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« Reply #2950 on: August 27, 2015, 01:09:35 PM »
Or we go down playing Pulisball, what a terrifying prospect.

Either way it gets the clear out and fresh start thats needed and been needed for a while. Only problem is we'd come back up and go through the same process again.
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« Reply #2951 on: August 27, 2015, 01:09:40 PM »
Not at all, I want better football but I also realise it takes time and is not a five minute fix to sort this club out after years of poor signings and poor appointments, something some have not been prepared to give from the minute he walked in the door and are revelling in any chance to stick the boot in.

He might not get it right but he deserves the time to have a go which will take more than one transfer window given there's no-one queuing up to take any of our players with the exception of Saido.

100% agree, TP earned the right to be given time and support to put solid foundations down by turning last season around.
Personally I hope he moves on once the foundations are built as we will likely be looking for "entertainment"  again by then.
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« Reply #2952 on: August 27, 2015, 01:29:26 PM »
I'm still holding on to the hope he'll get wound up by us not signing enough players a leave after the window closes.

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« Reply #2953 on: August 27, 2015, 01:34:15 PM »
I'm still holding on to the hope he'll get wound up by us not signing enough players a leave after the window closes.

And we get who in to replace him?
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« Reply #2954 on: August 27, 2015, 01:40:48 PM »
And we get who in to replace him?


Anyone who plays attractive football to entertain the crowd not bore them to death.

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« Reply #2955 on: August 27, 2015, 01:44:26 PM »
And we get who in to replace him?

That would be down to Jeremy Peace to decide. I'm sure after Pulis we will have rubbish managers, we will also have some pretty good ones hopefully, that doesn't mean we should stick with what we've got for fear of the unknown.

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« Reply #2956 on: August 27, 2015, 01:50:22 PM »
And we get who in to replace him?

Anybody would be an improvement for me, as soon as Pulis goes, I can return to supporting my team.
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« Reply #2957 on: August 27, 2015, 01:53:54 PM »

Anyone who plays attractive football to entertain the crowd not bore them to death.

such as?

That would be down to Jeremy Peace to decide. I'm sure after Pulis we will have rubbish managers, we will also have some pretty good ones hopefully, that doesn't mean we should stick with what we've got for fear of the unknown.

Or get rid before he's been given a chance to complete a full season? I could argue that until the window closes and we then see who we've got in and how Pulis will get us to play.. then that is also an 'unknown'.
 
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« Reply #2958 on: August 27, 2015, 01:55:09 PM »
Anybody would be an improvement for me, as soon as Pulis goes, I can return to supporting my team.

Anybody?? maybe we could ask Alan Irvine to come off gardening leave?

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« Reply #2959 on: August 27, 2015, 02:13:54 PM »
Its the unknown, inexperienced that have got us here in the first place.

Lets get rid of another to bring in the next in the queue to be removed in 6 months time or are you all aching for Big Sam to step in.
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« Reply #2960 on: August 27, 2015, 02:16:06 PM »
I'm still holding on to the hope he'll get wound up by us not signing enough players a leave after the window closes.

This is my only hope as well; although I don’t think he would walk after his Palace flounce somewhat blotted his copybook.  However, in his last two post match interviews he has stressed the need for reinforcements unprompted, possibly a subtle gibe at Peace and co to get moving.   

What he seemingly forgets is that we have already backed him to the tune of £22million and that the reinforcements he so desperately ‘needs’ are likely to be more central defenders (5 just won’t suffice) and a goalkeeper - when we have two fantastic senior goalkeepers and two highly regarded prospects already on the books.  It wouldn’t surprise me if Pulis is planning on replacing England’s number two goalkeeper with Palace’s number three.  We do need some new players, granted, preferably full backs because we don’t even have one (seeing as he refuses to acknowledge the existence of Gamboa and Poco) but no Pulis will carry on stockpiling centre backs, full backs after all are such a new age, avant-garde, namby pampy concept for our Tone.
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« Reply #2961 on: August 27, 2015, 02:16:21 PM »
such as?
Eddie Howe (not that I'm advocating getting rid of Pulis at this point in time)

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« Reply #2962 on: August 27, 2015, 02:17:26 PM »
Its the unknown, inexperienced that have got us here in the first place.

Lets get rid of another to bring in the next in the queue to be removed in 6 months time or are you all aching for Big Sam to step in.

Wouldn't Mcinnes ever fancy the challenge of being our manager ?.

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« Reply #2963 on: August 27, 2015, 02:17:52 PM »
Its the unknown, inexperienced that have got us here in the first place.

Lets get rid of another to bring in the next in the queue to be removed in 6 months time or are you all aching for Big Sam to step in.

Sometimes it can actually work if you make the right appointment and embrace a certain culture and philosophy at a football club - Garry Monk at Swansea for example.

