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« Reply #3175 on: September 01, 2015, 06:22:38 PM »
 totally agree Pulis should have kept quiet we were never going to sign any good players rivals have all strengthened squads we have a long hard season of struggling again that's the Albion way

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« Reply #3176 on: September 01, 2015, 06:24:32 PM »
Big task for TP now.
From game against stoke we know that the team lack pace and creativity, but it didn't get sorted on deadline day.
He have to solve the the problem with the same group of players until January.
Maybe I'm too pessimistic but I really think it would be a very difficult season.

Don't under estimate what Evans will bring, we will have pace at centre back for the first time for years, that will allow the defence to play a much higher line, supporting the midfield.
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« Reply #3177 on: September 01, 2015, 06:24:49 PM »
The whole club is completely controlled by Peace, if you want to blame anyone, then he's the man.
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« Reply #3178 on: September 01, 2015, 08:22:52 PM »
Pulis has spent he most money so far this summer that any manager has had at our club. TP will know this and I cant see there being a problem between him and Peace.

As for Berahino Peace is coming out of it looking quite good and getting alot of praise as are his Southampton and Everton counterparts regarding not being bullied into selling to a 'bigger' club.

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« Reply #3179 on: September 01, 2015, 08:36:04 PM »
The whole club is completely controlled by Peace, if you want to blame anyone, then he's the man.
peace gave pulis a healthy budget. So for once I cannot blame him. Pulis decided he wanted no pace,flair or creativity. I will continue to not pay to watch such drab uninspiring football

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« Reply #3180 on: September 01, 2015, 08:36:49 PM »
The whole club is completely controlled by Peace, if you want to blame anyone, then he's the man.

Nope blokes a legend in my eyes.

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« Reply #3181 on: September 01, 2015, 09:13:40 PM »
Well..
Either TP has had all the control that's been reported, which leaves us a very unbalanced squad in terms of who he will actually pick
Or
He hasn't in which case we are in even more of a bad position.

I think there are certain things you can (at times) put up with , but we are now looking like a club that has the potential to implode, Saido will have some freinds on the staff that will now be disgruntled?, sess is wasted (see also poco/Gamboa) ,brunt injured,McLean unpopular, Olson past it, Macauley slowing drastically, Chester straight in straight out, I may be wrong and hope I am , but we don't look in good shape?, and we don't have alternatives.
If youre going to get told off, get told off for doing something not for doing nothing..

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« Reply #3182 on: September 01, 2015, 09:41:32 PM »
Well..
Either TP has had all the control that's been reported, which leaves us a very unbalanced squad in terms of who he will actually pick
Or
He hasn't in which case we are in even more of a bad position.

I think there are certain things you can (at times) put up with , but we are now looking like a club that has the potential to implode, Saido will have some freinds on the staff that will now be disgruntled?, sess is wasted (see also poco/Gamboa) ,brunt injured,McLean unpopular, Olson past it, Macauley slowing drastically, Chester straight in straight out, I may be wrong and hope I am , but we don't look in good shape?, and we don't have alternatives.

Lock all the sharp objects away! ;D

Will be fine, even without Berahino.
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« Reply #3183 on: September 01, 2015, 09:46:53 PM »
IMO...TP is in charge of the team but gets input to the office side.
          JP runs the business side of things.
This happens in the best of businesses.
You have a manager but over them you have a director.
A good director will listen, and to some degree will let the manager "manage" and make on the spot  "executive" decisions, but the final word is down to them.
     

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« Reply #3184 on: September 02, 2015, 01:37:52 AM »
Pulis wanted other players that much is obvious as he said it. Why we didn't get them only the people on the inside know the reasons.

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« Reply #3185 on: September 02, 2015, 02:05:34 AM »
Pulis wanted other players that much is obvious as he said it. Why we didn't get them only the people on the inside know the reasons.

No, it's easy to see why we didn't get more players.

a. We failed to move on the deadwood, for obvious reasons (there simply isn't a market for declining players on massive wages)
b. we didn't sell Saido.
c. Pulis, self-imposedly, operates in a very limited market.

That's it.

Again it's a rather mediocre window, but at least we didn't make too many obvious shocking signings like last summer (Davidson etc etc) and Rondon looks useful. 
« Last Edit: September 02, 2015, 02:10:29 AM by GrGr »

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« Reply #3186 on: September 02, 2015, 06:23:43 AM »
I feel Pulis is now under pressure. I can't help but ask was it really necessary to break apart a back 4/5 who kept one of the highest numbers of clean sheets last season. I think we would have been ok this season. We needed more quality firepower, which I expected to see more of with a couple of very good full backs.
We've let arguably our best defender go to a relegation rival and will have trouble with our top scorer (and prized asset)
Now we need to see Pulis mould this (his) team and see how we go.

Interesting times ahead.

Oh and does anyone else think he has used the Transfer Window during the season excuse an awful lot? If we had an easier start or had 9 points on the board and done our main business earlier (like most others) he would not have said much about it?

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« Reply #3187 on: September 02, 2015, 06:27:07 AM »
TP has managed to spend a net £30m with only marginally improving the squad IMHO.
Take away the spoiled brat and we are in worst shape. A difficult and bumpy road ahead for TP  and all of us. Think there is more trouble on the horizon.

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« Reply #3188 on: September 02, 2015, 06:42:46 AM »
I bet Pulis is pig sick this morning.
He shot off away from the training ground yesterday at 3.15 after he realised that Berahino wasn't going anywhere.
I think that's when his master plan failed.
He was hoping to sell the little git to fund the ('FANS WILL BE SURPRISED') players that he's been lauding for a few weeks.
Oh well Tone, there's always January!
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« Reply #3189 on: September 02, 2015, 07:27:39 AM »
He was hoping to sell the little git to fund the ('FANS WILL BE SURPRISED') players that he's been lauding for a few weeks.
Oh well Tone, there's always January!

