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« Reply #4400 on: December 23, 2024, 10:31:32 PM »
I certainly wouldn't be accepting any reduced fee other than the one we set unless it was very close.

If their ownership are as bad as you say then good luck to him. He's leaving to go there on only a 2.5 year deal apparently.

The problem the club has is once it is public knowledge that he wants to leave for Valencia it is over for him with the players and fans. They are negotiating with a gun to their head but they can't fire him without paying him compensation. It is not as easy as just holding out we need to resolve the matter while minimising the impact it has on our season. A protracted period of uncertainty is very unhelpful.

Terrible timing, but he's seemingly been angling for a move away for the past 6 months. He is the perfect manager to keep a side like us in the premier league and i'm surprised nobody made the move, but i'm not convinced he will get us to the prem given his slightly risk averse approach.

There are some good domestic coaches available on a free, but I wouldnt be shocked if you see Patel and Nestor go for a foreign appointment. A huge test of Nestor and the recruitment team's ability now, especially after a very underwhelming summer. Also a great chance for the likes of Diakite, Frabotta, Cole and a few of the academy graduates to get things going again.

Agree with this the timing is terrible but it does represent an opportunity for the ownership to shape the club the way they would want it but mid-season is a really bad time to be doing it
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« Reply #4401 on: December 23, 2024, 10:33:54 PM »
Cant make someone stay who doesn't want to stay though, especially if clause has been triggered

Where did I suggest you should, I simply have my doubts whoever we are likely to replace him with will be an improvement. The current squad is as poor as we have seen for over twenty years.
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« Reply #4402 on: December 23, 2024, 10:34:43 PM »
The problem the club has is once it is public knowledge that he wants to leave for Valencia it is over for him with the players and fans. They are negotiating with a gun to their head but they can't fire him without paying him compensation. It is not as easy as just holding out we need to resolve the matter while minimising the impact it has on our season. A protracted period of uncertainty is very unhelpful.



Agreed which is why I thought it was a cheek from Corberan. Romano saying they have triggered the clause in his contract though so happy days.

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« Reply #4403 on: December 23, 2024, 10:35:59 PM »
Where did I suggest you should, I simply have my doubts whoever we are likely to replace him with will be an improvement. The current squad is as poor as we have seen for over twenty years.

I've never suggested you suggested it. Corberan is the one who has been trying to get out. He's the one that doesn't want to stay.

Squad is poorest it's been in a long time I agree but so is the championship so it's relative for me

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« Reply #4404 on: December 23, 2024, 10:41:08 PM »
Would love to know how people know he’s wanted out for some time. Quite simply, you can’t know that. I know some think it’s fantastic news but I suggest we should be careful what we wish for.

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« Reply #4405 on: December 23, 2024, 10:44:00 PM »

Agreed which is why I thought it was a cheek from Corberan. Romano saying they have triggered the clause in his contract though so happy days.

Happy days.. how exactly?

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« Reply #4406 on: December 23, 2024, 10:44:59 PM »
Well gutted but it’s been clear he’s wanted out of the club for a while with the constant rumours. Left the club in a better position than he found it & can’t begrudge him a move to his boyhood club. Thanks & all the best Carlos.

The rumours have come because he has been doing a very good job, its not his fault other people link him with jobs, its also not his or any other managers job to comment on each and every bit of speculation.

Lets not try to ruin a blokes reputation who has done a very good job in very difficult circumstances and according to people around the club genuinely has feeling for the club.
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« Reply #4407 on: December 23, 2024, 10:46:47 PM »
Happy days.. how exactly?

Not happy that he's gone. Happy we got the release clause. Bad choice of phrase from me

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« Reply #4408 on: December 23, 2024, 10:47:49 PM »
If, as likely, he goes then I wouldn’t be opposed to a short term appointment until the end of the season and then reassess with plenty of time to consider the next permanent appointment. There may be some interesting options of coaches who would be prepared to take us on for the rest of the season.

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« Reply #4409 on: December 23, 2024, 10:50:14 PM »
His defensive record will be missed but I’m hoping to see us play quicker more incisive football. We may have nicked 6th spot but I doubt it. Lets play some football now, higher up the pitch and take some risks and we might just get in the play offs. Didn’t necessarily want him to go, he’s very likeable and no doubt he’s done well for us but every cloud and all that. Got to trust the new owners to choose the right man now.

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« Reply #4410 on: December 23, 2024, 10:50:34 PM »
At this moment Corberan is STILL manager at this club so please keep all possible future manager names or speculation off the forum.

If he does leave then a new thread will be placed for the next man in charge but at this time it is not needed.
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« Reply #4411 on: December 23, 2024, 10:52:54 PM »
The rumours have come because he has been doing a very good job, its not his fault other people link him with jobs, its also not his or any other managers job to comment on each and every bit of speculation.

