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Re: After Match Debate
« Reply #450 on: February 22, 2022, 10:23:06 PM »
It’s very much a possibility when you consider we’ve just extended most the contracts in this squad.

Nobody is going to buy them and we’re not getting rid. We’re lumbered with them

They are liabilities on the balance sheet. We can’t make them play any better, but we are committed to paying them. So a poor player with a one million pound a year contract for two years truly is a two million pound liability. They are not assets.

And no-one would even take them off our hands for those salaries, let alone pay fees for them. We would have to sweeten the deal by paying part of their wages off, either on a release from contract or to subsidise a loan.

What a mess.

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Re: After Match Debate
« Reply #451 on: February 22, 2022, 10:24:10 PM »
No point posting as swearing not allowed.

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Re: After Match Debate
« Reply #452 on: February 22, 2022, 10:25:07 PM »
No point posting as swearing not allowed.

Short. Succinct. And to the point.

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Re: After Match Debate
« Reply #453 on: February 22, 2022, 10:43:37 PM »
Sheffield United's owner.

Wilder showed tonight and since he joined Boro why he was the right man for us in the summer . Val was a joke appointment and Bruce is a sticking plaster on a broken leg

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Re: After Match Debate
« Reply #454 on: February 22, 2022, 10:47:50 PM »
Is it worth doing a man of the match poll?!  :'(
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Re: After Match Debate
« Reply #455 on: February 22, 2022, 10:49:08 PM »
Feel sorry for those that went.

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« Reply #456 on: February 22, 2022, 10:51:03 PM »
If we use a sports psychologist they need replacing.  If not then for god's sake get one in. And a decent one not a Dr Quack.

Anyone can see there is zero confidence in what they do.  Don't know the reason why but I think a lot is in their heads and their poor decision making.

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Re: After Match Debate
« Reply #457 on: February 22, 2022, 11:10:46 PM »
If we use a sports psychologist they need replacing.  If not then for god's sake get one in. And a decent one not a Dr Quack.

Anyone can see there is zero confidence in what they do.  Don't know the reason why but I think a lot is in their heads and their poor decision making.

True. But some of it is also in their feet and their lack of talent.

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« Reply #458 on: February 22, 2022, 11:40:33 PM »
I guess it shows how lucky our players are to be stealing a living in the Championship .The majority wouldn’t shine in the part time leagues . If we brought in an entire side from league 2 to replace them , then I can’t think that they could do any worse.

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« Reply #459 on: February 22, 2022, 11:59:28 PM »
True. But some of it is also in their feet and their lack of talent.

Grady has proven he can do it - but not consistently since his injury last season. Every manager says Phillips is a confidence player and we have all seen him when his head drops.

Any professional sportsman if asked if it would add 5% to their performance would be willing to do it - in fact they would do it without even needing to be asked.

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Re: After Match Debate
« Reply #460 on: February 23, 2022, 12:17:15 AM »
Is it worth doing a man of the match poll?!  :'(

I thought the Referee did very well for us.

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Re: After Match Debate
« Reply #461 on: February 23, 2022, 12:27:03 AM »
Wilder showed tonight and since he joined Boro why he was the right man for us in the summer . Val was a joke appointment and Bruce is a sticking plaster on a broken leg

Wilder and Ismael both favour the same formation and system. The players couldn't/wouldn't play that way under Ismael why would it have been any different under Wilder?

Anyway back to tonight: Reach, Grant and Townsend all very poor, but the worst of the lot was Mowatt although he did deliver a masterclass in ball watching and not tackling. Andy Carroll tries hard but has no support.

Only us, Hull & Peterborough without a win in last 5 and Hull have managed 2 draws.
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Re: After Match Debate
« Reply #462 on: February 23, 2022, 12:46:56 AM »
Val did have a tactical plan. Problem was it was failing.

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« Reply #463 on: February 23, 2022, 07:41:56 AM »
quite possibly the worst bunch of committed footballers i have ever seen in the same team. hang your heads footballers, has for bruce your starting to take some of the blame too now. you look worse than Val
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Re: After Match Debate
« Reply #464 on: February 23, 2022, 08:35:50 AM »
Thought Diagana looked a bit more like his old self but very disappointed with Grant. People on here have said he does nothing and I thought that was harsh, but after the last two games beginning to think they're right. When an attack breaks down it's so frustrating to see him just run back alongside the opposition - for Christ's sake, put in a tackle!

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Re: After Match Debate
« Reply #465 on: February 23, 2022, 08:39:46 AM »
Is it worth doing a man of the match poll?!  :'(

Yeah. The ref gets it. He was utterly awful but for once it was mostly in our favour ........

