his own supporters on social media , seems strange how quickly they’ve turned
Have seen a few bits and pieces where he’s been getting stick off his own supporters on social media , seems strange how quickly they’ve turned
It's the way of the modern fan. You only have to look at our lot.
There is a silver lining at the end of this!
Still backing Forest to join Bournemouth and Fulham as promotion trio.
I watched Huddersfield vs Luton last might. Fairly turgid game but what stood out was the energy and team work. Almost every forward got back and tackled. I thought that Luton made a game of it and admire them for having one of the lowest budgets in the league and a ownership with a fan element and fan participation.
Huddersfield won but are very dour. Their keeper has been booked 5 times this season for time wasting.
Luton have suffered a lot of injuries and had two more last night. This forced them to bring on Snodgrass who was woeful. His main contribution was to ball watch and let his man slip behind him and score. He also skied a very decent chance into row X.
One aged player's pension fund that we don't have to contribute to. See, I told you there would be a silver lining.
Derby won in the end
Rooney's done a good job there in spite of the squad
Rooney's done a good job there in spite of the squad
That Derby squad contains some very decent players.
I can't name many but it's all opinion.
Derby are relegated after outstanding efforts throughout the seasonWe need to go for Lawrence
If only we had put efforts in like theirs
Derby are relegated after outstanding efforts throughout the season.
If only we had put efforts in like theirs
I know some people on here didn't think Fulham would walk it either which is really strange. If I recall Silva was too bad a manager to get them up.
I was one of those. I was judging Silva on his premier league record (which isn't great) and I didn't expect Fulham to be as strong as they are.
I fully expect them to be relegated next season though.
I was one of those. I was judging Silva on his premier league record (which isn't great) and I didn't expect Fulham to be as strong as they are.
I fully expect them to be relegated next season though.
Rooney comes out of the Derby debacle with a huge amount of credit. I was somewhat sceptical about coach Rooney but his efforts here working with a threadbare squad in difficult circumstances is a far better grounding than a relatively well fund club were everything is in place for success.But he was in a no lose situation whatever the outcome. The experience will benefit him though.
Barnsley relegated after losing 2-1 to Huddersfield.
Feel sorry for their fans
Nobody won by us taking Ismael from them
Us, them or him
I'd imagine the vast majority of us have fully grasped the size of the advantage that's been thrown away. But it wasn't thrown away by us.
People who apparently know what they're doing have managed that all by themselves. Board level down, players up or both. Even post Val our current position was so avoidable.
Another contender for the season DVD title of 'So Near and Yet So Far' would be 'So Avoidable'. Or even 'Painfully Tragic'. Whatever they decide on it should come with age appropriate guidance.
English Championship Season Metrics 2021-22We've been saying all season though that a high proportion of our chances have been snap chances and fallen to the likes of Furlong, Ajayi, Bartley, Livermore when they are in the box for corners or long throws. It's not really been a case of strikers missing shed loads of good chances - though there have been some of course. Even Dike missed a couple in the 60 minutes he played and Carrol has missed a couple of headers you'd expect him to bury.
If only we had had a consistent goal scorer, or two
https://dataviz.theanalyst.com/season-reviews/2021/?competition_id=10&season_id=2021
We are now 14th....in bruce we trust right????
QPR FC tweetedI'm really torn on him as a manager. He did really well at Brentford - but it seems all of their managers since him have done well. Since then, he went to Rangers (where he was fairly ordinary) and then Forest where he was a bit of a flop. In some ways, he's done fairly well at QPR without really doing a whole lot. Certainly not a bad Championship manager, but not the best either.
Manager 𝗠𝗮𝗿𝗸 𝗪𝗮𝗿𝗯𝘂𝗿𝘁𝗼𝗻 will be leaving at the end of the season.
Thank you for everything gaffer 💙🤍
Sheffield united wins today. Effectively ending Millwall’s playoff chances and making Blackburn a long shot.
Do we have a preference who goes up through the playoffs? What would be best for us?
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Manager 𝗠𝗮𝗿𝗸 𝗪𝗮𝗿𝗯𝘂𝗿𝘁𝗼𝗻 will be leaving at the end of the season.
Thank you for everything gaffer 💙🤍
6 now...
Wow Luton giving life to Boro and millwall
Make that 7-0 and a new record set by Mitrovich.
The 2nd tier record is 59
True, this is since the PL formation.
A Sky stat then haha
Marco Silva storming the league scoring goals for fun…if only Jacko still posted on here ;D
I didnt realise it was Forest Bournemouth tonight, fascinating tie.
Forest must win, Bournmouth must not lose. I fancy Forest to do it.
2nd half has been worse
Ref's having a shocker.No surprise there then, the quality this season has been abysmal at most levels!
No surprise there then, the quality this season has been abysmal at most levels!It’s Attwell and he’s been reffing Prem games !
It’s Attwell and he’s been reffing Prem games !He reffed the Merseyside derby with all those shenanigans last week, he was pants then as well
99 times put of 100, that free kick is messed up and it doesn't even trouble the keeper....but that one time it works.......
It’s Attwell and he’s been reffing Prem games !
Is it just me that when I see Bournemouth's Billing all I see is an alpaca?
How he ever graduated to the EPL is beyond me but I guess he reveals the poor standard of refereeing in this country.Wait ‘til next season I think it’s 3 prem refs retiring Moss, Dean and possibly Atkinson who in the hell is going to replace them !
Is it just me that when I see Bournemouth's Billing all I see is an alpaca?
I just don’t want Sheff U to go up. From our perspective that may be better but I would rather see a newish team in the Prem.
Luton are in the play offsalong with the other 66 clubs they've finished above. ::)
I have had to read that to myself a few times for it to sink in.
We are an absolute disgrace of a club.
along with the other 66 clubs they've finished above. ::)
They've done well, let them have their moment and see if they can go even further beyond.
Blues likely to be taken over at some point this month by a British based owner. Little detail about what their plans are and the early promises are modest (fixing the stadium, steadying the ship etc) but it increases the likelihood we could go back to being the 4th ranked team of the West Midlands in the coming seasons.Because of the levels of expectation he probably gets more patience for his “style†of football at Luton….they couldn’t care less how they get to the playoffs …..however us/stoke/Fulham/Bournemouth would all be going mad at watching that every week?
Onto the playoffs, if Luton go up that will mean 7 of the teams in the Premier league will be from the Greater London area and 11 teams in the league will come from the "South" of England (the Midlands would have 3 and the North 6).
Nathan Jones does deserve credit as well. I used to follow a twitter account called Stoke Analytics who throughout Jones reignwas banging the drum that their "Expected Points" (xP) under Jones should see them in the top 3 and that ifbthey stuck with him it would start to show in their actual points total. It didn't and he got sacked, but Luton are big on their stats and so it isn't a surprise they went back to him.
Because of the levels of expectation he probably gets more patience for his “style†of football at Luton….they couldn’t care less how they get to the playoffs …..however us/stoke/Fulham/Bournemouth would all be going mad at watching that every week?we can guess the others would, we know we would have torn him apart in a matter of weeks.
We had the fifth highest average attendance in the Championship the past season with a figure of 21,788.I would guess that makes us about 22nd highest in the country, if Brentford, Watford and Burnley get lower numbers.
1. Sheffield United, 27,611
2. Nottingham Forest, 27,137
3. Derby County, 23,010
4. Middlesbrough, 21,825
10.Fulham, 17,774
24. AFC Bournemouth, 9,753
Because of the levels of expectation he probably gets more patience for his “style†of football at Luton….they couldn’t care less how they get to the playoffs …..however us/stoke/Fulham/Bournemouth would all be going mad at watching that every week?I can confirm that my cousins from Luton don't give a shoeshine how they got in the playoffs, they are loving it after the last decade, and why wouldn't they?
I can confirm that my cousins from Luton don't give a shoeshine how they got in the playoffs, they are loving it after the last decade, and why wouldn't they?Exactly, best of British to them in the play offs too.
We had the fifth highest average attendance in the Championship the past season with a figure of 21,788.
1. Sheffield United, 27,611
2. Nottingham Forest, 27,137
3. Derby County, 23,010
4. Middlesbrough, 21,825
10.Fulham, 17,774
24. AFC Bournemouth, 9,753
Rob Edwards haas got the Watford job FGR not happy bunnies about the way it’s been done !
That's not how it came across from Dale Vince the Forest Green chairman. He clearly said that negotiations had gone on between Watford and Edwards behind the backs of Forest Green. Vince rang Edwards when he became aware of rumours of Edwards leaving. Would seem a strange contract clause if Edwards was allowed to do that as long as he then writes a letter saying 'I'm off by the way'.
Not beyond the realms of reality. FGR get 6 months comensation and he gets the ability to walk away if a better offer comes in.
We all know negotiations are held behind closed doors all the time in footy, doesn't make it right of course but it's the truth.
I dont understand the chairman getting upset, when the manager exercises the contract both signed ! Needs to give himself a talking to for being an idiot methinks.
Justin Fashanu came out about thirty years ago. Shouldn't be an issue. The only players I care about are Albion ones and I'm not remotely interested in their private lives just what they do on the pitch.
Wonder who it is though. Shall we play guesses?
Or should I just act my age? ;D
and we believe giving them a target is a good idea? I'm in the dont care group, this will be an exercise in virtue signaling with little to no benefit to the sport.
Whic is how it should be but there are still some right ignorant swine in society. A minority though thankfully.
and we believe giving them a target is a good idea? I'm in the dont care group, this will be an exercise in virtue signaling with little to no benefit to the sport.
No one is saying make him a target. It's his right to be who he wants to be and if he wants to make it known publicly then that is fair enough,likewise if he doesn't.
To be fair he's making himself a target by announcing it. I'm not really sure why he feels the need. His job is to play football, if he's gay, he's gay why draw unnecessary attention to it?
There will always be people that have prejudices or think it's funny to target someone. Where you have 7.5 billion people you're always going to have idiots no matter what you do.
Totally agree you won't get rid of the idiots but it's his right to do so. It's known that many gay people in the past who have played football had to remain hidden away in silence. It's not right.
I don't think anyone is saying that the crowds at his next game are all going to have to come wearing LGBT clothes/flags etc
There's a difference between hiding away and (for want of a better phrase) announcing it.Maybe by announcing it it's a case of it's out there in the public domain so there's no need for the rumour and gossip mill to gather pace which it would if there was no announcement but he was leading the openly gay life he probably wants to lead. I think he's more likely to get support from opposing players and fans if it is out in the open rather than spread via gossip spread.
By announcing it you are drawing everyone's attention to it and by doing that you're inviting a reaction.
My advise to the young man would just simply be to be himself. If people realise he's gay, so what? Most people wouldn't bat an eyelid anyway.
It is absolutely the guys right to publicise his private life if he wants to no question about that. I just don't really understand why.
For me we need to get to a place where it’s irrelevant. The only thing that should matter is whether he can play football.
For me we need to get to a place where it’s irrelevant. The only thing that should matter is whether he can play football.
Everybody says it should make no difference but we all absolutely know that he will get abuse because of his sexuality.Probably, but from the football side it should be treated the same as racial abuse. Lifetime bans for supporters who instigate the abuse whether social media (if they can be tracked) or inside stadiums.
Everybody says it should make no difference but we all absolutely know that he will get abuse because of his sexuality.
Shame I dislike both teams but the tempo is unforgiving.
Forest 1 step from the Premier League and a certain section of snobbish nostalgia fans may be about to get their wish for a “proper†club to get back to the top flight.I suspect life will be difficult anyway ;D
Sheff Ute’s failure means there will be 4 sides other sides in the division with parachute payments which could make life difficult.
Forest 1 step from the Premier League and a certain section of snobbish nostalgia fans may be about to get their wish for a “proper†club to get back to the top flight.
Sheff Ute’s failure means there will be 4 sides other sides in the division with parachute payments which could make life difficult.
Just wait until Villa meet Forest in a EPL fixture! It will be a jizz fest.
Not sure what's gone on with the English game post pandemic. The scenes at Wembley last summer seem to have been a precursor to a depressing re-emergence of hooliganism.This season I went cov v Blackburn, it was mayhem outside, add to that the mess that was the pitch invasion at vale tonight.
Derby-Coventry last year, Milwall fans at the Hawthorns, increased complaints about fans at away games this season and then last night the vile scenes at the end kf the Forest vs Sheff Utd game (for those who don't know, a fan assaulted Billy Sharp with a running headbut while Oli McBurnie appeared to stamp on a fan on film).
The FA and the EFL /Prem need to get a grip on it before it spirals.
invade the pitch and you dont get to the final, you forfeit itHow do you define "invasion" though? Would you ban a club from the final because one idiot runs on the pitch at the end?
Burnley, Watford and Norwich join us then for next season.
Quite happy with that.
Hopefully Burnley are in as much turmoil as it's reported and they implode.
Probably the best result we could have hoped for. Norwich always seem to go straight back up and Watford won't be far away. Burnley you just don't know... I don't expect Huddersfield or Luton to make top 6 again so this is a massive chance for us to get in the mix if we get our recruitment right.
Norwich and Watford don't particularly impress me overall. Half of Burnleys best players are off on frees. If we have a 5 out of 10 transfer window we will be in with a good shout.
When was the last time we had a 5/10 transfer window though?
Oh I agree about Norwich and Watford, I just think they will up there as they always are in this division.
Hmm 5 out of 10? Summer of 2019 under Bilic? Almost entirely due to Pereira.
Probably the best result we could have hoped for. Norwich always seem to go straight back up and Watford won't be far away. Burnley you just don't know... I don't expect Huddersfield or Luton to make top 6 again so this is a massive chance for us to get in the mix if we get our recruitment right.
With regard to the likely impact of the relegated teams on next season's Championship
Norwich look reasonably well equipped to bounce back. I don't think there is going to be much dislocation there it is business as usual. No doubt they will sell a few on but they will have a strong squad and I will make them the favourites.
Watford have appointed Rob Edwards. He has rave reviews from Forest Green has a distinct high pressing style which will be interesting to see how well that does when he encounters the low blocks when opposition managers decide that Watford are one of the bigger teams in the Championship and a point is not a bad result. It's Watford God only knows what the squad will look like and how many managers they will get through in the season. However there will be quality there and the wheels haven't dropped off yet.
Burnley, there are issues. They don't have a manager a lot of players out of contract and a leveraged buyout that is about to blow up their face. It is very easy to dismiss them. However they are starting with a clean slate. The financial issues will probably be covered off by players sales and I think they won't be quite the basket cases many assume. They will need to be canny in the market and I would hope we can pick up our free agent targets before they have sorted themselves out because they will be in there and they will still have money.
In short Norwich are going to be competitive the other two there will be question marks over but reports of their imminent demise are premature.
I wouldn’t be completely sure on Norwich the locals are restless they really gave up this season with a wimper and there’s grumbles about the job Smith is doing. The sporting director Webber is bizarrely been given next season off to climb Mount Everest & there has been talk of him finishing his contract with the club. Add to that they have 4-5 on loan who are going back so they need to get a few through the door & won’t be in the best financial position as by Norwich’s standards they spent a fair whack last summer. I still expect them to be strong but I could see them taking a while to get going.
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Woulnt have liverpool arsenal man utd near that top 20. I always enjoyed the matches at kennilworth road. Ewood park and brammel lane all under valued in the last. All about old grounds that have continued to evolve not the soulless bowls.The most interesting stadiums are where you can see the historical evolution with each stand looking different. The worst are where each side looks the same, all built same time. Makes the Hawthorns one of the best in my opinion.
Glad to see leicester and southampton low boring stadiums
Well, at least we know who’ll be dead last next season.
Well, at least we know who’ll be dead last next season.It won't be Forest I don't think/hope they will be fine They already have scalped some of the Premier League Sides Leicester, so on they nearly beat Liverpool, Fulham will probably go down maybe Everton if Frank can't get a good start, Southampton might be doomed and maybe Bournemouth.
Well done Forest but I am still gutted that we have missed a golden opportunity given it has been the worst championship in living memory
Well done Forest but I am still gutted that we have missed a golden opportunity given it has been the worst championship in living memoryThere's an inevitable impact caused not just by covid finances but even more-so by the difficulty for championship sides in making foreign signings due to new restrictions. The talent pool available to clubs has shrunk. There will be a knock on effect as championship sides fish in the lower levels of the EFL pyramid.
