[Droitwich Baggie]

Ian wright on BT nails it,
Also says if he was Saido he would want to leave as well 

http://www.newsnow.co.uk/A/795526003?-11200:789:0

Saido might as well go and sit in the stands, the amount of service he is getting.
Our midfield are just "plodders".
Haven't our midfield been told where the oppositions' goal is, and to pass or take the ball in that direction?
Too much sidewards passing and even then they didn't look or get told "man on". Don't the team act as a team?

[Droitwich Baggie]

Will we have a new manager by the time we play Sunderland?

I can live in hope...and I was a Pulis supporter.

[Hunnington Baggie]

Saido might as well go and sit in the stands, the amount of service he is getting.
Our midfield are just "plodders".
Haven't our midfield been told where the oppositions' goal is, and to pass or take the ball in that direction?
Too much sidewards passing and even then they didn't look or get told "man on". Don't the team act as a team?

goodness no! That would ruin all of Pulis' lovely bus parking.

[labaggies]

Pulis's defence, was that we outplayed Villa, well big deal because Villa are as cr*p as us.
Palace are a decent team, the Chairman has invested in a decent manager, and has opened his chequebook and made investments in the team.
Peace panicked and bought in Pulis, but still wouldn't invest heavily enough in the team.
We are woeful, and we have no depth....
The players bought in during the close season are not up to scratch.
Blame Peace, but for goodness sake get rid of Pulis.

[botters]

Well cheers up we could be Newcastle fans. McClaren on his bike after this match.

[easyrider]

feel sorry for rondon,puts himself about and since hes been here hes hardly been set up with half a chance let alone a decent scoring opportunity.got to get a decent central attacking midfielder in in january.he makes very good movement up front but our midfielders cant see the passes.

[Dexy]

So glad there's no one saying give pulls time. He's had time and he hseveralen found ultimately wanting.

I'll say it , that was awful but Villa and most of Everton was much better.
Not for one minute am I saying I'm enjoying this at all but we are going to get anywhere sacking Pulis when we haven't even had ten games with several new players who themselves haven't settled yet.
Potentially made some bad signings ? , maybe...struggling to find a balance? Yes
Time to get rid ? , only if we want a car crash club.
It's rubbish overall at the minute but not enough to scrap everything just yet.
I keep seeing sorry for Rondon , he doesn't get the service granted but his control and passing was rubbish today.

[Scooby Doo]

Today really showed our midfield up for having a complete and lack of vision. Our entire performance was stagnant.

You have to give credit to Palace mind, they're a strong side and can understand why their only defeats have been against CL opposition by just 1 goal.

[Hunnington Baggie]

Pulis's defence, was that we outplayed Villa, well big deal because Villa are as cr*p as us.
Palace are a decent team, the Chairman has invested in a decent manager, and has opened his chequebook and made investments in the team.
Peace panicked and bought in Pulis, but still wouldn't invest heavily enough in the team.
We are woeful, and we have no depth....
The players bought in during the close season are not up to scratch.
Blame Peace, but for goodness sake get rid of Pulis.

That is the biggest stretch to blame Peace I think I've seen during his reign. You also hold up the Palace Chirman up as doing the right thing.. despite doing exactly the same thing a year before in panicking, ejecting Holloway, getting Pulis, then not supporting him to the point that he walked, forcing him to to get Warnock, then panicking AGAIN and striking lucky with Pardew as he fell out with Newcastle.

[Nathan]

That is the biggest stretch to blame Peace I think I've seen during his reign. You also hold up the Palace Chirman up as doing the right thing.. despite doing exactly the same thing a year before in panicking, ejecting Holloway, getting Pulis, then not supporting him to the point that he walked, forcing him to to get Warnock, then panicking AGAIN and striking lucky with Pardew as he fell out with Newcastle.

You could see it as panicking but you could also look at it and say the Palace chairman acted decisively when he could see things not working out. He got there in the end by the looks of it hasn't he. He could have not panicked and be now playing in the Championship.

[Hunnington Baggie]

You could see it as panicking but you could also look at it and say the Palace chairman acted decisively when he could see things not working out. He got there in the end by the looks of it hasn't he. He could have not panicked and be now playing in the Championship.

and you can say the same about Peace, he acted decisively and replaced Irvine and was correct in doing so, had he not we'd be in the Championship. It was a stretch to blame Peace for Pulis' blushes and I simply applied his own logic to the guy he said is in the right, despite doing EXACTLY THE SAME THING.

