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Re: England Cricket Thread
« Reply #925 on: December 05, 2017, 09:52:46 AM »
James Anderson is head and shoulders above the rest of this team. I actually feel a bit sorry for him.


BT are talking it up but this test will see a 200/175 run defeat.


Hope I'm wrong.

The Poms are holding their own at the moment mate.
It's not over till it's over and they're making a game of it.

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« Reply #926 on: December 05, 2017, 09:55:45 AM »
My nerves are shredded following this. It should have been out of sight ages ago, but..........

Smith dropped a clanger not forcing the follow on.
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« Reply #927 on: December 05, 2017, 10:11:34 AM »
The Poms are holding their own at the moment mate.
It's not over till it's over and they're making a game of it.


Proving me wrong thus far but needs Root to get about 160 of them.
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« Reply #928 on: December 05, 2017, 10:15:30 AM »
Yes, I am hoping he doesn't rest on his laurels, the hard work has only just begun for him

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« Reply #929 on: December 05, 2017, 11:20:04 AM »
Yes, I am hoping he doesn't rest on his laurels, the hard work has only just begun for him

Set up for a fantastic final day, should get a result before the late session, I hope. As my nerves will not take seeing that thing swinging around like that again.
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« Reply #930 on: December 05, 2017, 11:21:49 AM »
A good day for England, just a pity the top 3 went so cheaply.........

We didn't expect this when the Aussies went in to bat again!
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« Reply #931 on: December 05, 2017, 04:18:50 PM »
this is why i love test cricket the best team sport easily for me, a great days play
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« Reply #932 on: December 05, 2017, 11:36:37 PM »
It's a shame but the Ashes just can't be copied, it's totally unique and long may it survive and flourish whoever wins......no T20 6 hitting contest with every gimmick under the sun can come close.

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« Reply #933 on: December 06, 2017, 05:23:05 AM »
40 runs better than I predicted but left to rue the joke decision at the toss. Difficult to retain the Urn now.
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« Reply #934 on: December 06, 2017, 06:48:19 AM »
Was up at 3 saw Woakes and Root fall then went back to sleep

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« Reply #935 on: December 06, 2017, 10:30:02 AM »
Was up at 3 saw Woakes and Root fall then went back to sleep

A wise decision. I foolishly kept listening.

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« Reply #936 on: December 06, 2017, 10:35:00 AM »
A wise decision. I foolishly kept listening.

As soon as Woakes went second ball you knew what was coming.

I would have less of an issue with it if we were playing the Australian team of the late 90's, but this side are poor and are still trouncing us.

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« Reply #937 on: December 06, 2017, 11:19:43 AM »
As soon as Woakes went second ball you knew what was coming.

I would have less of an issue with it if we were playing the Australian team of the late 90's, but this side are poor and are still trouncing us.

I agree mate. This is in no way anywhere near a strong Aussie side.
Our bowlers are the exception. Starc, Hazlewood, Cummins and Lyon are all top class and England can't handle them. Our pace trio are consistently in the 140s and there is no respite.

But the batting is brittle. Take out Smith and we are vulnerable. Warner is out of form, Bancroft has promise but has not nailed down his spot. Kawaja is hit and miss and I reckon Handscomb is under pressure. Shaun Marsh has done well but he could easily fail in the next three Tests. Tim Paine is no Haddin or Gilchrist.

I'm happy we're 2-0 up but I didn't expect to be.
It'll be hard for England to come back from here.

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« Reply #938 on: December 06, 2017, 12:01:41 PM »
It'll be a miracle if this team avoids a whitewash.

Pretty much guaranteed to lose when their to have the batting collapse every innings and the bowling will largely be ineffectual from here on in. Usually they get away with the poor batting at home with lower order hitting, but the lower order always get wiped out by the Aussie bowlers. England have one genuinely good batsmen in Root, then a few hit and miss in Cook (who just doesn't look up to much these days I'm afraid), Bairstow and Ali. Then a bunch of awful batsmen. Poor selection decisions over recent years are unfortunately coming home to roost for England.