Don't have much love for Huddersfield but that Var episode stinks , the PL know who they want in if possible .
Crooked.
Couldn't really get my head around those decisions. Regardless of how he falls the Huddersfield player clearly had his leg hooked for the first one.Stinks Dan , corrupt .
While the ref's unsighted for the second claim I fail to see how VAR doesn't overturn both with penalties awarded. Were that Albion I'd have been furious.
Still, it would have saved me the angst of seeing one sail over the bar and the other tapped lamely to the keeper's side so he can flop onto the ball ;D .
Don't have much love for Huddersfield but that Var episode stinks , the PL know who they want in if possible .
Crooked.
On the subject of pens, having seen Brice Sambas shennanigans (and saves) in the play offs, I have to say that I find him very annoying (polite version)
That said I'd happily have him between our sticks
John Percy Tweeted
#QPR are close to appointing Michael Beale as manager. Beale is very keen to become a No 1 and #avfc have known there was always a chance of this happening since appointing Steven Gerrard.
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#QPR are close to appointing Michael Beale as manager. Beale is very keen to become a No 1 and #avfc have known there was always a chance of this happening since appointing Steven Gerrard.
Whatever happens with Beale and QPR (should he be appointed) I'm sadly underwhelmed to relay the Vile will more than likely find a way of landing jam side up.
Critchley leaving Blackpool is a weirs one.Probably being paid very poorly at Blackpool and gone for the dosh, simples
He leaves the role of Liverpool U23 manager - one of the best academy coaching gigs you can get - to take a risk at a mid table league 1 club in Blackpool who were up to that point a bit of a car crash club. He must clearly believe in his own ability to take that gamble and then backs it up with promotion and survival in his full 2 seasons at the club, doing so in style. Why then would you decide to go and be an assistant manager at a mid table prem side? I don't buy the "Villa are massive, working with Gerrard is massive" because Beale has left Gerrard's side to take over a club only 5 places higher than Blackpool in the table.
It makes me thing either that things at Blackpool are about to get difficult, or that Critchley has decided the last 2 seasons have been a bit much despite the success and that for now he would prefer a less intense role.
Critchley leaving Blackpool is a weird one.
He leaves the role of Liverpool U23 manager - one of the best academy coaching gigs you can get - to take a risk at a mid table league 1 club in Blackpool who were up to that point a bit of a car crash club. He must clearly believe in his own ability to take that gamble and then backs it up with promotion and survival in his full 2 seasons at the club, doing so in style. Why then would you decide to go and be an assistant manager at a mid table prem side? I don't buy the "Villa are massive, working with Gerrard is massive" because Beale has left Gerrard's side to take over a club only 5 places higher than Blackpool in the table.
It makes me think either that things at Blackpool are about to get difficult, or that Critchley has decided the last 2 seasons have been a bit much despite the success and that for now he would prefer a less intense role.
Good signing for Norwich that is, I’m suprised we weren’t in for Hayden given the Bruce connection & we’ve been interested in him before.Even if we had been in for him, Norwich are a better option than us as things stand.
Good signing for Norwich that is, I’m suprised we weren’t in for Hayden given the Bruce connection & we’ve been interested in him before.
Martyn Ziegler tweeted
NEW: The EFL clubs have agreed to:
- five subs next season
- making a 'hate crime' conviction a disqualifying condition for owning a club
- independent panels to oversee and judge on financial fair play breaches (the Premier League take note)
Wonder what is classed as a hate crime?
Wonder what is classed as a hate crime? That won't age well as what someone calls hate someone else finds reasonable.
Five subs! >:( I hate multiple substitutions.The stoppages break up the flow of the game too much, which of course some managers do on purpose. Overall, its bad for entertainment value.
The stoppages break up the flow of the game too much, which of course some managers do on purpose. Overall, its bad for entertainment value.
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Exclusive: Mike Ashley ready to rescue crisis club Derby County #DCFC
Former Newcastle owner determined to act after being contacted by administrators in wake of failed Kirchner deal - but wants exclusivity
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As per the report from @Neil_Moxley and @briandick, Laurence Bassini has exchanged contracts on a takeover at Birmingham City and is confident of completing a deal. EFL approval needed which is the next step. #bcfc
Out of the frying pan into the fire?
John Percy Tweeted
As per the report from @Neil_Moxley and @briandick, Laurence Bassini has exchanged contracts on a takeover at Birmingham City and is confident of completing a deal. EFL approval needed which is the next step. #bcfc
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Breaking: Chris Kirchner has withdrawn his bid to buy Derby tonight and is now OUT. CK has notified the EFL that he is regretfully pulling out. Crucial time wasted, and now it’s over to the other interested parties to get a deal done.. #dcfc
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As per the report from @Neil_Moxley and @briandick, Laurence Bassini has exchanged contracts on a takeover at Birmingham City and is confident of completing a deal. EFL approval needed which is the next step. #bcfc
Is he shonky??
Very. If you've got some spare time look up what Charlton and Watford's supporters think of him. Very shady character by many accounts. Oddly enough it was being reported a month or so ago that David Sullivan was willing to put money up to support Bassini in a bid to buy Blues.
âœï¸ We are delighted to announce the appointment of Jon Dahl Tomasson as our new Head Coach.Won the league with Malmo for the last two seasons so not too shabby, I remember when he used to play for Newcastle, he was half decent!
Blackburn new boss. Any good?
Won the league with Malmo for the last two seasons so not too shabby, I remember when he used to play for Newcastle, he was half decent!winning with Malmo is like winning with Bayern Munich, it’s an expectation rather than any kind of achievement. I know I’m saying that as they currently sit in 5th 10/11 games into the season.
The ex-Denmark, Newcastle and AC Milan forward succeeds Tony Mowbray, who left the Championship club after five years when his contract expired in May.
Tomasson, 45, joins Rovers having won two consecutive league titles with Swedish club Malmo FF.
winning with Malmo is like winning with Bayern Munich, it’s an expectation rather than any kind of achievement. I know I’m saying that as they currently sit in 5th 10/11 games into the season.
I’d be more interested in how he plays over what he’s won.
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As per the report from @Neil_Moxley and @briandick, Laurence Bassini has exchanged contracts on a takeover at Birmingham City and is confident of completing a deal. EFL approval needed which is the next step. #bcfc
Michael Appleton appointed Blackpool manager
Michael Appleton appointed Blackpool manager
I wonder which clubs will hit a financial brick wall this year as the recession kicks in. Swansea in a bit of a pickle apparently.I may have missed something but I'm not really aware of any impending doom rumours around Swansea. They are always cost cutting but so are most.
No team to fear in this league currently. Will hold final judgement till transfer windows closed. Depends how the relegated 3 use their money for meNo team to fear but I think we need the attitude that there are no easy games also - we were often 2nd best to a number of sides that you'd expect us to better than last season.
No team to fear but I think we need the attitude that there are no easy games also - we were often 2nd best to a number of sides that you'd expect us to better than last season.
No team to fear but I think we need the attitude that there are no easy games also - we were often 2nd best to a number of sides that you'd expect us to better than last season.
You are saying it yourself, ;D (bold above).Yes I should have thought that sentence out a bit better ! It should be stating the obvious but you only get easy games if you play well yourselves.
In fact I reckon 90% of us (fans) and likely a lot of the players think this, its surprising as a club with a good history of giving "bigger" clubs a bloody snotbox we think like this.
New deal’ to give Championship clubs cash on merit
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/aa7a0afa-0d07-11ed-93cf-b011fa7fe86b?shareToken=70683049c092b2b7432c8588f5960873
And all being dictated by the 20 Premier League clubs protecting their own financial interests.
Times's Predictions:
Automatic Promotion: Burnley and Norwich - mainly for the parachute money but I think journo is a bit overenthusiastic about the Kompany effect
Play-offs: Sheffield United, Middlesbrough, West Brom and Watford
Relegation: Rotherham, Wigan, Birmingham
A bit brave there.
Steve Bruce and his son are in attendance at the game tonightJordan and vydra not involved 😂
Sawyers puts Cardiff ahead vs NorwichA great goal too from 25 yards. Kipre involved in the build up!
A great goal too from 25 yards. Kipre involved in the build up!
The last time Sawyers scored from there was for Leeds!
Even our unwanted are smashing it in this league.
Sawyers puts Cardiff ahead vs NorwichDon't be silly, he never scores
So here’s the unpredictable Championship again.It’s the first game. Only the media make a big deal of it. Easter time. Make a note. That’s the time to be disappointed with a clubs performance.
Would have expected better from Norwich, Stoke, and Luton today for starters.
So here’s the unpredictable Championship again.
Would have expected better from Norwich, Stoke, and Luton today for starters.
Sarr, Pedro and Dennis as the front three for Watford tonight :-X
That is just scary at this level
That was my first thought when i saw the team, surely one or two of them are gone by the end of the month.
Huddersfield lost to Blues last night and were reportedly terrible. Could be a long season for them.
Their head coach and his staff left in the wake of several good players also departing. They won’t be as competitive this season imv.
Great goal from Willock today for QPR
https://twitter.com/i/status/1555923020539203585
Is that the Willock who was deemed not good enough for us and we hardly used?
Is that the Willock who was deemed not good enough for us and we hardly used?Wasn’t Ferguson’s very similar on his debut? Get them early in the season when they’re still in their friendly mode?
Coventry vs Rotherham tomorrow has been postponed because Coventry’s pitch is unplayable.
There has to be a pretty big fine for that and a suspended point deduction. Completely unfair on Rotherham who will now have to find somewhere else to squeeze this game in what’s a very congested fixture list.
Not sure Coventry are at fault for it, it was due to a rugby game as part of the Commonwealth games last week and its the owners who need to be blamed.For renting out a football stadium, to play silly egg ball, in Coventry….not Birmingham.
9 Championship teams played league 1 or 2 opposition in the league cup tonight.
All 9 Championship teams lost.
Talk about a lack of interest in the league cup ;D
Mowatt getting a decent amount of appreciation from Boro fans for his performance today on spcial media.
Just noticed they have a safe standing section at QPR! Is that coming to the EFL or are they lucky triallists?
Think all clubs are allowed it from now on?
Think all clubs are allowed it from now on?
I can only find info on a 5 club trial that started in Jan 2022. Man Utd, Man City, Cardiff, Spurs and Chelsea.
https://sgsa.org.uk/first-licensed-standing-grounds-announced/
In the 'buy tickets' section of the QPR site there is no mention of a safe/licensed standing area.
https://www.qpr.co.uk/visit/buying-tickets/
Just noticed they have a safe standing section at QPR! Is that coming to the EFL or are they lucky triallists?
Apparently QPR charged away supporters £36 for the 'privilege' of attending the game at their rabbit hutch of a stadium last night. Should be safe to stand in the away end given the amount of spaces there'll probably be. I for one have no plans to attend.
I can only find info on a 5 club trial that started in Jan 2022. Man Utd, Man City, Cardiff, Spurs and Chelsea.
https://sgsa.org.uk/first-licensed-standing-grounds-announced/
In the 'buy tickets' section of the QPR site there is no mention of a safe/licensed standing area.
https://www.qpr.co.uk/visit/buying-tickets/
36 to watch EFL???? What a joke
Apparently so. Decent mileage, travel times and costs for a Blackpool/Shepherd's Bush return journey too. Being a week night just adds another layer to the all round embuggerance factor. £36 on top is extracting the urine.
Can see Stoke pulling the trigger on O’Neil soon and going for Dyche. From what I am watching tonight, with there being no difference from last season, it’s the move I’d like to see us make.They have fond memories of kick and rush up at Stoke.
Does anyone please know if radio wm have completely stopped football on FM, as our last 2 games haven't been on and they have had non football programmes on instead?
Does anyone please know if radio wm have completely stopped football on FM, as our last 2 games haven't been on and they have had non football programmes on instead?
Absolute disgrace.A lot of people can't pick up DAB.
Been listening to it on fm since I can remember.
Loved listening to phone ins after the game.
To be fair, WM provided FM coverage pre and post match today, albeit with a stand in for Daz Hale. Made for good listening especially post match.
Here we go as the decent free managers start to get snapped up.
Fair play to Stoke another club with upper management far superior to ours.
Even a “decent†manager would struggle to get a tune out our lot gaz
Stoke seemingly pursuing Alex Neil :-X
Strange one, that
Cardiff have lost their appeal and been told they must pay for Sala apparently.If his contract was signed and valid surely that means he was insured (by Cardiff) and the insurers then pay it, no?
If his contract was signed and valid surely that means he was insured (by Cardiff) and the insurers then pay it, no?
If his contract was signed and valid surely that means he was insured (by Cardiff) and the insurers then pay it, no?
I would imagine he was not insured until he was in Cardiff which is why they are appealing. I would have thought that the carrier would be liable, but we know that is highly unlikely given the poor condition their plane was in and the chap flying it shouldn’t have been.
A very tragic case sadly
Tony Mowbray to be next Sunderland manager
Hat trick from Estupian
7 in 7. He looked good against us. Unimaginative scouting by us. He was on a free
7 in 7. He looked good against us. Unimaginative scouting by us. He was on a free
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Hannibal Mejbri, prepared to leave Man United on loan now approved by Erik ten Hag. He’s going to sign a new contract with Man Utd before loan move. 🚨🔴 #MUFC
Hannibal will join Birmingham City until June 2023 - first call, @RichFay
Anyone seen this lad? If we can't guarantee regular game time he can't be that good surely to not get ahead of Moloumby or JL?
Seen him play a few times at youth level online, both in highlights and full games. He's technically decent with energy and should have a good career. That said he hasn't kicked on from his earlier promise hence the desire for more game time.
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Hannibal Mejbri, prepared to leave Man United on loan now approved by Erik ten Hag. He’s going to sign a new contract with Man Utd before loan move. 🚨🔴 #MUFC
Hannibal will join Birmingham City until June 2023 - first call, @RichFay
Anyone seen this lad? If we can't guarantee regular game time he can't be that good surely to not get ahead of Moloumby or JL?
If you want to frame every transfer to another Championship club as "better than....." fine but in this case you are barking up the wrong tree most definitely an attacking midfielder a replacement for Swift if anybody in the current line up.
If you want to get agitated about Man U youngsters going out Zidane Iqbal or James Garner (more likely to go to a PL team) who are deeper lying and therefore more likely to be played by Bruce might trigger the green eyed monster :)
Big disappointment for me. Hannibal Mejbri has joined the Blues from Man Utd on a season long loan. He is an exceptional talent and was linked with us. My hopes for talented loan signings are fading fast.
Stoke over Sunderland is a really weird move. Must not like the commute up there maybe.
All the promotion favorites winning. Not good for us
Mowbray appointed at Sunderland. Official.
I don't imagine he will be at the legends game now for Brunt and Mozza
7 games for Dwight at Stoke still waiting to score
Missed an open goal tonight too
7 games for Dwight at Stoke still waiting to score
Missed an open goal tonight too
Delap not impressive at all.What do Stoke play like do they make many chances?
What do Stoke play like do they make many chances?
He should have joined us.
Delap not impressive at all.
Missed a chunk of last season through injury which prevented him going out on loan. His development has been hampered as a result. Needs games to get his timing back. His loan may unfortunately work out for both him and Stoke over the course of the season.
Callum Robinson with 2 assists for Cardiff who are 3 up at Boro at half time
Sheff Utd will take some beating this year. 4 out of the 5 sides with parachute payments doing well so far this season, following a trend from the last 2 seasons post covid.
Yes I think you’re right - there will be ups and downs in the Championship as there always are, but I think Norwich will win the league and Sheff Utd will probably be second.
I doubt you need to look much further for the likely top two. Burnley, maybe…
Callum Robinson with 2 assists for Cardiff who are 3 up at Boro at half time
Has it in his locker, Preston fans thought he was great. I think he is the sort who does well when he feels loved, a bit of a confidence player.
Kipre had another outstanding game for Cardiff at Burnley tonight. He has earned rave reviews nearly every time he plays. Were we a bit hasty in letting him go out on loan?
Kipre had another outstanding game for Cardiff at Burnley tonight. He has earned rave reviews nearly every time he plays. Were we a bit hasty in letting him go out on loan?