[Nathan]

and you can say the same about Peace, he acted decisively and replaced Irvine and was correct in doing so, had he not we'd be in the Championship. It was a stretch to blame Peace for Pulis' blushes and I simply applied his own logic to the guy he said is in the right, despite doing EXACTLY THE SAME THING.

Which brings us back to the point made on other threads on here this afternoon, is the time right for Peace to panic again? The tide has turned against Pulis now I think to such an extreme that his popularity is on a par with Irvine and results are in danger of becoming equally as bad, if in fact they haven't already stooped to and dropped below that level.

[Astle1968]

Which brings us back to the point made on other threads on here this afternoon, is the time right for Peace to panic again? The tide has turned against Pulis now I think to such an extreme that his popularity is on a par with Irvine and results are in danger of becoming equally as bad, if in fact they haven't already stooped to and dropped below that level.

Is his popularity that bad? Obviously the more 'anti' Pulis members are out in force this evening but it was only 2 weeks ago that most on the Pulis thread were crowing that they told us so and this is what happens if you give him time.

Ultimately 75% of people on that thread say they support him so surely they cant be that fickle and now say they want him gone 14 days later? It's not like today's performance was un predictable or unprecedented.

I think rather than the tide turning with the fans it's more likely those who support him are keeping their heads down tonight and will be seen again next time we put in an acceptable performance against a struggling side.

Saying that I'd wager 90% of those 180 odd Pulis fans absolutely slated him and the way his Stoke side played little over 2 years ago so perhaps they are fickle enough to want him out now.

[Mxwba]

went to the game, absolutely dire.  Think 2-0 flattered us to be honest. Actually thought at half time we might actually sneak something here, but second half was awful. Actually got a neck ache from constantly looking at our half the whole entire half. Was very embarrassing.

Also was very nearly arrested for shouting 'baagggiiiiesss' before the game at the train station as fellow commuter thought I was shouting something 'racist'. rubbish afternoon 

[caravanc58]

Idon not give a ff what anybody else who is not a WBA supporter thinks or says so whetehr others are laughing at us or not is just B******s  BUT THIS WAS RUBBISH. We have players who can play and can pass - i have seen them do it - We have a reasonable bunch of players who must be as sick of playing this pooh as we are of watching it. Every one of the last 4 managers has tried to fit players into a system that requires at least 3 or 4 playing in unfamiliar positions  - why is it not deemed possible to pick the best players we have in their best position and design a playing system that makes the best we can out of what we have. Then if they are not good enough get rid and replace with somebody else.  THEY JUST HAVE TO DO A JOB THAT THEY AE BEST SUITED FOR it's called round pegs in round holes.
We have one of the most talented young english strikers and either play him without support or out wide and expected to cover for his full back. We have a good central striker in Rondon who spends all the game getting battered by two hulking CB's or chasing no hope long balls to no one, as well as getting back to clear from his own area.
 We have two wide players who can take defenders on and get into the opponents area, and we have a couple of midfield players who can pick a pass occasionally as JM to SB for his goal against Everton. The issue is that none of them are ever allowed to play their natural game because of the defensive scared of conceding mindset. OK being able to defend is a key requirement but surely not at the expense of stifling any entertaining attacking possibilities. Sometimes taking the game to the opposition is indeed the best way to prevent them scoring. What on earth has happened to the make them scared of us attitude we used to have?

please apply for the job when its next vacant, you speak more sense than that twonk pulis shows in his teams.

[Nathan]

went to the game, absolutely dire.  Think 2-0 flattered us to be honest. Actually thought at half time we might actually sneak something here, but second half was awful. Actually got a neck ache from constantly looking at our half the whole entire half. Was very embarrassing.

Also was very nearly arrested for shouting 'baagggiiiiesss' before the game at the train station as fellow commuter thought I was shouting something 'racist'. rubbish afternoon 

Maybe you should have shouted something racist and got yourself nicked. An afternoon staring at a brick wall in the cells with a couple of cups of coffee would have been just as exciting as watching that and probably cheaper even if you were charged and fined!