Lets not try to ruin a blokes reputation who has done a very good job in very difficult circumstances and according to people around the club genuinely has feeling for the club.
Exactly. He's got an impressive record with us, so its not rocket science linking him to other vacancies, especially given our resources situation. Most of us could have predicted the same links. 
If he does go, its going to be a real test finding someone with the same diligence and coaching skills. I hope we've amassed enough points already to stop us spiralling down into the relegation zone.   
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« Reply #4412 on: December 23, 2024, 10:55:22 PM »
We are on 35 points. 50 is usually enough to keep you safe so if we get a new chappy and he can't keep us up with 15 points from 20+ games I'd have massive concerns over Bilkul and their ownership already.

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« Reply #4413 on: December 23, 2024, 10:57:31 PM »
Agree with the basket case club that Valencia are, and Lim the owner there is terrible, and his mate Gary Neville to a while ago, with disastrous results.

They have abandoned a half built stadium and have been fighting relegation recently.
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« Reply #4414 on: December 23, 2024, 10:59:25 PM »
We are on 35 points. 50 is usually enough to keep you safe so if we get a new chappy and he can't keep us up with 15 points from 20+ games I'd have massive concerns over Bilkul and their ownership already.
Yes relegation is not a worry, just need to get the right man in now.

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« Reply #4415 on: December 23, 2024, 11:01:00 PM »
It is reported that the release clause of 3m Euro has been met. That’s less than £2.7m. I thought it was a clause of £4m. Unless my maths is really letting me down, they ain’t met the release clause.

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« Reply #4416 on: December 23, 2024, 11:01:52 PM »
Yes relegation is not a worry, just need to get the right man in now.

I agree. It’s about as likely as promotion.

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« Reply #4417 on: December 23, 2024, 11:07:03 PM »
It is reported that the release clause of 3m Euro has been met. That’s less than £2.7m. I thought it was a clause of £4m. Unless my maths is really letting me down, they ain’t met the release clause.

Romano said clause has been met and it's over 3m euros. He didn't say exactly how much though

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« Reply #4418 on: December 23, 2024, 11:07:11 PM »
Would love to know how people know he’s wanted out for some time. Quite simply, you can’t know that. I know some think it’s fantastic news but I suggest we should be careful what we wish for.
I think, more accurately, about 90% of us think it is somewhere between bad and terrible news. Another 9.99% think it's somewhere between okay and reasonably good. And the other 0.01 % (Zippy basically) thinks it's fantastic news  ::)

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« Reply #4419 on: December 23, 2024, 11:23:59 PM »
Where did I suggest you should, I simply have my doubts whoever we are likely to replace him with will be an improvement. The current squad is as poor as we have seen for over twenty years.
No it isn't, get an attack minded manager in, who actually wants to win games in. And see what happens.

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« Reply #4420 on: December 23, 2024, 11:24:55 PM »
No it isn't, get an attack minded manager in, who actually wants to win games in. And see what happens.
you mean like Valerian Ismael?

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« Reply #4421 on: December 23, 2024, 11:30:52 PM »
you mean like Valerian Ismael?
No i mean like Tony Mowbray. Does that answer your question? Corberan is a manager/ coach who will keep a side up. Not get a side up to negative afraid to kill teams off, score then go deeper than a deep sea diver. When they move the ball quickly to feet this team could beat any team in the championship.

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« Reply #4422 on: December 23, 2024, 11:35:13 PM »
The rumours have come because he has been doing a very good job, its not his fault other people link him with jobs, its also not his or any other managers job to comment on each and every bit of speculation.

Lets not try to ruin a blokes reputation who has done a very good job in very difficult circumstances and according to people around the club genuinely has feeling for the club.

There’s no tarnishing of reputation in what I said or I certainly didn’t mean it that way, I think it’s been fairly obvious with the ramp up in speculation tying him to every job for pretty much the past 8 - 10 weeks that his agent has been extremely busy looking to get him a move. There’s been far more speculation in the last 2-3 months than there was last season when he was doing as equally a good job.

I certainly don’t begrudge him a move to ultimately a far bigger club & obvious ties to his family although it does feel a little like he might be going out of the fire to the frying pan with their ownership. Still I wish the guy good luck & appreciate what he did for us as a club.

Time for Nestor to earn his coin & the first big decision for this ownership group, let’s see what they come up with.

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« Reply #4423 on: December 23, 2024, 11:35:40 PM »
I know everyone on this forum is entitled to their opinion and so have I when I say anyone who thinks it’s great to see the back of Carlos Corberan has to be stark staring raving bonkers  🤪
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« Reply #4424 on: December 23, 2024, 11:36:47 PM »
The timing is horrendous !Who takes charge for the next 2 or 3 games ? Then the transfer window is upon us so new bloke will have to assess and make decisions on ins , outs , returning loanees etc. New manager ( if required) will have to come from somebody or somewhere out of season or out of work as we cannot afford the situation to drag on !!
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