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Re: England Cricket Thread
« Reply #2375 on: December 08, 2021, 12:23:28 AM »
First ball of the series - wicket.

Tone has well and truly been set.
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Re: England Cricket Thread
« Reply #2376 on: December 08, 2021, 12:41:17 AM »
Well this has been a disastrous start.

I honestly think we’ll struggle to make 200 in each innings against such a quality bowling unit.

Cummins and Hazlewood are sublime
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Re: England Cricket Thread
« Reply #2377 on: December 08, 2021, 12:52:45 AM »
Burns is awful.  Never Test Quality wit a technique like that. I'd rather open with Buttler and take the game to them!

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Re: England Cricket Thread
« Reply #2378 on: December 08, 2021, 06:09:35 AM »
Series over in two sessions.

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« Reply #2379 on: December 08, 2021, 07:19:13 AM »
I'll be trying to squeeze as many hours in as possible - going to use my flexi to cater for the winter :).............

Used to love flexi time. Take hours off at fairly short notice and generally cancel time off at fairly short notice too.
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Re: England Cricket Thread
« Reply #2380 on: December 08, 2021, 10:18:34 AM »
Stayed up for the first hour and it went as expected really, our top three batsmen has to be the worst top three we have sent out in test matches for many a decade

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Re: England Cricket Thread
« Reply #2381 on: December 08, 2021, 10:40:02 AM »
Some of those dismissals though are extremely poor.

I have no idea where Rory Burns is walking to

Malan, Buttler and Stokes playing at deliveries that should have been left on length - though they did a good job of squaring Stokes up.

Woakes and Pope with unconvincing pulls. Robinson with his bat closer to Adelaide than his body. Wood looked aboslutely **** scared.

Root & Hameed got done with crackers to be honest.

Praying for rain already and we're only on day one!

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Re: England Cricket Thread
« Reply #2382 on: December 08, 2021, 11:42:00 AM »
Jo's Buttler should open the batting and take the game to them.  You know with Burns and Hameed it'll just be block, block, block and Aussies can have their 3 slips, gully and short leg.

Root is going to be batting at 20-2 all the time.

I don't have anytime for Silverwood, very limited in ideas and doesn't think outside the box.

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Re: England Cricket Thread
« Reply #2383 on: December 08, 2021, 01:00:33 PM »
Nothing changes. We will lose this series 5-0. The same poor tame dismissals still keep on happening game after game after game. We have a very average coach in Silverwood, who lacks tactics or any game management.
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« Reply #2384 on: December 08, 2021, 01:16:41 PM »
Some very good Aussie bowling: BUT

English team selection??

English decision from the toss?

English batsmen - early order quality - no doubts- just poor

English team inspired by captain??

Oh well here we go again same old problems same old issues same results - What did we expect? On a more optimistic note: England can still get something out of this:





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« Reply #2385 on: December 08, 2021, 01:40:45 PM »
Green wicket, overcast day, perfect bowling conditions, win toss and decide to bat, I don't get it
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Re: England Cricket Thread
« Reply #2386 on: December 08, 2021, 02:01:32 PM »
Jo's Buttler should open the batting and take the game to them.  You know with Burns and Hameed it'll just be block, block, block and Aussies can have their 3 slips, gully and short leg.

Root is going to be batting at 20-2 all the time.

I don't have anytime for Silverwood, very limited in ideas and doesn't think outside the box.

Jos Buttler is not and never will be a test match opener.

We have struggles with him in the middle order.

We tried the experiment of a one-day player opening the batting and it failed miserably.
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Re: England Cricket Thread
« Reply #2387 on: December 08, 2021, 02:04:48 PM »
Struggles in middle order, Buttler was top scorer!

The Aussies are expecting us to block and we are, there is no pressure being put back on the bowlers.

Not saying I'm right, but I've watached Cricket for 30+ years and played in the Birmingham League.

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« Reply #2388 on: December 08, 2021, 02:26:12 PM »
Struggles in middle order, Buttler was top scorer!

The Aussies are expecting us to block and we are, there is no pressure being put back on the bowlers.

Not saying I'm right, but I've watached Cricket for 30+ years and played in the Birmingham League.

Whoppy do. You know full well there had been concerns around Buttlers runs in the middle overs.

I quite frankly don't care where you played.