I still don't rate him as a top-end Championship player. Mind you, next season our squad will probably be even worse so maybe he'll be a good fit then. His style is quite unorthodox and old-school. Bad positioning but good at tackles. Makes some good interceptions but silly mistakes etc. Overall, not the worst defender in the championship but it will be best to see at the end of the season.Shouldn't forget what he can add to the team with good distribution from the back. Head and shoulders above the rest of our CBs in terms of vision and passing...which is one reason Cardiff took him as they are playing more football this season.
Kipre had another outstanding game for Cardiff at Burnley tonight. He has earned rave reviews nearly every time he plays. Were we a bit hasty in letting him go out on loan?
5 ex Baggies in the QPR side toinght, Johansen, Field, Willock deemed not good enough, Roberts left because he wanted too much money and has done well since he moved on and Irogebunam who fancied the pound signs at the villa where he's already made more first team appearances that he ever would here.
Anyone seen Sunderlands third goal last night? Classic Mowbray, and to think he's got a league 1 Sunderland team to score that goal after ahout 3 weeks of training and Bruce can't get us to score a single goal after 8 months.
Huddersfield have more wins than us. Everyone apart from Cov have more wins than us
JESUS WEPT
And they've only played 7 games.
Wilder no better than Bruce ;DYet many on here (not including my persona) were calling for Wilder to be appointed.
Steve Morrison fired as Cardiff manager after a bad start with only 3 wins in 10 games.
Sean Dyche on links to AFC Bournemouth jobI fear that Bournemouth could go the same way as us with such an appointment. For me Dyche is another old school approach manager who has had his day.
https://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/sport/21642974.sean-dyche-links-afc-bournemouth-job/
I fear that Bournemouth could go the same way as us with such an appointment. For me Dyche is another old school approach manager who has had his day.Totally agree. Another Pulis.
Totally agree. Another Pulis.Not quite Pulis, but his Burnley sides were very much long high punts forward.
Watford have sacked Rob Edwards and will appoint Slaven Bilic.
So much for them being fed up on their managerial go round!
I was just relieved that I beat you to posting the news :-*
Middlesbrough's English boss Chris Wilder, 55, is a leading candidate for the vacant job at Championship rivals Bournemouth having previously led Sheffield United to promotion to the Premier League.
Former Championship rivals surely. Falling upwards.
Gayle clearly making a difference there. Bilic clearly useless manager.
Gayle also looks nothing like he used to as a player. Glad we missed out on him in hindsight.
True!. I was one of the many looking for the club to bring in Liam Delap. Does not look as it's going good for him.
Gayle clearly making a difference there. Bilic clearly useless manager.
Gayle clearly making a difference there. Bilic clearly useless manager.
Just placed a bet on Slaven to win the league @ 10/1
Norwich drew with Reading. Chance for us to gain some ground on them with a victory tomorrow
Thanks f0r the laugh SC. No disrespect but I think we need to put some distance between us and the three teams below before we start looking up. Like your optimism though.
QPR up to 4th after beating Sheffield United, 3 points off the top of the table. And their driving force? One Sam Field. Don't forget, not good enough to make it here. Don't trust our kids and all that.at no point have I seen anyone (manager or otherwise) question Field’s ability, there is a reason we held on to him for as long as we did. His problem has always been his injury record and as we’d gone through the same troubles with George Thorne I can see where the club may have been reticent to give him a contract or try and build a team around him. Heck last season was the first time he played more than 20 games and even then missed 16 games due to requiring knee surgery. He’s a high risk, high reward player as he could crock himself at any moment.
at no point have I seen anyone (manager or otherwise) question Field’s ability, there is a reason we held on to him for as long as we did. His problem has always been his injury record and as we’d gone through the same troubles with George Thorne I can see where the club may have been reticent to give him a contract or try and build a team around him. Heck last season was the first time he played more than 20 games and even then missed 16 games due to requiring knee surgery. He’s a high risk, high reward player as he could crock himself at any moment.
at no point have I seen anyone (manager or otherwise) question Field’s ability, there is a reason we held on to him for as long as we did. His problem has always been his injury record and as we’d gone through the same troubles with George Thorne I can see where the club may have been reticent to give him a contract or try and build a team around him. Heck last season was the first time he played more than 20 games and even then missed 16 games due to requiring knee surgery. He’s a high risk, high reward player as he could crock himself at any moment.
Pretty sure Pardew did after a game with Man City (I think).Always thought Field was the right manager/system away from being a top player reminded me of Michael Carrick. Seems like he's played every game this season so fair play to him.
I always liked Field and thought we'd made an error when we let him go. He is exactly what we need in midfield.
Huddersfield ahead to presumably (not checked the table as it’s far too grim) push us down a further place and leave us only off the bottom because Coventry haven’t played as many games
Honestly, what will it take for the worst manager we have had during my lifetime to be sacked?
Blackpool concede 98th minute equaliser to Sheffield United making it 3-3 FT after fighting on with 9 men.
Sheffield United missed an 88th min pen and both teams had players sent off after the final whistle. Looks like a crazy game.
Blackburn currently top of the league having lost 7 games :oIt’s a real mixed bag of very average teams this season. The quality gap between the Premiership and Championship is getting bigger.
It’s a real mixed bag of very average teams this season. The quality gap between the Premiership and Championship is getting bigger.
18 month contract, that's nothing for Watford to pay off, he could be in some deep doo doo
Having paid so much compo in recent years, I bet Watford have performance caveats in the contract, although I wouldn't be surprised if they don't kick in until a minimum number of games.
Sam Field just scored for QPR, another terrible decision to sell him for pittance.
Should never have been let go for meBut he could never play a run of games, seemed injury prone and under developed, I’m happy it’s worked for him but I would have sold too.
Just been on the Watford Glory Horns site, the vast majority want Bilic out. He has lost 3 out of 5, whereas Edwards was sacked for losing 2 out of 10.But isn’t he Corberan ?
If Rocket Ron can hold out until the weekend then he may be available......
But he could never play a run of games, seemed injury prone and under developed, I’m happy it’s worked for him but I would have sold too.
Cardiff look bad. They will likely be relegation rivals with us
Cardiff look bad. They will likely be relegation rivals with us
Did anyone see Kipre's handball? Well the referee somehoe didn't. I know it's said all the time but the officiating in this league is horrendous.
Wigan Athletic have failed to pay their players on time for a third time with members of the squad considering their futures.
Does this mean they can cancel their contracts?
I think player salaries are practically guaranteed due to the football creditors rules. I think because of this they have to go three months without pay before they can rip up their contracts. Even if they could do it now, I suspect you wouldn’t until Jan when you can be registered to play for someone else.
Thanks JC. If they got to the point where they could rip up their contracts surely they would be classed as free agents and someone else could sign them as such?
I'm not sure you can even sign if you've been signed somewhere since the window closed. Thats why some players get released on deadline day so it doesn't make them illegible. Even if you could sign, you couldnt be registered until Jan so wouldn't be able to play. Thats my understanding anyway.
We are now rock bottom of the championship, Huddersfield are winning, how much more depressing can it get for us?
17 games and counting with no goals for Dwight Gayle
We play Stoke in a few weeks....
Tim Iroegbugnam looks good for QPR.
Instantly commentators mention how many good young players WBA have lost ;D
Yea I think we lost out on a very good one there infuriating to think we could have him & Field starting for us. Not saying he’s going to get anywhere near his level but Iroegbugnam’s style reminds me a little of Patrick Viera. Comfortable with the ball and glides past players without too much effort.
The league is now ridiculously close however even if we win on Saturday we could still be stuck in the bottom 3 after 3 wins in a row but the entire table will concertina up even more.
Coventry, below us a few weeks ago are now 12th and 5 points of QPR in 6th. This league eh?!
Huddersfield's win tonight puts us again 2 points off the bottom of the table, while wins for Coventry, Stoke, Hull and Boro move them further away from us - overall a bit of a rubbish night results wise.
Blackpool, Wigan and Cardiff all look like sides we should be capable of catching though and I hope Stoke's game mid week will leave them feeling short at the weekend.
Another win is crucial to avoid a gap opening up again going into thr 2nd half of the season.
I don’t think we will go down and didn’t even think about how tonight’s results were bad for us from that perspective. It’s reiterates how crazy the league is that we need to string more wins together to get safe, but a couple more successive wins could also make the play offs look realistic.
Blades win, Norwich lose and QPR lose again, 3 losses on the trot for the hoops now.
Seems Rangers have been affected by the Beale Dingles stuff
Southampton were so well run a few years ago but seem to be slipping now, maybe it was all Cortese's work. Villa paid Rangers £4.2m for Gerrard, so to pay the same to Luton for Jones is barmy. He is a decent manager but couldn't get Stoke going despite some positive underlying stats. It's a lot of money to pay for a gamble when £4m might have got you Wiegman or a top European coach.That isn’t a real suggestion is it?
Pretty strange appointment, no doubt he did well at Luton but he was absolutely shocking at Stoke. They gave him plenty of time and to end up with a 15.8% win percentage from nearly a year of managing is truly awful given they were a newly relegated club, one of the worst managerial performances ever really. Makes Bruce's record look decent.
The main saving grace for Southampton is there's a lot of dross in the premier this year. It's difficult to see either Bournemouth or Forest making it over 30 points so realistically its a case of finding one more club to finish above.
Just looking at the table and we have a game in hand over over the 5 teams ahead of us with a superior goal difference ( hope i have not put the mockers on it).
Proving timing is everything. He'll have netted quite a deal if he gets the stadium as well. Smart move waiting for it's owners to enter administration lowering the overall purchase price of both significantly before his moves were formalised.
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Rob Edwards being lined up to take over at Luton. I'll be interested to see how he gets on, if he gets it, as I had him down as one of my favoured candidates (not that I'm grumbling at all about CC).
Wonder what Watford fans will make of it given his short stint there, and the rivalry between the clubs.
Confirmed on a 3.5 year deal
Beale confirmed at Rangers. Wonder how QPR will fare now
They can't do much worse in the short to medium term in all honesty given their form's dropped off a cliff of late. He's got out before his stock falls lower than they have. It was still funny when he turned the Dogheads down though.
Beale confirmed at Rangers. Wonder how QPR will fare nowRangers pal says he was "Gerrard's brain" up there. Not a high bar, let's be honest.
Rangers pal says he was "Gerrard's brain" up there. Not a high bar, let's be honest.
Why and how are Sunderland playing millwall currently in a league that supposed to stopped for the World Cup?
Coventry FC have been took over by local businessman Doug King. Club is now debt free and he's offered 25m to buy the stadium for the club separately
Further to my earlier post about Coventry facing eviction from the Ricoh this take over still hasn't been ratified by the EFL yet either.Just wondering what the new owner is going to use the stadium for if he's banned prof. football and, Wasps have gone into liquidation. Pop concerts every weekend?!
Just wondering what the new owner is going to use the stadium for if he's banned prof. football and, Wasps have gone into liquidation. Pop concerts every weekend?!
At the same time, although they are rivals, don't want to see Cov go into liquidation.
He's offering them different leasing terms to the ones they'd agreed with the previous owners over a ten year lease. They're opposed to the new terms which cover them for twelve months on less favourable terms.
Pretty sure he's using the stadium as a bargaining chip for a renewed takeover bid as their proposed sale is yet to go through and is being contested by another party other than Ashley.
This really isn't making Ashley very popular with Coventry supporters. At all. Might be a good businessman but I don't think he's had time to read 'How to Win Friends and Influence People'.
Neil Critchley appointed QPR boss
Mowatt unused sub for boro, Castro on subs bench for Notts county, we should get these assets back and see what Corboran can do with them
Anyone else got half an eye on the Sheff U match tonight? ;DA few weeks ago we'd be hoping Wigan would drop points.
Norwich have sacked Dean Smith.
Shame as they have a decent squad and I think they will pick up now.
That's bad news for us and the other promotion chasers. Smith wasn't Steve Bruce levels of bad but he was holding them back to an extent i think.
To be honest never really liked him!
Well….wait see who they have lined up…..me thinks jake might be following down the A14
That's bad news for us and the other promotion chasers. Smith wasn't Steve Bruce levels of bad but he was holding them back to an extent i think.
No: only our senior management would be daft enough to call upon SB's talents.
Burnley are easily the best side in the division aren't they. A mix of a good managers, advantageous loan deals and a few really clever bits if business as well.
Burnley are easily the best side in the division aren't they. A mix of a good managers, advantageous loan deals and a few really clever bits if business as well.
Apart from the top two, who are clearly the best in the league by far, there really is very little quality. Norwich will be the main concern if they make a decent appointment. They would certainly be our main threat if we reach the playoffs, we could certainly do with them making a questionable appointment.
This league is so weird. Reading are 8th with a minus 6 GD, same points as 5th placed Norwich. Blackburn are 3rd with a GD of 0 :oA crazy division more so than ever this year 3pts separating 12 teams from 5th to 16th if this carries on the points required to get in the play-offs could be less than 70.
Apart from the top two, who are clearly the best in the league by far, there really is very little quality. Norwich will be the main concern if they make a decent appointment. They would certainly be our main threat if we reach the playoffs, we could certainly do with them making a questionable appointment.
anybody got the league table for this time last season
https://www.worldfootball.net/schedule/eng-championship-2021-2022-spieltag/24/
Norwich players doing everything they can to avoid the appointment of Bruce.
Watford losing 4-0. I'm not sure whether i want them to sack Slav or not.
They have 8 of the first team not available and majority of the fans realise Bilic cannot do anything about that. Many point the blame at the Pozzo family and they are in a lot of debt as well, so it will be interesting to see how this plays out
Things getting so bad at Everton they are recalling Ellis Simms back from Sunderland loan.
I read that this was a possibility yesterday.
It's like us losing HB. Hopefully, like us Sunderland won't recover from his loss and will fade away from the po picture.
However, if Everton realise that Simms isn't up to the task of orem football yet or they bring another forward in, I would try to get simms in on loan.
It's since been confirmed by Everton. He's back there now.
Edit - I'd like us to go for Archer on loan from Villa personally
I'd be very surprised if we got Archer as it's been mooted he could be in for a permanent move. Unless Grant leaves I don't see that coming to pass eventhough he'd be a good acquisition, especially on a loan to permanent basis. Been linked with moves to Boro, Sunderland and Preston for a while.
It's since been confirmed by Everton. He's back there now.
Edit - I'd like us to go for Archer on loan from Villa personally
Transfer window opening tomorrow? Time for the rumours and tat thread to come alive 8)
Long way to go yet but can you remember the last time a championship season has had such a clear front two as this year and promotion seemingly already settled for them? Sure there have been plenty of league winners to run away with it but can’t really recall two being so far out in front.
QPR lead Blades 1-0 at HT.
QPR a strange team. 2/3 decent players surrounded by a lot of athletic players but they are not excellent footballers as such.
Whilst Sheff Utd dropping points is good news, I have always fancied QPR to come good, as they have some talented players. They could end up being our main promotion rivals.
Not sure about QPR. At this stage I think our challenge is against Boro, Watford, Millwall, Sunderland and Norwich.It’s so good to be looking upwards. After 50 years with our lot, being unpredictable is the best place to be in. Looking forward to some end of season memories.
It's almost certainly going to get harder from here out though and progress up the table looks like it now slow down. We could easily lose the next two matches and find ourselves 5/6 points off it again.
Percy reckons Wagners got the Nowich job and will be in charge for cup tie
No doubt he had to stave off the competition to pick up the baton from Smith.........Just hope he doesn’t get a tune out of them ;D :D
Just hope he doesn’t get a tune out of them ;D :D
They are a bit like us really if he can orchestrate them like CC, then they will be rivals. I think Norwich have got a bit of brass available to strengthen the team too ;D.Hoping their woes are unfinished and their promotion rhetoric is just wind :D
Still think we should have a go at this.Have heard that Villa wanted assurances over playing time which put a lot off
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Have heard that Villa wanted assurances over playing time which put a lot off
Still think we should have a go at this.
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EDIT - O'Rourke says it's already agreed.
Umm - that would give us 3 young Championship quality strikers - Archer would be on good money and probably a guarantee that he would play a certain amount of games .
Doesn’t make sense on any level - not to mention the discontent it would cause to the harmony we have with Dicke & Asante ???
If BTA or Dike get injured that leaves us with 1 decent CF. CC has said he doesn't see Grant as a striker.
If BTA or Dike get injured that leaves us with 1 decent CF. CC has said he doesn't see Grant as a striker.
