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« Reply #450 on: January 01, 2025, 10:07:09 AM »
Didnt think I would have warmed to the idea of Schumacher or Williams but I have. Schumacher in particular is interesting, Cleary a good coach and now with a point to prove. Walters interferred and messed him around at Stoke. Williams too is building a cv and is also young and keen to make his mark.


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« Reply #451 on: January 01, 2025, 10:15:12 AM »
Considering Swansea aren't pulling up any trees in the league, I had a read around of their fans opinions of him and they were overwhelmingly positive. I certainly wouldn't be against him coming. Are we a more attractive proposition than Swanea currently?

I thought we demolished them in the first half this season and thought they looked terrible. Admittedly it was just one game.

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« Reply #452 on: January 01, 2025, 10:16:08 AM »
I am beginning to get a tad concerned we are going to end up with Schumacher by default !
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« Reply #453 on: January 01, 2025, 10:19:00 AM »
Didnt think I would have warmed to the idea of Schumacher or Williams but I have. Schumacher in particular is interesting, Cleary a good coach and now with a point to prove. Walters interferred and messed him around at Stoke. Williams too is building a cv and is also young and keen to make his mark.
Bloody hell, is Reyes that fed up with lack of playing opportunities, that he has taken up coaching? 
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« Reply #454 on: January 01, 2025, 10:30:54 AM »
I voted Cooper but I’m undecided again. Ideally I would like a younger progressive coach who plays attacking flowing football - wouldn’t we all?! From reading around on fans forums etc I’m not sure whether any of the rumoured targets hit the mark. My take is:

Williams - sorts the defence makes it harder to score against. Potentially a Corberan style?
Cooper - a bit too defensive perhaps?
Eustace - Pullis style but younger?
Robins - perhaps more attack minded but not so young and a bit middle of the road?
Mowbray - safe pair of hands but not going to take us forward significantly
Heitinga - unknown but possible a risk. Seems more progressive than the others?
Schumacher - don’t know so much about - how do his teams set up?
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« Reply #455 on: January 01, 2025, 10:31:41 AM »
Mark Robins appointed at Stoke, 3.5 year deal , on their official site so cross him off.


The ITK crew keep hinting at Luke Williams, Talkwba has just posted a tweet about Luke Williams with the 'eyes' emoji

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« Reply #456 on: January 01, 2025, 10:33:27 AM »
Mark Robins appointed at Stoke, 3.5 year deal , on their official site so cross him off.


The ITK crew keep hinting at Luke Williams, Talkwba has just posted a tweet about Luke Williams with the 'eyes' emoji
Not disappointed about Robbins. I wonder if Stoke already had him lined up?

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« Reply #457 on: January 01, 2025, 10:34:08 AM »
Not disappointed about Robbins. I wonder if Stoke already had him lined up?

No idea mate but they moved swiftly and got their man!

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« Reply #458 on: January 01, 2025, 10:35:48 AM »
Mark Robins appointed at Stoke, 3.5 year deal , on their official site so cross him off.


The ITK crew keep hinting at Luke Williams, Talkwba has just posted a tweet about Luke Williams with the 'eyes' emoji
I’m unsure about Williams. Swansea fans don’t seem that concerned should he leave. I know it’s only one game but we turned them inside out at the Hawthorns earlier this season.

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« Reply #459 on: January 01, 2025, 10:36:25 AM »
Its Heitinga or Cooper for me. If we cant get one of those two I would take Mowbray until the end of the season. if we get promoted with him and his health is ok then give him a contract extension.

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« Reply #460 on: January 01, 2025, 10:38:48 AM »
Its Heitinga or Cooper for me. If we cant get one of those two I would take Mowbray until the end of the season. if we get promoted with him and his health is ok then give him a contract extension.
I think I’m with you. Cooper would be less of a risk but Heitinga is interesting. I’m glad it’s not my decision!

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« Reply #461 on: January 01, 2025, 10:40:53 AM »
I’m unsure about Williams. Swansea fans don’t seem that concerned should he leave. I know it’s only one game but we turned them inside out at the Hawthorns earlier this season.


I know little of him but the little i've seen leaves me unimpressed in all honesty but Swansea players are not as good as ours so it's hard to tell.

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« Reply #462 on: January 01, 2025, 10:45:33 AM »

I know little of him but the little i've seen leaves me unimpressed in all honesty but Swansea players are not as good as ours so it's hard to tell.
Yes - coaches certainly have to adapt to the squads available to them. I read a while back that Schumacher had abandoned his footballing principles to make Stoke stronger at the back as he felt they were more suited to a physical approach. I wonder if he will go back to Plymouth where he seemed to be an excellent fit?

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« Reply #463 on: January 01, 2025, 10:52:05 AM »

I know little of him but the little i've seen leaves me unimpressed in all honesty but Swansea players are not as good as ours so it's hard to tell.

There are a lot of posts i want to quote and reply to but I’ll just quote the most recent. Swansea aren’t far behind us with a far lesser squad in my humble. I’m not a cheerleader for Williams by the way, i was quite underwhelmed with the link but I’m trying to balance out my opinion.

Someone else stated they want somebody with a proven track record of taking us up a level? Surely that would only be Mowbray or Bilic?! Unless you mean that can take us up if appointed, in which case of those linked the only one that ticks that box is Cooper, but you also want someone with contacts for loans etc…does that then rule him out? ‘You mentioned Harvey Barnes - wasn’t Darren Moore manager then, with his first managerial job?

