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« Reply #150 on: March 24, 2013, 05:34:42 AM »
Montenegro might pose a little more of a threat.....but I would expect us to beat them as well.
It's amazing how Montenegro even causes a stir, considering they've considerably less population than the city of Birmingham. Must be lots of good footballers there!

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« Reply #151 on: March 24, 2013, 05:30:15 PM »
They are a decent side hence why they top the group....

two very potent forwards, not an easy game but I would still expect us too win
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« Reply #152 on: March 24, 2013, 08:44:21 PM »
It's amazing how Montenegro even causes a stir, considering they've considerably less population than the city of Birmingham. Must be lots of good footballers there!
Have I missed something here ??

My post was a response to a post about about San Marino.......and compared to them, Montenegro may as well be Brazil FFS !!

Not saying Montenegro are anything, just better than San Marino.....which isnt saying a lot I grant you.
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« Reply #153 on: March 24, 2013, 09:57:21 PM »
I expect a tougher game on Tuesday, but then I also expect us to win this game. Come on England.
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« Reply #154 on: March 25, 2013, 09:14:29 AM »
Have I missed something here ??

My post was a response to a post about about San Marino.......and compared to them, Montenegro may as well be Brazil FFS !!

Not saying Montenegro are anything, just better than San Marino.....which isnt saying a lot I grant you.



If we cant beat a nation with a population 0f 650.000 then there is something seriously wrong.In saying that Montenegro have done exceptional to be where thay are
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« Reply #155 on: March 25, 2013, 02:08:08 PM »
Like Steve Clarke Roy will pick a team not to loose
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« Reply #156 on: March 25, 2013, 03:52:09 PM »
Like Steve Clarke Roy will pick a team not to loose
That doesn't make sense, how many times have we drawn under clarke? how many times does he put on attacking players as the game closes? Clarke doesn't play for the draw bar two games, West Ham at home and Stoke away. One to end a poor run of form and the other to retain points from a team we normally lose to.

Hodgson on the other hand, very much did try not to lose, hence why we won so often away when we had to do all the defending.

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« Reply #157 on: March 26, 2013, 01:35:07 AM »
Like Steve Clarke Roy will pick a team not to loose

Bit harsh on Clarke there.

Hodgson may well do that though. Since when has any half decent international team had to fear Montenegro? England should show them some respect but nowhere near as much as it seems they are going to.

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« Reply #158 on: March 26, 2013, 04:31:36 PM »
right then lets be having you England.Biggest game since Italy in the Euros
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« Reply #159 on: March 26, 2013, 04:42:52 PM »
Bit harsh on Clarke there.

Hodgson may well do that though. Since when has any half decent international team had to fear Montenegro? England should show them some respect but nowhere near as much as it seems they are going to.

He's got a point though.
 
With the flair of Ashley Young and Oxlade-Chamberlain to call on and the passing ability of Carrick it really wouldnt surprise me to see Parker and Milner start tonight.   Hodgson will always choose caution especially away.

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« Reply #160 on: March 26, 2013, 08:49:37 PM »
Hodgson will always choose caution especially away.
At times, last year, this translated into a very defensive, status-quo mentality, as I saw it. Not saying it was a bad thing, but I feel SC has brought a more experimental tone to coaching, and sometimes (not always) the results have been exciting.

By the way, it's currently Montenegro 0 - England 1. Who cares about anything else?  ;)

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« Reply #161 on: March 26, 2013, 10:35:35 PM »
A game of two halves, first half we were comfortable not dominant but looked the more threatening side. Second half we were poor some poor defending at times and a poor goal to concede too. However not a bad point against a half decent side.
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« Reply #162 on: March 27, 2013, 12:45:18 AM »
Hodgson needs to start being more positive, its not entirely his fault as England sitting back is something that's happened for years, but we were just hoofing the ball out of play and waiting for attack after attack after attack that second half. That with weaker centre backs playing, whereas Montenegro hadn't been able to get into the game first half.