Has he? When did he say that and any idea what role he has in mind for him? Not being belligerent or anything, I just haven't seen it quoted anywhere.
It's a risk, but you probably have to make do with having Grant, Cleary and Zohore as back up. I don't see how we can really afford to have a third centre forward sitting around the squad with our budget constraints.
Having a cup of tea so here you go Dan.
"He's a very important player for us," Corberan said. "He was playing as a striker, when he is not a striker, so he was putting in the effort to play in a position which is not his position. He's more a winger, and it's true that, for me, the injury that he had hampered his growing and movement into the first XI. His injury affected the fact that he couldn't be involved with the team."
Cheers Gaz'. Must admit I've never really seen him as a winger in the traditional sense either though. More of a wide forward or just off the striker. Completely understand his references to the injury and being asked to occupy a role not suited to him.
Yes, alot of us would have liked to see Bruce get it for obvious reasons ;) However, Wagner may not be that much better. His record at Schalke included 18 games without a win, including a 0-8 battering by Bayern. At Young Boys in Switzerland, who he allegedly gave the peference to over us, he only lasted less than a year. Not sure of the circumstances for that.
Wagner appointed at Norwich. BOO, should have gone for Bruce.
I can just picture an impatient Delia at the press conference with Bruce making his way through his tenth Smith's homemade pie with gravy for a snack before his unveiling........
'COME ON BRUCEY, LET'S be 'avin you!'
Rotherham 3 Blackburn 0 I don't think Blackburn will last the pace.
Diaz wasn't in the squadWife giving birth apparently
Noriwch went 3 up against PNE within 30 mins. Why did they sack Smith???
The issue with Blackburn is that they can't find a way to draw, it's either win or lose. They've lost by the odd goal in a number of games, a more even side would have turned some of those defeats into draws.
I agree Hull but i'm talking about Norwich there :P
I think Blackburn rely too much on Diaz, if he's not on it, they lose. Would be crazy if went a whole season without drawing. Has that ever happened anywhere?
I don't know about that, but we haven't drawn in the league as well under cc, and given our predicament when he came draws would have been useless to us, as they showed to be under Bruce unmighty.
Regarding Diaz, Blackburn are going to have very serious dilemma in the couple of weeks. Do they "chicken" out and cash in on him (desperados like West Ham and Everton will probably pay at least £20m for him) or do they stick with him and lose him for nowt.
Losing that much isn't chicken feed.
If it was my decision I would sell because that Blackburn defence and defeats record is going to make them miss the po again just like they lost steam last season.
Apps has left Blackpool.
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Aaaannnnddddd Mick McCarthy replaces him! :o
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SSN say Sheffield United placed under transfer embargoWe may as well be we have rarely done a lot in the transfer window but the bar this season is scraping the ground.
We may as well be we have rarely done a lot in the transfer window but the bar this season is scraping the ground.
A couple of signings /loans could really consolidate our position and provide decent backup if we should be unlucky with injuries which as things stand could scupper our season.
The state of championship finances are frightening.They also have Ridsdale who has previous !
Kieren Mcquire has tweeted about Preston's position this morning. They are surviving on some pretty big director loans. Bear in mind, they don't spend much, and I imagine will have fairly average championship salaries.
Potentially points deduction for she’d Utd…
Really? Would love that. Earlier they just said transfer embargo.
That’s the start, now begins the investigation.
4-2 to Norwich...that's us out of the play off places..
sunderland loose ross Stewart for the rest of the season through injury. a big loss for them
Burnley lead at Norwich early doors.
Daft from Norwich
Ridiculous from Krul. He's not covered himself in glory at all this half
Blackburn drop points home to Wigan so stay below us. Can't see them being serious promotion rivals.I think it’s us /Sheff Utd/Boro to get 2nd place .
Blackburn drop points home to Wigan so stay below us. Can't see them being serious promotion rivals.
Blackburn drop points home to Wigan so stay below us. Can't see them being serious promotion rivals.
Even though I hate Sheffield utd, I hope they win this replay against Wrexham, as the more distractions and games the better, as still think we can catch them.3-1 up in injury time.
3-1 up in injury time.
Even though I hate Sheffield utd, I hope they win this replay against Wrexham, as the more distractions and games the better, as still think we can catch them.
Wilder seems a bit ambitious given they’re probably a good bet to go down.
I didn’t realise Blackpool scored in the last minute last night either which has probably prompted the decision.
Blackpool, Cardiff, Wigan have all sacked managers really - looks like Huddersfield don’t want to be left behind.
Results today?
Neil Warnock new Huddersfield manager till end of season according to O'Rourke
He just cannot retire can he…
Maybe the promotion specialist will end his CV with a relegation..
He's got to be about 75 now surely75 in December.
75 in December.
Burnley level with last kick of game pretty much
Means we can go 6th with a win tomorrow- above Watford.We need a win to get things back on track.
PercyYeah!!! As a one time Wycombe fan, will be more than pleased to see the back of Ainsworth. Bloke doesn't have any tactical insight apart from wanting to create a 'rock&roll atmosphere'. Includes running onto the pitch accompanied by 'Singing the Blues' or 'I'm a Wanderer'.
#QPR have made their approach for Wycombe manager Gareth Ainsworth and are now in talks. Compensation is already agreed and it's now Ainsworth's decision on whether to leave Wycombe after 11 years in charge
Yeah!!! As a one time Wycombe fan, will be more than pleased to see the back of Ainsworth. Bloke doesn't have any tactical insight apart from wanting to create a 'rock&roll atmosphere'. Includes running onto the pitch accompanied by 'Singing the Blues' or 'I'm a Wanderer'.
Also, Wilder and Nathan Jones being linked.
He sounds like he will take QPR down !I don't rate him as a manager. He tries to create a team spirit and an atmosphere with the crowd which he hopes will carry over onto the pitch, but the football is very basic.
I don't rate him as a manager. He tries to create a team spirit and an atmosphere with the crowd which he hopes will carry over onto the pitch, but the football is very basic.
Not such a good night for us. Norwich and Blackburn win and Millwall take a point v Burnley. However, Sunderland lose.
Millwall take lead after 3 mins against Luton, a terrible keeper error there.
David Button in disguise?
A draw's probably a good result for us, as they are both potential challengers.I wasn’t sure if a Millwall win was the best outcome. They seem to be the form team and it would make Luton less of a threat.
What's the old adage about just look after our own games and what will be, will be
A draw's probably a good result for us, as they are both potential challengers.A win for either was the best result a draw sees them both move a further point ahead
Shooting people down for chatting footy :o
i wouldnt go that far, i was just saying if we concentrate on our own performances we'll be better off than worrying about 8? other teams
A win for either was the best result a draw sees them both move a further point ahead
A draw is always the best result unless one of the teams is a relegation battler, less points go into the table. We’ve seen with Blackburn this season that avoiding draws is the best thing you can do in this league, a poor team with a zero GD yet we just can’t catch them because they win so many games.
If we can get the vital win on Friday we’d be 3 points behind both Luton and Millwall with 12 games left, far better than still being 5 points behind one of them.
A draw is always the best result unless one of the teams is a relegation battler, less points go into the table. We’ve seen with Blackburn this season that avoiding draws is the best thing you can do in this league, a poor team with a zero GD yet we just can’t catch them because they win so many games.Not convinced by that arguement. A winner last night would have left us a point nearer the loser and as we are likely to only have to catch one of them it would be a point less we have to get !
If we can get the vital win on Friday we’d be 3 points behind both Luton and Millwall with 12 games left, far better than still being 5 points behind one of them.
Not convinced by that arguement. A winner last night would have left us a point nearer the loser and as we are likely to only have to catch one of them it would be a point less we have to get !
A win for either was the best result a draw sees them both move a further point aheadWe won’t know if one of those teams getting those extra two points will effect till the end of the season. Better they only have point each, then it’s in our hands to gain 3 points.
Not convinced by that arguement. A winner last night would have left us a point nearer the loser and as we are likely to only have to catch one of them it would be a point less we have to get !
Blackburn and Lewis O'Brien deal finally confirmed as OFF by Nixon.
I had assumed that 4 or 5 weeks ago
i wouldnt go that far, i was just saying if we concentrate on our own performances we'll be better off than worrying about 8? other teams
Like I suspected the Fa cup is a distraction for Sheff Utd, it's just a shame we won't be taking advantage like Blackburn and Boro.
If things in the Premier league and League 1 stay as they are we're going to have some horrendous journeys next season...Soton, Bournemouth, Swansea, Cardiff and Plymouth, Sunderland, Boro....not forgetting Norwich and Ipswich. Oh Joy!
Some cracking Saturday 3pm away days from that lot in fairness. I stress 'Saturday 3pm away days'. Not 8pm on a week night, early Sunday morning etc....... you just know that for the most part the kickoff times for those fixtures would be on the most inconvenient days and times for all.
Watford observer saying Slav getting sacked anytime now.it’s official, Billic gone. Made it a whole 6 months too.
Chris Wilder favourite to take over.
it’s official, Billic gone. Made it a whole 6 months too.
it’s official, Billic gone. Made it a whole 6 months too.
it’s official, Billic gone. Made it a whole 6 months too.Madness. 4 points off the play-offs. Who would want to work for Watford. Wilder's not going to do any better.
Madness. 4 points off the play-offs. Who would want to work for Watford. Wilder's not going to do any better.
I do wonder if Slav might eye a move out of coaching & into recruitment. The bloke can spot a player, purchased some stalwarts for West Ham (Ogbonna, Antonio, Lanzini) & purchased Pereira / Payet. We were linked with Orsic who has played at champions league level & Vlašić who I know hasn’t set the world alight at West Ham but is doing well in Italy.Getting sacked by Watford shouldn't be a black mark on a manager's CV. I think Billic will do well elsewhere if he's given time. Similarly, Rob Edwards has gone on to do well at Luton. In fact, I had Edwards down as a possible candidate for us, although I'm more than happy with Corberan.
The only black mark is that season he took us up which was a disaster of a transfer window, Grant was Slav’s choice I wonder how many Luke Dowling was responsible for.
Wilder confirmed at Watford now as well.
that's them out the equation then
Can't imagine anything will come of it, but it is fairly obvious what the finances of that deal were all about.
Would love to see SHU bottle it
If Billy Sharp doesn't get retrospective 3 game ban for that punch today, I will be very disappointed.
If Billy Sharp doesn't get retrospective 3 game ban for that punch today, I will be very disappointed.
We needed a Blunderland win or at the very least a draw in that game, as a Norwich win would have meant they were 4 points ahead of us.
I was gutted with the Luton and Milwall scores yesterday, but feel a bit more optimistic now.
We need to beat Millwall.
Burnley hit with transfer embargo with immediate effectUnfortunately a bit too late to help us. This season anyway.
Unfortunately a bit too late to help us. This season anyway.
Embarrassing from QPRthey've gone to pieces since losing their manager to the other Rangers.
They're in big trouble.
I expect Colin to keep Huddersfield up now.
Reading deducted 6 points. Ooof.Something that all clubs are going to have to monitor closely. It can mess up all the calculations for points finished on quite drastically.
Something that all clubs are going to have to monitor closely. It can mess up all the calculations for points finished on quite drastically.
Reading in relegation zone now.Wonder if any chance that clubs above us get points deducted, for whatever. Otherwise called clutching at straws. :(
Burnley beating Boro. Stays like this and go up tonight.
Wonder if any chance that clubs above us get points deducted, for whatever. Otherwise called clutching at straws. :(
Watford at it again ;D
Watford will sack Chris Wilder and replace him with Italian manager Francesco Farioli.
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Watford at it again ;DLooks like he is staying. Watford issued a statement on their socials a couple of hours ago stating Wilder will remain for at least the rest of the season. They also make reference to the speculation being very disrespectful to Wilder and his staff. With the history they have of sacking managers its inevitable people will constantly speculate on the next one.
Watford will sack Chris Wilder and replace him with Italian manager Francesco Farioli.
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Looks like he is staying. Watford issued a statement on their socials a couple of hours ago stating Wilder will remain for at least the rest of the season. They also make reference to the speculation being very disrespectful to Wilder and his staff. With the history they have of sacking managers its inevitable people will constantly speculate on the next one.
That's very un-Watford of them to be fair. Looks like common sense has prevaile there for onceIsn't it just, your right though it is the common sense thing to do this late in the season.
Up the blues!Try telling them on the after match debate. What a joyless bunch.
Thank you for beating Millwall, the hope continues!
I do wonder how Watford fans are feeling having sacked Rob Edwards early in the season only to find him in the play off places with Luton..........
Another example of basket case owners.
Kipre puts Cardiff ahead, Qpr winning as well and other game drawing.Fairplay to Kipre doing his bit to help :D
Fairplay to Kipre doing his bit to help :D
You had to go and ruin it Gaz ;D
Just have to mention Watford being 1-3 down
Them and Preston are capitulating
Pretty much perfect for us tonight
Some suggestion the cov keeper scored with his hand. Can’t quite make it out from any angle I’ve seen.It was such a goalmouth scramble, the ref could have penalised anything.
Still can't see us getting in the PO's purely down to our injuries and more importantly, our inconsistency.
Just like Albion though to go on a 7 game unbeaten run though now.... :-X
Still can't see us getting in the PO's purely down to our injuries and more importantly, our inconsistency.I’d be surprised if any of the teams around us wouldn’t want to swap
Just like Albion though to go on a 7 game unbeaten run though now.... :-X
I'm interested to know how you get your compendious knowledge of the teams around us. We tend to see a lot of our own players but take little interest in those of other teams. This is why we go into Europaen and World cups thing we've got a great chance and then ...If you are asking me (not sure the need for the “compendious�)…I go to quite a few neutral games and watch a fair bit on the TV …it wasn’t that long ago That Mowatt was “rubbish†but he’s now a starter in a boro side that are apparently much better than us,except we beat them convincingly…
Coventry winning. Expecting Coventry and Millwall to win today unfortunately.Thankfully both are running out of games.
Thankfully both are running out of games.
Millwall's form is really poor. I think they'll drop out, which will leave two spots for probably five other teams (Preston and Sunderland could both be removed from equation if they both lose next games), with Cov now best placed.
None of the teams outside the top 4 are consistent. Everyone's capable of dropping points. We are still very much in it.
Huddersfield complain to Burnley about the heavily changed lineups they are putting out since promotion - Nixon
Possible points deduction in the offing for 'Vincent Kompany's Burnley' according to the press.
Possible points deduction in the offing for 'Vincent Kompany's Burnley' according to the press.
Wouldn't surprise me. A lineup I saw a week or 2 ago resembled nothing like their usual xi
Fine line between getting players enough appearances for a Championship winner's medal and allegations of playing deliberately weakened teams it seems.
Luton win 2 1 booI don't mind, Sheff U won't quite know how to go about it, they may well settle for a point. If they were definitely up they might have relaxed and hammered us. Which to be honest they probably will do anyway.
I don't mind, Sheff U won't quite know how to go about it, they may well settle for a point. If they were definitely up they might have relaxed and hammered us. Which to be honest they probably will do anyway.
Coventry 2-0 up. That’ll be about our lot then
The last day is interesting though as it’s Millwall v Blackburn, Preston v Blackburn and Swansea v Us so if anyone slips up it’s then open to anyone who take the opportunity but Millwall and Coventry victories yesterday and today make things difficult for everyone else really.blackburn playing 2 games at the same time?!
Luton winning.
We could really do with a scrappy Blackburn equaliser and FT. Hopeful…
1-1 :D
The prolonging of the agony......and hope. 😁
The prolonging of the agony...
We're not going to make it, the goal difference really doesn't help either. Had we just drawn against Sunderland then maybe, but it's all ifs and buts.
Sky Sports have agreed a record breaking new EFL deal from 24/25 season.
From Sky Sports website.
"Each season, Sky Sports will broadcast a minimum of:
328 Sky Bet Championship matches
248 Sky Bet League One matches
248 Sky Bet League Two matches
All 15 Play-Off matches
All 93 Carabao Cup matches
All 127 EFL Trophy matches
The new deal represents a 50 per cent increase on the value of the current rights agreement and will see significantly enhanced exposure for all EFL clubs provided through on-air and digital support from Sky Sports to promote EFL competitions, clubs, and community initiatives."
Saturday 3pm KO's remain blocked from being shown live.
Valerian Ismael is a leading contender for the Watford job, according to The Athletic.