I do love that comment, it so reminds me of his "Rock the City signings" that were promised every year but never happened.

He will come out today with his well worn saying, "Things just didn't fall for us"


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« Reply #3190 on: September 02, 2015, 07:38:18 AM »
it seems as if any further incoming players was based on selling berahino but I think peace and pulis had different views.
did peace want to keep saido or just wanted a certain fee.
did pulis want to keep saido or sell to rebuild his own team.
it all seems a bid daft if the plan by peace and pulis was to sell saido for a huge fee to rebuild the team so late in the window, that is if the club was willing to sell.

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« Reply #3191 on: September 02, 2015, 07:49:57 AM »
it seems as if any further incoming players was based on selling berahino but I think peace and pulis had different views.
did peace want to keep saido or just wanted a certain fee.
did pulis want to keep saido or sell to rebuild his own team.
it all seems a bid daft if the plan by peace and pulis was to sell saido for a huge fee to rebuild the team so late in the window, that is if the club was willing to sell.

It's very simple.

Berahino was for sale for a fair price, but not to be given away for peanuts.

The money to be raised was to be given to Pulis to strengthen the team, which was why he supported it, but there would have been no money because Spurs were only offering £5m upfront, meaning that we would have sold our best player yet would not have been able to strengthen the squad.  Utterly pointless.

Peace made this crystal clear last week when rejecting Spurs' second "offer".  He spelt out to Spurs that the deal was nowhere near enough because of how it was structured,
and that it was getting too late for Albion to accept anyway as we needed to buy replacements.

Levy chose to ignore what Peace said, and simply relied on Berahino trying to force through an unacceptable deal by threatening to go on strike on deadline day.  The rest is history.









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« Reply #3192 on: September 02, 2015, 07:59:00 AM »
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« Reply #3193 on: September 02, 2015, 08:01:05 AM »
With a good break to the next game, there's time for things to calm down. Peace has sensibly lowered the temperature with regard to Berahino, Pulis can't walk away again like he did at Palace, he will make himself unemployable.  Also we are stuck with 3 or 4 players he doesn't really want.

Pulis is the "adult" here, he needs to find a way to clear the air and get the squad we have into shape to get 20+ points on the board by Xmas by managing the prima donnas (Berahino, Sess) and using the older players (Brunt, Morrison, MacAuley) to get some kind of working relationship going for everyone so we don't implode.


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« Reply #3194 on: September 02, 2015, 08:08:05 AM »
It's very simple.

Berahino was for sale for a fair price, but not to be given away for peanuts.

The money to be raised was to be given to Pulis to strengthen the team, which was why he supported it, but there would have been no money because Spurs were only offering £5m upfront, meaning that we would have sold our best player yet would not have been able to strengthen the squad.  Utterly pointless.

Peace made this crystal clear last week when rejecting Spurs' second "offer".  He spelt out to Spurs that the deal was nowhere near enough because of how it was structured,
and that it was getting too late for Albion to accept anyway as we needed to buy replacements.

Levy chose to ignore what Peace said, and simply relied on Berahino trying to force through an unacceptable deal by threatening to go on strike on deadline day.  The rest is history.
do you think if spurs 4th bid that came late in the day was an offer of £25m with a big payment upfront we wouldn't have sold him given the short time to get replacements in.
fail to see the bit about levy relying on berahino going on strike to force a deal having any substance, he hasn't gone on strike yet what he has done is posted a stupid thing on a social media site.
 

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« Reply #3195 on: September 02, 2015, 08:08:46 AM »
With a good break to the next game, there's time for things to calm down. Peace has sensibly lowered the temperature with regard to Berahino, Pulis can't walk away again like he did at Palace, he will make himself unemployable.  Also we are stuck with 3 or 4 players he doesn't really want.

Pulis is the "adult" here, he needs to find a way to clear the air and get the squad we have into shape to get 20+ points on the board by Xmas by managing the prima donnas (Berahino, Sess) and using the older players (Brunt, Morrison, MacAuley) to get some kind of working relationship going for everyone so we don't implode.



Probably the best thing I have read on the subject sir.

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« Reply #3196 on: September 02, 2015, 08:20:59 AM »
I think TP's next team selection at home against Southampton is vital. If he goes for Olsson, McAuley and Gardner to park the bus and rely on hoofing it up to Rondon he'll start to feel a serious backlash from us.

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« Reply #3197 on: September 02, 2015, 08:22:40 AM »
using the older players (Brunt, Morrison, MacAuley) to get some kind of working relationship going for everyone so we don't implode.
Let's hope they make a much better job of it than they did when Pepe Mel was here.

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« Reply #3198 on: September 02, 2015, 09:20:21 AM »
I think TP's next team selection at home against Southampton is vital. If he goes for Olsson, McAuley and Gardner to park the bus and rely on hoofing it up to Rondon he'll start to feel a serious backlash from us.

Why? Southampton are a good attacking team likely to finish in the the top 7, there will be no backlash from me when the manager tries to get the points the best way he feels how. So I think you should rephrase and not write it like everyone agrees with you.
Even Cillit would have banged that one in..

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« Reply #3199 on: September 02, 2015, 09:23:26 AM »
Why? Southampton are a good attacking team likely to finish in the the top 7, there will be no backlash from me when the manager tries to get the points the best way he feels how. So I think you should rephrase and not write it like everyone agrees with you.

The booing vs port vale and the lack of celebration at stoke said it all for me. The fans will turn, watch this space.
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