There's really no need to be countering teams like Montenegro by being conservative, there's really no need to pick Milner for his apparent off the ball skills in a game we should be looking to take control over.

They've got a very difficult job to win the group now, and even to make the play off's will require a substantial improvement. It's got Euro 2008 written all over it at the moment I feel. I can definitely see a defeat away to Ukraine, and it's hard to see where a win will come from against Poland and Montenegro given our tactics seem to amount to sit back and wait for them to score.
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« Reply #163 on: March 27, 2013, 04:20:54 AM »
Hodgson needs to start being more positive ... and it's hard to see where a win will come from against Poland and Montenegro given our tactics seem to amount to sit back and wait for them to score.
You say this style of play has long characterised England?

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« Reply #164 on: March 27, 2013, 04:38:44 AM »
I wouldnt even call it a style of play just a team that has been low on confidence for many years scared to take a chance on the ball or mess up as they know how much is at stake blame wise in this country.

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« Reply #165 on: March 27, 2013, 05:16:00 AM »
all i can say is good luck to the people who will waste their money following England in Brazil.

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« Reply #166 on: March 27, 2013, 05:59:04 AM »
all i can say is good luck to the people who will waste their money following England in Brazil.

If we get there that is!

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« Reply #167 on: March 27, 2013, 07:53:01 AM »
Thats easily  the worst England team since the seventies
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« Reply #168 on: March 27, 2013, 08:23:17 AM »
First half it was a good performance particularly early in the half.  We took the game to them and played some lovely stuff.  2nd half we lost it completely.  Gerrard was atrocious, Carrick anonymous, Cleverly ran out of steam, Johnson thought we were playing in red.
 
It was obvious to everyone but Hodgson that changes were needed because it was inevitable that we would concede.  The Montonegran manager was proactive and bold with his changes yet Hodgson didnt react.  I'm not surprised though because he was exactly the same with Albion.
 
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« Reply #169 on: March 27, 2013, 09:08:51 AM »
How Glen Johnson plays ahead of Baines is beyod me. Lescott is also very average as well. If Mcauley or Olsson was English I would say they may be head of the likes of Lescott.
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« Reply #170 on: March 27, 2013, 09:11:44 AM »
How Glen Johnson plays ahead of Baines is beyod me. Lescott is also very average as well. If Mcauley or Olsson was English I would say they may be head of the likes of Lescott.

Isn't one a right back & the other a left back? I think Cole played instead of Baines.
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« Reply #171 on: March 27, 2013, 09:17:37 AM »
no creativity whatsoever.We dont have one world class player anymore.I totally blame too many foreign players in the premier league not allowing English talent coming through.How many players last night dont start for there teams
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« Reply #172 on: March 27, 2013, 06:54:57 PM »
Milner and Lescott can't get in their club sides yet play for England, Milner is poor
Johnson - shouldn't be in the side poor defender
Gerard - past it bring in new blood
Carrick - can't see the point - England need a Mulumbu in the side
Wellbeck - god knows what drugs he was on last night

They should start playing the U21's, but the problem here is off the top my head the youth and U21 players don't get the chance to ply their trade in the premiership and gain experience at a top level. The prem is a breeding ground for international stars.

Look at Dawson  - captain for U21's on loan from a prem side to the championship, we could probably say the same for most of them.

No point building a complex when we can't blood the players in our highest league.

Goodbye World Cup next year and Roy's job. Because his decisions last night were poor.
Even Cillit would have banged that one in..

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« Reply #173 on: March 27, 2013, 08:09:46 PM »
I just think where England are concerned pragmatism is order of the day. Roy is doing his usual professional job with the players he has. We are a good team but not a great team and will always get beaten by the best few teams when it matters. Until the whole way we teach youngsters the game changes we will remain also rans. I still enjoy getting behind them though even if deep down I know it will end in disappointment!

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« Reply #174 on: May 16, 2013, 04:14:51 PM »
Davis Beckham retires from professional football at the end of the season. Marmite for most.
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