They've also got João Pedro going to Brighton at the end of the season
Piroe feels destined for a move now, 2 decent seasons on the trot. Gyorkes another who should get a move if Coventry fail to go up.
I still don't see anybody spending much on our lot though. Bewt hope is you loan out those you don't want, but can we afford to do that if we can't bring many in?
Sunderland getting top 6 not a surprise in the end. Clever, young loanees last summer. Amad Diallo a sensational signing, looked it at the time and it proved so.
Ismael to Watford? If so lets hope he comes back in for one or two of our players. Mowatt would be one for sure.
Said talks are at an advanced stage, you never know they may come calling for Mowatt & Dike £15m for both, helps plug the gap.
"Simon Stone
@sistoney67
EFL confirm 23-24 season will start on weekend of 4-6 August. New fixtures out on 22 June at 9am. Play-off finals over two weekends - L1/2 on 18/19 May. Championship on 26 May."
In short the EFL are waiting for Sky to release the fixtures for them.
Sky Sports have agreed a record breaking new EFL deal from 24/25 season.Does anyone know if Sky will be showing more Championship matches than this season?
From Sky Sports website.
"Each season, Sky Sports will broadcast a minimum of:
328 Sky Bet Championship matches
248 Sky Bet League One matches
248 Sky Bet League Two matches
All 15 Play-Off matches
All 93 Carabao Cup matches
All 127 EFL Trophy matches
The new deal represents a 50 per cent increase on the value of the current rights agreement and will see significantly enhanced exposure for all EFL clubs provided through on-air and digital support from Sky Sports to promote EFL competitions, clubs, and community initiatives."
Saturday 3pm KO's remain blocked from being shown live.
Does anyone know if Sky will be showing more Championship matches than this season?
Sky Sports have agreed a record breaking new EFL deal from 24/25 season.
From Sky Sports website.
"Each season, Sky Sports will broadcast a minimum of:
328 Sky Bet Championship matches
248 Sky Bet League One matches
248 Sky Bet League Two matches
All 15 Play-Off matches
All 93 Carabao Cup matches
All 127 EFL Trophy matches
The new deal represents a 50 per cent increase on the value of the current rights agreement and will see significantly enhanced exposure for all EFL clubs provided through on-air and digital support from Sky Sports to promote EFL competitions, clubs, and community initiatives."
Saturday 3pm KO's remain blocked from being shown live.
Val confirmed at Watford hopefully he comes calling for Mowatt to get him off the wage bill.
At the end of the day, Bruce has cost us a place in the Play Offs as I'm sure we would have otherwise achieved it with CC in charge for longer. Even now, there's only 3 points between us and Sunderland which is not a massive shortfall. The only team that was clearly better over 46 games was Burnley. Sheff Utd were beatable on the evidence from a couple of weeks ago.Interesting that you are clear that Bruce cost us a play off place and mention Sheff Utd and Burnley
Our problem now is the financial situation at the club. Somehow, we have to be very clever in our wheelings and dealings. If we have to let some of our best players go (and let's hope that's kept at a minimum), our recruitment must be spot on. That means having a recruitment team that really know how to assess and spot talent. Ian Pearce's role in this needs to be assessed critically. Also, CC needs a major input so that he's confident new players will fit into his system.
Interesting that you are clear that Bruce cost us a play off place and mention Sheff Utd and Burnley
Bruce was unbeaten against those 2 this season,Corberan was in charge for 3 games against them and lost all 3 ..
I get that Corberan has got us higher up the table,but he ain’t invincible and has made plenty errors .
Interesting that you are clear that Bruce cost us a play off place and mention Sheff Utd and BurnleyThis doesn’t take into account a number of key factors 1) The Sheff Utd game was CCs first 2) Bruce didn’t win any of the games against either in the league 3) They both improved as the season went on 4) injuries, certainly the last game against Sheff Utd we were down to the bare bones !
Bruce was unbeaten against those 2 this season,Corberan was in charge for 3 games against them and lost all 3 ..
I get that Corberan has got us higher up the table,but he ain’t invincible and has made plenty errors .
Think VI will do well at Watford. I still think had we had a half decent striker he would have possibly got us promoted. I don't think the football was as bad as some made out and people certainly would have lived with it if we had put the ball in the net.
Thanks Dan. I did see the post, but didn't properly read/understand what was meant by:
The new deal represents a 50 per cent increase on the value of the current rights agreement and will see significantly enhanced exposure for all EFL clubs
I think though the message is, sign up with us (Sky) or expect even more hassle watching games than this season.
Interesting that you are clear that Bruce cost us a play off place and mention Sheff Utd and Burnley
Bruce was unbeaten against those 2 this season,Corberan was in charge for 3 games against them and lost all 3 ..
I get that Corberan has got us higher up the table,but he ain’t invincible and has made plenty errors .
I too, am convinced that Bruce is entirely responsible for all our failings this year.
He should have gone last summer and if he was still here we would have been relegated.
I honestly didn't think there would be anyone willing to defend such abject failure like Bruce, especially with superious reasons for him doing better than cc.
Surely you cannot be serious, when you say Bruce did better against Burnley and Sheff Utd, especially as your sums don't add up as Bruce didn't face Sheff United at all?
Furthermore, can you list the plentiful errors CC made?
True. He also had to contend with a lot more injuries and a squad that was thoroughly disorganised, wide open, largely beaten and lacking in confidence than the one Bruce had at the start of the season compared to when he left.All of that
Carlos Corberan isn't perfect in my opinion and he's made mistakes but he's light years ahead of Bruce in terms of preparation and tactics. I know which one I'd prefer to have in charge moving forward.
While Corberan isn't Corberan, and I never thought we had one of the best squads depth wise in this division, I think it's fair to suggest he'd have made a better fist of having us in the top six over the course of a season than Bruce.
Lamouchi not being kept on by Cardiff. Based on results that's a bit of a shock as I thought he was quite liked thereYes, I'm guessing it must have been a money and contract disagreement.
Luton have ran them ragged and proven that a HUGE part of the recipe to success in this division is effort/workrate.
Having worked in Coventry on and off over the years I can confirm the majority of their supporters whom I've encountered would be utterly insufferable were they to win the playoffs.
With their recent takeover, new backing and boosted gates next season following this season's playoff run they'll be more of a force next season should Luton Town win. Torn.
On the other hand it could be fun to hear Klipperty whingeing like an old fish wife about the length of the grass, general facilities and everything that is Kenilworth Road should Luton take at least a point from 'Pool.
Having worked in Coventry on and off over the years I can confirm the majority of their supporters whom I've encountered would be utterly insufferable were they to win the playoffs.
Being born in and having lived in the city for the last 10 years, I can confirm this. I think it comes from having been in the top division for as long as they were. Of course we are generalising and I personally hope they do it for a number of good friends and family who are very reasonable Cov fans but there is an element of entitlement and arrogance for sure. Even last night at the pub someone asked me, on numerous occasions, "what do you think of this as a West Brom fan?" in an unsuccessful attempt to goad me.
Separately though, I didn't realise it has been 22 years since they got relegated from the Premier League. It very much feels like if it doesn't happen for us next season, we could be in for a barren spell of similar proportions but of course I hope I am wrong.
Speaking personally, from many away trips to teams in this division, there are far more sets of annoying fans than Coventry's. I think Luton will win but we will see.
I am probably wrong, but I think I read that Luton have to upgrade their ground as it isn't upto Premier league standard.
However, as they are building a new one they don't want to waste money doing the upgrades, so there was a potential ground share being mooted with the fake Wimbledon.
I didn't have a beef with Luton until I discovered that nick Owen was a big fan of theirs, but I can't stand Coventry and their deluded fans as well.
Now boro (will be a bigger rival next season imo) have messed it up I don't care who wins the final.
Coventry are a better team than Luton. In saying that Boro are, Sunderland are and we are. They have no real quality, they have a formula that works for them and they've hit a real run. It won't last past this season.
I hope they stay down, I see them as no real threat next season.
Have to agree to disagree there. Look at how many points they won in the season. Doesn't matter how they did it. I have no real interest in Luton but do respect the fact they have achieved the play offs 2 years running.Everyone will have a view on who should,shouldn’t go up but my God
Everyone will have a view on who should,shouldn’t go up but my God
Coventry or Luton isn’t exactly going to sell many more sky subscriptions,Luton’s ground is an absolute joke,there should be criteria in place at the start of the season and if you cannot accommodate 3500 away fans ,then you can’t be in the champ let alone the prem .
Unless you're suggesting there should be no home support in the Smethwick this criteria would present us with a problem.We could definitely accommodate if required
We could definitely accommodate if required
My point is that it’s unfair …
We pay what we pay on salary’s and have invested in the stadium ,over time their investment in their stadium has been significantly less therefore their spend on players has less risk .
I think it’s bloody awful that teams in the top two leagues have to cut their away following so much because teams like Luton get up somehow .
Everyone will have a view on who should,shouldn’t go up but my God
Coventry or Luton isn’t exactly going to sell many more sky subscriptions,Luton’s ground is an absolute joke,there should be criteria in place at the start of the season and if you cannot accommodate 3500 away fans ,then you can’t be in the champ let alone the prem .
You're saying sporting merit should come second to the sale of sky subscriptions.Whatever makes you happy
I was completely ambivalent towards the final, but I definitely want Luton to win now.
Other than a "lick of paint" in the west stand and the removal of the police box in the Smethwick, how have we improved our ground since we have been in the Premier league?
There are rules already and their ceo sweet announced the other day they are spending £10m for a temporary stand, despite them building a new stadium.
Whatever makes you happy
What I’m saying is you shouldn’t be allowed to offer coach trips, if you only have a car.
It’s not just Luton’s fans it’s every set of fans that visit or would at least like too.
I also said they should set the rules up ahead of a season.
Yes sure:Other teams have been refused promotion previously based on size/status of ground .
Rules like no promotion of relegation, eligibility based on turnover ...
Other teams have been refused promotion previously based on size/status of ground .
Blackburn have signed Nial Ennis.Unfortunately, we’ll be lucky if we sign his brother Peter!
Blackburn have signed Nial Ennis.
What a league. Not a compliment.The mess in charge of us?The only answer.
Luton, a squad with every bit of grit and determination dragged out of them with thier futures to play for.
Compare their executives with ours and you have to laugh or cry.
Well done Luton. Fully deserved in my view. They show what can be achieved and without spending loads of money.Spot on, and one of their key players , Adebayo, was under our noses at Walsall.
Diallo happy to go back on loan to Sunderland if Mowbray stays.
Boro going for Archer loan again.
Nixon tidbits.
Absolutely zero chance either of them will happen
Why?
Diallo, won't get into man utd team, but may get a loan to a prem club, but it wouldn't surprise me if markems got him again.
Boro will sell Akpom and either buy Archer or loan him by paying a big loan fee.
Six Yorkshire clubs next season in the Championship, along with 5 from the Midlands. Only 3 from the London region (though Watford is not London according to a Watford pal of mine).
Listen to your mate, Watford isn't London.Yep, its Hertfordshire. Not dissimilar to outsiders mixing West Brom up with Birmingham.
We now know the line up for next season. Frankly it is scarry the relegated teams are all a lot stronger than the Burnley team that just walked out of the division. Yes they do have to get things right (unlike Norwich and Watford) in terms of management appointments and player trading but if they do they should occupy the top 3 positions.
If Watford and Norwich get their act together the rest of the division could be realistically competing for one play-off place. Not only is the quality of the relegated clubs better the quality and the resources of the promoted clubs are far greater than the ones they replace. On paper Sheffield Wednesday, Ipswich and Plymouth are a lot tougher trio than Blackpool, Reading and Wigan.
Fortunately football isn't played on paper and this is the Championship so it almost certainly won't play out as expected but this season's line up looks a lot tougher than last season's
Cov agree 4 year deal to sign Dasilva
Inan interview for the BBC, Rob Edwards told how his team were planning for penalties as soon as they knew that were in the play-off places. They looked at research done at St George's Park into penalty taking and broke the goal mouth down into zones for each player given the possible keepers involved.
I think research is a word not present in the Gourlay-Bruce lexicon.
Cov agree 4 year deal to sign Dasilva
Inan interview for the BBC, Rob Edwards told how his team were planning for penalties as soon as they knew that were in the play-off places. They looked at research done at St George's Park into penalty taking and broke the goal mouth down into zones for each player given the possible keepers involved.I watched a talk on German tv about penalty taking, and they concluded it was more about self confidence than technique.
I think research is a word not present in the Gourlay-Bruce lexicon.
I watched a talk on German tv about penalty taking, and they concluded it was more about self confidence than technique.
Other than knowing how to take them in high pressure situations what would the Germans know about penalties beyond the Treaty of Versailles?:) I think too many years supporting Watford has stunted his ability to have any useful insights into football. Don't forget, this is the club with a stand in honour of Graham Taylor. :(
I wouldn't place too much faith on that German TV show if I were you Alex, just ask your mate from Watford what he thinks instead....... ;D .
He was one of the few frees I thought would be of interest.
Wigan look to have got rid of their parasitic owner(s), lucky sodsLucky - until they find out their new owner is Mr Lai! :o
https://wiganathletic.com/news/2023/june/04/club-statement-ownership-of-Wigan-Athletic/
A statement from the ownership group:
A deal has been agreed in principle for the sale of Wigan Athletic Football Club to a prospective new buyer - subject to EFL approval.
The prospective new owners have committed to resolving all outstanding liabilities at the earliest opportunity.
Further updates on this process will follow in due course.
EFL & SkyBet announce partnership extensionSod the room! There aren’t many industries with money swilling around to waste on a football club. I don’t believe fan’s spending habits change because of a logo on a shirt.
https://www.efl.com/news/2023/june/sky-bet-signs-five-year-title-partnership-extension-with-efl/
At a time where there's a discussion about ending gambling sponsorships within the game, the EFL decide not to read the room. Do you mean to tell me that they can't/won't find a deal with a company outside of the industry?
I can't say that I'm surprised, to be quite honest.
Lucky - until they find out their new owner is Mr Lai! :o
Sod the room! There aren’t many industries with money swilling around to waste on a football club. I don’t believe fan’s spending habits change because of a logo on a shirt.
.....I don't know if it had an influence on you or not but I can guarantee it would have with others.
Speaking of Leeds, rumours going round Twitter that Robin Koch has a FREE transfer release clause if Leeds were to be relegated and he is in the last year of his deal.
Both of these things have now occured.
Edit - load of.tosh
Seen this on Twitter
"🚨 HUGE NEWS - Rules on foreign players relaxed 🏴
Home Office has signed new rules for overseas footballers
Clubs in England can have up between 2 and 4 overseas players without the necessary work permit points.
Basically clubs can sign anyone"
Our top class scouting system will go into overdrive now after being held back by Brexit. Go go go
Excellent news if true. The only question is, is our scouting set-up ready? :(
There's a lot to unpack with the new rules. A quick scan through the doc I linked above suggests:
The previous points system is still in place, so this is for players who don't meet that.
This season, the Championship get two ESC players just by virtue of being in the championship. Clubs can get another 2 players if their weighted number of minutes for English players (based on the team they would choose to represent on the international stage) is above30% (1 extra spot), or 35% (2 extra spots).
Where it gets interesting is from one season to the next, players can go from being an ESC to not, if they subsequently get enough points or an Auto-pass via the original system. So basically any player who comes in as part of that 8, so long as they play 40% of more of their available minutes, they'll not take up an ESC slot the following year.
The max number of ESC slots for a club is 4, but obviously you have the original Auto-pass/points system in there too so it's giving quite a lot of freedom for teams to scout elsewhere if they need to.
I daresay some of the smarter operators will do some clever things with this system. For us, it might be we actually look to Europe a bit more
It is interesting. In theory, after 3 years you can have a full 11 out that didn't meet the work permit qualifications.0
I expect the number of foreign teenagers coming over is going to explode (particularly South American teenagers). If you loan a 17 year old with an option to buy at the end of the next season, you have a year to review them and decide even if they are worth another ESC slot next season (assuming they aren't quite ready to hit the minutes). Think you'll see English clubs rivaling your Portuguese sides in those markets more than ever.
To get the points required, you do have to actually play those youngsters, unless they can get points from National teams etc.
