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Re: New Manager 2022 Feb
« Reply #250 on: February 02, 2022, 05:47:48 PM »
Can't believe so many people would welcome Bruce  :o If it is him I can't see this lot getting much better, we'll scrape a play off place at best and he'll be gone again in the summer with us back to square one. Come to think of it I'd predict the same with many of the other names thrown around... And I'm usually optimistic.

I just hope the stadiums around here open up again soon, so I'll be less tempted to tune into the Albion every week. (Just for the record, if I'd still be living over there, I'd be going every week regardless of who's on charge and take my punishment  :D).
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Re: New Manager 2022 Feb
« Reply #251 on: February 02, 2022, 05:48:39 PM »
Rob Dorsett tweeted

Understand it may be a short-term deal being discussed between #wba and Steve Bruce, until the end of the season.
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Re: New Manager 2022 Feb
« Reply #252 on: February 02, 2022, 05:49:54 PM »
Is that half a season then - like many gave Ismael?

I don’t think many gave Ismael 23 games to impress more like 10-15 games max. Any poor run of form over a two month period generates immediate calls for the manager to be sacked. Not expecting that to change with Bruce or next season either. Heck, we’ve even have fans calling for the manager to be sacked on the back of promotion. Bruce will probably get that treatment as well even if he takes us up.

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Re: New Manager 2022 Feb
« Reply #253 on: February 02, 2022, 05:50:10 PM »
Rob Dorsett tweeted

Understand it may be a short-term deal being discussed between #wba and Steve Bruce, until the end of the season.
Two and a half years it is then.  ;D

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Re: New Manager 2022 Feb
« Reply #254 on: February 02, 2022, 05:51:48 PM »
Rob Dorsett tweeted

Understand it may be a short-term deal being discussed between #wba and Steve Bruce, until the end of the season.
This is a nightmare. Hope Rob Dorsett has got it wrong.
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Re: New Manager 2022 Feb
« Reply #255 on: February 02, 2022, 05:52:38 PM »
Rob Dorsett tweeted

Understand it may be a short-term deal being discussed between #wba and Steve Bruce, until the end of the season.

If its this. I'd be very happy.

Settle the ship and get it straight for a summer appointment.

If he gets us promoted from here, he deserves another 2 years easily.
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Re: New Manager 2022 Feb
« Reply #256 on: February 02, 2022, 05:55:11 PM »
Rob Dorsett - now saying it be Steve Bruce on a deal until the end of the season.
I can live with that personally. No the most inspired but he’ll come in and know the league straight away.

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Re: New Manager 2022 Feb
« Reply #257 on: February 02, 2022, 05:55:31 PM »
Bruce on a short term until the end of the season makes sense, getting the behind the scenes right in terms of scouting, DOF needs to happen between now & the end of the year for us to go into next season.

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Re: New Manager 2022 Feb
« Reply #258 on: February 02, 2022, 05:56:28 PM »
Is there a better candidate out there (realistically- no/minimum compo) than Brucey?

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Re: New Manager 2022 Feb
« Reply #259 on: February 02, 2022, 05:56:37 PM »
Only two of them have anywhere near as good a squad as we do

Compare these midfielders:
Fulham: Harrison Reed;  Cavaleiro, Tom Cairney; Loftus Cheek, Lemina

QPR: Johansen; Field; Ilias Chair; Albert Adomah

Sheffield Utd: Sander Berge, Oliver Norwood, Gibbs_White; Hourihane

Stoke City: Allen, Nick Powell;  Shaqiri

Bournemouth: Danjuma; Phillip Billing (Danish u21); Jefferson Lerma; David Brooks

Blackburn: Holtby (ex-Spurs); Bradley Dack; Harvey Elliot (load from Liverpool - youngest starter)

WBA: Livermore; Mowatt; Molumby (TGH never started)

Tired of reading this myth.
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Re: New Manager 2022 Feb
« Reply #260 on: February 02, 2022, 06:04:14 PM »
Bruce on a short term until the end of the season makes sense, getting the behind the scenes right in terms of scouting, DOF needs to happen between now & the end of the year for us to go into next season.
That's it, isn't it? Short term, no interest in long term future of the club. Do you think Bruce is interested in WBA scouting? Anotehr journeyman off the carousel ready for his next paypacket. Then rinse and repeat.   
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Re: New Manager 2022 Feb
« Reply #261 on: February 02, 2022, 06:06:03 PM »
Sensible is never really inspiring...short term makes sense...if he gets us up then he deserves the job i suppose. If he doesn't then we can turn to something else.
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Re: New Manager 2022 Feb
« Reply #262 on: February 02, 2022, 06:08:24 PM »
That's it, isn't it? Short term, no interest in long term future of the club. Do you think Bruce is interested in WBA scouting? Anotehr journeyman off the carousel ready for his next paypacket. Then rinse and repeat.   

Errmmmm. Val was completely invested in the long term future of the club.  Four years long term. Bruce's job will be to coach the team for a few months not build infrastructure.   