...... and still we lost!  :(

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« Reply #466 on: February 23, 2022, 08:41:09 AM »
Yeah. The ref gets it. He was utterly awful but for once it was mostly in our favour ........

...... and still we lost!  :(

Probably the first time in my life I have watched a game and thought ‘he has given us everything’

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Re: After Match Debate
« Reply #467 on: February 23, 2022, 09:05:23 AM »
Just seen this tweet and didn’t know whether to laugh or cry:

Duncan Watmore completed more Key passes than West Brom's Front Four combined.

He was on for 35 minutes.
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Re: After Match Debate
« Reply #468 on: February 23, 2022, 09:44:03 AM »
Left it a day before commenting.  I feel thoroughly depressed this morning.  The only small positive I can take is Dara's return, he looked good.  Outside of that we are weak in just about every area, apart from the keeper (who will leave us at the end of the season).  There is (again), no new manager bounce and if we cannot stop the rot we will be in league one the season after next.  I do think our performances are now that bad.

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Re: After Match Debate
« Reply #469 on: February 23, 2022, 09:54:55 AM »
Just seen this tweet and didn’t know whether to laugh or cry:

Duncan Watmore completed more Key passes than West Brom's Front Four combined.

He was on for 35 minutes.


I don't see anything at all to laugh at mate so may I suggest you take up your other option?

You have to be careful what you believe on social media so I'm not certain I'd take that tweet unquestionably.

Not sure what out front four was anyway. I'm presuming the reference is to Carroll, Grant, Diangana and Reach? For the most part it looked like 451 to me.

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Re: After Match Debate
« Reply #470 on: February 23, 2022, 09:57:31 AM »
Absolutely awful Players are a disgrace quickly going backwards Blues could probably overtake us. Why do Sky or BBC WM bother with us Blues would have been better. I fear we will become a league 1 club soon. My dad started following in 92/93 when we were there and in the dark days, we are there soon, players are useless board are useless, wasted evenings aren't fun anymore. Thank god I don't watch us on Sky, radio is already painful.
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Re: After Match Debate
« Reply #471 on: February 23, 2022, 11:24:59 AM »
Wilder and Ismael both favour the same formation and system. The players couldn't/wouldn't play that way under Ismael why would it have been any different under Wilder?

Anyway back to tonight: Reach, Grant and Townsend all very poor, but the worst of the lot was Mowatt although he did deliver a masterclass in ball watching and not tackling. Andy Carroll tries hard but has no support.

Only us, Hull & Peterborough without a win in last 5 and Hull have managed 2 draws.

Wilder and Val favour a similar formation,  but while he generally plays three at the back he often uses three in midfield too. The system isn't identical either. Wilder's sides use the ball better and he's more flexible at Championship level at least as exampled last night.

I don't know for certain but I very much doubt he'd have ok'd contract extensions for Phillips and Furlong for starters. As for Bartley and Ajayi neither are good enough on the ball to play in a Wilder back three. I doubt either would have started the season for us. They're not consistently good enough defensively either.

Speaking of which it would have been interesting to see whether Mowatt did enough for him as a central midfielder in comparison to what he had at Sheffield. At the same time I'd have been intrigued to learn his thoughts of and plans for Robinson, Grant and Diangana.

I suspect the former would have been out the door before a ball was kicked in anger and one of the other two may have been loaned out with a view to rebuilding their confidence and a January return. Does he put all his eggs in one basket for the late arrival of Dike and start the season with Hugill up front?

And would Jake have got enough starts to trigger his contract extension given his age and use of the ball? All conjecture really. And redundant. Mr. Lai chose to take the advice (allegedly) of a chairman of a club which looked to be in direct competition with us at the start of the season.
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Re: After Match Debate
« Reply #472 on: February 23, 2022, 12:18:21 PM »
I thought the Referee did very well for us.

Paid back about a quarter of what he owed us from the Fulham game

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Re: After Match Debate
« Reply #473 on: February 23, 2022, 12:40:16 PM »
I don't see anything at all to laugh at mate so may I suggest you take up your other option?

You have to be careful what you believe on social media so I'm not certain I'd take that tweet unquestionably.

Not sure what out front four was anyway. I'm presuming the reference is to Carroll, Grant, Diangana and Reach? For the most part it looked like 451 to me.

I've got enough to cry about at the moment so I may even opt for a laugh.  ;D

It wasn't unnoticeable - and was recognised in the in game chat - that Whatmore had a lot of qualities that we could break a leg for at the moment. His cameo really did highlight out dismal our forward options were.

Heart and desire being the main quality at the moment.
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Re: After Match Debate
« Reply #474 on: February 23, 2022, 04:18:37 PM »
Is it worth doing a man of the match poll?!  :'(

The only West Brom player who consistently  did any good was Andy Carroll IMO
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