I had a quick look at the number of minutes played by English players (not British, for these rules), and I estimate it to be around 60%, so although the full calculation is done on a match-by-match basis, I think we're safe to assume we have 4 slots open to us.
Blackburn sign another one.
Rovers are delighted to announce the signing of Norway international Sondre Tronstad on a three-year deal.
Looks like they're getting their business done early. Don't know much about this bloke but he seems a solid pro. With Niall Ennis on board they have an artist and an artisan in Mowbray parlance.
Looks like they're getting their business done early. Don't know much about this bloke but he seems a solid pro. With Niall Ennis on board they have an artist and an artisan in Mowbray parlance.
It always seems like we shall be getting the bottom of the barrel again at the end of the window.
Like last year when we were one of the first to act and got two of the championships best players on a free?
It always seems like we shall be getting the bottom of the barrel again at the end of the window.
Like last year when we were one of the first to act and got two of the championships best players on a free?
But it’s easy yo just knock the club isnt it.
Not sure we were "first to act", more "threw the most money at them".
Not sure we were "first to act", more "threw the most money at them".Well we were certainly not “bottom of the barrel at the end of the windowâ€were we?
Darren Moore leaves Sheff Weds :o
What is going on in the managerial world
Darren Moore leaves Sheff Weds :o
What is going on in the managerial world
I’d love Darren Moore back without Graeme Jones interfering. Jimmy Shan as assistant, like it should have been last time. Tbh, it would be exactly what we need if CC leaves.
I’d love Darren Moore back without Graeme Jones interfering. Jimmy Shan as assistant, like it should have been last time. Tbh, it would be exactly what we need if CC leaves.
Ismael set to sign Tom Ince for Watford on 3 year deal by activating his 50k relegation release clause.
A 3 year contract for a 31 year old who's been phoning it in for years now except for last season with his dad managing him is certainly a interesting decision....
I’d love Darren Moore back without Graeme Jones interfering. Jimmy Shan as assistant, like it should have been last time. Tbh, it would be exactly what we need if CC leaves.
Doesn’t seem to be going too badly for Jones at Newcastle…
Pete O'Rourke
Burnley and Leeds trying to get Sam Field.
Hopefully if Leeds get him it will end their interest in Molumby due to their similar position/style. If it's a shootout between then and Burnley though my money's on Burnley.
Jones has got an experienced manager and DoF at Newcastle to keep him in check. Darren Moore was his longtime mate and it appeared as though Jones took advantage of his mate's managerial experience. Two totally different scenarios.
Think Thielemans and Maddison are big losses, with just Barnes left to provide quality from midfield. Also, Vardy isn't getting any younger.If he stays fit he will get 25 goals in this division
If he stays fit he will get 25 goals in this division
If he stays fit he will get 25 goals in this division
sorry, I just don't see it, I think he'll struggle to get 15. He's not the player he was.
Undoubtedly, will score against us though!
At least!
Yeah I'm not worried about Vardy he's well past his best. As others said he's odds on to score against us though.
Quick change of mind Gaz', that or you're trying to cover your derriere ;) .
36.5 year old Vardy should still outpace 35 year old Pieters to be fair.Jordan Hugill made Pieters look awful at Rotherham. Pieters ended up sat on the floor as Hugill threatened to score every time - he should have had a hattrick that day. Goodness knows what a quality striker like Vardy will do to him!
Jordan Hugill made Pieters look awful at Rotherham. Pieters ended up sat on the floor as Hugill threatened to score every time - he should have had a hattrick that day. Goodness knows what a quality striker like Vardy will do to him!
Yes i think this will be the season where mini-leagues form in the champo,similar to the PL.Personally, I think Leeds, Leicester and Southampton will be the top three. Behind them I'd expect Norwich, Coventry, Middlesborough, Sunderland, Watford and Blackburn to be close behind. There's then the likes of Ipswich who I think may be a surprise package. I would then say us, Bristol, Millwall and Stoke will be around or just below the middle.
I don't think the champo will get better quality overall but the 3 coming down will be better. The rest of the league will slowly get worse.
Personally, I think Leeds, Leicester and Southampton will be the top three. Behind them I'd expect Norwich, Coventry, Middlesborough, Sunderland, Watford and Blackburn to be close behind. There's then the likes of Ipswich who I think may be a surprise package. I would then say us, Bristol, Millwall and Stoke will be around or just below the middle.
Dean Smith favourite for the Sheff Wed job followed by Slaven Billic.Typical of football these days. Bilic to be appointed after Smith gets the sack! 😄
Jordan Hugill made Pieters look awful at Rotherham. Pieters ended up sat on the floor as Hugill threatened to score every time - he should have had a hattrick that day. Goodness knows what a quality striker like Vardy will do to him!
I predict Vardy will be next seasons Dwight Gayle. Once they start to decline, strikers can do significantly. Vardy's game was about pace and sharpness. Neither of those "qualities" will be what they were.
Seems like Liam Delap is going to Hull.
Despite his poor season last year, I think we should have been all over him.
There were rumours that Watford were after Livermore and Mowatt this morning but just assumed it was the Ismael connection however :
Adam Leventhal - Athletic
Transfer news: #WatfordFC in advanced talks with Jake Livermore over one year deal. 33yo free agent training with club post #WBA where spent 6yrs.
Story for @TheAthleticFC
Good grief they must be desperate.
Deal signed today - Romano.
Was very disappointing last season for 2 reasonable Champo teams.
He was, but he’s had some fairly lengthy injuries before last year and not everyone can burst on to the scene at professional level. Some need a bit of time.
On the basis we need a striker, and a highly rated 20 year old was clearly been available on loan, we should have been in. Balogun was poor for Boro, but after a taste of men’s football he went and hit 20 goals in his second season (albeit in France)
I bet Livermore's loving that. A move to Watford - he's from that way to begin with. Possibly thought his career was over at this level then he's given a lifeline.
Fair play to him, I hope he takes it. Overall, a very strange signing though considering Ismael's style of play...he's literally the last player you'd want running around at that age. The more I see of Ismael, the more I doubt his credentials.
Ismael is a terrible, 1 trick manager. 2m compo for him or 300k or whatever for Steve Cooper. Only us.As much as I dislike our current owners, I think at the time the jury was still out on Ismael who had done really well at Barnsley. Since then, it's been the only job where he's been successful which is telling.
As much as I dislike our current owners, I think at the time the jury was still out on Ismael who had done really well at Barnsley. Since then, it's been the only job where he's been successful which is telling.
Fabrizio Romano
@FabrizioRomano
Understand Manchester City 2002 born winger Morgan Rogers is set to leave the club to join Middlesbrough, permanent deal in place. Done deal. 🔴 #transfers
Rogers, undergoing medical tests now as paperwork will be signed today.
Don't know the fee but we have a sell on don't we? Won't save us from Lai but every penny helps.
Bet its for anything over the original £4m, which seems to be the norm now. Can't see Boro paying anywhere near that. Shame we couldn't bring him back given our situation. I've heard he was happy to stay when we sold him, even despite City's interest but we pretty much pushed him out the door.
Struggled since his loan to Lincoln but did enough there to suggest he could become a very good championship player and may have some chance of better.
Oh it's a sell on based on profit then yeah, it's nothing. I hoped as he was so highly rated it would have been a 'flat' sell on rate.Yes he played well against us , should have scored, and looked like he was trying to impress.
BLackpool fans saying he was looking a good champo player by the end of the season after getting regular match time in.
Yes he played well against us , should have scored, and looked like he was trying to impress.
Watford in for a long season by looks of training ground video on Twitter.
Val just going on about how if you press with intensity and force the opponents into mistakes etc whic is fine until the opponents give you the ball to do something with it yourself.
He's learnt nothing from his lesson from Fergie Jr.
In fairness it's Watford, he will probably be gone by Xmas regardless.
Watford in for a long season by looks of training ground video on Twitter.But we beat them. i think Fergie Jnr was just bitter because it was a very late winner.
Val just going on about how if you press with intensity and force the opponents into mistakes etc whic is fine until the opponents give you the ball to do something with it yourself.
He's learnt nothing from his lesson from Fergie Jr.
In fairness it's Watford, he will probably be gone by Xmas regardless.
But we beat them. i think Fergie Jnr was just bitter because it was a very late winner.
If they’ve got a capable striker they could be fine. We had so much ball in opponents halves and did create plenty of chances. Pretty sure we had the best defense in the league when he left and had only concerned once or twice from set pieces.
I’ll know it’s been done to death and not everyone agrees but I don’t think he was far off it here.
Ismael was more likely to succeed than the bloke that came next !
Blackpool’s Jerry Yates, 26, one of many strikers linked to us has agreed terms with Swansea.I would imagine that a 26 year old looking for the best contract terms of their career would be out of reach for us financially. We can’t compete for those type of players anymore.
Good goal record, good age and another signing by Swansea - they also beat us to the Exeter defender.
Blues manage to get 5m guaranteed and 5m in potential add ons for Chong who has signed for Luton.
Blues also announced the signing of Siriki Dembele from Bournemouth today.
Thought we should have gone in for Chong last year. Seemed a bargain at £1.5m with plenty of potential upside.
Blues have been making some shrewd moves this season considering their situation. Ethan Laird is a very good pick up for 750k, wouldn't at all be surprised if they profit off him like they have Chong - the kind of move we should be all over but never consider.
Then beyond that Roberts for a nominal fee is pretty low risk given his age and young enough it might come together for him, Bielik on a free is decent work and still only 25, Dembele's a decent talent, and Miyoshi seems an interesting pick up. All in all good work from them. If they can recruit well on loans (and they did a pretty good job last season), then they could surprise a few people this year I think.
Blues have been making some shrewd moves this season considering their situation. Ethan Laird is a very good pick up for 750k, wouldn't at all be surprised if they profit off him like they have Chong - the kind of move we should be all over but never consider.
Then beyond that Roberts for a nominal fee is pretty low risk given his age and young enough it might come together for him, Bielik on a free is decent work and still only 25, Dembele's a decent talent, and Miyoshi seems an interesting pick up. All in all good work from them. If they can recruit well on loans (and they did a pretty good job last season), then they could have a decent season.
Pete O'Rourke
@SportsPeteO
Wolves defender Dion Sanderson is undergoing a medical at Birmingham City today after they agreed a £2m deal plus add-ons for the centre-back. #bcfc #wwfc
Tessa Sanderson's nephew. Fact.
Tomasson considering quitting Blackburn after being told need to make more cuts. No funds availableUnless clubs have a very rich backer this is the harsh reality of football.
Unless clubs have a very rich backer this is the harsh reality of football.
Tessa Sanderson's nephew. Fact.
Let's hope he play football like her too.
It’s really noticeable how big Premier League spending has become when you look at the fee’s Leicester, Southampton & Leeds are committing to. All 3 clubs have agreed deals for players worth more than £10m & so far (I maybe wrong) the only player to command a decent fee is Maddison from Leicester.
I can see all 3 clubs spending between £30-£40m on incoming transfers this year.
It's the benefit of having saleable assets, something we sorely lacked in our relegation, when only an underpriced Pereira could attract interest.
It's like Burnley last season managed to shift 4 players for 65m, and reinvest 40m of it. These 3 clubs will end up making large profits also because they all have saleable assets and likely won't give them away at a pittance like we do.
It really shows up our approach to transfers and recruitment.
Yep. me and many others saw we were sleep walking into a disaster by keeping Pulis who was only recruiting players over 28 on high wages with no resale value and criticised it over and over again.
We are now paying the exact price that many of us predicted
Cardiff release statement saying they have paid the remaining Sala balance in full now. Finally.
Shame they couldn't have done the right thing much, much earlier and then could have paid a loan fee for grant.Unbelievable we're paying for this bloke, even when he's playing for someone else.
I hope so, I'm not convinced Griffiths is going to develop into a top level keeper, so of we can get £4m I'd be very pleased.
Another for Blues:
Blues are delighted to announce the signing of Lee Buchanan.
The defender, who has made 98 senior appearances at the age of 22, signs from Werder Bremen for an undisclosed fee, subject to FIFA, FA and EFL clearance.
He has agreed terms on a five-year contract at St. Andrew’s, tying him to the Club until at least 2028, as he becomes John Eustace’s ninth signing of the summer transfer window.
I was in attendance at his League debut for Derby County at theirs. Notable for us in so far as Kenneth Zohore equalised with an 84th minute penalty.
Dack signs for Sunderland -official. 1 year deal with club holding option of another year.......
....... dependent upon whether Mogga still likes his feet.
Lovely soft feet. A real.kink
Dack's does have lovely soft feet. Problem is he's also got glass knees.
Dack does have lovely soft feet. Problem is he's also got glass knees.Strangely I was at the blackburn vs Wigan game in 2019 when he had his last bad injury …the scream he let out literally made me feel sick
Blues:
Seven-time Super Bowl champion and entrepreneur Tom Brady has entered a partnership with Knighthead Capital Management LLC to become a minority owner of Birmingham City Ltd.
He’ll lose a lot of money, doubt he’ll get a quarter back.
Blues:
Seven-time Super Bowl champion and entrepreneur Tom Brady has entered a partnership with Knighthead Capital Management LLC to become a minority owner of Birmingham City Ltd.
I know it's early days for their new owners but Blues appear to be getting uncomfortably organised. This doesn't sit well with the natural order of the universe. It's just not right.
Seems to be an emerging pattern after Reynolds and McElhenney bought Wrexham.
Creed star Michael B Jordan is a part owner st Bournemouth, Jordan Spieth and Justin Thomas have shares in Leeds Utd, Jay Z being linked with Spurs lots pf celebrities attending Inter Miami games and now this.
You would think if Lai is to sell up this season, the investment will come from the US and may well include a famous person or two in the consortium. Its in vogue.
Seems to be an emerging pattern after Reynolds and McElhenney bought Wrexham.
Creed star Michael B Jordan is a part owner st Bournemouth, Jordan Spieth and Justin Thomas have shares in Leeds Utd, Jay Z being linked with Spurs lots pf celebrities attending Inter Miami games and now this.
You would think if Lai is to sell up this season, the investment will come from the US and may well include a famous person or two in the consortium. Its in vogue.
Nixon Patreon
Sheff Utd going for Akpom from Boro, reckon he's available for 8m to replace Ndiaye
That'd be a massive blow for them. They did well under Carrick but between him, Archer, and Ramsey thats a lot of attacking talent to replace. 8m doesn't go far when it comes to replacing a 30 goal striker even at this level. It was already a complete fluke of a transfer for them that he came so good.
Seems to be an emerging pattern after Reynolds and McElhenney bought Wrexham.Donald Trumps barmy army 🎶
Creed star Michael B Jordan is a part owner st Bournemouth, Jordan Spieth and Justin Thomas have shares in Leeds Utd, Jay Z being linked with Spurs lots pf celebrities attending Inter Miami games and now this.
You would think if Lai is to sell up this season, the investment will come from the US and may well include a famous person or two in the consortium. Its in vogue.
Didn't see this one slip through earlier but Cov have broken their transfer record to sign USA International Haji Wright from Antalyaspor for £7.7m
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/66411906
They are supposed to have paid a similar fee for Ellis Simms as well. Helps that they now have now been bought out my a local businessman. Another, like Blues, who have managed to get out of their ownership rut. Leaves just the one sick man of the Midlands...
15mins minimum of injury time over the 2 halves last night :o Going to be a rush for that 5.30 train some games ;D ;D
Those that leave around 4.40 are going to miss about a third of the season ! ;D ;D
Intrigued by the Boro Milwall game today. Alex Aldridge has done some smart things with Milwall's recruitment the last year or so. Zion Flemming was an incredible pick up, breaking their transfer record to buy a £1.5m play maker from the Netherlands, who then gets them 15 goals (but Brexit doesn't let you buy from abroad say Albion's recruitment team). This summer they have bought Casper De Norre from the Belgian league, Hibs relatively prolific Kevin Nisbett and a couple of interesting other cheaper additions.
I fancy them to make the play offs this season. Signs of real strategy there with regards to recruitment.
Watford 4-0 up at home to QPR
Stoke 3-0 up at home to Rotherham
Godden has missed 2 good chances for cov. They should be 3-0 up.
Dewsbury-Hall is going to be some player at this level.
Leeds 2-0 down at home to Cardiff.
Grant starts
Robinson on bench
No sign of Sawyers
Grant starts
Robinson on bench
No sign of Sawyers
Can we now expect earlier evening kick offs so our £1 a game season ticket holders can be home in time for bed?