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Re: New Manager 2022 Feb
« Reply #263 on: February 02, 2022, 06:08:43 PM »
Bruce of course skipper at Hull was Jake Livermore  ;D

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Re: New Manager 2022 Feb
« Reply #264 on: February 02, 2022, 06:11:35 PM »
That's it, isn't it? Short term, no interest in long term future of the club. Do you think Bruce is interested in WBA scouting? Anotehr journeyman off the carousel ready for his next paypacket. Then rinse and  repeat.   

So what’s your preferred choice then? Contrary to Baggies earlier post I don’t think it is a null and void question, we are in a mess and need some stability. Our season had all but gone so it’s pointless diving into a long term plan at the moment. Bruce is experienced and does not have a bad record, hardly inspiring but he is free and many think he can do a job.
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Re: New Manager 2022 Feb
« Reply #265 on: February 02, 2022, 06:13:06 PM »
Loads of posters on here insisted we change the manager yet again mid-season and lots of those same posters are now already having kittens at the list of available options.

I think if we had a coach with the DNA of Sir Alf Ramsey, Sir Alex Ferguson and Pep Guardiola people would still moan ;D

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Re: New Manager 2022 Feb
« Reply #266 on: February 02, 2022, 06:13:10 PM »
Is there a better candidate out there (realistically- no/minimum compo) than Brucey?

Nope.  But he's not young and upcoming (Val), sexy and foreign (Slav), or has a history at the club (Big Dave).

All he has is a wealth of experience, including multiple promotions and management of basket case clubs.

So booooo.  Brucey out.

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Re: New Manager 2022 Feb
« Reply #267 on: February 02, 2022, 06:17:01 PM »
Errmmmm. Val was completely invested in the long term future of the club.  Four years long term. Bruce's job will be to coach the team for a few months not build infrastructure.
It went pear-shaped for Val because of results, but there was nothing wrong in going for a long-term appointment. He was interested in the Academy and the club's infrastructure. Bruce won't build any sort of loyalties here. He's been around the block too many times. Its just another payday for him.
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Re: New Manager 2022 Feb
« Reply #268 on: February 02, 2022, 06:18:38 PM »
Right now Bruce is the equivalent of a reset button.  The board tried something new and 'long term' and got their fingers burned.  Hopefully he will be able to re-group and re-focus the players.  The problem is we are forever pressing the reset button.  Hopefully they are working on plans for summer (depending how the season ends) with more longevity.

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Re: New Manager 2022 Feb
« Reply #269 on: February 02, 2022, 06:22:33 PM »
If Steve Bruce is the answer then we are asking the wrong question - simple as that - his negative style of football was shocking - do we never learn !

Another journeyman manager looking for a big pay day

I’d be looking at Karl Robinson - done well everywhere he’s been, plays good football, ambitious and with something to prove

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Re: New Manager 2022 Feb
« Reply #270 on: February 02, 2022, 06:22:43 PM »
I think we will be steady all over the pitch without being too exciting.

If it is a deal to the end of the season it makes sense, if he gets us up then i assume he will get offered the job regardless.

If he doesnt then they can assess whether he is the right man for the championship next season or whether we have other targets when contracts are up (ie - Mowbray)

It doesnt really matter but i have met Bruce a few times and he seemed a good decent bloke and i can see why he is well liked in the media, the abuse he got at villa and newcastle went too far and i hope we as fans can make him feel wanted if nothing else.

That’s ok then he is well liked by the media.
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Re: New Manager 2022 Feb
« Reply #271 on: February 02, 2022, 06:23:25 PM »
So what’s your preferred choice then? Contrary to Baggies earlier post I don’t think it is a null and void question, we are in a mess and need some stability. Our season had all but gone so it’s pointless diving into a long term plan at the moment. Bruce is experienced and does not have a bad record, hardly inspiring but he is free and many think he can do a job.
You used the words yourself, 'hardly inspiring'.  I don't accept the season has to be 'gone'. Or do we only start re-building between seasons?
I gave my choices as Lucien Favre, Per Mertesacker or Billic, all of whom are free and in my view would play good football and would be inspiring.
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Re: New Manager 2022 Feb
« Reply #272 on: February 02, 2022, 06:24:37 PM »
It went pear-shaped for Val because of results, but there was nothing wrong in going for a long-term appointment. He was interested in the Academy and the club's infrastructure. Bruce won't build any sort of loyalties here. He's been around the block too many times. Its just another payday for him.
Is that a problem or would you prefer another left-field appointment at this moment in time? 

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Re: New Manager 2022 Feb
« Reply #273 on: February 02, 2022, 06:24:56 PM »
Is there a better candidate out there (realistically- no/minimum compo) than Brucey?

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Re: New Manager 2022 Feb
« Reply #274 on: February 02, 2022, 06:25:01 PM »
Bruce until the end of the season makes sense, even if it isn’t exactly inspiring. It gives us time to consider longer term options and appoint at a time when there are likely to be more attractive candidates around than there are now.