You have been jumping for Liam Livingstone to play despite averaging 11 last season. That's enough for me.
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Re: England Cricket Thread
« Reply #2389 on: December 08, 2021, 02:42:47 PM »
22 hundreds I've got, quite rightly proud of it.

Yes Livingstone should be out there taking guard at the Gabba, taking the fight back to the bowlers.

That's what IT Botham used to do, the Englishman the Aussies were most scared about.....

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« Reply #2390 on: December 08, 2021, 02:53:55 PM »
I’ve played a decent standard of cricket , brother played higher , Dad umpired at every level except for County Championsip including Birmingham League , County seconds etc and I can tell you Buttler is not an opener , Livingstone has done nothing in red ball cricket to warrant a test place . Indeed the worrying thing is it is very difficult to see who else should be included . Echo Liam over Silverwood just doesn’t fill me with any confidence
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« Reply #2391 on: December 08, 2021, 03:02:19 PM »
I’ve played a decent standard of cricket , brother played higher , Dad umpired at every level except for County Championsip including Birmingham League , County seconds etc and I can tell you Buttler is not an opener , Livingstone has done nothing in red ball cricket to warrant a test place . Indeed the worrying thing is it is very difficult to see who else should be included . Echo Liam over Silverwood just doesn’t fill me with any confidence

Straight question is Burns in the top 6 best batsmen in the UK? For me he's not even as good as Jake Libby!

England are like a rabbit in the headlights, sometimes it's just best to take the game to the opposition and play without fear!

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Re: England Cricket Thread
« Reply #2392 on: December 08, 2021, 06:27:10 PM »
Struggles in middle order, Buttler was top scorer!

The Aussies are expecting us to block and we are, there is no pressure being put back on the bowlers.

Not saying I'm right, but I've watached Cricket for 30+ years and played in the Birmingham League.
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Re: England Cricket Thread
« Reply #2393 on: December 08, 2021, 07:02:20 PM »
Straight question is Burns in the top 6 best batsmen in the UK? For me he's not even as good as Jake Libby!

England are like a rabbit in the headlights, sometimes it's just best to take the game to the opposition and play without fear!
Doubtful whether he’s in the best 6 at Surrey ! Even if he was he is nowhere near good enough to be consistent at Test Level however most of those ahead of him have been tried and failed my best guess is Yates at Warwick and perhaps Clarke at Notts will be next in-line but it will be better to blood them in home series . Haven’t noticed who’s on the B tour as openers possibly Crawley ?
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Re: England Cricket Thread
« Reply #2394 on: December 08, 2021, 07:16:16 PM »
What you need in an opening bat at test level is orthodoxy in technique and the ability to graft runs all around the wicket.  Burns doesn't have the first and Sibley had neither.
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« Reply #2395 on: December 08, 2021, 07:51:22 PM »
Problem is neither do any others .
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Re: England Cricket Thread
« Reply #2396 on: December 08, 2021, 07:54:30 PM »
I had it as a 4-1 Aussie win prior to today but might revise that to a white wash now.

Burns might not be a test level batsmen but  he had a decent summer and I'm not convinced anyone will do any better. Sibley, Crawley and Bracey all struggled despite looking ok in 1st class cricket.

The issue is we don't have any decent domestic options in the pipeline. The same thing will likely happen to Yates and Lees if they step up.
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Re: England Cricket Thread
« Reply #2397 on: December 09, 2021, 12:54:59 AM »
First hour down and the Aussies have lost one wicket.

Really could have been two or three.   Stokes had Warner but was called for a no ball.

Frustrating as Australia will fancy 400 at this rate.
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Re: England Cricket Thread
« Reply #2398 on: December 09, 2021, 07:50:26 AM »
Leach is barely County standard never mind Test level.

2nd worse Test figures ever (behind Yasir Shah) for a bowler sending down 10+ overs.

Another great pick following on from Burns.

Silverwood, just go now.

Everyone knows what's coming, 5-0.

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Re: England Cricket Thread
« Reply #2399 on: December 09, 2021, 09:06:50 AM »
If you've not already a few on here would quite enjoy reading this...

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Hitting-Against-Spin-Cricket-Really/dp/147213124X

Might change your mind on a few preconceived ideas you have about test cricket and cricket in general.

As for England... we're toast already.