I will never understand why the club made promises about building a culture of attacking, attractive football when Mel was appointed, only to completely backtrack and appoint dinosaurs like Irvine and Pulis. Truly bizarre.
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« Reply #2964 on: August 27, 2015, 02:22:52 PM »
Sometimes it can actually work if you make the right appointment and embrace a certain culture and philosophy at a football club - Garry Monk at Swansea for example.

I will never understand why the club made promises about building a culture of attacking, attractive football when Mel was appointed, only to completely backtrack and appoint dinosaurs like Irvine and Pulis. Truly bizarre.

Do you trust this club to make the correct appointment going on the recent past ?

I'm not a Pulis fan despite my seemingly defence of him but we need some sort of stability, we're already a laughing stock at our ways of changing managers every 6 months or so. This is the result of poor management from the top down for the past few years.
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« Reply #2965 on: August 27, 2015, 02:23:24 PM »
Wouldn't Mcinnes ever fancy the challenge of being our manager ?.

Big jump from the SPL to the Premier league, look at Neil Lennon.
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« Reply #2966 on: August 27, 2015, 02:26:56 PM »
We actually have a couple of footballers who could imbrace a passing philosophy certainly off the top of my head, Macca, brunt, Sessegnon, mozza, Yacob and Berahino but it seemed that when we did have a man to carry this out they didn't want to get on board for whatever reason.


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« Reply #2967 on: August 27, 2015, 02:36:32 PM »
Do you trust this club to make the correct appointment going on the recent past ?

I'm not a Pulis fan despite my seemingly defence of him but we need some sort of stability, we're already a laughing stock at our ways of changing managers every 6 months or so. This is the result of poor management from the top down for the past few years.

That is correct. There has been a string of truly shocking decisions by the club since Ashworth left, not just in appointment of managers. Whomever has been advising JP has shown rotten judgement. If it is the board it too needs a shake up.

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« Reply #2968 on: August 27, 2015, 04:28:22 PM »
Anybody would be an improvement for me, as soon as Pulis goes, I can return to supporting my team.

That's right let's just get anyone. If we play good football and go down supporters will be upset because of expectation. Also is it good football if we struggle?
Mowbray was great in the championship but I would argue the football was poor in the prem.

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« Reply #2969 on: August 27, 2015, 04:30:16 PM »
That's right let's just get anyone. If we play good football and go down supporters will be upset because of expectation. Also is it good football if we struggle?
Mowbray was great in the championship but I would argue the football was poor in the prem.

Bit of a difference when you're shopping in the markets of Ryan Donk etc isn't there?

Give Mowbray the likes of Odemwingie, McAuley, Yacob etc and he'd have kept us up. We'd have been great to watch too
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« Reply #2970 on: August 27, 2015, 04:34:19 PM »
Bit of a difference when you're shopping in the markets of Ryan Donk etc isn't there?

Give Mowbray the likes of Odemwingie, McAuley, Yacob etc and he'd have kept us up. We'd have been great to watch too

Yes id agree with that Liam! would have been great entertainment. TM would have needed a good defensive coach though.

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« Reply #2971 on: August 27, 2015, 04:40:15 PM »
Bit of a difference when you're shopping in the markets of Ryan Donk etc isn't there?

Give Mowbray the likes of Odemwingie, McAuley, Yacob etc and he'd have kept us up. We'd have been great to watch too
I agree. Some people seem to think that we were cast adrift at the foot of the table that season, but we only missed staying up by 4 points.

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« Reply #2972 on: August 27, 2015, 06:17:18 PM »
Bit of a difference when you're shopping in the markets of Ryan Donk etc isn't there?

Give Mowbray the likes of Odemwingie, McAuley, Yacob etc and he'd have kept us up. We'd have been great to watch too

Like at Celtic when he had equal best budget in the country. The argument has to take into account time frame and context. The money every team has now is way more and he spent a lot on Valero at the time (record signing). He also agreed to some shocking signings too (Barnett and Meiete 2.5 each).
Mowbray also inherited a squad that he had to rebuild (with huge talent for the division we were In) that took him time.
I liked Mowbrays style more than Pulis (for the record)

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« Reply #2973 on: August 27, 2015, 06:22:13 PM »
Bit of a difference when you're shopping in the markets of Ryan Donk etc isn't there?

Give Mowbray the likes of Odemwingie, McAuley, Yacob etc and he'd have kept us up. We'd have been great to watch too

Yet he had Mulumbu and Dorrans but refused to play them?

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« Reply #2974 on: August 27, 2015, 06:34:12 PM »
Yet he had Mulumbu and Dorrans but refused to play them?

Mulumbu spent the first few months of his tenure here injured. Weren't they both around 21 years of age? Not the greatest time to throw in a lad who had just joined from Livingstone. I know they both featured towards the end of the season but I wouldn't lambast Mowbray for not using them. One of his biggest mistakes was not getting the most out of Valero.
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