The mentality of this side is also pretty awful, they either win games where they're on top throughout the entire game, or lose. Don't have the ability to battle through tough days and come out on the winning side.
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« Reply #939 on: December 06, 2017, 12:21:27 PM »
after yesterday heroics normal service was resumed today. whitewash it will be im afraid
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« Reply #940 on: December 06, 2017, 08:49:04 PM »
I agree mate. This is in no way anywhere near a strong Aussie side.
Our bowlers are the exception. Starc, Hazlewood, Cummins and Lyon are all top class and England can't handle them. Our pace trio are consistently in the 140s and there is no respite.

But the batting is brittle. Take out Smith and we are vulnerable. Warner is out of form, Bancroft has promise but has not nailed down his spot. Kawaja is hit and miss and I reckon Handscomb is under pressure. Shaun Marsh has done well but he could easily fail in the next three Tests. Tim Paine is no Haddin or Gilchrist.

I'm happy we're 2-0 up but I didn't expect to be.
It'll be hard for England to come back from here.
Absolutely right. The bowling attacks are the difference. This match had the most 'English' like bowling conditions that we are likely to get in Aus plus England had the bonus of bowling under the lights when Smith chose to bat rather than enforce the follow-on. Duncan Fletcher back in 2005 wanted bowlers who could bowl 86 mph plus and we had Harmison, Flintoff, Simon Jones plus Hoggard to swing it about...we need to start looking for a similar combination.

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« Reply #941 on: December 17, 2017, 03:51:44 AM »
Hmm. Not many comments here gents.

You guys haven’t given up the Ashes have you?

Kudos to Dawid Malan for his 140 in this Test but if you made that you’d think you would have the highest score in the match.

Smith 239 and Marsh 181 were class knocks. Good fight back by England on Day 4 but only the weather is going to save them.

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« Reply #942 on: December 17, 2017, 06:33:44 AM »
39-2 looks like they've given up anyway
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« Reply #943 on: December 17, 2017, 07:18:32 AM »
Unbelievable not picking Tom Curran.  It seems Stuart Broad is undroppable.  Who’s in charge Bayliss and Farbrace or the players?  What does Bayliss actually do?

Reminds me of Eriksson and Capello.  Money for old rope.

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« Reply #944 on: December 17, 2017, 10:34:49 AM »
Can not take twenty wickets in a match, can not win the Ashes. Ben Stokes is a big miss and an injured Ali isn't helping.
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Re: England Cricket Thread
« Reply #945 on: December 17, 2017, 12:19:04 PM »
Hmm. Not many comments here gents.

You guys haven’t given up the Ashes have you?


Kudos to Dawid Malan for his 140 in this Test but if you made that you’d think you would have the highest score in the match.

Smith 239 and Marsh 181 were class knocks. Good fight back by England on Day 4 but only the weather is going to save them.
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Re: England Cricket Thread
« Reply #946 on: December 17, 2017, 12:38:56 PM »
England are only any good on English wickets , I think the whole county league sceen needs looking at. Do kids play cricket at schools
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« Reply #947 on: December 17, 2017, 01:38:23 PM »
Only one senior player has stood up to be counted (Anderson). Cook, Root, Ali and Broad should hang their heads in shame
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« Reply #948 on: December 17, 2017, 11:05:19 PM »
England are only any good on English wickets , I think the whole county league sceen needs looking at. Do kids play cricket at schools

Cricket in school nowadays is totally different

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« Reply #949 on: December 18, 2017, 12:27:24 AM »
Sadly this is what happens when every county side prepares green wickets where 85mph swing bowlers look world class. When you come up against teams in conditions that don’t suit, regardless of how bang average the team is, we just can not compete with them.

Agree about Cook, Broad, Root et al. Shocking performances