[Adder]

A nothing performance. No cohesion to the side ....Yacob does what he does well, Fletcher pretty anonymous today. We really need that quality box to box player.

[Droitwich Baggie]

I am yet to be convinced about how good Fletcher is.
To me he is slow and his distribution leaves a lot to be desired.
Perhaps that is why he is in Pulis's team...He slows everything down to walking pace.

[Dexy]

Worst thing for me is Punchoen , Gayle and even Bolasie didn't really do that much damage .
Zaha was the main man even though a lot of the time his end product is missing , he's the sort of wide man we really miss and a key to setting out a deeper side like ours.....Phillips or Sako seem like big misses now.
While Pulis takes the blame several of our players should take a good look at themselves tonight , talk about basics....good example Morrison  , simple pass to lay it for McClean to shoot on 45 mins....totally over hit from 4 metres away !

[Nathan]

Worst thing for me is Punchoen , Gayle and even Bolasie didn't really do that much damage .
Zaha was the main man even though a lot of the time his end product is missing , he's the sort of wide man we really miss and a key to setting out a deeper side like ours.....Phillips or Sako seem like big misses now.
While Pulis takes the blame several of our players should take a good look at themselves tonight , talk about basics....good example Morrison  , simple pass to lay it for McClean to shoot on 45 mins....totally over hit from 4 metres away !

I agree with that, it makes you wonder what they do on the training ground all day.......On second thoughts, I think we all know the answer to that one. Defend, defend and even more defending. With such a focus on negative tactics and stifling games it's no wonder the basics such as passing a football are being totally ignored. I wonder how often a Pulis training session involves players hitting 5 metre passes to each other. My guess is never.

[OldburyWBA]

Thought we were awful. Pulis deserves criticism for moving Dawson from right back again to centre half. Don't know why he took Saido off, personally I would have took McClean or Rondon off.

Thought we should have had a penalty after Hangelands assault on Rondon, something Gary Neville bangs on about regularly, outside the area its a freekick every time.

Poor goal to concede at the back post again so back to basics for the back four, their penalty not seen back but have been told it was a ddive but we got what we deserved - nothing.

Bolasie, Zaha and Puncheon three players I would love to have at our club.

Players need to learn a word called Pride as too many are lacking in it wearing that shirt, thats not down to Pulis, thats a personal thing. I can forgive a poor performance but not a lack of effort and thats what I thought from a few today.

Only bonus was took less time to get home than last season 

[Dexy]

I agree with that, it makes you wonder what they do on the training ground all day.......On second thoughts, I think we all know the answer to that one. Defend, defend and even more defending. With such a focus on negative tactics and stifling games it's no wonder the basics such as passing a football are being totally ignored. I wonder how often a Pulis training session involves players hitting 5 metre passes to each other. My guess is never.

I know feelings are running high but part of Pulis's game plan is the counter attack / break away goal.....you don't really think they don't work on that surely mate ? Either it's just not sinking in or the players in the final third just aren't good enough.

[Avonbaggie]

A bad workman always blames his tools.

This. I like Pulis and think he can do things to keep teams up but sometimes he makes decisions which makes that job a whole lot harder. He has cost us the last two games through his own decisions.

[Hong Kong Phooey]

Worst thing for me is Punchoen , Gayle and even Bolasie didn't really do that much damage .
Zaha was the main man even though a lot of the time his end product is missing , he's the sort of wide man we really miss and a key to setting out a deeper side like ours.....Phillips or Sako seem like big misses now.
While Pulis takes the blame several of our players should take a good look at themselves tonight , talk about basics....good example Morrison  , simple pass to lay it for McClean to shoot on 45 mins....totally over hit from 4 metres away !

Zaha was up against Brunt and was allowed to molest him all afternoon.
Some of our interplay at the back was inviting trouble...and the goals and the defeat were inevitable from the first whistle.
Sunderland is massive!

[OldburyWBA]

Zaha was up against Brunt and was allowed to molest him all afternoon.
Some of our interplay at the back was inviting trouble...and the goals and the defeat were inevitable from the first whistle.
Sunderland is massive!

Better fullbacks than Brunt will get torn a new one by Zaha over the course of the season, he was up for it today but Brunt didn't back down. Nice to see Brunt didn't take any messing from him when he tried to intimidate him at times.