Sunderland really missing DialloMissing Ross Stewart more !
Missing Ross Stewart more !
I’ve said before but think that Ipswich with their Head Coach, Kieran McKenna, could be a surprise package.
Romano
EXCLUSIVE: Arsenal 2003 born talent Charlie Patino closing in on loan move to Swansea, here we go! 🚨🦢 #AFC
Verbal agreement at final stages, club source confirms — details being sorted.
Understand it’s loan until June then back to Arsenal, deal expires in 2025.
It will never happen, but FIFA should have sanctions in place for players who decide they are going to go on strike to force a move without good reason. Should result in 3 month bans etc, unless there are good mitigating circumstances.
Mike McGrath
Sheffield United have agreed a deal to sign Gustavo Hamer from Coventry in a deal worth £15million. It will be #SUFC biggest signing of summer so far. Player set for medical and not training #SkyBlues today. More on @telefootball
Cov have absolutely rinsed another club for a crazy fee for a player with 12 months left on their contract.
Letting Sam Johnston go for free and dos for £7m says everything about us.So we should take whatever is offered for someone like D.OS?
We should never allow a player to walk for free and take whatever is offered before they they do so.
Only just realised that Blues, in their 13th consecutive season in the championship, are the longest serving club (they were the longest serving last season as well). It shows how transient the division is that in the space of a decade, most clubs will either be promoted or relegated, despite their being 24 members.
Derby and Forest managed 14 seasons before their promotion/relegation seasons, so it isn't set in stone, but it does mean you can expect something to happen at the Albion in the next few years given we are now in our third season.
Preston feel like they've been in the Championship since it began. Presume they had a brief stint in League One?
Just watching the Championship highlights. I saw the Southampton team and thought "that defence is top level for this league" and then proceed to watch some shambolic defending. Looks like they've fallen into the trap of chaotic Championship defending.
I've also taken a look at Watford and it's interesting to not that Big Val is playing a 433 this season. If only he could've been a bit more adaptable with us because that formation would've turned some games around in his time, when we needed those extra midfielders.
What formation is he playing these days?
Well if the post you've quoted is anything to go by I think it's probably 433 Gaz' ;D .
Well if the post you've quoted is anything to go by I think it's probably 433 Gaz' ;D .
Boro getting £12m for a near 28 year old, one season wonder Chuba Akpom is goof business. Surprised Ajax want him though, doesn't fit their normal bill.Surprises me also as to play the Ajax No.9 role, players need be very technically good with the ball and link up play at high tempo. They also prefer to coach younger players into their style. However, they seem to be getting more desparate seeking replacements for selling off their best players at a pittance. Having sold Timber and Alvarez to Arsenal and West Ham for well under their market value, Kudus looks like going to Brighton for maybe £40 million. Wouldn't surprise me if Brighton sold him on next year for £100 million plus.
Darren Witcoop
@DarrenOWitcoop
Nottingham Forest have blocked Lewis O’Brien from joining fellow Premier League side Sheffield United, who have now signed fellow midfielder Tom Davies on a free. But O’Brien still leave on loan to the Championship this month with a host of interested clubs. #NFFC
Looks like Watford fans already had enough of Val Ball....
What are they saying?
Only going by comments on Facebook and X
No plan B
Players playing as individuals, not as a team
60 minute subs....
Only going by comments on Facebook and XSounds like they’ve copied and pasted from our complaints dept. !!!
No plan B
Players playing as individuals, not as a team
60 minute subs....
Looks like Watford fans already had enough of Val Ball....
Leeds in for Lewis O'Brien. Loan with obligation to buy if promoted most likely. - Nixon Patreon
Also set to sign Glen Kamara from Rangers for £5.5m.
Incredible profit given he cost Rangers £50k.
Ryan Fraser of Newcastle having a medical at Southampton for season loan.
Surprised he lasted this long into Howe's term as Newcastle boss. Don't know whether he's been injured but I'd have thought Ryan Fraser would have been first out of the door over the way he left Bournemouth during their relegation season with Howe in charge.
Can't remember what happened there. Was he on strike basically?
Hedges scores a cracker to put Blackburn 1-0 up at Watford.Mike Bassett on line one
Does anybody know why there are 3 lunchtime kick offs today with only one on TV?
Blues Millwall is definitely because of the police. Imagine Bristol Swansea is too as I think Bristol do have a rivalry with the welsh clubs.
Sunderland Southampton is terrible for the away fans
Fully agree. What a journeyy to do for a 1230 TV ko. Assuming most got there last night after work rather than getting up in middle of nightNot got any better for them either!
Not got any better for them either!
Southampton 1 Leicester 4. Both relegated sides, but on this showing Leicester look streets ahead.
Ticket pricing is getting ridiculous. Blues want £35 for adults on a Friday night. And the game's on Sky. I don't know about Keep Right On (KRO) but they can definitely FRO.
Stop being tight and just pay it. ;D
Ticket pricing is getting ridiculous. Blues want £35 for adults on a Friday night. And the game's on Sky. I don't know about Keep Right On (KRO) but they can definitely FRO.
No chance. I'm not paying £7 more to watch the same two teams they'll be seeing at ours. They can FRO as stated.
£35 for the Tilton :o
So bunched in the middle. We are up to 9th just like that and just 3 points from 4th.
It’s a poor league again. I still think despite our deficiencies our squad is good enough for a play off push. We need approach each game in a positive manner like we have today.
It’s a poor league again. I still think despite our deficiencies our squad is good enough for a play off push. We need approach each game in a positive manner like we have today.
YEah, the relegated 3 are the best on paper but we have to hope at least one of them slip up.
I expect the 2 automatics to taken be Leicester and 1 other.
Then it's play off lottery where we are as good as anyone else.
In this division I always think outside of the battle for automatic promotion any team can push for the play-offs with the right attitude, application and management and we have taken a bit to get going but I'd say we have all 3 of those along with some very talented individuals.
Absolutely no reason why we can't push for the play-offs (January fire-sale aside).
Ticket pricing is getting ridiculous. Blues want £35 for adults on a Friday night. And the game's on Sky. I don't know about Keep Right On (KRO) but they can definitely FRO.
After 10 games for everyone we are 5th in the champo which is about where i would expect us to be with our squad.Given injuries to key players I’m actually surprised that we are that high in the table. It’s a good effort as far as I’m concerned.
After 10 games for everyone we are 5th in the champo which is about where i would expect us to be with our squad.
After 10 games for everyone we are 5th in the champo which is about where i would expect us to be with our squad.Considering the injuries we've had and the money other clubs have spent to strengthen their squads I think it's amazing we are fifth.
I just had a quick look at the average position of opponents for the top 6 teams, i.e. how well each team's opponents are doing. Hopefully it should be a guide of how well a team has done to get the points they have; have they beaten a lot of teams near the foot of the table, or are they beating those around them?
Leicester - 12.3
Ipswich - 14.0
Preston - 12.9
Sunderland - 14.6
WBA - 15.0
Leeds - 12.7
So Leicester are leading the table despite playing teams that, on average, sit higher up the table. We, on the other hand, have played more teams further down the table.
This doesn't factor form into the equation - Southampton lost 4 on the bounce, but sit in 10th overall.
Ultimately, everyone plays everyone twice, so it should all come out in the wash, but I think it's worth noting we've played only 2 of the current top 10, while the likes of Ipswich, Leicester and Leeds have all played 5 of the current top 10.
Historically we've always performed better against the better sides. Most of the teams we've already faced have been poor and we should really have more points on the board.
Agreed. We still have plenty of quality in this squad despite its deficiencies. I'd expect any decent coach to have us where we currently are. It's a poor league again and we've faced no team that has looked anything special so far.
I think we need as many points as possible before the window opens as I suspect we will lose a few in January.
Squad isn't perfect but it's still in the top 6 in this league.
I think the first 15 players probably are. After that we're very thin. I still believe we will have a slump at some point and drop to mid-table. That's with or without a few January sales. Let's say Swift/Palmer/Yokuslu got injured, I believe we would suffer a lot.
After 10 games for everyone we are 5th in the champo which is about where i would expect us to be with our squad.
Can't work out whether you're damning Carlos with surprised fainted praise or whether it transpires you were secretly quite content with the job the Scouting and Monitoring Departments did in the summer after all. If it's the latter I have to say you're a very dark horse Gaz' ;D .
Based on the first 10 games I'd give Carlos a 6.5/7. He's got us roundabouts where I'd expect him to have us
I'd have been quite happy to give last night's ref' a 10/10 hiding ;) .
He definitely deserves it. Atrocious by EFL standards even
IF it was a penalty in his head, why didn't he book/send off Kipre for the foul tackle? If fact when he did book him for the foul leading to the 3rd goal, I'm not sure he even touched the Blues player!
Bang on re the bookings. He also let Gardner take the free kick from further out than where the alleged offence took place as well meaning it was easier to get the ball over the wall and under the bar. Don't get me wrong it was well struck but it makes a difference. Imagine if Kipre had got two yellows for a none penalty and a none free kick. Weapons grade muppet.
I said the exact same about the free kick in the after match thread last night, how hard is it to remember where the foul happened seconds earlier.
Giving them corners when the last touch was from them, when it was right in front of him. He tried to give them every advantage possible last night.
Just like the Mariner vile revelation after that robbery at stamford bridge, I am just awaiting pictures of him on social media, in his dingle top high sixing other dingles in wolvo city centre today.
The fact is, both you and I now know he has reffed up over 4,000 games, as I too looked up this nobody last night.
Having failed to make it to the prem, he now looks like he wants to make a name for himself for being absolute garbage.
I cannot confirm, as I am trying to forget this cretin and therefore I not going to waste anymore time on him, but on another wba website a poster has said he was the same one who didn't give Maja a pen.
Fact is, because we don't matter to the national media, refs like him get away this, week after week.
Bang on re the bookings. He also let Gardner take the free kick from further out than where the alleged offence took place as well meaning it was easier to get the ball over the wall and under the bar. Don't get me wrong it was well struck but it makes a difference. Imagine if Kipre had got two yellows for a none penalty and a none free kick. Weapons grade muppet.I believe a free kick can be taken any where, as long as it's behind where the offense occured.
I believe a free kick can be taken any where, as long as it's behind where the offense occured.
I believe a free kick can be taken any where, as long as it's behind where the offense occured.
I believe a free kick can be taken any where, as long as it's behind where the offense occured.
6th placed Blues look set to sack John Eustace and appoint Wayne Rooney.
After all the celebrations, their new owners are just as bat s***crazy as the last.
Ipswich and Leicester running away with it currently
I'd say I've lost count of the amount of times referees have stopped play so a quick free kick can be retaken from the right place but the truth is I never started.
I just wish ref's were as enthusiastic about taking throw ins from the right place instead of five or ten yards further up the pitch too, another peeve of mine ;D .
Not sure if it’s right but have heard a whisper Millwall have sacked Rowett ?
Yep. confirmed he's gone
https://www.millwallfc.co.uk/news/2023/october/18/club-statement-millwall/
No insult to Millwall but I really hope they go for Alan Pardew. Just get him off the background noise of Talk Sport because his inane waffling does my head in. Come on Millwall do the decent thing. It's not like anyone likes you anyway according to your own ;) .
I've heard Potter's going there.
Harry Potter.
Joking aside, Rowett got the boot from blose because he was touting himself for other jobs, and I wonder if it is the same this around, as it's a very strange decision.
Rooneys first game in charge ends in defeat.
Rooney's Blues lose again.
Watched Rotherham Vs Coventry tonight on red button as we play them next. Cov look a shadow of last season's side.
Been saying for a season or two now what an amazing job Keiran McKenna is doing at Ipswich. He really has built a team on very little funds and could well get them promoted again. Surely destined for a crack at a higher ranked club. Ex-Man Utd you wander whether he’ll be back there one day soon.One of our own Chief Exec there too
Milwall has Warnock written all over it
Championship now very compact. We are just 2 points off 3rd place, but just 4 points off 17th place.
Shame that we didn't play them when Rooney was in charge.
Pearson has left Bristol City I believe ?
Sheffield Wednesday are continuing their ongoing turmoil.
Chansiri threatened to pull the funding on the club following criticism some weeks ago. They have since not paid HMRC, are under a transfer embargo (again) and he has requested supporters (who he already fleeces) stump up £2m to pay their bills. A total maniac.
Sheffield Wednesday are continuing their ongoing turmoil.
Chansiri threatened to pull the funding on the club following criticism some weeks ago. They have since not paid HMRC, are under a transfer embargo (again) and he has requested supporters (who he already fleeces) stump up £2m to pay their bills. A total maniac.
I didn't see anything in the match that shows Leeds as a promotion favourite.
In fact I think Leeds will finish mid table and thats the best we can achieve with these players.
All the better teams in this league will feel disappointed if they come away from Elland Road without a win.
As far as we are concerned. We are not capable of playing out from the back so why bother. Molumby will get booked nearly every match, sent off in some. He's just a liability and a very average player. Asante will run all match for you but he's not a striker for this level of football. He is league 1 at best. The defence gives you no confidence and will always look like conceding every match. All in all an average bunch of players who will finish nearer the bottom than the top.
Trying to remember who it was on here that I was having a disagreement with about Leeds being a promotion contender and them saying that they weren’t with me massively disagreeing.
Think it’s fair to say I was correct and they are a massive contender ;D
Trying to remember who it was on here that I was having a disagreement with about Leeds being a promotion contender and them saying that they weren’t with me massively disagreeing.
Think it’s fair to say I was correct and they are a massive contender ;D
I think "I told you so's" in November is quite brave in this league...
That was a strange match last night. Leeds defended really well. I expected an entertaining affair but Leeds were very prgmatic in their approach. I might be wrong as I was only half watching.
It was more the writing them off as a promotion favourite that I found baffling. They may not get promoted, but they’ll certainly be in the mix which is what I was arguing.
Not being a candidate is certainly baffling, they've got a cracking 11.
Yet another international break. I'm sure there weren't this many 30 or so years ago. When your team didn't have a game at the weekend then, it was usually because it was the FA Cup and they'd been knocked out already.I'm prepared to stand corrected but there was no such thing as an International break-even as recent as 20yrs ago. Just add it to the list of things that have deteriorated with time.
I'm prepared to stand corrected but there was no such thing as an International break-even as recent as 20yrs ago. Just add it to the list of things that have deteriorated with time.You are correct that there wasn't one in the UK. It was introduced because of lack of preparation time before international games and late drop-outs due to injuries picked up in league games played 3 or 4 days before the international. We fell into line with other nations by introducing the international break. Whether it's better or not depends on individual view and the club/country priority.
Rooney finally gets his first winBugger, much as I have a downer on Wednesday (big Dave) I was hoping that they would press the Rooney exit button
Swansea sacking Michael Duff
Vals Watford seem to be gaining some momentumIndeed lost only 1 of their last 5 ( v Leicester ) and Captain Fantastico has started ( and finished ) all of those games ;) ;) ;) ;)
Mowbray has left Sunderland ! :o :o
Swansea sacking Michael DuffYes Duff was known for pretty direct football in previous jobs which made it a surprising appointment in the first place given the Swansea blueprint of passing football. Mowbray to Swansea maybe ?
Yes Duff was known for pretty direct football in previous jobs which made it a surprising appointment in the first place given the Swansea blueprint of passing football. Mowbray to Swansea maybe ?
Alex Neil gone from Stoke apparently
Very poor timing in my opinion. They could have done the decent thing and waited until after they'd played us. No sense of fair play or humour. Boo!
Southampton behind !Unfortunately not for long 1-1 :(
Going round Twitter that Sunderland are close to appointing Michael Beale as their new gaffer.
Difficult one to call that (if it's true) as he was okay at QPR after a shaky start but his time with Rangers wasn't great.
Another big win for Val....
It seems Schumacher is leaving Plymouth for Stoke. Shame that.Stoke. Where all dreams end. Argyle must gutted.
It seems Schumacher is leaving Plymouth for Stoke. Shame that.
Beale takes over at Sunderland - official
Bit of bizarre appointment to get rid of Mowbray and then appoint Beale. It's not like Beale is a step up in class.
I do think though that Beale is much more aligned to Sunderland than he was to Rangers, or Mowbray was to Sunderland. Mowbray is very much his own man whereas Beale is happy just to focus on the coaching and setting the team up on a match day. His role at Rangers encompassed more than that and one he never really come to terms with.