If you start dissecting it, it’s really not that simple.
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« Reply #464 on: January 01, 2025, 10:54:01 AM »
Yes - coaches certainly have to adapt to the squads available to them. I read a while back that Schumacher had abandoned his footballing principles to make Stoke stronger at the back as he felt they were more suited to a physical approach. I wonder if he will go back to Plymouth where he seemed to be an excellent fit?

I don't know what the relationship between SS and Plymouth is like now because he left them but at the end of the day its just business and as you say they seem a good match.

There are a lot of posts i want to quote and reply to but I’ll just quote the most recent. Swansea aren’t far behind us with a far lesser squad in my humble. I’m not a cheerleader for Williams by the way, i was quite underwhelmed with the link but I’m trying to balance out my opinion.


I didn't say far lesser but i do believe our squad is superior on paper overall.

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« Reply #465 on: January 01, 2025, 11:02:13 AM »
I really can't understand why Schumacer and Williams are even being considered.

We need a coach who has a proven record of taking us to the next level. A coach who knows what it takes to get promoted or a coach who has contacts that will able us to get some good youngsters on loan, similar to Harvey Barnes who nearly pushed us to promotion.

Neither Schumacer or Williams can provide either of these. Both are probably capable of keeping us in the Championship similar to Corbrean but no way will they get us promoted or attract the right players. So appoint one of these two and just enjoy a sustained period of being an average championship club.

Such as?

I don’t see this as a club pushing for promotion across the next 18 months. It’s club that requires a huge rebuild due to the resetting of our finances. I really do not see the likes of Cooper wanting to be apart of that.
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« Reply #466 on: January 01, 2025, 11:08:18 AM »
I do believe our squad is superior on paper overall.

And this is a dangerous line. Our squad might look great on paper but Diangana, Wallace, Swift are in decline at an alarming rate, Dobbin, Cole and Racic have offered the square root of bugger all. We have a shortage of centre halves and a central midfield that isn’t able to progress us up the pitch.

It’s a squad with plenty of holes in it and whoever takes over will need to box as clever as Corberan did.
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« Reply #467 on: January 01, 2025, 11:15:26 AM »
I don't know what the relationship between SS and Plymouth is like now because he left them but at the end of the day its just business and as you say they seem a good match.

I didn't say far lesser but i do believe our squad is superior on paper overall.

I’m not saying you called it far lesser - I’m saying that. And I don’t even think our squad is all that great anymore either. I just think we have a decent 11 with 1 or 2 adequate back-ups.
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« Reply #468 on: January 01, 2025, 11:16:17 AM »
And this is a dangerous line. Our squad might look great on paper but Diangana, Wallace, Swift are in decline at an alarming rate, Dobbin, Cole and Racic have offered the square root of bugger all. We have a shortage of centre halves and a central midfield that isn’t able to progress us up the pitch.

It’s a squad with plenty of holes in it and whoever takes over will need to box as clever as Corberan did.


Definitely a squad with many holes in it but so have all champo clubs.

I like Grimes and Cabango from Swansea and that's it really.

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« Reply #469 on: January 01, 2025, 11:16:46 AM »
I’m not saying you called it far lesser - I’m saying that. And I don’t even think our squad is all that great anymore either. I just think we have a decent 11 with 1 or 2 adequate back-ups.

I'd agree with that, I think most EFL squads have less though

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« Reply #470 on: January 01, 2025, 11:21:20 AM »
 The window is open so we need to appoint a new manager quickly so that he can influence the signing of players who can play the way he wants.
 I know little about the assistant at Liverpool but if he is the type of coach the press say he is then I would go for him because we are more likely to sign and play young players.

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« Reply #471 on: January 01, 2025, 11:46:08 AM »
And this is a dangerous line. Our squad might look great on paper but Diangana, Wallace, Swift are in decline at an alarming rate, Dobbin, Cole and Racic have offered the square root of bugger all. We have a shortage of centre halves and a central midfield that isn’t able to progress us up the pitch.

It’s a squad with plenty of holes in it and whoever takes over will need to box as clever as Corberan did.

Exactly right. Names may sound good but the reality is less than good. And I don’t think we know enough to say that our squad is better than theirs.

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« Reply #472 on: January 01, 2025, 11:46:23 AM »
I’m not saying you called it far lesser - I’m saying that. And I don’t even think our squad is all that great anymore either. I just think we have a decent 11 with 1 or 2 adequate back-ups.

Correct. Our squad is bang average imo. We have a number of very inconsistent players, some who are old and none of whom would command a transfer, but who are considerable drain on our very limited resources.

Regarding our top job I saw Eric Ten Hag linked today. He'd have to accept about Ten quid a week though.

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« Reply #473 on: January 01, 2025, 12:25:05 PM »
And this is a dangerous line. Our squad might look great on paper but Diangana, Wallace, Swift are in decline at an alarming rate, Dobbin, Cole and Racic have offered the square root of bugger all. We have a shortage of centre halves and a central midfield that isn’t able to progress us up the pitch.

It’s a squad with plenty of holes in it and whoever takes over will need to box as clever as Corberan did.
Unless you ask Chris Wilder in which case our bench of Swift,Ronaldo,Gareth bale and Devente Cole is stronger than any in this league .
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« Reply #474 on: January 01, 2025, 12:26:43 PM »
Regarding our top job I saw Eric Ten Hag linked today. He'd have to accept about Ten quid a week though.

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