Leicester beating Ipswich 1-0 so far
Good result for us if we still harbour automatic promotion hopes
Good result for us if we still harbour automatic promotion hopesWe don't. No chance at all.
We don't. No chance at all.
Jake L v TGH both in starting line-ups as Bristol came out on top 4-1 at Vicarage Rd.Jake also started in Watford's 4-1 win at Preston last week . He has had 14 starts + 2 subs so far (5 bookings) one of Valerien's "trusted" obviously.
Spurs have recalled Dane Scarlett from Ipswich due to lack of game time , he came on against us and nearly scored . Possibly the type of central striker we may have to look at it
Rooney to be sacked today -various journalistsConfirmed now.
Confirmed now.
Confirmed now.As predicted by every football fan in the land. Astonishing thing is it took them 83 days to realise what a numpty they'd chosen. For further humour, please see the world record he managed to achieve for the most erms in one interview.
As predicted by every football fan in the land. Astonishing thing is it took them 83 days to realise what a numpty they'd chosen. For further humour, please see the world record he managed to achieve for the most erms in one interview.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/video/webcontent/wayne-rooneys-first-press-conference-as-new-birmingham-city-boss-%EF%B8%8F/vi-JSqq9ueMGEwKxw?vid=3yTod7pyW9w&provider=yt&ocid=msedgntp&pc=LCTS&cvid=dee91cad21724407b6b67565b3d1890a&ei=23
I feel sorry for the aged ladies of the night of Birmingham as they'd just got lorry load of fixadent in the January sales.
Spurs recall Spence from Leeds
He’d be a good signing for RB
Spurs recall Spence from Leeds
He looked a shadow of the player against us the other night and the forest fire of old.
He might be one of those players that sulk when they're loaned out. Going to Spurs and then having to go and stay up North in the second division. Imagine!Apparantly has huge attitude issues, had a public spat with Warnock at boro and apart from that season with forest has been a nightmare everywhere hes been.
Mowbray appointed as Birmingham boss.
So depending on Blues result, the post-match interviews will be either;
a) I'll just go home and have a nice warm mug of cocoa, or
b) we'll take it on the chin and move on.
Hopefully he is less successful there than the granny lover and gets battered at our place.
Sometime back i posted the rumour that Koch had a relegation clause in his Leeds deal meaning he could walk for free, well turns out it was kind of right. It was then denied at the time and i edited my post to say so.
Reading The Athletic today there's an interview with him and it's confirmed he had a relegation clause with Leeds where he could leave on loan for any club that agrees to pay his wages in full with no further fee or chance for Leeds to refuse.
As he left on loan at the start of his last year of contract he has effectively left Leeds on a free and signed a PERMANENT pre-contract deal with the club he's on loan with costing Leeds any chance of selling him for a fee. OOOF.
Who said Koch's out?
Coventry definitely the team to watch for the play-offs. Suspect the rest of us will be battling it out for the final place.
They're the in form team and spending in Jan.... Coming on strong, can they keep it going.....I mentioned Coventry when there was a debate about how good our squad was compared to others.
Livermore with 2 identical screamers within minutes to give Val a 2 goal leadI used to get slated on here for backing Livermore, but i never wavered in my opinion. It was always the same people who now slate our own players (the same players all the time) but are nowhere to be seen when one of them as a good game Assante yesterday as an example.
Leaves to a standing ovation and his name being sung throughout the away end
Livermore with 2 identical screamers within minutes to give Val a 2 goal leadFirst time he's scored twice in a game. 1st was a cracking finish mind.
Leaves to a standing ovation and his name being sung throughout the away end
Bristol city have agreed a loan to (potentially) buy with Burnley for Scott Twine so his loan spell at Hull is due to end.Strange window in the championship this year, loans being cancelled and switched left, right and centre. Plymouth for example, have had all but 1 loan recalled to be sent elsewhere.
Strange window in the championship this year, loans being cancelled and switched left, right and centre. Plymouth for example, have had all but 1 loan recalled to be sent elsewhere.Wonder if it’s anything to do with them losing their manager in Plymouths case ?
Strange window in the championship this year, loans being cancelled and switched left, right and centre. Plymouth for example, have had all but 1 loan recalled to be sent elsewhere.
Twine to Bristol City offically done along with TGH in same day.Honestly, what do you think that post delivers? information, optimism, pessimism ? Bristol City has money we don't besides that I wouldn't change places with their situation over ours, for all our current problems we can overcome them.
Two young up and coming players brought in and 1 guy in his 30's shipped out. Let's swop staff.
Honestly, what do you think that post delivers? information, optimism, pessimism ? Bristol City has money we don't besides that I wouldn't change places with their situation over ours, for all our current problems we can overcome them.
It delivers information and also admiration for Bristol City employing people who can see past the end of their nose.Truthfully, information hardly, nothing that wasn't expected or well reported what I got from the post was another dig at the Albion yes we have a lousy owner yes our recruitment team suck does it help banging on about it no will matters improve one would hope so.
What do yuo think it delivers?
Truthfully, information hardly, nothing that wasn't expected or well reported what I got from the post was another dig at the Albion yes we have a lousy owner yes our recruitment team suck does it help banging on about it no will matters improve one would hope so.
Let's concentrate on the good things about Albion and hopefully what's just around the corner.
Twine to Bristol City offically done along with TGH in same day.Hull and Bristol are both below us despite signing players with plenty of potential and promise,with apparently “better”owners ?
Two young up and coming players brought in and 1 guy in his 30's shipped out. Let's swop staff.
Lively start in the Leicester vs Leeds game, Sarmiento still benchedI hope Leicester win, as I still think Ipswich are catchable for the automatic places.
I hope Leicester win, as I still think Ipswich are catchable for the automatic places.
I hope Leicester win, as I still think Ipswich are catchable for the automatic places.
I think it'll be Leicester and Southampton top 2 and us vs Leeds playoff final 8)
I hope Leicester win, as I still think Ipswich are catchable for the automatic places.They probably will not end in second place, but tonight they are 14 points ahead of us, and will not finish below us.
They probably will not end in second place, but tonight they are 14 points ahead of us, and will not finish below us.You are probably right, but that extra point makes it just a little more difficult.
I don't fear anyone in this league really. We threw a point against Leicester. Saints were lucky to beat us 1-0, Leeds and Ipswich are a bit over hyped for me.
Saying all that the play offs are a total lottery. We can beat anyone at home but also lose to almost anyone away!
they beat us 2-1 but as you say they were lucky.
We need to start wetting up points away otherwise we might blow the play off places. We currently have a ppg of 1.7 points away from home...1 win in our last 5.
Alex Pritchard is refusing to play for Sunderland and wnats to be moved on immediately, ooooo-err
Hull have publised last seasons accounts:
@KieranMaguire
Hull City publish 2022/23 accounts 🔑figs
??Revenue £18m (??18%)
??Matchday £6m (?? 12%)
??Wages £24m (??86%)
??Op Losses £21m (??162%)
??Player purchases £8m
?? Player sales £15m #hcafc
Our wage bill 50 per cent higher than last year? Sorry but I don’t see that at all.
For the sake of clarity our current wage bill is at least 50% greater than that reported in Hull's accounts for last year e.g. more than £36m and that is a very conservative estimate.
Beale sacked by Sunderland after just 12 games !
Beale sacked by Sunderland after just 12 games !
Sarmineto started for Ipswich but hooked at HT.
Sadly it seems Southampton saved their performance of the season for us. Was inevitable they were going to be fired up after that defeat at Brizzle City, just frustrating that it happened to be against us!
I think that there may be something in this. They put everything into beating us and were - according to Russel Martin - a bit flat last night. Pity the fixtures weren't the other way around. Still man for man they're better than us as would be expected from recent spending.
I think that there may be something in this. They put everything into beating us and were - according to Russel Martin - a bit flat last night. Pity the fixtures weren't the other way around. Still man for man they're better than us as would be expected from recent spending.
Leicester winning 1-0 at LeedsGood win in the end for Leeds. A couple of friends of mine were at the match and posted videos on WhatsApp- the atmosphere was incredible.
Coventry 3 down to Preston at home :o
Good win in the end for Leeds. A couple of friends of mine were at the match and posted videos on WhatsApp- the atmosphere was incredible.It was a good win albeit with 2 bits of luck. I wish we had that
Coventry 3 down to Preston at home :oApparently Coventry haven’t beaten Preston in the last 20 odd meetings !
Ilias Chair from QPR sentenced to 12 months in prison with a further 12 months suspended. Safe to say he's out for the season
Just read QPR's statement, which bizarrely references him being "charged with assault" and not commenting due to it being an "ongoing case". Pretending that he hasn't already been to court, found guilty and then sent to jail is such strange comms, even if he does plan to appeal.
Also will be a fascinating test of if QPR will sack him should the appeal fail. You can guarantee a squad/youth player would be sacked if racist comments were found on their social media, but will the lesser offence of (checks notes) cracking someone's skull open be treated the same.
Watford fans had enough of Ismael on Twitter
Amazed he's lasted this long considering Watfords history
Footage going round social media of Russell Martin refusing to shake Millwall players hands on pitch after their loss yesterday. What a sausage.
Clearly didn't want to run the risk of any of them giving his hair a quick rub.
Footage going round social media of Russell Martin refusing to shake Millwall players hands on pitch after their loss yesterday. What a sausage.
he was squealing like a girl when king carlos touched the ball
If we don't go up then next season seems our best bet to go up autos. Burnley and Sheff I don't think will trouble too much they seem so so so so weak in the prem, Forest and Brentford if Luton stay up don't fear them either. Everton should be safe old Dychey will probably get a couple scrappy wins needed
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If we don't go up then next season seems our best bet to go up autos. Burnley and Sheff I don't think will trouble too much they seem so so so so weak in the prem, Forest and Brentford if Luton stay up don't fear them either. Everton should be safe old Dychey will probably get a couple scrappy wins needed
Next season I reckon will be very open the same way the Moore season was ie non of the relegated sides running away with it
Burnley absolutely walked the Championship last year - you could argue they've been a bit naive with the way they have gone about things this year, but I would expect another strong performance from them.
I expect them to be up there but their team in the PL isn't as strong as the one that got promoted in my opinion
Burnley absolutely walked the Championship last year - you could argue they've been a bit naive with the way they have gone about things this year, but I would expect another strong performance from them.
From what I read most Burnley fans would agree with you, for example he did an Arteta and dropped Muric for Trafford for no reason and that lad looks so far out his depth everytime I see them play it's unreal. They also lost Barnes, Tella and Maatsen etc
The thing is Leicester and Leeds took it to the last day last year I don't see Burnley and Sheff doing that, I do agree they'll probably be up there like we were but can't see anyone running away with it unless their summer recruitments are top notch
What a gimp!Is that Dutch for Hottentot?😉
Is that Dutch for Hottentot?😉
Feels like i'm missing something here? It's gone over my head (not hard)See the Little things thread on the Woodman
See the Little things thread on the Woodman
Is that Dutch for Hottentot?😉careful now!
Leicester and Coventry already into last 8 , Southampton and Leeds still have a chance of doing so. FA Cup Final is the day before Champioship play off final . Any of these make it to both what happens ?
It would be nice to think one could make it, but without being a conspiracy theorist, it's probably already decided that 2 big premier teams make it!yup, of those left it’s high odds it’ll be two of Chelsea/Man City/Man Utd/Liverpool in the final just like every other year.
Watford losing 1-0.
Could this be the end of big Val for the umpteenth time
Millwall away is usually his last stand
Bottom half of the table looks tight
Leicester may well end up in playoffs at this point..
Would rather Leeds, Leicester and Southampton keep winning now. Fancy our best shot over two legs against Ipswich
YepI felt the same way in 1978. 😉
Ipswich are massive overachievers. Don't fear them in the slightest
I felt the same way in 1978. 😉
Saints post an 87m loss for their PL relegation season - Kieran Maguire
That's covered by the sale of ward-prowse and Livermento I think, but hopefully this season's loss is much bigger and they
and their greasy manager is still in the championship next season.
The report also said certain figures indicated they don't have many players on flex down so they should still deliver a whopping loss on this season too when all said and done
Obviously wanted Blose to at least get a draw with Hull, but I hope Mogga makes a speedy recovery but decides to go back after they are mathematically relegated (ideally along with Stoke) under the dingle.
It will be interesting to see when they are in the relegation zone if their inept Americans will sack Mogga whilst he's on sick leave, to appoint Lampard or someone of his ilk.
Is anyone else always looking out for Ipswich's results? I really want them to get that 2nd spot!
Strange because normally outside Albion I don't particularly care or even watch other Champ games lol
I’m the opposite in all honesty, I’d rather them finish fourth as I would much rather face them than Leeds, Leicester or Southampton.
pretty much the same
I would love to see where they would be if taking points over 80mins.
Living where I do, I keep an eye on their results and they have scored SO many late goals for wins its incredible.
Oh yeah I have noticed the same. Incredible mentality and they fight to the end, which they need to really as they don't have the most quality in the division
Watford OG from tonight. Oh dear.
https://twitter.com/saucywfc/status/1765468629661888578?t=FavJuk2rdWJ6IqbHVq3iZQ&s=19
Watford OG from tonight. Oh dear.Personally blame the goalkeeper for that it was on the fullback's head and the keeper was in no mans land.
https://twitter.com/saucywfc/status/1765468629661888578?t=FavJuk2rdWJ6IqbHVq3iZQ&s=19
Personally blame the goalkeeper for that it was on the fullback's head and the keeper was in no mans land.
Fair point , maybe we should sign the keeper Mullens could really go to town on him!
Valerian Ismael sacked by Watford.
Tom Cleverly takes over.
What next for him? He’s racked up so many clubs now in his relatively short managerial career. He lasted a lot longer than most at Watford though!
So blues then 😃
I think he's done. He's failed everywhere but Barnsley.
Watford fans making the same exact comments as every other club he's managed " one plan, no plan b" " puts players in wrong positions" etc
I thought Watford would keep him till end of season as can't go up or down realistically but sounds like things were getting toxic there, same as when he got found out here.
So blues then 😃
If he never works again, he shouldn't be skint, should he?
That said he has Stoke written all over him!
So blues then 😃
I don't envy the blose run in.
Hopefully they won't get sufficient points to stay up and Brady can give it large in the third tier.
I've got no love for Leeds or Ipswich but I'd be howling if Leicester bottle this ;D
I've got no love for Leeds or Ipswich but I'd be howling if Leicester bottle this ;D
ConfirmedGood fit. Have always thought Rowett and his football suit Blues.
Birmingham City FC
@BCFC
The Club can confirm that Manager, Tony Mowbray, will take a formal leave of absence until the start of pre-season 2024/25.
The Club has appointed Interim Manager, Gary Rowett, with immediate effect.
Good fit. Have always thought Rowett and his football suit Blues.
Gary Rowett close to Blues return until end of season - The Athletic
Wonder whether he'll be (allegedly) tarting his @rris to other teams while looking for better terms from his employers after every win this time around? Suppose he best win a few so we can find out.
pswich Town40% =105m, which values Ipswich at £260m 🤔, that valuation makes us a bargain for Mr Patel
@IpswichTown
📰 The Club is delighted to announce a significant investment from US-based private equity firm, Bright Path Sports Partners.
The investment of up to £105million secures a c40% stake and is an exciting step which will further secure the Club’s future.
Full details. ??
40% =105m, which values Ipswich at £260m 🤔, that valuation makes us a bargain for Mr PatelNote the investment is "up to" £105 million. This could mean anything, but may be (for example) the figure if they get promoted to the Pl and stay there for a couple of seasons.
Lewis Cox
@LewisCox_star
EFL on Champ PO dates:
6th v 3rd 1st leg - Sun May 12 (1230)
6th v 3rd 2nd leg - Thu May 16 (8pm)
5th v 4th 1st leg - Mon May 13 (8pm)
5th v 4th 2nd leg - Fri May 17 (8pm)
Champ PO final Sun May 26 KO tbc. #wba
Does anyone know what happens if Coventry make it to FA cup and playoff final?
Sure I saw in the week the play off final is put back a weekIsn't the Champions League final being played there then?
Sure I saw in the week the play off final is put back a week
Isn't the Champions League final being played there then?